WEBVTT - Daniel Davis Deep Dive

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<v Speaker 1>The Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 2>829-55-KRC, The Talk Station. It is that time of week.

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<v Speaker 2>Always look forward to this time as well. There's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a few times during the week I look forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Daniel Davis Deep Dive is what we call the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the podcast, too. You can find retired Lieutenant Colonel

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Davis Deep Dive wherever you get your podcasts. And,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you can tune in every Tuesday at this

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<v Speaker 2>moment in time to hear what he has to say live.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Davis, welcome back, my friend. Pleasure having you on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's always a pleasure to be here. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you enjoy it because I thoroughly do. And

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<v Speaker 2>you've got all kinds of inside access and resources in

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<v Speaker 2>connection with these wars that are being waged around. And

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to unpackaging what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranians and the re-fortification of the nuclear sites and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on there and whether or not we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to bomb before the election or after the election, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with Vladimir Putin and Zelenskyy? Because the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump announced that he wants them to stop bombing

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<v Speaker 2>each other's oil infrastructure because we got a global shortage of,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, petroleum products, most notably diesel. Within moments of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump saying, don't break the deal, we got the Russians

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<v Speaker 2>bombing a power plant in Kiev and a thermal power

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<v Speaker 2>plant in Kharkiv, among others. They didn't listen to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now Donald Trump is calling for Zelensky to

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<v Speaker 2>step down and have a new election. Can you provide

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<v Speaker 2>a Daniel Davis deep dive unpackaging of this? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little confused of where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is more wishful thinking from President Trump because

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<v Speaker 1>he posted on True Social that both sides had agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to an energy ceasefire. And he said, you better not

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<v Speaker 1>break it. Problem is, neither side agreed to an energy ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine didn't do it. Russia didn't do it. So Russia's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was not part of our deal. diesel deal we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything about a ceasefire we're still in the

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<v Speaker 1>war we're willing to sell you diesel but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>stopping our war And then Zelensky, for his part, says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a ceasefire would be great. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, maybe you can give me a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to have a new election? You want

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<v Speaker 1>a new president? That's fine. We'll do that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>need two months of a complete and total ceasefire in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get ready for the elections or something, which

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians have said, yeah, that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll give you a few days, maybe, and we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>a complete ceasefire so you can have your elections, but

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<v Speaker 1>on our terms, not on yours. And of course, now

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<v Speaker 1>the war continues on. Zelensky, just this morning, posted one

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<v Speaker 1>more time. He said, for the second straight night, we

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<v Speaker 1>did not attack any of the Russian energy infrastructure, implying

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<v Speaker 1>that that's got an expiration date. And if I keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting hit, I'm going to go back to hitting two.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll find out what President Trump does in between.

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<v Speaker 1>But just one point, this happened also on the 14th

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<v Speaker 1>of September, where Trump declared on Truth Social that both

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<v Speaker 1>sides had agreed to an energy ceasefire. And that time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Ukraine that launched an attack against Russian infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>within three hours of And this time it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians that did, but the Russians never agreed to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a big mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and we had that memorandum of understanding with the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranians that about five minutes after that thing was signed,

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<v Speaker 2>the Iranians started bombing boats. I just ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sound like I'm being overly critical

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump, but it seems to me that there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be some strategy because quite often he comes out

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<v Speaker 2>and says something that is just not accurate in this

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<v Speaker 2>particular case. He said out loud, both parties agree to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it. I know it. The realities of what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in real world time with the bombing, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>agree to it. They came out loud and said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would he subject himself to that kind of criticism?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something that I'm missing in the strategy on

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<v Speaker 2>saying it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there might be something that we're just not willing

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<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge because it's uncomfortable. And that is that President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump could be having some genuine cognitive decline problems. Because yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw yesterday afternoon, One of

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<v Speaker 1>the reporters out in front of the White House asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, hey, you said that there was an agreement

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides, but both sides said there was no agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say? And he goes, you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>There was an agreement. You know why? Because I said

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<v Speaker 1>there was. And, you know, everybody's kind of looking at

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<v Speaker 1>each other like, what? Just because you say it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that it's true. But somehow in his mind that

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<v Speaker 1>did because he was pretty angry about it. And now

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody else, and that means Zelensky, that means the Europeans,

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<v Speaker 1>that means the Russians, everybody's got to try to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what is President Trump going to do? What does

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<v Speaker 1>he mean? And if we don't do what he imagines

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<v Speaker 1>we agree to, what is he going to do in response?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, that's both sides, adversaries and allies alike.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have to try to figure it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is no way to do international business.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's kind of my take on it. Again, I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can hear the listeners screaming at the radio. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's part of the conspiracy theory that, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's not Biden. He's much better than all I can

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<v Speaker 2>say is, well, he did say both sides agreed and

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<v Speaker 2>both sides said they did not agree. So how do

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<v Speaker 2>you make sense of it? It's a legitimate question, Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to say it out loud. So in

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<v Speaker 2>the ceasefire component, I guess I'm wondering why, But that

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<v Speaker 2>would inure to Zelensky's benefit because if he had a

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<v Speaker 2>short time to cease fire, obviously drone production goes on 24-7.

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<v Speaker 2>They can build up a lot of additional drone resources

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<v Speaker 2>that they can launch on the Russians if they get

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<v Speaker 2>a two-month pause in the bombing. The Russians obviously don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any strategic benefit in allowing that, do they? Or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Something on that point. Not only do you have it

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<v Speaker 1>spot on, that is almost verbatim what the Russians said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they said we're not going to have one

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<v Speaker 1>of those because the only party that would benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>that is our adversary. And if you're going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me to do something like that, there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big quid pro quo. And there's not anything offered.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't see one. So they say, no, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. What they do say over and

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<v Speaker 1>over is we are absolutely willing to go into end

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<v Speaker 1>of war negotiations. We are looking for an end of

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<v Speaker 1>war peace treaty, not just a temporary ceasefire that will

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<v Speaker 1>only benefit you in coming back and hitting us harder.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just not going to go there. And unfortunately for us.

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<v Speaker 1>they have the leverage to make their version reality on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. We don't get to bypass that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and of course the Russians have every interest in

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<v Speaker 2>making life miserable for the Ukrainians that maybe haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>life as miserable as they can be. If you bomb

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<v Speaker 2>the infrastructure, you're going to, as you head on into winter,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are going to be freezing their

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<v Speaker 2>collective butts off and starvation may become an issue for

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. In fact, that's one of the other problems

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<v Speaker 1>that we have in this is that Kayakalis, basically the

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<v Speaker 1>foreign minister for the European Union, made that very point.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, you know, we're coming up because Russia's hit

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<v Speaker 1>so much infrastructure over the last six or so months,

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<v Speaker 1>heading in now to the beginning into the winter phase,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be some real problems here. And she

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<v Speaker 1>just said, listen, we need a ceasefire so that Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>can rebuild some of this stuff. And that's That's fine

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<v Speaker 1>as far as it goes, but she offers Russia nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And she just says, you know, Russia

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<v Speaker 1>is bad, so we're not going to do anything different.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to take anything off the table. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stop attacking Russia, but we want them

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<v Speaker 1>to stop attacking Ukraine. And that's just unrealistic. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I can say, hey, there may be some issues with

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, there's some cognitive problems here, you can't claim

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<v Speaker 1>that on the European side. It's just delusional thinking. from

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<v Speaker 1>European leaders across the board, and they have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>offer Ukraine that can help them win. All they can do, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>so important here, all they can do is keep the

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<v Speaker 1>war going, can drag it out further, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sure more Ukrainian people die pointlessly. They're never going

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<v Speaker 1>to defeat Russia. The only chance they have is to

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<v Speaker 1>have some kind of negotiated settlement on ugly terms that

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<v Speaker 1>we won't like, but on terms that will end the

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<v Speaker 1>killing of Ukraine, at least preserve something of the state. Otherwise...

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<v Speaker 1>we faced a prospect that they could one day physically lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a pause in kinetic activity would allow the Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 2>to re-fortify some of their drone and arsenal, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what's going on right now and so far

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<v Speaker 2>with us vis-a-vis the Iranians, which I read are now

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<v Speaker 2>re-fortifying the nuclear bases. They're building, I guess, berms around,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're expecting ground forces to perhaps enter certain areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Got Donald Trump's threat in that Well, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>start bombing them again either after the election or before

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<v Speaker 2>the election. We've got another carrier group going on over there,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is to suggest that he plans on

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<v Speaker 2>making good on it. But here they are using the

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<v Speaker 2>time to re-fortify. I mean, they're expecting some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>bombing campaign, but they're not backing off, Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, not only are they not backing off, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a number of folks associated– with from Tehran University,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and they categorically say they all expect there

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<v Speaker 1>to be an attack. They don't even think it's probable.

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<v Speaker 1>They think it's going to happen. So they're merely just

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<v Speaker 1>saying we just don't know when it's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're ready for it. And they're preparing fully for everything,

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<v Speaker 1>everything from like a local ground incursion, obviously not a

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<v Speaker 1>ground invasion like, you know, in Iraq in 2003, but

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of special forces kind of thing or a

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<v Speaker 1>marine expeditionary unit, something like that. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>big missile strikes here. But the problem is we're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to penetrate those underground mountain caverns

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<v Speaker 1>into missile cities with our conventional weapons or, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be blunt, not even nuclear weapons because those things are

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<v Speaker 1>so far underground of a grand mountain, we cannot knock

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<v Speaker 1>them out with nuclear weapons even. So certainly conventional weapons won't.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we go back and try to do again

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<v Speaker 1>what we did in the first 40 days or the

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<v Speaker 1>second 13-day process, All we're going to do is burn

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<v Speaker 1>through more of our missiles. We'll kill a lot of Iranians.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll blow up a lot of stuff on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>but not where the drone factories are, not where the

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<v Speaker 1>missile factories are, not where the launch points are. We

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<v Speaker 1>cannot knock those all out. So all that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do is Iran then is going to launch and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>burn down the Middle East, which is what they've claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Now, ironically, the one thing that's putting a

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<v Speaker 1>brake on that, it might be China, because they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that to their ally Iran or their friend Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're saying because that will cause problems for us

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<v Speaker 1>and the global economy that will drag us all down.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're asking for some restraint. That might be the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to slow down what Iran might do, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you it's going to be ugly for

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<v Speaker 1>our side if we return to combat operations.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and we didn't even get to the Houthis in

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<v Speaker 2>Yemen bombing the Saudi Arabians again and blowing up the

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base. Daniel Davis, we'll have to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that perhaps next week and hope for some better news

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<v Speaker 2>between now and then. Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that'll still be on the track. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll face whatever we face next week. Daniel Davis, Daniel Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive, find them where you find your podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>tune into the morning show every Tuesday at eight 30.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care and have a great week. My friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight 40. We're going to learn about breast cancer, breast

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<v Speaker 2>cancer awareness month. It is breast cancer awareness month. My

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<v Speaker 2>friends from OHC specifically doctor. Who is it this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Dr. Abigail.