1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: We all know the NCUBLEA tournament is probably gonna get 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: screwed up when the NC DOUBLEA decides to expand it 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: way too big. I'd argue, too many mediocre teams, especially 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: from big conferences, are getting into the tournament as is, 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: and imagine what will be the case if they expand 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: to seventy two or seventy six, with the World Baseball 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Classic on the heels of Olympic Hockey getting tons of hype. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: We know where that's going next to, don't we. In fact, 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: I heard it being discussed already today, the World Baseball 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Classic instead of the All Star Game. That conversation is 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: already starting. So my question to you is, what's the 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: next good thing that sports is about to screw up 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: on its own? Because bigger is better? In fact, bigger 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: is better, that's rarely true. In fact, usually it's the 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: opposite eight three three four one two WSDX or four 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: one two three three three ninety nine thirty nine. Let's 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: start small and then go big picture. Let's start with 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the World Baseball Class conversation replacing the All Star Game. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to see it because I think actually 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: the All Star Game in baseball is probably the only 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: one that still gets it right to some degree or another. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: This is fun, This is intriguing, this is enticing. It's 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: great in March. I don't know how much better it's 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: really gonna be in July. There are some who are 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: saying it would be better if you put the World 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic in the middle of the season, shut it 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: down for two weeks like we saw with the NHL 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and the Olympics, because everybody is up to speed, everybody 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: is in mid season form. But then you have guys 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: who are already hurt by then, as opposed to guys 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: who coming off a full off season recovery. You have 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: guys who you're worried about pitch counts mid season. You 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: have teams that are surprisingly in pennant races that they're pitchers. Like, 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: for instance, what if the Pirates stumble into a wildcard 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: race and we're looking at Bubba Chandler's pitch count and 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: he's having a great year. Do you want Bubba to 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: be the World Baseball Classic team when you're worried about 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: his pitch count coming up in October and we're granually 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: looking at things like you know, pulling Paul schemes when 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: he's got a no hitter going, as we've seen before, 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily gonna be a better option 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: than pitch counting them right now in March for different reasons. 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't think sticking this in the middle of the 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: season is going to be better. And if you do that, 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: then what are we talking about here starting those seasons 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: on Saint Patrick's Day? Ending them on Thanksgiving? Like, what 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: are we talking about here? With the schedule in Major 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: League Baseball, which to my point is too long already? 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: You know, I actually think that of the sports all 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: star games, the only one that comes close to getting 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: it right is Baseball. Unless you shut it down for 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: two weeks, you really can't do this World Baseball Classic 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: thing condensed into five days like the All Star Game is. 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have a longer break. And if 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you space it out and do it only once every 56 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: few years, then you might not get the best regular 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: repeating rosters as it is anyway, based on health, arm injuries, 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: for pictures, etc. You get the point. I'd leave it alone. 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: It's going fine as it is. I think people feel 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: like if they did it in a different time on 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: the calendar, on a grander stage where everybody's eyes are 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: fully on baseball, that it would be a much better product. 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that it will be. The pictures 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: are the only wild cards anyway. You know, when you 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: get the big name starters out there, like Schemes and Schooble, 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that's great, But quite frankly, the lineups are what's drawing 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: the most interest right now, like the Dominican lineup last night, 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: the American lineup as it is, the hitters on the 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Japanese team, et cetera. So I don't think you need 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: to change the World Baseball Classic to make it bigger 71 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and better, because once you start to make it bigger, 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it's starts to be less appealing. It's fine 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: for what it is, and the extra hype, the extra 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: pepper we're putting on it to make it sound like 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: it's more grandiose than what it is, it's kind of 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: making me roll my eyes. In the first place. It's 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: a fun warm up to a Major League baseball season. 78 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be the culmination of the season. 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: And we keep saying this about the Olympics. In hockey, 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a post Olympic hangover that 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: exists when you jump into penns Canucks in the middle 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: of the season as opposed to seeing what you saw 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: between the US and Canada for the gold medal game. Now, 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: there are a couple other things that I think are 85 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: on the precipice of going in that direction in sports 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: right now. In the NFL, the eighteen game season, eighteen's 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: too many. I'd frankly rather have them roll it back 88 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: to sixteen before they get it to eighteen. The importance 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: and sanctity of the regular season gets diluted more and 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: more every time they do this. Every time they expand 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: the schedule, the injury risks two players approaching the playoffs 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: is more on the line as you see these players 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: go through wear and tear of their injuries. Walk it 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: back to sixteen before you make it eighteen, I say, 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: but that's not gonna happen. I don't want to see 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and the NHL expand. The leagues are 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: too big as it is. But you keep hearing they're 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna do that. There are enough markets in baseball and 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: in hockey for that matter, where the teams kind of 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: feel irrelevant in their home market. Let alone nationally or 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: internationally as it is, expansion is not necessary in either 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: one of those sports. Look at the goalies who are 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: anonymous in the NHL. What if you had two more 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: teams with four more goalies. In the NHL, starting pitching 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: is getting minimized, Like the Schemes and Schoobls of the 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: world stand out so much more because teams are minimizing 107 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: the impact of the starting pitcher, and those guys are 108 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: canonized because they're so much different than everybody else. Over expansion, 109 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I think is already part of the reason why you're 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: dealing with some of this in Major Lee baseball in 111 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the NHL, and we're hearing potentially about those two sports 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: putting more teams in back to the NFL further protection 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. You know they're gonna do that. When people say, oh, 114 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: why don't you put flags on them, I don't know 115 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: that they're kidding. I don't know that they're exaggerating. I 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: don't know that that's not coming in ten years. Boy, 117 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the NFL sure likes to promote flag football, doesn't it. 118 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: They sure like to protect quarterbacks, don't they. I wouldn't 119 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: be shocked if you saw that before We're all dead 120 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: if they try to protect the quarterbacks to that degree. 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: And here's something that I'm really worried about that they 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: screw up and they can't. And this is the biggest 123 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: one potentially for what we're dealing with. And this is 124 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: really in terms of clear and present in front of us. 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Whatever the cost system of baseball is coming out of 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: the labor stopage. You know they're gonna screw that up, right, 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: You can be sure, because we all know you can't 128 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: have a cap without a floor. What I'm worried about 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: is that we somehow walk away with this thing where 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: you have a floor but no cap. You can have 131 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a soft cap, you can have something that looks like 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: a prohibitive luxury tax, but nothing's been prohibitive so far. 133 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: You know. The great irony of where we are with 134 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the baseball cost structure is the big market teams right now, 135 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: like the Dodgers for instance, Like the Dodgers aren't spending 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: everybody so much that the next tier of big market 137 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: teams like the Yankees, the Red Sox, I don't know 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: else you want to throw in there, the Cubs, the Giants, whoever, 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: they suddenly want a cap now because they don't want 140 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: to be outspent by the Dodgers. The Padres, who have 141 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: spent some that are close to that market, they don't 142 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: want to be outspent by the Dodgers. So they want 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: to see a cap. And now, all of a sudden, 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the cities where the fans are screaming for a cap 145 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, their own don't want one because 146 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: they don't want to spend to the floor. So like 147 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the decision makers in baseball, the players union, the agents, 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the owners, there is so much onus. There is so 149 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: much responsibility on their plate right now. And I have 150 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: no faith that when we walk out of this to 151 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: start the twenty twenty eight season, if twenty twenty seven 152 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: is lost, that we're going to be all that much 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: better off than where we are right now getting ready 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. I mean, I'm sitting here. I 155 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: would love to see a salary cap. I've been talking 156 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: about it forever, I've been writing about it, forever. Get 157 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: it in place. Make the pirates have to get up 158 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: for a floor. I'm all about that. I agree with 159 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the concept. If you can't have a cap without a floor, 160 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: of course, you can't make the pirates have to pay, 161 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: but let's not make the cap so high that it 162 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter and they're not competitive anyway. It's easy 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: to say, if you're going to be a part of 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, you have to spend X number of dollars. 165 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: But this notion that you have to have the cap 166 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: without a floor, I bet you Baseball figures out a 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: way to get around that little detail. I bet you 168 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: it's not as cut and dry as some people are 169 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: suggesting the other way. Yeah, sure, if they put a 170 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: cap in, gotta spend to a floor. I won't be 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: stunned if there's something a little bit softer than what 172 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: you're expecting for a hard cap. It ain't gonna be 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: like hockey. It's not even gonna be like football. It 174 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: might be more like the NBA, where they seem to 175 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: maneuve around that all the time easily. I don't know 176 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: how they'll do it, but they'll figure out a way 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: to do it. It's not gonna help the pirates as 178 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: much as you think. The only way it'll help the pirates, 179 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: and the product that you're seeing is they'll at least 180 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: be forced to spend enough to be competitive with everybody else. 181 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: That's as much as it will help. And then I 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: don't know if this owner is gonna go along with that. 183 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Four one two three three three wxdx or eight three 184 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: three four one two ninety nine thirty nine. What are 185 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: the things in sports right now that you're worried that 186 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna scre I just gave you a bunch, You 187 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: give me yours. You can also tell me some things 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: in sports that you think need to be changed. Along 189 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: those lines, we'll do calls in the fifteens. We come 190 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: back wells to get to some tweets, some emails eight 191 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: three three four nine thirty nine. This is the Mark 192 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: Maddin Show, Tim Bens and for Mark on one to 193 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: five nine, the X listen. 194 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: You've always been in love with me, and this is 195 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: just your moment of clarity. I don't think, oh. 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I know some the X at one oh five nine 197 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: calls in the fifteens, let's get right to them. If 198 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: you're just tuning in, we were kicking around some things 199 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: that we're worried about sports ruining while they're just fine. 200 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: I think the World Baseball Classic is just find some 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: of this talk about, Hey, how come they don't just 202 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: do this instead of the All Star Game. No, don't 203 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: need that. Hey, NCAA tournament's great, Let's make it seventy 204 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: six teams or seventy two teams instead of sixty eight. No, 205 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: it's fine the way it is. Leave it alone. We 206 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: were kicking around some ideas that we might have as well, 207 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: for things that we think could be fixed or can 208 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: be made better as well. In sports, there's plenty of 209 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: those eight three, three, four, one, two, ninety nine, thirty nine. 210 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike. He got in first, talking about 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the salary cap and floor in baseball. Mike, you're on 212 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: one oh five nine the X. 213 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Hi Tim, Good to hear you on the radio again. 214 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: How are you hey? 215 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: Listen, I think they should have a salary cap in 216 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: a floor only because if you're one of these other. 217 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: Owners that was supplying all this revenue sharing to the powers. 218 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: Don't you think at some point they're. 219 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 2: Gonna say, hey, nutting like they should have said to McClatchy, 220 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: put some product on your field. 221 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: You know, one of the best baseball stadiums in the country. 222 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: You got a loyal fan base, and look what you 223 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: got out there, the lowest payroll in that team. 224 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: It stinks, well, absolutely they should. I'm one hundred percent 225 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: in favor of it. I'm just forewarning that we might 226 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: walk away from whatever labor dispute takes place, and we 227 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: could see a system where there is a floor in 228 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: place that makes the Pirates and some of the lesser 229 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: revenue teams pay up to a certain mount and whatever 230 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: cap is on it, whether they call it that or not, 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: is so soft and maneuverable that it's not really a 232 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: cap as it is. And honestly, you know what, if 233 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: that's the case, I'm not going to be all that 234 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: off put because I'm so used to the existence of 235 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: the Pirates not being able to spend that if they 236 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: are at least required to spend up to a certain level, 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: and they have an owner that might even take over 238 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: for Nutting if he doesn't want to do that, then fine, 239 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll take it, because if they have to spend to 240 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: a certain level, then they will, and that'll force them 241 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more competitive. 242 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: In the bottom line, it'll put better baseball here in Pittsburgh, 243 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: which we deserve. 244 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, Let's go to Kurt now in Cannonsburg. Kurt, 245 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: you're on one oh five to nine, the. 246 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: X, Hey dam, how you doing good? I think the 247 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: biggest violator, to be honest with you, is that the 248 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: PGA Tour. When you think about it, they start in January, 249 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 4: they have their championship, which is the FedEx Championship. I 250 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: think the season might be over, but then they go 251 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: to the wrap around season. I think they played golf 252 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: fifty two weeks a year. In the old days, it 253 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: used to be the Skins game with Nicholas Trevino and Palmer, 254 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: the Sharks Shootout. And when you think about it, they're 255 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: playing golf from Sunday to Sunday, and they're traveling. 256 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: I work for RBC. 257 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 4: We do the Hilton Head thing and the Canadian Open, 258 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: and I tell you the product has really gone downhill 259 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: with the Live Tour and these multiple sometimes multiple tournaments, 260 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 4: two different tournaments on the same weekend. 261 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: Okay, some golf talk to me is Greek because I'm 262 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: not a golfer. But you know, I will defer to 263 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: your opinion on that front. I'll sort of throw it 264 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: back at you with a question. How do you feel 265 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: about major to major? How do you feel about that 266 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: length of time, that window for viewing. 267 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: I think it's spectacular. You know, they do it about 268 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: once a month. They move the PGA Tour, the pg 269 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: Championship up. That used to be in the fall. But 270 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: it is something to look forward to. I mean, obviously 271 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: the Master starts it off and that's April, and then 272 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 4: they go May, June, and July. So it's pretty spectacular. 273 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: I enjoy that, but I just think at some point 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: in time, you don't need to play twelve months a year. 275 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: Give them a October through January off. 276 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Kurt, thanks to call again. Four one two 277 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: three three three WXDX. Look the golf part of it, 278 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of a more of a leaping 279 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: point to the other seasons that I brought. The one 280 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't that I'd like to get some feedback 281 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: on is college football, because Tom and I talked about 282 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: this in the first hour and really didn't delve into 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: it too much. And when I reset this topic of conversation, 284 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: I probably should have brought the college football talk a 285 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: little bit more too, because I was all for expanding 286 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: the college football postseason when it used to be a 287 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: pretty basic eleven or twelve game season for just about 288 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: everybody in football. And then you got to the playoff. 289 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: We had this ground swell back then for get rid 290 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: of the BCS or whatever version of the BCS it 291 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: was called at the time. Just get to an eight 292 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: team playoff and go from there and made a lot 293 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: of sense. One thing that I didn't anticipate now that 294 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: we've built in conference championship games. You gotta have the 295 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: conference championship games because the conferences are so damn big, 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: So you gotta have the conference championship games, and then 297 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: you get to twelve with buys for the top four. 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: How much the all encompassing goliath that is the NFL, 299 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: especially that time of the year where it's cresting in 300 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: playoff time or just about for this NFL season too, 301 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: how much that swallowed up the college football what I 302 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: thought could have been mania for a smaller version of 303 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: March madness, where you just start at the elite eight 304 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: of college football, like the length of the college football season. 305 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: To kind of get to this guy's point, the best 306 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: part your time sh sharing too much with the NFL, 307 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: and the NFL just doesn't care anymore about making room 308 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: for college football. It's its free minor league system, but 309 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't really have to share the eyeballs is obviously 310 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the view of the NFL. They've gotten more and more 311 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: down that path, and I think it has muted somewhat 312 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: the interest and the breadth at which we could get 313 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: people sucked into the college football playoff. You have to 314 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: have times almost be reminded who was playing what day, 315 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: and what bowl was associated with, which semifinal, and things 316 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: of that sort. I didn't anticipate that to be the case, 317 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: quite honestly. I thought it could stand up enough on 318 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: its own, but because of how it has been pushed 319 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: deep into the most important part in the mania induced angle, 320 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: that is the NFL at that time on the calendar, 321 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: that's a tough putt for anything else that's football to create, 322 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: even something that is as deserved as what I think 323 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: is really good football at the end of the season 324 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: between the best teams. Once you served through the first 325 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: few rounds of the playoffs A three, three, four one 326 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: two ninety nine, thirty nine or tweet me at Tim 327 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Benz PGH, Derek says, we can get some March madness talk. Well, 328 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: I was trying to talk about the tournament. You can 329 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: call about the tournament. I talked about expanding the brackets. 330 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about the Miami of Ohio thing, 331 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I will do that because Jay Billis on ESPN sort 332 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: of made the point the argument that they were trying 333 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: to reach a compromise by putting Miami of Ohio in 334 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: as a play in team as a first four team, 335 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: and he didn't like the compromise either put them in 336 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: the main bracket or not. Was his point. Well, I 337 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: don't know how Miami of Ohio is any different than 338 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: any other at large team if that's the case. If 339 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: you're saying that, then you're saying that there's something different 340 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: about their Cinderella status and for that they should almost 341 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: be treated like they won their conference, which they didn't. 342 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the best argument for that and putting them 343 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: in the bracket proper is well, obviously Gakrn's a pretty 344 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: good team because he made them twelve, where you could 345 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: have made them a thirteen or a fourteen. You made 346 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: them at twelve. So maybe the conference is better than 347 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: what you're giving a credit for. That was sort of 348 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: my first thought when I heard him say that, And 349 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't think a compromise necessarily has to be made 350 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: for Miami of Ohio. I felt like they were good 351 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: enough to get in based on the fact that they've 352 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: won every regular season game that they had in a 353 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: conference that is recognized to get an automatic bid. If 354 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: you do that, you should be in the postseason. As 355 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, you should get in, not necessarily automatically. 356 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: But if I'm voting, if I'm lobbying, I'm lobbying for 357 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: Miami to be in. But I don't think they then 358 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: deserve preferential treatment and they have to go right into 359 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the bracket as like an eleven or something like that. 360 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with them being in the 361 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: play in. Like I said before, part of these first 362 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: four games, some of the duty that should be implemented 363 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: from the NCAA to make those better is to make 364 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: them more attractive. And now you've got sort of your 365 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: David versus Golives scenario with an ACC team playing against them. 366 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: They're playing at home. It's gonna be a wild home 367 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: court advantage, it's gonna be good viewing. There's more reason 368 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: than ever to watch a game in the first four 369 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: because of that. That's good planning, that's good theater. Like 370 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with them reaching this compromise 371 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: such as it is, but you shouldn't have to call 372 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: it that. You shouldn't have to refer to it as such. 373 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Do they deserve to get in? Yeah? Are they a 374 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: small conference team that didn't win their tournament? Okay, make 375 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: them playing Dayton then, And if you asked a lot 376 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: of people at Miami right now, I don't think they're 377 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: all that upset about having an NCAA tournament game in 378 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: their backyard and a chance to beat SMU to advance. 379 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: That's not a bad trade off. Phil Bork Next one 380 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: oh five nine The X. 381 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: Tonight's the Pens hit the ice against the Avalanche. Game 382 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: time is nine to thirty. 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Borkie 394 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: joining us in advance of the game between the Penns 395 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: and the Abs tonight at nine point thirty here on 396 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the X Wednesday, Carolina on the road for the second 397 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: time on this road trip. Seven pm. Borky, let's start 398 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: right there, Abs and Hurricanes. Are the Pens about to 399 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: play the two conference champions that will meet in the final. 400 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Do you think what's your opinion on those two teams 401 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: right now atop the two conferences? 402 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon, Tim, Good to be on with you. 403 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: We'll start with the tough ones first, okay, Well is 404 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: the West. 405 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: I have a tough. 406 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: Time anybody beating the Colorado Avalanche in the Western Conference 407 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: in a seven game series. Of course, any of my 408 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: comments here have an Asterek. As long as these teams 409 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: stay healthy. The whole was absolutely loaded. They got two 410 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: really good goaltenders. You know, they have definitely have a 411 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: home ice advantage against a lot of teams, and they're 412 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: a team that you know, one not that long ago, 413 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: what four years ago? They won the Stanley Cup and 414 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: a lot of the pieces are still there. As far 415 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: as the Carolina Hurricanes, I'm gonna say no, they will 416 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: not be the Eastern Conference champs. I wouldn't be shocked 417 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: if they get there, obviously, but I look at Buffalo 418 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: and the wagon that they are. I look at Tampa 419 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Bay and how good they can be in a seven 420 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: game series. I just I like Carolina, I don't trust 421 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: their goaltending. 422 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of that, and I know the 423 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Penguins right now are going through a run where it's 424 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: nine of ten games and none of those opponents in 425 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: that stretch are all currently in a playoff slot. How 426 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: do you think they're handling themselves with a big chunk 427 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: of those games coming without if Guinea Malkin and still 428 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: to this point, Sidney Crosby, I. 429 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: Think it's been pretty incredible, to be quite franky, in 430 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: the way the Penguins have not allowed that water line 431 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: to go above their bottom lip and stay afloat right 432 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: and stay up in that second spot. It's really remarkable 433 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: when you think about it, without stating without Gino and 434 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: then Brazos out, we're gonna get Brazo back, and now 435 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: we found out that resots out. So it's been a 436 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: bit of a carousel. If you were in of players 437 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: hopping on and hopping off the injury list, but they 438 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: keep on keeping on it and even you look at 439 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: most recently going down two goals or more, which seems 440 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: to be a common theme now and still be able 441 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: to scratch and call your way to find points. That's 442 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: where they're at right now. They're just doing everything they 443 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: possibly can to just at least get one point out 444 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: of a game until they can get healthy, get the 445 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: big boys back. And you know, it feels like a 446 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: long time since since we've seen the Penguins as a 447 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: healthy group. And I said this on the air last game, 448 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: that the Penguins have depth. They probably have more depth 449 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: than they've had and I can remember, but they don't 450 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: have players that can replace sid or Gino or even Brazoh, 451 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, and Lazatte, he's almost a player that's any 452 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: organization would have a tough time taking a player from 453 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: their minor league affiliate and plugging him in and saying 454 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: can you do some of the things that Blake Glazatte 455 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: does because he's such a unique player. But with all 456 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: that being said, the opponent, the travel, the condemned schedule, 457 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: the injuries and everything else, but the Penguins will still 458 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: be where they are in the playoffs in the Metropolitan 459 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: Division is nothing less than remarkable. 460 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned the second spot and again, Phil Borg joining 461 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: us right now on one of five to nine the 462 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: X you're home for the Pittsburgh Penguins. You mentioned the 463 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: second spot. They're tired right now with the Islander's two 464 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: points behind them the Blue Jackets. I posed this question 465 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I posed it on the air, and actually, 466 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: I think I've gotten pretty measured, self reflective response. Phil. 467 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: People seem to have thought this out pretty well, in 468 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: my opinion. But if you had to bet right now, 469 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: which one of those three Metro teams finishes out of 470 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: the division's top three automatic playoff qualifying spots. 471 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: I think it's Columbus because I think they've just been 472 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: playing so far over their head, no disrespect at all, 473 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: and the record they have since they're new, they've changed 474 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: coaches and Rick Bonus has come in. They're fifteen to 475 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: two and four with Rick Bonus. That's just mind boggling. 476 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: It's a good team. They've got some good pieces there, 477 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: but again, they've been playing so far over their head. 478 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: You feel like there's going to be a stumble and 479 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: if it can be just a one week stumble of 480 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: three games that might be insurmountable this time of year. 481 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: A lot of times when you get five or six 482 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: points back tim of a wildcut spot, and that's what 483 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: the league loves. The league loves the teams can sell 484 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: hope to their market. But realistically it's very rare. You 485 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: have maybe one team every couple of years overcome five 486 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: or six points. It doesn't sound like much, but it's 487 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: a lot. This time of year, it's very, very difficult, 488 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: and for them to be playing really almost like Game 489 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: seven playoff hockey fince Rick Bonus took over. You have 490 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: a feeling like every team stumbles a bit, and you 491 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: feel like the way their team is built that there 492 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: could be a stumble coming their way. 493 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you, Phil, and frankly most people 494 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: out there agree with you too, because the Blue Jackets 495 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: are winning that poll at forty four percent. But I 496 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: will give credit to people who are being self reflective 497 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: about this, and maybe this is the Sid Crosby factor 498 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: of not having an idea of when Sid is coming back. 499 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: The Penguins are next to thirty six percent, and most 500 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: people think the Islanders are pretty secure at only eighteen percent, 501 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: and I tend to agree with that. And I say 502 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: that because what one, like we just mentioned we're not 503 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: sure about Sid's return. The second part of that is 504 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: I just feel like the Islanders are who they are, 505 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: Like there's there's less variance about why they are, where 506 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: they are and where they're going the last handful of 507 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: games here, as opposed to Penguins who seem to be 508 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: so impacted right now about when their stars are coming 509 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: back and how they will play once they return. 510 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about the Islanders I didn't mention 511 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: them is are they just gonna ride the Holy but 512 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Jesus out of Ilias Sarolea. 513 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: That's the other thing too. Yeah, the goaltending right seems 514 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: to be the most secure there, you would think. 515 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Right right, But you gotta just play him every game, tim, Yeah, 516 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: because David Rickett Riddick is a backup goaltender and he's 517 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: not been good. And so when you get down to 518 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: these short strokes and you get fifteen games or under 519 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: pretty much where every team is right now, somewhere at sixteen, 520 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: somewhere at seventeen. But we're gonna blink at the end 521 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: of the week, and you know you're gonna be down 522 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: to a dozen games left, because right now, the way 523 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: it sits for the Penguins, they have sixteen games left 524 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: and they're going to play those sixteen games in exactly 525 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: thirty days. And it goes fast. Man, this time of year, 526 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: it goes fast. You blink, because you're playing every other day. 527 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: You blink, You'll be from sixteen to twelve before you 528 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: know it. And so why I say that is because 529 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: for the New York calenders again, they're gonna have to 530 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: be as air tight as they've ever been because they 531 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: rely so much on Ilias Serrokan to not only play 532 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: every game, not only to stay healthy, but also to 533 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: bail them out over and over and over again. They're 534 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: a good hockey team. Again, no disrespect at all. They 535 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: are a good hockey team, and they play the Penguins top. 536 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: But I do watch them, and they are not that 537 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: air type. They're not that perfect. They have as many 538 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: wars as anybody else in that position, and they rely 539 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: on their goaltender more than most. 540 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: So the variables. Then Brky come into play with the Penguins, 541 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: A and B. Malkin and Crosby. Gino comes back. Let's 542 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: talk about him first before we get to sid We've 543 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: all beaten him up for taking the penalty, for getting 544 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: the suspension, We've done that, But now he's back, I 545 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: just want to see him score again. I mean, like, 546 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: it's been ten ten of his own games fifteen overall 547 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: that he hasn't had a goal, and he's had just 548 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: one assist in his last four before the suspension. So yeah, 549 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: welcome back to You know, it's not just about keeping 550 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: your head cool, but put the puck in the net 551 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: a little bit too. 552 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: I can't disagree with anything you said. You're right, this 553 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: is this is going to be an interesting thirty days 554 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: at least regular season wise, and hopefully longer than that. 555 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: For if Kenny Malkin, because you want to where its 556 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: heads at right. You wonder how much he feels like 557 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: he let his teammates down by taking that five game 558 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: suspension with Sidney Crosby out of the lineup. I'm not 559 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: going to go on and on about it because it's 560 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: in the rear view mirror. We don't have time to, 561 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, bast Geno for what he did. But in 562 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: the meantime, you're back in tonight, and what we expect 563 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: you to do is forget about the contract. Forget about 564 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: all those logation negotiations, forget about the what if am 565 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I going to be a Penguin again next year? We 566 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: don't care about that right now, Gino, all we care 567 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: about is use, scoring goals and giving us the best 568 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: version of the Guinea Malkin. That's it, end of story. 569 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: If you can't do that, then you're basically telling Kyle Dubis, 570 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to be here. I'm not focused enough. 571 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to go all in and be the 572 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: guy you need me to be. He's telling Dubis what 573 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: he wants him to do for next season. So that's 574 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: what makes this thirty days to get the Penguins into 575 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs, and Gino needs to be a major factor 576 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: why we get in, and part of that is scoring goals. 577 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Now, sid, what are you seeing on the road when 578 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: he does skate Porky? How close do you think he is? 579 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 2: I'm going to bite the inside of my cheek as 580 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: I answer this question so I can choose my words carefully. 581 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: He can, He's flying, he looks unbelievable. And so every 582 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: day at the morning skate I sit there with Josh 583 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: gets up and we're like, what do. 584 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: You think, what do you think, Joshi boy, what do 585 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: you think? 586 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: Tonight to night? We're gonna get Sid back? And he 587 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: he goes out there and he's flying right. 588 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: We're like, look at it, You're. 589 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: Like look at it. 590 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: He looks not believable. And then they go to do 591 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: line rushes and Sid just stands at center ice and 592 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: so listen, nobody knows Sidney Crossey's body better than Sidney Crosby. 593 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: He is a Ferrari and he's also the mechanic of 594 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: the Ferrari. So we have to Trustid that he's doing 595 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: the right thing. And because there's a lot of trust 596 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: there right between doctor if the doctor saying, listen, you're 597 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, you're stable, You're you're good, You're you're fine, 598 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: but you know, we want to make sure you're one 599 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: hundred percent. And I think again, and that's why I'm 600 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: biting me inside of my cheek. I don't want to 601 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: put words into Sid's mouth here, but you kind of 602 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: get that ceiling that Sid wants to make. And this 603 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: is Sid really being unselfish making sure that he's one 604 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: hundred percent and knowing that I can't come back at 605 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: ninety I can't come back at ninety five percent because 606 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to do to what is I don't 607 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: want to come back, and then something, you know, the 608 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: one step forward, two steps back to him come back. 609 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: Everybody's happy I'm back. And then because I wasn't one 610 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: hundred percent, because that little voice inside me said no, 611 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: just wait another game, just wait another game. And he 612 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: when he comes back, I think he wants to be 613 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: no one hundred percent, no doubt, not a slipper of 614 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: doubt in his mind that when he's back, he's all 615 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: in and he can go one hundred percent to help 616 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: the Penguins get into the playoffs. And I get that 617 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: feeling that he's a little worried. I'm not one hundred 618 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: percent and I don't want to go out there and 619 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: have something happen. And then I say, damn it. Why 620 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: didn't I listen to that voice and just wait one 621 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: more game until I was one hundred percent. Now I'm 622 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: out another week, and I've hurt my hockey. 623 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: Team, all right, Borky a couple of quick things about 624 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: Colorado before I let's just scoot here. So at ninety 625 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: seven points, best in hot plus eighty four goal differential, 626 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: best in hockey forty four wins, best in hockey, twenty 627 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: three home wins second best in hockey behind Carolina. Where 628 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: you're going next, How are they doing this with a 629 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: power play that's only at sixteen percent. You're the bottom 630 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: of the league and they've given up, by the way, 631 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: twelve short handed goals. That that part doesn't compute to me. 632 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: And their PK is good, their PK is top five, 633 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: But what's with the power play? 634 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: It makes no sense at all. You look at that 635 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: personnel led by Nathan McKinnon and calmacar and they're doing 636 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: everything right. There's own entries, there's setups, left shots, right shots. 637 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: It's just not going in for them. It doesn't make 638 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: any sense. And you're right, this team is an absolute wagon. 639 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: But I also know when the Penguins play against teams 640 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: that are as talented as this team is, it gets 641 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: a Penguins attention. I think there's a healthy fear of 642 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: they don't want to get embarrassed, and we've seen them 643 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: bring their outblute best. It's yeah, you look at this 644 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: team on January thirty, tim this team was thirty one. 645 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: Hold on thirty one two and seven, thirty one two 646 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: and seven. Now since then they've come down to earth. 647 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 2: That's thirteen ten and two, so they're not quite the 648 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: wagon they were all the way up to the month 649 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: of January. So maybe there's there's a you know, a 650 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: little bit of weakness there, a little bit of insecurity. 651 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, that's to me, that's the 652 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: only weakness because they got two unbelievable goaltenders in Mackenzie 653 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: Blackwood and Scott Wedgwood. We're gonna get Weggie tonight against 654 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: the Penguins. But the only thing that takes absolute zero 655 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: sense is a power play at twenty ninth, thirty first 656 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: on home ife, next to last on home ife, and 657 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: the twelve shorties most than any other team in the league, 658 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: especially with Cale mccarr back there, you have Brett Burns 659 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: running the second unit. It makes absolutely no sense. 660 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: Well, it highlights for me what I think is the 661 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: most underdiscussed thing about why the Penguins are so much 662 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: better this year. And we've talked about a million different 663 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: reasons why personnel broad strokes with Dan Muse and what 664 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: he's doing coaching wise in the assembly put forth by 665 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Dubis, But Borky, I mean, like eighty four percent 666 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: of the PK second best in the NHL, and then 667 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: if you look at their power play twenty five percent, 668 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: fourth best in the NHL. Like their special teams have 669 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. I don't think of all the things we 670 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: talk about with Dan Muse, he's getting enough credit for 671 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: engineering that that I was signed up in blood for 672 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: that when I heard about mus getting hired. 673 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: No, amen, brother, I'm totally on board. The Pains are 674 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: the only team to have both powerplay and penny Kill 675 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: in the top five in the league. And to try 676 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: to piggyback your thoughts on the Penley Kill, which has 677 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: really been top three all year. As I mentioned, they're 678 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: two right now, they're number one on the road. And 679 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: now that's the recipe for success. Right now, you're cooking 680 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: for gas, cooking with gas, and it's it's just it's 681 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: not always the best piece or the best players, it's 682 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: the right players. And I think that's what Kyle Dubis 683 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: has done. He's gone out and got whether it's the 684 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: right players that fit on the and the roster and 685 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: what Dan Muse wants to do in his pieces, but 686 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 2: also the personalities and you know, the way you're able 687 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: to connect and have chemistry and really form a brotherhood 688 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: if you will, in the locker room. I think those 689 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: all matter when we're talking about you know, superlatives like 690 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: this on the special teams, I think all those intangibles 691 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: do matter. That they're all for one, one for all. 692 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 2: They play off each other, they play for each other, 693 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: and they've just got the right pieces. And when you 694 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: think about it, nobody has really jumped out as far 695 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: as the power play. It hasn't really been one guy 696 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: going off the charts good. It hasn't been said like 697 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: with twenty power play goals. It's not that it's just 698 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: everybody has accepted ownership. It's been a bit of a 699 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: Ferros wheel also on personnel, but they keep finding a way. 700 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: And even when things start to slide, which they had 701 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: ten game segments where they haven't scored, Todd Nelson's been 702 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: able to get you know, his Witchcraft book out and 703 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, create different things in different wrinkles. The players 704 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 2: are buying in and it's just been working. 705 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: Porky, thanks greatly, appreciate it. Before we go here, you 706 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: Joe brand Josh gets off. The broadcasters don't have to 707 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: worry about altitude, right, you guys are good. You guys 708 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: have your own oxygen tanks. Everything's all right out there 709 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: in Colorado. 710 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's individual oxygen tanks. 711 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: They're very small. 712 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: They fit in behind their suit codes. But I usually 713 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: get fifth pumping up in the booth on a good goal, 714 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: and so I have multiple oxygen tanks and I switch 715 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: them out quickly so you don't skip a beat. 716 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: Porky, good hockey talk. 717 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the Kim this was good hockey talctor 718 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Bill Bork part of the play by play crew here 719 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: at one oh five nine, the X Your Flag substation 720 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: for Penguins hockey games.