1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: This is Tony Bike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Penn Station East Coast Subs. Handcraft 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: it hot grilled subs, fresh cut fries and lemonade. It's 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: all about good taste. Penn Station East Coast Subs orderum 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: line Today. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: All right, we're here to the third and final hour 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: of Cincy three sixty on a Tuesday. Thanks to our 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: friends at Penn Station. Thank you for listening. If you 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: follow along the week, we do have scheduled guests throughout 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: the week. We have scheduled press conferences that happen. For instance, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor speaks on Wednesdays. We carry that Scott Saderfield 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: speaks on Tuesdays, and we like to play that back 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: for you as well, especially with this Cincinnati Bearcat team 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: now coming off back to back lawsites with the bye 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: week sandwiched in between. They host BYU Saturday night. It's 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: an eight pm start, big noon kickoff is in town. 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: A very disappointing loss coming out of the Bay to Arizona. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: They no longer control their own destiny, but they are 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: still mathematically eligible to have a path to the Big 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: twelve championship that would go away with a lost Saturday 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: night against b YU. So here is what Scott Saderfield 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: had to say in his weekly press conference earlier this afternoon. 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Excited about this opportunity. B y U A great. 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: Team, Klan. He's done a phenomenal job there. Very mature team, 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: uh physical, big coached well. Defense is one of the 26 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: best defenses in the country. Offensively, you know, coming into 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 4: the season they thought, okay, well a new quarterback there 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: there may struggle a little bit, but black Mars played outstanding. 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: He's playing like he's a He's an older player, like 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: an experienced player that plays with great poise, throws the 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: ball really well and then can run the football, which 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: is you know, he's done a great job as a 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: dual threat, big running back, great great player. And then 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: number two is that Ali standing receiver. We played against 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: him two years ago, and eleven creates some big time plays, 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: has some great speed. I think they're very very good 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: in the special teams as well, So not not too 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 4: much weakness. When you think about BYU, you know a 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: team that's used to win, and I think they're twenty 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: and three in the last two years, So an outstanding 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: football team. You know, opportunity for US, our seniors, Senior 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: Day for US, so twenty two seniors. 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: Will be be coming out for the last time. 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: So I'm sure there'll be a lot of emotions out there, 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: and guys like Gavin Garhart, He's going to make his 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 4: forty seventh start, which is incredible, you know, one of 47 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: the best leaders I've ever been around, and of course 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: Corleone and some of the other guys. I mean, it's 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: it's just a special group and so exciting day for 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: them as well. 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Any questions you'd. 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 5: Mentioned after the game that Evan Pryor and Caleb Goody 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: should be back this week, any update on that and 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: are you surprised how much you missed him? 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: No, I'm not surprised we missed him. We certainly, you know, 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: two big playmakers for US that have great speed. I mean, 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: that's that's certainly something that you want to have on 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: the field. We feel good about both those guys being 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: available this week. Obviously, because the week goes on, we'll 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: know more, but feel good about those guys. Goodie for 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: sure will be ready to go. And prior I said 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: this last week he's very close last week. 63 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: I feel still feel good about him being available this week. 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 6: Running game, you had the two big explosive plays with Tawee, 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 6: but then I think he was ten for twenty six 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 6: and the rest of us carries. When you went back 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 6: and watched the film, what did Arizona. 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 7: Do to quell that? 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: And what can you do against be. 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: Well on one of the big runs had him stopped 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: on the right side, he did a good job of 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: just bouncing it, you know, and creating a big play 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: on the back side of that run. They're a good defense. 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: I mean, we knew that coming in, you know. I 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: think I think we popped some good runs in the 76 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: first quarter. I think we had one hundred and forty 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: yards after the first quarter, so you know, some big 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: runs there, you know, to get us. 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Some points on the board and score. But they're they're 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: good defense. 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: They muddy up the front, a lot of movement, a 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: lot of twists, move using their linebackers. They're good in 83 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: the secondary, so they can do a lot of different things, 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: you know. And I think there are three safeties I 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: thought played really really good football as well. 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Uh forty three's of man a good good football player. 87 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: Played a lot of ball, you know, and I think 88 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: we just, you know, we're not consistent enough in the 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: run game there late in the game, you know, particularly 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: in the in the when we had we had the 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: one touchdown lead fourteen to seven. I thought our defense 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: at that point was getting them off the field and 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: holding the field goal attempts. And that that's where me like, offensively, 94 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: you know, we we needed to attack to get to 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: get up up to scores. You get up two scores, now, okay, 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: maybe a different ball game. We never were able to 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: do that. And then in the second half, when we 98 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: were moving the ball some, we couldn't get them off 99 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 4: the field. 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: You know. 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: We we score to make it a one possession game, 102 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: three point game was six and a half minutes, you know, 103 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: and then we got the ball back think a minute 104 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: and a half, you know, And you know, so we 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: just didn't did not play complimentary football. He like, when 106 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: when one side or the other needed some help, we 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: didn't do it. And I think that was a big 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: part of that game. 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 8: Coach, you mentioned two standouts on the offensive side of 110 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 8: the ball for BYU. L. J. Martin and Chase Roberts. 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 8: What stands out about them? And what do you remember 112 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 8: from the last time you guys played. Obviously those two 113 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 8: had three touchdowns. 114 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, good, good players. 115 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: Well I remember size really I think you know number 116 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: two is a long player that can run, has really 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: good hands. I remember the player out there on our sideline, 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: you know, threats that sitting there, that look like he's 119 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: getting ready to pick the ball, and then all of a sudden, 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: two comes out of nowhere. It catches it and zig 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: zags and scores a touchdown. In the running backs, I mean, 122 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: I don't know how big two thirty two, twenty five. 123 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: He's a big back that that that has speed. I 124 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: think is he leading the big twelve and rushing maybe? 125 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: I mean he's a he's good and I think he 126 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: missed the game or two with some injuries, but he 127 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: came back. I mean, he's he's a really good player, 128 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: A very solid player, you know. I just think they're 129 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: very efficient in what they do offensively and in bachmeers 130 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: taking care of the football. 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: You know. 132 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: I think the one game they turned it over a 133 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: couple of times maybe against Texas Tech. 134 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: That was the one game they lost this year. 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: So they just very efficient offense and they're Therefore, you know, 136 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: when you play great defense, when the ficial you give 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: yourself a chance to win. 138 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: Scott. 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 9: The last two games obviously haven't gone the way you 140 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 9: guys hoped for, But is there anything you can take 141 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 9: away from them that you think, this is what we 142 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 9: need to do to take that next step towards becoming 143 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 9: a championship caliber program in this conference, which you guys 144 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 9: have been close to this season. 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just think you have to play 146 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: complete complete football game like you in all three phases. 147 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: You have to be very very solid. 148 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: I think about the teams that are that are good 149 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: in all three phases, they're usually the teams on top. 150 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: I think, you know, think about Texas Tech right now. 151 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 4: The way they're playing football BYU, the way they're playing 152 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: football all three phases are good. Even if you look 153 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: at a national scope, you know, like Indiana, who's done 154 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: an unbelievable job. Go look at there doing on offense 155 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: and defense, like they're top five in the country and both. 156 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: It's amazing to me, like how good you are at 157 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: all three phases. You know, if you have one side 158 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: of the ball that is not doing what they're supposed 159 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: to do, it is going to be hard to win. 160 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: You can still win, but it's going to be a 161 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: lot more difficult to win. So in order to be 162 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: that championship caliber team, you got to be really solid 163 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: in all three phases. Just like Saturday, I thought special 164 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: teams were solid. We were good enough to win in 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: special teams. Man, we did some good things. You know, 166 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: we gotta a little bit more consistent on other two 167 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: sides of the ball, I mean, as the bottom line 168 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: in that game. And then having said that, we still 169 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: had an opportunity, a chance to go win that game. 170 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: You just got to make a few more plays. It 171 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: just makes it a lot more difficult because the margins. 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: We talked about this all year, the margins is the 173 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: big twelve. Man, They're they're they're tight. You know, a 174 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: play hero play there could be the difference in the game. 175 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: And that's proven to proven to be true because. 176 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: Look at Black Myers and swersby stats, they're almost carbon copies, 177 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: almost the same build, you know, same type player. Can 178 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 5: Brendan bounce back after two games obviously just had difficulty 179 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: with the man coverage and all that, and you kind 180 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: of know what's coming. Is it in him to bounce back? 181 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think so. I mean I said 182 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: this after the game. 183 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we had four drops, potentially five 184 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: drops in that game. If our guys catch the football, 185 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: then his stats are gonna look a lot different, you know. 186 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I think that's the partly. 187 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: It's not just Springding. I thought I thought he had 188 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: a really bad decision on the first play of the game, 189 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: like that was awful, But. 190 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: Really after that, it really played pretty good. I mean 191 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: he threw the ball good. 192 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you know that post ball which has been 193 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: forty five fifty yards added to his stats. 194 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to catch that ball, you know. 195 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: And I think you know, and our receivers will be 196 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: the first to tell you, yeah, I got to catch that, 197 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: you know. And I think, so it just not just 198 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: on one player. I mean, I think it's the whole team. 199 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: You got to protect good, you got to run the 200 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: good routes, you got to make the catches and you know, 201 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: so yeah, absolutely. 202 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: Can bounce back, you know. 203 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: I think I think that's what we're practicing forwards, driving 204 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: forward to go out and play well and to be 205 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: clicking on all cylinders. 206 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: How much man are you expecting to see against by U. 207 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: There'll be they'll be some man. I mean that's what 208 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: they do. 209 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: You know, play man, play three, they mix it up. 210 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: You known, play a lot of different things, you know. 211 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, they're really good on defense. 212 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: I think they've created a lot of turnovers because of that. 213 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: I think their corners are good where they're supposed to be. 214 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: Their linebackers make plays. I mean a lot of people 215 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: talk about their linebackers. I mean their long can run, 216 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: their physical Yeah, I mean, they're they're they're a solid team. 217 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: So we'll we'll we'll see a little bit of everything, 218 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: but they're gonna do what they do. 219 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: Does a part of you after the struggles with Man, 220 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 6: do you want to not really tear it down but 221 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 6: be more experimental to try something different, or do you 222 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 6: stick to what's gotten you to seven three? 223 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 9: No? 224 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: I mean I think we gotta we gotta obviously try 225 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: to do things that will get us, get us in 226 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: a position to make plays. 227 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: So whatever that takes. 228 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing that we can sit here 229 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: as coaches and we can draw up all kinds of stuff, 230 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: you know, and then our guys. 231 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Have to go execute, you know. I mean, so it 232 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: takes both of that. 233 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: You know, we have to put our guy position and 234 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: players in position to make then they. 235 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: Have to go and make the plays. 236 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you have to get the protection, you got 237 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: to make the throw, you got to make the catch, 238 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: you know. And it's difficult playing against good defenses. If 239 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: you guys look up defensive pass efficiency in our league, 240 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: Arizona or are they ranked top five Utah or are 241 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: they ranked six? I think you Arizona's three in the country, 242 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: their number six in the country. 243 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: There's one hundred and thirty six team. They're pretty good 244 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: on defense. This team is too. 245 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: I think this team's ranked thirteenth and pass official defense. 246 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 4: So you know, we're playing a lot of good teams. 247 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: With that. When you're playing those teams, there is less 248 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: room for era. 249 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: You have to be on point, like you have to 250 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: run Chris Brouts, you have to throw the ball on time, 251 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: you got to be able to make contested catches. So 252 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: all those things come into play, and you know, if 253 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: you're not, it's gonna be one of those days you're 254 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: gonna look up and look at the stats and it's 255 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: not very good, you know, And so so you got 256 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: to be on point. 257 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: We got to continue to work to get better. 258 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: Coach. 259 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 8: You've obviously been around a lot of veteran leaders about 260 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 8: your coaching career. Is it gonna be a little emotional 261 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 8: on Saturday night seeing Gavin and Dante take the field 262 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 8: for the last time after pouring their heart and soul 263 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 8: into this program last year. 264 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: It's this, it's the finale for those guys in knipper 265 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Man and and and for those guys in particular, I 266 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: think about Gavin, who's committed as a sophomore here in 267 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: high school. 268 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: That's a long time man he's been. You know, he's 269 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: been in his. 270 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: Blood, sweat and tears for the Bearcats and know and 271 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: for him to go out and I think it's just 272 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 4: that's the last time he knows he's gonna be running 273 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: out in the stadium there. This will be very emotion 274 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: for those guys, but also for US coaches because of what, 275 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: you know, particularly those guys have. 276 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: Done for this program. 277 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: They've seen a lot of change and coaches. 278 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: New conference and all that. 279 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: But man, they're great human beings and you know they 280 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: obviously have bright futures ahead for them. 281 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: All right. 282 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: That is a part of Scott's Saderfield from earlier today 283 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: Again I think it's cool for for a lot of 284 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: seniors on this team to get to go out with 285 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: a nip at night. From experience, there's nothing better than 286 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: a night game at Nippert Stadium. But the idea of 287 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: complimentary football. That's when this team was winning, and they 288 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: won seven games in a row, they were playing complimentary football. 289 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: And in each of these losses the last couple of games, 290 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: it's been little chinks in the armor, turnovers on offense inefficiency. 291 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: When you have a fourteen to seven leading, you get 292 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: the ball back four straight times, you got to go 293 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: put points on the board. You've got to expand that lead. 294 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: Defense has not gotten the stops. Special teams has not 295 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: been as strong. It's complimentary football and that's what the 296 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: best teams are doing. And I certainly agree to that. 297 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: But Scott Satifield alluded to it. Utah great defensive ranking, 298 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: Arizona great defensive ranking, BYU great defensive ranking. Guess what, 299 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: You've eventually got to win that game. You've got to 300 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: beat that team, and that has eluded this team for 301 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: the most part in the Scotts Saddlefield era. That has 302 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: to change. On Saturday night, you can't go to three 303 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: straight losses and then he can't open the door to 304 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: end the season with another four game losing streak before 305 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: a bowl game. It's just it is a very important 306 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: game Saturday night at Nippert Stadium. If you are holding 307 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: on and you're clinging to the hope that there is 308 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: still a path for the Cincinnati Bearcats, there are two 309 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: there are four two lost teams in the Big Twelve. 310 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: Utah already has the heads up against the Cincinnati Bearcats. 311 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: You would you would take the heads up against BYU, 312 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: so you wouldn't have to worry about them. But you 313 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: got a factor in Houston who still has to play 314 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: TCU and then Baylor. Not an easy stretch for Houston, 315 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: so that's possible. You would have to factor in Arizona State. 316 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Arizona State going forward has a game against Colorado and 317 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: then they finish up their season against Arizona. That's a 318 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: possibility because we just watched that Arizona team play against 319 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats. The problem I think is going to 320 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: be Utah. Utah host Kansas State on Saturday, and then 321 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: they travel to Kansas on the day after Thanksgiving. So 322 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: there is still a slight path, albeit not ideal. Because 323 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: of the situation the Bearcats have put themselves in by 324 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: not getting that win against Arizona and continuing that idea 325 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: of win out and you control your own destiny. You 326 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: now got to count on the help of others. We 327 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: got plenty more to get to today, including your phone calls. 328 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll open 329 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: the phone lines back up. We've got UCBYU. We've got 330 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: Bengals Patriots. We've got FC Cincinnati and Inner Miami. You've 331 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: got college basketball tonight, Xavier in action, Kentucky in action, 332 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: you see in Louisville on Friday night, high school action. 333 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Whatever you want to talk about, give us a call. 334 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 10: We'll do so. 335 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: Next five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty on 336 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 337 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Station, Every sport, every story, every angle. Loegger Today at 338 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 339 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 10: Another summer is ended, and you may have he's done. 340 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 10: FC Cincinnati's chased for the Cup. Yes, then, fifteen thirty, 341 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 10: Cincinnati's Sports Station. 342 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: Shout out to the weather today. It is a little 343 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: bit purple ring going on today. Come on, maybe a 344 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: purple Friday at pay Corps. Oh, what do we think 345 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: about that? I don't want to take sides. All right, 346 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: we'll do that Friday with me. Make picks. Well, I'm 347 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: not here Friday. I can tell you who I'm gonna pick. 348 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: Who give me Saint X? 349 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: Wow? 350 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: Wow? 351 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 10: There isn't an elder person who just said something really 352 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 10: offensive to me in a private text message. Okay, so 353 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 10: because of that, I'm out. Deal on elder, I get it. 354 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 10: Give me Rocky Boyman, Luke Keikley, who's it? Max Claire? 355 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: Wow? 356 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 10: In the sant X Bomber Chase Wolf, Chase Wolf, Yes, right, 357 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 10: we love the Wolf family. 358 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: Man. 359 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: Might just let this play for a while. 360 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. I used to be the public 361 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 10: address announcer for Sidney Yellow Jacket Baseball, and we'd get 362 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 10: these yellow jackets, we'd get these rain delays. That's where 363 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 10: we'd go with and I just blast this. I'll tell 364 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 10: you the parents loved it. A little purple rain, Just 365 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 10: a little purple rain on a day like today. Come 366 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 10: well done, sing it to us friends, well done? 367 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 11: Wow? 368 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: Wow? 369 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's do this for a second. By the way, 370 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: thanks to Penn Station here and now number three. 371 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 10: You think Prince ever had Penn Station. 372 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, one decent did did. 373 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 10: That's one of the craziest days on this show. I 374 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 10: thought you were lying through your teeth. Nope, let me 375 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 10: get this. 376 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I'm minding my business this morning, and I'm talking. 377 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking at stuff with the Bengals and talk about 378 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, and we've talked about Jamar Chase and what's 379 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: going on around this team and certainly a big week 380 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. What I didn't have on my 381 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: card today was talking at all about the Reds or 382 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: Hunter Green. And then I came across the story by 383 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: Greg Kufner on Cincinnati Reds for SI, and it essentially 384 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: outlines how there are members of the Reds organization who 385 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: may be unhappy with Hunter Green. Now, we've seen a 386 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: lot of these trade rumors that have come up, and 387 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: you kind of just quickly shoot it down because it's like, 388 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: why would you trade Hunter Green. He's got one of 389 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: the most team friendly deals at all of baseball, and 390 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: he's a great starting pitcher. And then the more you 391 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: kind of read reading between the lines, you know he 392 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: had the groin injury he was rehabbing he reported symptoms 393 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: and canceled his own rehab assignment, but the MRI, according 394 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: to the and Terry Francona, came back clean. So it 395 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: kind of just got pushed on. Well, it's gonna be 396 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: when Hunter's comfortable. It's gonna bree when Hunter's ready to go. 397 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: I just feel like any time you read as much 398 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: about a player as we've heard or read about Hunter Green, 399 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: maybe there's more there. Maybe there's more there into teammate leader, clubhouse, 400 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: maybe there's more into how he was coming back from injury. 401 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't know because we're not there, But does this 402 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: feel something to you, Austin that is is something that's 403 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: just kind of thrown at the wall, or do you 404 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: think that there's got some staying power here with an 405 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: article like this. 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 10: I get this sense that the Hunter Green trade rumors 407 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 10: basically came from this story and the idea that there 408 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 10: was some sort of conflict between Hunter Green and the 409 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 10: Reds where instead of coming back, maybe at the timeline 410 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 10: the red expected him to come back, Hunter Green went 411 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 10: and got his own second opinion, third opinion. And I 412 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 10: think the word that Charlie Goldsmith used when he was 413 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 10: on our air over the summer. Was it's Hunter's timeline, 414 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 10: which would to me signal the idea of a disagreement 415 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 10: between the Reds and their medical staff and Hunter Green. 416 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 10: I would assume there might be a layer of distrust 417 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 10: there based off some of the injuries we've seen in 418 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 10: the past, and we've spent a lot of time on 419 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 10: this show making fun of and questioning the timelines and 420 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 10: medical staff that the Reds have. We're not doctors, we 421 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 10: don't pretend to be, but there have been multiple times 422 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 10: where players or managers or others have kind of put 423 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 10: their foot in their mouth based off of this staff. 424 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 10: And so I think Hunter was especially cautious with his 425 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 10: injury to the point where it was probably frustrating for 426 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 10: Reds fans, for other players on the team, for the 427 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 10: coaching staff. I'm sure all of it, and I would 428 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 10: assume that that's where the idea of a disconnect could 429 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 10: lead to a trade. That's how I read this story. Yeah, 430 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 10: and again this is us speculating. This is obviously nothing 431 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 10: we know. But I even think if you go down 432 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 10: on this article, Nick Krawl essentially addressed the rumors and said, look, 433 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 10: we're trying to do it's best for our team. I 434 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 10: don't want to rule anything out, but that's a hard 435 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 10: one to actually say, hey, we're going to trade the 436 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 10: guy that has a chance to be the ace of 437 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 10: your staff on top of the rotation guy going to 438 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 10: the postseason. But even that, it's not as reassuring as 439 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 10: shooting something down and saying no, we're not going to 440 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 10: move him. Well, I think that's Nick Krawl's way of 441 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 10: shooting it down. I don't think it was ever a 442 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 10: true consideration that the Reds would trade Hunter Green. I 443 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 10: think it was just, hey, this thing happened, and I 444 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 10: wonder if that would be enough for them to consider it. 445 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 10: I don't think the Reds ever really have considered it. Yeah, 446 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 10: doesn't feel like they have no and they shouldn't. There's 447 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 10: no reason to. We've talked about it a lot. He's 448 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 10: the eighty third or whatever it is, highest paid picture. 449 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: You want to have a chance to win, it's with 450 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: Hunter Green. 451 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 10: If the guy is making thirty million dollars and he 452 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 10: can't start and he's having these injuries, then that's a 453 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 10: different story. Maybe you do trade him, but he's not 454 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 10: and he's under control for a long time, and we 455 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 10: have seen when he's healthy he's as good as anybody 456 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 10: in baseball, and that includes guys like Paul Skeins, because 457 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 10: there was a stretch this summer where those two were nasty. Yeah, 458 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 10: just flat out and so too. Yeah exactly. So I 459 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 10: think that's like the the bread crumbs of like what 460 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 10: might have happened to like even consider this being a thing. 461 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 10: But I doubt that the Reds, at least Nick Krawl, 462 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 10: never really considered something like this. 463 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, still something to watch for. 464 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 10: But if that's the case, though that like there was 465 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 10: some sort of disagreement between what Hunter felt was best 466 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 10: for him and the Reds organization, I would give them 467 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 10: credit for allowing Hunter to go and do his own thing, 468 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 10: but also I would be working hard on that relationship 469 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 10: this offseason to fix it so that we don't face 470 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 10: this type of issue again, because that's not good for anybody. 471 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: No, let's uh, let's take a call before we get 472 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: to a break here. Tim is calling in. Hello, Tim, Hey, 473 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: how you guys doings? 474 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: Hey? 475 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 12: I want to ask you, Tynan, how's the help of Soresby? 476 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 12: Because he was hurt the night game? 477 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Austin you heard him earlier. I believe he 478 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: said that the ankle was is okay? 479 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, our guy Keegan Nicholson. Yeah, he was asked earlier. 480 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 10: He says, is his ankle is good even though he 481 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 10: got rolled up on against Arizona. 482 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it inhibited from running late in that 483 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: game against Arizona. He did get rolled up on, but 484 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: as we learned today, he is healthy. Yeah, ahead of 485 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: b YU. 486 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 12: All right, thanks a real quick. Hey listen, I'm an 487 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 12: I understand you want to tax is fine? 488 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 10: Okay. 489 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 12: I put a little side bet on a fun side bet. 490 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 10: What do you got? 491 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 12: I don't know, like uh uh hot some like like 492 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 12: they'll kind of him. 493 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 10: I'll think about it, Tim, I'll get back to Okay, 494 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 10: all right, thank you, Tim. Okay, we'll think about it. 495 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: That's some hot fun Sunday bets. 496 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 10: I've I've picked against elder once ever and they won. Yeah, 497 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 10: so if I pick against him again, So you're trying 498 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 10: to help him. Perhaps I don't know you now unless 499 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 10: the person who you know said this awful thing to 500 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 10: me you're asking for, unless he apologizes, that could be 501 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 10: how you know and comes to an end based on 502 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 10: a text that you received. Already got a text. I 503 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 10: see how it is. You'll be sorry, Okay, you have 504 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 10: an opportunity to fix this. They don't want to fix it. 505 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 10: Now they're see what app They're doubling down. I don't 506 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 10: want to do this to the great folks at Elder 507 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 10: Love the people at Elder Well, thank you already gone, 508 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 10: Runk and others. 509 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: You already have my guy. We'll take a break more 510 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: to go next to ESPN. I wish to this Gate 511 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. 512 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 11: Catch the Louisville versus Cincinnati men's basketball game Friday night, 513 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 11: November twenty first, in downtown Cincinnati at the Heritage Bank Center. 514 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 11: Get tickets through Ticketmaster. It's the Cardinals and Bearcats Friday, 515 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 11: November twenty first, at six thirty at the Heritage Bank Center. 516 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 11: Tickets are available at ticketmaster dot com. 517 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 13: Hi. 518 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 14: I'm Connie Britton, and I want to share with you 519 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 14: the experience of Donna in Washington. She writes, I got 520 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 14: injured about five years ago. I was let go when 521 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 14: because of the injury, I couldn't keep up with my schedule. 522 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 14: I've tried to find other work, but I'm sixty eight now. 523 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 14: No one wants to hire someone that old. This week 524 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 14: is tough, though, because I had to get my tooth fixed. 525 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 14: So I only have ten dollars in my checking account, 526 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 14: but it will be okay. I at least have food 527 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 14: because of this pantry. Millions of people face hunger, some 528 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 14: every day, just like Donna. The Feeding America network of 529 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 14: food banks helps provide over six billion meals to people 530 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 14: in need each year. 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Who new history class could get 546 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 7: this violent? Speaking of the patriots, I wonder how I 547 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: would look in a powdered wig. Probably not good coverage 548 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 7: begins at nine am Sunday, stream for free on the 549 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 7: new and improved iHeart Radio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, 550 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 551 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 10: I got to bring something up, Tony. Okay, and I 552 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 10: swear on everything, Okay, I am not trying to rage bait. 553 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: Now, listen, I promise you I'm not. When you say 554 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: something like that, yes, you are essentially saying I'm going 555 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: to rage bait. 556 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 10: No, I'm saying this could be taken as rage bait, 557 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 10: but it's not because I don't want to get people 558 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 10: riled up. I swear to God, I'm not trying to 559 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 10: do that. So I was at the UC game on Saturday, 560 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 10: and I had a great time. A lot has changed 561 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 10: in the nine years since I had been there. Sure, 562 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 10: and people were lovely, people were wonderful. But I was 563 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 10: shocked that I saw at least five people because I 564 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 10: kept count at least five people wearing Ohio State football 565 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 10: gear inside Nippert Stadium for that big twelve clash between 566 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 10: the Bearcats and the Wildcats. I'm shocked by that number 567 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 10: one just because I know UC fans do not like 568 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 10: Ohio State. Sure and I'm just kind of looking for 569 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 10: an explanation, or is there is there something I might 570 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 10: have missed here? Well, because I could not believe what 571 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 10: I was seeing. And then I think at one point 572 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 10: there was a gentleman that saw me and was shocked 573 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 10: to see me. Now, I wasn't wearing Ohio state gear. 574 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 10: I tried to be as respectful as I could. I 575 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 10: had a red hat that said Cincinnati on it. It's 576 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 10: a it's a Red's hat, but it's just a Cincinnati 577 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 10: across the front. I was all black. I was trying 578 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 10: to look like I was on a coach sideline. But shocker. 579 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 10: I I couldn't believe what I had seen. 580 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: Now, Nippert Stadium holds around forty thousand. 581 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 10: Huh. 582 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: Anytime you get a big gathering together, you're gonna have 583 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: some eggs, some bad eggs in the building. 584 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 10: Interesting. 585 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: I would also imagine that with UC Arizona being a 586 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: noon game, that there were probably people in attendance that 587 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: probably double dipped. 588 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 10: Oh that's a good point. 589 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: That that watched the game and then made the drive 590 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: up to Columbus to watch the night game. In the show, Okay, 591 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: and maybe they were just already ready for that Okay, 592 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: makes sense. 593 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 10: I just I like baiting to me. No, I swear 594 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 10: because I I debated even bringing it up, but then 595 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 10: I saw we got a call here from Yeah, what's 596 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 10: Matt want to talk about? 597 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: Balling? Ain't easy? 598 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 10: What aut balling? 599 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: Hey? 600 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 10: How's it going? Guys? Thanks for taking my call. Sure, 601 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 10: thanks for calling that. 602 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: Well. 603 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 13: Yeah, Austin, I really appreciate you. I'm really calling to 604 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 13: talk to Austin. This is this is going to be 605 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 13: a Buckeye centered talk if that's okay with you, guys, Yeah, 606 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 13: I appreciate it. 607 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 608 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 13: So basically what you're seeing is all these Ohio State fans. 609 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 13: Ohio State, we're going to carry the torch for the 610 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 13: state of Ohio. I've been talking with my UC fans 611 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 13: and they seem to really. 612 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 10: Be okay with the idea. I texted them. 613 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 13: I said, guys, I know things are kind of falling 614 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 13: apart in Clifton, easy. 615 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 10: That's okay, I get it. 616 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 13: But we can carry the torch for you in Columbus. 617 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: We're going all the way. Austin. 618 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 13: I want to hear from you. How do you feel confidence? 619 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 13: Why this year for our chance to repeat? Do you 620 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 13: have a confidence level? 621 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 10: Uh? My confidence is an eight out of ten. And 622 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 10: the big thing that I'm most worried about is if 623 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 10: the Jeremiah Smith injury turns out to be worse than 624 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 10: we thought. And also Indiana scares the hell out of me. 625 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 13: Okay, so was he limping before the game against Yeah? 626 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: So. 627 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 10: According to Ohio State's radio broadcast, he had quad tightness 628 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 10: that he had been dealing with the day of the game. 629 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 10: Quadrat He played like the first quarter and a half 630 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 10: they got up and then he didn't really play much 631 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 10: after that. 632 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 13: Quad and Tony, this is the Power five conversation. 633 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: This is being at. 634 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 13: Not when you played, not when. 635 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 10: You play big. 636 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: Listen. 637 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 13: Surviving this schedule on a week to week baseball, this 638 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 13: is this is tough football. 639 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 10: We're talking about big ten. 640 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: Baby Rutgers is gonna put up a big fight. Greg 641 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: Ciano and his wood chopping. 642 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 10: No chance we could beat him with. 643 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 13: We could beat him with with me and Austin at 644 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 13: wide receiver. 645 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 10: This week, what's your best route? They're bawling, Probably a 646 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 10: five pattern. 647 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: Maybe start picking up seven on seven championships instead of 648 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: three on three. 649 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 13: I listen, hey, I played very well. I played exceptionally 650 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 13: well this year. 651 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 10: I just I gotta I gotta build around myself. You 652 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 10: know that, you do. 653 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, all right. 654 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 10: It's that okay, thank you, thank you guys. You know 655 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 10: does didn't our guy Rocky boyman and he's like starting 656 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 10: to seven on seven leagues? I don't know, By the way, 657 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 10: who's to say? I mean, could we maybe build the team? 658 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 10: Could you throw? 659 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 660 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 10: Do you think legit? You could? You know, if you 661 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 10: get a band of no, no, a band of misfits 662 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 10: like me and balling ain't easy, and a guy like 663 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 10: James or or Tearing Bland, he think we could win 664 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 10: some seven on seven Yes, with you at quarterback. 665 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: And James would be my center. He'd be my least 666 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: confident guy to throw a ball to. By the way, 667 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: just to put a bow on this, five people out 668 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: of forty thousand is point zero one two five percent. 669 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: I know, I'm just putting that out there. No, I know, 670 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: like that's point zero one two five. Honest to god, 671 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I really was. Well, you probably to 672 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 2: fifteen jerseys in Columbus too. You see jerseys. You see 673 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: maybe people were asked to wear black and that was 674 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: the only black shirt they had. 675 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 10: Well, the one guy was not wearing black. 676 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: He was. 677 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 10: He was trying to stand out right. There was a 678 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 10: decent amount of Arizona fans there too. There was they 679 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 10: travel well, which that's historically they always do. I think 680 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 10: if I was a fan of another Big twelve team 681 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 10: like Nippert would be on my bucket. 682 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: Cinnati would be a school I would like to come. Absolutely. 683 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you place a lot of people would like 684 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: to go to, Oakley Greens. Mullager's posted up there right now. 685 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: We'll go to him next. Posted on ESPN fifteen thirty 686 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. 687 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 10: Hey, it's Maleaggar. Join me this afternoon. 688 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 11: I'm doing the show from Oakley Greens in Oakley today, 689 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 11: starting at three oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 690 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 11: Sports Station. From the X Time Cooling Weather Center, here's 691 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 11: your forecast. 692 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by indeed dot Com. 693 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 10: When you're trying to find quality candidate, it's time for. 694 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 7: Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteenth. 695 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: They're looking for mo. 696 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: We found Moy's at Oakley Greens. The weather outside may 697 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: be frightful, but Oakley Greens inside, I'm sure is delightful. 698 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: Moe's there right now, Mo, what's happening. 699 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 11: Well, we're getting ready for a show. This is going 700 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 11: to be a short show. We're done at five o'clock today. Wow, 701 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 11: the UK basketball pregame show is going to bump us 702 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 11: out of the way in our early Kentucky and Michigan 703 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 11: State in the Champions Classic at the home of the Knicks, 704 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 11: Madison Square Garden. But we're doing something special today here 705 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 11: at Oakley Greens. You know, it's it's the week before Thanksgiving. 706 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 11: Folks are getting into that festive mood. And so if 707 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 11: you come to Oakley Greens and if you are overserved, 708 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 11: our producer today, Drew wester Heidi, has offered to drive 709 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 11: people home. And what he has told me is tell 710 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 11: folks don't call an uber, instead call a Druber. 711 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: If I stopped by to say hello today, will Drew 712 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: park my car? 713 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're doing that. 714 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, knee, I've got this thing going on with 715 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: my knee. 716 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 11: So five dollars. Valet plus A said, can I can 717 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 11: I chime in on your hundred green conversation please that 718 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 11: you guys were having. I think there is this belief 719 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 11: that is I think I think it's a misnomer that 720 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 11: the Reds have like this overabundance of starting pitching, which 721 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 11: allows them to just trade away all of their established pitchers. 722 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 11: At the end of the year, they were kind of 723 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 11: like running out of guys they had to go trade 724 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 11: for Zach Lettel. I think there's this belief that, like 725 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 11: they have so many pictures that they could just give 726 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 11: away Nickolodola or give away Hunter Green or like I know, 727 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 11: nobody wants to give those guys away. Number One, all 728 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 11: I hear is you can never have enough starting pitching. Okay, 729 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 11: well good, then don't just trade away dudes. Number two, 730 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 11: I'm not sure they have enough established starting pitchers for 731 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 11: them to be cavalier about moving on from guys who 732 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 11: are proven, whether that's Hunter Green or Andrew Abbott or 733 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 11: Nickoladolo or anybody else. 734 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: What are you gout coming up on the show today? 735 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: Outside of some Green might just. 736 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 10: Talk about that for a few hours. 737 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 11: I like this. Paul Danner Junior is gonna be here. 738 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 11: He has written in this sea of like bad takes 739 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 11: about Jamar Chase. Count on Paul Danner Junior to write 740 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 11: the definitive, like mature, sensible, piece for the Athletic dot Com. 741 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 11: Paul and I are gonna talk a little bit about Jamar, 742 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 11: and then we're gonna talk about the team itself, Bengals 743 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 11: getting ready to play the Patriots, a million different issues, 744 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 11: Sean Saytz that's or in the four o'clock hour, Taylor 745 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 11: twelve Man's gonna call in at four forty five to 746 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 11: look ahead to the Big tilt on Sunday. We're gonna 747 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 11: spend some time on UC football, not so much Ohio 748 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 11: State fans being at the game, but I I this 749 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 11: program right now, right now is at a cross roads. 750 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 11: The Scott Saderfield era is at a cross roads. This 751 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 11: can now go one of two ways. They're not gonna 752 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 11: win a Big twelve title, They're not gonna play in 753 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 11: a Big twelve title game, but they have a chance 754 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 11: to make people feel good about a nine to three 755 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 11: season or make people feel like the program's identity is 756 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 11: they melt down at the end of the season. So 757 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 11: we're gonna spend some time on that as well. And 758 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 11: then I will do I will do one segment on 759 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 11: my own on Jamar Chase. 760 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Are you gonna do anything about UC Louisville Friday Night 761 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: or any guest or anything. 762 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 11: Tomorrow on the show. Oh Wes Miller, Wow, the coach 763 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 11: of the Bearcats and John Cunningham. Unbelievable Bearcats will be 764 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 11: he is supposed to be on my show tomorrow. Unbelievable 765 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 11: Because what I am gonna do Wes Miller is having 766 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 11: a press conference at eleven o'clock. I am gonna go 767 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 11: to this press conference and I am gonna pull him 768 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 11: aside and say, Coach, we need to talk about this 769 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 11: UC versus Louisville game, and I need you to talk 770 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 11: with me about it. And so Wes and I are 771 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 11: gonna do that tomorrow and then hopefully because I don't 772 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 11: want there to be like more Louisville fans than Cincinnati fans. 773 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 11: You can't have that, No, So I don't tell people 774 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 11: what to do with their free time and money. 775 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 10: This is one of my This is one of my 776 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 10: core beliefs. 777 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 11: I don't tell people what to do with their time 778 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 11: and money unless I'm being paid to, but don't. I 779 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 11: don't want to hear see a r I we need 780 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 11: more Bearcat fans and Louisville fans. And so what I 781 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 11: am anticipating is once I have Wes tomorrow, fans are 782 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 11: gonna go. You know what, I'm gonna go see his 783 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 11: team upset the Louisville Cardinals Downtown. 784 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: Makes sense, makes perfect sense, Jamar Chase, do you do 785 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: you appreciate the appeal in saying that if I really 786 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: wanted to spit, I would have been able to spit 787 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: on his face? 788 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: Is that? 789 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that appeal carries anyway? 790 00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: No? 791 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the I think the broader appeal is 792 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 11: there's never been a case like this where a player 793 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 11: has been suspended definitively for a game. Jalen Carter didn't. 794 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 11: He was ejected, but he technically wasn't suspended, so they 795 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 11: said time served. He's gonna get a one game suspension. 796 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 11: What I want to know is who takes his place. 797 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 11: It's gonna be Jermaine Burton. It's gonna be Jermaine Burton 798 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 11: diving into that playbook, going you know what, I can 799 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 11: be count I'm gonna show up on time, I'm gonna 800 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 11: be there, I'm gonna know which routes to run. I'm 801 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 11: gonna stay awake in the meetings, and Joe Flacco or 802 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 11: Jake Browning or whoever's playing quarterback for the Bengals on Sunday, 803 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 11: can rely on me? Or should they try Geno's don't 804 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 11: it wide receiver because he can't play safe? I don't know, 805 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 11: but no, the the idea of well, you know, if 806 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 11: I really meant to spin on him, I would have 807 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 11: spit in his face. Jamar, Come on, man, I love you, 808 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 11: but dude, just you spent, you got caught, Take your punishment, 809 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 11: pay your fine, move on up. 810 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 10: A poll question that asked if Trey Hendrickson would play 811 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 10: again this season, eighty three percent said no. Where do 812 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 10: you stand on Trey Hendrickson in his future with the Bengals? 813 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: Huh. 814 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 10: It's one of the things I'm gonna ask Paul about. 815 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: And it's weird because that, like, like what we talked 816 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: about this yesterday, Like Zach Taylor is never one to 817 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: like openly rule someone out on a Monday press conference. 818 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: And for the last two weeks it's been well, he's doubtful. 819 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: It's just been odd. 820 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 11: He's doubtful, but he's weak to week, but he might 821 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 11: have surgery. He's a captain, but he's not going to Pittsburgh. 822 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 11: He's writing the kids book now, which is admirable. Like 823 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 11: there's there's just a lot of weirdness. I'm gonna guess 824 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 11: the answer is no. But there's still seven games to go. 825 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 11: It feels like it feels like, you know, they got 826 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 11: to play two more games and then this hell escape 827 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 11: of a season could be over. There's seven more games 828 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 11: to go. At some point, I think he's gonna want 829 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 11: to prove that he's healthy because he's about to hit 830 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 11: free agency. 831 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 832 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 11: And so does he view it as I undermine my 833 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 11: asking price if I finished the season not healthy. Also, 834 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 11: he might need surgery at the end of the year. 835 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 11: And so if he's told you need surgery, doesn't I 836 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 11: don't know, man, that the Trey Hendrickson experience can be 837 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 11: described a lot of different ways. Right now, I would 838 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 11: go with weird. I'll guess he doesn't play because the 839 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 11: season is going nowhere. But man, with Trey, like, nothing 840 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 11: would surprise you. Like it wouldn't surprise you if he 841 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 11: doesn't play and he's rolled out but he still puts 842 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 11: the uniform on and stands on the sideline. It wouldn't 843 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 11: surprise you if, like, he doesn't play, but he sits 844 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 11: in the stands and he wears like Tennessee Titans gear. Like, 845 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 11: I mean, literally, no, it wouldn't surprise me if he's like, yeah, 846 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 11: I'm gonna play and then he shows up and doesn't 847 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 11: have his helmet on, Like no, No, outcome with Trey 848 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 11: Hendrickson would be surprising. So I don't want this to 849 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 11: end by the way I went in the franchise tag 850 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 11: him because I'm not. I still have topics, I still 851 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 11: have things I want to say about Trey Hendrickson. I 852 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 11: don't I can't end this, okay. You know, it's kind 853 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 11: of like a like a weird relationship that you're in. 854 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 11: Were you no, deep down inside, it's probably time to 855 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 11: move on, But then there's things about it, and you're like, 856 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 11: I just can't quit them. You know, those crazy operas 857 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 11: aren't kind of entertaining. That's kind of how I feel 858 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 11: about it today. 859 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: This is it Finally mo his twelfth place MVP season 860 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, where he hit twenty one home runs 861 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: and batt two eighty five the loan year in Cincinnati. 862 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: Is that enough to make Shin Sue Chew a Hall 863 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: of Famer? 864 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 14: No? 865 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: Is he on your ballot? 866 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 14: No? 867 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 11: Are you voting him in to be in the Hall 868 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 11: of Fame? Yes, I haven't really looked at the new class. 869 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 11: Is there anybody who's like a slam dunk first ballot 870 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 11: Hall of Famer on it in ancient suit chew. 871 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: No, Austin, did you think of anybody. 872 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 11: Carlos Beltround to me, agreed col Hamils and is un 873 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 11: I'd have to look at the numbers. Yeah, Cole Hamil's 874 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 11: pitch one of the best postseason games of all time 875 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 11: Ryan Brown in Game three. 876 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 3: No, and not. 877 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 11: Because of the steroids. Just a body of work is 878 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 11: not Hall of Fame worthy. I think Carlos Beltrans is, 879 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 11: and I think he's it's unfairly used against him. The 880 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 11: whole sign stealing thing in in Houston Shin suit Choo though, 881 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 11: was fascinating that one year here. Man. He was awesome, 882 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 11: And what I remember was when they didn't bring him back, 883 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 11: It's like, what do you got for shin suit Chu? 884 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 11: What are you gonna do to replace him? Like we've 885 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 11: got Billy Hamilton? Yeah, okay, but he can't hit, can 886 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 11: he Well he's really fast, Yeah, but he can't hit. No, 887 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 11: but he's really fast, Yeah, I know, but he can't 888 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 11: hit Canny. He's really I nobody like, he's not a 889 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 11: good offensive player, like he's never hit, So you're gonna 890 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 11: replace like the best leadoff hitter in the sport with 891 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 11: the guy who can't hit. Yeah, because he's really fast 892 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 11: and it just went round and around for years. 893 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's. 894 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 14: Still going on. 895 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: What about another former red Matt Camp. 896 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 11: He's in the Hall of Fame as I'm concerned for 897 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 11: dating Rihanna. 898 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's that's it. We're Donerew, have a great show. 899 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 2: Tell Drew I'll be there soon. 900 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 11: Drewper, he's the Drewper Drew takes. Do you take Venmo 901 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 11: for parking cars? Venmo's cash? 902 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 903 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 11: Perfect, Okay, five dollars plus a tip to Valet. 904 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 10: Can't wait to turn his microphone on. 905 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 11: He's trying to be a great show. He can't wait. 906 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: Moe's next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 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