1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Five six six nine Zeros or Kaye Commas Spirit Health 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: text line what. 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 2: Are you doing? 4 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 3: I'm rubbing my hands? 5 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 2: Are you cold? 6 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 4: No, I'm rubbing my hands like let's go, Let's get it. 7 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're fired up, Let's go. 8 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The text line is crushing you man, asking you what's 9 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: in your Martin ellis real? 10 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: Good apples? How about that? Nick? 11 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: You drive me nuts? I did like this one. Nick. 12 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm on your side because you played the game. 13 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Well really quickly. 14 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 4: Let me put that in context, because did bo Knicks 15 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: outplay Justin Fields? 16 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: Yes? 17 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 4: Is he a better quarterback right now? 18 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 19 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Was Justin Fields supported the way that you would support 20 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 4: a quarterback? 21 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: No? 22 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it wasn't. 23 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: And I'm here for any conversation with anyone who wants 24 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: to sit down, and I'll show you the film and 25 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: I would say, no, that young man was not supported 26 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: by the office of coordinator, let alone the office of 27 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: guys on his team. 28 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: And I said, and buy. 29 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: That this one. 30 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I realized this, this game was just yesterday, and you 31 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about what happened versus the New York 32 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Green team a much more interesting conversation. We'll be talking 33 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: about the matchup with talanoa Hufanga versus Cam Scatum middleweight slugfest. Yeah, 34 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some times that's to break down that 35 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: matchup and the Giants their scripy team. Man, we'll get 36 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: into that, but right now we're gonna head out to 37 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the KWA Common Spirit Health Highline and bring on our 38 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: NFL Network insider Ian Rapaport Power by Chevron. Chevron the 39 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Human Energy Company committed to our local communities and safely 40 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 41 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Ian Good afternoons or how are you? 42 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: What's going on? 43 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: Are you guys doing well? 44 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: We're doing fine, obviously we're you know, so victory Monday 45 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: is even if it was kind of a weird game 46 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: out in London. What did you think about that game? 47 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: And then I guess my follow up is do you 48 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: think Justin Fields will hang on to the starting quarterback 49 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: job in New York? 50 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean tvd on Fields, He's got to play 51 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 6: better and looks I think the Broncos had a defensively 52 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 6: Di did a great job and that pressure, you know, 53 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 6: it's like, well Field gets criticized for not delivering the ball, 54 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 6: It gets criticized for the nine sacks, and for sure 55 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 6: some of those are on him, but part of the 56 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 6: reason he wouldn't deliver the ball was he didn't know 57 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 6: what he was seeing. You know. I think one thing 58 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 6: we've learned as a vanch Joseph is a pretty good 59 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator. And sometimes the offenses look bad because the 60 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 6: Broncos defense is good. 61 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: No. 62 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 6: I thought the Jets did a nice shop defensively too, 63 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, they made Sean Payton's offense 64 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 6: if you didn't look not as good. There was a 65 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 6: little bit of an ugly win, but they all count 66 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 6: the same, so I think Denver probably should be pretty 67 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 6: happy with it. 68 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: All Right, So a lot of news around the NFL. 69 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: There's gonna be a new coach down and with the 70 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans and Mike McCoy, former Denver broncos a's coach 71 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: off asive coordinator, is stepping in. Is it safe to 72 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: say that the Tennessee Titans right now at this point, 73 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: they really don't have any type. 74 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: Of direction as far as we're coaching, and with. 75 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 6: Their quarterback, well, I think with their quarterback at least 76 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: they have a guy. And you know, if you're a 77 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 6: future head coach of the Titans, or someone certainly willing 78 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: to you know, wanting to come in there. I mean, 79 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 6: that's that's what you want, is you want a guy 80 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 6: now you know, did it hurt his development from being 81 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 6: with Brian Callahan for a year. Maybe, but there's precedent 82 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 6: that a new good coach can come in and help 83 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 6: things look better. The Patriots or they're playing this year, 84 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 6: they just did it right. I mean they ha Drake 85 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 6: May with grod Meyo last year was a mess, and 86 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 6: then Mike Brabel and Josh mcganiel's come in all of 87 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 6: a sudden, they're foreign to and looking a lot better. 88 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 6: So you know, you get a good coach in there, 89 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 6: I think it can be okay. A couple of names 90 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 6: to watch. I would say Matt Naggie, who was with 91 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 6: Mike Boganzhi in Kansas City did a really good job 92 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 6: as the offensive coordinator there. Arthur Smith, former Falcons coach, 93 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 6: former Titans OS who would be another name. You know, 94 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 6: there's gonna be some good candidates to watch, no doubt 95 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 6: about it. I mean I would say, you know, especially 96 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 6: kind of where they are in their development, that's a 97 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 6: pretty good job for someone to take on. 98 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable though, and it was pointed out by 99 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: multiple people today about how first overall pick quarterbacks have 100 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: really had a tough time hanging on to their head coaches. 101 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: You talked about Urban Meyer with Trevor Lawrence, frank Reich 102 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: with Bryce Young, Matt Everflussen, then of course Brian Callahan, 103 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: now with cam Warden. It's an interesting thing because you 104 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: want to develop and give these guys continuity, but then 105 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: simultaneously the rug gets pulled out from underneath them most 106 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: of the time in their rookie year. 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it's hard to be bad, and this 108 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 7: is you know, part of the problem is like people 109 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 7: are like, you know, I want to build the right way, 110 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 7: and it's like, okay, well to build the right way, 111 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 7: you got to kind of be a little bit bad sometimes. 112 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 6: I mean, the Texans are a good team, they got 113 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: a good foundation, They're obviously going to be the records 114 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 6: will be better this year, but I think everyone would 115 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 6: say they're stable. Well, they went through a couple of 116 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 6: coaches before Damiica Ryans and a couple of bad seasons 117 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 6: where they collected really good players. So one good way 118 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 6: to get good is to be bad. Probably if you 119 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 6: have to go through it, and that's not fun for anyone. 120 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 6: So I think that's one of the hard things. 121 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: You know. 122 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: It's like you can't just flick a switch and be like, 123 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 6: all right, we're the number one overall pick. All right, 124 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 6: next year we're gonna go nine to eight, like, you know, 125 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 6: much harder to actually do it, and so, you know, 126 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 6: I think it's more like if you hire a good coach, 127 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 6: then you have a better chance with the number one pickes. 128 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 6: Just people have hired bad coaches. I think's part of 129 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 6: the problem. 130 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: So with that being said, how should we look at 131 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: the whole Baker Mayfield store, Because we know he was 132 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: the former first round draft choice who had to go 133 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: to a bunch of teams and he was seemed to 134 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: be pushed. 135 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: Aside as a cast out. 136 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: But now we're seeing that he is revitalizing his career 137 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: and someone even say that he's in. 138 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: The MVP conversation. 139 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: So well, the Baker Mayfield situation change how. 140 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: Most teams evaluate quarterbacks from here on out. 141 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 6: I would say he is in the MVP conversation, but 142 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 6: probably not because I'm probably not. It'll change because you know, 143 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 6: what people look at is what's best of them right now. 144 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 6: I mean very very very few people, very few teams 145 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 6: in the NFL can look at it and go all right, 146 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 6: well I'm going through this now. It's bad, but I'm 147 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 6: just gonna hang on and wait because it's gonna get good. 148 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 6: I think with Baker specifically, you know, if I remember, 149 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 6: if I remember correctly, you know, he he had surgery 150 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 6: on his left labor and it messed with his mechanics 151 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 6: like for a year. I believe that's correct, and so 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 6: I think, you know, had the Browns been willing to wait, 153 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 6: it would have been probably would have ended up okay. 154 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 6: The problem was is they eyed a new quarterback and 155 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: they're like, all right, like we're gonna go trade for 156 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson. 157 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 7: And that was that. 158 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 6: You know, there's not always that option out there. But 159 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 6: you know, I would say most people don't want to 160 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 6: stick with anything. I think that's part of the problem. 161 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Well let's go here for you. Ian always appreciate it. Man. 162 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: So Brian Branch with the Detroit Lions gets a one 163 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: game suspension after last night's altercation with Juju Smith Schuster. 164 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: It's always an interesting thing because it's the second guy, 165 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: right because Juju saw a cheap shot of him, but 166 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: then he comes in after the end of the game 167 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: and he ends up hitting him in the face. 168 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 2: So I guess that's the lesson here. 169 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, the lesson is don't don't 170 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 6: cheap shot anyone and keep you cool. You know, it 171 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: was it was weird because you know, the game was 172 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 6: a little bit chippy, but I didn't think it was 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: that bad. Brand gets hit from behind, you know, he 174 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 6: comes back and sort of retaliates, and right in front 175 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 6: of the cameras, you know, right in front of the cameras. 176 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 6: They basically show him mushing Juju Smith Schuster, and that's 177 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 6: you know, once it's out there, and once there's a 178 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: president of the one game suspension for Jalen Carter obviously 179 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 6: because pension was coming. You know what, Brian Branch was contrite. 180 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: He was upset. He believes it's not him. But if 181 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 6: that's the case, then you got to figure out a 182 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 6: way to keep you cool. The NFL is going to 183 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: crack down, and certainly they they certainly cracked down today 184 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 6: and you know, hopefully this service is a lesson for 185 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 6: a lot of people. 186 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, and I see and by the way, kudos to 187 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: you being able to tweet and talk at the same 188 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: time because I cannot do this. That Brian Branch is appealing, 189 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: So good job you to get that out there. 190 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 6: Man, I mean, I believe me, like I have the 191 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 6: phone on I was waiting for that news, so I 192 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 6: have the phone on speaker while I do this. But 193 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 6: these is you know, Mondays, this is what Monday is like. Sure, 194 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 6: I was supposed to do TV at six thirty my time, 195 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 6: and then it moved to six because of the firing, 196 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: and then it moved to a different time because of 197 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 6: the suspension. It's sort of like you got to stand 198 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: your toes in this world. 199 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: You know, no doubt. 200 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Man. 201 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: Hey, well, we appreciate all that you do and thank 202 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: you so much for the time. 203 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: Man. 204 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. All right, Thank you, guys, Right, 205 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: thank you. 206 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: That's he Gon wrap Aport Network Insider. Right now we're 207 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to the hotline and bring on doctor Dave Schneider. 208 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Ortho Colorado Hospital, part of Common 209 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Spirit Health. Go to Ortho Colorado dot org. 210 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Doctor Dave. Good to check in with you, sir. How 211 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: are you. 212 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 8: I'm doing great, happy, beautiful victory Monday. 213 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Indeed for all of our teams, did you rush the 214 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: field on Saturday nights? 215 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 8: No, that's good, and then we reserved that for bowl 216 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 8: games or you know some such fair. 217 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Enough, fair enough, well bed rag team. I don't know, 218 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean some people might might enjoy that. We just 219 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: got some news moments ago that an MRI revealed that 220 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson hyper extended his knee and is now expected 221 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: to miss, according to one source, multiple weeks. 222 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: So hyper extended knee. What does that look like? 223 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 8: Well, it is curious because he seemed to be in 224 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 8: and out of the game. Wasn't closely bought it And 225 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 8: if you look at what happened in that first half, 226 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 8: what a nightmare for the the Jets. But when someone 227 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 8: hyper extends, one of two things tends to happen. When 228 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 8: you hyper extend, the front of your meniscus in the 229 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 8: knee can get contused to get a little bruise actually 230 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 8: in the meniscus, that Carl legend is a discuss in 231 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 8: your knee. Or you can actually stress a little bit 232 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 8: your post your cruisie ligament at the pcl so cause 233 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 8: you need to swell. There were reports that he was 234 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 8: limbiting around the locker room after the game. So I 235 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 8: suspect he'd probably bruised or stretch something and miss a 236 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 8: few weeks and then I'm probably be back to normal. 237 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: Well, we look around the league. 238 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: There are a couple of wide receivers and Making Buca 239 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: and Cavin Rilly who really plays for the Titans, and 240 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: Buka plays for the Buccaneers. They're dealing with hamstring injuries 241 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: and they're questionable forore week seven. What could be the 242 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: possible difficulties with these guys trying to get back on 243 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: the field. 244 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 8: You know, it's funny to me, we all remember how 245 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 8: snake bitten the Broncos were three or four years ago. 246 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 8: Remember it felt like there like nine or ten hamstring injuries, 247 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 8: and there's been this concern in the league. I'd be 248 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 8: curious what your playing experience was. Where more and more 249 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 8: guys do the prep for the combined the speed and 250 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 8: agility drills and not the whole conditioning, strength, explosiveness. And 251 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 8: I think one of the risks with that type of 252 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 8: training is that you're ready for a certain type of 253 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 8: skill that's non contact. Then you get in the league 254 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 8: and then it starts getting cold and people start tearing 255 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 8: their hamstrings, So I was hoping that we were going 256 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 8: to see a decrease in hamstring injuries. And I don't 257 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 8: know what the data is showing this year so far, 258 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 8: but I think those when those receivers are coming back 259 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 8: from it more and more, they're getting a plately rich 260 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 8: plasma injection, a PRP shot and the hamstrings and I 261 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 8: think they missed less time that way. 262 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred Warner, that ankle was pretty brutal yesterday. That's 263 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: another snake, big team. But what kind of rehab. I mean, 264 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: he's out for the season. What does that look like 265 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,479 Speaker 1: for him? 266 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 8: It's gruesome as a fractured dislocation of the ankle looks, 267 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 8: and it's terrible. Everyone kind of gasps. I don't care 268 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 8: how tough you are. Every player kind of turns his 269 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 8: back and can't stand it. It's actually better to snap 270 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 8: your leg like a twig and have fracture fixation with 271 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 8: plates and screws as opposed to just twisting the ankle 272 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 8: because that causes a lot of cartilage damage. Yes, he's 273 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 8: done for the season. I think he'll be back as 274 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 8: good as new, especially an animal like Warner. 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: That's remarkable. 276 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. It was for the squeamish. Do not 277 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: look it up. It was. 278 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: It was pretty awful to look at. 279 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 8: Don't look not as bad as Tyrek. 280 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, but still not good. 281 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, let me sticking with the injuries, 282 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: but I want to dip into college football. So Oklahoma 283 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 4: quarterback Jeometsire he suffered a hand injury. He went, I 284 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 4: think California to get it back. But he played this 285 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: weekend and. 286 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: You just watch him. 287 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: Its all bloody and rus and he just didn't really 288 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: look like himself. You know what, what did that rehab 289 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: actually look like? And obviously he came back entirely too soon. 290 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 8: I think, so his play was not stellar. That thumb 291 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 8: fracture he has if you look down at your hand, 292 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 8: and you know the thumb itself only has those two 293 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 8: bones as opposed to three bones that your fingers have. 294 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 8: He broke that lower bone and reports were that it 295 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 8: was with three screws and ironically having surgery only two 296 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 8: weeks ago. It's the incision that we worry about, like 297 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 8: ripping open, especially that being his passing hand, that the 298 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 8: skin can rip open. Now it's infected that his operation 299 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 8: was done at curling Joe, which I'm proudly trained there 300 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 8: in Los Angeles by the hand Guy. If anyone in 301 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 8: the league or Major League Baseball has a major hand injury, 302 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 8: they're going to fly to LA and he's to have 303 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 8: Stephen do the operation on them. But it's still just 304 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 8: three screws. And in the game of football, he went 305 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 8: down a number of times, obviously a running quarterback. I 306 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 8: was I was like shielding my eyes, thinking that guy 307 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 8: is gonna get his thumb grabbed onto it's gonna snap. 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: DODR. Snyder. Always great to catch up with you. Thanks 309 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: so much for the time today. 310 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 8: Thanks guys, have a good day, all right, Doctor. 311 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Dave Schneider from Ortho Colorado, Ortho Colorado dot org. We've 312 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: been disagreeing for most of the show. I wouldn't say 313 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: on a victory Monday, I wouldn't say that we are disagreeing. 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: We just have different vantage points. 315 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. Okay, what's what's it? What's what's is fair? 316 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I am all four agreeing to disagree. I'm 317 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,239 Speaker 4: all four. Now your buddy's on the text line. 318 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's an entirely different animal. 319 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Well, in fairness to the textures, it's one thing to 320 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: fire off a hot take text into the station yes 321 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: and say wherever you want to say, and not have 322 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to answer for it in person, like we sit here 323 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: in person, we have to have these conversations. 324 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: The textures can sit it in and say what were you? 325 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: And then it's like then they go about their day 326 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the rest of the days. 327 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: It's beautiful out here's fall you know, like pull over. 328 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: Let me say something to Rhine on the text. 329 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: So I get that. I understand it's sort of the 330 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: nature of it. But yeah, I mean you were you 331 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: were getting crushed, and I think that's justified. 332 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: What what? 333 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: What? What? 334 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: Why do you have to go back and say after 335 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: all you said about the text line, Oh, by the way, 336 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: you you good? And I just trying to keep it 337 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: a buck. That's okay, you know what text line. Look, Hey, 338 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm a grown ass man. I appreciate the fact that 339 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: you have your own independent thoughts. I welcome those thoughts, 340 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: even if I disagree with it, even. 341 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: If from the couch. 342 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: See that's what running. I just said that. 343 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: That's what you're thinking. 344 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, hell you're telling me what I'm thinking. 345 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: Now you're thinking. 346 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Feel free to disagree from your couch versus somebody that 347 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: played the games. 348 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: See, there's a difference between someone actually saying something verbally 349 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: and someone thinking that someone said something. 350 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: So you heard he and Rappebord there giving love to 351 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: the defense. Of course, ask him about the game. Yes, 352 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: first thing that comes to his mind was what the 353 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Broncos defense. 354 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: And they have a tendency to make even maybe the 355 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: more superior or middle level or bottom tier quarterbacks look worse. 356 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 9: You realize Darons nap again, format pressure, get in the pocket, 357 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 9: pulling away from pressure, and now finally being grabbed and 358 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 9: pulled down at the forty one yard line, and that'll 359 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 9: be a sack. The sack there by Nick Benito, Benito 360 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 9: and Zach Allen together for the Broncos. 361 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: You realize they're on pace for eighty five sacks. 362 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: Yes, that's will will exceed and break the record they 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: kind of historically made last year with sixty five with 364 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: sixty three sacks. 365 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Yes, but and then seventy two is the record with 366 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: the Bears in eighty five, so they would shatter that record. 367 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, isn't Nick franchise record last year? 368 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: Right? 369 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: But Nick Monito is the NFL on pace for twenty four, 370 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 4: which would therefore. 371 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: Lead yes, that would also be a record. 372 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: Exactly and sign me up for it. And those guys 373 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: have done a hell of a job. And we lived 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: so much in the NFL where we just talked solely 375 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: about the quarterback and those on the offensive side of 376 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: the ball, that we really don't talk about the defense 377 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: and the way that they should. When I think about 378 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: two thousand and six Baltimore Ravens, you mentioned, you know, 379 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: the eighty five eighty six bears right to me, they 380 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: help out their team because that gives you more possessions, 381 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: but it also keeps showing the game, which we've seen 382 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: over the past two years. This defense on the vance 383 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: Joseph has done time and time and time again for 384 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: this team. And I'm not saying this to separate offense 385 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: from defense, but to validate and elevate these players and 386 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: the head coaching, the coaching to that level that they deserve. 387 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things I wanted to get 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: into on this one, and they are related to the defense, 389 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: so we're not straying too far off. The first one 390 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: is the decision at halftime are going into half from 391 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Glynn I don't know what that was. Yeah, I 392 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I'm still and I rewatched it again 393 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: today and there was some rationale and reasoning going on their. 394 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee actually thought he had a really good point 395 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: today about it, because I was trying to understand any 396 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: concept of it because it's so foreign as far as 397 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: an NFL team to go for it on fourth down. 398 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: They get the first down and then try to flow 399 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: it down and run the club. 400 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: So what was McAfee's logic. 401 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: His logic was, if they don't get the fourth and one, 402 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: and let me see exactly where they were, because they 403 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: were in negative territory at that point, if they don't 404 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: get the fourth and one at their own forty one 405 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: yard line, okay, so that's where they're set up right now. 406 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 407 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a little closer to that, 408 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: but anyways, it was just it was just on their 409 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: side of the fifty either way. So if they don't 410 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: get the fourth and one, they turned the ball over. 411 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: The Broncos are relatively close to field goal range. So 412 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: his mindset was the Jets offense had really struggled. Okay, 413 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what he said. The Jets offense 414 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: had really struggled at that point. The focus was more 415 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: so on let's not get the ball back in the 416 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: hands of the Broncos offense, who actually had been moving 417 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the ball. They stubbed their own toe because of penalties, 418 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: but they had found some ways to have some success 419 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: in both, mostly the pass game, but a little bit 420 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: through the run game, and they would have been only 421 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: about ten yards away from attempting a field goal at half. 422 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: So the way Pat reasoned it out was this was 423 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: sort of the lesser of two evils. Knowing you were 424 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: going to get the ball. 425 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: Out of half, Okay, couldn't you in that situation? If 426 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: that was the ideology all coming from Pat McAfee, just 427 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: punt the ball and put the Broncos in a situation 428 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: right before the half where they would have to throw 429 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: a couple of explosive plays, and known is that the 430 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: Broncos were struggling offensively, the Jets could have gotten the 431 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: ball back, but you're still trying to make it to half. 432 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: But also if and. 433 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Then it's just forty seven by the way. 434 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: Okay, but then what you also could do take a 435 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: shot down the field offensively, roll your quarterback out, get 436 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: him on the perimeter, get him, get him an easy throw, 437 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 4: take a shot down the field. You still go into. 438 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: The half even if the Broncos were to intercept it. 439 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: Just look at it like as a punt. 440 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I agree, And I say, especially as the clock was 441 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: winding down and he even brought this up, you say, 442 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I think maybe attempting even a hail. 443 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Mary at that point, why not just what do you 444 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: have to lose? 445 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: That's a whole that's much better than just doing nothing. 446 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 4: Yes, because Garrett Wilson seemed like he was very shocked 447 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: and surprised, like what. 448 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: Did we just do? 449 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: The entire NFL world, everybody out in London, there was 450 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: there was a single person in that moment, And I 451 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: remember listening to it with Dave Rick that they couldn't 452 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: understand it either, And it was like, as the clock 453 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: is ticking, I was like, are they trying to see 454 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: if the Broncos will jump off sides? 455 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: Like, no, they're really not lining up. 456 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: They seem to be very patient with this process and 457 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: then time just ran out. It was the weirdest thing 458 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. 459 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 6: Now. 460 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: The other thing that was wild because in all my 461 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: years playing here and playing abroad in the NFL Europe 462 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: and in Canada. I never I've never seen a head 463 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: coach go out to midfield. Now I've seen Alex Gibbs 464 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 4: go out by the numbers right and he had to 465 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: be pulled back. 466 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: Eric Glynn went all the way like. 467 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: All on the field, he like he was a fish 468 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 4: who trying to help them spot the ball. 469 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 2: And I can't believe you didn't get flagged for it. 470 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was waiting like I was like, wait a minute, 471 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: a flag is coming somewhere, but it never came. 472 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: Yes. 473 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: Stunned by that. So I thought that back Ifee made 474 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: a good point. 475 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting point because again as 476 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: a thought exercise, even rewatching it today, I kept going like, well, okay, 477 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: now that i've heard McAfee's take on is, I can 478 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of see the little bit of the logic here 479 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: is like, we're at our own forty seven yard line. 480 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: If we don't convert this, the Broncos are right, and 481 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: they had the Broncos at a time out too, so 482 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos were holding onto that time out, they would 483 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: have had an option there. I still think the play 484 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: is to be a little aggressive. You're a pro football 485 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: team with ostensibly a pro football quarterback trying to win 486 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: your first game of the season. There's got to be 487 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of a mindset there. And you've been 488 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: on good teams, you've been on some bad teams. There's 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a mindset shift when hey, we've 490 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: got nothing to lose. 491 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: And I never felt that for the Jets yesterday. 492 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I never felt a team that was backs against the wall, 493 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: our entire season on the line, and hey, we've got 494 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: a shot at winning this game. 495 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Nobody thought we could win this game. 496 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: We're six and a half, seven point underdogs, and here 497 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: we are, We're on the doorstep of winning this thing. 498 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I never got the desperation since from them, and that 499 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: moment was very clear and indicative to that to me. 500 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I totally agree because. 501 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: Unrelated to what Pat was trying to say, I mean, 502 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: that was his way of diagnosing to play. To me, 503 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: at that point, you still pun the ball away and 504 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: put the Broncos on the long field. But like you said, 505 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: your back is against the wall. You don't have a 506 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: win all season long. What do you have to lose, 507 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 4: Because even if you lose the game, everyone's gonna look 508 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: at you the same way. So you take shots, and 509 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: who's to say that you don't take a shot down 510 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: the field, get a pass interference call, and we can't 511 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: end the half on a penalty. You have another opportunity 512 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: to either kick a field goal or have another opportunity 513 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: to score, and you get the. 514 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: Ball back in the second half. Kind of book in 515 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 3: the quarters. 516 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: I couldn't understand it somewhat, so Ryan I called one 517 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: of my former Jets. 518 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Teammates immediately, I said, what what did I just watch? 519 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: And even he couldn't explain it articulated to me. 520 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: The other one is the end of the game that 521 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about. 522 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: So, facing a fourth and eight, okay more than eight, 523 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with minute fourteen or whatever remain in the clock, you 524 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: could attend to sixty one sixty two yarder from there, 525 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: or you could go for it. Now this is ultimately 526 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: decided to go for it. And this is what happened. 527 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 10: The fields in the pocket pressure pulls away from Cooper 528 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 10: that will be sack back at the forty four yard 529 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 10: line Timver's football with one oh nine left, Cooper and 530 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 10: Jones the ninth sack of the game for the Broncos. 531 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: And even though it was ugly for much of the game. 532 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: The Broncos are going to get out of London tied 533 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 5: for first place at work in the AFC West, So 534 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 5: we're grateful. 535 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: We're grateful that that was the decision that they ultimately made, 536 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: because you're playing into the strength of the Broncos. However, 537 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: in that moment, and it's always easy to second guess. 538 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm not intentionally second guessing Aaron Glynn here. I think, 539 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: based on the way things had gone with my offense, 540 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: I feel almost better putting Nick Folk out there for 541 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: a sixty one sixty two yard or even though he that's. 542 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: Much longer than his career long. 543 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Then I'd feel with my quarterback who's been pummeled back 544 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: there trying to connect on a fourth and eight at 545 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: that juncture of the game, that's me, what do you think? 546 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm okay with Aaron making that attempt 547 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: based on the fact that you know you haven't won 548 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 4: any games. 549 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad they did it. I'm glad, I'm 550 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: glad they did it right. 551 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: But what I would have done was I would have 552 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: called a better play, okay, because that's good you was 553 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: sacked by Johnny Cooper yeah, okay, Well, once again, how 554 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: can I give my quarterback an opportunity to even make 555 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: a play. To me, we're gonna go, We're gonna run 556 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 4: away from Nick Benito. 557 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna go right at Johnathan Cooper. We're gonna pull 558 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: our guard. 559 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna let Johnathan Cooper gets a get 560 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: up field, then we're gonna seal him on the edge. 561 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: We know we have a very mobile quarterback, regardless of 562 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: what people may think of him, and we know he 563 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: has somewhat of a strong larn. Give him an opportunity 564 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: to take a shot down the field. And that's something 565 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 4: that the Jets really didn't. 566 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: Do all game. They didn't take shots down the field. 567 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: And like Ian alluded to, and I've said it, and 568 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: you can check out the video I posted at Nick 569 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: ferguson Underscore twenty five. When you are under duress, it 570 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: is hard to set your feet, it is hard to 571 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: go through your reads. You may say, right before the 572 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: ball is snap, here is Garrett Wilson. The officer coordinator 573 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: told me to get him involved. He's gonna be my 574 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 4: first read. Oh I'm looking at him right now. What 575 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: he's covered and what that means is that Pats or 576 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: Tan is in his hip pocket, so I have to 577 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 4: come off of him. Where else can I go with 578 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: the ball? Oh, I'm sorry, I can't go anywhere else. 579 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna stare down Garrett Wilson. Pressure in my face. 580 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: Now I'm taking a sack. And now someone saying, hey, 581 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm holding the ball too long. You know why They're 582 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: telling me to throw the ball to my only option, 583 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: which is Garrett Wilson. So I'm holding the ball until 584 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: he breaks free. So that's why I'm holding the damn ball. 585 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: That is a courtesy of Cafe In. I love that call. 586 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: Now does it make more sense to you? 587 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 8: Now? 588 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: I still don't agree with you, but I know what 589 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I will I will acknowledge one point 590 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: that you're making. Okay, one, just one, just one, Okay, Look, 591 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: I'm meeting you halfway. 592 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: What do you got? What do you have for me? 593 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: We don't always know what players are being coached or 594 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: told to do exactly, so what we assess is based 595 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: on our own perceptions and on we think a quarterback 596 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: would do under similar circumstance. 597 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: But that's not exactly what he may be told to do. 598 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: So what you're saying, maybe you don't know that, but 599 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: your your assessment is and and it probably is based 600 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: on some time in the game, I don't know, a 601 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: couple of years. It's that these guys get coached rigorously, right, 602 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: and they're told very specific instructions on what to do, 603 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: when to do it, and how right. So this it 604 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: would stand to reason that Justin Fields will say, well, 605 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to Garin Wilson through he targeted 606 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: eight times in the game, only three connections, but targeting 607 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: may times in the game. There's clearly an intention to 608 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: go after him, We're regardless of who was covering him. 609 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: And so if there's a little bit of a this 610 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: is what you have to do, this is what we're 611 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: trying to do, rather than giving him an opportunity to 612 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: feel it out for himself, then yeah, maybe that's the possibility. 613 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Now you're assuming some things, but I'm willing to meet 614 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: you halfway on that possibility rather than just tell you. 615 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: No, Well, let me tell you what I'm not assuming. 616 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: Because I'm going back and I'm watching the tape and 617 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: I'm watching where Justin Field's head is when he's looking 618 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: for guys I'm also watching the splits where Garrett Wilson 619 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: is a line, he's aligned inside the numbers. Why to 620 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 4: give him an easy opportunity to either get from right 621 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: to left or left to right. Case in point, there 622 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: was a deflection batt Pat Sutan on a speed out 623 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like, Okay, well, I know Pat knows this. 624 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: I'm watching the game and I'm like, I know this. 625 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: You have Garrett Wilson on top of the numbers. He 626 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: can only run two routes. At that point, I'd run 627 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: the shallow go across the field as though he's run 628 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: many times in the game, or he's given himself room 629 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: to run the speed out. 630 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: And Pat knew this. 631 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: The moment the receiver comes off the line of scrimmage 632 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: and his direction, his intention is not to go across 633 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: the field. Guess where he's going, Ryan, He's running a 634 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: speed up And that's how patser Tann was able to 635 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: break up the pass. See, this is where your off 636 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: as a coordinator has to help your quarterback out moving 637 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: a wide receiver around. But that told me there was 638 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: going to be a conservative effort to get Garrett. 639 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: Wilson more involved. 640 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: And that's how I know what I know as far 641 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: as justin fields holding the ball. 642 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: Fields with the shotgun, looks over the rush throws the. 643 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: Ball left side. That ball knocked away. 644 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: A good defensive play there by Patser Tan Patser Tan 645 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 5: on Garrett Wilson on the output right in front of 646 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: the Broncos bench. 647 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: He got his left hand, the inside hand. 648 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: Up and knock that ball the way the Jets are 649 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: gonna have to pump it away with five thirteen left. 650 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: And that was a great play by pass. 651 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: And like you said, it's based on you have two 652 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: options here, and so Pat knows that obviously being as 653 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: good as he is, and was there to break it up. 654 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: A couple texts here on the Kwae Commas spirit Heal 655 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: text line five to six six nine zero. Hey guys 656 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: that thoroughly enjoy the psychological ping pong on whatever topic 657 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: it is. 658 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Keep it up. Thanks. A lot of people have. 659 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Entered frustration out on Ryan and Nick. You guys make 660 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: my day every day from three to six no cap. 661 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very. 662 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: Kind, so appreciate that. 663 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: Don't forget the lovely Grant Smith behind the glass. 664 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: Lovely. 665 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: Yes, he does a great job, so let's give him 666 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: as applause. 667 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Take Taking It for Granted podcast, check it out there 668 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: you go on demand this one. The reality is, I 669 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: don't know anything about the kicker, Nick miss Nick Folk, 670 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: So if this is a kick that he can make 671 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: is a real question. 672 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: And I mean that is a really good point. 673 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we're sixty two yards. 674 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Sixty two yards, it's not I just say, under the 675 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: circumstances and the way they again showed us in the 676 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 1: first half, how they felt about their offense. 677 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: I if you don't. 678 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Think he can convert a fourth and one with an 679 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: opportunity maybe to put your team in position, why are 680 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: we going. 681 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: For a fourth and eight? 682 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: That's because they believe that the kicker couldn't make it. 683 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: I mean it appears that way. 684 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: And again I sitting on my couch ostensibleieve and thinking, well, 685 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: this hasn't worked so well for your offense so far, 686 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: why are we gonna do this again again? Is a 687 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: Broncos fan. I was very thrilled with the decision. When 688 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: when I heard they were lining up to go for 689 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: an on fourth and eight, I was like, Broncos just 690 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: won this game before the play even happened. By the way, 691 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: there was a moment, uh and it was a pass 692 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: to Garrett Wilson in the flat. 693 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: It was was that the one where made the tackle? 694 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I think I think so. Look, Jakwan, hey, that 695 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: guy's he's a baller. 696 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: Before the season, I know everyone was pounding the table, Well, jday, 697 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: Barron's going to go in and move toa kwad. I 698 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: told you, Kwan, I say, look, you're in training camp. 699 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: Don't listen to these people. Yeah, you are a dog 700 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: of a player. He is live breed and eat that 701 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: he was. 702 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: He's been phenomenal, phenomenal. Wait, and he. 703 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: Made not one, not two, but three first down field 704 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: goal saving tackles. 705 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Agreed, and he made a great tackle there on seven 706 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: yard passes to Garret Wilson on the right. If you 707 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: go back and watch it, Alex Singleton landed on top 708 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: of Garrett Wilson. So but because it reminded me last 709 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: week with the Eagles. This right, it reminded me last Now, 710 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: Garret Wilson was facing away so. 711 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: So, but his knee had already touched on the ground. 712 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: Though he was down, and and Alex took two steps 713 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: to land on top of him. 714 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, here we go. 715 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 4: That's gonna put the Jets and Phild go position. 716 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: I was screaming, like, oh my god, they're gonna throw 717 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: a flag on this because it just happened week now. 718 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: The difference was so Riley so r J. 719 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: Harvey was down, but his he was facing towards the 720 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: defense because he was fighting for yards. 721 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: That's the difference. 722 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: And and and Zack Bond hit him in the face 723 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: with his with his arm, So that a little bit 724 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: different because I think that the view of it looked 725 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: more if you look. 726 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: At what Alex did. I mean, you still are pouncing 727 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: on the player. 728 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and and Alex probably should have 729 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: been flagged for that. And if you would have been 730 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: flagged for that, and the Broncos lost that game because 731 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: of a fifteen yard personal foul, I'm just saying. But 732 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: I was rewatching it, so I saw it live. I 733 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: was like, all right, did I see now it didn't 734 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: throw a flag? 735 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 6: All right? 736 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm thinking but I rewatched it today, I 737 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: was like, no, I saw exactly what I saw. Alex 738 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Singleton took another step and it landed on top of 739 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, and they would have been right to throw 740 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: a flag on that play. 741 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 2: And then this entire day would have been ruined. Well, 742 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: just and just. 743 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Think about it in terms of what people already think 744 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: about Alex Singleton right now and some of his struggles 745 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: with running backs and tight ends out of the backfield, 746 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: and another. 747 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 4: Of criticism and making a play and that particularly making 748 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: yourself well known. 749 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: For that particular play. 750 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 4: To me, you don't want to do, and the ref 751 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: would have been well within their right. 752 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: This is not me. 753 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: Immediately I thought we would have to burn down. 754 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: And I kind of looked around, like did anyone else 755 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: see that? 756 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: You don't want to say anything? Yes? 757 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I know they're playing in London, and I 758 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: thought that if I said something, they would actually hear me. 759 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't say anything. Don't say anything, dude. 760 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: That's exactly how it was. And then I realized, oh, 761 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: they can't hear me. That's what an idiot. They can't 762 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 3: hear you. But I thought about the Zach Bombs playing. 763 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: I was like, for sure it was going to be 764 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: a late flag. 765 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: That come on, And I was like, oh man, the 766 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 4: Jets are gonna get in a field position and they're 767 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: gonna kick this game when the field goal. 768 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: What a bummer. But the refs never through the flag