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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: So this story that we're talking about tonight, and will

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Speaker 2: continue to talk into the callers in the line, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to you right away. Just want

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Speaker 2: to recap it very quickly for the audience who was

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Speaker 2: just tuning in. The Globe headline man who killed girlfriends

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Speaker 2: eighteen month old son in nineteen eighty eight grinted parole

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Speaker 2: That was by Travis Anderson, and then the story by

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Speaker 2: Rick Solby in the Boston soby By in the Boston Herald,

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Speaker 2: a Bay State man who was convicted of killing his

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Speaker 2: girlfriend's eighteen month old son and putting the child's body

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Speaker 2: in a dumpster has been paroled. So this nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: this guy's thirty one years old. He's supposedly watching this kid,

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Speaker 2: this eight eighteen month old, for the woman who was

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Speaker 2: allowing him to live in the apartment. He's a living boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: and he sends her out at seven o'clock at night

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Speaker 2: to get him some alcohol. Comes back and she overhears

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Speaker 2: him on the phone. This ex wife's saying some things

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Speaker 2: that sound inculplatory. If you ever needed to do anything

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Speaker 2: for me, pray for me. Now I need a miracle boy.

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Speaker 2: Bon Oyer also said he was going to be gone

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and he was going to do it tomorrow. You

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Speaker 2: can imply whatever you want. Then the next morning, the mother,

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Speaker 2: who had not seen the sun had been told he

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying she won Mother of the Year,

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Speaker 2: by the way, but no one deserves to have their

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Speaker 2: child murdered. She couldn't find him, and according to the

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Speaker 2: reading from the Globe article said that the mother told

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Speaker 2: police she put the son to bed the night before

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Speaker 2: left a couple of hours later. When she returned, she

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Speaker 2: heard these statements. The ruling also said that the following morning,

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Speaker 2: according to the Globe of the child's mother left to

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Speaker 2: go get more alcohol, and when she returned around nine

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Speaker 2: point thirty, the little boy was still sleeping. When she

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Speaker 2: went in the child's room to check him, he wasn't there,

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Speaker 2: and bon Oyer changed his story several times, eventually telling

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Speaker 2: her he sold the toddler for ten thousand dollars. He's

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Speaker 2: admitted to killing him, admitted to murder and the second degree.

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Speaker 2: They found the child's body in a trash bag in

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Speaker 2: a nearby dumpster. The cause of death later determined to

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Speaker 2: be blood force trauma. Big Man kills an eighteen month

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Speaker 2: old child. He got a Bastar's degree from bu Thank

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Speaker 2: god for that. And this is unbelievable. This is these

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Speaker 2: stories are unbelievable. It is the death of Massachusetts. Oliver

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Speaker 2: is in framing him. Oliver, you're next night, sid. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to get through that quickly so I could get

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Speaker 2: to the listeners on the line. And you've been there

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Speaker 2: the longest. Go right ahead, Oliver. Welcome, he Dan Hell,

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Speaker 2: why been better? Go right ahead? Oliver.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got a litany things that you know, and

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Speaker 3: they can tell it in your voice. We're on the

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Speaker 3: same page. I've listened for many, many years. We're on

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Speaker 3: the same page and a lot of things. I want

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Speaker 3: to start off with what I think. And I hate

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Speaker 3: to say this because a lot of people are going

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Speaker 3: to be turned off by it, but you know these

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Speaker 3: people vote too. You know that they vote as well, and.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they are allowed to vote in Massachusetts. But

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Speaker 2: we don't have that many people in prison in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a small number, I mean.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of criminals in Massachusetts like everywhere else,

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Speaker 3: whether it's petty crime.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you're expanding, you're expanding the voter pool.

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Speaker 2: I say what you're saying, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So my point is this, if these people who really

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Speaker 3: forgive me for saying this, that contribute very little to

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Speaker 3: society are takers and not givers, but they vote is

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Speaker 3: as much of a value as ours. It's a cheaper

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Speaker 3: vote to buy it.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: And then the other thing I want to get on

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Speaker 3: is with the Save Act. You know, one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: behind that and one am I that I And one

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Speaker 3: of the things that I read that really blew me

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Speaker 3: away was and I don't I don't want to quote anybody,

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Speaker 3: but somebody in Congress on the on the on the

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Speaker 3: left side, the blue side, said you know, well, when

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Speaker 3: they said well why are you against this, they gave okay,

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Speaker 3: this that. But then one line was because it takes

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Speaker 3: an effort. I swear to God that was one of

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Speaker 3: the excuses. It's an inconvenience and it takes an effort.

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Speaker 2: There's no inconvenience if to say the Act passed, the

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Speaker 2: people who are on voters voter rolls now are on

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Speaker 2: voters voter rolls. No one's going to be taken off

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Speaker 2: the ball to rolls. And then when they show up,

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just talking about Oh yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I have My answer to that

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Speaker 2: is that that the effort should be no more than

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Speaker 2: going to your town hall wherever you live, or your

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Speaker 2: city hall. And if you don't have First of all,

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Speaker 2: if you don't have an ID, you won't be able

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Speaker 2: to buy beer a wine at a liquor store. You

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Speaker 2: won't be able to buy beer a wine at a

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Speaker 2: grocery store. You can't go in a federal building, you

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Speaker 2: can't fly on an airplane, you can't buy a beer

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Speaker 2: in a Red Sox.

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Speaker 3: Game shovel in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to have it the shovel snow

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Speaker 2: in New York City, right, which is a little weird,

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Speaker 2: but that's okay. And all you gotta do is go

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Speaker 2: to your local town hall, take fifteen minutes and say,

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Speaker 2: take my picture and give me a photo ID. This

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Speaker 2: is who I am, you know, show them who you

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Speaker 2: are where you live, right, And you just can't walk

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Speaker 2: in and say, oh, I live in for forty four

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Speaker 2: High Street. Make make me up an eye d No,

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Speaker 2: you got to prove who you are and where you live.

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Speaker 3: But it takes an effort.

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Speaker 2: In that's okay. You know, I don't care if these

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Speaker 2: people who have never worked a day in their life,

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Speaker 2: who are lazy, who are layabouts, who sit around whatever,

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Speaker 2: they got to learn to take some effort because guess what,

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Speaker 2: you guys like you and me, we make efforts every

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Speaker 2: day of the week to pay our taxes to support

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Speaker 2: a lot of these lazy folks.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely to just quickly keep jumping here, sure via them

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Speaker 4: are just jumping off of this one, the via the

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Speaker 4: price of petroleum in Massachusetts. Why doesn't the DEVA think

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Speaker 4: them to think of suspending the gas tax during this crisis.

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Speaker 2: Because that's the that's the lifeblood that that pays, you know,

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Speaker 2: the salaries they.

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Speaker 5: Lay about and.

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Speaker 3: Courtly, what if you was just the suspended just during

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Speaker 3: this crisis, you know, and think about this, then well,

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Speaker 3: here's what I love.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I love. Okay, I'm going to be real

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Speaker 2: with you. I love the people who were you know,

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Speaker 2: the word complaining, I'll use the big boy word complaining

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Speaker 2: about an increase in gas prices. Where were they when

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Speaker 2: gas prices even higher? Under Biden? And and and the

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Speaker 2: the Iranians were busily trying to put together some nukes.

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Speaker 2: Would they how much would they be willing to pay

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Speaker 2: not to be nuked by Iran? How much would you

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Speaker 2: be willing to pay in a gas price for the

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Speaker 2: next couple of months so that when you you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: wake up some morning and find out that Boston had

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Speaker 2: been immolated by a nuclear weapon. I mean, talk about inconvenience,

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Speaker 2: give me imployment.

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Speaker 3: That was that was the turn. And you know you're

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Speaker 3: talking jumping onto that subject. The truth of the matter

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Speaker 3: is how many wars this has been going on three weeks? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is all the mindset of the people. You think

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Speaker 3: about this. A lot of the kids that were doing

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Speaker 3: their demonstrating and whatever at Harvard and Columbia, they came

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Speaker 3: out of the COVID era, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They were during COVID They were maybe junior seniors in

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Speaker 3: high school and they got that, you know, so when

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, here's the thing that's interesting. There's

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Speaker 2: not much anti war protest here. I think that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people understand that it's a good thing that

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Speaker 2: Iran is bummed back to the Stone Age because those

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Speaker 2: crazy sobs, those crazy Mullahs and Iatola's, if they had

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Speaker 2: the bomb, they dropped the first one in Israel and

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Speaker 2: the second one on us, and guess what, we'd all

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Speaker 2: be dead. So I would prefer to pay a little

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Speaker 2: bit more on gas prices for the next couple of

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Speaker 2: months as opposed to dying in a nuclear INFRONTO. Call

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Speaker 2: me crazy. We just lost them there that we You

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Speaker 2: weren't off Oliver, but I think he fainted to what

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Speaker 2: I had to say. Who's up next? We have Kathy,

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Speaker 2: Bob and Raynham. I got some room at six one seven,

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Speaker 2: two five four ten thirty and some room at six

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Speaker 2: one seven nine three ten thirty. I want to get

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Speaker 2: it back on topic. Guy who killed an eighteen month

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Speaker 2: old baby boy in September nineteen eighty eight is going

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Speaker 2: to walk out of prison and join us here amongst

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Speaker 2: the free in Massachusetts thanks to our patrol our Parole Board,

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Speaker 2: which by a six to nothing unanimous vote has set

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Speaker 2: him free. Let me tell you Governor Healy, if you're listening,

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Speaker 2: fire the parole board, all six of them tomorrow. Fire

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Speaker 2: them tomorrow for lack of due diligence, and appoint a

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Speaker 2: new parole board. You were an attorney general. Act like

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Speaker 2: an attorney general, Act like a prosecutor. Coming back on

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Speaker 2: Night Side.

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Speaker 1: It's nice eye with Dan Ray on.

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Speaker 2: Boston's news radio next to Kathy. Kathy, you're calling it

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Speaker 2: from central Massachusetts. How are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 6: Good? You know, Dan, listening to you talk and I

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Speaker 6: know you're a grandparent as am I and like you said,

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Speaker 6: you worry for your grandkids. And my daughter recently said

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Speaker 6: to me she wants to move south. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I said to her, by the way, you know there's

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Speaker 6: a tax on lawnmowers that's coming next year. They're really

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Speaker 6: excited her.

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Speaker 2: That you serious. I mean, does a tax on lawnmowers coming?

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Speaker 6: Specially you didn't care about that? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know that they recently banned gas powered leaf blowers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, that's old. Yeah, yeah, No, this is an

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Speaker 6: actual proposal of attacks.

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Speaker 2: Why would they be attack on a lawnmower because of

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Speaker 2: the noise that a lawnmower makes.

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Speaker 6: I'm not certain, Dan and I didn't read through it.

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Speaker 2: So because their noise noxious. At the same time, what

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Speaker 2: I would do is don't cut your grass. Let your

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Speaker 2: grass grow and let it, let it become a horrible

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Speaker 2: looking on and your neighbors would be upset because you're

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Speaker 2: reducing the value of their homes.

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Speaker 6: Right, all right, No, I know, but you know the point.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, my producer is telling me my

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Speaker 2: ear that that's a scam story, that that is not true.

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Speaker 2: So really, so your daughter can relax. Okay, thanks very much, Dan.

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Speaker 2: My producers shop on this issue absolutely interesting.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, it's just there's so many different

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Speaker 6: issues and safety being paramount, and you made have made

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Speaker 6: some great points, I think, in particular about the parole Board.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 6: And it is it's time to take action, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, they got to go. I hope I hope that

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Speaker 2: the Republican candidates join me and uh and ask the government,

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Speaker 2: with all due respect, they must to fire the sixth

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Speaker 2: fire the city. They make one hundred and three thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: the chair of the board makes I take one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty seven thousand dollars. That's not bad, that's not

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Speaker 2: Sure, trust me that these things are all out of control.

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Speaker 6: She doesn't back down.

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Speaker 6: She doesn't back down, and she won't because she's got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not a bad way to start, Kathy, I gotta

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Speaker 2: Uh, Well, it's going fine. I'd like a few more

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Speaker 7: NEWSI thank you. So Sadly, society has really gone down

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Speaker 2: And then you know, by this punk and her throat

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Speaker 7: And just to say, you other, you know, the other

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Speaker 2: One line at six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the cause. Let me

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Speaker 8: Rebecca, Hey, how are you sorry?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 8: I was driving home and I was logged into tuned

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Speaker 8: And my grandfather was actually part of the jury.

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Speaker 8: And I will forever defend the fact that that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean what people don't remember about that case

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Speaker 8: It was a long, like drawn out and I mean,

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Speaker 2: a lawyer, so I understand how the system works. They

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Speaker 2: found the child in a dumpster. Why they didn't take

437
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Speaker 2: him down from murder one, I don't know, But they

438
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: might have said to themselves, look, this guy might be

439
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Speaker 2: able to meet beat murder one because he might be

440
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Speaker 2: able to say, hey, I was asleep in the couch

441
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Speaker 2: and somebody else came in. Maybe they didn't have good

442
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Speaker 2: fingerprints on the bag that the child was the but

443
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Speaker 2: it's a disgusting case. The bottom line is he takes

444
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Speaker 2: a guilty play, he's guaranteed a parole hearing he's not

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Speaker 2: guaranteed parole, and for these six parole members to vote

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Speaker 2: unanimously to give him a parole, I think the governor

447
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Speaker 2: should fire the six of them tomorrow and appoint new

448
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Speaker 2: members of the pro Boyd. In my opinion, we've lost her.

449
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Speaker 2: We had that was two calls. Now that we have

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Speaker 2: lost online six, I don't understand that we've had trouble

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Speaker 2: on that line before, Dan Cantano, So please make a

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Speaker 2: note of that two callers dropped off. You're the little

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Speaker 2: bit of static that says there's a problem. All right,

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Speaker 2: let me keep going here. I got one line at

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Speaker 2: six one seven two four thirty. Please fill that line

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Speaker 2: and stay away from the other line for now, okay,

457
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Speaker 2: because we're gonna try to get that remedied. Let me

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Speaker 2: go next to Rob Is in Boston. Rob and Rebecca,

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Speaker 2: I guess you were first time caller. We're gonna give

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Speaker 2: you a round of applause because we we would have

461
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Speaker 2: given you a round applause. Let's have the route of

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Speaker 2: applause for Rebecca, and thank you for invoking your grandfather's name.

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Speaker 2: He must have been a great guy to have dealt

464
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Speaker 2: with that without that joy I wish I'd said a

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Speaker 2: calling another time, Rebecca, We'll get you back on rob

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Speaker 2: Is in Boston. Rob you were next on Nightside.

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Speaker 9: Welcome, Yes, recalling my time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're selling one of those blowhods in Congress. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 9: That's what I was going for. Hey, could could could

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Speaker 9: some level of accountability be achieved by saying I think

472
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Speaker 9: that a civil lawsuit is easy to bring, but we

473
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Speaker 9: have five thousand angel families. Yeah, could they get together

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Speaker 9: a bunch of them and bring some sort of a

475
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Speaker 9: class action suit against some of these das that are

476
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Speaker 9: letting these people out? And I saw one in the

477
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Speaker 9: news the other day. He got sentenced to eleven years,

478
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Speaker 9: he got out after eight and he just killed again.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, that was the guy. No, that's even a better.

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Speaker 2: We did that case last week. That's the guy down

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Speaker 2: at the Old Dominion University who was I came here

482
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Speaker 2: as a as a as an immigrant, became a citizen,

483
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Speaker 2: came here from Sierra Leone and joined the Virginia National

484
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Speaker 2: Guard and got radicalized and became pledged his life to

485
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Speaker 2: isis and he started to deal with undercover FBI agents.

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Speaker 2: It's insane, And he was going to kill people. He

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Speaker 2: bought a gun. You know, it was all set up.

488
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Speaker 2: He was going to buy the gun, the gun was deactivated,

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Speaker 2: and then he was arrested. The judge, the prosecutor asked

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Speaker 2: for twenty years. The judge gave him eleven. Nice break

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Speaker 2: for eleven years. It, by the way, was not a judge,

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Speaker 2: an Obama judge or a Biden judge. It was a

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Speaker 2: George Bush forty three judge. So this guy gives him

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Speaker 2: eleven years, he served six, he gets out, and he

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Speaker 2: walks into the ROTC class the other day and kills

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Speaker 2: the instructor, who also happened to be a I believe

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Speaker 2: it was a major or colonel in the US military.

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Speaker 9: Isn't somebody liable for a wrongful That's yeah? I mean

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Speaker 9: even out of the five thousand Angel families.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, they can sue. Here's the deal. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean by an angel family. I

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Speaker 2: wish people understood the issue more. But when someone has

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Speaker 2: someone killed in this country, they're designated an angel family.

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Speaker 2: Obviously member of the individual and family member that they lost.

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Speaker 2: They have a right to sue the killer in civil court.

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Speaker 2: But most of these killers don't have two nickels to

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Speaker 2: rub together and they don't want to go through the

508
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Speaker 2: trauma of it. And there's no class action that you

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Speaker 2: could put together of you know, because no, because in

510
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Speaker 2: order to have a class action, they have to be

511
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Speaker 2: what's called legally similarly situated. So if if let us say,

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Speaker 2: you're one of five thousand people who have been ripped

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Speaker 2: off by I don't know, you know, some company that

514
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Speaker 2: overcharged you for medication, or for some company that overcharged

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Speaker 2: you for for new tires in your car, you can

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Speaker 2: be you can conform a class and go after the

517
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Speaker 2: company on an economic class action, but there's no real

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Speaker 2: way to go after you know, people go ahead.

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Speaker 9: The legal system has to has to be accountable for

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Speaker 9: making these these these types of decisions. They're getting people killed.

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Speaker 9: I don't say go after the individuals. Of course, you know,

522
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Speaker 9: Pedro is not going to have a million bucks, but

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Speaker 9: the court system, the judge could lose his judgeship or

524
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 9: the you know, the appointments that these folks get. If

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Speaker 9: they're making these kind of decisions that are getting people

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Speaker 9: killed and then they let them out and then they killed.

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Speaker 2: Well, the question in the case that you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: the old dominion University case the Old UK from last week.

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Speaker 2: My my question is, when this guy served his time,

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Speaker 2: he had pledged his his his loyalty, his fielthy to

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Speaker 2: isis why was he not stripped of his In America

532
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: he became a naturalized citizen. He should have gone through

533
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Speaker 2: the process of denaturalization and he should have been deported

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Speaker 2: from the country. Send him back to Sierra Leone or

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Speaker 2: whatever whatever god forsaken country he wants to go live in.

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Speaker 9: Jan I think that state ordered is gonna need some

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Speaker 9: federal help. Is there any chance that like this goes

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Speaker 9: federally because.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, there isn't because it's a state issue.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the truth. I can say, oh yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 2: there are no Republican statewide officeholders in Massachusetts. Dianda's Augla

542
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: was the most courageous Democratic politician we've had in Massachusetts

543
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Speaker 2: in a long long time. And she just wants to

544
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: simply do her job, which is to audit the state legislature,

545
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: simple as that. And you get Marianna and Spilker up

546
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: there who and the Attorney General who are fighting to

547
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Speaker 2: turn her up to prevent her from doing it. When

548
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: you vote next November. You got to remember what these

549
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: people did or did not do.

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Speaker 9: They're abstructing the people's will. Isn't that like something the

551
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 9: federal government should step in?

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Speaker 2: Is now there's no basis, no, because we have a

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Speaker 2: we have we are a constitutional republic with a great

554
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Speaker 2: deal of power is given to the states. Okay, that's

555
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: the concept of federalism. Great deal of power is given

556
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Speaker 2: in the states. I know that that you're frustrated, and

557
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: i know I'm not giving you the answers that you want,

558
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: but please stick with me. I know you've called before. Rob.

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Speaker 2: Stick with me on night side and we will. We

560
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: will keep you on top of these issues. And you know, please.

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Speaker 9: It makes me think of you know, the Red Coats

562
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 9: and the British and oh my god, is it coming again.

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00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of coming again. As we have we have representation,

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00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: we have taxation without representation. If you happen to be

565
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: a Republican in Massachusetts, there's no doubt about that. But

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00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: that's the problem not of the Democratic Party. It's the

567
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: problem with the Republican Party. There's been so weak they

568
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: have to you know, it's like if the Red Sox

569
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: didn't didn't sign any additional players, and they lose every

570
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: game and they're not interested in competing. Well that's a problem,

571
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: but that's what's going on.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Rob, I hate to be maybe these politicians, James.

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Speaker 9: The last thing I think these politicians they run away

574
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Speaker 9: from their own state to run here because they got

575
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 9: so much dirt, like in Kentucky and Maryland in Chicago

576
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 9: that they could never run for office over there and

577
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 9: everybody come out of the woodworks, We're all the dirt.

578
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 9: So they run away to like, oh, Massachusetts and everybody's

579
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 9: all like you know, kinky ring.

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Speaker 2: They know it's a weak Republican party. They can come

581
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: here and they can be elevated in the Democratic Party

582
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: because most of the Democrats whore elected are very happy

583
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: to sit where they are and die in the legislature,

584
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: and they let these people come in and become members

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Speaker 2: of Congress. Rob, I got a fight, man, Talk to

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Speaker 2: you soon. Have a great night. Here's a break coming

587
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: right back on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nobody's been waiting long here, so we're going to

590
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: try to get everybody in before the eleven o'clock news

591
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: and then We're going to switch and tell you of

592
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Speaker 2: the story of the sons of Donald Trump. We are

593
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Speaker 2: now getting into drone business, little conflict advengers. Can you

594
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: say going to John and Denham? Hey John, you're next

595
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: on nightside, Go right ahead.

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Speaker 5: They were at first heard this, I was a spaceless

597
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: I was like, how bad are crimes? You have to

598
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: commit the whole? This is the standard, the measure, the perfect.

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00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: It's my book. You know what, take a pict the

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Speaker 5: book from the ice. What diff the main caravices about em?

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Speaker 5: The parole boards. It's just it's unbelievable. It's just the

602
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Speaker 5: state is getting worse, and you all army decide that

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Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna both mister short sleet, but yeah, Caneli

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Speaker 5: and shortly be on the regular other day? I think

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Speaker 5: they're both viable candidates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they But they both I thought were very impressive

607
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Speaker 2: to be really honest with that. I was in the

608
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Speaker 2: room with them for two hours and I had a

609
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Speaker 2: chance to watch them. They seem to be the normal

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Speaker 2: human beings to be honest with, which to me is

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Speaker 2: a real important qualification to to to be elected to office.

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Speaker 5: You know what they do, They answer questions, you know,

613
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Speaker 5: they don't give your spends. They answer questions.

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Speaker 2: The answered all my questions. And you know, I wasn't

615
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Speaker 2: trying to try or anything like that. I was trying

616
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Speaker 2: to have The whole idea was to have a conversation

617
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Speaker 2: and allow them to introduce themselves to voters. And I

618
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: thought that it worked really well.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mike Minogue chose not to participate. That was his decision.

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Speaker 2: I had talked to him and tried to persuade him

622
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Speaker 2: to join the conversation in studio. He wasn't interested. You know,

623
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Speaker 2: that's his that's his decision.

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Speaker 5: Does the governor have authority to fire these people?

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00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, you know what because this you know, I

627
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 5: hate to go in this direction, but this is I've

628
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: never seen the Democratic Party so evil and so vicious

629
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: as it is right now that they're pro criminal, they

630
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 5: don't care about the victims. They're pro illegal his rule again,

631
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: asking for money to defend illegals. And like my sister's

632
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Speaker 5: been disabled his birth and she's had to fight claw

633
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: for every penny.

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Speaker 2: And those are the people who we need to support,

635
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: people who have because there but if the grace of

636
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Speaker 2: God goes you were me, uh, and.

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Speaker 5: We have all these disabled veterans we have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bet you yeah, tower to tunnels, tower to

639
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: tunnel to towers and all that stuff which is wonderful,

640
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: but all of them should be taken care of by

641
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Speaker 2: the federal government, by my taxes and your taxes. Hey, John,

642
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Speaker 2: I got to keep rolling here. Have you called me

643
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: forces your first time I called before? Well, I want

644
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: you to keep calling because they need your passion. I

645
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Speaker 2: really do. Okay, Thank you very much, John.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you much.

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Speaker 2: Let me keep going here. Let me get tim In

648
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Speaker 2: and Wilber and Tim. I got to get you in

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Speaker 2: a couple more and go right ahead.

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Speaker 9: Tim, I couldn't agree with you more. They should fire

651
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Speaker 9: the hopeful all board and start again.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I hope the governor will listen to

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Speaker 2: them with us tonight and and if not, deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Deal with it because they are her appointees. She appointed

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Speaker 2: four of them, and she should just say that I

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Speaker 2: want your resignation and if you know, if you don't,

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Speaker 2: if you don't resign, I'm going to fire you.

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Speaker 3: There you go, all right, Tim, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You appreciate your support. You know that they thank you much.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's keep rolling here. Gonna go, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get Sean and Lola. I'm going to try to get

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Speaker 2: Linda and North Weymouth in as well. Sean, go right ahead.

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: I don't think there's much love for someone that kills

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Speaker 10: and they team up child.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question about that. But the question is

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Speaker 2: after they plead guilty to murder the second agree. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they have a right to a parole hearing. But they

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Speaker 2: don't have a right to a parole. And that's what

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Speaker 2: these knuckleheads don't understand.

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Speaker 10: Yes, that's because we live in a one potty state.

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Speaker 10: And that's why, you.

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Speaker 2: Bet you it's that's gotta change, right, competition.

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Speaker 10: Like do something eventually to bring up the matters that

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Speaker 10: are in hand, which I don't.

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Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing, here's the thing that's really

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Speaker 2: you know what the percentage of people who are registered

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Speaker 2: as Democrats in Massachusetts is. I want to take a

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Speaker 2: guess at that.

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Speaker 10: I take a guess at probably six.

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Speaker 2: You know how many what independents are? Independents are like

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Speaker 2: at sixty two percent and the balance of whatever the

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Speaker 2: numbers work out to be. The Republicans like at eight percent.

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Speaker 2: So the Republicans are clearly the minority, but the independents

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Speaker 2: are the big party in Massachusetts and they need to

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Speaker 2: wake up as a group. So they're called unenrolled, not independence,

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Speaker 2: but in effect that's what they are. They choose not

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Speaker 2: to affiliate with either party, but.

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Speaker 10: That's because they choose not to.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right that they're not comfortable in either And now

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Speaker 2: what they have to do is make a decision and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: are we happy with what the Democrats have been in

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Speaker 2: control all this time? And if they're happy, they should

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Speaker 2: say with them. If they're not happy, they should look

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Speaker 2: for other options.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think that eventually we have to be unhappy

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Speaker 10: in the state that we live in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty unhappy. Totals, it's a total mess, Sean.

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Speaker 2: I want to try to get one more in here.

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Speaker 2: I know you called late, but I want to try

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Speaker 2: to get everybody in. Thank you so much. Please keep

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Speaker 2: listening and please keep calling this program. Okay, your calls

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Speaker 2: have been great tonight. Thank you. Linda in north Waymouth.

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Speaker 6: Linda, go right ahead, Hi, Dan, thank you for taking

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Speaker 6: my call.

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Speaker 11: I one hundred percent agree with you. I think this

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Speaker 11: is outrageous and they have this blackjack, evil spirited soul. Yes,

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Speaker 11: out free is scary to me?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's not out free yet. And if I was

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Speaker 2: the governor, I'd be working on either frustrating their decision,

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Speaker 2: doing whatever I could, and if necessary, asking them all

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Speaker 2: to resign forth with and give up their their their

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Speaker 2: fat paychecks of one hundred and forty three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 11: A year, right right, I haven't put question to ask you, Dan.

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Speaker 11: Does a lot of this fall on the judge when

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Speaker 11: she goes to give a sentence? Is there any she

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Speaker 11: or he? I say she, because that's not I see lately.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no in this case, in

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Speaker 2: this case, no, in this particular case, and every case

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Speaker 2: is different. I think that in the case down an

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Speaker 2: old Dominion where a guy went in and shot the

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Speaker 2: RTC instructor, he was found guilty and could have been

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Speaker 2: sentenced to twenty years, a George Bush judge gave him

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Speaker 2: eleven years and he only served six. No, in this case,

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Speaker 2: this guy pled guilty. The case we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: death of the eighteen month old baby, the guy pled

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Speaker 2: guilty to murder too. And what murder too is? In

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Speaker 2: those days murdered I and would still be life in

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Speaker 2: prison without parole because he was thirty one. Murder two

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Speaker 2: means you get a parole hearing. You know at some

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Speaker 2: point after fifteen years or longer. Right to a parole

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Speaker 2: hearing is not a right to parole. It's a right

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Speaker 2: to argue for role hearing. And he never should have

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Speaker 2: get he never should have gotten this. Parle Linda, I

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Speaker 2: know that you've called late, but I got to run

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to change topics on the other side.

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Speaker 11: Fas Yes, God, God bless you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you after the eleven I'm going to

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Speaker 2: talk about the Trump Boys getting involved in a company

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Speaker 2: that's going to pitch the Pentagon for drone contracts. I

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Speaker 2: think it's an apparent. It's a clear conflict of interest.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know what you think. Coming back on

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Speaker 2: Night Side,