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Speaker 1: This segment brought to us by eighty four lumber Dynasty

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Speaker 1: partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Tom Offerman in Today for

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden. If you want to know what a liar

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Speaker 1: sounds like, well you don't have to look very hard.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you just have to go down to Baltimore

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Speaker 1: and listen to GM Eric DaCosta and his press conference

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Speaker 1: yesterday after the Ravens backing out of their trade agreement

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders to send Max Crosby to Baltimore for

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Speaker 1: two first round picks obviously met with a ton of skepticism.

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Speaker 1: I think it takes very minimal dot connecting to smell

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Speaker 1: something fishy going on down there in Baltimore, and then

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Speaker 1: that was just had gasoline poured all over it whenever

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson gets signed just hours the morning after the

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby news broke and shattered the NFL world. So

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Speaker 1: Eric DeCosta takes the podium GM of the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: he's asked obviously about, oh, you know, this skepticism that

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Speaker 1: is being dealt towards him and the Baltimore Ravens organization

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Speaker 1: for what seems to be a pretty shady move.

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Speaker 2: And here's what his response was, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I understand it, you know, I understand it. We

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Speaker 3: live in that age of skepticism and people question, especially

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Speaker 3: people that don't really know me or know the Ravens

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Speaker 3: culture and the Ravens organization. So I understand it. As

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Speaker 3: I said at the beginning, We've got a responsibility. I've

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Speaker 3: got a responsibility to the Ravens, to this community, to

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Speaker 3: our fans, and to Steve Bushati to do what we

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Speaker 3: think is best for the club. And that's what we

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Speaker 3: always try to do. Every decision we make is based

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Speaker 3: on this idea. Is this the best thing for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: It's very, very challenging. Again, I understand how people might,

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Speaker 3: maybe from a far would feel that way, but nobody's

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Speaker 3: more upset about this than me.

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Speaker 2: Gutted by it. Actually, Oh, I'm so gutted by this.

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Speaker 2: My heart's just breaking that this fell through.

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Speaker 1: I feel just terrible in a fall before the rest

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Speaker 1: of my career. It's just so obvious to see what

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Speaker 1: the Ravens did here, at least from what I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: and where I'm looking at it from. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: got cold feet. They gave up two first round picks

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Speaker 1: for Max Crosby. Probably a bit of an overpay. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, whatever, no one was crucifying the Ravens

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Speaker 1: in the world we lived in for about forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours where Max Crosby was a Raven saying, oh geez,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they gave up all that to get Crosby.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it was quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: We played a SoundBite on the show last week where

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky was saying, there's no more excuses for Lamar

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Speaker 2: But that was probably a bit of an overpay. Ravens

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Speaker 2: realized that.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, another domino falls and Trey

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson finds himself out on the open market.

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Speaker 2: That's something that the Ravens can go out and.

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Speaker 1: Get without having to give up two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: and they decide to welcher on their deal for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: Let's flunk the physical and use that as the excuse

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Speaker 2: moving forward.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think this will really be proven true

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Speaker 1: or false based on if Max Crosby gets traded again

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Speaker 1: and if he does indeed pass the physical on the

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Speaker 1: new team that he goes to, although based on his

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Speaker 1: tweet last night. It seems like he is all in

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Speaker 1: on staying in Vegas and being a Raider. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know how that works for the Raiders now with

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Speaker 1: all of the money that they've allocated this free agency

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Speaker 1: to now have to work Max Crosby back into the fold.

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Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see how this plays out.

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Speaker 1: But if he goes to another team and he passes

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Speaker 1: that physical, then don't we kind of know the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are kind of full of crap and you'll give me

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Speaker 1: the well, every team has a different doctor. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: Ravens doctor is a little bit more cautious, and he

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't like the future of Max Crosby here.

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Speaker 2: I just think you're really naive to believe Baltimore in

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious that they backed out on

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Speaker 1: this deal because Trey Hendrickson became available, and then that

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Speaker 1: theory proved itself less than twenty four hours later, like

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Speaker 1: ten hours later, everybody went to bed going, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby not a Raven. I bet you they signed

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Speaker 1: Trey Henderson. They wake up eight am the next day.

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson Raven's four year deal one hundred twelve million dollars,

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Speaker 1: basically the exact same money that they would have had

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Speaker 1: give up the two first round picks to do that.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy to see kind of like a just

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Speaker 1: of NFL insiders and tweets from anonymous gms being like,

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Speaker 1: this is a bridge that I don't know can ever

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Speaker 1: be fixed, and the Ravens are gonna have trouble dealing

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Speaker 2: We'll see about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not, but I

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Speaker 1: entertain that that's a possibility because I don't think anybody's

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Speaker 1: buying what Eric DeCosta was selling at that press conference.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, a part of me respects him

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna go through with this sham,

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Speaker 1: go through with it.

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Speaker 2: Just lie your ass off. I'm gutted. Oh god, got it.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we lost Crosby. How could this happen

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Speaker 1: Lay it on thick, and that wasn't even the cherry

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Speaker 1: on top. The cherry on top was when he later

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Speaker 1: said they were doing work to fit Trey Hendrickson under

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Speaker 1: the cap with Max Crosby. They wanted to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to pair up Hendrickson and Crosby to you know,

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Speaker 1: put it out there that, oh, the Hendrickson thing and

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Speaker 1: the signing there, that's pure coincidence. We were already kind

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Speaker 1: of going that way and then Max Crosby failed as

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Speaker 1: physical So I'm gutted again. Remember, I'm gutted, and we

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Speaker 1: have to just go with Hendrickson instead of this duo

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's true, but I really find that hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: But again, if you're gonna do this, lay it on Thick.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of him.

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Speaker 2: In a way. This is how you do it. You

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Speaker 2: can't just you know, pussy foot around here.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna pull off this crap, you got to

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Speaker 1: cannon ball into these waters.

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Speaker 2: And that's in a way what Eric Tacosta did.

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Speaker 1: I hate the Ravens though, so screw him and screw

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Speaker 1: that organization for what they just did. As far as

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Speaker 1: other organizations holding the grudge against the Ravens, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: that happens. Probably with the Raiders in this current regime,

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Speaker 1: I doubt they'll be dealing with Baltimore anytime soon, two

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Speaker 1: years from now, the right deal comes across, A knee

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Speaker 1: on the block that you can use. Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: think back and say, ah, man, I just I don't

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand how anybody could.

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Speaker 1: In their right mind think that there's nothing going on here,

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Speaker 1: some shenanigans, some tom foolery by the Ravens. It seems

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Speaker 1: very clear to me. I would love Max Crosby to

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Speaker 1: come out have a fifteen sack type of season, just

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Speaker 1: a dominant season.

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Speaker 2: Knee looks real healthy.

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Speaker 1: So then we could kind of know without a shadow

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Speaker 1: of a doubt that the Ravens were full of bs,

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Speaker 1: or we could say what the hell's going on with

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Speaker 1: that team doctor down in Baltimore. First of all, they're

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Speaker 1: hurt all the damn time, the Ravens. And second of all,

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Speaker 1: what was he looking at? I mean, what was he thinking?

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Speaker 2: Every team?

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Speaker 1: And I took this away from the you know, mob

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Speaker 1: of pitchfork wielding and torch wielding insiders that were kind

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Speaker 1: of going after the Ravens, Tom Palsera leading the way,

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Speaker 1: just spitting venom at the Ravens organization. But one thing

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Speaker 1: fact is everybody in the Max Crosby sweepstakes they knew

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Speaker 1: that the knee was potentially going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: They knew that he probably wouldn't have been able to

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Speaker 1: pass a March physical. June July is where you were

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Speaker 1: targeting Max Crosby getting back onto the field. And that's

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Speaker 1: good news because that's training camp, maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: is everybody was saying he's a head of schedule. Now

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Speaker 1: his agent was the person that they were retweeting and

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Speaker 1: saying that, And of course the agent's going to say

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Speaker 1: that for Max Crosby, but.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It is a bit of a he said she said

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Speaker 1: scenario here, But I tend to think that Max Crosby's

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Speaker 1: knee a was supposed to fail that physical For any

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Speaker 1: team that was going to get him. It was more

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Speaker 1: of just hey, is it on track as far as

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Speaker 1: rehab is concerned. Obviously, if we had to play tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: a trajectory where he's going to be Max Crosby again.

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Speaker 2: That's what that physical was about. And maybe, sure, if

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Speaker 2: they give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens that was what their doctor had in mind,

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Speaker 1: and he said, no, this isn't going to be the

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby of old when he comes back, he is

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Speaker 1: not going to be the same player. This knee injury

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Speaker 1: He's gonna fade a bit. Okay, fine, I just find

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Speaker 1: that hard to believe, and I guess time will just tell.

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Speaker 1: But it really really strikes me like the Ravens again

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Speaker 1: pulled a fast one here.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing about the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Karma might be coming back at them this year like

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Speaker 1: a bitch, because we already know in the middle of

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby being a Raven and now Max Crosby not

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Speaker 1: being a Raven, they had a pretty decent exodus of

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Speaker 1: important players on their team. Tyler Linderbaum, starting center, All

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Speaker 1: Pro caliber player, he in Vegas now reunited with Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: I guess on a different team, but Tyler Lindenbaum gone,

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Speaker 1: another piece of their defense and the secondary of safety gone.

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Speaker 1: They are missing players from last year's team that didn't

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Speaker 1: play that well, finished under five hundred. Of course, injuries happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Matt A. Bootc is ever gonna

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Speaker 1: come back. And you may view Trey Hendrickson and Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby as like a one for one, they are not

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Speaker 1: now maybe again, Max Crosby isn't gonna be to say

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby, but Max Crosby is a much superior player

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Speaker 1: than Trey Hendrickson. And I've seen those stats going around

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Speaker 1: as far as pass rush only where Trey Hendrickson actually

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Speaker 1: edges him out in certain areas, And Trey Hendrickson could

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Speaker 1: be argued in being a better pass rusher than Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: but it's by like a half a sack here, and

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple pressures there. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Max Crosby sucks at rushing the passer.

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Speaker 1: We all know that's not true. But that's where the

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Speaker 1: comparison really stops, because Trey Hendrickson is so much more

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Speaker 1: that and Trey Hendrickson is not good at it. So

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Speaker 1: the Ravens they can.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a safe space today to talk Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into some of the new acquisitions from

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Speaker 4: Your you know, your best player at a little sweetener

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I really don't see a negative at all,

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Speaker 2: It's a business.

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Speaker 4: the right word, because Kenneth Gainwell was yes complimentary. It

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Speaker 4: gives you a more complimentary running back room.

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Speaker 2: And Bean was one of the.

440
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Speaker 4: Best corners in football last year. And yeah, he's approaching

441
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Speaker 4: that age thirty where they can lose half a step,

442
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Speaker 4: but I think he's still got at least one or

443
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Speaker 4: two really solid years less than him. But I think

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Speaker 4: my answer has to be Michael Pittman Junior Tom for

445
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Speaker 4: a couple of reasons. One because this was the third

446
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Speaker 4: straight off season that we were set to talk wide receiver,

447
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: wide receiver, wide receiver at nauseum. Finally we've closed down

448
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Speaker 4: that trilogy and and put an end to that by

449
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Speaker 4: adding a proven guy like Pittman Jr. And when you

450
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Speaker 4: look at where he excels Tom, when you look at

451
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Speaker 4: what he does best in term of his route running

452
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Speaker 4: ability and where he really has success, I think it

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Speaker 4: fits perfectly into a Mike McCarthy offense. This is a

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Speaker 4: guy that really accelerates in slants and digs and outs,

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Speaker 4: you know, those those short to intermediate routes that Mike

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Speaker 4: McCarthy loves in his offense. I think his skill set's

457
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Speaker 4: gonna pay very well with DK Metcalf because you can

458
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Speaker 4: move DK all over the field, you can move Michael

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Speaker 4: Pittman Junior all over the field. He plays the left

460
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Speaker 4: and right side about an equally fifty to fifty split.

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Speaker 4: You know, he plays on the boundary sixty five percent

462
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Speaker 4: of the time and you know in the slot thirty

463
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Speaker 4: five percent of the time. You know, roughly, those are

464
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Speaker 4: the numbers. So he just he fits anywhere that you

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Speaker 4: want to place him in terms of you know, in

466
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Speaker 4: the in the boundary, in the slot, X, Y or

467
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Speaker 4: Z receiver to use the modern terms. He runs a

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Speaker 4: route tree that I think is going to fit very

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Speaker 4: well into Mike McCarthy's offense. He's a total culture guy.

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Speaker 4: Everything you hear about him is like he's the opposite

471
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Speaker 4: of the diva wide receiver. He's early to practice, he's

472
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Speaker 4: early to meetings. He plays his head down and he

473
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Speaker 4: goes to work and you get him for a contract

474
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Speaker 4: that's very reasonable and without having to give up much

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Speaker 4: of a draft pick at all, just a late round

476
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Speaker 4: pick swap. I think when you consider how we've been

477
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Speaker 4: talking about wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver at nauseum

478
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Speaker 4: for three years, when you consider the market that just saw.

479
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Speaker 4: You know, a guy like DJ Moore, who I like,

480
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Speaker 4: but I don't like him that much more than Michael

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Speaker 4: Pittman Junior go for a second round pick. You get

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Speaker 4: him signed at under twenty million dollars per year, which

483
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Speaker 4: is fair value for a really good number two wide receiver.

484
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Speaker 4: I think there's just how he's going to fit with

485
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Speaker 4: what Mike McCarthy wants him to do. How he's so

486
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Speaker 4: precise in his route running, which we know Aaron Rodgers loves.

487
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Speaker 4: If it is in fact Aaron Rodgers under center for

488
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Speaker 4: the Steelers in September, I think the Michael Pittman Junior

489
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Speaker 4: trade acquisition just checks so many boxes.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing that I really like about it, and

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it, and your answer there was he's not

492
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Speaker 1: a diva and how many you know kind of upper

493
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Speaker 1: not to say he's an elite number one receiver, but

494
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Speaker 1: upper crust receivers don't have that diva mentality about them,

495
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Speaker 1: and Wes if best case scenario plays out for the Steelers,

496
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Speaker 1: you know, two years from now, maybe even halfway through

497
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Speaker 1: this season, Michael Pitman Junior might be looking at himself

498
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Speaker 1: as the number three option in that wide receiver room.

499
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Speaker 1: So knowing that he's not a diva and knowing that

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Speaker 1: he probably takes that in stride, I think is big

501
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Speaker 1: and I'll be he'll be a pretty expensive number three option.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what too, Tom to just kind

503
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Speaker 4: of piggyback off of that, because I should have probably

504
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Speaker 4: mentioned this. The last thing about it as well is, Man,

505
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Speaker 4: it really leaves all your options for because I think

506
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Speaker 4: we all agree the Steelers are still going to add

507
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Speaker 4: another wide receiver. I don't think it becomes you know,

508
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Speaker 4: it's not priority number one and you have to take

509
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Speaker 4: one at pick twenty one, like it felt like it's

510
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Speaker 4: certain times this offseason. But whether it's twenty one, fifty three,

511
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Speaker 4: whether it's one of those trio of third round picks

512
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Speaker 4: that the Steelers have, I think we would expect them,

513
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Speaker 4: they have five picks in the top ninety nine to

514
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Speaker 4: use one of those on a wide receiver. But now

515
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Speaker 4: with big body in the skill set that DK metcalf has,

516
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: big body in the skill set that Michael Pittman junr has,

517
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Speaker 4: you can draft whoever you want. Tom. You know, if

518
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Speaker 4: you would have gone out and say signed a Wan

519
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Speaker 4: del Robinson or a Jalen Naylor, who I think are

520
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Speaker 4: good wide receivers, and I wouldn't have been upset if

521
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: the Steelers would have gone that route. But they're smaller guys.

522
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Speaker 4: And then you're looking at it and you're saying, Okay,

523
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Speaker 4: in the draft, we need one of these bigger bodies, right,

524
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: we need a Jordan Tyson or we need a Denzel Boston.

525
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: We can't go the mackay Lemon Tasey CONCEPTI own route.

526
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Speaker 2: Of these guys that.

527
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Speaker 4: Are under six foot tall. Then all of a sudden,

528
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Speaker 4: we're too small in the wide receiver room with two

529
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Speaker 4: guys that you know stand at six to four.

530
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Speaker 2: Now you can go.

531
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Speaker 4: And get the smaller, shiftier, cerebral, slot capable route runner.

532
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: You can still go out and add another big body

533
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Speaker 4: like a Denzel Boston who's six foot four, like a

534
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Speaker 4: Chris Brazzle from Tennessee. You could still potentially bring back

535
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Speaker 4: a guy like Calvin Austin if he hangs around in

536
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Speaker 4: free agency and you think the money in the contract

537
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Speaker 4: is right, Uh, you now have wide open options for

538
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Speaker 4: wide receiver number three. You don't have to pigeonhole yourself

539
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: into getting a certain type of receiver. I think that's

540
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: important in this conversation too.

541
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Wes Yueler from Steelers Nation Radio here

542
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Speaker 1: on the Mark Man Show.

543
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: Tom opp from an in for Mark today.

544
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Speaker 1: I love the Jamal Deane signing as well, Wes, but

545
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: it's funny. It feels like a lot of the conversation

546
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: being driven after the Jamal Dean signing isn't about Jamel Dean.

547
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Speaker 1: It's about what Jalen Ramsey and where he's deployed now.

548
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Speaker 1: And I think right now, based on how the roster looks,

549
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Speaker 1: he'd obviously have to be free safety, but I would

550
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Speaker 1: not rule out. And maybe this is what they pivot

551
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Speaker 1: to with that first round pick now at number twenty one,

552
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Speaker 1: them getting more of a full time free safety and

553
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Speaker 1: finding Ramsey back in that slot position.

554
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Speaker 4: I do think that's the master plan. And I know

555
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Speaker 4: that the Steelers, you know, have also added Darnell Savage, but.

556
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Speaker 2: He feels like he's not right.

557
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, yeah, he's a chuck. He's a Chuck Clark

558
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 4: Jabrill Pepper's replacement. So you're right if you're asking me, Now, Yeah,

559
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Speaker 4: I'd still like to add a veteran guard. I think certainly.

560
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: I still wouldn't hate adding a defensive line then with

561
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: some you know, some nosy ish, some nose tackle run

562
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 4: stuffing type capabilities. But safety feels like the one thing

563
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: that you really got to center in on here because

564
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: how that affects Jalen Ramsey, what that means for the

565
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: entire defense. It feels like that's kind of the final piece. Again,

566
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: maybe then you know somebody else that you can add

567
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: to the mixt on the defensive line. I really love

568
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: Dylan Sentiment out of Oregon. Man, his tape is crazy impressive.

569
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: He tested so well at the combine. I think there's

570
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: a legit chance, not a great chance, but a fifty

571
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: to fifty legit chance he's still there at pick twenty one.

572
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: If he is, I'd be very tempted to run to

573
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Speaker 4: the podium. He's fast. You do need some speed on

574
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Speaker 4: that back end. You know, Ramsey and Deshaun Elliott are

575
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: not slow, but they're not the fastest guys. Dean is

576
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: not slow, but he's not the fastest guy. Joey Porter

577
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 4: Junior is not slow, but he's not the fastest guy.

578
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Speaker 4: I would love to add a young safety to that

579
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: secondary with a lot of speed and a lot of

580
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: ball you know, playmaking, closing on the ball, finding the ball,

581
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: ball hawk abilities, and I think Dylan Fentnerman is the

582
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: one who certainly fits that bill. There's a lot of

583
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Speaker 4: safeties to like in this class. McNeil Warren out of Toledo,

584
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: I think is going to go in the first round.

585
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: I really like howse Lee out of LSU and wheat

586
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: Lee out of Penn State. But yeah, if you can

587
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: add one more piece that will allow you to truly

588
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: play Ramsey in that big nickel slot, versatile role where

589
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: I think he can really excel, you'd had some speed

590
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: to your back end in the process. That right now

591
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: feels like kind of the the ideal master plans you're

592
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: if you're waiting for some of these final things.

593
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: To come together.

594
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Other than Kenny Gan, he's already been replaced down. The

595
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: big free agent loss for Pittsburgh is Isaac Ciamalu.

596
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Speaker 2: And you mentioned maybe going out and adding a veteran guard.

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Speaker 1: They really have to do that, whether it's adding a

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Speaker 1: serious talent in the first couple of rounds in the

599
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: draft or an established veteran, because I don't think you

600
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Speaker 1: want to just annoint Spencer Anderson as your left guard

601
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: when you get to the trope.

602
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: No, you don't.

603
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: You don't want to annoy him as your left guard.

604
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: You also just want to have options, you know, between

605
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: we're all hoping that Roger Jones is healthy by then

606
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: so he can get his hand back in the mix.

607
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: Dylan's cook with what he showed down the stretch. But regardless, Tom,

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: you want options on the left side of that offensive line.

609
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: So whether it's you add one of these veteran types

610
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: like a Joel Baconio, who was you know, officially released

611
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: by the Cleveland Browns today, whether it's you go with

612
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: someone in the draft, I think there's gonna be a

613
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: couple guys available in the second round. Vega from Penn

614
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: State in the first round. I'd be very tempted by that.

615
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people. They're looking at

616
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Speaker 4: it and they're saying, you've invested a couple first round

617
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Speaker 4: picks in your two Tack. You've invested in the second

618
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Speaker 4: round pick and Zach Frazier, you know, and an early

619
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Speaker 4: Day three pick in Mason McCormick. Do you really want

620
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Speaker 4: to go back and use one of your top two

621
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Speaker 4: picks on the offensive line? And I understand that questioning

622
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: from man Tom. You know this, it's such a cheat

623
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Speaker 4: code to have, you know, one of these top two

624
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: or three truly elite offensive lines in the NFL, and

625
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: they might just be a piece away.

626
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Speaker 2: From doing that.

627
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Speaker 4: And you know, so there's part of me that's like

628
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: bringing the veteran who pairs nicely with the young.

629
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Speaker 2: Guys that you have.

630
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Speaker 4: The other part of me that says, go out and

631
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: find one more young guy and then you could be

632
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: set for you know, the next two presidential terms, the

633
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: next two Olympic cycles. You could be completely set on

634
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: that offensive line. But you got options there. The veteran

635
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: market has thinned out a little bit in free agency

636
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: with offensive line, as it tends to do early, But

637
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: there's still some options there.

638
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of guys.

639
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be against Vega. I don't think he makes

640
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: it to the first round. The guard out of Penn

641
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: State to twenty one. I think he goes in the

642
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: top twenty, but if he's there at twenty one, I'd

643
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: definitely be interested. And then there's a couple guys out

644
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: of Oregon, out of Texas, A and M out of

645
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: Tennessee that I would really be interested in it pick

646
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: fifty three in the second round. We also know Tom,

647
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: you know that's Andy Widel came from Philadelphia where they

648
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: just continually invest in their offensive and defensive lines and

649
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: it's worked out so well for the Eagles over the

650
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: last decade, you know, going to three Super Bowls in

651
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: winning two of them. I think that's a It wouldn't

652
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: shock me if that's a real option. Again, before the draft,

653
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: we're looking more at wide receiver in some other areas,

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Speaker 4: but now as the free agency picture starts to come

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Speaker 4: into play, it really feels like offensive line could be

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Speaker 4: could be on the agenda still in free agency, but

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Speaker 4: definitely early on in the draft. In April.

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Speaker 1: Last thing for you here, Wes, do you feel like

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Speaker 1: it's almost a certainty that Rogers will be back at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Like if I say eighty five percent chance you agree

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Speaker 1: with that, and then if so, how long you think

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Speaker 1: we play this waiting game we going into late May

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Speaker 1: again like last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be completely honest with you, Tom, I hate

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Speaker 4: this question. Now. I also ask every guest that we

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Speaker 4: have on the drive this same exact question. So I

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Speaker 4: can't knock you for that, because yes, I eighty five

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Speaker 4: percent ninety I think it's very likely that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: will be back, will be under center for the Steelers

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Speaker 4: when they played their first regular season game in September.

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Speaker 4: But I also wouldn't bet a dollar on it, you know,

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Speaker 4: like forget putting the mortgage on it. I wouldn't even

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Speaker 4: bet a dollar on it, because this guy's just so unpredictable.

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Speaker 4: His appearance on the McAfee show a week or two

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Speaker 4: ago whenever that was obviously did not answer any of

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Speaker 4: these questions. In fact, it probably just raised more questions

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Speaker 4: than it gave answers. You know, Oh, Mark con you know,

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Speaker 4: the combine was talking about how they wanted to get

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Speaker 4: this thing done earlier. You know, the I forget what

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Speaker 4: the exact line was, but you know, not be as

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Speaker 4: long as a process as last year. I think we

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Speaker 4: were all confident of that first, but as there continues

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Speaker 4: to kind of be radio silence for the most part

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Speaker 4: on both sides. I'm not confident in that anymore. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 4: if you ask me right now, the most likely outcome

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Speaker 4: I think Aaron Rodgers is a Pittsburgh Steeler within the

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Speaker 4: next six weeks before we get to the draft. But

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Speaker 4: I also have I'm not putting a dollar on that

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Speaker 4: man because he's a different cat. The Steelers haven't necessarily

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Speaker 4: made it seem like they're being loud about trying to

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Speaker 4: get this done right now. There is just, once again

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Speaker 4: so much unknown, And yeah, I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: let it stretch out till the end of May, last

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Speaker 4: week of May, or first week of June. Whatever it

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Speaker 4: was last year when Aaron Rodgers signed, I do think

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Speaker 4: it was the very first week of June, or maybe

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Speaker 4: one of the last couple of days of May. I

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Speaker 4: don't think it gets to that point again this year.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also not any closer to saying, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be It's gonna be done and dusted and

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Speaker 4: the ink's gonna dry on the contract here soon. I

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Speaker 4: just think anybody who who feels who feels like they

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Speaker 4: have a real beat on this is just kind of guessing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm guessing he's going to be the Steelers starting

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Speaker 4: quarterback in September, but I feel pretty confident that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit more than a guess. But anything

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Speaker 4: other than that timeline and and contractual parameters and all that,

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Speaker 4: it's it's you're shooting in the dark because it's still

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Speaker 4: so much unknown.

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Speaker 2: West.

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Speaker 1: As always, thank you for the time. We look forward

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Speaker 1: to continuing to listen to you and Matt every day

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Speaker 1: on the Drive.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Tom, Take care dude.

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Speaker 1: Wes Euler co host of The Drive with Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: every day four to six on Steelers Nation Radio, part

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Speaker 1: of the Steelers Audio Network. When I come back, got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a World Baseball Classic thing I

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Speaker 1: want to get to, and then we'll get to some Penguins.

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Speaker 1: When the five o'clock hour kicks off, it's Tom Onfreman

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Speaker 1: in for Mark another hour here on WXDX. Tom Offerman

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Speaker 1: in for Mark Man today on the Mark Man Show.

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Speaker 1: I still can't believe Miami of.

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Speaker 2: Ohio lost today in the MAC Tournament.

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Speaker 1: After going thirty one and zero in the regular season

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Speaker 1: and they're one and done in the MAC and.

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Speaker 2: I think they shouldn't make the forty.

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Speaker 4: I have to do with that.

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Speaker 1: So they're one in in the postseason, thirty one to

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Speaker 1: oh regular season oh and one in the postseason. What

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Speaker 1: a what an epic disappointment from Miami of Ohio. Tmusa

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Speaker 1: Baseball was able to avoid epic disappointment though last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone out there really is a

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Speaker 1: fan of the World Baseball Classic. I'm mildly keeping an

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Speaker 1: eye on it right now through the group play, but

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Speaker 1: I think now once you get to those quarterfinal matchups

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Speaker 1: the tournament now starts, people will start to really pay

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Speaker 1: attention to it. But TMOSA almost didn't make it to

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Speaker 1: that tournament part the knockout stage, didn't almost didn't survive

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Speaker 1: their group, And honestly, that would have been hilarious because

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Speaker 1: they are, if not the favorite, one of the top

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Speaker 1: three teams between Japan and the Mininican Republic that should

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Speaker 1: win this tournament. So it would be a massive disappointment

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Speaker 1: to not even get out of group play. And you

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Speaker 1: got to see the humor in life, right, so it

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Speaker 1: would have been funny. But they survive thanks to Team Italy.

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Speaker 1: They take care of Mexico, so Italy advances as the

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Speaker 1: winner of Group B. In advances as the runner up

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Speaker 1: in Group B. Tmusa now takes on Canada tomorrow, so

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Speaker 1: that rivalry renewed in a different sport.

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Speaker 2: We beat him in hockey.

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Speaker 1: Will Canadians beat us in our sport now in the

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Speaker 1: quarterfinal round of the World Baseball Classic find out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But this whole debacle from their manager Mark de Rosa,

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Speaker 1: not knowing that they hadn't already clinched when he kind

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Speaker 1: of put the Sunday lineup out there, if you will,

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Speaker 1: for their final game of group play, which they lost

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Speaker 1: to Italy.

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Speaker 2: That all gets to.

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Speaker 1: Be ignored now, but I think it would have been

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Speaker 1: a lot more fun if we could have dug into

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Speaker 1: that more. And why is a studio analyst for the

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Speaker 1: MLB Network managing Team USA. I find that very bizarre.

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Speaker 1: The only time the Team USA has won a World

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Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, their manager was Jim Leland Enough said there

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Speaker 1: eight three three, four thirty nine. If you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that, you can the WBC again. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think there's many people that really care about it

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Speaker 1: right now, But I think that'll get ratcheted up starting

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night when Team USA takes on Canada in the

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Speaker 1: quarterfinal matchup.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into some Penguins talk when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Penguin's got a huge game against the Vegas Golden Nights tonight,

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Speaker 1: so don't really want to bury the lead there. We've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of Steelers talk so far today and

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Speaker 1: josh O we will join us a little bit later too,

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Speaker 1: So tons of Penguins talk coming for you in this

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Speaker 1: next hour. If you want to steal the conversation in

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Speaker 1: a different direction, though, feel free to call in eight

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Speaker 1: three three four one two ninety nine thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: It's Tom Afferman Infra mark Mann one oh five ninety

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Speaker 2: eight