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Speaker 2: I have an issue here that we're going to open

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Speaker 2: Stepping back for a second, you know, the Trump campaigns

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Speaker 2: and so on. We talk about draining the swamp. I

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Speaker 2: establishment in Washington, and those overall terms are true. It's

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Speaker 2: regard to what's in the best interests of the country or,

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Speaker 2: in the case of Wisconsin, the state. But that's in

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Speaker 2: the abstract. We're not talking about any specific examples, so

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Speaker 2: you can't see how it plays out. I've got one

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Speaker 2: here going on in Wisconsin that is a big development

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Speaker 2: today that we're going to dive into and dissect and

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Speaker 2: help you understand why government will often do things that

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Speaker 2: benefit a select group of people without doing much for

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Speaker 2: the entire state. It's a good example to walk through,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to get to it in just a moment. Here.

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Speaker 2: there's a I should always mention because people will listen

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Speaker 2: We're doing this podcast early in the afternoon on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Only moments ago, a big development occurred on the story

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Speaker 2: that I want to talk about the sponsor and that

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Speaker 2: the Republican chief sponsor in the State Assembly of a

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Speaker 2: bill to legalize online sports betting in Wisconsin is announcing

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Speaker 2: that there will not be a vote on the bill today.

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Speaker 2: After all, the bill was scheduled to be voted on

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Speaker 2: in the State Assembly this afternoon, and again I'm talking

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Now the State Senate has adjourned until next year,

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Speaker 2: so it would not become law until the Senate acts,

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Speaker 2: and that wasn't going to happen in order for you know,

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Speaker 2: HiT's get into basic civics. Order for a bill to

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Speaker 2: become a law has to pass the state Assembly, has

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Speaker 2: to pass the state Senate, and has to be signed

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Speaker 2: intact by the governor. The first step here is passage

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Speaker 2: in the state Assembly. It was expected to pass the

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Speaker 2: state Assembly today. In fact, the bill passed through an

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Speaker 2: Assembly committee unanimously. All the Republicans, that all the Democrats

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Speaker 2: at a committee voted for it. So why is it

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden being delayed. Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: about it, and I'm going to tell you about the issue.

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Speaker 2: And as they said, I think this is an excellent

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Speaker 2: case study in how insider ism and access and how

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Speaker 2: they're tied into campaign contributions really work. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I want to make it clear that I am not

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Speaker 2: opposed to online sports gambling. We now have legalized sports

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Speaker 2: gambling in Wisconsin for the first time. You have to

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Speaker 2: go to one of the Native American tribes that offers it,

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Speaker 2: and you have to do it in person on the premise.

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Speaker 2: In most other American states, you just do it at

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Speaker 2: home on an app. Every state, though, has different laws.

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Speaker 2: Sports gambling is neither illegal nor illegal in the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's not prohibited in the United States, but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean a state has to allow it, and thirty nine

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Speaker 2: states have legalized it in one form or another. Many

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Speaker 2: states have open competition, and among the big players are DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: Fan Duel, numerous others in which people have an app

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Speaker 2: on their phone or on their laptop or whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: and they can bet as much as they want. They

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Speaker 2: tax and there's records kept in the whole thing. Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: has never legalized sports gambling. It dates back to the

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Speaker 2: terrible compacts that Jim Doyle cut with the Indian Tribe

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Speaker 2: LIBS two decades ago. Those compacts said that nobody else

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Speaker 2: it seemingly was outlawed by federal law, except in a

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Speaker 2: the only entity that can offer legal gambling is the tribes.

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Speaker 2: It was a terrible selling out of Wisconsin, terrible, and

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Speaker 2: it was done in exchange for not much money. The

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Speaker 2: so they're already getting off easily. Secondly, because they're sovereign nations,

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Speaker 2: But the FEDS have said that in order to have

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Speaker 2: the gambling, you do have to cut a deal, make

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Speaker 2: a contract in other words, with the state in which

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Speaker 2: not require legislative approval, was a total giveaway to the tribes,

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Speaker 2: and we've seen the result of that for the last

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Speaker 2: twenty years. Okay, fast forward, and now the tribes want

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Speaker 2: to do sports gambling, which they have a right to

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Speaker 2: do under the compact. But there's nothing in these compacts

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Speaker 2: For instance, if you want to bet at Pottawatabe, you have,

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Speaker 2: i mean, any bettings you know, slot machines, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You have to go to Pottawatabe or Onneia and Green

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Speaker 2: go there, and the same is true with regard to

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Speaker 2: sports betting. That's what Doyle's Compact said. Any gambling that

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Speaker 2: you do, you have to do in the actual casino

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Speaker 2: on the tribal lad Well. Sports betting has exploded in

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Speaker 2: the United States, particularly people who like to bet one

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Speaker 2: minute before a game starts, or a live bets you know,

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Speaker 2: during a game, et cetera. Well, it's obviously Potawatamy and

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Speaker 2: Oneida and Ho Chunk are getting by the way. From

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Speaker 2: what I can tell, the money being bet on premise

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Speaker 2: in sports betting is off the charts there. But imagine

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Speaker 2: what it would be if everybody simply could do it

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Speaker 2: on an app on their phone, as you can do

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Speaker 2: in most other states. I would say my guess is

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Speaker 2: five hundred times more betting. That's my estimate. For one thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ask to go to. You

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Speaker 2: want to just go down to Potawatamee. That parking garage

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Speaker 2: gets more I swear every time I'm in it, it gets

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Speaker 2: more complicated. Some people say it's so simple, I'm apparently

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Speaker 2: of it, but it's just it just always see it's

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Speaker 2: the you know the term intuitive, it's counterintuitive. Like the

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Speaker 2: garage that's to me intuitive is the Mitchell Airport parking garage.

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Speaker 2: The way you turn just seems to be the way

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Speaker 2: that you the way that if they didn't have sime

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Speaker 2: you find your way out. It just seems like the

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Speaker 2: way that you get out makes sense. When I'm in

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Speaker 2: the potawaa garage, it never seems as though the way

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Speaker 2: actually do go. I agree what you clearly, clearly, but

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Speaker 2: that's the point. Many people who like to bet on

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Speaker 2: sports bet every day or the bet nine different times

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Speaker 2: keep going down there to do that. So understandably, Potawatamie,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a couple of there's several

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Speaker 2: smaller travel casinos around the state. I honestly don't know,

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Speaker 2: but the three giant operations in Wisconsin are Potawatami and

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Speaker 2: is near the Dells in Baraboo and then Oneida in

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Speaker 2: near Green Bay. They want to be able to have

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Speaker 2: betting via the app A bipartisan group of members of

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Speaker 2: the state legislature have proposed to allow them to do this.

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Speaker 2: When I say bipartisans in the bill has an equal

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Speaker 2: and the Senate. The legislation, as proposed, grants these tribes

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Speaker 2: a total monopoly. No outside company could come into Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: and offer sports betting. The big one in the United

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Speaker 2: States right now is Draft Kings. There's a Zilium a

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Speaker 2: DraftKings I believe, who handles the most sports bets in

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Speaker 2: the United States. They would not be allowed to come

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Speaker 2: have fantasy and so on, but they don't have legal

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Speaker 2: sports gambling. Nobody else would be able to come in

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Speaker 2: So in exchange for this, what are the tribes giving

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin nothing? The deal is a total giveaway to the tribes.

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Speaker 2: This is the exact opposite of the art of the deal.

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Speaker 2: This is the art of the whore. The Pottawatabes want something,

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Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. The o Knight has won something,

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Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. The ho Chunk won something,

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Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. Nothing in return for the

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Speaker 2: rest of us. Now, why would members of both parties

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Speaker 2: want to do this. Here's why. The Democrats have been

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Speaker 2: why Doyle did the compacts twenty years ago, and for

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Speaker 2: the remainder of Doyle's term, the Potta Wannabes dumped to

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Speaker 2: fortune in the Democratic campaigns in Wisconsin. All Right, Walker

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Speaker 2: build a big casino in Wisconsin. The Menominees wanted to

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Speaker 2: build a casino near Kenosha, partnering with the hard Rock operation.

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Speaker 2: The hard Rock is owned by the Seminole Tribe of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Hard Rock is a tribal company, but it's not a

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Speaker 2: tribe from Wisconsin. But it's a huge national gambling operation

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Speaker 2: Casinos is a separate ending and it's owned by the Seminoles.

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Speaker 2: The tribe, particularly the Potawatabes here in Milwaukee, opposed this. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know why they opposed it. They're the only casino

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Speaker 2: they didn't want one in Kudosha. It's Scott Walker rolled

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Speaker 2: over and opposed it. So the tribes they're now giving

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Speaker 2: online sports betting. Who are the tribes going to give

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Speaker 2: only the Democrats. The Republicans don't want to have the

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Speaker 2: give the tribes exactly what they want until today where

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Speaker 2: potential gambling companies like DraftKings and so on. If they

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Speaker 2: no way in which anybody else can ever come in.

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Speaker 2: So Draft Kids just goes away and they have no

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Speaker 2: other side. There are a number of industries and a

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Speaker 2: number of issues in which this plays out. I've talked,

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Speaker 2: for example, about the roadbuilders and their cloud in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: There's no real lobbying group that opposes what the road

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Speaker 2: builders want. There's just the road buildings, and they dump

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Speaker 2: their money. On many issues, there's people on this side

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Speaker 2: they both have big money, special interest money and so

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Speaker 2: you continue to have your monopolies on the casinos. Nobody

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Speaker 2: But DraftKings and Fan Duel and Caesars and all the

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Speaker 2: The members of the Pottawatamie tribe which is a small

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Speaker 2: raw politicians. So why did this thing get delayed. It

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Speaker 2: For some of these proposition bets, the spread is even greater.

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Speaker 2: junks want this? Why would anybody in Wisconsin want it? Now?

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Speaker 2: The answer partly would be what people who want to

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Tyler would say, Why don't you

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Speaker 2: Both sides were trying to get the pay rais. Nobody

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Speaker 2: I am open to supporting an online sports betting bill

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Speaker 2: that is better than this putrid giveaway to the tribes.

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Speaker 2: By the way the sponsors of the bill, I'll show

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Speaker 2: It gives money to anybody that will do their bidding

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Speaker 2: That's Kaelon Heywood Junior, the son of Keilon Heywood Senior.

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Speaker 2: He's the developer that has been amenmeshed in controversy for

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Speaker 2: What a surprise. Like father, like Sun Dolman, Anderson, Banky, Green, Gustavsen, Kurtz,

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Speaker 2: gets the their beekqut on this thing. But as I say,

428
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: something happened in which the Republicans control the Assembly, so

429
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: they determine whether or not a bill can be called

430
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: for a voter or not. Something happened in which Tyler

431
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: August either didn't have support to get the bill passed

432
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: or he heard from enough members of the Assembly who

433
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: at least want to improve this bill. And I suspect

434
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: it's because the only voices that are representing the whole

435
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: remaining five million people of the state either do a

436
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: talk radio or do a podcast. You can take this

437
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: example that we used on this and compare it to

438
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: any number of other issues that are out there. There

439
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: was another bill that was considered several months ago that

440
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: is also so far not passed. It was the bill

441
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: that would give the Wisconsin Utilities a monopoly to build

442
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: all the power lines in the state. And building power

443
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: lines is unbelievably lucrative, and with AI coming in, there

444
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: are going to be a lot more power lines and

445
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: so on. In that instance, though, there was an opposition.

446
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: All the companies that aren't Wisconsin Utilities opposed the bill.

447
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: I opposed the bill. I don't like them. In some instances,

448
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: you have to have a monopoly. It's not practical for

449
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: a thing not to be a monopoly. Electricity is an

450
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: example of that. We still require electricity to be delivered

451
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: by power line. Well, you can't have ninety million different

452
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: companies with power lines that are in there. There's really

453
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: no way around it. Initially cable television was like that

454
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: when the cable had to come in via a wire.

455
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: But once satellite distribution came in and now Wi Fi

456
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: where anybody can get it, you don't need a monopoly anymore.

457
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: But obviously, in some instances monopolies are necessary. By and large,

458
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: they're bad. Competition in the free market is good. The

459
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: people who like monopolies are Marxists, which is why I

460
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: suspect that the Democrats have been in on this in

461
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: the beginning. But the biggest reason that they've been on

462
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: is they you sold themselves out in exchange for campaign money.

463
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: Doyle was the primary was the first whore with regard

464
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: to hoaring out to the tribes, and now just about

465
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: everybody else is hoaring out as well. But obviously we've

466
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: managed to stop this. I'm the anti horror here. Dan

467
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: and Vicki were involved in this as well. I'm on

468
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: the non horring side of this. Let me move on

469
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: to another story. This is another interesting story that's going on.

470
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: It's been behind the scenes and it's now percolating to

471
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: the front of the scenes. As you may know, there's

472
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: been a group that's formed here in southeastern Wisconsin to

473
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: oppose reckless driving. The reckless driving is not the reckless

474
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: driving that we're used to of you know, somebody, we

475
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: you know, et cetera. It's the people that are driving

476
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: in the city of Milwaukee and so one going ninety

477
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: five miles an hour in city streets, blowing through stop

478
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: signs at all of that. Well, a coal ash it

479
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: has been formed that is opposed to it, and one

480
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: of the things that it's been wanting to do is

481
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: encourage prosecutors to actually follow through on criminal charges rather

482
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: than have these things reduced to citations. The group is

483
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: called Enough is Enough, and they're pressing, in particular, the

484
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: Milwaukee County District Attorney's office to be more aggressive in

485
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: the handling of these cases. Guess who doesn't like this?

486
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Who wouldn't like that? Why are you idiot? God? This

487
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: is the simplest question I'm going to ask. Who wouldn't

488
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: like cracking down on people that are driving recklessly? Reckless drivers?

489
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: An there's no association of reckless drivers out there, so

490
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: who would speak in their behalf? The State Public Defenders Association,

491
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: the State Office of Public Defender in the state of Wisconsin,

492
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: is objecting to communication that's gone on with the Milwaukee

493
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: County DA's office and this group. Enough is enough and

494
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: their suggest that this is inappropriate that the DA's office

495
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: is listening to this group. First of all, this is insane.

496
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with the DA listen to anybody. The

497
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: DA listens to adversy group advocacy, people that are against

498
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: child abuse, people that are against domestic violence, people that

499
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: are against drug abuse, and there's groups that deal with

500
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: all sorts of things, and they communicate with prosecutors' offices

501
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: all over the country all the time. It doesn't mean

502
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: that the prosecutor is going to do what they want.

503
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: In each of these instances, mothers against drunk driving, for example,

504
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: they demand the tougher drunk driving laws. The prosecutors have

505
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: talked to those people all the time, and in many

506
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: big counties in the United States they talk to the

507
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: lefties all the time as well. The alternatives to incarceration cash,

508
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: no cash, bail, etc. Well, the public defenders don't like

509
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: the nocean that we might actually cracked out of people

510
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: doing is so they are objecting to the DA's office

511
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: even meeting with this group. Bob Donovan, Republican member of

512
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: the State Assembly, a portion of is this that concludes

513
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: the city of Milwaukee. He's outing them on this in

514
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: blasting the public defenders for objecting to this group having

515
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: communication with the District Attorney's office. I think what needs

516
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: to happen here is the public defenders need to understand

517
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 2: their role. The role of the public defender is to

518
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: represent at prial. It is not to advocate for the

519
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: rights of people to be able to break the law

520
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: before they're arrested. I acknowledge somebody's arrested for murder, they

521
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: have a right to a lawyer. Supreme Courts made a

522
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: clar you have a right to a lawyer, and if

523
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: you're an idiot, you have a right to be your

524
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: own lawyer. Like Daryl Brooks. If I was ever accused

525
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: of something, you think i'd make You think I'd make

526
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: a good lawyer. If I represented myself, think I would.

527
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: They always say a man who represents himself as a

528
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: fool for a client, that's an old, old sing well

529
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: isn't a good One of the reasons it's not a

530
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: good idea is see, I'll give you the one reason

531
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: it is a good idea. You cannot compel someone to

532
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: testify in their own defense, but if you represent yourself

533
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: you can. Kind of that's a Brooks who was stupid.

534
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: If Brooks wasn't he was trying to get his defense

535
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: in without having to testify, because when you're testify you

536
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: can be cross examined. So he was trying to by

537
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: the he was stupid and didn't know how to do

538
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: it anyway. The public defenders are objecting to people that

539
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: are advocating to not have reckless driving. That's not their role.

540
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Their role is when somebody is arrested for reckless driving,

541
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: once they get into the legal system, to represent them,

542
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: but not to in advance a Poe is cracking down

543
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: on this. That's not a criminal defendant. That's talking about

544
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: the approach that we have to the laws in our society.

545
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Semi related, it's more than semi related. Here's an interesting

546
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: We have high speed chases all the time, I mean

547
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: all the time. This one occurred a few days ago

548
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: in West Alice. It's worth diving into. By the way,

549
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: the uh you could always tell when something is done

550
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: by AI. Fox six uses AI to do the summaries

551
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: of their news stories, and then usually reporter writes the

552
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: story that they post online, but the summary as comes

553
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: from AI. You know, I could tell that this is

554
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: done by AI. You know how they spell West Alice.

555
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: First of all, wes is we s t This is

556
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: how they spell Alice Alice. Now I'm guessing there's no

557
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: actual reporter at Fox six. That's that stupid right. No,

558
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: in fact, in the actual story they spell it correctly.

559
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: This is the summary that you find online that's generated

560
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: by AI. Post is he hates A. I will say

561
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: this when I Google something and AI AI, they'll get

562
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable, how good it is. It's better usually than

563
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: they bring it. Now again, everything at Google is has

564
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: always been AI. There's not like somebody, Okay, I want

565
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: to know something about who won the soccer games in

566
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: France today. It's not like some guy did that. It's

567
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: always been a computer model and so on. Anyway, West

568
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: Alice Police we're involved in a high speed chase for

569
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: the guy who has later been learned to be a

570
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: fedadol dealer. Here's how the story came about. The authorities

571
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: responded to on November thirteenth. Now again we're doing the

572
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: podcast in the nineties. This is on Thursday of last

573
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: week to a home. You're seventy fourth and Walker in

574
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: West Alice. There was an od death. Thirty year old guy.

575
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Excuse me, forty year old guy died of an overdose.

576
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: It was fetanol. Sadly, this happens all the time. It

577
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: looks like it's down somewhat this year, which is good. Anyway,

578
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: they found a woman on the and they also they

579
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: found scales and all of the other stuff. The investigators

580
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: questioned the woman, who was a longtime girlfriend, and she

581
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: gave up the name of the dealer. Pretty good casework.

582
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: You certainly can prosecute the person who gives somebody if

583
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 2: you know two people are doing fetanyl. The person who's

584
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: doing it with you can be criminally charged, and you've

585
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: got that leverage on them, and it can often be

586
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: in their interest to give up the dealer, because I

587
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: think the authorities would rather get the dealer than give

588
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: the person who simply was doing the fed at all.

589
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: With the person who overdosed. She gives up the dealer,

590
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: so the authorities go to sit on his home. His

591
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: name is Duquean. Walton police, through their undercover operation, arranged

592
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: a controlled buy. A controlled buy is essentially a sting.

593
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: All right, we know somebody's a drug dealer. We need

594
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: somebody to pose as the person who's going to buy

595
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: the drugs. They did this at thirty ninth in National

596
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: Walton showed up, he spotted what was going on, and fled.

597
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Chase ensues. It's apparently a seven minute chase and seven

598
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: minutes going high speeds on city streets. That's actually longer

599
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: than you think. Very very dangerous according to the authorities.

600
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: They could see him and you'd say, why would you

601
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: run here? See, Paul's stupid when it comes to things

602
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: like this. You have a cop in your family, though,

603
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: I think that this should make you smarter. Why would

604
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: somebody who's showing up for a fenenol's thing run there

605
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: you go, they have fentanyl with them, So what do

606
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: they do when they're running? Throw it out the window.

607
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Watch any of these videos, they've thrown it out the wind,

608
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: throw it out the window. Of course, this is where

609
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: it's so great that there's dash cams on now almost

610
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: every squad car, so they see him throwing the stuff

611
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: out the window, throwing the stuff out the window. When

612
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: they finally pull him over, he admits they're doing all

613
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: the driving and all of this stuff, et cetera. But no,

614
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: I never had any drugs because he was throwing it

615
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: out the window. They said cash bond at fifteen thousand dollars.

616
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: I don't think that's enough. I don't know. He was

617
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: only charged yesterday. I don't know if he's posted it

618
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: and he's out or not. Again. Much of the reckless

619
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: driving is this, So when you'd have an advocacy group,

620
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna come in and say, okay, in addition to

621
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: the fact that the guy you're pretty much having dead

622
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: to right stealing fentandyl, don't just dismiss the reckless driving

623
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: part of this. Onto the sentence when you convict him,

624
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: or let's imagine you can't make the drug case sticks

625
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: somehow the woman who said he's our dealer, she doesn't

626
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: cooperate anymore. And I'm not saying this will happen or

627
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: they can't prove that he need to have the FEN

628
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: at all. Well, you have the reckless driving, you have

629
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: the fact that he ran off of this. Give him

630
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: five years in prison for that. That's what these people

631
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: have been urging be done. And there's nothing wrong with

632
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: them talking to the da in the same way that

633
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: if the da IS can't love her, now gets on

634
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: the phone and I want to talk to him and say,

635
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: can I think we ought to crack down this? I

636
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: haven't that right as a citizen as well public image,

637
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to do that. The only time

638
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: lefties think you shouldn't be able to lobby the government

639
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: is when you lobby from the perspective of a conservative.

640
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: They think any kind of pressure illegal, burn things down,

641
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Speaker 2: attack people. Lefties can do anything, and TIFA, the Marxists,

642
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: they can do any of the palest anything they want.

643
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Anybody on the conservative side, ever, even like speaks out

644
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: or your turning put form a few chapters. You need

645
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: to be killed. Aren't you learning things by listening to me?

646
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: Very instructive program here so far today? See, I could

647
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: never be allowed to teach like this. The kids could come,

648
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Speaker 2: Oh we have a teacher. He's a raving maniac. He's

649
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: this old man yelling and screaming at us, and they

650
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Speaker 2: becoming he's yelling, he's making them uncomfortable. My little kid

651
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: had his cell phone here when he took a hammer

652
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Speaker 2: and smashed the thing. Oh would I wouldn't it be

653
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: great if you could like go be a teacher, just

654
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Speaker 2: to be like a dink teacher for like two days,

655
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: smash all the cell phones in you know, if some

656
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Speaker 2: kid is acting up and beating up, being a bully

657
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Speaker 2: to another kid, being able to crack the kid and

658
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: all the things that you can't do or be a teacher.

659
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: And you see a lefty teacher sitting in the faculty

660
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: loud and loud. You just by mistakes or to spill

661
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: your coffee all over the left en right, Yeah, yeah,

662
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: wear the meg of cap in the class while you're

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Speaker 2: teaching again. Then I gotta let you do it by

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Speaker 2: be able to do it. As long as you did it,

665
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: it's clearly time to take a break on the Mark

666
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Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. All right,

667
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: this whole issue now of affordability. First of all, the

668
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: lefties had no concern about affordability at all when Joe

669
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Biden was making everything unaffordable. But it's now the thing

670
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: that they're running on. See. Trump's had all these successes

671
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: in all of these different areas, so they need to

672
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: change the subject, and affordability is becoming the platform that

673
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: they are suddenly running on. Fair enough, affordability is an

674
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: issue in America. The question that we have to ask

675
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Speaker 2: is how did things become so unaffordable, particularly in the

676
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Speaker 2: big cities where the cost of living is extreme. Very

677
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Speaker 2: good column on this issue by William mcgirrin and The

678
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal. I'd summarize this point, but he opens

679
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: the column pretty good and it's a summary in and

680
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: of itself, so I'll share it. He writes in his

681
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight book The Joys of Yiddish, I got

682
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: to admit I've never read that Joys of Yiddish. Yiddish

683
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: is like, it's like an language that Jewish people speak,

684
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Speaker 2: but it's not an official language, you know, Yiddish. The

685
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: joys of Yiddish. Leo Rastin defines hutzba this way, so

686
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, hutsma is an example of Yiddich. Hutzpa is

687
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: like gaul, but gall and like a gallin, like a

688
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: more brazen type of gall and a sort of humorous

689
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Speaker 2: gall in. Fact, so much gall that it's over the top,

690
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: that you kind of make a farce of yourself. That's hutzba,

691
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: This defiance hutzba. That quality enshrined in a man who,

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Speaker 2: having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the

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Speaker 2: mercy of the court because he's an orphan, saying's been

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Speaker 2: out there a long time, probably because this guy came

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Speaker 2: up with that of the book. Judge, you can't do

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Speaker 2: anything to me for killing my mother and father, after all,

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Speaker 2: I'm an orphan. Say you get it the answer mcgern

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Speaker 2: is going with regard to the Democrats, saying, let us

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Speaker 2: take care of affordability. Today in Washington we have a

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Speaker 2: new example. It comes in the form of Democrats who

701
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: have spent years making life more expensive for Americans and

702
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: who have now proposed fixes that reflect the same government

703
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: first thinking that made things unaffordable in the first place.

704
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: Does anyone really believe that the answer to what ails

705
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: us is more government spending or yet another government program.

706
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: Let me interjeck. In fact, the people that are biting

707
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: on this think yes. The people that are embracing socialism

708
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: and want the government to give them all of these

709
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: things somehow think that's the answer, even though this is

710
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: what's created the problem. Now, rather than going to the

711
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: entire column, I'll give you my example. You let ten

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00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: million illegal immigrants to come into the country, what do

713
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Speaker 2: you think is going to happen in regard to affordability?

714
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: Look at the pressure on housing, the pressure on food,

715
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: and the pressure this more or demand without any type

716
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: of increase in supply just one example. You can come

717
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: up with numerous other examples of how government mandating red

718
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: tape and regulations and so on drives up the price

719
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Speaker 2: or the cost of offering a product or a service

720
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Speaker 2: because you've got to hire all of the people to

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Speaker 2: do all of the Another one would be DEI. You're

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00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: hiring all of these people that do DEI that has

723
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: nothing to do with actually providing the service. The company

724
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: that makes the canop pies is all these DEI people

725
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: in there. Well, they have to pay all of them.

726
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: That means the peas will cost more. Numerous examples of

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00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: this property taxes. Why is rent so high? Well, one

728
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: of the reasons red has to be high is because

729
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: the landlords have to pay obscenely high property taxes. You're

730
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Speaker 2: getting you're in the rental business to make money, so

731
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: you have to charge more for rent than all of

732
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Speaker 2: your costs are. So when you put in a free

733
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Speaker 2: trolley and the city has to subsidize it, the property

734
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Speaker 2: taxes go up, and that makes the cost of the

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Speaker 2: rent go up. The point that mcgerrn is making here

736
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Speaker 2: is that the Marxists who think that they can propose

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Speaker 2: the answer to affordability by making things free and having

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Speaker 2: government give them away, ignore the fact that that simply

739
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: raises all of the costs, and you can't make things

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Speaker 2: free to get your what they need to summarize this

741
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: into a pithy statement, Well, the Margaret Thatcher statement, which

742
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: I could earlier the week of the podcast still holds.

743
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

744
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: And that's the problem. All these things that are free,

745
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: somebody else is still paying for and you haven't done

746
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: anything to actually make it cheaper. You're just forcing the

747
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Speaker 2: price to go up on everything else in order to

748
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Speaker 2: make this one thing over here free. But everything can't

749
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: be free. Somebody has to make it, somebody has to

750
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: provide it, and somebody has to pay for it. And

751
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: to the extent that you keep making them pay more

752
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: and more and more, they'll stop doing it. The problem

753
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: with any argument against welfare, socialism, Marxism, and I've explained

754
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: this many years, it's the whole bumper sticker mentality of

755
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: the left. In order to argue against socialism and Marxism,

756
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: you have to explain why it doesn't work. But turn

757
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: around and simply say rent should be free without defending it.

758
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: Put it on the bumper stick rum. I'm not he

759
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna make rent free, We're gonna make this free. Well,

760
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: people are going to vote for that unless they realize

761
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: that it not only isn't going to work, it's gonna

762
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: make everything worse. But that's where the explanation comes in.

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Speaker 2: This is why the left increasingly feels the need to

764
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Speaker 2: murder those of us on the right, because those of

765
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: us on the right, like Charlie Kirk, we're explaining why

766
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: this stuff doesn't work, or where they scream and shout down,

767
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: or they claim you don't have a right to exist,

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Speaker 2: you don't have a right to be here, you don't

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00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: have a right to say that. Those of us on

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00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: the right have the power of reasoning and persuasion. What

771
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: the people on the left have is demagogery and a

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Speaker 2: lust for power. Because they can't win any of these arguments,

773
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Speaker 2: they're now resorting to killing those who make them. The

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Speaker 2: whole illegal immigration question is a perfect example of this.

775
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Speaker 2: We're going to move to that point in a moment

776
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Speaker 2: here and also focus on and I'm a champion, I'm

777
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: a fan of legal immigration, but some of the legal

778
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: immigration that we have in the United States is mimicking

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Speaker 2: that of Europe, which has been a disaster. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: explain why before we get to that. In fact, let's

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Speaker 2: do it now. Run de Santus is term limited. He's

782
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Speaker 2: going to he can't run for another term as governor Florida,

783
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Speaker 2: so it'll be out of a job as of January

784
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: of twenty seven. He's obviously on the outs with Trump,

785
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: but he's starting to raise an issue in some speeches

786
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Speaker 2: that I think are going to resonate with a lot

787
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: of Republicans he seems to me to be running to

788
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: the right of trump advance on immigration. Now, the lefties

789
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: out there can't believe that that's possible because they can't

790
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: stand ice that can't stand that you're throwing anybody out

791
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Speaker 2: of the country. Desantus is targeting not only illegal immigration,

792
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Speaker 2: but legal immigration. Now, I think the issue of legal

793
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: immigration is much more complicated than that. I generally support

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00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: legal immigration, but this resettlement of refugees that's going on,

795
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Speaker 2: which is legal immigration, is problematic. I'm going to read,

796
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: first of all, what DeSantis is saying about this quote.

797
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: Illegal immigration is bad. Legal immigration, no matter what is good.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, bringing ten million people from Somalia and

799
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: dumping them into Georgia is good just because it's legal.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to think critically about what we're

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Speaker 2: doing with immigration policy. Is it benefiting the American people?

802
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Is it helping to promote a strong American culture. We

803
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: should never bring people into this country who hate America.

804
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: Don't do what Europe did. Your pursued mass migration. It

805
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: was legal, it was intentional, and it's turned out to

806
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: be disastrous. Now I'm going to get into the implications

807
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: of Dissanta's raising this issue in a moment, but first

808
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: I want to deal with it on the substance some

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00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: of the resettlement of migrants, whether they be Somali, some

810
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: other parts of Africa, Muslims in the Middle East, all

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Speaker 2: of the programs that have been going on in Europe

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Speaker 2: and to a lesser extent but still widespread here in

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Speaker 2: the United States. It is different than the type of

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Speaker 2: legal immigration that we've had from the beginning of our

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Speaker 2: country and before the beginning of our country. Other than

816
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Speaker 2: the Native Americans we call American Indians, everybody is a migrant.

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Speaker 2: But throughout the course of our history, those people who

818
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: migrated here came here because they wanted to be Americans.

819
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Speaker 2: The immigrants who came to the United States from France

820
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: and Germany and Italy named the countries throughout time, we're

821
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: coming here because they wanted to be Americans, and they

822
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Speaker 2: loved what America represented. They wanted to be part of

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Speaker 2: the culture and the rules and the lifestyle that we

824
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: have here. What has happened with illegal immigration and with

825
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: resettlement of migrants is you have people that are coming

826
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Speaker 2: here who hate the United States and what it stands

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Speaker 2: for and want to change it. This is the thing

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Speaker 2: that's tearing apart Europe where there's been you know, Europe

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Speaker 2: has had this general culture of openness, do what you

830
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Speaker 2: want and so on, and Muslims come in who believe

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Speaker 2: in Shariah law and are very very intolerant, and now

832
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Speaker 2: many of the people in Europe say, we don't recognize

833
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Speaker 2: our countries anymore. There are people are setting to Irving, Texas.

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Speaker 2: It's a suburb of Dallas. It has a massive Muslim population.

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Speaker 2: They have two Shariah law courts there. They're not official,

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Speaker 2: they're not part of our government, but Muslims are enforcing

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Speaker 2: Sharia law against fellow Muslims in Irving, Texas. Shariah law

838
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: can include shopping hands, any number of things. You saw

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Speaker 2: with the illegal immigrants. They were coming to the United

840
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Speaker 2: States and burn the American flag. Again, very very unusual. Okay,

841
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Speaker 2: I hate America, Well then why the hell are you

842
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: coming here? Imagine if you're going on vacation, I hate

843
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Well, then why do you come to Las Vegas?

844
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Speaker 2: Presumably you wouldn't go to a place that you hate.

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Speaker 2: What we're seeing with mass settlement of people that are

846
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Speaker 2: coming here just because they were starving to death in

847
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Speaker 2: the country that they were in. They weren't rejecting the

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Speaker 2: toxic values from those nations that they want to take

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Speaker 2: those values and displace the values that have been in

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Speaker 2: existence here. And then they expect everybody in America who's

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Speaker 2: believed American values forever and ever and ever that we've

852
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: been part of, we have to give up our values

853
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: and instead accept the values of the people that are

854
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: coming in here. And de sad Is his point is

855
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: is that if you're not coming here because you want

856
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: to be American and want to support what we stand for,

857
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: you're probably not going to assimilate. Well. In fact, there's

858
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: been a desire almost to not assimilate most of the

859
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: ethnic groups that have come to the United States legally assimilated.

860
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: For example, Italians. Italian Americans are very very proud of

861
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: their Italian heritage, but they're Italian Americans. They're very very

862
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 2: patriotic German Americans the same thing almost every other group

863
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: that you mentioned. Their ethnicity is something in which they

864
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: still respect their culture, the lifestyle, the cuisine, hang around

865
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: palorand together and so on. But they're here to be

866
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: Americans and they believe in what America has represented. Much

867
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: of The problem, in my opinion, with some of the

868
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: migrants that are coming into this country is that they

869
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: are members of the most intolerant religion on the planet,

870
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: which is Islam. Some Muslims are somewhat tolerant, but the

871
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: majority of them are intolerant. And then there's the number

872
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: of people that are not only intolerant that they believe

873
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: in jahad. They believe that if you're not a Muslim,

874
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: you should die well. Inviting them to come in legally,

875
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: it seems to me is not particularly smart. And you've

876
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: seen YOUU have suffer over this. Anyway, let me get

877
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: out of the political part of the equation in this.

878
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: Dsanas is suddenly on this piece here that appeared in

879
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: the American Conservative. They're suggesting that Disantas is planning to

880
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: run for president in twenty eight and run against Vance.

881
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: Most people believe, and again we're about a year away

882
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: from this developing. Most people believe that Dvance and Rubio

883
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: will run as a ticket. The Advance and Rubio know

884
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: that running against one another is mutually assured destruction, and

885
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: the Advance and Rubio will cut a deal in which Van,

886
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: since he's the vice president, runs first. He runs as

887
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: the president, Rubio runs is the vice president. Whether that

888
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: happens or not, we don't know. But the suggestion in

889
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: this piece in The American Conservative is that DeSantis will

890
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: oppose Vance and try to run to the right a

891
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: Dvance and Rubio, particularly an immigration. You talk about a country.

892
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: We've got riots going on in big cities who think

893
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: that Trump is too anti immigrant. And if DeSantis does

894
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: indeed run and claim that Trump is soft on this

895
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: issue and therefore Vance is soft on the issue, I

896
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: think that there would be many Republicans, though, that would

897
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: agree with the status on that issue. Let me share

898
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: a few paragraphs on the piece of the American Conservative.

899
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Desatus will have to play this delicate game of distinguish him, saying, reading, well,

900
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: let me set it up this way. What killed Dessatus

901
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: when he ran in twenty four He was running against Trump,

902
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: and Trump was victimized, run out of office, targeted, and

903
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: most Republicans therefore wanted to support Trump but for no

904
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: other reason to get back at what the left had

905
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: done to him. So Santas was in no man's then.

906
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: Even if people like Dessatus he's running against Trump. Well,

907
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: the one thing about Trump is he can't run for reelection.

908
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: You know, listen to this bag, and he's not gonna

909
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: She's not gonna try to run for another term. So

910
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: the point that the author is making here that we'll

911
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: get back to is Dusantus has to run against Vance

912
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: without running against Trump. DeSantis will have to play the

913
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: delicate game of distinguishing himself from the President's assumed air

914
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: while also supporting the president. He will have to convince

915
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: voters that it's not Desantus versus Trump, which killed him

916
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: in the last election, but de Santus versus Vance. It's

917
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: clear that Dessantus wants to establish himself as the staunchest

918
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: immigration hawk among leading Republicans. It's no longer enough to

919
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: condemn illegal immigration. To make a Republican stand out, he

920
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: has to call for restricting legal immigration as well. Dessantus

921
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: makes his mark in this regard. Dessantus has decided to

922
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: lead the charge against H one B visas. Trump recently

923
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: fumbled on this issue in his disastrous Fox News interview

924
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: with Laura Ingram, where he appeared to be and to

925
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: endorse the widely criticized visa. But it's with legal immigration

926
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: that Dessantas wants to distinguish himself bands. Depending on what

927
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: the administration does, Dessantus could exploit discontent with the administration

928
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: not going far enough. Now, let me interject this piece

929
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: here for the American conservative, this is the kind of

930
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: stuff that goes on to the rate that the mainstream

931
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: media never covers. Their entire immigration narrative. Is Ice and

932
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: Trump bad, all these illegal immigrants good. In fact, here

933
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: in the right there is a huge group of segment

934
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: of the population who thinks we're not going far enough,

935
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: we're not throwing cut people out of the country fast enough,

936
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: and that there's way too much legal immigration, there's way

937
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: too many foreign students going to American colleges. They don't

938
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: support the hvvvsas and so on. Without regard to your

939
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: position on this, there's no coverage of this. The guy

940
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: who realizes, however, that there were kens of millions of

941
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: Americans who think that we need to be even more

942
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: strong on immigration maybe looking for a political champion, and

943
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: this could create the opening for Dusanas again, whether you

944
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: agree with it or not, back to the peace. Dusanis

945
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: is changing tax for twenty twenty eight by adopting anti

946
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: tech populism. He now rails against the industries alleged transhumanism

947
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: and wants AI heavily regulated. He warns about the apparent

948
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: danger of data centers and how they will upset the

949
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: state's power grid. DeSantis is one of the leaders of

950
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: the crusade against property taxes. Even with a new agenda,

951
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: the governor will still lack charisma and be with the

952
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: same awkward guy interacting with the crowds. So that's a

953
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 2: piece from The American Conservative assessing Santis's chances of pulling

954
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: this off, and the piece acknowledges that Dsantas may indeed

955
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: have an opening by running believe it or not, to

956
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: the right advance and therefore Trump. But there's still the

957
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: issues of you know, DeSantis was awkward when he was

958
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. It didn't come for us as

959
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: smoothly as his interactions when he ran for governor of Florida.

960
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: Which brings us, of course, now to an update on

961
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: the fascinating story of Marjorie Taylor Greed. Nown't we discussed

962
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: this and I think it was the last podcast. There's

963
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: more to it. No, we are awaiting the release the

964
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: massive dump of all of the Epstein files, which is

965
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: going to be an absolute mess. Files are evidence and

966
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: interviews and all of this stuff, and people are going

967
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: to see somebody's I'm mean, imagine if the cops are this,

968
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: never mind something as massive as Epstein cops are in

969
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: you know, investigating a murder. Well they have ninety two

970
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: suspects before talking to this, that and the other thing,

971
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: their names in here and so on. If you throw

972
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: all of that evidence out there doesn't mean any of

973
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: those people did anything wrong. And the left gars are

974
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna look for anybody's name in here that's on the

975
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: right and say, well, your name is in here. They

976
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: could be somebody actually cooperating and helping to rat out

977
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: his lamb's in here anyway. Marjorie Taylor Green, who of

978
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: probably all the members of Congress, is I think the

979
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: most mega of them, and Prump started mega this total

980
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: falling out that they've had. There's a massive piece in

981
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal today on what's Marjorie Taylor Green

982
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: up to. Now. I believe I know everybody has ambition,

983
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: and everybody in politics is virtually everybody in politics has

984
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: a massive ego. I'm going to say something that sounds

985
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: like an insult. But I'll explain it because it isn't

986
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: really what it's saying. Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't know her place.

987
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: Let me explain. What's the thing about. Is that the

988
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: Peter principle everybody rises to their own level of incompetence

989
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: or is that a different principle, whatever, what it is.

990
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green will never win a statewide election in Georgia.

991
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: She's perfect for her congressional district because she's a Rome Georgia.

992
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,479
Speaker 2: She represents a very conservative area. But in Georgia, which

993
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: is a swing state, she's toxic among moderates. All of

994
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: these people on the left who have been making fun

995
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: of her forever. Well, there's a whole lot of people

996
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: that kind of swing back and forth in the middle

997
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: who make fun of her as well, which means that

998
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: she's been an outstanding force in Congress to keep pushing

999
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: from the right and firing back at say, at AOC.

1000
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: But because of her style, which drives several people crazy.

1001
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: You know, she's at the state of the lefties are yelling,

1002
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: and she's yelling right back. She's wearing a red light

1003
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: and blue clothes and all of this stuff. There's a

1004
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: limit though, as to how far she's going to go.

1005
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: And I think at the stead of Marjorie Taylor I

1006
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: don't want to just go this far again she's in politics.

1007
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: Does Marjorie Taylor Green want to be a member of

1008
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: Congress forever? No one of them do, well, I mean

1009
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: there are some. I mean Gwen Wore realizes that this

1010
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: is the luckiest thing of the world that ever happened,

1011
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: where you don't see her trying to run for any

1012
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: anything else. She's going to sit in Congress and not

1013
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: do a damn thing because she gets to be a

1014
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: congress And Tammy bald is another example of that. But

1015
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: marger Taylor Gray thinks that she should say somebody so

1016
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: she's poked or knows about running for the United States Senate,

1017
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: and Trump said, I'm not going to back you for that.

1018
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: You're not going to win. Trump wants every Congression. Trump

1019
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: realizes that if in his in the next two years

1020
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: starting in twenty seven, he doesn't have the Congress, he's

1021
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: blocked on everything. He desperately wants to keep a house

1022
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: in the Senate, and he doesn't want candidates running who

1023
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: are going to lose the seat. See the thing about

1024
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Trump that nobody ever gives him credit for. Is he

1025
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: learns many of the candidates that Trump backed for statewide

1026
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: office in eighteen, twenty and twenty two they lost Arizona,

1027
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: a number of states. There are these mega candidates that

1028
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: some even argue doctor Oz in Pennsylvania, these mega candidates

1029
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: that we were, you know, pro Trump, but they weren't

1030
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: good enough candidates to win a statewide election. I think

1031
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: Trump now realizes he's got a back candidates who were

1032
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: actually going to win rather than go down and lose

1033
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: a forty two percent of the vote. So he said

1034
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: that you're Marjorie Taylor Green. And my belief as to

1035
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: what happens is that Marjorie Taylor Green then went very

1036
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: very public and said released the Epstein files, which Trump

1037
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: certainly didn't want to do, because Marjorie Taylor Green wanted

1038
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: to get back at Trump because she's thinking, I've supported

1039
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: you Trump all this time, and now you're gonna tell

1040
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: me that I can't run for the Senate, and Trump will,

1041
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what you have to do with analyzing everything.

1042
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: Nobody ever does this other than me, I swear nobody does.

1043
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: Put yourself in the other guy's shoes. So If you're

1044
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, I've been ridiculed of and mocked all

1045
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: of this crap because I've been supporting you Trump, and

1046
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: now you won't prop me up for this. Now, imagine

1047
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: you're Trump and look at it I took. There's four

1048
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: hundred thirty five members of the House of Representatives. What

1049
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty of them are Republicans. Out of

1050
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: those two hundred and twenty, is there anyone that I've

1051
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: given a beggar platform? The Marjorie Taylor Grade, she stands,

1052
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: she's out there, she's at the inauguration, all my speeches

1053
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: on a leg. We got her all these places, we

1054
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: proper our proper, our proper op, proper op, proper op,

1055
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: proper op, proper, give her all of this platform, and

1056
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: now she hears one thing for me that she doesn't

1057
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: like and she turns on me. So that's where the

1058
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: rift occurs. She thinks that Trump owes him, and he

1059
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: and Trump thinks that she that she thinks Trump owes her,

1060
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: and Trump thinks she owes him. So, if you're Marjorie

1061
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Grade and you want to buck up against Trump,

1062
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: where do you go? Whe'd you go? You want to

1063
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: buck up against Trump? Where do you go? They'll all laughed.

1064
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: So she's now on the View, she's gonna be on CNN,

1065
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: she's gonna start going she's gonna try to make an alliance.

1066
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: And as I raised this on Monday's podcast, whether or

1067
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: not it will work, And I honestly don't know. For

1068
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: people who say the left will never embrace her, would

1069
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: you have ever thought they would have embraced Liz and

1070
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney. They hated those people until they oppose Trump.

1071
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: The left hates Trump so much that if somebody who

1072
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: was in Trump's orbit somehow starts swirling around in their orbit,

1073
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: will they maybe? So there she was in the view,

1074
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: you cut it up with the old battle axis from

1075
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 2: the view and so on, and you watch and see

1076
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: whether or not she keeps doing this, and she's you know,

1077
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: you can say a lot of things about her. She's

1078
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: got a sense of shrewdness to her. She knows how

1079
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 2: to push buttons, and she may know how to push

1080
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: Trump's on. She goes to the View and starts ripping

1081
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: on Trump when that's gonna drive Trump crazy. So she's

1082
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: picking this fight because she probably sees okay, Trump says

1083
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: I can only be a member of the House forever

1084
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: and ever and ever, and I want to run for

1085
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: I want to run for the Senator. She's probably why

1086
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: can't I run for president in eight, twelve, sixteen years. Well,

1087
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: when there are people that are telling you can't win,

1088
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: we're not gonna support you, or anything beyond that, she

1089
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: feels his sense of rather than this is why I

1090
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: said earlier. She hasn't our place. Trump and most conservatives

1091
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: have thought her place is exactly where. She is a

1092
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: combative member of the House who's going to fight the

1093
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: lefty radicals with their own fire. But if she tries

1094
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: to run for something beyond this, she's simply gonna lose.

1095
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: Update on the story here. Js Online is reporting that

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: there are ple negotiations underway in the Hannah Dougan case.

1097
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: I have said from the beginning that this case screams

1098
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: out exactly for exactly that Hanna Dugan is the Milwaukee

1099
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: County Circuit judge who I think dead to rights, broke

1100
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: the law. Ice shows up with a warrant, She sends

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: him down to the Chief Judge's office and allows the

1102
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: illegal immigrant to sneak out. Event they caught him anyway.

1103
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: But she clearly tried to obstruct the illegal immigrant from

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: being arrested by ICE, which is an law enforcement agency

1105
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: with the rest authority, and they had a warrant. What

1106
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: she did is illegal. The challenge for the federal prosecutors

1107
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: will be to get a jury to convict her. But

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: as I explained on Monday's podcast, this is not a

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: Milwaukee County case. It's an Eastern District of Wisconsin case.

1110
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: So the jurors come from West Bench. Sheboygan Racine in

1111
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: addition to say Milwaukee, West Allie and so on, could

1112
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: get a jury who a convictor in her to her side.

1113
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: The federal judge seeing the case trying the case, Lynn Aidelman,

1114
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: is the leftiest federal judge in the state of Wisconsin

1115
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: and one of the leftiest in the country, and she

1116
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: may be hoping that she gets favorable rulings out of him,

1117
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: but she runs the risk that if she goes to

1118
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: trial and loses, that she would go to prison. I

1119
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: think this case screams for a plea. She pleads guilty

1120
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 2: and what she gets in return and is forced to

1121
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: resign as a judge and she has to take a

1122
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: guilty plea. So she's convicted criminal. In exchange, she doesn't

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: get any prison time. That way, the prosecution gets its

1124
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: conviction and they send a message that you can't obstruct

1125
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: ICE agency. You'll face severe consequences. From the perspective of Dugan,

1126
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: one of the zillions of lefties who says to hate

1127
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: Trump and hate Ice, and she lost her mark. I mean,

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: she consulted with another Milwaukee County judge right there, and

1129
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: that judge is cooperating with the prosecution. Even the really

1130
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: leftist judges realize you can't do this, which is why

1131
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: hardly any judges in the unit. All sorts of police

1132
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,959
Speaker 2: agencies and so on, but very few judges when confronted

1133
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: with a warrant from the FEDS. Is look at how

1134
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: when the Justice Department was crooked to get out, to

1135
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: get out to get Trump, how hard it was to

1136
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: obstruct them, much less when they're actually enforcing an existing law.

1137
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: The illegal got a warrant for these people. Now, just

1138
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: because these negotiations doesn't mean that there'll be a deal.

1139
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: Maybe they can't reach enough of a deal. Maybe do

1140
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: Good and her lawyers think that they can beat this

1141
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: thing a trial. But I think that this is a

1142
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: case that just screams out for a resolution with a

1143
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: plea bargain that gets her off the bench, and I

1144
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: would contend also carries a criminal conviction. In return they

1145
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: agree not to seek imprisonment for her, that she leaves

1146
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: the bench humiliated to that's that it's a sufficient to turrent,

1147
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: I think for these public officials that are out there

1148
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: trying to obstruct ice without taking Hannah Dugan, who otherwise

1149
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: is not somebody who's been spending her life going out

1150
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: there and committing crimes. She just a lefty judge, and

1151
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: not even the worst lefty judge in Milwaukee County, far

1152
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: from it. Not a terrible judge. She did something that's

1153
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: terribly wrong and she doubled down on it and for

1154
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: which she should pay a price. But I just think

1155
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: this neither side, I think, wants this thing to go

1156
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: to trial and run the risk of the other side

1157
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: winning altogether. When we come back, all these athletes that

1158
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: are going down being injured in particularly basketball and football.

1159
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: Injuries have always been a problem in basketball. Now it's

1160
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: people are stunned this early in the season, how so

1161
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: many players are going down. There is good news here

1162
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. It appears as though Josh Jacobs, the pack

1163
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: running back, will not need knee surgery. That's huge news.

1164
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: And the news on Giannis out of Kumpo of the

1165
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: Bucks is very very good. His groin injury, which may

1166
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: or may not be a tear, appears to be rather

1167
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: minor and they think he'll be back in two weeks

1168
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: rather than this being something that knocks him out for

1169
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: months and months and months. Victor Wumbayama, the superstar of

1170
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs, he's going to be out for

1171
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: a few games. You've got guys going down already with

1172
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: regard to football, they're dropping all over the place. We've

1173
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: seen the last several years in the NBA, the team

1174
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: that wins the championship is the team that doesn't have

1175
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: five guys go out for the season in the postseason.

1176
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: Look at Indiana last year. They made it all the

1177
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: way to the finals end then Tyrese Haliburton tears up

1178
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: his knee. He isn't going to play all this year.

1179
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: We're going to dive into that story and an interesting

1180
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: theory from I admit my theory is coming from an idiot.

1181
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: Well it is. Well, I'll tell you what the idiot

1182
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: is as soon as we come back after the break,

1183
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: which will be very very short on the Markedelling Podcast.

1184
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. As I said, I

1185
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: have a theory that's coming from an idiot. But here's

1186
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: the thing about idiots. Some idiots are idiots always. There

1187
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: are idiots who sometimes are right about things, right, Or

1188
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: here's the more common thing. There are people who are

1189
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: idiots in certain areas of their life. But if they

1190
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: just stay in their own lane, they're actually kind of smart. Right.

1191
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: That would be like every Hollywood celebrity who tries to

1192
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: shoot off their mouth about politics and so on. I mean,

1193
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: most of them don't know a damn thing about it.

1194
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: If they just stuck to acting, they'd be perfectly fine. Right.

1195
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: George Clodia is anxiety, is a great actor, and all

1196
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: of that stuff. He didn't know a damn thing about

1197
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: how government anything works. If he simply stayed in his

1198
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 2: own lane on that, he would he wouldn't be an

1199
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: idiot if he didn't shoot his mouth off on that thing.

1200
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: What DeNiro's another example. Here's the one I'm going to cite.

1201
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,879
Speaker 2: Steve Occur, coach of the Golden State Warriors, multiple NBA champion,

1202
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: massive lefty and some of the things that he said

1203
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: of and I get part of it consider where he's coaching.

1204
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: He's coaching in San Francisco. For Eaven's sakes. I mean,

1205
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: he has no choice but to be a lefty because

1206
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: if he spoke on politics in San Francisco was a righty.

1207
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: He get in anyway, He's got a theory on why

1208
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: there have been so many injuries this early in the

1209
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: NBA season, and his theory makes sense to me. I've

1210
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: had my own theory about the general increase in injuries

1211
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: and sports overall, and this plays into it. On my

1212
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: theory with regard to the overall, athletes are stronger, faster,

1213
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: and the games are played much harder. Using football as

1214
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: his gamble, other than say Dick Buckets, you go watching

1215
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: go on YouTube and just watch highlights of games in

1216
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: the say fifties, sixties and seventies. They don't hit very

1217
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: hard at all. What they did is they tackled. Now,

1218
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: you blow people up, you launch your bodies. In addition

1219
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: to that, fifty sixty and seventies offensive line was like

1220
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty pounds. They're no. Three forty running

1221
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: backs for one eighty five some of them are two

1222
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: fifty five and they're running the forty and four to four.

1223
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: In addition to that, look at the pace of the games.

1224
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: You look back at what Just go back and watch

1225
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: an NFL game from the seventies on YouTube. There is

1226
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: no no huddle. Maybe like right at the end of

1227
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: the game, you'd run a play, you go back into

1228
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: the huddle, you'd run another play. It just and they

1229
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: played like fourteen and eventually sixteen games a year. The

1230
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: athletes are bigger, stronger, faster, so when they crash into

1231
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: one whether it's going to cause more damage than in

1232
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: an earlier era. Then you add in everything else, like

1233
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 2: the length of the season and the additional number of games.

1234
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: In the nineteen sixties, the National Football League had one

1235
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: playoff game, the championship. The winner of the East played

1236
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: the winner of the West in one playoff game. Initially

1237
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: they had twelve regular season games, then it was fourteen.

1238
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: You played a championship, so the most games a team

1239
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: would play would be fifteen. Now there's thirty two teams

1240
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: in there, thirty or thirty two. In football, you've got

1241
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: all these rounds of playoffs. The regular season is seventeen

1242
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: games and there's eighteen weeks and then you got all

1243
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: these extra games in the playoffs and so on. All right,

1244
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 2: get back to Steve Kerr. One of the things that's happened.

1245
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: And I understand that most people don't follow the NBA closely,

1246
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: and I don't even think you don't follow the NBA closely,

1247
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: do you. Well, there's one thing that's really happened this

1248
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: year different from last year. It's a trend that has

1249
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: occurred in football is well, you'll hear Mike Marlette talk

1250
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: about football. We have. Football analysis is teams that play

1251
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: at pace, in other words, run more plays, not spend

1252
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: as much time on the huddle. Run a play, try

1253
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: to run another play, try to run another try to

1254
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: run another play. Well, simple common sense. The more plays

1255
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: you run, the more guys are going to be hurt,

1256
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: because you nobody, hardly anybody gets hurt in the huddle,

1257
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: but running up and down the field and get it

1258
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: off another play. The more times that you're out there

1259
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: to be smacked around to do a thing, the greater

1260
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: the chance that you're going to be hurt. Furthermore, the

1261
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: more worn out you're going to be when you do

1262
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: all of it. That's football in the NBA. The big

1263
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: change so far this year is almost every team is

1264
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: trying to play up tempo. Example, everybody says the best

1265
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: coach in the NBA is Eric Spolster of the Heat.

1266
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: I mean they've been saying this. He must be a

1267
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: great coach. He's lasted forever, and every and everybody says

1268
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: the best coach. The Miami Heat have been traditionally known

1269
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: for a slower pace game, and they play spectacular defense.

1270
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: That's the way they bet. And he's a he's a

1271
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: what's the term, he's a protege of pat Riley. Pat

1272
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: Riley was believed in defense and a physical nature of

1273
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: the game and slow slow, slow, slow slow. When he

1274
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: was at the next it is that the Lakers with

1275
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: the Heat. That's what he did. Miami has stumbled in

1276
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: recent years. Spoolstra announced that he had an epiphany this summer.

1277
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: We can't play the way I believe in anymore. The

1278
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: game has changed. Miami is now giving up like one

1279
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: hundred and forty points a game. They're just running up

1280
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 2: and down the court. The over unders in NBA games

1281
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 2: are going through the roof. The Bucks are a perfect example.

1282
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: I think, not counting the injury of Giannis. I know

1283
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: this sounds insane. The Bucks are better without Damian Lillard

1284
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: than with him. Damian Lillard was a traditional point guard

1285
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: and old. He'd bring the ball up the court. He'd

1286
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: slow walk up the court, and by the time he

1287
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: crossed the mid court line, there's like fifteen seconds left

1288
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: in the shot clock. He dribbles around, sets up the play.

1289
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: They're looking to shoot with maybe six or five seconds left.

1290
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: And that's pretty much how all the great players did it.

1291
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: Jordan kolbe et cetera. It's not the way teams want

1292
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: to play anymore. They play with pace. Kevin Porter Junior

1293
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: was going to be a very good point cut for

1294
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: the Bucks. He ripped up his knee. Now Ryan Rollins

1295
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: has been spectacular, has taken over the position. They get

1296
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: too up the court, big, big, big a fast pace,

1297
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: pace pace pay face. Part. Steve Kerr's theory is the

1298
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: teams are playing at such an intense pace, the guys

1299
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: are getting more worn out and therefore more prone to

1300
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: be injured, even this early in the season, and he's

1301
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: concerned that by the end of the year it'll be

1302
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: like football, where players have dropped like flies before we

1303
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: even enter the playoffs. I think what Kerr says makes sense.

1304
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 2: It's simple common sense. I have believed for years the

1305
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: NBA seed. First of all, I think every sports season

1306
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: is too long. You don't agree with me on that,

1307
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: do you welse's foot past perfect is? It's just not

1308
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: it's too long. Football is training camp in July and

1309
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: they play the Super Bowl in the middle of February. Now,

1310
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: I admit, for a team like that never makes like

1311
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: say Dallas, their season usually ends on New Year's Day

1312
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,440
Speaker 2: with barely team that rarely team that rarely makes the playoffs,

1313
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: I think they're all too long. And I think on

1314
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: almost everything in life less can be more. Nascar, Golf,

1315
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 2: and golf. They don't even have an off season anymore.

1316
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,520
Speaker 2: NASCAR starts at a ton of five hundred in February

1317
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: and their last race is in November. December of January

1318
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 2: is all that's off. Golf's like the same thing. Golf

1319
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: they have the first tournaments in early January golfs and

1320
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 2: it's off season right now with the play like exhibition

1321
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: events and so on. In the case of the NBA,

1322
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 2: it's absurd. NBA teams go to training camp in late September.

1323
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: The preseason game start in early October, and the first

1324
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: game of the year is in the middle of October.

1325
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: The NBA Championship has decided in June. If you're a

1326
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: team that goes a long way, there's no offseason at all. Now.

1327
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: That may have worked in the era in which you

1328
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: talked about football earlier. Watch old there's things are on

1329
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: YouTube everywhere. They watch a Bucks game from the late

1330
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: seventies the early eighties, and they had those really good

1331
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: teams that never won a championship. With the Marcus Johnson,

1332
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: Sydney Moncrief era, Junior Bridgeman, all of those guys. You'd

1333
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: be shocked, especially if you're young, and how slow they

1334
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: bring the ball up the court and how slow everything's going.

1335
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: A couple of passes and then somebody chet a jump

1336
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: shot clank team to get the rebound, they come down court.

1337
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: There was nowhere near as much banging. There was nowhere

1338
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: near the kind of also that we see now. It

1339
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: was just it was a different style of game. So

1340
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: you could last for eighty two games because not that

1341
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: many people were breaking into that much of a sweat.

1342
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: I think it would not hurt the NBA to shorten

1343
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: their games to forty minutes. College games are forty minutes.

1344
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks that's too long. People say I don't want

1345
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: to go to a game. People leave before the games

1346
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: are rubber as it is. I'm somebody who has season tickets.

1347
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd lose anything by shortening the game.

1348
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: I think if you took the regular season from eighty

1349
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 2: two to sixty four games, that would be fine. Now

1350
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: here's why teams don't do it. Every sport is adding

1351
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: to their season because the more games you have, the

1352
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: more rights that you can get for your TV broadcasts,

1353
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 2: and the more money that you make by selling tickets.

1354
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: If you sell tickets for I'll just use round numbers.

1355
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: Any sport, sixty games, you make more money than if

1356
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: you sell tickets for thirty games. I will tell you

1357
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: that I would be willing to accept the notion of

1358
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: raising the prices per ticket. And they're already seen in

1359
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: the NBA and playing fewer games. You know, by the

1360
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: time you get around to February, March, and April, for

1361
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: the teams that are going nowhere, they're playing for nothing.

1362
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: The teams that are ninety games out of first place,

1363
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: it's no meaning for them. For the teams that are

1364
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: in contention, they're winding down. What do you care if

1365
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: you're a three seed or a four seed? It becomes pointless.

1366
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 2: And the teams that make the playoffs, given the fact

1367
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 2: that everybody's running faster and doing all this stuff, guys

1368
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: drop like flies. Giannis appeared several years ago to rip

1369
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: off his knee. Because he's got the strongest ligaments in

1370
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: the world. He bounced right back, but it looked for

1371
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: the all like he had an acl look at this.

1372
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: Last season in the NBA, everybody fell down there at

1373
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think that the nature of all of

1374
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: these games is they're so much faster, there's so much harder,

1375
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: so much more physical. In sports in which there's no contact,

1376
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: like say tennis, probably not a big deal, or track

1377
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: and field, probably not a big deal. But in the

1378
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: sport we're smashing into one another. The fact that there's

1379
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: more action contained is taking this physical toll. And the

1380
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 2: thing with all of these sports is sports basically have

1381
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: two things going for them. People enjoy seeing the game

1382
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: and they enjoy seeing the great players. If the great

1383
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: players aren't there, you're losing something that is integral. You'll

1384
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: still have well Okay, it's still a great game. There's

1385
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: still you know, Okay, the Packers. Let's imagine that they

1386
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: don't have their quarterback, and they don't have a running back,

1387
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: and they don't have two offensive vinements. They're still playing

1388
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: an interesting game of football. But it's not as much

1389
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: one to watch players that are only okay as it

1390
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: is to watch players that are really, really good at

1391
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: their craft. So I think that curries on to something.

1392
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 2: And I think that given the fact that the coaches

1393
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: in football is the other sport where this has come

1394
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: into play, have just realized that running more plays makes

1395
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: more sense than running fewer plays and do things fast

1396
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: and not waste any time. That it's creating a much

1397
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 2: more demanding game. And these athletes, as they say, are bigger, faster, stronger,

1398
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: but the rest of their body isn't bigger, faster, or stronger.

1399
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: We have the same kind of bones and the same

1400
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: kind of hearts and the same kind of lungs, and

1401
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 2: the wear and tear becomes a greater thing. All right.

1402
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: We did this last week on Thursday, because we do

1403
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: our normal football preview on Wednesday. I'm in a preview

1404
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: the high school football championship games this weekend. We have

1405
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: seven divisions. I need to correct something I said I

1406
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: think last week about we divide the divisions into seven

1407
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: divisions based on enrollment. They actually the WIA a couple

1408
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: of years ago started to do something that I've advocated.

1409
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: They do enrollments a big part of it. But they

1410
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: do put in a competitive component two which division you're in.

1411
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 2: In other words, say a school of small enrollment that's

1412
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: dominant every year, and say basketball, they move them up

1413
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: a division or two. So there is some element of

1414
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: that in there. And there's several teams, for example, that

1415
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: they did it just by enrollment. We division three rather

1416
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: than two, or four rather than three, so forth and

1417
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: so on. Anyway, they have seven divisions. They start the games.

1418
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: They're all played at Camp Brandle. They play four division

1419
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: games on Thursday and then three on Friday, and they

1420
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: do them in order Division seven, which is the some

1421
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: states do at the opposite and Wisconsin the higher number

1422
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: is the smaller school. I think that makes sense, don't you.

1423
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: It would seem like it should be the other way around.

1424
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: But there's a couple of states in which I think

1425
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: it's Illinois. They like the sixth division six or six

1426
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: a thing is the biggest schools what we do with

1427
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: the opposite. I will admit I don't know anything about

1428
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: some of the smaller schools other than we know where

1429
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: they are. But the takeaway that I have and mentioning

1430
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: this real quickly, is we have two hotbeds in Wisconsin

1431
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: for high school football, Southeastern Wisconsin and Northeastern Wisconsin. There's

1432
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: sometimes a team from Madison, like Wana Key is outside

1433
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: of Madison, but otherwise you rarely see a Madison area

1434
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: team make it to the championship and almost never these

1435
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: bigger schools Western Wisconsin or Northern Wisconsin. So last time

1436
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: you saw Stevens Point or wasauw or Old Claire. Those

1437
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: are big high schools. Now in the smaller division. Some

1438
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: of the smaller schools in that area have an opportunity.

1439
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: But there's two just huge hotbeds, and we see it

1440
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: with regard to the recruiting as well. And that's northeastern Wisconsin,

1441
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: kind of like Fox Valley to Green Bay, like Oshkosh

1442
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: the Green Bay that quarter and then Southeastern Wisconsin, but

1443
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 2: not the city of Milwaukee. So let's give the smaller

1444
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: schools the quick doo Cochrane, Fountain City plays Kenosha Saint Joseph.

1445
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,480
Speaker 2: Well Kenosha Saint Joseph's self explanatory Catholic School fro Kenosha.

1446
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: Division six Darlington versus Edgar. Should I use the joke

1447
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: that I use all the time. You got to give

1448
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: Edgar credit? Paul one guy pen against I've done that.

1449
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: I've done that joke with various schools. Forever. You fall

1450
01:26:51,920 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: for it each time. Division five Mayville plays Northwestern. I

1451
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: think Northwestern is in Pelmira. No, it's not, I admit

1452
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I could look that up, but probably

1453
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: should have. Division four Little Shoot plays Winnikani. Little Shoot

1454
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: is actually if you think this doesn't make sense, but

1455
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 2: it makes sense when I say it. It's a large

1456
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: small city. A large small city would be a city

1457
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: that has a big high school in it, but only one.

1458
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Little Shoots a community of about ten or eleven or

1459
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: twelve thousand. They're only in Division four. They run a

1460
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: smaller conference, and they're enrollment isn't as high as some

1461
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 2: of the neighboring communities a similar population open enrollment and

1462
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: so on. Little Shoot is twelve and one. They play Winnakoni,

1463
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: which is thirteen and oh little shoots in the Fox

1464
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Valley again. This is nowhere. We're starting to get into

1465
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 2: my hotbed area. And Winnikani is northwest of Oshkosh. Division three.

1466
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: Paul knows about the Grafton team. Grafton played an incredible

1467
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: who do they beat? It was a great game. They

1468
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Catholic memoryal Waukeshaw, Those Catholic Memorial has been a dynasty

1469
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: forever in football. They came from behind and they beat him.

1470
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: And Paul said before that game that was the real

1471
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Estate Championship. Paul was at it. We'll test it. Grafton

1472
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: will play Reedsburg. Reidsburg is from kind of southwest Ish.

1473
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: It's it's in the general Madison area. Have to think

1474
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: I think north of Madison, not sure for not sure.

1475
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: Always going to all three games on what's the weather like?

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Speaker 2: You haven't you haven't looked well? I mean I would look.

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01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: I mean, does your wife lay out your clothes for you?

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01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: She does, She's gonna say, Paul, put on this winter

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01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: coat and so on. Well, I know somebody's gotta know

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01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: what you gotta wear because they gotta know what the

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: weather is. Would you you'll put your hand on Grafton

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: plays Reedsburg. Now again, Reidsburg might be in a conference

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01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: where they play larger schools, but they're ten and three

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01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: in graft that it's thirteen and no Division two. This

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: is these are both schools in the Green Bay area.

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01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Notre Dame plays West of Pier. Notre Dame is the

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01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Catholic school that covers Green Bay to Peer, that area

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01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: of northeast in Wisconsin. They're very very good. West to

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01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Pier is the team that knocked out They knocked out

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01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: Homestead last weekend. I watched the YouTube replay of that game.

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: Poll neither team could stop the other, and you know

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01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: the game, so they just matched touchdowns the whole game,

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01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: and you know, and one team won by one point.

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01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Why do you think that was messed that? You would

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01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: you believe that Homestead missed an extra point that's what

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01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: they lost by one point. And the game it was

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: like there were virtually no puns. The Homestead team runs

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01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: almost every play, so they would like have nine minute

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01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: possessions and West to Pier passed almost every play. And

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: it's just a great game. Two really strong teams. So

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01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 2: somebody had to lose. In West of Peer one, they

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01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 2: played Green Bay, Notre Dame. So those are both teams

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01:29:53,479 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: in the Green Bay area. And then the Division one game, Arrowhead,

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01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: the giant school from the Lake Country here plays Bayport.

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01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Arrowhead is twelve and one, Bayport is eleven and two.

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01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: That's the Division one game. And as I mentioned in

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01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: an earlier program, Bayport is the area right to the

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01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: west of the city of Green Bay. It's kind of

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01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: a great kind of area for football, rather affluent area

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01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: of big yards for the kids and so on, and

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01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: kind of like the Green Bay version of Arrowhead if

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01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: you would imagine. And Bayport's like a regional area school district.

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01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: I think it might be in Swamaco, but there's all

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01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: these affluent suburbs of Green Bay moving to the west

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01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: over there that's Bayport. There are a team that's often

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01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: and so those are the seventeen he ind I'm certainly

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01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: not going to make any predictions on anything other than

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01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Paul has guaranteed a win by Grafton. And again from

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01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: what I've read and what I've heard from people who

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01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: follow this, those were the two best teams in Division three,

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01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: which doesn't mean Bredsburg doesn't have a chance. As I've said,

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01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 2: I just think there's too many divisions. I think the

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01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: teams in Division two and beat the teams in Division

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01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 2: one and vice versa. And there's too many divisions in football.

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01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: I get why you have to do it. For the

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01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 2: smallest school. Some of these schools in Division seven, the

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01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 2: kids are playing both ways because there's just not enough

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01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: to feel the team. In fact, you know, when Tucker

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01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: Kraft went to high school in South Dakota, they played

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01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: I think was it nine man or seven men football

1531
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: that he played in high school, which it was nine.

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01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 2: I mean in those really tiny schools that they literally

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01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: create a fewer player because there aren't enough players to

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01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: feel the team. So anyway, Paul says that Grafton's quarterback

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01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 2: plays safety. Will that's a Division III school, You'll still

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01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 2: see it some of the time. In most of the

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01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 2: large schools in Division one or two. Other than for

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01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,520
Speaker 2: a niche purpose, they have one way players, which obviously

1539
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 2: you require more players on the team to be able

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01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: to pull that off. But that's not the standard for

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01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: I think when I was in high school, guys always

1542
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: played both ways in high school. But again, going back

1543
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about earlier, bigger, faster, stronger,

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01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 2: and so on, it's just harder to do even at

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01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: that level. All right, that's it for today. A regular

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Speaker 2: football preview including pointspread pixes on the podcast that we

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Speaker 2: released on Thursday. Talk to you that Bye.

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