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Speaker 2: The kick is on its way, and that kick and

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Speaker 2: if you can hear from Roary, the crowd here is

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Speaker 2: good with seven second remaining at take.

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Speaker 3: For Dad, death taxes and Mike Tomlin. Losing on Thursday nights.

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Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers last night, dropping their Thursday night football

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Speaker 4: game to the Bengals after what looked like a perfect

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Speaker 4: scenario for them. A new quarterback ushered in just ten

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Speaker 4: days ago into the offense, their star defensive player was

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Speaker 4: out the worst rushing team.

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Speaker 3: In the league by a mile, and none.

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Speaker 5: Of it mattered.

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Speaker 4: Nope, the Pittsburgh Steelers were embarrassed on Thursday night, just

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Speaker 4: four days after we started to think, you know what,

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Speaker 4: maybe these guys are historic. Well, guess what they were

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Speaker 4: once again historic bad. Jamar Chase sets a franchise record

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Speaker 4: for receptions for the Bengals last night with sixteen. When

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Speaker 4: the game was on the line, he was running free

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Speaker 4: with nobody guarding him at all, the guy who'd been

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Speaker 4: dicing them up all game.

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Speaker 5: That's how bad communication was.

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Speaker 6: Defensively, even when they tried to guard him, they couldn't.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, in their defense.

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Speaker 6: They tried not guarding him. Maybe that'll work. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 6: nothing did. He was undefensible.

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Speaker 4: He was, he really was. I mean he he is awesome.

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Speaker 4: And I have to say, as bad as the Steelers

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Speaker 4: They couldn't stop Chase Brown, who was the lowest in

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Speaker 5: But as bad as they were, Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Was that good. Played out of his mind.

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco never played that good in his life.

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Speaker 4: He never threw that many passes pinpoint in his entire career.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now.

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Speaker 2: You know why.

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Speaker 4: I know, because he didn't miss anything last night. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there was like he had like seven drops.

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Speaker 6: It seemed like, oh yeah, like receivers were dropping the

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Speaker 4: Well have you thought about the fact that the Browns

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Speaker 4: drop five on Dylan Gabriel and what might have happened

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they're just they're just idiots

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Speaker 6: Like I as bad as he made us look, he

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Speaker 6: made the Browns look even worse.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he could take the Browns to the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Well, maybe they've already cooked their season, but the Bengals haven't,

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Speaker 6: and they only had one more win than the Browns.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a rationale behind not using Flacoff. You're

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Speaker 4: the Browns, and that is you do have to find

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Speaker 4: out about Dylan Gabriel because you drafted two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You've got to get it because you're the Browns, because

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Speaker 3: then you're dumb.

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Speaker 4: You're so dumb. But to deal him in division, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and dumb. Andrew Berry, well dumb from the perspective, you've

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Speaker 4: already punted. You've punted on the year. That's I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's crazy to me. That's the Browns, uh so their owner.

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Speaker 4: That's why all of their sports talk shows were having

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Speaker 6: Like the Ravens, you think they're you think they're mailing

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Speaker 5: Dude, the Bengals are now thinking about playoffs.

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Speaker 6: It's it's crazy that the Browns did that, Like that

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Speaker 6: was dumb. Kudos to Flacco. I mean, he's cooked us

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Speaker 6: two years in a row.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: He did it in Indy last year. He looked even

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Speaker 6: better last night. When you have three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 6: yards three tuddies. I mean, he looked ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking we should have signed Troy for that game,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, you know, like the.

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Speaker 4: Godfather too, when they bring that guy's brother into the courtroom,

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Speaker 4: it scares him into the you know, not testifying.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, old guys can't run. But Flack

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Speaker 5: Sixteen yard gain on a bootleg I mean.

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Speaker 3: On a bootleg. Keeper that was just wide.

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Speaker 4: Open, absolute ridiculous. And the thing that pisses me off.

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Speaker 4: An Abbey and I were just talking about this before

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Speaker 4: I want to know what Tomlin's record is just in primetime. Seriously,

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Speaker 4: all these eight o'clock games we end up losing at

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then seven in the Thursday night football games

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Speaker 3: Oh AFC North.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just a ridiculous stat He's terrible on Thursday nights.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, you know.

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Speaker 5: That was it at all.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Bengals had a tough game against Green

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Speaker 4: right from the beginning. Tomlin, that statab off was a

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Speaker 4: fifty six straight games with seven or less points in

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Speaker 3: How do you even do that?

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Speaker 4: They had an opportunity to really put the pedal down

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Speaker 5: They were running the ball at will.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Warren was ripping off ten yards a run yep,

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Speaker 4: over the top NonStop? That didn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 4: funniest part of last night was that was funny when

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Speaker 3: What the hell was he doing? He could have heard

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Speaker 4: I don't he I think he was trying to celebrate

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Speaker 4: the more you watch it. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Rogers was

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Speaker 4: that was never supposed.

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Speaker 3: Toosed to flicker?

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Speaker 5: Why was that even an option on that play?

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Speaker 5: How was that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I misunderstand the potential roulette wheel of

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Speaker 3: But yea, each play has a bunch of stems on it.

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Speaker 4: But but I mean, that can't be there. There's no

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Speaker 6: Why are you doing a flea flicker against an awful

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 4: I think I posted that last night, like why are

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Speaker 3: And guess what.

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Speaker 4: The defense wasn't good last night after all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we were putting up points at will. It was a

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Speaker 4: Steelers coaching is a mess, I believe.

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Speaker 6: I also think that the Steelers corners were a mess

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Speaker 6: last night. Like, you know, we heard Mike talk about this,

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Speaker 6: we heard Tomlin talk about it in training camp. We

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Speaker 6: cannot He's not the corner that he was. I mean,

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Speaker 6: all due respect to what he's done in the league,

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Speaker 6: he's not that guy anymore. Jalen Ramsey got cooked last night.

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Speaker 6: And Joey Porter can't keep his hand off the receivers.

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Speaker 6: He can't do it.

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Speaker 4: There's been some people who've been targeting Joey Porter for

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Speaker 4: the last couple of years, critics to Joey Porter for

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Speaker 4: this very thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mike said it.

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Speaker 4: I think it was even off air actually when we

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Speaker 4: really good NFL player. He's not an elite corner, you know.

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Speaker 4: Is he trending in that direction? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He has games where you think, oh man, this guy

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Speaker 4: let him get away with one last night. Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: were a lot of tads defensively, the Steelers were penalized.

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Speaker 4: That was a bad performance from the Pittsburgh Steelers all around.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is not immune from the criticism either.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that arm punt was all about.

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Speaker 4: The timing on that was brutal, and then he.

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Speaker 3: Threw it inside too.

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Speaker 4: which was a crazy defensive play that I'll chalk up

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Speaker 6: That was like the Peyton Wilson interception last year against Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: That well.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of looking at that TV thinking, how

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Speaker 4: the hell are you guys doing this? Both friar mooth

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Speaker 4: friar Moose gets activated last night.

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Speaker 6: I mean we found pat fryar Moose. I guess that's

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 4: Roman Wilson even came up with a couple of big

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Speaker 5: I liked what I saw from him. But yeah, Moose,

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Speaker 4: That last touchdown sixty eight yards Okay, I mean we

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Speaker 4: all thought the same thing though, right, way too much

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Speaker 4: time on the clock. It would have been better if

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Speaker 4: we would have just driven down and eaten up a

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I just like to score right now

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Speaker 6: because I'm just like, I don't trust.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't stop them.

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Speaker 3: On the other side.

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Speaker 4: How many third and longs did Flacco convert yesterday right

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Speaker 4: at the beginning of the game. What the hell Like

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Speaker 4: there's just not a sense of urgency. It seems like

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Speaker 4: with this team. They really look like like a cat

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Speaker 4: playing with their food in that first quarter when they

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Speaker 6: I mean, the slants were open all day long, He's like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 6: all right, I don't know any of the plays. I

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Speaker 6: say we both double slant? You guys like the double slant?

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Speaker 6: We did it seven times in a row, but maybe,

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Speaker 4: How don't you do something defensively to notice that pattern

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Speaker 10: You've a little zone recalls and listen, there's a handful

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Speaker 3: That one I read off my wristband.

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Speaker 10: He was supposed to counter emotion and bluff that end.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Uh, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like, I mean, if a player is just reading something

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Speaker 4: The thing that sucks about it is one that had

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, kudos to those guys they got

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Speaker 3: Those games used to be tracked.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Amazon puts some money into the Thursday night games

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Speaker 4: Well, and somebody told me, did I watched off of

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Speaker 5: And then on your TV? I didn't see that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's because I'm watching the app. Well, were

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Speaker 6: And then the Bengals were on the app because it

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Speaker 4: Thirty three thirty one Steelers lose Thursday Night Ball, a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we would have taken it because you know,

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Speaker 6: like Mike said, those division games short week, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: How did they get their ass handed to them on

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Speaker 4: until December, and Jake Browning was running for his life

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Speaker 6: And Jake Browning just doesn't have the talent because Joe

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Speaker 4: Either, right, but he's good enough and not knowing he

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Speaker 4: faked there pretty good.

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Speaker 3: He faked it pretty good.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it seems like the best strategy when you're

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Speaker 3: Out of his mind and doesn't let any.

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Speaker 4: Sacks or your best defensive player. If you can lose

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Speaker 4: might help out things. Not taking advantage of that situation.

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Speaker 4: This is absolute grist for the mill, for the Tomlin critics.

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Speaker 6: But that was like an Artie Smith special. I mean

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Speaker 4: I mean he almost got all four of those guys

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Speaker 6: So that was the Artie Smith special. I mean, a

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Speaker 3: They're doing the scramble drills.

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Speaker 4: There was one scramble he had in the first half

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Speaker 4: if these kids don't drive him crazy. That's what it

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Speaker 3: What are you guys doing. He's so old and I

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Speaker 5: I will turn this football team around. If you guys

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Speaker 3: Abby.

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Speaker 5: But these were women who you you pay all the time.

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Speaker 8: But these were women who were you know, highly established

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Speaker 5: So maybe that's true. But being a proud NFL.

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Speaker 8: If these things are important to you, you see yourself

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Speaker 5: Know, develop those habits now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she was a really fascinating Well I really like Charlotte.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's very very cool, good good on you.

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Speaker 3: That's a good organization for you to be involved in.

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Speaker 8: I loved it, so we I did that first and

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Speaker 4: I love that your Steeler's notebook. Also very jealous of

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Speaker 5: I get sucked into much Twitter stas now anyway.

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Speaker 5: He gets me sucked in too much.

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Speaker 4: Mike's coming in. He pulled the all night here once again.

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Speaker 4: He slept at the radio station.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to hear how the postgame call in

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Speaker 4: It's gotta be a nice day, Mote DV Sports. Mike Persuda,

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Speaker 4: who hosted the post game show on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 4: what was the tenor of the postgame show's callins?

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Speaker 3: Measured conservative, optimistic.

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Speaker 13: Profound disappointment. Yeah, we didn't get any fire of the

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Speaker 3: Think I actually give you and Charlie credit for that.

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Speaker 6: I think you create the atmosphere on that show where

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Speaker 3: I mean, orderly.

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Speaker 13: We only got one what I thought was drunk rambling rant.

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Speaker 13: I apologized, but it was funny and no swear words.

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Speaker 13: We got to let it go for a while.

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Speaker 7: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 13: I mean that's to pull your hair out kind of

447
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Speaker 13: game sports that's brought to you by Bridgeville clients that

448
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 13: you know their their disappointment, Uh probably exists on two levels.

449
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Speaker 3: Number one, it was a golden.

450
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Speaker 13: Opportunity that they let slip away. Now that part, Hey,

451
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Speaker 13: you can understand that that can happen because it's Thursday

452
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Speaker 13: night and you're on the road and it's a division game.

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Speaker 3: The manner in which it slipped away is I don't

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Speaker 3: know that I have the adjective.

455
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Speaker 13: That the worst NFL rushing team by far, I mean

456
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Speaker 13: the Titans are thirty first and they're twenty five twenty

457
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Speaker 13: six yards ahead of the Bengals in rushing per game.

458
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Speaker 5: That that they threw up one hundred at halftime.

459
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Speaker 3: That could dictate. Yeah, that was Chase Brown, not Derrick Henry.

460
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Speaker 13: And it ran through the Pittsburgh Steelers.

461
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Speaker 4: And you went right down the field on the first

462
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Speaker 4: drive and scored, had an opportunity to go up fourteen

463
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Speaker 4: to nothing. I don't like I think they got over

464
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Speaker 4: their skis a bit, thinking like we got this one.

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Speaker 4: It felt a little tortoise in the hair in the

466
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Speaker 4: first half, and then they got scared at halftime into

467
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Speaker 4: realizing they were in a shootout.

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Speaker 13: They certainly had a chance. I was trying to make

469
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Speaker 13: this point last night. I mean, everybody's just killing the defense,

470
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Speaker 13: and to fiably so. But instead of ten nothing, that

471
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Speaker 13: could have been fourteen seventeen twenty one nothing before the

472
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Speaker 13: Bengals kind of found themselves and that game would have

473
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Speaker 13: played out differently if it had been fourteen twenty one

474
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Speaker 13: to nothing. And it was self inflicted wounds on a

475
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Speaker 13: part of the Steelers, the flea flicker series where they

476
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Speaker 13: ended interceptions. Yes, can't false start on a toush push

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can you just line up and give it to Warren?

479
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Speaker 11: They were running some win four in.

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Speaker 13: He went forward on fourth and goal, fourth and one

481
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Speaker 13: from the eighteen. He wanted a touchdown, not a field goal. Bravo,

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Speaker 13: Just knock him off the ball. Yep, you're not a

483
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Speaker 13: toush push team. You're not that good at He only

484
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Speaker 13: did it well once before and then penalty field goal.

485
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Speaker 13: That kind of stuff adds up where you're playing a

486
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Speaker 13: combustible offense. And the point I was trying to make

487
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Speaker 13: before the game was the Flacco makes them a combustible offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He activates the receivers.

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Speaker 13: We've seen the old guy who knows what he's doing

490
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Speaker 13: and still has an arm.

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Speaker 3: It works. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So you put that in with t Higgins and Jamar Chase,

493
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Speaker 13: and I mean Jamar Chase had the most receptions, yards

494
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Speaker 13: and touchdown receptions in the NFL last year for a reason.

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Speaker 3: He won the Triple Crown, which he wear. Yeah. Everybody's

496
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Speaker 3: tried every adjustment there is to try. He's just better.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: It was better than Jalen Ramsey last night. But their

499
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Speaker 13: defense should have been the worst unit on the field,

500
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Speaker 13: and the Steelers didn't exploit that enough.

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Speaker 5: I think that Turner kid had a hell of a game,

502
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Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 4: Explain to me how we can get anybody else open

504
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Speaker 4: early in that game where it was like Aaron, it

505
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Speaker 4: was really the third quarter that it seemed like they

506
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Speaker 4: stifled them for a second. I think they got a

507
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Speaker 4: little too enamored with going for the deep ball there

508
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Speaker 4: with Aaron Rodgers when they should have just been eating

509
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Speaker 4: up clock and running the ball.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think he missed on the one that got intercepted, intercepted.

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Speaker 3: It was single covered punt.

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Speaker 13: He's got to throw that outside now that Rogers missed

513
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Speaker 13: his ball placement because up the sideline, the safety looking

514
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Speaker 13: at it from behind the Steelers formation. The safety was

515
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Speaker 13: on the right hash, which means he can't get.

516
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Speaker 3: To the sideline. But if you throw it to Metcalfs.

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Speaker 13: Right as he's running down the field as opposed to

518
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Speaker 13: his left, now he's in play and he was. That

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Speaker 13: one's on Rogers, Yeah, the one where Turner ripped the

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Speaker 13: ball out of Metcalf's hands.

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Speaker 3: Are you f and kidding me? That's it, that's you.

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Speaker 7: Play.

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Speaker 13: You had the ball in your They again, another single

524
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Speaker 13: covered shot. He took it. They hit it there's gonna

525
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Speaker 13: be points scored there, and that guy rips the ball

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Speaker 13: out of your hands.

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Speaker 6: He also took a shot on that play, which might

528
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Speaker 6: be the only reason that guy was able to get

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Speaker 6: it from his hands.

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Speaker 3: Can't happen. I can't happen. They never did that to

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Speaker 3: your chase.

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Speaker 13: And the other thing, the defense could not come up

533
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Speaker 13: with the turnover a turnover or the turnovers.

534
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Speaker 3: You know, they give up yards the turnovers or the.

535
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Speaker 13: Eraser, and their formula by now for how they win

536
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 13: is pretty well established.

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Speaker 3: They got to get turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Well, and they've always been a bend, but they don't break.

539
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Speaker 4: And they kept breaking and they kept breaking.

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Speaker 6: That's why I really don't love the defense being predicated

541
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Speaker 6: on the turnover, because if you come up across the

542
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Speaker 6: team that protects the ball, it looks like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Flacco was awesome last night. I'll just keep

544
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Speaker 4: saying it. He was awesome. He was really good. And

545
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Speaker 4: also they were embarrassingly bad defensively because they should have

546
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Speaker 4: never let them establish any sort of running game that

547
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Speaker 4: allowed them to be two dimensional.

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Speaker 13: Correct And if then if you have a bigger lead

549
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Speaker 13: than you had a ten to nothing, which you should

550
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Speaker 13: have and if now and if they're one dimension like

551
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Speaker 13: they should have been, I bet it wouldn't have looked

552
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Speaker 13: like that.

553
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Speaker 3: But uncle, yeah, so.

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Speaker 13: They gotta you know, maybe it's the best thing that

555
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 13: could have happened to them, in a warped kind of

556
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Speaker 13: way because they have to sit on this now for

557
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 13: a while. Yes, if if they'd have got that last

558
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Speaker 13: defensive stop and snuck out of there with a w

559
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Speaker 13: we still be talking about the same stuff, but the

560
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Speaker 13: kind of vibe would be, oh boy, we almost lost

561
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Speaker 13: that one. But we're pretty good. You know, we got

562
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Speaker 13: control of the division. Is they gotta they gotta get

563
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Speaker 13: this defense figured out and the offense. Until they do,

564
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Speaker 13: it's got great potential with Aaron Rodgers depth a receiver

565
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Speaker 13: being what.

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Speaker 6: It is, four tight end touchdowns last night. You know

567
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Speaker 6: who cares the scores, you know, but I'm saying that

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Speaker 6: that's that shows you that they do have depth, just

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Speaker 6: not at the receiver position.

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Speaker 13: Rogers wasn't perfect last night, and that's one of the

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Speaker 13: reasons why they lost.

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Speaker 3: It's down on the list.

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Speaker 5: He's down on the list, but he but they got him.

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Speaker 13: Man, he's real, Like you got to take advantage of

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Speaker 13: She's probably gonna have this guy for one year.

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Speaker 3: He gives, he gives.

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Speaker 4: He actually looked mobile last night, not you know, Lamar Jackson,

578
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Speaker 4: but you know, oh.

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Speaker 3: The one touchdown he flush left bootlegs right yeah, waits

580
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Speaker 3: waits waits John Am.

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Speaker 4: He did that on a first down throw to h

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it was John who also on

583
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Speaker 4: that one where he was just.

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Speaker 3: Running around forever running around.

585
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Speaker 4: Moved him over. But like he's got the ability, no question.

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Speaker 4: I think last night they just got a little too

587
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Speaker 4: confident too early and then allowed the shootout to happen

588
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Speaker 4: as soon as they got on that hamster wheel. Then

589
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Speaker 4: it's a matter of timing. And when you're the one

590
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Speaker 4: behind and you have to come from behind, you have

591
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Speaker 4: to have the ball last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And you know when you play the Joe Burrow Bengals,

594
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Speaker 13: you think we got to beat these guys thirty eight

595
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Speaker 13: thirty five, Well those were the Joe Burrow Bengals because

596
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Speaker 13: the Joe Flacco Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Were the same. Yes, that is remarkable. I'm still impressed.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the guy just played two games and five

599
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Speaker 6: days after joining the team ten days ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he dones for three and three tunnies come on.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna go down as one of those games that

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Speaker 4: everybody remembers because of Flacco's performance last night. Let's do

603
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Speaker 4: a quick break, well come he was brilliant, he was

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do a quick break come back, and we'll

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Speaker 4: get to all the postgames.

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Speaker 7: Sound here.

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Speaker 4: Mike pursued it with us here as we recount last

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Speaker 4: night's Thursday night loss for your Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Guy Junker joins us later in rob King and Abby.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to give short shrift to the big

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Speaker 8: This one hurts made deeply. A Is Faily, original member

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Speaker 8: of Kiss, has passed.

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Speaker 3: Swey.

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Speaker 12: Chad Tyson turns your car into US Sonic Playground a

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Speaker 6: Puff, Puff and Spin for even more ways to inform.

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Speaker 4: Of the Pittsburgh Steelers. One of two point five DVE

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Speaker 4: got flatoed last night. The team was flat, defense looked

622
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Speaker 4: like they were asleep, and offensively, I just think they

623
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Speaker 4: had too much of a split personality early in the

624
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Speaker 4: game when they should have had a killer's mentality and

625
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Speaker 4: stepped on their throat when they had the opportunity to

626
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Speaker 4: well know, was.

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Speaker 13: The fleet flicker trying to step on their throat?

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Speaker 5: Well well, I was asking this earlier, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that's even in an option of

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Speaker 4: possibilities on that play.

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Speaker 13: As I understand it, This was according to Ryan Fitzpatrick

632
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Speaker 13: at halftime, and then Charlie thought the same thing last night.

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Speaker 3: They were gonna run it, and then Rogers called.

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Speaker 13: It off because they didn't get to look they wanted

635
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Speaker 13: and everybody got the call with Greg.

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Speaker 3: Warren or Jalen Warren a war.

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Speaker 4: That seemed obvious that you know, Jalen and Aaron Rodgers

638
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Speaker 4: weren't on the same page. My question is, when the

639
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Speaker 4: defense is that bad and you are having no problem

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Speaker 4: moving the ball, why are we resorting the trickery?

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Speaker 5: Would you pull an onside kick too?

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00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 13: But again, and what they weren't supposed to it. It

644
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Speaker 13: was called initially, but they called it off. I know,

645
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Speaker 13: But why are you even calling it initially?

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Speaker 3: If Smith because you think you're gonna get a touchdown?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's getting too cute by half.

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Speaker 3: You can't say they were too conservative and then bitch

649
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Speaker 3: because they were too cute. It's one or the other.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they were too conservative.

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Speaker 13: I thought that's the point you were making, that they

652
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Speaker 13: didn't step on the gas and put them away early.

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Speaker 3: We I think we're just arguing which way you put

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Speaker 3: them away.

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Speaker 5: The reason they didn't put them away is because they.

656
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Speaker 4: Were squandering series by doing stuff like that, and they

657
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Speaker 4: had an opportunity there with a methodical drive, eating up

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Speaker 4: cloth and really demoralize them. Momentum matters, even in the

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: first half, no question.

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Speaker 13: I'm just saying, if you know, you look for certain

661
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Speaker 13: things on tape and tape they're in this. We can

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Speaker 13: do that. Then if you don't get it, you have

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Speaker 13: plan B. And if you have a pro quarterback, he's

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Speaker 13: able to ascertain whether you should do it or not.

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Speaker 13: Jalen Warren played his ass off again. He did, But

666
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Speaker 13: you can't miss that call, like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what Aaron Rodgers was asking him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: professional football. Everybody else heard it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, oh boy, frustrating night. To put it mildly, what.

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Speaker 6: Did Jalen Warren end up with on the ground, He

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Speaker 6: looked like he had. I mean, I know we had

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Speaker 6: over one hundred I.

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Speaker 3: Think bucks seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what at one point I thought he was

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Speaker 4: going to have like one hundred and buck twenty seven

676
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Speaker 4: average seven point nine per carry.

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Speaker 3: Incredible.

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Speaker 13: They ran for one hundred and forty seven yards and

679
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Speaker 13: average seven point four yards per rush. Aaron Rodgers threw

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Speaker 13: for four touchdowns and they lost the game.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. This is on the defense, no question.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Jacob, you want to throw those sound bites back up.

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Speaker 3: There, please give it at the thumbs up. I don't

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Speaker 3: see them. Okay, now they're up there, Okay.

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Speaker 13: Steelers collapse in Cincinnati was an abject failure on multiple levels.

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Speaker 13: We agree on that, but it's not who they are.

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Speaker 13: Mike Tomlin insisted.

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Speaker 14: You know, the first half, we allowed him to run

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Speaker 14: the ball too much. I think they had about one

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Speaker 14: hundred yards rushing at the half, and then we turned

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Speaker 14: the ball over a couple times, and so that just

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Speaker 14: kind of set a negative trajectory and we're fighting uphill

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Speaker 14: the rest of away. I certainly appreciate the fight, but man,

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Speaker 14: we got to be cleaner, we got to be better,

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Speaker 14: and we weren't tonight and that's life in this business.

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Speaker 14: We certainly got to learn from it, man and keep pushing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 13: It was ninety seven yards rushing in the first half

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Speaker 13: of the Bengals on nine carries, and that kind of

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Speaker 13: set the tone.

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Speaker 3: Ten to nothing.

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Speaker 13: Herbstreet's making comments such as the Cincinnati pass rush has

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Speaker 13: non existent and they're seemingly in complete control at the

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Speaker 13: outset and then let it get away. We weren't able to

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Speaker 13: build on the lead and weren't able to run and

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Speaker 13: cover with anybody, at least not anybody that was wearing

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Speaker 13: white last night.

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Speaker 4: Well, my frustration with them not you know, putting the

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Speaker 4: hammer down there in the first half wouldn't have mattered

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Speaker 4: if they didn't allow them to score at will. On defense,

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Speaker 4: they just they could not stop the Bengals at any point.

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Speaker 4: Would they have won punt last night?

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Speaker 13: They had three, but they punted the first two times

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Speaker 13: they had the football, and then they scored on seven

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Speaker 13: of eight possessions, including six in a row.

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Speaker 4: What did you think of Tomlin's punting the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: from the like midfield area, they're fourth and four.

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Speaker 3: I'd have gone.

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Speaker 5: Because you couldn't stop them, right, Yeah, yeah, I couldn't stop.

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Speaker 7: He's done that.

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Speaker 5: You know what he you know who? He did that

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Speaker 5: against Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: If this, well, that was the I'm ahead and I'm

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Speaker 13: gonna try an on side kick anyway game because at

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Speaker 13: least they'll score quick or not exactly.

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Speaker 3: If this was back then, when you could do.

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Speaker 13: That kind of thing, I'd have done it last night

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Speaker 13: after the Friarman was touched down. But now you got

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Speaker 13: to declare it, so you got to tell them it's

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Speaker 13: coming right. There's no more surprise on side, which is

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Speaker 13: a really horrifically stupid role.

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Speaker 5: I kickoffs suck.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: It's making people safer. I get that, and that's good

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Speaker 4: for the sport.

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Speaker 13: I guess how often does surprise on side come up?

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Speaker 13: Is that really saving lives.

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 13: And are the collisions really so violent when the people

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Speaker 13: are ten yards away and the ball goes eleven yards?

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Speaker 6: I think that the on side kick is completely a

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Speaker 6: different play altogether than a regular kickoff. If you're doing

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Speaker 6: an on side kick, it's basically that short range anyways

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Speaker 6: that they're trying to do with the new kickoff style.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you have to declare it to

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Speaker 3: me that takes it.

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Speaker 5: Because you have to line up, you have to line

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Speaker 5: up differently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know what I mean, you have to

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Speaker 4: declare it because you literally need to have your gunners.

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Speaker 5: Aligned with the kicker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Here's the inarguable point. In arguable point for the NFL

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Speaker 4: in the dynamic kickoffs, that point of it.

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Speaker 3: So never mind. Well, yeah, yeah, I wish it was

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Speaker 3: still a thing. Is the kickoff was fine?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't just surprise it because it would be

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Speaker 4: the kicker key to himself behind all of his gunners.

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Speaker 5: Pretty good, shit, you get it good.

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Speaker 3: Way that they line up. Now, oh my god, they

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Speaker 3: did it again.

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Speaker 4: According to the NFL, last year, in the first year

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Speaker 4: of dynamic kickoffs, a forty three percent reduction in concussions.

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Speaker 3: That's huge, according to the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's like Netflix says more people watch you know,

767
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Speaker 4: Stranger Things than any other TV.

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Speaker 5: However, who said so we do.

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Speaker 4: However, if that's even remotely true, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 4: a pretty big number.

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Speaker 3: It is, but it does suck.

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Speaker 6: But if you're if it's coming down to an on

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Speaker 6: side kick against a team like the Bungos who are

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Speaker 6: down and out and had to just go get a

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Speaker 6: quarterback and have no defense at all, you're in a

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Speaker 6: bad spot, right, Yeah, I mean they shouldn't need that

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Speaker 6: to win a game.

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Speaker 13: That's kind of how Cincinnati games play out, though, Like

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Speaker 13: the Packer game.

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Speaker 3: Flacco led them to.

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Speaker 13: Three consecutive scores in the second half of green Bay,

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Speaker 13: but they let green Bay score every time. Like, you

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Speaker 13: just got to keep scoring on those guys. They're they're

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Speaker 13: worse than your defense, Like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in theory, no doubt, and.

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Speaker 6: Statistically, and that's the way it played out last year

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Speaker 6: with Russ.

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Speaker 3: That's why like opportunities lost. Man, you you risk what

789
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Speaker 3: we saw last night. You just can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 13: You know, if they scored thirty five, you gotta score

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Speaker 13: thirty eight. If they scored thirty eight, you got to

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Speaker 13: score forty one. That's how you beat the Bengals when

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Speaker 13: they have a good quarterback, and last night.

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Speaker 5: They had they had the better quarterback, They had the

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Speaker 5: better quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Cannot turn the ball over against the Bengals. You can't

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Speaker 6: give that team extra possessions. You just can't.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and plus because you cost yourself points, right, wouldn't

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Speaker 13: do it the way the Steelers did it. Defense got

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Speaker 13: run three and thrown over.

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Speaker 3: But as t. J.

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Speaker 13: Watt explained, they had a chance. Jake, let's cut to

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Speaker 13: three here and do the TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt thing. Uh, they had a chance to save the day,

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Speaker 3: but couldn't do that either. It's not always gonna be

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Speaker 3: your night.

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Speaker 15: But you'd like to think that through all of the

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Speaker 15: training and practice and everything that we put in that

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Speaker 15: when we need to stop the most, we should be

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Speaker 15: able to get a stop.

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Speaker 3: And wasn't able tonight. And that's what I was kind

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Speaker 3: of referencing.

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Speaker 13: Uh, you know, if you want to search for silver linings,

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Speaker 13: and if you do, you got to look hard, and

815
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Speaker 13: you got to look a long time. But you know,

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Speaker 13: they the defense saved the Jets game at the end,

817
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Speaker 13: remember the Ramsey hit. Almost had a bad day, but

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Speaker 13: got the last stop and preserved the win.

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Speaker 3: Same thing against New England.

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Speaker 13: The Patriots moved up and down, but they kept knocking

821
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Speaker 13: the ball out and falling on fumbles. The Minnesota game

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Speaker 13: got close, but they got the last stop. Okay, this

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Speaker 13: time you didn't get to stop. So how about fix

824
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 13: your problems So you're maybe in this prop in this

825
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 13: same situation as often as you are where it comes

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Speaker 13: down to having to stop somebody to sneak out with

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Speaker 13: a dub.

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Speaker 5: All right, Abby, We're going to pay tribute to a

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Speaker 5: legend when we come back ace Freely. Original member of

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Speaker 5: Kiss has passed away.

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Speaker 11: It's time for.

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Speaker 16: The Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought to you by

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Speaker 16: Get it direct from the team at shop dot Steelers

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Speaker 16: dot com. Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 17: A shootout broke out in Cincinnati Thursday night between the

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Speaker 17: Steelers and Bengals. The two teams combined for sixty four

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Speaker 17: total points and for eight hundred and sixty six total

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Speaker 17: yards of offense as the Steelers were upset by Cincy

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Speaker 17: thirty three to thirty one in a game that was

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Speaker 17: dubbed the Icy Hot Bowl. Featuring two starting quarterbacks over

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Speaker 17: the age of forty for just the third time in

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Speaker 17: NFL history, it was the old timers at quarterback who

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Speaker 17: stole the show. Aaron Rodgers threw for two hundred and

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Speaker 17: forty nine yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions, while Joe

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Speaker 17: Flacco threw for three hundred and forty two yards and

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Speaker 17: three touchdowns with no interceptions. The story of the game

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Speaker 17: was no doubt the inability of the Steelers defense to

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Speaker 17: stop Cincinnati's rushing at time, which entered the game as

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Speaker 17: the worst rushing offense in the NFL, and their inability

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Speaker 17: to slow down star wide receiver Jamar Chase in any

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Speaker 17: way whatsoever, since he put up one hundred and forty

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Speaker 17: two yards on the ground as a team, one hundred

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Speaker 17: and eight of them coming from Chase Brown, who averaged

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Speaker 17: an incredible nine point eight yards per carry. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 17: was targeted a jaw dropping twenty three times by Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 17: by far the most targets the receiver has had in

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Speaker 17: the NFL this season, catching sixteen of them for one

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Speaker 17: hundred and sixty one yards in one touchdown. As the

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Speaker 17: Steelers just had no answers for the All Pro Triple

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Speaker 17: Crown winning wide receiver. I'm Tom Opraman with the Steelers Report.

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Speaker 5: Does your annual screening mammogram dv.

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Speaker 11: E Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And back to pass looking soon as bringing pressure floated

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Speaker 2: up the left sideline's complete pot and sliding down at

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Speaker 2: the five guard line as T Higgins won an alert

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Speaker 2: play by T Higgins as he catches the long pass

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Speaker 2: up the left sideline instead of waltzing in.

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Speaker 5: For easy score.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, t Higgins uh selflessly takes a knee there and

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00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: slides to a stop, ensuring the Bengals an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: kick the game winning field goal with as little time

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Speaker 4: as possible left on the clock. The Steelers did have

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Speaker 4: a shot at the hail Mary there at the end,

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Speaker 4: and hell of a throw bite Aaron Rodgers and d Key.

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Speaker 3: He knows how to throw that that hail Mary.

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Speaker 4: Four of them, right, He's got four hail Mary completions,

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Speaker 4: they said on the broadcast last night. De Kalen was

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Speaker 4: there and uh just uh, he's probably a step or

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Speaker 4: two away from getting a jump on that one. The

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Speaker 4: Bengals beat the Browns thirty three thirty one. You know

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Speaker 4: the Steelers. I'm sorry, the Bengals beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: You're calling us the Browns now.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know why, because I was just reading this

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Speaker 4: Browns thing that bad the Browns fans.

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Speaker 3: You think Steeler fans are mad?

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Speaker 5: That infuriated dude.

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Speaker 6: I've been saying this all week, like, aside from the

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Speaker 6: trade being stupid and Tomlin calling it out, which was

890
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Speaker 6: a bad look for him, you just punted on your

891
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 6: season to find out. You know, if you have anything

892
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 6: in Gabriel, Fine, great, you just pissed off all your fans.

893
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: That's what you did.

894
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: Well.

895
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: They want Stefanski fired immediately. Last night they thought was

896
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: an indictment of their offense. I thought it was an

897
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: indictment of the Steelers defense last night. Forty four to

898
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: thirty eight was the score from last season, right, so

899
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: you knew if they got some quarterback play, you're in

900
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: for a shootout again. Flacco walks in seamless from what

901
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: they were getting with Joe Burrow. He's finding Jamar Chase

902
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: te Higgins, especially Chase who set a team record. And

903
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 4: then with the game on the line and the Bengals

904
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: only needing a field goal, the Steelers defense lets Jamar

905
00:42:53,200 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: Chase run free at midfield. Nobody on him, Nobody coverage.

906
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 5: Defense, communication was a problem all night long.

907
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: I think the Browns fans are pissed because you know,

908
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 6: obviously the Browns don't have the weapons that the Bengals have,

909
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 6: but they haven't cracked twenty points this season. Joe Burrow

910
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: just threw for three hundred and forty two yards and

911
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 6: three tutties. In a game like that, that's what they're

912
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 6: livid about. They're livid just that the offense looks so inept. Yeah,

913
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 6: and then this guy who they just traded to a

914
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 6: division opponent that's teetering on the The Bengals could punt

915
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 6: on the season, they had four losses. The Ravens could

916
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 6: punt on the season. They're they have four losses or

917
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 6: five losses, and they're out with their starting quarterback hurt.

918
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 6: Nobody else is punting on the season. The Browns have

919
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: already forfeitted the season and we're six games in.

920
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 5: Well, the one I agree with you mostly.

921
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: The one pushback is they have to figure out which

922
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: of those two quarterbacks they draft did is really the

923
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: franchise guy.

924
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 5: I'll help them neither. Yeah, well neither.

925
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: You might be right about that, but they have to

926
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: double down on their mistake.

927
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 5: They do everything wrong.

928
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: Like, I still think it was a terrible look for

929
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin to complain about Flacco like that is not

930
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: your Like, no doubt, Let the Browns deal with that.

931
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 4: You have to deal with what's in front of you

932
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: right now. It's like Joey Porter complaining about the officials

933
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: last night after the game. It's like, look, man, these

934
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: are the circumstances. Nobody else was out there drawing constant

935
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: penalties or in their career have had that issue, because

936
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: Joey has that problem, right, So I thought that that

937
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: was a bad look.

938
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you the other thing.

939
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: Look, Flacco was amazing, all right, but they did get

940
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: a little help from the officials. And it was in

941
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: the left tackle jumping every single play, And at first

942
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: I thought, look at that, it's adorable.

943
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: These guys suck.

944
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: They gotta do everything they can to glean a little

945
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: bit of an advantage. Let him have half a step,

946
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: What do I care? But then they started whopping her

947
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: ass and I'm like, all right, start calling that.

948
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: Start calling that. What are you guys doing.

949
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: Flaco just had like the doc Elis acid game, like

950
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: he was It's like an acid game because it was

951
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 6: like he was seeing into the future and the future

952
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: he was just seeing slants that were wide open.

953
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 9: Yeah.

954
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 8: No, I was watching it on Prime and at the

955
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 8: beginning of the game, like Flaco's a unicorn, Flacco is

956
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 8: this beautiful spiral Flacco and I just kept being.

957
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: Like, shut up, shut up. And by the end of

958
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 5: the game, I'm like.

959
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he did throw an unbelievable spiral. They

960
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: were dropping balls and showing him in his low motion.

961
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: You're like, how did you drop that? That was a

962
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: perfect throw. I cannot believe the game that Joe Flacco had.

963
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: I had four hundred yards passing. If they catch the

964
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 6: balls that he threw perfectly to them, no question.

965
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: I was completely frustrated by the Steelers' performance, But you

966
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 4: gotta take a step back and just marvel at what

967
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco did last night, because look.

968
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 6: In the mirror and figure out what the hell you

969
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: didn't do last night. Well, he covered the receivers and

970
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 6: get a rush up the field.

971
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: Hey man, they had good coverage sometimes and he was

972
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: dropping it in there. I mean also, Jamar Chase made

973
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: a couple of you know, battle catches that were just insane.

974
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: But the prettiest throw of the night was the one

975
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: over top.

976
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 6: To the tight end. Would you call him delicioso? Yeah,

977
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 6: I don't know what the hell wasna.

978
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: That was just an incredibly precise throw from a guy

979
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: who just joined the team ten days ago. And Kirk

980
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: Karbstreet had made a point of this in the broadcast.

981
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 4: No hard it is to get rhythm with receivers that

982
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 4: is not something that is just innate.

983
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: Well, we've been.

984
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: Talking about it all week, saying that Aaron Rodgers and

985
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 6: these guys are really starting to develop that chemistry it

986
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: took time to develop.

987
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Well, tell that to Flacco.

988
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 4: Flaco had one of those game. People will be talking

989
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: about that Flacco game for.

990
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: Years and again.

991
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 8: But you know, is Flacco's ability to do that because

992
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 8: of the Steelers defensive ineptitude You know what I mean?

993
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 8: Because you were talking about like, he's not even sure

994
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 8: what the play is, but he's going to Chase.

995
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 5: And he's going to Higgins and he's having success.

996
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: I think the talent.

997
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 6: Differential, like the discrepancy between how good Chase and t

998
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: Higgins are to how good the corners are that the

999
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 6: Steelers have. I mean, it's it's a lot wider than

1000
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 6: we thought it was.

1001
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to talk a whole lot about this,

1002
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: but we do have to get to some business in

1003
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 4: the classic rock world because a giant has fallen.

1004
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: Abby News.

1005
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: This hour brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems.

1006
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 8: So why Basement Keystone Basementsystems dot com And this one

1007
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 8: hurts me deeply, Jacob, do me a favor, and just

1008
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 8: while we're talking about this story, I want you to

1009
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 8: rip this solo. This was from Tokyo nineteen seventy seven

1010
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 8: and it is legendary. Ace Freely, one of the original

1011
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 8: members of Kiss, whose guitar playing influenced a generation of musicians,

1012
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 8: has died at the age of seventy four. So back

1013
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 8: on October the sixth, and this story kind of got

1014
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 8: buried because this was like right around the time when

1015
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 8: Geene Simmons got into his car accident then where he

1016
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 8: crossed the traffic and everybody was paying attention to that.

1017
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 8: Ace Freeley had canceled the rest of his tour after

1018
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 8: he had.

1019
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 5: A fall in his studio and he was just here.

1020
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: He was just here.

1021
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 8: Mid September at the craft House or actually take the

1022
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 8: back it was at Jurgals. Actually, I just with a

1023
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 8: band last weekend that played with him, and we were

1024
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 8: talking about the Ace Fairly show and they were like,

1025
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 8: oh my god, we got to meet Ace and it

1026
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 8: was like incredible and all that stuff.

1027
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 5: So when he had this fall in the.

1028
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 8: Studio, apparently that had resulted in a brain bleed, and

1029
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 8: so he had canceled all of these tour dates and

1030
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 8: he had been on a ventilator, and so he was

1031
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 8: at a Morristown hospital in Morristown, New Jersey, and his

1032
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 8: family ultimately had to make that difficult decision to take

1033
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 8: him off of life support.

1034
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 11: There.

1035
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 8: So his family issued a statement saying that they were

1036
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: devastated and heartbroken, and they said that they were fortunate

1037
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 8: enough to have those final moments with him, surround him

1038
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 8: with love and give him those final words, those thoughts,

1039
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 8: and those prayers. And it also sounds like Peter Chris

1040
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 8: was there with him as well in those final moments.

1041
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 8: As much as you know, Gene and Paul did not

1042
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 8: have the best relationship.

1043
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 5: Jean hates him.

1044
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 8: They just never had the same ethos ever well, because

1045
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 8: Ace and Peter were there for the rock and roll

1046
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 8: and for the party, and and Gene and Paul loved

1047
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 8: being in a rock and roll band, but they were

1048
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 8: the business.

1049
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 5: Bring Yeah. But listen to him solo in there, Cup

1050
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 5: crank that up.

1051
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 18: And this is a defence every guitar player that loves Ace,

1052
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 18: So like that right there when you hear him doing

1053
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 18: stuff like that, which kind of like just from like

1054
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 18: the audit, you know, the audio standpoint, you're kind of

1055
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 18: like Oh, he's not doing anything.

1056
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 8: It's like, no, there's a bomb in the middle of

1057
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 8: his pickup that's going off right now.

1058
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 5: There's smoke coming out of the guitar. There's Roman candles

1059
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: shooting out of it, like, and.

1060
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: He's like holding it and trying not to get it

1061
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: in his face and like he's squirming around exactly.

1062
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 19: And listen, that's the kind of mentality too that made

1063
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 19: him just dangerous enough of a person, Yeah, to be

1064
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 19: wild enough.

1065
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 8: To make him somebody you couldn't almost be in a bandwiss.

1066
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 6: Where did he get Like, did anybody ever interview him

1067
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: and ask him where he came up with that or what?

1068
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: Like was he at the circus one year.

1069
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: Endlessly of July.

1070
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 8: I don't know what the answer to that was, other

1071
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 8: than he's a little loose in the head.

1072
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: Where he came up with the pyro mean like smoking,

1073
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: So I think that that was very much a part

1074
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: of like the Kiss stage but in his guitar. Oh,

1075
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 4: those guys, I mean, look, they would have said everything

1076
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: on fire. I mean, Paul set his chest hair on

1077
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 4: fire if he could on stage.

1078
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, they all they all did come up with

1079
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 8: their individual stick right in Kiss which was cool.

1080
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 5: Had the blood Jean had the blood.

1081
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 8: Paul like wanted to do like you know, it's going

1082
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 8: out into the audience and being the star.

1083
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 5: Peter Chris kind of always said that, you.

1084
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: Know, he was again on the more darrelict side of

1085
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 8: things in his life.

1086
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: So he always said he had nine lives, which is

1087
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 5: why he wanted to be a cat. I'm gett you.

1088
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 8: And Ace Railey always said that he was so out

1089
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 8: of his mind. He was from outer space yeast to.

1090
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 20: Yes to do this thing too, where he that that

1091
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 20: thing was.

1092
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 5: I always stole like when I was learning how to play.

1093
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 8: And I always wanted to play well, yeah, because I

1094
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 8: always wanted to play a less Paul because of Ace Railey,

1095
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 8: and I would always take.

1096
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: Off you know, you roll off the rhythm pick up

1097
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 5: so that it's dead and then you.

1098
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 8: Just go back and forth between the pickups, and like

1099
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 8: when I'm sixteen years old, I'm like, look, guys, nobody

1100
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 8: knows how to do this yaxpt for me because I

1101
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 8: don't know if he has.

1102
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: That's one of those so that it's like, I know,

1103
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 4: it becomes like it becomes a cliche.

1104
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: It does, but.

1105
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: It's also cool. It's so cool. Yeah, like doing a

1106
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 5: pick slide, you know what I mean, It's cool, absolutely, yeah.

1107
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 5: I always enjoyed what.

1108
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: A character he was.

1109
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but great job by you just describing him in

1110
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: his style there, because there he's a unique guy and

1111
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: maybe his most important contribution was the rock and roll

1112
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: guitar players he inspired.

1113
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 8: I think that is worth noting because like there's something

1114
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 8: about like Kiss in general becomes the butt of a

1115
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 8: lot of jokes in rock and roll.

1116
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: I am part of.

1117
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 8: That because like I loved them so much. I squeeze

1118
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 8: the rabbit like way too hard, so much. But like

1119
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 8: I always make fun of them, But what did you.

1120
00:53:59,440 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: Do to Kiss?

1121
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: I feel like I have the right to in the

1122
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 5: way like where you make fun of your.

1123
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 8: Siblings but you don't want anybody else making fun of them.

1124
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 8: But at the same time, like Kiss gets made fun

1125
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 8: of a lot from maybe not being you know enough

1126
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 8: of like you know, not being musically talented enough. What

1127
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 8: you just heard there and again I pulled that guitar

1128
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 8: solo specifically, that's nineteen seventy seven. I would say, like

1129
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 8: for Ace freely specifically, maybe some of the height of

1130
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 8: his powers in terms of like where he was really

1131
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 8: firing on all cylinders.

1132
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 5: It was like post kiss Alive.

1133
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 8: Ye, some of his best guitar work, but that would

1134
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 8: have been where he was inspiring guys like Mike McCready

1135
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 8: from Pearl Jam, Tom Morello, John five Dime Bag, Daryl

1136
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 8: like the guys.

1137
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 3: That and I've had a big post about him.

1138
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 8: Huge posts, and like they became friends and like these

1139
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 8: are guys that were shreaders, so they see it.

1140
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: Raney worshiped him. Oh, McCready worshiped him.

1141
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: Flee, Yeah, and all Pearl Jam doesn't happen without aast Freeley,

1142
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: you know, not the way.

1143
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 5: That we know it.

1144
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 8: No, And you sent me, uh, Mike McCready's post on

1145
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 8: Ace that he talked about you know, even you listen

1146
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 8: to a live from Pearl Jam and we talked about this,

1147
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 8: I think on the show once before we're there, Like

1148
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 8: there's a solo in Alive that uses Ace's solo from

1149
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 8: Kisses She as the template.

1150
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 5: Like there's a complete riff.

1151
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 8: He just lifted a yeah, so you know he also

1152
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 8: sweezed the rabbit too hard, which is like, you know,

1153
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 8: I love that, but it is there's so many people

1154
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 8: that have come out and said they would not be

1155
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 8: a guitar player without East Freeley.

1156
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: So regardless of.

1157
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 4: Post last night, James Kina, Yeah, he posted a picture

1158
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: of him in like grade school wearing the ACE makeup.

1159
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 5: I have one as I but like.

1160
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 3: What you you went make up to? Shayler?

1161
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, all right, Abby, you're gonna have to

1162
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 4: post that. Absolutely and let's not forget this absolute vital.

1163
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: Didn't want to record it. Andy Kramer made him do it.

1164
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: Out of all of those solo records or the whatever

1165
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 4: you call those.

1166
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 3: Records, the four of them did.

1167
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: Aces is the best the Steelers last night took a deuce.

1168
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: The defense was pretty deep, pretty bad. Joe Flacco was amazing.

1169
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 4: Mike Persuda on last night's thirty three to thirty one

1170
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: loss to the Bengals. Mike Tomlin loses again on Thursday night.

1171
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: He's terrible.

1172
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: He's over on the road.

1173
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: And that was a division game where they could have

1174
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 4: really made some hay and got some distance between them

1175
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: and the rest of the pack.

1176
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 5: Alas it's the AFC North, it's always gonna be like this.

1177
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: You think one team's gonna away with.

1178
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: It, No, Nope, doesn't happen.

1179
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: That white out. I didn't even understand why they're doing

1180
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: a white out there? Why do the Bengals. Do you

1181
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: associate the Bengals with white No, that would be like

1182
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: the Steelers doing a white out.

1183
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 5: I don't even understand it.

1184
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: They needed something, they don't have anything, and we.

1185
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: Had an opportunity, like we had them so quiet that

1186
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: first drive. Aaron Rodgers drove him right down, bump touchdowns

1187
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: like throw a dot to de kaelin oh yeah on

1188
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: the third down, got that crowd right up, and then

1189
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: the touchdown passed to John who was like, oh dude,

1190
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: this is gonna be an easy night. And the crowd

1191
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: was out of it and Flacco brought them back. O.

1192
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: Maybe got your full sports report and we come back

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Speaker 4: here on DV.

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Speaker 11: I love that song and haven't heard it forever.

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00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 12: Michelle is always open to suggestions. Sweet Days at.

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Speaker 11: Noon, you build the menu in the electric lunch.

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Speaker 9: Good song man, it's a great.

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,760
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Speaker 4: It just sucks every it's just every in between commercial break,

1202
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: we're just bitching.

1203
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 6: Now we're talking about ways we'd prefer to lose.

1204
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like the best way to take an out,

1205
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, I'll pull the curtain back a little bit.

1206
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 13: One of the reasons they lost the Seattle game was

1207
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 13: Jackson Smith the jig but got deep on Jalen Ramsey.

1208
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: He had great coverage, He's one of the best receivers

1209
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: in the game.

1210
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: And they made a great play when they.

1211
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 5: Had to make it away from defending that.

1212
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd rather see that than the guy who's caught

1213
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 13: one hundred and seventeen passes on one hundred and.

1214
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: Thirty one targets running free across the middle.

1215
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: With the game on the line. I have no idea. Yeah,

1216
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: please don't be confused. Mike's not too much sask I

1217
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: don't think so.

1218
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: Addison running wild and free.

1219
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 5: They both those cases.

1220
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you rather see Like if he beats one guy, Okay,

1221
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: he beat the guy, but you put a guy on him.

1222
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: Like also, zone's zone defenses, they're running these awesome receivers

1223
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: dice you when you have Flacco and that guy and

1224
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: they're like, you're gonna give me a little bit of

1225
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: a window completion. Well, they gave him more than a window.

1226
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: They opened a door, a side of the house fell

1227
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 4: down for them.

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 6: Well, this is why I've had a problem, you know,

1230
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 6: with Peyton Wilson, is that when they run those zones,

1231
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 6: it seems like he is absolutely never in a position.

1232
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: To make the play.

1233
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 6: He's just fast enough to make the tackle after the

1234
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 6: guy has had the first down by five yards.

1235
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 13: Well, on the tight end touchdown for the Bengals last

1236
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 13: night looked a whole lot like the Seattle tight end

1237
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 13: touchdown where Patrick Queen kind of got caught in between. Yeah,

1238
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 13: and it's between Queen and this. I think it was

1239
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 13: Thornhill last night. I forget who it was in the

1240
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 13: Seahawks game, but the safety and linebacker aren't in concert

1241
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 13: in their covers and it's oh, there he is.

1242
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: Boom like Flecko was very good last night. Those two

1243
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: receivers are world class. But it shouldn't have been that easy. No,

1244
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: it shouldn't have been that easy for them.

1245
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: Limitless drug.

1246
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 22: Yes, dude, you see him after the game. He actually

1247
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 22: looked younger after the game than before the game. That

1248
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 22: might have been the substance. Flackouts unbelievable, a lot of

1249
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 22: stuff that brought.

1250
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 13: A lot of stuff last night did the Steelers continue

1251
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 13: not to solve. If there was one play that defined

1252
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 13: Bengals thirty three, Steelers thirty one last night in Cincinnati,

1253
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 13: it was this one, at least from my humble perspective,

1254
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 13: third and four from the Bengals thirty nine yard line,

1255
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 13: late third quarter and the Bengals leading twenty to seventeen.

1256
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 13: That was the one on which quarterback Joe Flacco and

1257
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 13: wide receiver Andre Josevash, a heptathlete from Princeton, were better

1258
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 13: than cornerback Darius Slay and the Steelers defense. One of

1259
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 13: many plays on which the Bengals and Flacco were better

1260
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 13: than the Steelers defense.

1261
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: Here's Mike Tomlin.

1262
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 14: We we you know, we played these guys a bunch.

1263
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 14: We double teamed them some, we double teamed five some.

1264
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 14: It's a mix of mixes required. They got depth and talent.

1265
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 14: Just like the one play eighty made down the middle.

1266
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 14: We were double them both and they were one on

1267
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 14: one in that circumstance, and so you know, as many

1268
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 14: way as you can analyze it, but the bottom line

1269
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 14: is they made more plays than we did, and that was.

1270
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 13: They had Chase doubled, they had Higgins doubled, and Darius

1271
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 13: Slayson pressed coverage on Yoshivash. There's no deep safety and

1272
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 13: he just gets beat off the line of scrimmage and flat.

1273
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: Those season just threw it out, perfect throw.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

1275
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: They tried a lot of stuff. None of it worked.

1276
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: I think they tried too much stuff. Maybe maybe simplify it.

1277
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 13: What they didn't try was slam the door on the

1278
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 13: run and make them uncomfortable in the passing game.

1279
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: Well, and to his crap sound, to his credit, Cam

1280
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: Hayward said, this is on the defensive line. You know,

1281
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: we have to help the secondary out. And to a point,

1282
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: he's correct, to a huge point, he's correct.

1283
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, the exact quote is it's not the secondary.

1284
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 13: That's a cop out the front line. We got to

1285
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 13: control the line of scrimmage a lot better. I'm pissed

1286
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 13: off we didn't take care of our job. They were

1287
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 13: last in rushing and the way we gave it up

1288
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 13: that takes the cake.

1289
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

1290
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 13: And I think Hayward was speaking in response, I'm guessing

1291
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 13: to some of the comments from the defensive backs. Jalen

1292
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 13: Ramsey in particular, Joey Porter had a little issue with

1293
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 13: the officiating.

1294
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: He's gonna get an on the Ramsey said, no, it

1295
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: was not the officiating.

1296
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 11: Don't worry about that.

1297
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 15: We had to play a better starting with myself in

1298
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 15: the opportunity presents you. So the best part of the game.

1299
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: Receivers better superstars in the league.

1300
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 15: You know that they get away right then? Is what

1301
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 15: he did is ex play how to play the game.

1302
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 15: You got to execute the team to be with the

1303
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 15: oportunity to exe.

1304
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 5: It sounds like he's talking right to Joey Porter Junior.

1305
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 3: There.

1306
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 6: Love the leadership, love the accountability. Yeah, still gonna make

1307
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 6: the play.

1308
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 4: Keep waiting for him to have this personality blow up,

1309
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: you know, Jalen Ramsey always has that reputation that he's

1310
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 4: going to start being the selfish guy. Like both him

1311
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: and Rodgers this year have been acting counter to the

1312
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: perception coming in m.

1313
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, and and both have been really good. Ramsey last

1314
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 13: night was not good enough.

1315
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 6: I just had a couple of lapses this year where

1316
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 6: he's he's really gotten beat for touchdowns in a few games.

1317
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Speaker 3: Two of them Seattle and last night on game winning drives. Essentially.

1318
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, the Seattle on they were ahead, but it kind

1319
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 13: of put the game away. It set him up to

1320
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 13: deny the Steelers a chance to steal it late, and

1321
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 13: you know, Tom meant there there was fight in terms

1322
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 13: of they did give up on the game, and you know,

1323
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 13: they found a way to drag themselves back in it

1324
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 13: and even take the lead late, but they just could

1325
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 13: not deliver. And you knew Cincinnati, that was the Alamo

1326
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 13: game for the Bengals, right. They didn't think they were

1327
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 13: out of it at two and four, as they should

1328
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 13: have thought. They're not out of it at two and four,

1329
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 13: particularly when you're playing the first place team, you're at home.

1330
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 13: That was last night. The Bengals were going to make

1331
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 13: a stand. That was do or die for them for

1332
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 13: this season.

1333
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it very much felt like they saw like

1334
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 4: their season potential. The door was slamming shut on it,

1335
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 4: and after one half of football, the crowd was in

1336
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: it and that door was wide open again. And what

1337
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: they're looking at is their season is being saved. And

1338
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers are like two AFC North games in a

1339
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: row in four days, and you know, we've blown coverages

1340
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: and offensive you know, misques.

1341
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: The stakes that are avoidable totally, you know.

1342
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: And so I think going into that second half, they

1343
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: had a very you know, big uphill battle. I mean

1344
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: the Bengals were favored in the second half. They were

1345
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 4: giving five and a half points going into the second

1346
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: half five and a half. Anybody jump on that. For

1347
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: the Bengals you would have lost. But I mean, I

1348
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 4: mean for the Steelers and a half. No, I didn't,

1349
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 4: but I just thought, like, yeah, that's how it looks

1350
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 4: like it's going. It looked like it might have been

1351
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 4: a Bengals blowout. So to the Steelers' credit, they did

1352
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 4: make it a game. But when you're in that shootout,

1353
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 4: like we said earlier, Mike, you gotta have the ball last.

1354
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 13: And you can't blink. You can't miss opportunities. In particularly,

1355
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 13: they did that in the first half. The time first half,

1356
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 13: they should have had more than ten points. They should

1357
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 13: have had significantly more than ten points. Yeah, and that

1358
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 13: would have made it a different game.

1359
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: Also, fifty six straight games Tomlins had seven points or

1360
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: less in the first quarter.

1361
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 13: That seems like a lot, but they've also played with

1362
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 13: the lead a lot this year, so they do pretty

1363
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 13: well in the second quarter. Got another first drive touchdown,

1364
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 13: You got to keep building second touchdown, you don't. You

1365
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 13: don't have enough points against these guys, and you know,

1366
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 13: they were gonna give everything they had to give last night.

1367
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 13: The Steelers had to match that in terms of execution

1368
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 13: and intensity, and the desperation failed out great work, and

1369
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 13: they failed miserably in all three. Is that a Thursday

1370
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 13: night road thing coming off of Cleveland thing?

1371
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 6: They got to sell their bugaboos come to find them? No,

1372
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 6: I mean they's so bad. Tom One is so bad

1373
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 6: on Thursday night road Division games. Even Rogers can't fix it.

1374
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: And Rogers is usually an ATM machine on Thursday nights.

1375
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 13: And he was really good last night, although not they

1376
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 13: almost needed it to be part of a little too

1377
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 13: generous way played game. Cincinnati the ball twice.

1378
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: They needed him to be perfect if they were going

1379
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: to win that game last night, But they should have

1380
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: never been in a position where he needed to be

1381
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 4: perfect too.

1382
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: And I just I give him one interception.

1383
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 13: The other one, Yeah, that's a completed pass against one

1384
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 13: on one coverage, and so you don't even chalk that

1385
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 13: up to that being and just an absolutely ridiculous play

1386
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 13: by the defender. If it's Ronni a Lot against Roman Wilson, Yeah,

1387
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 13: if it's Megatron against the six foot guy.

1388
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 5: No, all right, Top plays of the game wrong.

1389
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: How much I pay DK Metcalf said eight.

1390
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 5: For that ABB you'll have more. On the passing of

1391
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 5: a legend.

1392
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 8: Ace Freely has passed away at the age of seventy four.

1393
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: Well, you pointed a bilk that Craig Gas is going

1394
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: to have to change his whole act.

1395
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: Gott to redo his whole special.

1396
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 5: You can do a whole special on the legacy.

1397
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 3: I already got it in the can. He's gonna go

1398
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: back and Steelers got it.

1399
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 5: Bud Light's great in the can.

1400
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,200
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1401
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Speaker 4: Ricky D's and enjoy three fifty bud Light bottles during

1403
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 4: all Steelers games.

1404
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,360
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1405
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 12: Wherever you're driving. DVE has everything you need for the drive.

1406
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,120
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1407
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1408
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1409
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Speaker 3: Look.

1410
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 12: There's a road sign up ahead, it says Chad Tyson.

1411
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 12: Afternoons on DVE.

1412
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 4: It said, all right, it's your radio home of the

1413
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 4: Pittsford Steelers one on two point five dve Bengals take

1414
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 4: down the Steelers last night. Thirty three thirty one, death,

1415
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 4: taxes and Mike Tomlin losing on Thursday night. These things

1416
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 4: are guarantees. Well, it feels like you can at least

1417
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 4: get an extension.

1418
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 9: Lay.

1419
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 13: I know this because yesterday was tax take for me.

1420
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 13: Oh okay, there you go, October fifteenth.

1421
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and at least when you're dead, you're dead, you

1422
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like the pain and suffering is over.

1423
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco was left, were dead and the Bengals season

1424
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 4: on the break.

1425
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: Hell might be the Steelers defensive tape from last night.

1426
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 4: Great top five plays of the game. This one is

1427
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: not terribly fun to go through, but look it looked good.

1428
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 3: Right off the bat.

1429
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 4: Ten minutes and forty nine left in the first quarter.

1430
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers dancing around, taking.

1431
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: His time, and he finds Johnny Rogers.

1432
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: Back to pass, looking pump picks to the left, now

1433
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: rolling to the left.

1434
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: Now you'll roll back to the right. All kinds of

1435
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: room out there, surveying looking throws towards the end zone.

1436
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: Touchdown, John hu spit Pittsburgh Steelers go up as Rogers

1437
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: throws up bullet to John Hu Smith for the Pittsburgh

1438
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: Steelers touchdown.

1439
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 7: And that was.

1440
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 13: Third and six from the Bengals ten three tight end set.

1441
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 13: So you wanted to go didn't have Calvin Austin, You're

1442
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 13: gonna have a third number two receiver. Well you got

1443
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 13: three tight ends. They use them, they can score two.

1444
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 13: But my notes say flush left, flush right all day.

1445
01:09:55,479 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 5: TD later in the and I believe this is the

1446
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 5: second quarter.

1447
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 4: You know, when DK Metcalf has the ball in his hands,

1448
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 4: you don't think anyone's just gonna take it from a mic.

1449
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: You don't, You really don't.

1450
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: But Turner with the huge play here defensively, that really

1451
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 4: killed the momentum of the Steelers because if they're able

1452
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 4: to go in and score there, it's a different ballgame.

1453
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 4: In the first half, and they just kept letting the

1454
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 4: Bengals make plays like this.

1455
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 2: Rogers gets a snack back to pass, looking left, throws

1456
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: and it is complete to Metcalf, who tumbles out abound.

1457
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: No wait a minute, DJ Turner comes. He thinks he

1458
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: has an interception.

1459
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: Because right and knee is down with possession of the ball,

1460
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: ball still juggling, right and knee is down in the crowd.

1461
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: Here thinks he's got an interception. I think he pulled

1462
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: it away from Metcalf after a current discussion.

1463
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: The ruling on the field is an interception by Cincinnati

1464
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: first round.

1465
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 13: You know, that's second thirteen for the Bengals forty four.

1466
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 13: You're gonna get some points here, and that was a

1467
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 13: fairly deep throw and instead the Bengals got on a

1468
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 13: kick a field. Well, now you're down seven at the

1469
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 13: half instead of leading going into half.

1470
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 3: Times just potentially a ten point swing.

1471
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, you can't have these swings when you're gonna give

1472
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 13: up points. You can't give up points when you're gonna

1473
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 13: give up points. Well, right, oh, it makes sense.

1474
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 5: It makes a lot of sense.

1475
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: At number three.

1476
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't just Higgins and Chase last night.

1477
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 4: Chase so much Chase Chase Brown in the backfield had

1478
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 4: way too much room to run after previously bringing up

1479
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 4: the Caboose in the league in yards per average per game.

1480
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: But Flacco, he dialed around the or he threw it

1481
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 4: around the dial a little bit there, and maybe he's

1482
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: prettiest passive the night. A thirty seven yard or over

1483
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 4: the top to Andre aoshbash by gosh Oshkosh gosh Y Yoshavash.

1484
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 3: It starts with Deny, what wouldn't you serbs? You're crazy?

1485
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: I think he's Greek whatever, he's a heptathlete.

1486
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: Number three gets a snap back to pass pressure coming

1487
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: floats deep down the middle of the field, caught by Yoshibah.

1488
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: He's tackled by.

1489
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: Sleigh, but not until he gets inside the twenty five

1490
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: yard line of the Steelers.

1491
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Perfect throw by Flaco.

1492
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: And Yostash, who's had some drops patches this one, and

1493
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: it's a first down deep in Steelers territory.

1494
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: After a thirty seven yard game.

1495
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 5: That's a backbreaker right there.

1496
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 13: You know they're just crawling back down three and now

1497
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 13: it's ten points early in the fourth quarter.

1498
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: After the next couple of plays, So what do you

1499
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: gotta do? You gotta score quick.

1500
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 4: Friar Moose comes out of the darkness retreat that he's

1501
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: been in. Aaron Rodgers finds him not once but twice

1502
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 4: in this second one put the Steelers ahead a sixty

1503
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 4: eight yard touchdowns.

1504
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 5: Your second play of the game.

1505
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: Rogers gets a snap back pressure coming elude it fire

1506
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: sound field Cakye, fireboat tire.

1507
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: Mos crazy up the left sideline the twenty.

1508
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 22: The ten the five touchdown fire moove, wanna play sixty

1509
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 22: eight yards Rogers with.

1510
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 8: The late magic?

1511
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 5: How am a kinger on the call?

1512
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: There? Man?

1513
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 5: It means so for love.

1514
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: We matched the moment. Yeah, we found mooth.

1515
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 6: He's off the milk carton and into the end zone twice.

1516
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: But did they score too quick? Mike to twenty one remains,

1517
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 3: the answer is yes, Well, especially if you're gonna let

1518
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase just run around and go.

1519
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 5: Look at me, look at me, I'm open. Throw it

1520
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 5: to yep, throw it to me.

1521
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1522
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 6: Oh he didn't even have to ask. I mean Flacco

1523
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 6: did that twenty three times.

1524
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 4: And then three times he turned it to uh t

1525
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 4: higgins side of the field for what would be your

1526
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 4: number one play of the game.

1527
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: Because this is a.

1528
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 4: Backbreaker, and though Mike disagrees with it, I think this

1529
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 4: is just some real smart football t Higgins because if

1530
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: he walks into the end zone here, you're giving Aaron

1531
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 4: Rodgers a chance to come back and score a touchdown.

1532
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 5: Instead, they bleed the clock.

1533
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: For sure, you're going to make the field goal.

1534
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 4: T Higgins gets passed Jalen Ramsey for what would essentially

1535
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 4: seal the game and back to pass looking soon is.

1536
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: Bringing pressure, float it up the left sideline, complete cut

1537
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: and sliding down at the five yard line.

1538
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: Is T Higgins. What an alert play by T.

1539
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: Higgins as he catches the long pass up the left

1540
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: sideline instead of waltzing.

1541
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: In for the easy score.

1542
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 5: Bengals thirty three Steelers thirty one.

1543
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 4: Steelers still atop the AFC North at four and two,

1544
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 4: the Bengals just behind them three and four.

1545
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: Now I got life.

1546
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: Ten days off for the Steelers and then facing Aaron

1547
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 4: Rodgers former team, the Green Bay Packers, another primetime game,

1548
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 4: a Sunday night football game on that one.

1549
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, they dropped to third in the AFC playoff standings.

1550
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 5: It was an avoidable loss. That's what pisces me off

1551
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 5: about this.

1552
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 6: But probably more representative of where they actually are.

1553
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: Well, I think we were talking about that earlier Bill.

1554
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 4: It's like, I think what's making me so angry is

1555
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 4: we're not as good as I was hoping.

1556
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 13: Well, I think I think we find out in the

1557
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 13: next three weeks.

1558
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Green Bay, BI, Green Bay, Indy. Here at

1559
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 6: the Chargers.

1560
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 5: All right, we'll have guy Jonker eight forty five robcounts.

1561
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: You get on the other side, of that. You're more

1562
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: than halfway through the season.

1563
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, and now you are what you are and what

1564
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 13: do you got against three pretty good football teams?

1565
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: Rob King Power hour of Steeler Talk coming up in

1566
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 4: the nine o'clock hour, and Abby's got your full news

1567
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: and a remembrance when we come back.

1568
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 5: Yes, legend Ace Frehelely has passed away.

1569
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: Look who's here. It's the nineties.

1570
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: That's all you had to say.

1571
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 16: While you were buying dot comstocks, we were playing the

1572
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 16: songs that defined the decade. Yeah, and we feature them

1573
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 16: during this smells like nineties Saturday.

1574
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 5: You know they say the same age on.

1575
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 3: One O two point five dve.

1576
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 11: There's the d.

1577
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: Turn and gifted Brown straight up the middle, a huge hole, cuts.

1578
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: Back to the right, spins off attacker across the forty

1579
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: to forty five angler with the right sideline still on

1580
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: its feet inside the Steelers forty yard line and down

1581
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: close to the thirty.

1582
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:45,480
Speaker 4: Nine Steelers Let Chase Brown run rampant. Last night, the

1583
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: guy who was at the bottom of the league for

1584
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 4: the team that was in the bottom of the league

1585
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: in rushing made the Steelers defense look like absolute mush

1586
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 4: last night.

1587
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 6: Just he's out there like Ricky Waters.

1588
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 5: I told that's funny, he said. I told Mike he

1589
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: looked like Eric Dickerson.

1590
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 3: Running wild and free, like huge.

1591
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 5: Holes, just absolute huge holes.

1592
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: Gaps ran their pad level wasn't where he should it was.

1593
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 4: It was just a real subport subpar effort last night defensively,

1594
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: and Cam Hayward blamed the defensive line play last night,

1595
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 4: And where was t J Watt all night?

1596
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 6: Absince had a had a half a sack early, a

1597
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 6: sack late, but not enough, not enough in between.

1598
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 5: You need a full sack.

1599
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 3: He needed a full sack.

1600
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 6: No herbig Yeah, nah, I didn't see him much last night.

1601
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: H Smith?

1602
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 4: And who can blame high Smith for running right past

1603
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 4: Flacco on that option read there because you'd never think

1604
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: Flacco is going to run the ball. I mean Flacco

1605
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 4: didn't think Flacco was going to run the ball. According

1606
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 4: to him, that dude will not die. Unbelievable. He took

1607
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 4: his victory lap after the game, and he was on

1608
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 4: Sports Center saying, you know what, there was one good

1609
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 4: thing about this in addition that just the win and

1610
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 4: showing that he still had it.

1611
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 5: He best at Aaron Rodgers.

1612
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 16: Finally, how much fun was it to be starring in

1613
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 16: the role that you played in this incredible football game.

1614
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 23: Man, it was a lot of fun to go against

1615
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 23: Aaron today and the Steelers again. I mean, I've played

1616
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 23: them so much, They're such a familiar foe. I told

1617
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 23: Aaron after the game, I don't think I've ever beat

1618
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 23: him head to head, So that was also a lot

1619
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 23: of fun for me to actually be able to get

1620
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 23: that done today.

1621
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he did. I can't believe he won the

1622
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: Icy Hot Bowl.

1623
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 5: You know what I told you, guys in one of

1624
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 5: the breaks. I did not expect these two guys to

1625
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 5: put up sixty four.

1626
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 6: No, they both looked sixty four at certain times.

1627
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 4: Of this season, and if we didn't have any blood

1628
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 4: in the game, that would have been so fun to watch.

1629
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 4: I mean, the rest of America got to watch that

1630
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 4: game and just enjoy the entertainment factor of those two

1631
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 4: grizzly veterans getting it done out there.

1632
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: And instead, you know, we had to live and die

1633
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 3: with every play.

1634
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, though, the people that are

1635
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 6: more pissed off than Steeler fans this morning are Browns fans.

1636
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 6: They are Brown's Talk Radio is on fire this week.

1637
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 3: On Fire.

1638
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rizzo almost had an aneurysm on the air up

1639
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, And.

1640
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 3: I understand why it's maddening. Can it has to be.

1641
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 4: Can a coach get fired from another team winning, because

1642
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 4: it feels like Stefanski might get fired after Flaco one.

1643
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: You got a bad GM too. What the hell are

1644
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 3: they doing?

1645
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 4: I just think that the owner is the Geppeto pulling

1646
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: all the puppet springs up puppet strings up there, and

1647
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 4: he had his eye on this new stadium more than

1648
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 4: anything and is not concerned about the product on the

1649
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: field right now.

1650
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 3: It's almost nutting esque what he is doing up there.

1651
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 6: Yes, because what they're doing is they are in a

1652
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 6: constant state of rebuild. They have this championship caliber defense

1653
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 6: and they can't figure out the offense year after year

1654
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 6: after year. So then you can excuse it away and say,

1655
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 6: oh my god, well it's Flacco, he's old.

1656
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna look at the new guys.

1657
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 6: If if Flaco is playing like Flaco just looked last night,

1658
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 6: the Browns are going to be a problem. That offense

1659
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 6: is going to activate, and the Browns are going to

1660
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 6: be a force. Instead, you're throwing in a guy probably

1661
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 6: before he's ready he looks terrible. You're dropping him back

1662
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 6: fifty eight times in Pittsburgh. He's he's getting killed out there.

1663
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 6: And they they haven't cracked twenty points all season. Well,

1664
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 6: and they're already done. Their season is already over.

1665
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 4: They owed Jerry Judy forty one million, and he's at

1666
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 4: the bottom of the NFL wide receiver receiving rankings right now.

1667
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: I don't know that Dylan Gabriel is going to improve

1668
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 4: that for him, but you would think Joe Flacco might have.

1669
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 3: A quarterbacks eight.

1670
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,879
Speaker 4: That being said, bitching about the Browns no trading Flacco

1671
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 4: was a bad look for Mike Tomlin, and it made

1672
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: it look worse last night.

1673
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, I thought.

1674
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 6: It was gamesmanship and they were gonna come out and

1675
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,839
Speaker 6: come after him, and that is not what happened.

1676
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1677
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: Now it just looks like the guy who loves to

1678
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 4: come out and say we do not care is like.

1679
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 5: Why did they do this to us? It looks bad.

1680
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 7: We know that.

1681
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 6: You know that scene in Austin Powers when he gets

1682
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 6: run over, when the guy gets run over by the forklift. Yeah,

1683
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 6: but it's like one hundred yards away. It's like, dude,

1684
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 6: we saw this coming. Yeah, as soon as the trade

1685
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 6: was made, it.

1686
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: Was like no, no, still ran us over going two

1687
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 3: miles an hour. We got flackoed.

1688
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 4: We've been t bowed before, but we've been flaccoed so

1689
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 4: many times.

1690
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: Two years in a row now, indeed with last two

1691
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 3: different teams.

1692
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, more on that from Guy Junker eight

1693
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 4: forty five, and Rob came with a power hour of

1694
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 4: Steeler Talk coming up for you and Abbie. We've been

1695
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: having a good not a good time is the wrong

1696
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 4: way to describe it, but we've been enjoying listening to

1697
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: all of these Ice Freely clips.

1698
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 8: Listen, you gotta celebrate them because like he is a

1699
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 8: once in a lifetime kind of artist, because he inspired

1700
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 8: so many guitar legends. News this hour brought to you

1701
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 8: by Wind Donation. Kiss legend Ace Freheley died yesterday. And

1702
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 8: again you know I've said countless times my love for

1703
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 8: Kiss and especially Ace Frehey. This is one that hits

1704
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 8: me really hard. He was seventy four years old. He's

1705
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 8: definitely a guy that.

1706
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 5: Lived really hard. Yeah, I don't.

1707
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 8: Think he expected to live long and in so many

1708
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,919
Speaker 8: times in his life when he was especially battling drugs

1709
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 8: and alcohol and crashing Delareans.

1710
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he expected to.

1711
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 4: Live the Delaurian around a telephone pole. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1712
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: It's just so funny that it was a deloreate.

1713
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 5: It's hilarious that it was a deloreate.

1714
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 3: Cops gonna pull him out of the car, and he's like.

1715
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 5: Doc, guys, Olibya's are coming after.

1716
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 11: Now.

1717
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 8: He he did say that he was so verse since

1718
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 8: two thousand and six, and he actually had just done

1719
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 8: a tour.

1720
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,520
Speaker 5: He had a new record out called ten thousand.

1721
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 8: Volts, which a lot of people said was a pretty

1722
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 8: good record. He had been hospitalized with a brain bleed.

1723
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 8: He had a fall a few weeks ago, which I

1724
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 8: did see the news of that, And again it was

1725
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 8: right around the time where Gene Simmons had crashed his car,

1726
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 8: So you had like those two stories happening around the

1727
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 8: same time. But Aces ended up being a lot more serious.

1728
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 8: And this is also why, as you know, you age

1729
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 8: and you have those falls, you need to go to

1730
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 8: the hospital.

1731
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 5: You need to get those things checked out.

1732
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 8: But his family ended up taking him off of life

1733
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 8: support last night. The big thing, again, of course, is

1734
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 8: how many people Ace inspired. He was the lead guitarist,

1735
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 8: and like, you know, combining kind of this like Circus

1736
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 8: Star Wars element with rock and roll I think makes

1737
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 8: him so iconically seventies in that way. He did leave

1738
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 8: the band in nineteen eighty two.

1739
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 5: One thing that you were playing in the.

1740
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 8: Break that I would love for you to play for

1741
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 8: the audience because like, this is really funny, but this

1742
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 8: kind of portun at the end of his time with Kiss, Yes,

1743
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,879
Speaker 8: this was is this seventy nine.

1744
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy nine Halloween night, they appeared on The Tom

1745
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 4: Snyder Show, and Ace just he was in his cups,

1746
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 4: probably a little bit. He ran out of his mind

1747
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 4: and he was having a good time. But you can

1748
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: tell Gene and Paul want to convey this aura of

1749
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 4: Kiss to the audience, and Ace is like, ha, you guy,

1750
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 4: you know your buddy. He's in all the makeup, he's

1751
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 4: wearing the uniform, but he is not conforming to this

1752
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 4: mystique that they are trying to portray, and they are

1753
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 4: just so pissed at him. And this is a quick

1754
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 4: collage of Ace and his cackle.

1755
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Just upending the interview.

1756
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 4: So you'll hear a bunch of different clips sort of

1757
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 4: thrown together here and Ace Freely, who.

1758
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 11: Is the lead guitarist.

1759
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm the trap player.

1760
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 24: And when you see all these people screaming and crying

1761
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 24: and all that, tell.

1762
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 3: Me about your outfits.

1763
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 11: I mean, dude, did you design your own outfits?

1764
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: All of you? And then tell me what each outfit means.

1765
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 21: And I'll start with you Ace, Well, explanatory.

1766
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 24: If we're in if we're in a hotel across the

1767
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 24: street from the halls were playing, it really looks like

1768
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 24: Ringling Brothers, because you see parents, you see six years old,

1769
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,480
Speaker 24: you see twenty.

1770
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 3: Five year old.

1771
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 11: It's really a contint of bombay. There would even be kind.

1772
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 5: He's slapping his knees.

1773
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: But you're kind of like a spaceman. No, actually I'm

1774
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: a plumber. Listen, I got a little piece of pipe

1775
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 3: bacs the age I'd like to have you work on.

1776
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 11: Tell me about that.

1777
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 5: But I like that.

1778
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 4: Oh so like the entire time he's doing that, Jeene

1779
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 4: Simmons wants to murder him. He just kills to murder him.

1780
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 4: An Ace does not care. No, He's like, I'm having fun, dude,

1781
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 4: I don't care. You can be all up tight.

1782
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 8: Yes, he and he this was that was the Dynasty tours.

1783
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 5: So that's like when they were doing I Was Made

1784
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 5: for Loving You.

1785
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 8: So like Ace is about as disengaged in being in

1786
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 8: that band as he could possibly be. Yeah, the next record,

1787
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 8: you know, or next couple records that they did out

1788
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 8: of that, Ace was barely doing any studio time with

1789
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 8: them or guitar solos. He's basically showing up for the tours.

1790
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 8: By eighty two, he's out of the band. He gets

1791
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 8: back in the band for the Unplugged tour and then

1792
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 8: that's where we got those huge reunion tours and then

1793
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 8: you know, kind of Kiss seems like it's gonna live

1794
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 8: on back out of the band. So it was actually

1795
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 8: sweet that, you know, both Gene and Paul did a

1796
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 8: joint quote last night talking about Ace, just talking about

1797
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 8: how essential he was, how irreplaceable he was, and you know,

1798
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 8: really giving him the credit that he was due for Kiss,

1799
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 8: because as much as the dynamic of the band was

1800
01:27:55,280 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 8: always under stress, you had Ace and Peter who might

1801
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 8: have been more of the heart and soul in the

1802
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 8: way that you cannot contain people like that. They're loose cannons,

1803
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 8: but you can't replace them, and then you need people

1804
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 8: like Jeane and Paul, who keep the glue together?

1805
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 5: Who keep Oh, I don't ever love this sub solo

1806
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 5: is so badass? Was Occupance an amazing vibrato too for

1807
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 5: a guitar player. And I don't know if this is

1808
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 5: true or not.

1809
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 8: I would guess that a guy like Slash too, that

1810
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 8: like Ace Freely's got to be a reason that a

1811
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 8: guy like Slash goes. I'll take a less Paul in

1812
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 8: a Marshall stack. You know, that was just kind of

1813
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 8: like his that's what he did. I think that so

1814
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 8: many guitar players, like, you know, if that was their

1815
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 8: starting point for rock and roll, they'll go like.

1816
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'd like.

1817
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 8: Please again he he launched so many players again, not

1818
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 8: only because it would had that rock and roll mystique

1819
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 8: and it had like the dangerous element and kind of

1820
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 8: a mythical it was off the rails. Gene also added

1821
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 8: that in his personal statement that you know, Ace is

1822
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 8: not going to be there when Kiss gets a Kennedy

1823
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 8: Center honor in December, which is I know, you know

1824
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 8: for New York dude, you know that would have been

1825
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 8: incredibly special. Peter Criss, also, by the way, was at

1826
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 8: Ace's bedside when he passed because they were still friends,

1827
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 8: that that friendship remained to you know, the very very end.

1828
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 7: Wow.

1829
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 4: I mean the point you made earlier, though he lived

1830
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 4: way longer than even he thought he would, and the

1831
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 4: fact that he was working on music right up to

1832
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 4: the end. It's great that he had that quality of life,

1833
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's pretty wild. Yeah, he lived hard.

1834
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 4: He cackled right to.

1835
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 3: The very end.

1836
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 6: Anytime I see any news with Kiss, first I think

1837
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 6: about Craig Gas and then I think about you, because

1838
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 6: you're the biggest Kiss fan.

1839
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 3: That I know.

1840
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 8: I had people from high school, Oh yeah texting me

1841
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,919
Speaker 8: last night like a sibling.

1842
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, They're like, Abby, I'm so sorry.

1843
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 8: I'm like, god, no offense, I'm okay, but thank you.

1844
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1845
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 5: But also at the same time, like.

1846
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 8: I you know, because of our jobs, like we get

1847
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 8: kind of these alerts that certain things are coming, right,

1848
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 8: and so you know, there were certain bulletins that were

1849
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 8: going out saying like, hey, this isn't confirmed yet, but

1850
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 8: this is likely to be happening within the next few hours,

1851
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 8: and so.

1852
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 3: Like I was life support.

1853
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was mentally preparing for that as I was

1854
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 8: heading out to the event that I was working last

1855
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 8: night with Charlotte Hayward. And as I was heading after that,

1856
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, man, I hope that turns the corner,

1857
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 8: but like, oh my god, that might happen. And I

1858
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 8: didn't think I was going to be that impacted by it,

1859
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 8: because again, I squeezed Rabbit really hard and I learned

1860
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 8: gifts forever. But I was like, also, they're silly, so

1861
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 8: I'm going to be okay. And then when I got

1862
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 8: in the car and I'm putting on the Steeler game

1863
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 8: and I saw that that indeed did happen, I was.

1864
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 5: Like, ooh, like this hurts really bad.

1865
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 4: I think Gene always had this like part of the

1866
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 4: grudge that Jeane had with him is that everyone loved Ace.

1867
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, he.

1868
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 4: Was like the clown who would not conform to what

1869
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: Gene wanted and it bothered him to no end that

1870
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 4: you could be Ace and still be loved in that band, Like, well.

1871
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 6: Because people are applauding authenticity, like if he's uniquely himself,

1872
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 6: people are going to respond to that.

1873
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 4: Remember that story about when Jim Carrey was doing the

1874
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 4: Batman movie and Tommy Lee Jones hated him, and he

1875
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 4: saw Tommy Lee Jones out while they were filming, and

1876
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 4: he went up to him and he was like, hey, Tommy,

1877
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 4: everything okay.

1878
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 5: And Tommy Lee Jones says to Jim Carrey, I.

1879
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 4: Cannot sanction your buffoonery.

1880
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 5: That Jean Simmons with Ace. He just could not.

1881
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 4: He tweeted out last night, Gene Simmons did our hearts

1882
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 4: are broken? Ace has passed on. No one can touch

1883
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 4: Ace's legacy. I know he loved the fans, he told

1884
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 4: me many times. Sadder still, Ace didn't live long enough

1885
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,520
Speaker 4: to be honored at the Kennedy Center event in December.

1886
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 4: Ace was the eternal rock soldier. Long may his legacy

1887
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 4: live on.

1888
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 8: The thing that you pointed out to is the thing

1889
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 8: that drove Gene and Paul insane about Ace Freely is

1890
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 8: the reason they knew they had to have him in

1891
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 8: the band because they auditioned a ton of guitar players

1892
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 8: with the Village Voice, right, so like they put out

1893
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 8: the ad and they knew they needed somebody special. Ace

1894
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 8: Frehley walks into the room to audition. He says nothing

1895
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 8: when he walks in the room. He's this tall, lanky,

1896
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 8: weird looking dude. Cab driver has two different shoe colors.

1897
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 11: On him.

1898
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 8: He's got Converse shoes, his jeans are ripped, He's got

1899
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 8: like one orange shoe, one red shoe.

1900
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 5: He just puts down his.

1901
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 8: Guitar case, he plugs in this Marshal just starts playing,

1902
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 8: is barely acknowledging them. He's ripping, and they're like, a,

1903
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 8: you know, like what the hell is going on here?

1904
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 8: And then you know, he just acts like he knows them,

1905
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 8: just jumps right into it.

1906
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 5: He's so weird. But they're just like, what's up with

1907
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 5: this dude?

1908
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 8: And he just takes over and then they just know

1909
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 8: they have to have him. But again, it's that razor's

1910
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 8: edge with people that are creatives and off their rocker,

1911
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 8: that you know, you got a little bit of lightning

1912
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 8: in a bottle.

1913
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 4: One of my favorite memes was a uh rip remembering

1914
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,440
Speaker 4: Ace Frehley, and it was a picture of two mismatched

1915
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 4: Converse sneakers, the orange and red.

1916
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people.

1917
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 3: Color blind.

1918
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 4: No, he's just high, Okay, he was.

1919
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 8: He was cocaine blind exactly. You does that have a

1920
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 8: song called snowblind on his solo? It was not it

1921
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 8: was not hyperbolic, but yeah, like just somebody that I

1922
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 8: think will get a lot of love in the coming days,

1923
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 8: and I'll be a part of that as well. Sunshine

1924
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 8: today high of sixty three, partly sunny on Saturday with

1925
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 8: a high of seventy five, and finally some rain on

1926
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 8: Sunday with cloudy skies a high of seventy five.

1927
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 4: High piece space Man All right, Mike's coming in more

1928
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 4: on last night's Steelers lost to the Bengals and AFC North.

1929
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 5: Battle that we we knew it was going to be like.

1930
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 4: That is gonna come down to the last series essentially,

1931
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 4: and Flacco gets it done.

1932
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 5: Cannot believe how good.

1933
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 3: He was last night.

1934
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 4: Ageless wonder the Icy hot Bowl, the unk Bowl, whatever

1935
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 4: you want to call if. The two old guys were

1936
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 4: pretty damn good last night, but Flackow was better guy

1937
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 4: Junker Rob King in the nine o'clock hour. Here more

1938
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 4: to come as we post mortem last night Steeler's loss

1939
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 4: on DVE.

1940
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 9: Can you play the greatest song in the world.

1941
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 3: For me only if you can dick it.

1942
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 25: Let us know your lunch requests on our socials phone

1943
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 25: or the talkback button on the iHeart radio app. You

1944
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 25: picked the songs on the Electric Lunch at noon on DVE.

1945
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 21: From the Bridgeville Appliance Weather Center, known for exceptional service.

1946
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 4: Mike Pursuita stayed up and hosted the post game call

1947
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,520
Speaker 4: in show on the Steelers Audio Network.

1948
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 3: Slept in a chair in our conference room and he's

1949
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 3: here for you.

1950
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 4: Now, what else was I going to do with your

1951
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 4: sports dv oh'll have a luck going on. So you know,

1952
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 4: thirty three thirty one Flacco and the Bengals get it

1953
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: done over Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. You would have

1954
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 4: been forgiven if you turn on that game and thought, oh,

1955
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: it's an NFL Network classics they're showing what is this

1956
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 4: from two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, No

1957
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco.

1958
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 13: If you'd have done that and thought that, you'd have thought,

1959
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 13: why is slack of on the Begs.

1960
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 3: Ros the Ravens against the Pack? This is confusing.

1961
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 13: Sports is Ut brought to you by Bridgeville Plats. It

1962
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 13: wasn't just that the Steelers failed to generate a turnover

1963
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 13: in what became last night's disaster in Cincinnati. They also

1964
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 13: gave it away twice, and that Mike Tomlin is well

1965
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 13: aware by now is a losing combination.

1966
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 14: You know, when we're not getting it we better secure it.

1967
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 14: I think it's the totality of it. We work as

1968
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 14: a collective, and so if we're not getting it, we

1969
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 14: certainly better protect it. And so we didn't do a

1970
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 14: good enough job of getting it tonight. We didn't do

1971
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 14: enough good enough job of protecting it. When your minus

1972
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 14: two on the road, you don't win a lot of

1973
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 14: those games.

1974
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, and that much. I agree with the turnovers in

1975
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 13: the first half. You know, Aaron Rodgers missed the throw

1976
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 13: and then DK Metcalf let them rip the ball from

1977
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 13: his grasp, and I think, well, I know, I spent

1978
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 13: a lot of time in the days leading up to

1979
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 13: the game talking about Cleveland giving Metcalf one on one

1980
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 13: and the Steelers exploiting it, and how Rogers to Metcalf

1981
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 13: had been the second highest quarterback to wide receiver passer

1982
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 13: rating in the league, behind only Mecha Buca and Baker Mayfield.

1983
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 13: They got burned on a couple of those last night.

1984
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 3: And you know, the.

1985
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 13: One on ones there, Aaron Rodgers is your guy. Metcalf's

1986
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 13: your guy. Your guy's got to be better than their guys.

1987
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 6: The one, he just shaded it too far to the

1988
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 6: inside of the field, like he gave their defense a chance.

1989
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 13: You know, And because the defense was so incredibly bad,

1990
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 13: they asked the offense to be perfect and it wasn't.

1991
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 13: And that's how you lose a game such as last

1992
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 13: night's defense.

1993
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 4: Some of the other mistakes he made outside of that interception,

1994
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 4: the second one was on DK not on Aaron Rodgers.

1995
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that. I had a whole

1996
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 4: lot of problem with other decisions that he made.

1997
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Laste miss Connor Heyward in the end zone. I mean,

1998
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 3: that's a nitpick, but he I mean went open.

1999
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 5: But he also had scored on the next play, didn't

2000
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 5: he he did.

2001
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, he also overthrew Smith on the second possession. Again,

2002
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 13: I'm saying he had to be perfect. Yeah, I'm not

2003
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 13: saying he was bad, but it was incredible they asked

2004
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 13: a little too much of him given how bad their

2005
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 13: defense was. And here's the thing that drives me crazy

2006
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 13: about that game. It should have been easier for the

2007
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 13: Steelers to light up the Cincinnati defense than it would

2008
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 13: have been for the Steelers' defense to limit Cincinnati's offense.

2009
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 13: Because the running game thing is an outlier that that

2010
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 13: obviously contributed to the problems they had defending the pass

2011
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 13: in a big way.

2012
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, because they should have been able to make

2013
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 5: them one dimension.

2014
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, but the Bengal with a with a quarterback who

2015
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 13: can activate those receivers are combustible.

2016
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 3: And that's that's not new. It's been that way since

2017
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 3: Borrow when they got those guys.

2018
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 5: That's why they went and got Ramsey.

2019
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it didn't work. I mean, does that mean

2020
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 13: it will never work? I don't know, but last night

2021
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 13: it clearly did not. But let me offensively, I mean,

2022
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 13: plan bs, you keep running Ramsey out there and keep

2023
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 13: asking to be great.

2024
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 6: Well, it wasn't just Ramsey too, I mean Slay got

2025
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 6: beat Joey Porter can't keep his hands off receivers.

2026
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 13: Slay Slay's the one that I've got my eye on.

2027
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 13: I don't know that every week. I don't know that

2028
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 13: you keep going going back to that one.

2029
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 4: Actually, when he got hurt that one time, I was

2030
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 4: kind of like, I'd rather see echos right now.

2031
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 13: They think a lot of eccles and maybe, you know,

2032
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 13: they got to change something.

2033
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

2034
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 13: At this point. It's not like you're gonna go out

2035
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 13: and get all the new guys. It's not like you're

2036
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 13: gonna change things dramatically relative to the scheme.

2037
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 3: But he's given big Pat Pete, you know what I mean.

2038
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 4: Like feels like we've seen this fish before.

2039
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: Here's what really.

2040
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 13: Bothered me by about the first half, and again, the

2041
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 13: defensive numbers are ungodly awful. What you said, Orlovsky tweeted,

2042
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 13: it's a difficulty.

2043
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2044
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:18,560
Speaker 4: An hour ago, Orlowski said, the Steelers defensive tape is

2045
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 4: is really bad.

2046
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 3: Because they're out of position and standing straight up.

2047
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 13: They get the ball and score, and it looks like

2048
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 13: the Bengals can't generate any kind of pass rush without

2049
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 13: Trey Hendrickson and they can do whatever they want.

2050
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 3: They're running the.

2051
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 13: Ball the Steelers second possession, it's second and three from

2052
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 13: the Pittsburgh forty four, and that's when they ran down

2053
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 13: of boarded flee flicker. Now, maybe they thought that was

2054
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 13: going to go for a huge splash play, which you need.

2055
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 13: But Rogers called it off. At least according to Ryan

2056
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,919
Speaker 13: Fitzpatrick and Charlie Batch belize the same thing. And everybody

2057
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 13: got the word that it was called off except Jalen Warren.

2058
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 13: So you screw up a play there when it's in three.

2059
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 13: Now it's third and three and he just overthrew John Smith.

2060
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 13: You end up punting. Opportunity lost there. Third possession, they

2061
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 13: get to the Cincinnati eighteen fourth and one, Tomlins's go

2062
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 13: for it, pedals down, We're getting a touchdown. Great, I

2063
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 13: love it. They run the friggin tush push and false start.

2064
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 13: Now you kick a field goal, there's four points you

2065
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 13: potentially left on the board.

2066
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: Ye.

2067
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 4: When it's Washington doing the tush push, shouldn't we call

2068
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 4: it the avalanche?

2069
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 3: You're right? Yeah? At the Mount Washington avalanche? Yeah, splash.

2070
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 13: The interception where Rodgers misplaced the ball that occurred at

2071
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 13: the Bengals twenty four yard line. They're up ten to

2072
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 13: seven at that point. How many points did they leave

2073
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 13: on the field there?

2074
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 4: I just think they got too cute and those times

2075
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 4: with you can't afford to do that in a game

2076
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: like this.

2077
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 13: The ball that Metcalf had stripped that occurred at the

2078
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 13: Cincinnati thirty. They're down fourteen to ten there. How many

2079
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 13: points did they leave on the field there? Yeah, we're

2080
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 13: the points riding up through this conversation, right, and you

2081
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 13: end up losing by two on a field goal with

2082
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 13: seven seconds left.

2083
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of self inflicted wounds.

2084
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 13: You know, there's different kind of games. Sometimes you know

2085
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 13: your offense is up against it and the defense better

2086
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 13: be buckled up, Mike.

2087
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know.

2088
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 13: The defense is up against it and the offense better

2089
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 13: maximize opportunity. Last night, you had a pretty good idea

2090
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 13: that it was going to take points to win that game,

2091
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 13: and they didn't get enough.

2092
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 4: I want you to speak to this because I know

2093
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 4: that you take exception to hearing this. Bengals wide receiver

2094
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase saying after the game, they knew exactly what

2095
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 4: the Steelers plan to do, exactly what we was expecting.

2096
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 4: And then you go back to a year ago, Julian

2097
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 4: Edelman saying, they did what they did though you know

2098
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 4: exactly what they were going to do.

2099
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 5: Every time they still do what they do.

2100
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 4: They still do the same GD bleep they did when

2101
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 4: I was playing Tomlin the defense. Yeah, I don't well,

2102
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 4: I mean that'leman stuff doesn't apply anymore. Well he's on

2103
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 4: a past saying that, Yeah, like last night or no,

2104
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 4: last year.

2105
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean they they changed a lot of things.

2106
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 13: What they did blitz way more.

2107
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 7: Now.

2108
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 13: They had a bunch of guys in the nickel different

2109
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 13: that Ramsey was playing different spots. They they are more diverse.

2110
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 13: I think they're too diverse for their own good because

2111
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 13: they keep.

2112
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 3: Screwing it up. Yeah, they don't.

2113
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 13: They're confusing themselves instead of the other quarterback. And particularly

2114
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 13: you play a veteran, are you gonna confuse Joe Flacco?

2115
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 3: Really? Is that the plan?

2116
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 4: You've got to be really dialed in to do the

2117
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 4: stuff that they want to do there. And when Mike

2118
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 4: tom was talking about like the opportunity to be historic,

2119
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 4: I think that that's what he was envisioning. Oh yeah,

2120
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 4: we have so many talented guys who know what they're doing.

2121
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 4: We're going to be able to dial up all sorts

2122
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 4: of confusing looks pre snap and be able to drop

2123
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 4: back into a completely different coverage. And what ended up

2124
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 4: happening is he's got a bunch of guys who still

2125
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 4: have not figured out how.

2126
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 5: To communicate with one another on how to do all

2127
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 5: of that.

2128
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,440
Speaker 4: Patrick Queen, who I thought took a huge step forward

2129
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 4: two games ago, took a couple steps back last night. Yeah,

2130
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 4: throwing his hands up in the air. What am I

2131
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 4: supposed to do here? And Jamar Chase is just waving

2132
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 4: and Flacco, nobody's on me.

2133
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 6: I think they overthink things too like too often in

2134
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 6: this league. It can be real simple Jamar Chase on

2135
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 6: a slant twenty three times. They're not overthinking it because

2136
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 6: they can't. He just got there ten days ago. When

2137
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 6: you have too much time on your hand to come

2138
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 6: up with all these games, at the end of the day,

2139
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 6: you got to win your matchups. It's just yeah, making

2140
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 6: plays and executing, playing with instinct.

2141
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 4: I always reference the Dick Lebow versus Tim Tebow game.

2142
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 4: When you have that argument presented, you just overthought it.

2143
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 4: There's not much you can do.

2144
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Yeah?

2145
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 13: And the other thing, And we talked about this going

2146
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 13: into the game, just being able. I think one of

2147
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 13: the reasons they played as poorly as they did was

2148
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 13: they were not able to match the energy and physicality

2149
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 13: of Cincinnati. And that as good as the defense looked,

2150
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 13: particularly the last two weeks.

2151
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 3: Man, they were flying around.

2152
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 13: They were playing with speed and violence, according to the

2153
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 13: coordinator Terol Austin, and that that was obvious to us

2154
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 13: watching right and last night they were playing reactionary, try

2155
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 13: to chase it down kind of defense.

2156
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 3: They weren't.

2157
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were on their heels. They were not the aggressors.

2158
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 4: We surprised her Big only played twenty eight snaps.

2159
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't looked at this snap counts.

2160
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 5: You only played twenty eight seventy two defensive snaps.

2161
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 13: I only noticed the three outside linebackers on the field

2162
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 13: at the same time.

2163
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 3: Thing once, but it was hard to tell.

2164
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 13: I didn't like the TV broadcast seemed more interested in

2165
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 13: showing guys on the sideline or people in the stands,

2166
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 13: or close up to the quarterback picking his nose and

2167
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 13: actually giving you a view of the field.

2168
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know, on those prime broadcasts you can choose

2169
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 4: the alternate vantage point.

2170
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what I could choose in here.

2171
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm lucky I can see the game.

2172
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you mean in our state of the art studio.

2173
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 3: On the TVs that aren't actually TVs. Yeah, And I

2174
01:45:58,479 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 3: don't know.

2175
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 13: You know, maybe this has coming to Jesus' time because

2176
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 13: these next three games are going to leave a mark

2177
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 13: and they have to be better.

2178
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 3: They keep saying they're better. Time to be better.

2179
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 4: Guy Junker coming up after the break. Also, we'll do

2180
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 4: a power hour of Steeler Talk with Rob King at

2181
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 4: nine o'clock and before we get there, Mike.

2182
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 13: After further review, gambling can indeed easier pain even when

2183
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 13: watching your favorite team play is painful. Remember yesterday, Remember

2184
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 13: and I quote, the total of forty four is low,

2185
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 13: even if the age of both quarterbacks approaches it. Check

2186
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 13: the tape. The call has been confirmed. If you have

2187
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 13: a bet park sports looking online casino app, you know

2188
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 13: what I'm talking about.

2189
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 3: If you don't, it's time to find out.

2190
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 13: Player props that pop also helped make those ls go

2191
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 13: down a little bit easier, and there were a boatload

2192
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 13: of those last night. If you know your team and

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Speaker 7: Guy?

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Speaker 5: How are you, Bud?

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Speaker 9: Good morning, guys. I wish you wouldn't have moved me

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Speaker 9: to today. This would have been a more fun game

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Speaker 9: to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We could talk about Penn State.

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Speaker 9: Yanks. Let's talk about them.

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Speaker 4: Penguin all right, Guy, Let's go over the icy Hot Bowl,

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Speaker 4: the Unk Bull, the many names for these two venerable

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01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 4: qbs who faced off plenty in the tank for both

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01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 4: of them. There was a bit of a question mark

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Speaker 4: about Flacco because the Browns let him go, and quite frankly,

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01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 4: I mean, we even had Merril Hodge, who is as

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Speaker 4: good of a quarterback dissector as there is out there

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01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 4: on this very program saying that Flacco looked disinterested, like

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01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,839
Speaker 4: he didn't even want to play football. Boy, it couldn't

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01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 4: have been any different last night. That was as good

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Speaker 4: of a game as I've seen Joe Flacco ever have.

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Speaker 25: Well.

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Speaker 9: I mean last year we were frustrated when he come

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01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 9: off the bench for Indianapolis and beat us. So you

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Speaker 9: know we've seen this movie before. I just I'm the

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01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 9: amazing thing to me and you guys were talking earlier

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Speaker 9: about how if you're an impartial observer and just watching

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Speaker 9: this in Boise, Idaho, what a great Thursday night came

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01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 9: it is. It was very entertaining, two old guys in

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Speaker 9: their forties that hardly ever happens, both of them playing

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Speaker 9: very well. I'm just amazed at the command that he

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01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 9: has and their playbook has to be fairly small at

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01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 9: this point. I know their first practice last week when

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Speaker 9: he stepped in there, they had thirty plays.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 9: And you know how comfortable he looks like he's been

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01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 9: there forever. That to me is obviously a big knock

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Speaker 9: on the Steeler defense. I'm shocked. I'm not shocked that

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01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 9: they lost this game. I told you guys last week,

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Speaker 9: I wasn't ready to anoint them division winners like a

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Speaker 9: lot of people were, just because everything had fallen so

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Speaker 9: perfectly the week before. Look, Thursday, they kept pointing out

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Speaker 9: Tomlin's road a Thursday night record. Thursday night road teams

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 9: almost always lose. You want to make a bet, bet

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Speaker 9: against the road team on Thursday nights in the league,

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Speaker 9: going two teams have one on Thursday Night on the road.

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Speaker 9: This year it's like two and five or whatever. So

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Speaker 9: so I'm not totally surprised at that. You're facing a

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Speaker 9: team that's completely got their backs against the wall pretty

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01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 9: much their season is on the line, But that doesn't

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Speaker 9: make it any less frustrating. I mean, they could have

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Speaker 9: been so much in the driver's seat, not just with

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Speaker 9: a five to one record, but they'd have been four

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Speaker 9: to zero in the conference. They would have had a

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Speaker 9: perfect division record. And now and now you look at

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Speaker 9: the schedule. Now the Bengals had the Jets the Bears

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Speaker 9: in a bye before they come here to Pittsburgh. You know,

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01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 9: most likely by the time they come here, the Steelers

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Speaker 9: and Bengals would have the same record, will be tighter,

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 9: just a game apart, instead of having a commanding lead

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Speaker 9: in the division. And you know what, and on any

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01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 9: given week, look at the Jets, I'm disparaging them at

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 9: a and six and took a sixty yard field goal

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01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 9: for the Steelers to beat him. The biggest disappointment I

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01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 9: think in worry heading forward to me, the run defense

2281
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 9: is not fixed. You know, this was not Sakwon Barkley.

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01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 9: This was not you know, Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson

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01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 9: running all over them. This was a team was averaging

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01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 9: less than three yards a carry all year. That absolutely stunk.

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Speaker 9: And when you want to talk about Flacco, look that

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 9: they made it easy on him by being able to

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01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 9: run the ball so much. If they stuffed that run

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01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 9: early and force him to pass, I don't think he

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Speaker 9: has the success that he did.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's funny guy with Flacco being so new

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 13: to the Cincinnati party, how many times have you watched

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01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 13: the game? This happens, particularly in the NFL, where something

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01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 13: will be working and then the teams go away from

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01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 13: it because they think the defense will adjust, and you're thinking.

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Speaker 3: Just keep running. It's working, it's working. The Bagels didn't

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01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 3: have any many other options, so it's like, okay, like

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01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 3: that can happen.

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01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 9: Like the perfect example, the Steelers were averaging over a

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01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 9: six yards a run when they threw that deep pass

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01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 9: that got intercepted and turned the game around. Why why

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01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 9: don't you just continue with what's working until they stop

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01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 9: it instead of getting greedy and cute the flea flicker

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01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 9: some of the stuff they did that allowed them to

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Speaker 9: get back in the game. The guys didn't talk about it,

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01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 9: but I thought one of the huge plays in the

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01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 9: game was the Zach Frazier penalty that negated because it

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01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 9: really didn't allow You know, sometimes you see a hole

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01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 9: and it's like, well, he's gonna get tackled if the

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01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 9: guy didn't all of that. To me, I looked at

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 9: that and that had no bearing on that play. That

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01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 9: would have been a touchdown and then they still got

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01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 9: a reprieve and that could have had a first down.

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01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 9: On the tush push inside the red zone and they

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01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 9: screw that up and they end up with a field

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01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 9: goal there. And to me, that sequence is which sort

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01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 9: of changed the momentum. They lost that game in the

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01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 9: last five minutes of the second quarter, you know, I

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01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:07,679
Speaker 9: mean giving them ten easy points within a five minute

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01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 9: span when they hadn't scored a first quarter touchdown since

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 9: Burrow got hurt. I mean a first half touchdown since

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Speaker 9: Burrow got hurt.

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Speaker 6: And to your point, guy, going away with what works.

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 6: Not only was running the ball working, but it was

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01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 6: also keeping that potentially combustible offense for the Bengals on

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Speaker 6: the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: And I felt like if they were.

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01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,799
Speaker 6: Able to continue to do that, Flacco would have started yawning,

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01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:33,799
Speaker 6: he'd have got tired.

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01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: Maybe he's start cramping up.

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Speaker 6: I mean, when I sit down after on this show,

2331
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 6: I got to get up and walk around.

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 3: My legs don't work like they used to.

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01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 6: And instead, you know, you give them life, You bring

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01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 6: the crowd back into it. The momentum totally shifted and

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01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 6: now you're chasing.

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01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 9: Them, and yet you still managed to come back and

2337
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 9: somehow get a lead with less than three minutes to play. Well,

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01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 9: here's all you need to know about the game. The

2339
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 9: best Deeler tackle all night was made by an offensive

2340
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 9: lignement on his own quarterback. Oh brother, I had that?

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 7: Does that?

2342
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 9: Defense has me worried? And I don't want to hear

2343
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 9: about you know what they did the last couple of

2344
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 9: games when they were playing Cleveland and such. I mean,

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01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 9: you know when they gave up over one hundred yards

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 9: rushing the first three games of the year, and then

2347
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 9: again last night to not some of the best running

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01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 9: teams in the league. I don't see where they're much

2349
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 9: ahead of where they were a year ago and trying

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01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 9: to stop the run.

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Speaker 4: I understand that they're complementary, but if the defensive line

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01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 4: returns to the form that we thought they were starting

2353
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 4: to achieve, do you think that that will fix enough

2354
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 4: of the problems in the secondary or is this a

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01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 4: chuck noll we have.

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Speaker 3: They are great?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I think it's possible. I mean we've seen Look,

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01:54:55,080 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 9: we've seen some sparkles here and the old saying that

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01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 9: if you see it, if it happens once or twice,

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01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 9: it's in there. So no, I think I think it does.

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01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 9: Go on tannem when you've got that those are two

2362
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 9: excellent wide receivers too.

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01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 9: The disappointing thing is you got a quarterback that's been

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01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 9: in that uniform for nine days and you know you

2366
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 9: don't make life uncomfortable for him. I mean, you know,

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01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 9: zero pressures from Alex Heismith and Nick Krbig, and you

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 9: know pretty much other than one play, one or two plays,

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01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 9: you know, you didn't get much out of Watt, you

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01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 9: didn't get much out of Hayward. But no, I think

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01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 9: I think it is a little bit fixable if you

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01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 9: can get that pass rush a little bit better that

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01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 9: you know, they they even I think the personnel in

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01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 9: their secondary, but they're not young and they're not playing

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01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 9: man to man on some of the best receivers in

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Speaker 9: the league. I don't know why I took the halftime

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 9: to kind of change that. I thought it was a

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01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 9: little bit better than the second half. Not a ton,

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 9: but yeah, that's that.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 9: I think that I think, yeah, I do think that

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01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 9: they can improve that. It was a little better pass

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01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 9: rush the secondary. We'll look a heck of a lot.

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Speaker 3: Better, all right.

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01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 4: I'd be remiss if I did not ask what are

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01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 4: your thoughts on James Franklin, Penn State James Franklin, by

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01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 4: the way, is going to be on college game day tomorrow.

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 9: Oh fantastic. Well, you guys asked me about it late

2389
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 9: last week, and I saw no.

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Speaker 7: Way to do.

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01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 9: And I'm i as an alum and a season ticket

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01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 9: older and against the move right now, I mean, and

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01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 9: I think they felt. I mean, they were chanting fire

2394
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 9: Franklin at the Penn State hockey game last week, and

2395
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 9: I think they started bowing to the pressure. They got

2396
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 9: a seven hundred million million dollar stadium project going on.

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01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 9: Here's why if you want to fire him at the

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01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 9: end of the season, at least by then you have

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01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 9: a better idea maybe whose replacement is. They're losing recruits

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01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 9: left and right. They're jumping off the Titanic. They had

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 9: the number one recruiting class in twenty twenty seven. They've

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01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 9: lost four four star recruits this week. The kid from

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01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 9: m Key Sport, the spell Kid, now says he's not

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01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 9: one hundred percent committee. He's reopened it. You know, so

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01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 9: they might take a giant step backward. And let's say

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01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 9: they now, you know, Indiana immediately panic went out and

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Speaker 9: signed Signetti, but to a long term deal. Let's just

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01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 9: say a guy like Signetti is you want. If they're

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Speaker 9: in the college football playoff, you might not hire a

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01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 9: coach till the end of January. You could be so

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 9: far behind the eight ball. Most of these kids are

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 9: going to commit elsewhere. The one thing that does change now,

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01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 9: you know college basketball coaches used to come in and

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Speaker 9: make a huge difference right away just because of the

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Speaker 9: size of the roster.

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Speaker 7: You get two.

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Speaker 9: Really strong kids to comm in, you can turn a

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Speaker 9: program around. You couldn't do that with football, at least

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Speaker 9: with nil transfer portal stuff like that. If they get

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01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 9: a guy in that can it is a big name

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01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 9: and can get some people back, even if it's not

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01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 9: the same guys that are jumping ship. Now, you might

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Speaker 9: get some people to come back. But I just don't

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 9: like the timing. To me, it was kind of a

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01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 9: panic move at the end of the year, if you

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Speaker 9: want to evaluate it. And as I said last week,

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01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 9: he hasn't won the big game. It's right there in

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01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 9: black and white. But now he started losing games that

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01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 9: he should have won, which he always would win before,

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01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 9: so maybe the time had come. I just think it

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 9: should have been at the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: Guy Johnker brought to you by Edgars Snyder and Associates

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Speaker 4: this morning on DV. Thanks Guy'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 5: All right, we'll see it. Hey, Rob King coming in

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Speaker 5: for a power hour of Steeler Talk.

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Speaker 4: I want to let you know tonight I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: doing a set of Jerry Garcia Band music with Rubens

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Speaker 4: Painted Bandlin.

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Speaker 5: These guys are amazing.

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Speaker 4: I mean it really sounds like JGB stuff and I

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Speaker 4: get to play all the Melton Steels organ parts. So

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Speaker 4: if you're in the mood for getting a little Jerry

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Speaker 4: Garcia in your life tonight, that'll be going on at

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Speaker 4: the Thunderbird. And it's a double bill. In the first

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Speaker 4: set is Danny Rechtenwald's favorite band. And if you have

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Speaker 4: not seen them, man, is that a good time?

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Speaker 6: I just saw The Dead last night or I would, Yes,

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Speaker 6: the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 3: Nothing to be grateful for with that performance. Unfortunately, at

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Speaker 3: least the ride sucks.

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Speaker 5: But these are.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Band songs, not the Dead.

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Speaker 5: What time does it start again?

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Speaker 4: It's an eight o'clock start tonight and there's there's tons

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Speaker 4: of music going on around Pittsburgh all weekend long. H

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Speaker 4: so as always support local music, get out in the

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Speaker 4: bat all right, Rob King coming up here once again

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Speaker 4: with the power hours Dealer talk. I'm anxious to hear

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Speaker 1: The Bengals have taken the lead.

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Speaker 4: Here take for stadium the author of that play call,

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Speaker 4: voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here on your radio home

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Speaker 4: of the Black Ing Gold DVE, Rob King joining us

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Speaker 4: now with a power hour of Steeler Talk. In this

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Speaker 4: first half hour of Steeler Talk has brought to you

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Speaker 4: The F one fifty is the official truck of the

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers and Kinger, Good morning, buddy, Thanks for getting

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Speaker 4: up early after pulling a late one last night.

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Speaker 3: And so it's okay, Moarn.

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Speaker 7: And my friend I'll tell you what it was. You

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Speaker 7: know it was. It was not the not the result

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Speaker 7: we wanted. It was great atmosphere in Cincinnati, exciting game

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Speaker 7: and smart play by T. Higgins at the end, and

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Speaker 7: they just couldn't find a way to stop.

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase said he would have done the same thing there.

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Speaker 4: They must have been coached up on that, and it

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02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 4: seemed to a lot of Steeler fans last night that

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Speaker 4: the coaching came into play, because that was a defense

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Speaker 4: that did not look like it was coached up on

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02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 4: its details. It's one thing to get beaten on the

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Speaker 4: defensive line. The way they did that, you can kind

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Speaker 4: of chalk up to effort, I think, and lack thereof,

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Speaker 4: and Cam Hayward certainly was accountable for that after the game.

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Speaker 4: But the in past coverage, the confusion that was going on,

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02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 4: particularly in the interior, was rampant, and it went all

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Speaker 4: the way to the end of the game when Jamar

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02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 4: Chase ran free across the middle of the field when

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Speaker 4: all the Bengals needed was a field goal, and we

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Speaker 4: still couldn't cover the guy who, like put anybody on,

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Speaker 4: the guy who'd been killing them the whole game.

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Speaker 7: This twenty third target, that's amazing, I mean just incredible.

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Speaker 7: I think he wound up with half the target. Chare

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Speaker 7: just under one under forty seven pass attempts, twenty three targets.

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Speaker 7: That's incredible. They just could not find a way to

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Speaker 7: stop him. They couldn't, you know, they couldn't find a

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Speaker 7: way to disrupt Joe Flacco. You know, And here's the problem, Like,

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Speaker 7: you know, you get these corners and you want to

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Speaker 7: be able to play some pressman coverage and all that.

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02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 7: But the pressman coverage doesn't last forever, right, I mean,

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Speaker 7: you still have to get pressure on the quarterback. I

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Speaker 7: think for me, I thought that the biggest surprise of

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Speaker 7: the game because Flacco. If you watch video, Flacco looked

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Speaker 7: better in the second half of the Bengals game against

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Speaker 7: the Packers. He actually looked better in the first half too.

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Speaker 7: They were victimized by a ton of drops in those games.

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Speaker 7: Josevash got a little bit of a Bronx cheer for

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Speaker 7: actually catching a ball. I think he dropped like four

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Speaker 7: in a row, three against Green Bay in the first

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Speaker 7: one last night, and even on the first driver or

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Speaker 7: two guys, you know when you look. You know, was

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Speaker 7: talking about this with Max Ter in the commercial break.

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Speaker 7: Their drops kill them there. I mean, you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: if you're watching from the Steelers' perspective, you're thinking, hey man,

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Speaker 7: when it was ten to nothing, it should be seventeen nothing,

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Speaker 7: and we should be on the verge of blowing them out.

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Speaker 7: If you're looking at it from the Bengals perspective, you're

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Speaker 7: thinking when we had two drives stalled because of self

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02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 7: inflicted damage, so you know, the Green Bay kind of

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Speaker 7: had its way. But to me, the biggest surprise for

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Speaker 7: me was upfront. I mean, this was a team that

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Speaker 7: came in incapable of running the football, and you know,

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Speaker 7: they ran the football at will and they were able

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Speaker 7: to protect Joe Flacco. And I didn't think either one

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Speaker 7: of those things was going to happen to the level

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Speaker 7: it happened. I you know, I thought Flacco, I think

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Speaker 7: with the phrase I used, I thought he gave him

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Speaker 7: a puncher's chance of winning and getting that offense rolling again.

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Speaker 7: But the other stuff, not being able to stop the run,

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Speaker 7: not being able to get enough pressure on him, that

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Speaker 7: really surprised me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I thought offensively that the Steelers made a mistake by

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Speaker 4: not being more methodical to begin in the game and

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Speaker 4: establishing establishing the run because Jalen Warren was railing off

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Speaker 4: seven point eight I think per attempt in the first half,

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Speaker 4: and if you stay with that, eat up the clock,

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Speaker 4: it just wear them down a little bit. Keep the

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Speaker 4: offense off the field set the tone a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure why they went so aggressive right away,

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02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 4: but you know, but for his mistake on the flea flicker,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Warren was an absolute just nightmare for that Bengals

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Speaker 4: defense all night.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he they were just blowing holes through

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Speaker 7: the Bengals defense, just blowing holes through it. It's not

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Speaker 7: a very good Bengals defense. Now, having said that, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think it'll at least bear watching. I mean Al

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Speaker 7: Golden's new coordating. I'm just talking about big picture here

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Speaker 7: for the Bengals. You know, they have a lot of

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Speaker 7: high draft choices. They played that game without Trey Hendrickson.

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02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 7: You know, they They've got a lot of pedigree on

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02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 7: that defense in terms of draft picks. They just don't

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02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 7: have performance. And you know, they've got a third round

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02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 7: pick that they're at defensive tackle from last year that

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Speaker 7: they're just not playing. So Al Golden's taking over that defense.

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02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 7: He benched Cam Taylor Britt that's a second round pick corner.

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02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 7: You just benched him.

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02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 5: He had had him at like ten twelve snaps.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he is no longer the starting linebacker and no

2587
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 7: longer going to get the snaps. So it'll be interesting

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02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 7: to see if that Bengals defense improves and if it

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02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 7: does more to the shame that you didn't win this

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02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 7: game because you were gashing that defense. You know, there

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02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 7: was nothing that defense could do to stop you, and

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02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 7: and so it was, you know, it was it was

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Speaker 7: unfortunate that it wound up. I did not think. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I could see the Bengals being better offensively, but I

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02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:50,760
Speaker 7: could not see. I could not see what was going on.

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02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't see that extent of what the

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Speaker 7: Bengals were able to do to the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm looking for silver linings, and I think

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Speaker 6: one of them is that they rediscovered Pat Fryarmouth. They

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02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 6: found him. It's when you have four touchdowns from your

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Speaker 6: tight ends. That seems to be an Artie Smith special.

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02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 6: That the offense for the most part, looked like it's

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02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,760
Speaker 6: supposed to. Uh, you got one thousand plus pounds of

2605
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 6: beef on the left side and you're gonna run the ball,

2606
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 6: You're gonna bludgeon people, and when you get down into

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Speaker 6: the red zone, you got four more than capable tight ends.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you do. And I think that Bill I think

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Speaker 7: I've said this before, but I really believe that this

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Speaker 7: is just going to be a matchup specific offense. You know,

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02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 7: where's Pat Fryermuth. Well, you know, when you need him,

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02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 7: he'll be there. There'll be games in which, you know,

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02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 7: you might have to spread it out more, and so

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02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 7: that'll be more Johnny Smith, more Friarmoth. We don't see

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02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,080
Speaker 7: a lot of three wide receivers in the Steelers. You

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02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 7: might see more of that in a given game. The

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Speaker 7: you know, the jumbo package is certainly working, so there's

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Speaker 7: no to go away from it right now, you know.

2619
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 7: And and again with the offensive line, I think some

2620
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 7: of the jumbo package allows the offense to line the

2621
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 7: ability to mature. We've talked about this, that you have

2622
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 7: two new starters of tackle. Broderick Jones is is really

2623
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 7: a first time starter at that critical left tackle position.

2624
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 7: And now this is the third time in the last

2625
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 7: four games in which Aaron Rodgers hasn't been sacked. Now,

2626
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 7: some of that's Rogers and getting ride a couple of times. Yeah,

2627
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 7: but you know what, sure, But first of all, how

2628
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 7: about the mobility by ro.

2629
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 5: He must have put a spring in there or something

2630
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 5: cut for his surgeon yeah, he was, uh.

2631
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 7: You know, Unfortunately the two interceptions, the one you know,

2632
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 7: trying to get it to DK metcalf deep. That was

2633
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 7: that was a bit of a force. You know, when

2634
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 7: when the ball left his hand, DK was really in

2635
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 7: no position to have an opportunity to make the play.

2636
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 5: I agree thought that that was an oak decision, but

2637
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 5: a bad execution. And I agree with you. I don't

2638
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 5: think that ball should have been thrown.

2639
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, when it left his hand, I looked up because

2640
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 7: he knew where he was going, and you know, the

2641
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,440
Speaker 7: the receive the cornerback was already well deeper.

2642
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 4: Now.

2643
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 7: You know the old, the old cornerback receiver line that

2644
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 7: I heard many years ago was if we're even, I'm leaving, right.

2645
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 7: If you're the wide receiver, right, if we're even, I'm

2646
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 7: gonna blow by you to go catch the ball. If

2647
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 7: we're even, I'm leaving. He wasn't even, and he was like,

2648
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,320
Speaker 7: maybe you know the defensive back look. He had about

2649
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 7: three yard cushion, So I didn't. I didn't think that

2650
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 7: was the best decision. But you know, the the other interception,

2651
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 7: that's just an incredible play by DJ Turner. I have

2652
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 7: no problem with that throw. No problem with the effort

2653
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 7: by DK Metcalf. How DJ Turner came down with that ball,

2654
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 7: I still don't know and got that la.

2655
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 6: On the excuse right, I mean to get hit though

2656
02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 6: it was a bang bang play between two defenders.

2657
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm with Rob on this.

2658
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 7: The second interception, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know

2659
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 7: how DJ Turner comes away with that. That's just a

2660
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 7: great and sometimes the other guy makes a great play

2661
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 7: and then you know, around that, Aaron Rodgers was spectacular again.

2662
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I look, this is a tough loss. This

2663
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 7: is a bitter pill to swallow for a lot of people,

2664
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 7: if you want to look, if if you wondered, you know,

2665
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 7: I was talking to some people from Cincinnati and you know,

2666
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 7: before the game and saying, hey, you know, what do

2667
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 7: your guys take on this Steelers because nationally there's not

2668
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 7: a lot a lot of love and of course some

2669
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 7: of that love is gonna leak out after last night's loss,

2670
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 7: and I think I think a lot of it because

2671
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 7: I'm I've been surprised, as I think I've said in

2672
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 7: these airways that that people, you know, don't think the

2673
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 7: Steelers are gonna have a good season and you know,

2674
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 7: this is coming on the heels of a loss, obviously,

2675
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 7: but I think one of them was that I don't

2676
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 7: know if a lot of people thought Aaron Rodgers still

2677
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 7: a lot left in the tank, Well we have seen

2678
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:01,160
Speaker 7: plenty of evidence that he has a lot left in

2679
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 7: the tank. And by the way, that last throw had

2680
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 7: to go seventy yards in the air. Sixty five seventy

2681
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:08,840
Speaker 7: yards in the air. I mean, he's and you know

2682
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 7: that's not you know, it's not like he had all

2683
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 7: day to step up and he had to kind of

2684
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 7: get rid of it before he got he got hit.

2685
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 7: So the yard around there, Yeah, yeah, the athleticism, I mean,

2686
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 7: there's a lot to like about as far as as

2687
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 7: far as I'm conserve with Aaron Rodgers, there's there's nothing

2688
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 7: to dislike. There's just there's just stuff to like.

2689
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 4: It looked like DK was supposed to be the underneath

2690
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 4: guy there, which I don't know. I would have had

2691
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:34,680
Speaker 4: him down, you know, coming back at the ball. But

2692
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 4: if he's two steps forward, I mean he's actually got

2693
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 4: a shot at that.

2694
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2695
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that notwithstanding look that was all set up

2696
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 4: because t Higgins made that brilliant play and slid and

2697
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 4: they ate up the clock. It seemed like there was

2698
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 4: a chess mass match going on there between coaches Friarmouth.

2699
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:55,920
Speaker 4: I don't know that you know, you want him to

2700
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 4: not score there, but that sixty eight yard touchdown. If

2701
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 4: they could some how, you know, make that happen five

2702
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 4: plays later, maybe it helps them out considerably. You know,

2703
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 4: they're kind of a victim of scoring too quick. And

2704
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 4: I was jokingly saying, but only half. So let the

2705
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 4: Bengals score. Just let them take it and get the

2706
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 4: ball back.

2707
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I mean, you know you can't not score there, right,

2708
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 7: especially because you needed a touchdown right exactly. I mean

2709
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 7: the Bengals just needed a field goal. That was a

2710
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 7: really really heads up play by t Higgins. I mean

2711
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 7: just just a smart play, and you'd just gotten to stop.

2712
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 3: Finally.

2713
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 7: They'd scored on was it seven straight possessions that they

2714
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 7: scored on before the students got that stop late in

2715
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 7: the game and got the ball back and then scored

2716
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 7: the very quick touchdown. So you know you're hoping, hey,

2717
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 7: is there one more stop in here? Do we have

2718
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 7: one more stop? And of course the answer was no,

2719
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 7: they didn't have one more stop. I mean, they only

2720
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,920
Speaker 7: really you know, they had the two early stops and

2721
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,320
Speaker 7: seven straight possessions of the score. I think it was

2722
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 7: seven and then and then that you couldn't come up

2723
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 7: with a stop when you needed to. And look, that's uh,

2724
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 7: you know, I understand the defense is tired, but that's

2725
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 7: the stop you want, you know, when you've got it,

2726
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 7: when you've got a defense it's playing as well as

2727
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 7: the Steelers defense has been playing. You know, that's the

2728
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 7: one more stop you need to get out of there

2729
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 7: with kind of a it would have felt like you

2730
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 7: stole a win there, but you know, that's where you're

2731
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:23,760
Speaker 7: hoping to get that stop from that defense, and it

2732
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 7: didn't happen.

2733
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 5: With that in mind, should Tom have gone forward fourth

2734
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 5: and four late in the fourth.

2735
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,720
Speaker 7: Well, I believe the sequence event events was they punted,

2736
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 7: they got the stop, and then they scored. So I

2737
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 7: mean I understood that.

2738
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 4: If they score, if they go and they score there,

2739
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 4: maybe the time works out so they get the ball last.

2740
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, they scored so fast. I mean, maybe they scored

2741
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 7: so fast, and you know I think that if look,

2742
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 7: you know, I I think about this a lot. For me,

2743
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:57,560
Speaker 7: it's very very difficult, uh to to you know, criticize

2744
02:12:57,560 --> 02:13:00,280
Speaker 7: your critique play calling, right, because I don't know what

2745
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 7: they're thinking. So the flea flicker, you know, you're you're

2746
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 7: rolling along in the first half.

2747
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:08,480
Speaker 4: Why why throw a trick play in there? Even even

2748
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 4: if it's called off? Why did it come in in

2749
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 4: the first place?

2750
02:13:11,080 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 7: Right? So you're right, that's that's one order thinking now.

2751
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 7: Of course, if it works, you know. And by the way,

2752
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 7: if they'd gotten it to John new Smith, there was

2753
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:23,480
Speaker 7: nobody I think it was intended for John who there

2754
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 7: was nobody on that side of the field, I mean nobody, right,

2755
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:28,600
Speaker 7: So you know, you script your plays. I don't know

2756
02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 7: if that's I don't know how much Arthur Smith's scripts plays,

2757
02:13:31,320 --> 02:13:32,920
Speaker 7: and I don't know whether that would have been in

2758
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 7: that scripted play sort of area where teams are probing

2759
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:38,440
Speaker 7: the other team's defense. You could, you know, you so

2760
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 7: you can say, oh, they you know, we should have

2761
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:42,080
Speaker 7: done this, shouldn't have done that. I'm sure that right

2762
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:43,680
Speaker 7: now they're thinking. I mean, I I don't know what

2763
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers was talking to Jalen Warren about. I don't

2764
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 7: know why the timing of that play was off. I

2765
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:51,080
Speaker 7: couldn't hear the audio. And again As I've said many

2766
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:54,360
Speaker 7: times before, I don't have the the the luxury of

2767
02:13:54,440 --> 02:13:57,440
Speaker 7: watching replays as much as I do when I'm at

2768
02:13:57,440 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 7: home on a couch. So I don't know what the

2769
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 7: conversation was. I don't know why the timing was off.

2770
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:04,440
Speaker 3: What the are you doing? Was the conversation? Yeah, I

2771
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 3: don't know why, But I don't know why him. What

2772
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 3: in the f he was doing?

2773
02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 4: Was it?

2774
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 7: Was it too late? Did he did he throw it

2775
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:11,840
Speaker 7: back to him too quickly?

2776
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2777
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:15,560
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers called off the checked out of that that call,

2778
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:20,800
Speaker 6: and everybody got that message, except apparently I.

2779
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 7: Did not realize that. Oh I So I literally had

2780
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 7: no idea until right now that that's what happened. Yeah, okay,

2781
02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:29,760
Speaker 7: So so you checked out of it.

2782
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 4: Uh, That's why I was surprised when you said Johnny

2783
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:34,160
Speaker 4: was wide open. I'm like, well, geez, why would you

2784
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 4: have checked out of it? Oh?

2785
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:37,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but well, I would say this

2786
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 7: because there were receivers flooding to the left side of

2787
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:41,520
Speaker 7: the field and there was nobody on the right side

2788
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 7: of the field. So if if, if there, if, if whatever,

2789
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:48,240
Speaker 7: that busted play had gotten to Johnny or Darnell. They're

2790
02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:50,480
Speaker 7: both standing there. There was nobody on that on the

2791
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 7: right defensive side, uh, the left for the Bengals, right

2792
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 7: for the Steelers. But but going back to play calling, right,

2793
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 7: you know, if you're gonna, if you were, if your

2794
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 7: mindset is go for it. This is what I always

2795
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,080
Speaker 7: think about those third downs on those third and four.

2796
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:04,720
Speaker 7: If your mindset it's go for it. Do you want

2797
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:06,680
Speaker 7: to run it there on third down right and get

2798
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 7: to fourth and one? Maybe? But do you But then again,

2799
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:13,320
Speaker 7: maybe you did call that, and maybe Aaron Rodgers saw

2800
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:15,440
Speaker 7: something he liked and check out it. That's why you know,

2801
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 7: when you when you so, I like, right now, I didn't.

2802
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 7: I didn't know that he checked out of that play.

2803
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:21,760
Speaker 7: So I don't know what what Aaron Rodgers did on

2804
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 7: third and four, you know, And I understand people critiquing that.

2805
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,240
Speaker 7: That's what fans do, and that's the kind of thing.

2806
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 7: I think. That's the sort of situation where a fan

2807
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 7: can say, hey, I should go for it, even on

2808
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 7: fourth and four. I totally get that that mentality. I

2809
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,000
Speaker 7: think it was a bit of a coin flip, but

2810
02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 7: it wound up, you know, being the right call at

2811
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 7: the right time. You know, because the stealers did get

2812
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 7: the ball back. If they don't get the ball back,

2813
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 7: that's all we're talking about right now. But they got

2814
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 7: the ball back.

2815
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:52,520
Speaker 4: Why do you think Herbig had so few snaps last night,

2816
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:55,920
Speaker 4: twenty eight out of seventy two defensive snaps.

2817
02:15:56,320 --> 02:16:00,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, no idea. You know, they were they

2818
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:04,160
Speaker 7: were shuffling a lot of personnel in and out. One

2819
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,480
Speaker 7: I think the defense got gassed. I don't know why

2820
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:07,360
Speaker 7: he wasn't out there more.

2821
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:09,800
Speaker 4: I don't Blaco was getting rid of the ball super quick.

2822
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:11,760
Speaker 4: That might have been part of it is that high

2823
02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 4: Smith has a bigger reach, And I mean, if you're

2824
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,520
Speaker 4: trying to stop the run all of a sudden, that's

2825
02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:17,080
Speaker 4: a problem.

2826
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 7: Yeah right, yeah. It felt like you know, and I

2827
02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:22,680
Speaker 7: would have to go back and watch this. You know,

2828
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 7: I kept looking up and seeing even in the middle

2829
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 7: of the field, this is the game war on, you know,

2830
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Speaker 7: defensive backs going in for defensive tackles, and defensive tackles

2831
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:34,120
Speaker 7: going in for defensive backs. You know, not, Hey, this

2832
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:37,160
Speaker 7: guy's gassed, so we're going to bring a tackle in

2833
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Speaker 7: for another tackle. Although I'm sure there were some of

2834
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 7: that too, So I just think it was, you know,

2835
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:43,879
Speaker 7: constantly trying to figure out what the Bengals were doing,

2836
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:47,360
Speaker 7: and and you know they they couldn't do it, and

2837
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:51,400
Speaker 7: they you know, it's a Bengals offense that they came

2838
02:16:51,480 --> 02:16:54,959
Speaker 7: in last in the NFL and rushing last and dead last.

2839
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 7: I mean they were and it wasn't even close. I

2840
02:16:56,920 --> 02:16:59,879
Speaker 7: mean they were you know, twenty they had sixty five

2841
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,240
Speaker 7: are rushing. They're twenty yards behind the next closest team

2842
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:07,280
Speaker 7: way back. And you know the fact that they were

2843
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 7: able to run the ball. You know, we did the

2844
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:12,640
Speaker 7: matchup show and my key was to not allow Chase

2845
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:16,120
Speaker 7: Brown to beat you just take that off the table, right.

2846
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 7: I mean, look, everyone's talking about Chase and I get that,

2847
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 7: and he and Higgins were great, and that's why they

2848
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:23,000
Speaker 7: have That's why those guys are getting paid that amount

2849
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:24,840
Speaker 7: of money. That's why you went out and got Flacco

2850
02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 7: right to unlock those guys. But when you add the

2851
02:17:27,400 --> 02:17:30,120
Speaker 7: Chase Brown element on top of it, you're you know,

2852
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 7: that's what that's the offense the Bengals envision. That's not

2853
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:35,959
Speaker 7: the defense of Steelers in envision.

2854
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Speaker 13: I want to talk about Aaron Rodgers this hour, but

2881
02:18:58,280 --> 02:19:01,600
Speaker 13: before I do, I was in the other office cutting

2882
02:19:01,680 --> 02:19:05,119
Speaker 13: some tape and I heard Rob King and Bill Crawford

2883
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:09,760
Speaker 13: exonerating DK Metcalf on an alleged great play by a

2884
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:15,199
Speaker 13: miniature defensive back. And I would only counter with DK

2885
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:19,040
Speaker 13: Metcalf's assessment of what transpired on that particular play in

2886
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Speaker 13: last night's thirty three thirty one Bengals victory over the Steelers.

2887
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Speaker 3: And I, quote, I got a hold onto the f

2888
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:31,800
Speaker 3: and ball end quote. I love the accountability, I love

2889
02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:35,120
Speaker 3: the accuracy. He's got a hold on into the F

2890
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Speaker 3: and ball.

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Speaker 7: That was a big one.

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Speaker 4: And as you pointed out, you know, when you, Mike,

2893
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Speaker 4: you sort of set it up to illustrate how many

2894
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:46,959
Speaker 4: points they left on the field.

2895
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 13: Left And I don't even go like they went into

2896
02:19:50,840 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 13: that game last night had not given up a point

2897
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:56,440
Speaker 13: off a turnover. When you turn the ball over at

2898
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:59,400
Speaker 13: the other team's twenty yard line and they drive down

2899
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:01,600
Speaker 13: to score. I don't consider that a point off the turno, right,

2900
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:03,240
Speaker 13: consider that a point off the defense.

2901
02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:06,280
Speaker 3: But it's what they left on the field, and.

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02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:08,640
Speaker 13: Particularly at the time they did it, when they had

2903
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,880
Speaker 13: a great start and they were dominating early, and Kirk

2904
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:15,320
Speaker 13: kurb Street is telling the national audience Cincinnati pass rush

2905
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 13: has not existed. That's when you strike, and that's when

2906
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:19,880
Speaker 13: you put them away early.

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02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:20,160
Speaker 2: Oh.

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02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:22,280
Speaker 4: I think we all thought watching that game, the first

2909
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:26,040
Speaker 4: even the two drive, even after the botched flea flicker. Again,

2910
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:28,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why that play is even called there,

2911
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:31,000
Speaker 4: But even after that, you're like, well, these guys aren't

2912
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 4: going to stop us, and they're just playing with their food,

2913
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,880
Speaker 4: and they should stop because, you know, let's put the

2914
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:38,800
Speaker 4: pedal down now. And then it was too late because

2915
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:41,200
Speaker 4: it started to turn into a shutout or a shootout

2916
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:41,959
Speaker 4: rather and.

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02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,080
Speaker 5: They were on the wrong side of it. They were

2918
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:46,200
Speaker 5: trying to make up Chase mode.

2919
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Bengals were unfortunately in Chase mode as well. Yeah.

2920
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Chase Brown and Jamar Jamar were wide open.

2921
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: A lot of problems obviously to what should forever be

2923
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 13: remembered as the disaster in Cincinnati, but Aaron Rodgers will

2924
02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 13: imperfect still managed to shine to the degree that he

2925
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,039
Speaker 13: called what could have been the game winning touchdown pass

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02:21:12,080 --> 02:21:14,520
Speaker 13: to Pat Fryarmuth at halftime.

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Speaker 26: Well, I mean on that one, I'd actually told him

2928
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:21,240
Speaker 26: on the sidelines. Hey, no, I told him at halftime.

2929
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:24,280
Speaker 26: I said, if we come back, and I called this play,

2930
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:31,120
Speaker 26: be ready because I saw something one of one of

2931
02:21:31,160 --> 02:21:34,920
Speaker 26: the pictures on the sideline in the first half. So

2932
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 26: at halftime, I pulled him aside and I think it'd

2933
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 26: be third and eighteen from the nineteen, but they clouded

2934
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:44,000
Speaker 26: pretty hard to decay and Pat did a nice shout

2935
02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:46,080
Speaker 26: down the middle, and it's really the same play on

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Speaker 26: the second touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Rob.

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Speaker 4: One of the positives last night, of the silver linings

2939
02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 4: of the loss was the re emergence of friar Mouth,

2940
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:56,160
Speaker 4: and you know, credit to Rum and Wilson, a couple

2941
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 4: of tough catches there came up big when they needed

2942
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:02,000
Speaker 4: him to. But in particular, without Austin being there, they

2943
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:03,240
Speaker 4: had to get something out of him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, unless they just kept running the ball, and then

2945
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:12,160
Speaker 7: they wouldn't have had to. Yeah, I like, yeah, I really,

2946
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 7: I just keep I know I'm beating this drum, but

2947
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:15,959
Speaker 7: I keep going back to this. I just think it's

2948
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 7: gonna be matchup oriented, you know, And I understand people saying, hey,

2949
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 7: we need another number two receiver, and they may go

2950
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:24,840
Speaker 7: out and get that. They may go out and make

2951
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,800
Speaker 7: another trade before the trade deadline and maybe another position.

2952
02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:29,320
Speaker 7: I don't know, but I just think that they were

2953
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 7: you know, as long as everybody stays healthy, they've got

2954
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:34,320
Speaker 7: another they've got a number one receiver, and they've got

2955
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:37,680
Speaker 7: plenty of different targets. If we go heavy, maybe Darnell Washington.

2956
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Speaker 7: I would be surprised if Spencer Anderson as a catch

2957
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:41,560
Speaker 7: in here somewhere too. By the way they have to.

2958
02:22:42,120 --> 02:22:44,840
Speaker 7: I just think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be,

2959
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 7: you know, a by committee. And hey, this week you're

2960
02:22:49,480 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 7: the guy, Pat Fryermuth, you're the guy we love the matchups.

2961
02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:54,240
Speaker 7: Next week it might be John hus Smith. I just

2962
02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:55,360
Speaker 7: think that's the way it's gonna be.

2963
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 6: And why can't you do what the Bengals did last night?

2964
02:22:58,320 --> 02:23:00,440
Speaker 6: When you have a guy like DK, why can't you

2965
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:05,720
Speaker 6: throw it to him twenty three times? He's not that

2966
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:10,000
Speaker 6: kind of receivers. He's like Jamar Chases is the ab

2967
02:23:10,240 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 6: type where the route running just gets him open more often.

2968
02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Well, but like what Rob was saying, though they're cloud

2969
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 4: and DK, you know you can't do that to Jamar

2970
02:23:19,160 --> 02:23:22,080
Speaker 4: because then you have Higgins, like they don't have that

2971
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:24,480
Speaker 4: without Austin there, there's nobody else to worry about.

2972
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:27,119
Speaker 13: Well no, but that's the point that the Friarmuth played

2973
02:23:27,160 --> 02:23:29,960
Speaker 13: when he said they're clouding DK. Hertstreet called that a

2974
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,000
Speaker 13: blowing coverage on TV. I didn't think it was. Gino

2975
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:35,360
Speaker 13: Stone was a safety on that hash and he went

2976
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:37,960
Speaker 13: to Metcalf running a streak down the sideline. They were

2977
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 13: doubling Metcalf at that point, so Friarmuth was the single

2978
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:43,879
Speaker 13: coverage and Rogers hit him and it was a home

2979
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:47,280
Speaker 13: run touchdown that could have won the game. I think

2980
02:23:47,320 --> 02:23:49,120
Speaker 13: they need more receiver, but whether they get it or

2981
02:23:49,160 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 13: they don't, they have enough eligibles and they have the

2982
02:23:52,120 --> 02:23:54,920
Speaker 13: quarterback who will find the guy who needs to get

2983
02:23:54,959 --> 02:23:57,880
Speaker 13: the ball way more often than not. They have a

2984
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 13: golden opportunity with Rogers to really be something this year

2985
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:04,360
Speaker 13: besides nine and eight, one and done. But the rest

2986
02:24:04,400 --> 02:24:05,800
Speaker 13: of the guys got to hold up their end. They

2987
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:08,440
Speaker 13: got to stop letting them down like they did last night.

2988
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:12,160
Speaker 13: Jalen Warrens got to get the call on the non

2989
02:24:12,280 --> 02:24:15,480
Speaker 13: flea flicker, and Rogers confirmed that. He said, quote, it

2990
02:24:15,640 --> 02:24:18,320
Speaker 13: wasn't supposed to be a flea flicker. Tomlin said it

2991
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:20,920
Speaker 13: was called, and then Rogers said it wasn't supposed to

2992
02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:24,080
Speaker 13: be a flea flicker, which are not contradictory statements. It

2993
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:27,040
Speaker 13: was called, and then Rogers decided, no, we're not doing this,

2994
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 13: and ten guys got it and one guy didn't. These

2995
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:32,360
Speaker 13: are the kind of things that kill you in a

2996
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:36,840
Speaker 13: big game. You just can't have this stuff. The Seattle

2997
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:41,000
Speaker 13: game when Jackson Smith the Jigma beats Jalen Ramsey at

2998
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:43,240
Speaker 13: a critical moment and the coverage is tight and he

2999
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:46,520
Speaker 13: makes a great catch. Okay, hats off to him. Some

3000
02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:48,800
Speaker 13: of the plays Chase made last night, hats off to him.

3001
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:51,840
Speaker 13: But you can't help them. You can't help and they

3002
02:24:51,959 --> 02:24:54,840
Speaker 13: helped them too much. But the reason if you're a

3003
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 13: Steelers fan and you're wondering, why should I continue to

3004
02:24:58,240 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 13: be enthused about.

3005
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 3: This, the reason is Rob Rogers. That's the hard part.

3006
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 3: They haven't had a quarterback since pre Ben injury. They

3007
02:25:07,080 --> 02:25:08,960
Speaker 3: have one, now fix the rest of it.

3008
02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 7: Yeah. I said the same thing Mike in the last

3009
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 7: segment that you know, talking to people in Cincinnati and

3010
02:25:17,720 --> 02:25:20,199
Speaker 7: asking them why they thought, you know, the Steelers weren't

3011
02:25:20,200 --> 02:25:22,520
Speaker 7: predicted for more wins, and they said, you know, I

3012
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:26,200
Speaker 7: think largely they were kind of thinking the same thing

3013
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:28,920
Speaker 7: nine and eight, ten and seven, you know, that sort

3014
02:25:28,959 --> 02:25:32,560
Speaker 7: of team. But they they they were unsure about Rogers. Well,

3015
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:34,600
Speaker 7: I don't know how you could watch Rogers last night

3016
02:25:35,080 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 7: and be unsure about them. I have watched them all season.

3017
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:38,840
Speaker 7: I mean the mobility, the arm.

3018
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:42,240
Speaker 3: Strength, even the hail Mary at the end. He got

3019
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 3: it into the end zone from seventy yards away. That's right,

3020
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:48,680
Speaker 3: My god, they got a chance there like this guy,

3021
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:51,640
Speaker 3: you got a shot here, don't yeh? Next year we

3022
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:56,080
Speaker 3: don't know right now is what they have tangible? And

3023
02:25:56,200 --> 02:25:57,760
Speaker 3: if they waste this, shame on them.

3024
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, because again, finding the core is the really hard part,

3025
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:03,400
Speaker 13: as we all know in Pittsburgh.

3026
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 7: And I know you say the offense let you down.

3027
02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:07,280
Speaker 7: I know you have to. You have to win the

3028
02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:09,280
Speaker 7: game in front of you, right, you have to find

3029
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 7: a way to win that game. And if that means

3030
02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:12,240
Speaker 7: you win it three to two, you win it three

3031
02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:14,240
Speaker 7: to two. If it means you win it one hundred

3032
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:16,119
Speaker 7: to ninety nine, you win it one hundred and ninety nine.

3033
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:19,120
Speaker 7: But you score thirty one points, you should win. Not

3034
02:26:19,280 --> 02:26:22,120
Speaker 7: against them, not against them. No, I mean that's right.

3035
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 7: You have to play the game in front of you.

3036
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:27,440
Speaker 7: But you know you needed some stops on defense. And

3037
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:29,640
Speaker 7: what is it seven straight possessions? I think they or

3038
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:31,840
Speaker 7: you know one at the end, like they saved.

3039
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:34,880
Speaker 13: They saved the Jets game, which was slappy, but they

3040
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 13: won because the defense got to stop. They saved the

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Speaker 13: New England game because they got to stop. They saved

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Speaker 13: the Minnesota game because it got close to them, but

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Speaker 13: they got to stop. Last night, they didn't get to stop.

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Speaker 13: They lose.

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Speaker 4: YEP, Rob King with us a power hour of Steeler Talk,

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Speaker 2: the twenty to ten.

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Speaker 5: The five touchdown fire moot.

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Speaker 1: Want to play sixty eight yards Rogers with.

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Speaker 4: The late magic Oh if that were only as time

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Speaker 4: was running out. A great call there by Rob King,

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Speaker 4: who's joining us here on a power hour Steeler talk

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Speaker 4: on DVE.

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Speaker 5: Sixty eight yard are there to Friarman and boy he

3074
02:28:01,879 --> 02:28:02,280
Speaker 5: needed that.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe he's waking up in this offense, which

3076
02:28:04,959 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 4: would be welcome news, no doubt to the Bengals.

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Speaker 13: Before playing Cincinnati. There's a good match up there and

3078
02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:15,680
Speaker 13: that's you know, certain guys on both sides of the ball.

3079
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:17,280
Speaker 13: With this team are going to be weak to week

3080
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:19,360
Speaker 13: in terms of their contributions. It's not going to be

3081
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:22,000
Speaker 13: a steady thing. Whether they end up being a good

3082
02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:23,840
Speaker 13: football team or not, they're going to be a bad

3083
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Speaker 13: fantasy team.

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Speaker 4: Bill, You've been talking about this all morning. With one

3085
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Speaker 4: solace you're getting out of this is the misery of

3086
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Speaker 4: Browns fans.

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02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Cleveland's a mess, and it's glorious.

3088
02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:37,920
Speaker 4: Tony Rizzo with a popular sports talk guy up there

3089
02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:40,720
Speaker 4: in Cleveland who almost had an aneurysm earlier in the week.

3090
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:42,800
Speaker 4: Now he really ought to have a doctor president. This

3091
02:28:42,920 --> 02:28:43,880
Speaker 4: is from this morning show.

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Speaker 7: How could you do that?

3093
02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Andrew?

3094
02:28:46,120 --> 02:28:47,040
Speaker 7: How could you do it?

3095
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 27: Why on earth did you feel the need to trade

3096
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:55,600
Speaker 27: this guy to a division opponent for a fifth round

3097
02:28:55,760 --> 02:29:01,160
Speaker 27: draft big fireable offense? That is a fire offense. I

3098
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 27: want to know how much longer the owner's gonna watch

3099
02:29:04,400 --> 02:29:07,120
Speaker 27: this crap because the fans have had it.

3100
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 5: We deserve better.

3101
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:12,080
Speaker 27: You just worried more about your stadium than you are

3102
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 27: your football team. That's the perception, Jimmy, and you allow

3103
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,680
Speaker 27: these people to do this. You have the worst offense

3104
02:29:18,760 --> 02:29:22,120
Speaker 27: in the league. Your GM screwed this quarterback thing up

3105
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 27: like I've never seen in my life. I've never seen

3106
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 27: anything like kids to play. Madden could have done a

3107
02:29:28,320 --> 02:29:28,920
Speaker 27: better job.

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02:29:29,640 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Truly.

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Speaker 27: That's not hyperbole. It's a joke. It's a joke. This

3110
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:37,040
Speaker 27: franchise has become a joke.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. It's they've been a joke.

3112
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Speaker 6: But just in the year, in the off season that

3113
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Speaker 6: they wanted to take themselves out of the headlines pertaining

3114
02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:55,240
Speaker 6: to quarterbacks, they have bungled it and brownsed it in

3115
02:29:55,400 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 6: a way that they've never done before.

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Speaker 4: Well, they might have Deshaun Watson playing quarter back before

3117
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:02,440
Speaker 4: she door Sanders before it's all said and done, because

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Speaker 4: importedly he is on the end here, and.

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Speaker 13: You might have Baker Mayfield as your MVP, and Joe

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02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:08,840
Speaker 13: Fleco is your comeback player of the.

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Speaker 28: Yearlievable, all right, But yeah, one of these guys, Gabriel

3122
02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:18,400
Speaker 28: or Sanders looks like the one they're gonna be back

3123
02:30:18,480 --> 02:30:20,600
Speaker 28: at the trough next year picking a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: What's the uh What is the biggest challenge for Mike

3125
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:26,440
Speaker 4: Tomlin in these ten days in terms of what do

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Speaker 4: you fix?

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Speaker 3: First?

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Speaker 7: Rob King? Oh, I don't know, I mean, I you know,

3129
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:34,840
Speaker 7: every game is different. Like Mike just said about, you know,

3130
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 7: spreading the wealth offensively, I think every game is gonna

3131
02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 7: be different. It's a good way of putting it. There's

3132
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Speaker 7: not gonna be a fantasy superstar on this team, probably

3133
02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:47,240
Speaker 7: nobody that's going to carry your fantasy team to a title,

3134
02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 7: because they're gonna spread it out. And I think defensively,

3135
02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:52,320
Speaker 7: it's just the next challenge. You know, this defense had

3136
02:30:52,360 --> 02:30:55,320
Speaker 7: been trending so well. But again, you know, you have

3137
02:30:55,480 --> 02:30:58,600
Speaker 7: to point out this is what Cincinnati is supposed to

3138
02:30:58,720 --> 02:31:01,400
Speaker 7: look like. This is why they have all that money

3139
02:31:01,879 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 7: into Chase and into Higgins. They've got Chase brown They're

3140
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:07,920
Speaker 7: always going to have an opportunity to put up points

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Speaker 7: like this against an opponent always, now that they have

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Speaker 7: a quarterback that the controls Chase Browning. Again we said

3143
02:31:12,959 --> 02:31:16,760
Speaker 7: it before, he is he just really really Jake Browning,

3144
02:31:17,080 --> 02:31:26,520
Speaker 7: really really combining. Jake Browning really struggling. He struggles, and

3145
02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, so I think that it's just weak to week,

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02:31:30,040 --> 02:31:31,720
Speaker 7: it's a different it's gonna be a different challenge. With

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Speaker 7: Green Bay, they're really good. They've got a power running

3148
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 7: game with Jacobs. I think Jacobs is an outstanding running back,

3149
02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:42,480
Speaker 7: really good quarterback, playing really well at defense. It's improved

3150
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:43,360
Speaker 7: with Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 13: So it's you know, different weeks, different challengesnning team in

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Speaker 13: the way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's stopped the damn run. It's really object number one.

3154
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:54,760
Speaker 6: If you ask anybody on the defense, especially Cam Ayward.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:59,400
Speaker 13: He's not wrong, he's not wrong. We got time for

3157
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:02,160
Speaker 13: one more a Rogers clip because I wanted to hit

3158
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:04,280
Speaker 13: this during sports. We didn't get to it. But uh,

3159
02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:08,720
Speaker 13: just a couple of details. When Rogers said it wasn't

3160
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:11,640
Speaker 13: supposed to be a fleet flicker, he did not say

3161
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Speaker 13: anything else. He didn't throw Jyalen Warren under the bus,

3162
02:32:14,840 --> 02:32:18,160
Speaker 13: so to speak, by pointing out the accurate mistake that

3163
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:26,440
Speaker 13: was made. He regarding regarding his interception. Uh, not the

3164
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:29,480
Speaker 13: one that on which DK metcalf has to hold onto

3165
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 13: the f and ball.

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Speaker 3: The other one. He said, quote, I was just kind

3167
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Speaker 3: of throwing to a spot. I got to go back

3168
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:36,800
Speaker 3: and look at it. I think he threw to the

3169
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Speaker 3: wrong spot.

3170
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Speaker 13: But definitely summing up, you know, the opportunity that was

3171
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:45,480
Speaker 13: lost last night could have had a four game lead

3172
02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:48,039
Speaker 13: to lost calumn on every team in the division. Could

3173
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Speaker 13: have been undefeated still in the conference, could have been

3174
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Speaker 13: undefeated in the North.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 13: Rogers well aware of everything that was lost besides the

3177
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Speaker 13: game last night, but he also assessed where they are

3178
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:01,240
Speaker 13: in the aftermath with the perspect active of a forty

3179
02:33:01,320 --> 02:33:03,480
Speaker 13: one year old twenty one year vet.

3180
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Speaker 26: Well, I think you got to realize, listen, we want

3181
02:33:05,720 --> 02:33:08,840
Speaker 26: to win every game. There needs to be an expectation

3182
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:12,160
Speaker 26: of winning. But uh, this is a short week division opponent.

3183
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:15,480
Speaker 26: Anything that happened, obviously, Joe played really well for them,

3184
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:20,680
Speaker 26: and and Chase and t got going for him. But

3185
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 26: this is the NFL. You know, we had a chance

3186
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:25,320
Speaker 26: to really open up some space. But with four and

3187
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:29,440
Speaker 26: two still first in the division, got a couple you know,

3188
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:32,480
Speaker 26: home games coming up back to back, another Sunday night

3189
02:33:32,600 --> 02:33:37,000
Speaker 26: opportunity against my former team. So I'm not going to

3190
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:39,960
Speaker 26: ride the roller coaster, and I know Mike isn't and

3191
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:41,360
Speaker 26: hopefully you guys follow suit.

3192
02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:44,840
Speaker 3: Got to shake it off and be better. But you know,

3193
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:45,640
Speaker 3: you can't wallow.

3194
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:49,240
Speaker 13: And I love how I mentioned my former team because

3195
02:33:49,240 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 13: I think he's going to downplay a little bit the

3196
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:56,760
Speaker 13: Green Bay matchups. That's a big deals next week progresses,

3197
02:33:56,840 --> 02:33:58,240
Speaker 13: but it's got to be a huge deal and good.

3198
02:33:58,280 --> 02:33:59,960
Speaker 13: Maybe that's what they need, you know, rally around here

3199
02:34:00,680 --> 02:34:02,119
Speaker 13: beat the Packers for Aaron Rodgers.

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02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:04,520
Speaker 4: That wraps up a power hour of Steeler Talk with

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02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:07,200
Speaker 4: Rob King, Voice of the Steelers on the Steelers Audio Network,

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02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:09,600
Speaker 4: brought to you by your Neighborhood Ford Store and Clearview

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Speaker 4: Federal Credit Union. Also thanks the guy Junker for joining

3204
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Speaker 4: us earlier this morning. Thursday Night football finishes with thirty

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Speaker 4: three thirty one Final The Bengals best Mike Tomlin again

3206
02:34:22,400 --> 02:34:23,320
Speaker 4: on a Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: No blame on a third You think that's all circumstantial.

3208
02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:31,600
Speaker 13: Circumstances are a factor. It's hard for the road team

3209
02:34:31,640 --> 02:34:32,360
Speaker 13: on Thursday night.

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02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 3: That's just math.

3211
02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 5: It makes sense. Also, I want to blame him.

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02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:43,160
Speaker 4: Let me say that it all looks the same and

3213
02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:45,840
Speaker 4: it's the exact same defense, and everybody knows exactly what's

3214
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:47,760
Speaker 4: coming every time. Jamar Chase said it after the game,

3215
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:49,720
Speaker 4: we knew everything that they were going to do, and

3216
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:52,039
Speaker 4: they did it just like we thought they would.

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02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he knew what they were going to do.

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02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:55,600
Speaker 3: Meeting the Bengals, well.

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02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:57,640
Speaker 5: Placo didn't know what they were gonna do, and it

3220
02:34:57,680 --> 02:34:58,119
Speaker 5: didn't matter.

3221
02:34:58,280 --> 02:34:59,640
Speaker 13: Let me ask you guys this before we get out

3222
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:01,520
Speaker 13: of here. That was Joe Burrow playing last night. It

3223
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:02,440
Speaker 13: was exact same game.

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02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Would you feel different about it? Yeah, a little bit.

3225
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 3: I'd still be frustrated.

3226
02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:10,160
Speaker 13: You didn't buy the Flacco could activate these guys going

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02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:10,560
Speaker 13: in right.

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02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:11,880
Speaker 3: No, not like that.

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02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:14,240
Speaker 4: No. I thought he would have to settle into it.

3230
02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean it took him a half maybe to get

3231
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:19,200
Speaker 4: into it. Rob you alluded this earlier in Green Bay,

3232
02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 4: but it literally only took him a two series and

3233
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:26,200
Speaker 4: he was in full Flacco.

3234
02:35:26,560 --> 02:35:28,960
Speaker 5: He went full flighting to never go full Flaco. He

3235
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:29,760
Speaker 5: went full Flaco.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just you know, just real quick look around the NFL, right,

3237
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 7: you know, you think Detroit's a super team. They get

3238
02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:39,880
Speaker 7: waxed by the Chiefs. I saw the power rankings. One

3239
02:35:39,920 --> 02:35:42,160
Speaker 7: of them had the Bills third, another had him fifteenth.

3240
02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:45,320
Speaker 7: You could really throw it. You can seriously throw a

3241
02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:47,800
Speaker 7: net over one through twenty and twenty, and the power

3242
02:35:47,879 --> 02:35:50,760
Speaker 7: rankings for all of them is Houston. I wouldn't be

3243
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:53,640
Speaker 7: shocked if Houston makes a deep run into the playoffs.

3244
02:35:53,800 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 7: I just think I can't remember a year that it's

3245
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 7: been this balanced, you know, it's been a long time

3246
02:35:59,360 --> 02:36:01,960
Speaker 7: since they didn't have a unbeaten team uh later in

3247
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:03,560
Speaker 7: the season than they did this year. It's just a

3248
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:06,800
Speaker 7: it is just a balanced league right now, and I

3249
02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:08,760
Speaker 7: you know, I think, like like you said, it's just

3250
02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:10,800
Speaker 7: week to week and move on to Green Bay and

3251
02:36:10,879 --> 02:36:11,120
Speaker 7: let's go.

3252
02:36:12,040 --> 02:36:15,600
Speaker 4: Thanks Carger, appreciate you all right, guys. Rochelle is coming

3253
02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:19,040
Speaker 4: up with the Electric Lunch at noon. Reminder, I'll be

3254
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:20,880
Speaker 4: at the Thunderbird tonight. You want to hear some Jerry

3255
02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 4: Garcia band. Nobody better doing that than Reuben's Painted Mandolin.

3256
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 4: It's a double bill with Danny Recht and Waalt's favorite band.

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Speaker 4: And when I pimped it earlier, Michael was like, so,

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Speaker 4: who's Danny Recktonwalt's favorite band.

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Speaker 29: I'm like, no, that's that's the name of the band. Second, yeah, Thunderbird.

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Speaker 29: I'm sure you stay classy. Pittsburgh, don't touch your face.

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Speaker 11: I got him time, Pittsburgh Berby.

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Speaker 3: But now you guys call me Ronald?

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Speaker 5: Would you not eat my pants?

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Speaker 11: Ronald? Normal sizemip.

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Speaker 5: To just checking mane.

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Speaker 11: Why go go ahead? Nipples the same size as every ball.

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Speaker 20: Bye, a great Friday.

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Speaker 16: You mother, It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE,

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Speaker 16: at shop dot Steelers dot com. Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 17: A shootout broke out in Cincinnati Thursday night between the

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Speaker 17: Steelers and Bengals. The two teams combined for sixty four

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Speaker 17: total points and for eight hundred and sixty six total

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Speaker 17: yards of offense as the Steelers were upset by Cincy

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Speaker 17: thirty three to thirty one in a game that was

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Speaker 17: dubbed the Icy Hot Bowl. Featuring two starting quarterbacks over

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Speaker 17: the age of forty for just the third time in

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Speaker 17: NFL history, it was the old timers at quarterback who

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Speaker 17: stole the show. Aaron Rodgers threw for two hundred and

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Speaker 17: forty nine yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions, while Joe

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Speaker 17: Flacco threw for three hundred and forty two yards and

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Speaker 17: three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: With no interceptions.

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Speaker 17: The story of the game was, no doubt, the inability

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Speaker 17: of the Steelers defense to stop Cincinnati's rushing attack, which

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Speaker 17: entered the game as the worst rushing offense in the end,

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Speaker 17: and their inability to slow down star wide receiver Jamar

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Speaker 17: Chase in any way whatsoever, since he put up one

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Speaker 17: hundred and forty two yards on the ground as a team,

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Speaker 17: one hundred and eight of them coming from Chase Brown,

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Speaker 17: who averaged an incredible nine point eight yards per carry.

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Speaker 17: Jamar Chase was targeted a jaw dropping twenty three times

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Speaker 17: by Joe Flacco, by far the most targets a receiver

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Speaker 17: has had in the NFL this season, catching sixteen of

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Speaker 17: them for one hundred and sixty one yards in one touchdown.

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Speaker 17: As the Steelers just had no answers for the All

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Speaker 17: Pro Triple Crown winning wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tom Opraman with the Steelers report.

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