1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: The Kway comings for a hotline. We'll bring on a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: very good front of the program. Nick Cosmi from The 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Athletic at Nick Cosmiter on Twitter. Nick, always great to 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: catch up with you, my friend. How's the bye week 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: treating you? 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: It's nice, you know, like actually running down a list 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: of things that I've probably been putting off for weeks. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: It's not months, so yeah, it makes my wife happy 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: and we're doing good. 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 4: So you're saying you have your own fourth quarter comeback. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like at a certain point, you just 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're down by thirty three or five. 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: You got to make a run at some point. So 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: that's what we're trying to do, all right. 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I really liked I mean, I always liked your articles. 16 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I reference him a lot here on the show, but 17 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: I like this one that you were sort of breaking. 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: Down the path to the one seed. 19 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: I'll start there and then I want to get to 20 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: your bon mix stuffcause I thought that was really good too. 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: But you said you thinking around thirteen and four would 22 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: would probably do the trick. And of course there's still 23 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: a lot to play here the Colts and they're playing 24 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: this week against the Chiefs. You got the Patriots, maybe 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: they're playing Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, and four 26 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: feels about right for you, does it? 27 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: It does? 28 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: You know, we use and there's obviously lots of different 29 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: stimulators you can use, but with ours at the Athletic 30 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of the projected. 31 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 5: Finish right now. They have the Patriots and there at. 32 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: Thirteen and four, of the Broncos in the two at 33 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: twelve and five. So I do think thirteen and four 34 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: kind of kind of makes sense, particularly because for me, 35 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: you look at that Patriots schedule and they really don't have. 36 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 5: A tough road ahead. 37 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: The one team they have left that has a winning 38 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: record right now is the Bills. 39 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: They get that game at home, obviously at Baltimore. The 40 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: way that the Ravens are playing right now, that'll be 41 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: a tough contest. 42 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: Those are the two toughest games. 43 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 5: Certainly, if you're a Broncos fan, you like that. 44 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is returning in this game. 45 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I just think. 46 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: You look at two teams that to this point are 47 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: nine and two. You know, four and two seems pretty 48 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: reasonable that one of these teams, you know, is kind 49 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: of going to get to that mark. 50 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the interesting thing here. 51 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 6: And I you know, I kind of penciled him mid 52 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 6: at twelve and five, so I thinfit's right in the 53 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 6: range going going forward. But I think the interesting thing 54 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 6: to me is if you look at this, say if 55 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 6: they do clinch this this number one, see if they 56 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 6: do get that. I mean, there's a scenario here where 57 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 6: you're resting guys, you know, in week eighteen, and you're 58 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 6: talking about like a. 59 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: Three week period there where. 60 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 6: You've got the potential for these guys to be down, 61 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: you know, kind. 62 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: Of getting healthy again. 63 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 6: I just not I haven't seen anything like this, and 64 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 6: then you know in Broncos country in quite some time. 65 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting, Like after the game on Sunday, 66 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: and I forget exactly what led into this, if you 67 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: guys might remember, but Sean Payton is essentially talking about, 68 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, one of his things. I think he was 69 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: just sort of talking about like doing what you need 70 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: to do for your team at any given time. And 71 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: he took some criticism for having rested. 72 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: Or arm having played some of his players, but he. 73 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: Felt like they need to maybe it was the. 74 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Other way around. 75 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: Either way, The idea was that like, you. 76 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Know, he's always had a pretty good read on what 77 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: his teams need, and so you're absolutely right then, like 78 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: that that could be, that could be the scenario, you know, 79 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: because let's say Baltimore perhaps has you know, I'm sorry, 80 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: New England has lost those two games that we're that 81 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: we're talking about, and maybe to that point, the Broncos 82 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: have only lost one. And you look at the tie 83 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: breakers if it's going to be them in New England, 84 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: you know, first is conference record, After that it's it's 85 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: a you know, record. 86 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: Of combined opponents. 87 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: It helps denver that New England has already lost to 88 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: the Raiders this year, you know, something that obviously the 89 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: Broncos haven't done. Still have one more game there on 90 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: December seventh against Las Vegas. 91 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: So there's a decent chance. 92 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: All that is to say that they you know, could 93 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: be in a good tiebreaker scenario with the Patriots. That's 94 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: why they're currently sitting ahead of them in the standings 95 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: right now, even though they have the same record. So yeah, 96 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that's out of the possibility. 97 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, it really is. 98 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: When you know that kind of the bye week is 99 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: to take some time to sort of zoom out and 100 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: look at. 101 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Where they are. 102 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us, really, you know, many 103 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: of us thought that that could be the position that 104 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: they're in, you know, kind of heading into that big 105 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: game in Washington, that they would be nine to two, 106 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: and we're having you know, serious substantive conversations about and 107 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: potentially earning a number one seat in the buy that 108 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: comes with it. 109 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: Sha with the cosmid or from the Athletic you know, 110 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: you you you kind of did a nice breakdown here 111 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: on bon Nicks and specifically how his team has rallied 112 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: around him. Is there something that bo Nicks could be 113 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: working on in the bye week? I know the Sean 114 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: gave them all week off, but if there was something 115 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: he could improve on for these final six games, what 116 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: would it be for you? 117 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 118 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: I would If it was me, I would have started with, hey, like, 119 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: let's cut up a lot of the good things that 120 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: we did in this game against a really good pass 121 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: rush and just have those kind of things sink into 122 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: sort of your psyche like we you know, you go 123 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: through and there had been time, there had not been 124 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: many times going through his film this year where there 125 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: it was just kind of the solid climb in the 126 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: pocket sometimes, but you know, they're run up in the 127 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: pocket to kind of create you know, an off platform 128 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: throw or whatever the case might be. 129 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: But just pure you know. 130 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: Climbing stepping up, it's sort of been few and far between, 131 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: and you could point to several examples of that in 132 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: the game against Kansas City. 133 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: And of course what that does is allows. 134 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: You to manipulate the pressure the way that you want to, 135 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: but it also keeps your eyes down the field in 136 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: a way that when you just kind of like run 137 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: up in the pocket, you're not always necessarily able to do. 138 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: And I thought his ability to. 139 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: Do that, you know, let guys extend routes, create some 140 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: separation you know later in the route. 141 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: Concept that would be kind of my thing. Mine would be. 142 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: A like kind of a go into this with a 143 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: real positive thing of hey, let's let's build on this, 144 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: because there was some some really good stuff that you know, 145 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: he added to to what he already does well, which 146 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: is the you know, the movement, the ability to kind 147 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: of you know, be a playmaker, especially late in games 148 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: like he often is, you. 149 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: Know, I e. 150 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: The throat, the twenty yard throat of Courtland Sutton on 151 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: third and fifteen pair of that, which is kind of 152 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: more sound. 153 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: Trust in the pocket. I thought there was a lot 154 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: to like, and so that would be me. 155 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: It would just be like, hey, let's let's kind of 156 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: build off what we did there on Sunday against the Chiefs, and. 157 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: Everybody was to focus on Bowl. But you know, he's 158 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 6: answered those questions for me. You know, he shows up 159 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: when when he needs to and and you know when 160 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 6: the bell rings and uh, and he shows up what 161 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: he needs to. I think the question here going forward, 162 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 6: as we look at this last third of the season 163 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: is what does this run game look like? Both it's 164 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: been the leads the NFL in passing attempts. The run 165 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 6: game is wildly ineffective, although you know, to be fair, 166 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: wasn't as as needed this past week. 167 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: You know RJ has just not gotten it as a 168 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: as a running back, yet your leil was marginally better. 169 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 6: What what are we going to do here when we're 170 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 6: getting into the data of December and you've got to 171 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 6: run the football. 172 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question because you know you're you're 173 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: you're somewhat short on options in terms of like, you know, 174 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: different levers that you can pull, Like you're you're going 175 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: to need r J. Harvey to you know, to get 176 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: more reps and hope that he builds on those enough 177 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: to where you are trusting him to be, you know, 178 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: a guy that becomes a major part of your game plan. 179 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: To your point, Ben, in games where you know, running 180 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: the football is going to be paramount, not just because 181 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: of a you know, controlling the clock type of way 182 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: or whatever that might be, but also because of the 183 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: weather and not wanting to put the ball on bo 184 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Nix's hands already times when it's you know, tendedgities there 185 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: Adam powerfield, So that's going to be critical. 186 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: And I know that this team has shown a lot 187 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: of acumen for. 188 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: Being able to finish close games, but man, you would 189 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: love if you're the Broncos going into these next two 190 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: against teams with losing records to be able to like 191 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: get out ahead and really just give the reps and 192 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: give the opportunity to really work RJ. Harvey, Angela mcloughfin 193 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: in a way that kind of gives you confidence that 194 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: they're starting to kind of build up a rhythm that 195 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: to me would be a big priority. 196 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: If I'm the Broncos, Like, yeah, you need to win 197 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: these games. 198 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: You need to continue to win these games because of 199 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: what you're playing for, right, Like, if you're trying to 200 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: be the number one seed, not a lot of margin 201 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: for error. But I think you do kind of have 202 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: to balance that with like, let's really get these guys 203 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: going so that we can figure out what they can 204 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: and can't do collectively as we build our run. 205 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: Game for the playoffs at Cosmo or joining us. 206 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Last couple for you Man. Also in your article he 207 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: talked about the secondary a little bit. Would you consider 208 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: some kind of rotation there at outside corner, especially when 209 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Pastor Tam comes back. Obviously he's starting on the opposite side, 210 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: But for Riley Moss in his position, do you go 211 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: rotation there or do you go back to what you were? 212 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great question. 213 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're probably going to look at 214 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: a couple of these things, and certainly with pat Down 215 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: they have they had kind of created a little bit 216 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: of an outside rotation. Obviously, it's it was large, it's 217 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: largely been Chris Abrams strain on the outside, but you 218 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: sprinkled John A. 219 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: Barren into that role. 220 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: A little bit as well. So maybe there are certain 221 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: packages that you like Chris Abrams Drain to be out 222 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: on the field a little bit more for you know, 223 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: obviously they they they're confident in Riley Moss. 224 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: You know, they'll point to the you know, the low. 225 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: Completion rate, his ability to just be competitive and to 226 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: get past things. But you know that they're going to 227 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 2: have to kind of really sort of evaluate almost from 228 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: a philosophical level of like, this is sort of what 229 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: this guy is in terms of right now. He's just 230 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: at a point where he's he's collecting a lot of 231 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: flags and a lot of big moments, and teams are 232 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: clearly hunting that as a way to get down the field. So, 233 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: you know, Riley Moss set himself after the game like 234 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of things that he 235 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: needs to do that they're going to work on in practice, 236 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, playing corner with boxing gloves on, 237 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: so he has to keep his keep his hands off, 238 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: you know, as they train for these upcoming games, like 239 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: they're going to need to kind of try. 240 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: All those things. 241 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 5: But I don't have a great answer for you, but I. 242 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Wouldn't surprise me if they do try to look at 243 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: that and say, you know, how can we get Chris 244 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: Abrams shran on the field as well, in part just 245 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: because he's he's. 246 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: Playing really well. That's the guy you want to continue 247 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: to have grow and develop. 248 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: You Know, we were talking with Dave Logan earlier. 249 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 6: We're talking about how, you know, Washington went to the NFC 250 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 6: Championship in their first year and they kind of fell 251 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 6: off in the second year, and a lot of that 252 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: had to do with the fact they need. 253 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: To reload on defense, and they went with a bunch 254 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: of old free agents. It didn't work out. 255 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 6: If Broncos have a defense, it's pre built, and it's 256 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 6: pre built to be sustained for a few years on 257 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 6: into whenever it is, you're going to end up having 258 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 6: to pay both. How much of a confidence boost do 259 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 6: you think it is overall for this unit to go 260 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 6: out there and do what they're doing without their best 261 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: player and without the are their logistics leader in the 262 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 6: green dot and you know, and and still coming away 263 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 6: with these defensive performances. 264 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of wild, honestly, And and 265 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: and that's what I think separates this team from the 266 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: unit last year. Obviously, Denver had a really good defense 267 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: last year led the league in sacks by a large margin, 268 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: set a franchise record could always get after the quarterback. 269 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: But but I just think that if they were lucky 270 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: last year to not have to have dealt with a lot. 271 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 3: Of the injuries that we are that we're seeing. 272 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: Creeping up, they they didn't rest on that as some 273 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: sort of thing where you're like, Oh, this is this 274 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: is how it's going to be every year, even though 275 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: you know Sean Payton says you kind of like to 276 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: you feel like you earn what you have injury wise. Look, 277 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: we all know that there's there's huge variance to injuries. 278 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: You're going to have them at some point, and right 279 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: now the Broncos have dealt with them a little bit 280 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: more than they did in either of Sean Payton's first 281 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: two years. They've also they're also more equipped than at 282 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: any other time to deal with those, and I think 283 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: that's been a really important part of the latter part 284 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: of this win streak. Like when you when tatz er 285 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: Tan win him down, if you said, hey, we're going 286 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: to be we're going to be three and oh before. 287 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: We get him back in Washington, you're. 288 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: Gonna feel great about that, if for no other reason 289 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: than like that's your best football player, and you found. 290 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: A way to win without him. And then yeah, the again, you. 291 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: Had guys that were starters last year, like Justin Surnad's now. 292 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: He's a fill in guy who plays at. 293 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: A starter level. That's not a luxury a lot of 294 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: teams have. And it's a testament to George Peyton and 295 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: Sean Payton in the way that they've built this roster. 296 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: So your guy, Robert Mays on the podcast today said 297 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: that if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, he's going 298 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: to shave his head. 299 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: Are you going to help with that? Since you covered 300 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: the Broncos. 301 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 5: I'd be happy to. 302 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: I Actually I was just cleaning some stuff off for 303 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: that honeyde list and found this old pair of like 304 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: clippers from COVID when I tried to cut my own hair, 305 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: and obviously I burned all evidence of that existing. 306 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 5: But yeah, so I've got. 307 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: The clippers not really used, so I'll be happy to 308 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: send Robert does or help them in whatever way I can, 309 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: you know, video it or whatever. 310 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: He needs those guys, And again, I think they do 311 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: a really good job. 312 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of National pods just kind 313 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: of get a sense of how different people are talking 314 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: about the Broncos outside of the market, and yeah, that 315 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: they have not been the biggest bo Nicks guys, and 316 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I can understand that from the pre draft process to 317 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: some of his inconsistencies, but there's they basically said that 318 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: they just don't believe this team has what it takes 319 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: to win a championship, and they took the Chiefs ahead 320 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: of them even that sitting at the nine seed, as 321 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: in more belief in their ability to win a championship, 322 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: which I guess I could kind of understand based on priors, 323 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: but also it's a little weird to me. 324 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: What do you think? 325 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's like there's one school of thought. 326 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: I think, like, you know as much as I'm sure 327 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: you guys and plenty of others have had fun with Nick, right, 328 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: like the one thing that he said that it's like, okay, 329 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: I see that where he said something to the effect 330 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: of like I'm gonna go ahead and just wait one 331 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: year until the Chiefs aren't in the Super Bowl or 332 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: you know, in the AFT Championship before I you know, 333 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: just kind of declare them, to declare them dead. And 334 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: I think you earned sort of some of the benefit 335 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: of the doubt, even though now they have this scrape just 336 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs. 337 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: I think the one thing and then. 338 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: Maybe this is like a bigger picture sort. 339 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: Of like critique on what we do sometimes you. 340 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: Know from a national media perspective. 341 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: But all of this is there's always this yearning to 342 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: put like a certain game into a larger. 343 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: Context like all the time. 344 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: And what that does is it presents just this. 345 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: Like week by week, like this is what we've decided 346 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: a person. 347 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: Is, this is how it's going well, ignoring the fact 348 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: that so much of this is an arc, like it 349 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: really is like a marathon, Like if you had done 350 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: this to John Elways for like this didn't exist back then, 351 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: but you'd be saying, like god, what a bum. 352 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: Like what what do you complete forty of his passes today? 353 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: Or whoever? 354 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 5: Is like you know, and so it just is this 355 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: kind of that's the machine. 356 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: It's just like everything has to be instead of just 357 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: evaluating the game or like you. 358 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,479 Speaker 5: Know, talking about this that there tends. 359 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: To be And it's not singling anybody. 360 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 5: I just I think we're all guilty of that at times. 361 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Of like wanting to put it into a larger context 362 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: or a larger. 363 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Conversation all the time instead of just so this was 364 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: this game he did this well, this is something that 365 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: he did do well, like he's going to have to 366 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: continue to grow and then you know, then you look 367 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: back on it later and just say, like, this is 368 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: sort of the trend that we see. You know, I 369 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: get it, you understand why it works that way. But 370 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: I think that's where you get some of that stuff, 371 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: is just like this is the trend, like we are 372 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: seeing this and when we created this like narrative and 373 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: so you know, now you're just sticking with it as 374 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: opposed to maybe just really kind of getting in there 375 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: and looking. 376 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: At it game by game. 377 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: As perfectly said my friend, always great. We will see 378 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: you out of practice next week, all right, Falla, thanks 379 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: for that. 380 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: Take care. 381 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate It's inn the cosmo from the Athletic Always great.