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Speaker 3: Some say, no idea, what's you know what?

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Speaker 2: Neither to what Happy Wednesday? Brian Thomas right here, glad

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Speaker 2: to be and glad to see Joe streck Ory belongs

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Speaker 2: and glad to see the rundown this morning on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: That means seven o five The Big Picture with Jack Adverton,

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Speaker 2: Always love him and Jack on the show today. Democrats

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Speaker 2: and the Power of Pain. Of course, I think you

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Speaker 2: can read into what that's all about, bringing the government

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Speaker 2: get a win in terms of what they want. But again,

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Speaker 2: say what you want about the Continuing Resolution maintaining funding

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Speaker 2: at twenty twenty four levels. I understand why Congressman Massey

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Speaker 2: wasn't happy about that, but ultimately it strategically did work out.

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Speaker 2: The Republicans held fast. They had no the Democrats really

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Speaker 2: think the Democrats woke up with that reality. Why was

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Speaker 2: there the end of the supplements at the end of

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Speaker 2: this year. Democrats, that's right, one hundred percent. Democrats voted

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Speaker 2: for that. They knew, they knew that they were going

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Speaker 2: to win the presidency. That's where that came from. There

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Speaker 2: is no doubt in their minds. And maybe you look

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Speaker 2: at Arctic Frost and other of the all the other

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Speaker 2: lettered agencies undermining Donald Trump and making things up and

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Speaker 2: trying to convince the American people that he was something

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Speaker 2: or as something that he's not. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: the bottom line, you voted for Donald Trump overwhelmingly. And

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Speaker 2: of course those deadlines that the Democrats put in the

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Speaker 2: legislation didn't go anywhere. It's law. Just find the circumstances

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Speaker 2: shrining this whole shutdown just be quite comical anyway. And remember,

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Speaker 2: in voting for Donald Trump, you voted for those subsidies

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Speaker 2: was not what drove them to the polls. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump did not campaign on extending the supplements for Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: So if you'd taken the time to look at that reality,

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Speaker 2: But one can only logically and reasonably conclude that one

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Speaker 2: must assume that every American voter knows everything about the

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Speaker 2: outcome of the election and what that might mean. A

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Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump certainly was not going to result

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Speaker 2: in the extension of expansion of or Obamacare, most notably

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Speaker 2: with those benefits going to illegal immigrants. So anyhow, they

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Speaker 2: bring on the pain because of what they brought about,

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Speaker 2: and that pain obviously was the result of Democrats action. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you can't get your airline flight and those are

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Speaker 2: make sure you just don't pull your finger at Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump because it would be unlogical, illogical, and unreasonable. There

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Speaker 2: T phones. Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity during an

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Speaker 2: empower Youse seminar tomorrow night, beginning at seven pm. Ohio

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Speaker 2: needs a reset. Too many governments. That's the topic of

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Speaker 2: Donovan and Neilis we always hear from at seven thirty

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. That's happening today Adam Hardage, former CIA

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Speaker 2: former CIA operations officer, nationally recognized voice on leadership, national security,

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Speaker 2: He speaks a lot on things today on the Morning show,

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Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, Judge enal Paula Tana reill be a controversial discussion.

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Speaker 2: Can the president disrupt speech? That's the title of his

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Speaker 2: he I think maybe overstates the designation because I counter

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Speaker 2: find the words. Have said that Antifa is an ideology,

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Speaker 2: my questions and Napolitanic God Brian wake up, because I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there are people of communist Marxist ideology who support

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Speaker 2: and praise what Antifa is doing. Those people would be

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Speaker 2: speaking their mind and engaging in free speech. But if

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Speaker 2: Of course, political speech is the most protected speech, so

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Speaker 2: you got to kind of blur the line between, you know,

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Speaker 2: of Antifa, That to me is really no different than

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Speaker 2: But if that were not true, an Antifa organized and

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Speaker 2: Under my factual scenarios I presented it, the mafia not

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Speaker 2: The distinction gets a little bit complicated though, again when

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Speaker 2: you go back to what antiphile wants, which is under

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Speaker 2: the banner of a political philosophy implicating the First Amendment.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Gambino crime family can't claim First Amendment

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And unfortunately, you still have people out there

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Speaker 2: Of itself, you know, And that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: And if you want to go out and buy funions

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Speaker 4: seven to eleven and getting a bottle of popping a

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Speaker 4: bag of funyions like Gayla. It was part of my

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Speaker 4: nutritious breakfast. There might be a reason why I'm fat today.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, just going to go anyway. As always, people,

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Speaker 4: when you when you talk to your friends and neighbors

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Speaker 4: and you want to explain things to them about why

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Speaker 4: this Democrat stuff isn't working and you want to like

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Speaker 4: let them know what's wrong with it, make sure you

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Speaker 4: finish my saying, don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tom, appreciate the uh taking the weight off my

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Speaker 2: shoulders at five point thirty. Almost every single day could

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Speaker 2: hear from you. You know what I tell you. Don't

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Speaker 2: have to give Tom the five point thirty segment. Anybody

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Speaker 2: can call on the program five on three seven two

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Speaker 2: three talking Now. I'm a desperate but I do enjoy

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Speaker 2: the debate and the discussion in the exchange because I

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily have all the ideas to talk about in

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Speaker 2: front of me. I have to pick them. Maybe there's

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Speaker 2: something you'd like to discuss. I will discuss these stack

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Speaker 2: has stupid coming up next in the an absence of

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Speaker 2: phone calls. But right now I want to mention, since

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Speaker 2: we're tune laughing about a couple of Joe Strekkers' editorial

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Speaker 2: comments on some of the articles that he printed out.

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Speaker 2: Dude dodged a bullet Joe Strecker's assessment of this stack

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Speaker 2: of stupid article with which I agree completely. Thirty four

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Speaker 2: year old woman who was dumped after ten years of

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Speaker 2: dating says she's looking for financial compensation from her ex

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Speaker 2: boyfriend for stealing her child bearing years. Person Writing on

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Speaker 2: Telegraphs Money Moral Monday Advice column, she thinks the boyfriend

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Speaker 2: should now pay for her IVF or egg fertilizing after

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Speaker 2: he broke up with her. Woman wrote, he tells me

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Speaker 2: he feels at thirty eight is though he still has

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Speaker 2: a decade of enjoying his lifestyle and powering through with

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Speaker 2: his career, and he's not ready for marriage and children,

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Speaker 2: but he knows it has become a priority for me,

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Speaker 2: So he is off here. I am at thirty four

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Speaker 2: eggs twitching ready for the marriage and parenthood's stage of life,

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Speaker 2: but unexpectedly single and emotionally devastated. I'm tipping into the

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Speaker 2: furious phase of the grief cycle because I feel as

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Speaker 2: though he owes me big time, and I want him

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Speaker 2: to pay.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: She had made some careers choice sacrifices to accommodate her

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Speaker 2: ex's ambitions. She claims they verbally agreed that he would

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Speaker 2: be the primary earner if they have children. Notably, that

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Speaker 2: never happened. She said, now I feel like these compromises

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Speaker 2: have left me vulnerable, and I'm seeking compensation. Surely he

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Speaker 2: should have some responsibility for helping me mitigate the damages

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Speaker 2: to our plans caused by his change of heart and

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Speaker 2: broken promises. The columnists, it's like a dear abby thing.

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Speaker 2: It's important to shift your mindset from seeking compensation from

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Speaker 2: him to investing in your own resilience IVF and egg freezing.

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Speaker 2: You are expensive, and it is natural to feel he

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Speaker 2: should contribute since you shared life choices of your timing.

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Speaker 2: But if he's unwilling, the legal system will not force

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Speaker 2: him exactly, of course, inviting speculation. Why hewse she waited

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Speaker 2: around ten years for him to move forward, defecate or

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Speaker 2: get off the receptacle. That might have been a conversation

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Speaker 2: you might want to have with him. Yeah, he made

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Speaker 2: your bad. You lie in it. You missed an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Had ten years to move forward with that one. You didn't.

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Speaker 2: Michigan teenager hospitalized after with a punctured lung after being

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Speaker 2: stabbed by a forty year old woman at a kid's

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Speaker 2: foot locker store. Why because the woman thought the girl

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Speaker 2: called her broke after her credit card declined at the

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Speaker 2: cash register. Nineteen year old Sunnya Jenkins said she was

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Speaker 2: stabbed multiple times in the sneaker store. This in Taylor, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: happened November fifth. Court to police, forty year old woman

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Speaker 2: was checking out of cash register when her card declined

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Speaker 2: and someone called her a broke b word. Jenkins said

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Speaker 2: she was merely passing the store and looked in when

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Speaker 2: she saw the woman yelling. She said she never insulted

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Speaker 2: the woman, but the woman turned her eye on the

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Speaker 2: teenager and started arguing with her or with her Corda Jenkins.

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Speaker 2: As the argument got verbal, she put her hand in

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Speaker 2: her purse and proceeded to tell me she was gonna

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Speaker 2: shoot me. I did not see her even know I

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Speaker 2: was stabbed until after the physical altercation. She the woman

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Speaker 2: pulled out a kitchen knife from her purse, stabbed her

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Speaker 2: twice in the neck and once in her stomach and

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Speaker 2: once in her thigh, resulting in her lung being punctured

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Speaker 2: in the attack. Suspect arrested at the mall. Charges the

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Speaker 2: expect to be filed. Authorities also said that this stabby

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Speaker 2: woman's children were with her at the time of the stabbing.

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Speaker 6: Just away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where keeping it real goes wrong. I guess didn't

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Speaker 2: respect me or something. Yeah, let's just stab a random

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Speaker 2: teenager for a random comment. It's five point forty six

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Speaker 2: and fifty five kerse. The talk station covers cent back

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Speaker 2: to the stacker. Stupid. I appreciate this one, Joe Strecker.

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Speaker 2: There's really nothing to it beyond the announcement. Christine Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: daughter of Yes Nancy Pelosi, who announced her plans to retire,

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Speaker 2: is going to run for office. It's pretty much it

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Speaker 2: do what the heck? What's her platform? I'm running to

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Speaker 2: represent you San Francisco in Sacramento, fighting for consumer rights,

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Speaker 2: women's rights, gun violence, survivors, immigrants, and our most vulnerable communities.

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Speaker 2: There's your campaign platform right now. Isn't it scary that

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Speaker 2: someone can run just based on that name recognition, and

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Speaker 2: that Pelosi name may very well get her elected, notwithstanding

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Speaker 2: whether or not she's qualified. Walmart isition to statement after

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Speaker 2: the company was criticized for selling a T shirt and

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Speaker 2: a hoodie on its website featuring a graphic resembling a

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Speaker 2: Nazi slo T shirt and hoodie featured a graphic that

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Speaker 2: read white our paper beats rock. Fairly innocuous statement until

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Speaker 2: you see the T shirt, which is a flat palm,

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Speaker 2: you know, a Nazi salute which is towering over the

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Speaker 2: Black Power fist. Notably, the T shirt depicts a white

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Speaker 2: Nazi salute hand and the Black power fist. Sorry how

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Speaker 2: this made into Walmart's I have no idea, in spite

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Speaker 2: of the fact that they sold these pieces online and

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Speaker 2: I guess at the Walmart. We have zero tolerance for

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Speaker 2: any prohibited defensive products appearing in our marketplace. The items question,

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Speaker 2: we're listed by a third party seller and have been

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Speaker 2: removed from our site for violating our prohibited products policy.

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Speaker 2: When issues like this are identified, that's the That's the

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Speaker 2: big point in the sentence. And I think in the

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Speaker 2: announcement when they are identified after we've made a bunch

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Speaker 2: of profit before being identified to our tour, being brought

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Speaker 2: to our attention, then we act immediately to remove them

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Speaker 2: and strengthen our systems to protect a reoccurrence. So sorry,

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Speaker 2: your apparent Nazi white power t shirts are no longer

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Speaker 2: available at Walmike Walmart. Local boy made it into the

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Speaker 2: stack of stupid. Thanks Joe Greater. Since Saint Dad Amen

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Speaker 2: accused of downing twelve drinks at grandma's house and then

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Speaker 2: driving his wife and his three children nearly hitting a

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Speaker 2: police cruiser West Kemper Road at Northland Boulevard, Springdale. And

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Speaker 2: this is on Sunday Court to the police, Affidavid Ami

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Speaker 2: car amial car. Here's a new one for me. Hey

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Speaker 2: Amalkar Ramirez Reno so thirty one years old, more than

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Speaker 2: three times the legal limit. Cord to the Affidavid, his

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Speaker 2: wife and three children in the car had he had

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Speaker 2: twelve drinks at their grandmother's house. The driver was taken

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Speaker 2: to the police department where he provided a breath sample

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Speaker 2: of zero point two one children seven, eight, and nine

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Speaker 2: years old. According to the criminal complaints, he's arrested on

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Speaker 2: several counts of obi and dangering children as well as

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Speaker 2: obstructing official business. Now facing also multiple traffic offenses, including

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Speaker 2: driving under suspension and improper backing phrasing. Looked into the

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Speaker 2: Hamlin Kind of Justice Center. Sunday held overnight was nine pm.

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Speaker 2: Roughly he was scheduled to appear in court this past Monday.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what happened to Ramirez Reinoso. Something tells me

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Speaker 2: he may have worked a plea deal where they got

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Speaker 2: they dropped the improper backing charge phrasing, just left the

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Speaker 2: other ones. Oh you think that's what happened in prison.

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Speaker 2: So he's charged with improper backing. And let's just say

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Speaker 2: that my scenario did actually play out, because quite often

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Speaker 2: prosecutors will drop lesser offenses in order to get a

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Speaker 2: guilty plea on the bigger offenses. So they drop out

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Speaker 2: improper backing. He cops a plea the OVI and then

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Speaker 2: he still gets the improper backing. That's the way Joe

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Speaker 2: Drecker sees it. That's why we're gonna call it this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's five fifty five. It's desperate comedy right there. I

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Speaker 2: will acknowledge plenty to talk about coming up oh in

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Speaker 2: addition taking the weight off of me. At six thirty,

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Speaker 2: bring him account from the Hudson Institute, the host of

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Speaker 2: Charged Conversations. He apparently on his way to the airport

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Speaker 2: and had some topics he wanted to talk about. Brigham

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Speaker 2: brilliant he is, and I welcome him on the morning

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Speaker 2: show that'll take place at six thirty. Between now and then,

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Speaker 2: we have other things to talk about, including how about

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Speaker 2: making Ohio as competitive as Texas? Now? Is that? A

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Speaker 2: whole lot more coming up? I hope you don't go away.

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Speaker 1: Today's tough headlines coming up first?

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Speaker 2: And do you Charge Conversations? Joe brig him accowns Charge

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Speaker 2: Conversations podcast. He knows everything there is to know about

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Speaker 2: energy policy and I love him and bring him on

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Speaker 2: the program. And Brigham called in in the last hour

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Speaker 2: said hey, uh, I'll call him at six thirty. Got

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Speaker 2: some things to talk about. So Brigham joins the program

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Speaker 2: from the Hudson Institute and host the Charge Conversations podcast

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Speaker 2: produced Hi Joetracker, executive producer for the fifty five Casey

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Speaker 2: Morning Show. You know how to get in touch with

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Speaker 2: Joe same way you get in touch with me. Five, one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 2: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to

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Speaker 2: three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phone.

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Speaker 2: Fast forward a one hour at a Big Picture with

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Speaker 2: Jack Adadan Democrats and the power of pain. As I

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Speaker 2: always get a kick out of a Jack, brilliant man.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 2: Something tells me he's going to bring history into the

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Speaker 2: discussion because the historian he is. Donovan and Neil Americans

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Speaker 2: for prosperity about ending the shutdown. There's an empower youse

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Speaker 2: seminar taking place tomorrow night, seven pm with Donovan and'eil.

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Speaker 2: Ohio needs a reset, and I alluded to the fact that,

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Speaker 2: you know, how can we make Ohio more competitive? Steve,

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Speaker 2: I'll get your call just a second. I saw Texas man.

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Speaker 2: They are on a roll as we consider whether or

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Speaker 2: not we're going to eradicate property taxes in our constitution,

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Speaker 2: ballot petition circulating around to be on the ballot next year. Presumably,

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Speaker 2: what will that mean for the state of Ohio with

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Speaker 2: no property taxes? Big question? Mark. I just kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of get excited and grin about the

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Speaker 2: prospects of our elected officials having to deal with the

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Speaker 2: aftermath of eliminating the property tax. I'm more interested in

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Speaker 2: what kind of chaos is going to follow that and

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Speaker 2: how they plan on ironing it out, since they think

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Speaker 2: they know inelected capacity more than you and I know. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: other states don't have property taxes. I think Jay's the

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Speaker 2: one that calls in regularly to point that out. But

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Speaker 2: over in Texas, voters approved three pro business tax amendments

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Speaker 2: to the Texas Constitution. From this point forward, Texas can

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Speaker 2: never impose taxes on capital gains a states, or inheritance,

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Speaker 2: as well as certain securities transactions. They didn't even have

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Speaker 2: those in place. But now the constitutional amendment is this

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Speaker 2: big giant red flat or you know, big giant banner

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Speaker 2: of open for business to the rest of the world,

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Speaker 2: most notably all the businesses now considering leaving New York.

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Speaker 2: Come in here. Water's fine, and we'll never go after

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Speaker 2: your capital gains taxes or estate or inheritances. We can't

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Speaker 2: do it even if we want to. It's in the constitution.

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Speaker 2: They would have to vote to change the constitution again.

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Speaker 2: So what an amazing thing. And they've got a budget

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Speaker 2: surplus already without any of these taxes in place. And

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Speaker 2: some are saying, whoa, what happens we' down the road

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Speaker 2: you know we're going to have when they're like, we'll

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00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: screw that. We're doing so well business wise, we have

647
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: so many people in businesses moving into the state. We're

648
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: generating so much revenue and taxes already. We'll never need them.

649
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: And if you put them in place, it's going to

650
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: be a big roadblock for folks. Maybe considering Texas as

651
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: opposed to one of the other competitive states, like oh

652
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: maybe Florida can. If Ohio is more like Texas and Florida,

653
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: might we get some of the businesses that are fleeing

654
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: New York. Big question. Now's the time to figure that

655
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: kind of crap out, Steve, Welcome to the show. Thank

656
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: you so much for calling today. Happy Wednesday, Yes, sir,

657
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: First of.

658
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: All, enjoy your four day weekend coming out SAT.

659
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

660
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll miss you on Friday and Monday, but

661
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: it's just wonderful.

662
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: For you to be I can't thank you enough for

663
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: wishing me well. I really really really need a couple

664
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: of days off. I just it's been a while since

665
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: I had any vacation time, and woe is me? What

666
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: Thomas you shouldn't talk for four hours. Psychologically, I don't

667
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: care how you would approach the show, but psychological, for me,

668
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: this is a weight on my shoulders. Twenty four hours

669
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week. I want to do

670
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: well for my listeners. I feel I owe it to them,

671
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: and I really take the job seriously. So there are

672
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: days when my brain's a little bit foggy and I

673
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: sit here and I think, oh my god, I'm not

674
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: quite delivering well. I kind of been in that mode

675
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: now for a little while, suggesting I really need a

676
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: few days off. So hopefully I'll be much more refreshed

677
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: on Tuesday when I come back. And Gary Jeff's going

678
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: to cover for me on Friday, and Dan Carroll's got

679
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: me on Monday, So both of those guys, you're going

680
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: to be in great hands. But thank you so much, Steve.

681
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 7: Those are two excellent hosts to fill in for you.

682
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 7: I wrote it by Gary Jeff Walker. I listened to

683
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 7: him on Saturdays because I'm three years older than you.

684
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 7: Have told you this before, but there's no reason for

685
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 7: you to remember this. I retired from full time work

686
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 7: eighteen months ago, immediately started doing menial work three days

687
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 7: a week, and that involves driving around, delivering and listening

688
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 7: to the radio. So I listened to you and and

689
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 7: I mean I always tell people when I delivered to

690
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: their house. Hey, you know, I'm a talk radio junkie.

691
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: They're paying me to listen to the radio, which is

692
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: what I'd be doing at home anyway. And I beat

693
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 7: nice people.

694
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: And d d well be careful out there driving around, Steve,

695
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: because you got new speed humps for the tune of

696
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars on Gilbert. I guess, so there's one

697
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: of the.

698
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: Red I live.

699
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 7: I live in Independence, Kentucky, and my driving is limited

700
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 7: to Kentucky and Indiana. Have us go into Ohio.

701
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Just throwing a shot at the City of Cincinnati for

702
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: putting in more speed humps. But anyway to Steve.

703
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 7: Okay, yesterday listened to Jeffrey Pastor, and I remember listening

704
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 7: to him. I guess when he was initially running for

705
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: counsel and when when and when he was on counsel.

706
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 7: I forgot how well spoken he is. He he did

707
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 7: himself quite a favor by, you know, coming on the

708
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 7: show and talking for a half hour. Very articulate, very

709
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 7: well spoken. Everybody deserves a second chance. I really enjoyed

710
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: listening to him, so kudos to him. Got a you

711
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 7: know this happened to me last time I called you

712
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 7: to I forget what else I was going to talk about,

713
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: because you're talking about you know, New York and stuff

714
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 7: and Texas. But oh, here's what it was. The other

715
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 7: day you talked about over the weekend, you went over

716
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 7: a friend's house for dinner. How do you how do

717
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 7: you incorporate your sugar free diet when you when you're

718
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 7: in the situation like that, do they.

719
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't know. I don't ask anyone to

720
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: make diet accommodations for me. Ever, I don't even if

721
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: we're invite it over some place we know, period, end

722
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: of story. There's quite often there is no problem maintaining

723
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: a diet without being insulting to your host, while still

724
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: staying within the guidelines of the diet. Fortunately, I allow

725
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: some measure of flexibility. So while I say I cut

726
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: completely all sugar out of my diet, I will eat

727
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: half a cookie or something if someone bait homemade cookies,

728
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't have to indulge in a full slice of

729
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: cake or pie. Dinner. Was you know protein and everything

730
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: like that can eat that. Maybe I just avoid eating

731
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: the potatoes if they're served or something. So yeah, it's

732
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: no big deal. And if somebody's scratching their head wondering

733
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: why you're not eating the food they prepared for you,

734
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: to say, listen, I'm on a restricted diet, don't be insulted.

735
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to take care of my health. So

736
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: I think most people are really reasonable about that kind

737
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: of thing.

738
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Speaker 7: You got to live your life.

739
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Too, Amen, brother, Amen, thank you. I appreciate that. I

740
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: really do. Side Jim Keefer, good to hear from you,

741
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: my friend. As always, Good morning, Brian.

742
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 8: He had listened to Jeff Pastor was on making a

743
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 8: round yesterday on Channel nine and Channel twelve headliner at

744
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 8: six o'clock. So he's he's throwing his thing with his

745
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 8: Pardon Pastor shirt on.

746
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he had that shirt on and he

747
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: gave it it's his pardon past And I wasn't really

748
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: quite looking at that. I was just looking at the

749
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: number that was below it, and I said, is that

750
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: your prison number? That's my pardon petition number. It's his

751
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: pardon petition number.

752
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 8: Oh geez, I thought that was.

753
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: His inmate number at the Federal lockoy.

754
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 8: I did too. Now, I'm glad you cleared out one.

755
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: Of Well you brought it up. Since it's radio, no

756
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: one got to see what it says. He had to

757
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: watch him on Channel nine, I guess.

758
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 8: But yeah, exactly.

759
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: I thought he was wearing it almost as a badge

760
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: of pride or something which would seem very inconsistent with

761
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: his current message about it having been rehabilitated.

762
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 8: I do hear Steve on Saturdays with Gary Jeff. He

763
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 8: does a great job.

764
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that.

765
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 8: By the way, Gary Jeff's wife has cancer again.

766
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: Prayers, prayers.

767
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 8: It's a different kind of cancer. It's it's it is

768
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 8: breast cancer. He doesn't mind. He talked about it on

769
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 8: the air. Okay, all right, but it's it's in the

770
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 8: other side and it's two they found two marks. Oh,

771
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 8: so they're going to do They said it shouldn't be

772
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 8: so bad.

773
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: So I hope that is the case. And the one

774
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: thing that I've learned over the years with my cancer struggles,

775
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: and I know you know this with your cancer struggles,

776
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: one thing we all know cancer sucks. It's one thing

777
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: we can all uniformly agree on, but that what used

778
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: to be and pretty much a death sentence. They have

779
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: made so many steps towards you know, curing can breast cancer,

780
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: and you catch it early enough, it no longer is

781
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: necessarily a death sentence. I know one size does not

782
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: fit all with cancer diagnosis, but at least it's not

783
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: that oh my god, I got to start getting my

784
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: affairs together kind of thing. So prayers nonetheless for everybody

785
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: out there struggling with cancer, including you, Jim Keefer.

786
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, cancer sucks. But the real reason I called you,

787
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 8: Brian is that text I sent you yesterday. I seriously

788
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 8: think that this because of the city Council is basically

789
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 8: didn't change. I seriously think O street.

790
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: Car, Jim Keefer, you got to say exactly what the

791
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: text related to, which is leg two of the street Car.

792
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Did you hear that they're actually going to move forward

793
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: with something like that, because I have not heard that

794
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: except from.

795
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 8: You, No, But I know it's going to come.

796
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 6: I know it.

797
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 8: I next time I see Jeff Kramerty, because I do

798
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 8: know him, I'm going to ask him if that thing's

799
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 8: been brought up. I seriously think they're going to do

800
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 8: that because they've got nothing else to put a mark

801
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 8: on for this council in town. I mean, they've already

802
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 8: screwed up all the roads.

803
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: What about speed bumps on Gilbert? Can't they hang their

804
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: hat and show that as progress or something?

805
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 8: I don't know how I like to see how many

806
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 8: people actually travel Gilbert to put that kind of money

807
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 8: into it. I you know, I've been on Gilbert and

808
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a main thoroughfare all day that

809
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 8: you've got to have that kind of How.

810
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Many speed how many speed bumps do you get for

811
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars?

812
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: Oh?

813
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean there's enough of the Warsaw

814
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 8: and Glen Way and Dell High Pike and YadA, YadA, YadA.

815
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 8: It's a go to Chiviot. Oh you talk about speed humps?

816
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 8: My god, you know Shivo it's one square mile and

817
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 8: I'll bet you, I bet you there's fifteen speed humps

818
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 8: on Harrison Avenue going up through Chiviot.

819
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: Wow, it's ridiculous.

820
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: It is certainly ridiculous.

821
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 8: I seriously think that they're gonna they're gonna approach this

822
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 8: and they're gonna find the money, of course, and you

823
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 8: watch you give them time to settle in and get

824
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 8: sworn they're not even sworn in, so you give them

825
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 8: time to get sworn in and move into the springtime

826
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 8: and all this kind of stuff.

827
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: And which the exception of one council member and nothing's

828
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: holding them back from doing anything. Swearing in is only

829
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: going to result in one person change on uncounts one

830
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: more Democrats.

831
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 8: Well we're all going to get sworn into.

832
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but it's just moving forward with status quo.

833
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 2: But yeah, now, okay, here's more of a rhetorical question

834
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: or anything. Will Phase two of the streetcar project be

835
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: deemed existing infrastructure changes so they could tap into the

836
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: railroad money.

837
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 8: That's a great question. That's a great question. But you

838
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 8: mark my words on today's date that I brought this

839
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 8: up because I my foil hat I put that away

840
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 8: last Tuesday. I seriously think that they're going to talk

841
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 8: about bringing out number two.

842
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, it'll only give Dave Williams and the taxpayer protection

843
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: and I lions and I one more thing to chuckle about.

844
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 8: And you know, Bryant, number two is kind of a

845
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 8: real kind of a tongue in cheek laughter thing when

846
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 8: you talk about a streetcar, truecard number two.

847
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: There you have it. We'll leave it at that one.

848
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: Jim Keefer, appreciate the call and prayers for you too

849
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: as well. At All Cancer Struggles six nineteen fifty five

850
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: KRSCT talk station got more callers coming in and of

851
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: course bottom of the are with Brig McCown from the

852
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: six fifty five KRCD talk station, Happy Wednesday. Before I

853
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: get a Bobby's call, I just real quick here, mayre

854
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: have parvoll now refocusing the curfew six pm curfew proposed

855
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: for juveniles around Fountain Square on hold, moving over to

856
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Short Vine in Coryville where they are planning on putting

857
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: a curfew there. Now whether this curfew starts at six

858
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: nine eleven, there's a bunch of different times. It is

859
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: a bit confusing. That was one of the things. Council

860
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: Member Mark Jeffries wonders if the curfews will confuse people

861
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: because I think you need to be clear to people

862
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: what the rules are at what they are not a

863
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Speaker 2: little tough for people to follow nine pm here, eleven

864
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Speaker 2: pm there at six pm here. I think we need

865
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Speaker 2: one clear set of rules. Hey, I find myself in agreement,

866
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Speaker 2: which is rarely happening. With council member Mark Jefferies. Bobby,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the program. Happy Wednesday, Happy hump day, my brother,

868
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Speaker 2: oh Gilbert Avenue, because they got some seventeen million dollars

869
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Speaker 2: worth of new humps.

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Speaker 6: Well, i'll tell you what about it. Don't take off

871
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: the vacation time. You're the tip of the spear.

872
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Speaker 5: We need you.

873
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Speaker 6: There's too much going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that tip's gonna fall off and die if

875
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Speaker 2: you don't get some vacation from time to time. Bobby,

876
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your praise in that regard. Maybe a bit overstated,

877
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Speaker 2: I will quickly point out, but everybody needs an exhil

878
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Speaker 2: and arrest every once in a while.

879
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Speaker 6: Well, you're leading the media charge here on a little thing.

880
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Speaker 6: It may be exposing the salt coup that we've been

881
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Speaker 6: investigating for the last four and a half years, and

882
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Speaker 6: it may go right into a black Swan event. You

883
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Speaker 6: got an awful good guest coming up in the eight

884
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Speaker 6: o'clock hour, Adam Hardage.

885
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Speaker 2: Yep, former CIA ops officer. He's going to give us

886
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Speaker 2: the latest on the J six pipe bombing investigations, which

887
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Speaker 2: I think maybe it was you who brought it up

888
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Speaker 2: the other day about that video they have which I

889
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: think they've traced at least they believe they have traced

890
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Speaker 2: to a member of the Capitol Police. And wouldn't that

891
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Speaker 2: be interesting.

892
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Speaker 6: Well, it's a lot deeper and deeper than that, you know,

893
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Speaker 6: I'd say it's exposing the Salt coup because I'm questioning

894
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Speaker 6: a lot of different things. There are a lot of

895
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Speaker 6: things I do know, and the only thing we did

896
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Speaker 6: know was the identity of the suspect. We know now

897
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Speaker 6: And I tell you what I'd like to know, what

898
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Speaker 6: three of that are Intel Agency recruiser.

899
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Speaker 2: Well, of course i'd like to I'm looking forward to

900
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Speaker 2: getting all the information about Arctic frost too. I mean,

901
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: that's a well coordinated effort under min Donald Trump, and

902
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's at least with the Trump administration.

903
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: This stuff is being exposed and I'm not going to

904
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Speaker 2: ever be knee jerk reaction and reaching conclusions about any

905
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Speaker 2: of it. But longer you wait, the more the information

906
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Speaker 2: comes out, the more the puzzle pieces fit together, you'll

907
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Speaker 2: ultimately have a complete picture. And so far the direction

908
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: at that picture or the completed picture is looking. It

909
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: is terrible for us collectively as Americans. It's terrible for

910
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Speaker 2: the credibility of the US government, which furthers division. Right,

911
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: this is one of them. Maybe this is the goal

912
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Speaker 2: they do this kind of thing, Bobby, They intentionally coordinate

913
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Speaker 2: these activities. It comes out, and then we lose faith

914
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Speaker 2: in the FBI, the Department of Justice, maybe the CIA.

915
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But if I lose faith in these

916
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Speaker 2: institutions that I used to look up to, like the FBI,

917
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Speaker 2: for example, I always thought, YEAHBI, they're looking out for us,

918
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: they're all true patriots. Well guess what, maybe not. So

919
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: there's one less reason to trust your government. Now that

920
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: is not for me a problem because we put too

921
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: much faith in trust in government. We give them too

922
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: much power anyway. So maybe it's a step in the

923
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Speaker 2: right direction. But when you got the other side that

924
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Speaker 2: wants to eliminate this form of government, they want to

925
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Speaker 2: bring it down revolution or otherwise. Getting a population of

926
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Speaker 2: people who have been insulted by and awakened to the

927
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Speaker 2: fact that their government may very well be working against

928
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Speaker 2: them is not a positive step if you're worried about

929
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Speaker 2: the future of the country. So lots of unpackage here, Bobby,

930
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Speaker 2: But I'm willing to wait for the picture to be

931
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Speaker 2: completed before I ultimately conclude things one with the way

932
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Speaker 2: or another. And that is the direction that's going keep

933
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Speaker 2: the firearms to Bobby, six twenty seven fifty five. Go ahead,

934
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Speaker 2: real quick, Bob, real quick.

935
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Speaker 6: Oh no, no one thing. I was going to say.

936
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Speaker 6: The algorism that they were using on the movement of

937
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Speaker 6: this individual. There's a whistleblower that identified her.

938
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Speaker 2: Well, maybe Adam said that. Maybe Adam will talk about

939
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Speaker 2: that at eight oh five. Hadn't heard that detail. Don't

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Speaker 2: deny it, though, Bobby. That's just where I am six

941
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Speaker 2: twenty seven right now. But if I have cares the

942
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Speaker 2: talk station otor exit od O or XIT no e

943
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Speaker 2: odor exit the conversation. That is a Joe Streker produced

944
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Speaker 2: podcast where Bringing Me Down dives on into energy related topics,

945
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Speaker 2: which you just did recently.

946
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Speaker 6: Uh.

947
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Speaker 2: I know you're at the airport. Bring them. What's going

948
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Speaker 2: on at CVEG. I know the shutdown has caused multiple

949
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Speaker 2: delays and cancelations. Will start there and then we'll segue

950
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Speaker 2: into how is it the shutdown impacts energy policy? Bring them?

951
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Speaker 9: Welcome back, Hi, Brian, good morning, Thanks for having me

952
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 9: on on short notice. Yeah, I'm here at CVG it's

953
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Speaker 9: bustling up. You know, the shutdown has dramatically impacted air travel,

954
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Speaker 9: as many of your listeners know. By the way, I

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Speaker 9: added one other thing to my title. I'm on the

956
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Speaker 9: United States Department of Transportation Advisory Board.

957
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Speaker 2: Wow, congratulations on that. In that capacity, what will you

958
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: be responsible for since this transportation? Will you be oversight

959
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: over speed bumps being installed in City of Cincinnati on

960
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Speaker 2: Gilbert Avenue? Maybe?

961
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm one of twelve, and it's a diverse group

962
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Speaker 9: of individuals. I'm concentrating on infrastructure. You know, there's a

963
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Speaker 9: lot of overlap between energy infrastructure, transportation infrastructure, and you know,

964
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Speaker 9: looking for ways to improve mobility for all Americans. And

965
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Speaker 9: I can tell you know, had this shutdown continued any further,

966
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Speaker 9: nobody was going to be traveling at Thanksgiving. That's how

967
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 9: icy and unstable the ATC air traffic control network has

968
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Speaker 9: become due to this shutdown.

969
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: But that's in spite of the fact that all the

970
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Speaker 2: air traffic controllers know they were going to be paid,

971
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Speaker 2: and they're deem critical employees recognizing that. Of course, the

972
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Speaker 2: job they do allows us to travel and engage in commerce.

973
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Speaker 2: And I mean, of course, in a very very very

974
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Speaker 2: important job since it's air travel and planes crash and

975
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: they run into each other.

976
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and we were already well short of targets. In fact,

977
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Speaker 9: by this past summer, the Trump administration had hired over

978
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Speaker 9: thirty five hundred new controllers, which was their yearly target.

979
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Speaker 9: The issue has become that many of them are retiring.

980
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 9: It's a high stress job depending on what airport you're at. Sure,

981
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 9: there are smaller airports it's pretty chill. But if you've

982
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 9: ever sat at an ATC control tower or in a

983
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Speaker 9: regional center, one of the busier ones around the United States,

984
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Speaker 9: I can't you know. And I'm a recovering naval aviator.

985
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Speaker 9: It's a tough job.

986
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I just remember the volume and still to

987
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: this day is the case. When I lived in Chicago,

988
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: that O'Hare Airport, it was what thousand plus flights every

989
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: single day. The place is just it's a steady stream

990
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Speaker 2: of in and out. And to be responsible for managing

991
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: all of that and all the lives that are dependent

992
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Speaker 2: upon your proper management of that air traffic, dude, I

993
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't take that job if you paid me double the

994
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Speaker 2: salary they make well.

995
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Speaker 9: And Americans are traveling more than ever, Brian. There are

996
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 9: some issues though, one of frankly is the airlines. You know,

997
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 9: out of CBG we fly a lot of the small

998
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 9: regional jets that dot on the radar requires the same

999
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 9: human attention as a seven forty seven or a much

1000
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 9: larger aircraft. We've got to get the airlines to upgauge

1001
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 9: their aircraft and actually cut back on some of their hours.

1002
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 9: Right now, coming into DC, there's six or seven direct

1003
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Speaker 9: flights a day, all on fifty sixty passenger airplane. So

1004
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 9: upgauging aircraft is really important as well. But for the airlines,

1005
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 9: the smaller airplanes are cheaper to fly, and they don't

1006
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 9: pay more for putting ten planes in the air instead

1007
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 9: of seven or six.

1008
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: That I understand. So they're maximizing profit, which I certainly get.

1009
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Speaker 2: But at the same time increasing the number of planes

1010
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Speaker 2: in the air by maximizing profit.

1011
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 9: Yes, and there has to be you know, there are

1012
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 9: physical limitations of the system, so you know it requires

1013
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 9: a concerted effort by everybody, kind of like it does

1014
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 9: in Congress to figure this out.

1015
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1016
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Speaker 2: Well, well, just like that, you are not holding your

1017
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: breath waiting for this to come about. Are you, Brigham?

1018
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: You know I'm not.

1019
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 9: It's actually pretty disappointing. The last vote of the House

1020
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Speaker 9: Rules Committee, which is required before the Senate pass building

1021
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 9: can go to the floor vote today lasted until one am,

1022
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Speaker 9: with every Democrat voting against on the Rules Committee voting

1023
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 9: against reopening the government. It is insane, Brian.

1024
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't make that statement looking for an argument

1025
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: for me. Brigham.

1026
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 9: I know, and you know, to be fair to our

1027
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Speaker 9: Democrat friends, it's both parties, honestly, and you know this

1028
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Speaker 9: is something I talked about in a recent episode of

1029
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 9: Charge Conversations. Congress itself is failing to do its job,

1030
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Speaker 9: and as a consequence, these are the fights and battles

1031
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 9: we have coming up. But if we can't even get

1032
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 9: together on whether a COVID era subsidy never meant to

1033
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 9: stay in place, is suddenly a long standing government right.

1034
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Speaker 9: I don't know about you, but I'm not betting on

1035
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Speaker 9: fixing the deficit anytime soon.

1036
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Speaker 2: No, nor am I. Did you got any chance, by

1037
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Speaker 2: any chance to get to read since you are this

1038
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Speaker 2: is your wheelhouse, your energy policy. The Jorn Lumberg's article

1039
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Speaker 2: from The Wall Street General, China's green energy revolution is powered.

1040
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Speaker 9: By cole Yeah, yeah, I did read that.

1041
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Speaker 2: I read the whole thing on the air just the

1042
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Speaker 2: other day, because it is insane. We are killing ourselves

1043
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Speaker 2: in the name of chasing our tails trying to eliminate

1044
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Speaker 2: carbon dioxide. China is making billions and billions of dollars

1045
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Speaker 2: by manufacturing the tail chasing vehicles, windmills, and solar plant

1046
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: while using coal power to create those items to sell

1047
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Speaker 2: to stupid Western governments.

1048
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and you know, it's a brilliant plan. And I

1049
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 9: hate to give China credit for this.

1050
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I were really right.

1051
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Speaker 9: If I were ranking them for energy security, i'd give

1052
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Speaker 9: them an A plus A plus. They are using, they

1053
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 9: are using everything at their disposal to make sure that

1054
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Speaker 9: they have the uninterrupted availability of power wherever and whenever

1055
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Speaker 9: it's needed, as cheaply as possible for.

1056
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Speaker 2: The purpose of achieving economic dominance, for achieving economic dominance,

1057
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Speaker 2: and part of that economic dominance is being well certainly achieved.

1058
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Speaker 2: They're making a whole lot of money off of perpetuating

1059
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Speaker 2: the myth that our exhalation is some how dangerous to

1060
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Speaker 2: our survival, that that joke could be perpetrated on most

1061
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Speaker 2: of the globe while the Chinese Communist Party laughs, their

1062
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Speaker 2: collective asses off making money of it, and the word

1063
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Speaker 2: has not gotten out until somebody like Bjorn Lumberg comes

1064
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Speaker 2: on and points out the obvious, which I've been screaming

1065
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Speaker 2: about for years. As have you brig him account this? Well,

1066
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just frustrating.

1067
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Speaker 9: It is really frustrating. And you know, to see where

1068
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 9: America could have been in a few years, all we

1069
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Speaker 9: have to do is look at Europe, which is completely devastated,

1070
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Speaker 9: its economy, its industries, self inflicted under this. Oh, we

1071
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Speaker 9: have to do our part. Leaving aside the fact that

1072
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Speaker 9: whether you have four hundred points per million or four

1073
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Speaker 9: hundred and sixty parts per whatever of CO two, you

1074
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 9: can't voluntarily change the world. If the largest single emitter

1075
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Speaker 9: representing China and India more than half a global emissions

1076
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Speaker 9: isn't gonna play, even if.

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Speaker 6: It's not would work.

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Speaker 9: It would not work under this scenario.

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Speaker 2: It would not, and hence the stupidity of the whole process.

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Speaker 2: Notwithstanding the fact of carbon dioxide is plant food. Bring

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Speaker 2: the McCowan and I tell you what man, I am,

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Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart, very serious. I wish

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Speaker 2: you safe travels as I do for all the air traffic,

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Speaker 2: all the travelers out there. It's a dicey proposition when

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Speaker 2: there run enough people behind the controls that are monitoring

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Speaker 2: the airflight. So that's why they had to cancel and

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Speaker 2: delay a lot of flights. It's for everybody's safety. Although

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Speaker 2: it is a colossal pain in the butt bringing mccow

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Speaker 2: on podcasts, it's charged conversations again a Jost Tracker production.

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Speaker 2: Bring them account Safe Travels. We'll talk soon, I hope,

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Speaker 2: because we've got more to talk about about energy policy.

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Speaker 9: Thanks brother, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Safe Travels six point forty right now Ifitch about kar

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Speaker 2: City Talk Station. If you got pain, you can get

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Speaker 2: rid of the pain? Forty nine Fich about Karsit talk

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Speaker 2: Station et Wednesday, Big Picture with Jack added after the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour news subject today, Democrats and the

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Speaker 2: power of pain. Bottom of the hour, out of and

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Speaker 2: Neil Well, he'll be doing a Power You seminar tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night at seven pm. Ohio needs a reset. And I

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Speaker 2: think about what's going on in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned that before, and why don't we go in

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Speaker 2: that direction. Some of the legislative changes in the laws

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Speaker 2: in Florida are also unbelievably business well and resident friendly.

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Speaker 2: We could make Ohio more like that and compete. And

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Speaker 2: can I just ask this out loud? This has been

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Speaker 2: a burning question in the back of my mind. And

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Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist or

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Speaker 2: maybe a pattern observer, but we have all these the

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Speaker 2: rethink the police folks. It's been announced, mom, Donnie has

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Speaker 2: got this new chief architect, incoming staff member. He's just

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Speaker 2: tapped to be his advisor in this woke Democratic Socialist

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Speaker 2: of America inspired administration. He's got the woman who is

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Speaker 2: the architect behind his community Department of Community Safety proposal,

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Speaker 2: which is a one point one billion dollar program which

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Speaker 2: is supposed to send out social workers rather than police

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Speaker 2: department members of law enforcem to what is described as

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Speaker 2: certain nonviolent nine to eleven calls, nine one one calls.

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Speaker 2: And we all know they've tried that here in the

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Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati. This is a large group of folks.

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Speaker 2: They are not law enforcement officers, right, they're what counselors

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Speaker 2: or whatever. I am certain that they have passed some

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Speaker 2: political litmus tests, most notably in the City of Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: now run effectively by the Democratic Socialists of America. And

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Speaker 2: I thought of this group sitting around when there are

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Speaker 2: non violent calls and they're not doing anything, what are

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Speaker 2: they going to be utilized for? Maybe? Maybe, and I'm

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Speaker 2: saying this out loud, knowing how politically charged it might

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Speaker 2: be and how crazy I might sound, but doesn't that

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Speaker 2: sound to you? Maybe just maybe that they could become

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Speaker 2: the next brown Shirts? Those were political operatives for Adolf Hitler.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know my history well enough to know

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Speaker 2: whether they were actually vested and law enforcement designated like

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Speaker 2: they had some legal cap I mean, you think, Crystal Knock,

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Speaker 2: these are just crazy people who hated Jews running around

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Speaker 2: killing and beating people. And when you enshrine that under

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Speaker 2: the under a government umbrella funded, all I see are

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Speaker 2: danger signals. I pray to god it doesn't go down

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Speaker 2: that road. But you established this group of people again

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Speaker 2: outside of really of trained law enforcement, knowing full well

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Speaker 2: that they're all going to be basically political operatives. You know,

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Speaker 2: they may very well solve or respond or deal with

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Speaker 2: some maybe nonviolent nine to one one call, which probably

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Speaker 2: will ultimately result in having to have an actual police

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Speaker 2: officer come over and issue a citation or something, but

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Speaker 2: that concept frightens me. Vivan Gramaswami all over that. Right now,

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Speaker 2: of course, the number of the New York Police Department

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Speaker 2: officers is dropping and more and more expected to leave

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Speaker 2: because of Yes, I want to I hate the police.

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Speaker 2: Mom Dami who previously said that the police department was

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Speaker 2: a racist, anti queer and major threat to public safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he said that, though I just quoted him. So the

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Speaker 2: cops in New York are really kind of concerned about

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Speaker 2: their future and they're quitting. New York Post just reported

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Speaker 2: the more than two hundred police officers resigned in October

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Speaker 2: ahead of Mom Dommy's election day, and of course words

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Speaker 2: circulating around that a lot more are cute up and

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Speaker 2: ready to leave. Vivik Gramaswami saying, Hey, come on to Ohio.

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Speaker 2: The water's fine here. We'll be more than happy to

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Speaker 2: hire you here in the state of Ohio. That's a

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Speaker 2: good marketing thing, but it'll be better if we had

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Speaker 2: a better economic environment in the state of Ohio to

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Speaker 2: lure all the businesses and of course law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, we do need them. And City

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati gets the memo they promised lateral hires. Why

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Speaker 2: not start running ads in New York City? AFTAB Philip,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program, Thanks for calling this morning. Happy

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Speaker 2: Wednesday to you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you well.

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Speaker 10: I just wanted to pass on a little bit of information.

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Speaker 10: I'm a veteran and I was recently stacked up with

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Speaker 10: enough of medical issues that I was going to pursue disability.

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Speaker 10: But VA and I hear that on the radio every

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Speaker 10: day then that you're a good champion for this cause,

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Speaker 10: and you know a lot of people in the know. Basically,

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Speaker 10: I want to try health yesterday and ask for my

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Speaker 10: medical records, and they told me that they could only

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Speaker 10: go back ten years. They started destroying all medical records

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Speaker 10: after ten years. Really, yeah, I received no notice.

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Speaker 2: That seems completely polar opposite to the direction we're going.

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Speaker 2: Because it's easy to store data these days. I mean,

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Speaker 2: data storage is not free, but it's comparatively cheap. And

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Speaker 2: the cheaper I mean it's cheaper today than it was yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and it's the damn sight cheaper than it was five, ten,

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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. I mean, data storage is nothing. Why

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Speaker 2: would they destroy records which might very well impact what

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Speaker 2: kind of healthcare you need now?

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Speaker 10: Exactly and from the case in point, I'm also trying

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Speaker 10: to work on my father's claim he appears to have ah,

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Speaker 10: it's looking like agent orange exposure. We had no idea

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Speaker 10: until more recently. And luckily he was with christ Network

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Speaker 10: and all his medical records are available and online and

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Speaker 10: I couldn't retrieve those documents. But with mine. She said,

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Speaker 10: I needed to hurry up and get in there because

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Speaker 10: they're about to destroy twenty fifteen here soon. So wow,

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Speaker 10: I went down yesterday and this is straight from the

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Speaker 10: records department at Try Health.

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Speaker 2: Well, you may be, I mean that may be subject

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Speaker 2: to the Packed Act because they're going to compensate people

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Speaker 2: for for conditions that were you know, that occurred as

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Speaker 2: a consequence of military service, and the standard of the

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Speaker 2: burden of proof is basically minimal or I mean nothing.

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Speaker 2: The cancers, for example, are presumptively a consequence of the

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Speaker 2: service if you can just show a couple of minor things,

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Speaker 2: so your medical records may have an impact on that.

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Speaker 2: But more fundamentally, I think if military records show where

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Speaker 2: you or your father in this case were stationed, and

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Speaker 2: they're approximately related to some potential exposure, and then they

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Speaker 2: automatically qualify under the pack dect. That's about as boiled

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Speaker 2: down as I can make it. And don't quote me

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Speaker 2: gospel on that. You're not getting a legal consultation right now.

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Speaker 2: But since I've hit the VA in often enough to

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Speaker 2: know that there is something out there that may provide

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Speaker 2: you some relief in so far as the destruction of

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Speaker 2: your medical records, you might have to ask try Health

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Speaker 2: about that. I don't understands. That doesn't seem to me

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Speaker 2: to be a positive development. So thank you for your service,

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: man and your father's service. We hear in the listening

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Speaker 2: once truly truly appreciate that, and we'll keep my fingers

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Speaker 2: crossed that your situation gets sorted out. Coming up Jack

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Speaker 2: Atherton with a big picture at the top of the

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Speaker 2: air news, then Donovan O'Neil on Ohio needing a reset. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 2: what's Donovan have in mind? We'll find out together. Don't

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Speaker 2: go away today. It's tough headlines coming up seven oh five,

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Speaker 2: and I think you five Kroc de talk station. Hey,

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Speaker 2: look it's Wednesday. What do we do at seven oh five?

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Speaker 2: We get the big picture with Jack A Jack aden

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Speaker 2: in my friend. It is always a real pleasure having

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Speaker 2: you on the show. Glad to have you back.

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Speaker 11: I could not be more grateful. So, Paal, let's see

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 11: if we got this right. Democrats, the Party a big government,

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01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 11: have been willing to starve government workers and their families

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Speaker 11: and endanger all the rest of us, especially those who

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 11: fly folks, This is no exaggeration. Early on in this shutdown,

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Speaker 11: the Democrats chief cable network CNN reported that a quote

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Speaker 11: senior Democratic aide told them Democrats would not reopen the

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Speaker 11: government short of and I quote again, planes falling out

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 11: of the sky. Oh come on, our left wing friends

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01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 11: might say, that's not all of us. Seven Democrats senators

1240
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 11: after all, and one independent who caucuses with them all

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01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 11: the time. Means Angus King did after seven weeks break

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 11: their own filibuster. But folks, you know what finally gave

1243
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 11: those eight senators the courage, the moral clarity to stand

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 11: up for what's right exactly, not one seeking reelection next year.

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Speaker 2: It's so obvious. And you know, Temmy, I have you

1246
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: asked you this, Jack, And I'm sorry interrupting your commentary

1247
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: because yeah, but you know, the rest of them, while

1248
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: they're paying lip services this news guys capitulate, they're all

1249
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Speaker 2: excelling a sigh of relief that they fell on the sword.

1250
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Speaker 2: For the rest of them who also wanted the government

1251
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Speaker 2: open because of the pain, They're.

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Speaker 11: Not paying lip service. They're being paid. It's in the constitution,

1253
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 11: they say, But you could have put that in escrow.

1254
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 11: A lot of Republicans didn't accept their pay, so no,

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 11: they're not paying anything. They never do anyway. This got

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Speaker 11: me thinking about what we discussed last week, Brian, that

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Speaker 11: a Zorin Mamdani and Chuck Schumer make life painful enough

1258
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 11: for us, more voters might finally get off their posteriors

1259
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 11: and vote Democrats out. But sadly, my friend, I'm still

1260
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 11: not sure it works that way. When you beat a

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Speaker 11: dog the way for instance, the villainous Bill Sikes beat

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 11: his dog and dickens Oliver twist. That dog may at

1263
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,440
Speaker 11: first fight back, but soon the beaten dog becomes co dependent,

1264
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 11: just like Tragically, too many beaten wives stick with their

1265
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 11: vicious husbands or return to them because they feel they

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 11: have no choice. Amesley and I know we used to

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 11: volunteer at a shelter. I suspect folks that over time,

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01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 11: the more people are beaten down and feel pain, the

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 11: more likely they are to support anyone promising them a reprieve,

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Speaker 11: a reward freebies, even if the people promising the freebies

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Speaker 11: are the ones who inflicted the pain. Democrats caused this

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 11: painful government shutdown by refusing to support a clean cr

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Speaker 11: a continue resolution that would simply continue for a time

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Speaker 11: Biden's spending levels. Instead, Democrats demanded, among many other things,

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Speaker 11: like funding for public broadcasting. To come back, Democrats demanded

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 11: an extension of COVID emergency subsidies for their own unaffordable Obamacare,

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Speaker 11: including reimbursement for the care of millions of illegal aliens.

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01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 11: Democrats insist that's not true. They lie again, So why

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Speaker 11: does anyone believe them at this point when they know

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Speaker 11: that Democrats, especially during the Obama Biden era, have lied

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 11: to us outrageously Because the recent history of America is

1282
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 11: the history of big government systematically destroying people's character. The

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Speaker 11: people who founded our country had enormous character, courage, like

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Speaker 11: all the service people that we honored yesterday, Principles can do.

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Speaker 11: Spirit what came to be recognized around the world, certainly

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Speaker 11: after we saved the free world in two World Wars

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Speaker 11: as the American spirit. And I'm not just talking about

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Speaker 11: our leaders. Each of our ancestors who immigrated legally to

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Speaker 11: this country brought to an America an entrepreneurial spirit, the

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Speaker 11: very act of crossing oceans arriving here usually with nothing,

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Speaker 11: because for most of our history there was no welfare

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Speaker 11: all that distinguished us from the people left in Europe,

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Speaker 11: Asia and other places where ordinary people were peasants or worse.

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Speaker 11: I'm not forgetting about the twelve and a half million

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Speaker 11: human beings sent to America against their will to be slaves.

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Speaker 11: Their character was as good or better than anyone else's.

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Speaker 11: But the second tragedy for people who were made slaves

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Speaker 11: is that when the Civil War finally set them free,

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Speaker 11: government in many places kept them from enjoying the rights

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Speaker 11: and opportunities of other Americas, even when those legal rights

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Speaker 11: belatedly were secured in the nineteen sixties by both Democrats

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Speaker 11: and Republicans. The increasing trend since the sixties for bigger

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Speaker 11: and bigger government has made people of all races and

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Speaker 11: creeds increasingly dependent on government. Poor families were more vulnerable

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Speaker 11: than anyone, as we've often discussed, because Democrat welfare policies

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Speaker 11: destroyed many of those families by offering free housing and

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Speaker 11: other benefits to single mothers only as long as there

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Speaker 11: was no man living in the house. This was a

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Speaker 11: sinful attempt to make poor families of all races hopelessly

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Speaker 11: dependent on government. The second way Democrats undercut people who

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Speaker 11: aspired to join the middle class was by opening America's

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Speaker 11: borders to tens of millions of illegals, who could work

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Speaker 11: cheap at menial jobs if they worked at all, because

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Speaker 11: they immediately received wellalth fair benefits, even if they were

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Speaker 11: hardened criminals. Lastly, big government increased dependency by shipping American

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Speaker 11: jobs overseas, encouraging that with tax laws and other benefits,

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Speaker 11: shipping them to countries like communists China that paid their

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Speaker 11: own children and minorities starvation wages. This was particularly shameful

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Speaker 11: for Democrats, who were supposed to be the champions of labor.

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Speaker 11: The only laborers who thrived thanks to big government, at

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Speaker 11: least up until now, were government workers, including unionized teachers.

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Speaker 11: A big liberal, Woody Allen, recognized this in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 11: three in his comedy set in the future Sleeper. Woody

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Speaker 11: wakes up from a coma and learns that World War

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Speaker 11: III has been started by teacher unions. Efflection to victories

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Speaker 11: last week convinced Democrats that no matter how much pain

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Speaker 11: they be themselves inflict, people like Bill Syke's dog will

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Speaker 11: become even more dependent on ruinous socialism. Donald Trump is

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 11: trying to convince America that boosting not government but our

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Speaker 11: private sector will increase prosperity, family, formation, and freedom. Yet

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Speaker 11: the biggest threat to America Marxist propaganda peddled by schools,

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Speaker 11: news media, social media everywhere. This propaganda has dominated popular

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Speaker 11: culture for sixty years. Now there are hopeful signs, and

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Speaker 11: let me leave you with one, Brian. Have you seen

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Speaker 11: the studies showing that the number of young people identifying

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Speaker 11: as trans has been cut in half in just the

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Speaker 11: last two years.

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Speaker 2: It was a fad, It was a fed.

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Speaker 11: Like like pet rocks, and now we're getting away from it.

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Speaker 11: Even the Olympic Committee, i know, not just the American

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Speaker 11: Olympic Committee, the Internet National Olympic Committee said if you're

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Speaker 11: a guy, if you have our equipment, you can't play

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Speaker 11: with the girls. We're in a race, Brian, to see

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Speaker 11: a big government socialists can ruin the character of our

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Speaker 11: country before we have a chance to expose them. Meantime,

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Speaker 11: we have to win elections, and then we have to govern,

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Speaker 11: not strike poses and obstruct like some of our more

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Speaker 11: self righteous friends. We have to govern, and if you're

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Speaker 11: a lawmaker, that means persuading your colleagues that's part of

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Speaker 11: your job, or compromising to get things done so that,

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Speaker 11: unlike Bill Syke's Poor Dog, we won't be beaten into submission.

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Speaker 2: What do you say, brother, I can't agree with you more.

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Speaker 2: And it's an interesting thing. I just jotted it down

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Speaker 2: when you were talking about the paying only single women

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Speaker 2: government benefits, So no man in their life meant that

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Speaker 2: they got paid when they had a child, I suppose

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Speaker 2: out of woodlock, so there was no incentive for them

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Speaker 2: to go after the man to get some child support. Now,

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Speaker 2: whether or not at the time that was proposed closed

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Speaker 2: because I can't go back through the legislative history of

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Speaker 2: the arguments over that Johnson era policy. But it has

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Speaker 2: the effect of undermining and eradicating the nuclear family, which

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Speaker 2: of course is one of the tenets of Marxism. So

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Speaker 2: were they putting that in there as a vehicle to

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Speaker 2: get rid of the nuclear family, at least among those

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Speaker 2: on Life's margins or was it really designed with this

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Speaker 2: altruistic motive. It doesn't really matter if he was the

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Speaker 2: intent back then. The ultimate effect has been an obvious one.

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Speaker 2: There are far far fewer nuclear families, and there are

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Speaker 2: now a bunch of generational welfare dependents. But it's also

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Speaker 2: fulfilled in the Marxist dream of undermining the nuclear family,

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Speaker 2: which of course encourages government dependence and reliance from my

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Speaker 2: perspective and from the Marxist perspective at least philosophically or ideologically.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why we have seventy plus percent of families

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Speaker 11: that have been on welfare, higher than that in the

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Speaker 11: biggest cities, without fathers helping to bring up the kids.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, I worked with somebody as a

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Speaker 11: kid as a bellhop, a black man, wonderful guy. The

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Speaker 11: two of us listen to jazz all the time, who

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Speaker 11: kids don't these days. Who told me that his wife

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Speaker 11: divorced him so that she could be eligible for welfare.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, it worked both ways. Out of wedlock and

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Speaker 11: sometimes even in weblock getting back though to government shutdowns.

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Speaker 11: Can I make one other points, pleeez, even though we

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Speaker 11: outlasted the Democrats this time, and I think we should

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Speaker 11: make an exception, however, to the filibuster rule. An exception

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Speaker 11: not getting rid of the whole thing. I'm not sure

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Speaker 11: that would be the best thing right now, but an

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Speaker 11: exception of the filibuster rule for clean continuing resolutions like

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Speaker 11: the one that's on the table right now, to keep

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Speaker 11: government open so we don't have to play chicken again

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Speaker 11: with children's nutrition and people's lives. If voters don't like

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Speaker 11: spending bills, we can always change control of Congress every

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Speaker 11: two years and the president every four years. The filibuster is,

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Speaker 11: you know, Brian, is just a Senate rule. It's not

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Speaker 11: something in the Constitution. You don't have to be no

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Speaker 11: stradamus to see that. Neither Republicans nor Democrats are likely

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Speaker 11: in the foreseeable future to win sixty votes in the

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Speaker 11: Senate anytime soon to break a filibuster. America is only

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Speaker 11: growing more and more polarized, and there's no doubt that,

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Speaker 11: of heaven forbid, Democrats regain the White House in Congress,

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Speaker 11: and eventually they probably will, they will end the filibuster

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Speaker 11: all together. The only reason President Trump was able to

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Speaker 11: pass his big, beautiful bill, which is about to set

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Speaker 11: the economy soaring and all the carping we're hearing, they'll

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Speaker 11: have to find something else to talk about. The only

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Speaker 11: reason he passed that bill is that Congress also has

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Speaker 11: the Reconciliation Rule, which already bypasses filibusters for certain budget bills,

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Speaker 11: but it's very limited. So why not extend that rule

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,799
Speaker 11: and make them Erica govern again?

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Speaker 2: Understood? Jack, understood, And you just asked the same question

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Speaker 2: I've been sort of asking out loud in my head,

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Speaker 2: which is, wait a second, if the Republicans on their

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Speaker 2: own can change that rule, obviously, it doesn't require sixty

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Speaker 2: votes to change the rule. You know, the Democrats are

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: just tapping their toes waiting around to change the rule

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Speaker 2: across the board, like they did previously with getting some

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Speaker 2: of the judges appointed, right, I mean, haven't we been

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: down this road before, at least on a small scale.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. Briefly, the history was that Harry Reid changed the

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Speaker 11: phili but rulee. Again, Remember we had the reconciliation which

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 11: is itself an exception. But Harry Reid went ahead and

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Speaker 11: he was the head of the Democrats from the Senate

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Speaker 11: at that time, and he changed the filibuster rule so

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Speaker 11: that lower court federal judges could be confirmed by fifty

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Speaker 11: one votes. Then Mitch McConnell, his finest moment, extended that

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Speaker 11: exception so that it would include Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the reason we can't.

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Speaker 11: Have another exception to keep the government opens. That's all

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Speaker 11: I'm asking for at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, another little whittling away which leads us, I think,

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Speaker 2: to the inevitable Jack, which is getting rid of the

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Speaker 2: sixty vote in the obligation right now. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I certainly live in interesting times, Jack, and you know

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Speaker 2: that's not a good thing to live in.

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Speaker 11: No Chinese did, and they decided they wanted to put

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Speaker 11: an end to that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they're coming.

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Speaker 11: For us hard.

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Speaker 2: They certainly are, Jack, add and always brilliant, always enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for spending time with my listeners

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01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: and me on Wednesdays at seven oh five. We'll do

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Speaker 2: it again next Wednesday. I'm already looking forward to it.

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: And as always the best of health and loved you,

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: Anne Ainsley, and I'll look forward to next week. Have

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Speaker 2: a wonderful weekend, my friend. Thanks so much, Brian, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's seven nineteen right now, fifty five careven twenty eight

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Speaker 2: thirty five kir CD Talk Station, Wednesday, one hour from now.

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Speaker 2: Judge Jenna Politano preceeded by Adam Hardage. He's a former

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: CIA ops officer, is going to give us the latest

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: on the January sixth hype bombing investigation. Spicy details emerging

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: on that. We'll hear from him at eight to five

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Speaker 2: in the meantime. Welcome back Americans from Prosperities, Donovan and

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01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: Eil and the shutdown. We've finally seen the light at

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel on that one. Donovan, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I understand you're doing an empower you summinar tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get seven PM. Ohio needs a reset too

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: many governments. Donovan, good to heav you back on the show. Ryan,

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: always a pleasure to be with you. Thanks for having me. Well.

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: The marketing signs are going all over the place. New

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: York obviously is going to lose a lot of businesses

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: they have been. The business climate there is awful. There's

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Speaker 2: some ad campaigns going on. Texas is throwing out the

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Speaker 2: big welcome banner and here, Donovan, why can't we have this?

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: Texas just voted to amend their constitution. The voter's approved

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Speaker 2: three pro business tax amendments, saying there will be no

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Speaker 2: capital gains tax ever in the state of Texas. In

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Speaker 2: the constitution, they also are going to have a ban

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Speaker 2: on security transaction taxes, as well as a outright ban

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Speaker 2: on a state and inheritance taxes. They don't have any

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Speaker 2: of those right now, but they've just enshrined in the

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Speaker 2: constitution they never will be. That is probably one of

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Speaker 2: the best marketing angles I've seen so far in the

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Speaker 2: effort to bring businesses in any given state. How come

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Speaker 2: we can't have that, Donovan, Well.

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Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of that, right, we're

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Speaker 1: moving in the right trajectory, but we're not. I think

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Speaker 1: it's right. We're not marketing these things. And we also

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Speaker 1: have been doing a lot of this stuff in a

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Speaker 1: very incremental manner.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Just this past summer they moved Ohio to a flat

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Speaker 1: two point seventy five percent income tax.

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Speaker 2: That's huge, Brian.

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Speaker 1: That's the lowest in the Midwest, second lowest in the nation.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, there's other states. As we've been on

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Speaker 1: your show talking about before, Ohio doesn't exist in a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: We're in a fifty state Compact, these United States of America,

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Speaker 1: and each one of these states is competing for our

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Speaker 1: jobs and opportunity and brightest minds. And we need that

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Speaker 1: leadership in Columbus who's going to fight hard to move

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Speaker 1: Ohio in that bold direction, competing with states like Texas,

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01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Florida that for years have been eating our lunch.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you've talked about this on the Morning Show previously.

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Speaker 2: I know Americans for Prosperity is you know, along the

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Speaker 2: lines of your seminar tomorrow night. And you know, we

1497
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: have so far too many local governments, thousands of townships, cities, boards, commissions,

1498
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: everybody's got their own offices. Everybody needs to be supported

1499
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: and paid for. It is extremely complicated. What is the

1500
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 2: vision that you see? How do we streamline this process

1501
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 2: and bring about what Americans for Prosperity and you Donald

1502
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 2: Dannil are advocating for here in Ohio.

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01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm really excited Dan Regnold and the empower

1504
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: You team and just getting to go back go back

1505
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: down there tomorrow night and be a part of that

1506
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: with their crew. Appreciate you plugging that with us. And

1507
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to talk about. There's this we

1508
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: think about big government a lot of times brain right

1509
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: as this monolithic creature that exists in Columbus or DC, right,

1510
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: our state or nation's capital. But what we're wanting to

1511
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: begin to shine a light on and this isn't We've

1512
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: every fifteen to twenty years or so, this comes back up,

1513
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:10,440
Speaker 1: and most recently it's occurred started to have come unsurfaced

1514
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: itself through the property tax crisis. The problem here is

1515
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: we have the fifth most political subdivisions in the country.

1516
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: What's the political subdivision that's your township, city, school, village, county.

1517
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: All of them provide some services. Our argument is, Thoughbrien,

1518
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: is there too dang much of them? And are we

1519
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: actually experiencing because of how much local government we have?

1520
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Are we actually experiencing a big government crisis because of

1521
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: the amount of government we have here in the state

1522
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: of Ohio.

1523
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 5: And we're unique in that.

1524
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: Again, Pennsylvania, California, Illinois, New York beat us into Ohio

1525
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the number of political subdivisions. That's not

1526
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: a group of states you want to be anytime you're

1527
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: with California, Illinois, New York.

1528
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Something's wrong.

1529
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: Brian and that's where we find ourselves today here in Ohio.

1530
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: Well, let us kind of generally contrast how those states

1531
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: the you know, Ohio, what are the worst in your

1532
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,839
Speaker 2: list as you point out, with one of the fewest

1533
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: government states. I mean, how does the how do those

1534
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: states operate and provide the local attention? And I'm I'm

1535
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: an advocate for you know, the closer a politician is

1536
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: to me physically where they live and what they see,

1537
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: the closer they are to understand how the local issues

1538
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: impact people locally. Nobody in DC has any concept of

1539
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: how Joe Strecker lives in his neighborhood. And they can't

1540
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: you know, provide benefits and ensure that his neighborhood is

1541
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 2: being taken care of. They don't even know it exists.

1542
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: So that same kind of concept makes an argument for

1543
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: no more local government is good. So how does the

1544
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: fewer local governments address the needs of people locally and

1545
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 2: still work out to everybody's benefit? Donovan?

1546
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 8: Sure, Well, I.

1547
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: Put to a state like Florida when it comes to

1548
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: school districts, right, they are the single largest here in

1549
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: Ohio consumer of our property tax revenue. Right example, we

1550
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: have six hundred some school districts. Here in the state

1551
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: of Ohio, each one of those run with by a superintendent,

1552
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: a board of five school board members, assistant superintendent's treasurer,

1553
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: assistant treasurer, a lot of administration, right that doesn't even

1554
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: get to the front lines of education. State like Florida,

1555
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: I think there's somewhere about ninety school districts. They run

1556
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: them by county.

1557
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1558
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: If we were to do a similar model, which is

1559
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: an unprecedented there are reports and studies that have shown

1560
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: how this can be done. There's off and on conversations

1561
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: about doing that. Here in Ohio, we'd have eighty eight

1562
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: school districts, give or take, we had one per county.

1563
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1564
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: What we're talking about there is streamlining the delivery of services,

1565
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: not moving it to Columbus or DC, but streamlining within

1566
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: our counties to eliminate a lot of this overhead and

1567
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: administrative burdens that exist that all costs tax dollars. By

1568
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: the way, on the argument for your local elected officials

1569
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: being accessible, push back to our friends who are out

1570
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: there fighting the property tax fight right now alongside us,

1571
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: who are also saying they want more local government. I

1572
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: say to them, how many of your township trustees, county commissioners,

1573
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: school board officials that you've gone to and complained about

1574
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,879
Speaker 1: your property taxes, how many of them have actually done something.

1575
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: To lower that burden for you.

1576
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: Just because these folks are accessible, Brian, doesn't mean they're actually,

1577
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, conservative and delivering the kind of efficiencies we

1578
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 1: want out of government. There's some things we can do

1579
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: by consolidating, and that's what's at the heart of this conversation.

1580
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, for whatever reason, I'm thinking back

1581
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: to Sheriff Neil, but he was really big into developing

1582
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: the concept of shared services among the region's law enforcement

1583
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: officers for the purposes of efficiency. If you have one

1584
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: dive team that is accessible for all of the various

1585
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 2: police departments, they know what to do, how to do it,

1586
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 2: they're efficient at it, and they share that service with

1587
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: the others. That relieves the other police departments from having

1588
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: an obligation of having a well a dive unit. So

1589
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: that makes perfect sense. This extreme streamline efficiencies in school government.

1590
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 2: You have fewer school board members, you have fewer school

1591
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: It could deal with some of the perhaps overcrowding or

1592
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 2: undercrowding issues more efficiently managed property I see a lot

1593
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: of pluses for this, and see what you say to

1594
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 2: see how you react to this. Going back to the

1595
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: whole property tax, if you end up eliminating property tax

1596
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: in Ohio, and I know that's a train wreck for

1597
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: a lot of people, but if you had county wide

1598
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: school boards, allocating the resources to a single school board

1599
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: would be a dam site easier than allocating the resources

1600
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: to what you said, six hundred different ones in the

1601
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: state of Ohio. If it's going to be centrally distributed

1602
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: in terms of the whatever revenue is being used to

1603
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: fund the schools, yeah.

1604
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, and I think you know centralization. You want to

1605
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: be careful with that, right Yeah, you don't want to

1606
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: move everything entirely to Columbus or everything entirely to.

1607
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 5: Washington, d C.

1608
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: But we have to find a balance, and right now

1609
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the imbalance exists with the amount that we have. When

1610
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: I lived in Franklin County near Columbus, the community I

1611
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: lived in, I paid taxes. I filed income taxes Brian

1612
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to six different entities. Columbus City of Reynoldsburg, a joint

1613
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: a jed, a district that we had a special taxing

1614
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: district that we had there probably not a JED, a

1615
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: special taxing district, the school district, the state of Ohio,

1616
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: and the federal income taxes. On top of that, I

1617
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 1: had property taxes. And when you look at your property

1618
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: tax bill, which more and more that's becoming transparent, you're paying,

1619
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, for a dozen more levies that go to

1620
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 1: all these different political subdivisions, all in a lot of ways,

1621
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: right Brian, services we want I like police showing up

1622
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: when my when there's an emergency. I like fire if

1623
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: there's an issue at my home. I want to be

1624
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: I want to have safe roads to drive on, and

1625
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: I want to know that you know, if I choose

1626
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: to send my kid to a public school, that it's

1627
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: going to be a good education. But there is we

1628
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: have so many of these entities taking a slice out

1629
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: of our pocketbook. That's at the heart of why we

1630
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: are experiencing the property tax crisis we're experiencing right now.

1631
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: So many of these political subdivisions exist, and there are

1632
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: some opportunities for consolidation, shared services, and other collaborative agreements

1633
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: to bring that number down, and ultimately that delivers relief

1634
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: to Ohioans and creates a more economic prosperous future, so

1635
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: that states like Texas, Tennessee, and Florida stop taking our

1636
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: jobs an opportunity and they come here to the economic

1637
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: engine of the Midwest.

1638
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, assuming this concept is embraced and we are

1639
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: convinced that it's the right way to go, doesn't this

1640
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 2: require each of these individual political subdivisions to be willing

1641
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: to give up their control. A lot of people view

1642
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: these as their own independent fiefdoms, like police departments. I'm

1643
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: not working with them, and this is mine. You can't

1644
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: trot on my neighborhood, you know, burber Berberg. There's a

1645
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: lot of that going on, and politicians typically act like that.

1646
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: So this is going to require the relinquishment of control

1647
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: by these various entities. What have you ever known a.

1648
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: Politician or an elected official, no matter how small their

1649
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: political government is, to let it go.

1650
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 2: No, it's near impossible. The last time.

1651
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing this I mentioned earlier in the segment.

1652
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: This isn't a new concept. Right, If you might remember

1653
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: some of your listeners might remember back in two thousand

1654
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: and nine, we experienced an economic crisis, right, two dosy

1655
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: nine experience an economic crisis. John Kasik came in as

1656
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: governor fixed the state budget, and one of the big

1657
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: conversations at that time was what we were going to

1658
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: do about all these political subdivisions in Ohio.

1659
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 2: Reports were put out.

1660
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Buckeye Institute Greg Laws and put out a great report

1661
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: talking about this. The governor had an Office of Transformation

1662
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: on that Auditor of State Debut's who I was working

1663
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: for at the time. We went out and talked about

1664
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: skinny Ohio and shared services. The problem, though, Brian, you

1665
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:57,560
Speaker 1: hit on it. The problem is the fiefdoms and these

1666
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: folks who are out there who have their special district

1667
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: or their governmental entity. And just like Congress, you love

1668
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: your congressman, but you hate Congress. People love their local government,

1669
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: but they hate the cost of it. We've got to

1670
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: come to a reconciliation here because it's bleeding us dry.

1671
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: And that's you know, the flag and banner we're raising

1672
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: out there is that, if you you know, underlying this

1673
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: property tax crisis is a big government problem and it's

1674
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: not entirely in Columbus right now. It's in the villages, township,

1675
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 1: school districts and counties that your.

1676
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 2: Local government.

1677
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: And we need folks to get engaged and start start

1678
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: asking for more accountability there.

1679
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Well for those desirous of political expedients. Again, if we

1680
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 2: embrace this concept and the majority of people are all

1681
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 2: in favor of it, this isn't as if Columbus could

1682
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 2: pass some piece of legislation that would streamline all these

1683
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: various jurisdictions, they would have to relinquish that control themselves,

1684
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: or the local voters would have to say we here.

1685
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Let's say I live in Simms Township, we agree to

1686
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 2: merge with Loveland as a political entity or subvision or

1687
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: something along those lines. It would require local consent.

1688
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Well, for instances of villages that local consent is already available.

1689
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: You can go and get a small fraction of signatures,

1690
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: put it on the ballot and let the voters vote

1691
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: on that. Wouldn't that be novel Brian instead of and

1692
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: that exists today. But we don't see that happening across

1693
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio because who wants to be that

1694
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: parie in their community? Right going, you're going to abolish

1695
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: the village. So there's a lot at play. I think

1696
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: what we need to do is regionalize some of this stuff.

1697
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: So it's hard to get it done in Columbus because

1698
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: there are literally tens of thousands of paid lobbyists. If

1699
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: the states would have passed alat a day abolishing villages

1700
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 1: or consolidating schools, the outcry and pressure campaign from that

1701
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: would be unbearable.

1702
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 12: I think.

1703
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: But I think you regionalize it. You allow folks local

1704
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: in their communities to make some of these decisions. I

1705
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: think there's some opportunities to reform. We've seen though that

1706
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: the voluntary disarmament doesn't seem to be working because those

1707
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: options are available today, but it's not happening.

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01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in my backyard. Oh Donovan, you've got a

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01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: tough road to ho on this one. But that's what

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Speaker 2: you're going to be talking about. Tomorrow night. Seven PM's

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Speaker 2: the start time. You can show up live three hundred

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Speaker 2: great Oaks, drive the empower Youse, some in our studio,

1713
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: or log in from the comfort of your own home.

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Speaker 2: It's empower Youamerica dot org. Check out what Donovan has

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01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 2: to say, and also hear from Eric Conroy, who'll be

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01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 2: discussing the time he spent in the CIA as well

1717
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 2: as his run for Congress. They do this what they

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Speaker 2: call take twenty twenty minutes worth of information from him,

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01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: along with Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity. Donovan, hope

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01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 2: you have a well attended seminar, and I hope you

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01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: flush out some of these ideas and maybe we'll see

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01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: some direction or some positive movements in this direction. But

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Speaker 2: it's going to take some work at a grassroots level.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely always does. Thanks Brian, I appreciate it.

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01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Thank you Donald and O'Neil. Empower you America dot org.

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Speaker 2: And of course this conversation and the details will be

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Speaker 2: at fifty five kr seed dot com. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: seven forty three at fifty five kr se de talk

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Speaker 2: station or Sharia Keller Williams seven hitter in which there

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Speaker 2: to see, which means cribbage, Mike, my submarine or friend.

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01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back and a belated happy Veterans Day. Even though

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01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 2: I think I thank you yesterday for your service to

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01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: our country, Welcome back, my friend.

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01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 13: You did, sir, and it was a fabulous day. He

1735
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 13: had a speaking engagement on a local defense contractor and

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01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 13: it was what yesterday was should be all about.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. That and remembering my late father on

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01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 2: his birthday. Sorry, oh real quick on that. I want

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01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: to thank everybody. Got like almost four hundred people chiming in.

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01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 2: I wished my father a happy heavenly birthday yesterday and Facebook,

1741
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 2: and I was overwhelmed by the outpouring of love by

1742
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 2: people who commented on that or otherwise responded to that.

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01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: So thank you to each and every one of you.

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01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 2: That was really heartwarming. Go ahead, Mike, I'm sorry, but

1745
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: truth test.

1746
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 13: Admit to the man that Jerry Thomas was no doubt.

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01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: That's what I like to think. That's why I felt

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01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: so good about it.

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01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, yes, sir. Every day we hear Tom's tagline

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01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 13: don't democrat very sage advice, and more often than not

1751
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 13: they prove why that is such an apt line. Two

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01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 13: local instances. One's almost two days old. But I was

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Speaker 13: not going to desecrate Veterans Day yesterday by talking about

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01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 13: may or aftamp. But I will today during his campaign

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01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 13: once he realized how bad he dropped. The ball was

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01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 13: snow removal, not that it would have made any difference,

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01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 13: as you and Joe have been shown with how these

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01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,839
Speaker 13: different neighborhoods voted and they're still getting the same poor service.

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01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 13: But anyway that the snowplows tracks will be laid out,

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01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 13: you can go to the website. You can see where

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01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 13: we're at what's been done. Well, it didn't happen. And

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01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 13: his excuse was it wasn't an insignificant snowfall. Well, what's significant?

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01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 13: Two inches, three inches, half a foot, it doesn't matter,

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01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 13: because you know, the guy that died in Bethel yesterday,

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01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 13: he probably thought it was significant, his family, the people

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01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 13: sitting on Cross County Highway, and I'm sure there was

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Speaker 13: one or two people stuck amongst the seven Hills of Cincinnati.

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01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 13: So once again, just an empty suit promise that he

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Speaker 13: cannot lead and have foresight. The other one who dropped

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01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 13: the ball and was out all over the news yesterday

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Speaker 13: was our good representative, Greg Lansman, you know, and the

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01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 13: headline was the breaking news was that Greg Landsman's going

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01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 13: to vote no. Greg Landsman voted no, the first time

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01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 13: Greg Landsman would have voted no matter what.

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Speaker 10: That's not news.

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Speaker 13: And he's once again laming about the thirty two thousand

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01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 13: constituents are going to lose their health care.

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01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 5: Why is that?

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Speaker 13: And you have laid it out perfectly, the Democrats put

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01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 13: it in you don't need subsidies if it's affordable, and

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01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 13: of course it was due to sunset anyway. So it's

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01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 13: got nothing to do the Republicans, and as Tom Apptley says,

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01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 13: don't vote Democrats.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Mike. Thanks again for your service or

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Speaker 2: our country. I appreciate you tuning of the program and

1786
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 2: offering your thoughts and comments. Sandy to offer her thoughts

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Speaker 2: and comments. Welcome to the program, Sandy, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Brian. Yeah, you do capitalize kind of offer

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01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 14: which the gentleman just said, snow removal on things. We

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01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 14: shared services in this regionalism that the previous guests to

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01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 14: was talking about combining counties or villages or something together.

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01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 14: You're going to find the services out. And so let's

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01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 14: just suppose you merged with Hamilton County. They've got how

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01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 14: many shootings every day or drownings, you know, there could

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01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 14: be five drownings and you got one dive team. How

1796
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 14: are you going to do this this? And then you

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01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 14: if you're going to share services, you're going to share

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01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 14: funds and they're going to be you know, hands in

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Speaker 14: the pot I don't belong and money laundered to different places.

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Speaker 14: I don't think this is a good idea, and I

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01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 14: don't know how they got under the empower you. But

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01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 14: this is like sneaky socialism at a really low level.

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01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 14: And then you're going to share cheat you know the moneies.

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Speaker 14: You know who's going to get the most, but do

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Speaker 14: the least the same.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I really don't. I'd see. I can't see the

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01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: future and know how this would ultimately work out. I

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01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 2: don't know how many people drowned, but how many dive

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01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: teams do you really need? Ask the police department that

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01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: if there are a number of drownings increases, they can

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01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: increase capacity for the folks that can investigate these Those

1812
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 2: things are happening real time right now, regardless, and some

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01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 2: police departments are overwhelmed constantly. The city of Cincinnati is

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01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 2: down two hundred plus police officers and growing number every day.

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01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: They still manage to deal with it on some level.

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01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Maybe additional resources like from the state will help supplement

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01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 2: see because there's more crime going on in Cincinnati. Maybe

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01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 2: you get more allocation of law enforcement resources in the

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01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 2: area that actually needs it, and you reduce the number

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Speaker 2: where there is no crime. There's not a whole lot

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01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: of crime in this neighborhood or that neighborhood need a

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01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: full contingent of your own police department personnel, if there's

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01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: never really any substantive crime. These are the details, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this is a walk towards socialism,

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01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 2: assuming you have the right people that are responsible for

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01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: allocating the dollars. When you're living in a government world,

1827
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 2: when you're electing public officials, most of them malignant narcisses,

1828
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: is only looking for their invest interests, regardless of political stripe.

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01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: It's a recipe for disaster. But this is a problem

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01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 2: we face whether there's six hundred jurisdictions or ten or

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01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 2: eighty eight, as Donovan O'Neil suggests. So Donovan and Neil

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Speaker 2: on Americans for Prosperity is not out to perpetuate or

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Speaker 2: increase socialism. In fact, it's the polar opposite. He's just

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01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: looking for some government efficiency. Now, there are problems with

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01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 2: the plan. As I pointed out, it's going to require

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01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: a collective buy in from all these local governments willing

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01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 2: to hand over the keys of authority, which I think

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01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: you and I can both agree probably not going to happen.

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01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 2: So we'll be stuck with status quo. But as he

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01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:35,480
Speaker 2: regularly points out, status quo ain't working it's very inefficient

1841
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 2: as well. Again, you're hearing from a guy who really

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01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,879
Speaker 2: appreciates the concept of local as opposed to distant government.

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01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Seven fifty six. It doesn't mean his problem, it's not

1844
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: worth exploring. Over the top of the hour News Adam,

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01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 2: it'll i the fifty five caro ce Detalk Station. Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Bottom of the hour, Judge Ennen of Polatano. Everyone say

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01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 2: here in the fifty five Casey morning should I'm so

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01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 2: pleased to be able to welcome to the fifty five

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Speaker 2: Carseity Morning Show today. Adam hard by the way a background.

1850
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,839
Speaker 2: He's a combat veteran, a former CIA operations officer, nationally

1851
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: recognized voice on leadership, national security to the future of

1852
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: America's children in an AI driven world. Graduate of the

1853
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,959
Speaker 2: US Air Force Academy, he spent over a decade conducting

1854
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 2: sensitive A covert operations in the Middle East in Europe.

1855
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 2: He speaks multiple languages. He deployed six times to Iraq

1856
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: and Afghanistan and gained first hand insight into geopolitical strategy,

1857
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: psychological warfare, and the cost of freedom. Also a big

1858
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 2: proponent of teaching children to swim in the sense of

1859
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 2: developing their cognitive ability so they can survive in this

1860
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 2: ever changing world. His mission is to equip parents with

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Speaker 2: young America, with young Americans with the resilience, courage, and

1862
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 2: clarity needed to thrive in this changing world. Adam Hartage,

1863
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: Welcome to the fifty five Caarisee Mornings Show, and thank

1864
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: you so much for your service to our country.

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Speaker 12: Wow, what an introduction, Brian, I really appreciate that.

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01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 5: Thank you. That's more more than gracious, no happy to

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01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 2: And your background is just it's such an outstanding background

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01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 2: to talk about January sixth from the perspective of someone

1870
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: who like a dear dear friend of mine who spent

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01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 2: ten years in America's military doing pyop work. He can

1872
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 2: rave a weed fly, that's syop, that's SiO, that's black Swan,

1873
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 2: and I mean it's it's it's almost like, well, you

1874
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 2: sound like a conspiracy theory, but there are trained people

1875
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: like yourself that are just that, that engage in these

1876
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 2: operations for the purpose of achieving a political goal. So

1877
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 2: what you're seeing with your own eyes isn't necessarily what

1878
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,719
Speaker 2: it really is. It's designed with a broader, larger purpose.

1879
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 2: Your suggestion, perhaps JA six is one of those type

1880
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Speaker 2: of events.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting. I was there at

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01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 12: January sixth, I work with my wife and a couple

1883
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 12: of friends of ours, and it was a really I

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01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 12: have to say, the word I would use is lovely,

1885
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 12: lovely group of people, you know, like patriotic Americans like

1886
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 12: and I remember as we march from the Washington Monumentopolis

1887
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 12: down towards the Capitol, there's a very family, you know

1888
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 12: type friendly sitting where you had literally, you know, kids

1889
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 12: and strollers being pushed along.

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Speaker 6: But what was.

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Speaker 12: Really the thing that really kind of stuck out like

1892
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 12: a sore thumb were what appeared to be like these

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01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 12: kind of professional educators that would try and get the

1894
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 12: crowd worked up, and you know, it just didn't fit

1895
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 12: the vibe and it didn't fit the people who were there.

1896
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 12: And I remember at the time thinking, man, this stinks

1897
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 12: something that they're like, there's I think there's some shady

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01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 12: stuff going on here. But we none of us, none

1899
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 12: of us thought that it might be that air quotes

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01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 12: bed you know what I mean, like two hundred and

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01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 12: fifty FBI agents planet in there. And this was back

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01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 12: in the day when I think, you know, all Americans

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01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 12: really thought that we were still on the same side,

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01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 12: the same kind of page, and that it wasn't really

1905
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 12: a politics and party over you know, patriotism and duty

1906
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 12: kind of situation. But man, later with the pipe bomber

1907
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 12: stuff that's come out and you find out she's allegedly,

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01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 12: you know, a capital police officer. I mean, I this

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01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 12: stuff is just smacks of everything that the deep state

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01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 12: became under. You know, I would say the last twenty

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Speaker 12: plus years where the gloves really came off after nine

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Speaker 12: to eleven. When I say the gloves, I mean the

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Speaker 12: gloves as far as you know, tightening its restrictions on

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Speaker 12: American people and surveillance state, and you know, the Patriot

1915
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 12: Act was supposed to be temporary and all these other things.

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Speaker 12: So you had a lot of a lot of sort

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Speaker 12: of free reign with very little oversight, and that's how

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Speaker 12: you ended up, in my opinion, with things like crossfire, hurricanes,

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Speaker 12: and you know, the Russia Russia Russia stuff and fast

1920
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Speaker 12: and furious, and I mean, it just it's really it's

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Speaker 12: really sad what the political landscape has turned into with

1922
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Speaker 12: the DC crowd. You know, John Adams said that our

1923
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 12: constitution in our country are basically only as strong as

1924
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Speaker 12: the morality of its people. And you know, the Constitution

1925
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Speaker 12: is not fit or anything other than moral people. And

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Speaker 12: I really see how far we've fallen as a country,

1927
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Speaker 12: and it just it really concerns me to no end.

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Speaker 12: And that's literally why I wrote the book The Alpha Blueprint,

1929
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 12: about guiding this next generation, helping them see truth in

1930
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Speaker 12: the world that's designed to lie to them and manipulate them. Well,

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Speaker 12: you know, yeah, go ahead, Sorry.

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Speaker 2: No, I know I agree with everything you say. There's

1933
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Speaker 2: no arguing yet. I mean, you think about the Steele DOSSI,

1934
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Speaker 2: a false made up designed to undermine Donald Trump's Donald

1935
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Speaker 2: Trump even being elected president. After that, then they use

1936
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Speaker 2: that to perpetuate this impeachment RUSSA Russia, Russia. Now we

1937
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,959
Speaker 2: find out about Arctic frost. Now we see that maybe,

1938
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Speaker 2: just maybe, a Capital Security Police officer presently identified as

1939
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Speaker 2: a woman named Shawnie Kirkhoff may have been the one

1940
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Speaker 2: who planted the bombs. And that's important in terms of timing,

1941
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: because this whole J six thing turned into Oh my god,

1942
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: Donald Trump caused chaos and violence. His goal was to

1943
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Speaker 2: undermine the election and interfere with it. It's an impeachable defense

1944
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Speaker 2: and everything. And I've just looked at it as and

1945
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Speaker 2: you were there at I mean, you just pointed out

1946
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Speaker 2: what I've always thought. It was a peaceful gathering pretty

1947
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Speaker 2: far distance from the Capitol. Most people were just there

1948
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Speaker 2: and they decided to walk down And if you listen

1949
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Speaker 2: to the speech, Donald Trump didn't encourage them to take

1950
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: over break into the Capitol at no single time. In fact,

1951
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: we just find out they've had to. You know, BBC

1952
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Speaker 2: had to apologize for doctoring his speech to make it

1953
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 2: appear as though he sounded that way. There's no evidence

1954
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Speaker 2: of it and there never was, so that's right.

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Speaker 12: In fact, I was there when he said We're going

1956
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Speaker 12: to peacefully and patriotically go down there and make our

1957
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Speaker 12: voices heard, you know, And I'm like that. It's just

1958
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Speaker 12: amazing how dishonest media is. And you know, the reason

1959
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Speaker 12: why my former employer, the CIA, came up with the

1960
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Speaker 12: term conspiracy theorists is to discredit anyone through which question

1961
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Speaker 12: the narrative. And so whether it's the JFK thing, you know,

1962
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Speaker 12: tower seven falling on its own after nine to eleven

1963
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Speaker 12: WMD in Iraq, I mean, it's I go into this

1964
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 12: kind of stuff in the book because I was a

1965
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Speaker 12: product of.

1966
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Speaker 5: The Global War on Terror.

1967
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Speaker 12: You know, it's a young military officer or when nine

1968
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Speaker 12: to eleven happened and I wanted to go fight everybody,

1969
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Speaker 12: and I did, and then you know, lo and behold,

1970
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Speaker 12: twenty years later, it's kind of become clear to me

1971
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 12: that we were manipulated by our own country and sent

1972
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Speaker 12: to go do some pretty you know, pretty dangerous stuff,

1973
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Speaker 12: and we lost a whole bunch of people all for

1974
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Speaker 12: for what for some political motives of politicians. I mean,

1975
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Speaker 12: it's just it's unacceptable. It's it's unethical, it's immoral, it's illegal,

1976
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Speaker 12: it's unconstitutional. I mean I I I expect more from

1977
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 12: our leaders. And you know, that's what I'm trying to

1978
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Speaker 12: do is say, okay, well we've seen what we've seen

1979
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Speaker 12: a bad example of what shouldn't be. Now, how do

1980
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Speaker 12: we pick up the ashes of what's left young kids,

1981
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 12: and how do we guide you into a world that's

1982
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 12: you know, going to give you a best shot at

1983
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Speaker 12: being that upstanding, good, moral American citizens.

1984
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Speaker 2: And I certainly applaud those efforts. We certainly need them

1985
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 2: right now given this division that is being fostered, and

1986
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 2: encourage the Alpha Blueprint, Preparing for the Next Generation, for

1987
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 2: an AI future the name of Adam Hardin's book. My

1988
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 2: concern is this now, amid all the backdrop that we

1989
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 2: just sort of briefly summarized all these things that caused

1990
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Speaker 2: me a you know, I love American I love America

1991
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Speaker 2: and what it stands for someone who believes in our country,

1992
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Speaker 2: But now is really having problem with these institutions that

1993
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Speaker 2: we used to look up to, the FBI, the CIA,

1994
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Speaker 2: the DJ This has created a well, a perception we

1995
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 2: can't count our own government. Doesn't this serve the interest

1996
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Speaker 2: of those who seek to undermine us these revelations. I mean,

1997
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 2: we're already divided. The goal of Marxist is of course,

1998
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Speaker 2: the divide is so completely't we aren't even willing to

1999
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Speaker 2: fight for our own country. Why would I be willing

2000
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Speaker 2: to fight for a country who's who's weaponized departments within

2001
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Speaker 2: government against my political philosophy?

2002
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's it's you raise an extremely valid points.

2003
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 12: You know, I actually was fired from the CIA back

2004
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 12: in twenty in early twenty seventeen after Trump forty five

2005
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 12: came into office, and I had raised some serious concerns

2006
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 12: with the way that the agency was acting towards I

2007
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Speaker 12: shouldn't say the agency, I should say the outgoing director

2008
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Speaker 12: brand who is now under indictment. The way he was

2009
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Speaker 12: acting towards an incoming president, and I thought that he

2010
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 12: was not serving the best interest of the office, the

2011
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Speaker 12: oath of office which he had taken. And I was

2012
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Speaker 12: showing the door rather quickly, which was just you know,

2013
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Speaker 12: a symptom of the time that we were in. And

2014
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Speaker 12: so what was interesting is this is right about the

2015
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Speaker 12: same time my old boss, General Mike Flynn, who I

2016
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 12: started out in the Defends Intelligence Agency before I went

2017
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Speaker 12: over to CIA, and he was my old boss, you know,

2018
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Speaker 12: America's general and I stood by his side when and

2019
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 12: it was very clear to me in twenty seventeen that

2020
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Speaker 12: he was being targeted, you know, as the National Security

2021
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 12: Advisor is the brand new National Security Advisor, that he

2022
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 12: was being targeted and housted politically, And that's exactly what

2023
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 12: happened to him. And I mean that's I was very

2024
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 12: blessed that he was willing to write the ford for

2025
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Speaker 12: my book and endorse it, you know, nine years later

2026
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Speaker 12: or eight years later, because I stood by his side.

2027
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Speaker 12: But it was a very lonely time for people like

2028
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Speaker 12: General Flynn and myself, you know, as we were literally

2029
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Speaker 12: crushed by the deep state, and you know, I mean

2030
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Speaker 12: I was like, I don't understand. I've I've been to

2031
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 12: four wars, I've given twenty years of my life, I've

2032
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Speaker 12: given everything that I have.

2033
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Speaker 5: I have literally.

2034
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Speaker 12: Landed at night in the battle, you know, in the

2035
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 12: backyard of bad guy's compounds, going in to either do

2036
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 12: bad things to them or you know, put them in

2037
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Speaker 12: custody and take them to justice.

2038
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Speaker 5: But I'm like, what what was all that for?

2039
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 6: You know?

2040
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Speaker 12: And and when you look at that, and you really

2041
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 12: just end up being disgusted with your leadership, and you

2042
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 12: can either kind of crumble under a rock and you know,

2043
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 12: let the bad guys win, which is kind of like

2044
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 12: exect what you're saying. That's what you know, Marxism and

2045
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,839
Speaker 12: Communism would want. But instead, you know, what I decided

2046
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,480
Speaker 12: to do is just you know, be the god fearing, spiritual,

2047
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 12: hopeful man that I am and say, okay, well, you

2048
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 12: know understanding how the world really really really works now

2049
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 12: and I don't think what we're seeing today is probably

2050
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 12: any different than what they've seen over the last thousands

2051
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 12: of years. That humanity has been around. I think the

2052
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 12: world just works that way. But within that, how do

2053
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 12: we operate where we cannot just survive but thrive? And

2054
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 12: that's where I look towards, you know, divinity and embracing

2055
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 12: our own individual God given talents and creativity and finding

2056
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 12: our own way outside of the proverbial matrix. And so

2057
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 12: I go into a lot of that in the book

2058
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 12: as well. But we live in very, very strange.

2059
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 5: Times where.

2060
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 12: Reality can be manipulated faster than you can and scroll

2061
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 12: uh on your Instagram feed from one post to the next.

2062
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:06,719
Speaker 5: They can literally they.

2063
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 12: Can literally change it in real time. And I shouldn't

2064
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 12: even say day because it's not even days anymore. It's

2065
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 12: all machines and it's automation now. So whereas ten years

2066
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,480
Speaker 12: ago it was it required humans to call Mark Zuckerberg

2067
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 12: and say, hey, you are going to censor any conservatives

2068
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 12: or you are going to censor all.

2069
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 5: Of these companies, right you?

2070
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Speaker 12: In fact, I mean I was also caught up in

2071
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 12: that fish in that as well.

2072
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the FBI situated in offices over at

2073
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Speaker 2: Facebook for example, doing just that.

2074
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Speaker 12: I know, like the the most unbelievable, the most incredible

2075
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 12: overreach of government power.

2076
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 5: And I mean you.

2077
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Speaker 12: Want to talk about violations of you know, Fourth Amendment

2078
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 12: with Americans, right, you know, uh like protecting against the

2079
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 12: lawful search and seizure. I mean you got freedom of

2080
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 12: speech was completely crushed, and if you stepped outside of

2081
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 12: the COVID narrative, for example, you were absolutely destroyed. I

2082
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 12: was running a company at the time. Ironically it happened

2083
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 12: to be a telehealth company called Remote Health Solutions, and

2084
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 12: I went up, I went out, spoke out against the

2085
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 12: COVID narrative, and we were canceled on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Google,

2086
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 12: We couldn't run ads, we lost our commercial insurance, we

2087
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 12: lost every single one of our Defense Department contracts that

2088
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 12: we had won at the time. I mean, destroy just

2089
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 12: goes on and on and on.

2090
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 2: It was.

2091
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 12: It was ad nauseam until they literally destroyed my company.

2092
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 12: So I'm like, great, I've been fired from the CIA.

2093
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 12: I started a company three years later they destroyed that.

2094
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 12: I'm like, at what point, you know, am I going

2095
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 12: to stop being you know, pushed around, just for for

2096
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 12: standing up for literally the os of office that I took.

2097
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 2: And you go back to air Colders, Justice Department of

2098
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 2: Operation choke hold. Legitimate businesses were told that, the banks

2099
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: were told do not work with them, or you were

2100
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 2: going to get a compliant and saught it. We're going

2101
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 2: to climb through your books and records with a fine

2102
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: tooth comb. Do you want that? Do you want to

2103
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 2: lawyer up and prepare for that? Or you want to

2104
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 2: just quit doing business with this particular entity. Atrocious abuse

2105
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 2: of power, just one of many that Adam Harden could

2106
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 2: probably go on ad nausema back, get a copy of

2107
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 2: the Alpha Blueprint his book and learn more. But going

2108
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: really quickly here back to Jay sixth. Now we've identified,

2109
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: or they have tentatively identified this SHAWNE. Kirkhoff Capitol police officers,

2110
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 2: the person who planted the bombs. Now it's not one

2111
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,640
Speaker 2: hundred percent certain. Artificial intelligence looking at her gate and

2112
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 2: her image and all that seems to have narrowed this

2113
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: down sufficiently to look into it. Here we are. It's

2114
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, Adam, and it took some independent investigators

2115
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 2: to do it. The FBI has been busily rounding up

2116
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 2: every single human being in a five mile square area

2117
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 2: of the J six protest, and they found all of them.

2118
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: They prosecuted in the fullest extent of the law. Why

2119
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 2: didn't they go after the person right away who planted

2120
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 2: the bombs? My friend?

2121
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 5: Oh, you know, let's dig even deeper.

2122
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 12: Let's let's by the way as the power you would say,

2123
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 12: you know, don't look under that rock, don't kick that

2124
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 12: one over. But pulling that back a little bit more,

2125
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 12: were those bombs even uh, you know active, Did they

2126
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 12: have any active ingredients? And I certainly doubt it. I

2127
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 12: would imagine that those were inert planet that she was

2128
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 12: probably tasked to do that and give it a cush

2129
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 12: job afterwards, and all for political gain, and you know,

2130
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 12: to destroy basically.

2131
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 5: A lot of it.

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Speaker 12: I believe that January sixth, the COVID narrative, all of

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Speaker 12: that stuff was all wrapped up together with various attempts

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Speaker 12: to unseat a duly elected president and to usher in

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Speaker 12: a soft coup or a color revolution, you know, against

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Speaker 12: the American people. It's I mean, it's just it's and

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Speaker 12: it's when one thing didn't work there, what's the next

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Speaker 12: thing to the next thing, to the next thing. So

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Speaker 12: it's the indictments, it's the Arctic cross it's the crossfire hurricane,

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Speaker 12: it's you know, it's all the things that we've talked about,

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Speaker 12: and it just went on and on, and I don't

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Speaker 12: know how President Trump is still standing. And he actually

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Speaker 12: looked younger and better and stronger than he did before.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, I pass off to you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 12: It's like, don don Junior talk about him, and he's like,

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Speaker 12: He's like, the man hasn't slept in three days and

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Speaker 12: he's still going. You know, I kick quit now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like it's like cancer feeding off sugar. He

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Speaker 2: feeds off of his political oppositions, anger and hatred toward him.

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Speaker 2: He lives rent free in all their heads and that

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Speaker 2: gets him out of bed every single day, to the

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Speaker 2: extent even goes to bed. Adam hard.

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Speaker 6: I was just going to.

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Speaker 5: Say, the White House memes are unbelievable. Yeah, they're coming out.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's using social media finally to a conservative advantage. Adam Hartage,

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Speaker 2: he knows all about it. Get a copy of his book.

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Speaker 2: Joe Strecker's put it on my blog page fifty five

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Speaker 2: KC dot com. The Alpha Blueprint Preparing the Next Generation

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Speaker 2: for an AI future. Adam, thanks for speaking truth to

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Speaker 2: power and for revealing what's going on behind the scenes,

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01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 2: and for your courage and commitment to do just that.

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Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for spending time with my

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Speaker 2: listeners of me today, and I hope someday got down

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Speaker 2: the road we get to have you back on the

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Speaker 2: show any so we have Strecker around for he looks

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Speaker 2: into these things.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Joe.

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Speaker 2: We are back to a recurring theme with the column today,

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Speaker 2: which is can the president disrupt free speech? And I

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Speaker 2: had you know, I went back and forth just a

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Speaker 2: little bit yesterday. I had some outstanding questions. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the right to peace, lea assemble, We're talking about

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Speaker 2: the First Amendment, right to free speech. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: prior restraint on free speech. And welcome back one of

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Speaker 2: our favorite cases, Brandenburg versus Ohio. Let's walk through the

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Speaker 2: history of this, because I did not real I couldn't

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Speaker 2: recall the president Woodrow Wilson arrested people for merely reading

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Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence.

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Speaker 15: Well, not only did he arrest people for reading the

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Speaker 15: Declaration of Independence, he arrested some of his former students

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Speaker 15: when he was the president of Princeton. They were freshmen.

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Speaker 15: By the time they were seniors he was the president

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Speaker 15: of the United States. He was only the governor of

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Speaker 15: New Jersey for eighteen months when he ran for and

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Speaker 15: was elected president. Now, I don't know if they did

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Speaker 15: this to taunt him, if they did this to deter

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Speaker 15: people from registering for the draft. But he was of

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Speaker 15: the view that any speech which deterred people from registering

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Speaker 15: for the draft, men for registering for the draft in

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Speaker 15: time of war, was an interference with the war effort,

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Speaker 15: and therefore was criminal. When he was challenged in a

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Speaker 15: press conference. There are two interesting footnotes to this. One

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Speaker 15: is this one when he was challenged in a press

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Speaker 15: conference about how he could arrest people for speech. This

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Speaker 15: former professor of constitutional law at Princeton University said, read

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Speaker 15: the First Amendment. It says Congress shall make no law

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Speaker 15: bridging the freedom of speech. There's nothing in there about

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Speaker 15: the president. Now you're laughing, because if you had given

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Speaker 15: that answer in an exam in constitutional law in a

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Speaker 15: law school, you'd flown.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe he actually answer said that, okay.

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Speaker 15: Because he's saying that because he was not restrained, he

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Speaker 15: was at liberty to do it. This is the Wilsonian

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01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 15: view of the government. It's the opposite of the Madisonian view. Madisonian,

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Speaker 15: which was, with the exception of the Civil War years,

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Speaker 15: pretty much followed from Washington up to the time of Wilson,

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Speaker 15: was that the federal government is limited to do that

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Speaker 15: which is it is expressly authorized to do in the Constitution.

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Speaker 15: The Wilsonian view is the federal government can do anything

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Speaker 15: for which there is a national problem, and the national

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Speaker 15: political will accept that which is expressly prohibited to it

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Speaker 15: in the Constitution. So these two views of the federal

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Speaker 15: government are the opposite. The other interesting fun fact who

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Speaker 15: arrested these Princeton students, A young feal agent by the

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Speaker 15: name of John Edgar Hoover.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that answers the question right there. Hey, ja.

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Speaker 15: So as a result of not this arrest, but many others,

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Speaker 15: the DOJ Wilson's Department of Justice persuaded I'm happy not

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Speaker 15: a reluctant Supreme Court to permit these suppressions. First, they

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Speaker 15: came up with a bad tendency test. If speech would

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Speaker 15: have a tendency to the neutral ear to incite violence,

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Speaker 15: the speech was criminal. Then they came up with the

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Speaker 15: clear and present danger test. If the speech is a

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Speaker 15: clear and present danger to violence or to national security,

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Speaker 15: then the speech is criminal. These two monstrosities existed for

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Speaker 15: fifty years from nineteen nineteen until nineteen sixty nine, when

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Speaker 15: in Hamilton County, Ohio, a crackpot I forget his first name,

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Speaker 15: last name Brandenburg, I think it was Alvin, gave an

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Speaker 15: incendiary speech in which he condemned blacks and he condemned

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Speaker 15: Jews and said, we're going to march to Washington and

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Speaker 15: they run the government, and we're going to take it

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Speaker 15: back from them. He was prosecuted in a Hamilton County

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Speaker 15: court and convicted of criminal syndicalism basically speech which encourages violence.

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Speaker 15: Upheld by the Ohio Appellate Court, upheld by the Ohio

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Speaker 15: Supreme Court, unanimously reversed by the Federal Supreme Court invalidating

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Speaker 15: state and federal criminal syndicalism laws and giving us the

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Speaker 15: Brandenburg test, no more bad tendency test, no more clear

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Speaker 15: and present danger test. Now all innocuous speech is protected,

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Speaker 15: and all speech is innocuous when there is time, he

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Speaker 15: were time for more speech to rebut it. Even if

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Speaker 15: there isn't any more speech that robuts it, if there

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Speaker 15: is time for it, then the speaker is not liable

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Speaker 15: for the consequences of his speech, and his speech is protected.

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Speaker 2: That's the law today.

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Speaker 15: Brandenburg was cited as recently as last year by the

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Speaker 15: same nine justices who are sitting today. Notwithstanding all of this,

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Speaker 15: President Trump wants to bring back the bad tendency and

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Speaker 15: clear and present danger days because he has directed federal

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Speaker 15: law enforcement to disrupt I put the word in caps.

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Speaker 15: I didn't think my editors would let me get away

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Speaker 15: with it, but they did, to disrupt the speeches of

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Speaker 15: those whom the president believes are anti Christian, anti capitalist,

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Speaker 15: anti American. He singled out Antifa, but the language has

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Speaker 15: brought enough to cover almost any group that the law

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Speaker 15: enforcement deems to be anti Christian, anti capitalist, anti American. Look,

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Speaker 15: I'm an old fashioned pre Vatican to Latin Mass attending

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Speaker 15: Roman Catholic. You know that I am the antithesis of

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Speaker 15: anti Christian. But you have the right to be anti

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Speaker 15: Christian in America, and you have the right to express that.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I'd embrace that all day long. Before we get

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Speaker 2: to some of the subtleties on this, I'm just wondering

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Speaker 2: if there is a particular case or an illustration of

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Speaker 2: those situations that where someone has been prosecuted or held

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Speaker 2: criminally respond for whatever because there wasn't enough time to

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Speaker 2: inject counter sees.

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Speaker 15: The leading case is called Turman Yellow versus Chicago, which

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Speaker 15: is nineteen fifties, so it's before it's a precursor to

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Speaker 15: and leading up to Brandenburg. But Turman Yellow was a

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Speaker 15: Roman Catholic priest who hated Harry Truman and condemned his

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Speaker 15: use of atomic weapons and condemned his failures. Where father

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Speaker 15: termin Yellow got a little off the rails to crack

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Speaker 15: down on communists in the government. This is a Joe

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Speaker 15: McCarthy era now. And he rented a hall, got a

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Speaker 15: permit from the Chicago Police department, gave an incredibly incendiary

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Speaker 15: speech saying horrible things about Harry Truman, and the mob

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Speaker 15: descended upon him, trashed the hall, and the police barely

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Speaker 15: got him out of there with his life. Well, they

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Speaker 15: got him out of there and brought him into a

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Speaker 15: patty wagon and arrested him for incendiary.

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Speaker 2: Speech, inciting a riot, basically right.

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Speaker 15: And he was convicted in a Chicago local court, upheld

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Speaker 15: in an Illinois appeals court. The Supreme Court of Illinois

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Speaker 15: didn't even want to touch it. And then it went

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Speaker 15: to the US Supreme Court five to four, not unanimous.

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Speaker 15: So it's a different court at the time we get

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Speaker 15: to Brandenburg five to four reversing his conviction. Listen to

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Speaker 15: this First Amendment speech about the government is so important

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Speaker 15: to our democracy it will even tolerate a little bit

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Speaker 15: of violence. Wow. Now they didn't arrest the people that

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Speaker 15: trashed the hall, right, they arrested the Catholic priests that

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Speaker 15: got the permit to have the gathering.

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Speaker 2: All right, now, as this applies to Antipha the st

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Speaker 2: hypothetical I pose to you, and you wrote in the

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Speaker 2: article that it is a political philosophy. Most certainly is

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Speaker 2: it's Marxist, it's communists. Label it whatever you want to

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Speaker 2: label it is it is not something divinely inspired. Isn't

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Speaker 2: arguing about a particular issue or a law that should

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Speaker 2: be passed. It's just the fundamental nature of our government.

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Speaker 2: They don't like it, they want to undermine it. They

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Speaker 2: hate capitalism, so they can scream about that all day long.

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Speaker 2: That's political speech. If, however, they are and organized in

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Speaker 2: some capacity, they're receiving money and funding an organization, they

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Speaker 2: belong to a particular group. That group's goal is to

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Speaker 2: tear down the United State of America like a terrorist

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Speaker 2: organization would. If they are organized and they commit two

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Speaker 2: or more action further and criminal actions furtherance of their goal,

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Speaker 2: are they not subject to prosecution for what there it

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Speaker 2: would be for what they're doing? Though it's I said,

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Speaker 2: you can label the mafia it's organized crime. You can

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Speaker 2: go after their activities, you can label them antifa. If

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Speaker 2: they are organized and they do commit criminal acts, you

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Speaker 2: can go after them as an entity. So does that

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Speaker 2: still stand well?

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Speaker 15: The short answer I think to your question is yes,

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Speaker 15: if this is an organized entity and it commits two

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Speaker 15: or more acts of violence, it then subjects itself to

2318
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Speaker 15: the penalties under RICO, a Racketeer Influence Corrupt Organization Act.

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Speaker 15: Why did they have to use Rico, an Italian nickname,

2320
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 15: because this was originally written to cripple the mob and

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Speaker 15: thanks to its use, I then US Attorney Rudy Giuliani,

2322
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 15: it was used to bankrupt the mob. So two or

2323
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 15: more criminal events contributing to an enterprise, a financial enterprise

2324
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Speaker 15: subject the financial enterprise to treble damages. It could it

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Speaker 15: could so be used. There are criminal Rico statutes and

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Speaker 15: civil Rico statutes I don't know what this Antifa is.

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Speaker 15: I only know that when Chris Ray, the former head

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Speaker 15: of the death of the FBI, last testified before Congress,

2329
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Speaker 15: which is now a winter of twenty four, after Donald

2330
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Speaker 15: Trump had defeated Kamala Harrison, and mister Ray knew he'd

2331
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Speaker 15: better resign or he'd be fired in a month, he said,

2332
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Speaker 15: FBI intel found that Antifa is not an organized group.

2333
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Speaker 15: It's not even a group. It's just it's just an idea.

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Speaker 15: There's no central authority, there's no central command, there's no

2335
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Speaker 15: central treasury. That's the last intel made public that we

2336
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Speaker 15: have on this. Whether there is subsequent intel or not,

2337
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Speaker 15: I don't know. It hasn't been made public.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of research out there, but the

2339
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Speaker 2: Tides Foundation, Sous Foundations, all these very very leftist, pro communist,

2340
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Speaker 2: pro globalist organizations which seem to be behind the funding.

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Speaker 2: At least that's what it's been largely suggested. Now. I

2342
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Speaker 2: suppose this will all play out ultimately if it's investigated.

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Speaker 2: But in so far as raised, can you know conclusions.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps it was the timing they hadn't looked into it yet,

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Speaker 2: but I know in among my listening audience. The man

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Speaker 2: who's behind arctic frost doesn't carry a lot of weight

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Speaker 2: in terms of his.

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Speaker 15: Well, there's no question about that. I mean, the Arctic

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Speaker 15: for US thing is very unusual. Senator Ted Cruz, who's

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Speaker 15: a graduate of Harvard Law School who clerked to the

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Speaker 15: Supreme Court of the United States but doesn't practice law, said,

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Speaker 15: you guys tapped my phones. They didn't tap his phones.

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Speaker 15: They got metadata who called home from what number? Two,

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Speaker 15: what number and for how long? Now I condemn that,

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Speaker 15: but the statutes for which Senator Cruz voted here we

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Speaker 15: go permit the government to do that without a subpoena

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Speaker 15: or a search warrant.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for reminds if.

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Speaker 15: The government wants the telecom not to tell the customer

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Speaker 15: that the government has metadata, they go to a judge,

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Speaker 15: and the statute permits that. I just don't think that

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Speaker 15: these members of Congress who voted for this ever imagined

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Speaker 15: it would be used against them exactly.

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Speaker 2: But the opportunity that it could be was enough to

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Speaker 2: say no in the first place. And you pointed out

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Speaker 2: time and time again exactly the way it should have been.

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Speaker 15: One of those who screamed the loudest and I'm not

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Speaker 15: a fan of his, but I have to be into ellectually,

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Speaker 15: be honest, he did vote against this all the time,

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Speaker 15: that Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. But these authorities that

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Speaker 15: Jack Smith used, many of them go back. Some go

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Speaker 15: back to the Reagan ere ra. Most go back to

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Speaker 15: the Patriot Act era, right after nine to eleven. They're reprehensible.

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Speaker 15: They all violate the Fourth Amendment. They've never been passed

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Speaker 15: upon by the Supreme Court, but Congress voted for it,

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Speaker 15: and most of them expire every five years and Congress

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Speaker 15: reenacts them every five years. You'll see that happening during

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump's current term.

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Speaker 2: Always get the truth from you, Judge and Napolitan will

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Speaker 2: be listening for Judging Freedom your podcast. We're out of time.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to elaborate on that, but you know how

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Speaker 2: much I love having you in the show, and I

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Speaker 2: certainly appreciate your willingness to come on every week. Can

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Speaker 2: the President disrupt free speech? Find the calum tonight after midnight,

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Speaker 2: Judge until next week, have a fantastic week, my friend.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Brian all the best.

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Speaker 2: I'd love you, Hey forty five ift Morning Show. Because

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02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 2: a long time ago, in a shopping mall not that

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Speaker 2: far away. There's a humanitarian named Bob Wedderer who had

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Speaker 2: an idea that he wanted to make lives better for

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02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 2: troubled teens in the area. So he decided he was

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Speaker 2: going to put a tree on it with tags with

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Speaker 2: the name and give suggestions for those teens at this facility.

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Speaker 2: And that man, Bob Wetter, is on the program now

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Wish Tree program he started forty

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Speaker 2: one years ago. Bob Wedder, Welcome back. You missed a

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Speaker 2: humanitarian and a person that everybody knows is Santa Claus

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Speaker 2: around this time of year.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Brian. Yes, at that time it seems litorally,

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Speaker 16: but it's wonderful. The Purple Beeple Bridge is lighting their

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Speaker 16: tree on Friday night and they have for the past

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Speaker 16: few years invited us to come and put a tree

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Speaker 16: at the south side of the Newport Levy and on

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Speaker 16: Friday night, the Mayor of Newport they've purchased the bridge

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Speaker 16: and they will have it lit and we'll be there

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Speaker 16: to light the wish tree.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Is it a real big tree you got

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Speaker 2: for that one, Bob. That's like a very prominent spot

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Speaker 2: there Oh.

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Speaker 16: That's about a forty five footer. I'd say maybe even bigger.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't reach up to the top of that,

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Speaker 2: but to pull an ornament off. But the point is

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have ornaments on the tree, and those ornaments

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Speaker 2: are does the child in need fill out that ornament saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, I could really use, you know, a bag

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02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 2: of socks or a winter coat or whatever, and that

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Speaker 2: has their name on it. How does that all work? Bob?

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Speaker 16: The organization fills out the ornaments of what they need

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02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 16: to give to the children and to the seniors, so

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Speaker 16: all the tags. Basically, everybody gives me two hundred ornaments

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Speaker 16: for that tree. And there's sixteen different organizations that are

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Speaker 16: on that tree. So we fill it throughout the season

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Speaker 16: and they're all laminated on that tree.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 16: But what's good is the Bagels play Pittsburgh on Sunday,

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Speaker 16: so hopefully people coming are going to the game will

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Speaker 16: see it. Whole extra ornaments that way also.

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Speaker 2: There you but.

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Speaker 16: They've been very kind to letting us put that tree.

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Speaker 16: I'd say it's been five years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's a wonderful addition because what you also have, and

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Speaker 2: this is why I also wanted to encourage maybe some

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Speaker 2: businesses out there. I know there are places like I

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Speaker 2: believe Ron's Roost is one of them, always have a

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Speaker 2: tree at their business. You invite businesses to put a

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Speaker 2: wish tree in their business that you'll be happy to deliver, right.

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Speaker 16: Right, we have a little over three hundred.

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Speaker 5: We'd love to get more.

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Speaker 16: Our big number was many many years ago, and we

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Speaker 16: were up to seven hundred for one year, but then

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Speaker 16: time change. People wanted me to go outside of up

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02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 16: in Montgomery County and everywhere. I couldn't control that, so

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02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 16: we stuck with Cincinnati, northern Kentucky, and one or two

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Speaker 16: trees Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Huh bob, It sounds to me like there needs to

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02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 2: be another chapter or two of the wiz Tree program

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Speaker 2: opening up out there. Nobody's stopping anybody from doing that, right.

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Speaker 16: No, No, as long as I know that it's legit

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Speaker 16: and they're going to do what we've done, we'll be

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Speaker 16: happy to take that portion on. But can't do it

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Speaker 16: with one person or two people.

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Speaker 2: No, just said, you need some elves working for you.

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Speaker 2: I guess Rebecca Grappi is not in the neighborhood because

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Speaker 2: I know you have at least one elf.

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Speaker 6: She's back.

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Speaker 16: Good, he came home last night.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 16: You will be down at the We'll be down at

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Speaker 16: the Turple Bridge today at one o'clock. We're gonna put

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Speaker 16: the tags on it. We were gonna do it yesterday,

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Speaker 16: but it was little windy, little rainy and snowy, so

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Speaker 16: we're going back at one o'clock today. I've got five

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Speaker 16: or six people. We're going to start hanging tags. Anybody

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Speaker 16: want to stop buying hanging tags? Hey, we'll be there

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Speaker 16: to take.

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Speaker 2: The help get you in the holiday spirit. And there

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Speaker 2: are so many organizations they're going to be bringing the

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Speaker 2: ornaments for these trees. A caring place, you got Bluebird

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Speaker 2: bus a Home, Holy Cross Elementary, Holy Family Well, Jeff

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Speaker 2: Wiler's Boys and Girls Club of Greater Cincinnati, the Learning

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Speaker 2: Grow Mount Washington School, ninth District elementary schools. The schools

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Speaker 2: obviously are in touch with the needs of some of

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Speaker 2: the underserved children. So that's actually I'm glad the school

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Speaker 2: districts have teamed up with you. But I just I

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Speaker 2: just grabbed a handful of the organizations. The full list

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Speaker 2: my listeners can find. Also, if you're a business that

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Speaker 2: wants to put a tree up it's wish Tree program

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Speaker 2: dot org, wish Tree program dot or Joe put a

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Speaker 2: link to that up on my blog page as well. Bob. Right, so,

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Speaker 2: and now they follow up the next step. So you

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02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 2: get the ornament from whatever tree you grab it from,

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02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 2: you get the gift and then you bring it back

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Speaker 2: to the business where you grab the ornament or do

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Speaker 2: you How does the collection process work? Bob Wetter.

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Speaker 16: Before COVID, that's how it totally worked. Now people a

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Speaker 16: lot of people like the idea. They go on to Amazon,

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02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 16: they have it delivered straight to the charity and a

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02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:02,200
Speaker 16: as we still go out and pick up from the

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Speaker 16: location because a lot of my generation we like to

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Speaker 16: put my hands on it deliver it back. Yeah, I know,

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02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:14,440
Speaker 16: a younger generation they love that computer.

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Speaker 2: It does make it easy. I meant you, at least

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02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:24,040
Speaker 2: the computer has facilitated the ease of giving and helping

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02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:25,840
Speaker 2: out this time of year. So I'm not going to

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02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:26,840
Speaker 2: put through the idea, but.

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Speaker 16: Right there is no reason not to give because if

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02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 16: you think about it right now, you can get on

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02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:38,400
Speaker 16: your phone, make the purchase and you've done something good

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02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 16: and you put a smile Christmas Day. You know, when

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02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 16: you wake up your health. A lot of people with

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02:15:45,200 --> 02:15:47,560
Speaker 16: money gifts. There's a big help to everybody.

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02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 2: And I know it gets you out of bed in

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Speaker 2: the morning knowing the good work you're doing for all

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Speaker 2: these underserved teams and children out there. Wish Tree program

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Speaker 2: dot org. Mister humanitarian himself, call him Santa Claus. You

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02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:59,040
Speaker 2: will be at listener lunch. You price will chill you

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Speaker 2: the first Wednesday of December, right.

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Speaker 16: Bob, Absolutely bring your guests to that one. I've already

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02:16:06,200 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 16: talked to them. And they have a tree. Shelley has

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02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:13,480
Speaker 16: a tree. Yes, they always have a tree. We got

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Speaker 16: one more plug. The water towers lint every night in

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Speaker 16: Mount Washington now thanks to everybody and a lot of

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Speaker 16: your listeners helped a lot with that also. And we

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Speaker 16: have our spaghetti dinner Saturday. Our location is on Corbley

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02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:31,960
Speaker 16: Road in Mount Washington, next to Sands at the United

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02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 16: Methodists malw Washington United Methodists. It's four to seven. You

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02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:43,879
Speaker 16: get salad from Chapolti, you get spaghetti and meatball from

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02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:50,680
Speaker 16: the Roses, cheese from gold Star, you get There's Kate

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02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:55,720
Speaker 16: from Servadis, and you get lemonade, coffee or tea, all

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02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,800
Speaker 16: for ten dollars and it's one hundred percent of profit

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02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:01,560
Speaker 16: for us, so it goes to that tower so we

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Speaker 16: can be led every night in Mount.

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Speaker 2: Washington Tower beautification brought to you again by Bob Wetter

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02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:08,880
Speaker 2: and all those who helped out. Bob Wetter, thanks again

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02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:11,039
Speaker 2: for the work that you do for those underserved. Wish

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Speaker 2: Tree program dot orger just remember fifty five cars dot

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Speaker 2: com or Joe's put Away. Bob, I'll see you in

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Speaker 2: a few weeks over at Price Sal Chili right for

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Speaker 2: the final Listener lunch of the year, and I hope

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Speaker 2: to see you there too, My friend listener friends, uh

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Speaker 2: Brigha mcgawan from the Hudson Institute charge