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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wor Now. More of the

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Speaker 1: wr Saturday Morning Show and Larry Mantee welcome back. The

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Speaker 1: voter turnout was record setting, the outcome expected. Democratic Socialist

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Speaker 1: Zora and mom. Donnie is the mayor elect of New

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Speaker 1: York City and political analyst J. C. Polanco is not

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Speaker 1: happy about it. So, JC, have you decided where you're

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Speaker 1: gonna move to yet?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna stay right here and we're going to keep our

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Speaker 2: eyes on the new administration. And like many of your

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Speaker 2: your listeners, we're gonna stay right here. We're gonna fight

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Speaker 2: it out. And the truth is that the people that

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Speaker 2: could move out, the one percent that pay the fifty

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Speaker 2: one percent of all of the income taxes in New

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Speaker 2: York City, are they may leave very that's very different, Larry. Right,

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Speaker 2: these folks are paying the overwhelming majority of the taxes

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Speaker 2: for our social services, and I think they have the

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Speaker 2: most options when it comes to where they go if

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Speaker 2: taxes are raised on businesses and people that are successful

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Speaker 2: and people that we need to stay in New York City.

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Speaker 2: So let's hope they don't leave, because we desperately need them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked to somebody a couple of weeks ago from

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Speaker 1: a corporate location services company, and he said that he

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Speaker 1: was getting phone calls months before the election. They were

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Speaker 1: already they were already planning on moving not just individuals, corporations.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about moving out of the city. So I

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Speaker 1: think that they're just getting prepared in case the worst

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Speaker 1: happens and they can quickly get out of the city.

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Speaker 1: That would just if that happens JC, If if the

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Speaker 1: top one percent of earners and corporations move out of

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Speaker 1: the city, it'll cripple the city.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's there's no question about it. You know, I

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Speaker 2: understand that, you know, we all matter, We're all very important.

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Speaker 2: That's true. But you have to remember that our city

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Speaker 2: is very expensive to run, and we have a city

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Speaker 2: where we're spending more money for people than any where

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Speaker 2: else on the planet. The tax consequence here in New

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Speaker 2: York City is very, very high, and that is being

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Speaker 2: paid majority by the top one and two percent. So

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Speaker 2: if they were to leave, it leads the rest of

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Speaker 2: us with the bill to pay, and that's when it's

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Speaker 2: going to be very tough having to increase taxes on

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Speaker 2: middle class New Yorkers, and I hope that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 2: but let's be positive. I just don't see how you

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Speaker 2: can tell folks that you're going to increase their rent

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Speaker 2: and they're going to stay when they can go somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope there's a change of tone. I didn't hear

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Speaker 2: it last night during the victory speech, Larry. But let's

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Speaker 2: hope there's a change of tone in some moderation and

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Speaker 2: reality hits that you need these people here. We need

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Speaker 2: to ensure that they stay as part of the New

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Speaker 2: York City family so that you know, we can pay

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Speaker 2: for schools and for our roads and for our police

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Speaker 2: and everything else that we need to pay for.

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Speaker 1: Now, explain what you just meant when you said I

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Speaker 1: didn't hear that last night in the victory speech. What

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Speaker 1: did you hear?

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Speaker 2: Well, Look, yesterday I heard an assemblment, Mom, Donnie, and

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Speaker 2: congratulations to the assemblement for winning. It's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge learning curve. I never thought this would happen.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we can analyze and so how and

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Speaker 2: why that happened. But it wasn't a magnanimous speech. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't a speech of you know, let me tell the

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Speaker 2: half of New York that didn't vote for me that

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Speaker 2: everything was going to be okay, and you know, we

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Speaker 2: are going to be pragmatic in our approach. I didn't

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Speaker 2: hear that there were you know, it was almost like

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Speaker 2: a very well scripted victory speech where every single ethnic

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Speaker 2: group and immigrant group got a shout out. And you know,

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Speaker 2: if you close your eyes, you would think that the

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Speaker 2: assemblyman was a son of poor immigrants, like I am right.

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Speaker 2: You would think that his dad drove a cab and

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Speaker 2: that his mom was a home attendant somewhere in the city.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't realize that the man is a multi millionaire

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Speaker 2: who comes from a very successful family. And I think

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Speaker 2: that was very very well done, that script, because if

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Speaker 2: they put your mind in somewhere else and you would

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Speaker 2: never think those things. And I think that the way

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Speaker 2: he talked about Andrew Comal, let's revisit that part where

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Speaker 2: he says, I wish him best in private life, and

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Speaker 2: I hope to never utter his name. Former Governor Cmo

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Speaker 2: what he said, I congratulate the Assemblyment on winning. People booed,

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Speaker 2: and former Governor Colmo said, no, no, no, that's not

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Speaker 2: how we do because that's not who we are. And

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Speaker 2: I thought that was indicative of, you know, how the

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Speaker 2: like to hear that kind of tone. But there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of great things that came out of last

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Speaker 2: night's results. And last night's results showed that half of

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Speaker 2: New York opposes socialism. Half of New York said no

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Speaker 2: to higher taxes, no to bad moudling our police, no

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Speaker 2: to not globalizing the intafada. A half of New Yorkers

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Speaker 2: are going to be very upset today that, you know,

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Speaker 2: their candidate didn't win. So it wasn't as if he

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Speaker 2: won with a huge mandate. In Lasty Larry, seven of

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Speaker 2: every ten voters in New York City is Democrat. In

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Speaker 2: order for you to lose a Democratic primary in New

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Speaker 2: York City with such large margins, it would take a miracle.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, it's incredibly clear to me that the

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Speaker 2: Assemblyman underperformed yesterday, considering that he won barely fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: So keep that in mind, and that seventy percent of

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Speaker 2: New York City voters are Democrats. They vote, many of

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Speaker 2: them voted against their own parties candidate, so he underperformed

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Speaker 2: compared to Eric Adams, compared to Bill de Blasio, And

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Speaker 2: I think that when you take a look at Mikey

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Speaker 2: Sheryl and other Democrats, more centrist Democrats did much better

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Speaker 2: last night than socialists did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get back to what you said,

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Speaker 1: because I thought the same thing. I thought we saw

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Speaker 1: a side of zorin Mamdanni that he never showed to

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Speaker 1: us during the campaign, and especially when he said exactly

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Speaker 1: what you brought up a moment ago, I never want

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Speaker 1: to utter his name again. There was a disdain in that,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't see any disdain in him. He hid

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Speaker 1: all of that. He was always smiling, he was always positive,

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Speaker 1: and I always thought this guy was a trojan horse.

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Speaker 1: If this is already starting to change, if we're going

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Speaker 1: to start seeing the reels or in Mam Donnie, and

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Speaker 1: that speech was as calculated as you and I know

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Speaker 1: Natalie believes it was, then we might be in trouble

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of years because we might not

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Speaker 1: have gotten the guy we voted for.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I hope that's not the case. But

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Speaker 2: from last night's speech, it didn't sound like there was

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Speaker 2: any moderation. I mean, some of the people that he

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Speaker 2: gave shout outs to were some of the most ardent

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Speaker 2: socialists in American history, right if you listen to his

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Speaker 2: speech very carefully. So I don't know whether or not

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Speaker 2: there's going to be any moderation. He had to show

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Speaker 2: some moderation during the campaign because those videos of what

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Speaker 2: he used to say just a couple of months ago

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Speaker 2: were awful. They were awful regarding some of the positions

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Speaker 2: he had taken on Israel, and when you think about

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Speaker 2: his idea of seizing the means of production, when you

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Speaker 2: take just a perusal of his tweets in the past,

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Speaker 2: they're pretty shocking and very extremist. So when you see that,

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Speaker 2: you had no other option but to sound like a moderate,

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Speaker 2: pragmatic democrat, which is what I think he tried to

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Speaker 2: do for the last three months. He was able to

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Speaker 2: do so successfully by winning yesterday. And let's keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: you know two thirds of Jewish New Yorkers didn't vote

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Speaker 2: for a Semimihamdani, So that does mean that you had

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Speaker 2: a third of Jewish voters who heard those things and

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Speaker 2: still said, you know what, I'm going to put my

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Speaker 2: hope in assembly Miimamdani. He may not have a long record.

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Speaker 2: He may not have any experience in managing the staff

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Speaker 2: of over five but I think he can manage the

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Speaker 2: staff of three hundred and fifty thousand people and a

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Speaker 2: budget of one hundred and twenty billion. That's what they

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Speaker 2: thought yesterday. So there's something must have connected during the

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Speaker 2: last three months with moderation that we did not see

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Speaker 2: last night. So you're right, Larry, that's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: He's a great actor. He's a tremendous actor. But I

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Speaker 1: think this was an entire act. I think you saw

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Speaker 1: the act slip a little bit in that speech last night.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're in for a pretty scary four

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Speaker 1: years because I think, where do you see who he hires?

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Speaker 1: Why do you see what he puts on his staff?

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be extremely telling. Jac always

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Speaker 1: tremendous to talk to you. That was extremely valuable. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your insight all the time.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Larry, Thank you so much. J. C.

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Speaker 1: Polanco, political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant

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Speaker 1: professor and A two Ernie. This has been a podcast

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