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Speaker 1: Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred WLW all right.

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Speaker 2: Off and running in here we go on this Chile

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Speaker 2: and still somewhat blustery Saturday. I would like to find

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Speaker 2: that groundhog that popped its head out earlier this week

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Speaker 2: and say, dude, what the hell are you thinking? Because

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Speaker 2: we're about over all of this. Nevertheless, we can't control that.

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Speaker 2: We press on with things that we can. And if

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Speaker 2: you're paying attention to what's going in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: These days, and you should be, you know that there

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Speaker 2: are a number of things in play, not the least

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Speaker 2: of which is that there are an inordinate number of

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Speaker 2: people that hold office, both in the House and in

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Speaker 2: the Senate, that will not be running later this year,

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. And already we know that the

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Speaker 2: predictions are out there that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a quote unquote blood bath for the GOP. That's the prediction.

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Speaker 2: It's always a bad midd elections, Michael. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to the party in power, the party in power always

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Speaker 2: loses seats with rare exception, but now even more so

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Speaker 2: with it seems as though little to connect what Trump

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Speaker 2: is doing economically between Wall Street and Main Street. Although

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Speaker 2: we hear big promises about twenty twenty six with all

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Speaker 2: that's going on internationally right now, and there are some

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Speaker 2: big wins that this administration has indeed come up with.

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Speaker 2: Even with some polling data that shows that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: his popularity is growing, there are also a lot that

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Speaker 2: show that his popularity is taking a hit. We now

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Speaker 2: have the factor that a lot of these people that

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Speaker 2: are around that hold currently hold seats that the GOP have,

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Speaker 2: they're thinking about cashing it in, taking it back to

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Speaker 2: the ranch. So will it be a quote unquote bloodbath

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Speaker 2: in November? And if it is, is there anything that

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Speaker 2: the Republicans can do at this point to prevent it

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Speaker 2: from happening? And if you're a Democrat, is there anything

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Speaker 2: you do that could blow it at this point? Standing

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Speaker 2: by the way in I always love leading off the

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Speaker 2: show with this man. He's one of the foremost political

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Speaker 2: minds of our time. You can read him on a

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Speaker 2: constant basis, among other places in real clear politics, but

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Speaker 2: he's so much more than that. And it's a great

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Speaker 2: show when we can have Kennon Spivak on with us,

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Speaker 2: and what do you know here? He is Kennan, how

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Speaker 2: are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I'm great as always, a legend in my own mind.

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Speaker 2: Now you're a legend in a lot of people's minds.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've got the count here at twelve Senators and

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Speaker 2: fifty one folks in the House that are not running

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Speaker 2: for re election. Thirteen Dems in the House, eleven in

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Speaker 2: the GOP are running for a higher office. But most

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Speaker 2: of these people are taking it to the House Senate

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Speaker 2: as well, with the exception of people like Amy Klobashar,

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Speaker 2: who's going to run for governor in Minnesota. Is it

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Speaker 2: in your mind right now, this far away from November,

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Speaker 2: are staring at an absolute takeover by the Democrats in

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Speaker 2: the House and in the Senate.

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Speaker 3: In the House, probably yes. In the Senate, probably know,

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Speaker 3: but those are both probably. I think the loss in

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Speaker 3: the Senate is more likely than reversing the loss in

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Speaker 3: the House. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in the House, I forget the election day. It's

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Speaker 2: the first Tuesday in November, whatever date that may be.

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Speaker 2: As of the first day when that new Congress is

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Speaker 2: seated in January, you know what the first order of

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Speaker 2: business is going to be. They're going to impeach Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to do anything else. They're desperate to

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Speaker 2: impeach anybody Trump, Christy Nome, Pete Haigseth. They're going after Trump,

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Speaker 2: and for all intents and purposes, the business of this

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Speaker 2: country will be brought to a halt once again for

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Speaker 2: several months while the Dems do their dance that will

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Speaker 2: have no chance of passing conviction in the Senate. That's

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Speaker 2: what's coming, right, think it is.

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Speaker 3: And I think as much as this administration has so

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Speaker 3: many accomplishments to point to, this eventuality really is also

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Speaker 3: its fault. It gets credit for what it's done right,

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Speaker 3: but it's got to be criticized for what it's done wrong.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it can still turn it around. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know if Donald Trump has it within him to

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Speaker 2: Do you think Donald Trump cares? I'm sure he cares,

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Speaker 2: because everything in politics, I mean, all these people doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter whether they're Democrats or Republicans, doesn't matter what office

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Speaker 2: it almost becomes the same side show, and it keeps

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he does. I don't think he cares

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Speaker 3: even some of the other narcissists who have been president

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Speaker 3: about leaving a legacy, all of this construction. He's doing,

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Speaker 3: this renaming of things after him, wanting to always say

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Speaker 3: first time it's ever happened. I think he does care,

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Speaker 3: and I think he is really facing a risk of

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Speaker 3: being a two year president and really less than that,

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Speaker 3: because three or four months before the election, not much

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Speaker 3: can rule by executive order, not really, and certainly not

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Speaker 3: really when Congress is not supporting him and doesn't have

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Speaker 2: It's exactly right. And I think one of the great

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Speaker 2: an extension of Mitch McConnell, and any extension of Mitch

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Speaker 2: McConnell is something that should concern everybody if they're in

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party. But Thune could have helped him a

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Speaker 2: lot more, particularly with these blue slip things that just

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Speaker 2: are absolutely ridiculous when you're trying to get judges seated

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Speaker 2: also think the silent filibuster could have gone, because those

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Speaker 2: are two things. Certainly the silent filibuster that's gone the

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Speaker 2: minute the Dems get control everything that these country club

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Speaker 2: of country club Republicans in the Senate. Everything that they say, no,

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Speaker 2: we would never do that, that's not right. Guarantee in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a problem. Conservatives are conservative. They don't want

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Speaker 3: it's because they're not bound by traditions. Now, in the

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Speaker 3: that purpose there might be enough traditionalists even among the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: But the rest of it absolutely Then they're going to

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Speaker 3: They're going to start repealing or overriding anything that Trump's

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Speaker 3: done by executive order. I mean, one of the things,

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Speaker 3: and we all know this. I don't claim to be

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Speaker 3: This is not legislation, but the Kennedy Trump Center will

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Speaker 3: We are looking at a catastrophe, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if Trump could reverse it, even if he were emotionally

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again he has little help with his own party.

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Speaker 2: I say this all the time. Every Democrat in Washington

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Speaker 2: And therein lies the problem with Trump. A lot of

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Speaker 2: these Republicans run scared. Some of them are leaving office,

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Speaker 2: and that's a good thing, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: that that's going to be a problem defending in November. Now.

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Speaker 2: One thing I think, and you and I I exchanged

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Speaker 2: text messages with you a couple of days ago. One

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Speaker 2: of the things I think that Trump could do to

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Speaker 2: is to get Congress to pass the Save Act, which

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Speaker 2: is very basic. It shouldn't even have to be passed.

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Speaker 2: But it is, and that is when you show up

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Speaker 2: to vote, you have to have a legal ID. And

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Speaker 2: And for some reason, I don't know why that legislation

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Speaker 2: hasn't been at least taken up. It's an eighty twenty

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Speaker 2: of the true idiots in Congress, claims it would violate

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Speaker 2: women's rights and all that, which is sheer nonsense. But

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Speaker 2: why hasn't that been taken up long before? Now?

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Speaker 3: First of all, seventy six percent of blacks also favor

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Speaker 3: it's common sense and this notion that which really is

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Speaker 3: I mean, just rubbish. The Democrats are pursuing this in

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Speaker 3: an effort to facilitate illegals voting to preserve power. Why

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Speaker 3: hasn't this passed in the Senate. It hasn't passed in

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Speaker 3: the Senate. And until you know, this has been voted

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Speaker 3: The last time four Democrats voted for it, but the

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Speaker 3: In the Senate, they can't get past the filibuster to

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Speaker 3: why won't democrats vote for something that Democrats favor? Because

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Speaker 3: the Democrat leadership, first of all, sees this as an

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Speaker 3: important means for illegals to vote, which they consider important

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Speaker 3: to their enduring control. Second, because as part of the resistance,

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Speaker 3: this administration want I mean, really going back to something

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Speaker 3: I said before, from a policy point of view, I

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Speaker 3: this administration has been remarkable. It's from a narrative point

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Speaker 3: of view, it's from a trying to appeal beyond the

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Speaker 3: base point of view in terms of verbiage that this

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Speaker 3: position it's now in going into the mid terms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, not because policies, no, no, and it will

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Speaker 2: never get. This particular administration will never get credit from

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Speaker 2: the media for the things that it does right or

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Speaker 2: it does better. It's always why not this? Why not that?

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Speaker 2: What were you thinking here when they gave the you know,

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Speaker 2: I got about thirty seconds Kenny Ken this administration, because

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Two things they should listen to you. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: Great talking to you, my friend, and you know we

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Speaker 3: Thanks a great day.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was just if a mistake shouldn't take twelve hours

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Speaker 2: in spite of themselves. This too, shell pass. But November

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Speaker 8: all your all, everything you've done at that moment, just

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Speaker 8: let it flow and get into what we call.

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Speaker 4: The flow state in sports.

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Speaker 2: So flying down this mountain at I mean, I don't

437
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Speaker 2: know how fast they're going. I mean, the guy that

438
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Speaker 2: won today one minute fifty one points sixty one seconds,

439
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Speaker 2: which is pretty danged fast. It's no different really than

440
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Speaker 2: a golfer with a golf swing or a basketball player

441
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Speaker 2: at the free throw line, even though these are completely

442
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Speaker 2: different examples. But it's all about how you train. You

443
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Speaker 2: start thinking. For example, in golf, I know this. You

444
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Speaker 2: start thinking, and chances are your entire game falls apart.

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Speaker 2: Same thing, right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 8: I mean the hardest course to master is the one

447
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Speaker 8: that's six inches the space between your ears. Once you

448
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Speaker 8: master that, you can accel at your sport. But until

449
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Speaker 8: you master your mind in calmer senses, you know, like

450
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Speaker 8: people will say, whether it's a golf swing or free

451
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Speaker 8: throw or going downhill, everything disappears but that moment. So

452
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Speaker 8: you're in that moment and you're allowing your body to

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Speaker 8: do what the body has been trained to do. You've

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Speaker 8: rehearse your whole life to do, and you just let

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Speaker 8: it fly.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so that sounds easy, Doc, And I'm sure

457
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Speaker 2: it's more intricate when you get into the actual training

458
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Speaker 2: of the mind process. But I mean, here's Lindsey Vaughn,

459
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Speaker 2: who's blown out her knees about as many times as

460
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Speaker 2: I've changed socks. She just blew her knee out last

461
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Speaker 2: week and she's back out their skiing. So forget about

462
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Speaker 2: the physical nature of having to do that. The mental

463
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Speaker 2: nature of having to block out all of these injuries

464
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Speaker 2: that she survived. How does an athlete do that?

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Speaker 8: Well, there's some processes we teach. When I worked with

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Speaker 8: the gymnasts, the US gymnast team back a few Olympians

467
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Speaker 8: to go. What we found was the athletes were all

468
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Speaker 8: pretty much the same, but the ones that could overcome injury,

469
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Speaker 8: those are the ones that made it into the Olympics

470
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Speaker 8: and succeeded, because sooner or later you're going to blow

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Speaker 8: something out and unless you're just so lucky, I mean,

472
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Speaker 8: when you're moving at ninety miles an hour downhill or more.

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Speaker 8: Maybe this guy was going in faster than that, what

474
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Speaker 8: happens is that you have to basically compartmentalize that you

475
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Speaker 8: have to believe in your just like a race car

476
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Speaker 8: driver has to believe this pit crew, you know, like

477
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Speaker 8: tightened up the bolts on the wheels, you know, put

478
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Speaker 8: enough gas in the tank, everything, and you have to

479
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Speaker 8: trust your machine. And for these athletes, their machine is

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Speaker 8: their body. They've been training for this for four years maybe,

481
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Speaker 8: and for her for twenty years or maybe even you know,

482
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Speaker 8: thirty years or whatever when she started getting on the slope,

483
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Speaker 8: so her body knows what to do. But if she

484
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Speaker 8: lets that thought of an injury come into her awareness,

485
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Speaker 8: then her body is going to start predicting the future

486
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Speaker 8: differently because they're moving so fast. You know, when we

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Speaker 8: measured Danika Patrick's brain, she had the fastest brain speed

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Speaker 8: that I'd ever clocked. Because she's moving like those cars

489
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Speaker 8: are going two hundred miles an hour to hundred twenty

490
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Speaker 8: miles an hour. Our brain can't process that information. So

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Speaker 8: ninety miles an hour on skis or you know, or

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Speaker 8: even shooting a basketball in front of one hundred thousand

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Speaker 8: people on television or a million people. You know, you

494
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Speaker 8: think of a shack. He couldn't make a free throw

495
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Speaker 8: to save his life, you know. So and his daughter

496
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Speaker 8: now works with brain taps, so she's on brain tap

497
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Speaker 8: sports because and she's great at those free throws because

498
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Speaker 8: she mentally rehearses it. Your body doesn't know the difference

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Speaker 8: between real or imagined, so they can put all that aside,

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Speaker 8: focus on the task at hand, and turn it over

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Speaker 8: to their subconscious and it does.

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Speaker 2: The work well. So Lindsey Vaughan, as you said, has

503
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Speaker 2: been at this for probably thirty five years, so she know,

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Speaker 2: probably when she was old enough to get on a

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Speaker 2: pair of skis, which I'm guessing is six seven years old,

506
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Speaker 2: so pretty close to that. I'm just wondering. The physical

507
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Speaker 2: training for this is probably three sixty five every single year,

508
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Speaker 2: But what about the mental training, Because you can peak

509
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Speaker 2: too soon physically, can you peak too soon mentally? In

510
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Speaker 2: other words, would she or the guy that won the

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Speaker 2: gold today in the downhill, would they be going through

512
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Speaker 2: these kind of mental exercises or training mentally right along

513
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Speaker 2: with their physical training, or is there a chance that

514
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Speaker 2: maybe you just get a little too not to use

515
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Speaker 2: a pun, a little too ahead of your skis, and

516
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you've been at it so long,

517
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Speaker 2: some of these things just start to turn into white noise.

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Speaker 8: Yes, will they need champion tell you it's it's not

519
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Speaker 8: what you do occasionally, it's what you do daily. So

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Speaker 8: they practiced this daily. They might even practice it more

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Speaker 8: than once a day. You know, when you watch those

522
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Speaker 8: skiers before they go downhill, they're going through that run

523
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Speaker 8: in their mind, and the more they can predict that future,

524
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Speaker 8: the better their brain kind of almost like grooves in

525
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Speaker 8: a record. For those that remember records, you know, you

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Speaker 8: put the needle on the record, it runs its place.

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Speaker 8: But if they get if they get a hiccup somewhere,

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Speaker 8: or they start thinking about what's ahead, they have to

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Speaker 8: stay in that moment, you know, when they talk about

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Speaker 8: that part of the race where it's like an ice

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Speaker 8: skating rink. They can't think about it being an ice

532
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Speaker 8: skating rink. That's they have to think about it like

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Speaker 8: my I can my body's balanced, I can move through this,

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Speaker 8: I can move through the experience. I mean, we have

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Speaker 8: a whole series on skiing because to take somebody from

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Speaker 8: just practicing to get into those even the black diamonds.

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Speaker 8: For the average person, their fear overcomes them because they

538
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Speaker 8: start thinking too much down the track. They need to

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Speaker 8: think right in that moment, my body's doing it. And

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Speaker 8: pretty soon what happens is they begin to enjoy the

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Speaker 8: experience because they these people are adrenaline junkies, you know,

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Speaker 8: and if you pump that much adrenaline too, you and

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Speaker 8: I we'd be shaking like crazy and we wouldn't know

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Speaker 8: how to handle it. But they've trained for it mentally, physically, emotionally,

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Speaker 8: they've eaten, they're eating the right foods, they're basically by

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Speaker 8: the time they get there and the difference between a

547
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Speaker 8: champion and someone who just qualifies or someone who doesn't

548
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Speaker 8: qualify is their mindset. So are they really ready?

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Speaker 2: Are they really prepared?

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Speaker 8: So I think it's a daily thing.

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Speaker 2: Brain Tap has just launched a new exclusive ski focused

552
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Speaker 2: content series by wellness expert doctor Tom Lankering. I'm sure

553
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Speaker 2: you know this guy right, probably sit next to him,

554
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Speaker 2: office next to them anyway, not just for skiers, but

555
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Speaker 2: for snowboarders, high altitude athletes. In other words, if you're

556
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Speaker 2: going to try and maybe scale Mount Everest or whatever.

557
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Speaker 2: It's a series guide users throughout pre performance visualization, recovery techniques,

558
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Speaker 2: and mental conditioning, which I think is phenomenal. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: doctor Porter you work with gymnasts, a gymnasts. How long

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Speaker 2: ago was that and who are some of the gymnasts

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Speaker 2: you work with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not at liberty to say, because you got

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Speaker 8: to pay the Olympic Committee if I do that. But

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Speaker 8: what we do?

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Speaker 2: Can you give us initials, give us some initials, give

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Speaker 2: us some moves. Was it the horse? What were we

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Speaker 2: doing there?

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Speaker 8: Well, it was the whole thing. What we what I

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Speaker 8: worked with was recovery. So when when people get injured

570
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Speaker 8: and they all got injured because they were working at everything.

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Speaker 8: I mean, these girls put it all out. There was

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Speaker 8: an Olympia Sports camp down in La Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 8: what happened is I was living in San Francisco at

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Speaker 8: the time, so I would just go down there and

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Speaker 8: work with them. I'd teach them some techniques, and at

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Speaker 8: that time we had another piece of equipment. It wasn't

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Speaker 8: even brain caaps So that's how long ago it was.

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Speaker 8: But in the in the process of doing it, what

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Speaker 8: we found was those people that could put that like

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Speaker 8: like Vonn is doing right now, she's got to put

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Speaker 8: that aside. Whatever happened to her a week ago, that's

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Speaker 8: the past. She can't relive the past. Just like in relationships,

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Speaker 8: if we get into bad relationship and then the next

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Speaker 8: relationship we bring that old relationship in with it, that

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Speaker 8: new relationship is not going to work.

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Speaker 2: Please please, enough about enough about my doctor, enough about

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Speaker 2: my personal life. Would continue.

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Speaker 8: Well, it sounds like you do it all right, driving

589
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Speaker 8: and all that, you know, But I mean what it

590
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Speaker 8: is is these athletes will tell you that's why they

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Speaker 8: have to be. They kind of get an ego, but

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Speaker 8: they need that ego if they're going to perform at

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Speaker 8: this level, they have to believe they're the very best

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Speaker 8: of the best. They can't, you know, I'm sure when

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Speaker 8: some of these skiers see Lindsey Vonne, they go, oh

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Speaker 8: my god. They probably idolized her, watched her ski for years,

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Speaker 8: and there she is right there. They can't let that

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Speaker 8: interrupt their their experience because you're really competing against yourself.

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Speaker 8: You're not competing against anyone else, right, You're competing against

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Speaker 8: your best score, your best time, your best whatever. And

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Speaker 8: so that's the only thing you can control. In other words,

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Speaker 8: and most professional athletes, college athletes, and in those up

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Speaker 8: and coming high schoolers, they're trained that mentally. You know,

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Speaker 8: in psychology we teach you know, you're not competing against

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Speaker 8: someone else because as soon as you bring somebody else

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Speaker 8: into the experience. And now when you're talking about injuries,

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Speaker 8: if you focus on oh no, I'm getting old, the

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Speaker 8: reality is that she's probably in better shafe than most twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five year olds.

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Speaker 2: That's true because she's she's she's been.

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Speaker 4: Through it all.

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Speaker 8: She has great trainers, they have great now we have

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Speaker 8: such great technology. He gets you back on the slopes.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's so many ways that you can rebuild

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Speaker 8: your body quickly. I mean when I was in school,

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Speaker 8: it's a get getting a cold plunge, you know, getting

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Speaker 8: the ice bath, and you wish, like you know, you

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Speaker 8: wish you could recover. You block your name twenty years ago,

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Speaker 8: she wouldn't be out there scheme right now.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all, doctor Patrick Porter.

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Speaker 2: He is at brain tap just as it sounds b

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Speaker 2: r A I ntap dot com, brain tap dot com.

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Speaker 2: And they're doing wonderful and really creative edge things with

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Speaker 2: how the mind that can help the body. And it's

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Speaker 2: great having me on. I really appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 2: We'll watch and see how Lindsay Vughn does together tomorrow, Doc,

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Speaker 2: and stay well, we're going to call you down the road.

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Speaker 2: You know that, So for the rest of what's left

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Speaker 2: of this week, and enjoy it. Thank you all right,

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Speaker 2: thank you, doctor Patrick Porter. It's amazing. She's forty one.

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Speaker 2: She's still out there, and she's favoring her right knee

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Speaker 2: as you would think since the left one is blown out.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, at forty one years old and all she's

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Speaker 2: been through physically to be out there right now, and

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Speaker 2: then you blow your knee out the week before. Are

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Speaker 2: you kidding me? So there must be tremendous mental discipline

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Speaker 2: for Lindsey Vaughn. We wish her well, yeah, that'll be viewing. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we're watching that one tomorrow. It is twelve fifty six

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Speaker 2: on this Saturday. Much more to come. How to be happy,

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Speaker 2: but really how to be rich and how to be wealthy? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I got somebody that's going to put you on the

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Speaker 2: right road to that. You bet it could be a

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Speaker 1: News Radio, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think I know that guy. I think

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Speaker 2: I bumped into him once or twice. No, not the

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Speaker 2: guy with a nice voice. Maybe I have who knows?

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Speaker 2: You just do that? Those disembodied voices, you're not even

649
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Speaker 2: sure who they are. Welcome back. It's Saturday afternoons. It's

650
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Speaker 2: you and me in a moment. How you can become

651
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Speaker 2: not just rich, but wealthy? Who doesn't want to be rich?

652
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to be wealthy? We have a smattering

653
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Speaker 2: of college basketball today. We have no UC today, we

654
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: don't have Xavier today, but we do have Miami. We

655
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: do have the RedHawks, who are unbeaten. I mean, just

656
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Speaker 2: skating along here in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six,

657
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: they are twenty three and zero and they step outside

658
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Speaker 2: the conference today at four o'clock and we'll take on

659
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Speaker 2: the Marshall Thundering Herd at Marshall. This week, Travis Steel,

660
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: who has been shoved into the limelight for what his

661
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: team is accomplishing so far this season, was talking about

662
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Speaker 2: that streak, talking about going twenty three to oh to

663
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Speaker 2: start the season. Here is the old coach.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I think I think it just starts

665
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 9: with the belief in the confidence of the guys.

666
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Speaker 2: Right, they're they're unflappable.

667
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Speaker 9: Never get too high, never get too low, whether we're up,

668
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 9: whether we're down, whatever the situation is. Man, We've been

669
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Speaker 9: in every situation this year, so we can always point

670
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Speaker 9: back to those moments while we're in it, and we've

671
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 9: done this before. And I think that that belief and confidence, man,

672
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 9: is just so powerful. And I think that shows with

673
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Speaker 9: how we finish games.

674
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Speaker 2: Kind of reverts back to what we were just talking

675
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Speaker 2: about with doctor Patrick Porter. It's a belief, it's a

676
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: you visualize what's going to happen, and you know Oftentimes

677
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: it's looked at by some people in scoffed, Oh, come on,

678
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: just shoot the free throw, just catch the pass, let's

679
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Speaker 2: end the game. But no, if you have that belief that, hey,

680
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: we've been here before, you can tap into that psychologically.

681
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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of that is what goes

682
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Speaker 2: on with teams that win. I think a lot of

683
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: it has gone on with a team like New England

684
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Speaker 2: this year, which was horrible last year. I make the

685
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Speaker 2: coaching change, and now they bring Mike Rabel back and

686
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: a quarterback that looked to drift last year and didn't

687
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: know whether to sick them or come here. It's now,

688
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he has focus. Now, all of

689
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: a sudden, the team is winning. I think there's a

690
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: lot to that, I really do. I think we even

691
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: saw it this year with the Bengals in this sense

692
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Speaker 2: that when Joe Burrow was injured, that team seemed to

693
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Speaker 2: kind of lose focus. It kind of seemed to get

694
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Speaker 2: a drift. But the minute Burrow comes back, all of

695
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: a sudden snaps to attention. Now, obviously there were losses there,

696
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: the Baltimore loss, the Buffalo loss that submarined whatever chance

697
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Speaker 2: they had to go to the playoffs. But I do

698
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: think that there are a lot of things that go

699
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Speaker 2: on that subliminally work in a team's favor or to

700
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Speaker 2: its detriment, and I think that's probably something that's going

701
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Speaker 2: on with the Miami University and the RedHawks again. Four

702
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: o'clock tip today at Marshall. This is interesting. After there

703
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Speaker 2: was a lot of outcry about the way the Hall

704
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Speaker 2: of Fame voting went this year for professional football, it

705
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: sounds like they may be reverting back, at least for

706
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Speaker 2: the modern era players. They may be reverting back to

707
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Speaker 2: a more disciplined approach. The Pro Football Hall of Fame

708
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Speaker 2: is going to consider making changes to the voting panel

709
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Speaker 2: and the process. Jim Porter is the Hall of Fame president,

710
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Speaker 2: and Porter now seems less inclined to alter the rule

711
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Speaker 2: to change the grouped coaches and contributors with old time players,

712
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: which would not help Obby or would not have helped

713
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson and Bill Belichick and those people this year.

714
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Speaker 2: But it looks like the people that were on the

715
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Speaker 2: panel doing the voting and doing the leaking may be replaced.

716
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: Look like they're going into a deep dive into that.

717
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: And also it looks like that the Hall is going

718
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: to take a good hard look at not only replacing

719
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Speaker 2: those players, but also for not voting most deserving. What

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Speaker 2: happens is, and I'll give it to you in about

721
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Speaker 2: a ten to fifteen second nutshell. If you believe your

722
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: player is the player you want to get in, so

723
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Speaker 2: you not only vote for him, but if you vote

724
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Speaker 2: for two or three more, you vote for the two

725
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: or three that you don't think have a chance to

726
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Speaker 2: get in. Thereby enhancing the player that you vote for.

727
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Speaker 2: In other words, you wouldn't vote for the top three

728
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Speaker 2: that you think are most deserving. You'd vote for your

729
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Speaker 2: guy that you think should be in there, and then

730
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Speaker 2: pick two or three of the bottom feeders that you think, well,

731
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Speaker 2: nobody's going to going to vote for this guy and

732
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Speaker 2: thereby enhancing your player. And so if everybody plays that game,

733
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Speaker 2: unless of course they all vote for the say bottom feeders,

734
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Speaker 2: you're only going to get what you got this year.

735
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Speaker 2: So I guess they're looking at that, but nothing I

736
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Speaker 2: guess with regards to the way they go about picking

737
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Speaker 2: these these veteran players and coaches and contributors. So keep

738
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Speaker 2: your eye and your antenna up for that. You know,

739
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Speaker 2: iHeartMedia WLW. We're saluting our own Procter and Gamble right

740
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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati this week. And if you've got someone

741
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: out there you'd like to recognize on the air, all

742
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: you have to do is text their name to five

743
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Speaker 2: one eight eight one five one eight eight one, text

744
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Speaker 2: their name to that number and be listening, because we

745
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: just might want to honor that person, So be on

746
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Speaker 2: the lookout for that. Being rich is good, being wealthy

747
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: is better, because I know there's a book out right

748
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: now called rich is Good, Wealthy is Better, and it's

749
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Speaker 2: written by my next guest, who is a guy that

750
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: has one of the best outlooks on life than anybody

751
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: else that I know. He is doctor Willie Jolly. He

752
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: has his own show on Serious ExHAM Radio, has his

753
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: own podcast, and got this book out now that will

754
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: lead you to a road to wealth if you just

755
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: are a little disciplined at least, I think, Doctor Charley,

756
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Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a great day and I'm so glad to

758
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: be on again with my friend Kidd Brew. I'm so

759
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: honored to be all with you. Thank you for having me.

760
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Speaker 2: You know, I I love what you preach. I love

761
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: what you write. I've obviously heard you on your on

762
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: your radio show, and you know, it seems to me

763
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: that we're an easily manipulated society, right, we can have

764
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: ourselves bent in shape any way we want, and invariably

765
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: when we are like that, it hits us in the

766
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Speaker 2: word wallet. Why are we so easy to manipulate on

767
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: these things?

768
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Speaker 6: Doctor, Well, we have been positioned and really really programmed,

769
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: that's the right word. Programmed to spend. We put programmed

770
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Speaker 6: to spend. And part of that is a self esteem

771
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 6: issue that we see the commercials with people at defense

772
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: the cause, and the big homes and all the jewelry,

773
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Speaker 6: and we want to feel good about ourselves, so we

774
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 6: spend money to try and feel good about ourselves. And

775
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 6: it's a false version of security. But nevertheless, we'll get

776
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 6: designer bags that might cost five thousand dollars. You got

777
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 6: five dollars in your wallet.

778
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Speaker 3: In the bag.

779
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: But if you look like you're rich, you know, down

780
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 6: south they call it a big hat, no cattle. And

781
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 6: so what we want to do is help people to

782
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 6: really understand and what wealth is so that they don't

783
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 6: spend all of their money trying to look rich and

784
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 6: they get conditioned to do that. And that's one of

785
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Speaker 6: the reasons why I wrote this book, Ken is because

786
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Speaker 6: for twenty years I have had a pleasure of interviewing

787
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Speaker 6: some of the wealthiest people in America, people like Bill

788
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: Marriott and David Rubinstein and Ted Ley. ELS's of seeing

789
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: case founder one after another of the billionaires, and I

790
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 6: was taught that there's a distinct difference between being rich

791
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: and wealthy. So when people try and look rich, they

792
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 6: are trying to go after a version or a image

793
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 6: that they have been sold. And now I want to

794
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 6: teach you how to get real wealth. And this book does.

795
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Speaker 2: They want to be that way and they want it now.

796
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like there's any way to save

797
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: and you, I swear to God, doctor. When that Amazon

798
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: truck goes down the street, it's not just a truck

799
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: with packages. It does something to you. It's like it's

800
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: like a drug. It's like it's like liquor.

801
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: You get it.

802
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: They might as well be delivering liquor as opposed to

803
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: like a handbag or something. People get off on that statue.

804
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 6: Absolutely. You know, when we were little, there was the

805
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 6: ice cream man would come down the street and they

806
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: ring the bell or the music will play, and our

807
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 6: mouths will start watering be cause we had been conditioned

808
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: to do that. And just like Tablog in his studies

809
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 6: with the dog, he rang the bell and the dog

810
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 6: would relivate. So it is it true with us that

811
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 6: we have been conditioned to have immediate gratification that we

812
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 6: wanted now, and we're willing to put it on a

813
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 6: credit card, We're willing to go in debt, We're willing

814
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 6: to do whatever. And I'm saying to folks, stop, let

815
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 6: me help you get control of your money and control

816
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: of your emotions. And look, this is I tell people.

817
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 6: This book didn't come from me, came through me. It's

818
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: the lessons I learned from these billionaires, and so I

819
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: learned about the difference between being rich and being wealthy.

820
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 6: So the book first is all the people who want

821
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 6: to be wealthy, not just look rich, but really be

822
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Speaker 6: wealthy and learn how to do it by learning first

823
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Speaker 6: what it is, and it's profoundly different that we've all thought.

824
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Speaker 6: Second is all the people who have worked hard all

825
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 6: their lives and scraped and saved and sacrificed and lived

826
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Speaker 6: below their means, who've done the right thing to create

827
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Speaker 6: a nest stage, but they're concerned that their children will

828
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Speaker 6: not maintain it. Or, as one man said to me,

829
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Speaker 6: doctor Jolly, my greatest fears my children will go through

830
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: in months what it took me decades to grow. And

831
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Speaker 6: he said, I've read your book now, and I've bought

832
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 6: he bought ten copies. He said, I read your book.

833
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: I bought the ten copies because I've made this now

834
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 6: mandatory reading for anybody to be putting my will. My children,

835
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 6: all my grandchildren must read this book before I put

836
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 6: them into will. And that's because he's trying to teach

837
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 6: them the principles to take care of what he has

838
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 6: worked heart so hard for. See, one generation ceiling should

839
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 6: be the floor for the next generation, but we rarely

840
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: see that because the second generation they'll get that money

841
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 6: and see it as a lottery hit and they'll by

842
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 6: by by they they'll consume, consume, consumed. That's why I

843
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 6: wrote Richard's Good Wealthy is Better, and I want to

844
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 6: encourage people to go to Riches, Goodwealthysbetter dot com and

845
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 6: get some of the free chapters that we put there,

846
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: just to help you see the profound impact that we

847
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 6: of the conditioning.

848
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Speaker 2: Now, I'd be willing to guess, and you tell me

849
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, But I'd be willing to guess that

850
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: unless you had the great fortune of being married, I'm sorry,

851
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: born into a family where you have parents that are millionaires,

852
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: I would guess that most of the people that we

853
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: look at today and we see, oh my, look at them,

854
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: they're great corporate leaders, or look at the wealth they well,

855
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: they all started with nothing. And it was there the

856
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: almost yeah, I mean, you know, we'll get it on

857
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: the head.

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00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 10: Hey, all of us, all.

859
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: Of us are born without clothes, right, I mean that's

860
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: that's again, were born without clothes. What kind of clothes

861
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: you wear is largely determined by what kind of ingenuity

862
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Speaker 2: and what kind of discipline you have. And I guess

863
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Speaker 2: all of these people that are in your book were

864
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Speaker 2: that way.

865
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Speaker 6: Absolutely. You hit two words that were critical discipline and ingenuity.

866
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Speaker 6: But that discipline, Oh that's the secret. And what I

867
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Speaker 6: talk about in the book is that most of the people,

868
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Speaker 6: almost all of them that I met and interviewed on

869
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Speaker 6: my extra show on my Willie Jolly Wealthy Ways podcast,

870
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Speaker 6: they all started with nothing. Many of them went through

871
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 6: being bankrupt, having loser this house the car. Many of

872
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 6: them struggled, but they developed that ingenuity. They developed discipline,

873
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 6: and they built wealth. And he said, think, anybody can

874
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Speaker 6: do it, as long as you have income and you're

875
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Speaker 6: willing to live alow your means. There's one of the

876
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Speaker 6: stories I read about it in the book is a

877
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Speaker 6: lady named Mary Ellen Pleasant who were the nineteen hundreds,

878
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Speaker 6: was a domestic worker. She cleaned people's homes and she

879
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 6: washed their clothes. But she never made more than six

880
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 6: thousand dollars a year, never, But when she died she

881
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 6: had a net worth of two point seven million dollars

882
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 6: because she lived alow her means, and she was disciplined,

883
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Speaker 6: and she had this developed the skill of delayed gratification.

884
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Speaker 4: If you can do this boat, Yeah, I read about her.

885
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Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't she the first self

886
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: made millionaire of African American heritage? Am I wrong?

887
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 6: You was one of the That's correct, right?

888
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: I read about her in your book. That's great in

889
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: the book.

890
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Speaker 6: In the book. So I've got all of these stories,

891
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 6: I've got all of these lessons, I've got all of

892
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 6: these principles that these people have taught me, and I'm

893
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 6: just teaching what I've been taught. And so many people

894
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 6: are now saying how they have read it and it's

895
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: changed their whole life, including my granddaughter Ken. My granddaughter

896
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 6: lives in Silicon Valley. She's a techulady in Silicon Valley,

897
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 6: sixth figure techilating. But I gave her the book when

898
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 6: I was still preparing to finish it, and I said,

899
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Speaker 6: read this. She that was the last fault. And so

900
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Speaker 6: she called me about a month later, said, top, your

901
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: book has changed my life. I've been living in a

902
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 6: very expensive apartment downtown San Jose. I've got the credit

903
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Speaker 6: card debt from all my travels and all my spending.

904
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Speaker 6: You have made me realize how important it is to

905
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 6: stop and get this one.

906
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Speaker 10: She said.

907
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Speaker 6: Here's what I'm gonna do, Parker.

908
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 8: You like it?

909
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: I said, what is that? She said, I'm going to

910
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: move out of my apartment and live in my car

911
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 6: for for three months. I said what She said? I

912
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 6: can sleep, I can park my car in my office building,

913
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Speaker 6: go in and go to the gym, shower, and go

914
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Speaker 6: and eat well. I said, no, I'm not comfortable with

915
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Speaker 6: that's that's safe. I said, why don't you do this?

916
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 6: Why don't you get a less expensive apartment not downtown.

917
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 6: She did that. She saved them thousand dollars a month

918
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 6: on her rent. She took that money and paid down

919
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 6: her credit card and she said, I'm all my way

920
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: to wealth because she's investing the difference.

921
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Speaker 4: It made her make a change.

922
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Speaker 6: That's the change. So I want people to do that.

923
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: I want everybody to go to rich is good, Wealthy

924
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 6: is better than I cop do it right now. Rich

925
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 6: is good, Wealthy is better. I come read some of

926
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Speaker 6: the free chapters, and if you get the book, get

927
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 6: a couple of copies. If you get more than two copies,

928
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 6: you're shipping is free. And you get copies for your

929
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 6: family members, your kids, your grand kids, your cousins, get

930
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 6: it for them and bless them with it because it's

931
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 6: going to change their lives.

932
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Speaker 2: And the author is doctor Willie Jolly. That's who we're

933
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: talking to right now. You know it's something important. It's

934
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: that the next generation that inherits money makes the generation

935
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: that has that money nervous because they know that next

936
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: generation is most probably going to spend it and spend

937
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: it crazily and go right through it and basically just

938
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Speaker 2: urinate away all of the wealth that their parents have made.

939
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: But here's I think this is important. I'm sure it's

940
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: in your book. The greatest gift we can give as

941
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: parents to our children is an understanding of money, how

942
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: it's made, how difficult it is to make, and why

943
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: spending isn't necessarily the best thing to do with it

944
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: until you've done something to make that money make money?

945
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

946
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 6: You are absolutely right. Look, regular people work for their money.

947
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 6: Wealthy people make their money work for them, and the

948
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: reason they do is because they know how to do it.

949
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 6: How do they learn it? This financial literacy? Unfortunately we

950
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 6: are not taught that in school. We have doctors and

951
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: lawyers and high income people who are living up to

952
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 6: the limit of their money because no one taught them

953
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 6: in medical school, or in law school, or in architecture

954
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 6: school how to manage their money. So it's not something

955
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 6: that automatically comes. That is one of the reasons why

956
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 6: I wrote the book to teach people how the wealthy

957
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 6: have created the wealth, and then they teach it to

958
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Speaker 6: the children. One great story I interviewed the president of

959
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 6: the Dale Carnegie Institute, and I said, Okay, Dale Carnegie

960
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: wrote the book and how to win friends and influence people,

961
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 6: and created an organization that teaches people communication skills. I said, okay, sir,

962
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Speaker 6: I know about that. Tell me about your business model.

963
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 6: We said, we have a franchise model. I said, great.

964
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 6: I said, how many franchise thousands of franchises around the world.

965
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 6: I said, okay, what's the franchise fee. He told me

966
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Speaker 6: to see. I did the calculation. That's see by that

967
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 6: much those many ooh, that's a million of dollars. I said,

968
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 6: let me ask you a question of where can I

969
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 6: buy stock in that company? He said you can't. I said,

970
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: why can't I it's a private company. I said, what

971
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 6: corporation owns the company? He said, no corporation. The family

972
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 6: owns the company. I said the family. I said, how

973
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 6: long have they owned it? One hundred and ten years.

974
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: So for one hundred and ten years they've got millions

975
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 6: of coming in every month. But here's the secret. Each

976
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 6: generation talked the next generation how not to squander it.

977
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: And that's what I want to help people.

978
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, doctor Jolly, always great catching up with you.

979
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: And when we say doctor Jolly, doctor of psychology from

980
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Speaker 2: AU American University right there in the district of Columbia.

981
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: It was about five minutes away from where I live

982
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: when I worked out that way and again the book

983
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: is rich is good, Wealthy is better. And I meant

984
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: that what I said at having you on is the

985
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Speaker 2: best doctor. Stay well, Stay well, man.

986
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Speaker 6: You can kill yourself. Kid.

987
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: We need you, one of my favorite.

988
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Speaker 10: You know you one of my favorite.

989
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 6: Have a great day.

990
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you too. Absolutely. We got to do a better

991
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 2: job at teaching our kids how to work with money.

992
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: We need to do a better job working with money.

993
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: But most important, I think is understanding how dollars work,

994
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: how tough it is to make a buck, how far

995
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: a dollar goes, and what you can do so you're

996
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: not constantly living hand mouth. Yeah, a lot of that

997
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: is circumstanced, a lot of that. Life will beat you

998
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: down on a lot of different angles. But if you

999
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: got the discipline early on, you'll have the dough later on.

1000
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: It's a title for my book one twenty seven News

1001
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred WLW. I'm making an effort to better myself.

1002
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: That's why I'm raising baby sharks in my bathtub. I

1003
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Speaker 2: hope you're not an owner of a lonely heart. Actually,

1004
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Speaker 2: I just saw Rick Wakeman is Company Town, the keyboardist

1005
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: on the song of Course the group is yes, and

1006
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Speaker 2: he's going to be at the Blood the garage might

1007
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: have to get him on one of my shows, Great

1008
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: prod Rock Keyboards Welcome Back. It is Saturday afternoon. It

1009
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: as you and me right here till three o'clock. If

1010
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 2: you've ever been on a job interview, you know those

1011
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: things can be stressful. Back in the bad old days,

1012
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: they would all be in person. Now a lot of

1013
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: them are done at least initially by a phone call

1014
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: or by zoom, but invariably, if you're any good, you

1015
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 2: wind up getting a face to face interview, and that's

1016
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Speaker 2: where the trouble could start. Red flags are all abound,

1017
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: abounding as we speak with people that do the hiring,

1018
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: and these are pretty common mistakes that people make. For example,

1019
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: if somebody is patting their resume and it's not really

1020
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: what his work history or her work history may be,

1021
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: or maybe the candidate can't maintain eye contact. That always

1022
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: drove me crazy. Look at me what I'm talking to you.

1023
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: Don't look at the floor, don't look at a painting

1024
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: behind me. Tell me what you can do for my company.

1025
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: Don't tell me about all the great things that you

1026
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: think you can do, tell me tangibly what you've done

1027
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: at the last place you've worked, and don't trash the

1028
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: last place that you work. These are red flags. And

1029
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: there are others like not knowing about the company you're

1030
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: interviewing with. And so I saw this on the internet

1031
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 2: the other day because there is a story out right now.

1032
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: It's done by a company called the Hunt Club huntclub

1033
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: dot com. Few tips that might get you where you

1034
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 2: need to go. And then I thought, well, I don't

1035
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: know anybody at the Hunt Club, but I know David

1036
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: Kathy at Unity Search, and I've had him on the

1037
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: show many times before. It's one of the premier search

1038
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: companies in America, and the replacement of quality employees is

1039
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: just terrific. So I said, David, come on, let's go,

1040
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: let's go on the show. Talk about it. Here he

1041
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: is flashing euphemistically speaking of course online one, David, how

1042
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: are you on this glorious Saturday.

1043
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: We are doing fantastic and just fantastic.

1044
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: I found this article interesting. Red flags and hiring. The

1045
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: hiring process is an awkward process. I know, more so

1046
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: perhaps for the interview than the interviewer. But there are

1047
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: some things if you're going on a job interview, they

1048
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: just seem like common sense, but yet it's people violate

1049
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: these unspoken truths about interviewing. Number one I think is

1050
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: how you dress. I mean, don't look like you're going

1051
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: out to run a marathon or something like that. Put

1052
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: some good clothes on, right.

1053
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: And I mean how you dress. Oh my gosh. Well,

1054
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: there's two components here. Number one, you got to try

1055
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: to figure out how if you can dress a notch

1056
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 4: above the interviewer, So how do you do that? Well?

1057
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: Doing your research, try to figure out what the environments

1058
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: like there, if it's a business, casual dress business. The

1059
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: trickier part now is zoom interviews, interviews on teams, because

1060
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: that's more relaxed, and you might be sitting at your

1061
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 4: home office or desk or kitchen table. Who knows you

1062
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: have a tendency to be more relaxed and you have

1063
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: a tendency to dress down. And that is an absolute

1064
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: trap and you've got to take it. This is a

1065
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: this is a job interview for goodness sake, right, we've

1066
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: got to take this serious.

1067
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: Right, So so dress up from from But if the

1068
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: company is business. That does not necessarily mean you should

1069
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: put on formal attire, right You don't need to walk

1070
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: in in a TuS and a bow.

1071
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Speaker 4: Tie, No, no, absolutely not. You kind of got to

1072
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: know what your company is in, right, So if they're

1073
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 4: in a investment banking or maybe some private equity firms,

1074
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: they're probably going to be in a suit, so you

1075
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: would wear If the company is a manufacturing company, which

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: is jeans and a polo, often, well you're probably in

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: maybe a nice polo or button up shirt and some takis.

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: You're just trying to take it up at least one

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Speaker 4: notch from what the company is.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about research. Know what you're walking into.

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: You should know a little bit certainly about the environment.

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00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: You should know as much as you can about the

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Speaker 2: company you're interviewing with. I think one of the mistakes

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Speaker 2: a lot of people do is they walk in and

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Speaker 2: they try to sell themselves, but they wind up not

1086
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Speaker 2: selling their knowledge of what the company is all about,

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Speaker 2: and it becomes basically interview X. It could fit anywhere

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Speaker 2: for the INTERVIEWE. You need to be a little more

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Speaker 2: specific in what you're talking about. When you're sitting across

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Speaker 2: from the person that either as a manager or owns

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Speaker 2: the place, put a little effort into where you're going

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Speaker 2: to or you hope to go to work. Right.

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Speaker 4: You could not be more correct. And this one boggles

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Speaker 4: my mind. So do the research, and not just the

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00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: superficial research, right. I mean you can go online and

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Speaker 4: you can search for maybe a couple of minutes and

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Speaker 4: pull out a couple of things that can be very superficial.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give you an example. We're going to

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Speaker 4: take a publicly traded and a non publicly traded company.

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Speaker 4: If I'm going to go into a company and they say, hey, David,

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Speaker 4: you know, tell us a little bit what you've learned

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Speaker 4: about our organization. Am I going to answer, well, I

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Speaker 4: know that y'all are publicly traded. Like that is so superficial.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to drive more into details. And here's a

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Speaker 4: couple of easily easy hacks for people. Go to the

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Speaker 4: about us section of their website, where it talks about

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Speaker 4: largely the organization, the history of the organization. Go to

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Speaker 4: the product. Make sure you understand and look and know

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: those products, specially if it's consumer products, because that may

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Speaker 4: be sitting in your bathroom or in your kitchen, and

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Speaker 4: you want to refer to that in the interview. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've realized that, you know, you may manufacture dice in vacuums.

1113
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Speaker 4: I actually have used that all the time. My mom,

1114
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Speaker 4: in fact, loves them. And then you can kind of

1115
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Speaker 4: go down and tell a personal story that relates to it.

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Speaker 2: Zoom makes everything a little more difficult. It's there's no

1117
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Speaker 2: nuance to it. It's a two dimensional kind of an interview.

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Speaker 2: But I'm reading here where it only takes about ninety

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Speaker 2: seconds for an interviewer to decide whether or not to

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Speaker 2: hire you, which means you'd better come out of the

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Speaker 2: gate ready to go. But you can oversell it too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a fine line that works there is

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Speaker 2: they're not well.

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Speaker 4: There is a fine line in everything that we do,

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Speaker 4: especially when you're interviewing. That's an important component. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think there are times, especially in Zoom, where there

1127
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Speaker 4: are some basics that you need to do. You need

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Speaker 4: to smile, you need to have a clear background or

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Speaker 4: a good background on your Zoom can. One time we

1130
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Speaker 4: had a guy interview at a client and he decided

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Speaker 4: to interview in the front of his liquor cabinet and

1132
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Speaker 4: so behind him is all of his liquor. That is

1133
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Speaker 4: not something that you should be doing. So check your surroundings,

1134
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Speaker 4: check what you're wearing. Here's a tricky, tricky one that

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Speaker 4: I always advise people it's really hard to do. Is

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Speaker 4: that if you're looking at the screen you want to

1137
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Speaker 4: come across as you're making eye contact on zoom, Well

1138
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Speaker 4: that means that you're looking at that little tiny dot

1139
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: at the top of your monitor. That doesn't mean that

1140
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: you're looking at the screen, right, And so you need

1141
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: to spend as much time as you can looking at

1142
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: that dot because the receiver thinks you are looking at

1143
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: them in their eye and eye contact is such a

1144
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Speaker 4: critical component of interviewing, sure is.

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Speaker 2: And you know, even if you don't have a place

1146
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: to do a zoom that's clean or appealing to the eye,

1147
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: you can download backgrounds for zoom. You know, I would

1148
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Speaker 2: not necessarily, you know, put myself in a position where

1149
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm standing in front of the Eiffel Tower or anything

1150
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: like that, but I mean, if you absolutely have to,

1151
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: you can get backgrounds for zooms now. And I've done

1152
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Speaker 2: that times.

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Speaker 4: You know, great recommendation can great recommendation, and there's a

1154
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Speaker 4: lot like everything out here, here's the other thing, real quick,

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Speaker 4: if I would add this is okay. We are in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Largely the world has been some component

1157
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: of remote since COVID twenty twenty. Whether you are currently

1158
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: remote or not, there was some component of working remote.

1159
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 4: So please know how teams or Zoom works. You don't

1160
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: want to provide the feedback at this point in time

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Speaker 4: to the interviewer. Sorry, I was five or ten. I

1162
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: couldn't get seams or Zoom or whatever device you're on

1163
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: to actually work. It's one of my first times using it.

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Speaker 2: This may sound like I'm trying to damn an entire generation,

1165
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: but when gen z ers interact, they don't always look

1166
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: at you. They kind of look past you. It's kind

1167
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: of like a blank stare. And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that's because they live most of their lives on devices

1169
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: and most of their interaction is done in characters as

1170
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: opposed to the spoken word. But practice talk to your mom,

1171
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: talk to your dad, put them in front of you

1172
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: or whatever. But at least get to a point where

1173
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Speaker 2: you have some expression and some interest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ken, I mean I'm going to give you some

1175
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 4: quick hits, real quick, especially for I hate to say

1176
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: it too, maybe that generation, but hey, look I'm gene

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Speaker 4: X and we don't have everything right. We've got a

1178
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Speaker 4: lot of things right, but we certainly don't have everything right.

1179
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Speaker 4: Practicing practice in a mirror if you don't have, if

1180
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: you live by yourself, practicing practice with your pet. But

1181
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: just rehearse before you go into the interview. Pull the

1182
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: visor down on your car, get into the parking lot

1183
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes early, pull the visor down on your car,

1184
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: and just go through what your intro is going to

1185
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 4: be when you say hi and a smile. A couple

1186
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: of things I would not do. I would not have

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Speaker 4: my first question be a about maternity leave or PTO

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Speaker 4: or benefits or what does this position pay? That is

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Speaker 4: a huge no.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: One other thing that I would mention along those lines.

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Speaker 4: And you know, kind of with that practice is you

1193
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 4: have to have the ability to articulate in detail what

1194
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: your experience is and how that applies to this role.

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 4: The yes knows questions add content something that the interviewer

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: can sink their teeth into, so they walk away from

1197
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: that meeting going, man, this person really knows their stuff,

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Speaker 4: and I can see why they would be a good

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Speaker 4: fit for this position instead of just one line answers,

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Speaker 4: which to the point that you are making for the

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Speaker 4: generation that we've been talking about here, when they do

1202
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 4: interact often it can be very short, punchy answers. Well,

1203
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Speaker 4: you want to elaborate on why this interviewer would be

1204
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: crazy to not get you a second round interview or

1205
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 4: the job.

1206
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And whatever you do, don't bring your mom

1207
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Speaker 2: or your dad to the interview. Did you see that story?

1208
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Speaker 2: Is that about a year ago, forty percent of gen

1209
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Speaker 2: Zers brought a parent to a job interview.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean we've we've seen that. We've seen mom

1211
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Speaker 4: and dad driving them to the interview. We've had parents,

1212
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Speaker 4: you know, we're recruiting in a staffing firm, We've had

1213
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Speaker 4: mom and dad walk into our office with their son

1214
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Speaker 4: or daughter to help them meet with us to get

1215
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Speaker 4: a job. Like these are some things that you know

1216
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 4: you're a professional and companies want the best people. It

1217
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Speaker 4: is incredibly competitive in the job market.

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Speaker 11: And also just don't this isn't about.

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Speaker 4: Just getting a job. You need to demonstrate that you

1220
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Speaker 4: want this for your career. Jobs come and go, careers stay,

1221
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 4: and so you really need to think through and be

1222
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Speaker 4: able to answer the question and not just do I

1223
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 4: want this job, but how are you presenting yourself that

1224
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: you want this as your career and how youre going

1225
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 4: to develop.

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Speaker 2: David, this is good stuff, David Kathy again. He is

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Speaker 2: with the Unity Search group. You can find them at

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Speaker 2: unitysearch dot com and he has been there a very

1229
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Speaker 2: long time. It's one of the top recruiting country companies

1230
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Speaker 2: in the country. All right, David, we appreciate your time here.

1231
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Speaker 4: You bet Chen always good talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you do when you're doing an interview on a

1233
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: job interview, don't play with your hair. Look the person

1234
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: in the eye. You want the job right, you want

1235
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: to make some dead arrow for whatever reason, you want

1236
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: to look the person in the eye. Drive me crazy.

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Speaker 2: One fifty one on this Saturday, still to come. What

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Speaker 2: was Christy Noans? What was she doing? I'm sorry, not

1239
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: Christy Nome Tulsea Gabbard. What was she doing looking at

1240
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty election votes in Georgia? And how does that

1241
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: tie into the capture of Meduro from Venezuela. Straight Ahead

1242
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: US Now your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW JO eight here.

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Speaker 2: On the tri State on another Chili Saturday. Welcome on

1246
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: in one more hour to goo hey. We'll have some

1247
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl pop bets for you coming up before we're done.

1248
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: Chance for you to make some money, also a chance

1249
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Speaker 2: for you to lose some money, So stay tuned for

1250
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Speaker 2: all of that. What exactly was Tulsey Gabbard doing in

1251
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Speaker 2: the Fulton County Election office? What was she doing there?

1252
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: Who sent her there? Was it? Donald Trump? Was a

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: cash bettel? Who set the woman there? That seems to

1254
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: be a matter of concern. And why was she there

1255
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Speaker 2: in the first place? Well, would have you believe, at

1256
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Speaker 2: least by what happened in the wake of her being there,

1257
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: that the twenty twenty election is rearing its ugly head again.

1258
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Fulton County Commissioner chair Rob

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: Pitts announced this week that his group is seeking the

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01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: return of roughly seven hundred boxes of election records seized

1261
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: during the raid and for an affidavit from the Feds

1262
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: in support of the FBI's search warrant to be unsealed.

1263
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 2: Trump repeatedly has called for the Republican Party to nationalize

1264
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: voting and take over elections in the United States, in

1265
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: his words in fifteen places, didn't specify where. But why

1266
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: is this still an issue? Is it a personal vendetta

1267
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: for the president or was there something else to it?

1268
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: Which leads us back to why was the president of

1269
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: Venezuela captured and taken it out the country, Nicholas Maduro?

1270
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: Was it drugs? We thought maybe it would be maybe

1271
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: something to do with drugs. Was it oil? Yeah, something

1272
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: to do with oil. Now it might have something to

1273
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: do with a potential role he might have had in

1274
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: what was referred to back in twenty twenty as election fraud. Anyway,

1275
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: knee deep in all of this, and you know he

1276
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: would be because he just loves controversy. He loves to

1277
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: get into things that other people won't. Is my next guest.

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Speaker 2: If you are a consumer of the Epic Times Epic TV,

1279
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: you know all about Joshua Philip. We've had Joshua on

1280
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: the show before and he is knee deep in this

1281
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: as well, So it's great we can get him on

1282
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: for some clarification on all of this. And Joshua, how

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Speaker 2: are you on this glorious Saturday, doing great?

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Speaker 10: And you know, definitely no shortage of new I'll tell

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Speaker 10: you that No, we.

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Speaker 2: Had thought, okay, the whole thing with Maduro was oil

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Speaker 2: if nothing, if not that it might have been drug

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Speaker 2: all those boats that were being blown up in the

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Speaker 2: Atlantic Ocean. But here comes this raid on this election

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Speaker 2: office in Fulton County, of which the city of Atlanta sits.

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Speaker 2: Why would Donald Trump still be interested in an election

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Speaker 2: that was certified and he lost and came back to

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Speaker 2: win again in twenty twenty four. Why is this a

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Speaker 2: personal thing? What's going on here?

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Speaker 10: I believe that's several tiers. So Donald Trump has never

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Speaker 10: changed his belief or his public statement that he believed

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Speaker 10: the twenty twenty election was rigged. I mean, he says

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Speaker 10: that all the time in his post on truth Social

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Speaker 10: He's been saying it since, you know, before the elections

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Speaker 10: were finalized. It was part of his calls for investigations.

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Speaker 10: It was the real thing behind January sixth, because you know,

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Speaker 10: remember January sixth, The real thing that happened was not

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 10: supposed to be Trump ordering people to go laid the

1304
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 10: Capitol building. What Trump was actually calling on Congress to

1305
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 10: do that day was read to the public every piece

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 10: of evidence of election fraud and broadcasted on live TV,

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01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 10: and that never happened because, of course the bomb threat

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01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 10: would shut down the event they had planned at the

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Speaker 10: Capitol building, and then because people breached the Capitol while

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Speaker 10: Trump was still speaking at the ellipse at the Washington Monument.

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 10: You know, that was the real story of the right.

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Speaker 10: And so what you're now seeing is Trump effectively calling

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Speaker 10: for the release or the investigation of evidence from Fulton County.

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Speaker 10: And Fulton County was kind of the epicenter of the

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Speaker 10: election night controversy. I remember myself reporting that night and

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Speaker 10: leading up to right before they froze the vote. Based

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Speaker 10: on numbers, it looked like Biden had no chance of winning.

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 10: The rate of votes coming in, there was no possible

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 10: chance he would win. The number of votes were already counted,

1320
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 10: there was no possible chance he was going to win.

1321
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Speaker 10: And it looked like we're all ready to call it.

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Speaker 10: And then what happened, Well, Fulton County they had a

1323
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 10: plumbing issue and froze the election. The election froze, and

1324
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 10: then several other states frozen right alongside them, and then

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 10: you have this sudden, just you know, vertical spike and

1326
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 10: Biden votes that came in. Trump started coming out saying Biden,

1327
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 10: but you then declared Biden the winner. Then Trump came

1328
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 10: out said, hey, you raged it. This is fake. We

1329
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 10: had all kinds of crazy stories coming out. Some of

1330
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 10: them proved to be true, some of them or some

1331
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 10: of them proved to be a think credible. Some of

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 10: them did prove to be false because a lot of

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 10: false information was presented. Trump was present with a very

1334
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 10: difficult issue where he was calling for investigations into possible

1335
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 10: election fraud during a very short window between election night

1336
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Speaker 10: and you know, the certification from Congress on January sixth,

1337
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 10: And basically some people would argue, well, courts looked at

1338
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 10: the election cases, nothing stood up. The reality with that

1339
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 10: is that not a single one of those cases actually

1340
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 10: looked at the evidence. The cases were thrown up prior

1341
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 10: to an examination of evidence, so evidence of fraud was

1342
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 10: never shown to the American public. Evidence of froud has

1343
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 10: never properly presented, It was never investigated, and Trump seems

1344
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 10: to be sticking by his guns and saying he still

1345
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 10: believes there was fraud. My personal take on Fulton County,

1346
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 10: it's a This is one of those things where if

1347
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 10: you're going to shoot, you better hit because You're not

1348
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 10: going to get a second chance.

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 10: If it turns out there's fraud, Trump is vindicated. If

1351
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 10: it turns out there is not, it means that he's

1352
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 10: been wrong this whole time. And so this is this

1353
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 10: is this is it? Basically?

1354
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: Well okay, okay, So I mean, if you listen to

1355
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: the mainstream medium, Trump ordered Tulsa Gabbert to go down

1356
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: there and stage this raid. And they got under the

1357
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: whole discussion, well, who told her to get down there

1358
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: was a Trump was a betel. She was not real

1359
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: forthcoming with her initial answer. I think lost in all

1360
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: of this is that there was a court order to

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01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: do this. So somewhere, somehow, some way they convinced to

1362
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: judge there was something a foul going on down there.

1363
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: So it wasn't some personal raid it was it was

1364
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: a legal order that was being carried out. So I

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01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: don't sinse that's getting a lot of play here nationally

1366
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: on that particular aspect of this. The judge must have

1367
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: been convinced to issue the order that there might be

1368
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: something down there after oh these many years. So okay,

1369
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 2: So nevertheless, they go there, they get seven hundred boxes,

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: they leave with them. Fulton County wants these back. Who's

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: looking at the boxes? Where did they go?

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Speaker 10: The FBI, Well, this is the thing, So Fulton County

1373
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 10: is suing to get the boxes back. The FBI carried

1374
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 10: out the ranks the raid. The Director of National Intelligence

1375
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 10: piltogetheries and then oversaw it. At least it was there,

1376
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 10: which means a couple of things to me. As you

1377
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 10: mentioned piece number one, this was this was a you know,

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 10: certified by a judge. They had a it was approved

1379
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 10: you know what I mean That That means it did

1380
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 10: go through a process. They did have a warrant the search,

1381
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 10: meaning they went to the proper legal channels, meaning a

1382
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 10: judge has already decided they could go and do it.

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Speaker 10: That makes it very difficult for Fuln County to say,

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01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 10: how dare you take, you know, this evidence if there's evidence,

1385
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 10: because if judge already approved it, this was a court

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 10: approved raid, they can try to appeal.

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Speaker 11: It depends what comes out.

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Speaker 10: The presence of the Director of National Intelligence suggests this

1389
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 10: is not just about a criminal inquiry. This is about

1390
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 10: something of national security that means possible foreign interference. That

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 10: also means possible nationwide like a nationwide kind of scandal

1392
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 10: impacting national security US that that is not as far

1393
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 10: fetched because even going back to the Obama administration, even

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 10: going back to Biden if he was president, you know,

1395
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 10: election security was regarded as an issue of national security.

1396
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 10: You know, during Trump, during the Obama's term in office,

1397
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 10: when Trump won the elections, Obama and the whole gang there,

1398
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 10: they were saying that Russia was the election. They made

1399
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 10: this an issue of national intelligence. We had the whole

1400
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 10: Trump Russia scandal turned up to be a hoax, but

1401
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 10: you know, they did create some federal level national security

1402
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 10: oversight based on false information, which was the whole Trump

1403
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 10: RuSHA scandal. Same thing with Biden. They made this national

1404
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 10: security issue. So Trump is not really doing anything different

1405
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 10: on the presence of the DNI. I think this is

1406
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 10: really a false scandal. The media is trying to cook

1407
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 10: up right now. You have the mainstream cookup right now.

1408
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: All right, So that brings us to Maduro, who is

1409
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: in the United States custody awaiting trial. Meduro was from Venezuela. Look,

1410
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: the dominion voting machines are correct me if I'm wrong here,

1411
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: Joshua were manufactured in Venezuela. This is a Venezuelan company,

1412
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of litigation and a lot

1413
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: of money paid to dominion or allegations by various news

1414
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: outlets about the credibility of their machines and whether or

1415
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: not they had any hand in it. So it doesn't

1416
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: take one much to wonder, Okay, is this anyway, shape

1417
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: or form with Maduro's capture? Does this have anything to

1418
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: do with his government? And what might have been going

1419
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: on with one company that might have been operating in

1420
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: his in his country. How does Maduro figure out figure

1421
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: into all of this.

1422
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 10: Well, we'll have to see, because you know, Maduro has

1423
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 10: been accused of bringing the elections in his country as

1424
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 10: far as I understand, and it's been hard to even

1425
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 10: investigate because it's so blockaded on everything. You know, you

1426
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 10: touch it, they sue you.

1427
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 11: It's crazy.

1428
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 10: But from what we what we do know, based on

1429
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 10: whistleblowers and claims, some of the underlying technologies in some

1430
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 10: of the voting systems do tie back to Venezuela, and

1431
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 10: we don't actually know how much because nobody can really

1432
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 10: investigate it. And so Trump doing this from the national

1433
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 10: security level, could do his answers on that we could

1434
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 10: finally get answers on it. I do remember because I

1435
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 10: was covering this back during the twenty twenty elections, and

1436
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 10: when this whole thing was out there, Sidney Powell who

1437
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 10: got dragged at the Winger, one of Trump's lawyers. She

1438
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 10: was presenting evidence that did allege Venezuela, a lot, Russia,

1439
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 10: and China all three had been involved in some way

1440
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 10: in making the elections. And you know, it's kind of

1441
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 10: hard getting into Russia, kind of hard getting into China.

1442
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 10: Venezuela's Trump just demonstrated apparently it was not that hard

1443
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 10: to get into and so we might get answers on that.

1444
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 10: And this is this is the other thing too though.

1445
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 10: If they do investigation and it turns out there's nothing there,

1446
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 10: it's going to look really bad on Trump.

1447
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this will.

1448
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 10: Massively backfire on him. But if it turns out he

1449
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 10: was right, this could fundamentally remake our political landscape. This

1450
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 10: could this could cause outrage not just in America but

1451
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 10: in every country in the world but uses similar systems

1452
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 10: like Trump is kind of upsetting the global political balance

1453
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 10: by launching this investigation. If he is right, and if

1454
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 10: he has been right all along, we could watch a

1455
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 10: change in basically global governance because and national governmance. This

1456
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 10: could upset local elections. This could you know, big people

1457
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 10: demand re you know, like a recounts or re elections,

1458
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 10: you know, to basically make sure that none of this

1459
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 10: stuff was actually involved. And how it was that it

1460
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 10: will destroy people's state in the incumbent systems look that way. Well,

1461
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 10: there's globally globally.

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01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: There's also I mean, this has many tentacles at the

1463
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: Save Act, which is it's an eighty twenty proposition everything.

1464
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: Piece of research on it says that the Save Act

1465
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: should be should be passed. Seventy one percent of Democrats

1466
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: in the last poll I saw were in favor of

1467
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 2: the Save Act, which is basically, you have to have

1468
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: an ID that proves that you are a legal citizen

1469
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,879
Speaker 2: of this country and eligible to vote. So what a concept.

1470
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 2: So this may be all part of this greater global

1471
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: thing that's going on. But again I go back to

1472
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: Trump and whether or not this is personal. The judge's

1473
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: order would lead me to believe that it's far greater

1474
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: than that, But I don't know what the endgame is

1475
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 2: it is for him. He's done in less than three years.

1476
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: You can't go back and have a do over in

1477
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I just don't know what. I just don't

1478
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: know what it means to him other than to say, hey,

1479
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: look and look, he's right hell a lot more than

1480
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: he's wrong, other than say, is look I was right

1481
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 2: all along? And to me it seems like this is

1482
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: focus on things that a lot of the public has

1483
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: moved past. I don't understand what his idea is here

1484
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: other than that, I.

1485
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 10: Think Trump's view is he believes that our system has

1486
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 10: effectively been stolen from us, that the American people are

1487
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 10: being defrauded by by kind of a like a syndicate,

1488
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 10: like almost a criminal syndicate of political actors, NGOs, mainstream media,

1489
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 10: you know, political parties, and even globalist powers that have

1490
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 10: effected that are effectively kind of puppeteering systems of legal warfare,

1491
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:43,520
Speaker 10: systems of corporate monopoly, including election systems, non governmental organizations

1492
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 10: causing riots, protests on the streets, which you know a

1493
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 10: lot of these protests do kindt NGOs in fact, huge

1494
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 10: NGO funding, and even globalist powers if they're trying to

1495
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 10: extend their laws into American soil, you know, Congress just

1496
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 10: investigation and they're accusing the European Mission, which is the

1497
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 10: executive branch of the European Union, of rigging eight elections

1498
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 10: in Europe over the last several years, using basically what

1499
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 10: they're accusing the European Powers of doing is they were

1500
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 10: having meetings ahead of key elections, and they were working

1501
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 10: with NGOs government bodies and legal systems, and they were

1502
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 10: deciding which narratives should be censored on the Internet, and

1503
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 10: they were basically criminalizing political platforms, like if you talk

1504
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 10: about key issues, they were making you a literal criminal.

1505
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 10: And again, Congress House of Representatives just accused the European

1506
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 10: Commission of rigging literally eight elections in Europe noticeably and

1507
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 10: trying to do that here. And so I think what

1508
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 10: Trump is basically saying is We're not going to have

1509
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 10: a country we don't have we don't have representative democracy,

1510
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 10: which is a republic, if we don't have a clear

1511
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 10: election system, and frankly, if people and this is the

1512
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 10: other big thing, the faith in the system of the

1513
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 10: American people has been so badly damaged because of the investigations,

1514
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 10: because of rumors, because of claims. It's reached a point

1515
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 10: where some people are not going to be satisfied with

1516
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 10: having face in the system until we see investigations on

1517
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 10: that scale. So maybe in some ways it isn't necessary

1518
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 10: that we need this to restore faith in the system.

1519
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Well, the investigations from a congressional standpoint aren't going to happen.

1520
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: The Democrats will fight this tooth and nail. They don't

1521
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: want anything to do with revisiting twenty twenty, and they'll

1522
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: throw up January sixth at any point. So it would

1523
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: have to come from people like you. The mainstream media

1524
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be interested in this at all, other

1525
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: than to try and cast dispersions on Tulca Gabbart and

1526
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: why she was there and who's sent her. There's the

1527
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: minutia really that consumes the mainstream media this day is

1528
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 2: just it's absolutely staggering and appalling. At the same time, you,

1529
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: of course, are on this other things. By the way,

1530
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: I just watched your trailer for the new documentary The

1531
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: Framing of Charlie Kirk, Truth Underfire, The Framing of Charlie Kirk.

1532
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,440
Speaker 2: It looks great. When is that out?

1533
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 8: That is out?

1534
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 10: Currently?

1535
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 8: Is?

1536
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1537
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's out currently. It's on Epic TV, EPO TV

1538
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 10: dot com.

1539
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1540
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: No, we watch We watch it all the time. Back

1541
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: whatever you pop up. I tell my wife, Hey, I

1542
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: know that guy, that's my guy. She's totally she's totally unimpressed.

1543
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take that totally unimpressed with me. So don't

1544
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: worry about that, Joshua. Uh, but we're where where does

1545
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: your gut tell you this is leading? If anywhere?

1546
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: Uh?

1547
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 10: The investigations, Well, you know, there's something weird happening, as

1548
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 10: you mentioned with uh, you know, the Save Act right now,

1549
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 10: it's trying to go the kind of pushup through which

1550
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 10: will create it'll effectively create voter I D. As you mentioned,

1551
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 10: there's a disparity between what the people are demanding and

1552
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 10: what members of Congress or are saying. You know, you

1553
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 10: had Chuck Schumer come out and say the Save Act

1554
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 10: voter ID is equivalent to like, you know, like Civil

1555
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 10: rights era violations of race politics. He's calling he's literally

1556
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 10: calling it Jim prologue. Right, But if you look at polling,

1557
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 10: including from CNN, you're looking at upwards of eighty percent

1558
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 10: support for it among black voters, over seventy percent support

1559
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 10: for it on CMN. And so it's like it's like

1560
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 10: you're you have a guy come out and say, hey,

1561
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 10: this is racist in you know, the black voter right there,

1562
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 10: and he saying, no, it's not. He's like he's like,

1563
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 10: you know, shut your mouth.

1564
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 4: I just said it is.

1565
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 10: You know, how does that make sense?

1566
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 8: You know, like, in what universe does this make sense?

1567
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1568
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: And you got you got an ass hat like Jamie

1569
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Raskin who claims that you know, this is this is

1570
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 2: sexist because women don't have driver's license that have their

1571
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: real name, they just have their meridiths. Like, dude, it's like,

1572
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: have you ever tried to get like a passport? Have

1573
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: you ever tried to get a driver's license? Ever tried?

1574
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just they're scared to death

1575
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: because if indeed you ever went to vote, ID, if

1576
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: you ever went to an election day, not an election season,

1577
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: all of these illegal immigrants that are in this country

1578
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 2: would not be allowed to vote. And that's the end game.

1579
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: They want those people on the dole. They want Puerto

1580
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: Rico as a state. Washington, d C. Is a state.

1581
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: That's what they want. And if you were to take

1582
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: public yeah, that's right. And if you were to play

1583
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: all of that out, this is probably what's in play

1584
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: with all of this? Well, anyway, be that as it may.

1585
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for some contexts all of this. Again, you can

1586
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: find Joshua at Epic TV and the Epic Times, whereas

1587
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: the senior investigative reporter on this Saturday. Thank you for

1588
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: carving out some time for us today. Stay well, we

1589
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: need to hear your voice. Okay, okay, I think you

1590
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: might have dropped out, Joshua Philip. Oh you're still there. R.

1591
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 10: I appreciate, I appreciate it.

1592
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm just congratulated, Joshua. But I'm not going to do

1593
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: it again.

1594
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate it.

1595
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you.

1596
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is Joshua Philip. We'll continue next on seven

1597
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: hundred WLW two forty News Radio seven hundred WLW, Welcome

1598
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: back after the news. At the top of the hour,

1599
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Sterling is in to solve all of the world's problems

1600
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: inside of three hours and probably create a half dozen more.

1601
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that. I was listening to our newscast

1602
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: at two thirty. One of the things that to flush

1603
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: that story out about you, as he will pueague a

1604
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: little more and give it a little bit more local

1605
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: context than what we heard when he was running up

1606
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: these bets and they totaled two hundred and eighty thousand

1607
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: dollars over a few months. It was in twenty nineteen

1608
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: when this allegedly occurred, and authorities said that he placed

1609
01:28:54,479 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: at least nine hundred bets through a guy named Wayne

1610
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 2: Nicks who ran this illegal gambling operation. Wayne Nicks is

1611
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 2: a former minor league baseball player. But in any event,

1612
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: while all that was going on, Quig was playing for

1613
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: the Reds. It was traded mid season to the Cleveland Indians.

1614
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: Remember after that brawl between the Reds and the Pirates,

1615
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: and Puigue was like in the middle of it all.

1616
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: He was literally traded two hours after that. But the

1617
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: bets in contention with this conviction that Quig was handed

1618
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: to on Friday occurred while he played for the Reds

1619
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. He's going to be sentenced on May

1620
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 2: twenty six. He could face up to twenty years in

1621
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: a federal prison, not so much for illegal betting, but

1622
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 2: for misleading lying to if you will federal investigators. So

1623
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: a little bit more context to the story involving Yashiel Puigue.

1624
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is tomorrow. Of course, Seahawks is slight favorite

1625
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: you know what I like about Seattle is they know

1626
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: how to tackle. That is a defense that knows how

1627
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: to tackle. Obviously, that was a problem here with the

1628
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 2: Cincinnati defense, not just last year but the last several years,

1629
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: is tackling people. So Mike McDonald was asked, Yeah, how,

1630
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,879
Speaker 2: how how did you build that into a strength?

1631
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 12: You have to give just about all the credit to Chris.

1632
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Partridge, assistant coach.

1633
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 12: You know when when we were at Michigan after I

1634
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 12: left and I want to quote coach hardball here because

1635
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 12: I wasn't there, but basically created like a finished coach,

1636
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 12: and CP was there for that, and he had an

1637
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 12: idea of kind of building out a curriculum for us

1638
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 12: on how we want to finish plays and we ended

1639
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 12: up calling it eat effort, effort, angle and tackling, and

1640
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 12: CP is spearheaded that project from the day one. The

1641
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 12: guys love it and it's something we drill the fundamental

1642
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 12: of tackling and finishing every day. We do it as

1643
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 12: a team, we do it in our warm up before games.

1644
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 12: It's just kind of part of our DNA and the

1645
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 12: guys take a lot of pride in it. When it hits,

1646
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 12: you know, it's the way that you want it. It's

1647
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 12: powerful stuff, and when you don't hit it's it can

1648
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 12: get ugly. So the guys understand the importance of it

1649
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 12: and we take a lot of pride in it.

1650
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, they certainly know how to tackle, no question about that.

1651
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: They're a slight favorite. Now the big question is can

1652
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: you make some money tomorrow? If you are going to

1653
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 2: wager on this game and you know you are, who

1654
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 2: should you bet on? Not just the game, not just

1655
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: the line, not just the over under, but props prop betting.

1656
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: I've got some ideas about all of this. So does

1657
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 2: my next guest. He is the betting guru at Pro

1658
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: Footballfocus dot Com based right here in Cincinnati. He's Mason Cameron,

1659
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: and he's looking at some things you can win some

1660
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: denaro on tomorrow. Mason Cameron, how are you on? This

1661
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 2: is Saturday and I'm good.

1662
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 4: I'm good.

1663
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 7: I'm excited for the game here. We've got a lot

1664
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 7: going on. It's gonna be a good time.

1665
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great time. Now, listen, I've got

1666
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 2: some prop bets here. You can tell me how far

1667
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: off I am on these. And if I'm far off,

1668
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: don't feel like you got to hold back.

1669
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, sounds good.

1670
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jibbo one hundred plus yards at minus

1671
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: one ten, I'm thinking maybe that's a bet. Ten times

1672
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: in this past season, Old Jackson Smith JSN has gone

1673
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: over one hundred yards. I'm thinking this could be a

1674
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: big game for him. Walk me back on this one.

1675
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 7: So it's tough because I one hundred percent agree that

1676
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 7: when we look at some of his game scripts and

1677
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 7: how he's done in games, he's phenomenal. He's one of

1678
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 7: the best receivers in the league. If it wasn't for

1679
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 7: puk and Nakua over there in that division like it

1680
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 7: would be undoubted that he.

1681
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 11: Is the best receiver in the league.

1682
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 7: When it comes to market, it's really difficult to put

1683
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 7: a number like minus one ten on a line that's

1684
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 7: reaching upwards of one hundred yards. So it's one of

1685
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 7: those situations where, while he's extremely capable of a player,

1686
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 7: it's difficult to sort of recommend that as a bet

1687
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 7: in this market where so many different things can go wrong.

1688
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 7: A lot of things have to go right for him

1689
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 7: to reach a large number like that, So I would

1690
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 7: lean towards maybe not touching something like that and if

1691
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 7: you are leaning towards that capability of him really erupting

1692
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 7: in this game.

1693
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 11: There's other ways to sort of attack that.

1694
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 7: I would potentially go with a receptions line where you're

1695
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 7: getting a little bit more value that's going to come

1696
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 7: out a little bit lower over in about.

1697
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 11: The six and a half range.

1698
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 7: That's another spot where we've seen him really excel getting

1699
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 7: a lot of volume. He's one of the highest target

1700
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 7: rate receivers in the NFL, So I like something like that.

1701
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 7: I also really like the potential of him maybe even

1702
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 7: being named you know, super Bowl MVP out here with

1703
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 7: plus by fifty. I mean, we know that he's capable

1704
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 7: of putting up a really big stat line, and if

1705
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 7: he does hit that mark at plus by fifty, his

1706
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 7: opportunity to gain that award actually.

1707
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 11: Increases, which we've seen. It sort of takes one.

1708
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 7: Of those big plays we've seen for you know, a

1709
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 7: non quarterback to get the award.

1710
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 11: But I think he's definitely capable of doing that.

1711
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,879
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you're saying no to that, you'll probably

1712
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 2: say no to this. But I got Sam Darnald two

1713
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus yards passing at plus one fifty

1714
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: two that's a pretty good ROI return on investment. He's

1715
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: done that seven times this year, gone over two fifty.

1716
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 2: So if you're walking me back on JSN, you're walking

1717
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: me back on Donald too, right.

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01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 7: I mean slightly, But again it's sort of a similar thing.

1719
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 7: If not down to the capability of the player, it

1720
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 7: really comes down.

1721
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 11: To sort of what we see in game script between

1722
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 11: these two teams.

1723
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 7: Frankly, with this game, I'm a little bit more hesitant

1724
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 7: to play acting overs for Seattle for a couple of reasons,

1725
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 7: one of them being is that I think that they're

1726
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 7: going to actually be holding a fairly significant lead for

1727
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 7: most of this game. I know the line set at

1728
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 7: about four and a half. I think we see a

1729
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 7: bit more of a spread between these two teams in

1730
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 7: level of competition they've faced and how they've performed against

1731
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 7: that level of competition. I think that we're going to

1732
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 7: see a situation where, you know, the Seattle Seahawks, they're

1733
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,560
Speaker 7: a run heavy team. I don't think they're going to

1734
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 7: be pushed to throwing the ball quite as often. And

1735
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 7: I think what that situation is going to entail is

1736
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 7: that really they're just going to be up ahead and

1737
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 7: they're not going to need to throw quite as much.

1738
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 7: Now that's also a game script sort of play. From

1739
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 7: another standpoint, we talk about a player like Robert Splane

1740
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 7: on the Patriots defense. Now, their rushing splits really differ

1741
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 7: a lot when.

1742
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 11: He's on the field than when he's off the field.

1743
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:08,440
Speaker 7: Now, that's going to be one of the key injuries

1744
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 7: to watch as we get closer to this game. If

1745
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 7: he's going to be able to play, this Patriots defense

1746
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 7: is going to be in a better spot and that's

1747
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 7: going to funnel play into the passing game. But if

1748
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 7: he doesn't play, I think Seattle's going to be more

1749
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 7: than content running the football.

1750
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so if indeed we go with that line that

1751
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 2: Seattle's going to have the lead for most of this game.

1752
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 2: Here's another one. Again, it's an offensive number, but you

1753
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm crazy. Drake May over too twenty

1754
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 2: five and a half passing yards. This is at minus

1755
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: one ten. Now, look, Seattle is not you know, I mean,

1756
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: their defense is terrific. May has not been great in

1757
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but he had bad weather last week at Denver.

1758
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: He had a snowy day at Foxborough. A couple of

1759
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 2: weeks ago against the Chargers in the first round, two

1760
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards over to twenty five and

1761
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: a half fourteen times, and he hit to twenty two

1762
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: exactly one. So we're talking fifteen times that this guy

1763
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 2: has done that. So if indeed Seattle is going to

1764
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 2: have the ball or have the lead for most of

1765
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 2: this game, which means it may probably is throwing a

1766
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: little bit more than what he normally would over to

1767
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 2: twenty five and a half at minus one ten, I'm

1768
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: drooling over that one. Am I wrong?

1769
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 7: No, we like that as well. Our model shows a

1770
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 7: bit more of an edge on that. I would even

1771
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 7: bump that a little bit up because as I talked about,

1772
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 7: I think they're going to have to funnel, you know,

1773
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 7: attempts through the packing game. I like his even attempts

1774
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 7: over at thirty and a half. I think that they're

1775
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 7: going to have to throw the ball. And then when

1776
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 7: you talk about Drake May as a player in this

1777
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 7: offense and what we see in New England, they really

1778
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 7: do like to push the.

1779
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 11: Ball down the field.

1780
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 7: Now, Seattle make that difficult on teams, but one of

1781
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 7: the things that they have to their advantage is that

1782
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 7: Seattle funnels passes to tight ends two running backs, so

1783
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 7: I think you're going to see a good volume from

1784
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 7: Hunter Henry.

1785
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 11: Now, one of the ways that I'd like to build

1786
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 11: a potential SGP.

1787
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 7: Around this game is actually tying Drake May to Hunter Henry,

1788
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 7: and Hunter Henry's lines are at about three and a

1789
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 7: half receptions, three eight and a half receiving yards. I

1790
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 7: like some of those metrics tied together, So we're going

1791
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 7: to see a correlation in that. When we talk about Seattle,

1792
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 7: their bottom five and tied in receiving yard or receptions

1793
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 7: and yardage. So I think that we're going to see

1794
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 7: that situation. And another angle to potentially look at is

1795
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 7: the running backs in the receiving game as well. We've

1796
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 7: seen Ramandre Stevenson. He's been highly involved down this playoff run.

1797
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 7: I'm not really quite sure why they've moved away from

1798
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 7: Trayvon Henderson, such an explosive player. This might be a

1799
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 7: situation where we see that regrets back to the means

1800
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 7: and they get or they get Henderson a little bit

1801
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 7: more involved. And I really like his numbers. In a

1802
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 7: lot of this game, you can get over one and

1803
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 7: a half reception at like plus three fifty that's a

1804
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 7: really big number for number that's not that hard for

1805
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 7: a guy of his talent to hit. It's really just

1806
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 7: going to be how much he's involved in the game plan.

1807
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 7: I could see them sort of throwing that curve ball

1808
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 7: in there. But yet, long story short, I do like

1809
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 7: the potential of some Drake may yardage there.

1810
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 2: And you were just talking about Henderson, right, not Stevenson.

1811
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 7: I like both of them, but the prices on Henderson,

1812
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 7: considering he's been less involved over this playoff run, are

1813
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 7: very juicy.

1814
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1815
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's had no touchdowns in the last

1816
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 2: three and only two in the five prior to that,

1817
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: and Stevenson has been the go to guy. You can

1818
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 2: get Stevenson, I think right now to score a touchdown

1819
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 2: at any time at plus one sixty and he hasn't

1820
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 2: had any in the last three games, but he had

1821
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: four in the previous three. I mean, you're right. I

1822
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 2: think if you look at situations for Stevenson and Henderson,

1823
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: you're going to find good value in there, either in

1824
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 2: attempts or yards or touchdown and whatnot. That could be

1825
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 2: a focal point over everything else we just talked about.

1826
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, because I mean when we talk about. Now,

1827
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 7: Seattle is a very good team against the run. That's

1828
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 7: going to be a big situation in this game where

1829
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 7: it is going to funnel to the passing game. But

1830
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 7: we've Seenmandre Stevenson. I mean, he's been catching some wheel

1831
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 7: routes for they'd like to target him down the field

1832
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 7: in the passing game, which is something you wouldn't necessarily expect.

1833
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 11: But also we know about.

1834
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 7: Treyvon Henderson explosive with the ball in his hands. I

1835
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised to see them try to get him

1836
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 7: involved with a couple of design screens, let him get

1837
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 7: out into some space. I definitely see that being a

1838
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 7: situation now. The big thing, like I said, is the

1839
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 7: volume and how much.

1840
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 11: Of the snapshare we're seeing from each of them.

1841
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 7: So far, it has been a lot of Stevenson, but

1842
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 7: the prices also indicate that I think that you're going

1843
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 7: to see a lot of value in some Henderson.

1844
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we're chatting with Mason cam profootballfocus dot com. This

1845
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,320
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1846
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Speaker 2: want to make some de naro. What is your favorite

1847
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: prop that you see out there right now?

1848
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 7: I'm really loving what we're going to see from Hunter Henry.

1849
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 7: I alluded to it earlier, but I think three and

1850
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 7: a half receptions thirty eight and a half receiving yards.

1851
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 11: Is a really good number for them.

1852
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 7: Particularly we talk about what Seattle likes to run as

1853
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 7: a defense. We talk about that they funnel targets to

1854
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 7: tight ends. They have one of the highest tight end

1855
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,799
Speaker 7: target rates in the NFL. And when we look at

1856
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 7: Patriots path catchers, verse zone coverages, which Seattle runs a lot,

1857
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 7: Hunter Henry's the highest grated among them, So I like

1858
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 7: him to get really involved. At thirty eight and a

1859
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 7: half receiving yards, it tends to be sort of on

1860
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 7: the middle to upper tier of those production lines that

1861
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 7: we see from tight ends, but we've seen them give

1862
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 7: up them being Seattle. We've seen Seattle give up fifty

1863
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 7: plus to tight ends over the last two games. So

1864
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 7: I like to intel there.

1865
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 2: For Hunter Henry Mason, stay well, and you know we'll

1866
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 2: be in touch, So please answer the phone. Okay, absolutely,

1867
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: thanks you bet well, good luck to you. If you're wagering.

1868
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 2: We'll get into more of that tomorrow on Sunday Morning

1869
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Sports Talk beginning at nine a m. And a myriad

1870
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 2: of other things too, a Hanio Souarez back with the Rids.

1871
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 2: That'll be one of the topics. More super Bowl stuff,

1872
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: and uh, I'm going there's there are. I don't often

1873
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 2: do books, but there's a great book that's out about

1874
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll and that may shed some light on why

1875
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks are where they are right now tonight

1876
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 2: on the evil playing four and if you believe the

1877
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 2: odds makers winning yet another Super Bowl till then, stay

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