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Speaker 2: I'm d we have been following the Nancy Guthripe kidnapping story,

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Speaker 2: abduction story. I don't know, you can characterize it any

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Speaker 2: this camera, which is a Nest camera. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that at least I was aware of. Now, of course

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Speaker 2: but it could be a copy from another type, another

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Speaker 2: to and this suspect, and again I shouldn't probably not

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Speaker 2: say suspect, but this person who was approaching the Guthrie

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Speaker 2: we do not know if Nancy Guthrie has been recovered,

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Speaker 2: We don't know the person who's been detained who they are.

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Speaker 2: simply speculating. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: I thought earlier today, this crime is never gonna go solved.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna go unsolved. We weren't even sure if the

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Speaker 2: ransom notes were coming from people who actually had abducted

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Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy, so all of that is still

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Speaker 2: in play. But the FBI has done a pretty good

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Speaker 2: One parent is not happy with the child visitations in

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Speaker 2: of the country. There have been kidnappings where children have

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Speaker 2: So this is a very different This is a high

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Speaker 2: profile not because she's Nancy Guthrie, but because she is

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Speaker 2: The Today Show. Savannah got three well known media news

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Speaker 3: Sirp Hey, Yeah, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: You are a lot of good calls tonight, and I

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Speaker 2: Well, then the guy's got a backpack, but the backpack

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Speaker 2: looks as if he's full. If it's if it's full, now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know would would this was where Nancy Guthrie lived.

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Speaker 3: Ure when call referred to the video they made, and

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Speaker 2: Well that's the problem. Now if they do, if they

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Speaker 3: Because of the product sent me to the Mexican border,

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, there's a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: The fact that they decide to kidnap or abduct the

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Speaker 3: And it's truly frightening. You know, you have an eighty

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Speaker 2: Bad guy with you more, Paul. And again, I do

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Speaker 3: That's a long time, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Always great to you Bloye, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Man, have a good night, you too, you too. We're

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Speaker 2: They're going to do what they have to do. But

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to the calls, we go, gonna go to

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Speaker 2: Steve up in Merrimack, New Hampshire. Stee, appreciate your calling

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Speaker 5: Hey Dan, thanks you taking my call. The things that

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Speaker 5: that this is what the FBI should be doing, not

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Speaker 2: That's just that same thought. I had that same thought today.

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Speaker 5: Think, right, here's my thing, here's my thought in this thing.

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Speaker 5: Number one, I would not be conciliatory towards these kidnappers

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Speaker 5: or kidnap our kidnappers. I would just say, here's the money.

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Speaker 5: We got, five questions for our mother. If you can

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Speaker 5: know only she would be able to provide those answers.

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Speaker 5: That way, you'll know at least she's alive at that

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Speaker 5: of peculiar. They keep showing her on NBC in the morning,

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Speaker 5: Well, the money can be replaced, the mother cannot. If

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Speaker 5: You have no assurance whatsoever. But the alternative is almost

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Speaker 6: Hi? Well, it's this is very bizarre. It really is bizarre.

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Speaker 6: But I think ever since President Trump, which thank god

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Speaker 2: Well, the FBI, the FBI should have been involved in

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Speaker 6: So that's right right by, at least for those you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was Rio Rico, and it was one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they live. They only live this house where

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Speaker 6: All right, thank you, Dan, thank you for taking my car,

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Speaker 7: Well, we are following as best we can what is

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Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, how you doing today? Well, I think she's missed.

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Speaker 8: I think he's missing. I would not have given him

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Speaker 8: I feel so bad. I think she's my cousin. And

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Speaker 8: I talked about this earlier. We think she's not with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what. My understanding is that she

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Speaker 2: caught on this door camera the morning of the abduction.

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Speaker 2: Clearly that's the guy that took Nancy Guthrie out of

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Speaker 2: her house. We don't know where he took her. But

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Speaker 2: what I don't understand is how can you, even if

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Speaker 2: you're a criminal, how can you figure that in this

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Speaker 2: day and age, with all the cameras that exist not

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Speaker 2: only on the doors of people's homes, but on all

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Speaker 2: the streets, how do you think you're gonna gave it

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Speaker 2: get away with something like this?

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Speaker 8: I mean, well, they said he did dis hear she

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Speaker 8: whoever it was disconnected the camera, but they still had

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Speaker 8: video of this person.

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Speaker 2: Well that they did, they didn't disconnect the camera adequately.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that this is a really high risk situation.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna somehow have someone send you six million dollars

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Speaker 2: in bitcoin an account somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 8: I would please bring her back, and I hope.

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Speaker 2: They well, I know that would be wonderful if they

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Speaker 2: brought it back. And here's the problem tonight. And my

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Speaker 2: question is, let's assume you're the police and you have

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Speaker 2: this guy in custody and you are convinced he's the kidnapper.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's part of a gang, but maybe but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know he or she whatever will be politically correct

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Speaker 2: in that regard, Joe, you know me. So the question

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Speaker 2: then is you you can't give this guy a free pass.

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Speaker 2: You can't say, look, give us produce Nancy Guthrie and

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Speaker 2: and we'll let you walk out the back door, never

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Speaker 2: to be seen again. They can't do that. They can't

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Speaker 2: make a deal with him. What do you think they

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Speaker 2: can offer him if they say to him, look, if

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Speaker 2: she's still alive, it's we need to get her to

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Speaker 2: a hospital to be medically shaken taken care of, because

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Speaker 2: if she dies on your watch, you're gonna have not

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Speaker 2: only kidnapping, you're gonna have murder. You can threaten him

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Speaker 2: a little bit. I guess you can tell him that

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Speaker 2: the electric chair in Terror Hate Indiana might be waiting

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Speaker 2: for him. Maybe that will scare him.

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Speaker 8: Or life in prison. Who knows?

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Speaker 2: These guys think they can do life in prison standing

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Speaker 2: on their head. It's the death penalty to worry about.

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Speaker 2: None of them ever's other than the guy that did

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma bombing, who told his lawyers drop it all.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the death penalty. Let's just get it. I

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Speaker 2: want to get out of here. Everybody else fights the

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Speaker 2: death penalty. Hook line and sinker. They throw everything, you know,

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Speaker 2: they throw everything at it.

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Speaker 8: You know that maybe they should just give him the

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Speaker 8: death penalty, saying no deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Maybe they could use that

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Speaker 2: with him, But they also probably have to get him

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Speaker 2: a lawyer pretty quickly too. Hey Joe, I got to

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Speaker 2: run here, But thanks so much for call it tonight.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate Yeah, calculated, great, all right.

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Speaker 2: Good night. I got my friend Matt and Florida. Matt

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Speaker 2: is going to have a definite opinion in this case. Hey, Matt,

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Speaker 2: how are you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, my my good friend Dan Ray, the brilliant talk

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Speaker 4: show host.

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Speaker 3: I I I talked.

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Speaker 4: I got a lot of like liberal friends, a lot

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Speaker 4: of conservative friends.

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Speaker 3: You know what the liberal people are telling me.

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Speaker 5: No, this is an inside.

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Speaker 4: Job by the meansame media.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, if you're going to indict the mainstream media,

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Speaker 2: please don't identify individuals amazing.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, definitely not no.

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Speaker 5: No, I guess.

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Speaker 2: You're telling you it's an inside job by the mainstream media.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's Trump. Trump's involved in the Basically they

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Speaker 4: want it. Basically they're gonna make it look like it

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Speaker 4: was a I legal citizen who kidnapped her, and this

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Speaker 4: is going to justify I. And Trump's gonna get up

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Speaker 4: there and say, see, see this is a bad actor.

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Speaker 4: He kidnapping people. This is why we need ice. Blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah. This is what I've been told by these people.

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Speaker 2: Well, first, first of all, they are nuts. Number one. Uh, no,

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Speaker 2: number two. I don't know. I thought that they were

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Speaker 2: going to say that this was an inside job, so

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Speaker 2: the FBI could be, you know, seen in a good life.

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Speaker 2: Who are your liberal friends? Who was saying this? Those

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Speaker 2: aren't liberals, Those are nuts.

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Speaker 3: Different jobs, but these are these are like if you

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Speaker 3: saw their resumes, you would.

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Speaker 4: Think these are like really smart people. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, it's brilliant, amazing to me how the

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Speaker 4: Trump arrangement syndrome has gone to where everything is is

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Speaker 4: some kind of has to do with Trump, and it's

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Speaker 4: it's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you. I know you well enough to

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Speaker 2: believe you, and I also know that there are people

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Speaker 2: who have become well you see it, you see it

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Speaker 2: written where this guy's going to run for a third term.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to run for a third term. This

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Speaker 2: this guy is going to you know, take over the country.

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Speaker 2: You know that. Look, we have a series of checks

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Speaker 2: and balances in this country. There are too many conservatives

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Speaker 2: who if he tried to do something as crazy as that,

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Speaker 2: they would be the first people who would be filing

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Speaker 2: impeachment motions against him.

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Speaker 4: I oh god, I wanted it was just so funny.

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Speaker 5: I had to share because, oh, yeah, scary situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a scary thing.

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Speaker 5: So I just had to add, just think about.

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Speaker 2: This, this poor woman, this eighty four year old woman

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Speaker 2: who was living in relative obscurity, the mom of a

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Speaker 2: very successful, you know, network news host. Uh, and this

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Speaker 2: is what showed up at her door.

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Speaker 4: And it's definitely an inside drab. I think whoever was

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Speaker 4: saying that, I think that's it's definitely no, not in

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Speaker 4: the sense that I explained it, but in the sense of,

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Speaker 4: you know, isn't it always a family member? I mean,

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Speaker 4: when the hell has a ransom ever even been successful?

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, like, you're not getting away.

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Speaker 3: With it, like you just said.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only guy that got away with it

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Speaker 2: that I can think of, and maybe he did, maybe

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Speaker 2: he didn't. dB Cooper, Remember he was the guy that

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Speaker 2: hijacked the plane. It was oh yeah, right, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is like in the early nineteen seventies. And he

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Speaker 2: told them that he wanted whatever it was, a million

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Speaker 2: dollars in small bills to be delivered, which it was.

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Speaker 3: He didn't jump off the plane or something, yeah, oh no.

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Speaker 2: Theory. The theory was that he had he asked for

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Speaker 2: three parachutes or something, wanted to make sure that they

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Speaker 2: didn't give him a bad parachute, and they never found him.

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Speaker 2: He jumped off the plane over you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: somewhere in I don't know, state of Washington or Idaho,

563
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Speaker 2: and they don't know to this day if he survived

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Speaker 2: and whatever. That's the only one. I just think that kidnappings,

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Speaker 2: you know, you go back to the Limburg kidnapping in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties, Charles Lindberg, the oil.

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Speaker 4: Guy, the Getty, the Guiney case too. Where are you

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Speaker 4: familiar with that?

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Speaker 2: I maybe refresh my recollection, right.

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Speaker 4: So, Geddy the oil guy his got kidnapped, Yes, in Italy,

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Speaker 4: I believe. And you know, they wanted ten million dollars,

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Speaker 4: which was like pennies to this guy, and he said, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not paying it.

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Speaker 2: That he was killed and he was killed.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, he he got his like, he got his

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Speaker 4: ear cut off and they mailed the ear the guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and he ended up lit alive, but he ended up

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Speaker 4: I think he ended up killing himself because he's just

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Speaker 4: so tormented by the situation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's yeah, that was it. Yeah, and again I'm

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Speaker 2: not My feeling is the people who would engage in this,

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Speaker 2: I mean they have to be nuts. I just I

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Speaker 2: don't even understand that. You'll understand that more than me.

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Speaker 2: How they would somehow send six million dollars other than

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna send it to a Swiss bank account.

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Speaker 4: But that's the thing, though, I'm convinced, and I don't

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Speaker 4: have any knowledge of this, but all the stuff is trackable,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I mean don't I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: the FED or what. I think there's some big conglomerate

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Speaker 4: where you can actually, if you actually give a damn,

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Speaker 4: you can follow all the stuff. So, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't think the guy could get away with it. I

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Speaker 4: mean you can you can look up anyone's bitcoin transactions

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Speaker 4: on there on this.

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Speaker 3: On the map of it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you don't know whose it is. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: if there was a deposit of six million. In theory,

598
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Speaker 4: you could track all the wallets and see which one

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Speaker 4: I went to and where it gets transferred. Like I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I'm not that smart, but I can't. I

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Speaker 4: don't think that it's impossible not to be able to

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Speaker 4: track something like this. But yeah, I mean again, though

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Speaker 4: you're you're operating on the assumption that these are like

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Speaker 4: intell Uh you're operating on the assumption like these questions

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Speaker 4: you're asking. It's as if these are smart people. Anyone

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Speaker 4: wh would even think about two of this is mentally

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Speaker 4: ill to begin with, so logic isn't gonna apply.

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Speaker 2: Really, you know, I agree, I agree with you on that, Matt.

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Speaker 2: You made some great points.

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Speaker 5: And look, I haven't seen who it is.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard from me in a while. Don't be

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Speaker 2: a stranger.

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, thanks JR.

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Speaker 2: Talk soon, go take a break. I got wide open

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Speaker 2: lines here. Love to know. If you know more about

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Speaker 2: this than I do. Feel free. We're trying to sort

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Speaker 2: of do a talk show and also maintain what's going

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Speaker 2: on with this story. I think it's fascinating. Uh that,

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Speaker 2: and I and I'm very hopeful right now and I

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Speaker 2: hope that uh that that anticipation that positive result will

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Speaker 2: actually turn into a reality. I kind of imagine what

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Speaker 2: a family is going through, kidnapping, abductions. Look, this is

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Speaker 2: this is the stuff of movies, and let it. Let

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Speaker 2: it stay in the movie. Six Here we Go six one, seven, two,

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Speaker 2: five four ten thirty six one seven nine three one

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. I keep telling you that this is not

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Speaker 2: the Dan Ray Show. I've given you my points of view.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. We don't know, we

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Speaker 2: don't know what. We don't know right now, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to be on for another ten minutes. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll figure out what's going on. This story is

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Speaker 2: probably not going to be concluded until some time tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at the earliest. It would be great to think that

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Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie would be reunited with her family tonight. I mean,

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Speaker 2: eighty four year old woman should never be bothered. Whether

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Speaker 2: she's a person no one knows. So the mom of

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Speaker 2: a well known, nationally known talk show morning talk show

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Speaker 2: host with NBC, her daughter Samantha six one seven, two, five,

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Speaker 2: four ten thirty or six month, seven nine three, one

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. Your thoughts on this? This is breaking news.

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Speaker 2: It is tough to compete with breaking news as the

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Speaker 2: talk show host. But guess what, I enjoy the challenge.

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Speaker 2: I hope you'll join me. Give me a call coming

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Speaker 2: back on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b

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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just a point of personal privilege here,

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Speaker 2: we do we've yet to hear from our winner in

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Speaker 2: last Friday Nights picked the super Bowl winner very quickly.

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Speaker 2: If you were Kenneth from Waltham, you picked a Seattle victory,

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Speaker 2: and you were your score was closest to the actual score.

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Speaker 2: The actual score was Seattle twenty nine thirteen. We're all

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Speaker 2: disappointed in that here in New England. But Kenneth and Waltham,

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Speaker 2: we'll give you until I guess maybe tomorrow night's show.

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Speaker 2: And if you do not call, we're going to award

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Speaker 2: the Nightside Mug to someone else, because at this point

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Speaker 2: you you're the winner, so take advantage of it. And

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Speaker 2: if if you don't contact Rob with the name, address

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Speaker 2: and all the information we we need to send you

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Speaker 2: this your prize, your night Side Munk for having the

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Speaker 2: closest score. Kenneth from Waltham, you got about I don't

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Speaker 2: know a little less than twenty four hours, because we will,

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Speaker 2: we will, we will award it to someone else. That's

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Speaker 2: the rules. Let's go to Bud in the north up

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Speaker 2: in the North Shore. Hey, Bud, welcome, thanks for checking in.

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Speaker 2: How are you tonight?

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Speaker 5: Not too bad?

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Speaker 2: Dan?

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Speaker 9: How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. It's tough to cover a breaking news

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Speaker 2: story while you're doing your talk shows, so it's uh,

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Speaker 2: tell me, tell me what your thought in did you

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Speaker 2: think last night that we'd be talking about this story

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Speaker 2: as developing as quickly as it has.

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Speaker 9: I'm kind of disappointed that it took ten days. A

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Speaker 9: couple of quick facts I wanted to touch bait you. Currently,

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Speaker 9: we take care of an elder with a pacemaker. Okay,

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Speaker 9: So just because that pacemaker they can't find it, that

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Speaker 9: means that pacemaker is just too far away from the

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Speaker 9: monitoring station that's in the home, doesn't mean she's dead.

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Speaker 5: Two.

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Speaker 9: I've had the experience of watching a couple of elders

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Speaker 9: who were taken off of drugs and life support, and

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Speaker 9: they'll tell you, hey, they're going to be going in

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Speaker 9: five minutes. Thirty five days. One of our friends lasted

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Speaker 9: over in Beverly.

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Speaker 10: This woman could still be alive.

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Speaker 9: Bad point. The FBI will tell you if you do

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Speaker 9: not find them within forty eight hours, you're probably not

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Speaker 9: going to find them.

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Speaker 10: And this idiot who took her and thought he could

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Speaker 10: get away with hiding his face, it's got to be

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Speaker 10: an amateur. You would know that you'd have to supply

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Speaker 10: proof of life yep, which no one has. It's a

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Speaker 10: bundled attempt by some space cadet want to be and

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Speaker 10: I'm really fearing that the woman is gone.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope. I thank you for the analysis. I

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Speaker 2: hope you're not right on that one, but thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us tonight. I'm starting to run out of time.

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Speaker 2: Wish you called earlier. You seem to be pretty up

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Speaker 2: to date on some of this stuff. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 2: you much.

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Speaker 9: Well try again later, Dan, you take it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ron.

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Speaker 4: Ron.

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Speaker 2: I get you about fifteen seconds, but thank you for

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Speaker 2: calling in. That's all I got. Go right ahead, run.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Dan.

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Speaker 11: Just one positive thought is if she was on long

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Speaker 11: acting medication, the effects may last longer than the daily administration.

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Speaker 11: Just a positive thought.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a positive thought. We'll end the show on

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Speaker 2: that one. Thanks Ron, appreciate it very much so again.

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Speaker 2: If you're Kenneth from All dam you won are super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Pick them. You gotta get to Rob and you can

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Speaker 2: call them up until three o'clock tonight or to call

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Speaker 2: us tomorrow. All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.

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Speaker 2: That's why Pale Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: this very month. That's why all your pets are who passed.

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Speaker 2: They loved you and you love them. I do believe

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Speaker 2: you'll see them again, see again tomorrow night. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be on Facebook nice out with Dan Rayn about two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Join me there. I'll wrap the show for you. Have

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Speaker 2: a great Wednesday, everyone, Stay warm,