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Speaker 1: Wolves fans join us January twenty eighth at the Rosemount Legion.

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Speaker 1: It's a Michelov Ultra watch party with Cafanes Max Fuller

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Speaker 1: seven thirty to nine thirty pm with trivia prizes and

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Speaker 1: drink specials.

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Speaker 2: On the details of Cafe dot Com. Keyword calendar.

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Speaker 3: Is supposed to be Pink Floyd. This is like a

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Speaker 3: Pink Floyd ripoff bit. I would guess this is the

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Speaker 3: Light Side of the Moon. Brilliant, what a great album,

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Speaker 3: but guaranteed human right, I'm sure this is an actual band.

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Speaker 2: It might be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do have a library of a lot

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Speaker 1: of I mean before this salt Ai stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of this stuff here too.

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Speaker 3: So one hundred percent we would never use Ai no ever.

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Speaker 2: Timmy and Cris are debating something over there. Oh. I

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Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have put the camera on there. Oh what

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Speaker 2: are they doing?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they know they're there, gesturing, going on

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Speaker 3: some pretty graphic moves.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, again, you know what you're talking about?

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Speaker 4: Nothing bad, nothing bad.

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Speaker 5: You know what we're talking nothing bad?

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Speaker 2: Well, then share with the class. We can guess.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, you guys know we've talked about it this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we were already talking about it, you know, we're talking.

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Speaker 2: About oh got it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, only I just yeah, I just saw some

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Speaker 5: demonstration video. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: You needed a visual aid?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 5: The visual that I got was not the visual I

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Speaker 5: was hoping for.

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Speaker 2: The visual almost gave you aids.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well.

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Speaker 2: We have your landman take quickly before you were escorted out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you don't like it, do you?

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Speaker 2: That's so sad. No, I don't why I don't. Can

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Speaker 2: I say something before? Yes? Please? Please?

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Speaker 1: You have?

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Speaker 4: Are you just seeing contrarian to be contrarian, to be

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Speaker 4: the other side.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that you don't like it.

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Speaker 4: This would hit you right in between the eyes.

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Speaker 2: I tell you, what if if this show, if this

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Speaker 2: show was first and Yellowstone came later, I might be

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Speaker 2: like everybody else like this is great, Like this is fun. Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm so burnt out by the tailor shared and writing

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Speaker 2: in over dramatics of every scene from Yellowstone, Like I

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Speaker 2: couldn't wait for Yellowstone just to be over. I'm like

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Speaker 2: there's a point where I'm like, not every scene has

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Speaker 2: AK forty seven's on a ranch, Like that's just not

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Speaker 2: that's not real life. Like it was fun. It was

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Speaker 2: a fun watch in the beginning, and then I think

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Speaker 2: it just got so ridiculous, and I got tired of

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Speaker 2: the ridiculousness where you know, every piece of dialogue has

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Speaker 2: to be just so smoky and dramatic. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: like talk slower Tom later, you know. So it's it's

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Speaker 2: I'm exhausted by him, And I thought when I watched

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Speaker 2: the first three, I think I watched three episodes of Landman.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to get into it, but then when

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Speaker 2: they started, I know, this sounds like such an old man,

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Speaker 2: This is such a dumb take, But I think it's

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Speaker 2: just because it's because I am so exhausted by him.

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Speaker 2: The sexualization of his high school daughter in like episode

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Speaker 2: two or whatever three, I'm like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Like she's supposed to be like sixteen or seventeen years old,

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Speaker 2: and she's like a big focal point in the background,

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Speaker 2: trapesing around in a bikini at the pool with this

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Speaker 2: seventy year old assistant sitting at the kitchen table trying

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Speaker 2: not to have thoughts and feelings about this sixteen year old.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what what are we doing? Like they're allowing

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Speaker 2: the boyfriend to spend the night on the couch and like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like does this really need to be

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Speaker 2: part of this over drum Like get to the oil

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Speaker 2: rigs blown up? That was kind of fun, right, that

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Speaker 2: was cool. Billy Bob's amazing, Like his individual character and

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Speaker 2: his performance is great. I'm just exhausted by Taylor's Sheridan.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a hard watch. There's so many

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Speaker 2: unrealistic things, Like once you started to show how unrealistic

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Speaker 2: his writing was in Yellowstone and then it carried over

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Speaker 2: into Landman, I'm like, I'm out. I'm not putting up

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Speaker 2: with this. My mom watched Dallas and all that stuff

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Speaker 2: when she was grown up, and I'm like, this is

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Speaker 2: just a modern version of Dallas and all of those

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Speaker 2: late night dramatic TV shows. I'm like, this is a

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Speaker 2: soap opera on steroids, and I'm not here for it.

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Speaker 2: I never saw Yellowstone. Maybe that's why I like, you

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Speaker 2: never saw Yellowstone? Never watch it?

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Speaker 5: You you were my god, dude, you would, oh.

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Speaker 6: My god, would.

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Speaker 5: As a cowboy the next day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would move to a farm. You know you

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Speaker 2: loved Yellowstone right when you saw it? You probably did.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. Yeah. I feel about Landman right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the best. See I never saw Yellowstone,

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Speaker 2: So I think if you if you get through land

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Speaker 2: Man and it has the same arc that Yellowstone has. I

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Speaker 2: think if you started watching yellow Stream, like I'm just

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Speaker 2: watching the same show just in a different formsion. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. I could I can buy into that.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense in my head. Big Balls, that makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense for sure. As Big Balls. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that Ripper.

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Speaker 4: What's his name, Billy Bob's character, Who's.

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Speaker 2: Who's more of a badass? Oh? Rip? I see man,

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Speaker 2: it's Rip really, so Billy Bob would be Kevin Costner

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Speaker 2: if there was like ah, if there was, like are

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Speaker 2: a comparison Billy Bob.

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Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know that there's a difference between

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Speaker 5: real life Billy Bob and the character he plays in Landman.

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Speaker 5: That's true, you know, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 5: separate the two. And I know that Taylor Shardan wrote

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Speaker 5: the parts specifically for Billy Bob. But I will say this,

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Speaker 5: I love both shows, but if I could, I would

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Speaker 5: go in and edit out a lot of each episode

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Speaker 5: that I don't need if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's the same with the Yellowstone. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: things that happened that I was like, this is superfluous,

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Speaker 5: getting back to beating people up with lamb man. It's like,

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Speaker 5: this is superfluous. Get back to telling me you know

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Speaker 5: what's going on with the oil and so I can

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Speaker 5: I can agree with you on that. But that said,

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Speaker 5: the Billy About character is one of my favorite characters

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Speaker 5: ever on television. I love this this character, he's he's

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Speaker 5: just a straight talker, and then you add in an

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Speaker 5: old dude with the mustache this season, Eliott. It's so

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Speaker 4: I love that it feels like Friday Night Lights, like

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Speaker 4: it's in the same it does.

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Speaker 2: It's in the same town.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it feels like it feels like Mojo is

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Speaker 4: going to go play on Friday Night.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, I've still never seen that. I've seen

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Speaker 2: the movie the TV show. I love a TV show.

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Speaker 2: I have males. Friday Night Lights was beloved every Friday

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Speaker 2: Night Lights. The movie like change my High School everybody.

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Speaker 2: So I am too stubborn to even give the same

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Speaker 2: the TV show a chance. I watch it million. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want it.

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Speaker 4: I don't want that to get tainted at all because

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Speaker 4: that Booby Miles and everybody that changed my life.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to watch.

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Speaker 4: No, it's yeah, no, I can't watch it.

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Speaker 2: I can't everyone. Yeah, I've heard everybody loves it, and

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Speaker 2: I get the response like that when people are like,

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Speaker 2: you would have never watched Friday Night Lights to show

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Speaker 2: my Crown. No, I've never watched it.

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Speaker 1: One of the best TV shows of all time, that's

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Speaker 1: what they say. It would not taint it at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think you would really like it. It's

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Speaker 1: horrificad you probably love.

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Speaker 2: Matt, Sarahs and Tommy. Come on now, who's Matt sarason

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Speaker 2: ism Regan's Uh no, that's the quarterback Eric Taylor Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of good looking.

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Speaker 4: People, have you guys seen a Lordie and uh the

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Speaker 4: previews of that with what's her name, Robbie?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that? Have you heard about that Wuthering Heights, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Have you heard like how she got so infatuated with

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Speaker 4: him on set that she needed to be by him

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Speaker 4: all the time.

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Speaker 2: She said she was a code dependent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like she couldn't stand with Autumn like that.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't she married. Yeah, that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And that's how good looking this lord he is? We

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Speaker 2: know him. You know what I said about him last

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Speaker 2: She said that about herself, like she had to be

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Speaker 2: around him in an interview. Yeah, and she's married. He

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Speaker 2: crushed her. I don't know him, think of that.

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Speaker 5: But imagine if like Sess said that and Tommy be like,

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Speaker 5: I agree, Yeah, this guy tom.

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Speaker 4: But he is a studhorn just become best friends.

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Speaker 5: You really should maybe go see him?

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Speaker 2: Says yeah, finally have something in common. Fascinating. What's this

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Speaker 2: lord Jacobi? He was in Yeah, and uh know Zach Zach.

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Speaker 2: You don't think he's.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's hideous, but I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't understand the infatuation with him, Like, okay, looking,

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Speaker 1: he's good looking, but like it's not like the guy

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Speaker 1: eleven out of ten that I think we talked about

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Speaker 1: it last week, Like the generation gap is there's something

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Speaker 1: about the next generation that really loves you.

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Speaker 3: Ben ask Games because you know, Bailey is only a

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Speaker 3: couple of years older than her. That whole generation that is,

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Speaker 3: like the hard throb of their generation is Jacob Elordi.

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Speaker 2: They were all obsessed with him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's he's up there for sure. I don't

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Speaker 6: see why you couldn't. He's got great hair, forehead of

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Speaker 6: a football helmet.

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Speaker 7: Oh, Bill, Kurt, Noach, can I can I ask you

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Speaker 7: a question that you could maybe redeem yourself from about

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Speaker 7: eight years ago one through ten Eric's cetter home.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Probably a say eight, Okay, saved.

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Speaker 2: Look a look at him. My god, he's not looking

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Speaker 2: at chi. He's more your type, clearly.

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Speaker 4: No, it's no. I just you've called him a six

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Speaker 4: in the past, and no, I.

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Speaker 2: Know I think that was Dove.

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Speaker 3: But he was little maintenance, so that gives you two

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Speaker 3: extra points like an eight. It's been said on this

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Speaker 3: show multiple times, or at least his hair waves multiple times, Tommy.

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Speaker 3: But don't forget Zach also thinks Patrick Swayze's dead from

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Speaker 3: the neck up. It's talking about Bodie the boat is

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Speaker 3: off dead.

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Speaker 2: From the neck. Understand Zach's type.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I've gotten a lot of people coming

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Speaker 1: out of the woodwork and agreeing.

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Speaker 4: With me in that about No, that's no.

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Speaker 1: I think he's. Yeah, he's fine. But where Center Holmes

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Speaker 1: yoga videos. I'm trying to find them.

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Speaker 2: I got them. Nobody thinks you're kidding. Nobody thinks you're kitty.

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Speaker 8: You've never done yoga to him though, definitely sweated Sticky.

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Speaker 2: So good.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Sticky, so we got to get this audio.

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Speaker 3: I should have got this before the show. You're familiar

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Speaker 3: with mad Dog Chris mad Dog Russo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, there's a fifteen.

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Speaker 3: you said Stedman Stidman. Yeah, he said stick them. That's

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Speaker 2: Careful, Tommy, you like to do to ceter home? Stick them?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck tomorrow in the driveway club.

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Speaker 2: By the way, guys, it's gonna be a big one

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Speaker 3: Eric setter home yoga video club or you want to

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Speaker 2: Yes, at least you guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, should we all film our mornings.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow when we're going to start our cars? Be able

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Speaker 2: But it'd be kind of fun, wouldn't it. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: Guys, all right, Sauce does sports after this on the

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Speaker 5: And by tom there you goes, how should more?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 5: You know we haven't talked sports much at all. You

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Speaker 2: Right, Sauce, here's your time to shine.

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Speaker 5: Fan five on the Power Trip presented by All around

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Speaker 5: your Timber Tech deck building.

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Speaker 6: Can bye?

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: The Minnesota Vikings announced yesterday they will be bringing back

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Speaker 8: We'll probably talk more about it in Vikings news, but

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a great first step and again we'll have

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Speaker 8: Sweet the Wolves battle the Bulls tonight at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: They're talking about something else. So, yeah, we're.

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Speaker 5: Discussing the show. I'm sorry what we're saying.

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Speaker 8: Oh about the Wolves battle out of bulls. What we're

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Speaker 5: We should have our mics because we were talking about

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm super excited about the Bulls. I had to

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Speaker 5: I had no idea, he said. Dwight Pippen wasn't either.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be people are going to be Joscelyn

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Speaker 2: That's just how the Western Conference is.

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Speaker 6: But you gotta stack wins against the Utah Jazzes of

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, here's the nation to the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: Be a better team. I mean, yeah, the nation's right

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Speaker 6: But it's over for Mike com Yeah, they need to

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Speaker 8: The Wild host the Red Wings tonight at six thirty.

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Speaker 8: I haven't had eight thirty written down, but you said

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Speaker 2: It, that you can do it.

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Speaker 8: The Wild are twenty eight, nineteen and nine, but the

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Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all good, it's all It doesn't

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Speaker 2: What the hell is that? A lot of parody, paradis paradise,

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Speaker 2: Still on Iowa Wild, Milwaukee Admirals Parker.

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Speaker 1: Fox and I we join in progress at six o'clock

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Speaker 1: right here in the fan's cool.

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Speaker 2: There is no single word.

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Speaker 3: This is, according to AI, no single word commonly used

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Speaker 3: that means a large amount of parody.

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Speaker 2: A high concentration of.

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Speaker 3: Or volume of parody would be an avalanche of parody,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'd use any of those other descriptive

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Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and just use paradis. That's good, let's

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Speaker 1: So you believe the NHL is very paradis, very paradise,

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Speaker 6: The Wolves going on a three game losing streak, and

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Speaker 1: Possibly, has there been a more paradis season in the

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Speaker 8: The NFL Final Four is set, and this all goes

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how he's going to take his

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Speaker 5: Can you explain to me why that was an interception

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Speaker 5: and not a catch.

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Speaker 2: Because he left their ground? It's a it's a pretty

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Speaker 2: The thing is, I don't understand the I really.

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Speaker 5: Don't about the same play I'm talking about in the

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Speaker 5: Denver Broncos game.

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Speaker 2: Were cooks. Yeah, Yeah, that's it because he left the

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Speaker 2: ground because to me, I don't know why there's such

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Speaker 2: a big debate.

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Speaker 5: Interesting because I am Actually it seemed to me like

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Speaker 5: he caught the ball and he landed on his back

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Speaker 5: and then the guy took the ball away.

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Speaker 2: So this is my interpretation of the law that i've

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Speaker 2: that I thought has been around ever since we decided

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Speaker 2: we have to talk about what's a catch not a

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Speaker 2: catch any the way I The way I understand it is,

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Speaker 2: anytime a player leaves the ground to make a catch,

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Speaker 2: you have to survive the ground in the process of

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Speaker 2: surviving the ground for to be a catch. If if

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Speaker 2: that ball was caught in stride, he takes a step

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Speaker 2: or two and goes down to the ground with the

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Speaker 2: with the defensive player contacting him, they go down to

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Speaker 2: the ground, tumble like they did same movements, ball comes out.

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Speaker 2: That's a catch, that's not an interception. The second a

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Speaker 2: player leaves the ground, you have to survive the ground.

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Speaker 2: So he didn't survive the ground, Okay, So like if

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Speaker 2: that ball is not underthrown and he didn't have to

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Speaker 2: like go up and make and make a chesty catch

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Speaker 2: in the air, then then we're not talking about that.

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Speaker 2: But because the ball was slightly underthrown, he had to

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Speaker 2: make an adjustment. He leapt off the ground. You got

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Speaker 2: to survive the ground. Sorry, that's that's the law.

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Speaker 5: That is the first explanation I've heard of that, And

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Speaker 5: maybe its because I haven't looked deep enough, but nobody's

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Speaker 5: explained it to.

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Speaker 8: Me like that.

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Speaker 5: Really, the letter of the law tells me, then, that

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Speaker 5: that is an interception, because reality, reason tells me that's

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Speaker 5: not an interception. But the law the penalty. That's okay,

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Speaker 5: got it?

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Speaker 2: I hate it, Yeah, I don't like it, but that's

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Speaker 2: the interpretation of the rule.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's perfect. That's what I needed to know.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that Sean McDermott was right, though, and

482
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Speaker 3: he should have thrown a bigger fit in the moment.

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Speaker 3: One of his points in the postgame press conference was,

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Speaker 3: even if you want to say it was an interception,

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Speaker 3: he was surprised the NFL didn't slow the game down

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Speaker 3: and take a much deeper look at to play. That

487
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Speaker 3: was going to mean the game, right, if that's a catch,

488
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Speaker 3: the Bills are overwhelmingly likely winning the game. So this

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Speaker 3: is for everything. And his point was, what was it

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Speaker 3: twenty seconds? Let's go on, Yeah, He's like, how do

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Speaker 3: you not stop the game and make sure that that

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Speaker 3: call is correct and look at it. We've seen plays

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Speaker 3: that are much more insignificant take way longer than that.

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Speaker 3: That was a super tight play and you look at

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Speaker 3: it more than twenty seconds, I think, go.

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Speaker 2: On, because I think the officials in New York said,

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Speaker 2: I think it was pretty clear cut. It wasn't a

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Speaker 2: frame by frame did he leave the ground? He leapt

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Speaker 2: off the ground. That is obvious. That's open and obvious.

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Speaker 2: So the result is exactly what happened. He did not

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Speaker 2: survive the ground. So that's an interception.

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Speaker 5: And going back to Klosterman's book about football, which we

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Speaker 5: were talking about the first segment and if you heard

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Speaker 5: it or not, Ben, but Chuck.

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Speaker 2: Clusterman, Yeah, yeah, I'm excited to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exciting one of the things. And I think

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Speaker 5: this is actually a perfect example of what he's talking about.

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Speaker 5: One of the reasons that we love football so much

509
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Speaker 5: is because there are rules, and you there's chaos, but

510
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Speaker 5: within the rules, there's chaos. And the problem with that

511
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Speaker 5: play and so many plays, is that the rules change

512
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Speaker 5: so often and sometimes the rules make no sense reasonably

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Speaker 5: that that's when America football fandom gets angry because common

514
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Speaker 5: sense doesn't play within the rules, if you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Yes, I agree. And the thing is it is

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Speaker 2: maddening because I think the NFL is overltigious, Like there's

517
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Speaker 2: way too many rules and stuff like that, which is

518
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Speaker 2: why a lot of Europeans and people around the world

519
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Speaker 2: don't like foot the American football because there's too many rules,

520
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Speaker 2: Like every.

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Speaker 5: Try to explain it to somebody who doesn't understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impossible. It's impossible. You just have to grow up,

523
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Speaker 2: like absorbing it through osmosis and just like repetition of

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Speaker 2: watching the game. What the bigger problem that I have

525
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Speaker 2: was the past interference call that got them down to

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Speaker 2: kick the game winning field goal. I think that has

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Speaker 2: to be completely overhauled and that and that is past

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Speaker 2: interference is so subjective. You know, there is the rule

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Speaker 2: and then there is the personal subjectivity of the actual

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Speaker 2: official throwing the flag. I think anytime a ball is underthrown,

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Speaker 2: if the ball is underthrown and the receiver has to

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Speaker 2: stop his forward momentum to come back to the football

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Speaker 2: and there's contact inadvertent contact, which like I think that

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Speaker 2: that was an inadvertent contact by the defensive player that

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Speaker 2: is not defensive pass interference. That is impossible to not

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Speaker 2: make contact in those situations. So you cannot make that

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Speaker 2: call in that part of the game. If you want

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Speaker 2: to make that call in the first quarter, fine, I

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Speaker 2: still don't like it. But to make that weighty of

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Speaker 2: a call in that moment I think is egregious and

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Speaker 2: I think all these officials should have they you have

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Speaker 2: to swallow your whistle in that situation because that is

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Speaker 2: because what is every gofense going to do then and

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Speaker 2: critical moments? Just heave the ball up. They're already kind

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Speaker 2: of doing that in the NFL, but like just slightly

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Speaker 2: underthrow football and have the receiver. What if he just stops,

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Speaker 2: if he goes full speed, puts his brakes on and stops.

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Speaker 2: Find me a defensive player that can put his brakes

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Speaker 2: on and react in that fast moment and not make contact.

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Speaker 2: It's impotsossible.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like he was doing that intentionally twice in

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Speaker 1: a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like it's and.

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Speaker 1: Then you saw it and as soon as the ball

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Speaker 1: was heaved up in the air like that, like he

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Speaker 1: had not thrown it all game long, it was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what they're going for, and they got

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Speaker 1: exactly like the moon balls.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson used to Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And they had been letting him play, so to say,

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Speaker 5: the entire game until that series.

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Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, yeah, I mean it's unfortunate. I mean McDermot

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Speaker 2: gets fired.

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Speaker 5: What a weird situation.

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Speaker 2: What a weird situation. And you know, look, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's obviously some stuff going on with Brandon Bean and

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, obviously he positioned himself being

568
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Speaker 2: positioned himself to be the good guy in the whole situation,

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Speaker 2: which I think there's a lot of I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of Bills fans out there that would say otherwise,

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Speaker 2: But whatever. I mean, it's how razor thin the NFL is.

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Speaker 2: You know, he he is a a few officiating calls

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Speaker 2: away from you know, having his team in the AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship without Patrick Homes and without all these other obstacles.

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Speaker 2: And because an official got overly officious, he lost his job.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Officious. That's a word, is it? The other one that

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Speaker 5: was not and I've already forgotten what it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I used a word on the on the

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Speaker 2: Patriots game that I don't think is a word, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad it didn't like it caught.

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Speaker 9: Delicious, delicious, stick them delicious, I said Diddley Bob, No,

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Speaker 9: I said something about Drake may needing to be take

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Speaker 9: a more legged approach.

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Speaker 2: You did say that, Yeah, you did say that. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I don't think that that's even a thing.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted him to use his legs more. I

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Speaker 2: want him to run more and be more more mobile

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Speaker 2: in a certain situation.

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Speaker 1: Is it No, it's having legs or a specified kind

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Speaker 1: or number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't think that I did in the

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Speaker 2: right way.

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Speaker 5: Because I think that's referring to like that's a four

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Speaker 5: legged beast.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you definitely wanted him to be two legged. Yeah,

597
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Speaker 10: us his two legs. I didn't want him to lose

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Speaker 10: a leg out. There's a strong tape. Jason mccordy agreed,

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Speaker 10: Jason or Devin Jason.

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Speaker 3: Jason Jason, Ye, Well, I thought that was an absolute

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Speaker 3: avalanche of good information.

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Speaker 2: Same, a barrage of good sports information.

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Speaker 5: It was delicious.

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Speaker 3: It's paradise. That's just me mispronouncing paradise correct. Vikings News

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Speaker 3: is Next. We'll talk about Brian Flores with Ben Lieber

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Speaker 3: after this on the fan, Hey, welcome.

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Speaker 5: Back seven forty eight. Mortshill getting funky. Now a little

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Speaker 5: bit of that Vikings News.

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Speaker 2: It's time for Vikings News on the Power Trip, presented

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Speaker 2: by all Right Ben.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings extended Brian Flores with the asterisk that he

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: stays if he doesn't get a head coaching job. So

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Speaker 3: we still can ask the question, do you believe Brian

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Speaker 3: Flores will be back in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: Yes, way more so now than I was when we

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Speaker 2: talked about this at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: So explain the timing, Like if he's still in the

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Speaker 3: running for the Ravens or the Steelers, or maybe there's

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Speaker 3: another job that he interviews for, why sign it now

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Speaker 3: this extension? Now, how does that give him leverage as

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Speaker 3: opposed to just continuing the head coaching cycle. Still interview

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Speaker 3: talk to the Vikings and have this on maybe even

623
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Speaker 3: a gentleman's agreement like this is possible, like, hey, look,

624
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Speaker 3: if I don't get these jobs, we can still do this.

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Speaker 3: Give me the number one reason why they timed it

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Speaker 3: like this and signed this yesterday, Well.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's mutually beneficial that if they give

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Speaker 2: him the opportunity to still move up and take a

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Speaker 2: head coaching job. I don't know why you wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to have the job security of knowing like I have

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Speaker 2: a job, like I got a job. The terms work out,

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Speaker 2: the number works out. It it gives, in good faith

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Speaker 2: to the Vikings, the idea that I'm not gonna make

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Speaker 2: a lateral move, that I'm gonna be your guy. It

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Speaker 2: does do the Vikings a solid which I think is

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Speaker 2: is a smart thing to do. Doesn't leave them hanging

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Speaker 2: for okay, and you know, when the season's over and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now we get into the true offseason,

639
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna start, you know, focusing more on the college

640
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: stuff and the draft, that we don't lose our coordinator

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Speaker 2: to another coordinator position. And I don't think you know,

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Speaker 2: now that he's kind of sniffed around, it doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: like he even wants that. I I'd be curious to

644
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Speaker 2: know how much how serious he was about all these

645
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys rumors and all this other stuff. You know,

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Speaker 2: if he takes a head coaching job, nobody's gonna nobody's

647
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna be mad at that, right, Everybody's gonna be like

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Speaker 2: very happy for him, So I just think it is

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Speaker 2: mutually beneficial to both. He's got a job, it's lot,

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Speaker 2: then they're allowed him to move if he takes a

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Speaker 2: head coaching job. I think the the idea, and he

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Speaker 2: must have a better idea after sitting down with the

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Speaker 2: Steelers now for the second time, that the likelihood of

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Speaker 2: him being offered the head coaching job at either the

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Speaker 2: Ravens or Steelers is probably waning and the possibilities are

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Speaker 2: getting less and less. So sign the deal. If if

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Speaker 2: by happen chance that they interview some of these the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator for the Rams, and

659
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Speaker 2: all these other guys that are in these positions that

660
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Speaker 2: can't do in person interviews, if those fall through and

661
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: he's sort of a plan B or C, then they

662
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: can always come back and we'll just have to backfill

663
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Speaker 2: with his with his defensive quarter in position here. But

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Speaker 2: I think all likelihood it probably means the writing writing

665
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Speaker 2: is on the wall that he's not going to be

666
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Speaker 2: the top choice for either one of those teams.

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Speaker 3: Is there any player on the defense that is directly

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Speaker 3: affected by Flores stain.

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Speaker 2: Well Harrison Smith? I mean I know that he's he's

670
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Speaker 2: a free agent, but he definitely left the the possibility

671
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Speaker 2: open that if the Vikings, you know, here we are

672
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: with an even number year, if we make a playoff

673
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Speaker 2: run and they want to feel like they want to

674
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: bring him back and he can be helpful. I could

675
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 2: see him coming back to playing this scheme because Harry

676
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: was very specific that if he did make a choice,

677
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: like Eric Kendricks did this year, that it has to

678
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: be the perfect situation with the right type of defense.

679
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: It cannot be a man coverage heavy defense. It's got

680
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: to be similar to what Brian Flores does. That's the

681
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: only way he'll come back for another season and finish

682
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Speaker 2: out the season. So he could be greatly affected. Certainly,

683
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Speaker 2: I think Van Ginkel and Gernard are greatly affected. I mean,

684
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Speaker 2: if we brought in a coordinator, if we lost him

685
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Speaker 2: and they and the coordinator want to come in and

686
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Speaker 2: run a standard four to three let's just say a

687
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Speaker 2: Tampa two or something like that. I'm not sure those

688
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: guys would fit in a Tampa two. That's not their role.

689
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: They're not a hand on the ground five technique defensive ends.

690
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: So we would be wasting I think player time on

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Speaker 2: some player contracts if we went that direction. So it's

692
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: nice that everybody stays pat.

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Speaker 8: Do you think there's any chance in these conversations Brian

694
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 8: had with Koc and all these other people about staying

695
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 8: and what they were going to do with the team,

696
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 8: did he say, my defense can play as well as

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00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 8: it can, but I have to get a similar effort

698
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Speaker 8: on the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that that was part of

700
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: the conversation. I think, you know, it's not so siloed

701
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: and compartmentalized within to not understand what's going on on

702
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: the other side of the ball. So I think Bflow

703
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: has a really good understanding of where this team is

704
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: at and what the offense is trending towards, and what

705
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: those decisions might be. Obviously, he doesn't know exactly what

706
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: they're going to be doing in the offseason offensively, but

707
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: I think he understands that we're a good football team

708
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: that's not far away. He's going to focus on the defense,

709
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: continue to have a defense, be a top ten defense

710
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: if he probably understands if I do that, and obviously

711
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna make some tweaks for sure. We all understand

712
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: that we still need interier defensive line of help. We

713
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: still need a safety, we still need some some defensive backs.

714
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Like all of that stuff's in play. But I think

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Speaker 2: he understands the nucleus of this defense is going to

716
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: be there. But I don't think that that specific conversation

717
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: probably happened.

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Speaker 8: Is this one of the most important drafts in Viking's history?

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Speaker 2: One of you? I mean, you know, once again, you've

720
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: got you've got to not only hit on the first round, guy,

721
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: but I think I think that you have to find

722
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Speaker 2: three starters out of this draft. You should, yeah, you know,

723
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Speaker 2: and that's not that's not high expectations. I mean I

724
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Speaker 2: think out of every draft, you should find at least

725
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Speaker 2: three three, you know, immediate starters. You know, I think

726
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: your I think your third round of these days, I

727
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: think your third rounder, depending on the position that they're in,

728
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Speaker 2: should be a starter.

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Speaker 8: I mean the two first picks of the Seahawks, the

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Speaker 8: Guards and then the is it even yeah even worried.

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Speaker 8: They're stud and they were their first two picks in

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Speaker 8: last year's draft, and they are contributing to a team

733
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Speaker 8: that will probably play in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing, Like you want to

735
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: obviously Ideally you want to have two high enders like

736
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: they have the two guys that we just mentioned. But

737
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Speaker 2: you just want guys to start, you know, you say,

738
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: you want guys to go out there and contribute and

739
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: get that game experience. And yeah, they're gonna make mistakes,

740
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: but you just you can't not have them play a

741
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: significant amount of snaps. So yeah, this is a huge,

742
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: a huge draft for us. And you know, my my

743
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: knee jerk reaction right now is will probably go offense

744
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: with that first pick, but we'll see.

745
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Speaker 3: One day ago, Sauce tweeted a gift of Jennifer Lawrence

746
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: going okay, iumbs up there, you know that right, famous meme,

747
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: and he was responding to a Niners Twitter account. Then

748
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: asked this question, So again keep that in mind, is

749
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Speaker 3: a Niners fan or a Niners account? Yes, you know,

750
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Speaker 3: would you do this trade? The Niners receive wide receiver

751
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. No, the Vikings receive quarterback Mac Jones, a

752
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six second round pick and wide receiver Ricky Piersoll.

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Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. No, I mean that's that's his

754
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: that's this preposterous. As the rumors I heard that the

755
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Ravens are going to trade Lamar Jackson to the Raiders.

756
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: What no, not if they fired their head coach. Why

757
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: would they do that? Why would we trade our best

758
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: player on the team for Mac Jones? No, I mean

759
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now Mac Jones is I get it.

760
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is the next Sam Darnold. I get all

761
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Speaker 2: that could be could not be right, more likely not

762
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Speaker 2: right than could so.

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Speaker 3: Since the last time you were here, the charges were

764
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Speaker 3: dropped on Jordan Addison, but we haven't had your opinion

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: yet on the whole noodle bar fiasco. This looks like

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00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: it's again much ado about nothing. But in general, how

767
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: do you feel about Jordan Edison and just his general

768
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 3: sense of judgment?

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Speaker 2: General judgment again is still immaturity. You know, if this

770
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Speaker 2: was an isolated incidant, this first time we've ever seen

771
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: him get in trouble, we say a big deal. You

772
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: know you're having a good time. He's drunk at a

773
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Speaker 2: casino and he was probably on a heater. I don't

774
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: know the details. He didn't want to lead ucky or

775
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: he was not on a heater and he wanted to

776
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: make all his money back. Like look, we've all been

777
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: young we've been in a casino, we've all been drunk.

778
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: You know, big deal. But like you said, it's it

779
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: is the it's the history that he has, and you know,

780
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a history of making poor choices.

781
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: And the thing is, dude, we have him for fifth year.

782
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: I don't think that we've exercised that fifth year option.

783
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: He's only hurting himself. He is there. There is potentially

784
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: millions of dollars that he's leaving on the table because

785
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: he cannot make mature decisions and stay out of the media. So,

786
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think his future is probably not here

787
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: with the Vikings. And that's not even just a that's

788
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: not just because of his off the field stuff. I

789
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: just don't think it makes sense to pay him probably

790
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: what he deserves to have two high priced wide receivers.

791
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Speaker 2: So my whole thought was he was not going to

792
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Speaker 2: be a long term player here anyway for a second contract.

793
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Speaker 2: But this, I think this absolutely assures the fact that

794
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: he's not going to get a second deal with the Vikings.

795
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Speaker 3: And do you believe Jalen Naylor is good enough to

796
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: be a solid number two wide receiver or would they

797
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: need to address that I.

798
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Speaker 2: Think they would need to address that love. I love

799
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: his development and where he's going. I tend to look

800
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: at this this offense and think that we need somebody

801
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: in that caliber of Addison, a little bit more quick

802
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: twitch than we have out of Naylor. Naylor's fantastic at

803
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: that number three spot and his ability to kind of

804
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: move around. But no, I think that they still probably

805
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: need to find somebody to fill that pill.

806
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: Jaspot, all right, one last hardcore football question during Vikings news. Also,

807
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: since we haven't seen you a lot of firings and

808
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: hirings across the head coaching carousel, what have you liked

809
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: been surprised by? What makes sense what doesn't make sense?

810
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: In terms of hirings and firings. Let's start with Harbaugh

811
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Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, I do. I think I think New York,

812
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: New York doesn't need a They don't need a guy

813
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: to come in and be boisterous like a Brian Daball.

814
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: They need a calming CEO. And that's exactly what Harbaugh is.

815
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's a I think it's a really

816
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: good business hire for them if they're looking for a

817
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: good manager of a team, somebody that that obviously has pedigree,

818
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: a reputation, and immediately when he has his first team

819
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: meeting with those guys, like, you're going to be transfixed

820
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: in the fact that, like, dude, we got John Harbaugh

821
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: as our coach. This is unbelievable, right, So I think

822
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: the buy in is going to be immediate. It is

823
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: the type of temperament I think is perfect that for

824
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: that organization. I think Stefanski is actually a great fit

825
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I am. I'm curious to see what he's

826
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: going to do with the quarterback situation because Pennex is

827
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 2: coming off the injury. Obviously, I'm sure he likes Kirk Cousins,

828
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: but there is the age factor, and like, do you

829
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: really trust that he's going to put you over the

830
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: hump and get you into the playoffs and get yourself

831
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: a win or two in the playoffs after seventeen games,

832
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: given his his age and lack of mobility, I don't know.

833
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: I probably think he leans more still towards the youth,

834
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: but he's got Bijon that's exactly the type of player

835
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: that he wants for that offense. I think Mike Tomlin's

836
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: stepping down was probably the right move. You know, they

837
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: are notoriously loyal to their head coaches, and things have

838
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: gotten stagnant. Things have gotten really stagnant there, And for

839
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: a guy that has you know, molded himself and kind

840
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: of transition into more that CEO and not so much

841
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: of a defensive coordinator, like they need defensive they need

842
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: defensive help, like they need to be more explosive on offense.

843
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: They need to modernize and for whatever reason, Tomlin was

844
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: great for what nineteen years, It's just I feel like

845
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: they were stuck in a rut. They need to refresh

846
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: there in Pittsburgh. So I think they'll probably go offense

847
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: with their next head head coach and probably the dude

848
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: from the Rams, the Shieldhouse guy or something like that.

849
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: Right, all right, Fan five In a second, Tom Pelo

850
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: Saro in a little bit, the Oscar nominations are all

851
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: we can talk about films Max and see them all

852
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: so we can get his opinion probably in all of

853
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: these things. More of the Power Trip Morning Show after

854
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Speaker 3: this on the Fan