1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The Mark Belling Podcast is presented by you Line for 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: quality shipping and industrial supplies. You Line has everything in stock. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Visit you line dot com. The Markbelling Podcast is a 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio Podcasts. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes history repeats itself. There's a story in the news 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin right now that, like the earlier story. As 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: I said, this is a story that's repeating itself. There's 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: a lot of similarities in the way people have wanted 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: to look the other way and pretend that they're not 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: seeing what they're seeing. The same thing happened several decades ago. 11 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: When you got reports they were scattered one here, one 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: way over there of Roman Catholic priests messing her with kids, 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: mostly boys, and there were just a lot of people 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: who wanted to look the other way. The former Milwaukee 15 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: County District Attorney Mike McCann consulted with the Milwaukee Archdiocese 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: and he famously advised, take care of it, no need 17 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: to bring criminal charges, etc. This was going on all 18 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: over the country. Bishops and cardinals and the Catholic Church 19 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: were well, let's work with the person. The person could repent. 20 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: We believe in repentance and forgiveness. The person's had problems, 21 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: the family doesn't want anything to go public, and even 22 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: though these reports were coming in, there were a whole 23 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: lot of people who looked the other way and simply 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: didn't want to acknowledge that it was going on. And 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: we see what the result of that was. We lost 26 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five years in addressing the problem, and 27 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: the Catholic Church ended up with a massive hit to 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: its credibility. Then everything blew up and the situation has 29 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: been largely resolved. You hear about these types of cases 30 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: almost never anymore, but in the process, the church had 31 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: its reputation damaged, the story repeating itself. It is just 32 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: clear to me, with all of these cases that we 33 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: have and now the report that came out of the 34 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: cap Times of Madison, that we have a crisis in 35 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Wisconsin of way more perverted teachers than we imagined in 36 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: the same fashion that we go back forty to fifty 37 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: years that was going on in the Catholic Church. Every 38 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: indication that this is being covered up, with the chief 39 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: cover upper being Jill Underly, the head of the Wisconsin 40 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Department of Public Instruction, We're going to attempt to lift 41 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: the veil on this storm and talk about its political 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: implications as we move forward here on today's podcast. Have 43 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: you ever been offered an add on option for premium 44 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: or white glove service? 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Josh Shulman, 51 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor Washington County Executive, held a video 52 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: conference today, once again drawing attention to his call for 53 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: Jill Underlead to resign as head of the Department of 54 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Public Instruction. Underley, who skipped out on a legislative hearing 55 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: attempting to get some answers as to why DPI has 56 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: been caught covering up one hundreds of cases of inappropriate 57 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: behavior and grooming by teachers in public schools, is now 58 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: finally agreeing to testify at a hearing. In addition to 59 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: showman running for governor calling for Underleay's resignation, Tom Tiffany 60 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor is calling on Tony Evers to 61 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: demand Underleay's resignation. Nobody can force her to resign because 62 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: she's an elected official. She doesn't have a boss. She 63 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: is the boss. She can't be recalled from office until 64 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: April of next year. You can't recall someone until one 65 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: year after their last election, and she was re elected 66 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: in April. The only thing that can happen is that 67 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: people can raise their voices and demand that she leave, 68 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: and then I think demand that whoever her successor is, 69 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: it would be filled by appointment clean house. At the 70 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: top of DPI, I mentioned the story from the Cap Times. 71 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Cap Times used to be a newspaper. It's now an 72 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: insert and a website, very leftist news organization from Madison. 73 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: They did a major investigation. They spent spent a year 74 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: on this and released it a week and a half ago. 75 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: The headline was two hundred teacher sexual misconduct grooming cases 76 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: shielded from public. The story that was reported by Danielle Decloue. 77 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. They went through records 78 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: that had been shielded from the public, and they found 79 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: a staggering number of cases of teachers that were investigated 80 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: by the Department of Public Instruction for various instances of 81 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: alleged misconduct. We all know about the cases that result 82 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: in criminal charges, where there's sexual activity that occurs and 83 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: so on, but it's all the ones in between that 84 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: are kind of the here where complaints were brought to 85 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: attention of the state. DPI is in charge of licensing 86 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: teachers in Wisconsin. You can't teach in Wisconsin of the license, 87 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: and DPI, according to this report, almost never revoked licenses, 88 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: and even when it did, it did not disclose to 89 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: the public the reason the license was revoked. This is 90 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: unique to all the other entities that are licensed in Wisconsin. 91 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: For example, if you have your plumbing license revoked, it 92 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: states in the record this is the reason they revoked 93 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: the plumbing license. Shoddy work or they did they ripped 94 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: off some of whatever it is. The story also indicates 95 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: that there were numerous instances the DPI allowed the local 96 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: school district to simply accept the resignation of the teacher, 97 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: but then because the teacher's license was not revoked, the 98 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: teacher went and got hired at another district that had 99 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: no knowledge of what went on. Again, the echoes of 100 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: the scandal that occurred in the Catholic Church are just there. 101 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: This brings us to the question of why is DPI 102 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: soft on this behavior. Well, I have my theory. The 103 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Department of Public Instruction leader, and you can go back 104 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: decades on this is always somebody that the Teachers' Union wants. 105 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: The Department of Public Instruction election, which is held in 106 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: the spring four year terms generally as low profile. There's 107 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: only one special interest group that cares a lot who wins, 108 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: and that's the teachers' unions. So they bank roll a 109 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: candidate that's always a leftist. So the candidate that gets 110 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: in realizes, I'm the head of DPI because I had 111 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: the backing of the teachers Union, and as a result 112 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: of that, DPI simply does not regulate at all rappy teachers, 113 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: never mind sex abuse, in grooming, et cetera. I mean, 114 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: any type of crappy teacher. There's no standards for them whatsoever. 115 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to lose your teaching license in Wisconsin. 116 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: So the nanity that's supposed to be regulating here didn't 117 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: regulate because the Teachers' Union is set up to protect 118 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: the worst of the teachers. If you're a very very 119 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: good teacher, you don't need the union to protect you. 120 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: You're going to be in demand and so on. But 121 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: the bad ones require this. I'm on to quote the 122 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: camp Time story if your printed out is twenty printed 123 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: pages long, and obviously I can't read it here, but 124 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: they've got some interesting points that I want to raise 125 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: it you. Long investigation with the cap Times found the 126 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: State Department of Public Instruction investigated more than two hundred 127 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Wisconsin teachers, aids, substitutes, and administrators from twenty eighteen to 128 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three who were accused of sexual misconduct or 129 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: grooming behaviors towards students. Information previously unknown of the public. 130 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: Let me interject, the actual number of courses way higher. 131 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: These are simply the cases that we know about. Think 132 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: about the number of cases in which a parent finds 133 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: out that their kids have been messed around with with 134 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: the teacher, and they just pulled the cat out of 135 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: the school. They don't say anything that they don't want 136 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: the kid to be in the cross, et cetera. Probably 137 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: way more but two hundred of these got DPI and 138 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: they covered up. Continued the Department's internal records show these 139 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: allegations included educators sexually assaulting students, soliciting nude photos and children, 140 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: or initiating sexual relationships immediately after students graduated. Licensing officials 141 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: also investigated educators accus accused of grooming behaviors like flirting 142 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: with children, spending non school time alone and isolated with students, 143 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: or invading students' personal space by rubbing their shoulders, thighs, 144 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: and luwerbacks. Child sexual abuse prevention advocates and researchers say 145 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: these behaviors have lasting psychological impact effects on children, making 146 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: it harder for them to succeed in school in a 147 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: healthy relationships. The Captimes interviewed seven top seven academics and 148 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: advocates about how the DPI invent instigates and documents educator misconduct. 149 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: Each said the department's practices are inadequately protecting students. They 150 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: quote one paragraph here. Best estimates show one in ten 151 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: students experienced sexual misconduct from educators during their K twelve 152 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: student schooling, according to a federal report. No, again, that 153 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: seems high to me, but it's based on a federal report. 154 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: One in ten. Now, maybe that's a broad example of 155 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: a teacher. Did you know coach pats a kid on 156 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: the butt or something. They're including everything in there, but 157 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: let's image, it's one in one hundred In Wisconsin, that 158 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: rate would amount to more than ninety three thousand school children. 159 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: The cap Times found at least forty four percent of 160 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: the Department of Public Instructions over four hundred and fifty 161 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: educator license investigations since twenty eighteen have involved a sexual 162 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: misconduct or grooming allegation. Think of that forty four percent 163 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: of the cases that they investigated on teacher misconduct involves 164 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: something pertaining to sexual misconduct. A number of researchers and 165 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: advocates sy is likely an undercount in these cases. The 166 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: Captimes investigation also found the Department of Public Instruction is 167 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: dedicating scant resources to investigate educator misconduct, raising questions about 168 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: the quality of its oversight of protection of children. Now again, 169 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: i'll interjec. This is because DPI doesn't want to do 170 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: oversight of teachers, because Jill Underley is a hack who's 171 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: in the bag to the Teachers' union. Without them, she 172 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have a job. So the thing that they're most 173 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: required to do oversea teachers, they don't do it all. Second, 174 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: the department, run by state superintend at Jill Underlay, relies 175 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: on rudimentary system to track its investigations, obscuring the scale 176 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: of misconduct for policymakers in the public. Licensing officials also 177 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: allow it. This is the key to me educators under 178 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: investigation to forfeit their credentials in exchange for avoiding in 179 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: depth probes. In other words, okay, quit and we won't 180 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: ask anything else about it continuing. Unlike a different agency 181 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: that were great relates hundreds of other state licensed professionals 182 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: like nurses and accountants, The DPI doesn't tell the public 183 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: why an educator lost their license. Out of four hundred 184 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: and sixty one teachers the state investigated from twenty eighteen 185 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: to twenty three for all forms of misconduct, two hundred 186 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: and seven kept their credentials and continue working in schools 187 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: with children. Where are we going with this? We have 188 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: an election for governor. As I said, the Republicans have 189 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: weighed in. Showman is pounding the table, demanding Underly resign. 190 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Tiffany is almost there. He's you can say, this is 191 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: a matter of semantics. He's demanding that. Ever's the governor 192 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: demanding that Underlay resign because I guess Evers is the 193 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: only guy who's got the position to do so. Where 194 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: are the Democrats? Sarah rod Regaez. Do you think Jill 195 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: Underlay should resign? Or are you perfectly fine with an 196 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: agency that is allowing massive sexual conduct to occur by teachers? 197 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: David Crowley, Mendela Barnes, who wants to run for governor, 198 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: what do you think about this? This thing is going 199 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: to be very problematic for all of these Democratic candidates 200 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: because everyone knows the teachers' union is a major, powerful 201 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: special interest in democratic politics in Wisconsin. So I'll put 202 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: the question to them, what about the teachers' union and 203 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: what about the teachers themselves? Do all the rest of 204 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: you teachers who aren't perverts want pervert colleagues? If not, 205 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: then you should demand that Underlay go. There won't be 206 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: an election. Her term isn't up for another three years. 207 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't even know what happens in a vacancy of DPI, 208 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: but I think that somebody the governor just appoints and 209 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: interim until the next election. So it's going to be 210 00:13:48,760 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: another Lefty I wrote a newspaper column. Now I don't 211 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: know over twenty five years ago. The people who oversaw 212 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: my column along gone. It was in the early stages 213 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: of the priest abuse scandal. I wrote a column for 214 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 2: the Walkashaw Framement in which I made a comment about 215 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: the seriousness of the This is when the sexual abuse 216 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: scandal was just beginning to go public, and the editors 217 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: didn't want to publish the column. They thought it was 218 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: an attack on religion, and it was anything but that. 219 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: I was trying to aid the church in getting people 220 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: out of the priesthood who needed to be gotten out. 221 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: You see the same thing here, and the Captime story 222 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: itself has not really been picked up on picked up 223 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: on by many other news organizations, and I haven't seen 224 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: a lot of them demand the Jill Underlay resign her position. 225 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: This is the worst type of dereliction of the public trust. 226 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to another story today. Is I 227 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: was going to have a headlined in today's story by 228 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: the first story that I just did on the teacher problem, 229 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: it would have confused it. So it'll be from this 230 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: point forward it's this is the Mark Bellang Soft on 231 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Crime podcast. I'm the one going to be soft on 232 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: the crime. I'm going to cite a couple of cases 233 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: in which I think people were wrongly charged. The first 234 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: this case went to a jury in Milwaukee County this 235 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: week and had to do with a Milwaukee firefighter he 236 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: had to resign and his brother. They were accused of 237 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: assaulting a man in an incident that occurred in twenty 238 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: twenty four. Fortunately, the jury found the two not guilty, 239 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: and I agree with that. Normally, when somebody's accused of 240 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: assault in Milwaukee in a jury, let's him off. I 241 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: rolled my eyes. Oh soft juries again not here. Let 242 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: me quote from the details on js online. These are brothers. 243 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: The last the last names is hyphenate, as you're just following. 244 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Ty Dright Jackson, thirty eight year old former firefighter, and 245 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: his brother, Tremmel Dright were found not guilty of all charges. 246 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: The jury deliberated about three hours. Prosecutors charged each brother 247 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: with first degree reckless battery with substantial battery, first degree 248 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: reckless injury with substantial battery. According to the defense attorney, 249 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: the brothers were stoutled awake in the middle of the 250 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Ninetecember fourth of twenty twenty four, eleven months ago, after 251 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: an intruder broke into Dright's home on the city's near 252 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: west side. The intruder, Jalen Nutt, ended the home while everyone, 253 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: including Dright's two children, were asleep. Inside the home, Nutt, 254 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: that's the guy that broke in, was discovered trying to 255 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: enter the master bedroom. The brothers chased the intruder out 256 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: of the house into a nearby alley, where a fight 257 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: broke out. Video footage obtained by police showed the brothers punching, stomping, 258 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: and kicking Not repeatedly. Court records say Not was later 259 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: hospitalized and suffered a broken nose, cracked teeth, and facial 260 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: injuries that required stitches. So here's the thing. Guy busts 261 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: into their house. Two big guys chase him out of 262 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: the house, and then once he's out of the house, 263 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: beat the crap out of him. So I'm sure the 264 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: prosecutors are saying this was not self defense because they 265 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: got him out of the house and once they got 266 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: up of it, there's no need for the beatdown. I 267 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: say to that, this guy broke into a house. There's 268 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: little kids in the house. These brothers, in my mind, 269 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: are perfectly justified and beating the crap out of the guy. 270 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: No Wisconsin doesn't have a stand your ground law, as 271 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: the state of Florida does. Some think floors stand your 272 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: ground law goes too far in you know, if you 273 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: hear somebody scratching around of the house, it gives you 274 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: the right to throw fifteen grenades at them and so on. 275 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I think given the circumstances here, the threat that was provoked, 276 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: that provoked this is legitimate provocation. And I think the 277 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: guy got what he had coming. I now believe that 278 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: the Milwaukee fire chiefs, very good fire chief should offer 279 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: the one brother it was in his house, he was 280 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: in his brother's home. He should offer him his job back. 281 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: And I applaud the jury for not convicting these two guys. 282 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Somebody breaks into your house when your daughters are little 283 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: in all of that, First of all, I don't think 284 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: you could beat anybody up. But if you then beat 285 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: the guy up and you chased him out of the house, 286 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: do I think you do anything No. I think good 287 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: Paul said he's got all baseball bat by his bed, 288 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: So I agree with letting the guy off. Now a 289 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: story in which I want to make it clear this 290 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: is not part of that trend of soft end crime. 291 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: This is a story in which very serious criminal behavior 292 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: is alleged. This is a crash that occurred last week 293 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Thursday night, November second. The man now charged in Wakshaw's 294 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: County Circuit Court is Casey yayanakapla Yian tough one Yayanaicoppolis 295 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: casey Yanacoppolis, forty seven. According to the authorities, he crashed 296 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: his car into a ditch and then ran off and 297 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: hid inside the car. Killed was his passenger, his seventy 298 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: seven year old mother. When police got to his house 299 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: and they were looking for him, they found him hiding 300 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: inside a crawl space inside the house. Somebody else's in 301 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: the house helped out and pointed out where he was. 302 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: He refused to cooperate with the investigation, including any kind 303 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: of drug test, but they did get a coote order 304 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: for a blood draw. The story on Fox six's site 305 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: says that the results they send those to the crime lab. 306 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: I think the crime lab where they send them to. 307 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: The results are not in, but they said that he 308 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 2: showed numerous signs of impairment and so on. So who 309 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: you have a guy probably intoxicated, drives a car into 310 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: a ditch, kills his mother. If it comes back as intoxication. 311 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: First of all, he doesn't stay at the scene of 312 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: a crash in which his mother, for Heaven's sakes, is dead. 313 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: If it chosen signs of intoxication, I think clearly serious 314 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: charges have to come into place. I do, however, have 315 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: some advice for old yayannakau Ya. I shouldn't even have 316 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: to say his last name. Shouldn't be that hardy yanakopolists. 317 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: Cross your fingers and hope that your case lands in 318 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: the courtroom of Walkershaw County Circuit Judge Scott Wagner, the 319 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: guy who, as we reported earlier in the week, gave 320 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: only four months to another miscago man, this one who 321 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: was driving the wrong way on Moreland Roads super Bowl night, 322 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: blasted out of his mind and crashed into a squad 323 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: car injuring and a Burlet officer. By the way, I 324 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: have contacted the assistant district attorney in Waukershaw County who 325 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: handled the case, trying to find out what his sentencing 326 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: recommendation in that case was, to see whether or not 327 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: the judge simply followed a dopey recommendation from a dumbbell 328 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: assistant district attorney, or if the judge had a strong 329 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: recommendation for prison and overruled it just because he's a dumbass. 330 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: And I have not gotten cooperation or an answer at 331 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: this point from the Wakashaw County District Attorney's office. I 332 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: did post on X, by the way, earlier in the 333 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: week a side by side comparison of the two cases, 334 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: in which we talked about a Milwaukee County case in 335 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: which the circumstances were almost identical. Another wrong way crash, 336 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: this one in Milwaukee County, and it was on I 337 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: seven ninety four in which person was injured. That guy 338 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee got three years. I never read comments on 339 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 2: my thing on X, just like I don't read emails 340 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: about this. I just don't read them anyway. I did 341 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: have some people draw attention though, to me that people say, well, 342 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: that's probably because the Milwaukee guy is black. Actually, both 343 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 2: guys are white. The Walker show cases white. The Milwaukee 344 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: case was white, so it's not a racial thing where 345 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: they got tougher on the black eye. Secondly, people said, well, 346 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: what do I bet the one guy's got the stronger 347 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: criminal record. Actually, the waker Shaw County guy is a 348 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: second time Owy offender, the Milwaukee guy first time offender 349 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: for that, So none of that is implat all. Right, 350 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: now back to the soft on crime. There's this story 351 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: going on in Greenfield. It's been reported by Fox six 352 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: in I've heard rumblings on both sides on it. I 353 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: don't know what the deal is on police Chief Jay Johnson, 354 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: Greenfield's police chief has been suspended with pay for months. 355 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: They never said why, other than the allegations of missus. 356 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: Apparently he was given the opportunity to resign and he refused. 357 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: We now know what the allegation is. He had Greenfield 358 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, we should mention our radio station 359 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: is located in Greenfield, not that that's either here nor there. Anyway, 360 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: the police chief had a security camera installed on the 361 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: street facing his personal residence and it was installed by Greenfield. 362 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 2: They alleged that that's misconduct, and he's now facing criminal 363 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: charges for doing that. The city attorney advised against it. 364 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: The story on Fox six indicates that before he became 365 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: the chief, there were several personnel investigations on him, and 366 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: so what well, if he had all these problems as 367 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: a supervisor, why the Fire and Police commission make him 368 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: police chief? The fact matter is he's the police chief, 369 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: and anything prior to this I think shouldn't come into play, 370 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: because they did decide we want to read the chech. 371 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: The question now is okay, he tells his people to 372 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: put up a security camera facing his house. By the way, 373 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: he does not live in Greenfield most of our sub 374 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: in fact, hardly anybody has a residency rule anymore. So 375 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't live in the city of Greenfield. He lives 376 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: outside in another municipality. But it was Greenfield to put 377 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: up the security camera. No he didn't. Why'd you say, 378 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: Let's say, said Greenfield put the camera in? Yeah, And 379 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: if I didn't make that clear when I say Greenfield 380 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: put the camera and Greenfield paid for the camera, it 381 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: wasn't yet. And here's my thought on this. Should a 382 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: police chief have a security camera in his home? Does 383 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: he have a reason to feel threatened, et cetera. Who 384 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: knows they advised him not to do it. These cameras 385 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: aren't that expensive. I don't believe he could have put 386 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: in his own camera. However, I don't think that's a crime. 387 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a reason to fire somebody if you 388 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: think think it's that serious, or tell him we're going 389 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: to fire you if you don't take it down. Instead, 390 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: they got into this big to do and he refused 391 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: to resign from office over it. Because he refused to 392 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: resign from office, they're turning this into criminal behavior. With 393 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: all the threats that are going on to public officials 394 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: and so on. Have a police chief putting up a 395 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: camera on his own house, may or may not be 396 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: reasonable or not, and maybe he should have paid for 397 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: it or not. But I don't think it's criminal behavior. 398 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't think this is something that rises to the 399 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: level of a felony. For heaven's sakes, I think there's 400 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: obviously now a toxic relationship within the police department in 401 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: Greenfield where people in the fire Police Commission are maybe 402 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: the city or the mayor's office have it in for 403 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: the chief, and the chief thinks that they're trumping up 404 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: charges against him. My guess is that he is not 405 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 2: the only police chief in the state of Wisconsin who 406 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: has got in his community to put up a security 407 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: camera at his home. And again, whether it's good public 408 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: policy or not, I just don't think it's a crime. Furthermore, 409 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: it wasn't like he's around doing it. He put in 410 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: the it was put into the voucher. It was a 411 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: city record that it was paid for. It wasn't like 412 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: an attempt to embezzle and put in the funds to 413 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: do so. It was right there, done by city cruise 414 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: and so on. Paul said, it's like him taking a 415 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: WISN microphone and using it for some remote with his 416 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: band or something or another. Yes, I think they could 417 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: should yell at you for that, and if you don't 418 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: give the microphobic mc fer, I don't think you should 419 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: face to many charges for it. I just think it's 420 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: making a big Yeah. That's what's going on here is 421 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: that everybody hates each other here, so they're using this 422 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: as leverage and try to get him to resign. And 423 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: I don't think criminal justice SISIM should be used for that. 424 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: And I think this attorney's officer back off of this 425 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: and let the lawyers work the damn thing out next. 426 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: I am a complete opponent of declaring everything his historic 427 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: area or historic preservation status to stop somebody from doing 428 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: something to it, but I approve of it here. The 429 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: Convention Center Board, the Wisconsin Center District wants to tear 430 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: down the useless Miller Highlife Theater that's the old Milwaukee 431 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: Auditorium and the very useful UWM Panther Arena formerly the 432 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: Milwaukee Arena. The City of Milwaukee's Historic Preservation District is 433 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: moving toward giving them historic status, which should make it 434 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: hard to tear them down. As I've said, the Auditorium 435 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: should never have been renovated. It's hardly ever used for anything. 436 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: The Miller I left arena, tear it down. The problem is, 437 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: in order to put a hotel there, which is what 438 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: the Convention Center District wants, you have to tear down 439 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: both buildings. And the arena is used for lots of 440 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: things and it is a vital part of the community. 441 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Admirals. 442 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Wave. 443 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: Because I don't think you can have a professional soccer 444 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: team playing in a I don't even know where you 445 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: would find a place big enough for indoor soccer and 446 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: all the other events that go on there. UWM basketball 447 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: would have to go back to the Klatchy Center. That 448 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: arena's used about one hundred nights a year. Furthermore, the 449 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: people who use the arena almost entirely are people here 450 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: in southeast inn Wisconsin, whereas a hotel is used by 451 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: people by definition who aren't from here. Furthermore, I don't 452 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: think that there's a market for another one of these hotels. 453 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: They've got an empty lot across the street from the 454 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: convention center that they've been trying to develop into a 455 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: hotel for I'm telling you the truth here thirty years 456 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: and they haven't at a developer. So if the only 457 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: way we can save the arena is to get the 458 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: historic preservation status, even if it means the completely useless 459 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 2: Smugler High Life theater is saved in the process. Did 460 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: you follow all of that? Even if you didn't, so 461 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: what this is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the 462 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: Mark Belling Podcast. Let's talk about the election results. Some 463 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: are important, others are not. The governorships of New Jersey 464 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 2: and Virginia. The Democrats won both of them. People are 465 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: making a big deal out of this. I think that 466 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: this is kind of a zero the these are democratic states. 467 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Trump did not win Virginia and he did not win 468 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: New Jersey. So it stands the reason that these states, 469 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: both of which, by the way, New Jersey has a 470 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: democratic governor Virginia admittedly does not, so that is a flip. However, 471 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: the Virginia sick situation is rather unique. Glen Youngkin, the 472 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: governor of Virginia, is just Republican, very popular. His popularity 473 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: transcends party lines. He was term limited out. He's probably 474 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: going to be the only Republican governor of Virginia thirty 475 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: years on either side of it. So, I don't think 476 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: the fact that two democratic states chose democratic governors is significant. 477 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: Here's what is Mamdani As I told you he would 478 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: was elected mayor of New York. Mamdanni is a communist. 479 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: There is no point in not using the term. His 480 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: ideology as identical to the ideology of both American and 481 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: non American communists. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Whatever. 482 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: We need to understand that this is now the reality 483 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party in much of Democratic America. Now, 484 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: the disconnect in these stories is in New Jersey and Virginia, 485 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: the Democrats running were not running on communist principles. They 486 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: were running old style Democrats. But in New York Mamdani 487 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: didn't do anything to hide it. There should be no billionaires. 488 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: I guess that means he in the case of somebody 489 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: like Musk, he just confiscates nine hundred billion dollars or 490 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: whatever it is and just pocket I don't know, New 491 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: York is going to go to hell. Everything ever run 492 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: by communists has gone to hell, and I should put 493 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: in my asterisk. The Chinese version of communism is not communism. 494 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: Communism is an economic system. China practices their version of 495 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: state controlled capitalism. They simply still call themselves the Communist Party. 496 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 2: I'm referring to the communism of everywhere else, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, Venezuela, 497 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: et cetera. The fact that Mamdani had the support of 498 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: most officials in New York and was endorsed by many 499 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: Democrats in America. Rebecca Cook, Congress Congress congressional candidate in 500 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: western Wisconsin. She's the Republican who likely will win the 501 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: primary to run against Derek Van Ordon. She endorsed Mamdani. 502 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: This is who the Democrats now are. The Schumers and 503 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: Durbans and Baldwin's and the rest of them have ruled 504 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: over and ceded the party to the aocs and the 505 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: Mamdanis and the other communists. The great threat to America 506 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: isn't the Democrats win elections. It's that the Democrats have 507 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: become communists and if as a communist nation, we will 508 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: die as all other communist nations have. And again I 509 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: do not consider China to be traditionally a communist type nation. 510 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: One of the challenges for Republicans will be to connect 511 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: other Democrats to this ideology, because when they run in 512 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: a swing state, you know, communism isn't going to sell 513 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. It's going to sell with about thirty five 514 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: to forty percent of the voters in about eighty five 515 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: percent of the Democrats, but the swing voters in between 516 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: aren't so candidate for the runs of Wisconsin. As a memory, 517 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not Mandani. I'm not a communist. That 518 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: may work in governor elections. But now at the national level, 519 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: as you see via the government shutdown, it's AOC and 520 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: the radicals calling all of the shots. New York City 521 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: going to hell will be terrible for this country because 522 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: it's the most important city in our nation, but the 523 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: fact that it will go to hell will be instructive. 524 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: One of the things, though, that I think many on 525 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: the right don't understand, is a lot of physic. We'll 526 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: let them do it and then people will see. Except 527 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: they've done it in San Francisco, they've done it in Seattle, 528 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: they've done it in Portland, they've done it in Chicago, 529 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: and people don't see. They think that somehow they're dopey. 530 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: Local democrat isn't the same thing. It doesn't seem to 531 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: matter how many times radicalism fails. It doesn't sync in 532 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: to people that it's going to fail again. There's a 533 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: reason it fails, and we don't have time on today's 534 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: podcast to go into all of the reasons. Why. Read 535 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: distribution of wealth, confiscating wealth, taking away the profit motive, 536 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: don't putting anybody in jail, letting tens of thousands live 537 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: on the street, all the stuff Mandani is in favor 538 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: of rent control. Does it work? Other than to say, 539 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: I can easily prove that it doesn't work, look at 540 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: all the times it'sn't tried. It's never worked. Another election, 541 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: California passed this referendum to redistrict the state. It means 542 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: that five congressional districts think what California is outside of 543 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: the big population centers. There's a big chunk of Republican 544 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: territory in California. But because California's got so many people 545 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: fifty million, they don't win statewide elections. But pretty much 546 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: everything not on the coast in California is conservative. Bakersfield, 547 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: for example, rather conservative area. That's whe Kevin McCarthy, former 548 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: House speaker, that's what he represented, the areas toward Palm Springs, 549 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, some of the areas outside of San Diego. 550 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: And then you get into the what's the name of 551 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: the Wine country, san Joaquin Valley, that area outside the 552 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: city of Fresno, outside of Sacramento. Those cities are but 553 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: outside very republican. And and then the whole northern part 554 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: of California above San Francisco republican. So there are a 555 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 2: number of Republican congressional districts in the state. They voted 556 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: to withdraw the districts so that all of them get 557 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: enough Democrats popped in that the Democrats gained five House seats. 558 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: All right, they've done it, and the voters voted to 559 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: do it. And I suppose the voters are a republican 560 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: state can vote screw up art. For example, there are 561 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: any number of states that are overwhelmingly Republican that have 562 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: two or three Democratic seats, largely because there's a big 563 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 2: For instance, Tennessee. I don't know if there's a Democratic 564 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: Congress from Tennessee, but the city of Nashville is very democratic. Louisiana, 565 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: the city of New Orleans very very democratic. Kentucky extremely Republican, 566 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: but the city of Lexington and Louisville are very democratic. 567 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: Republicans can redraw the distincts in every one of those 568 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: states to chop up You could, for example, here in Wisconsin, 569 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: chop up the gwn Moore district in Milwaukee, flip it 570 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: to a couple of suburban disease. You can do this everywhere. 571 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: You notice that this all started when the Democrats lost 572 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: their cookies over Texas redrawing their lines to favor Republicans. 573 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 2: If the Democrats are going to do it with five 574 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: in California, every Republican state that has a state legislature 575 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: there should do the same damn thing. The alternative is 576 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: to lose. The media wants to portray the Democrats as 577 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: having the high ground here, but they've been spending forever 578 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: complaining about jurymandering and states like Wisconsin, So not the California, 579 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 2: but a NUSOMP was the guy that pushed this. Let's 580 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: jurymanner the States, so we get all the seats that 581 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: we can because we have to do it to stop Trump. 582 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: I want to pull out and jury pick out some 583 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: of the arguments made from the United States attorney and 584 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: the rebuttal to Komy's argument for dismissal. A lot of 585 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: words there. James Comey, former fa director, his attorney's a 586 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: filed emotion to dismissed the criminal charges against him. The government, 587 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: the US Department of Justice, is rebutting that and made 588 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: a number of points, and they produced several exhibits. I 589 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: want to go through a handful of them because they 590 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: demonstrate the strength of the government case and the overwhelming 591 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: evidence that Komi was corrupt while FBI director. Quoting Exhibit 592 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: thirteen includes damning evidence of then FBI Director Komy's handwritten 593 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: note on FBI director letterhead. I love this. You can't 594 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: get it much better than that. It's in his writing, 595 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: and it's on an FBI letterhead, evidencing of Komi's knowledge 596 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: of and even participation in the Russia collusion criminal conspiracy 597 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 2: against Trump. So he wrote stuff down. This is during 598 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: the Russia collusion thing that he was sending to associates 599 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 2: in the bureau. Exhibit five gets worse komy from his 600 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: burner Gmail and a burner Gmail is you create a 601 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: fake account that you can then delete the emails after 602 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: you send them. The problem, of course, is is that 603 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: when something's out there in Cyber's face, it's hard to 604 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: ever come down. His name was Reinhold at Nieber. Reinhold 605 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: Nieber was actually James Colby. Just shows you what a 606 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: dink Coleby is, what a stupid name to uses. Your 607 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: fake name better be like if you use this first 608 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: of all, all fake names, sounds stupid. You can't come 609 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 2: up with a fake name that doesn't sound stupid. Reinhold Neiber, 610 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: I mean me, it just sounds like he's some sort 611 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: of dignified pampas ass royalty or something or another. Anyway, 612 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: as Reinold Nieber, he sends out this email stating quote 613 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: to me, no need at this point it would be 614 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: shouting into the wind. Someday they will figure it out, 615 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 2: and as Jack and Ben point out, my decision will 616 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: be one a president elect Clinton will be very grateful 617 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: for This is referring to starting the Russia colluson investigation, 618 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: and he said, at some point, everybody's gonna find out 619 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: there's no Russia collusion, but I'm gonna be a hero 620 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: and Hillary's gonna appreciate it. This is again during the 621 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: campaign he assumed that Hillary was going to win. It's 622 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: when he green lit the Russia collusion investigation during the 623 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen campaign. He's got a note saying, yeah, I 624 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: look at it. I'll find out that he did it. 625 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: But Hillary is gonna be the president. She's gonna be happy, 626 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: and everybody's gonna be glad that I did it. Came 627 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: on next in Exhibit seven, in response to planning a 628 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: New York Times the election eve hit piece against Trump, 629 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: then FBI Director James Comy tells FBI Special government employee 630 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Richmond, quote, well done, my friend, who knew this 631 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: would be oh so a fun. Comy denied in congressional 632 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: testimony that he ever knew that anybody leaked to The 633 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: New York Times. We now have documentation in which he 634 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: praises a guy for leaking to The New York Times. 635 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: Dead to rights, they got him perjury. Exhibit ten shows 636 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: FBI Special government employed Daniel Richmond by the way, his 637 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: fake name on the emails is Michael Garcia. That's at 638 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: least a regular old fake name, right. Wonder what kind 639 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: of fake you see? You're not creative, what would your 640 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: fake name be. You'd be so stupid you use like 641 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: your first name, Paul Kramer. It's like, but I have 642 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: a radio name in Oshkosh. I called myself Mark Belson. 643 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: But that's because we didn't like having to have the name, 644 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: so we all took names that were almost the same 645 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: name that we had. Anyway, total aside, here is leaking 646 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: as an anonymous source to The New York Times reporter 647 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 2: Michael schmid On, behalf of then FBI Director James Comey. 648 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: Comy testified to the US Senate Judiciary Committee that he 649 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: never did this. All right, I am now going to 650 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: embark on a feudal attempt to avoid public confusion on something. 651 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: There are just some things in which you know, people 652 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: are going to be mixed up and it's going to 653 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: be impossible. Will to knock the story down. Here's the story, 654 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 2: and then I'm going to try to clarify the story. 655 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: Hughsar's House of Fine Diamonds is closing. It's in West 656 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: bed I'm just telling you it doesn't matter how many 657 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: times you mentioned, people are gonna think that Craig Hussar's 658 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 2: Fine Diamonds is closing. They're separate companies. They're just some 659 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: businesses in which everybody with that name seems to go 660 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 2: into the business. A moving company in Milwaukee with those 661 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: like two companies that have the same family last name, 662 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: but they're totally separate companies. They're different. There's a relationship, 663 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: but different families started the business. Craig Hussar's Fine Diamonds 664 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: is in Brookfield. It was started by his parents. This 665 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: one Hussar's House of Fine Diamonds in West Bend, it 666 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: was Michael Husaer and Mary Hussar and now the owners there. 667 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: It was started by Michael Huser's a different father, so 668 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: they both family businesses that have been forever. But it's 669 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 2: the West Bend Hughes Sire's, which is not connected to 670 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: the Brookfield Craig Hughsar that is closing. I'm just telling you, 671 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 2: Craig Usar is going to go through hell for the 672 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: next three years of people thinking that he's closed. They're 673 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: going out of business because people just think it's the 674 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 2: same business. And they probably confuse the two forever. One's 675 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: in Brookfield, the other ones in West bed I think 676 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: I've accomplished nothing with this. I think we just going 677 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: to be confused. Oh I heard Craig Ughsa is going 678 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: out of business. He's not. It's the other Husar's the 679 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: West Bend one. It's going out of business. This is 680 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. 681 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: I want to spend a moment discussing Dick Cheney. It's 682 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: very hard to summarize his life and legacy. If you're 683 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: not aware Cheney died at the age of eighty four. 684 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: The answer is, in my view, it's very mixed. People 685 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: have jumped all over Donald Trump. Why has any said it? 686 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: I know as of the timing of this podcast, he 687 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: hasn't said anything. Dick Chenney tried to destroy Donald Trump. 688 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: Trump's not gonna say anything good about Channey now that 689 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: he's dead. And I understand that when someone dies that 690 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: I think is despicable, I don't go dancing on his grave, 691 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: especially if it's I mean, it's an international tyrant, you know, 692 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein, that's different. But if there's somebody that I 693 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: didn't like locally and they die. Just keep my mouth shut. 694 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is is that Dick Cheney 695 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: was probably the strongest vice president in American history. He 696 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: ran foreign policy, directed the war in Iraq. And that's 697 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: not a knock on w. Bush. It's smart that a 698 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: president uses his vice president and his skills. And Chaney 699 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: showed stern backbone. He was revisedilled by the left. He 700 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 2: was hated as much in his day as Charlie Kirk 701 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: was hated in his Yet he stood his ground and 702 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: on many things, including the terror threat, he was right. 703 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: I think he was proven wrong about Iraq. Trump made 704 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: that case, and I think that the case that American 705 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 2: intervention in Iraq didn't accomplish anything is now in retrospect correct. 706 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: But it was my position, was Dick Cheney's position at 707 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: the time. The great flaw in the Cheney Bush doctrine 708 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: was the belief that you could turn any Muslim country 709 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: into a democracy. Then I wired that way, so all 710 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: you ended up with was Iraq under different control and 711 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: created a tremendous upheaval in the Middle East, which eventually 712 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: strengthened Iran. So Trump starts running and Trump, you know, 713 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: had this attitude forever, including when he started running for president. 714 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: He was crapping over all these wars started by the 715 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: Bush wing of the Republican Party. Cheney hated that, and 716 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: because he hated it and he had thin skin, he 717 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: turned on Trump. And I think this is the whole 718 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: roots of Liz Cheney hating him and the whole thing. 719 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: He can't stand the fact that Donald Trump was out 720 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: there giving his version of history that Bush and Cheney 721 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: were bad for America. And as a result, Dick Cheney 722 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 2: destroyed his legacy. He endorsed Kamala Harris for president. Kamala 723 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: Harris being elected president would have destroyed our nation, the 724 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: very nation that Dick Cheney spent most of his career defending. 725 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: Cheney became a demagogue in hyping January sixth. So his 726 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: legacy is mixed in many respects. He was heroic, but 727 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: he screwed up the last ten years of his life. 728 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: But back at the time, remember Bush and Cheney were 729 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: running after eight years of Clinton in which America's credibility 730 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: on the international stage was compromised. You know, we were 731 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: selling secrets to China. We were doing all those inside 732 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: deals with Charlie Tree and John Wong. The American military 733 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 2: was weakened, and Bush and Cheney responded to that, and 734 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 2: they also, aside from the war in Iraq, they responded 735 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: to the terror threat by defending our country. The war 736 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: in Afghanistan went on too long, but the initial go 737 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 2: knockout al Qaeda I think was justified. I think we 738 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: should have knocked out Olkeddy and then not worried about Afghanistan. 739 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: So there were certainly things that our praiseworthy and defensible 740 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: that Dick Cheney was involved in. But he's left a 741 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: sour taste in many of our mouths over the fact 742 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: that he allowed this attack on some of the positions 743 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 2: that he took to sell out our nation and support 744 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 2: people who wanted to destroy our country or were clearly 745 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 2: too incompetent to run our nation. I e. Kamala Harris 746 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: as for president, not saying something I don't find some 747 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 2: dignitary to show up and see seven terms of going 748 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 2: to the funeral, little the Cheneys to want them there. 749 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: So silence in this case is probably appropriate. By the way, 750 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 2: I don't think silence in my case is hardly ever appropriate. 751 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: If I was silent, I would have no career. If 752 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: I had to do a job in which I didn't 753 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: shoot off my big mouth. What would that be? There 754 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be much that would be out there 755 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: for me for those of you wondering. Our very good horse, 756 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 2: Special Wands sold at auction Monday night at the Facing 757 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 2: Tipton Sale in Kentucky. She got she went for one 758 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: point three million dollars. Remember I'm a partner. I don't 759 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: get the entire one point three million dollars. It was 760 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: read in them my rain jib. What I thought was fair, inappropriate, 761 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 2: and what it worth is the owners, new owners or Japanese. 762 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: They may continue to raise their centers straight to the 763 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: breeding shed, but turned out to be a great horse 764 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: for us and financial windfall as well. 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