1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: It's Marcus in the morning. We're doing second date update 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: right now. Let's just bring our guy Elliott on Elliott. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning guys. How you doing good man? 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: So Elliott went on a date. Lady's name is Serena. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: She has ghosted. What can you tell me about the 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: date so we can help you maybe maybe barter a 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: second date. 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Trying to figure out what's going on. 9 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 3: Well, basically, I for the life and we really can't 10 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: figure out why she kind of vanished after I thought 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: we had a pretty good first date, honestly, one of 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: the better ones I've had in quite a while. 13 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Okay, what did you guys do? 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: So well, you. 15 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Know, it took up to a really cute little Parisian 16 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: spot in Redwood City, and you know, she walked into 17 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: the media, made a joke about, you know, being five 18 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: minutes late because she circled for parking like three times, 19 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: so you know, she was making jokes and we were 20 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: just having a nice time. We split the bill and 21 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: split a ton of food. Actually in general and really 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: good and the conversation really never dragged that much. She 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: was fun to talk to, had a really wry, you know, 24 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: kind of sense of humor, and she she actually kind 25 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: of caught me off guard with some of her humor. 26 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: But but I I like someone that is a little 27 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: more daring like that. 28 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, it's. 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: Funny to me when people start out sarcasming each. 30 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Other exactly, and that was and it was it was fun. 31 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I feel like I found like 32 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: a cool person, you know, in that way. The day 33 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: kept stretching on kind of longer and longer without either 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 3: of us wanting to really call it. So after dinner, 35 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: we went for a walk downtown. We we got tea. Uh, 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: we you know, we're talking about, you know, old jobs 37 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: we used to were. Uh. We talked about like the 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: weird hobbies that you know, you have that you don't 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: talk about on a first date often, you know that 40 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: that that kind of thing, and so it made me 41 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: feel closer to her, and uh, you know, she she 42 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: admitted that she's often suspicious of people who seem, you know, 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: too polished on a first date, the whole too good 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: to be true thing, and I kind of laughed it 45 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: off and I told her I definitely am not polished. 46 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: So and then she thought that was very fun. So yeah, 47 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: end of the night. We had a tight hug, a 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: little pause. We had one of those kind of moments 49 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: where if following a kiss might happen, but we decided 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: we kind of gave each other this kind of look 51 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: and said, you know what, let's let's just leave it 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: right here for now. And I text her when I 53 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: got home and I said I had a great time, 54 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: and she texted back and said she did too. So 55 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: it was the next day where it got a little weird. 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: I sent her a message and it got a little colder, 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: you know. I asked her about grabbing dinner the following week, 58 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: and no response. I followed up a couple of days later. 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Didn't want to double text immediately, and I, you know, 60 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: made a joke and tried to get that vibe going again. Nothing. 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna call Serena. 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her vibe. I would love to get 63 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: you a second date. Let's see if we can broke 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: her that. 65 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, man, I would love that. 66 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and see if we can get her 67 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: on the phone. Go ahead and meet your phone. Let's 68 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: get this thing started. 69 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Here we go. Hello, I'm looking for Serena. 70 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: Please, who's calling? 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: This is Marcus calling from Star one on one three. 72 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, Oh, good morning. 73 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: Hi. 74 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: Do you listen to the show ever? 75 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 76 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: Honestly sometimes. 77 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, are you familiar with Second Date Update? 78 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: No? 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: What is that? 80 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: We do it? Okay, we do on the radio? Is 81 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: that okay? 82 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 83 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Sorry? Hey, yeah, we do a dating segment. It's called 84 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: Second Date Update. 85 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: You go on a first date and then somebody gets ghosted, 86 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: so we call the other person to frankly figure. 87 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Out what they did wrong. 88 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: And I got a call from a guy named Elliott, 89 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: who had the best time. 90 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: With you there. Well, by the way, there is a 91 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: baby in the background. I can't concentrate. Who is that? 92 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: Oh I'm babysitting for my sister. 93 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Auntie, I like it. Do you have a 94 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: second to talk about your date with Elliott? 95 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 6: Sure? 96 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 97 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Great? Did you ghost I mean. 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 6: Yes, I actually did like Elliott. He was very charming, 99 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 6: he was we had a good time, good company, and 100 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 6: I actually thought like we were going to go on 101 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 6: a second date. 102 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: But that's well, there was one moment that I, honestly 103 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: I just could not get past, so like near when 104 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: we were close to the end, of. 105 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 6: The date, we were talking about weird hobbies and stuff. 106 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: We had a really good conversation throughout the date, but at. 107 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 6: The end we're talking about hobbies and Elliott this was 108 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 6: just weird. He like admitted that he runs these fake 109 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 6: arguments out loud in his car before dates and like 110 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: work meetings, and even he was talking about family events too. 111 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 6: I think it's just like he runs through these scenarios 113 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 6: in his head, which I think it's just normal, like overthinking, 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 6: you know, that's kind of understandable, Like he's just he's 115 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 6: an overthinker. But no, he fully explained that he assigns 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 6: voices to imaginary people and he like predicts what they'll say, 117 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 6: and he he was just talking about this and he's like, 118 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 6: I practice winning the conversation in advance, and it was 119 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 6: just a little much. He actually even told me that 120 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 6: he did one before our date, just in case things 121 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 6: got awkward, he said, and once he said that the 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 6: whole night kind of. 123 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Shit, literally practicing what he might say if things go sideways. Yeah, 124 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: I see, all right, Well, here's the other half of 125 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: this is that Elliott is actually listening right now. 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: He called me, we're trying to learn some things. 127 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: He really dug you, so, like, I don't want you 128 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: to feel ambush necessarily, Elliott, are you there? 129 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, yep, I'm here. 130 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: Hi. 131 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: So do you have conversations and arguments with yourself? Are 132 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you like practicing for real life. 133 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: Or what are you doing? 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I'm really embarrassed about this, but I do. 135 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: I do kind of rehearse real life a little bit sometimes, 136 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: and I do, you know, assigned voices and kind of 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: play it out in my head. And I'm very embarrassed 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: about that, but I will say I'm going to try 139 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: and defend myself a little bit here. It's not like 140 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: a creepy manipulation thing. It's just how I manage anxiety. 141 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: I over prepare. I like to talk things out. And 142 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: you know, plenty of people practice conversations in the mirror 143 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: or think through scenarios in their head, and my version 144 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: is just it happens to me, me talking out loud 145 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: in the car, using different voices, and I'm completely myself 146 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: on the date. I'm completely in the moment, and if anything, 147 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: I think that I was trying to be honest and vulnerable, 148 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: you know, with with Serena. 149 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: Okay, I hear you, but honesty was not like the 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: real issue there. What kind of shifted for me, I 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: was like I had this image of you basically workshop 152 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 5: testing by reactions before we had even met, and then 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: just maybe feel like, in hindsight, like the night was 154 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 5: not really as organic as I thought, and like I 155 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: had stepped into a scene that you had already kind 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: of partially written out. 157 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I get that, that's fair. I think that what's 158 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: important though, is that everybody anticipates first dates, right like 159 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: I just had the client part out loud. We've all 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: gamed out first dates in our head of what we're 161 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: going to say, how we're going to say it, you know, 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: all that kind of especially people you know, like you 163 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: and me, that have been on so many first dates 164 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: in the past. I was trying really hard to, you know, 165 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: tell the truth and be really transparent about myself because 166 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: we said, hey, let's let's let's tell each other something 167 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: that we don't often admit on a first date. And 168 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: this is something I don't often in the middle of 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: first date. 170 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: You know, Sarah, I feel like he's weirdly halfway got 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: a point. 172 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: Look, I don't think that you are a bad guy. 173 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: I actually think you're probably a really good boyfriend for 174 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: the right person. 175 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 6: I just don't think that person is me. 176 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Okay, no second date or. 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: No. 178 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: Actually, but I just thought of something. 179 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 6: My best friend Allie, she actually. 180 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: Does almost the exact same thing, and it kind of 181 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: drives me crazy, like she overthinks everything. She's like kind 182 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 5: of exactly you, Elliott, And so I don't know. 183 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: And can we set her up with Elliott? I'm down, 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm serious. 185 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: I think you two would either get married or you like, 186 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 6: start a podcast together. 187 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I've broke her dates. I don't care how 188 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: it happens. So Elliott, your thoughts and. 189 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: After this, I am open to a referral. Will I 190 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: will take it. I trust Serena's judgment. 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: Okay, I will happily make the introduction. 192 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: See, he must have done something right. He's getting a 193 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: dating referra. This is amazing. 194 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 6: I think he's a great guy, like I think, actually they. 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: Would hit it off perfect. 196 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: I love all of this, Elliott. I'm calling this half 197 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: a win because you do have to go on to 198 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: another first date. But let's take it. 199 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'm very I'm very interested in this. 200 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: Said this sounds proversation. 201 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Serena appreciate it. Thanks guys, hang on you guys. 202 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: Is that victory from the jaws of defeat. I'll take it. 203 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: What a way to wrap up the week. 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