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Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian. So I want to get back to

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Speaker 1: You brought this up before, Tom. Is this the world

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Speaker 1: By forty one fifty one KARSITI Talk station, trying to

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Speaker 1: make it a happy Monday. Well, it seems to be

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Speaker 1: coming unglued. I recognize that, but there's always something positive

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Speaker 1: confirmed what my position was. The gun was not visible

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Speaker 1: head of the Trump administration spin on it. Stephen Miller

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Speaker 1: came out and called this Alex, the late Alex pretty guy,

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Speaker 1: Trump administration credibility? It was a nurse with no criminal record,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't find that out until later. Best of

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Speaker 1: And here's a puzzler for me. Another one, going back

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Speaker 1: suggesting that because he was carrying a gun, he, in

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Speaker 1: on individuals and to kill law enforcement. Really, I may

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Speaker 1: disagree all day long with what this guy was trying

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Speaker 1: from this thinking that he arrived there to start opening

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Speaker 1: fire on law enforcement. Nothing to justify that statement at all,

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Speaker 1: which really, I mean, when you're struggling to maintain some credibility,

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Speaker 1: It's what put Donald Trump in the White House. Now

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Speaker 1: it's in jeopardy of completely fallen off the map and

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Speaker 1: I do believe that the elected officials in Minneapolis are

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Speaker 1: it on. Barack Obama is still doing it. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that a little bit. I was scratching my head

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Speaker 1: mail victim with a packet of ketchup. Twenty eight year

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Speaker 1: old Austin Simmons committed the battery inside of a Florida

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Speaker 1: toward Carlos Mara and threw an open ketchup packet at

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Speaker 1: ketchup on his jacket. Those words are actually in the

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Speaker 1: police report. Cops found the packet on the ground, open,

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Speaker 1: the ketchup pouring out, and packet ulto point three ounces

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Speaker 1: Smoking Gun. Simmons denied striking more with the economy in

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Speaker 1: minor incident normally be handled as a misdemeanor or just

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Speaker 1: overlooked completely. Simmons charge with a third degree felony due

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Speaker 1: to a prior twenty nineteen battery conviction. Arrest records do

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Speaker 1: not indicate where the earlier case was fouled, or whether

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Speaker 1: in addition to the battery rap, Simmons charged with possession

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Speaker 1: locked up a little of a five thousand dollars bond

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Speaker 1: on both the battery and drug counts. Just, Joe, do

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Speaker 1: you think there will be protesters in the street on

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Speaker 1: that one? You're surprised he wasn't shot fair enough, Jack,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show. Thank you for calling me

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, good morning. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing as well as I can possibly be today?

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Speaker 1: Baffled in, baffled and perplexed.

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Speaker 8: But yes, well, I just wanted to let anyone listening know,

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Speaker 8: so I'm on like an emergency call. I got to

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Speaker 8: And that's the only reason.

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Speaker 3: Why I'm out here.

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Speaker 8: But I drive a four wheel drive to Liota, and

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Speaker 8: if you are in a car, you are going to

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Speaker 8: get stuck because like Route fifty right now, I'm coming

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Speaker 8: in towards Cincinnati, it's one little lane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's.

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Speaker 8: Not even a full Lane's just tire tracks and all

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Speaker 8: of the debris from the snowplows that are on the

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Speaker 8: side streets. You're not coming off of a side street.

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Speaker 8: You're not pulling into a gas station. There's literally no

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Speaker 8: reason for anyone to be out unless they truly, truly have.

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Speaker 1: To sounder words never spoken, Jack and a morning on

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Speaker 1: a morning where we are perplexed. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for what you are doing for those people who

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Speaker 1: like you, I'm with you all day long. Jack, try

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Speaker 1: to stay off the roads.

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you. I do want to add one more thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it was rumored that Grandy's helping people get up to

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Speaker 8: not seen Granny pushing any cars anywhere. So if you

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Speaker 1: You're on your own. Jack, Thank you man. You're putting

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Speaker 1: Uh and you know, just a double down on a

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Speaker 1: Tom Brenneman complaining about that earlier. He comes off of

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Speaker 1: which is the entire parking lot where the gas station is.

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Speaker 1: So most of the places you think be plowed probably

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Speaker 1: So the likelihood of your destination being fully plowed and

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Speaker 1: Florida teenager behind bars this after hitting her mom with

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Speaker 1: a pork chop. We moved from a pack how are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Pack ketchup to a pork job. They're calling

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Speaker 1: a domestic battery, accorded to police, Eighteen year old Farah

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Speaker 1: Her mom now walked up in the Martin County jail

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Speaker 1: will cause ALFI David. Kernan's mom told police that she

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Speaker 1: in fact a pork chop. Joe, is there a specific

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Speaker 1: DNA evidence for a montgomery In pork chop? I know

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't throw them, you would eat them. That makes

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Speaker 1: the residence recorded the video of Kernan's striking her mom.

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Speaker 1: issued trespassed warning for a physical altercation with another female

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Speaker 1: as part of a deferred prosecution agreement. She was ordered

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Speaker 1: to perform fifty hours of community service. There's the answer

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Speaker 1: more to talk about, and I welcome here just to

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Speaker 1: thoughts and observations, and will pivot over to Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: asking myself there's something more nefarious going on here, and

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Speaker 1: I will again point to the global population. Generally, you

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Speaker 1: literally anything, and that may stand to reason here too. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of angry, violent leftists out there, coordinated.

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Speaker 1: They are a well oiled machine of activism. What are

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Speaker 1: they fighting for? Why would you want to interject yourself

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Speaker 1: in this? Why would you want to put yourself in

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Speaker 1: a position where you're you are putting yourself in a

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Speaker 1: position where the law enforcement agents, this particular case, ICE

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Speaker 1: agents who you hate and you think are terrible, and

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Speaker 1: you think that are untrained and incompetent. Why would you

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Speaker 1: go into a situation where one of these untrained, incompetent,

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Speaker 1: of what happened on Saturday. You're giving him an opportunity

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Speaker 1: if it's worth it, break down the cost benefit analysis

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Speaker 1: for me? What do you want to achieve through these protests?

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Speaker 1: Something always happens when you LEAs.

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Speaker 1: free pass Level three snow emergency for Hamilton County. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: I personally witness the roads coming in. If you have

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Speaker 1: Thanks to all those folks out there, first responders, people

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Speaker 1: those are the people that need to be out there.

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Speaker 1: So if he can keep the roads clear by you

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Speaker 1: not being on them, that is doing society a huge favor.

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Speaker 1: So this too shall pass. According to Joe Strecker, he

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Speaker 1: looked at the map, the City of Cincinnati's map, and

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Speaker 1: if you live in the West End, Corey Bouman, are

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Speaker 1: you out there? Apparently they've completely ignored the entire West End,

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Speaker 1: the whole area around TQL Stadium. So how coming is

647
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Speaker 1: the West End always gets a short end of the

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Speaker 1: stick there? Joe Strekker five one, three, seven, four, nine

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Speaker 1: and eight two to three talk pound five fifty on

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Speaker 1: AT and T phones. Yeah, and as I struggle to

651
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Speaker 1: deal with this reality go on to many it appears

652
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Speaker 1: that they got the martyr they were looking for, and

653
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Speaker 1: they were really hoping for this. Those love he left

654
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Speaker 1: us in the streets. They want someone to be the

655
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Speaker 1: George Floyd that they never really got out of George Floyd.

656
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Speaker 1: So we're not pivoting, we're not talking about law enforcement

657
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Speaker 1: generally speaking. And how is it that we were supposed

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Speaker 1: to demonize entire law enforcement officers. Everyone who wore the

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Speaker 1: uniform and the badge of a police officer during these

660
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Speaker 1: Antifa protests and BOLM protests, they were all evil police

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Speaker 1: officers generally speaking. Defund the police, let's just get rid

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Speaker 1: of them. What is the result of that? Eradication of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement worked out real well for California? Right? I mean,

664
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Speaker 1: they decriminalize stealing stuff. What happens, right, crime gets rampant,

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Speaker 1: They defund the police, feer police on the streets, fewer

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Speaker 1: support for law enforcement. Guess what, the cities go to

667
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Speaker 1: hell in a handbasket, lots of laws being broken in

668
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Speaker 1: the aftermath of that. Is that what we want? That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm struggling so mightily about these efforts to disrupt

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Speaker 1: ice from doing their job. Then you get the message

671
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Speaker 1: or trying to arrest bad guys what possible? But motive

672
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Speaker 1: or benefit does it give you to go and try

673
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Speaker 1: to stop them from doing what they're doing. It only

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Speaker 1: makes the situation that much works, and it only makes

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Speaker 1: it more likely that something like this is gonna happen. Ah,

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Speaker 1: Now they can scream victory. Do you want to eradicate

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Speaker 1: ice because of Again, let's just say, and I know

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Speaker 1: there's still arguments swirling around that Alex pretty was not

679
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Speaker 1: was improperly shot. There should not have been the use

680
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Speaker 1: of deadly force under the circumstances. Is your reaction to that, Oh, look, look,

681
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Speaker 1: we've got a bad egg among the ice. We need

682
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Speaker 1: to get rid of all of ice. There will be

683
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Speaker 1: no more immigration to customs enforcement period and of story.

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Speaker 1: Is that what society in America really wants? I just

685
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Speaker 1: can't swallow that. Let's pivot of to Barack Obama. Hmm,

686
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Speaker 1: this is a mixed bag of insanity what he had

687
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Speaker 1: to say. Every American should support and draw inspiration from

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Speaker 1: the wave of peaceful protests in Minneapolis. Huh. Well, I

689
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Speaker 1: suppose it's a subjective definition of peaceful, isn't it. Are

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Speaker 1: some of the protesters peaceful?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Are some of them violent disruptive? Are some of them

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Speaker 1: breaking laws in their protests?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So you can debate about that, but we should be

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Speaker 1: inspired by people going to the streets to try to

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Speaker 1: prevent the elimination of criminal elements in our neighborhoods. He said,

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Speaker 1: the killing of Alex Pratty is a heartbreaking tragedy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll acknowledge that it should be a wake up call

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Speaker 1: to every American, regardless of party, that many of our

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Speaker 1: core values as a nation are increasingly under assault. Huh,

702
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Speaker 1: what does removing individuals who are not lawfully in our country,

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Speaker 1: who are demonstrably violent or have demonstrably or proven themselves

704
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Speaker 1: rather to be criminal. Cities and states where criminal convicted

705
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Speaker 1: in jail serving their time, illegal immigrants are being let

706
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Speaker 1: out on the street rather than being handed over to

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Speaker 1: ice to have them removed from society. Is that why

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Speaker 1: you're taking it to the streets. You want these criminal

709
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Speaker 1: illegal aliens roaming around after having served their jail time.

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Speaker 1: There is a lawful justification for removing them from our country.

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Speaker 1: They committed a crime while they were here illegally. Is

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Speaker 1: that a core value amongst yourselves? He said. Federal law

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Speaker 1: and sport enforcement and immigration agents have a tough job. Well,

714
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Speaker 1: at least he acknowledge that, But of course there's a butt.

715
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Speaker 1: Americans expect them to carry out their duties in a lawful,

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Speaker 1: accountable way and to work. This is the great part. Yeah,

717
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Speaker 1: we do expect them to carry out their duties. We

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Speaker 1: do expect them to carry them out in a lawful,

719
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Speaker 1: accountable way. And we like to think that local law

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Speaker 1: enforcement will be busy dealing with the enforcement of local

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Speaker 1: laws while ICE goes about the business of enforcing federal laws.

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Speaker 1: Not happening in Minnesota, where the mayor and the governor

723
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Speaker 1: and everybody else in the entire Minnesota elected official administration

724
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Speaker 1: has come out actively against ICE and supporting protesters taken

725
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Speaker 1: into the streets and interrupt their jobs. But Americans is

726
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Speaker 1: going to carry their duties in alawful accountable way. And

727
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Speaker 1: to work with rather than against this is it? And

728
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Speaker 1: Brock said to work with rather than against state and

729
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Speaker 1: local officials to ensure public safety. That sounds me like

730
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Speaker 1: he's telling Tim Walltz, you should be working with ICE

731
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Speaker 1: to ensure public safety, because eliminating criminal, illegal aliens from

732
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Speaker 1: our city streets is about public safety. Myriad of other

733
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Speaker 1: things too, like budgeting schools, education, housing, the fact that

734
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Speaker 1: just so many illegal immigrants are using the teat of

735
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Speaker 1: welfare system to support their very existence. That's on your dime,

736
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Speaker 1: stating the obvious. For weeks now, you said, people across

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Speaker 1: this country have been rightly outraged by the spectacle of

738
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Speaker 1: massed ICE recruits and other federal agians acting with impunity

739
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Speaker 1: and engaging in tactics that seem designed to intimidate, harass, provoked,

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Speaker 1: and endanger the residents of major American cities. Well, isn't

741
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Speaker 1: that what the mob is doing? I mean, there's two

742
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Speaker 1: sides of this, coin, man. These are unprecedented tactics and

743
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Speaker 1: have now resulted in the fatal shooting of two citizens.

744
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Speaker 1: Unprecedented tactics. Yeah, the coordinated effort to get people off

745
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Speaker 1: of their butts out into the street to protest ICE

746
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Speaker 1: doing their job and interfere with them. I mean, Samie,

747
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Speaker 1: what about Alex Pretty? He did get involved and lay

748
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Speaker 1: hands on ICE agents. Bra continues, And yet, rather than

749
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Speaker 1: trying to impose some semblance of discipline accountability over the

750
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Speaker 1: agents they've deployed, the president of the current administration, officials

751
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Speaker 1: seem eager to escalate the situation while offering public explanations

752
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Speaker 1: for the shooting of mister Pretty and Renee Good that

753
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Speaker 1: aren't informed by any serious investigation and appear to be

754
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Speaker 1: directly contradicted by the video evidence. Now give him his

755
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Speaker 1: due when it comes to Alex Pretty. But renee Good

756
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Speaker 1: did floor the vehicle at the other ICE officer, you know,

757
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Speaker 1: there will be an investigation into that, and at some

758
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Speaker 1: point in time there will be some form of you know,

759
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Speaker 1: finding and that one hasn't you know, been concluded yet.

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Speaker 1: Renee Goods question mark Still Alex pretty doesn't look as

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Speaker 1: good for ICE. I feel sorry for the officer who

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Speaker 1: was stupid enough to unload on that guy. There were

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Speaker 1: four or five other ICE agents that had him on

764
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Speaker 1: the ground. One of the ICE agents had taken the

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Speaker 1: guy's firearm away from him, and you can't use hindsight

766
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Speaker 1: to justify whether or not he appropriately had a firearm

767
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Speaker 1: lawful concealed carry he was. I don't know if he

768
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Speaker 1: had an idea on him. I don't think that matters,

769
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Speaker 1: because under the circumstances, the ICE agents had no idea

770
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Speaker 1: that he was even armed up until the moment of

771
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Speaker 1: time they were on top of him, and that's when

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Speaker 1: they found the gun on him. At least that's the

773
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Speaker 1: way it seems in all the video, and that's most

774
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Speaker 1: of the conclusions they're being drawn. You can't call him

775
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Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist. There's nothing in his back have to

776
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Speaker 1: support that. Barack Obama, this has to stop. I would

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Speaker 1: hope that after this most recent tragedy administration officials will

778
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Speaker 1: reconsider their approach and start finding ways to work constructively

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Speaker 1: with Governor Walls and Mayor Fry, as well as a

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Speaker 1: state and local police to avert more cast and achieve

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Speaker 1: legitimate law enforcement goals. Well, I would argue that because

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Speaker 1: it's a federal law being enforced, that is a legitimate

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Speaker 1: law enforcement goal, most notably if you're going after the

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Speaker 1: worst of the worst, And insofar as working constructively, who

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Speaker 1: has been a bigger impediment to working constructively with ICE

786
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Speaker 1: than Governor Walts and Mayor Fry in the first place.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that are egging people on to do

788
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Speaker 1: what exactly the exactly what got Alex Preddie killed. Hank,

789
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Speaker 1: I see her on the line. I am out of time,

790
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Speaker 1: but I would be more than happy to take your

791
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Speaker 1: call when we get back, because I'm really curious to

792
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Speaker 1: know what people think about this and what are they

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Speaker 1: protesting about.

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Speaker 10: Fifty five KRZ Deep Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: At six twenty fifty five krc Detalk Station. Yes, it

796
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Speaker 1: is weird. Saw someone post on Facebook, Isn't it strange?

797
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Speaker 1: ICE is operating in dozens of states, but it's only

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Speaker 1: violent in the one where Nick Shirley uncovered a billion

799
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Speaker 1: dollar fraud ring with links to Governor Tim Waltz. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there may be something there there, but you may be

801
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Speaker 1: distracted by this. It is certainly a dominant topic or conversation, Hank,

802
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: hold on, but that fraud thing ain't going away. They

803
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: can wish and hope and pray all day long that

804
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Speaker 1: the federal government is not going to crack down on

805
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Speaker 1: the fraud wasted abuse that has only been revealed on

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Speaker 1: its surface so far. It might extend out to multiple

807
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Speaker 1: other states. We as taxpayers, regardless of politics, should be

808
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Speaker 1: collectively outraged that it could happen in the first place. Hank,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Brian, gives you a night. So this whole thing

811
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Speaker 11: boils down from near as I can tell, to just

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Speaker 11: relevance the people that are protesting there, I guess you

813
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Speaker 11: could say envious of their grandparents that we're forefronts and

814
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Speaker 11: the civil rights issues and then later the Vietnam War

815
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Speaker 11: peace riots, and in Obama's case, I think a lot

816
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Speaker 11: of it has to do which is keeping the propaganda

817
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Speaker 11: going to defeat Republicans. I think a lot of this

818
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Speaker 11: is just politics and it's being used, it's not really

819
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Speaker 11: genuine obviously, with a lot of the protesters being paid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you all day long about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of them, it's just something to rage against,

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Speaker 1: you know, rage against the machine. I'm angry and I

823
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Speaker 1: need something to be angry about, and the status quo

824
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Speaker 1: is pissing me off. So fine, there's always going to

825
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Speaker 1: be that element. But what do they hope to accomplish

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Speaker 1: by these paid protests? What do they hope to accomplish

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Speaker 1: by it? Or do they want to disrupt that it?

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Speaker 11: Like I said, it's a matter of irrelevance. It's it's

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Speaker 11: it's their emotional need to feel like they're standing up

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Speaker 11: in their grandparents' footsteps. Excuse me, but.

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Speaker 1: There's not that significant number of people out there that

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Speaker 1: believe that. I keep going back to our our United

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Speaker 1: States population, relative to the number of people on the streets,

834
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Speaker 1: what percentage of Americans out there feel the way that

835
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Speaker 1: type of person feels. Do you think there's that many

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Speaker 1: people out there just want to protest for the sake

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Speaker 1: of protest, or they do they have a goal they

838
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Speaker 1: want to accomplish, or they just you know, bored. But

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Speaker 1: how does the general Americans.

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Speaker 11: That's actually but I think that's actually a lot of it.

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Speaker 11: I think a lot of this too. Is this what

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Speaker 11: they call astro turf protesters? Yeah, these are a lot

843
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Speaker 11: of these people are there getting paid to do this.

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Speaker 1: I understand they weren't.

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Speaker 11: Protesting this, it would be something else.

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Speaker 1: I feel. Okay, okay, okay, okay, I agree with all.

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Speaker 1: I'm not disputing your statement. What I'm what I'm saying

848
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Speaker 1: is does that telegraph and does that result in vults

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Speaker 1: votes for Democrats across the broader American voting public. That's

850
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Speaker 1: the thing I struggle with. I keep reading article after article.

851
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Speaker 1: Democrats more likely to take over the House because of

852
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Speaker 1: this stuff, because of these angry people.

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Speaker 11: Anti people vote on their emotions a lot. That's the

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Speaker 11: reason we have a lot of the problems we have

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Speaker 11: in this country right now is because people are voting

856
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Speaker 11: based on an emotional rather than an intellectual situation. They

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Speaker 11: want to feel good about what they're voting for in

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Speaker 11: spite of the fact that what they're voting for may

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Speaker 11: actually be destroying the country.

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Speaker 1: That's because they haven't paid close enough attention to the

861
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Speaker 1: facts behind the emotion. That's a sad state of affairs.

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Speaker 11: I think a lot of it in that case has

863
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Speaker 11: to do with as I've said earlier, is in another

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Speaker 11: call is mental illness. I think basically they're so narcissistic

865
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Speaker 11: that they just plain old don't believe that. They think

866
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Speaker 11: their emotions matter more than facts. You can throw facts

867
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Speaker 11: at them all day long and they they'll just call

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Speaker 11: you a racist or a bigot or whatever is appropriate

869
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Speaker 11: for that particular argument. But the fact of the matter is,

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Speaker 11: I think mostly it's just a matter of mentally ill

871
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Speaker 11: people that need attention. They want to act like they're

872
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Speaker 11: doing something that's a great favor to society or human race.

873
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Speaker 11: It takes the place of religion in a lot of cases,

874
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Speaker 11: this is their religion. It's basically fighting against Republicans.

875
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Speaker 1: Certainly fighting against Donald Trump, that's for sure. But again

876
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Speaker 1: I would see I see through all this crap. It

877
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Speaker 1: is it's emotion, it's not fact base. Do they really

878
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Speaker 1: really really want to get rid of all the ice ages,

879
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: all the lawenforce And that's the default position you have

880
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Speaker 1: to go to if you follow their emotion, which doesn't

881
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Speaker 1: make any damn sense to me, because we're all far

882
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Speaker 1: more vulnerable and in a far worse state. If we

883
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Speaker 1: don't enforce laws in this country, the whole thing collapses

884
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Speaker 1: on itself. And ultimately, I think that's what the goal

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Speaker 1: is for the leftists. Least are the ones that the

886
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: ones that are stirring the pot. They want this great experiment,

887
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: now two hundred and fifty years in the making, to fail.

888
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: It has done so well in spite of what the

889
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: leftists want and their socialists utopia, that it fails when

890
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Speaker 1: you're looking at life, economics, business freedoms, liberties through a

891
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Speaker 1: factual lens as opposed to an emotional lens. Communists, Socialists, Marxists,

892
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Speaker 1: they're all about emotion. And when you look at it

893
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Speaker 1: and you apply their economic theories and you put them

894
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Speaker 1: to the actual test by employing them in running any

895
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: given country, they collapse on themselves to the benefit of

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Speaker 1: no One's at New Hampshire. Gary's on the phone, Hang on,

897
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Speaker 1: buddy and get your call. Next five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred ET detalk station by Thomas right here,

899
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Speaker 1: wishing Eady a happy Monday, and startingly recommended you stay

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Speaker 1: off the roads. Gentleman by the name of Jack, who

901
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: was out delivering much needed medical supplies to folks that

902
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Speaker 1: are stuck in their homes. Strongly encourage everyone to stay off.

903
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: It's terrible out there, he said. He called back. He

904
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Speaker 1: told Joe as soon as he crossed the bridge into Kentucky,

905
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Speaker 1: all the roads were cleaned. I'm not saying he folks

906
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Speaker 1: completely authority as to all the roads in northern Kentucky.

907
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Speaker 1: But I think Joe suggested maybe that was Was that

908
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Speaker 1: a reflection of incompetence on this side of the river.

909
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Speaker 1: Joe's that is that the conclusion he drew there. It

910
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Speaker 1: is on the nose New Hampshire, Gary, thanks for calling

911
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Speaker 1: this morning, and a happy Monday to usurpe. You're dealing

912
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Speaker 1: okay with the weather up there.

913
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Speaker 4: We survived white deep.

914
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Speaker 6: I'm on the highway going to work now. It's just

915
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Speaker 6: something you gotta do. Yeah, well, you're more used the

916
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Speaker 6: roads clear up here.

917
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Speaker 1: Well, you're better at it in New Hampshire than we

918
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Speaker 1: are here. I would imagine.

919
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Speaker 6: I followed eight snowflowers, one behind you.

920
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: There was a It was a beautiful thing. We know

921
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 4: how to do it.

922
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Speaker 1: That's how you get the job done. What's on your

923
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Speaker 1: mind today?

924
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Speaker 9: There?

925
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Speaker 4: Get the job done. I talk to somebody who is

926
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Speaker 4: near and dear to my heart, destiny pastors.

927
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Speaker 6: And it's such a strong thing that's going on in

928
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 6: the country with the ice and illegal it has caused

929
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 6: a rift between us somewhat, and it breaks my heart.

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Speaker 4: All right.

931
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Speaker 6: I can tell you, based on everybody I work at

932
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 6: at work, that half this country believes everything. They don't

933
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Speaker 6: believe that the illegal immigrants are breaking time. They don't

934
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Speaker 6: even believe that there's fraud, massive fraud going on.

935
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Speaker 4: They don't believe that they're state protesters.

936
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Speaker 6: They don't believe and they do believe that this is

937
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 6: all a riff going on, that with the Republics or

938
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Speaker 6: the Trump administration was the actual words.

939
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Speaker 4: This is a rip because they're.

940
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Speaker 6: Taking advantage so that nobody looks at the Epstein files.

941
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Speaker 6: That's well, you can laugh at it, but that's their belief.

942
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Speaker 6: That really frightens me is these people are now talking

943
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Speaker 6: civil war revolutions and all this not. It doesn't matter

944
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Speaker 6: what I want, It matters what they think.

945
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Speaker 4: If you think there's.

946
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Speaker 6: A bear on the other side of the door and

947
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: you open the door and you die of a heart attack,

948
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 6: that bear doesn't matter if it's real or not. It

949
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 6: really matters that you're dead right, and this is how

950
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Speaker 6: war begins. You know, the first casualty of.

951
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: All wars is the truth, right.

952
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Speaker 6: And I see a lot of I see this country

953
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Speaker 6: ripping itself apart.

954
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Speaker 4: Because of it.

955
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that.

956
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Speaker 4: To a lot of people, that's what they want.

957
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I am thoroughly convinced that what they

958
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Speaker 1: want me. They even said that earlier in the program.

959
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 6: I would say, and I would go further and saying,

961
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Speaker 6: not only is it what they want, but it works

962
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Speaker 6: all the propaganda.

963
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 12: Between the schools, a media.

964
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Speaker 4: Your news, it works. It is working. We're losing.

965
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Speaker 6: We're losing because they came out with an ice. They

966
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Speaker 6: want to really do away with ice. They do, and

967
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Speaker 6: then that's not all they want to do. They really

968
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Speaker 6: want to start a revolution. Like Tim Walls, who I

969
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Speaker 6: believe is a Chinese plant because he spent most of

970
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Speaker 6: his life and when I say Chinese plant, he had

971
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Speaker 6: girl Chinese girlfriends from high executive you know, council and China.

972
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Speaker 6: He spent a lot of time over in China. He's

973
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Speaker 6: got a lot of dealings with China. And you know,

974
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Speaker 6: I see stuff like this, and of course they're gonna

975
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Speaker 6: whip it up and some alleagues and all this. It

976
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 6: is to divide and conquer. And they're doing a pretty

977
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Speaker 6: good job.

978
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Speaker 1: Oh there is no question they aren't doing a great job.

979
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: And it is really sad. That's why I laughed out loud.

980
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen a lot of people put you know,

981
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: try to draw arrows and connect with something else completely

982
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: unrelated to the ice protests, with the ice protest, like, oh,

983
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Speaker 1: this is really why they're out in the street, or

984
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Speaker 1: that's why they're really out in the street. I'm sorry

985
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: for laughing. So a lot about Epstein files. That's obviously

986
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: a source of disagreement between me and the Trump administration.

987
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: You know, if if they're at the root of all evil,

988
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: then I even want to see them more than I

989
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: did previously. So my apologies for laughing at that. But yeah,

990
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Speaker 1: I think hear that all right. But why would they

991
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, It's like Margaret Thatcher used to say, you know,

992
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: the bad thing about socialism. Socialism is you end up

993
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: running out of other people's money. Don't these crazies see

994
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: the next step? Do they ever divorce themselves from the

995
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: religion long enough to appreciate. Well, wait a second. If

996
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Speaker 1: I get my goal, which is the elimination of whatever

997
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: is then in their minds the United States of America,

998
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: the elimination of the Constitution, the eradication of our freedom's

999
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: rights and liberties, taking away of all of our rights

1000
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: to keeping bare arms, go on and on and on

1001
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: and on, and we start redistributing the wealth of those

1002
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: who make money in this country. That you defeat the

1003
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: actual goal of one of you have to make money,

1004
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: it's to be able to benefit yourself, and then all

1005
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: the welfare collapses, all the social programs have to go

1006
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: away because nobody's producing anymore. See history as a guide.

1007
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: But I guess they're that dumb. A lot of people

1008
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: in the world have gone down that path to their

1009
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: own peril then as well. It's a great example of

1010
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Speaker 1: that six thirty seven right now, If you I have

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Speaker 1: There's six forty two here fifty five KRCP talk station

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Speaker 1: welcoming phone calls. I am Brian Thomas, host of the

1017
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Speaker 1: morning show. I'm trying to get your take on the

1018
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Speaker 1: insanity here in America five on three seven four fifty,

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's the statement from a friend that I dearly love

1023
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Speaker 1: good Man served his country in the uniform. He's got

1024
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Speaker 1: several years on me, but he's a little more liberal

1025
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Speaker 1: than I am. Well, he said, yeah, this is no

1026
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Speaker 1: longer this is no longer recognizable as a country. I

1027
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Speaker 1: wore the unitform four fifty plus years ago. Thank Heavens

1028
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: for brave citizens risking their lives to get videos so

1029
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: we can all see with our own eyes. Well, and

1030
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: if that's the motivation of people to be in the

1031
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: streets to videotape what ICE is doing, of course you

1032
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: have the First Amendment right free assembly, free exercise, free speech.

1033
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: Public recordings are not private. You can go out and

1034
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: about and record publicly. People do it every damn day.

1035
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: We know that all the time because literally everything is

1036
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: on video. So I don't even a problem with people

1037
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Speaker 1: doing that. I think we all want white a law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: whether it's ICE or local law enforcement, to follow the

1039
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: law and not use deadly force if it's not necessary

1040
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: or reasonable. Fine, if it takes a public element, public

1041
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: watchdog with video cameras to stand around make sure that's

1042
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: being done all day, you're allowed. Just don't interfere with

1043
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: them doing their job. That's what it hits the fan.

1044
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: But this more importantly goes to my point all along.

1045
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Speaker 1: And thank god if it gets passed, because now the

1046
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Speaker 1: Democrats are talking about shutting down the federal government because

1047
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: they want to defund ICE completely. Oh were they looking

1048
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: for an excuse to stop the government When they were

1049
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: on it looked like a greased path to get the

1050
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: government funded fully. But part of the funding included millions

1051
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Speaker 1: of dollars for ICE agents to have body cameras. And

1052
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't that go a long way to solve some of

1053
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: the issues swirling about the conduct of ICE officers. I

1054
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: know it wouldn't fully satisfy the left. Oh my god,

1055
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Speaker 1: they're not going to turn their cameras on or they're

1056
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Speaker 1: going to alter evidence or whatever. Yeah, but since a

1057
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: police department wears video camera, that's not a problem for them.

1058
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Speaker 1: In fact, pointed out many times to say it again,

1059
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Speaker 1: it's benefited the members of law enforcement more than harm

1060
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Speaker 1: them in any way, shape or form. They know they

1061
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: are being watched because they're the ones that are the watchers.

1062
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Speaker 1: They're video cameraing everything they're doing while they're engaged in

1063
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Speaker 1: their work. I call that a good thing. It protects

1064
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: members of the public from rogue, crazy police officers, maybe

1065
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Speaker 1: racist ones, not all of them are. We know that

1066
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Speaker 1: provide's a foundation for evidence should something happen, and honestly,

1067
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Speaker 1: if they were ubiquitous, it would alleviate the need for

1068
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Speaker 1: people to stand around on their own free time video

1069
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Speaker 1: cameraing ICE or police doing their job. But this is

1070
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Speaker 1: beyond video cameras and filming what ICE is doing. This

1071
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Speaker 1: is getting in roadways, this is blocking their vehicles, this

1072
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Speaker 1: is calling the police, dosing them or swatting them. It's

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Speaker 1: harassing them. It's going to hotels and telling the hotels

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Speaker 1: that they better damn well kick the ICE agents out

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Speaker 1: or they're going to have a riot on their hands. See,

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Speaker 1: that's beyond the pale. I think that, quite honestly, by

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Speaker 1: threatening people is beyond the protections offered by the First

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Speaker 1: Amendment to a large degree six forty five fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: The talk it's fifty here, fifty five KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 1: FOP president Ken Kober returns to the program after the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour news talk about the rules of

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Speaker 1: engagement and what should be the rules of engagement for

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Speaker 1: protesters given what went on in minute Minneapolis. Ongoing interference

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Speaker 1: with ICE agents. Again, standing by and watching them is

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Speaker 1: different than interfering with them, And of course the minute

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Speaker 1: you start interfering, that's when bad things happen. Logical and

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Speaker 1: reasonable people might consider the well, maybe I don't want

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Speaker 1: to interfere with ICE might be a bad thing, because

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Speaker 1: you know, those ICE agents are all untrained and they

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Speaker 1: don't know what the hell they're doing. So that would

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Speaker 1: mean I am intentionally getting into a situation involving an

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Speaker 1: unstable ICE agent, and I might get killed because they're

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Speaker 1: all out to murder us. So why would you do that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know. So, as we watch the ever growing division

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Speaker 1: in this country, one thing that I think we all

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Speaker 1: need to be thoughtful and happy of that we have

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Speaker 1: a at least a reasonable supply of energy. And I

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Speaker 1: got it. I was happy to move and pivot away

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Speaker 1: from this for this Minneapolis thing, just for a moment

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Speaker 1: and think again. The editorial board of The Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal for acknowledging this. This weekend's our Glasses put much

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Speaker 1: of the United States grid through a stress test and

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Speaker 1: served as another alert about the growing risks to electric

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Speaker 1: power reliability. Americans can be grateful the Biden crowd didn't

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Speaker 1: succeed in forcing all coal plants to shut down. North

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Speaker 1: American Energy Electric Reliability Corp. Worn in November that extreme

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01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: winter conditions extending over a wide area could result in

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Speaker 1: electricity supply shortfalls, and that's what happened. Ridge temperature supercharged

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Speaker 1: and manned areas where Americans use electricity for heating, especially

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Speaker 1: in Texas, in the Northeast and Midwest, where more people

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Speaker 1: get heat from natural gas. Less fuel was available from

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Speaker 1: power plants at weather cost plant outages and you have

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Speaker 1: all the ingredients for a grid emergency. Grid operators, the utilities,

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: and the Trumpet Energy Department had to pull out all

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Speaker 1: stops to keep the lights and heat on for tens

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Speaker 1: of millions of Americans. Utilities in the Midwest on Saturday

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Speaker 1: directed customers and lower thermostats unplugged non essential appliance has

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Speaker 1: reduced temperature settings to on electric water heaters. Hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoy lukewarm showers and curling up in a heavy coat

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Speaker 1: with a book. Energy Department also waved emissions rules. This

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: is critical. Check this out. Waved emission rules so fossil

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Speaker 1: fuel plants could run at maximum capacity early Sunday morning

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Speaker 1: call accounted for some forty percent of power in the

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Speaker 1: Midwest MISO Grid, twenty four percent in the eastern US

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Speaker 1: PJAM Intercontinent Interconnection, and eighteen percent in Texas, with most

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Speaker 1: of the rest coming from natural gas and nuclear. Didn't

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Speaker 1: see windmills in there, did you. New York's back blockade

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Speaker 1: on gas pipelines has constrained the fuel supply for power

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Speaker 1: plants across New England. Power plants in the region had

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Speaker 1: to resort to burning oil, which accounted for forty percent

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Speaker 1: of electricity at times of peak demand. Get this, The

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Speaker 1: region generated more power from burning wood and trash than

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Speaker 1: from wind power. Little dose reality setting in there. Climate

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Speaker 1: Crown claims that solar, wind and batteries can replace fossil fuels,

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Speaker 1: with those sources contributed little power in most places over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Wind and solar are not reliable during inclement weather.

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: Batteries can discharge power only for a few hours at

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Speaker 1: a time, which doesn't much help during a storm that

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Speaker 1: stretches for a day or two or four. Deep freeze

1140
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Speaker 1: energy scare underscores why the Energy Department issued emergency orders

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Speaker 1: in recent months to stop the political closure of coal

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Speaker 1: plants in the Midwest. The grid needs all the coal

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Speaker 1: power it can get when temperatures plunge of skyrocket. Environmental

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Speaker 1: groups of challenge of departments orders. Is the goal to

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Speaker 1: reduce carbon emissions by making Americans freeze? And why is

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: there a goal of reducing plant food from our environment?

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Speaker 1: H Yeah, reality sets in. It's like the reality of

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Speaker 1: lawlessness and the breakdown of the very moral fabric in

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Speaker 1: cities when you pull the plug on even enforcing laws. Rebecca,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling. Happy Monday

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 14: Oh, happy Monday to you. Brian.

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Speaker 1: It's on your mind, Rebecca.

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Speaker 14: Oh about the you know right to video, which yeah,

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Speaker 14: we do. Yeah, but from just from a photography standpoint

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Speaker 14: of it, you know, we are not going to to

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Speaker 14: be standing six inches away from our kid when we're

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Speaker 14: video and then blowing out the birthday candles. They're not

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Speaker 14: going to be standing six inches away from our kid

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Speaker 14: when they're riding their bicycle down the street. For the

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Speaker 14: first time we're going to be back, We're going to

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Speaker 14: be at a distance so we can get the whole scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So these people saying that they're there to just video,

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Speaker 14: they're not videoing it when they're six inches away from

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Speaker 14: the ICE agents. Clearly there to disrupt, clearly so using

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Speaker 14: the whole they're there to video stuff when they are

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Speaker 14: in the middle of what the action is is is

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Speaker 14: an untruth.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I was not painting with that broad

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Speaker 1: of a brush. I was merely reacting to the comment

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Speaker 1: of my friends.

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Speaker 14: But some people need to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And I'm glad see Rebecca. That's why I

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Speaker 1: love my listening audience, because maybe someone out there was

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Speaker 1: operating into the delusion that I was. I was suggesting

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Speaker 1: it's okay to be six inches away from an ICE

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Speaker 1: office through a video camera. No, that would be interference,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we're trying to avoid. Yes, Rebecca, you

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Speaker 1: are right. Have a wonderful day, and stay warm and

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Speaker 1: stay safe and try to stay off the roads along

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Speaker 1: with everybody else. Six eighty fives Stick around FLP President

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Speaker 1: Ken Kober on the give You Rule. Seven six fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station trying to make it to have

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Speaker 1: you money and stand the hell off the roads. That's

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01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: what Hammond County Sheriff said, Hamilton County snow level three

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Speaker 1: snow emergency. All roads are closed in on emergency personnel.

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Speaker 1: No one should be driving a list it's a personal emergency.

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Speaker 1: On that note, welcome back to the fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Not necessarily to talk about the road conditions.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back FOP President Ken Kobe A representing the Cincinni

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Speaker 1: Police Department. Always are great to have you on the program.

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Speaker 12: Ken Heay, Good morning, Brian, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's pleasure and of course to talk about the rules

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Speaker 1: of engagement given what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, can I talk about

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Speaker 1: the roads just real quick here? First off, there is

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Speaker 1: a stage three emergency. I understand that. What does it

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Speaker 1: mean to my listening audience. Does this mean they're not

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Speaker 1: legally allowed to drive unless it's a personal emergency. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm wondering what the true effect is. I

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Speaker 1: know no one should be out on the roads because

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Speaker 1: they suck, But beyond that, legally speaking, what does.

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Speaker 12: It Yeah, I think you're gonna it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 12: pressed to be able to enforce this now, I will say,

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Speaker 12: and that does make sense. I mean I talked to

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Speaker 12: cops that are working third shift. They're like this, and

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Speaker 12: the roads are impassable. They are so I think the

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Speaker 12: whole point of that is, listen, if you absolutely don't

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Speaker 12: need to be on the road, don't be on the road.

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Speaker 12: You know, hopefully just saying look, this is what could

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Speaker 12: happen would be enough, because you know, if the police

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Speaker 12: stop somebody driving sideways down we'll say Reddick Road or

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Speaker 12: you name it whatever, Central Parkway, and they go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 12: I was just going to see if there was a

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Speaker 12: liquor store open, they might have a problem, you think.

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Speaker 12: You know, look, I'm trying to get to the hospital,

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Speaker 12: or look, I have to be at work because my

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Speaker 12: business isn't closed. They're they're going to certainly allow you

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Speaker 12: to get there. But if you don't need to be

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Speaker 12: on the roads, don't be on the roads because they

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Speaker 12: are terrible.

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Speaker 1: Right now, well, I think you already answered my question

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Speaker 1: kind of about law enforcement. I was thinking of you

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Speaker 1: and and dealing with, you know, terrible road conditions in

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Speaker 1: the past. What does it mean for the law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 1: You guys are driving around a rear wheel drive Sedan's

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Speaker 1: for the most part. Do you change vehicles to deal

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Speaker 1: with issues? Now, obviously we have to anticipate a much

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Speaker 1: slower reaction time, to the extent we call nine to

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Speaker 1: one one.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, it can put chains on the tires.

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Speaker 12: The problem is those chains only work if there's snow there.

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Speaker 12: If once roads are starting to be covered. You know,

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Speaker 12: they don't work very well on roads that don't have

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Speaker 12: snow on them. So it does make it difficult. And

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Speaker 12: that's the whole purpose is. You know, the police need

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Speaker 12: to be available for emergencies, not for somebody because they

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 12: slid off the side of the road because our car

1240
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 12: got stuck, because you know, they decided they wanted a

1241
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Speaker 12: big make at two o'clock in the morning. So that's

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Speaker 12: where they're trying to emphasize that. Look, the roads are

1243
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Speaker 12: really bad. Unless you need to be out there for

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Speaker 12: something that's that dire, please just stay home.

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Speaker 1: That is sound advice. So heat it. Ken Kober says it,

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Speaker 1: Sheriff says it. I'm saying it because I've been on

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Speaker 1: the roads this morning. It's just not good out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot over to Minneapolis. I think this

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Speaker 1: is the martyr they have been looking for. And my

1250
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: take on it anyway, I didn't really personally judging it

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Speaker 1: from the legal standard of reasonable and eminent apprehension of

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: grievous bodily harm or death. If you have that and

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Speaker 1: that feeling is reasonable, you're allowed to use deadly force

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Speaker 1: under most circumstances. I is that the standard that law

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Speaker 1: enforcement looks at as well when using deadly force?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: Sure, I mean you have Graham versus Connor. You know,

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Speaker 12: it's a nineteen eighty nine Supreme Court decision of what

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Speaker 12: you suff force, how yousuf force can be applied, and

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Speaker 12: it's what's reasonable to the officer at the time, not

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Speaker 12: to be watching still videos or you still frames slowing

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Speaker 12: down videos. Find you can't have twenty twenty hindsight. It

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Speaker 12: has to be in that moment. What did that officer

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Speaker 12: know at the time? Was it reasonable? That's what is

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Speaker 12: applied to cases like this. Now. I will say with this,

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Speaker 12: with this one in Minneapolis, whether the officer did the

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Speaker 12: right thing or not, I think it's still yet to

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 12: be seen. But you have politicians on both sides of

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Speaker 12: the aisles coming out going some of them going as

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Speaker 12: a murderer, some of them going listen to, this guy

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 12: just did what he's supposed to do and without having

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01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 12: all the evidence. That is extremely, extremely inappropriate. But people

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 12: have already made up their minds. Now we have people

1274
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 12: that are making AI videos, AI still images, and that's

1275
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 12: that's the problem. Is what you know, what on the

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Speaker 12: internet is actually true and what's not, and it's will

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Speaker 12: whatever fits my motive is what I'm gonna do. And

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 12: that's that's the real problem. It's become a very polarizing

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Speaker 12: thing here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, most notably because most people are not inclined to

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01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: do the heavy research it takes to get to the truth.

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Speaker 1: They are duped by the artificial intelligence created image. They

1283
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: are duped by whatever side of the political ledg or

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: website is trying to, you know, to push people to

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Speaker 1: a certain direction. Whether the ice agent was completely appropriate,

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Speaker 1: his actions were coletly and lawful, or he was an

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Speaker 1: evil murderer who gunned down an innocent individual. If you

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: just surround yourself with one narrative and you buy into

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Speaker 1: it because of politic if it's your political perspective, then

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Speaker 1: I think we're all lost as a society, and it

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Speaker 1: transcends what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend. But I'm

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Speaker 1: with you completely. We need all the evidence first, But

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Speaker 1: judging from the fact that you've got it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty demonstrably true. There were three, four,

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Speaker 1: five ice agents. They had this guy tackled to the ground.

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Speaker 1: You know what, It doesn't seem likely that will be

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: a circumstance that would give rise to this Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: my life is in peril. That's the thing I think

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Speaker 1: most people are struggling with them trying to reach a conclusion,

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Speaker 1: an accurate conclusion on this one.

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Speaker 12: Ken Well, sure, And like I said, you watch these

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01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 12: videos that blurry, their grainy who knows without knowing what did?

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01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 12: What did these officers say? You know, you know it's

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 12: off he's in the video. Like I said, I don't think.

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,959
Speaker 12: I don't know that you can necessarily draw a conclusion

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01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 12: of there's one that supposedly they see them taking a

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 12: weapon from this guy. Who knows was this guy then

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 12: reaching for someone else's gun. And like I said, I'm

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01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,440
Speaker 12: not saying this is true. I'm just giving a scenario

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Speaker 12: where this could be justified, but maybe it's not. I mean,

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 12: it could be as simple as somebody had a gun out,

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 12: you know, they had an accidental discharge, and then all

1313
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 12: of a sudden, there's sympathetic fire because people are thinking that,

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 12: oh that's good. At this cops life in dangers, they

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Speaker 12: start firing rounds. I'm not saying any of this is true,

1316
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 12: but these are scenarios that could either show that they

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 12: were justified, it could show they're not justified. But what

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01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 12: they need to have and what a public should be

1319
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 12: looking for is let's come out and see what this

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01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 12: entire investigation shows. Maybe these six officers, I don't know,

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 12: maybe they said listen and it was an act. I

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,919
Speaker 12: didn't mean to fire this round, or yeah, I absolutely

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 12: did because he was grabbing the third officer's gun. I

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 12: saw it, and I knew if he got a hold

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 12: of this gun, he could shot some of these officers.

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Speaker 7: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's certainly a valuable or a viable option

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Speaker 1: there ken we don't know yet.

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Speaker 12: No, And for politicians to be outgoing this guy is

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 12: a murderer, and then you have the other side going

1331
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 12: he's just doing he supposed to do. This is his job,

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 12: he has right to protect himself, you know, until they

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 12: have all of the facts. It's just it's ridiculous that

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 12: it's come to this. But we also have let's think

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 12: about this, and this is how this is how our

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 12: brains work. You know, think of as a child growing

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 12: up and you got a younger or older sibling and

1338
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 12: you guys get in a fight. One is going to

1339
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 12: go run into mom and dad and go, this is

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 12: what happened. This is what happened. And of course mom

1341
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 12: and dad immediately go, that's what had does happened, right,

1342
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 12: because that was the first story I heard. So now

1343
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 12: you have both sides chasing the media to get out

1344
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 12: their narrative first because that's what some people are likely

1345
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 12: going to believe. Yeah, and this is this is the

1346
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 12: problem with what we have going on with society. Instead

1347
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 12: of waiting for facts to come out, we're just going

1348
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 12: to put out what our narrative is that supports supports whatever.

1349
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 12: You know, my agenda is, that's what we want to

1350
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 12: get out. Instead of waiting, let's get all of the

1351
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 12: facts out and then people pass judgment. And that's just

1352
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 12: not what we're seeing.

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: Well, in the elephant in the room for me all morning,

1354
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 1: and it has been for a long time. Is really

1355
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: getting behind and finding out what the agenda is. What

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: do they hope to accomplish by not enforcing immigration laws,

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01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: particularly involving the elimination of the hardest core criminals from

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: our country. I mean, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't

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Speaker 1: embrace that. I mean, there may be some decent, wonderful

1360
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants here and final they've been living their lives

1361
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: for the last ten years. They should be on the

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: less that. You can make that argument all day long,

1363
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: but I mean, the focus of the Trump initiative has

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01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 1: been to get really evil, bad people out of neighborhoods,

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: and that everyone would show up to impede that operation.

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: That element doesn't make sense to me, and that's why

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01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm really looking for this true you know, you know,

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: the why behind the motive to come out. You know

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01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, No.

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Speaker 12: Without a doubt. This is what's really has me kind

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 12: of scratching my head is you know, you you're against

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 12: these laws, like you said, these these agendas, instead of

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 12: you know, going into your your US senator, your US

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 12: representatives and going listen, I don't like this law. You

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 12: got need to change this from Capitol Hill. Now instead,

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 12: what are they doing. They're going out and they're you know,

1377
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 12: they're blowing whistles. They're trying to interfere with ice, which

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01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 12: these folks are here legally doing a job. And I've

1379
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 12: actually studied human performance for Science Institute is a fantastic

1380
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 12: institute that you can actually get certified in being an

1381
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:44,440
Speaker 12: analyst of you know, looking at human performance by you know,

1382
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 12: for lack of better terms, humans and what happens when

1383
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 12: they're under stress. You know, decision making we know goes

1384
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 12: down when they're under stress. So a bunch of people

1385
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 12: yelling and screaming, blowing whistles, you were making these situations worse.

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 12: I'm not saying you don't have the right to protest,

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01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 12: because you do have the right to protest, But the

1388
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 12: problem is you're making this worse, you know, by putting

1389
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 12: more stress on these agents that are trying to do

1390
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 12: this job just because you simply don't like the law.

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Speaker 12: And that is I mean, it's not surprising that these

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01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 12: things are happening. You know, whether they end up being

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01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 12: right or they end up being wrong, that'll come out

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01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 12: in time. But it just doesn't make any sense do

1395
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 12: things the right way. Never in the United States. If

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 12: we're in a time where we go, I don't like

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 12: this law, so I'm going to resist law enforcement, You're

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 12: going to lose. It's just the bottom line, whether it

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01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 12: ends up losing by going to jail or unfortunately this

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 12: guy losing his life because he ends up getting in

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 12: a situation that's just a tragic one. But people somehow

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01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 12: have been so involvement. Well, if we don't like the law,

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 12: we're just going to resist law enforcement and seek that

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 12: that's okay, and it's just not.

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: And then going back to your earlier point, that creates

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: a very tense situation in the mind of the law

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: enforcement off when they're surrounded by these angry mobs constantly,

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: it's much more likely that's going to result in the

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: tragic scenario, which of course happened over the weekend. Ken Coober,

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: God bless you man, You and every one of the

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Cincinne police officers and all law enforcement officers. I wish

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: you the best out there. Be careful on the roads them,

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01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: give the officers a break, folks. Just stay off the

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01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: roads of the extent possible. And Ken, I don't envy

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01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: one days like today. But then again, I don't envy

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: law enforcement generally speaking, but we sure do appreciate you

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: and here on the fifty five k Sday Morning Show

1418
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: have your back.

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Speaker 12: Brother, Well, we appreciate your support. As for your listeners

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 12: as well. Thank you.

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01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: Have a great week, my friends. Stay safe and stay warm.

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01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: Seven to seventeen. Christopher smith Amen, with a Smither event

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01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: up next, Fast and pro Roofing. You may have an

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01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: ice dam Yeah, that pesky twelve fifteen inches of snow

1425
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: can cause problems for roofs station on a Monday. That

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: means one thing for sure. Christopher Smithman, former Vice Mayor

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Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati for the Christopher Smitheman Smither Event.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. It's always great having you on

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 13: Oh thanks for having me on, Brian. I tell you

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01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 13: this weather is something that's very rare for Cincinnati and

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01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 13: our region, and I've been listening to your show. I'm

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 13: just reiterating what you were saying earlier. People should stay

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 13: off the roads, be very very careful. You know, a

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 13: level three is real. You just heard the FOP president,

1436
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 13: you know, say an officer could stop you. So what

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 13: they're really just basically saying is make way for firefighters,

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 13: police officers, you know the trucks that are that are

1439
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 13: removing the snow. So you're keeping it safe for everybody.

1440
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 13: And the biggest risk on top of what we have

1441
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 13: now is this the cold weather and so there's arctic

1442
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 13: air that's coming in. We all have to respect even

1443
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 13: going out to your car just trying to clear it off. Well,

1444
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 13: you start saying fifteen and seventeen and twenty degrees below

1445
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 13: zero going in tonight, that is very, very significant for

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 13: our region.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you keep your eye on loved ones,

1448
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: most notably seniors who might be living alone if the

1449
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: power goes out. You know, that's a serious problem right there.

1450
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: So we all need to stand at mind our p's

1451
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: and cues, and you know, I guess the best way

1452
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: to get out of the way of law enforcement and

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01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: emergency vehicles and snowplous is just don't be on the

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01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: roads in the first place. Hey, speaking of roads, did

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: you get your street plowed? Christopher? Because if you look

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 1: at the city map, it doesn't look like the west

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: end got any love. But I just asked Corey Bowman

1458
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: by a way of text, if he's his area got plows.

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: Waiting to hear back from moments, just wondering if the

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01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,919
Speaker 1: former vice mayor street got plowed.

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Speaker 13: No, we're still worth our side. Streets are are still

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01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 13: not plowed. And you know, all all I can say

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01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 13: to the city is, you know, when I served with

1464
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 13: John Cranleigh, one of the things that he did a

1465
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 13: good job in these these emergencies is communicate, communicate and communicate.

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01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 13: I always I always find it interesting that our mayor

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01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 13: and members of council kind of just disappear. Yeah, so

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 13: they don't make themselves available, they don't come on your show,

1469
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 13: they don't you don't see them on the news. You know,

1470
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 13: they don't see you don't see them riding in the

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 13: middle of the night with the snow trucks. Really just

1472
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 13: you know, really pumping up those men and women and

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 13: let's thank them for all the work they've been working

1474
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 13: around the clock. Try definitely file with mini streets as

1475
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 13: they can. But the leadership kind of like goes home.

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 13: They're sitting in their warm houses and they're really not

1477
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 13: out there on the front lines with the city workers

1478
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 13: trying to get it done. And I think, you know,

1479
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 13: this is again, I haven't seen the mayor anywhere who

1480
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 13: you can find them with the search warrant. And that's

1481
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 13: the problem with this leadership.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's an excellent point, Christopher, because you

1483
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: know the road crews are probably working there, you know,

1484
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, you know, working hard, and they're doing as

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: much as they can with the resources they have. There

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: are so many roads they have to clear. It's impossible

1487
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: to stay up on it. This is it's a record snowfalls,

1488
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: the most snow we've got at one time in twenty years.

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01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: So at minimum America go out and say listen, we're

1490
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: on top of it. We'll get to you eventually. But

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: you have to understand the volume of snow is not

1492
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,480
Speaker 1: something you can just wave a wand and make it disappear.

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01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: So if your road hasn't been addressed yet, it's because

1494
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: we're working on the main thoroughfares trying to clear things

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Speaker 1: up for the vast majority of folks and will ultimately

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Speaker 1: get to it. And I presume that's what's going on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the silence is deafening, and that is it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a modus operandi when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: AFT have provol administration.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but then what you do what you see them

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 13: holding press conferences on are resolutions about, you know, essentially

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 13: we don't like ice or we don't want ice in

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01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 13: our community, you know, over the last two weeks. So

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 13: when they do talk, they seem to be off message,

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 13: are very distracted by what they should be focusing on.

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 13: That's what's frustrating for me. I mean, I'm sure they're

1507
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 13: going to hold a press conference at some point, but

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01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 13: it won't be about the snow removal, the side streets

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01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 13: or any of that. It'll be nonsense, and I think

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01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 13: it pivots me into just my heart goes out always

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01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 13: when you have loss of life. Brian Thomas, like I said,

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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 13: I have quite a few questions about the shooting that

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01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 13: happened well in Minneapolis, but we'll get I know, we'll

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01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 13: talk about it. But that's what I'm going to tee

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Speaker 13: up as we come back after the break.

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Speaker 1: Well done, Christophers, segue to the break. I couldn't have

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01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: done it better, absolutely seven twenty six. Right now more

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Speaker 1: with Christopher Smithman and the smith Event. Happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Christopher smith Aman we call the smither Event. Christopher,

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01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: you're getting ready to segue over to the tragedy in

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01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: Minneapolis over the weekend. I just find it really weird.

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: The protesters are running rampant in the street. They don't

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: want ICE doing their job, or they're looking out for

1524
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: whatever that splitting up families, whatever the argument is. You know,

1525
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: Obama deported more people than any other president he was.

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01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: He gave Tom Homan, the guy who's still in the

1527
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: same role, a Presidential Rank award, I mean for Distinguished

1528
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: service awarded in twenty fifteen during the Obama administration, the

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01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: highest honor for federal career executives that is given. He

1530
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: was in charge of ICE enforcement and removal, which was

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01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: quite successful under Obama, brought Obama back then called the

1532
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: deporter in Chief by immigration groups Christopher. He also uh

1533
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: had the same strategy deport criminals. That was basically his

1534
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: standard objective. We are going after the hardest of hardcore criminals.

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01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: It's the same policy that Trump is using. Not a

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01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 1: peep from anybody during the Obama administration. Hmmm, that's interesting.

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Speaker 13: And people died, meaning there were situations that ICE agents

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 13: had during his administration. All of those things are absolutely facts.

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Speaker 13: You know, I want to just rewind because I do

1540
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 13: think that this is a close call. Uh, but oh yeah,

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Speaker 13: it's the totality. It's the totality of the facts to

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01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 13: the public. It's not the one moment where he was

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 13: disarmed and he was shot. It's the totality of this thing.

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 13: And so when I look at the incident and I go, Okay,

1545
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 13: there's a protest happening. I'm a concealed carry meaning I

1546
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 13: carry a weapon most of the time, right legally. When

1547
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 13: an officer pulls me over, which has happened, my hands

1548
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 13: are either outside that window or they're in the ten

1549
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 13: two position. And when that officer walks up to my car,

1550
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 13: even though on my license plates, I already know he

1551
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 13: knows I could possibly have a weapon. I tell him

1552
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 13: I have a weapon in my vehicle. It's in my

1553
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 13: console or it's in my glove compartment. I'm gonna wait

1554
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 13: for your instructions to tell me what I do next.

1555
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 13: I want that officer relaxed and comfortable as I get

1556
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 13: out my wallet and my registration, and that officer doesn't

1557
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 13: believe I'm reaching for anything. It's about following instructions and

1558
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 13: complying with the law. The problem here is you've got

1559
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 13: a guy who goes to a protest with a gun legally,

1560
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 13: but then he begins to engage the officers whatever that is.

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 13: He's in his mind, there's a woman being pushed. You've

1562
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 13: got a weapon. Maybe this is not your day to

1563
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 13: intervene in this situation. Maybe it's never, but never with

1564
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 13: a weapon, never with a semi automatic weapon. So let's

1565
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 13: acknowledge that this man was making some very poor decisions

1566
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 13: out there as he was engaging federal officers who were

1567
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 13: rightfully there doing what they should be doing as far

1568
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 13: as not they're not breaking the law. And now you

1569
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 13: have somebody engaging with a weapon. And I just want

1570
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 13: to say that everything that happened after that, right, those

1571
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 13: decisions ended up with the unfortunate death of this guy.

1572
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 13: And so my heart goes out to his family. I

1573
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 13: believe as I look at the video and if people

1574
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 13: are going to have more information than Christopher Smitherman will have, right,

1575
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 13: it's a close call. But you're gonna have to get

1576
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 13: in the minds of the officers, meaning did they know

1577
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 13: that he was disarmed? Meaning an officer this is like

1578
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 13: un you know, like when the gun was taken, did

1579
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 13: they did the other officers there at the time though

1580
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 13: that he no longer has a weapon or.

1581
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: Even the initial question is is And I'm not sure

1582
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: we even have the answer on this one, Christopher. Did

1583
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: they even know he was armed in the first place,

1584
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: because a lot of people saying, a lot of videos

1585
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: suggests the only thing he had in his hand at

1586
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: any time was the cell phone, and that no time

1587
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: did he ever brandish the firearm or pull it out.

1588
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: And then it was only during the sort of the

1589
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: ice pile on top of him that the gun was

1590
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: even discovered to be on his person. So you know,

1591
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with someone going to a

1592
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: protest and being armed. If they're lawfully entitled to carry

1593
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: a firearm, how that may be the best place to

1594
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: have it, because it's more likely you're going to face

1595
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: violence or maybe eminent apprehension of death. So okay, the

1596
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: more dangerous the situation you're going in, the more likely

1597
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: it is you might want to carry one. Never would

1598
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: you pull it out unless you were a face with

1599
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: those type of circumstances. But the mere fact of the

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Speaker 1: existence of a firearm on his person, I don't think

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01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: is this positive of what happened here? Well, lots of

1602
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: questions still floating out on that one.

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01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 13: I think this again, I think this is a very

1604
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 13: different situation. It's a cross car. I feel very differently

1605
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 13: about this than I did about actually the car situation

1606
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 13: where the citizen was trying to run down the ice officer.

1607
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, right politically, what

1608
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 13: I see are Democrats who are interested in power. This

1609
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:32,799
Speaker 13: is all contrived, meaning they're out protesting because we're going

1610
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 13: into a mid term election. They want power, and the

1611
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 13: governor there is jetting this up for the entire country.

1612
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, he's tried to influence the other states across

1613
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 13: this gate great country and make everybody mad because he

1614
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 13: wants everybody protesting across the United States of America because

1615
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 13: they are interested in what power mid term elections. They

1616
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 13: are the ones that have the chaos. They're acting as

1617
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 13: if this chaos is coming from the White House, right,

1618
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 13: because you started your show talking about President Barack Obama.

1619
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 13: He actually deported more people than any president. He gave

1620
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 13: Tom Holman this great award in the White House. You're

1621
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 13: highlighting that because you're saying, look, hey, there were when

1622
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 13: when President Barack Obama was doing this, when people died

1623
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 13: when he was doing it. You didn't see the uproar

1624
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 13: that you're seeing now. Now there's some people that will say, well,

1625
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 13: he did it differently, the way he approached it differently.

1626
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 13: There are people out there that will say that. But

1627
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 13: at the end of the day, here's what I'm trying

1628
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 13: to say to you. What we're seeing breaking into hotels,

1629
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 13: you know, getting trying to block ice officers with their vehicles,

1630
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 13: blocking traffic and all of that, getting in front of

1631
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 13: vehicles that are that are moving on highways or on streets.

1632
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 13: You are raising the temperature. Sure every time one of

1633
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 13: these ice officers are out there trying to do their

1634
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 13: job and we're asking them to make these split second decisions.

1635
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 13: The last point I'll make is this is all rooted

1636
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 13: in defund the police, reimagine the police. This is the

1637
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 13: Democratic Party that doesn't use those words anymore. But at

1638
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 13: the end that they knew it, they know it was stupid.

1639
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, this is the

1640
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 13: result of all of that. They have planted these seeds

1641
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 13: to hate the police. They do not like police officers,

1642
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 13: They do not like law enforcement officers. And this is

1643
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 13: a profession in my lifetime that was very well respected

1644
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 13: over the last hundred years. The reality of it now

1645
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 13: is this Democratic Party, which is a party that I

1646
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 13: don't even know. I don't even know what this party

1647
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 13: is anymore. Are they socialists? Are they communists? What in

1648
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 13: the world is going on with the Democratic Party when

1649
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 13: they are out protesting Bryant Thomas people being removed for rape,

1650
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 13: for murder, for robbery, for or DUIs where they're killing

1651
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 13: their families. I meaning, there are some really bad people

1652
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 13: that are being removed by Ice right now. I don't

1653
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 13: understand what the Democratic Party is protesting here and why

1654
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 13: this is not a unifying moment between Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians

1655
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 13: and independence that we want criminals who are in our

1656
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 13: country illegally out well.

1657
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: That used to be the stated objective of the Obama administration. Again,

1658
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: times have change. Maybe Evil Orange Man, and you're point

1659
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: about the midterm is exactly the reason this is going on.

1660
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: ELSA might want to protect all the fraud and the

1661
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: money that flows from the fraud that they engage in,

1662
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: which is pretty rampant. One more walk station money money

1663
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: with Brian James after the top of the air news

1664
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: but if you topics go over with him. In the meantime,

1665
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman on the phone doing the Smitherman Christopher, what

1666
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: else is on your mind?

1667
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 8: Sir?

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01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 13: You know what is so scary is I watch these governors,

1669
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 13: no matter which one of them, and I think about

1670
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 13: the google natorial race in Ohio, and it really underscores

1671
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 13: to me what I know Ohio must do, which is

1672
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 13: elect favek Ramaswami as the next governor for the state

1673
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 13: of Ohio. You know what what I'm watching is the

1674
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 13: importance of that office. What the governor is saying right now.

1675
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 13: Will they support ice, will they support basic law and order?

1676
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 13: Will they support school systems? You know, it has been

1677
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 13: amazing in a tragedy what I've been looking at coming

1678
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 13: out of Virginia obviously, you know, Minnesota, all these other

1679
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 13: places man where these governors are in place and they

1680
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 13: are not cooperating with law enforcement. But they're also ceeding

1681
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 13: a generation of people that feel that they cannot trust

1682
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 13: or do not like police officers. And I think that

1683
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 13: is in incredibly dangerous for the United States of America.

1684
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 13: The importance of the governor's race in Ohio is critical

1685
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 13: and part of this campaign of protesting, like the way

1686
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,600
Speaker 13: they burst into a church, you know, and which was

1687
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 13: so dark on ridiculous. People are praying on worshiping and

1688
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 13: you're there protesting in their church or what we see

1689
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 13: last night with them busting into hotels setting things on fire.

1690
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 13: If we do not elect a governor in the state

1691
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 13: of Ohio who will make sure that all of us

1692
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,839
Speaker 13: are safe in these important inflection points, will have chaos

1693
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 13: in the state of Ohio. And part of this goal

1694
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 13: is to make those who have conservative values those who

1695
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 13: are independent, to make us feel like we're out of sort,

1696
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 13: to kind of suppress us from voting many mentally, mentally,

1697
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 13: just like we came out of the local election. We

1698
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 13: have to make sure that we meet the craziness that

1699
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 13: we are seeing right now in our country. We have

1700
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 13: to keep the energy, meaning we're not out there protesting

1701
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 13: setting things on fire, but when it comes to the

1702
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 13: election day, we must meet them at the gate. All

1703
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 13: of us must be registering the people around us, our

1704
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 13: eighteen year old who are turning eighteen. For example, my

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01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 13: daughter turns eighteen years old too. I want to make

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Speaker 13: sure she's registered to vote. I'm not going to allow

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Speaker 13: her to vote where she goes to college. She's coming

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Speaker 13: back home to vote, and she's going to vote our

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Speaker 13: values of this family. So we have to make sure

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Speaker 13: we're taking charge, Brian Thomas, and we are getting ready

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Speaker 13: for what I would say is a critical election in November,

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Speaker 13: the midterm election where we are electing the next governor

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Speaker 13: for the state of Ohio. And number two, we are

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01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 13: making sure that we are electing the judges in our

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01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,480
Speaker 13: city and in our counting brother who right now continue

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01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 13: to let criminals out in the street. So we've got

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Speaker 13: to make sure that we are ready. And I'm just

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01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 13: worried that these kinds of protests are beating conservative people down,

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Speaker 13: and I think that's very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: You know, and that you're concerned that it's very dangerous

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Speaker 1: as a concern of mine as well, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I obviously, the mainstream media is what it is, and

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01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: they're going to spin it how they want to spin it.

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01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, we know how they spin it. But more

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01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: and more articles, more and more polls, more and more

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01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: surveys suggest that, you know, the Democrats are going to

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01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,839
Speaker 1: like traditionally take over the midterm elections, which is, you know, historically,

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01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of something you can hang your hat on,

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01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: but doesn't necessarily have to be true. But that this,

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01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: this singular issue would result in people turning their backs

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01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: on Republicans across the board on all issues we've done

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01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: such eight or well Republicans have done such a fantastic

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01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,440
Speaker 1: job like ferreting out fraud, waste and abuse, a completely

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01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 1: bipartisan issue that should even be something to talk about

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01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: other than to applaud the efforts of the faradoft fraudwats

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01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: and abuse. That's something. The whole idea of guys competing

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01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 1: against women in sports that seems to be a rock

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01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: solid eighty twenty if not more kind of on the

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01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: Republican side of the Ledger issue. Nobody on the Republican sides,

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01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, suggesting that that's right. Just go issue after issue,

1741
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: reducing the regulatory burden, lowering energy prices, these are all

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01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 1: things that Trump's on the winning side. That one bad action.

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01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: If you just to concede that this was a bad

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01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have been killed, this protester, that there

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: was no justification for the use of deadly force, does

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Speaker 1: that convince people who are otherwise clear headed on all

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01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: of the important issues that matter every single day, that

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01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: that would have an effect and impact them. I just

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01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: don't want to believe I live in that world, Christopher Smithman.

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Speaker 13: I mean, just think about the removal of Maduro from Venezuela,

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01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 13: and we had people protesting that that should not have

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01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 13: had happened, even as Venezuelan people were saying this was

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01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 13: excellent for them, as a matter of fact, very broadly

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Speaker 13: across the Latino community, whether people who are from Mexico

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01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 13: or Columbia, or whether they're Cuban, whether they're from the

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Speaker 13: Dominican Republic, you saw a unified message from Latin Americans

1757
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 13: and people who are Latin across the world saying this

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01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 13: was the right decision that the White House made. But

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01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 13: the Democrats were on the streets protesting that, saying they

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Speaker 13: support Madua, who really wasn't the president of Venezuela. That's

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Speaker 13: what I'm saying, these major disconnects where you hear people saying,

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Speaker 13: why are you out there supporting criminals? I mean, we're

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Speaker 13: the person that in the house that I'm removing right

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01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 13: is a rapist. They're a convicted rapist. Why are you

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01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 13: in the street saying you are mad blowing whistles as

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01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 13: Ice is carrying out a convicted rapist. And so I'm

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01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 13: just saying the Democratic Party again, I'm gonna continue to

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01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 13: say this. So many Democrats continue to say, listen, the

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Speaker 13: Democratic Party didn't leave me right. I didn't leave the

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Speaker 13: Democratic Party. The Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Left me right.

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Speaker 13: They can't even recognize the Democratic Party at this point,

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01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 13: meaning I'm the same way. I'm not a Democrat, but

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01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 13: I'm looking at going man. There was a time where

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01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 13: blue dog Democrats you can kind of recognize the party,

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01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 13: but I can't even recognize the party here because they're

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01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 13: doing so many crazy things. And I'm just saying the

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Speaker 13: election Brian Thomas is so important, and I want your

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Speaker 13: listening audience to know, let's get ready to vote. We're

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Speaker 13: not people that protests were not about violence, you know,

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01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 13: we're not about destroying property. But it doesn't mean that

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01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 13: we don't have to have the same energy when it

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Speaker 13: comes to November and match this anarchicicy that we're seeing

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Speaker 13: across the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Christopher Smithman's words. Look what happened in New

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Speaker 1: York City. They elected a blank and communist for mayor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think these lefties haven't made great

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Speaker 1: inroads and have have got this strong, very very far

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01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: left base. That's the Democratic Party that's left you basically,

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01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: but they're making substantial inroads across this country and I

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01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: find that to be an awfully frightening thing.

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Speaker 13: Christopher Smithman, I do, and Brian Thomas, you know what's

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01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 13: also interesting, and I very rarely get down into this

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01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 13: identity politics. But it's just an observation. I don't see

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01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 13: a lot of black and brown people at these protests. No,

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Speaker 13: they seem to be very much white women, white males,

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01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:55,959
Speaker 13: young white males, middle aged white women. I just went elderly.

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Speaker 13: But when I look out and I see the people protesting,

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Speaker 13: no matter where they are, I don't see the black

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Speaker 13: and brown people that they say that they're there to protect.

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Speaker 13: You know why, because Latinos want the same thing, say

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01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 13: communities they don't want to be living next to a

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01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 13: gang member are racist. So it's amazing that they're out

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01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 13: there saying keep them in the community, and the brown

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Speaker 13: and black people are saying, I want them out.

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Speaker 1: Various stude observation, as is always the case, every Monday

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty with the former Vice Mayor of the

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati, we call it the Smith VN Christopher Smithman,

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Speaker 1: Love you brother, be safe out there. Seventh fifty one

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Speaker 1: two five KRO City Talk Station, Money Money with Brainy

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Speaker 1: four fifty five KARS Talks Stations. Yeah, just going over

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Speaker 1: the award winning record of Tom Homan, who the left hates,

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01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: now who the left love, while he was in the

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01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 1: same capacity throwing people out of our country. During the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration, twenty thirteen, three hundred and twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: criminal aliens were convicted of agnated fellty, a felony or

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Speaker 1: multiple felonies. Twenty fourteen, three hundred and sixteen thousand individuals

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Speaker 1: from the US deported, and all of them, you know, criminals.

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Speaker 1: This was the focus of the Obama administration. He removed

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Speaker 1: more illegal immigrants from this country than any other president under.

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Speaker 1: Oh look Tom Homan, who he gave an award to

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Speaker 1: for doing his job. What happened? Do you remember the

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Speaker 1: protest from back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen during the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration. Oh my god, there's evil Ice agents. Now

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama was doing a victory lap talking about how

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Speaker 1: many people who threw out of our country. That was

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Speaker 1: what the Democrats did back then. Clinton too. The only

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Speaker 1: thing has changed with Republican and Democrat presidents prior to

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Speaker 1: current our current occupant of the White House. It's the

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Speaker 1: current occupant of the White House happens to be Evil

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Speaker 1: Orange Man. Ergo, if Evil Orange Man wants it, then

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01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: we got to go after it and raise three forms

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01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: of holy hell and put our lives in jeopardy by

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: interfer with ICE agents who are doing exactly what they

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Speaker 1: were doing during the Obama administration, which everyone seemed to

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Speaker 1: love and appreciate. Crazy. Welcome to our country. Well, we

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Speaker 1: celebrate two or fifty years of just absolute success. Brian Monday.

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Speaker 1: Monday's Brian James after the top of the hour news.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around. Today's top headlines coming

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Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour changes every minute.

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Speaker 10: Fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Get it not to follow in illegal order.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they know Clay and Buck Today at noon point

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Speaker 8: fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: At six to fifty five KRC, the talk station, stay home,

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01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: says everybody. It's a bad out there, so there's no

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01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: reason to be on the road unless there's a really

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01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: important reason to be on the road. Just please stay

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01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: off if at all possible. Someone who's on the phone,

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: and I guess the markets are open even though we

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01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 1: got Snowmageddon going on. Welcome back from all Worth Financial

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Speaker 1: Brian James for another edition of Money Monday. It's always

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Speaker 1: great having you on my program, Brian.

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Speaker 9: Welcome, It's always great being here. Appreciate it. Yeah, the

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01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 9: market's open. Doesn't usually close for snow.

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01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 1: Has it ever closed for weather?

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01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 9: Not that I can recall. Maybe I'm trying to think

1858
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 9: of a hurricane Sandy shut it down. I can't remember

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01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 9: nine to eleven, that was a big thing. I do

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01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 9: remember kind of wondering that week what was going on,

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Speaker 9: But I don't I don't recall any weather closures in

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01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 9: my twenty nine years doing this.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough and off to the race's guard. What it

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01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: really impacts? I mean, I'm looking at the market this morning,

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01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: So the whole shooting in Minneapolis apparently no impact on

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01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: Wall Street. Futures are about flat and just a little

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01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: tiny down for the S and P five hundred like

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01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: point zero seven, he says. I'm staring at it now

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Speaker 1: right now, dal up point zero one, so zero impact.

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01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 1: What does it take to really impact the market these days?

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01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole idea of Trump takes over Greenland

1872
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 1: didn't seem to really do anything. He announced one hundred

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01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: percent tariffs on Canada the other day. I mean that

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01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: hasn't registered apparently, and Davos and his energy policy and

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01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,799
Speaker 1: his standing in defiance to the world leaders, that apparently

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01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: had no ripple effect. Like some I'm wondering what it

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01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: takes to actually impact to market.

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Speaker 9: Brian Generally, I would I would point out the tariffs

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01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 9: because no, the Canadian tariff threat over, because that's not

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01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 9: real yet. Right over the weekend, that didn't have an impact. However,

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01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 9: a week and a half ago or so, we did

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Speaker 9: have a tariff threat and that did take the markets

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01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 9: down for a day, right we put it right back,

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Speaker 9: and then you go back to April when this round

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Speaker 9: of tariffing really really kicked in and the market went

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Speaker 9: down almost twenty percent. So the tariffs do so I

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01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 9: would say it is a it's when the news results

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01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 9: in a calculable impact to profits. There's an awful lot

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01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 9: going on out there that I hate to boil it

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01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 9: down to just are we making money or not. There's

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01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 9: so much going on out there and we're just not

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01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 9: in a great spot on a lot of levels. At

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01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 9: the moment. But to to answer the question specifically, if

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01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 9: you can't calculate the impact on dollars flowing in and out,

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01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 9: then it's probably not going to have an immediate impact

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Speaker 9: on the markets overall.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, currently penning before the Supreme Court, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like we're going to get a respond

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Speaker 1: or an answer very quickly. It's given that they're I

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Speaker 1: guess they're on a four week recess or something thereabouts.

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01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Right now, the Supreme Court's going to rule on Trump's

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01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 1: terriff actions, and most observers of things Supreme Court are

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01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: suggesting that they may very well override his unilateral actions

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Speaker 1: on tariffs. I guess it would be complicated unwinding what's

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01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: been done so far, because say what you want about tariffs,

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01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: he was able to negotiate some pretty decent agreements with

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Speaker 1: some foreign nations because of the tariffs. Will all of

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01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 1: that be undone? Will the promised investments from so many

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01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: countries and the trillions of dollars that apparently have been committed,

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01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: will that be Will the plug be pulled on that?

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Speaker 1: And that seems to me that would have a profound

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Speaker 1: impact on the market.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, because again to my earlier point that would

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Speaker 9: involve I mean, if we're gonna unwind these tariffs, well,

1915
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Speaker 9: guess what the people who paid them have to have

1916
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Speaker 9: to go back now now, I'm what I'm really curious

1917
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Speaker 9: about is how are we going to unwind this without

1918
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Speaker 9: If we have to do this right, we're not nowhere

1919
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Speaker 9: neble to do with the way you kick this off.

1920
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Speaker 9: The Supreme Court punted. It's probably gonna be February before

1921
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 9: they talk about it again. So it's not sew any

1922
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 9: panic right now. But at the end of the day,

1923
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 9: if it does need to be unwound, well then I

1924
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,879
Speaker 9: supposedly we would be writing checks back to the countries

1925
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Speaker 9: that paid these tariffs, and I cannot imagine there's not

1926
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Speaker 9: going to be a big hue and cry from consumers

1927
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Speaker 9: here in the United States saying, hey, prices went up

1928
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Speaker 9: immediately after these tariffs went in place on a lot

1929
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 9: of different things, so these countries didn't pay it, We're

1930
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Speaker 9: going to be writing them checks for absolutely no reason,

1931
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Speaker 9: which would literally be the opposite of the intent of

1932
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Speaker 9: the tariffs.

1933
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you know that raises another question which

1934
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Speaker 1: I haven't really been quite able to figure out. Brian James,

1935
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Speaker 1: maybe you can answer it. Where did all this tariff

1936
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Speaker 1: money go? It clearly had not gone to pay down

1937
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Speaker 1: the national debt, which is still rising as we speak.

1938
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Speaker 9: I can't remember the last administration that really cared about

1939
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Speaker 9: the national debt and barely even mentioned it, you know,

1940
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 9: in the campaign periods too. So it goes into the

1941
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 9: general fund. That this is something I've looked up before

1942
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 9: the decision, is that it goes into the general Fund,

1943
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,879
Speaker 9: which is sort of means that it kind of supports

1944
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 9: everything we do, but it also sort of means that

1945
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 9: it's not assigned to anything. To your point, and we've

1946
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 9: done an awful lot of things to spend money that

1947
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 9: really has nothing to do with, you know, with propping

1948
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Speaker 9: up the American economy or paying down the debt or

1949
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 9: anything like that. There's a lot of money being spent

1950
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 9: on things that really aren't related to the intent of

1951
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 9: the tariff the way it was kind of laid out.

1952
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Speaker 9: So the Supreme Court is debating whether the president has

1953
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Speaker 9: the power to do this in the first place. There

1954
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Speaker 9: are decisions in the past. There's one from eighteen ninety

1955
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 9: two that holds that Congress, not the president alone, is

1956
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 9: the only one that could delegate tariff authority. So that's

1957
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 9: what the Supreme Court is looking at. Presidents could administer

1958
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 9: tariffs under laws like the McKinley Tariff, and that was

1959
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 9: there's also a Smoot Holly Area, right, this is I

1960
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 9: have to remind everybody that they did see Ferris Bueller's

1961
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 9: Day Off once and that's all we know about the

1962
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 9: Smooth Holly Area era. But in those tariffs did worse

1963
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 9: than the Great Depression, and so rules were put in

1964
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 9: place that says that would say that you can't do

1965
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 9: this this easily. Well, that's exactly what we've done over

1966
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,839
Speaker 9: the past twelve months. That's what the Supreme Court is debating.

1967
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 9: I have a feeling the history, the history and the

1968
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 9: precedents are fairly clear to the Supreme Court, who relies

1969
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 9: a lot on two hundred fifty years worth of presidence.

1970
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, but they're probably worried about the impact of

1971
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 9: undoing it if they're going to try to follow those presidents.

1972
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, that's I think that's at the heart of

1973
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Speaker 1: the heart of the matter. And can you address, if

1974
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: possible on the fly what's the story? And thank you

1975
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Maureen for reminding me of this is a great time

1976
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Speaker 1: to ask money. Monday's Brian James. What's the story with

1977
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: gold and silver? I mean we're looking at north of

1978
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars gold and north of basic one hundred

1979
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Speaker 1: and ten dollars an ounce silver. We haven't seen prices

1980
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: like this ever.

1981
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Speaker 9: That's true, well, those types of assets, those speculative types

1982
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 9: of commodities, right, because a commodity is just something that

1983
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 9: is worth what the crowd says it is. That doesn't

1984
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 9: mean it's a good or bad investment. But there's nothing

1985
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 9: else driving it. It's just the crowd, the auction crowd,

1986
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 9: wanting to buy more and wanting to sell one. That's

1987
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 9: the only thing drives these prices. But you can't you

1988
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 9: can't look at gold and say, well, there's there's industrial

1989
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 9: demand for it all of a sudden, they're putting it

1990
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 9: in cell phones or anything like that, or silver or

1991
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 9: anything like that. It's just the flight of money to

1992
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 9: save spaces, and whenever there is there is concern about

1993
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 9: all these types of things, that's where you'll see it happen.

1994
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Speaker 9: And so yes, gold has just surged past five thousand bucks,

1995
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 9: got to about fifty one hundred dollars, and that's been

1996
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 9: going on for a while now. Silver is above one

1997
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 9: hundred dollars an ounce. That's also a record. And the

1998
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 9: thing is, though, there is a limited amount of people

1999
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,919
Speaker 9: who are willing to adjust their portfolios to this extreme,

2000
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 9: and there's a limited amount of time that they're going

2001
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 9: to be willing to do it. So it's like a

2002
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 9: flock of birds. You can't look at earnings reports. You

2003
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 9: can't look at you know, gold's you know, forecast of

2004
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 9: what they think is coming, you know next quarter, there

2005
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 9: is none. It's worth nothing more than what people say

2006
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 9: it is. And the herd is going to stampede the

2007
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 9: other direction at some point. So you know, there's nothing

2008
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 9: wrong with owning these types of things, but be reasonable

2009
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 9: about it. Don't throw everything at it just because the

2010
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 9: headlines are scary. There is ample evidence over the past

2011
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 9: several decades of the time that is not a good

2012
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 9: idea to buy gold, and that's when it makes a

2013
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 9: new high.

2014
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Speaker 1: Well, and apparently you anticipated my next question. I was

2015
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Speaker 1: going to ask you, are there any historic parallels with

2016
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Speaker 1: the current spike we're seeing. I realize we've never seen

2017
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars plus goal, but have we ever seen

2018
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Speaker 1: a jump and a spike like this over a period

2019
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: of time, only to fall back to what you and

2020
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Speaker 1: I might consider normal or you know, back to normal.

2021
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, so there. Gold is usually consistently known as a

2022
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 9: store of value whenever there's confidence in governments, you know, currencies,

2023
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 9: those kinds of things, and it tends to perform best

2024
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 9: when we've got high inflation, geopolitical conflict, financial system stress,

2025
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 9: you know, loss of trust, and monetary fiscal policy, those

2026
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 9: kinds of things. Well, guess what, that's what we have, right, yeah,

2027
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 9: precisely what's going on. So some histories of this. So

2028
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 9: in nineteen seventies we had inflation and policy chaos. This

2029
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 9: was remember that the US abandoned the gold standard in

2030
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 9: nineteen seventy one, So talk about question that drove inflation

2031
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 9: and gold went from thirty five bucks an ounce to

2032
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 9: over eight hundred by nineteen eighty and in the eighties

2033
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 9: of the nineties it was weak. We had falling inflation.

2034
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 9: This was the birth of the stock market as we

2035
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 9: know it today. Right, this was the first couple decades

2036
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 9: where really nothing bad happened. Nineteen eighty seven no longer

2037
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 9: counts Black Monday or whatever we called it. Then that's

2038
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 9: just you can't even find that in a chart anymore.

2039
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 9: But that was a period where gold really got weak

2040
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 9: because investors looked toward other things. So if you believe

2041
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 9: in what this administration is doing, if you believe in

2042
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 9: these business deals that are being put in place, and

2043
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 9: in the notion that a good business supporting administration is

2044
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 9: good for the stock market, then don't fall asleep on

2045
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 9: those types of investments just because in the shorter term

2046
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 9: gold is getting a lot of attention.

2047
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: We will continue with Brian James on this money find

2048
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 1: out about interest rates. The Fed gonna pause the lowering

2049
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: of interest rates, They're gonna raise them, They're gonna remain static.

2050
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump gonna get his way? More with Brian

2051
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: James stick around you right back in the morning, we

2052
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: have breaking news eight eighteen. If you have CARROCD talk

2053
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 1: station or a Happy Monday to you doing that money

2054
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 1: Monday thing or financials Brian James, who will strongly urge

2055
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: you to get a financial planner sitting on the same

2056
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 1: side of the table as you. Someone who's charging a

2057
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: fee based upon your account and its value. That encouraged

2058
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: them to increase the value of that which is a

2059
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: fiduciary obligation if financial planner should have to you, right,

2060
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: Brian James.

2061
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much. I think that's a pretty close assessment

2062
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 9: of what it is. Really, what it means is I

2063
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 9: got to understand what you need and so I can

2064
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:45,879
Speaker 9: justify what I do with your portfolio.

2065
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's worked out well for the Thomas family over

2066
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: the years, So I strongly encourage someone to do the

2067
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 1: exact same thing because I don't want to have to

2068
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 1: pay attention to it and interest rate we do. Yeah,

2069
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 1: I know it's your job. I mean I don't have

2070
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:00,719
Speaker 1: to deal with it interest rates obviously. You know, Donald

2071
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: Trump in a war with the Fed. He wants the

2072
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 1: interest rates low. This reminds me of the Carter administration

2073
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: when we had stagflation and he bickered back and forth

2074
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: with the pet Fed chairman. He was on his knees.

2075
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: Carter was begging him to lower the interest rates, which

2076
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: were in the double digits back then, to no effect

2077
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: because of the you know, the inflation realities and the

2078
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: employment reality. Stagflation, I guess required high interest rates to

2079
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: keep things in check. But fast forward to now, Donald

2080
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 1: Trump's looking at thirty three point five to three point

2081
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: seventy five interest rate currently, But once I'm even lower,

2082
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 1: what's the FED going to actually do. They don't have

2083
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 1: any obligation to listen to any president what he or

2084
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: she desires, right they.

2085
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 9: Don't, except for you know, part of me feels like

2086
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 9: Brian that there's this sort of weird lame duck period

2087
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 9: we've got with this FED chair because he may hang

2088
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 9: around for the rest of his term. He may not,

2089
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 9: depending on whatever the Trump administration can accomplish. They would

2090
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 9: very much like him gone, even though Trump is the

2091
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 9: one who kept him in during that whole transition. So

2092
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 9: I feel like there's gonna be there's not a whole

2093
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 9: lot of news coming out of this one that the

2094
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 9: general consensus is that there's nothing coming out of this

2095
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 9: upcoming meeting, simply because there's there's more descent among the

2096
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 9: Fed Committee than anything else right now. There's there was

2097
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 9: in the last meeting there were two members who wanted

2098
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 9: no change, one was looking for a half percent reduction,

2099
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 9: but anyway, a lot of the sense against another quarter

2100
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 9: point cut. So I think the markets are going to

2101
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 9: be paying much more attention to whether Chair Powell is

2102
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 9: able to unite the committee as opposed to actual ray changes.

2103
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 9: There's not really much change anticipated.

2104
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 4: For this one.

2105
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that just sort of stay out loud that

2106
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,919
Speaker 1: this whole thing is alchemy. If you got all these brilliant,

2107
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, fed chairs sitting in different parts of the

2108
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: country and all coming up with different conclusions on whether

2109
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: we think keep things status qull raise them or lower them.

2110
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: They're all looking at the same data. How do you

2111
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: come up with a different conclusion on that unless there's

2112
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: different you know, sort of economic methodologies to look at it.

2113
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Do we have a bunch of Keensians out there mixed

2114
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: with a bunch vo I don't know, Chicago Malthusians, Australian

2115
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 1: economy schools or you know, Chicago School of Economics, Milton

2116
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Friedman stuff. I mean, what what is the reality of that?

2117
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 9: We just lost a third of our listeners, I think.

2118
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 9: But I'm sorry now now, of course, there are there

2119
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 9: are different ways of thinking about this, and that's why

2120
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 9: we have a chair. That's why, you know, that's why

2121
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 9: there isn't a you know, a group think type decision.

2122
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 9: It's the chair who makes the ultimate decision, you know,

2123
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 9: And so that's the person who is sitting in that seat,

2124
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 9: and that's the person Trump doesn't agree with. His His

2125
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 9: background is a little bit different. Trump is a no

2126
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 9: holds barred, all profits at all cost type of a leader,

2127
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 9: and that's every decision that he makes. So he wants

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Speaker 9: the rates down yesterday. He wanted them down during the campaign,

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Speaker 9: you know, two years ago. So you know, I think

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Speaker 9: that part is pretty clear, and that's that's why there

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Speaker 9: is the battle against between the White House and the

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Speaker 9: Fed Chair simply because he's not acting the way that

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Speaker 9: we feel would the way the administration feels would be

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Speaker 9: the most friendly toward business and the quickest manner possible.

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Speaker 9: You mentioned you mentioned the Carter administration, and this is

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Speaker 9: a little bit similar to the Nixon administration too. Part

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Speaker 9: of the reason that we had stagflation was Nixon badgering

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Speaker 9: the FED Chair at the time to lower interest rates

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Speaker 9: because there was an election coming up and he wanted

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Speaker 9: to goose the economy, and so that happened. By the

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Speaker 9: time the impacts of that were felt, that was the

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Speaker 9: roots of stagflation. Then Nixon was out of office and

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Speaker 9: we had a period of that long period where we

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Speaker 9: had inflation but no economic growth, no really identifiable economic

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Speaker 9: grow because it usually at least comes along with accelerated activity,

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Speaker 9: which trickles through the economy. Prices are getting higher, but

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Speaker 9: people are making more money, and no it's not keeping up,

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Speaker 9: but there's still there's still growth there. That is not

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Speaker 9: what happened in the seventies. We got the inflation with

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01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 9: none of the good stuff out of it either.

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Speaker 1: Good point, well, and you met another good point you

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01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: made there in brief in passioning about the interest rates.

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Speaker 1: It lowers businesses borrowing costs because they too borrow money.

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Speaker 1: Now that's something that isn't I would argue, at least

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Speaker 1: across the board generally speaking, a problem with supplying demand.

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: Most of my audience, I imagine, once the interest rate's

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Speaker 1: lower because they've got young people that would like to

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Speaker 1: buy a house, or they would like to buy a

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Speaker 1: house themselves, or they bought one with a higher interestrate

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Speaker 1: and want to refinance down to something else. You can

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Speaker 1: refinance what you got. But this is not A lower

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01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: interest rate is not going to change the housing problem,

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Speaker 1: is it. It's just going to make It seems to

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Speaker 1: me it'll only increase demand on a housing supply that

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Speaker 1: is limited already.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, there's a lot of people out there who could

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Speaker 9: These are conversations I have in my office. Yeah, who

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Speaker 9: want to buy, need to buy, but are just you know,

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01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 9: but they can hold off. So they're waiting for lower

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Speaker 9: interest rates on those mortgages. And so, yeah, there is

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01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 9: a there's pent up demand out there that's going to

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Speaker 9: prop up a housing priceis and that will go directly

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01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 9: in the face of some of the things that the

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Speaker 9: President has thrown out there that he would like to fix. Remember,

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Speaker 9: we wasn't that long ago we talked about fifty year

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Speaker 9: mortgages and maybe bonuses for first time home buyers, those

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Speaker 9: kinds of things. None of that reacts to the idea

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01:57:57,400 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 9: that houses are way more expensive now for people at

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Speaker 9: that stage of life than they were over the past decade.

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Speaker 9: And then maybe there's not much you can do about that.

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01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 9: But all that's gonna do is goose demand and push

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Speaker 9: prices up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now, sort of a boiled down question. I don't

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Speaker 1: know whether you can answer it real quickly or not,

2185
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: but got to ask it as a financial planner when

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Speaker 1: you're having these conversations with individuals, is it still a

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01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: good idea to buy house?

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Speaker 9: I think once you know, for darn certain that you're

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Speaker 9: where you're gonna be, you're ready to put roots down,

2190
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 9: you know your your your jobs are secure, you know

2191
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 9: those kinds of things. Then I think it makes sense

2192
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 9: because if you're gonna, if you're gonna subscribe to the

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01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 9: idea that all they need to do is rent and

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Speaker 9: so it'll be somebody else's problem and it's too expensive anyway, Well,

2195
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 9: now you are completely beholden to whatever the rental landscape is, uh,

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Speaker 9: and you'd you'll be paying as much or more over

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Speaker 9: the decades with those annual increases than you would if

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Speaker 9: you had to deal with mowing your lawn and fixing

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Speaker 9: your own home, you know, hot water, heater and all

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01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 9: that shovel the driveway show them, Yeah, exactly, you know.

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Speaker 9: Then I got another one, another round of that coming

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Speaker 9: up today. So if over the longer term, if you

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01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 9: feel like, yes, I know where I want to be,

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01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 9: this is the neighborhood, this is the you know, these

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01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 9: are where our jobs are, then I think buying a

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01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 9: home is a good idea. Buying a home for the

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01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 9: decades old notion that it's the best investment you'll ever know, No,

2208
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 9: it's the worst investment you'll ever own. But you gotta

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Speaker 9: have one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have a place to live. And it's

2211
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: nice at the end of the day, whenever that day

2212
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 1: is at least you got some equity to show for it.

2213
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: You may have been break even all along. You bought

2214
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: the house, you put all kinds of money and effort

2215
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: into it, you sell it. Maybe it's a wash, but

2216
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: at least a wash is better than just a hole

2217
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: you dug with yourself for rent over those years.

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Speaker 9: Couldn't agree more? Don't You don't necessarily that starter home

2219
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 9: concept I think has changed a little bit. It's all

2220
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 9: right if you're going to get into your late twenties

2221
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 9: even early thirties before you figure out exactly the spot,

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01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 9: that is not a bad thing.

2223
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Speaker 1: All right. One more with Brian James. Got a question

2224
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: for him, what is this deal with the ten percent

2225
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: cap on credit cards? And also speaking of housing, Trump

2226
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: endeavoring to prevent commercial acquisition of housing, private housing for

2227
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: the purpose of rentals, and that seems to only sort

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01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 1: of exacerbate what we were just talking about. But that's

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Speaker 1: what we have Brian James for One more with Brian James,

2230
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Speaker 1: Stick around Freedom Ay twenty nine fifty five KRCD talk

2231
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Speaker 1: station Happy Monday doing Money Buck Monday with Brian James.

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Speaker 1: Brian James, this one's got me a little bit torn.

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Speaker 13: I am.

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Speaker 1: I regularly describe myself as a little l libertary, in

2235
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 1: other words, not a capital little party libertarian. Just I

2236
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 1: believe in free markets. I don't believe in government intervention

2237
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: with markets or the way we run our businesses. I

2238
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: think businesses can decide on their own. So it struck

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02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 1: me as rather odd because I always kind of thought

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Speaker 1: Trump might have been that kind of guy, but then

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02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: he would come out and embrace something that sounds like

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02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: it was a Democrat platform position, which is capping the

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02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: credit card company's interest rate charge. Now, I think we

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02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: can all agree thirty percent sounds userous, that's outrageous. But

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02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 1: is there a reason that the interest rate might be

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02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty percent? And I think the answer is

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02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 1: probably yeah, because the credit card companies have to eat

2248
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: fraud wasted abuse. I mean, our individual liability is capped

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02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 1: at fifty bucks. If someone steals our card, uses our

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Speaker 1: number or whatever, we let the credit card company know.

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02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: They go and try to unring that bell, but we

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02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 1: don't have to pay more out of pocket. Than fifty bucks.

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02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to eat it. That's the credit card company, right,

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02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 1: is that one of the reasons.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I would say that fifty bucks is rarely

2256
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Speaker 9: even applied to most of the time, they just eat it. Yeah,

2257
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 9: so yeah, there's a reason for that. I mean, I

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02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 9: don't know. I think a little differently about this. I

2259
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 9: feel like over the decades, the pendulum swings back and

2260
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 9: forth because if businesses are allowed to operate unbridled and

2261
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 9: completely unregulated, well they're going to look under absolutely every

2262
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 9: stone for profit and they will get to a point.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 9: That's why that's currently the current structure, is why your

2265
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 9: mailbox is full of credit card applications every single day,

2266
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 9: every other day from the exact same company, because they're

2267
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:50,440
Speaker 9: simply looking for people to take out more debt and

2268
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 9: they're just hoping that you go one day, one minute

2269
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 9: beyond that zero percent balance transfer period, because that's when

2270
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 9: you start to pay that twenty seven to twenty eight

2271
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 9: percent all the way back to day one. So you know,

2272
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,960
Speaker 9: the rest of us who are on top of things

2273
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 9: are benefiting from the fact that credit card companies are

2274
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 9: making money off of people who just aren't as on

2275
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 9: top and are letting those things get out of control.

2276
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 9: So on one go, I go both ways with it.

2277
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 9: I mean, it's wonderful to have these rewards, and it's

2278
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 9: great to play the credit card game, and I do

2279
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 9: it myself. I don't pay any interest. But at the

2280
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 9: same time, I know that I'm not the one that

2281
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 9: they're making a ton of money off of. It's the

2282
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 9: people who forget and the people who just rely on

2283
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 9: that to pay their bills. And that's societally, that is

2284
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,000
Speaker 9: not a great thing. That's not going to lead us

2285
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,880
Speaker 9: to a great conclusion. But at the same time, it's

2286
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 9: all about supplying demand. If the demand is, yes, sure,

2287
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 9: I want to have a bunch of debt and I'm

2288
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Speaker 9: willing to blindly pay thirty percent, then so be it.

2289
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 9: That's kind of the situation that we're currently in. As

2290
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 9: to why Trump is pushing this now, my best guess

2291
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 9: is it's a way to get the attention of a

2292
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 9: lot of people who who would have painted him a

2293
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 9: certain way. You're right, this is you know, maybe he's

2294
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 9: dipping into a crowd that he hasn't been able to

2295
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 9: reach before.

2296
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Speaker 1: Populist. Well, the other thing, the other component of this

2297
02:02:57,760 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: is if you cap the interest rate that the credit

2298
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: card companies can charge, the likelihood that those least likely

2299
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: to obtain credit will no longer be able to obtain

2300
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 1: credit increases dramatically. So to the extent he's trying to help,

2301
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, folks that might need credit, he's not doing

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02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 1: them any service if that actually, if this actually comes

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02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 1: to fruition, right.

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Speaker 9: Right, But that's not the headline. He's after the headline. No, No, well,

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02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 9: come on, Brian, I know that we're not worried about

2306
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 9: what happens six months a year later. That's that's unimportant

2307
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 9: at the time. And besides, then he can change the

2308
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 9: rules and then make the headline again. So but no,

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02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 9: you're exactly right if we're going to make it, if

2310
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Speaker 9: we're going to restrict the ability for these let mean,

2311
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 9: let's face it, Brian, we are the United States of

2312
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:37,080
Speaker 9: profit margin. That's it, that's all we care about. So

2313
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 9: if we're going to restrict the ability for credit card

2314
02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 9: companies to make profit, they're going to restrict the expenses

2315
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 9: they have to lay out. That means goodbye rewards programs,

2316
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 9: goodbye to a lot of things that a lot of

2317
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 9: people benefit from. And those were already on the chopping

2318
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 9: block anyway for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, And it seems to be the more

2320
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: opportunities for credit from different sources. That's competition among the

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02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: credit companies, which would necessarily suggest that they can make

2322
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 1: the choice to lower the ins in order to get

2323
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: more people on their card as opposed to somebody else's.

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Speaker 9: Oh sure, but there's no demand for that because you know,

2325
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Speaker 9: if you're somebody who really you know, if you're really

2326
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 9: really paying attention, then you're not going to care that

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Speaker 9: this one's only going to charge me up to twenty percent.

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Speaker 9: You're not gonna touch that one either. You're gonna find

2329
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 9: a different way too, if you're willing to do the research.

2330
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Speaker 9: These things are not hard to avoid, but they're banking

2331
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 9: on the fact that no pun intended that that people

2332
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 9: are paid don't pay attention, and unfortunately, in a lot

2333
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 9: of cases, that's exactly what happens.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I got to use this as an

2335
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to complain about how your credit score is calculated.

2336
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 1: You know, I at one point had a perfect credit

2337
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 1: credit score, and I'm not bragging about this, I'm just

2338
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Speaker 1: using it as illustration and event my frustrations. The only

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Speaker 1: reason it isn't is because I don't have enough credit

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Speaker 1: cards open. That pisses me off, Brian James. I don't

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Speaker 1: need more credit. I got enough with what I have.

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Speaker 1: And yet if I'm looking at a credit score go

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Speaker 1: out and get more credit. That's screwed up, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 9: It is, and it focuses on the wrong things.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 9: So you here's what's important with this. It's your payment history.

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Speaker 9: This is for the fight O model. This is the

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Speaker 9: most widely used one. There's a lot of different models

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Speaker 9: out there. Your payment history. Don't scri up your payments.

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Speaker 9: That's about thirty five percent of it. About thirty percent,

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Speaker 9: so close to a third. And this is what you're

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Speaker 9: talking about, Brian Thomas, is the amounts owed versus your

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Speaker 9: credit utilization. So what you might notice is that and

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Speaker 9: I saw this. We bought a so early in COVID.

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Speaker 9: We were going to take the family trip, our Griswold

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Speaker 9: family European vacation. COVID killed it. That turned into a

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Speaker 9: hot tub. Opened a credit card with Watson's because they

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Speaker 9: had a zero percent deal going on. My credit score

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Speaker 9: went through the roof because I had more that my

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Speaker 9: ceiling went up. I took out actual debt, I took

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Speaker 9: the draw on it, we paid the nothing percent, and

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Speaker 9: my credit score went up because of it. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: that what you're talking about about a third of your

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Speaker 9: score is related to how much of your credit you use,

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Speaker 9: Meaning you have to have credit, but then don't use

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Speaker 9: too much of it, so you can have the same

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Speaker 9: amount of debt. But if you if you increase that

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Speaker 9: limit by opening another card, your credit score, believe it

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Speaker 9: or not, it's probably gonna go up.

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Speaker 1: Well, they understand that I pay my bills on time,

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Speaker 1: I never carry a balance forward, so I've got the

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Speaker 1: same amount of credit, and I will say I think

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Speaker 1: it's adequate. Yeah, yeah, even paid off. I mean what what?

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Speaker 1: Why am I a bad guy for that? I just

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This just screams injustice. So what you should do?

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Speaker 9: Go out and open another credit card. It'll bounce the

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Speaker 9: other way. Play the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing the game, Ryan James. I'm not playing

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Speaker 1: that game. Besides, I've taken your advice and device of

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Speaker 1: so many other people who are prudent in matters financial

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Speaker 1: and frozen my credit limits or my credit with TransUnion

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Speaker 1: and Experience and all that so no one can open

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Speaker 1: credit in my name.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, including you.

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Speaker 1: That's right, including me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: These aren't bad things. Those are good things. Here's the

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Speaker 9: biggest thing I would say, go through. Clean up the

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Speaker 9: old credit cards from the stores you never use or

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Speaker 9: and those you can close. Don't even if you don't

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Speaker 9: use it anymore, though, don't.

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Speaker 12: Don't.

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Speaker 9: Don't close your your oldest credit line. Put something on it,

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Speaker 9: put the ten dollars streaming account on it, and let

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Speaker 9: it pay itself automatically. That is a big chunk of

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Speaker 9: your gore.

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 9: But also, you know, just make sure you've got enough

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Speaker 9: credit access ability out there, and then that'll keep your

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Speaker 9: scoring a good place.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, and very briefly, since we're out of time,

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Speaker 1: I just got to ask you. This Donald Trump decree

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Speaker 1: or populist gesture again seems inconsistent with free markets. But

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Speaker 1: telling like the black Rocks of the world that they

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Speaker 1: can't hoover up houses and tournamental rental units. That isn't

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Speaker 1: going to solve the housing problem by stopping that from happening,

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think what he's trying to do

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Speaker 9: is reduce to man. And again this could also just

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Speaker 9: be headline generating. He's not pushing it that hard. He

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Speaker 9: made a few comments about it, and there was an

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Speaker 9: executive order out there, but I haven't heard that any

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Speaker 9: of these major financing companies are going under because of it.

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Speaker 9: There was restricting activities to it to enable large institutional

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Speaker 9: investors from purchasing single family homes framed as prioritizing families,

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Speaker 9: but not Wall Street. So we'll see if this really

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Speaker 9: truly has an impact. But I have a feeling right

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Speaker 9: now it's just window dressing.

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Speaker 1: Brian James, thank you all with Financial, your employer for

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Speaker 1: lounning out every Monday. I appreciate the segment, the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to speak with you about matters money. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next Monday, and good luck shovel that driveway hopefully

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Speaker 1: you don't have to do it again for a while.

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Speaker 1: And stay warm, Brian James.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna head out and get that final three

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Speaker 9: inches off the driveway. Stay warm as well.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Is that what she said? Joe A

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Speaker 1: fifty five Cars Morning Show. I always enjoy that segment

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Speaker 1: audio get your iHeartMedia app over at fifty five kr

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Speaker 1: Smitheman event from this morning planting the seeds of hate,

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Speaker 1: which of course relates to the Minneapolis shooting over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look good for ICE on that one. But you know,

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Speaker 1: all this springs from this faux outrage. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: more I contemplate this, especially given the fairly recent history

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Speaker 1: in our country, the more I realize this is just

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Speaker 1: all a bunch of nonsense designed to undermine the United States.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got a friend of mine who is

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Speaker 1: in SIOP military SIOP, and he has analyzed this in

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Speaker 1: depth many many times, and he's got some great observation.

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Speaker 1: This isn't spontaneous outrage. It's command and control. They've got

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Speaker 1: all these you know, elements in place signal groups that

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Speaker 1: have one thousand member caps per zone with dedicated people

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Speaker 1: like mobile chasers. They're assigned activity plate checkers, logging vehicle

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Speaker 1: data into shared data databases, dispatch nodes, vectoring assets, daily

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Speaker 1: chat rotations. It's a well oiled machine and then automatic

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Speaker 1: with rules and instructions on when to delete communications among

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Speaker 1: the groups so the Feds can't gather evidence in the

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Speaker 1: aftermath to the extent they find criminal activity involving this.

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Speaker 1: It's one of his agent kind of guys that one

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Speaker 1: of the most sobering part is domestic. It's funded, trained

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Speaker 1: by some body, he directed by people who live in

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Speaker 1: the same country they're trying to paralyze law enforcement in

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Speaker 1: When your own citizens build and operate this level of

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Speaker 1: parallel intelligence and rapid response network against federal officers, complete

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Speaker 1: with dosing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that's already turned lethal,

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Speaker 1: you're no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You're facing a

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Speaker 1: distributed resistance that's learned the lessons of successful insurgencies. Stay

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Speaker 1: below the kinetic threshold most of the time. Force overreaction

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Speaker 1: when possible. Maintain popular support through narrative, especially in a

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Speaker 1: narrative that is supported by the mainstream media that are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of leftists and never present a single center

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Speaker 1: of gravity. Keep people back on their heels, which maybe

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Speaker 1: leads to my point, what in the hell is some

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Speaker 1: people protesting ice? Let us turn back the most recent

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Speaker 1: history pages. Here, we'll go back to August twenty nineth,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Donald Trump not yet been elected. He's on

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Speaker 1: the campaign trail. Barack Obama's still in office. What was

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Speaker 1: he doing. He was announcing his strategy. He was trying

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Speaker 1: to get voters. Tonald Trump was in. One of the

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Speaker 1: things he wanted to talk about was immigration, and back

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, he said, on day one, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to begin swiftly removing criminal, illegal immigrants from this country. Huh.

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Speaker 1: At that point in time, on the twenty ninth and August,

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Speaker 1: he did not give any specifics about the immigration policy,

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Speaker 1: but it unfolded and it's exactly like what he's doing now.

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Speaker 1: Plans to remove the undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes,

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Speaker 1: which lo and behold. The reporting by ABC News is

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Speaker 1: where I'm reading this. So to the stent you think

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Speaker 1: this is something I pulled off of some right wing

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Speaker 1: conservative sites, you got it wrong. It's ABC. Trump's plan

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Speaker 1: to remove the undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes is

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Speaker 1: similar to what President Obama declared in twenty fourteen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the numbers. President Obama has often been

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Speaker 1: referred to by immigration groups as the deporter in chief.

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Speaker 1: That's immigration groups who want immigrations, the immigrants to come

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Speaker 1: into our country. They weren't real happy with Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: those groups. Between twenty nine and twenty fifteen, Obama removed

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Speaker 1: more than two point five million people through immigration orders.

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Speaker 1: That number does not include those who self deported or

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Speaker 1: turned away and or returned to their home country at

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Speaker 1: the border by US Customs and Border Protection. It also

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Speaker 1: doesn't include the calendar year numbers before the November election.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember Trump wasn't sworn in until January twentieth

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, so Obama had one more full year

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Speaker 1: of deportations. And I've read numbers as high as four

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Speaker 1: million out of the Obama administration, accordinill government data. The

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Speaker 1: again ABC reporting of government data says the Obama administration

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Speaker 1: deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

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Speaker 1: And listen to this. In fact, the Obama administration has

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Speaker 1: deported more than the sum of all the presidents of

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Speaker 1: the twentieth century. They say, Hey, George W. Bush only

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Speaker 1: deported two million during his time in office, So bully

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Speaker 1: for Barack Obama making good on his campaign pledge making

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Speaker 1: good on his promise in twenty fourteen to kick the

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Speaker 1: hell out of our country the criminal illegal immigrants. And

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Speaker 1: he made good on that. So wherever the protesters and

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Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned that figured to Christopher Smithing or

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Speaker 1: in the morning and he recalled it. Yeah, people got

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Speaker 1: killed the same thing like that guy on Saturday. Huh

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Speaker 1: where were they then? Something terrible as afoot in this country,

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Speaker 1: my friends, I hope we all get wise to it.

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Speaker 1: Eighty forty six. Feel free to get me a call

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Speaker 1: if we got a comment. Five on three seven four

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Speaker 1: if you got a comment, maybe you want to say

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Speaker 1: something about immigration or something like that. Five one three,

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Speaker 1: phones and uh, yes, the roads are bad, so try

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Speaker 1: to stay off them at all possible. Again, that level

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Speaker 1: three most snow emergency means you're not allowed, I guess,

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Speaker 1: lawfully to even be out there unless you're on an

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Speaker 1: emergency or not. But they're gonna have to pull you

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Speaker 1: over to find that out, and it's unlikely they will that.

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Speaker 1: According to Ken Cober, FOP president, who was on the

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Speaker 1: show earlier this morning, it was also please please begging

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Speaker 1: you to stay off the roads if possible. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I continue with Obama. I read his comments about the

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Speaker 1: shooting over the weekend, yesterd or just this morning, and

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Speaker 1: it's just it's so batcrap insane, particularly given the background

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Speaker 1: it just gave you, which is Obama deported everybody and

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Speaker 1: there were no violent protests in the streets. Eric suggests

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the beginning of a total insurrection.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. He said every American should support and

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Speaker 1: draw inspiration from the wave of peaceful protests in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Yet one more politician of note kind of saying the

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Speaker 1: protests are the right thing to do, or it's suggesting

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Speaker 1: perhaps interference, because those who have been watching the protests

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Speaker 1: on the street recognize that there is a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot of interference with ICE. It's not protest, they're interfering.

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Speaker 1: I support the right to protest like everybody else. I

2552
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Speaker 1: appreciate the First Amendment. Hey, free assembly, free speech owners

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Speaker 1: that free exercises is first. But yeah, and I got

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Speaker 1: no problem with you filming somebody. Matter of fact, I've

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Speaker 1: been saying I'm glad the budget if it ever gets passed,

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Speaker 1: which right now it doesn't look like it's going to

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Speaker 1: get passed because oh, evil Ice, and now they're gonna

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Speaker 1: end up shutting shutting down the federal government in the

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Speaker 1: name of defunding ICE. I guess the defund the police

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Speaker 1: is just mutated into defunding ICE. Well, it's something to protest,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Because evil Orange man is in office, said

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Speaker 1: the killing of Alex Pretty is heartbreaking tragedy. It should

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Speaker 1: also be a wake up call to every American, regardless

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Speaker 1: of party, that many of our core values as a

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Speaker 1: nation are increasingly under assault. Well, when he was president,

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Speaker 1: it was a core value to kick the hell out

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Speaker 1: of our country criminal illegal immigrants gassed him back in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. When he was doing it, do

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Speaker 1: you think he would embrace the idea that that's a

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Speaker 1: core value. Of course, protecting the American public from evil

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02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:40,120
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants who are demonstrably dangerous is a great thing.

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Speaker 1: It's good for America. I'm trying to protect the American citizens.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty twenty six, he said federal law

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Speaker 1: enforcement and immigration agents have a tough job, but Americans

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Speaker 1: expect them to carry out their duties in a lawful,

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Speaker 1: accountable way. True. I don't think anybody is suggesting anything

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Speaker 1: to the contrary, and to work with, rather than against,

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Speaker 1: state and local officials to ensure public safety. Who's that

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Speaker 1: comment directed at the people interfere with ICE? All I

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Speaker 1: know is the governor, the mayor in Minneapolis and the

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Speaker 1: governor of Minnesota have been directing people, instructing people to

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Speaker 1: get the hell out in the streets and protest, and

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02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 1: actually egging them on to engage in violence. That's state

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Speaker 1: and local officials who aren't officials who are not cooperating

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Speaker 1: with their federal counterparts. Barack Obama doesn't speak to that anyway.

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Speaker 1: For weeks now, people across this country have been rightly

2587
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Speaker 1: outraged by the spectacle of masked ICE recruits and other

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02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:47,360
Speaker 1: federal agents acting with impunity and engaging in tactics that

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Speaker 1: seem designed to intimidate, harass, provoke, and endanger the residents

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Speaker 1: of major American cities. Yeah, and all the protesters on

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02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 1: the streets engaging literally in tactics that they are designed

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Speaker 1: to intimidate, harass, and provoke the ice agent, putting them

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02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:02,680
Speaker 1: in a perilous position having to go out and do

2594
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Speaker 1: their job enforcing federal law and going after the evilist

2595
02:18:06,280 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 1: of evil once an agenda point for Obama, while surrounded

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Speaker 1: by people screaming them, egging them on, throwing things at them,

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Speaker 1: blowing whistles in their face, standing in front of their vehicles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that creates a tense environment, and it might cause one

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Speaker 1: of them to do something stupid, like maybe recklessly use

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Speaker 1: deadly force. Let's see what Jones got this morning. Joe,

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Speaker 1: thank you for Joan, thank you for calling it. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: Hi Brian and your other mother.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey Joan, how are you mom? Mom, don't get

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Speaker 1: jealous out there, I jokingly refer to Jones. She goes

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Speaker 1: to listener lunch all the time, and she reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of you, Mom. But she's not my real mom.

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Speaker 1: She's my secondary mom. Go ahead, Joan, I'm a yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, I was just going to comment on that

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Speaker 7: credit score through Oh yeah, go ahead. I've got to

2612
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Speaker 7: notice that my credit drop and I thought, what the heck?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 11: So I go in this.

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Speaker 7: Asperien or whatever however it's called, because my credit's frozen.

2616
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Speaker 7: I have it frozen. So I go in and it

2617
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Speaker 7: went down three points to eight oh five because I

2618
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Speaker 7: don't use my caal's credit card. Enough, well, I use

2619
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:22,240
Speaker 7: my call's credit card. If I want to go shopping

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Speaker 7: for something.

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Speaker 1: That coals I know, probably not.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad it was explained this morning as to why

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Speaker 7: my credits of course dropped so much.

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Speaker 12: You know, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I think we can all collectively agree, regardless of political

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Speaker 1: affiliation or stripe, the credit score sucks and the criteria

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Speaker 1: that make it up are well. Barber Streiss said, I'll

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Speaker 1: put it loosely like that. Love you, Joan, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much forgiving me a call this morning. Folks will

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Speaker 1: be have a