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Speaker 1: You know that the great Dave Lapham is fond of

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing which you alluded to in

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Speaker 1: your column about how I mean certainly offensively. Joe Flacco's

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Speaker 1: comes in, He's got about three days with the team.

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Speaker 1: First half looked like a guy that had been with

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Speaker 1: a team three days, right. Second half, things got together

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Speaker 1: and he performed very very well, which we'll get into defense.

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Speaker 2: Not so much.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, and it's the tale of the positive,

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Speaker 3: the good news and the bad news. So the good

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Speaker 3: I heard you talking with Willie there, and I've said

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Speaker 3: this in my calum dance and say dot com you

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Speaker 3: know that it takes time. It took you know, Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco needed some time. And that's I think clearly what

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Speaker 3: was happening there in the first half is I don't

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Speaker 3: think you could expect this guy to come in go

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Speaker 3: he's played green Bay already this season. That's a big

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Speaker 3: ask to step into a new team on the fly

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Speaker 3: Tuesday night, he gets here, you know, goes over the

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Speaker 3: playbook on his drive down with Zach Taylor, gets to

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Speaker 3: the facility late at night, and he's there till late

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Speaker 3: at night and in all week and it's like still

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Speaker 3: and then you you talked about it too, and Jamar

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Speaker 3: Chase said they only got twelve reps together. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is the best receiver in the game who got

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Speaker 3: sick and had to go home, and so all things told, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, the fact that they really turned it up

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Speaker 3: there after the halftime was really impressive. I think it

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Speaker 3: should give you u some hope that the Bengals are

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Speaker 3: going to win a few more games this season. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this season is done. This season was done the moment

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow went down, But that doesn't mean they can't

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Speaker 3: be competitive win a few games, and maybe they weren't

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Speaker 3: supposed to. Joe Flack a huge credit to the front

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Speaker 3: office for not just sitting on their hands, because I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, the thing everyone expected the Bengals to do

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Speaker 3: was just we'll just keep doing the same thing we

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Speaker 3: always do and keep a rolling with who we got.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that they made a move there, uh

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Speaker 3: and you know, bench Jake Browning and or I don't

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Speaker 3: know it was a benching. I guess you returned him

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Speaker 3: to the bench, right right, Yeah, And when I got

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco like that, that's a good thing. The bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Flacco, by the way, second half, so he was twenty

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Speaker 1: nine to forty five for the entire game, but the

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Speaker 1: second half twenty one of thirty one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was really really good.

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Speaker 3: And over what was his overall two hundred and nineteen yards, yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, two hundred nineteen yards passing, two touchdowns, no

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Speaker 3: interceptions combined, found T Higgins Jamar Chase for fifteen receptions.

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Speaker 3: That's I don't know how much more you could ask

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Speaker 1: Really good. And the main thing he did was any situation.

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Speaker 1: I always talk about football in the end of it

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Speaker 1: is kind of simple. You get the ball your best players,

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Speaker 1: and if you have better players than they do, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna win a lot more games if you make a

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Speaker 1: conscious effort to get your best players the ball and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't do.

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Speaker 2: That with Jake Brown.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a deficiency on him or

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Speaker 1: it was a game plan. I'm not quite sure on that,

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Speaker 1: but credit Joe Flacco has been around a long time.

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Speaker 2: He's wise.

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Speaker 1: He says, Look, I don't know all the ends outs

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna throw the ball at number one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the ball at number five, and I'm

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Speaker 1: he's always been really good at. Ye, he's good at

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Speaker 2: And he followed through it. He did.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, that that touchdown passed late in the game

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Speaker 3: was it. That looked like Joe. It looked like a

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow throw. It did, and the way Chase went

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Speaker 1: I said with Willie, I I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: And that's at the end of the day. Give Jamar

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Speaker 3: That's there's I mean, we've seen catches like that that

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Speaker 3: it in the Denver Was it the Denver game last year?

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Speaker 3: The ball that just Burrow? I think he just chucked

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Speaker 2: They won that game.

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Speaker 3: And then there's the other side of the coin rock.

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Speaker 3: The defense is now. I mean, I think everyone who

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Speaker 2: The defense isn't good. No, and and.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we've forgotten about it because, you know, because

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Speaker 1: Burrow brown interceptions in the first against some pretty poultry offense.

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Speaker 2: Does the defense looked pretty good.

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Speaker 3: They got takeaways, they did, They got some they got

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Speaker 3: some opportunistic takeaways. But I'll tell you Joe Flacco in

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Speaker 3: Game one in Cleveland, and uh, Trevor and Lawrence. They

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Speaker 3: diced up that defense pretty good. They just got overshadowed

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Speaker 3: by by the the takeaways, some of which were gimmes

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Speaker 3: ricochets off of the receiver's hands. But that's the game,

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Speaker 3: and what do you take it?

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Speaker 1: But you it did all the things happening with the

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Speaker 1: that and what's going on, it overshaded the reality of

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Speaker 1: this is a defense that was in the lower part

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Speaker 3: They're operating without their clearly best player, Trey Hendrickson, So

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Speaker 3: you can't really expect it's not you can go, wow,

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Speaker 2: Now during this four.

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Speaker 3: Game losing streak, that's been one hundred and fifty six yards,

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Speaker 3: and you know they get that touchdown to get within

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Speaker 3: wide open in crunch time. Yeah, yeah, he caught that

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Speaker 3: deep cross route, no one around him and for thirty

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Speaker 3: And then you go back to last week too, and

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Speaker 3: people will say these were garbage time touchdowns and ultimately

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Speaker 3: that's how it turned out. But the Bengals draw that

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Speaker 3: the Jamar and the Detroit just drove the ball right

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Speaker 3: no chance to come back.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, so with can you

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Speaker 1: If the defense can get some takeaways, all right, and

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Speaker 1: if the offense, with Joe Flacco getting even more experienced,

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Speaker 1: it done? Is there any possible chance, Jason, they can

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Speaker 2: Will you take it? You might said, yes? So is

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Speaker 2: that possible? In your opinion? Five and four at the buy?

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's possible with this defense, I think

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Speaker 3: I still think there's an adjustment period for Flacco. Flacco

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Speaker 3: almost really has to be the way he was yesterday

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Speaker 3: in the second half of the entire game. That's a

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Speaker 3: it feels like it's basically they're back to having to

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and now is to try to outscore teams.

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Speaker 3: So now you're asking a lesser quarterback to do that,

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Speaker 3: a better quarterback than Browning, but nowhere anywhere near Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: You're asking Joe Flacco to put up thirty a week. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly right. That's a tough ask. Tough ask.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, look, we will continue to break this down

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show. Dave Lapham of course,

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Speaker 2: But right now, let's go ahead and check some trafficking weather.

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Speaker 1: How we look a little bit of the coaching carousel

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Speaker 1: that is college football and and discuss on one hand,

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Speaker 1: it's it's crazy that these schools. I mean, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: James Franklin has a forty nine million dollars by it

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Speaker 1: and they just fired. They're gonna pay forty nine million

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Speaker 2: Mind boggling.

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Speaker 1: And what was promised was in this world of nil,

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Speaker 1: coaches weren't going to get fired as much because teams

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Speaker 2: We're celebrating Columbus Day today, well some are. I still

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Speaker 1: His goal obviously was to find the Western Sea route

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Speaker 2: Will celebrate him.

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Speaker 3: Your state capital is named after him, right, well, remember

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't, No, sure didn't. Nonetheless so much people

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Speaker 1: So James Franklin, the head coach of Penn State, over

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Speaker 3: And it's like and then I think it has just

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Speaker 3: comprehension to think where is that money coming from? And

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Speaker 3: how are you able to make that decision? But it's

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Speaker 3: just saying like, yeah, we can do that and be

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Speaker 3: financially viable. It shows you that the people that are upset,

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Speaker 3: the people that are upset enough where the AD takes

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Speaker 3: their call, it has to listen to them. They have

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Speaker 3: a lot of money and they're saying, hey, this isn't acceptable. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 3: and then it becomes this isn't acceptable. We're getting embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: And then it becomes this isn't acceptable. We're getting embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, me and five other guys will

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Speaker 1: pay the money to get rid of this problem and

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Speaker 1: restore confidence back in this program. But you're right, there's

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Speaker 1: no other industry where like this kind of heavy hitter

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Speaker 1: type money comes in and swoops in and pays a

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Speaker 1: guy to.

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Speaker 2: Do nothing right.

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Speaker 3: And you think about, you know, are some of our

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Speaker 3: major companies when they buy out a CEO, Right, You're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: so I'm saying like a Goldman Sachs or something, act like.

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Speaker 2: A major, major international player. Those are only a handful.

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Speaker 3: But you're looking at like you look at like all

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Speaker 3: these universities and colleges and the you know in Penn

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Speaker 3: State certainly is in the upper echelon of yeah there

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Speaker 3: would consider I'd consider them a blue blood right of

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Speaker 3: college football.

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Speaker 2: But this is just where does this stop?

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Speaker 3: Because this is going to keep happening to and then

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Speaker 3: just you throw on top of all the skewed finances

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Speaker 3: and reality world of money and college athletics. Then you're

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Speaker 3: throwing in il and you throw on the pressure of winning.

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Speaker 3: As we said three weeks ago, uh, you know, James

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Speaker 3: Franklin was number two in the country, number three in

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Speaker 3: the country. Uh, just a handful of months ago he

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Speaker 3: had won some playoff games, and now all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden Boom snapped the fingers.

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Speaker 2: You can give them forty.

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Speaker 3: Nine million dollars and so you know, you basically like

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Speaker 3: you lose two or three games in a row in

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Speaker 3: today's world, and we can make it because of the

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Speaker 3: NIL and the amount of money.

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Speaker 2: That will all just shoose you how much money some

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Speaker 2: people make.

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Speaker 1: The people that are that are close to these universities

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Speaker 1: and are alumni and care so much about what happens

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Speaker 1: with the football croud they make so much money they

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Speaker 1: can step in and do this. And I said this

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Speaker 1: earlier with Willie. What I've been told by ads and

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Speaker 1: football people is well, now because of nil and the

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Speaker 1: fact that team, the number one thing that moves these

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Speaker 1: recruits is the money.

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Speaker 2: Coaches will get a little bit longer lease.

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Speaker 1: They'll get a longer leash because in this case, a

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Speaker 1: Penn State or any team doesn't want to spend forty

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Speaker 1: nine million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars to buy out a coach.

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Speaker 1: They'd rather take that forty nine million and buy some

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Speaker 1: players with it over the next six years. That was

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Speaker 1: what was I've been told, That's what was kind of promised.

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Speaker 1: That's not what's happening, yeah at all. Like these coaches

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Speaker 1: have even a smaller lease argue then they use to

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Speaker 1: which again makes it all the more crazier how how

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Speaker 1: big the money comes in, and just kind of just

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Speaker 1: like that just kind of yeah, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: solves the problem and let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Luke Fickles buy out.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm looking at USA today, twenty seven

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Speaker 3: million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin don't have twenty seven million. You could argue to

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Speaker 2: pay him, or do they?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I would have said two weeks ago, I would have

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Speaker 1: said there's no way. But but now we're seeing all

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Speaker 1: these these guys getting released.

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Speaker 3: You say, maybe Mike Norvel down at Florida State, his

515
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Speaker 3: buyout is fifty eight million dollars. Thank you, Jimmy Sexton,

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Speaker 3: the super agent for college football coaches, at some point

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Speaker 3: that that's the thing that needs to happen. Like and

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Speaker 3: I guess it's a leverage thing. If you're a coach

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Speaker 3: in a top school, once you and you're the the

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Speaker 3: you're the top guy name out there, you kind of

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Speaker 3: call your own shots. But these these ads.

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Speaker 1: Should be hell responsible for given those kind of contracts

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Speaker 1: and just just.

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Speaker 2: Eating that amount of money. I don't envy.

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Speaker 3: I don't envy the athletic directors at all today's world too,

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Speaker 3: because it's like you're balancing all these things. How long

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Speaker 3: do you give a coach? I mean, look at Scott Sadderfield.

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Speaker 3: How long was John Cunningham sitting there saying how much

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Speaker 3: longer do I give this guy?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 3: Now they're five and one and you know, so it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: little patients. I know it's still there's still a lot

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Speaker 3: of season left, but all right, things seem to be

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Speaker 3: trending in the right now.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough gigs is one of the big money

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Speaker 1: guy called and said, listen, this is unaccepted.

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Speaker 2: When you better do this. It takes a strong person.

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Speaker 1: I nope, We're gonna hold out to stay the course,

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Speaker 1: but I think fewer and fewer ads have that.

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Speaker 2: All let's go and check some trafficking weather. How are

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Speaker 2: we looking?

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Speaker 9: When are you going to start coaching? That's what I

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Speaker 9: want exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean this place pays me, so nevermind.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, yes, you got coaches money here. Sure

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Speaker 9: from the youth he.

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Speaker 1: The four o'clock news, We're going to check on checking

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Speaker 1: in with our good friend Dan Snell he's a political expert,

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Speaker 1: and talk about you know, Trump and the hostage negotiations

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Speaker 1: and getting those twenty Israeli hostages back and good news

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Speaker 1: on the front and ask him what to do about

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Speaker 1: the government stoppage and what should happen with all that

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Speaker 1: was discussed some politics with Dan here at four o'clock,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to discuss real quick.

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Speaker 2: You know him, I know him. A lot of folks have.

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Speaker 1: You don't know him, you've at least heard him calling games.

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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Bearcat legend, passed away today, seventy two years old,

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Speaker 1: seventy two. I mean he was the leading receiver here

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Speaker 1: with the Bearcats seventy three to seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Early in life. He was a ball boy.

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Speaker 1: I mean he just, I mean literally was the personification

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Speaker 1: of UC athletics. And got a chance to talk with

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Speaker 1: him here and there over the years. Tremendous guy, I

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Speaker 1: said with Willie. I know his son, Dave Kelly very

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Speaker 1: very well. He was our spotter for my ESPN games

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Speaker 1: for three seasons. He was my play by play guy,

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Speaker 1: my play by play guy, Clay Maviick.

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Speaker 2: It was his spot er.

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Speaker 1: So I worked with Dave twenty games, A year for

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Speaker 1: three years, and you talk about like that's a hard gig.

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Speaker 1: So spotter, if you don't know, is someone who He's

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Speaker 1: the extra set of eyes in the booth. So if

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Speaker 1: you're you're looking at him to play with, like who

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Speaker 1: made the tackle? There was that number thirty two or

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Speaker 1: thirty three, I don't know. He's there to kind of

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Speaker 1: say point to the number. But he was more than

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Speaker 1: just the guy who pointed to who made the tackle.

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Speaker 1: He like had incredible football knowledge. And literally twice a

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Speaker 1: game I would talk to Dave, I'd say, take my

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Speaker 1: head set off and say what am I missing?

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Speaker 2: What do I not? And he'd be like, well, hey

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Speaker 2: remember this happening. Boom good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks anyway, So I know Dave more than I know Jim.

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Speaker 1: But the times I've talked to Jim, just a tremendous,

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Speaker 1: tremendous guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I loved him, loved him, loved listening to him. I

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Speaker 3: told him this. Yeah, a few years ago, I thought

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Speaker 3: I thought he was honestly like, he was a very

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Speaker 3: very good color analyst on football. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: very underrated. Yes, you know, do you see football all

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Speaker 3: those years in this town not being a big thing.

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Speaker 3: But he was there, and they had him on our

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Speaker 3: podcasts at the Inquirer a few years ago. It was

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Speaker 3: before the Notre Dame game, and at the moment they

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Speaker 3: won that game, the first thing I thought about was him,

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Speaker 3: because this is a guy who as a player, his

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Speaker 3: dad being an administrator and a coach there for so

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Speaker 3: many years, saw the worst of the worst. Was there

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Speaker 3: when they lost eighty one and nothing at Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Was there and all those times when almos should you

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Speaker 3: see drop football? Was there when people were making funny

603
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Speaker 3: you see when no one was coming to the games.

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Speaker 3: When I was a freshman in college, I remember at

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Speaker 3: UC like empty stadium and but gone at Jim Kelly

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Speaker 3: was there, yep, and believing and believing honest with honesty.

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Speaker 2: He gave everybody else some belief and a lot of folks.

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Speaker 3: True ambassador for the university, for the football program.

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Speaker 2: You'll be missed. He's the best.

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Speaker 3: And again thoughts to his family and we say god speed.

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Speaker 2: Did a great Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And with that the new seven hundred WLW alongside Jason Williams,

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Speaker 1: and we're tracking down our guest here, Dan Snell, to

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Speaker 1: discuss I'm pretty historic going on right with the ceasefire

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Speaker 1: that was negotiated by Trump and the the freeing of

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Speaker 1: what upwards of twenty hostages that have been in captivity

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Speaker 1: for two and a half years now. And I mean

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here in the in the studio and on

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Speaker 1: the TVs we're seeing some of these videos which are

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible of of you know, these folks getting reunited

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Speaker 1: with with their their families, which is a a great,

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Speaker 1: great thing to see in order to discuss this and

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Speaker 1: much much more.

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Speaker 2: We always enjoy talking with him.

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Speaker 1: He's our political export expert, the Winso Way, the Winso candidate.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited Dan that I stumbled over my words there.

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Speaker 1: But we're excited to talk to you, Dan Snell. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program.

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Speaker 2: How are you? Thank you, Rocky.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing great, good to be with you and Jason. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: There are probably sometimes that people want to export me,

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Speaker 7: in my opinions, they want to get me out of

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Speaker 7: the country. But I'm always happy to be with you.

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Speaker 7: And an exciting day in the world, isn't it today?

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Speaker 7: As you said, the hugs and the cheers and the

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Speaker 7: tears and the excitement of what took place there. Whatever

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Speaker 7: your viewpoint on politics, President Trump and the United States

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Speaker 7: having put this together should be should be cheered. And

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Speaker 7: we have our challenges, but this day is a good

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Speaker 7: day for Donald Trump and the United States and Israel

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Speaker 7: and the world.

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Speaker 1: So, Dan, I mean kind of encapsulate that I put

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Speaker 1: this into perspective for us. I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: two sides that have been at each other's throats like

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Speaker 1: since the beginning of time and there's now a ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: Just putting into perspective what the I guess the magnitude of.

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Speaker 7: This Yeah, yeah, Literally a biblical perspective is the history

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Speaker 7: of these two nations and the fight over there. And

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Speaker 7: if Donald Trump can bring it together and keep it together.

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Speaker 7: I think the key is keeping things together to get

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Speaker 7: both sides. Certainly, there's going to be moments, right There's

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Speaker 7: going to be people are going to be agitated over

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Speaker 7: this or that and disagreement. But if we can keep

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Speaker 7: it together, it is a breakthrough. And especially if they

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Speaker 7: can find a pathway to get Gaza redeveloped in a

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Speaker 7: way that allows some people to come home, it's going

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Speaker 7: to be It is a giant thing for the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, this is a bigger, broader question, you know,

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Speaker 3: we tend to want to get in the weed about

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump here in America, but on the global scale,

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Speaker 3: this is just an incredible, incredible feat. And this is

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Speaker 3: something that you know, fifty years from now in the

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Speaker 3: history books they'll be talking about Donald Trump as a

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Speaker 3: peacemaker in the Middle East and where does all that

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Speaker 3: come from from him? And how in the heck has

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Speaker 3: he been able to do that?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, he has a strong personality and he

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Speaker 7: can pick up the phone as the most powerful man

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Speaker 7: in the world, pick up the phone and try to

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Speaker 7: talk to people, encourage people. And I think that he

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Speaker 7: probably laid down the law with Israel with regards to

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Speaker 7: some of the things that they were doing that were

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Speaker 7: causing upset in the Middle East and even here in America.

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Speaker 7: And yet he also for Hamas said you know, no Moss, Hamas,

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Speaker 7: no Moss, do not do what you're doing anymore, or

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Speaker 7: it will You'll be obliterated. So he has the strength

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Speaker 7: of character and personality to do that. And long long term, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm old enough to remember that for a long time,

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Speaker 7: Jimmy Carter was considered the peacemaker and he had the

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Speaker 7: piece accords at the White House, and so Trump has

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Speaker 7: an opportunity and next year, yes, at this stage he

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Speaker 7: probably will win the Nobel Peace Prize, and so things

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Speaker 7: will be calmer in the world and hopefully in the

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Speaker 7: United States. We can carry that over into these budget

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Speaker 7: these budget hearings, maybe we can get some negotiations and

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Speaker 7: communication improved there.

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Speaker 1: Now, Now, Dan, you said earlier, the big question is, yes,

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Speaker 1: how long does this last? My opinion and thought is,

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Speaker 1: of course from the Israelis point of view, it'll continue

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Speaker 1: forever and unless they are bombed or fired upon. Right,

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Speaker 1: so they're perfectly happy with just not messing with Amas

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Speaker 1: and you guys go stay over there, We'll stay over here.

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Speaker 1: But so it really comes down to Palestine and Hamas, Right,

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Speaker 1: do you think that they will What is their incentive,

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Speaker 1: whether by force or otherwise, what is their incentive to

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Speaker 1: keep this peace deal?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, and they may feel like they want to

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Speaker 7: keep peace, but there are players. There is evil in

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Speaker 7: the world. Then it come might be outside of Hamas

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Speaker 7: and the Palestinians, and it could be someone from US,

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Speaker 7: you know, Iran Led or someone that's a terrorist group

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Speaker 7: that has nothing to do with those, but yet who

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Speaker 7: will get blamed is Hamas and the Palestinians, and so

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Speaker 7: Israel excellent in their intelligence in the world, as the

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Speaker 7: United States is.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good too.

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Speaker 7: We need to just make sure that we don't blame

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Speaker 7: be quick to blame one side or the other. But

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Speaker 7: my you know, I think the world's prayers that we

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Speaker 7: can have this finally be at peace.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you referenced it earlier.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fighting in some form or fashion in the

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Speaker 3: Middle East has been going on since the biblical times.

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Speaker 3: So what role now does Donald Trump play? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, you go in there and you broke her

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Speaker 3: this deal. What role does he in America play in

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Speaker 3: now for this to be able to sustain and continue on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know they've organized a group that's going

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Speaker 7: to manage the process or control and Donald Trump is

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Speaker 7: going to be the chairman of that. And of course,

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Speaker 7: I say with a smile. As a developer, he's always

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Speaker 7: got to twinkle in his eye because he sees that

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Speaker 7: that opportunity that something could be developed there, and I'm

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Speaker 7: sure part of him thinks, oh, maybe his family could

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Speaker 7: be a part of that development. And they do a

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Speaker 7: good job in development, so that's possible. And if it

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Speaker 7: would help bring that to a quicker resolution of redevelopment,

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Speaker 7: then maybe that's the way to do it. But the

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Speaker 7: United States has to have this calm, steady, firm hand

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Speaker 7: addressing all sides to keep this so it doesn't blow

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Speaker 7: up again.

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Speaker 1: Well, to your point, it's going to take someone that

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Speaker 1: is as strong as Donald Trump, if it's not himself,

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Speaker 1: you know, his predecessor, someone who is strong and respected

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Speaker 1: and dare I say feared in order for this to

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Speaker 1: because as soon as someone you know, God forbid, steps

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Speaker 1: back in the White House who's a weak person a

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Speaker 1: week leader, all this stuff just ramps back up.

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Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's essentially what we've got to

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Speaker 2: hope for.

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Speaker 1: Here, Dan snows our guests here, Now, Dan, let's turn

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Speaker 1: back here to UH to the United States, and there's

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Speaker 1: a government shutdown going on. So after Trump has negotiated

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Speaker 1: this peace deal uh here in in in Gaza with Israel,

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Speaker 1: what what what are some of the things he should

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Speaker 1: focus on here in the unit in the United States

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Speaker 1: in terms of getting the government shut down back on

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Speaker 1: negotiating with the other side.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it?

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Speaker 7: You know, certainly, if I'm Donald Trump, I come home

751
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Speaker 7: and I say gush, if I can broke her peace

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Speaker 7: in the most long standing battle of the I can.

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Speaker 7: I can certainly bring people into my office and and

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Speaker 7: broker and negotiate, and you know, is not a dirty where,

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Speaker 7: It's not a four letter word. And I think that

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Speaker 7: what the first thing has to do is we need

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Speaker 7: to just get the president or someone to say, let's

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Speaker 7: sit around the table and let's not leave this table

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Speaker 7: until we have a compromise to get things opened up.

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Speaker 7: And the Democrats are probably asking for a little bit

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Speaker 7: too much. And I think that Mike Johnson, I think

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Speaker 7: some of the words that are being used to constantly

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Speaker 7: blame both sides, blame each other.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't do any good.

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Speaker 7: Just get everybody in the room and President Trump. He's

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Speaker 7: got momentum, right Moe is wearing red. And if momentum

767
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Speaker 7: can he can carry that into these negotiations, then I

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Speaker 7: think that would be another win. So he's got a

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Speaker 7: win abroad, and he could have a win at home

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Speaker 7: if he would be the top negotiator in his office

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Speaker 7: or somewhere of this budget shutdown.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, Dan that the momentum is

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Speaker 3: wearing red right now, because I think everyday Americans, I mean,

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Speaker 3: are you near feeling this or you have you even

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Speaker 3: really thought is it have package your life? And so

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Speaker 3: to me that that hands it to the majority party

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Speaker 3: politically right, And I think the Democrats are sitting here

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Speaker 3: thinking they can maybe make political hay out of this

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Speaker 3: as you turn the corner into and then you know,

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Speaker 3: in the next year's election year. But I don't see

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Speaker 3: that happening. How about but you're the expert on the stand,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of that?

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Speaker 7: Well, some people might export me for this, but again,

784
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Speaker 7: but for the studies are the polls show that seventy

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Speaker 7: percent of Americans do believe that specifically on the case

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Speaker 7: of helping those that are on the government healthcare Obamacare,

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Speaker 7: if you want to call it that, because I know

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Speaker 7: people personally, a couple of friends of mine and my

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Speaker 7: daughter is self employed that she is on that program

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Speaker 7: and her race with what now that's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: The reason they have to address just that right now

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Speaker 7: is because if they don't address it now and they

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Speaker 7: wait for weeks to figure that out, then the rates

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Speaker 7: will go up. So they have to make a commitment

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Speaker 7: that they're going to stand with the support to not

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Speaker 7: increase that now that's the only thing the Democrats should

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Speaker 7: ask for, and forget all this other things they're asking for,

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Speaker 7: but just take care of the seventy percent of Americans

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Speaker 7: do say, hey, we think on healthcare we need to

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Speaker 7: those subsidies need to stay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But do the majority of Americans think that Americans

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Speaker 1: and to say taxpayers should be paying for health care

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Speaker 1: for illegal aliens, The polls I've seen say they do not.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a separate issue too, The illegal aliens issue,

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Speaker 7: separate from the subsidies for those Americans who are buying

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Speaker 7: healthcare through the portals now through the healthcare dot gov

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Speaker 7: for instance, somebody that might be paying three hundred and

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Speaker 7: sixty dollars a month now it could go up to

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Speaker 7: six hundred seven hundred dollars if that's substantie isn't remain

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Speaker 7: That's separate. That's from healthcare for your neighbors and my neighbors.

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Speaker 7: And probably fifteen percent of the listeners that we have

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Speaker 7: here today could be on that and so the other

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Speaker 7: items with regards to illegal aliens getting any type of

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Speaker 7: extended healthcare. No, I don't think anybody you're right, No

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Speaker 7: one agrees that that should take place now emergency room issue.

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Speaker 7: Ronald Reagan my hero, you know right about him. In

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Speaker 7: the Wins of Candidate Ronald Reagan says, we won't deny

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Speaker 7: somebody bleeding in an emergency room, but then then they

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Speaker 7: have to leave after we've gotten them stabilized. That's one thing.

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Speaker 7: But this extended care and some of the other things

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Speaker 7: for different types of citizens, we need to look at that.

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Speaker 7: But first, let's just take care of the the Jimmy

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Speaker 7: Jones and Sally Smith that are on healthcare dot gov.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, dance now listen. We really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: The wins some way, the wins some candidate folks want

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Speaker 1: to find out more about.

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Speaker 2: You and what you have going on.

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Speaker 1: And I know you got a lot going on, Dan,

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Speaker 1: So tell folks how they can get more in touch

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Speaker 1: with you and what you have coming down the pipe.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 7: Sure, well. The books are available on Amazon or Barnes

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Speaker 7: and Noble wherever they can go to the win some candidate,

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Speaker 7: they wins candidate dot com. Learn a little bit about

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Speaker 7: me and my beliefs for a fresher positive start for America.

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Speaker 7: And I'm working on something maybe we've talked about down

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Speaker 7: the road. There are probably seventy three percent of your

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Speaker 7: listeners or either a single parent or have gone through

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Speaker 7: divorce or in a blended family step family. I'm working

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Speaker 7: on a national program for that that will really impact

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Speaker 7: hearts in a positive way. So that's for another day.

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Speaker 7: It's always good to be with WLW. You know, win

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Speaker 7: some starts with WWLW. You got lots of w's there.

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Speaker 7: I can never go wrong being with you, Rocky and Jason,

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Speaker 7: and say hi to Eddie, say hi to Cambreu. And

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Speaker 7: great to be with.

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Speaker 1: You guys man, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Okay them, Yep, you got thanks Dan, Dan Snello. He's right.

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Speaker 1: He breaks things down in a pretty easily understandable way.

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Speaker 2: With those stuff he does. Let's go and check some

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Speaker 2: trafficking weather.

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Speaker 1: How are we looking, Jason Williams and Jason, you have

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Speaker 1: a Mark Sanchez sort of kind of updated.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the mother of his eight year old son has

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Speaker 3: taken to Instagram and Mark Sanchez of course.

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Speaker 2: Uh incident he was with he's with what Fox.

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Speaker 3: He was getting ready to call the game and uh

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Speaker 3: got stabbed, got into an incident with someone on the

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Speaker 3: street at the hotel and just was released. Uh we

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Speaker 3: just I saw a video of the local TV station

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Speaker 3: just recently. But she has Aaron her name is She

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Speaker 3: is a a UK supermodel. Aaron Campanias took to social

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Speaker 3: medium basically like said that she's isn't surprised by this

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Speaker 3: with Mark Sanchez and that I am aware of the

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Speaker 3: serious criminal charges currently facing my son's father, Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 3: My first, my foremost priority has always been and remains

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Speaker 3: our eight year old son Daniel. I chose to remain

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Speaker 3: silent publicly to protect him. Not everything is out in

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Speaker 3: the open. My focus hasn't changed. I've always been concerned

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Speaker 3: for his safety and for what he is exposed to. Sadly,

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Speaker 3: none of this is surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've heard a lot of people

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Speaker 1: talk about recently he has you know, he has trouble

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Speaker 1: with alcohol and you know that that sort of thing

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Speaker 1: which was a factor and the last thing, no matter

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Speaker 1: what exactly the circumstances are, so yeah, I just can't.

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Speaker 1: It can't be at his age, you know, two days

878
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: before a game, out at twelve thirty at night, like

879
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: like what are you doing?

880
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Like like go.

881
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Home at thirty eight years old, thirty eight years old,

882
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: go back to hotel, get a good night's sleep and

883
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: and do your job. So I didn't realize this, but

884
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: reading the story of him and his wife for expecting

885
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: twins right now, yeah, that's not good. All right now,

886
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: we will take a break. We'll come back. We have

887
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: more seven hundred Wow.

888
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: Five o'clock news, the one the only Dave Lapper voice up. Bengals,

889
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Gonna break it all down for us and maybe preview

890
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game. Big Thursday night game. Jason in store,

891
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers huge, Sorry Bengals heavy warp every team you mentioned,

892
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's your that's right. Until then, Jason, what

893
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: was the the longest you've ran in one?

894
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: Thirteen miles? Was my p I ran cross believe it

895
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: or not, Rock I ran cross country in high school.

896
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

897
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: I did just kidding, it was all It was only

898
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: to get ready for basketball.

899
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: So is that officially half marathon? Thirteen months? That would

900
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: have been?

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: That was like my PR We had a PR day

902
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: every year, And that was the most I ever did

903
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: in one run.

904
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: Well, you got me be because honestly, the most I've

905
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: ever run in one instance is probably about five miles.

906
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: That's good. I was a Saint accent.

907
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: Tracks we ran, you know, I you know, down North

908
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: Bend Road there and you know, all the way and

909
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: then you know, back up the hill, back up the hill.

910
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: The whole thing was a grind. Yeah, but no, I've

911
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: never been a good at distance guy. I've you know,

912
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: in sprint, never been a good distance guy. But uh,

913
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: by the way, if you have ran a significant amount

914
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: of distance in one sitting, call the show five one, three, seven, four, nine,

915
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: seven thousand, because I'm about to tell you about history

916
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: being made Jason. In the world of ultra marathoning. These

917
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: are sounds like a blast marathons that are like over

918
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: two hundred miles and like okay, and this this guy

919
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: named Killian Course, Okay, and he just won the Moab

920
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: to forty Okay, which, as the name states, is a

921
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty mile.

922
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: Run to a forty mile run.

923
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Holy yes, And the he did two hundred forty

924
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: miles in two days, three hours, in twenty eight minutes.

925
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Speaker 2: That's the amount of time he was running.

926
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Now, he during the course of those two days he

927
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: stopped for a grand total of seven hours and twelve minutes.

928
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: But but but running, he was running for a grand.

929
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: Total of a course of two two plus days, two days,

930
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: three hours, twenty eight minutes. Okay, now he has actually

931
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: won the triple crown of Ultra marathoning.

932
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, he won the why why why? Uh See?

933
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: He ran the Tahoe two hundred durance race in fifty

934
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: two hours, forty minutes and fifty two seconds. He ran

935
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the Big Foot two hundred endurance race that's about two

936
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: hundred and eight miles, has an elevation game of of

937
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: forty five thousand feet, did that in forty five hours,

938
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: three minutes, forty one seconds, and he only won that

939
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: race by forty two minutes. And then he lastly won

940
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: the Moab two forty So that's a grand total of

941
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: four hundred and eight point one miles, grabbing the the

942
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: triple crown.

943
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: So, and we have called, and you have answered, Let's

944
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: go to the phones.

945
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Let's go to Connie in the great area of town

946
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Cleaves where I used to live. And now, Connie, you

947
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: are an ultra marathon or is that correct?

948
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: I am in on the west side and there are

949
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 5: actually many ultrarunners in Cincinnati.

950
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Really, so there's like a whole like, yes, group of

951
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys you guys that are crazy insane.

952
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 5: Yes, And the crazy thing is it starts to become

953
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: normal when you hang around in a group like this,

954
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: and it's actually not normal.

955
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: No, it's not normal at all. So how did you

956
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: find out? How did you like run cross country?

957
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 5: So?

958
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: How did you find out you wanted to run one

959
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: hundred plus miles at a time kind of thing?

960
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 5: Which I actually have and it's a painful sport. But

961
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 5: I think most people around here would say that they

962
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 5: started doing, you know, road marathons, and then started hearing

963
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: about this trail running and then you just kind of

964
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 5: get sucked into it.

965
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: Is what happens.

966
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: It show sounds like addicting, almost like you're just well,

967
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: it's it, yeah, energy, you know runners, high runners high yeah, adrelline.

968
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 5: Run well yeah sort of. So then you're like, okay,

969
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 5: twenty six point two, and then you're like, oh a

970
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: fifty k well that's thirty one, and then oh a

971
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 5: fifty miler and then wait a minute, one hundred miler

972
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: and then it gets really crazy. I mean, do you

973
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 5: guys know there's like three hundred milers now.

974
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well it's like the one of the

975
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: two forty was it the MOAB two forty Yeah, yep,

976
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: So that's that's like running from Cincinnati to Cleveland. Cleveland's

977
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty nine miles from Cincinnati. It's almost

978
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: as space.

979
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: Right, So there's that triple crown of two hundreds which

980
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 5: you just mentioned, but then this monster came along last year,

981
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: which is three hundred and the interest. The thing that

982
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 5: people don't know about it maybe is it's very expensive

983
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 5: to do something like that.

984
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: So explain that.

985
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: Do you have like a team of people that meet

986
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: you and give you water while you're running or sandwich

987
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: or how's that work?

988
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 5: So crewe and pacers. So crewe are people like you know,

989
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 5: for Rocky, maybe your friend Jonathan or something would come

990
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: and be with you at these aid stations and help

991
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: you out. But then a pacer is someone who would

992
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: actually be with you on the course, doing it with you,

993
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 5: keeping you company overnight so that you don't fall asleep

994
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff off.

995
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: So wait, what wouldn't it be the other way around then?

996
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: Like or is is a pac or something with that

997
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: is the pacer running or is it or on a bike?

998
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 5: No, the pacer is run like for this Moab two

999
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 5: forty the pacer is with the runner for probably the

1000
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 5: last one hundred miles. Let's say they're allowed to jump.

1001
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 7: In and pace.

1002
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: Oh so they're not with you the entire time.

1003
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 5: No, it's usually like halfway through us I can jump

1004
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 5: in and be with you.

1005
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like multiple pacers come right, and their job

1006
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: is to run at a whatever the standard is for

1007
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: a shorter amount of time, right, and keep you up

1008
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: to that, and then maybe another one comes in right, yes, or.

1009
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: If you're a good runner, like you know, there's a

1010
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 5: lot of good Cincinnati runners, maybe they jump in with

1011
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: you for a whole fifty miles or one hundred miles

1012
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: or something like that. It just depends.

1013
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: Now, explain to us conne if you can, like, like

1014
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: just from a biological standpoint, like what happens to your

1015
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: body from experience as you're running, is I mean your knees,

1016
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: your hips, your ankle, is your feet, Like, tell me

1017
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: all the things.

1018
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: That go on there.

1019
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: I actually just did this yesterday in Indiana, and it's

1020
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: all fun and games at one hundred let's say, until

1021
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 5: the last thirty miles and then you just kind of

1022
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 5: get a little tired of the whole thing. But what

1023
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 5: people don't talk about too is the recovery from it

1024
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: that takes a few days.

1025
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: I imagine what's the part of your body that takes

1026
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: the most damage?

1027
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 5: Though it sort of depends on what the weather is

1028
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 5: maybe that day, you know, is it muddy as heck?

1029
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: Is it dry?

1030
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 5: But a lot of times it's your feet, especially if

1031
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 5: it's raining. You really got to try to You're trying

1032
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 5: to put out a lot of fires. You know, if

1033
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 5: you're running for thirty hours, let's say on one hundred miler,

1034
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 5: you're putting out a lot of fires.

1035
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: So are there rules about you know, you can stop

1036
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: and take because you're talking about the mo ab to

1037
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: forty and I know that's not a hundred, Like that's

1038
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: double that?

1039
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Are you ab is like five days?

1040
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1041
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: So are you you're allowed to stop or like what

1042
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: are the rules around that?

1043
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: I assume there's rules around that, Right You're allowed to

1044
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: stop for only X amount of time at X amount

1045
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: of points?

1046
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: Or is it just you can do your own.

1047
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 5: Pace at a race like that? There are actually sleep stations, okay,

1048
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 5: where you know they have all this great food for

1049
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: you that they cook, but you can actually take a

1050
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 5: nap for you know, whatever three hours, but in one

1051
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 5: hundred mile or let's say, if you're a slower runner,

1052
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: you don't have time to take a nap. You're running

1053
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 5: from like six in the morning to say noon in

1054
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: the next day, which is can be a long way

1055
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 5: long time.

1056
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: So you have done one hundred miles, so you've run

1057
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: for what over twenty four hours?

1058
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 5: Well, I have, but again there are a lot of

1059
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: people way better than me in Cincinnati. But you just

1060
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 5: you know, I guess we all just kind of have

1061
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 5: a passion for it, really, which is.

1062
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 7: What you need.

1063
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: Kind This is great radio.

1064
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: No, I much respect to you because that's something I

1065
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: feel like I can. There's a lot of things I

1066
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: can and will do that will never be one of them.

1067
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: I could never approach it. I have the utmost respect

1068
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: for anybody that can.

1069
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: To me, it's not the physical side would would be

1070
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: absolutely growing, but mentally to do that and keep your

1071
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: mind clear, and that would be the thing I think

1072
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: that would attack a lot of people.

1073
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: Yes, well, but obviously you were in the NFL, so

1074
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 5: you know about the mental Come on now.

1075
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at games three and a half hours, not

1076
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: three days.

1077
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: Say, I'm in daily journalism, I know about the mental

1078
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, well look.

1079
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 5: I respect both of you. I love the show. I

1080
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 5: listen every day, and ultra running is a crazy thing,

1081
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 5: but it's just it's a hobby like anything else, and

1082
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: everybody has different hobbies.

1083
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Well, Connie, listen.

1084
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you calling and sharing your story with us,

1085
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: and God bless you that that is truly true, very

1086
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: very cool.

1087
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: Thank you you both.

1088
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: You both take care bright.

1089
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: Thank you Connie. That was awesome. That was great.

1090
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: I know.

1091
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: I love what Connie back for the next time they

1092
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: do big ye.

1093
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: Run or yeah Connie, next whatever, the next ultra marathon

1094
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: race coming up is call the show in a couple

1095
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: of days a week before we'll talk.

1096
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: To you about and the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: We could have kept her because I had more question

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Speaker 1: like well here, here, let's go to Cincinnati and talk

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Speaker 1: to John. John, there's someone you know that was a

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Speaker 1: like a distance runner Ultra Marathon.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know her personally, but she taught my daughter

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Speaker 6: how to swim at the Blue Ash Why and I

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Speaker 6: think that's about thirteen miles to downtown and she and

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Speaker 6: he and they lived a little bit further out than

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Speaker 6: that even but she would run with her girlfriend to

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Speaker 6: the marathon, run the whole marathon, twenty six miles whatever,

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Speaker 6: and then run back.

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Speaker 2: Run back home.

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Speaker 6: I was like, fifty two fifty two plus miles.

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Speaker 4: Wow, she was a little thing.

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Speaker 6: She was as probably as close to anarexic other than

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Speaker 6: being anorexic.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean she she was so skinny. Couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 6: She's probably in her twenties, you know, firefoot maybe, I

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Speaker 6: mean she's well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and John, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You can't be a big gallery guy and run a marathon,

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Speaker 1: especially in ultra marathon.

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Speaker 2: I thought my little cross country runs were her feet.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling a dad this. He coaches with me

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Speaker 3: and his younger son runs a cross country I was like, yeah,

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: those are a lot of cross country meets are a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun. And I said this when I was

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Speaker 3: a kid growing up, I loved everything about cross country

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Speaker 3: except the running.

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Speaker 2: The meats are black.

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Speaker 10: See.

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Speaker 1: But to me, I have a vivid memory of being

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Speaker 1: at football practice at st. Ex High School and being

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Speaker 1: out there and seeing the cross country runners and you

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Speaker 1: see one, and then you know, you have like forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes of practice and you see the guy again.

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Speaker 2: And I always thought to him.

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Speaker 1: I always had the utmost respect for those guys because

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Speaker 1: I could never do it, and I thought to myself

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00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: the bigger challenges in football. There's different stuff you work on,

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Speaker 1: like like on Wednesday you work on first and ten

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: and then you work on red zone and at cross

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Speaker 1: country practice show all yeah, and the coach says, guess what.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do today.

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Speaker 1: Guys, We're gonna guess what we're doing tomorrow, run and

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Speaker 1: then the next day run yeah.

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Speaker 2: So again, just.

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Speaker 1: Every single day, that's what you're doing. Mad respect, Mad respect.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and check some All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to News Radio seven hundred WL. You're rocking

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Speaker 1: alongside Jason Williams. Coming up after the top of the

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Speaker 1: hour news lap, we'll join us to break it all

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Speaker 1: down the Bengals game yesterday. We got about a minute here, Jason.

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Speaker 1: There's been some breaking news involved in Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Justin thanks for our news guy Jack Cromley for popping

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Speaker 3: in learning this to this is that the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: owners Jimmy and d Haslam, have reached a one hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars settlement with the city of Cleveland to officially

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Speaker 3: move the team from Cleveland out to the suburbs brook

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Speaker 3: Park by the airport there in Cleveland. Yeah, they've already

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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: cleared so many other hurdles, but this was one where,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of little bureaucratic things, a

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Speaker 3: silly Modell wall that says you couldn't move a team

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Speaker 3: after Art Modell moved the team to Baltimore, and even

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Speaker 3: you couldn't move a team from you know, a city

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Speaker 3: out to even the same region in a suburb. I

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Speaker 3: knew that was really a nothing burger. But ultimately the

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Speaker 3: Haslms have agreed over three decades to pay one hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars. The first payment will become this December of

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Speaker 3: twenty five million, and that is to tear down the

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Speaker 3: current stadium and redevelop that area where the stadium is

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Speaker 3: right now on the lake front there Cleveland. So it'll

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Speaker 3: pay one hundred million dollars hundred million dollars just to

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Speaker 3: be able to move the stadium, just to be able

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Speaker 3: to move to their suburban two point four billion billion

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Speaker 3: dollars stadium covered stadium out by Cleveland Hopkins International Airport,

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Speaker 3: brook Park, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: How we looking, I don't know exactly where that is But.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you if you're if you're looking, if

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Speaker 3: you're on seventy one going north, you know you're looking

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Speaker 3: at fifteen twenty minutes out of downtown, still in Cuyahoga County.

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Speaker 2: It's just right there.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's still the it's still Greater Cleveland area. It's

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Speaker 3: just a bigger suburban area where you can big, big

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Speaker 3: lots of acreage to build township like Liberty Township.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You'll get some more updates on that

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00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: as the days go on. But right now, the news

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW right at the gate at three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be a Monday if we didn't check

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Speaker 1: in with our next guest, the one, the only, the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Bengals, Dave Lap, him and get his

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Speaker 1: opinion on what transpired yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Lap.

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Speaker 8: How are you, guys? How the heck you doing today?

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Speaker 8: Having a good day? I hope.

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Speaker 2: To hear you good one, Lap.

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Speaker 1: Now, I've I listened to you, listen to you a

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Speaker 1: lot over the year's Lap, and you're often fond of

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Speaker 1: talking about a tale of two halves, right, and that

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Speaker 1: game yesterday, Lap was the personification of a tail of

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Speaker 1: two halves from I mean, it'side the offense. The defense

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Speaker 1: was pretty good, first half, offense not good, and then

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Speaker 1: they switched. But either way it ended in the result

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Speaker 1: it did, which was a Bengals fourth straight loss.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, four straight losses. That that's a butt kicker, no

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Speaker 8: question about that. I don't think the football team expected

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Speaker 8: to go on a four game losing streak at this

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Speaker 8: stage of the season. There's no doubt about that. And

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Speaker 8: what the biggest problem is, like you say, it's it's

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Speaker 8: non complimentary football. You know, they're just not playing a

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Speaker 8: complete game. One side of the football is not supporting

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Speaker 8: the other. When one side struggles, the other is not

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Speaker 8: there to lift them, and uh and vice versas. So

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Speaker 8: until they get that figured out, until they start playing

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Speaker 8: a complete football game and on a series by serious

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Speaker 8: snap by snap basis, they're gonna be in trouble.

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Speaker 2: And now Lapp I thought, and I'm sure you did too.

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Speaker 1: Flaco played great as he got, you know, more comfortable

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Speaker 1: in a very short quick amount of time. Was pedestrian

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Speaker 1: the first half, which is understandable because of a short

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Speaker 1: amount of time with a team. Second half, he was

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Speaker 1: great twenty one to thirty and seventy nine yards, two tds,

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Speaker 1: no interceptions.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you this though, Lap, What's what's

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Speaker 3: your experience as alignman playing with different quarterbacks, Like one

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Speaker 3: one week you're playing with this guy, next week you're

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Speaker 3: playing with that guy. Is there a difference in how

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Speaker 3: the line plays or their mentality?

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Speaker 8: That's good question, Rock. I mean, it's I have done that,

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Speaker 8: and you know Kenny Anderson and Perk showing it. This

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Speaker 8: was the first situation that I experienced that way, and

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Speaker 8: it is it's different. There's an adjustment. There's an adjustment

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Speaker 8: for the offensive line. There's an adjustment for the quarterback

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Speaker 8: playing with that offensive line. You know, the cadence that

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Speaker 8: the quarterback has is different. His his voice is different,

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Speaker 8: the emphasis on whatever part of the cadence is different.

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Speaker 8: And there's there's pauses, you know, different pauses in the

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Speaker 8: cadence that that you know, make it it sound different.

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Speaker 8: So it's it's not as easy as people think. It's

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Speaker 8: not just roll out of bed and go play quarter

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Speaker 8: Go play as an offensive line in front of a

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Speaker 8: quarterback that you never played with before, and it's it's

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Speaker 8: the timing of the fluidity is just out there. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's not it's not as smooth that as it should be.

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Speaker 8: And I thought, like you that boy once once Joe

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Speaker 8: Flacco got his sea legs under him. Uh, he played

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Speaker 8: very well, and I thought, you know, he gave them

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Speaker 8: a chance to win, honestly in the second half in particular,

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Speaker 8: and uh, you know, defense, special teams, the other two

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Speaker 8: phases just didn't step up enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I laugh.

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Speaker 3: I think there's i know, in the middle of a

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Speaker 3: four game losing streak, but just looking at Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: and the front office going out and getting him and

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Speaker 3: then what he did there in the second half, obviously

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Speaker 3: making that adjustment fifteen completions to the two big stars,

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Speaker 3: Chase and Higgins, the guy he can find those guys

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Speaker 3: didn't do the interception. There's a lot I think can

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Speaker 3: be taken from this with Joe Flacco moving forward, especially

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Speaker 3: here in a short week as they turn around, they're

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Speaker 3: going to come home for three games. There's a silver

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Speaker 3: lying there right with him, and that there's hope for

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Speaker 3: this offense to kind of get back going. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: at the level of Joe Burrow, but certainly, you know,

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Speaker 3: get it going and it could be solid.

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Speaker 8: I agree Jase, there's no question that it could be solid,

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Speaker 8: you know, and you look at it. He had no turnovers,

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Speaker 8: didn't throw an interception, didn't didn't lose the football, didn't

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Speaker 8: fumble it. Neither did any of his teammates in the

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Speaker 8: running back positioning tight end or a wide receiver spot.

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Speaker 8: But you know, that's that's uh that's that's pretty good.

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Speaker 8: That's that's pretty good ball. And you know, not taking

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Speaker 8: a quarterback sack as big, you know, you don't. You

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Speaker 8: don't put yourself in a uh in you know, down

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Speaker 8: on distance problem, and that's good for the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 8: or play caller and everybody involved there as well. So

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Speaker 8: I think that uh, I thought he played again well

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Speaker 8: enough to win. I thought he played winning football, particularly

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Speaker 8: in the second half. And I just don't think that

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Speaker 8: the other phases UH were were up to the task.

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Speaker 8: I mean, inconsistency is uh is their biggest problem. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's kind of their their calling card so far this season,

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Speaker 8: you know, I mean, they they just have not on

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Speaker 8: a on a quarter by quarter basis, half by half basis,

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Speaker 8: even series by series basis giving you the same type

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Speaker 8: of performance well.

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Speaker 1: Well to your point lap. I mean, so going to

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Speaker 1: halftime as ten to nothing Packers. Bengals get the ball

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Speaker 1: coming out of the third quarter and they get in

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: an absolute groove right seventeen play drive, they have a

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Speaker 1: third down conversion, a fourth down conversion for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, okay, boom, it's ten to seven field goal game.

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Speaker 2: We're in this thing. The Packers get the ball and

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Speaker 2: just mo right down the field.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom bom boom, touchdown right, So like okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, and then the Bengals, to their credit, get

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Speaker 1: the ball back again right and drive down the field.

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Speaker 1: Now it's what seventeen to seventeen ten, They get a

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Speaker 1: field goal and the Packers just march right back down

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Speaker 1: the field. Now it's twenty four to ten.

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Speaker 3: It's just there was no the defense, especially without Trey Henderson,

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Speaker 3: was just nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, there just was not any conpmary football

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 8: being played, you know. I mean, it's like, oh, hey,

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 8: the uh the offense for sleepwalking, but it woke up.

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 8: But now the defense is in a trance. Man, what

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 8: the heck? How about if we try to get both

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Speaker 8: phases playing well together at the same time, and and

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Speaker 8: you you mentioned Trey Henderson. I mean, that's a blow

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Speaker 8: man and a back injury. You know, you just never

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Speaker 8: know what backs, uh is it? Is it a spinal

1310
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 8: column issue? Is it a vertebrae issue? You know, you

1311
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 8: just you just don't know about those things. And hopefully

1312
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 8: it's nothing that serious. Hopefully he just maybe you know,

1313
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 8: sprained a muscle in his back or some kind of

1314
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 8: a soft tissue injury back there or whatever. But man,

1315
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 8: you know, I've I've I've seen teammates struggle, uh, dealing

1316
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 8: with back issues and all of a sudden, you know,

1317
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 8: you have starting to feel pretty good and then boom it,

1318
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 8: you have a setback. So sometimes those things can be

1319
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 8: very very difficult to get get over and deal with.

1320
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: You know, you guys talked about just a little bit

1321
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: ago about the offensive line, no sacks for Joe Flak.

1322
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: I keep onaning to say, bro Joe Flacco, Right, Yeah,

1323
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: the offensive line has been maligned and but you know,

1324
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 3: and I know that the struggles of running the ball.

1325
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: But again, yet another positive I think out of yesterday

1326
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: was the no sacks. But was there something that was

1327
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 3: there a change that you saw in that unit yesterday

1328
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 3: that some kind of a tweak or something that helped

1329
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: them to perform better.

1330
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 8: I think I think Flacco helps him really. I mean

1331
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 8: he get rid of the ball like quickly right now.

1332
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 8: I mean he was making very quick reads, quick decisions,

1333
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 8: and the ball was out. I mean if if he

1334
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 8: had it in his hand over two and a half seconds,

1335
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 8: that was an upset, you know. And and that's gonna

1336
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 8: offensive lineman appreciate that, believe me. I mean they're they're

1337
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 8: around quarterbacks. Yeah, they're loving life there, so uh it's

1338
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 8: going to be you know interesting. I do think that

1339
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 8: the offensive line is playing better on a on a

1340
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 8: week to week basis. I think Scott Peters is helping,

1341
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 8: you know, them get the thing in sync. You know,

1342
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 8: not not five components of the offensive line playing individually,

1343
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 8: but you have to play as a unit. It's like

1344
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 8: a fist, you know. You just you curl the four

1345
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 8: fingers four fingers and wrap the thumb and it's just

1346
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 8: an involuntary reaction. It just happens, you know, naturally. And

1347
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 8: that's when a good offensive line is is is in

1348
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 8: rhythm and flowing smoothly. I mean, that's that's what you're

1349
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 8: that's what it's like to play and and and even

1350
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 8: just breaking it down to right and left side. Right guard,

1351
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 8: right tackle working together, left guard, left tackle working together.

1352
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 8: Uh you know, you take it for granted when it's

1353
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 8: going well, but it takes a while to get that

1354
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: kind of that kind of chemistry going between offensive linemen. So, uh,

1355
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 8: you know, if I just think as the season goes on,

1356
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 8: it's going to continue to improve, I don't think there's

1357
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 8: gonna be a regression there. I don't think Scott Peters

1358
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 8: would allow that. So I'm I'm optimistic that you know,

1359
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 8: the Bengals will play better as an offensive line, Joe

1360
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 8: Flacco's numbers will be consistently better, and uh, you know,

1361
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 8: they'll they'll run the football and pass the football and

1362
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 8: have a balanced offensive attack a lot.

1363
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: But a guy on the Bengals defense he didn't see

1364
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: much of was was Logan Wilson And and I didn't

1365
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: really notice it all at the time, but kind of

1366
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: going back and watching it, you know, Barrett Carter, uh right.

1367
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 2: He stepped in for him, but I didn't know he

1368
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: got sixty one snaps? Is that correct?

1369
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Speaker 5: That?

1370
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Speaker 2: Did I see that correctly? The rookie linebacker draft pick

1371
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: this year?

1372
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he did you know, and they were

1373
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 8: the Bengals. Al Golden decided that he was going to

1374
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 8: try to change things up from a schematic standpoint in

1375
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 8: terms of the numbers of linebackers and defensive lineman he

1376
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 8: had out there. You know, he was going four to

1377
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 8: three some uh four three four and then and then

1378
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 8: five two four as well, and and kind of changing

1379
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 8: that up, and even within within one series one set

1380
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 8: of downs, he'd have both of those configurations out there

1381
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 8: on the field, trying to confuse the quarterback and slow down,

1382
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 8: you know, the operation a little bit and and have

1383
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 8: some confusion with the offensive lineman in terms of, you know,

1384
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 8: not feeling real secure and real you know, real confident

1385
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 8: what they were doing in terms of making calls and

1386
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 8: and and and protecting and getting that run blocking uh

1387
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 8: uh game called properly and all the things that go

1388
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 8: along with that. So but Logan Wilson got very very

1389
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 8: few snaps and Carter good a bunch.

1390
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: There's no question lap off off off topic, but you

1391
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: know you're you.

1392
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,480
Speaker 3: You work with Dan hard on Sundays or great ambassador

1393
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: uh for your organization, for the Bengals organization, and uh

1394
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: great at breaking the games down the radio did you

1395
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: get to know the guy who worked with with Dan

1396
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: for so many saturdays, you know, on the same radio

1397
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: station and Jim Kelly and great ambassador for the university.

1398
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: Did you get to know him at all over the years.

1399
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 8: I did, Yeah, I did. I did get to know

1400
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 8: Jim Kelly a little bit. I mean he he was

1401
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 8: a great ambassador for UC. And that's just a great family.

1402
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 8: That's a family of h you know, unbelievable success from

1403
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 8: an athletic standpoint, and and then just good people. I

1404
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 8: mean they're just solid, solid Cincinnati citizens as touched as such,

1405
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 8: they've made the community a much better, much better place

1406
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 8: to be. And what a what a sad, sad story.

1407
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 8: I mean, cancer, that insidious disease. Man, it's it's taken

1408
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 8: so many lives. There's probably all the people listening, there's

1409
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 8: probably not one of them from a family standpoint that

1410
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 8: you know, can say, yeah, we've we've never never been

1411
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,480
Speaker 8: stricken by the disease. I mean, it seems to get everybody.

1412
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 8: And uh, it's thoughts and prayers and all that go

1413
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 8: out to the Kelly family for sure.

1414
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: A lot before you go.

1415
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, very very well said about Jim

1416
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: Kelly before we let you go, though, Steelers, you know,

1417
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: quick turn around here Thursday night here at home.

1418
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 2: Steelers have won three straight. In the early thoughts on

1419
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh here.

1420
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hate him, yeah, you know, but uh, you know,

1421
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin, A tip of the cap to that guy.

1422
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 8: I mean, what what a career he's had. And he's

1423
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 8: just a quality human being. He's an outstanding individual. There's

1424
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 8: there's no question about the leader of men. Everybody that's

1425
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 8: played for Mike Tomlin feels like they're a better person

1426
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 8: for having done so. He's just he's just one of

1427
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 8: those guys that you meet during the course of your

1428
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 8: life that that changes it, you know, and changed it

1429
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 8: from to a from a positive standpoint, there's no no

1430
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 8: two ways about that. But yeah, they've they've got everything.

1431
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh solid as always, you know. I mean, they they

1432
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 8: can they can run it, they can throw it.

1433
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

1434
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 8: Defensively, they get after it. They've got you know, one

1435
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 8: of the one of the longest tenured players with his

1436
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 8: football team on the defensive side in the National Football League,

1437
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 8: and Cam Hayward. That guy's a stud man, he's a playmaker,

1438
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 8: he's a he's a nuisance he's a problem. You gotta

1439
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 8: you gotta put four hands and four eyeballs on that

1440
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 8: guy to make sure that you have him taken care

1441
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 8: of on a snap by snap basis, because that dude

1442
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 8: is a flat out game wrecker. They can run a linebacker.

1443
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 8: They have good, good people on the back end. It's

1444
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 8: it's a good football team. It's a proud organization. You know.

1445
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 8: The Rooney family has done a great job with the

1446
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers for years and years and years. I remember

1447
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 8: playing against the Pittsburgh Steelers when they had guys like

1448
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 8: me and Joe Green and Ernie Holmes, Jack Lambert, Jack

1449
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 8: Cam's like, holy crap, man, It's like we're going out

1450
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 8: here and playing against the Hall of Famers. You know.

1451
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 8: It's like they're they're all going to be first the

1452
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 8: first ballot inductees to the Hall of Fame. And they

1453
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 8: they were. They they are just a talented group. And

1454
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 8: offensively they Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Ben Roethlisberg are throwing

1455
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 8: the football to those guys, Frank O'harris, Rocky Blier. It's

1456
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 8: it's amazing the number of guys that they had, uh,

1457
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 8: you know, getting things done for them over the years

1458
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 8: they've I don't think Mike Thomas had a losing season,

1459
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 8: so a year in and year out, they just they

1460
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 8: just they get things done in Pittsburgh. They know what

1461
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 8: they're doing and you get you get to tip your

1462
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 8: cap to the to the Rooney family, uh, to the

1463
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 8: all the scouts that they know exactly what a Pittsburgh

1464
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 8: Steeler is supposed to be. The Organizationally, they have a

1465
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 8: you know, they have this is this is exactly, they

1466
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 8: have a body type. They have all kinds of you know,

1467
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 8: by position obviously, but I mean they have they have dimensions,

1468
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 8: they have all kinds of things and attitude. You know,

1469
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 8: it's like, is this guy a team guy?

1470
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 7: You know he is.

1471
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 8: He got an ego that is hard to deal with.

1472
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 8: We don't want that. We don't want that poison in

1473
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 8: our locker room. We want, you know, it to be

1474
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 8: you know, harmonious. We want it to be a team,

1475
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 8: team entity. When the Pittsburgh Steelers show up, it's one

1476
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 8: for all for one. Here we go. There.

1477
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: You go to your point about Caam Hayward lab fifteen

1478
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: years in the league playing defensive line. Now, I mean

1479
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: just some quick math, and I know there's some games

1480
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: he missed and this and that, so you figure, you know,

1481
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: there's about seventy plays in the game time, sixteen games

1482
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: times fifteen years, that's almost seventeen thousand times.

1483
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: Lab you're getting hit in the face, I mean.

1484
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: Demon, he's getting hit in the face every play and

1485
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 3: he just he's done it for fifteen years.

1486
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

1487
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 8: It is, it really is. And you talk about a

1488
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 8: guy that you know conditions himself for the game of football.

1489
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 8: I mean, his workouts are reportedly amazing. They're unbelievable. And

1490
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 8: you know the endurance that it takes to play football

1491
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 8: all that time, because you know, defensive lineman they're not running,

1492
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 8: but they are. They're pursuing plays, they're running all over

1493
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 8: the field. But to take that pounding, those number of

1494
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 8: steps all of those years, man, that's got to catch

1495
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 8: up with you. At some point.

1496
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: You would think you would think, well, well that listen,

1497
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: we got a run.

1498
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: But really really appreciate your time as always, have a

1499
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: great show tonight, and I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 8: Thank you, lap appreciate it, guys.

1501
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Thanks to say it all right, say it the one

1502
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: the only Dave leaven there you go, breaking it down.

1503
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and check some trafficking weather.

1504
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: How are you looking?

1505
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 7: All right?

1506
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: Back with Rocky alongside Jason Williams for just a little

1507
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: bit longer, and Jason did want to check in with

1508
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: a good friend from ABC, Alex Stone, and Alex I

1509
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of this, the helicopter crash in California.

1510
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: Tell us what's going on here?

1511
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a crazy scene. What I'm well, So, Saturday

1512
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 4: afternoon on a really busy beach in Huntington Beach, who

1513
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 4: was crowded as it always is, crashed from a giant

1514
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: highad resort and they were getting ready for an event

1515
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 4: called the Cars and Copters, which was on Sunday. But

1516
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 4: on Saturday, all the choppers were flying in one owned

1517
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 4: by a guy who is reportedly known in the area

1518
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 4: for flying his helicopter doing acrobatic quick flybys the buildings

1519
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 4: in the area. He was landing and then the helicopter

1520
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 4: went out of control, began spinning, and then it went

1521
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 4: up and then it dropped down. And this guy says,

1522
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 4: couldn't believe what was going on. He was watching all

1523
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 4: of this, he was on the beach and this chopper

1524
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 4: coming down right on top of him.

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01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 11: I thought it was like a movie's Sun Gone Fast,

1526
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 11: and then I realized that this was not a movie.

1527
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 11: This is real life, because we were actually witnessing all

1528
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 11: the other helicopters land safely, and when we just saw

1529
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 11: that helicopter loo control, everybody just turned around and ran

1530
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 11: in the opposite direction.

1531
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 4: So everybody was running and it got wedged between palm

1532
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 4: trees and the base of a bridge leading over to

1533
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 4: the high had Resort, and it just kind of wedged

1534
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: right in there and kept it from blowing apart. It

1535
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 4: didn't catch on fire. This was a belt two twenty two,

1536
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: which was made popular in the nineteen eighties by the

1537
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: TV show Airwolf, and the same type of chopper, but

1538
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 4: there were two people on board, three on the ground

1539
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 4: who were injured, including a little boy. And this was

1540
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 4: pretty incredible that the chopper came down right on top

1541
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 4: of him, but the way it wedged in between the

1542
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 4: palm trees and those stairs on the bridge, there was

1543
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 4: a gap of I don't know, maybe three feet, and

1544
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 4: he was laying in kind of a fetal position underneath

1545
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 4: of it as the chopper came down on top of him,

1546
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 4: and with the sound of what sounded like a jet engine,

1547
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 4: but the engine still going after the crash, and the

1548
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 4: red light blinking still on the chopper as they just

1549
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 4: crashed down. People went in. Bystanders went in and dragged

1550
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: him from underneath the chopper and got him out of there.

1551
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: And so, I mean, Chuck an amazing scene. But the

1552
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: NTSB and the FAA they're investigating, but they have given

1553
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 4: zero info because of the government shutdown. All we get

1554
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 4: is Auto replies saying because of the shutdown, they're not

1555
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 4: going to be providing information. So they are investigating. We

1556
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: just don't know a lot about it. But the pilot

1557
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 4: who owns the chopper reportedly as injuries. He's been in

1558
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: the hospital was over the weekend. But amazing scene and

1559
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: luckily nobody was killed in that little boy. I mean,

1560
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 4: you can imagine again like a movie, this thing's coming

1561
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 4: down on top of you. You brace for impact, and

1562
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 4: it stops a couple of feet above you because of

1563
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: the way it wedged into the trees and the stairs,

1564
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: and he was he's injured, but relatively safe underneath of

1565
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 4: the chopper.

1566
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 3: And Alex you're you're there in southern California and I

1567
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: was just there a few weeks ago for the Red's

1568
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: Dodgers series. It's not uncommon to see, you know, quite

1569
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 3: a few choppers up, up and around in that whole

1570
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: area too, right, And.

1571
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: I know yeah, I mean whether it be police or

1572
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 4: military or private shoppers. I mean you think of Co

1573
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 4: Bryant and and how he died here in the LA area,

1574
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 4: and that they're all over if you've got enough money,

1575
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 4: that is how because traffic is so bad here and

1576
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 4: it's such a huge, widespread area. Yeah, it can take

1577
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 4: you three hours, four hours at times to get from

1578
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 4: northern LA County down the southern LA County let alone,

1579
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: if you've got to go into Orange County or down

1580
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: to San Diego. So the way you get around, if

1581
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 4: you have the money or the means or the ability

1582
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: to own one, or your police or your military, you

1583
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 4: chop around. So there's just constantly helicopters in the air.

1584
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 4: But in this one, we don't know what went wrong. Yeah,

1585
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 4: this guy owns this chopper. He's known for doing acrobatic

1586
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 4: kind of flybys and different things. And as he was

1587
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 4: coming in, it's say, you know, almost looked like an

1588
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: updraft or something where it got unstable and then began

1589
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: spinning and then the rot flew off the back. But

1590
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 4: the NTSB and FAA will figure that out. But it

1591
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 4: was right in front of such a big crowd and

1592
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 4: people went running to get away from it.

1593
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: What are the rules of airspace in LA given that

1594
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: there are so many helicopters, any idea?

1595
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it would be that they can fly

1596
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 4: where they want to fly up to a certain altitude.

1597
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 4: There's different classes of airspace Class B airspace and things

1598
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 4: around airports where they've either got to go below the

1599
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 4: pattern or around it. We run into that a lot

1600
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 4: with chases that go on, I mean every day here

1601
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: in LA. There's a couple of chases and they're all

1602
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 4: televised live wall the wall on every channel. And when

1603
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 4: the chase goes by one of the airports, all the

1604
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 4: TV news choppers have to figure out how they're gonna

1605
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 4: maneuver around Lax or Burbank Airport or John Wayne Airport

1606
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 4: or Ontario or Long Beach, all the commercial airports that

1607
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 4: are all pretty close together. So yeah, they've got to

1608
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 4: work around their different airspace. But but in that area,

1609
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 4: the choppers would be able to pretty much fly wherever

1610
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 4: they want to go.

1611
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: And now She said that the chopper was the kind

1612
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: like airwolfare the show.

1613
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, on Airwolfs they modified the look of it a

1614
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 4: little bit, but this is a belt to twenty two,

1615
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 4: the same type of aircraft as al.

1616
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: It was a fantastic show back in the day, by

1617
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: the way, it was. It was good, very good. All right, Alexis,

1618
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: we got to run, but we really appreciate your time.

1619
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1620
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 3: You gotta think I'll see it, Alex Stone, join us.

1621
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 3: You remember Airwolf I was hearing. I do not, Oh

1622
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 3: my god, how do I not remember that? It's like, uh,

1623
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: eighty four eighty five kind of back then there was

1624
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: three channels, one of those I don't remember.

1625
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was uh and I read the story

1626
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: like the guy who was like the actor in it,

1627
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: A string fellow I believe was his, like his name

1628
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: in the show. But he was like a like one

1629
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: of those rising actors. Good looks like you know, the

1630
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: whole deal. But he was like a terrible alcoholic and

1631
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: just ruined his whole whole career in life.

1632
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: That looks pretty sweet, by the way.

1633
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: A helicopter and fire missiles and a awesome all right,

1634
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's go ahead and check some trafficking weather.

1635
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 9: How are we looking from the UC Health Traffic Center.

1636
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 9: Mamma Graham Save Lives called five one three five eight four.

1637
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 9: Pink for your annual mammogram with UC Health Expert Team

1638
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 9: five one three five eight four pink.

1639
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: Good news.

1640
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 9: Long West six Freeman the fifth as we opened that

1641
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 9: had been shut down because of an earlier crash. Southbound

1642
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 9: seventy five Ronald Reagan Highway to Norway Lateral still about

1643
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 9: a seven minute trip through the area. Delayings back to Shepherd.

1644
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 9: We're stop and go on seventy five southbound from the

1645
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 9: Viaduct to the brent Spence. In seventy one south MLK

1646
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 9: to the Brent Spence about a five minute drive. Seventy

1647
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 9: five northbound Turfway to Twelfth Street still about a fifteen

1648
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 9: minute drive right now. And on Banning at Cole Ring,

1649
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 9: we've picked up an accident. Police are on the scene.

1650
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 9: I'm Rick Sharp News Radio seven hundred at WD wellwed In.

1651
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: The forecast right now, pre sunny day out there, high

1652
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: as seventy six, winds will continue lightly throughout the day,

1653
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: and then tonight clear skies are lower forty nine degrees

1654
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: and then tomorrow looking like another nice sunny day, seventy

1655
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: six degrees right now at a seventy four news radio

1656
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

1657
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: All right, mister Penney, I'm going to show you some images,

1658
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: and you tell me what you see.

1659
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 10: Looks like a butterfly listening to Scott'sloan show. And this

1660
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 10: one I see a rocket ship, a rocket ship, yeah,

1661
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 10: bless enough with the planet Sloan, I see. And this

1662
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 10: one that looks like a fish swimming in a mountain pond.

1663
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: Very good.

1664
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, but the fish is angry because he's not listening

1665
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 10: to Scott Sloan.

1666
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan, please listen responsibly.

1667
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: Join me Scott Sloan tomorrow morning at nine o'clock on

1668
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW.

1669
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 2: He might be best for us to discuss some strong medications.

1670
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,000
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