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Speaker 4: Out a couple thirteen fourteen pastime, I'm calm. Or were

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Speaker 4: we on the air after Indiana just destroyed Oregon?

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Speaker 3: Or was that the Friday game? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The Foy's Day game was where my ole Miss club

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Speaker 4: lost to Miami ten beat six or whatever that Indiana

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Speaker 4: scrimmage pick six and they never looked out that they

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Speaker 4: won forty two fifteen or something. I mean, google them,

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Speaker 4: there's no need to anymore. He's a household name. I

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Speaker 4: think some of that has to do with I was

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Speaker 4: told Mark Cuban. Yes, maybe we did talk. I've mentioned

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Speaker 4: that to you before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I still don't understand all the rules

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Speaker 4: with booster money and nil and you know I know

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Speaker 4: that I don't think there is the thing. I think

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Speaker 4: it's like, isn't there a salary cap universities money that

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Speaker 4: they generate wherever they get that from boosters or ticket

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Speaker 4: sales or whatever, they can spend like twenty point five

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Speaker 4: twenty point five million across all the entire spectrum of

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Speaker 4: sports programs on player salaries. I read somewhere that for

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Speaker 4: the most part, give or take a percentage point, most

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Speaker 4: the Division I school seventy five percent of their money.

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Speaker 3: Is divvied up between the football.

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Speaker 4: Program and the men's basketball program, and then the peanuts

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Speaker 4: that are left the twenty five percent, which would be

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Speaker 4: what basically what five million dollars is spread out between

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Speaker 4: if you have a men's hockey program, a women's hockey program,

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Speaker 4: if a women's basketball crew, volleyball. I spent I put

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Speaker 4: a lot of money into the Minnesota go for a

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Speaker 4: fencing program. I hear that, and I'm gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: Fighting with an f P. Epp at B.

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Speaker 2: Even how to say it. I've only seen it written before.

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Speaker 3: It's I think it's a f P. I see it

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Speaker 3: in crossword puzzles.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's always in a crossrod puzzles.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know what the answer is. I don't

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Speaker 4: Cuban as I heard he was, he don'tated like five

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Speaker 4: or six million. Wasn't that chump change for him? Come on, dude,

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Speaker 4: let's roll out one hundred million. But I don't know

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Speaker 4: how much money they're allowed to and then if it ever,

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Speaker 4: it's just like there was a story and I.

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Speaker 3: The financial part of it.

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Speaker 4: I know it's important, tend to be And I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying I don't pay attention. I just find it harder

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Speaker 4: for me to understand. The story says it's an Associated

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Speaker 4: Press story. It says College Enforcement Group voices serious concerns

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Speaker 4: with spiraling transfer portal. This is all part of the

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Speaker 4: nil right, says a transfer portal spiraling out of control

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Speaker 4: prompted the new Regulatory Board for College sports to issue

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Speaker 4: being offered to players. The reminder, and that's in quotes

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Speaker 3: You say Oregon or Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I always said Oregon, But I feel like I'm switching

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Speaker 4: The reminder came about an hour before the kickoff of

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Speaker 4: that game that has shared headlines with news of players

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Speaker 3: So, in other.

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Speaker 4: Words, let's say you're going to go to a car

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Speaker 4: For that, you know, because you could say you could

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Speaker 3: Okay, what else do you have to do?

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Speaker 1: That's it one appearance. It's a good gig. If you

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Speaker 4: The CSC did not list examples of unapproved contracts, but

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Speaker 4: college football scene and sheriff seven figure deals luring players

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Speaker 4: to new school since the transfer portal opened on jan two.

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Speaker 4: Goes on to say, how about this one high profile

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Speaker 4: case involved Washington quarterback Demond Williams Junior, who initially sought

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Speaker 4: a reported deal worth four million with the Huskies. Legal

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Speaker 4: threats ensued, and Williams changed course and stayed at Washington.

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Speaker 4: THATSSCSC letter said making promises of third party NIEL money

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Speaker 4: now and figuring it out how to honor those promises

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Speaker 4: placed at risk. The Commission listed two rules about contracts

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Speaker 4: that evaluates, some of which have been termed agency agreement

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Speaker 4: even when they finally and I have always agreed, I

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Speaker 3: I know, a scholarship is a good deal, right, that's

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Speaker 2: To get, crisis.

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Speaker 4: For for a kid that is he's a starter, but

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Speaker 4: school has him, right, But if you're one of the

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Speaker 4: if you're Mendoza, doesn't he the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 3: Went from Indiana Scholarship.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you think of all the money

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Speaker 4: that's the university makes, and the networks and the NCAA

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Speaker 2: They're making more money off of him than he's making

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Speaker 3: And he's him. That's exactly right. So I was all

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's not like there was an easy

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Speaker 4: way to do it either. Well, here are the rules

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Speaker 3: And everywhere else.

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Speaker 4: So but even with that, now schools are still trying

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Speaker 4: to find ways around it. They're always looking for loopholes.

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Speaker 4: I guess we all are, right. You go to your

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Speaker 4: tax guy you want to you know, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I donated some clothing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, get a rite off of that. Now.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you might have some clothing you want to donate

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Speaker 4: and you don't think goodwill is valued at as much as.

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Speaker 3: They should, and you might want to take that clothing back.

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Speaker 3: But most cases you don't do that. So I don't know,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know where.

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Speaker 1: I still think there needs to be more rules and regulations.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for of them making as much money as

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Speaker 1: networks have gotten over the years and how rich the

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Speaker 1: universities have gotten over the years. Correct, But I also

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Speaker 1: don't think it's good for the sport when guys are

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Speaker 1: this is not just talking about football, some about other

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Speaker 1: a little bit, ye know, I go back to college basketball.

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Speaker 1: College basketball, the NCAA Tournament's still great, March Madness is

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Speaker 1: still great. But growing up in the nineties, you had

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Speaker 1: three four years, and you're building rivalries and it's Duke

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Speaker 1: to build up these rivalries against other schools. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to in five questions, but your guy

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Speaker 1: Deuce is probably devastated with his Nebraska quarterback leaving for Oregon.

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Speaker 1: It'd just be nice to have. I still think that

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Speaker 1: of Minnesota losing koy Perrich.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you, I don't. I am well,

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Speaker 4: we talked about it last week. This was a football player.

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Speaker 4: I think it's said. I remember he was playing for

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Speaker 4: the final four. I remember which what kid or what

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Speaker 4: it was like he was playing for his fourth school

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Speaker 3: Jumping, you know. And you know, he ain't doing a

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Speaker 3: for education purposes. Sorry, he's not.

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Speaker 4: He's doing it because he wants to try to play,

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Speaker 4: get more playing time, I try more to get track

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Speaker 4: Sunday someday.

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 4: Dylan Rayola, who originally had planned to go to.

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Speaker 3: I think I might have been one of the Florida schools.

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Speaker 4: But his dad, Dominic Rayola, who played for the Lions

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Speaker 4: I think it was I hadn't even been a center, guard, tackle,

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Speaker 4: And it was a coup for Nebraska, and he's played

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Speaker 4: Oregon's losing their quarterback, and so he's going there and

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Speaker 4: get to here.

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Speaker 3: Breaking news Tenney dateline Saint Louis.

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Speaker 4: The US figures team for the twenty twenty sixth win

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Speaker 4: Olympics was revealed. Well, was revealed yesterday, so that's not

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Speaker 4: competition at the Nationals. The roster, comprised of sixteen skaters.

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Speaker 4: Or several other names here. You know you would on

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Speaker 4: a programming predicament on Thursday'd asked me what would I

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Speaker 4: I watched his performance tend Toby. He's the only guy

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Speaker 1: Should the head coach have called the time? Like, there's

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Speaker 4: Or you could be a Bob's letter on the or

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Speaker 3: Did you see that story? It happened, Yeah, it happened.

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Speaker 4: Us bob'sutter Chris Horn survived solo ride in Saint Maurite's

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Speaker 3: You've got to be kidding me, Tim Reynolds writes the piece.

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Speaker 4: Chris Horn survived a frightening ride down the track in

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Speaker 4: He got in first, as is common in Bob's led,

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Speaker 4: As the sled skidded to a stop, some simply shook

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Speaker 3: Here's what's key.

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Speaker 4: I think Timmy Horn Comma, who start in Bob's sledding,

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Speaker 4: Waved to the nearby television cameras to show that he

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Speaker 4: There's one World Cup race weekend left before the US

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Speaker 4: Bob Sudon Skeleton picks its team for next month. Horne

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Speaker 4: of the men's bob sled drivers, along with Frank de

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Speaker 3: Supposed be four of you.

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Speaker 4: The other guys can't get in you look back, it's

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Speaker 1: So I didn't watch the entire race, but I've seen

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Speaker 4: But how about having the presence of mind when you

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Speaker 4: It's not like if the first one doesn't go, I

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is just the end and there's a wall

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a sport to me, and not to

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Speaker 4: I guess you might be, but it's like you're just

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Speaker 4: It looks like to me, it doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 4: I mean, there it seems like speaking of that, Lindsay

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Speaker 4: And then eventually you get to a speed where you

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Speaker 4: have to just let go you get killed.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think we called the hookie bookie or something, but

442
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Speaker 4: that just seems the things we did is we'll pause,

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Speaker 4: come back, one more segment to go. We'll talk a

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Speaker 4: little Viking football not the brightest of pictures either.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that. We'll do that next comment. I problem

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Speaker 3: on a van.

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Speaker 5: A couple thirteen fourteen past common Man programon common he

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Speaker 5: is tend to be a number of email or text

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Speaker 5: messages have come through on the branch on Brian Cafe

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Speaker 5: and text line.

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Speaker 4: Hooky bobbin. This is what a lot of people called it,

452
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Speaker 4: hooky bobbin. I thought it was hooky booky. That would

453
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Speaker 4: be somebody that takes bets on hockey. I guess hooky.

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Speaker 4: Some called it sketching. Others called it bumper skiing, some

455
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Speaker 4: called it bumper shining.

456
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Speaker 3: Others just called it sketching.

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Speaker 4: Mike and Saint Louis Park rights on the Bradshahn Braca excellent,

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Speaker 4: he says.

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Speaker 3: We used to call that sketching.

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Speaker 4: Once during the snore storm, we skitched behind the number

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Speaker 4: nine MTC bus from Cedar Lake Road in Louisiana all

462
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Speaker 4: the way downtown and played video games at Rifle Sport.

463
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Speaker 4: They took that ride all the way downtown.

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Speaker 3: That's just insane. By the way, I don't recommend anybody

465
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Speaker 3: doing this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: We just were bored. I had nothing better to do

467
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Speaker 4: with our with our time. This one says skitching. That's

468
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Speaker 4: what we called it growing up and Brighton. The worst

469
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Speaker 4: was when you hit the sewer cap and go flying. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 4: that what happened to a lot of danger. In it,

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Speaker 4: I mentioned the fisherrapp Factory west Side, or I mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Vikings and in the fisherrap Factory west side, Tennebe.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Kramer has a piece today the twelfth, and there was this.

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Speaker 4: Morning that was released at seven am.

475
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: Film review. Viking spending spree didn't go far with these

476
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five free agents.

477
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Speaker 4: How guard Will Fries and defensive alignement Jonathan Allen and

478
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Speaker 4: Javon Hargrave fared in their first season in Minnesota. Cramer

479
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Speaker 4: says all salary position rankings are via overthecap dot com.

480
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Speaker 4: It says many of the Vikings big free agent contracts

481
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Speaker 4: handed out during the March twenty twenty five spending spree

482
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Speaker 4: did not provide immediate return on investment. Below, we will

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Speaker 4: detail three of those players, guard Will Fries and defensive

484
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Speaker 4: tackles Jonathan Allen and j Javon Hargrave. Their fourth big

485
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Speaker 4: name free agents, enter Ryan Kelly played just eight games

486
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Speaker 4: because of three concussions and as we've talked about Tennebee.

487
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's made any decisions, certainly not publicly.

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Speaker 4: There has been no announcement that I'm aware of. Far

489
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Speaker 4: be it from me to give somebody advice, But I'd

490
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Speaker 4: say I'd hang up the cleats, you know. I mean

491
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: he had three just this year alone.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he came back though this season probably

493
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Speaker 1: could have hung it up. Then, Yeah, he still came back.

494
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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe he's not done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true. He might not be.

496
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Speaker 4: And he's had others too. This was not like his

497
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Speaker 4: first three. I think going into the season he'd had

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Speaker 4: two or three or four whatever, you know, documented ones,

499
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Speaker 4: and there's always the undocumented ones where when you were younger,

500
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Speaker 4: you know, when you were playing high school football, had

501
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Speaker 4: your bell rung, you may have had a concussion, didn't even.

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Speaker 3: Know it, just went right back into the game.

503
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Speaker 1: But even if he did want to come back for

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, can you bring him back? Yeah, I mean

505
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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't depend on him to start seventeen

506
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Speaker 1: games for you next year.

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Speaker 4: This for Will, Friz says, haven't seen the best of Will.

508
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Speaker 4: His twenty twenty five cap it was five point six

509
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Speaker 4: four million, fourteenth among NFL right guards. Twenty twenty five

510
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: cash was twenty two million dollars second. His contract is

511
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: for five years for a max of eighty seven point

512
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: seven million. Thirty four million of it is guaranteed satisfite

513
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: Fry suffering a broken leg in his fifth start for

514
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: the Colts in twenty twenty four, The Viking saw enough

515
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: to make him one of the highest paid guards last year.

516
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: He admitted the leg injury still affected his first Viking season.

517
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Speaker 4: He signed a five year deal with up to eighty

518
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Speaker 4: eight million in March, but couldn't practice fully until midway

519
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Speaker 4: through training camp. Fries played a team high nine hundred

520
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: and eighty nine offensive snaps in his seventeen starts at

521
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Speaker 4: right guard, taking pride and gutting through knee and calf

522
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: injuries to play every game, but he didn't bring that

523
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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl caliber play commensurate with his salary, especially struggled

524
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Speaker 4: in pass protection. The final tally is counted by Pro

525
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Speaker 4: Football Focus at Fries serrunning a team worst thirty seven

526
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Speaker 4: quarterback pressures this season. That's tied for fifty eighth of

527
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Speaker 4: sixty one NFL guards, and of course, as you know,

528
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Speaker 4: Cramer points out pressure gonna be a QB stat too,

529
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Speaker 4: if that young passer holds on the ball too long.

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Speaker 3: I think we saw that often with McCarthy and Brosmer.

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Speaker 4: They do think that Wes Phillips thinks the sky's the

532
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Speaker 4: limit for this kid. They're still really high on him,

533
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Speaker 4: so I think Fries is probably returning. Meanwhile, Jonathan Allen,

534
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: it says not great, not terrible. His cap hit was

535
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: six point four to two million, thirty fourth a month,

536
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: defensive tackles twenty twenty five cash sixteen point two million,

537
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Speaker 4: which was fifteenth His contract three years from acts of

538
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: fifty one million twenty three million was guaranteed.

539
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Speaker 3: Says the results. Once again, we're a top ten defense.

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Speaker 4: While the Vikings finished with the same number of sacks

541
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Speaker 4: as last season, they were better considering they faced the

542
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Speaker 4: NFL low four hundred and forty seven throws at the

543
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Speaker 4: league's second best sack rate. How much of Allen have

544
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Speaker 4: to do with that? Perhaps not as much as his

545
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: contract suggested. He played eight hundred and eleven defensive snaps seventy

546
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Speaker 4: five point eight percent, the most on the Vikings defensive line.

547
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: He returned to his durable standard at thirty years Old,

548
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: starting every game for the fourth time in his nine

549
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Speaker 4: year career, took frequent West front practice, did not appear

550
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: on the injury report a while. On the field, he

551
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: struggled to consistently disrupt or finish plays in the backfield.

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Speaker 4: Here's what he said himself. I'm not going to say

553
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: it's been great. I'm not going to say it's been terrible.

554
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Speaker 4: I think for me, it's just doing anything I can

555
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Speaker 4: to help this team play in the run, rushing the passer,

556
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Speaker 4: finishing on the quarterback. He finished fifth on the team

557
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Speaker 4: with thirty four quarterback pressures, time for twenty seventh among

558
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Speaker 4: NFL defensive tackles. The report tackling year for many on

559
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Speaker 4: the Bikings defense. Allen was had by Pro Football Focus

560
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Speaker 4: with the career worst eleven missed tackles.

561
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Speaker 3: And then finding the fit for Javon Hargrave.

562
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Speaker 4: Seven point eight eight million was his twenty twenty five cap,

563
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Speaker 4: twenty fifth among defensive tackles. Fifteen million was the cash

564
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Speaker 4: outlay in twenty twenty five. That's nineteenth two year deal,

565
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Speaker 4: thirty million, nineteen of it guaranteed. Said, like Alan, Hargrave

566
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Speaker 4: also struggled to finish lines behind the play. Hargrave finished

567
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Speaker 4: first reps only season of Minnesota three and a half sacks,

568
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Speaker 4: four tackles for loss. Hargravetiel reporters to ask coaches about

569
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Speaker 4: his lack of involvement. Flores' cited his health, but also

570
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Speaker 4: acknowledge that he wanted Hargrift to build on a strong

571
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Speaker 4: performance off his Week nine in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: You remain in the starting lineup, playing anywhere.

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Speaker 4: From thirty five percent over seventy percent of games, finished

574
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Speaker 4: at about fifty percent of the defensive snass for the club,

575
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Speaker 4: and again.

576
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Speaker 3: Not great.

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Speaker 4: And so the reason I bring all this up is because,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we know that line play on both offensive

579
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Speaker 4: the defense seemed to be the most important. If you

580
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: provide time for your quarterback to throw, most quarterbacks can carve,

581
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: but the defense receivers can get open finish their routes.

582
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Speaker 4: And if defensively you're putting all sorts of pressure on

583
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Speaker 4: a quarterback, particularly young quarterback. We've seen it here. Man,

584
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: it's the kids just lost. He's gonna get he's going

585
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: to get beat up. He's going to get a bad

586
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: case of the jitters, and it's not going to go well.

587
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 4: And you know, one of the when when you and

588
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: I throughout the season, we're talking about you know, and

589
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: we've talked about it forever and ever, you know, should

590
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: the Vikings they could have signed Sam Darnold to a

591
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: three year car or at least made him an offer

592
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: he made him wanted to go elsewhere. Anyways, I don't

593
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Speaker 4: know if he was if we had you know, first come,

594
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Speaker 4: first serve, or was he a complete free agent going

595
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 4: into last offseason. I don't remember, But anyway, the Vikings

596
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: decided they did not want to sign Sam Danny Dimes.

597
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Speaker 4: I think, as we found out through Seaffert's piece, he.

598
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Speaker 1: Was a free agent. But I think we could have

599
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Speaker 1: technically franchised him.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we could have franchised him, and I think

601
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Speaker 4: I I would think he would have if he would

602
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Speaker 4: have come back here.

603
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Speaker 3: I think I don't know, maybe he wouldn't have.

604
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Speaker 4: But that's never been publicly said by him or the

605
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: team or an agent or any sources that request that

606
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: had anonymity that Sam Darnold wasn't planning to come back

607
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: no matter what the Vikings offered. That was the case

608
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Speaker 4: with Danny Dimes. We learned from the Sefert piece last

609
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: week that they got I think the Vikings got kind

610
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: of thrown for a loop. They thought Danny Dimes of

611
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: State and he went elsewhere as we know, he went

612
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Speaker 4: to Baltimore, and.

613
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Speaker 3: Then they decided in Niapolis. I always want to say Baltimore.

614
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Speaker 4: I was thinking Colts, which like I keep saying the

615
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Speaker 4: Chargers of San Diego because I can't get it out

616
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Speaker 4: of my head. And then uh, Rogers apparently wanted to

617
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Speaker 4: play here and then he didn't want to. And for

618
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Speaker 4: those of us that I was all on, I thought

619
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Speaker 4: we should have resigned Darnal the Danny Dimes thing. I

620
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: just thought he decided to leave. I guess I would

621
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: have tried to keep him too, but they got it.

622
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: Sounds like they thought they had him and then they didn't.

623
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Speaker 4: And I wanted to sign Rogers, and you and I

624
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: talked about it. Part of it was just for the

625
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: storylines and how much fun it would be to watch

626
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: a rod, especially following in farest footsteps playing for green

627
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: Bay going to the Jets, coming to Minnesota, playing for

628
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: green Bay going to the Jets coming to Minnesota would

629
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Speaker 4: have just been a lot of fun, right and now, hindsight,

630
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: but mine wasn't hindsight, But hindsight, being twenty twenty, it

631
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Speaker 4: may have been a better way to.

632
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Speaker 2: Go because they'd been in the playoffs.

633
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: They'd been the playoffs.

634
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: McCarthy was injury riddled, had his moments, but he also

635
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: had some really bad moments too. But the comeback from

636
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: people to you and I tend to be a lot

637
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: of more. Well, he wouldn't have been able to get

638
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: the free agency signed well after these numbers. I just

639
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: read you and the trouble we had with our center

640
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: staying in the game because of concussion problems was that

641
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: money well spent doesn't seem like it.

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Speaker 1: And they're a older players too, so it's not like

643
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Speaker 1: you're gonna if your argument is that we're gonna have

644
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: these free agents for the next couple of years be

645
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: great for us, odds are you're not going to get

646
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Speaker 1: better right thee Yeah, but the other guys know they

647
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: don't like that. Can't depend on and then you know

648
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: the other the interior defensive linemen are they're up there

649
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: in age yep. Typically you guys don't take big jumps

650
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Speaker 1: at this point there.

651
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Speaker 4: Co Kramer said Hardgrave and possibly the only season with

652
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: the Bikings, so it maybe he's already heard something that

653
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: the Vikings are going in another direction.

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Speaker 3: There so.

655
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Speaker 4: And then that all goes back to the general manager.

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Speaker 4: But here's what again, I don't know, and I think

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Speaker 4: I told you. I texted liber a month ago, six

658
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Speaker 4: weeks ago, we texted, talked more than most people. When

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Speaker 4: it comes to the draft and the free agents and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Is it all the general manager? Is it all the

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Speaker 4: coach or combination? And he said, well, that's a combination certainly.

662
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Speaker 4: But he did say, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: the GM's the guy that's got the final say, and

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Speaker 4: he's responsible. But just because the guy is the final say,

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Speaker 4: like Tennaby, if you said to me, I guess, because

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Speaker 4: you know, if you suggested a guest to me, I guess,

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Speaker 4: I'm the final say, I could say I don't want him.

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Speaker 4: But if you suggested a guest and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I guess, that means the final word was on me.

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Speaker 4: But it was in concert with your decision as well.

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Speaker 4: So do I get the blame because I had the

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Speaker 4: final say and others? I'm trying to stick up for

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Speaker 4: Quazy just a little bit here, and I have really

674
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Speaker 4: no reason to, because certainly his drafts, the early ones. Particularly,

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Speaker 4: it looks like the Turner kid might be turning a corner.

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Speaker 3: Pard in the pun looks like he might be a player.

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Speaker 3: And who is the other guy? We kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks like you know, give him some time,

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Speaker 4: and he was a rookie.

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Speaker 3: He might end up being a really good football player.

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Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately McCarthy's going to be the main that's just.

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Speaker 3: For sure for sure. But again I go back to that,

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Speaker 3: I'm is that all on Quazy? You know?

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Speaker 2: I ultimately he makes the final.

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Speaker 3: Call, does but but.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Koc had a hand in. Hey, I like

688
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Speaker 1: this JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because let's say, let's say tend to be your

690
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Speaker 4: coach and I'm general manager, and you look at me

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Speaker 4: and you say I really like meat sauce.

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Speaker 3: Now that is scratch. I guess you wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 4: But let's just say you really like meat sauce and

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Speaker 4: I say, no, I don't want them.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go in a different direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, then is there a bit of do you as

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Speaker 4: a coach goes, well, okay, you have the right hand

698
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Speaker 4: and everything's fine, and you just you know, slap each

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Speaker 4: other on the back.

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Speaker 3: And move on or are you like, dude.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there's pushback, right, not only but not

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Speaker 2: only is this that's what they talked about.

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Speaker 3: But not only is there pushback.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is if you if I just

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Speaker 4: say I'm sorry, I'm going with a different guy, is

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Speaker 4: there a little bit of bitterness there? In a little

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Speaker 4: bit you got to chip on your shoulder and you're

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Speaker 4: not happy and it's gonna be hard to work going forward,

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Speaker 4: And then you.

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Speaker 3: Got some guy you didn't really want. You're going.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want this guy. I'm really not that thrilled

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Speaker 4: about investing my time and energy. And I guess I

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Speaker 4: got to it's my job, But.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sounds like you and I first got this producer.

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Speaker 4: Yes exactly, maybe even to this day.

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Speaker 3: But my point is, and I guess we'll never know.

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Speaker 3: I think it was. It was. It was just as

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Speaker 3: much Don O'Connell as it is on as it is

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Speaker 3: on The Gentleman.

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Speaker 1: Well and the rumors at the time where they they

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Speaker 1: gave New England a big offer to get that pick

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Speaker 1: to take Drake May, and I credit to New England

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Speaker 1: because the lot was offered him at that point at

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Speaker 1: that point, it looked like they had a lot more

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Speaker 1: needs than just quarterback, and they they stuck with it.

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Speaker 2: They drafted Drake may.

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Speaker 1: You do wonder what would have changed here, because at

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Speaker 1: the time it was a lot to give up, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was like three first round picks, maybe

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Speaker 1: more than that. But you look at it now, and

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Speaker 1: especially the way Quas has been drafting Home. Yeah, Drake

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Speaker 1: may I would have done that in a second here

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Speaker 1: with Drake may.

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Speaker 4: Or was the real key, not Drake may but Garrett Bradbury.

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Speaker 3: You watch him last night for New England. I don't

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Speaker 3: you know, I know we make fun of Warren all

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was saying he's called in his last

739
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Speaker 4: two or three calls, he's gone on and on about

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Speaker 4: Bradbury's the best, not only the best center in the league,

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Speaker 4: the best lineman in the league. What he said Pro

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Speaker 4: football focus, from what I understand, does great and really

743
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Speaker 4: highly Now I know here we watched him play when

744
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Speaker 4: he was with us. He seemed like he got tea

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Speaker 4: kettled all the time by those bigger interior linemen.

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Speaker 3: I watched the end.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't staring at Bradbury the entire game, and once

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Speaker 4: they got up sixteen three, I checked out.

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Speaker 3: Look like he was just fine in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the line.

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Speaker 2: Two things, okay.

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Speaker 1: One, I do find it hilarious that like three years ago,

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Speaker 1: Warren was calling in saying we need to move Gartt Bradbury.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and now he's complaining that we gave up

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Speaker 1: the best offensive lineman of foot even though he wanted

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Speaker 1: to move him to a different position three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Two. I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that the offensive line has an influence

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Speaker 1: on how a quarterback can play. But I also think

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Speaker 1: especially sacks a lot of times are a quarterback driven stats.

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Speaker 1: Yeap that all of a sudden, Drake may is a

762
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Speaker 1: little bit more mobile. When Garrett Bradbury had Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: here for all those years, and now he's got a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that can evade sacks a little bit and get

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Speaker 1: him releases the ball quicker doesn't take as many sacks.

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Speaker 1: It can make your offensive line look Your quarterback can

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Speaker 1: make your offensive line look better, is the point I'm making.

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Speaker 4: AI overview, I asked how good has Garrett Bradbury been

769
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Speaker 4: this season. Garrett Bradbury has had a very strong year,

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Speaker 4: with the New England Patriots, establishing himself as a top

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Speaker 4: tier center by allowing zero sacks committing no penalties, wow

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Speaker 4: entering earning high grades for his pass and run blocking,

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Speaker 4: especially considering his prior struggles with the Vikings, making him

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Speaker 4: a key part of the Patriots offensive line foundation. Highlights

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Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty five season elite pass protection. He

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Speaker 4: allowed zero sacks and was a leader in pass blocking efficiency,

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Speaker 4: ranking first in the NFL in some metrics. Early in

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Speaker 4: the season strong run blocker, Bradbury was instrumental in a

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Speaker 4: dominant rushing attack, showing excellent run blocking skills that were

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Speaker 4: a surprise to some, including me and you high grades.

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Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus gave him high grades, with one report

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Speaker 4: noting a ninety two point seven overall grade in a

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Speaker 4: preseason game in strong regular season metrics. In summary, Bradbury's

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Speaker 4: revitalized his career at the Patriots, proving to be a

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Speaker 4: crucial and highly effective player on their offensive line. Now,

786
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Speaker 4: in defense of the Vikings, he wasn't Bury when he

787
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Speaker 4: was here. It even said that in the AI overview,

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Speaker 4: you know that he struggled here if you remember the

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Speaker 4: head coach. As soon as the season was as soon

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Speaker 4: as they lost to the Rams the playoff game, he said,

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Speaker 4: we have to rebuild the center of our offensive line.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think there's any of us that had

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Speaker 4: any push even Warren. I don't think any of us

794
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Speaker 4: pushed back and said, now wait a minute, you might

795
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Speaker 4: want to take a closer look.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's coaching.

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Speaker 4: Like you say, quarterback can make a big difference, right

798
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Speaker 4: you get rid of the ball sooners on him, any sacks,

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Speaker 4: you know, schemes, everything, I mean, everything is different from

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Speaker 4: one but it's still at the end of the day,

801
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Speaker 4: is can you keep your guy off the quarterback and.

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Speaker 1: No sacks, no penalties, regardless of all the external factors.

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Speaker 2: You're having a great year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are having a great year. So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Good for Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Good for Garrett. Yeah, and uh well.

807
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Speaker 4: If you'll remember, remember we were watching the joint practice.

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Speaker 4: Was that two years ago or three years ago when

809
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 4: you saw you go, boy, did you.

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Speaker 3: Just see yeah and just destroy us? Just yeah, And

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Speaker 3: it was like.

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Speaker 1: And he always struggled against the bigger you know, when

813
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Speaker 1: we're playing Green Bay, it always struggle against their bigger

814
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Speaker 1: interior defensive Linean heres maybe the schedule he's had this

815
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Speaker 1: year has been more favorable in terms of I know,

816
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: they haven't played as many good teams this season. Maybe

817
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: he was getting fat and happy with his contract here,

818
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Speaker 1: and it was kind of a what's the word, what's

819
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: the phrase? I'm looking for? Not rude awakening, but wake

820
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: up call? Yeah, wake up call? Ye right, Maybe you

821
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: got the wake up call of oh, I got to

822
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: let go. I need to change my career around now,

823
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: or I'm not gonna be playing much longer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

825
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: So maybe he put some more effort into his training.

826
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Speaker 3: This one says you, stru I might have been cute,

827
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Speaker 3: but it ain't getting you into a bowl.

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Speaker 4: Ideally, McCarthy would have at least given us a real

829
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Speaker 4: feel where he's capable of. But unfortunately we'll probably less

830
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Speaker 4: certain about him than we were going into the season. Well,

831
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Speaker 4: we did kind of learn learn leaning on an untested

832
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Speaker 4: rookie quarterback as foolishness. Regardless of how much of a

833
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Speaker 4: genius you think you are, It won't matter one's b

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Speaker 4: flow leaves. I'll be done with the vikings. Take that

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Speaker 4: I alto, Yeah, there was that. If you'll remember when

836
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: you and I were saying we got to keep playing.

837
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Speaker 4: Wentz got a chance here. Of course, we didn't know

838
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: Wentz was basically had had the injuries the equivalent of

839
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Speaker 4: getting into a head on car collision, but at breakneck speeds.

840
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Speaker 4: But there were those that said, well, we know a

841
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: lot more. You know, we just got to turn it over.

842
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Speaker 3: To McCarthy and see if we've got anything there, which

843
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: we did after.

844
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Speaker 4: After we found out the extent of Wentz's injury, he

845
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: went on injured reserve for the year. The only problem

846
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: was McCarthy couldn't stay on the field either, So we

847
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Speaker 4: still don't know.

848
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: So that leads us into that Thanks.

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Speaker 4: For having me, Tennebob you as well. I enjoyed our

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Speaker 4: visit with you. Today we're back to amount one o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Nico med been show at nude Rosen joins us at two.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for spending part of your day with us. Stick

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Speaker 4: around Big Ticket j G their next year in the field.

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Speaker 4: God I got.

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Speaker 2: Good night and good night missus.

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Speaker 3: Calabashian.

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Speaker 1: Where have you wait?

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Speaker 3: Dot young Man?

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