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Speaker 1: There's Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen Saturday midday.

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Speaker 2: On a stupid cold Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading we're going to get some relief from all

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Speaker 1: of that about midweek, and boy, I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you a question. What if the.

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati spent four hundred grand for a curfew

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Speaker 1: center but nobody came, well, I mean almost nobody. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we found out this week that the city spent three

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand dollars on a curfew center in

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Speaker 1: August and only four youths spent any time there. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know what, if my elder math is correct, that

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Speaker 1: comes to ninety five thousand dollars per kid.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: What a bargain it is for us taxpayers. New City

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Speaker 1: council member Ryan James, who in fairness, was not on

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Speaker 1: council when the curfew was passed, said he had quote

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Speaker 1: sticker shock close quote when he saw the cost. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably the understatement of the decade.

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Speaker 2: The city is obligated to.

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Speaker 1: Pay the three hundred and eighty grand, no matter how

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Speaker 1: many kids go there. But you know what, what the

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Speaker 1: hell I mean, it's only our money it's only taxpayer money.

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Speaker 1: And I did a little deep dive in this this week.

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Speaker 1: There are all kinds of studies out there. It's not

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Speaker 1: a liberal conservative thing, maybe a little bit, but all

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Speaker 1: kinds of studies out there that really cast a lot

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Speaker 1: of doubt whether these juvenile curfews work at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: check it out yourself if you want. And I was

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Speaker 1: surprised by the sheer number of the studies that are

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Speaker 1: out there. One in particular stood out the Office of

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Speaker 1: Justice Programs of the Department of Justice back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you can't blame this on Trump, it's

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Speaker 1: before him. This is a Biden administration. They put out

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Speaker 1: an article. It's entitled ten arguments against youth curfews. Here's

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Speaker 1: just a few of the reasons why. The few of

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Speaker 1: the ten reasons why they don't work. Number one, they're

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Speaker 1: ineffective at reducing crime. Studies show that youth curfews do

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Speaker 1: not significantly reduce crime or victimization, as most juvenile offenses

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Speaker 1: occur outside of typical curfew hours, misallocation of police resources.

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Speaker 1: Enforcing curfews waste limited police resources that could be better

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Speaker 1: used to investigate serious crime, and along those lines. This

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Speaker 1: is just me freelancing here, I dug into it, and

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Speaker 1: for three hundred and eighty grand you could hire four

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Speaker 1: or five new police officers. So I would say that

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Speaker 1: the three hundred and eighty thousand for the curfew center

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Speaker 1: where four people showed up would be a misallocation of

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Speaker 1: police resources. Another reason that the DOJ gives why curfews

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Speaker 1: aren't affect effective, it's displacement of crime. Rather than preventing it.

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Speaker 1: Curfews often just move it to different, perhaps even more

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Speaker 1: dangerous locations. And the last one I'm going to read

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Speaker 1: false sense of security. Curfews are often implemented based on

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Speaker 1: moral panic to make adults feel safer, rather than based

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Speaker 1: on evidence based strategies.

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Speaker 2: To actually improve safety. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Liberals like the ones on City Council and every last

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Speaker 1: one of them, I think it's fair to say, would

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Speaker 1: fall into that category. But liberals, they have an if

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Speaker 1: only attitude towards crime and just about everything else. Just

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Speaker 1: some examples, this is what the libs think, if only

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Speaker 1: talking about the curfews, if only we give them a

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Speaker 1: place to stay, juvenile crime will decrease, if only we

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Speaker 1: have enough programs for them.

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Speaker 2: These kids will behave.

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Speaker 1: If only we address the root causes of their behavior,

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Speaker 1: everything will be okay. They love root causes. Well, just

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Speaker 1: for the hell of it, I did a little bit

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Speaker 1: of what if and here's my what ifs, or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: if onlies, if only we return to aggressive and proactive policing,

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Speaker 1: crime would go down. And I'm not just talking about

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Speaker 1: juvenile crime, but crime in general. And if only street

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Speaker 1: cops knew that the city administration had their backs of

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Speaker 1: someone on just the campaigns about the aggressive policing, crime

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Speaker 1: would go down in the city.

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Speaker 2: I am convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of that. And finally, my.

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Speaker 1: Last if only if only the voters took a few

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Speaker 1: minutes to understand that the more cops on the street

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Speaker 1: who practive, who practiced proactive policing, the less crime there

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Speaker 1: will be. Or I guess the other solution is you

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Speaker 1: can spend three hundred and eighty grand curfew center where

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Speaker 1: four people show up and we're gonna be talking to

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman about that and other issues coming up up

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Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock. Well, kind of keeping it local here,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the Walnut Hills high school

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Speaker 1: walk out this week. Now, I'll pose a question, what

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Speaker 1: is more important with respect to high school students learning

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Speaker 1: the basics, you know, doing what they have to do

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Speaker 1: or just learning in general so they go out in

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Speaker 1: the world and kind of know what's going on. Or

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Speaker 1: is it more important to demonstrate for left wing causes? Now,

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Speaker 1: according to the Cincinnati inquire hundreds of Walnut Hills High

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Speaker 1: School students walked out of school Wednesday and for over

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Speaker 1: an hour protested US Immigration and Customs enforcement on February

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Speaker 1: fourth of this week. Of course, they have the posters

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Speaker 1: reading abolish ice and ice out for good. They held

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Speaker 1: those things above their heads. The student demonstrators numbered about

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Speaker 1: three hundred to four hundred. The Walnut Hills student demonstration

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Speaker 1: demonstration comes about ten days after the anti ice walkout

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Speaker 1: hosted by a few dozen Turfin High School students in

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Speaker 1: the Forest Hills School District.

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Speaker 2: And this is happening all over the state.

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Speaker 1: People in Franklin County up in Columbus, Dublin, Hilliard and

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Speaker 1: other places.

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Speaker 2: Other high schools did the same thing. So what is it?

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Speaker 2: What's the goal?

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Speaker 1: Learning and preparing the students for the real world or

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Speaker 1: learning left wing causes and demonstrating on behalf of same. Now,

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Speaker 1: the mantra of the teachers' unions is that they don't

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Speaker 1: want ICE in the schools.

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Speaker 2: They make that very very clear.

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Speaker 1: Here's the state mean from the OEA, the Ohio Education Association.

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Speaker 1: There group that supposedly represents the interests of students, or

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Speaker 1: excuse me, teachers who are supposed to be doing representing

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Speaker 1: the interests of students, not themselves and their unions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the quote. The Ohio Education Association quote strongly opposes

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Speaker 1: any president presence or enforcement actions by ICE in and

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Speaker 1: around public schools. Schools must remain safe, welcoming places, regardless

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Speaker 1: of immigration status, where they can grow and thrive without fear.

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Speaker 1: No child should be afraid to go to school, and

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Speaker 1: no school employees should be placed in the position of

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Speaker 1: navigating immigration enforcement. The presence of ICE in schools undermines trusts,

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Speaker 1: disrupts learning, and creates trauma for children and families. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but there's just one problem with that that

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Speaker 1: they seem to have ignored or forgotten. Ice does not

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Speaker 1: and never has had a presence in the schools, in

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Speaker 1: the high schools and grade schools. Never it's just not happening.

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Speaker 1: It's all fake news. Now listen to this. This is

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Speaker 1: from the Highland County, which is Hillsboro, and they had

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Speaker 1: some of these things up there the Highland County Press.

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Speaker 2: So a person by the name of mcquelly Elderridge, she

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Speaker 2: is a.

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Speaker 1: Paralegal at Legal Immigration Services in Dublin, said she has

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Speaker 1: not seen ICE try to detain parents when they pick

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Speaker 1: up or drop off their children at school. She said,

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Speaker 1: and I'm quoting. Sometimes people see ice around the schools

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Speaker 1: and in the neighborhoods, but we haven't seen ICE trying

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Speaker 1: to detain parents.

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Speaker 2: When they take their kids to school. Hellose quote. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: These liberal teachers at the behests of their unions, they

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Speaker 1: get the kids all riled up about this and it

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Speaker 1: just isn't an issue, can you say in doctrination, because

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. And think about this, and I

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Speaker 1: double checked this yesterday. Our high school test scores are

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Speaker 1: at an all time low.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: According to the twenty twenty four National Assessment of Educational Progress,

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Speaker 1: which is also this thing is also known as the

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Speaker 1: nation's report card. US high school seniors math and reading

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Speaker 1: scores have dropped to their lowest level in over two decades,

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Speaker 1: not two years, two decades. Nearly half forty five percent

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Speaker 1: of twelfth graders scored below basic in math, while thirty

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Speaker 1: two percent did so in reading. This decline highlights significant

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Speaker 1: learning challenges, with average scores falling below twenty nineteen levels.

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Speaker 2: Reading and math plunge.

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Speaker 1: Average reading scores for twelfth graders are at their lowest

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Speaker 1: scores math scores reached their lowest point since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five. Only twenty two percent of twelfth graders were

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Speaker 1: proficient in math in twenty twenty four, and thirty five

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're supposed to be competitive with

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Speaker 1: communists and other countries who they're not experiencing the same thing,

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Speaker 1: not even close, you know. And as this drop in

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Speaker 1: scores continues, the teachers' unions do and say anything, literally

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Speaker 2: They don't say anything about it.

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Speaker 1: They could care less about the students All they care

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Speaker 1: about is their radical liberal agenda. Now I've done this before,

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Speaker 1: but I did it again yesterday, just for the heck

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Speaker 1: of it. I look at the website for the American

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Speaker 1: Federation of Teachers. I believe they are the largest teachers union. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the the opening page. Here's what they have some

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Speaker 1: some articles here, the March to Autocracy. People are pushing

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Speaker 1: back against assaults on our freedoms. Nurses hold vigil for

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Speaker 1: Alex prediye, they call for accountability. Nurses gathered in Portland

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Speaker 1: to honor Alex Jeffrey Pretty, a thirty seven year old

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Speaker 1: registered nurse who was fatally shot by federal agents in

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Speaker 1: that he was packing a nine millimeter with two extra

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Speaker 1: him that, and about ten days before you see the

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Speaker 1: video video of him cursing out ICE officers and kicking

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Speaker 1: their tail lights out. So anyway, the front page of

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Speaker 1: the NEA website all the resources you need on immigration

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Speaker 1: and ICE. Federal immigration actions are rapidly expanding with deadly consequences.

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Speaker 1: And then there's something Randy Weingartner, who is one of

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Speaker 1: She wrote a book, Why Fascist Fear Teachers. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe she should have titled it Why Fascist Fear Teachers' Unions.

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Speaker 2: So okay, it goes on ratitude for the helpers.

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Speaker 1: Countless Americans say not on my watch, Somo SOMs service

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Speaker 1: solidarity and strategy, fighting for our patients and our democracy.

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Speaker 1: We the people say no, Kings, you get it, you

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Speaker 1: get it. You go three or four pages into this thing,

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Speaker 1: there is not one word spoken about students, not one

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Speaker 1: word about what the NEA, the largest teachers union in

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Speaker 1: the country, are doing to improve these rotten test scores.

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Speaker 1: It's all about their radical social agenda. Again, they don't

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Speaker 1: give a tinker's damn about test scores for students. They're

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Speaker 1: not interested in teaching our kids. They're only interested in

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Speaker 1: indoctrinating kids. Let me close this frant with this little clip.

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Speaker 1: Not a clip, it's a reading from the Freedom Foundation.

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Speaker 1: And the Freedom Foundation is an organization. It's a conservative

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Speaker 1: organization that kind of keeps an eye on things that

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Speaker 1: are going on in our schools, and they write about it,

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Speaker 1: and they write well about it. This is from them,

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Speaker 1: the latest Nations report card, which shows reading and mass

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Speaker 1: scores at multi decade loads. Freedom Foundation CEO Aaron wythey

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Speaker 1: released the following statement condemning teachers' unions for putting politics

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Speaker 1: Here's the statement. Listen closely to this right on the money.

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Speaker 1: During COVID, teachers' unions fought to keep schools closed and

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Speaker 1: prioritize a political agenda over our kids' education. Five years later,

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Speaker 2: Well? Another one commented, who.

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Speaker 1: Is allowing this hold the principle and teachers responsible for

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Speaker 2: Turned them onto this. So there you go. You know,

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Speaker 4: Bill?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir?

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Speaker 5: I don't have a solution, and it's very well. Two solutions. Okay.

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Speaker 5: The woman to tell you what four hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well is a curfew center? Same deal?

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Speaker 4: Well it's a daycare yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, this is the solution. People, listen, Okay, start

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Speaker 3: That's who you look at.

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Speaker 5: They hide like cowards behind the curtain people and they

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Speaker 4: Look, keep going.

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Speaker 5: It always goes back.

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Speaker 6: Okay, these kids out here, Hey, the parents should be

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Speaker 2: Well Bill, Bill, let me say that though.

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Speaker 1: When the kids walk out the door and go to school,

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I mean it's it's the

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Speaker 2: I read it somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what about in a classroom having the classes.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean that way if and teachers no, actually

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Speaker 1: well you can't do that, but guess what, cops have

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Speaker 5: Sure we're per sading to that.

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Speaker 5: I was born in nineteen sixty two. Okay, I woke

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Speaker 4: I was a third grade level.

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Speaker 5: Okay, now this is fel you and this is real.

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Speaker 3: This is what happened.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I was in I have a fifth grade education.

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Speaker 5: back was the public liberal schools and the want as

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Speaker 5: you as you're talking about. Hey, I went there, I

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Speaker 4: Really lower the standards.

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Speaker 5: They lower the standards to make it look like these kids.

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Speaker 7: Are smarter to hate.

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Speaker 5: They can keep their jugs. The Trump said it right, sir,

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Speaker 5: you got to get rid of this public education.

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Speaker 4: These are socialist.

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Speaker 5: Fascist, communists, democrats. They insist on keeping kids stupid from

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Speaker 1: I tell you what very Well said. I got to

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, Walnut Hills is a bit different, just

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Speaker 1: I hear what the dude's saying. Man, they are known

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Speaker 1: the faculty for being lips.

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Speaker 8: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Mark. Hey, Mark, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing today.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll confess I just turned on the radio about

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Speaker 2: No, I looked into it.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what the teachers did.

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Speaker 10: Mark.

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Speaker 2: You haven't calmed down. Calmed down, Please calm down.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I did my research. I read three or four

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: What did the articles say? You're reading messages off of Facebook.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're out of here. You're out of here,

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Speaker 2: you know what.

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Speaker 1: I will discuss anything with anybody at any time, discuss

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be yelled at. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: I try to be fair, you know. Okay, I read

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Speaker 1: want to talk about it, Mark, call back. But I'm

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Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be back. Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we got Mark back. We've got two March. But the

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that he called Mark and we have a discussion. Yes, sir, Okay,

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Speaker 9: Okay, you've mentioned you read three articles and you were

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, there wasn't really a lot in

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Speaker 2: But I guess what difference does that make, though? Mark?

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Speaker 9: Well, the messages you're reading off of Facebook or social

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Speaker 3: And you're telling me that the.

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Speaker 9: Actual information that you have, based on the articles that

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Speaker 9: I'm saying is is, if you're just talking about social

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Speaker 9: You should if you're reading reporting and you're puttying and reporting,

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Speaker 4: On the reporting well, and which I did. I definitely listen.

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Speaker 2: I do understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot in there about the teacher's role,

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Speaker 1: but I mean that's something that the administration could have said. No,

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Speaker 1: or if we're gonna let one side do it the

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Speaker 9: How can the school administration prevent students from walking out

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Speaker 2: It's on school time? They can that? I do?

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Speaker 4: Can they?

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Speaker 3: How can they physically do it? If the kids get up.

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Speaker 9: And look out, what mechanism do the socials have to

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Speaker 1: Then there should be some kind of discipline. I'm not

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Speaker 9: I think that consequences are are what we have to do.

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Speaker 9: And in this time, in our history and this republic,

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Speaker 9: saying that I'm angry right now because I feel our

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Speaker 1: Well listen, Mark, I told you what I was reading

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Speaker 1: Local twelve dot com. Local twelve did a pretty comprehensive

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Speaker 1: viewers would have read the article or watch it on.

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Speaker 9: TV before before they did not willing to make Why

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Speaker 9: would Why would.

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Speaker 2: Somebody be on the Channel twelve whatever all the time?

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Speaker 9: And I see people that don't have any connection to

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Speaker 9: the article, that people read headlines and get on message

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Speaker 9: boards and make comments all the time.

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Speaker 4: Jerry, Well, let me let me.

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Speaker 1: Ask you this, and I got to get to other people,

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Speaker 1: but I want to ask you the broader question. And

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Speaker 1: you can take Walnut Hills out of this, because they

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Speaker 1: are superb.

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Speaker 2: There's just no getting around that.

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Speaker 1: But the broader question of our test scores are abysmal.

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Speaker 1: They just get keep getting worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: Why don't the schools and the teachers focus on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we got to be competitive in this world now,

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Speaker 1: and we're going down the drain with these test scores.

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Speaker 9: We have attacked our public system of education on so

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Speaker 9: many different levels. Teachers are barely making above poverty level

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Speaker 9: employment and they aren't. You look at the average, it's

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Speaker 9: like thirty five forty thousand dollars a year that teachers make.

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Speaker 9: They can barely pay the rent to keep it.

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Speaker 3: Over their head.

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Speaker 9: And I have actually know and have been related to

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Speaker 9: many teachers that have spent money out of their pockets

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Speaker 9: to get the resources to their students.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that happens.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure that the voucher system is another attack on

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Speaker 9: our public education system. I think management and administration certainly

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Speaker 9: needs to answer, but the resources need to be put

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Speaker 9: in place, and it needs to be backed up by

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Speaker 9: our society.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, here's the thing. Though, I'm a poor mother.

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Speaker 1: I've got two kids going to grade school again.

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Speaker 2: I hate to keep beating on them.

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Speaker 1: CPS probably has lower test scores than the average. As

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Speaker 1: this mother, I have a chance to send them to

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Speaker 1: a charter school that has a good academic record.

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Speaker 2: What the hell am I.

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Speaker 4: Going to send them to the charter school?

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Speaker 3: I would send them to the charter school.

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Speaker 9: But I don't think that taking and carving a billion

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Speaker 9: dollars out of our public school funds in Ohio to

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Speaker 9: give it to private Christian schools is helping the public

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Speaker 9: school system. Now, I went to a Christian school. It

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Speaker 9: wasn't funded by vouchers.

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Speaker 3: I had a good education.

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Speaker 9: But that's not got anything to do with the public

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Speaker 9: charge of educating the masses of our public. Of our

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Speaker 9: public we can't do it with vouchers. So we have

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Speaker 9: to fund and we have to treat our schools in

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Speaker 9: a way that they can be effective. And if the

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Speaker 9: administrators aren't doing the right thing, they need to be

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Speaker 9: fired and new ones need to be hired. But the

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Speaker 9: teachers are making barely enough money to pay their rent. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 9: we've driven a lot of good people out of the

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Speaker 9: ranks of teachers. We have well, you know what, and weals.

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Speaker 4: Are going to do more. We you know what.

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Speaker 1: I got to let you go. Mark, But hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling back. Call again, please, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look during the break. I think teachers make

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Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. And you know, you

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Speaker 1: get three months off, four months off in the summertime.

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Speaker 1: I'm not running down teachers, my goodness. Can you think

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Speaker 1: of a more important job than teaching our kids?

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I should have asked Mark to

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Speaker 2: do this. Go to the NEA website. Look at it.

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Speaker 1: Do you see anything on there about improving test scores,

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Speaker 1: helping kids, doing things to help students' pupils, whatever the

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Speaker 1: hell you want to call them?

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Speaker 2: Learn You don't.

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Speaker 1: All you see is Trump this Trump, that ice, this ice,

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Speaker 1: that the focus is not where it should be.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we got another Mark that's been holding on a

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Speaker 2: long time. Hey, Mark, how you doing good?

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Speaker 11: Good?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 12: You know, when's the last time you saw protests of

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Speaker 12: people taxpayers going to the Board of Education and protesting

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Speaker 12: poor quality of poor quality test scores?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 12: You know, you have to look long and hard to

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Speaker 12: find that. And uh again, I think a lot of

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Speaker 12: the problems, you know, aren't really with the teachers. I

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Speaker 12: you know, I think the teachers could be part of

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Speaker 12: the solution. I think it's the Board of Education and

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Speaker 12: the leadership. You know, again, if you don't perform on

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Speaker 12: your job, you know, if you're a coach and you

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Speaker 12: don't win, you don't perform.

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Speaker 2: You lose your job.

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Speaker 12: If you don't do your job and perform on your

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Speaker 12: job at at where you work, you lose your job.

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Speaker 12: And quite frankly, you know, as they always used to say,

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Speaker 12: it all starts at the top. And I think if

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Speaker 12: the Board of Education isn't doing a good job, then

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Speaker 12: they all need to be replaced. And shame on people

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Speaker 12: that keep electing these same people that know and then complain, complain, Agree,

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Speaker 12: get an education.

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Speaker 2: I agree, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately I'm bumping up against the news, Mark, but thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call, and you know, you bring up

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Speaker 1: a very good point. And the MAGA moved is the

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Speaker 1: one that's responsible for what I'm going to say. There

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Speaker 1: are more people, grassroots people, conservative Republican people running for

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Speaker 1: school boards now than ever and that's exactly what we

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Speaker 1: need to happen.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I got to take a break, but when we.

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Speaker 1: Get back, we're going to talk to Christopher Smithman about

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. But I want to ask him

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Speaker 1: what he thinks of this walkout. I also want to

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Speaker 1: ask him what he thinks of the city of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: spending almost four hundred thousand dollars to house four kids

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Speaker 1: over the summer in this curfew thing. And we'll do

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Speaker 1: that when we get back. Mike Allen, seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and hour two

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Speaker 1: of Saturday Midday. Well, a lot going on locally and

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Speaker 1: out in the nation, and here to talk about it

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Speaker 1: with us is former Vice mayor and Cincinnati City Council

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Speaker 1: member Christopher Smithman. Christopher, thanks so much for taking some

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Speaker 1: of your time today.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Mike, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: And I think.

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Speaker 11: The conversation that we're going to have this morning it's

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Speaker 11: incredibly important at a lot of levels. And I agree

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Speaker 11: with you that we're going to touch.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let's get the big one out of the way. First,

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Speaker 1: President Obama and I didn't see it. I'm only seeing

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Speaker 1: a still from it now, as I found during the break.

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Speaker 1: Apparently not apparently, I'm looking at it. He posted something

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Speaker 1: on his truth social that depict uh President Obama and

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Speaker 1: his wife as monkeys.

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Speaker 2: Why in God's name he would do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but your thoughts, Christopher, and if you

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Speaker 1: know more about the substance of it than me, and

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Speaker 1: you know you're comfortable sharing it, I sure would like

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Speaker 1: to hear it.

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Speaker 11: So, first, Happy Black History Month to you and to

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Speaker 11: you know, your your listening audience. You know, this was

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Speaker 11: a one minute video and the most of the video

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Speaker 11: was about voter fraud. And at the end of the

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Speaker 11: video there's this clip that you're seeing there that's well

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Speaker 11: of President Barack Obama and the first Lady as primates.

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Speaker 11: And all I'll say to your listening audience is that

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Speaker 11: the President has said that he didn't do it as

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Speaker 11: Stafford did it. None of that matters. You're the president

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Speaker 11: of the United States of America. You are responsible for

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Speaker 11: your post whoever's posting there, you're responsible for that content.

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Speaker 11: Even if this is a clip that accidentally made it

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Speaker 11: on the back of a bigger clip, you're still responsible

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Speaker 11: for it. Because you're the president of the United States

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Speaker 11: of America. Three hundred and fifty million people are count

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Speaker 11: on you, counting on you to.

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Speaker 4: Make good decisions. That voted for you, and the people

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Speaker 4: that didn't vot.

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Speaker 11: For you So this is a real opportunity, I think

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Speaker 11: for President Trump to be presidential and be a leader

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Speaker 11: and just apologize, I'm sorry, this was a mistake, it

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Speaker 11: shouldn't have happened, and moved on. And I think the

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Speaker 11: more he digs in goes into you know, his personality

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Speaker 11: of not being rigid and not you know, not holding

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Speaker 11: the people around him accountable or not holding himself, it

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Speaker 11: just makes this story worse. And so you know, I'm

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Speaker 11: you know, I am a fair minded referee. This is

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Speaker 11: out of bounds. African Americans in this country were depicted

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Speaker 11: as primates through slavery.

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Speaker 13: This is real.

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Speaker 11: And very very disrespectful and hurtful to African Americans. So

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Speaker 11: this is just a this is just a bad look

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Speaker 11: for the president. And you're seeing Republicans around him call

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Speaker 11: them out saying, you know, Senator Tim Scott, and he's

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Speaker 11: getting a lot of pushback. Look, Mike, you're my white brother.

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Speaker 11: There are things that happen in the African American community

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Speaker 11: that you and I talk about. I'm your black brother,

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Speaker 11: that I call out and I say, hey, this was

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Speaker 11: not right.

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Speaker 2: If you did, I call it out right.

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Speaker 11: And so this is me calling it out on the

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Speaker 11: other side saying this is not right. And I want

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Speaker 11: to close by saying this the video also that I've

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Speaker 11: been watching in Minneapolis of the liberals who are calling

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Speaker 11: the ICE agent the N word. Many people don't even

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Speaker 11: know that video exists because Democrats have been ignoring it

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Speaker 11: all week. Mike Allan, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have not been

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Speaker 11: showing it. But Elon Musk platform X has been very

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Speaker 11: generous with their free speech and they've been showing this

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Speaker 11: video of these liberal white people looks like women calling

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Speaker 11: two different Ice agents on two different occasions this week

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Speaker 11: a house a house in Wow, Okay, and sharing and

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Speaker 11: I'm sharing with you this is happening on both sides,

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Speaker 11: and I'm going to call both of them out and

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Speaker 11: say both of them this week were outrageous and Democratic leaders,

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Speaker 11: as I'm saying here, for the president, they need to

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Speaker 11: say this was wrong and call it out.

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Speaker 1: To no question about it and get Let me make

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Speaker 1: some comments on Trump first, and again, I have not

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Speaker 1: seen it. I've got it on the screen here, just

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Speaker 1: a still of it. I don't think Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: a racist. As a matter of fact, his history I think,

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Speaker 1: both in business and public life, I mean it's just

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Speaker 1: not there. However, having said that, this is incredibly stupid.

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Speaker 2: It's just stupid. And maybe it.

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Speaker 1: Is true that he didn't watch it or didn't watch

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Speaker 1: the end of it. You know what, then shame on him.

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Speaker 1: You know it's gonna go the president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: If it's gonna go out under his name, he better

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Speaker 1: damn well know for sure what is on there. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing you mentioned, Christopher, how hard would it

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Speaker 1: be to stand up and say, guess what, folks, this

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Speaker 1: was a big mistake. I apologize to anyone that was offended.

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Speaker 1: I will put my history with respect to race relations

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Speaker 1: up against anyone's.

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Speaker 2: But this was wrong. I am sorry. How hard is that?

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Speaker 11: It's not hard. I share your perspective that President trum

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Speaker 11: is not a racist and that people have attempted to

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Speaker 11: brand him as such. This doesn't help, This doesn't help.

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Speaker 11: His reaction to it doesn't help. And so if he

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Speaker 11: wants to help, and if other leaders want to help

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Speaker 11: people who have access to him, this is one of

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Speaker 11: those presidential moments where you just say I'm sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 11: and then keep it and then keep it moving. And

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Speaker 11: I don't know why it is difficult for some leaders.

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Speaker 11: I mean to just own it. You know, I certainly

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Speaker 11: have made mistakes in the public as a public servant myself.

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Speaker 11: I certainly have made mistakes privately that I need to

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Speaker 11: apologize for.

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Speaker 3: You just say I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: And to the Democrats who are listening, because I want

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Speaker 11: to be balanced here that video that people don't know

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Speaker 11: about that is not being shown. Anybody can fact check

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Speaker 11: me on this. It is raging out there all week

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Speaker 11: of these liberal white people calling two different Ice agents

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Speaker 11: on two different occasions a house in that is completely

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Speaker 11: outrageous and disrespectful. And I'm waiting for the Cincinnati, the

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Speaker 11: National any NAACP Urban League. I want them to be balanced.

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Speaker 11: If you go to my ex account, I have called

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Speaker 11: both of them out. I've called both incidents out with

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Speaker 11: the same outrage. We need to see that from the

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Speaker 11: Democratic leadership. Just as they're calling Trump out this morning,

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Speaker 11: they need to call this incident out. And I'm not

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Speaker 11: gonna let them get off the hook. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 11: just get on here and talk about the mistaken retreat

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Speaker 11: by President Donald Trump and not talk about the other

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Speaker 11: incident that is raging that they've been hiding all week from.

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Speaker 2: And I don't get it. Christopher.

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Speaker 1: There are some people, and apparently the President is one

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Speaker 1: of them. They just can't say they made a mistake

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. And you know what, if you look

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Speaker 1: at it historically Ronald Reagan, you might recall Iron Contra.

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Speaker 2: At first, he said, hey, I didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know, the hostages were not exchanged for weapons.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Well then when it finally settled upon him, well yeah

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Speaker 1: I did, he goes on TV and admits the mistake.

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Speaker 1: I think his words are something along the line of,

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Speaker 1: in my heart, I believe that I didn't do anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: but the facts are otherwise. His poll numbers shot up

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Speaker 1: the whole situation with Kennedy. When he got in that

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Speaker 1: thing with the bay of pigs, it was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: He was on TV the next day apologizing for it

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Speaker 1: and taking responsibility for it. His approval rating shot up

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Speaker 1: into the sixties. So I think we're a forgiving country.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know why. A simple I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: blew it. You know it won't happen again. I don't,

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Speaker 1: But that's just me. But hey, look we got a

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Speaker 1: couple other things talk about too. But I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: brought that up that needed to be aired out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get thank you so much.

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Speaker 11: I want to and I want to say to you

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Speaker 11: that you being my white brother and me being your

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Speaker 11: black brother, it's important that these kinds of discussions happen. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 11: everybody around us in our community understands that we're fair

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Speaker 11: handed and that we will call out both sides as

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Speaker 11: we are discussing these important issues in our country. So

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Speaker 11: I thank you for that, and I thank you for

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Speaker 11: our relationship now.

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Speaker 2: And that goes double for me, Christopher.

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Speaker 1: As you know, we met under some kind of unusual circumstances,

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Speaker 1: but you have become one of my best friends. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put that out there, and I love

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Speaker 1: talking to you.

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Speaker 4: I do, yes, sir, Okay, commutual.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this. I got to ask you this. Three

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand dollars for a actually plural curfew

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Speaker 1: centers for the city of Cincinnati, apparently over the summer

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Speaker 1: where actually four are counting four people at kids actually

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Speaker 1: use them. Your thoughts on that, I mean, obviously it's

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Speaker 1: an incredible waste of money, But I guess my question

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Speaker 1: is kind of long lines of how can something like

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Speaker 1: this happen?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know what happens is you have a council

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Speaker 11: and a mayor that are window dressing a big issue, right,

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Speaker 11: And you and I know it's very, very complicated to

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Speaker 11: solve because it takes some community resolve. Parents and aunts

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Speaker 11: and uncles have to be involved. We have to make

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Speaker 11: sure that we get fathers more involved with their sons.

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Speaker 11: Very important. We can't have fatherless homes to break down

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Speaker 11: of the family American family. And so we're asking our

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Speaker 11: cops to solve all these problems, and we're asking our

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Speaker 11: government to solve these problems that they can't solve. And

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Speaker 11: so part of this is politicians who are just reacting

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Speaker 11: instead of trying to get at the root of things.

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Speaker 11: And you know, it's not that it wasn't a good thought.

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Speaker 11: We're going to have a recreation center open, but bad

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Speaker 11: kids aren't going to the recreations of us. That's not

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Speaker 11: where they're going. That's the problem. They're down on the

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Speaker 11: banks with guns and they're beating people up and they're

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Speaker 11: robbing people. And so the dollars would have been better

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Speaker 11: spent right being proactive, doing proactive policing and having a

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Speaker 11: community that supports us holding those youth accountable and when

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Speaker 11: there are those incidents that we just know can happen,

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Speaker 11: those split second decisions, that we have a community. When

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Speaker 11: I say community, I'm talking all of us, all fifty

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Speaker 11: two neighborhoods that are saying, listen, we're going to support

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Speaker 11: our law enforcement as they're out there trying to get

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Speaker 11: our city back on track and get our community safe.

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Speaker 11: And that means not just District one downtown. That's all

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Speaker 11: of our community. All of our fifty two neighborhoods deserve

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Speaker 11: that kind of police support. And so the rec centers

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Speaker 11: look good on paper, it looks like that politicians are

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Speaker 11: trying to do something, but it's really just them window

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Speaker 11: dressing an issue that they really just don't have an

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Speaker 11: answer to it. And that's what's really sad.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what about from just a sheer economics standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're three hundred and eighty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: into it, maybe a couple months or a month goes

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Speaker 1: by and nobody shows up, wouldn't you think it would

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Speaker 1: be incumbent upon the city staff, perhaps a solicitor's office,

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Speaker 1: to try to find a way to get out of

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Speaker 1: that contract. Because just playing around yesterday, Christopher and I

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Speaker 1: invoked AI and everything else. You can hire since four

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Speaker 1: to five Cincinnati cops per year for that amount of money,

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, more than anything, it's a financial thing.

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Speaker 1: And you and I have talked ad nauseum about the

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Speaker 1: way the City of Cincinnati waste money. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that from the financial perspective?

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Speaker 11: No, I agree. I mean those imagine four officers placed

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Speaker 11: in our hotspot. Let's say that's Avondale with the other

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Speaker 11: support that's happening there. What would that do for North

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Speaker 11: for Avondale. But here's what I want to share with you.

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Speaker 11: This is an idea that I've had and I'll give

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Speaker 11: this to the mayor and members of council. Why not

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Speaker 11: look at all of our employees and see when they're working.

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Speaker 11: You negotiate with the unions and change some of the

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Speaker 11: schedules of when trash is picked up, when roads are

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Speaker 11: repaired in some of these hotspots. So for example, we

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Speaker 11: don't have to fix the roads between eight and five,

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Speaker 11: Let's fix them between nine and four in the morning.

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Speaker 11: Light up these communities with workers right that are out

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Speaker 11: every day they're tearing up the streets, right, they're picking

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Speaker 11: up our trash. I mean, the part of the reason

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Speaker 11: for crime is it's it's in the shadows, and we

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Speaker 11: need to light them up, meaning light up literally the

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Speaker 11: areas where we're having some of these problems and then

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Speaker 11: allow our police officers to do proactive policing. Mike Allen,

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Speaker 11: we will never solve crime in an anti cop city

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Speaker 11: council mayor's office. Right, officers do not trust the elected,

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Speaker 11: so there they have families, they're human beings, and so

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Speaker 11: when you have an anti cop environment from the mayor's office,

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Speaker 11: the nine members of council who continue to tell us

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Speaker 11: they do not like law enforcement, they pronounce it with resolution,

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Speaker 11: they pronounce it with their language.

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Speaker 3: There is no way.

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Speaker 11: To our our fifty two neighborhoods. We will ever get

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Speaker 11: our arms around crime with an anti cop fitty council

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Speaker 11: and anti cop mayor.

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Speaker 2: You are so we're going to have a really.

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Speaker 11: Tough four years, buddy. This is going to be a

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Speaker 11: very tough summer. I have to let you know it's

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Speaker 11: going to be one full of violence and lack of

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Speaker 11: answers from the mayor. The elections have consequences and we

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Speaker 11: now have to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, that's a good way to

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Speaker 2: put it.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with you, and we definitely will keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on it, but we're out of time now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Christopher.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in and your sincere words that

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Speaker 1: you spoke. Anything that comes out of your mouth I

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Speaker 1: know is sincere, So I appreciate it much.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Mike. And I want people to follow me

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Speaker 11: on social media at vote Smitherman and they can see

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Speaker 11: both videos where I posted that. And I am wanting

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Speaker 11: to be a balanced leader in our community and call

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Speaker 11: out both sides when they make a mistake. Let's have

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Speaker 11: President Trump just say I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thank Michael, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Christopher, you know, and that's what I was

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Speaker 1: gonna A little bit short on time, a lot short

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Speaker 1: on time, but I couldn't agree more. What is so

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Speaker 1: hard about, Hey, ladies and gentlemen. I made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: It was a stupid mistake. It was a mistake. I'm

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Speaker 1: not That's not the way I am. But I apologize

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Speaker 1: to the public, and I apologize to the Obamas. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: my guess is his numbers would go up because it

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Speaker 1: shows that he's human. I don't get it, but you

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Speaker 1: know it's not my say. I love the guy. I

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Speaker 1: will continue to love him, but I don't know. Just

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Speaker 1: say you're sorry, mister president. Hey, we got to take

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Speaker 1: a break. But when we get back, open lines, open lines,

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Speaker 1: seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big

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Speaker 1: one are the numbers. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 14: TVUSA is off to a perfect start in mixed doubles curling.

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Speaker 1: Corey tfe Hey, I'm going to get to the phones here.

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Speaker 1: I got a number of people want to talk, but

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Speaker 1: I gotta get this off my chest. It won't take long.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it the last couple of weeks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you may recall Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson, and she is

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Speaker 1: a dangerous liberal from central casting.

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Speaker 2: If you see her.

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Speaker 1: She announced new measures to prepare for potential enforcement, including

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Speaker 1: a hotline, legal funding, and limits on federal use of

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Speaker 1: city property. Because, of course, the only thing that matters

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Speaker 1: is make sure that we take care of people who

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Speaker 1: trespass into our country illegally. Anyway, She signed this order

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Speaker 1: barring ICE from using city owned properties, including parks, garages,

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Speaker 1: and the Seattle Center for Civil Enforcement. The mayor also

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Speaker 1: directed Seattle police to investigate this is the offensive part. Investigate,

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Speaker 1: verify and document ICE activity using body cameras and ID

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Speaker 1: checks to gather evidence for potential prosecution. And again we

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Speaker 1: talked about you know, that's cop on cop, that's law

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Speaker 1: enforcement officer on law enforcement AFSER, and that is a

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Speaker 1: prescription for disaster. At just not going to work well.

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Speaker 1: And I've been waiting for this guy by the name

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Speaker 1: of Mike Solan, so la n. He is the president

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Speaker 1: of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, which is really their FOP.

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Speaker 1: He said, no, baby, nah, we ain't doing that. Here's

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Speaker 1: his quote. It's so good toothless virtue signaling. Rhetoric like

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Speaker 1: this has already cost two people of their lives. The

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Speaker 1: concept of pitting two armed law enforcement agencies against each

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Speaker 1: other is ludicrous and will not happen.

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Speaker 2: I will not allow.

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Speaker 1: Seattle Police Officers Guild members to be used as political ponds.

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much, mister Solan for having the

879
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Speaker 1: stones to do that. So what he's saying is, Mayor,

880
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Speaker 1: you can go to hell. You're not going to use

881
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Speaker 1: my police officers that way, and it was probably the

882
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Speaker 1: best thing I saw all week. All right, back to

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Speaker 1: the phones, Barry in Miamisburg has been holding forever. Hey Barry,

884
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: thanks for being patient.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning. How's it going good?

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Speaker 2: How about you?

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Speaker 10: I wanted to comment on a few of your earlier callers. Sure,

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Speaker 10: First of all, if you are a high school student,

889
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Speaker 10: they don't let you leave en mass to go protest

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Speaker 10: without administration approval.

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00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just falk out.

892
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Speaker 10: Of the school with you and twenty or more of

893
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Speaker 10: your buddies and go to a protest without approval.

894
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: That's what I kind of figured.

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Speaker 1: And again, wouldn't it be better concentrating on reading, writing,

896
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Speaker 1: and arithmetic?

897
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Speaker 2: But hey, that's just me.

898
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Speaker 10: Well that's what we pay our taxes for. Yeah, you

899
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Speaker 10: will poke the garbage, but we pay our taxes for reading, math, science.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera.

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00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 10: Yep, you're absolutely right, getting according to test scores.

902
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: Which are awful by the way.

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00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 10: All right, what else you got if you look up

904
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Speaker 10: using Google or your favorite search tool. The federal government

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Speaker 10: pays in access of thirteen thousand dollars per student per

906
00:54:51,360 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 10: year every year for education now then granted by the time.

907
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 10: It gets wasted on every level of government every day.

908
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 10: That might not what gets to your local school, but

909
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 10: we spend more money than you can believe on education

910
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 10: and it gets wasted every day. Get taxpayer revolution not

911
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 10: voting yet, I'm more taxes every year.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 10: If you look up State of Ohio, teach your salaries,

914
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Speaker 10: granted there's a six figures, but most counties they are

915
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Speaker 10: higher than the county average for the taxpayers who are

916
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Speaker 10: paying for them. You can't say whoe with me, I'm

917
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Speaker 10: not paid enough. When you knew from the beginning what

918
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Speaker 10: you were going to get paid, and you're making more

919
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 10: than the average hack fare who's paying for you is.

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's right, And keep in mind, you know you

921
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: get three months off in the summertime.

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Speaker 2: I'm not running down teachers. I'm not. It's a hard job.

923
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Speaker 2: It's an important job. But I don't think teacher pay.

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Speaker 1: Probably in some poorer districts, rural maybe, but not in

925
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Speaker 1: the metropolitan areas, their pay is not bad.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not batching on the teachers. I'm bashing

927
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Speaker 10: on the people who were calling you following the script. Yeah,

928
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 10: when that script is absolutely provably wrong.

929
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Speaker 1: I hear you, Barry. Hey, listen, I gotta move on.

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00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: I got a ton of calls, but thank you for

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Speaker 1: your call.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate it. And y'all have a nice face.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Barry you too. All right, let's talk to Lois

934
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. She wants to talk about private school teachers.

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Speaker 2: Pay. Hey, Lois, thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 15: Thank you. Just like the other guy said, I talked

937
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Speaker 15: for thirty four years Free Archdiocese, and at that time

938
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Speaker 15: we made two thirds of what maybe not even two

939
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Speaker 15: thirds of what a public school teacher makes. So I

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Speaker 15: don't think that the quality of education is only tied

941
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Speaker 15: up with higher salaries.

942
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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: As a former student of a Catholic grade school and

944
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Speaker 1: high school, I couldn't agree with you more. And I

945
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Speaker 1: have heard the same thing that it was about. I

946
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Speaker 1: don't know two thirds of what public school teachers make,

947
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Speaker 1: but I just want to let you know I know

948
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Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about.

949
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Speaker 15: Well, nobody seems to. I'm sure it's gone up since

950
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Speaker 15: I retired, but you know, the salaries certainly have gone up,

951
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 15: but even the retirement programs and all of that other stuff.

952
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 15: You know, I'm a teacher. I don't want to bash

953
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Speaker 15: on teachers either, So that's just nobody ever says or

954
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Speaker 15: asked the question how much do the charter school teachers

955
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Speaker 15: make and how much do the private school teachers make? Yep,

956
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Speaker 15: and is that a big factor?

957
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: Well, and you you all, uh in the Catholic schools

958
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Speaker 1: didn't have a union.

959
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 15: To Oh no, no, no, you're not a bad word.

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00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. That's what I thought. You didn't

961
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Speaker 2: teach it sant Antoninus, by any chance, did you?

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Speaker 15: Lowis no in Hamilton?

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00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well you didn't have to put up with me. Then,

964
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Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 15: Okay, thank you, bye.

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Speaker 2: She is so right, she is so right. Man.

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Speaker 1: I thought the wars with the nuns, the Dominican nuns

968
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Speaker 1: at sant Antoninus, however, uh, in retrospect, in hindsight, they

969
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: were so dedicated, so dedicated, and I know they weren't

970
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: making anybody, and they were a Dominican sisters, but they

971
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: cared about us, and they cared about learning, you know,

972
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you had to learn the basics. We weren't

973
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: out there carrying signs, you know, protesting the Vietnam War

974
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: and other things. It's I think those teachers are unsung

975
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: heroes in my humble opinion. Hey, let's talk to Joel.

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Speaker 1: He is in Sonny, Naples. Joel, how you doing.

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Speaker 16: I might come. It's an honor to talk to you.

978
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Speaker 16: And I haven't been in Cincinnati for You're welcome for

979
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Speaker 16: twenty two years. But my father taught at Xavier.

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00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: He's deceased, histology.

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Speaker 16: And compared anatomy for.

982
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Speaker 3: Forty four years at Xavier University.

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Speaker 16: And not to put Xavier down, but at the time.

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00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: Professors didn't make that much either. But I don't want

985
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: to talk about sellaries.

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Speaker 16: And make this quick, Okay that I love your last

987
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 16: call or the yeah no not, I mean, I don't

988
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 16: mean the woman. I mean, I mean she was great too.

989
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 16: But you're a city council member, former citytens. Oh, Christopher, Yeah, Christopher.

990
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 16: He sounds very level headed. And I have an idea

991
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 16: for Cincinnati and I want to come back and visit,

992
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 16: but I can't do it right now. But people who

993
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 16: have it's not a massive necessary money. But why don't

994
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 16: why don't make you know these kids that are roaming

995
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 16: the streets instead of you know, and I know there's

996
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 16: a lot of bad juveniles, but they can you know,

997
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 16: people can change, but and schools, why don't they have

998
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 16: places where they're you know, not necessarily that, you know,

999
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 16: the daycare center, But ask them what they would be

1000
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 16: interested in doing. I don't mean, you know, robbing people,

1001
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 16: are selling drusts or doing things like that. But but

1002
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 16: educate them these people that you know, these kids that

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Speaker 16: want to go out and protest, Ask them if they

1004
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 16: if they can, if they know the Bill of Rights,

1005
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 16: if they understand the Constitution, if they understand the three

1006
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 16: three branches of government and how they operate. Yeah, because no,

1007
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 16: because without our system, they won't even be able to

1008
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 16: do that. They don't understand that that them just getting

1009
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Speaker 16: out and vocalizing in other countries.

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Speaker 11: You you know, you.

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 16: Get your whatever you get, you get killed or you

1012
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 16: get put in prisident or even even at their age,

1013
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 16: and and why don't they, you know, even even maybe

1014
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 16: on this show, maybe some of the people that can

1015
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 16: support a fund or something like that do it.

1016
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: So like have educate civics.

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Speaker 16: And have them call in and say, hey, you know,

1018
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 16: we're going to meet in this group today, kind of

1019
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 16: like Charlie Kirk did with you know, with his with

1020
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 16: his organization and have them, come out and say what

1021
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 16: would interest you to learn better in school? You know,

1022
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 16: what can we do to make them more interesting? But

1023
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 16: we want to incorporate civics. We want you to understand government.

1024
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 16: We want you to know how to also to how

1025
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 16: to do daily things, balance the checkbook, open account.

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that's a great idea, Joel,

1027
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: I really do, because I don't think there's enough emphasis

1028
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: on civics.

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 16: And teach them how to cook, and teach them how

1030
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 16: to just do basic living, because it sounds like a

1031
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 16: lot of them don't even have a basic environment where

1032
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 16: they can understand that. And tell them you're you're worth something.

1033
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 16: You know, maybe at Wow come out with a T

1034
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 16: shirt a sale and say you're worth something, You're you're

1035
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 16: our future. We you know, a dollar a dollar for

1036
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 16: or ten dollars for a T shirt or somebody out

1037
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 16: there that can produce the T shirts.

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 11: Yep, I get it.

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01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 16: Instead of pulling it from the community of taxes, get

1040
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 16: people involved. If they really want to do it, then

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 16: they'll send ten dollars in a T shirt and brandish it.

1042
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, here you that's a good idea too. I got

1043
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: to move on though, Joel. Because I got a lot

1044
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: of calls here, but thank you for that, thank you,

1045
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: great call. Okay, you know, and I like what he

1046
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: said about civics. It's so important, and I don't know.

1047
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: I used to have a friend who had young kids

1048
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: in a camp of grade school, and oh, this is

1049
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: probably fifteen years ago, and I would look at her

1050
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: kids civics books, history. They had some other names for

1051
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: it too, And I think it was fine in the

1052
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: Camplic schools, and of course my kids too, Lord knows

1053
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: what they are teaching them now in public schools.

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: Civics is important.

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01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm saying that guy's about the only subject

1056
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: that was any good at because I was interested in

1057
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: it and carried on into my adult life. We need that,

1058
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 1: I think now more than ever. Anyway, let's see who's

1059
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: next here. Hey, let's talk to doctor Dennis in Annapolis.

1060
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: Doc, how you doing okay? Mike?

1061
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 2: How you doing good? Good?

1062
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 4: What you got good?

1063
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: Okay?

1064
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 13: Well you mentioned about the well quickly do you mention

1065
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 13: about the police being turned against the other police? And

1066
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 13: is it the Washington or Oregon?

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Speaker 2: It's Oregon, Portland, Oregon, Oregon.

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 13: Then the Democrats who that during the Civil War, the

1070
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 13: beginning of the Civil War, brother against brother. Yeah, but yeah,

1071
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 13: But anyway, you have the caller who was taught who

1072
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 13: kind of got on you about the story about students protesting.

1073
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 13: Whether it was a true story or not. Was that

1074
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 13: out of Portland too, I don't know.

1075
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Speaker 1: He didn't say, I don't think, and he got a

1076
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: little bit funky, and you know, I had to let

1077
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Speaker 1: him go. Yeah, but then he called back and we

1078
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: had a civil conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he.

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Speaker 4: Did, right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, but you know that I did read something

1082
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 13: about that. Then there were some things up on the

1083
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Speaker 13: internet said, oh, that was all false and it was

1084
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 13: all made up and all that. But I will tell

1085
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Speaker 13: you that I came across the story that the teachers

1086
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 13: did utilize students as ponds up at Yale. This is

1087
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Speaker 13: I have a reference for it from the Yale Daily News.

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 13: It happened in one in which a local Monassory school,

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Speaker 13: specifically Elm City Montossuri, led a protest against police violence,

1090
01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 13: reasing fourth graders students from fourth to sixth grade. The

1091
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 13: pro deverpenty. It was a an kind of between the

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Speaker 13: police and a black man, and a black man got shot,

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Speaker 13: so that's what they were protesting about it. So that

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Speaker 13: you know that's a US students as ponds. These students

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Speaker 13: don't have to have the time know what their protrain.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't, they don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a clue.

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Speaker 4: Doc, I gotta have a clue.

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Speaker 1: I got to move on. I got a lot of callers.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to squeeze a few more in,

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Speaker 1: But thank you for your call. As always, I appreciate it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got a principal Jason from Middletown. Jason, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for calling in.

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Speaker 17: Hey, Mike Sigma, call this money. Hey, little feedback on

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Speaker 17: some of these things that's happened in public education right now.

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Speaker 17: One of the things that we're seeing within our rural

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Speaker 17: community is, you know, we can't pass levies and things

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Speaker 17: of that nature. But what's happened in the state is

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Speaker 17: taking cutting our has cut our money so drastically that

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01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 17: we have to continue to ask for more money from

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Speaker 17: our taxpayers than our community. Thus, the state's got all

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Speaker 17: these reserves. You know, they're starting to put in some

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 17: things now in place with our holdover and our carrierver

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Speaker 17: we're allowed to carry each year.

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Speaker 7: You know, your charter schools.

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Speaker 17: You know, they have carriers one hundrellion dollars or what,

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 17: and we as public schools, we don't get that opportunity.

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Speaker 17: And they're starting to cut that. You know, what point

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Speaker 17: do we take and we look at choice and then

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Speaker 17: have the conversation of these private schools actually becoming public schools,

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Speaker 17: you know, because the standards in which they have to

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Speaker 17: support as much different.

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Speaker 1: We have a public school that's interesting and you know

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Speaker 1: what you're cutting out a little bit, but I think

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Speaker 1: I got the gist of adjacent. Are you suggesting that

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Speaker 1: the successful charter schools would become part of the public

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Speaker 1: school system, because it's an interesting thought.

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Speaker 17: So if you look at if you look at our

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Speaker 17: special education kids, right, everyone's in child that positive education. Well,

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Speaker 17: your procho schools and your charter schools they pick and

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Speaker 17: choose who they want to come through those doors. Public

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Speaker 17: schools do not get that opportunity to pick that. So

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Speaker 17: when we look at performance base, we look at report

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Speaker 17: cards and assessments and things.

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Speaker 7: Of that nature. Your pro col your charter schools.

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Speaker 17: Aren't tests at the same.

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Speaker 7: Level as your public schools are.

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Speaker 17: So that's why we continue to see failing quote public

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Speaker 17: schools because we're really not matched.

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Speaker 7: Against the right data in the right school districts.

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Speaker 17: So I think the biggest frustration as a public school

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Speaker 17: principle is they continue to cut fum. I mean, we

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Speaker 17: continue to at our taxpayers in our community. They're aggravated

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Speaker 17: at us because we continue to ask for money, so

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Speaker 17: we really are spending our money appropriately. So it's kind

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Speaker 17: of my thoughts today.

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Speaker 1: I got it, and I really appreciate the call. Jason,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I got his perspective, you know. And again, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess I am knocking public schools, but not all

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Speaker 1: of them. I mean there's some good ones out there too.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we talked earlier too about Walnut Hills.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's an incredible school. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they do it. They're one of the best in the country,

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Speaker 1: not best public schools, best high schools in the country.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it can be done. But well, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate the job that he does as principal too,

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: because I can imagine a harder job than that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we have to take a break, button we get back boys.

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Speaker 1: Some good news, some really good news on the whole

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Speaker 1: transitioning nonsense this week, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: it with attorney James Bogan. James, as you know, follows

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Speaker 1: that stuff and he's all over it. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk to James when we get back. Mike Allen Saturday

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Speaker 1: mid News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen with Hour three,

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: which is the third and final hour of Saturday Midday. Well,

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Speaker 1: big news this week on the boys pretending to be

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: girls issue. A person by the name of Fox Verian,

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: who is a twenty two year old woman who identified

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01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: as a boy in her teen years one a Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for this two million dollar landmark decision in

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: a case against New York doctors who were accused pushing

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: a double masstectomy on her when she was a minor.

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Speaker 1: Here to talk about it is attorney and former NCAA

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Speaker 1: athlete James Bogan. He's also the host of the popular

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Speaker 1: podcast Past the Clock, which can be heard on iHeart

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Speaker 1: Apple and Spotify. Also, I want to mention he is

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Speaker 1: James is a product of legal immigration and it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good story.

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Speaker 2: James, How are you good?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Mike?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me today.

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Speaker 1: If you want, will you tell the story of I

1186
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: guess how you came to be living here and your

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Speaker 1: mom and your family became American.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, my mom came here from Hong Kong in the

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Speaker 8: late fifties as a legal immigrant, first as on a

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Speaker 8: student visa. She worked her way through college and she

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Speaker 8: eventually got her citizenship legally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And you know, over the year she did have to

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Speaker 8: put up with racism and sex and and so on.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is back in like the late fifties,

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Speaker 8: early sixties. You know, all the way through, you know,

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Speaker 8: things weren't quite the way they are now.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, she didn't cry about it, right,

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Speaker 3: She rolled over sleeves, pulled over boots and got to work.

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Speaker 8: I mean, when I was old enough to be left

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Speaker 8: alone without getting myself killed, she started her own business,

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Speaker 8: does very well as a financial planner and doing accounting too,

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Speaker 8: and no handouts, nod, I know nothing.

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Speaker 4: And you know the other.

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Speaker 8: Thing if you want to talk to her about oppression.

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Speaker 8: My grandparents. She was born in Hong Kong in nineteen

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Speaker 8: thirty nine. My grandparents left Hong Kong when things were

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Speaker 8: heating up with the Japanese Imperial Army around that time.

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Speaker 8: If they hadn't left Hong Kong, I might not be

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Speaker 8: I probably wouldn't be here. And to top it off,

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Speaker 8: when they were living in Vietnam for eleven years, one

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Speaker 8: day the Viet Coong came looking for my grandpa.

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Speaker 3: This after they're there for about eleven years.

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Speaker 8: They didn't like educated Chinese and they like to round

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Speaker 8: them up and put them in camps. You got the

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Speaker 8: heck out of there, and within a year the rest

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Speaker 8: of the family rejoined.

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Speaker 3: Them in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 8: So, yeah, there's a bit of history here. And it's

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Speaker 8: just like with all this stuff about hey, let's just

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Speaker 8: let people in this country whole sale and put them

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Speaker 8: all kinds of welfare and everything else, it's like, come on, well.

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Speaker 1: You know what, and there you go. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: exhibit a of how it should be done.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 1: People talk about, well, you know these people, these are

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Speaker 1: they just don't want immigrants. Yeah, we do, but we

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01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,440
Speaker 1: want them like your mother did it legally.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you. You mentioned Hong Kong.

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Speaker 1: Is she keeping an eye on what's going on over

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Speaker 1: there for reasons?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, the British gave it up to the Chinese.

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Speaker 8: She's not going Yeah, she was actually trying to push

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Speaker 8: her siblings to move out of there back when the

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Speaker 8: Chinese were about to take it over back in ninety six.

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Speaker 8: Oh and by the way, my mom absolutely detests illegal

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Speaker 8: immigrants who hut, you it the wrong way and cut

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Speaker 8: the line.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Does she ever talk about and this is way off subject,

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: but does she ever talk about why the British.

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Speaker 2: Gave it up? I mean, it was a case I's.

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Speaker 8: Never talked about. She's never talked about that. But if

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Speaker 8: you get her started on communist China, it's live entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Yep. I'm gonna tell her you said that, James.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, you know.

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 3: What she would if you ever talked to her about that.

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Speaker 3: She keeps up on that stuff.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's a wealth of information and she definitely has

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Speaker 8: very strong opinions about things over there.

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Speaker 1: Well, she did it the right way. Hey, down to

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Speaker 1: business here, man. This is a big case, is it not.

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Speaker 1: I think you correct me if I'm wrong, James. This

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Speaker 1: is the first case of this nature that actually went

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Speaker 1: to trial and got a positive jury verdict two million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of walk us through the case and what happened.

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's about twenty eight d transitional lawsuits nationwide. That's

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 8: the first one to actually go to trial and win

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 8: a judgment and the jury concluded that's a psychologist and

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Speaker 8: the surgeon involved in this case.

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Speaker 3: Departed from a standard of care by.

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 8: Pressuring miss aryan ending getting permanent surgery. I mean, they

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 8: basically used scare tactics on her mom, who, by the way,

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Speaker 8: was against it, but she acquiesced because she thought they

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 8: were They convinced her that her daughter was going to

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Speaker 8: commit suicide. And you know, the jury was like, hold on,

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Speaker 8: you gotta screen for psychological conditions, which the evidence the

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Speaker 8: trial showed they myth that she had depression, ADHD, autism,

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Speaker 8: body dysmorphia, and and you know, they just blew right

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Speaker 8: past that stuff. And the surgeon only met with Msvarian

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Speaker 8: twice before her surgery to thirty minute meetings.

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Speaker 2: Meetings.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean, I don't know, and they obviously

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Speaker 8: whisked her through this.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked about this before back in the eighties

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Speaker 3: when I was growing up.

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Speaker 8: When I hear about adults doing this stuff, you would

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 8: hear that they had would have to live for a

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Speaker 8: year or so with the opposite gender before they even

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01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 8: prescribed hormones. But with nowadays, with teens where we all

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Speaker 8: know how their brains aren't even close to being fully developed. Gee,

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Speaker 8: let's give them hormones after one thirty minute meeting, or

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 8: let's give them surgery right away.

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Speaker 4: Let's get them on the fast track.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and there you go, and here's the

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Speaker 1: fruits of that labor. I suppose I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you too, and we've talked about this a number of times.

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Speaker 1: The Cash Report out of the UK, I mean they

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Speaker 1: recommended some years ago, I guess that no one under

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Speaker 1: the age of eighteen get these hormone drugs, and that

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Speaker 1: quoting from the report here, great caution should be exercised

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Speaker 1: with patients under twenty five. Experts, I guess are still

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: pushing not just hormones, but surgery for kids experiencing this

1295
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: alleged gender dysphori Are people paying attention to what is

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: in the CAST report because you and I have talked

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: about a number of times. It sure appears to be

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Speaker 1: pretty reliable.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, most of this country I think, spoke on that

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 8: issue in the presidential election in November twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 8: Sex changes for teens, I mean this CAST report, it's

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Speaker 8: a three hundred and eighty eight page report. It's not

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 8: just some two page internet blog and it was out

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 8: of the UK, which they're not exactly the most conservative

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01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 8: country out there, right, so this isn't something that was

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 8: cooked up by MAGA. And the CAST report also unk

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Speaker 8: the myth that kids deny these treatments.

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Speaker 4: Will kill themselves.

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Speaker 8: And then you remember we've talked about that separate fifteen

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Speaker 8: year Dutch study that came out about the same time

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Speaker 8: that confirmed that this gender dysphoria stuff tends to go

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Speaker 8: away near the end of puberty.

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Speaker 4: And again, this is the Dutch.

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Speaker 8: They're not exactly a conservative country either, and you're having

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Speaker 8: you know, the biggest culprits I think for pushing this

1316
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,879
Speaker 8: stuff is the American Academy of Pediatrics, which they support

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 8: every left wing cause, imaginable gun control, Obamacare, vaccine mandates

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Speaker 8: even for kids, shutting down schools and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: Anything that's far left.

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Speaker 4: They're all over it.

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Speaker 8: And they're actually, as we talked about, they're actually the

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Speaker 8: subject of another de transitioner lawsuit that we've talked about, Yeah,

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01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 8: because one of their doctors. But so, but it's actually

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Speaker 8: refreshing that the American Academy of Plastic Surgeons past week

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01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 8: actually spoke out against this nonsense too. We finally have

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Speaker 8: another doctors group coming up and stepping up.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you and you talk about that Dutch study.

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Speaker 1: It confirmed from what I understand that transgenderism among children is,

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Speaker 1: according to them, they believe, largely a fad. Then you

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Speaker 1: go back to the CAST report, the three hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty eight page review. I'm going to quote from that

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: gender medicine for children and young people is built on

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Speaker 1: shaky foundations. I mean, how much more does the medical

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Speaker 1: and scientific community need.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's right there.

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Speaker 8: Well, you still have people who are blinded by their ideology,

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 8: who are absolutely convinced that they know better than everybody else.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you've got the American Academy of Pediatrics that

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Speaker 8: says we're doctors, we know better, and you don't question us.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Well, on Tuesday too, I wanted to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about this, and this is big. This got reported fairly frequently.

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Speaker 1: The American Society of Plastic Surgeons, they represent apparently about

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Speaker 1: eleven thousand physicians globally. They publish a position statement recommending

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Speaker 1: that surgeon's delay quote gender related breast slash chest, genital

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Speaker 1: and facial surgery until a patient is nineteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that one coming, James, or was that

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Speaker 1: a surprise to you?

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Speaker 8: That was a surprise because in this country doctors who

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Speaker 8: speak out about this nonsense have been ostracized by the

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Speaker 8: rest of the medical community, basically shunned into silence.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: Just getting back to the case itself, obviously still at

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Speaker 1: the trial stage, I would assume it would have to

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Speaker 1: go through all the appellate courts.

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Speaker 2: Any thought on that or any.

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Speaker 4: Comment on that, I think you'll be held up.

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Speaker 8: And the thing is, keep in mind New York is

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Speaker 8: of we know how liberal that state is. Imagine the

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Speaker 8: planets where actually seeking eight million in this suit. Imagine

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Speaker 8: what these lawsuits will be like in states.

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Speaker 4: That are not so blue.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I hate to sound sexist about this,

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Speaker 8: but imagine what will happen when if you have a

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Speaker 8: trial where it was a boy who got surgery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've never understood it.

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Speaker 1: But talking to you and staying up on it, it

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Speaker 1: does look like hopefully we've rounded a corner on this

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Speaker 1: what I will call and I believe fully nonsense. I

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Speaker 1: like too, And you gave me a little outline here

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Speaker 1: what doctor Oz had to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to quote him.

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Speaker 1: When the medical ethics textbooks of the future are written,

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Speaker 1: they'll look back on sex rejecting procedures for miners the

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: way we look back on the bottomies. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty strong quote, but I would say pretty accurate,

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean fast tracking kids into these surgeries when

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 8: their brains aren't fully develpt. They're not old enough to vote,

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Speaker 8: to drink, to get tattoos, and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 8: other things. But oh, let's wisk them along to permanent,

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Speaker 8: life changing medical procedures.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that sounds great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you.

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Speaker 1: Said before, it's substituting their own political ideas I suppose

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Speaker 1: for you know, really taking care of their patient and

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Speaker 1: putting the patient first. I know that's strong, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably the case. Hey, some other big news

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Speaker 1: this week too, the Department of Education. They announced I

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Speaker 1: guess it was last week that San Jose State University.

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Speaker 1: James and you and I have talked about San Jose

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Speaker 1: State University in any number of contexts over the last

1395
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: couple of years, but they announced the Department of Education

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01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: that they violated Title nine due to its handling of

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Speaker 1: a transgender former volleyball player that we talked about a lot.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us about that announcement and what it's

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01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 1: says and what it means going forward for this whole

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: nonsense of boys pretending to be girls.

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Speaker 8: Basically, they said what everyone knew or would know already,

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01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 8: that San Jose State denied women equal opportunities and benefits,

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01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 8: and the school actually retaliated against the female athletes who

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01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 8: spoke out. I mean this Brooks Slusser, the team captain.

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01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 8: She actually was subjected to a title non complaint herself

1406
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 8: for quote misgendering this male athlete when she spoke out publicly.

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 8: And the thing is she they weren't initially told that

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01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 8: this person was a biological male, and miss Slusser was

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01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 8: actually roomed with this male on team trips.

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Speaker 4: And oh surprise, I'm a male.

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Speaker 3: Imagine how that surprise was.

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Speaker 4: I imagine if your daughter was in that position.

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's supposed to put up with it and

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: do anything about it. I guess if you look at

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Speaker 1: the potential Title nine consequences San Jose State university. They're

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Speaker 1: risking losing their funding. Lawsuits based upon what you just

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Speaker 1: said could be forthcoming, and then civil rights reviews as well.

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Speaker 1: I got to think under the Trump administration, the Department

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01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: of Education is going to keep a close eye on

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Speaker 1: San Jose State University.

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01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're coming down.

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01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 8: I mean they did something with University of Pennsylvania a

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 8: couple of years back related to that Leah Thomas debacle too.

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01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: I tell you, James, as I said before, it it

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 1: sure does seem like, if we have not turned the

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01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: corner yet, we're getting darn close. What else is going

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01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: on on this whole topic. I know you keep an

1429
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: eye on it anything.

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Speaker 8: And you know, here, here's the thing. You just had

1431
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 8: National Women in Sports Day this past week and still

1432
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 8: got the ACLU. You know, the folks couldn't even define

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01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 8: what a woman is when they were before the Supreme Court,

1434
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 8: you know, which would kind of be an important argument

1435
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 8: to make. G let's show up unprepared.

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01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 4: They put out a video called more.

1437
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 8: Than a Game, posting a video and support of guys

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01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 8: and girls sports with with athletes like Megan Rapino, who

1439
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 8: is a famous left about as left wing as you

1440
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 8: get a couple WNBA players saying supporting trans youth isn't

1441
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 8: just about sports, it's about freedom. And you know, a

1442
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 8: former national team gymnast, Jennifer Say who she was on

1443
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 8: the national team in the eighties and the founder of

1444
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 8: Xxxy Athletics clothing line, she really took exception of this,

1445
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 8: basically saying the stuff we've all talked about, she pointed.

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: Out, which I've alluded to, is.

1447
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 8: The male advantage is greater than performance enhancing drugs.

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: And the thing with this.

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 8: These Megan Rappino, she's done with her career. She's basically

1450
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 8: pulling up.

1451
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 4: The ladder behind her.

1452
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 8: I mean, if she does, it's obvious that if she

1453
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 8: had to compete against guys, she would not have had

1454
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 8: the opportunities she had. We talked about the physical differences

1455
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 8: is between men and women. I don't want to go

1456
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 8: into detail about that again. But and then these WNBA players,

1457
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 8: I mean, if you had a bunch of average male

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 8: college players take over these women's leagues, you'd have a

1459
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 8: bunch of guys in drag playing on these teams instead

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01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 8: of real women. Yeah, and you know, Jennifer Say, she

1461
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 8: pointed out that, you know they're the that these folks,

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01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 8: they're twisting what competitive sports is about. It's about competition.

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 8: If for someone to be get a spot on a team,

1464
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 8: someone has to lose a spot on the team. That's

1465
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 8: just how it is with sports. Sports about competition, not

1466
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 8: self expression. And if you want I want to force

1467
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,879
Speaker 8: someone on the team, who's a guy on a women's team,

1468
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 8: that takes away a spot from a woman who or

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01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 8: a girl who busted their tail. I mean, not everybody

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01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 8: makes the team. And she actually aptly pointed out if

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01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 8: you want to be all about self expression, enter a

1472
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,839
Speaker 8: talent contest and sing. That's not what sports are about.

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01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 8: I mean sports are about competition and growth, and there

1474
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 8: are rules in sports.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Hey, James, I really appreciate the update, man, and you know,

1477
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: maybe we're round in a corner on this. I'm really

1478
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: excited about that case, and I know you'll continue to

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01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 1: follow it and keep us posted.

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01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 2: So thank you.

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01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 4: You're certainly welcome.

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: Mike.

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01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, all right, that was James Bogan boy. He

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: does keep an eye on this stuff, and I don't know,

1485
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 1: maybe we've rounded the corner on this absolute nonsense, which

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01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: by the way, is an eighty twenty issue I mean,

1487
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, not a lot of not a lot of

1488
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: difference of opinion out there in the real world about it,

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01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: but it still goes on. Hey, got to take a

1490
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: break for the news. But when we get back, we

1491
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: are going to do a special preseason edition of the

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01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: Reds Report with our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds,

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01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: Davi dy Armbruser. You know, it may be cold as

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: a witch is, you know what, out there, But Monday, Monday, Monday,

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01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: February ninth, pitchers and catchers report to Goodyear, Arizona for

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: physical So there's hope, and we're gonna talk to yet

1497
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: about the offseason.

1498
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: I think the Reds really strengthen themselves.

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you about that one, Mike Allen Saturday midday.

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01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: I tell you what, when January and February roll around

1501
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: and the weather gets like this, the first thing that

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: comes to my mind is.

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: How far away are we from baseball?

1504
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: Because you know, when that happens, it ain't going to

1505
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: be long and we are getting close here.

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01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: Monday, Monday, Monday.

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Speaker 1: Pitchers and catchers report for physicals the Goodyear Spring Training Complex,

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01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: February sixteenth, First full squad workout February twenty one, the

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01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: Cactus League opener against the Guardians at Goodyear.

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 2: That's an annual thing.

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01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: And then of course the big eat in March twenty sixth,

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01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: opening day against the Boston red Socks at GABP. So

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: we're getting there here to talk about. This is our guy,

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01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Dave Ydie Armbers are going to do a preseason Reds

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01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: report for us YID.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 14: I'm getting excited, Mike. This team I think is going

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01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 14: to be better than.

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01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 7: They were last year.

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Speaker 14: And you know this, you mentioned it. The first spring

1521
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 14: training game is the twenty first of this month, so

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 14: it's going to be an exciting season.

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01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: I think I couldn't agree with you more, especially with

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: the recent signing of Ahuanio Suarez Kyle swa Orber. I

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01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: guess they made a pretty solid try for him but

1526
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: didn't get him. But hey, you know what you look

1527
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: at Suarez thirty six home runs last year, forty nine

1528
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: last year, oh, forty nine, I must be looking at

1529
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the wrong combined.

1530
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: Well, you're probably looking at just one team could combined.

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01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: I forgot about that.

1532
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Well even better, I mean you and I have talked

1533
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: about this odd nauseum. The Reds needed some pop in

1534
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: their lineup and it looks like they got it.

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: What do you think?

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01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

1537
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:34,839
Speaker 4: I agree.

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01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 14: I don't expect him to hit forty nine home runs,

1539
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 14: but if he can hit thirty to thirty five, it's

1540
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 14: going to help this team tremendously. And just as important,

1541
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 14: I'm assuming he's going up back behind Deli Da La

1542
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 14: Cruz in the lineup and for some profession so maybe

1543
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 14: Daily Cruz gets some better pitches to hit, and if

1544
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 14: they can keep him fresh, I think he's going to

1545
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 14: have a breakout year two. I mean, he played all

1546
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 14: one fifty two last year and was dealing with the

1547
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 14: quad issue, was a little bit beat up, and his

1548
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 14: home run production dropped after the All Starbucker break. But

1549
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 14: I think with Swarrez hitting behind him, and if they

1550
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 14: give him some days off, I think he could have

1551
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 14: a big year.

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 7: I really do.

1553
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I mean he's ready to bust out,

1554
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: I think.

1555
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: But getting back to the contract man, it is a

1556
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: pretty team friendly contract. One year, fifteen million bucks guaranteed

1557
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: with an option next year for sixteen million, and there's

1558
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: no buyout. So I don't know who did the negotiating

1559
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: for the Reds, but I think they did a good job.

1560
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 14: I'm a little surprised, I am that he didn't get

1561
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 14: a multi year contract. I know there were some other

1562
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 14: deals on the table, but he chose the Reds. But

1563
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 14: it really kind of surprised me that he didn't get

1564
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 14: a bigger deal. Maybe not a Kyle Schober type deal,

1565
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 14: but you know, a multi year deal anyway. I mean,

1566
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 14: it's he's got an option, but heck, it's it's tough

1567
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 14: when you get up to the thirty four to thirty

1568
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 14: five years old, man, you want to get one more

1569
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 14: big contract. Yet, you know, he likes playing here, he

1570
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 14: thinks his team's got a chance, his family likes it here,

1571
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 14: so I you know, I think that all factored in

1572
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 14: the why he signed with the Reds. And it's a

1573
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 14: big help for this team.

1574
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 4: It really really is.

1575
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'll tell you what. I saw that.

1576
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: I just kind of saw it in passing and I

1577
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: said what because I had kind of given up.

1578
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think they were going to get him.

1579
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: So to me, it's a big deal.

1580
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: And boy, going into the season opener, I think people

1581
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: are going to have some high expectations.

1582
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Heckney made the playoffs last year.

1583
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 14: You know, yeah, no, I agree, And you know, hats

1584
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 14: off to the Castoline. Yeah, because they were at but

1585
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 14: they were at their budget. And then but Nick Krawl

1586
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 14: saw that they could get sore as they kept in

1587
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 14: contact with him, and so the Reds up their payroll

1588
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 14: some to sign him. I think it's a good move.

1589
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 14: I think, you know, honestly, I think that what fans expect.

1590
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 14: Everybody knew, everybody that pays attention to this team needed

1591
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 14: some more power, and they went out and to their credit,

1592
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 14: they got it. Now, I don't know if shoever would

1593
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 14: have signed here or not. I really think from the beginning,

1594
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 14: if the Phillies offered him the kind of deal we got,

1595
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 14: he was staying no matter what the other offers are.

1596
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 3: But you know, they tried.

1597
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 14: Then then that was over and you think, well what now,

1598
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 14: and then this kind of just popped out of nowhere,

1599
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 14: I think, and it was. It's a great move. So again,

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01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 14: hats off to them. They're trying to win, trying to

1601
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 14: win this year.

1602
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and hopefully they go a little if they

1603
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, which I think they have a

1604
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,480
Speaker 1: good shot at, they go a bit deeper into the playoffs.

1605
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you in addition to a Huanio, what

1606
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: other acquisitions that the Reds pulled off this year that

1607
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: I think are going to be impactful this year well

1608
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: coming season.

1609
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the big, the big.

1610
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 14: You know, they signed a couple of bats and JJ

1611
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 14: Blade and Dane Myers and those guys are going to

1612
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 14: help this team. Part time players, but they're going to

1613
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 14: help this team. But I think really what they did

1614
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 14: and what they set out to do was improve the bullpen.

1615
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 14: Brn Suitor is gone, so they needed brought in some

1616
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 14: other left handers, and between the rotation and the bullpen,

1617
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 14: I think they're pretty good. I mean re signing Amelia Pegon,

1618
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 14: the closer last year, to a new contract, and when

1619
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 14: again I didn't think he was going to sign here.

1620
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 3: I thought it was fifty to fifty at best, but

1621
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 3: he signed.

1622
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 14: And then you added some line some other arms with

1623
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 14: Pierce Johnson and Brock Burke and Caleb Ferguson, all guys

1624
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 14: who pitched a lot of baseball last year. So this team,

1625
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 14: this bullpen has got guys that can throw sixty five

1626
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 14: seventy games to go along with Pegan and Tony Santion.

1627
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 14: I mean Tony Santion needed a break. The guy pitched

1628
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 14: in eighty games last year, that was the second most

1629
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 14: and major League Baseball. So to get him a little

1630
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 14: help with other guys that can go deep into games

1631
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 14: and pitch often. I think it's going to help this

1632
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 14: team a lot. And then the starting rotation, Mike, Yeah, Stu,

1633
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 14: if they stay healthy, the starting rotation is one of

1634
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 14: the best in baseball, certainly the best in the Central Division.

1635
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: And kind of doing a little research on this, and

1636
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: this is research I love to do reading about baseball.

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01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 2: That's what the so called critics are saying.

1638
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, Andrew Abbott a couple

1639
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: of years ago, All Star. I believe Hunter Green, who

1640
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: seems like he's kind of in a good groove head wise,

1641
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Nick Ladolo, Brady Singer. Now the question is that fifth man,

1642
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: I guess according to MLB dot Com, the the battle

1643
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: for the fifth spot Chase Burns, Rhet Louder, Brandon Williamson,

1644
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: Julia Julian Aguilla.

1645
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: I hope I'm pronouncing that right. What do you think

1646
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 2: about there?

1647
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 14: I mean those four good the starting the first four,

1648
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 14: I think that's set. But again, you have to stay

1649
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 14: healthy as good as Hunter green Is he only made

1650
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 14: nineteen starts last year.

1651
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Unacceptable.

1652
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 14: You have to you have if you want to go

1653
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 14: win some games so you're not fighting at the last

1654
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 14: second make the playoffs. He's got to pitch a full season.

1655
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 14: But having said that, you know depth and starting pitchers.

1656
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 14: That's the case with all major league teams. These guys

1657
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 14: have got to make some starts. Otherwise you've got to

1658
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 14: have some guys that can make other starts. That's why

1659
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 14: you mentioned who's the fifth starter. And honestly, it doesn't

1660
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 14: matter because all these guys you mentioned, Chase Burns, Red Louder,

1661
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 14: Brandon Williams, They're all going at some point come up

1662
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 14: here and make a start. That's just how baseball is today.

1663
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 14: Guys get nicked up, they get hurt.

1664
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1665
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 14: If you're the Dodgers, you're backup. Yeah, you're like guys

1666
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 14: phantom injury. So you can bring somebody up and give

1667
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 14: a guy a two week vacation.

1668
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it.

1669
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 11: Man.

1670
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: They're the twenty seven Yankees.

1671
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 14: Plus yeah, plus they're the twenty seven Yankee. When you're

1672
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 14: when you're luxury tax that you have to pay is

1673
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 14: more than I think the payrolls six teams last year.

1674
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 14: That's saying something.

1675
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: Man, Well, let me ask you this too.

1676
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean the n L Central of course, the Brewers, Man,

1677
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: what a season they had. The Cubs not too bad, Reds,

1678
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals and Pirates. Who the hell knows. Do you see

1679
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: anything that any of those teams did to strengthen themselves

1680
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 1: that would be a factor as far as the Reds

1681
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: doing well.

1682
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't think it as much as the Reds.

1683
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 14: I mean, I think you know, you mentioned the Brewers

1684
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 14: and the Cubs. The Cubs made some moves and that

1685
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 14: I think that's probably the team to be for some reason.

1686
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 14: The Brewers, boy, they just keep on rollman a single year,

1687
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 14: the Cardinals and Pirates, and you know that's so. But

1688
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 14: I think the Reds, the player for player, probably as

1689
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 14: good as those two teams. You know, they just have to,

1690
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 14: especially with the pitching. I think, you know, we'll see

1691
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 14: we'll see a lot more in spring training as sinks

1692
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 14: kind of ironed themselves out. But I really think this

1693
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 14: Reds team they probably won't be I think I saw

1694
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 14: they were only predicted to win eighty three games. I

1695
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 14: honestly think they'll win.

1696
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: More than that.

1697
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 14: No way, I think I think they can play with

1698
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 14: the other two teams.

1699
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, who predicted that? You gotta think they'll do better

1700
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 1: than that. What did they win last year?

1701
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Here?

1702
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 14: They won eighty three? Yeah from this is from bet MGM.

1703
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 14: The bed MGM has the Reds winning if I could

1704
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 14: find it here, I thought it was eighty three games.

1705
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 4: Eighty three and a half games.

1706
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I have you know?

1707
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 11: And I just.

1708
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. I mean, they very very

1709
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,440
Speaker 1: much improved, but who cares. We'll take the lower expectations.

1710
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 14: Well, it doesn't make sense, but for some reason, those

1711
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 14: dudes in Vegas are always hey, Liz, they have the

1712
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 14: Cubs at eighty eight and a half and the Brewers

1713
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 14: at eighty seven and a half.

1714
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: But we'll do substantially better. I think.

1715
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm always optimistic. I think than eighty three wins.

1716
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,839
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. I use AI for research

1717
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: for this show. I did it this time with the Reds.

1718
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: Here's AI's project, and I know they get it from somewhere.

1719
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1720
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Projected opening day roster. I want to read it to

1721
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: you and see what you think. Catcher Tyler Stevenson first base,

1722
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Spencer Steer second base, Matt McClain, third base, key Brian Hayes,

1723
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: shortstop Ellie and then left field JJ Blede.

1724
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Who I don't know anything about, centerfield, TJ.

1725
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 1: Friedel, right field Noel ve Marte, and as DH, they've

1726
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: got a Huenio Suarez as DH.

1727
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

1728
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 8: Well?

1729
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 14: I think I think that is pretty close. I honestly

1730
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 14: think south Stewart probably starts as the first baseman if

1731
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 14: he has a decent spring, which would maybe Spencer Steer.

1732
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 4: To left field.

1733
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 14: But other than that, I think that's pretty close to

1734
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 14: being accurate. I think Terry Francona likes as good as

1735
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 14: Spencer Steer was at first base, and he was very

1736
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 14: good at first base. He likes to have guys that

1737
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 14: can play everywhere, and Steer.

1738
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Is one of those guys.

1739
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 14: So I think you'll see him at first I think

1740
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 14: you'll see him in the left field. I think you

1741
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 14: might even see him at second base on a game

1742
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 14: or two. So I think what you read there, what

1743
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 14: you saw is pretty close to accurate. I really do,

1744
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 14: because you're talking about a bunch of guys who really

1745
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 14: unless they really falter in spring training. They got spots

1746
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 14: locked up and I don't think. I don't think that

1747
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 14: lineup is going to change much, except if for right

1748
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:46,879
Speaker 14: hand or left handers on the mound.

1749
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: You know, talking about this AI thing that I just

1750
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: read to you read a little bit further pitching out look.

1751
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Experts describe the twenty this is the Reds twenty twenty

1752
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: six rotation as potentially one of the best in recent

1753
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: French history. So I mean, based on what you're saying,

1754
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I think you agree with it. It just seems like

1755
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: that to me. Uh, what about Ahuanio at designated hit

1756
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: or you think that's a right spot for him?

1757
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, I do, and I don't think you'll see him

1758
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 14: just as the DH. I think they'll give you know,

1759
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 14: they're going to give Ellie some more time off where

1760
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 14: he's gonna help DH, but he won't play in the field.

1761
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 14: So I can see times where you know, or move

1762
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 14: mix the match stuff.

1763
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 3: I can see worse.

1764
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 14: War As will play third base, that's basically his natural position,

1765
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 14: and then he's going to also play some first base,

1766
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 14: which is something he hasn't done a lot of. But

1767
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 14: I don't suspect that's going to be a problem for him.

1768
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 14: But I think for the most part, he will be

1769
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 14: the DH on this team, and that's just fine. I

1770
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 14: mean he's whatever, thirty five years old, so you can

1771
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 14: save his legs a little bit, and he's cool with

1772
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 14: being the DH. Everything will be good.

1773
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1774
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean they definitely have some flexibility in this thing.

1775
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean they really do, with different people being able

1776
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 1: to to play different places. You know, I pay attention

1777
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: to this stuff you had, but I totally missed the

1778
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: bus on JJ ble Eday. First of all, am I

1779
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: pronouncing it right? And second of all, what do you

1780
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: know about him?

1781
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 14: JJ Bloday? When he is a Yeah, he's a He's

1782
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 14: a decent player. I mean he had a good year.

1783
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 14: He had a bad year last year for the A's,

1784
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 14: but the year before that twenty home round sixty RB guys.

1785
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 14: Last year those numbers dropped the fourteen and thirty nine.

1786
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 14: But those are the kind of guys the Reds pick up.

1787
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 14: I mean, he can play the outfield.

1788
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 4: Fine.

1789
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 14: I think it's you just hope you can get him

1790
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 14: back to where he was two years ago.

1791
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 4: Is he you know? Is he an All Star? No?

1792
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 14: But he'll help this team. He's a solid player. He'll

1793
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 14: help this team. And that goes with Dame Myers too,

1794
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 14: another guy they picked up. And Blue Day's a left

1795
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 14: handed batter of Daan Myers the right handed hitter. You know,

1796
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 14: these are all again, we're not the Dodgers. Those are

1797
01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 14: all guys that at some point had some success and

1798
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 14: they think that they can turn them around. Maybe they're

1799
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 14: not everyday guys, but they can certainly help this team.

1800
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 3: And that's what he is.

1801
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 14: And that's fine, especially defensively if they can get some

1802
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 14: guys that can, you know, play good defense in the outfield.

1803
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 14: And Dane Myers is a natural center fielder, so that's

1804
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 14: going to help.

1805
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 4: Give PJ.

1806
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 14: Friedels some rest too, because that guy played in a

1807
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 14: whole bunch of games last year.

1808
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, give him.

1809
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 3: Some things off.

1810
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 14: And I think that's that's what you're looking for. We

1811
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 14: know who the starters are going to be for the

1812
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 14: most part, and then it's just adding depth and guys

1813
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 14: that have been around the league that can help.

1814
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, we're almost out of time.

1815
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: If you care to, do you want to try to

1816
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: pick out the Reds eventual record in twenty twenty six.

1817
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 2: You don't have.

1818
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 14: To, And now I will do it.

1819
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 3: I will say right now, they will have.

1820
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 14: I'm going to say I'm going to go out of limb.

1821
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 14: I'm going to say eighty seven wins.

1822
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: There you go.

1823
01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 6: You know what.

1824
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: I'm going out on a big I'm gonna say ninety wins.

1825
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: But again, I'm a real good fan. But don't know

1826
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: what you know. And I'm always optimistic. So if we

1827
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 1: get close to either one of them, I think we're

1828
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 1: in good shape.

1829
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: It is always appreciated.

1830
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm hold on, hold on.

1831
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 14: Here's the most important question here we go. Are you

1832
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 14: going out to spring training? And if you are, are

1833
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 14: you going on your own dime or you're letting you

1834
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 14: sign or somebody pay for it like you did last year.

1835
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 1: No, not this year. I'm going to Florida for the

1836
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: police reunion and we're gonna hit some games down there.

1837
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: But I think next year I'm going to go back

1838
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to Arizona and hell no, I'm not paying for my ticket.

1839
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 2: Why would I do that?

1840
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 14: Well, I understand, And let's hope there is a next year.

1841
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 14: I hope there's a spring training next year because you

1842
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 14: lock out this player stuff at the end.

1843
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 3: Of this year.

1844
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: I hear you, Hey, we're out of time. You'd really

1845
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to talking to you this year. Thank you

1846
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:56,799
Speaker 1: for doing this early report.

1847
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 4: You got to see them like okay.

1848
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: Thanks Dave ad armbrwser first REDS report of the year.

1849
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: We're out of time, which means I am out of here.

1850
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm in for Willie noon to three on Friday, Mike

1851
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: Allen Saturday midday