Speaker 1: You know that the great Dave Lapham is fond of
Speaker 1: talking about a tale of two halves, right, a tale
Speaker 1: of two cities, right, Charles Dickens novelah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing which you alluded to in
Speaker 1: your column about how I mean certainly offensively. Joe Flacco's
Speaker 1: comes in, He's got about three days with the team.
Speaker 1: First half looked like a guy that had been with
Speaker 1: a team three days, right. Second half, things got together
Speaker 1: and he performed very very well, which we'll get into defense.
Speaker 2: Not so much.
Speaker 3: Well, you're right, and it's the tale of the positive,
Speaker 3: the good news and the bad news. So the good
Speaker 3: and the bad, the tale of two halves.
Speaker 4: Rock.
Speaker 3: I heard you talking with Willie there, and I've said
Speaker 3: this in my calum dance and say dot com you
Speaker 3: know that it takes time. It took you know, Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco needed some time. And that's I think clearly what
Speaker 3: was happening there in the first half is I don't
Speaker 3: think you could expect this guy to come in go
Speaker 3: to lambeau Field against Green Bay, despite the fact that
Speaker 3: he's played green Bay already this season. That's a big
Speaker 3: ask to step into a new team on the fly
Speaker 3: Tuesday night, he gets here, you know, goes over the
Speaker 3: playbook on his drive down with Zach Taylor, gets to
Speaker 3: the facility late at night, and he's there till late
Speaker 3: at night and in all week and it's like still
Speaker 3: and then you you talked about it too, and Jamar
Speaker 3: Chase said they only got twelve reps together. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is the best receiver in the game who got
Speaker 3: sick and had to go home, and so all things told, like,
Speaker 3: you know, the fact that they really turned it up
Speaker 3: there after the halftime was really impressive. I think it
Speaker 3: should give you u some hope that the Bengals are
Speaker 3: going to win a few more games this season. I mean,
Speaker 3: this season is done. This season was done the moment
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow went down, But that doesn't mean they can't
Speaker 3: be competitive win a few games, and maybe they weren't
Speaker 3: supposed to. Joe Flack a huge credit to the front
Speaker 3: office for not just sitting on their hands, because I think,
Speaker 3: you know, the thing everyone expected the Bengals to do
Speaker 3: was just we'll just keep doing the same thing we
Speaker 3: always do and keep a rolling with who we got.
Speaker 3: And the fact that they made a move there, uh
Speaker 3: and you know, bench Jake Browning and or I don't
Speaker 3: know it was a benching. I guess you returned him
Speaker 3: to the bench, right right, Yeah, And when I got
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco like that, that's a good thing. The bottom line.
Speaker 1: Flacco, by the way, second half, so he was twenty
Speaker 1: nine to forty five for the entire game, but the
Speaker 1: second half twenty one of thirty one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: nine yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was really really good.
Speaker 3: And over what was his overall two hundred and nineteen yards, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred nineteen yards passing, two touchdowns, no
Speaker 3: interceptions combined, found T Higgins Jamar Chase for fifteen receptions.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 3: That's I don't know how much more you could ask
Speaker 3: of that guy. If that guy produces out on a
Speaker 3: weekly basis, uh that that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Really good. And the main thing he did was any situation.
Speaker 1: I always talk about football in the end of it
Speaker 1: is kind of simple. You get the ball your best players,
Speaker 1: and if you have better players than they do, you're
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot more games if you make a
Speaker 1: conscious effort to get your best players the ball and
Speaker 1: they couldn't do.
Speaker 2: That with Jake Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a deficiency on him or
Speaker 1: it was a game plan. I'm not quite sure on that,
Speaker 1: but credit Joe Flacco has been around a long time.
Speaker 2: He's wise.
Speaker 1: He says, Look, I don't know all the ends outs
Speaker 1: of the playbook, and I don't know what this route's
Speaker 1: called or that concept.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna throw the ball at number one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the ball at number five, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna not and get the ball in my hand, which
Speaker 1: he's always been really good at. Ye, he's good at
Speaker 1: kind of knowing where the you know, the target guy
Speaker 1: is supposed to be and how he's supposed to get open.
Speaker 2: And he followed through it. He did.
Speaker 3: And honestly, that that touchdown passed late in the game
Speaker 3: to Uh to Jamar Chase was a dark and that
Speaker 3: was it. That looked like Joe. It looked like a
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow throw. It did, and the way Chase went
Speaker 3: and got it that I put on him.
Speaker 1: I said with Willie, I I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: like an official route. I know all the routes in football,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like a like a just ran up and it was
Speaker 1: kind of a back shoulder but not really put it
Speaker 1: out in front of him. He just he he was
Speaker 1: just a barter player, just one and got it, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's at the end of the day. Give Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase and his catch radio is a chance, and you're
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's there's I mean, we've seen catches like that that
Speaker 3: Jamar and t have made. With Joe Burrow, what was
Speaker 3: it in the Denver Was it the Denver game last year?
Speaker 3: The ball that just Burrow? I think he just chucked
Speaker 3: it up and T Higgins just went up and got
Speaker 3: him for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They won that game.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then there's the other side of the coin rock.
Speaker 3: The defense is now. I mean, I think everyone who
Speaker 3: pays close attention knows and and Mo Mo talked a
Speaker 3: lot about this.
Speaker 2: The defense isn't good. No, and and.
Speaker 1: You're right, we've forgotten about it because, you know, because
Speaker 1: Burrow brown interceptions in the first against some pretty poultry offense.
Speaker 2: Does the defense looked pretty good.
Speaker 3: They got takeaways, they did, They got some they got
Speaker 3: some opportunistic takeaways. But I'll tell you Joe Flacco in
Speaker 3: Game one in Cleveland, and uh, Trevor and Lawrence. They
Speaker 3: diced up that defense pretty good. They just got overshadowed
Speaker 3: by by the the takeaways, some of which were gimmes
Speaker 3: ricochets off of the receiver's hands. But that's the game,
Speaker 3: and what do you take it?
Speaker 1: But you it did all the things happening with the
Speaker 1: offense to your point, with Burrow and Brownie and all
Speaker 1: that and what's going on, it overshaded the reality of
Speaker 1: this is a defense that was in the lower part
Speaker 1: of the of the league last year that made no
Speaker 1: real additions except for I mean, you called Demetrius Now
Speaker 1: he's been good, but not like a real impact player.
Speaker 1: It's the same defense. And then the second half.
Speaker 3: They're operating without their clearly best player, Trey Hendrickson, So
Speaker 3: you can't really expect it's not you can go, wow,
Speaker 3: what happened to the defense? Well, what happened to defense
Speaker 3: is it was the same guys as last year getting
Speaker 3: exposed the same way they did last year. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: have been getting absolutely just I mean, they ranked thirty
Speaker 3: one in total defense right now, and a big, big
Speaker 3: part of that is the fact that they are just
Speaker 3: really bad against the run they are giving up. They
Speaker 3: rank in the bottom five, five from the bottom, giving
Speaker 3: up one hundred and thirty six yards on the ground.
Speaker 2: Now during this four.
Speaker 3: Game losing streak, that's been one hundred and fifty six yards,
Speaker 3: they'd go out on the ground. You know, the Green
Speaker 3: Bay ran it on them again. But then when they
Speaker 3: didn't run it, you know, in the end there the
Speaker 3: defense couldn't make a stop, the offense can't comes to life,
Speaker 3: and you know they get that touchdown to get within
Speaker 3: a score and then what's the guy's name drawing a
Speaker 3: blank number zero for for the receiver for Golden Golden,
Speaker 3: a golden tape. But that's the Matthew Golden. I mean
Speaker 3: wide open in crunch time. Yeah, yeah, he caught that
Speaker 3: deep cross route, no one around him and for thirty
Speaker 3: one yards in the NFL, like, come on football field
Speaker 3: at a time at a time when you have to
Speaker 3: make a stop there like and they can't do it.
Speaker 3: And then you go back to last week too, and
Speaker 3: people will say these were garbage time touchdowns and ultimately
Speaker 3: that's how it turned out. But the Bengals draw that
Speaker 3: game last week to eleven points, was still over ten
Speaker 3: minutes left in the game. You know, they got the touchdown,
Speaker 3: the Jamar and the Detroit just drove the ball right
Speaker 3: down the field. It was a total dagger. They just
Speaker 3: sliced and dice, passing, running and just a nice mix
Speaker 3: balanced zip zip zip right down the field. Game over,
Speaker 3: no chance to come back.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, so with can you
Speaker 1: talk yourself into this?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: If the defense can get some takeaways, all right, and
Speaker 1: if the offense, with Joe Flacco getting even more experienced,
Speaker 1: can look more so like they did the second half
Speaker 1: versus the first half. If they can do all that
Speaker 1: in these next three games, all three at home at Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: shooting Pittsburgh, the Jets and the Bears, can they get
Speaker 1: it done? Is there any possible chance, Jason, they can
Speaker 1: sit at five and four going to the buy? Because
Speaker 1: I will contend if I had asked you at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, with a healthy Joe Burrow, hey,
Speaker 1: the Bengals will be five and four at the buy
Speaker 1: and playing good?
Speaker 2: Will you take it? You might said, yes? So is
Speaker 2: that possible? In your opinion? Five and four at the buy?
Speaker 2: Rattle off three straight at home?
Speaker 3: I don't think it's possible with this defense, I think
Speaker 3: four and five could be possible. I don't think they're
Speaker 3: beating Pittsburgh at home. I think Pittsburgh is now seeing
Speaker 3: and that this is their moment. Now with the rest
Speaker 3: of the division down, I think Pittsburgh is seizing on
Speaker 3: that they're coming here. Obviously, both teams on a short rest.
Speaker 3: I still think there's an adjustment period for Flacco. Flacco
Speaker 3: almost really has to be the way he was yesterday
Speaker 3: in the second half of the entire game. That's a
Speaker 3: lot to ask, and then the defense like it just
Speaker 3: it feels like it's basically they're back to having to
Speaker 3: do the whole strategy they were going to do with
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and now is to try to outscore teams.
Speaker 3: So now you're asking a lesser quarterback to do that,
Speaker 3: a better quarterback than Browning, but nowhere anywhere near Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: You're asking Joe Flacco to put up thirty a week. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's exactly right. That's a tough ask. Tough ask.
Speaker 1: Well, well, look, we will continue to break this down
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show. Dave Lapham of course,
Speaker 1: will check in with us as he always does at
Speaker 1: five o'clock here today, But we'll keep you posting on
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: But right now, let's go ahead and check some trafficking weather.
Speaker 1: How we look a little bit of the coaching carousel
Speaker 1: that is college football and and discuss on one hand,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy that these schools. I mean, there's you know,
Speaker 1: James Franklin has a forty nine million dollars by it
Speaker 1: and they just fired. They're gonna pay forty nine million
Speaker 1: dollars in the next five or six years to do nothing.
Speaker 2: Mind boggling.
Speaker 1: And what was promised was in this world of nil,
Speaker 1: coaches weren't going to get fired as much because teams
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up that money they had to
Speaker 1: be able to buy players and what they would give
Speaker 1: their coach an extra year or two.
Speaker 2: But that's that's not happened. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the evidence shows that that is not happening. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that after the bottom of the hour news.
Speaker 1: But the more coaching news, it came out a little
Speaker 1: bit of go Jason. The Titans after a one to
Speaker 1: five star, after I believe a twenty to ten loss
Speaker 1: to the Raiders yesterday, they have fired their head coach,
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan.
Speaker 2: Former OC with your Cincinnati Bengals. Your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went just four and nineteen in Tennessee. What
Speaker 3: is these six games into us? Just his second season
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. They drafted cam Ward with the number one
Speaker 3: overall pick.
Speaker 2: This year just didn't work.
Speaker 3: And you look at this and ye, here's potentially the
Speaker 3: issue is they've had incredible amount of turnover in their
Speaker 3: front office just in the last less than three years.
Speaker 3: So in less than three years, they've had three general managers.
Speaker 3: In December of twenty twenty two, they fired John Robinson
Speaker 3: the GM. They hire Ron Carthon as the GM, and
Speaker 3: two years later, in January of twenty twenty fourth, they
Speaker 3: fired Mike Vrabel. Then they hire that same year or
Speaker 3: that same month, they hire Brian Callahan. Then they fired
Speaker 3: guy the GM that they hired a few years ago,
Speaker 3: Ron carthin They hire a new GM, Mike borgan Ganzi,
Speaker 3: who wasn't the guy there when they hire Brian Callahan.
Speaker 3: So the guy that hired Brian Callahan had been fired
Speaker 3: back in which is always always has the right on.
Speaker 2: The wall and.
Speaker 3: Just just a mess. They're building a new stadium. They're
Speaker 3: going to open that in the early twenty twenty seven
Speaker 3: is when that's projected to be completed. Report All the
Speaker 3: reports say, so, I don't know. I mean, you know
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, it's been bad with the fans.
Speaker 3: The fans aren't showing up. The ones that are. We're
Speaker 3: chanting fire.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Three games into the season, like the whole stadium was
Speaker 3: echoing at halftime it was fire Callahan chance having been
Speaker 3: there and.
Speaker 1: Knowing some folks that lived down there and kind of
Speaker 1: knowing that fan base, which is I mean, the Tennessee
Speaker 1: market is about as calm as you can get from
Speaker 1: a pressures is not a New York City market where
Speaker 1: everyone's calling for your job every day. If you you know,
Speaker 1: you win and contend for the playoffs, you know good
Speaker 1: things are gonna You're gonna kind of be okay.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: I I remember saying I'm rarely.
Speaker 1: Like jumping to the defense of a coach that that
Speaker 1: you know, got fired.
Speaker 2: When they fired Mike Rabell, I thought that was incredible.
Speaker 8: Guys.
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting by the way, he's what four
Speaker 1: and one right now with the Patriots and without the
Speaker 1: roster that's like not even that great.
Speaker 3: He's one of the best coaches in the NFL. He's
Speaker 3: a tough guy. He instills toughness.
Speaker 2: In his town.
Speaker 1: They take on the identity of him in the same
Speaker 1: way the Lions take on the identity of of Van Campbell.
Speaker 3: The pride of Walsh, Jesuit High School, Rabel Cayhoga Falls, Ohio,
Speaker 3: Ohio State. There you go, buds, they are he's speaking of. Well,
Speaker 3: we'll talk more about college thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I don't I don't watch all
Speaker 1: the Titans games. I don't know all the ins and outs,
Speaker 1: but I know that it just seems like the offense
Speaker 1: was was kind of lost. And anytime you have the
Speaker 1: general manager, he's the guy who didn't hire the head coach,
Speaker 1: it's unless you're really cranking, it ain't gonna be good.
Speaker 3: I mean he won four games there and less than
Speaker 3: a season and a half. It's like, yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, especially a lot of time.
Speaker 3: A lot of times you're like you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: this maybe needs a little more time, but that one, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're four and nineteen. I think I think that we
Speaker 3: all know what the this isn't going to work.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the college coaching turmoil as well.
Speaker 1: After the news who was Radio seven hundred WLW. It's
Speaker 1: not really on this day in history, it's actually yesterday
Speaker 1: in history. October twelve, fourteen ninety two, Columbus discovered the
Speaker 1: New World.
Speaker 2: We're celebrating Columbus Day today, well some are. I still
Speaker 2: celebrate Columbus Day. You know.
Speaker 1: His goal obviously was to find the Western Sea route
Speaker 1: to the Indies, right, That's where he was trying to
Speaker 1: find with the gold and the spices and all that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. It was financed by King Ferdinand, Queen
Speaker 1: Isabella of Spain, the journey Nina Pentas, Santa Maria, you know,
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But the first island or first land
Speaker 1: that he hit in the New World, and I've said
Speaker 1: this before because I've spent many years out there was
Speaker 1: on modern day San Salvador, which is a Bohemian island.
Speaker 2: That's where he hit it.
Speaker 1: First land, yes, and it used to be called Watling's
Speaker 1: Island because there was a pirate named Captain Watling, well
Speaker 1: pirate slash sea captain named Watlan, and he used to
Speaker 1: be called that. But anyway he discovered he called it
Speaker 1: San Salvador. And like I said, I've spent i haven't
Speaker 1: been back there in a few years, but spent about
Speaker 1: ten twelve years out there.
Speaker 2: Beautiful place.
Speaker 3: So he hit he hits what's known as San Salvador first.
Speaker 2: And then goes then goes down and hits like Cuba,
Speaker 2: what else Dominican?
Speaker 3: You know all that he first comes to America and
Speaker 3: what is now Florida, right, yes, Saint Augustine that I
Speaker 3: don't know that I don't know, but you know made
Speaker 3: a couple made like three actually death and three total
Speaker 3: voyages there and back. That's sort of sorry, I forgot
Speaker 3: my fourth grade I was that we learned about that
Speaker 3: fourth grade.
Speaker 1: Probably the kid's learning the name more. I wonder why, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know now A lot of the the dirt on
Speaker 1: I do know this on Columbus came about from the
Speaker 1: author Howard Zinn. He was the first author that said,
Speaker 1: you know, Christopher Columbus, you know, killed all these No, no,
Speaker 1: not that he was the one that was for all.
Speaker 1: You know that we kind of, in his opinion, brought
Speaker 1: to light all the atrocities against the Native American people.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. We're kind of going on his word.
Speaker 1: There's like like only I think like Christopher Columbus's actual diary.
Speaker 1: Other than that, there's no reporter out there saying, well,
Speaker 1: on day he took those You know, we assume that
Speaker 1: that happened, as it has many times throughout history, but
Speaker 1: it was before journalism was running right exactly, so pretty
Speaker 1: still a pretty monumental discovery.
Speaker 2: Will celebrate him.
Speaker 3: Your state capital is named after him, right, well, remember
Speaker 3: when they tried to remember when there was a movement
Speaker 3: that changed the name. Oh yeah of this Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2: I didn't go very far.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't, No, sure didn't. Nonetheless so much people
Speaker 3: could see the look you just gave me. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: ale sarcastic.
Speaker 2: But that's why this is a radio. So yeah.
Speaker 1: So James Franklin, the head coach of Penn State, over
Speaker 1: the weekend, fired and it's crazy three weeks ago, just
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, how fast things can change. Number two
Speaker 1: in the country, Number two in the country, you know,
Speaker 1: getting ready to play. They play Oregon and actually are
Speaker 1: like like could have should have kind of won that game. Yever,
Speaker 1: game I think until last week is one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the country. Didn't pass three seasons James
Speaker 1: Franklin eleven and two, ten and three. Last year thirteen
Speaker 1: and three with two playoff wins, ranked number one, number
Speaker 1: two in the country. Preseason was as high as two
Speaker 1: officially three losses, canned and a forty nine million dollar buyout.
Speaker 2: And I looked this up, Jason.
Speaker 1: So there have been seven FBS schools that have fired
Speaker 1: their head coaches. Okay, so James Franklin fired from Penn State,
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy from Oklahoma State, Sam Pittman from Arkansas, Brent
Speaker 1: Pry from Virginia Tech, to Shan Foster from UCLA, Trent
Speaker 1: Dilferd from UAB, and Trent Bray from Oregon State. And
Speaker 1: all of those buyout money totals are one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in payment going to coaches who
Speaker 1: are going to coach for those universities. Your thoughts, it's
Speaker 1: that's going to go up here fairly soon. When Billy
Speaker 1: Napier gets canned at Florida, I was reading a piece
Speaker 1: in the USA did Ay Blake top Meyer.
Speaker 2: It was a really good column.
Speaker 3: Uh, Norville at Florida State right there, Luke Fickle. Uh,
Speaker 3: all those guys have high buyouts, but not not. There
Speaker 3: was a couple of there was was it Fickles? It
Speaker 3: was kind of like, whoa, I'm surprised it's that low.
Speaker 3: Is it high?
Speaker 2: Is it high? Okay? I thought it was that was
Speaker 2: one of those guys. I was like, oh, I mean
Speaker 2: they're all high.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, you thought like with those
Speaker 3: being kind of I don't really see Wisconsin as being
Speaker 3: an upper echelon.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 1: Uh see him bringing Belichick. So with all those toe
Speaker 1: and then the article I saw maybe he saw the
Speaker 1: same one. They're saying it could it could approach two
Speaker 1: hundred million by the end of the year, and that
Speaker 1: and that that. As I was thinking about this last
Speaker 1: night and I heard you and Willie talk about it.
Speaker 1: Now we're we're sitting here talking about it.
Speaker 2: It just it comes back to me. This is something
Speaker 2: I've thought about a lot.
Speaker 3: I used to cover, used to you know, be the
Speaker 3: beat beat reporter for college sports, and the amount of
Speaker 3: like colleges like it's they operate in all reality when
Speaker 3: it comes to finances.
Speaker 1: Businesses out there fire their CEO and pay them forty
Speaker 1: nine million dollars to walk away.
Speaker 2: You hear it.
Speaker 3: But it's like Goldman Sacks or like it's like the
Speaker 3: biggest of the big and it's like, but I mean
Speaker 3: this is this is on the athletic side, of the
Speaker 3: non athletic side. Any start you think about it, You're like,
Speaker 3: what other what other industry or organization or whatever in America?
Speaker 3: Certainly in America, Uh, do you get money from and
Speaker 3: this is obviously state schools, but you get money from
Speaker 3: private donors, you get money from tuition from students, you
Speaker 3: get money from the state government, you get money from
Speaker 3: the federal government, you get money from corporations.
Speaker 2: You get in and you.
Speaker 3: Can even expand that and say you a money from
Speaker 3: ticket sales and all. It's like what other world gets
Speaker 3: that kind of revenue stream from that various different uh
Speaker 3: you know, pots of money or.
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's like and then I think it has just
Speaker 3: skewed like all sense of reality when it comes to
Speaker 3: and like, who's made you know, so the athletic director
Speaker 3: at Penn State. I'm sure this wasn't just made yesterday.
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's been crunching numbers with some big
Speaker 3: donors or and you know we you know, sarcastically, James
Speaker 3: Franklin's nickname Big Game James, because he's what one in
Speaker 3: eighteen or something against top five teams in his time
Speaker 3: at Penn State. So this has been you know, this
Speaker 3: is this, This wasn't this decision wasn't made with the
Speaker 3: snap of a finger yesterday, but it was made probably
Speaker 3: fairly quickly. Right there are number two three weeks ago,
Speaker 3: so you know, generally speak but even in a matter
Speaker 3: of three weeks or a matter of two weeks or
Speaker 3: a week, you can decide like we're going to pay
Speaker 3: this guy forty nine, Like where does that? It's beyond
Speaker 3: comprehension to think where is that money coming from? And
Speaker 3: how are you able to make that decision? But it's
Speaker 3: just saying like, yeah, we can do that and be
Speaker 3: financially viable. It shows you that the people that are upset,
Speaker 3: the people that are upset enough where the AD takes
Speaker 3: their call, it has to listen to them. They have
Speaker 3: a lot of money and they're saying, hey, this isn't acceptable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then it becomes this isn't acceptable. We're getting embarrassed.
Speaker 3: And then it becomes this isn't acceptable. We're getting embarrassed.
Speaker 1: And you know what, me and five other guys will
Speaker 1: pay the money to get rid of this problem and
Speaker 1: restore confidence back in this program. But you're right, there's
Speaker 1: no other industry where like this kind of heavy hitter
Speaker 1: type money comes in and swoops in and pays a
Speaker 1: guy to.
Speaker 2: Do nothing right.
Speaker 3: And you think about, you know, are some of our
Speaker 3: major companies when they buy out a CEO, Right, You're like, okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm saying like a Goldman Sachs or something, act like.
Speaker 2: A major, major international player. Those are only a handful.
Speaker 3: But you're looking at like you look at like all
Speaker 3: these universities and colleges and the you know in Penn
Speaker 3: State certainly is in the upper echelon of yeah there
Speaker 3: would consider I'd consider them a blue blood right of
Speaker 3: college football.
Speaker 2: But this is just where does this stop?
Speaker 3: Because this is going to keep happening to and then
Speaker 3: just you throw on top of all the skewed finances
Speaker 3: and reality world of money and college athletics. Then you're
Speaker 3: throwing in il and you throw on the pressure of winning.
Speaker 3: As we said three weeks ago, uh, you know, James
Speaker 3: Franklin was number two in the country, number three in
Speaker 3: the country. Uh, just a handful of months ago he
Speaker 3: had won some playoff games, and now all of a
Speaker 3: sudden Boom snapped the fingers.
Speaker 2: You can give them forty.
Speaker 3: Nine million dollars and so you know, you basically like
Speaker 3: you lose two or three games in a row in
Speaker 3: today's world, and we can make it because of the
Speaker 3: NIL and the amount of money.
Speaker 2: That will all just shoose you how much money some
Speaker 2: people make.
Speaker 1: The people that are that are close to these universities
Speaker 1: and are alumni and care so much about what happens
Speaker 1: with the football croud they make so much money they
Speaker 1: can step in and do this. And I said this
Speaker 1: earlier with Willie. What I've been told by ads and
Speaker 1: football people is well, now because of nil and the
Speaker 1: fact that team, the number one thing that moves these
Speaker 1: recruits is the money.
Speaker 2: Coaches will get a little bit longer lease.
Speaker 1: They'll get a longer leash because in this case, a
Speaker 1: Penn State or any team doesn't want to spend forty
Speaker 1: nine million.
Speaker 2: Dollars to buy out a coach.
Speaker 1: They'd rather take that forty nine million and buy some
Speaker 1: players with it over the next six years. That was
Speaker 1: what was I've been told, That's what was kind of promised.
Speaker 1: That's not what's happening, yeah at all. Like these coaches
Speaker 1: have even a smaller lease argue then they use to
Speaker 1: which again makes it all the more crazier how how
Speaker 1: big the money comes in, and just kind of just
Speaker 1: like that just kind of yeah, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: solves the problem and let's move on.
Speaker 2: Yep, Luke Fickles buy out.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm looking at USA today, twenty seven
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin don't have twenty seven million. You could argue to
Speaker 2: pay him, or do they?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I would have said two weeks ago, I would have
Speaker 1: said there's no way. But but now we're seeing all
Speaker 1: these these guys getting released.
Speaker 3: You say, maybe Mike Norvel down at Florida State, his
Speaker 3: buyout is fifty eight million dollars. Thank you, Jimmy Sexton,
Speaker 3: the super agent for college football coaches, at some point
Speaker 3: that that's the thing that needs to happen. Like and
Speaker 3: I guess it's a leverage thing. If you're a coach
Speaker 3: in a top school, once you and you're the the
Speaker 3: you're the top guy name out there, you kind of
Speaker 3: call your own shots. But these these ads.
Speaker 1: Should be hell responsible for given those kind of contracts
Speaker 1: and just just.
Speaker 2: Eating that amount of money. I don't envy.
Speaker 3: I don't envy the athletic directors at all today's world too,
Speaker 3: because it's like you're balancing all these things. How long
Speaker 3: do you give a coach? I mean, look at Scott Sadderfield.
Speaker 3: How long was John Cunningham sitting there saying how much
Speaker 3: longer do I give this guy?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 3: Now they're five and one and you know, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: little patients. I know it's still there's still a lot
Speaker 3: of season left, but all right, things seem to be
Speaker 3: trending in the right now.
Speaker 1: That's a tough gigs is one of the big money
Speaker 1: guy called and said, listen, this is unaccepted.
Speaker 2: When you better do this. It takes a strong person.
Speaker 1: I nope, We're gonna hold out to stay the course,
Speaker 1: but I think fewer and fewer ads have that.
Speaker 2: All let's go and check some trafficking weather. How are
Speaker 2: we looking?
Speaker 9: When are you going to start coaching? That's what I
Speaker 9: want exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this place pays me, so nevermind.
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, yes, you got coaches money here. Sure
Speaker 9: from the youth he.
Speaker 1: The four o'clock news, We're going to check on checking
Speaker 1: in with our good friend Dan Snell he's a political expert,
Speaker 1: and talk about you know, Trump and the hostage negotiations
Speaker 1: and getting those twenty Israeli hostages back and good news
Speaker 1: on the front and ask him what to do about
Speaker 1: the government stoppage and what should happen with all that
Speaker 1: was discussed some politics with Dan here at four o'clock,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to discuss real quick.
Speaker 2: You know him, I know him. A lot of folks have.
Speaker 1: You don't know him, you've at least heard him calling games.
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Bearcat legend, passed away today, seventy two years old,
Speaker 1: seventy two. I mean he was the leading receiver here
Speaker 1: with the Bearcats seventy three to seventy five.
Speaker 2: Early in life. He was a ball boy.
Speaker 1: I mean he just, I mean literally was the personification
Speaker 1: of UC athletics. And got a chance to talk with
Speaker 1: him here and there over the years. Tremendous guy, I
Speaker 1: said with Willie. I know his son, Dave Kelly very
Speaker 1: very well. He was our spotter for my ESPN games
Speaker 1: for three seasons. He was my play by play guy,
Speaker 1: my play by play guy, Clay Maviick.
Speaker 2: It was his spot er.
Speaker 1: So I worked with Dave twenty games, A year for
Speaker 1: three years, and you talk about like that's a hard gig.
Speaker 1: So spotter, if you don't know, is someone who He's
Speaker 1: the extra set of eyes in the booth. So if
Speaker 1: you're you're looking at him to play with, like who
Speaker 1: made the tackle? There was that number thirty two or
Speaker 1: thirty three, I don't know. He's there to kind of
Speaker 1: say point to the number. But he was more than
Speaker 1: just the guy who pointed to who made the tackle.
Speaker 1: He like had incredible football knowledge. And literally twice a
Speaker 1: game I would talk to Dave, I'd say, take my
Speaker 1: head set off and say what am I missing?
Speaker 2: What do I not? And he'd be like, well, hey
Speaker 2: remember this happening. Boom good.
Speaker 1: Thanks anyway, So I know Dave more than I know Jim.
Speaker 1: But the times I've talked to Jim, just a tremendous,
Speaker 1: tremendous guy.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: I loved him, loved him, loved listening to him. I
Speaker 3: told him this. Yeah, a few years ago, I thought
Speaker 3: I thought he was honestly like, he was a very
Speaker 3: very good color analyst on football. I thought he was
Speaker 3: very underrated. Yes, you know, do you see football all
Speaker 3: those years in this town not being a big thing.
Speaker 3: But he was there, and they had him on our
Speaker 3: podcasts at the Inquirer a few years ago. It was
Speaker 3: before the Notre Dame game, and at the moment they
Speaker 3: won that game, the first thing I thought about was him,
Speaker 3: because this is a guy who as a player, his
Speaker 3: dad being an administrator and a coach there for so
Speaker 3: many years, saw the worst of the worst. Was there
Speaker 3: when they lost eighty one and nothing at Penn State.
Speaker 3: Was there and all those times when almos should you
Speaker 3: see drop football? Was there when people were making funny
Speaker 3: you see when no one was coming to the games.
Speaker 3: When I was a freshman in college, I remember at
Speaker 3: UC like empty stadium and but gone at Jim Kelly
Speaker 3: was there, yep, and believing and believing honest with honesty.
Speaker 2: He gave everybody else some belief and a lot of folks.
Speaker 3: True ambassador for the university, for the football program.
Speaker 2: You'll be missed. He's the best.
Speaker 3: And again thoughts to his family and we say god speed.
Speaker 2: Did a great Jim Kelly.
Speaker 1: And with that the new seven hundred WLW alongside Jason Williams,
Speaker 1: and we're tracking down our guest here, Dan Snell, to
Speaker 1: discuss I'm pretty historic going on right with the ceasefire
Speaker 1: that was negotiated by Trump and the the freeing of
Speaker 1: what upwards of twenty hostages that have been in captivity
Speaker 1: for two and a half years now. And I mean
Speaker 1: we're sitting here in the in the studio and on
Speaker 1: the TVs we're seeing some of these videos which are
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible of of you know, these folks getting reunited
Speaker 1: with with their their families, which is a a great,
Speaker 1: great thing to see in order to discuss this and
Speaker 1: much much more.
Speaker 2: We always enjoy talking with him.
Speaker 1: He's our political export expert, the Winso Way, the Winso candidate.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited Dan that I stumbled over my words there.
Speaker 1: But we're excited to talk to you, Dan Snell. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the program.
Speaker 2: How are you? Thank you, Rocky.
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, good to be with you and Jason. Yeah.
Speaker 7: There are probably sometimes that people want to export me,
Speaker 7: in my opinions, they want to get me out of
Speaker 7: the country. But I'm always happy to be with you.
Speaker 7: And an exciting day in the world, isn't it today?
Speaker 7: As you said, the hugs and the cheers and the
Speaker 7: tears and the excitement of what took place there. Whatever
Speaker 7: your viewpoint on politics, President Trump and the United States
Speaker 7: having put this together should be should be cheered. And
Speaker 7: we have our challenges, but this day is a good
Speaker 7: day for Donald Trump and the United States and Israel
Speaker 7: and the world.
Speaker 1: So, Dan, I mean kind of encapsulate that I put
Speaker 1: this into perspective for us. I mean, you're talking about
Speaker 1: two sides that have been at each other's throats like
Speaker 1: since the beginning of time and there's now a ceasefire.
Speaker 1: Just putting into perspective what the I guess the magnitude of.
Speaker 7: This Yeah, yeah, Literally a biblical perspective is the history
Speaker 7: of these two nations and the fight over there. And
Speaker 7: if Donald Trump can bring it together and keep it together.
Speaker 7: I think the key is keeping things together to get
Speaker 7: both sides. Certainly, there's going to be moments, right There's
Speaker 7: going to be people are going to be agitated over
Speaker 7: this or that and disagreement. But if we can keep
Speaker 7: it together, it is a breakthrough. And especially if they
Speaker 7: can find a pathway to get Gaza redeveloped in a
Speaker 7: way that allows some people to come home, it's going
Speaker 7: to be It is a giant thing for the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, this is a bigger, broader question, you know,
Speaker 3: we tend to want to get in the weed about
Speaker 3: Donald Trump here in America, but on the global scale,
Speaker 3: this is just an incredible, incredible feat. And this is
Speaker 3: something that you know, fifty years from now in the
Speaker 3: history books they'll be talking about Donald Trump as a
Speaker 3: peacemaker in the Middle East and where does all that
Speaker 3: come from from him? And how in the heck has
Speaker 3: he been able to do that?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, he has a strong personality and he
Speaker 7: can pick up the phone as the most powerful man
Speaker 7: in the world, pick up the phone and try to
Speaker 7: talk to people, encourage people. And I think that he
Speaker 7: probably laid down the law with Israel with regards to
Speaker 7: some of the things that they were doing that were
Speaker 7: causing upset in the Middle East and even here in America.
Speaker 7: And yet he also for Hamas said you know, no Moss, Hamas,
Speaker 7: no Moss, do not do what you're doing anymore, or
Speaker 7: it will You'll be obliterated. So he has the strength
Speaker 7: of character and personality to do that. And long long term, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm old enough to remember that for a long time,
Speaker 7: Jimmy Carter was considered the peacemaker and he had the
Speaker 7: piece accords at the White House, and so Trump has
Speaker 7: an opportunity and next year, yes, at this stage he
Speaker 7: probably will win the Nobel Peace Prize, and so things
Speaker 7: will be calmer in the world and hopefully in the
Speaker 7: United States. We can carry that over into these budget
Speaker 7: these budget hearings, maybe we can get some negotiations and
Speaker 7: communication improved there.
Speaker 1: Now, Now, Dan, you said earlier, the big question is, yes,
Speaker 1: how long does this last? My opinion and thought is,
Speaker 1: of course from the Israelis point of view, it'll continue
Speaker 1: forever and unless they are bombed or fired upon. Right,
Speaker 1: so they're perfectly happy with just not messing with Amas
Speaker 1: and you guys go stay over there, We'll stay over here.
Speaker 1: But so it really comes down to Palestine and Hamas, Right,
Speaker 1: do you think that they will What is their incentive,
Speaker 1: whether by force or otherwise, what is their incentive to
Speaker 1: keep this peace deal?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, and they may feel like they want to
Speaker 7: keep peace, but there are players. There is evil in
Speaker 7: the world. Then it come might be outside of Hamas
Speaker 7: and the Palestinians, and it could be someone from US,
Speaker 7: you know, Iran Led or someone that's a terrorist group
Speaker 7: that has nothing to do with those, but yet who
Speaker 7: will get blamed is Hamas and the Palestinians, and so
Speaker 7: Israel excellent in their intelligence in the world, as the
Speaker 7: United States is.
Speaker 2: Pretty good too.
Speaker 7: We need to just make sure that we don't blame
Speaker 7: be quick to blame one side or the other. But
Speaker 7: my you know, I think the world's prayers that we
Speaker 7: can have this finally be at peace.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you referenced it earlier.
Speaker 3: I mean, fighting in some form or fashion in the
Speaker 3: Middle East has been going on since the biblical times.
Speaker 3: So what role now does Donald Trump play? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you go in there and you broke her
Speaker 3: this deal. What role does he in America play in
Speaker 3: now for this to be able to sustain and continue on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know they've organized a group that's going
Speaker 7: to manage the process or control and Donald Trump is
Speaker 7: going to be the chairman of that. And of course,
Speaker 7: I say with a smile. As a developer, he's always
Speaker 7: got to twinkle in his eye because he sees that
Speaker 7: that opportunity that something could be developed there, and I'm
Speaker 7: sure part of him thinks, oh, maybe his family could
Speaker 7: be a part of that development. And they do a
Speaker 7: good job in development, so that's possible. And if it
Speaker 7: would help bring that to a quicker resolution of redevelopment,
Speaker 7: then maybe that's the way to do it. But the
Speaker 7: United States has to have this calm, steady, firm hand
Speaker 7: addressing all sides to keep this so it doesn't blow
Speaker 7: up again.
Speaker 1: Well, to your point, it's going to take someone that
Speaker 1: is as strong as Donald Trump, if it's not himself,
Speaker 1: you know, his predecessor, someone who is strong and respected
Speaker 1: and dare I say feared in order for this to
Speaker 1: because as soon as someone you know, God forbid, steps
Speaker 1: back in the White House who's a weak person a
Speaker 1: week leader, all this stuff just ramps back up.
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's essentially what we've got to
Speaker 2: hope for.
Speaker 1: Here, Dan snows our guests here, Now, Dan, let's turn
Speaker 1: back here to UH to the United States, and there's
Speaker 1: a government shutdown going on. So after Trump has negotiated
Speaker 1: this peace deal uh here in in in Gaza with Israel,
Speaker 1: what what what are some of the things he should
Speaker 1: focus on here in the unit in the United States
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the government shut down back on
Speaker 1: negotiating with the other side.
Speaker 2: How do you see it?
Speaker 7: You know, certainly, if I'm Donald Trump, I come home
Speaker 7: and I say gush, if I can broke her peace
Speaker 7: in the most long standing battle of the I can.
Speaker 7: I can certainly bring people into my office and and
Speaker 7: broker and negotiate, and you know, is not a dirty where,
Speaker 7: It's not a four letter word. And I think that
Speaker 7: what the first thing has to do is we need
Speaker 7: to just get the president or someone to say, let's
Speaker 7: sit around the table and let's not leave this table
Speaker 7: until we have a compromise to get things opened up.
Speaker 7: And the Democrats are probably asking for a little bit
Speaker 7: too much. And I think that Mike Johnson, I think
Speaker 7: some of the words that are being used to constantly
Speaker 7: blame both sides, blame each other.
Speaker 2: That doesn't do any good.
Speaker 7: Just get everybody in the room and President Trump. He's
Speaker 7: got momentum, right Moe is wearing red. And if momentum
Speaker 7: can he can carry that into these negotiations, then I
Speaker 7: think that would be another win. So he's got a
Speaker 7: win abroad, and he could have a win at home
Speaker 7: if he would be the top negotiator in his office
Speaker 7: or somewhere of this budget shutdown.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, Dan that the momentum is
Speaker 3: wearing red right now, because I think everyday Americans, I mean,
Speaker 3: are you near feeling this or you have you even
Speaker 3: really thought is it have package your life? And so
Speaker 3: to me that that hands it to the majority party
Speaker 3: politically right, And I think the Democrats are sitting here
Speaker 3: thinking they can maybe make political hay out of this
Speaker 3: as you turn the corner into and then you know,
Speaker 3: in the next year's election year. But I don't see
Speaker 3: that happening. How about but you're the expert on the stand,
Speaker 3: what do you make of that?
Speaker 7: Well, some people might export me for this, but again,
Speaker 7: but for the studies are the polls show that seventy
Speaker 7: percent of Americans do believe that specifically on the case
Speaker 7: of helping those that are on the government healthcare Obamacare,
Speaker 7: if you want to call it that, because I know
Speaker 7: people personally, a couple of friends of mine and my
Speaker 7: daughter is self employed that she is on that program
Speaker 7: and her race with what now that's going to happen.
Speaker 7: The reason they have to address just that right now
Speaker 7: is because if they don't address it now and they
Speaker 7: wait for weeks to figure that out, then the rates
Speaker 7: will go up. So they have to make a commitment
Speaker 7: that they're going to stand with the support to not
Speaker 7: increase that now that's the only thing the Democrats should
Speaker 7: ask for, and forget all this other things they're asking for,
Speaker 7: but just take care of the seventy percent of Americans
Speaker 7: do say, hey, we think on healthcare we need to
Speaker 7: those subsidies need to stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But do the majority of Americans think that Americans
Speaker 1: and to say taxpayers should be paying for health care
Speaker 1: for illegal aliens, The polls I've seen say they do not.
Speaker 7: Well, that's a separate issue too, The illegal aliens issue,
Speaker 7: separate from the subsidies for those Americans who are buying
Speaker 7: healthcare through the portals now through the healthcare dot gov
Speaker 7: for instance, somebody that might be paying three hundred and
Speaker 7: sixty dollars a month now it could go up to
Speaker 7: six hundred seven hundred dollars if that's substantie isn't remain
Speaker 7: That's separate. That's from healthcare for your neighbors and my neighbors.
Speaker 7: And probably fifteen percent of the listeners that we have
Speaker 7: here today could be on that and so the other
Speaker 7: items with regards to illegal aliens getting any type of
Speaker 7: extended healthcare. No, I don't think anybody you're right, No
Speaker 7: one agrees that that should take place now emergency room issue.
Speaker 7: Ronald Reagan my hero, you know right about him. In
Speaker 7: the Wins of Candidate Ronald Reagan says, we won't deny
Speaker 7: somebody bleeding in an emergency room, but then then they
Speaker 7: have to leave after we've gotten them stabilized. That's one thing.
Speaker 7: But this extended care and some of the other things
Speaker 7: for different types of citizens, we need to look at that.
Speaker 7: But first, let's just take care of the the Jimmy
Speaker 7: Jones and Sally Smith that are on healthcare dot gov.
Speaker 2: Hey man, dance now listen. We really appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: The wins some way, the wins some candidate folks want
Speaker 1: to find out more about.
Speaker 2: You and what you have going on.
Speaker 1: And I know you got a lot going on, Dan,
Speaker 1: So tell folks how they can get more in touch
Speaker 1: with you and what you have coming down the pipe.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 7: Sure, well. The books are available on Amazon or Barnes
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Speaker 7: they wins candidate dot com. Learn a little bit about
Speaker 7: me and my beliefs for a fresher positive start for America.
Speaker 7: And I'm working on something maybe we've talked about down
Speaker 7: the road. There are probably seventy three percent of your
Speaker 7: listeners or either a single parent or have gone through
Speaker 7: divorce or in a blended family step family. I'm working
Speaker 7: on a national program for that that will really impact
Speaker 7: hearts in a positive way. So that's for another day.
Speaker 7: It's always good to be with WLW. You know, win
Speaker 7: some starts with WWLW. You got lots of w's there.
Speaker 7: I can never go wrong being with you, Rocky and Jason,
Speaker 7: and say hi to Eddie, say hi to Cambreu. And
Speaker 7: great to be with.
Speaker 1: You guys man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Okay them, Yep, you got thanks Dan, Dan Snello. He's right.
Speaker 1: He breaks things down in a pretty easily understandable way.
Speaker 2: With those stuff he does. Let's go and check some
Speaker 2: trafficking weather.
Speaker 1: How are we looking, Jason Williams and Jason, you have
Speaker 1: a Mark Sanchez sort of kind of updated.
Speaker 3: Yes, the mother of his eight year old son has
Speaker 3: taken to Instagram and Mark Sanchez of course.
Speaker 2: Uh incident he was with he's with what Fox.
Speaker 3: He was getting ready to call the game and uh
Speaker 3: got stabbed, got into an incident with someone on the
Speaker 3: street at the hotel and just was released. Uh we
Speaker 3: just I saw a video of the local TV station
Speaker 3: just recently. But she has Aaron her name is She
Speaker 3: is a a UK supermodel. Aaron Campanias took to social
Speaker 3: medium basically like said that she's isn't surprised by this
Speaker 3: with Mark Sanchez and that I am aware of the
Speaker 3: serious criminal charges currently facing my son's father, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 3: My first, my foremost priority has always been and remains
Speaker 3: our eight year old son Daniel. I chose to remain
Speaker 3: silent publicly to protect him. Not everything is out in
Speaker 3: the open. My focus hasn't changed. I've always been concerned
Speaker 3: for his safety and for what he is exposed to. Sadly,
Speaker 3: none of this is surprising to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've heard a lot of people
Speaker 1: talk about recently he has you know, he has trouble
Speaker 1: with alcohol and you know that that sort of thing
Speaker 1: which was a factor and the last thing, no matter
Speaker 1: what exactly the circumstances are, so yeah, I just can't.
Speaker 1: It can't be at his age, you know, two days
Speaker 1: before a game, out at twelve thirty at night, like
Speaker 1: like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Like like go.
Speaker 3: Home at thirty eight years old, thirty eight years old,
Speaker 3: go back to hotel, get a good night's sleep and
Speaker 3: and do your job. So I didn't realize this, but
Speaker 3: reading the story of him and his wife for expecting
Speaker 3: twins right now, yeah, that's not good. All right now,
Speaker 3: we will take a break. We'll come back. We have
Speaker 3: more seven hundred Wow.
Speaker 1: Five o'clock news, the one the only Dave Lapper voice up. Bengals,
Speaker 1: Gonna break it all down for us and maybe preview
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game. Big Thursday night game. Jason in store,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers huge, Sorry Bengals heavy warp every team you mentioned,
Speaker 1: It's like it's your that's right. Until then, Jason, what
Speaker 1: was the the longest you've ran in one?
Speaker 3: Thirteen miles? Was my p I ran cross believe it
Speaker 3: or not, Rock I ran cross country in high school.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: I did just kidding, it was all It was only
Speaker 3: to get ready for basketball.
Speaker 2: So is that officially half marathon? Thirteen months? That would
Speaker 2: have been?
Speaker 3: That was like my PR We had a PR day
Speaker 3: every year, And that was the most I ever did
Speaker 3: in one run.
Speaker 1: Well, you got me be because honestly, the most I've
Speaker 1: ever run in one instance is probably about five miles.
Speaker 2: That's good. I was a Saint accent.
Speaker 1: Tracks we ran, you know, I you know, down North
Speaker 1: Bend Road there and you know, all the way and
Speaker 1: then you know, back up the hill, back up the hill.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was a grind. Yeah, but no, I've
Speaker 1: never been a good at distance guy. I've you know,
Speaker 1: in sprint, never been a good distance guy. But uh,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you have ran a significant amount
Speaker 1: of distance in one sitting, call the show five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, because I'm about to tell you about history
Speaker 1: being made Jason. In the world of ultra marathoning. These
Speaker 1: are sounds like a blast marathons that are like over
Speaker 1: two hundred miles and like okay, and this this guy
Speaker 1: named Killian Course, Okay, and he just won the Moab
Speaker 1: to forty Okay, which, as the name states, is a
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty mile.
Speaker 2: Run to a forty mile run.
Speaker 3: Yes, Holy yes, And the he did two hundred forty
Speaker 3: miles in two days, three hours, in twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 2: That's the amount of time he was running.
Speaker 1: Now, he during the course of those two days he
Speaker 1: stopped for a grand total of seven hours and twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: But but but running, he was running for a grand.
Speaker 1: Total of a course of two two plus days, two days,
Speaker 1: three hours, twenty eight minutes. Okay, now he has actually
Speaker 1: won the triple crown of Ultra marathoning.
Speaker 2: Okay, he won the why why why? Uh See?
Speaker 1: He ran the Tahoe two hundred durance race in fifty
Speaker 1: two hours, forty minutes and fifty two seconds. He ran
Speaker 1: the Big Foot two hundred endurance race that's about two
Speaker 1: hundred and eight miles, has an elevation game of of
Speaker 1: forty five thousand feet, did that in forty five hours,
Speaker 1: three minutes, forty one seconds, and he only won that
Speaker 1: race by forty two minutes. And then he lastly won
Speaker 1: the Moab two forty So that's a grand total of
Speaker 1: four hundred and eight point one miles, grabbing the the
Speaker 1: triple crown.
Speaker 2: So, and we have called, and you have answered, Let's
Speaker 2: go to the phones.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Connie in the great area of town
Speaker 1: Cleaves where I used to live. And now, Connie, you
Speaker 1: are an ultra marathon or is that correct?
Speaker 5: I am in on the west side and there are
Speaker 5: actually many ultrarunners in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Really, so there's like a whole like, yes, group of
Speaker 1: you guys you guys that are crazy insane.
Speaker 5: Yes, And the crazy thing is it starts to become
Speaker 5: normal when you hang around in a group like this,
Speaker 5: and it's actually not normal.
Speaker 2: No, it's not normal at all. So how did you
Speaker 2: find out? How did you like run cross country?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: How did you find out you wanted to run one
Speaker 1: hundred plus miles at a time kind of thing?
Speaker 5: Which I actually have and it's a painful sport. But
Speaker 5: I think most people around here would say that they
Speaker 5: started doing, you know, road marathons, and then started hearing
Speaker 5: about this trail running and then you just kind of
Speaker 5: get sucked into it.
Speaker 2: Is what happens.
Speaker 3: It show sounds like addicting, almost like you're just well,
Speaker 3: it's it, yeah, energy, you know runners, high runners high yeah, adrelline.
Speaker 5: Run well yeah sort of. So then you're like, okay,
Speaker 5: twenty six point two, and then you're like, oh a
Speaker 5: fifty k well that's thirty one, and then oh a
Speaker 5: fifty miler and then wait a minute, one hundred miler
Speaker 5: and then it gets really crazy. I mean, do you
Speaker 5: guys know there's like three hundred milers now.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well it's like the one of the
Speaker 3: two forty was it the MOAB two forty Yeah, yep,
Speaker 3: So that's that's like running from Cincinnati to Cleveland. Cleveland's
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty nine miles from Cincinnati. It's almost
Speaker 3: as space.
Speaker 5: Right, So there's that triple crown of two hundreds which
Speaker 5: you just mentioned, but then this monster came along last year,
Speaker 5: which is three hundred and the interest. The thing that
Speaker 5: people don't know about it maybe is it's very expensive
Speaker 5: to do something like that.
Speaker 2: So explain that.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a team of people that meet
Speaker 1: you and give you water while you're running or sandwich
Speaker 1: or how's that work?
Speaker 5: So crewe and pacers. So crewe are people like you know,
Speaker 5: for Rocky, maybe your friend Jonathan or something would come
Speaker 5: and be with you at these aid stations and help
Speaker 5: you out. But then a pacer is someone who would
Speaker 5: actually be with you on the course, doing it with you,
Speaker 5: keeping you company overnight so that you don't fall asleep
Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff off.
Speaker 3: So wait, what wouldn't it be the other way around then?
Speaker 3: Like or is is a pac or something with that
Speaker 3: is the pacer running or is it or on a bike?
Speaker 5: No, the pacer is run like for this Moab two
Speaker 5: forty the pacer is with the runner for probably the
Speaker 5: last one hundred miles. Let's say they're allowed to jump.
Speaker 7: In and pace.
Speaker 2: Oh so they're not with you the entire time.
Speaker 5: No, it's usually like halfway through us I can jump
Speaker 5: in and be with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like multiple pacers come right, and their job
Speaker 3: is to run at a whatever the standard is for
Speaker 3: a shorter amount of time, right, and keep you up
Speaker 3: to that, and then maybe another one comes in right, yes, or.
Speaker 5: If you're a good runner, like you know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of good Cincinnati runners, maybe they jump in with
Speaker 5: you for a whole fifty miles or one hundred miles
Speaker 5: or something like that. It just depends.
Speaker 1: Now, explain to us conne if you can, like, like
Speaker 1: just from a biological standpoint, like what happens to your
Speaker 1: body from experience as you're running, is I mean your knees,
Speaker 1: your hips, your ankle, is your feet, Like, tell me
Speaker 1: all the things.
Speaker 2: That go on there.
Speaker 5: I actually just did this yesterday in Indiana, and it's
Speaker 5: all fun and games at one hundred let's say, until
Speaker 5: the last thirty miles and then you just kind of
Speaker 5: get a little tired of the whole thing. But what
Speaker 5: people don't talk about too is the recovery from it
Speaker 5: that takes a few days.
Speaker 2: I imagine what's the part of your body that takes
Speaker 2: the most damage?
Speaker 5: Though it sort of depends on what the weather is
Speaker 5: maybe that day, you know, is it muddy as heck?
Speaker 4: Is it dry?
Speaker 5: But a lot of times it's your feet, especially if
Speaker 5: it's raining. You really got to try to You're trying
Speaker 5: to put out a lot of fires. You know, if
Speaker 5: you're running for thirty hours, let's say on one hundred miler,
Speaker 5: you're putting out a lot of fires.
Speaker 3: So are there rules about you know, you can stop
Speaker 3: and take because you're talking about the mo ab to
Speaker 3: forty and I know that's not a hundred, Like that's
Speaker 3: double that?
Speaker 2: Are you ab is like five days?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So are you you're allowed to stop or like what
Speaker 2: are the rules around that?
Speaker 3: I assume there's rules around that, Right You're allowed to
Speaker 3: stop for only X amount of time at X amount
Speaker 3: of points?
Speaker 2: Or is it just you can do your own.
Speaker 5: Pace at a race like that? There are actually sleep stations, okay,
Speaker 5: where you know they have all this great food for
Speaker 5: you that they cook, but you can actually take a
Speaker 5: nap for you know, whatever three hours, but in one
Speaker 5: hundred mile or let's say, if you're a slower runner,
Speaker 5: you don't have time to take a nap. You're running
Speaker 5: from like six in the morning to say noon in
Speaker 5: the next day, which is can be a long way
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 2: So you have done one hundred miles, so you've run
Speaker 2: for what over twenty four hours?
Speaker 5: Well, I have, but again there are a lot of
Speaker 5: people way better than me in Cincinnati. But you just
Speaker 5: you know, I guess we all just kind of have
Speaker 5: a passion for it, really, which is.
Speaker 7: What you need.
Speaker 2: Kind This is great radio.
Speaker 1: No, I much respect to you because that's something I
Speaker 1: feel like I can. There's a lot of things I
Speaker 1: can and will do that will never be one of them.
Speaker 1: I could never approach it. I have the utmost respect
Speaker 1: for anybody that can.
Speaker 3: To me, it's not the physical side would would be
Speaker 3: absolutely growing, but mentally to do that and keep your
Speaker 3: mind clear, and that would be the thing I think
Speaker 3: that would attack a lot of people.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, but obviously you were in the NFL, so
Speaker 5: you know about the mental Come on now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at games three and a half hours, not
Speaker 2: three days.
Speaker 3: Say, I'm in daily journalism, I know about the mental
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, well look.
Speaker 5: I respect both of you. I love the show. I
Speaker 5: listen every day, and ultra running is a crazy thing,
Speaker 5: but it's just it's a hobby like anything else, and
Speaker 5: everybody has different hobbies.
Speaker 2: Well, Connie, listen.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you calling and sharing your story with us,
Speaker 1: and God bless you that that is truly true, very
Speaker 1: very cool.
Speaker 2: Thank you you both.
Speaker 5: You both take care bright.
Speaker 2: Thank you Connie. That was awesome. That was great.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I love what Connie back for the next time they
Speaker 2: do big ye.
Speaker 1: Run or yeah Connie, next whatever, the next ultra marathon
Speaker 1: race coming up is call the show in a couple
Speaker 1: of days a week before we'll talk.
Speaker 2: To you about and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: We could have kept her because I had more question
Speaker 1: like well here, here, let's go to Cincinnati and talk
Speaker 1: to John. John, there's someone you know that was a
Speaker 1: like a distance runner Ultra Marathon.
Speaker 6: I didn't know her personally, but she taught my daughter
Speaker 6: how to swim at the Blue Ash Why and I
Speaker 6: think that's about thirteen miles to downtown and she and
Speaker 6: he and they lived a little bit further out than
Speaker 6: that even but she would run with her girlfriend to
Speaker 6: the marathon, run the whole marathon, twenty six miles whatever,
Speaker 6: and then run back.
Speaker 2: Run back home.
Speaker 6: I was like, fifty two fifty two plus miles.
Speaker 4: Wow, she was a little thing.
Speaker 6: She was as probably as close to anarexic other than
Speaker 6: being anorexic.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean she she was so skinny. Couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6: She's probably in her twenties, you know, firefoot maybe, I
Speaker 6: mean she's well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and John, thank you.
Speaker 1: You can't be a big gallery guy and run a marathon,
Speaker 1: especially in ultra marathon.
Speaker 2: I thought my little cross country runs were her feet.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling a dad this. He coaches with me
Speaker 3: and his younger son runs a cross country I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: those are a lot of cross country meets are a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. And I said this when I was
Speaker 3: a kid growing up, I loved everything about cross country
Speaker 3: except the running.
Speaker 2: The meats are black.
Speaker 10: See.
Speaker 1: But to me, I have a vivid memory of being
Speaker 1: at football practice at st. Ex High School and being
Speaker 1: out there and seeing the cross country runners and you
Speaker 1: see one, and then you know, you have like forty
Speaker 1: five minutes of practice and you see the guy again.
Speaker 2: And I always thought to him.
Speaker 1: I always had the utmost respect for those guys because
Speaker 1: I could never do it, and I thought to myself
Speaker 1: the bigger challenges in football. There's different stuff you work on,
Speaker 1: like like on Wednesday you work on first and ten
Speaker 1: and then you work on red zone and at cross
Speaker 1: country practice show all yeah, and the coach says, guess what.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do today.
Speaker 1: Guys, We're gonna guess what we're doing tomorrow, run and
Speaker 1: then the next day run yeah.
Speaker 2: So again, just.
Speaker 1: Every single day, that's what you're doing. Mad respect, Mad respect.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and check some All right,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to News Radio seven hundred WL. You're rocking
Speaker 1: alongside Jason Williams. Coming up after the top of the
Speaker 1: hour news lap, we'll join us to break it all
Speaker 1: down the Bengals game yesterday. We got about a minute here, Jason.
Speaker 1: There's been some breaking news involved in Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: Justin thanks for our news guy Jack Cromley for popping
Speaker 3: in learning this to this is that the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 3: owners Jimmy and d Haslam, have reached a one hundred
Speaker 3: million dollars settlement with the city of Cleveland to officially
Speaker 3: move the team from Cleveland out to the suburbs brook
Speaker 3: Park by the airport there in Cleveland. Yeah, they've already
Speaker 3: cleared so many other hurdles, but this was one where,
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of little bureaucratic things, a
Speaker 3: silly Modell wall that says you couldn't move a team
Speaker 3: after Art Modell moved the team to Baltimore, and even
Speaker 3: you couldn't move a team from you know, a city
Speaker 3: out to even the same region in a suburb. I
Speaker 3: knew that was really a nothing burger. But ultimately the
Speaker 3: Haslms have agreed over three decades to pay one hundred
Speaker 3: million dollars. The first payment will become this December of
Speaker 3: twenty five million, and that is to tear down the
Speaker 3: current stadium and redevelop that area where the stadium is
Speaker 3: right now on the lake front there Cleveland. So it'll
Speaker 3: pay one hundred million dollars hundred million dollars just to
Speaker 3: be able to move the stadium, just to be able
Speaker 3: to move to their suburban two point four billion billion
Speaker 3: dollars stadium covered stadium out by Cleveland Hopkins International Airport,
Speaker 3: brook Park, Ohio.
Speaker 2: How we looking, I don't know exactly where that is But.
Speaker 3: If you're if you if you're if you're looking, if
Speaker 3: you're on seventy one going north, you know you're looking
Speaker 3: at fifteen twenty minutes out of downtown, still in Cuyahoga County.
Speaker 2: It's just right there.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: It's it's still the it's still Greater Cleveland area. It's
Speaker 3: just a bigger suburban area where you can big, big
Speaker 3: lots of acreage to build township like Liberty Township.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You'll get some more updates on that
Speaker 1: as the days go on. But right now, the news
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW right at the gate at three o'clock.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be a Monday if we didn't check
Speaker 1: in with our next guest, the one, the only, the
Speaker 1: voice of the Bengals, Dave Lap, him and get his
Speaker 1: opinion on what transpired yesterday.
Speaker 2: Lap.
Speaker 8: How are you, guys? How the heck you doing today?
Speaker 8: Having a good day? I hope.
Speaker 2: To hear you good one, Lap.
Speaker 1: Now, I've I listened to you, listen to you a
Speaker 1: lot over the year's Lap, and you're often fond of
Speaker 1: talking about a tale of two halves, right, and that
Speaker 1: game yesterday, Lap was the personification of a tail of
Speaker 1: two halves from I mean, it'side the offense. The defense
Speaker 1: was pretty good, first half, offense not good, and then
Speaker 1: they switched. But either way it ended in the result
Speaker 1: it did, which was a Bengals fourth straight loss.
Speaker 8: Yeah, four straight losses. That that's a butt kicker, no
Speaker 8: question about that. I don't think the football team expected
Speaker 8: to go on a four game losing streak at this
Speaker 8: stage of the season. There's no doubt about that. And
Speaker 8: what the biggest problem is, like you say, it's it's
Speaker 8: non complimentary football. You know, they're just not playing a
Speaker 8: complete game. One side of the football is not supporting
Speaker 8: the other. When one side struggles, the other is not
Speaker 8: there to lift them, and uh and vice versas. So
Speaker 8: until they get that figured out, until they start playing
Speaker 8: a complete football game and on a series by serious
Speaker 8: snap by snap basis, they're gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 2: And now Lapp I thought, and I'm sure you did too.
Speaker 1: Flaco played great as he got, you know, more comfortable
Speaker 1: in a very short quick amount of time. Was pedestrian
Speaker 1: the first half, which is understandable because of a short
Speaker 1: amount of time with a team. Second half, he was
Speaker 1: great twenty one to thirty and seventy nine yards, two tds,
Speaker 1: no interceptions.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you this though, Lap, What's what's
Speaker 3: your experience as alignman playing with different quarterbacks, Like one
Speaker 3: one week you're playing with this guy, next week you're
Speaker 3: playing with that guy. Is there a difference in how
Speaker 3: the line plays or their mentality?
Speaker 8: That's good question, Rock. I mean, it's I have done that,
Speaker 8: and you know Kenny Anderson and Perk showing it. This
Speaker 8: was the first situation that I experienced that way, and
Speaker 8: it is it's different. There's an adjustment. There's an adjustment
Speaker 8: for the offensive line. There's an adjustment for the quarterback
Speaker 8: playing with that offensive line. You know, the cadence that
Speaker 8: the quarterback has is different. His his voice is different,
Speaker 8: the emphasis on whatever part of the cadence is different.
Speaker 8: And there's there's pauses, you know, different pauses in the
Speaker 8: cadence that that you know, make it it sound different.
Speaker 8: So it's it's not as easy as people think. It's
Speaker 8: not just roll out of bed and go play quarter
Speaker 8: Go play as an offensive line in front of a
Speaker 8: quarterback that you never played with before, and it's it's
Speaker 8: the timing of the fluidity is just out there. You know,
Speaker 8: it's not it's not as smooth that as it should be.
Speaker 8: And I thought, like you that boy once once Joe
Speaker 8: Flacco got his sea legs under him. Uh, he played
Speaker 8: very well, and I thought, you know, he gave them
Speaker 8: a chance to win, honestly in the second half in particular,
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, defense, special teams, the other two
Speaker 8: phases just didn't step up enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I laugh.
Speaker 3: I think there's i know, in the middle of a
Speaker 3: four game losing streak, but just looking at Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: and the front office going out and getting him and
Speaker 3: then what he did there in the second half, obviously
Speaker 3: making that adjustment fifteen completions to the two big stars,
Speaker 3: Chase and Higgins, the guy he can find those guys
Speaker 3: didn't do the interception. There's a lot I think can
Speaker 3: be taken from this with Joe Flacco moving forward, especially
Speaker 3: here in a short week as they turn around, they're
Speaker 3: going to come home for three games. There's a silver
Speaker 3: lying there right with him, and that there's hope for
Speaker 3: this offense to kind of get back going. Maybe not
Speaker 3: at the level of Joe Burrow, but certainly, you know,
Speaker 3: get it going and it could be solid.
Speaker 8: I agree Jase, there's no question that it could be solid,
Speaker 8: you know, and you look at it. He had no turnovers,
Speaker 8: didn't throw an interception, didn't didn't lose the football, didn't
Speaker 8: fumble it. Neither did any of his teammates in the
Speaker 8: running back positioning tight end or a wide receiver spot.
Speaker 8: But you know, that's that's uh that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 8: That's that's pretty good ball. And you know, not taking
Speaker 8: a quarterback sack as big, you know, you don't. You
Speaker 8: don't put yourself in a uh in you know, down
Speaker 8: on distance problem, and that's good for the offensive coordinator
Speaker 8: or play caller and everybody involved there as well. So
Speaker 8: I think that uh, I thought he played again well
Speaker 8: enough to win. I thought he played winning football, particularly
Speaker 8: in the second half. And I just don't think that
Speaker 8: the other phases UH were were up to the task.
Speaker 8: I mean, inconsistency is uh is their biggest problem. I mean,
Speaker 8: it's kind of their their calling card so far this season,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, they they just have not on
Speaker 8: a on a quarter by quarter basis, half by half basis,
Speaker 8: even series by series basis giving you the same type
Speaker 8: of performance well.
Speaker 1: Well to your point lap. I mean, so going to
Speaker 1: halftime as ten to nothing Packers. Bengals get the ball
Speaker 1: coming out of the third quarter and they get in
Speaker 1: an absolute groove right seventeen play drive, they have a
Speaker 1: third down conversion, a fourth down conversion for the touchdown.
Speaker 2: Obviously, okay, boom, it's ten to seven field goal game.
Speaker 2: We're in this thing. The Packers get the ball and
Speaker 2: just mo right down the field.
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom bom boom, touchdown right, So like okay,
Speaker 1: all right, and then the Bengals, to their credit, get
Speaker 1: the ball back again right and drive down the field.
Speaker 1: Now it's what seventeen to seventeen ten, They get a
Speaker 1: field goal and the Packers just march right back down
Speaker 1: the field. Now it's twenty four to ten.
Speaker 3: It's just there was no the defense, especially without Trey Henderson,
Speaker 3: was just nowhere to be found.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, there just was not any conpmary football
Speaker 8: being played, you know. I mean, it's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 8: the uh the offense for sleepwalking, but it woke up.
Speaker 8: But now the defense is in a trance. Man, what
Speaker 8: the heck? How about if we try to get both
Speaker 8: phases playing well together at the same time, and and
Speaker 8: you you mentioned Trey Henderson. I mean, that's a blow
Speaker 8: man and a back injury. You know, you just never
Speaker 8: know what backs, uh is it? Is it a spinal
Speaker 8: column issue? Is it a vertebrae issue? You know, you
Speaker 8: just you just don't know about those things. And hopefully
Speaker 8: it's nothing that serious. Hopefully he just maybe you know,
Speaker 8: sprained a muscle in his back or some kind of
Speaker 8: a soft tissue injury back there or whatever. But man,
Speaker 8: you know, I've I've I've seen teammates struggle, uh, dealing
Speaker 8: with back issues and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 8: you have starting to feel pretty good and then boom it,
Speaker 8: you have a setback. So sometimes those things can be
Speaker 8: very very difficult to get get over and deal with.
Speaker 3: You know, you guys talked about just a little bit
Speaker 3: ago about the offensive line, no sacks for Joe Flak.
Speaker 3: I keep onaning to say, bro Joe Flacco, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the offensive line has been maligned and but you know,
Speaker 3: and I know that the struggles of running the ball.
Speaker 3: But again, yet another positive I think out of yesterday
Speaker 3: was the no sacks. But was there something that was
Speaker 3: there a change that you saw in that unit yesterday
Speaker 3: that some kind of a tweak or something that helped
Speaker 3: them to perform better.
Speaker 8: I think I think Flacco helps him really. I mean
Speaker 8: he get rid of the ball like quickly right now.
Speaker 8: I mean he was making very quick reads, quick decisions,
Speaker 8: and the ball was out. I mean if if he
Speaker 8: had it in his hand over two and a half seconds,
Speaker 8: that was an upset, you know. And and that's gonna
Speaker 8: offensive lineman appreciate that, believe me. I mean they're they're
Speaker 8: around quarterbacks. Yeah, they're loving life there, so uh it's
Speaker 8: going to be you know interesting. I do think that
Speaker 8: the offensive line is playing better on a on a
Speaker 8: week to week basis. I think Scott Peters is helping,
Speaker 8: you know, them get the thing in sync. You know,
Speaker 8: not not five components of the offensive line playing individually,
Speaker 8: but you have to play as a unit. It's like
Speaker 8: a fist, you know. You just you curl the four
Speaker 8: fingers four fingers and wrap the thumb and it's just
Speaker 8: an involuntary reaction. It just happens, you know, naturally. And
Speaker 8: that's when a good offensive line is is is in
Speaker 8: rhythm and flowing smoothly. I mean, that's that's what you're
Speaker 8: that's what it's like to play and and and even
Speaker 8: just breaking it down to right and left side. Right guard,
Speaker 8: right tackle working together, left guard, left tackle working together.
Speaker 8: Uh you know, you take it for granted when it's
Speaker 8: going well, but it takes a while to get that
Speaker 8: kind of that kind of chemistry going between offensive linemen. So, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, if I just think as the season goes on,
Speaker 8: it's going to continue to improve, I don't think there's
Speaker 8: gonna be a regression there. I don't think Scott Peters
Speaker 8: would allow that. So I'm I'm optimistic that you know,
Speaker 8: the Bengals will play better as an offensive line, Joe
Speaker 8: Flacco's numbers will be consistently better, and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: they'll they'll run the football and pass the football and
Speaker 8: have a balanced offensive attack a lot.
Speaker 1: But a guy on the Bengals defense he didn't see
Speaker 1: much of was was Logan Wilson And and I didn't
Speaker 1: really notice it all at the time, but kind of
Speaker 1: going back and watching it, you know, Barrett Carter, uh right.
Speaker 2: He stepped in for him, but I didn't know he
Speaker 2: got sixty one snaps? Is that correct?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: Did I see that correctly? The rookie linebacker draft pick
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he did you know, and they were
Speaker 8: the Bengals. Al Golden decided that he was going to
Speaker 8: try to change things up from a schematic standpoint in
Speaker 8: terms of the numbers of linebackers and defensive lineman he
Speaker 8: had out there. You know, he was going four to
Speaker 8: three some uh four three four and then and then
Speaker 8: five two four as well, and and kind of changing
Speaker 8: that up, and even within within one series one set
Speaker 8: of downs, he'd have both of those configurations out there
Speaker 8: on the field, trying to confuse the quarterback and slow down,
Speaker 8: you know, the operation a little bit and and have
Speaker 8: some confusion with the offensive lineman in terms of, you know,
Speaker 8: not feeling real secure and real you know, real confident
Speaker 8: what they were doing in terms of making calls and
Speaker 8: and and and protecting and getting that run blocking uh
Speaker 8: uh game called properly and all the things that go
Speaker 8: along with that. So but Logan Wilson got very very
Speaker 8: few snaps and Carter good a bunch.
Speaker 2: There's no question lap off off off topic, but you
Speaker 2: know you're you.
Speaker 3: You work with Dan hard on Sundays or great ambassador
Speaker 3: uh for your organization, for the Bengals organization, and uh
Speaker 3: great at breaking the games down the radio did you
Speaker 3: get to know the guy who worked with with Dan
Speaker 3: for so many saturdays, you know, on the same radio
Speaker 3: station and Jim Kelly and great ambassador for the university.
Speaker 2: Did you get to know him at all over the years.
Speaker 8: I did, Yeah, I did. I did get to know
Speaker 8: Jim Kelly a little bit. I mean he he was
Speaker 8: a great ambassador for UC. And that's just a great family.
Speaker 8: That's a family of h you know, unbelievable success from
Speaker 8: an athletic standpoint, and and then just good people. I
Speaker 8: mean they're just solid, solid Cincinnati citizens as touched as such,
Speaker 8: they've made the community a much better, much better place
Speaker 8: to be. And what a what a sad, sad story.
Speaker 8: I mean, cancer, that insidious disease. Man, it's it's taken
Speaker 8: so many lives. There's probably all the people listening, there's
Speaker 8: probably not one of them from a family standpoint that
Speaker 8: you know, can say, yeah, we've we've never never been
Speaker 8: stricken by the disease. I mean, it seems to get everybody.
Speaker 8: And uh, it's thoughts and prayers and all that go
Speaker 8: out to the Kelly family for sure.
Speaker 2: A lot before you go.
Speaker 1: And by the way, very very well said about Jim
Speaker 1: Kelly before we let you go, though, Steelers, you know,
Speaker 1: quick turn around here Thursday night here at home.
Speaker 2: Steelers have won three straight. In the early thoughts on
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hate him, yeah, you know, but uh, you know,
Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin, A tip of the cap to that guy.
Speaker 8: I mean, what what a career he's had. And he's
Speaker 8: just a quality human being. He's an outstanding individual. There's
Speaker 8: there's no question about the leader of men. Everybody that's
Speaker 8: played for Mike Tomlin feels like they're a better person
Speaker 8: for having done so. He's just he's just one of
Speaker 8: those guys that you meet during the course of your
Speaker 8: life that that changes it, you know, and changed it
Speaker 8: from to a from a positive standpoint, there's no no
Speaker 8: two ways about that. But yeah, they've they've got everything.
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh solid as always, you know. I mean, they they
Speaker 8: can they can run it, they can throw it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 8: Defensively, they get after it. They've got you know, one
Speaker 8: of the one of the longest tenured players with his
Speaker 8: football team on the defensive side in the National Football League,
Speaker 8: and Cam Hayward. That guy's a stud man, he's a playmaker,
Speaker 8: he's a he's a nuisance he's a problem. You gotta
Speaker 8: you gotta put four hands and four eyeballs on that
Speaker 8: guy to make sure that you have him taken care
Speaker 8: of on a snap by snap basis, because that dude
Speaker 8: is a flat out game wrecker. They can run a linebacker.
Speaker 8: They have good, good people on the back end. It's
Speaker 8: it's a good football team. It's a proud organization. You know.
Speaker 8: The Rooney family has done a great job with the
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers for years and years and years. I remember
Speaker 8: playing against the Pittsburgh Steelers when they had guys like
Speaker 8: me and Joe Green and Ernie Holmes, Jack Lambert, Jack
Speaker 8: Cam's like, holy crap, man, It's like we're going out
Speaker 8: here and playing against the Hall of Famers. You know.
Speaker 8: It's like they're they're all going to be first the
Speaker 8: first ballot inductees to the Hall of Fame. And they
Speaker 8: they were. They they are just a talented group. And
Speaker 8: offensively they Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Ben Roethlisberg are throwing
Speaker 8: the football to those guys, Frank O'harris, Rocky Blier. It's
Speaker 8: it's amazing the number of guys that they had, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, getting things done for them over the years
Speaker 8: they've I don't think Mike Thomas had a losing season,
Speaker 8: so a year in and year out, they just they
Speaker 8: just they get things done in Pittsburgh. They know what
Speaker 8: they're doing and you get you get to tip your
Speaker 8: cap to the to the Rooney family, uh, to the
Speaker 8: all the scouts that they know exactly what a Pittsburgh
Speaker 8: Steeler is supposed to be. The Organizationally, they have a
Speaker 8: you know, they have this is this is exactly, they
Speaker 8: have a body type. They have all kinds of you know,
Speaker 8: by position obviously, but I mean they have they have dimensions,
Speaker 8: they have all kinds of things and attitude. You know,
Speaker 8: it's like, is this guy a team guy?
Speaker 7: You know he is.
Speaker 8: He got an ego that is hard to deal with.
Speaker 8: We don't want that. We don't want that poison in
Speaker 8: our locker room. We want, you know, it to be
Speaker 8: you know, harmonious. We want it to be a team,
Speaker 8: team entity. When the Pittsburgh Steelers show up, it's one
Speaker 8: for all for one. Here we go. There.
Speaker 1: You go to your point about Caam Hayward lab fifteen
Speaker 1: years in the league playing defensive line. Now, I mean
Speaker 1: just some quick math, and I know there's some games
Speaker 1: he missed and this and that, so you figure, you know,
Speaker 1: there's about seventy plays in the game time, sixteen games
Speaker 1: times fifteen years, that's almost seventeen thousand times.
Speaker 2: Lab you're getting hit in the face, I mean.
Speaker 3: Demon, he's getting hit in the face every play and
Speaker 3: he just he's done it for fifteen years.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 8: It is, it really is. And you talk about a
Speaker 8: guy that you know conditions himself for the game of football.
Speaker 8: I mean, his workouts are reportedly amazing. They're unbelievable. And
Speaker 8: you know the endurance that it takes to play football
Speaker 8: all that time, because you know, defensive lineman they're not running,
Speaker 8: but they are. They're pursuing plays, they're running all over
Speaker 8: the field. But to take that pounding, those number of
Speaker 8: steps all of those years, man, that's got to catch
Speaker 8: up with you. At some point.
Speaker 2: You would think you would think, well, well that listen,
Speaker 2: we got a run.
Speaker 1: But really really appreciate your time as always, have a
Speaker 1: great show tonight, and I'm sure we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 8: Thank you, lap appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks to say it all right, say it the one
Speaker 1: the only Dave leaven there you go, breaking it down.
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Speaker 1: Back with Rocky alongside Jason Williams for just a little
Speaker 1: bit longer, and Jason did want to check in with
Speaker 1: a good friend from ABC, Alex Stone, and Alex I
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of this, the helicopter crash in California.
Speaker 2: Tell us what's going on here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a crazy scene. What I'm well, So, Saturday
Speaker 4: afternoon on a really busy beach in Huntington Beach, who
Speaker 4: was crowded as it always is, crashed from a giant
Speaker 4: highad resort and they were getting ready for an event
Speaker 4: called the Cars and Copters, which was on Sunday. But
Speaker 4: on Saturday, all the choppers were flying in one owned
Speaker 4: by a guy who is reportedly known in the area
Speaker 4: for flying his helicopter doing acrobatic quick flybys the buildings
Speaker 4: in the area. He was landing and then the helicopter
Speaker 4: went out of control, began spinning, and then it went
Speaker 4: up and then it dropped down. And this guy says,
Speaker 4: couldn't believe what was going on. He was watching all
Speaker 4: of this, he was on the beach and this chopper
Speaker 4: coming down right on top of him.
Speaker 11: I thought it was like a movie's Sun Gone Fast,
Speaker 11: and then I realized that this was not a movie.
Speaker 11: This is real life, because we were actually witnessing all
Speaker 11: the other helicopters land safely, and when we just saw
Speaker 11: that helicopter loo control, everybody just turned around and ran
Speaker 11: in the opposite direction.
Speaker 4: So everybody was running and it got wedged between palm
Speaker 4: trees and the base of a bridge leading over to
Speaker 4: the high had Resort, and it just kind of wedged
Speaker 4: right in there and kept it from blowing apart. It
Speaker 4: didn't catch on fire. This was a belt two twenty two,
Speaker 4: which was made popular in the nineteen eighties by the
Speaker 4: TV show Airwolf, and the same type of chopper, but
Speaker 4: there were two people on board, three on the ground
Speaker 4: who were injured, including a little boy. And this was
Speaker 4: pretty incredible that the chopper came down right on top
Speaker 4: of him, but the way it wedged in between the
Speaker 4: palm trees and those stairs on the bridge, there was
Speaker 4: a gap of I don't know, maybe three feet, and
Speaker 4: he was laying in kind of a fetal position underneath
Speaker 4: of it as the chopper came down on top of him,
Speaker 4: and with the sound of what sounded like a jet engine,
Speaker 4: but the engine still going after the crash, and the
Speaker 4: red light blinking still on the chopper as they just
Speaker 4: crashed down. People went in. Bystanders went in and dragged
Speaker 4: him from underneath the chopper and got him out of there.
Speaker 4: And so, I mean, Chuck an amazing scene. But the
Speaker 4: NTSB and the FAA they're investigating, but they have given
Speaker 4: zero info because of the government shutdown. All we get
Speaker 4: is Auto replies saying because of the shutdown, they're not
Speaker 4: going to be providing information. So they are investigating. We
Speaker 4: just don't know a lot about it. But the pilot
Speaker 4: who owns the chopper reportedly as injuries. He's been in
Speaker 4: the hospital was over the weekend. But amazing scene and
Speaker 4: luckily nobody was killed in that little boy. I mean,
Speaker 4: you can imagine again like a movie, this thing's coming
Speaker 4: down on top of you. You brace for impact, and
Speaker 4: it stops a couple of feet above you because of
Speaker 4: the way it wedged into the trees and the stairs,
Speaker 4: and he was he's injured, but relatively safe underneath of
Speaker 4: the chopper.
Speaker 3: And Alex you're you're there in southern California and I
Speaker 3: was just there a few weeks ago for the Red's
Speaker 3: Dodgers series. It's not uncommon to see, you know, quite
Speaker 3: a few choppers up, up and around in that whole
Speaker 3: area too, right, And.
Speaker 4: I know yeah, I mean whether it be police or
Speaker 4: military or private shoppers. I mean you think of Co
Speaker 4: Bryant and and how he died here in the LA area,
Speaker 4: and that they're all over if you've got enough money,
Speaker 4: that is how because traffic is so bad here and
Speaker 4: it's such a huge, widespread area. Yeah, it can take
Speaker 4: you three hours, four hours at times to get from
Speaker 4: northern LA County down the southern LA County let alone,
Speaker 4: if you've got to go into Orange County or down
Speaker 4: to San Diego. So the way you get around, if
Speaker 4: you have the money or the means or the ability
Speaker 4: to own one, or your police or your military, you
Speaker 4: chop around. So there's just constantly helicopters in the air.
Speaker 4: But in this one, we don't know what went wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this guy owns this chopper. He's known for doing acrobatic
Speaker 4: kind of flybys and different things. And as he was
Speaker 4: coming in, it's say, you know, almost looked like an
Speaker 4: updraft or something where it got unstable and then began
Speaker 4: spinning and then the rot flew off the back. But
Speaker 4: the NTSB and FAA will figure that out. But it
Speaker 4: was right in front of such a big crowd and
Speaker 4: people went running to get away from it.
Speaker 1: What are the rules of airspace in LA given that
Speaker 1: there are so many helicopters, any idea?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it would be that they can fly
Speaker 4: where they want to fly up to a certain altitude.
Speaker 4: There's different classes of airspace Class B airspace and things
Speaker 4: around airports where they've either got to go below the
Speaker 4: pattern or around it. We run into that a lot
Speaker 4: with chases that go on, I mean every day here
Speaker 4: in LA. There's a couple of chases and they're all
Speaker 4: televised live wall the wall on every channel. And when
Speaker 4: the chase goes by one of the airports, all the
Speaker 4: TV news choppers have to figure out how they're gonna
Speaker 4: maneuver around Lax or Burbank Airport or John Wayne Airport
Speaker 4: or Ontario or Long Beach, all the commercial airports that
Speaker 4: are all pretty close together. So yeah, they've got to
Speaker 4: work around their different airspace. But but in that area,
Speaker 4: the choppers would be able to pretty much fly wherever
Speaker 4: they want to go.
Speaker 2: And now She said that the chopper was the kind
Speaker 2: like airwolfare the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on Airwolfs they modified the look of it a
Speaker 4: little bit, but this is a belt to twenty two,
Speaker 4: the same type of aircraft as al.
Speaker 2: It was a fantastic show back in the day, by
Speaker 2: the way, it was. It was good, very good. All right, Alexis,
Speaker 2: we got to run, but we really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: You gotta think I'll see it, Alex Stone, join us.
Speaker 3: You remember Airwolf I was hearing. I do not, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, how do I not remember that? It's like, uh,
Speaker 3: eighty four eighty five kind of back then there was
Speaker 3: three channels, one of those I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was uh and I read the story
Speaker 1: like the guy who was like the actor in it,
Speaker 1: A string fellow I believe was his, like his name
Speaker 1: in the show. But he was like a like one
Speaker 1: of those rising actors. Good looks like you know, the
Speaker 1: whole deal. But he was like a terrible alcoholic and
Speaker 1: just ruined his whole whole career in life.
Speaker 2: That looks pretty sweet, by the way.
Speaker 1: A helicopter and fire missiles and a awesome all right,
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Speaker 9: seventy five Ronald Reagan Highway to Norway Lateral still about
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