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Speaker 1: Has Hargrave already signed with the Packers? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Can you looked that up?

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Speaker 3: Because here's the headline at something called Lombardiavenue dot com.

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Speaker 3: Lombardi Avenue dot com.

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Speaker 1: Well, who do they cover?

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Speaker 3: Vikings just gifted the Packers a must sign free agent

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Speaker 3: to bolster defense by Freddie Boston wrote it thirty two

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Speaker 3: minutes ago. Packers desperately need defensive line help in the

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Speaker 3: Vikings may have just assisted them in their search for

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Speaker 3: reinforcements and free agency.

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Speaker 1: I I haven't seen somebody is texting us that, uh.

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Speaker 3: He's already in Green Bay or assigned or will be

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Speaker 3: signed by the by the Packers.

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Speaker 1: I've not seen that via x yet. Have you have

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Speaker 1: you found it?

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Speaker 3: Well, they're saying that Jonathan Gannon Javon Hargrave connection makes

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Speaker 3: it a no brainer move for well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one guy tweeting shifty, but I don't see

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Speaker 2: Chefty tweeting that, so I'll hang on.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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Speaker 3: Let me get to some texts. Yeah, I guess it's

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Speaker 3: it's they're pouring in now. Yeah, shifty shifty. So those

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Speaker 3: are always fun, juicy stories to follow, right.

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Speaker 1: Where deal twenty three mil? Thirteen million?

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Speaker 4: This? Yea?

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Speaker 3: They didn't waste any time, did they, man, So that

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Speaker 3: could be another we didn't need them, We didn't need them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're they're right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's like six of them at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's the rest, you know, at other

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Speaker 3: positions that are because of the number of players were

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Speaker 3: we're cutting. As if Blakemore didn't take enough heat from

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Speaker 3: the Sosnami day, he also was very frontal about how

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Speaker 3: the Vikings just try and recycle old packers after the

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Speaker 3: Packers let him go, and here's Yvon Hargrave getting cut

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Speaker 3: from the Vikings and joining the pack To that extent,

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Speaker 3: Blakemore might have some explaining to do. Yeah, two years,

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Speaker 3: did you say twenty three mil? Yes, that's what's being

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Speaker 3: reported at least five minutes ago from Chefty. Where did

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Speaker 3: it go. I had another Oh, if a narrative has

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Speaker 3: been debunked, will Dan let it be? That's from two

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Speaker 3: one eight guy, Well, it depends on what narrative he's

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Speaker 1: Nothing's been debunked.

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Speaker 3: On Kyler Murray, the good and the bad. It's a

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Speaker 3: mixed bag. He's not a terrible quarterback, although I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Our next guest may say is I'm not sure, but

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Speaker 3: here's what I am going to rebel against. The moment

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Speaker 3: we get him, we start looking at him a whole

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Speaker 1: That won't happen on this show.

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Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't mean once he's here you don't give

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Speaker 3: him eventually a chance to play and to see what

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Speaker 3: with Sam Darnold, for example. But the idea, I guess

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Speaker 3: it's that it's human nature. I'm not sure I love him,

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Speaker 3: But then we got him, and then you know, all

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Speaker 3: you start concentrating on are the things that are supposed

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Speaker 3: to make you feel better about him.

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Speaker 1: Well, the record.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't change just because he becomes a member of the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: His record and his production, those are on his resume

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Speaker 3: and there's plenty to like, and there's plenty to be

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Speaker 3: a reason why he's available.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as intriguing as it is, and maybe he can

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Speaker 1: There's a reason no matter how much he was being paid.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if he was viewed as still being good enough,

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Speaker 3: you pay it, especially when you already you could say,

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Speaker 1: You don't have to go out and get anybody else.

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Speaker 3: There was another one, uh, the one I'm referring to

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Speaker 3: my negativity, JJ is made of glass. No rogers that

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just wants Kyler Murray. Oh maybe that's what

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Speaker 2: I mean in school, like you, I could say that

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Speaker 3: But I'm inferring that's what that Texter means. Why does

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Speaker 3: Dan have to spend everything negative?

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Speaker 1: It might well be my dad's number two.

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Speaker 3: Eight might be the burner one. Yeah, that's exactly it.

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Speaker 3: Kyler is worth investing in. I say again, well, here's

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Speaker 3: Warren Sharp remember him.

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Speaker 3: Football NFL Insider Out of thirty six quarterbacks last year,

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy ranked this is out of thirty six, thirty

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Speaker 3: fifth inaccuracy thirty sixth and third down conversion rate thirty

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Speaker 3: he's given you plenty with which you have rope to

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Speaker 3: do that, if you think it's necessary, that's on him.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's just on the head coach. I

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Speaker 3: just want to feel appreciably better about the answer. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is a better quarterback, but to what end

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Speaker 3: And we talked about a tweet yesterday. I think there's

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Speaker 3: can't afford to wait to find out how much football

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Speaker 3: he might eventually have with him.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: What's that he's gonna We're talking about it yesterday with Murray.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna end up with.

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Speaker 3: The Rams Kyler ky He's going to be the heir

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Speaker 3: apparent And in two years, no, not Kyler, JJ oh JJ.

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Speaker 3: If Kyler comes here, that's what he's going to go

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Speaker 1: And we're going to lose our minds at that point.

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Speaker 1: You will lose your mind at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but my scars are so deep from Vikings quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm as affected, so as negatively as

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Speaker 2: I should be by how bad it's been.

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Speaker 1: I get your point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That tweet was from Justin Redlin, who tweeted us both today.

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Speaker 2: I love this, Yes, he said Barrero on Guards, he said,

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Speaker 2: I did yours yours truly tweet in their opening segment

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Speaker 2: of Bumper to Bumper yesterday, stop back for more insightful Vikings.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Wealth played. Yeah, very well played. So everybody

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Speaker 3: That's it, all right, let's pause, and let's get another

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Speaker 3: opinion on Kyler Murray from a Saint Louis Cardinals fan,

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Speaker 3: a Cardinals fan for most of his life, who called

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Speaker 3: or texted me today to say, I'm available if you

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Speaker 3: need if your market needs a Kyler Murray intervention, because

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to plead that the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 3: drafting JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I talked to or been texted, received

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Speaker 1: A gratuitous text.

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Speaker 3: It appeared, demanding to know whether people in this market

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Speaker 3: believe that Kyler Murray is a better quarterback than JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I wonder who this could be.

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Speaker 3: And it turns out it's Tim Kyllishaw, former colleague going

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Speaker 4: I'm here to help Danny. I'm here to do all

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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, Star.

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Speaker 4: Sands are gonna be finally gonna hate Minnesota as much

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Speaker 4: for Jason Robertson in the whole Team USA thing. But anyway, anyway, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: my concern. The Cowboys aren't involved. But it's like, wait,

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Speaker 4: the Vikings want Kyler Murray to do? What have they

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Speaker 4: texted him for the last twenty years. And then we

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Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury. I am a Cliff Kingsbury guy. Another thing

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Speaker 3: People who may say to you, I don't love Kyler either,

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Speaker 3: Well, I I'm basically where you are on him. I

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Speaker 3: I said, if those are literally your choices, I would

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Speaker 3: let's just see. I'm I'm not overwhelmed in either case.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'll play devil's advocate to my own position in yours.

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Speaker 4: The Vikings there are obviously a lot better organization than

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Speaker 4: Obviously not? What time is it I'm calling you during?

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Speaker 3: I'm seventy one. Yeah, I turned seventy one in jail.

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Speaker 4: Myers is seventy one, Horn is about to turn seventy one.

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Speaker 4: I'm seventy one at the other month. But as far

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Speaker 4: I get it some of these, and you have to

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Speaker 3: as a result because you were on there, you were

437
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: prisoner to it, or whether you guys ever rebelled against

438
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 3: it or were able to carve out any sort of distinction.

439
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: And the best example I can think of is, so

440
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: the Celtics get back their best player what's his name

441
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: off of injury, Jason Tatum. I saw problems with names always.

442
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: I did when I was thirty alone.

443
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: You have a problem with Celtics.

444
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: You have a problem that might have something to do.

445
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: I have known that for forty years.

446
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: How's more Lakers guys?

447
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: You know?

448
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: But so Tatum comes back and immediately what's the ESPN

449
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: debate point?

450
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: It's whose team is it?

451
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: Is it Jalen Brown's or it's like Tatum.

452
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: It's like, there's a million good things to explore about it.

453
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: Return, Why do you have to create nonsense that's not

454
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: worth debating?

455
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: Were you prisoners of that on around the Horn?

456
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: Yes? I feel like it were. And we we'd have

457
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: we would have conference calls in the morning and you

458
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: could try to talk to the producers like, oh I really,

459
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: you know, well we could do something else, right, Sometimes

460
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: we would, but sometimes people wanted that, and sometimes somebody

461
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: would be adamant about j Brown. Yeah, I guess we're

462
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 4: gonna do it. So yeah, I mean you had a

463
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: hand in it, but they laid the show out. Then

464
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: we had a conference call the last about forty time

465
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: minutes and that was fun and that that was very

466
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: helpful in you know, forming some somewhat coherent thoughts to

467
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: the level we ever got to.

468
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

469
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like trapped by you know, and

470
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: it's we try you know, we would make fun of

471
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: first take and the things they did and and get

472
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 4: up and you know, and everything on that network is

473
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 4: you know, it's this Dacks make or break year? How

474
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: many make or break years? Is the ad? Why is

475
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: it all of it? Yeah, he's pretty good and their

476
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 4: defense gave up thirty points a game. What's that gonnais?

477
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 4: Is just you know, they have they have the Cowboys,

478
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: they have Lebron, they have certain targets. The Celtics are

479
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: right in there, and they're just gonna that thing. Even

480
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 4: winning a championship that there's some reason that taintum Brown thing.

481
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: We discussed that a number of times three or four

482
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: years ago before they won one. But they'd been to

483
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Speaker 4: the finals. They played the Warriors, I mean, they were

484
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: obviously pretty good. Yes, and they've been to another conference

485
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: finals I think and lost to Miami. I mean so

486
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: just because they hadn't finished the job. I mean, it

487
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: wasn't all about chemistry, but that was a big story

488
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: in Yeah, Boston, and so we just yeah, hysterical that.

489
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been back for five minutes and we're

490
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: trying to decide if he's taking the team away from

491
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: Jalen Brown.

492
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: Who yeah, exactly and even five minutes, it was thirty seconds.

493
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: So on the show, name me the panelist who, in

494
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: your harder hearts annoyed you the most.

495
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: You expect me to answer that? Well, I know the look. Look,

496
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 4: somebody left the show kind of early. I wanted to

497
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: get into that. So away from that, yeah, that's fair,

498
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: I'll give you a different one. I'll here's the thing.

499
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: The truth at the very beginning, obviously was Woody and

500
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: I called the producers like Bill Wolf three weeks into

501
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: the show back, that's when we started out. We're kind

502
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: of doing the show every day. I'm a three or

503
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: four days a week guy. Woody and Jay are five

504
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: days a week, and it's and Woody is just playing

505
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: it for everything to lapse, the gags and we went

506
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: in order around the dial and Denver would be up

507
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: in the one spot and I'd be in the two.

508
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: So I'm always going after him and these things. And

509
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 4: I called the Wolf and I said, this is you

510
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: got to do something about Woody. He's just doing everything

511
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: for gags and I always have to follow him. And

512
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: there's no you know, there's no flow to the answer,

513
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: because whatever we're talking about, he is just you know,

514
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: he's he's beeping horns or whatever he's doing, putting on

515
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: clown masks and doing all things. And Bill Wolf said,

516
00:28:50,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: Tim wood is the star of the show. And Okay,

517
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: I guess I understand that. TV Org.

518
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: Uh, we're talking about Woody Page, the Denver legend. In fact,

519
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: he was.

520
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Just on Kevin Faulness, who's a big time hockey radio

521
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: guy here on the Wild Radio Network on the Fan,

522
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: and he used to work with Woody a long time ago,

523
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: and he was filling in for the nine to noon guy,

524
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Paul Allen, who's the voice of the Vikings, and he

525
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: had him on and it's funny because he couldn't get

526
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: Woody off the show. I mean, he just he kept

527
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: going because you know what Woody gets gets wound up.

528
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: There ain't no stopping him even now.

529
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: There. Yeah, there's no, you know you have commercials in TV.

530
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: You haven't radio. I realized it. Yeah, but uh, he

531
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: has no filter that sort of thing. He has no

532
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: sense of Gosh, I've been on for twenty minutes here,

533
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 4: maybe I should shut up, right. Uh No, he's going

534
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: to go until the button's push. But I mean that's

535
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 4: also it made him funny. He's a good what he's

536
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: a good friend. I went to one of his weddings.

537
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we got long, we got some fun.

538
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Speaker 1: That's very good.

539
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I got I got a Kyrie Irving question for you?

540
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: Do you do you believe he's still here?

541
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's I'm asking you. I think he is, But

542
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: is he ever? Do you think he might ever be available?

543
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: If let's say the Wolves don't make it again to

544
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: at least the conference finals, and they ultimately say, look,

545
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: we've tried to basically make Anthony Edwards be our point

546
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: guard when he when he really isn't and we thought

547
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: it would work, or we did it out of necessity.

548
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: Mike Conley's too long in the tooth at this point

549
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: to have that major responsibility.

550
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: So is he would he be gettable?

551
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: Do you think or do you think Dallas is committed

552
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: to the notion of pairing him with the kid.

553
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: I think there's a curiosity to see how he does

554
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: in the flag, but I certainly would think any kind

555
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: of offer. I mean, they got rid of uh, you know,

556
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: uh uh Anthony Davis, and and so they for not

557
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: a lot a curtain call and whoever they got. Yeah,

558
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 4: I mean I think he's gettable. Now who is he?

559
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: I mean he was he's very good when he's played

560
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: for Dallas and they had one lucky strats where he

561
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: played the most games. Yeah, two years ago, three years

562
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: ago that he played in the season since twenty sixteen,

563
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 4: the year the the But they've apparently took back to me, Oh,

564
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: he's always going to be available for seventy games. Let's

565
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: go get Anthony Davis. You know, we don't need to

566
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: rehash that whole thing, but yeah, I would think. You know,

567
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 4: here's the question that they still only have interim GM.

568
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: They haven't made it a decision there. Matt McCarty is

569
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: basically the guy. Michael Finley is kind of a face

570
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: for the fans, but they haven't decided who to hand

571
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: it to, and so I don't know who will be

572
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: who you would be dealing with just saying that man

573
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: is that issue in two fifteen last night?

574
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's had a good year. He had

575
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: a might have been his worst game of the season

576
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: last night. But I still think they're trying to I

577
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: know it's more of a scoring point guard league, but

578
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: he's not a point guard, right, And I think that

579
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, event and I think a lot will depend

580
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: on how it goes this year, right because Commley is

581
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: a guy who will move if he feels like we've

582
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, we're getting we're we're kind of leveling off.

583
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: But it's a name that did come up at.

584
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: The deadline because they were on the mix, uh for

585
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: your honest and they just ultimately decide to determine that the

586
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: Bucks weren't that serious about it, so I don't think

587
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: they'd ever got anywhere, but not because they weren't interested.

588
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: I even brought up the name of James Harden and

589
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: I got mocked and ridiculed by Sam Mitchell among others.

590
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: But it's just a name in the future that I

591
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: wanted to.

592
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: Fail if they could, if there is anything that looked

593
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: like a future, something that that the Timberwolves could give them,

594
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: because you know, they don't they don't have a they

595
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: don't basically haven't shot at the lottery for like the

596
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: next four or five years. This year because all the

597
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: trades Nico made and all, so, yeah, they want peo,

598
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: they want something to put around flag, so they would

599
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: they would certainly listen, whoever that person.

600
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Is, Tommy.

601
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: I got one other NBA question and then one interesting

602
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 3: text that's come in about our history. We got listeners

603
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: who pay attention. It's amazing what they remember, the stuff

604
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: I don't even remember. But so Bam gets eighty three

605
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: last night, and it's it's become kind of another one

606
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: of these litmus tests, purity tests about how you react

607
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: to it. Do you say, God bless them? It doesn't

608
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: make any sense, but God bless them. And then there's

609
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: the people who think the last seven minutes of the

610
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: game were turned into an utter mockery, first perhaps by

611
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: the Wizards with their approach, which was to follow every

612
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: time and put three people on them, and then by

613
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: Miami's saying you're not going to stop us from letting

614
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: him get more points and eventually try to surpass Kolbe.

615
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: What do we what's the proper response to what took place?

616
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: On what it was a historic night last night.

617
00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: Allegedly, that's historic nights that nobody really wants that. You know.

618
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I saw Gary palmerants on TV today,

619
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 4: you know, yes, yes, and he wrote a really cool book.

620
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: Yes, we had that book. We had mind. Yeah, it's

621
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: a great book.

622
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. And so there was stuff towards the end of

623
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: that game. The Knicks were trying to use all of

624
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: the shot clock to dribble it out to everybody knew

625
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: he was closing in, and so they were trying to

626
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: do things. And then the Warriors started fouling guys kind

627
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: of like the heat did. So I don't know how

628
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 4: perfectly clean Wilt's hundred needs to be seen. Kobe happened.

629
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: Kobe happened to get his eighty one in a close game,

630
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: our game that was close. I don't know what it was. Yeah,

631
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: it was close to the fourth quarter. This was not

632
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: close for the Wizards. So but I mean that it's

633
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: it's eighty three points for good now, I don't know.

634
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: That's when I first heard his stats. How many pree

635
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: throws did he shoot.

636
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: Over forty forty four or something?

637
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: Forty some Yeah, that's that's Dwayne Wade in the NDIA Finals.

638
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: That's a couple of games. You know, that's that's not

639
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 4: very entertaining for you know, trying to say I saw

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: a history. I saw man Adebayo make thirty six free thrusts. Lord,

641
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: but I'm not. I wouldn't kill them too much for that.

642
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think a lot of those games where

643
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: guys get seventy.

644
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: There's always weirdness, a little bit.

645
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: Of stuff done. So there was weird break.

646
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: The here the night.

647
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: In fact, I was at the game where cat how

648
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: many cat en up with the guys he over sixtiesxty three.

649
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: They almost lost the game. They messed around with so

650
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: much about getting in the ball. No, they did lose.

651
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: They did lose the game. They're right, they actually did lost. Yeah,

652
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: so there's always weirdness for sure.

653
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Larry Mondela after the game, Oh go ahead, I was

654
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: gonna say.

655
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: Larry Mondela, guy uh text is Kali Shaw the guy

656
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: who's but you thought you were pinching when you're actually

657
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: pinching the buttocks of some old cowboys player.

658
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Do you know the story he's referring.

659
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: To, Wow, you pinched somebody's butt.

660
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: I pinched I pinched the butt of Babe Lathenberg, who

661
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: at that point was not a player. I think it

662
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: was a broadcaster, wasn't he in Dallas?

663
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: From behind? Okay, well, I don't.

664
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: Remember when this was, but yes, I thought it was

665
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 3: you that I was pinching your butt.

666
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: This was a Super Bowl week, I want to say.

667
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 3: And Babe Lathenberg surround and looks at me and says hello.

668
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: And I said, oh my god, I don't know what

669
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: to tell you. Wrong but wrong. But it was Tim Kyleishaw.

670
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: And you know why I thought about pinching your butt

671
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: because of your famous story. Didn't Walter Peyton, didn't, sweetness

672
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: once pinch your butt really hard?

673
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: Give you that? Yes, Walter Peyton at a game in

674
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: eighty time, I think the only one with Super Bowl.

675
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 4: It could have been the next year. I was covering

676
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 4: the game up there. We were all gathered around. I

677
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 4: think they'd been eliminated one of those games they lost

678
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: to Washington, right, and the kicker had missed a couple

679
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: of field goals or next point is something. A bunch

680
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: of us gathered around his locker and I feel this

681
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: hard dnce on my ass and I looked around and

682
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: it's there's sweetness and he's like, leaves the man alone.

683
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: We didn't him.

684
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: That's so good. That's so good, you know, Yeah, that's

685
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: got a bit.

686
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: Does it get any.

687
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: Better than that? That's outstanding. So I taken away that

688
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: was my inspiration, uh for pinching it. I thought was

689
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: your button. It was Babe Lothenberg instead, and his credit

690
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: he took it well. He did not get seem outraged.

691
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: He didn't like the hell, who are you? What are

692
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: you doing?

693
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Because he didn't know me from mad All's well that

694
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: ends well.

695
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: He was pretty solid guy.

696
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: Seems to be. Yeah, here's the deal.

697
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of textures who say, given you

698
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: now have nothing to do in the afternoons, that you

699
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: now need to become a quarterly guest on the Bump

700
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: and a Bumper program.

701
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Quarterly quarterly, they want weekly.

702
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: But I thought that was probably gonna be a reach

703
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: for you, because I know you're very love But.

704
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, conciding what you probably pay not much?

705
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, not much at this point, I'm afraid.

706
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I used to have, you know, I used

707
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: there was one guy, give me a twenty five dollars

708
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble gift certificate. Maybe can you swing that.

709
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: We might be able to swing a panicook and Hoo's

710
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: gift certificate. Very famous pancake places doesn't even exist here anymore.

711
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Are you coming? Will you be coming in for the

712
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Stars series?

713
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 4: That's a good question, and normally no, not in the

714
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: first round, But I think this series is going to

715
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: be big enough. Yes, we're saving money on Mavericks to

716
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: playoff travel, so I'm hoping to. I'm hoping to. Did

717
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: I really do thing? I mean, these are what the

718
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: third and fourth best records in the National Hockey League

719
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: and they're going to play each other in the first round,

720
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 4: and now they both hate each other, and the fans

721
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: have always hated Dallas, now the Stars fans hate Bill

722
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: garn So I think it's gonna be a fantastic Are

723
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: Stars writers covered SMU right now? So? I was a

724
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 4: Stars game last night tomorrow there, Yeah, awfully, I'll see.

725
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: That, I hope. So it's good to chat with you.

726
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: We enjoyed the conversation.

727
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: There is somebody who's taking down my name and your

728
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: name and saying that they will remember that I brought

729
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: on deliberately another Kyler Murray hater, that I wouldn't have

730
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: put you on otherwise, And when the Vikings win a

731
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: playoff game with Kyler Murray, he's going to demand that

732
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: we both appeared together on the radio apologizing.

733
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: I'll pledge to that. I assume you will too.

734
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: Bring it on, Yeah, bring it on.

735
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: It's all part of the deal. Yeah, you're used to that.

736
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm used to being wrong. You're used to being wrong occasionally.

737
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: I've been wrong a few times. All though you may

738
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: not have heard this, my playoff predictions this year, twelve

739
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: and one against the line to the NFL playoffs, and

740
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: I had twenty nine fourteen Seattle in the Super Bowl.

741
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: And if none nuts Braven doesn't go for two, the

742
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: final score is going to be twenty nine to fourteen.

743
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: All I can say is we're happy for you. That's

744
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: how I.

745
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: I got nothing for that, but I I was on

746
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: a roll, got absolutely nothing.

747
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: All Right, that's fair enough.

748
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: What's happened again?

749
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Thanks man, good to talk with you. Will be in touch.

750
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Thanks to me, great chatting. I appreciate you.

751
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: With outstanding Tim Kalishaw, longtime Dallas legend, Dallas morning news

752
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: radio TV, around the Horn.

753
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Let's get caught up.

754
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,359
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758
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760
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: I wonder what other old cronies I could bring on.

761
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: That was the term used by the offended Kyler Obo,

762
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: bring on your old cronies.

763
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: We had Mitchell Lawrence on last week. He's an old crony.

764
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: He's a Dallas crony.

765
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: He is.

766
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: That's true. Wojowski. We haven't had him out in a while.

767
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: That's true.

768
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more wojo Oh really yeah, woj is Adrian.

769
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: I think they we got to find some way to

770
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: just distinguish between the two differentiate, among other things.

771
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Because Dallas was the longest place you worked other than here, right.

772
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that was five years right, Yeah,

773
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: that's exactly it. Bosich is like your oldest crony, Bose,

774
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: it is the oldest crony and they and none of

775
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: them like Kyler Murray.

776
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't what happened.

777
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: Something's in the water among all the cronies that that

778
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: you guys all like video times.

779
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: You're too old for video games. Maybe you don't get

780
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: what the kids these days are.

781
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I like pong.

782
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: I enjoyed playing pong. You should bring that up with

783
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: Kyler from the perchs at training camp. Shit shouldn't. I

784
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful thing, all right? Top five at five?

785
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: What do you have? Let's start with Kyler? Why not?

786
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Why not?

787
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I've got a Kirk Cousins nugget for you specifically as well.

788
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: And they're both from Diana Rassini. She's she's plugged in,

789
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: She's plugged in. This is from a couple of hours ago.

790
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: Now that Kyler Murray's release from the Cardinals is official,

791
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: the Vikings are expected to target him as a veteran

792
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: addition to their quarterback room.

793
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: Sources tell The Athletic, I think we all go yeah,

794
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: will you sent me a major?

795
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Is it?

796
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: Mike silver Piece, I haven't read. He's a big koc

797
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: Bobo is kinda so. And he made it sound basically

798
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: like it's a slam dunk. And this is like the

799
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: greatest idea in the history of football.

800
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did the thing that you're not

801
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Okay, and I go this this is interesting.

802
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: I sent it to you, yeah, because I literally just

803
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: saw it within the last five minutes. But Russini mentions

804
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: that he will be taking a visit Kyler Murray to

805
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: Minnesota and getting a physical. Now there's one sporting news

806
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: reporter that says he might be on the plane.

807
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Now, so we track it clip we did with FARV.

808
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: That's the question.

809
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, are we officially on Kyler Watch hashtag Kyler Watch?

810
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: And does Kyler Murray fly commercial or do they fly

811
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: him in privately?

812
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

813
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Privately? You think so?

814
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're sp I mean we say we're big to

815
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: How do you think we finished number one or two

816
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: in all these surveys and not even in terms of

817
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: player satisfaction without ever winning a playoff game?

818
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Private planes, there's no question about that.

819
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: So it could, as we know, theoretically, happened very quickly.

820
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: Here we may be on Kyler Watch so private. Playing

821
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: to Egan, I would assume Home and Field, is that

822
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: what that would be?

823
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: The place?

824
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: I would assume is that named after Thomas Holman?

825
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: No?

826
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: What, No, I'm sorry, I'm the idiot.

827
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: They'll just go to signature and then shoot right down,

828
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 3: all right, that be my guess. It's not Tom Holman,

829
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: it's not the yet the borders our guy.

830
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're renaming everything, so ladies, Keessler are already.

831
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: Here, already inspired.

832
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Here's the Cousins nugget. Do you know who's expected to

833
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: show interest in.

834
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: Him in Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna say the

835
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders.

836
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: Good guests.

837
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: Expect the Raiders to show interest in Cousins as they

838
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: look for a veteran quarterback condition to help presumptive number

839
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: one pick Fernando Mendoza.

840
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: That's a lot of what's the way to.

841
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: Describe Cousins and Mendoza how they talk? A perfect match? Right,

842
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: But that's almost too much. It's it's robotic. Yeah, but

843
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: it might be unfair to just to reduce it to

844
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: that because it well, to earnest is a good way

845
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: to put it. On the other thing, you can say, well,

846
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: what's all with earnest, nothing's wrong with it. But they

847
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: don't accept it. But that doesn't mean it can't be effective. Yeah,

848
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: those of us that aren't earnest, when we see it,

849
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: we don't appreciate that's correct. We go it's so earnest,

850
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: it's two buds. It's so phony. But those two. I

851
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: would love a dueling press conference with those two. That

852
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: would be thick, right, would not like that? Yeah, that's

853
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

854
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very interesting for sure, and it makes some sense,

855
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: I guess as a place that he might land. My

856
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: assumption is the intent is to start Mendoza from the beginning.

857
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: I would think so, but maybe not.

858
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: I I don't know what the their their master plan

859
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: is at this point, but I'm assuming if Cousins were

860
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: to go there, he'd under he just would accept the

861
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: reality that he's not that nobody wants him as a

862
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: starter right now, that where he can guarantee himself some

863
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: playing time this season?

864
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, isn't that what that tells you?

865
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: Because otherwise he's going to go I don't think he'd

866
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: go there if he has option where he might actually

867
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: have a better chance to play.

868
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: Last Vikings nugget, they released Jonathan Allen and Hargrave. Hardgrave

869
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: is already gone to the Packers twenty three million, thirteen

870
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: million dollars this season, but Aaron Jones is back. We said,

871
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: what was our favorite Aaron Jones A moment? And Jordan

872
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: Mason was really the only running back on roster Worth noting, well,

873
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: not anymore, because the band's getting back together. Aaron Jones

874
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: has agreed to revise his contract for twenty twenty six.

875
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: He'll make five million dollars in guaranteed money, which is

876
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: about half of what he was originally was it.

877
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: Which one of the Jackals before he was brought back said,

878
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: the Vikings, if they're thinking in terms of like thunder

879
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: and lightning, Jordan Mason be thunder and they're going to

880
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: be looking for some lightning at this point. With all

881
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: due respect Aaron Jones, who've always respected as a player,

882
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you can call him lightning. I took

883
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: lightning to mean a game breaker kind of a player.

884
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: Now those are hard to find, you know, off the

885
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: coff But I still wonder if there's going to be

886
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: another piece to this, because wouldn't it be helpful to

887
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: have a a semi game breaker at that position, no

888
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: matter who you have at quarterback. Yes, and we haven't

889
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: had that in a long time, not the running back position,

890
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: And I know it got downgraded for many years, but

891
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: I feel like it's starting to be valued again a

892
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: little bit more.

893
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: I think Sakuon Barkley changes a lot of it. Yes,

894
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: there's some other guys that have changed it. Gibbs for

895
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: the Lions. That's not again the Gibbs. Those individuals don't

896
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: grow on trees. But nevertheless, Harrison Smith will be a

897
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: post tune one release.

898
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: That's a money thing. Correct.

899
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Nobody knows exactly what he's doing yet, but at least

900
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: it buys him time.

901
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Correct.

902
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: So that is the Those are the Vikings Nuggets, the

903
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: wild one five rip. Last night you opened the show

904
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: with it for Kevin Falness, who's probably just ducked in

905
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: wondering why we haven't talked about it yet. They did

906
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: beat the Mammoth. It's Bobby Brinks world. Bobby Brings world.

907
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: We're all just living in it. If you see him

908
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: at Maynards with his buddies, don't tell Bill garn And.

909
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: He's not guys allowed to live his life. He's Brinky.

910
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: Some people think it should be Brinker, as in the Brinker.

911
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh Brinker is in Hans Brinker, which is updated reference.

912
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: But I can get that one, but sounds good. Yeah,

913
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: Brinker is not bad either. I would say, yeah, Brinker.

914
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll ask Billy Garran is going to join us

915
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: for the entire Friday edition of Enough set on television. Yeah,

916
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: if he's got a favorite nickname for him already, Bobby Brink.

917
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: He likes nicknames. He loves me. He's a hockey guy.

918
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: He's a hockey guy. They all do.

919
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: And then I mentioned finally as we wrap up the

920
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: Top five at five, I have a new Timberwolves West

921
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: Coast wellness plan. Really it's a late tip wellness plan

922
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: where I don't watch them live when especially midweek West Coast.

923
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Last night it's a ten o'clock game because I think

924
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: they were on Prime last night. They were on.

925
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: Where they on Peacock is on Peacock list, So ten

926
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: o'clock Peacock. It's a Tuesday night Because you know me,

927
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm a rube. If I watched that game last night,

928
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: given how they played, I.

929
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: Think it was actually on NBC last night, because if

930
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 3: it was a double at least the early game was NBC,

931
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: so maybe one was one of each. Regardless it was

932
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: NBC slash Peacock.

933
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: If I watched it on anything and I watched that performance,

934
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: I would have been up till four in the morning

935
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: texting my buddy Todd, reading what are you gonna do

936
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: about this team.

937
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but because I.

938
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: Went to bed, I got a good as Craig kil

939
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Moorman say, I got a good eight hours and woke

940
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: up to the news that they lost by fifteen fourteen

941
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: and wasn't that close and Aunt was one for ten

942
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: from three.

943
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not a good offensive performance at all.

944
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: They forced us into isolation mode with our two big scores,

945
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: and we didn't handle it particularly well.

946
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like and.

947
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: It was we said before the game the kiss of

948
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: death was Lebron didn't play, and the Lakers have tended

949
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: to be much better with two of their Big three

950
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: available less so with all three of the Big three,

951
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: that might have been the death sentence right there, although

952
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 3: we're still allowed as a team to play better.

953
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And a very.

954
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: Disappointing start to this trip, which we've said is a

955
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: ten game stretch in which you're playing largely teams without

956
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: standing records and teams that are in the mix in

957
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: the same section of the Western Conference playoffs as you

958
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: and our record.

959
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: Is not good against those teams. It is not.

960
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: It's well below five hundred against those teams as well.

961
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 3: So if you care about that, and I get it.

962
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: Phoenix swept us two.

963
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 3: Years ago, and then when they got to the playoffs,

964
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: everything was different. But I don't know how you come

965
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: out of a game like last night and feel particularly

966
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: confident that they're giving you the best representation of themselves.

967
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: Clippers tonight a game you can hear right here on

968
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: the fan. The Wolves yesterday before the game were a

969
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: three seed. After losing that game, they are a six

970
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: seed right now. You're in Minnesota, Timberwolves.

971
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: That's how the gap right now, like you said, like

972
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: a game between three and six, which I will continue

973
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: to say, is why the Orlando game is. Those are

974
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: the types of games that bother me because those are

975
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: ones that you don't need to you shouldn't have to

976
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: explain away as well. This league sometimes correct when you

977
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: have a stretch like the one that you're going in,

978
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: like you gotta look ahead a little bit and go, hey,

979
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: you know what we're going to l allowed to do

980
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: what we talked about that what's what Viking season where

981
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: it was early, you got a couple of games at home,

982
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: you have to win, yes, because we looked ahead and

983
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: said it's gonna get tougher. Yes, So you have to

984
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: take give yourself some margin for error and this is

985
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: not They're not giving themselves much margin for error.

986
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 2: No, so after tonight, Alan Horton pointed out they could

987
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: be the three, four, five, or six exactly like that

988
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: could all change because all those teams are in action

989
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: and they're also very tightly packed.

990
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: When we come back before Kessler, we're gonna we're almost

991
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: forced to talk baseball, not Twins baseball, but World Baseball,

992
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: Classic baseball. I am utterly and completely gobsmacked and confused

993
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: regarding the current delicate condition of the United States baseball team.

994
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: We'll get to that and a couple of other nuggets

995
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: when we returned