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Speaker 2: I'm joining some time off, but in spirit, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: wherever he is right now, he's thinking about us and

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Speaker 2: thinking about Gosh, I can't believe Ryan just said that thing,

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Speaker 2: or you know, Shelby was singing again. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I should have been there to make fun of him.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure he's thinking about us right now. We're

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Speaker 2: in his head. Always guarantees, always, I'm in your head.

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Speaker 2: Shelby's gonna be here all week, which I'm very excited about.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Nate Jackson joining us on Friday. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be fun. We have Rocky Spring Training starting on Friday,

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Speaker 2: so we'll have our first Rocky Spring Training game here

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Speaker 2: on KAO wait starts at one o'clock earlier in the show,

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Speaker 2: before we get to the conversation on cap casualties. O

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Speaker 2: Kay waits to talk to you about this because NFL

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Speaker 2: dot com put on an article about cat casualties listening

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Speaker 2: a bunch of players, and I thought how appropriate to

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Speaker 1: Gets to see these kinds of articles to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: A cousualdy before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we saw.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins moving on from Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb

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Speaker 2: and more teams are about to do the similar things.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get out and here in just a second.

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Speaker 2: But earlier in the show, we were trying to as

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Speaker 2: a society, as a community to help Shelby with his

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Speaker 2: concerns about the sectomies, and so we had some people

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Speaker 1: Deal, You'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: This one I got snipped two years ago, quick and easy.

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Speaker 2: Only questionable part was smelling the cod rising part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you lost me like that right there, you lost me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gone. I would never walk into the room. Thank

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Speaker 2: Well, what about the first part, quick and easy, that

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Speaker 2: it is fine, everything's good.

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Speaker 3: And then he ruined it.

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Speaker 1: Then he ruined He's just part of it.

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Speaker 2: To understand that I'm not I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you that it doesn't exist,

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Speaker 2: because it does. But understand that that lasting memory read

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Speaker 2: that's what we have therapists.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, if I smelled broke no

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Speaker 3: way you're ever ever. Like, Bro, if I walk into

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Speaker 2: This was a great text, Shelby Scott, the guy that

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Speaker 2: I saw the pictures. Fantastic. He needed the boost.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes personalities don't mix. But that doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 3: that means that's other teams that I think he's valuable.

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Speaker 1: If they give away AJ Brown, like.

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Speaker 2: He's swapped for a fourth rounder or something like that,

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Speaker 2: well then you know exactly how they feel about AJ Brown.

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Speaker 3: No, and they're trying to and obviously this proposed trade

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Speaker 3: That's a valuable player going for another valuable player. So

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Speaker 3: Well, because some people have to recalibrate differently.

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Speaker 3: we're making it a bigger deal because so the players

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Speaker 1: Why is my wide receiver? If I'm an Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Fan been reading that book for weeks in in weeks,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it was a confrontation that brought attention

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Speaker 3: I think I think they made up optics. Is this

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Speaker 1: How many for a.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I mean, he'll be the top running back.

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Speaker 3: So what player would enjoy it, like would want that

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Speaker 1: I respect.

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Speaker 2: I can understand that a little more. If it's just

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Speaker 2: Because nobody's going to match the two first rounders or

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Speaker 3: So in that case, yes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a time in my life where I

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Speaker 2: do you want to get to some thoughts on cap

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Speaker 2: casualties and all those kinds of things Shelby Harrison Studio.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that next.

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Speaker 3: And not just sports induced as like real asthma. You know,

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Speaker 1: So she's willing to do that, but you're not willing

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Speaker 3: Two different things, brothers, two completely different things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's just hand in hand, man, this is.

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Speaker 3: A marriage, Yes, hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: Compromise.

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Speaker 1: I can't beleeve. You played pretty down the house that

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Speaker 3: Are you surprised?

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Speaker 1: Great? Does it?

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Speaker 2: cap casualties, and we we talked about this stuff all

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Speaker 2: the time on radio, like me as a fan and

441
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Speaker 2: as a media member, we discussed cap casualties. We were

442
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Speaker 2: talking about it with Nick Cosmidor just an hour ago

443
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Speaker 2: about Drake Greenlaw maybe being a cap casualty. But I

444
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Speaker 2: thought about it since you're currently in the league and

445
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: obviously you're coming up here in free agency. But I

446
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: always wanted to know from a player's perspective, how much

447
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Speaker 2: do you grind your teeth on stuff like this.

448
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Speaker 3: I will say this, we know because all the cap

449
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 3: casualty is is we have no more guaranteed money. So

450
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: trust me, we know because it's either we're gonna get

451
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: cut or we gonna get extended. It's very rare when

452
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Speaker 3: a player actually just goes and fits this is the

453
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Speaker 3: deal without one or the other. So we know, like

454
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Speaker 3: we know it could be coming. And if we're not

455
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Speaker 3: talking about an extension, more likely, where's my next team.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like Bradley Chubb, who was a Bronco's first

457
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: round pick, you played with him Tyreek Hills.

458
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Speaker 1: In fact, the Dolphins like four guys, but.

459
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Speaker 3: They released people with guaranteed money, right, And so that's

460
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Speaker 3: where you run into the Denver Broncos situation from before

461
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Speaker 3: when they cut Russell Wilson of the dead the dead

462
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Speaker 3: cap and then that right there is another animal.

463
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Speaker 1: On his own. Well, so yeah, that's a great point

464
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Speaker 1: and just really quick any interest in Tyreek Hill here Denver, it.

465
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Speaker 3: Just depends what his help would be.

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not gonna be ready for the start

467
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Speaker 2: of the season. He still got one more surgery, he said.

468
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Speaker 3: So if he's not ready and you run into a

469
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Speaker 3: problem later in the year, it might be something to

470
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Speaker 3: re visit.

471
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Speaker 2: Well, he's probably gonna be on a team by then.

472
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Speaker 2: I don't think you think he might be a free

473
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Speaker 2: agent by the start of the season.

474
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Speaker 3: I think it just depends on how his knee is. Yeah,

475
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: because if you're you're coming back, yeah, tearing everything, dislocating

476
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: your knee, I don't know if a team's just going

477
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: to be like, especially for a guy that relies on speed,

478
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if a teams is going

479
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Speaker 3: to go out there and throw money at him and

480
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Speaker 3: be like, well, okay, we're going to help you rehab

481
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: and then we'll see how it goes, because more unlikely

482
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Speaker 3: that dollar amount is eight figures. So you know, you

483
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Speaker 3: gotta think I might want to revisit this later down

484
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Speaker 3: the line if I have an injury and I can

485
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Speaker 3: see he can actually run because he can say he's

486
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Speaker 3: going to come back this year. But with that type

487
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Speaker 3: of injury, is it it's not so far fasted to

488
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Speaker 3: say he might miss the whole year.

489
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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean one hundred percent. I think a

490
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Speaker 2: lot of people think he's probably end up going back

491
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Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. But they're also in a weird predicament

492
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Speaker 2: because their quarterback Patrick Mahomes story is acl late in

493
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Speaker 2: the season, so he probably won't be there for the

494
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Speaker 2: start of the year. Probably not for sure, but that's

495
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Speaker 2: what it looks like. So they're they're an interesting spot.

496
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Speaker 2: Maybe they can have a little bit of patience knowing

497
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Speaker 2: that the Chiefs maybe can come on strong in the

498
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Speaker 2: back half of the season if they have Tyreek Hill

499
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Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes playing there.

500
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Speaker 1: So back to the cap casualty thing. Now did you Guys?

501
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know how much control you have in

502
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: structuring your contracts, but you just laid it out there perfectly.

503
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: Teams want to frontload things so that they have more

504
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: flexibility in the back end, generally speaking, and if I'm

505
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Speaker 2: a player, I almost want it the other way, will you.

506
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Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. But players like their money. Now, okay,

507
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like, put put it in

508
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: the signing bonus. Put you know, give me the first

509
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: two years guaranteed. And so because the idea is, well,

510
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Speaker 3: if I have two good years, two decent years, I

511
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Speaker 3: get cut, I can still be a free agent and

512
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: get a good none of the two years guaranteed and

513
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Speaker 3: good point have that safety for my family. So you're

514
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Speaker 3: never you never really want a backloaded contract. You want

515
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Speaker 3: that front loaded one where you're getting that money influxed

516
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: right now, this year and next year and after that

517
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: if you want to move on, fine, I already got paid.

518
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Speaker 2: Or you can restructure and get another payday with that

519
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: current team.

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Speaker 3: Well if usually when you restructure, you lose money, can

521
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Speaker 3: I mean, can they convert some of it to signing bonus? Yeah? Well, yeah,

522
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Speaker 3: I've had that. I've had that happen before. But at

523
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: a time when you don't have any guaranteed money, if

524
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: you restructure, it usually involves you taking a pay cut

525
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: because the idea is, well, we're going to either cut

526
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: you or I get to even talk about it about

527
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: my own contract. This year, right before the end of camp,

528
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: the Browns came to me and said, we're going to

529
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Speaker 3: release you if you don't take a million dollar pay cut.

530
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Speaker 1: This league is so funny.

531
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Speaker 2: Right before they what they want to keep you, they do,

532
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: but they sell it to you as no, we really

533
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Speaker 2: love you, we just love you for a million dollars

534
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: lest yes, And so.

535
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Speaker 3: They came out and said, if you don't, you know,

536
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Speaker 3: we love you, but we're going to have to release you.

537
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Speaker 1: Had to grind out old training camp.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, because you know why I was doing

539
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: bonus and so and that's why. And I didn't want

540
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: it this way, but you know, this is kind of

541
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: like what they wanted him to deal. But they're like,

542
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Speaker 3: all right, for the second I signed a two year,

543
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: two for nine right, and you know the first year,

544
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, cleaning four and a half whatever. The next year,

545
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: though they're like, all, right after camp, we'll give you

546
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 3: two and then the rest would be your salary or whatever.

547
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Speaker 3: And right after camp, I'm talking about I'm in the

548
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Speaker 3: I'm in the parking lot. On the phone was my

549
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: agent and we're just like and they're like, yeah, you

550
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: know you like you know, you take this pay cutter

551
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: or re release you. And so then what your agent

552
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: does is he calls around the other teams trying to see, like,

553
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, can we get that but or more? And

554
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: usually at that time, right after camp, the answer is no.

555
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: So that was just, you know, a strategic thing the

556
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: NFL does. But that's why I say, like I'm a

557
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: big play. Especially when you get older, you'll never see

558
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: me side more than one year because then you control it.

559
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: You can't come back later and try to change the

560
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: terms of the deal.

561
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Speaker 1: Guys, that's a good point.

562
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, any anymore, if it's a multi year deal,

563
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: especially for vets, it's something where I mean Drake green

564
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Law is perfect example. It's a three year deal, but

565
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: it's really a one year deal and the Broncos could

566
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: they get a substantial cap savings that they move on

567
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: from him now? And you know, you can announced these

568
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: things and agents love to announce three years, forty five

569
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Speaker 2: million dollars.

570
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Speaker 3: I'm happy you said that. Yeah, because we also have

571
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: an agent problem in the NFL, because like we have

572
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: you know, the Rosenhauses athletes first, all those guys, they

573
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: all want to make sure that you know how big

574
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 3: the contract is. Eighty million dollars thirty guaranteed. That's a

575
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: thirty million dollar deal, and that's a lot of money.

576
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Don't get I'm not saying it's not, but these it's

577
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: a lot of fluff in these deals that you will

578
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: never see like with Tyreek's Hill, with Tyreek Hills deal

579
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: in Miami, he was never going to finish that deal

580
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: off because he would have had a seventy million dollar

581
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: capt So it's they do a lot of deals where

582
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: they have no intention of following through with it. So

583
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's an agent problem too. Yeah, you

584
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And the same thing, why are

585
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: we doing these big extravagant deals that we know we're

586
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: never going to let the player finish this one.

587
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Take the pay cut, then just read books on the sidelines.

588
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: That'll teach them.

589
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, Take the pay cut,

590
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: read the book. Do your job.

591
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're trying to downplay that.

592
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that big of a deal.

593
00:27:47,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, everybody thinks it's a big deal except players.

594
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: A bright back from illness. How are you been? State

595
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Barts is great? Yeah? Yeah, stop parts and of course

596
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: mean my my bedroom. Stop licking those door knobs.

597
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 3: There's no tasty though. I know.

598
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it has not been good for your health.

599
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: What is these days?

600
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: I mean not looking door knobs that great because I'm

601
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: just letting you know, grants appreciate it.

602
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: All the extra work.

603
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I dumped his lap.

604
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: That's like my kids like links the ground. I'm like.

605
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: My building here is at forty five years old.

606
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Test my uming system because I needed to test.

607
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you are the kind of personality sometimes

608
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: that just tests yourself. You know.

609
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I want to say they beat on the electric fans.

610
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Let me see how many days I can go without

611
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: sleep and angry tweet people kind of done that in

612
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Speaker 1: a good eight months.

613
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Beyonder, where are true?

614
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: Where do you think tyre killing up Kansas City? Yeah

615
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: that's what I won't be here.

616
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that it was absolutely one.

617
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: He'll not be here. I'll just tell you that the

618
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: same thing with Max Crosby will not be here. Well,

619
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Speaker 1: of course he's not. There's a polymarket. The odds are.

620
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: Ever, you know, like, if you want to waste your money,

621
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: you could bet on Max Crosby coming to Denver.

622
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Really. Oh yeah, I didn't think that was an option.

623
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: Advert Oh I took the No.

624
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm only getting thirty one cents back

625
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 5: return part, but that's free money.

626
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: Campling problem caller text one eight hundred gambler.

627
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: No, it's not a problem when you're winning, perfect time problem.

628
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: You're winning. Yeah, people want to be idiots. I'll take

629
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: their money.

630
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: That's fine. Wait, do you think Max Crosby is a

631
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: playing for the Raiders this year? Yeah? I think gets

632
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: up coming back. We'll see.

633
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

634
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to.

635
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: There's their work, I mean, with the defensive guy that

636
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: they they.

637
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: Got and all that kind of stuff, Like I think

638
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: they've been working on trying to do what he wants

639
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: to get, you know, that kind of thing in there

640
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: and go from there. I think they're I think they're

641
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 4: pretty out on placating him and letting him know what

642
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: it is. They're trying to do.

643
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: What do you think about Max Crosby's game, Shelby, I.

644
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Love it, Just it's always going, you know, like always going.

645
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: He has the moves and but the one thing you

646
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: just can't teach is his effort. And you know, he

647
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: just he's always full speed and you know, chucking along,

648
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: And I think you can't replace, you know, that type

649
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: of presence from the field. So if I'm the Vaiders,

650
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: you can't. I also believe the same thing with the Cowboys.

651
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: You can't trade premium edge rushers because as we see,

652
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: they're very hard to replace. Like they're still working with

653
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: Tyree Willis. Was it Tyre Wilson?

654
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: Mm?

655
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: What was it?

656
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: Was?

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Speaker 3: He top ten over let the top five and he's

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Speaker 3: still isn't even close to Max Cosby. Max Cosby was

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Speaker 3: a forefront.

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Speaker 1: Pick something like that. Yeah, So you don't trade. You

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Speaker 1: don't trade edge rushers.

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Speaker 5: You don't trade corners when you and you find the

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Speaker 5: right ones, you know, unless the tay corners like over

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Speaker 5: the Hill, like you don't you just don't trade those

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Speaker 5: guys are too hard to find. One hundred and sixth

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Speaker 5: overall fourth rounder. Yeah, that's wild exactly.

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Speaker 3: So that shows you how hard it is to actually

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Speaker 3: scout and to figure out if these guys are going

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Speaker 3: to be players, because we got guys from first round

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Speaker 3: and seven round picks that are our game changers, but

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Speaker 3: people missed on them,