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Speaker 1: which we will get into as well. Now, Lavelle, who

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite one. The Roaring Bear says everything. You

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we well. I intend to cover wolves.

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Speaker 2: And I dare say that when.

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Speaker 1: You when a game accomplishes what Bears Packers did last night.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who was playing in it, even though

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Speaker 1: You can't avoid it, you can't not talk about it.

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Speaker 2: No, probably not.

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Speaker 3: I think that's about you.

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Speaker 2: Would you say you're more angry or more hurt hurt?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there are some Lafleur things that make

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Speaker 1: It's a wagon, the Indiana University Hoosiers, his alma mater,

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Speaker 4: Here's my question, Dan, I've seen this twice now. I

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Speaker 1: That's the only explanation that I can come up with.

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Speaker 3: Well, this isn't the first time that this has happened

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Speaker 3: I mean. I saw the fan tweeting several times promoting

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Speaker 1: I was told by Lavelle Pa was reveling at halftime.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 4: He was talking about how the the Packers were dominating

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Speaker 4: Walker was the player of the game, and love was

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Speaker 1: Why does he hate? Why does Pa hate the Bears?

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Speaker 4: Is there a backstory this goes back like fifteen twenty

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was like what I was like, what

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Speaker 3: I appreciated the sure you did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Joe Schicks, Guy Rights, This may be the grossest Sunday

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Speaker 2: What are we supposed to do too? Or hert goal

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Speaker 2: Had I think the stat I saw was.

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Speaker 1: The Bears became the fourth team in the history of

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Speaker 2: But I think the Bears have two.

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Speaker 1: That's true, you know you don't have much place, much

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Speaker 2: Well that's all you got?

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Speaker 4: Well? Little Scooter Neil growing up from the South side

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Speaker 1: Bears break There's got to be something better than that.

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Speaker 1: And I won't lie to you before that.

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Speaker 4: Finished beating the Bears here though I was sponsored by

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Speaker 4: Alleries for a while, it's called beating the Bears?

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Speaker 1: Is that still current? No, that goes back a few

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Speaker 1: years ago. No, My intention was to make this who's

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Speaker 1: your hotline?

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Speaker 2: Too? Because you should Was it Friday night?

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Speaker 1: I mean I dashed out of here to make sure

448
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Speaker 1: I was there for the start of the game, and

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Speaker 1: as it was, I still missed. I was still driving

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Speaker 1: the the Pix. I didn't see it.

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Speaker 2: Now, did you see this after the game?

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Speaker 4: The Oregon I don't know if he was the assistant coach.

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Speaker 2: Or a science guys Dave the six touchdown ball.

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Speaker 4: Pig six ball to the Indiana player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very classy stuff it was. Now do

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Speaker 3: we know that was really the ball?

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Speaker 1: Or is it?

458
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Speaker 2: Like, was there was there something in it poisonous?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: Is there some something toxic, some toxic substance he put

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Speaker 1: on the ball. That's how much. That's how I think.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've gone long, first segment. We've got a

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Speaker 1: full two hours. I'm out of here to go your

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Speaker 1: your wall. You can stay as long as you want,

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Speaker 1: or you can leave. There's a lot of this is

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Speaker 1: you didn't know I was coming in here. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind to levelle. You always have an open invitation. You

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Speaker 1: have respect for other people's shows. So that's that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You'd want to get out of here. Oh sounds like

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Speaker 1: a shot right there. Blakemore's hurt, man, Blake Moore's down

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Speaker 1: his hes, he's wounded.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take him more than a minute. I

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Speaker 3: think I've taken a mental health day. From the text line,

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Speaker 3: I haven't opened it.

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Speaker 2: Those are stages of UH six four six eighty six

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Speaker 2: is the.

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Speaker 1: Brat Shawn Brian k f a n text line back

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Speaker 1: in just a minute here and the do you find

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Sports Calendar calamity? Open the Minnesota Sports Calendar

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Speaker 1: of Calamity. I can change the subject, Sure, we can

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Speaker 1: change the subject from what's at hand. On this date.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy, the Minnesota Vikings took on the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs in Super Bowl four. Most of you, or

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Speaker 1: many of you are probably not old enough to remember it.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Vikings were edged twenty three to seven on that occasion,

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Speaker 1: and it really wasn't all that.

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Speaker 2: Close.

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Speaker 1: Omen the pregame activities, the missile of Vikings balloon ignited,

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Speaker 1: started on fire, couldn't get off the ground. Here's a

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Speaker 1: story that ran the next day in the Minneapolis Tribune

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Speaker 1: byline Sid Hartman, Dayline, New Orleans, Louisiana. Joe Capp sat

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Speaker 1: on the table in the training room of the Vikings

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Speaker 1: in pain following the Vikings twenty three to seven loss

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Speaker 1: to Kansas City and the Super Bowl. We just got beat,

496
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Speaker 1: said Cap. There wasn't any doubt that the better team won.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City defense looked like a redwood forest. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember one individual player playing better than any other.

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Speaker 1: They all seemed to stand out. We went into the

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Speaker 1: game feeling that we had to make our running game go,

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Speaker 1: but they took it away from us. That's Sid, that's

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Speaker 1: a great quote. The Kansas City defense looked like a

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Speaker 1: redwood force. This is the proud Vikings, proud you know,

504
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Speaker 1: best team in the National Football League. That wasn't supposed

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Speaker 1: to happen that way. That was the famous hank Stram

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Speaker 1: cackling game with the NFL films, which we've played many

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Speaker 1: many times over the years, as he as the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: matriculate to use Kate hank Stram's term.

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Speaker 2: Down the field.

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Speaker 1: And little did I know that also on this date

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, the day before another Viking Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl loss, well, let me just read you this story,

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Speaker 1: Dan Wennesota providing it. Howard Cosell made a big splash

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans and it went to his head. On Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the Sports to cast set out to do an interview

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Speaker 1: with Vikings quarterback fran Tarkenton at the team's headquarters hotel.

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Speaker 1: After some needling back and forth with the quarterbacks, teammates

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Speaker 1: as targeted maneuver Cosell under a balcony, Alan Page, Wally

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Speaker 1: Hilgenberg and Bob Lertsima filled a trash can with water

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Speaker 1: and doused Cosell as Tarkenton scrambled out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Cosell not amused, probably because the force of the water

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Speaker 1: knocked his two pay a skew Amid Torrents of laughter.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Calendar of Calamity never disappoints this time of year.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of losses, lots of significant setbacks.

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Speaker 1: Brand Shawn Brian Kfean text line is open at six

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Speaker 1: four six eighty six. Sean asks if the Packers move

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Speaker 1: on from Lafloor, would they immediately go after Harbaugh? I

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Speaker 1: know this was discussed on Packer Review, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. What I read yesterday was that Harbaugh has

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Speaker 1: had feelers from a lot of teams. I guess the

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Speaker 1: first question has to be if the pack if the

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Speaker 1: little floor era is over, not whether you think it

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Speaker 1: should be, but whether it really is. That's the first step,

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Speaker 1: because if he doesn't get fired, there's not a job

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Speaker 1: for Harbaugh. Does Harbaugh immediately, just because of the name,

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Speaker 1: move to the top of your list or do you go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds good.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of quarterback issues there.

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Speaker 1: So where's Harbaugh on the Brett Blake Moore short list?

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Speaker 3: He's definitely top two with him in Stefanski. If we

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Speaker 3: do end up going that direction, the media machine is

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Speaker 3: already trying to spin this because here's schefter literally a

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Speaker 3: minute ago. Okay, he tweeted former Packers president Bob Harlan

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Speaker 3: is royalty in Green Bay. His son Brian is an

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Speaker 3: agent who represents John Harbaugh. John has deep Midwestern roots

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Speaker 3: and ties. If the Packers decided to change head coaches,

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh would be the most large. So the machine has

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Speaker 3: already starting to which, by the way, yesterday rap sheet

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Speaker 3: said they're going to extend the floor and they're going

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Speaker 3: to have a meeting after the season's over. And I

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Speaker 3: was written or offered after the game or before the game,

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Speaker 3: before the game the game, like when I was doing

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Speaker 3: in the zone, I got you, and now all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, one game later, and what an eventful one was.

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking about jump, yeah, Harbaugh or which you

556
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Speaker 3: can't get Lamar going is a concern for me. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And then as Stefanski, who had just any coach that

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Speaker 3: goes to Cleveland has cursed from the jump.

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Speaker 1: So so you don't blame Stefanski for any of that.

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Speaker 1: I let him off the hook almost entirely, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got Shador, you've got Joe Flacco, You've

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Speaker 3: you've got Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: And terback situation has been a disaster there, I mean

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Speaker 1: bad luck among other things. I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: he's involved in some of the decision making, but that's

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Speaker 1: all true. So we're putting it fifty to fifty that

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Speaker 1: he's By the way, you told us the other day

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Speaker 1: that he still had a year in his contract. That

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Speaker 1: was right, No, he does, he's got one more.

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Speaker 2: He does have one more year. I thought it was

571
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Speaker 2: like literally he was he was done.

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Speaker 3: So here's here's where that comes from. Is that policy?

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Speaker 3: The new president has bay said he doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: do a lame duck coach. Okay, so he doesn't even

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Speaker 3: though Lafloor has a year left, he doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: have someone on the last year of his deal. So

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Speaker 3: essentially a decision has to be made this offseason. But

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Speaker 3: I see, okay, if they didn't, he still had one

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Speaker 3: more year left, all right, that explains it.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the text line rebooted here for

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Speaker 1: the purposes of a lot of texts are coming in

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Speaker 1: today on a lot of subjects we will get into

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Speaker 1: while losing ot.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: That's correct? Yeah, I mean the Islanders are a good team.

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Speaker 3: They have star power, but it still stinks that nearly

587
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: produced two goals. But again, points are points, and we

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Speaker 3: take that. I don't know. I think this team is

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Speaker 3: kind of limping towards the h as far as just

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Speaker 3: energy level, lighting towards the Olympic break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the break? Start soon? It's got to

592
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Speaker 1: be soon, right, getting choked up still apparently understand loss. Yeah, yeah,

593
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Speaker 1: it's it's going to be soon. But I still think

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Speaker 1: they've got a meaty January to go. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the first game yesterday was quite entertaining. The Rams I

596
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Speaker 1: thought were in serious trouble, a serious danger of losing,

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Speaker 1: and they came back and got the late touchdown drive

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Speaker 1: Stafford's got up the I think they did an extray

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Speaker 1: on his finger and the it's not fractured. The tests

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00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: were negative, even though it was obviously bothering him to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree. But Carolina made that game. That was

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Speaker 1: another game early that looked like it was going to

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Speaker 1: get away, and and and Carolina ended up making it,

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Speaker 1: not only making an interesting game but getting ahead. But

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Speaker 1: the Rams ultimately had the last laugh six four six

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Speaker 1: eighty six bratch on Brian caffein text line, I guess

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Speaker 1: you can do some talkbacks as well, although you're probably

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Speaker 1: you're probably trying to avoid a traumatized by what if

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Speaker 1: they're related to reveling in your packer misery?

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: There's a handful of those. Yeah, so, I mean I

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Speaker 3: haven't even opened the text line. I don't even want

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Speaker 3: to think about what y or not at this point.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, when Rogers and the Steelers lose today, Tomlin may

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Speaker 1: be available to the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't like Tom I it's a legendary coach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if we want to go five hundred and sneaking into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, that's what we're doing right now. Wow, you

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Speaker 3: know he hasn't won a super Bowl in a long time.

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Speaker 3: I would now blame the Vikings historic postseason super Bowl

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Speaker 3: difficulties and their ongoing futility on the co Cell curse.

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Speaker 3: The co Cell curse, that's an I had never heard

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Speaker 3: that story, to be honest with you. Maybe we discussed

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Speaker 3: it before and I'd forgotten, but that's not what I

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Speaker 3: was aware of.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Did sid blame the officials for that Vikings loss? That's

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Speaker 1: a good question. I don't know. It wouldn't shock me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sixty five toss power trap. I thought it was pat

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Speaker 1: sixty five. Was it sixty five? Look up sixty five

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Speaker 1: toss power trap or was it sixty five? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's the right term for it.

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Speaker 3: Think that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the Hanks Stram comment from that Super Bowl. Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl number four Vikings heavily favored, even though when you

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Speaker 1: look back on all the great talent Kansas City had,

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Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have been. And as we have remarked

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Speaker 1: a few times that one of the most amazing Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Viking stats, and I think it's underplayed, is that

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Speaker 1: they're the total points scored by the Vikings in the

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Speaker 1: first halves of all four Super Bowls in which they

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Speaker 1: participated and lost is zero. Vikings have not scored a

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Speaker 1: single point in the first half of any of the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl games they play, which is when you think about,

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Speaker 1: it's actually kind of rather stunning, to be quite honest

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Speaker 1: with you. Lots of good texts, there's a few college

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Speaker 1: football texts coming in trying to bring story the Indiana

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Speaker 1: story here. Indiana was absurd again against Oregon. Oregon made

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Speaker 1: a series of, you know, stupendous blunders that helped Indiana's cause,

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Speaker 1: but that's the thing about I'm not in the particularly

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Speaker 1: before they win the title, because they have to win

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Speaker 1: it first. I think for you can be an all

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Speaker 1: timer or even in that conversation, my guess is there

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Speaker 1: are more other teams that might be better. I don't

655
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Speaker 1: know that I've seen a more complete team regarding Indiana

656
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: this year, and again, part of their strength is We've

657
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: talked about this on Bumper Bumper over the years. There's

658
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot of ways to evaluate greatness in a team,

659
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: and one of the most underrated ways of evaluating greatness

660
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't get enough attention because it's not fancy, is

661
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: refusing to make stupid mistakes, either you know, stupid penalties

662
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: or horribly time turnovers, whatever the case may be. That

663
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I think is part of greatness. Other people view it

664
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: as well. No, it's just not that. It's that that

665
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: the other you know, the other team outplayed you, but

666
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: you they just made some mistakes. Well, No, that's part

667
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: of evaluation of greatness to me is how well you

668
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: refuse or how effective you are and refusing to make

669
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: those mistakes, eliminating those mistakes, and that's that's probably Indiana's

670
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: greatest strength is there's not very many games at all,

671
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: no games this year.

672
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: We go, well, they opened the door.

673
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Mendoza had to pick six against Oregon. That seemed to

674
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: open that in the earlier game against Oregon that that

675
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: was the kind of mistake that can change everything. But

676
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: it didn't last as a problem because they turned around

677
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: and came back and and scored. So there's a couple

678
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: of people who I want to bring the Gophers into

679
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: that conversation.

680
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Let's get caught up on breaks.

681
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: We get a another pause in it's a two hour

682
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: edition of sermons because the fan has learned the Vikings

683
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: are not in the postseason. So we're left with basically

684
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives, nine to eleven on

685
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I do not want Vikings fans to feel

686
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: left out today, I really don't.

687
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: We are your Vikings leader, we are your Viking station.

688
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: So I will gladly field questions observations of things that

689
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: those folks believe if we were doing a Viking centric

690
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: program today they would like to discuss.

691
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. Hit me up via

692
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: the Bradshawn Brian kafein text line at six four six

693
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: eighty six. Like I said, have no difficulty adding that

694
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: to the subject. You could even say that because of

695
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: what else is going on in the division, maybe that

696
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: has some impact on how you think the Vikings need

697
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: to think their vision, how they should proceed. I think

698
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: there is you know, the way I looked at the

699
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: bears ascension this year was not a great team yet

700
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: a very flawed defense, But I viewed getting to the

701
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: postseason as victory in of itself, and then anything that

702
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: happened afterwards is gravy. So I don't think this is

703
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: quote unquote the Bear's time by any means, but it's

704
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: a process. We've talked about that before. Generally speaking, you're

705
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: not gonna come out of nowhere and go to the Bowl.

706
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: I think what is fair to say is that they're

707
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: going to be a factor that the Vikings are going

708
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: to have to reckon with in a way. They haven't

709
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: always had to worry about the monsters of the Midway.

710
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: More consistently, they've had to worry about the Packers than

711
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: the Bears, and I think the Bears are back in

712
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: that mix. I certainly don't think the Lions are going

713
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: to go away, but what has become abundantly clear is

714
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: that the Bears finally have an offense, a representative twenty

715
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: first century offense, which they generally have not had basically

716
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: since the eighty five Super Bowl run. And even then

717
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't a great offense. It was an opportunistic offense

718
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: built a team that was built on a course of

719
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: historic defense. They're legit, they're formidable. Their coach knows how

720
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: to play offense. So I look at to a certain extent,

721
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: now you can say, well, the Packers, though, they choked,

722
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: and so that's good, right, because we don't have to

723
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: worry about them anymore.

724
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: I don't know that you.

725
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Can say that either, because there's still talent on the team.

726
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: The assumption as Jordan Love will be their quarterback moving

727
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: forward next year. He was terrific first half, not as

728
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: good second half. But I don't view them as if.

729
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: And if you get a new coach, who's to say.

730
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes you add a coach to a team that's made

731
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: the postseason, even if it ended as badly as it

732
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: did for you, there's every reason to believe that you

733
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: can still be a factor. And the Lions, I think is,

734
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, recently, as that last game against the Bears,

735
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything to play for.

736
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: But the Lions are still legit. They may have been exposed.

737
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: A little bit because of who they've lost, but they're

738
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: still legit as far as I'm concerned. So I look

739
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: at this division as very formidable. You know, historically there's

740
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: been a you know, one or two teams. You say

741
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: we have to worry about those teams. I think you

742
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: got to worry about everybody in this division, quite frankly,

743
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: to varying degrees.

744
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't think there are any gimmeas in that regard.

745
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: And so does that have anything to do with the

746
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: strategy that the Viking should implement, the direction.

747
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: That they need to go. We've talked about it endlessly.

748
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: It's I think fairly evident that any attempt to anoint

749
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy as the starter and bring in as a

750
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: backup only a guy you view literally as a backup.

751
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Is would be disastrous for the team.

752
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: And I actually think, as we I think talked about

753
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: with Ben Gesling, send a bad message to the veteran

754
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: players on this team. You have to hedge at the

755
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Now we're learning that they really wanted to

756
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: do that this the year because they were hoping they

757
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: were going to be able to keep Daniel Jones. But

758
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: you have to find the right guy, the available guy,

759
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: the guy that makes sense. And how many of those

760
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: are out there, I don't know. But to me, that's

761
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: not the only issue involving this I mean, the two

762
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: big issues involving this team right now are what your

763
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: quarterback plan is moving forward and whether you can keep

764
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Brian Flores as your defensive coordinator.

765
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: There's two reasons you wouldn't be able to do. The

766
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: latter one he gets a head coaching opportunity and takes it.

767
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: The other is he just decides he wants to go

768
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: someplace else to be defensive coordinator, which he can do.

769
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Is I understand it.

770
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Because of the way, because he didn't sign a contract extension,

771
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: so you know, if it's a lateral moved doesn't matter

772
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: if you're not signed.

773
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Why would he do that?

774
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: He says he's happy here, seems to have a lot

775
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: of authority here to run the defense, maybe even involved

776
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: in recommendations when it comes to the draft.

777
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: Very influential. I have no.

778
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Idea what would cause it? Is it possible he views

779
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: their quarterback quandary as something that might limit his defense's

780
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: chances to be part of a really good team.

781
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

782
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: It's an interesting question you wonder about it. I mean,

783
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: we were told over and over that there wasn't unanimity

784
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: in the building about JJ going into that draft.

785
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Who was in? Who was out?

786
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: It's very very difficult to say, and I don't know

787
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: that we will you know that we will ever know.

788
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: But I'll take Vikings questions or I will take Vikings

789
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: fans processing of what they saw yesterday to the delightful bad.

790
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: If you like schadenfreud regarding the Packers choke and collapse

791
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: or two, I would think the Vikings not so good.

792
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: That the Bears are not the monsters of the Midway anymore.

793
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Whatever they are, they're not a laughing stock. They are

794
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: going to become a formidable opponent within the National Football

795
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: Conference North Division for sure. Jared from as Tech New

796
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Mexico checks in.

797
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: I completely agree.

798
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: Not bringing in actual competition for McCarthy is reckless and irresponsible.

799
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: I think they know that. Did you I hope they do.

800
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Did you talk about the handshake between coaches? They definitely

801
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: don't like each other. Well, my understanding is what Ben

802
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: did was it was it was the the blow by handshake,

803
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: but allegedly that's what.

804
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: The approach that your guy took the last time. I

805
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't remember the last handshake, do you?

806
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: And some of this stuff gets over.

807
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: Well they played three times, yeah, every one of them

808
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: was a blow by hand so they're all blow by yes, Okay,

809
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 3: so it's just followed the tradition.

810
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean whatever tradition has been as stack I know,

811
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: but do we know what is the what the origin.

812
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: Of it is? Has anybody been able to establish the origin?

813
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: The origin is Den Johnson out of nowhere in his

814
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: prese What was that?

815
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: That's what I'm at. I know about that quote.

816
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to figure out was something that preceded

817
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: that we don't know about, some history between them that

818
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: led to Johnson saying what he said.

819
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: Lafloor said on I think it was McAfee during the

820
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: draft after which was after that, Okay, like I don't

821
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: even know this guy. I don't know where it came

822
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: from because I've never interacted Like. It wasn't a friendly.

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: It just came out of nowhere. And then so that's

824
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: when the floor responds with Ben Johnson's a great coach.

825
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 3: Just ask him, which he didn't say that verbatim, basically

826
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: it yeah, so yeah, and then here we are with

827
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 3: two coaches that don't like each other.

828
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: We got a full hour yet to go. I tweeted

829
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: this out before the show. I will submit to you

830
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: that I believe the single biggest problem and it's for me,

831
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: a big problem, and they're not worried about me, but

832
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: I believe it's a big problem. The single biggest problem

833
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: with the ESPN brand and approach to sports analysis was confirmed.

834
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: Was both revealed and confirmed once again this morning by

835
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: a number of things I'd heard on the ESPN Radio network.

836
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: It I just I shook my head. I was literally

837
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: screaming at the individuals who were blabbering on and on

838
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: and on at.

839
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: A fake debate that only.

840
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Became real because they had pretended to make it real.

841
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: We'll explain as we set up our number two of

842
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Sunday sermons, get into some other stuff, including.

843
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: The wild and the Wolves, and how about my guy,

844
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: Eric Musselman.

845
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Tough loss for the Gophers in overtime men's basketball against

846
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: usc Friday night, great game, but Eric Musselman, the father

847
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: the son I should say of course of a former

848
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota coach, Bill Usselman gets to celebrate on the Barn court.

849
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: He returned to the Barn as a head coach for

850
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: the first time since his dad did half a century ago,

851
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: and indeed ultimately the got the w So all those

852
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: things on the table for our number two.

853
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Look, listen, here's the thing.

854
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: Guy checks in, writes, Dear Dan, So, Indiana is now

855
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: a football school and Nebraska is a basketball school. We do,

856
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: indeed live in very strange times. Our number two of

857
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: sermons Barrero and Blake Moore until eleven o'clock today, very

858
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: special packer review that included Lavelle e Neil the third

859
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: busting in unannounced and I think uninvited, and then he

860
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: high around long segment with us as well, wearing his

861
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: Bear's gear. For sure, Dan, well, you asked Brett what

862
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: he thinks of my nightmare?

863
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: Brian lawes.

864
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: To Green Bay. That's rich and Fargo, all right? That

865
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: interests you? Or is that he's not proven he can

866
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: be a successful head coach. He's been a terrific coordinator.

867
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: So is that would that intrigue you? Or is that

868
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: too much of a I don't want to take that

869
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: kind of risk.

870
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: As a head coach, I don't think I would like it,

871
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 3: and it only is because of the to a thing.

872
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: I don't want any bad mojo with Jordan Love, who

873
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: I still very much believe in and think he's the

874
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: franchise right, so I don't want any negative vibes there.

875
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 4: Now.

876
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: If halfway left and he took a lateral move, which

877
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: he never would and this would never happen. But if

878
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: he did, I'd be one hundred percent for that of

879
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: him being our new DC. But no, as a head coach,

880
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: give me someone who's been there, done that.

881
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: You alluded to it earlier, and it was maybe the

882
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: play that changed I shouldn't say it the play that

883
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: changed everything, because a lot of stuff happened had to

884
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: happen after, But it was the play that opened the door,

885
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: the play that might have shut the door on the Bears'

886
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: chances to finish in the improbable fashion that they did,

887
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: which was to go on to score two more touchdowns

888
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty five points in all in the fourth courter and

889
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: beat the Packers thirty one to twenty seven. The Bears

890
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: are facing it's five point thirty seven to go in

891
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: the game. They're down ten they're facing fourth and three

892
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: at their own forty eight yard line. What happens well,

893
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: but probably they got a break because there was a

894
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: false start called on a ball that ended up being

895
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: hiked well over Caleb's head. And on the other hand,

896
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: it meant, now you got to get eight yards to

897
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: keep the drive alive and to keep your chances alive.

898
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: So now you've got fourth and eight at your own

899
00:48:51,880 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: forty three Williams, Caleb rolls left and ultimately flings a pass.

900
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: Neither foot was on the ground. I don't think when

901
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: he threw it and he completed it was. It is

902
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: one of those throws that just from a physical standpoint,

903
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: there maybe are ten quarterbacks in the history of the

904
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: game we could throw it. That doesn't mean Calel Williams's

905
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback all time, but it means physically it's

906
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: a kind of throw, and as they said on the broadcast,

907
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: it's a kind of play that it exemplified why scouts

908
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: were drooling when he came out, that he could make

909
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: plays like that. When everything else broke down and he

910
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: hit he threw the ball perfectly to a doonsday at

911
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: the Green Bay thirty. It's a twenty seven yard completion,

912
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: and obviously that means the drive is alive and the

913
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: rest at that point is history.

914
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: Hell of a play worthy of discussion.

915
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: Here's where I think why so many people have so

916
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: much differentfficulty with the ESPN brand when it comes to

917
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: analyzing and fixating. Okay, you familiar with Booger McFarland, Yes,

918
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: so I think he's still an analyst of the ESPN,

919
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: isn't he.

920
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. So he tweeted out, I don't

921
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: have the exact tweet.

922
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: In front of me. Something effect of that just.

923
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: Might have been the best pass I've ever seen, best

924
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: football pass I've ever seen something to that effect. The

925
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: folks at ESPN this morning could not stop talking about it.

926
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: So a made up debate that perfect can be his opinion,

927
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: but it's one of five million people's opinions, So who

928
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: gives a bleep what he thinks or anybody else thinks

929
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: he's entitled to it, But they suddenly turned that into

930
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: the only thing about.

931
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: This game worth talking about.

932
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: It's what ESPN likes to do and what they rightly

933
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: get savaged for. You create out of thin air the

934
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: notion that there's debate.

935
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: Point we found one. That's the debate point.

936
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: Is it ludicrous to say that that might have been

937
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: the greatest throw in quarterback and in football.

938
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: History or not.

939
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: It's not worth it if you reduce the entire game,

940
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: all the aspects of that game, to that, and spend

941
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: as much time as they did on it. That's what

942
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: drives people crazy when again, it's one of their own commentators,

943
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: or at least he was. I assume he still is,

944
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: and you're going to pretend that everything should revolve around

945
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: that particular question.

946
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: So they're going down the rabbit hole.

947
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, don't you It doesn't have to

948
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: be a play in a Super Bowl?

949
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Well would it be on the Mount rushmore of greatest passes?

950
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: Who cares?

951
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: It's an extraordinary play that is only part of the story.

952
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: But if you fixate on it to the degree that

953
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: they did, you're missing the thread. You are missing the

954
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: overall point or the series of points that are worthy

955
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: of discussion.

956
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: I think about a game like that.

957
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: But I think people in that those officers, they get

958
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: conditioned to the debate point got to be a debate point,

959
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: and it's got to be one, and even better if

960
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: we're quoting one of our own people self serving, We're

961
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: going to manufacture news that there's something newsworthy out of

962
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: that particular debate question, and it's what they love, and

963
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: quite frankfully, frankly, it's why I think, at least when

964
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: it comes to NBA stuff, people are enjoying some of

965
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: the other networks approach because they don't get bogged down

966
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: in that. Debates are fine, differences of opinion are fine,

967
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: but fixating and building every thing around that where now

968
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about what about the Doug Flutie, the BC,

969
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: the long It's like, what does that have to do

970
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: with what took place last night? It was an extraordinary

971
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: play and you know, the idea of how do we

972
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: define greatest?

973
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: Does that include college?

974
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: So that crystallized to me what I can't stand about

975
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: their approach, and I think why so many people get

976
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: turned off by it, even if they have good people

977
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: doing it.

978
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: It's like you need someone in a position authority to say, guys,

979
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: get off that.

980
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: There's twenty five other things to talk about regarding that game,

981
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: the extraordinary aspect of it, but you're suddenly turning it

982
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: from you know, celebrating an astonishing historic comeback or attempting

983
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: to analyze an unbelievably historic choke to making it all

984
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: about that debate point which was created by one person,

985
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: as if that's the last word. It's just it's just

986
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: ludicrous to me, but it I thought it was a

987
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: good lesson in because people ask me, well, what's your

988
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: beef with with that brand? And sometimes it's sort of

989
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: hard to explain. But this isn't that.

990
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: That's it.

991
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty much, I would say, pretty much all of it.

992
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: A branch on Brian Kfaan text line is six four

993
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: six eight six. A lot of good vikings. Texts are

994
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: coming in. Lots of good vikings texts are coming in,

995
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: so and I asked for some. So we're gonna get

996
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: to some of those. We'll let you file a brief report.

997
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. We need to fixate on the wild game.

998
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: The Wolves had their rematch with Cleveland, and the Cavaliers

999
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: returned the favor. They dominated the second half. I think

1000
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: the Wolves gave up one hundred and fifteen points in

1001
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: the second half of the game. I'm exaggerating, but not

1002
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: by all that much. And then we've got here's the

1003
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: ultimate rebound schedule loss situation. Okay, here's the ultimate box

1004
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: for the people, the basketball people believe in the schedule loss.

1005
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: You can look this up.

1006
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: I believe we're playing we're hosting the Spurs today or

1007
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: tonight the Wolves are Okay, double check that fights today?

1008
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: That is today?

1009
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: What time is that six o'clock? I'm assuming on the

1010
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: Timberwolves channel or maybe even is it on the fan? Okay,

1011
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: good enough, and we're playing the Spurs?

1012
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: Correct?

1013
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, did we play yesterday? The answer is yes, yes.

1014
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: Did the San Antonio Spurs Davy play yesterday? We looked

1015
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: that up for me, Yes, because I believe they played

1016
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: in Boston and beat the Celtics.

1017
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: That was yesterday.

1018
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: That was awesome yesterday? Is that correct?

1019
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: Now?

1020
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: What time do we know the time that game started

1021
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: compare to our game, because somebody's still going to try

1022
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: to find a distinction even though we get to come

1023
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: back home and the Spurs are having to come to

1024
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: our house right for back to back. So if it's

1025
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: a double schedule loss, how do we how do we

1026
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: determine how that works? I mean, do we still get

1027
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: credit for a schedule loss if we lose this game?

1028
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: Or is that nullified by the fact that they also

1029
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: played last night or yesterday.

1030
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: That was a seven o'clock start in Boston, Davy.

1031
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: So that's a bigger disadvantage because wasn't our game earlier?

1032
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: Our game was a late afternoon game. Was it that early?

1033
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, So that should I'm hoping nullify

1034
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: the basketball people who if we get you know, drilled

1035
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: today by by Wemban Yama, that that that it's you know, yeah,

1036
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: it's not great, but it's it's a schedule loss situation.

1037
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick pause back in just a minute

1038
00:56:39,360 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: here in the Blake Moore you mentioned the Adam Schefter

1039
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: tweet from earlier. Former Packers president Bob Harlan is royalty

1040
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. His son, Brian is an agent who

1041
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: represents John Harbaugh. John de Harbaugh has deep Midwestern roots

1042
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: and ties. If the Packers decide they want to change

1043
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: head coaches, Harbaugh would be the most logical replacement. Brian

1044
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Harlan used to be big shot media relations guy eighty

1045
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: five Bears. I knew him at the time pretty well.

1046
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: He's a really good media relations guy. So would his

1047
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Bears connections.

1048
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: Bother you?

1049
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: Like, is he a mole for the Bears or would

1050
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: you be Okay, despite the fact that he's gone on

1051
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: to something different, would that give you pause on hiring

1052
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: John Harball.

1053
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: It would not, just because Bob was the president for

1054
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: so long. And then Kevin. Don't forget Kevin Harland. He's

1055
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: the voice of Packer preseason football. So no, I think

1056
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: two is greater than one. So we'll take that.

1057
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, let me get to some other

1058
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: texts as we continue with the first of many, many

1059
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: two hour editions of sermons. I'm thinking because I there's

1060
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: rarely would there be any sports live sports that would

1061
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: start early enough to preempt.

1062
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: Us correct, Yeah, unless there's a Gopher basketball game here earlier.

1063
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, it starts at eleven.

1064
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: That's a game that cost coaches their job, blowing an

1065
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: eighteen point lead to a division rival in the same

1066
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: manner as they did earlier in the season. It's bad

1067
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: at seven, sixth three. I can't argue with that. Yeah,

1068
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's fair. But now, what you

1069
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: call yourself religious about demanding a coaching change or did

1070
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: I hear you during the highly rated Packers review show today?

1071
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: Historic?

1072
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Say?

1073
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much historic?

1074
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: The number the overnights are through the roof already that

1075
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: as much as it's not good, you know, es talk

1076
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: radio fair, you're not necessarily pounding your fist either way.

1077
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm just not firmly in

1078
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: either camp. Now, let's say we could go and talk

1079
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: to Harbaugh and essentially hire him before we let that go,

1080
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: and we know it's a share fire thing. Yes, then

1081
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: maybe we can talk. I just worry about what's on,

1082
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: you know, I talk about the ninety ten. We've got

1083
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: ninety percent of what we're looking for in LA floor,

1084
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: but that ten percent of getting over it.

1085
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: It's the hump hard argue.

1086
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: So but if you go to another guy, you might

1087
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: not even have that ninety So I'm not really firmly

1088
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: in either camp. I think there's valid evidence on either side,

1089
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: and it sucks because that's not the great sports. I

1090
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: should come on and he's gotta go, And I just

1091
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: am not that confident yet either way. But I do

1092
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: agree with the original Texters point that that's the narrative

1093
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: has changed because of that game, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let me see where we're at here, A lot I

1095
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: had a text I should have saved it. Well, here,

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: let's get to a couple of the Vikings ones This

1097
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: is not JJ McCarthy's fault. Quazy decided a long time

1098
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: with the Vikings were not going with Donald or Jones,

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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: and that was going to be McCarthy QB. This is

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01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: McCarthy's year at quarterback from Minnesota when he should have

1101
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: been the backup for one more year. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of controversy or criticism about JJ. Before we look for

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: new quarterback, let's look for a new general manager.

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01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Look.

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: I understand that there's great room for vulnerability when it

1106
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: comes to the GM as it pertains to drafting in general.

1107
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: But I'll say what I've said before, based on the

1108
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: people I trust who cover this team every day. In

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: a way, I don't you're foolish if you think this

1110
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: was a quasy move at quarterback. There is not a

1111
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: chance in hell that that wasn't a KOC move that

1112
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: the general manager.

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: Basically agreed with or agreed to do.

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the quarterback approach and what

1115
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings have done, the head coach's fingerprints are all

1116
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: over that, and so I think it's dangerous to try

1117
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: to separate the two of them on that one. And

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01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: I would still I would actually put that part of

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: it more on the head coach than I would on

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Speaker 1: the general manager. Eric Mulsselman equals quite literally the prodigal son.

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01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: Returning Your interview with Musselma on Friday was fun, nostalgic,

1122
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: and insightful. I really enjoyed the reliving the Globe Trotter

1123
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: pregame show talk Flip being an integral part of that.

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01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that Eric name dropped Luke Witty,

1125
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: who I wonder if the kids to have any idea of.

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01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: Luke Whitty was the Ohio State center who basically got

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: beaten up, got assaulted in that game, the infamous Williams

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: Arena brawl between Ohio State and Minnesota. And yeah, Eric

1129
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: alluded to the fact that everything came back to him

1130
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: about entrances and exits, including the hallway he remembered Luke

1131
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Whittie being taken out in a stretcher when he got

1132
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: hurt that game. Now, I didn't think the timing was right.

1133
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: We were running out of time to get into that

1134
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: subject in more depth with Eric. We might do that

1135
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: at a different time, because I don't know we were

1136
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: talked to him about what his recollections were. I think

1137
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: he would have been eight or nine years old at

1138
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: that point. But what he remembers about that horrific occasion,

1139
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: because that was a stain on the program. It was

1140
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: a stain on that part of the Bill Musselman legacy.

1141
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about that as well. Day from des Moines writes,

1142
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: I believe the NFC North is fairly equitable across all teams,

1143
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: makes for a great division. I'm always surprised at a

1144
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: perception that Green Bay is a great team without a

1145
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback.

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01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: They are a good team.

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Love is good, but out hall of Famer in my opinion, Sorry,

1148
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Blakemore Not sure why, but as a Viking find I

1149
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: always enjoy when the Bears win. I hope they go

1150
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: further except for Pa. Apparently, according to Lovel PA's got

1151
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: some Yeah, i'mgoing I don't agenda against the Bears. I

1152
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the Bears had done to him. I would,

1153
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, because the Bears have been relatively irrelevant to

1154
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings through much of you know, the last twenty years,

1155
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: right compared to speaking compared to Green Bay.

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01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you had any doubt of

1157
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: we had this talk all time. Who's the Packers' biggest rival,

1158
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: is it the Vikings of the Bears.

1159
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: PA is not.

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01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 3: Coming into Packer preview to interrupt the show, you know

1161
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: what I mean? But does he will drive across down

1162
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: to interrupt Packer preview.

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: In Lavelle's case, it's how many opportunities has he really had? Well,

1164
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: there's that in the last twenty years to cackle about

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: anything regarding the monsters the midway, So that part of

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: it is as well. Let's pause full half hour yet

1167
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: to go, will continue with some texts and discuss other

1168
01:03:48,840 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: matters of controversy when we return.

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 4: The Bears or who we thought they were, and that's

1170
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Speaker 4: why we took the damn field.

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01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 3: Now, if you want to crown them, they crown their ass.

1172
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: But they are who we thought they were and we

1173
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: learnt about the hook.

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: That's the second time you heard that SoundBite today on

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01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: the fan.

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: The first time it was between eight and nine on

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01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: Packer Review, and it did fit perfectly that emotion from

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: Denny Green.

1179
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: Denny, of course, for the kids.

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Had long left Minnesota and the Vikings in the rearview

1181
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: mirror and was the head coach in Arizona and they

1182
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: had well similar score. Packers were up what twenty one

1183
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: to three. Arizona I believe was up twenty to nothing

1184
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: on the Bears. And this was a national was it

1185
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: a Monday night game? It was a national game. In fact,

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 1: I think this was during the Tony Kornheiser experiment as

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: color analyst on the ESPN crew and the Bears. I

1188
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: don't know if they were undefeated going into that game,

1189
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: but they were off to a great start. This is

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: a Lovey Smith team and the Arizona's got him on

1191
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: the ropes twenty to nothing and then the Bears ended

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01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: up winning that game was a twenty one to twenty

1193
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: or twenty four to twenty, I don't even remember.

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: But they got like a.

1195
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: Fumble recovery for a touchdown Erlackers stripped a running back.

1196
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: They got it too fumble. It was what that team did.

1197
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: They were very resourceful at takeaways like this team. And

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: I think that Bears team ended up in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That was the year.

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: I believe they lost in the Super Bowl to the

1201
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Colt Yeah, the Manning year. But that melt down from

1202
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: Danny after the game has been off repeated around the

1203
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: country many many times. There are many different circumstances and

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could feel his rage and his frustration

1205
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: as well, because all you packer goofballs all week.

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01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: That's the team we want to play.

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, we'll go back to Chicago.

1208
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: We'll play them today.

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: All you guys said, be careful what you wish for,

1210
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: And that's all I'm going to say. He may have

1211
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: knocked your head coach out of a job, knocked you

1212
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: right out of the postseason. And by the way, the

1213
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: Bears get a second home game, it'll be either they'll

1214
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: be hosting either the Eagles. If Philly beats the Niners,

1215
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: they'll play Philly. If the Niners beat Philly, then I

1216
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: believe the Rams will come to Chicago. That's the way

1217
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: it'll work. Obviously, the lowest seeded team goes to Seattle

1218
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 1: because Seattle has got the number one overall seed as well.

1219
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: But that was a, I guess, a remarkable turn of events.

1220
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: Somebody's saying, wasn't that a preseason game?

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01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Dan?

1222
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: No, what is it? What are they talking about? Preseason game?

1223
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: It was a regular season, primetime game. We're talking about

1224
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: the Bears Cardinals game where that elicited that response.

1225
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: You don't smack the table like that for a preseason.

1226
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Now Danny liked winning games in

1227
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: the preseason, but I don't remember, uh anything about that

1228
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: part of it.

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: Somebody did tweet out overnight that if you are, if

1230
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: you grew up a fan of the Bears an Indiana

1231
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: University as a concept in football, that you aren't even

1232
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: convinced you're alive at this point, that you think this

1233
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: is some kind of afterlife confluence of events that otherwise

1234
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: are just not possible.

1235
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: And there is some truth to that, there's no question.

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: It's why I said, for those that joining that I

1237
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: felt as down as Sinecon was regarding the packer meltdown,

1238
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: that he was less down than you because he's still

1239
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,879
Speaker 1: you know, got the he's still living off the fumes

1240
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: of what Indiana did in the rematch against Oregon on

1241
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: Friday night, and now they're preparing for the championship game.

1242
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's going to go to He always said, well,

1243
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: I should probably try to do it.

1244
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Guards He's been on me for weeks to get in

1245
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: on this.

1246
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: I however, the according to Sinecon, the ticket, the get

1247
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: in ticket price right now, and I don't know how

1248
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: much this changes as you get closer to game day.

1249
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 2: Is four thousand dollars? Does that? I guess that's possible.

1250
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know now.

1251
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: Indiana, because this last game, which was in the Peach

1252
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: Bowl in Atlanta, I guess it was like ninety percent

1253
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Indiana fans. They are absolutely, ununderstandably reveling in this run

1254
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: because they've never had anything like it. I mean, they

1255
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: know they may never even see anything like it again,

1256
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: and so they're they're milking it. They're they're taking it

1257
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: all in and taking full advantage of it as uh

1258
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: as well.

1259
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 3: I just looked on a resale website. Okay, so it's

1260
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: not the official one. Sennicon is not lined four grand.

1261
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: The cheapest one I see is thirty six hundred thirty

1262
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: six hundred, and I'm assuming that's not for a great

1263
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: seat section three oh seven, row twenty nine.

1264
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: So that's third level out up there. That's up. They've

1265
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: got to be up there, pretty to the top. You

1266
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: will see.

1267
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: But it is. I was telling senecon yesterday, this could be.

1268
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: I understand Signetti's here to stay. Yeah, right, here we go,

1269
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: but it could be with how college sports are once

1270
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: in a lifetime.

1271
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely even I think he's proven to me with

1272
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: the talent he's now getting his hands on, which is

1273
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: actually better, that's the irony of it, than the talent

1274
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: he currently has, because he has literally somebody did the

1275
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: chart five stars.

1276
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: He's got zero.

1277
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: Oregon had I think five or six and a bunch

1278
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 1: of four stars.

1279
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Indiana had a few of those, for whatever that's worth.

1280
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: But the confluence of events, Yeah, it's hard to count

1281
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: on this sort of thing. I mean, here's the analogy

1282
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: I made the other day. What the Indiana run is

1283
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: starting to feel like a little bit for those of

1284
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: us who grew up with the Bears is the eighty

1285
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: five Bears run because it so far in the postseason run,

1286
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Indiana has not, I mean has not been challenged, right,

1287
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: the Bears in the post that postseason run were never challenged. Now,

1288
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think there were great any great teams that year, actually,

1289
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: but they and then they won the Super Bowl like

1290
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: forty six to ten.

1291
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: I think it was.

1292
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: So what's what's fascinating is they've almost taken so far

1293
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: any drama out of it because they've just been so

1294
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: dominant on in the regular season.

1295
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 2: They had a couple of difficult games.

1296
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: To that end, Dan and Owatana writes, Dan, I'll admit

1297
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of the Indiana run. I'm a huge

1298
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: PJ fan. But the talent capetina two teams is very real.

1299
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: If you can boil it down, what does SIG have

1300
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: that PJ doesn't. Is it just a matter of gaining

1301
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: more experience, better assistance. If I'm a kid, I like

1302
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Pj's energy, but winning is definitely SIG's gig. I google

1303
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: SIG and I guess all he does is win. Well,

1304
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: that's the irony of this.

1305
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

1306
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: The Indiana talent is viewed as better now because of

1307
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: what they've done, but what if you go to the

1308
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: front end. But the way the talent was evaluated, it

1309
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: wasn't evaluated as great, great talent, even the QB.

1310
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: I mean the QB came from cal.

1311
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: He didn't come from a blue blood and was not

1312
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: rated highly at all coming out of high school.

1313
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: I don't believe. So I don't know what he's got.

1314
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can can explain it. He does

1315
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: have age on his team, that's there's been a lot

1316
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: of discussion about that. Because he's got he's he's taken

1317
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: full advantage of the post COVID rules, which allow you know,

1318
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: college players to stay until they're thirty two years old.

1319
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: He has taken advantage of that, but it's got to

1320
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: be more than that, because they've got to be able.

1321
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: To play.

1322
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 4: It.

1323
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: It seems to be a combination of things that, you know,

1324
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: people say he's very good with he gets very good assistance,

1325
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: he's very well organized. The other thing i'd heard was

1326
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: he's not one of those coaches who you know, drives

1327
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: his team for three hours.

1328
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: It's the old we go hard, but we don't waste.

1329
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: We're not going to try to flex to prove anybody

1330
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: that we can drive our players for three hours.

1331
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: He thinks that's stupid.

1332
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: He thinks that's in the end, you get players hurt

1333
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 1: that way, and they're not as fresh as the otherwise

1334
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: would be.

1335
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: So it's the old.

1336
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: It's actually, if you go back far enough, it's the

1337
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 1: Bob Knight philosophy. Despite his reputation, Knights practices, which I

1338
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:26,879
Speaker 1: attended were not four hours, like they didn't go on forever.

1339
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: They were extremely intense, but he got in and he

1340
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: got out. That's what he tended to believe in. And

1341
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: apparently this guy does too, And I think Signetti is

1342
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: a little less I might wear better because I think

1343
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: he's a little less autocratic in that's in the sense

1344
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: that might in terms of how he deals without siders,

1345
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: et cetera. I think he might be able to last

1346
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: a little bit longer. You know, I've made the point

1347
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: before that you were now what I would argue, basically

1348
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: six years removed from what was supposed to be the breakthrough.

1349
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: PJ season here, the twenty nineteen season.

1350
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean it's fair to expect every year

1351
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: be like that, even though that year they didn't really completely.

1352
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: Take advantage of it. But I just think we've had

1353
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: too many of these meandering middle of the roads. Yeah,

1354
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: winning more than you're losing. And we've said it a

1355
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: million times. He's raised the floor, but he has not

1356
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: raised the ceiling to my liking enough to where I

1357
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,480
Speaker 1: want to keep giving him endless contract extensions and necessarily

1358
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: celebrate him. And the delicious part of the Indiana story

1359
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: is we've been told over and over again there's just

1360
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: some places you can't do. You can't make that kind

1361
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: of a jump. And what Signetti has said to that

1362
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: is you're wrong, you can't now what people like to

1363
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: say now as well. Yeah, but now he's got a

1364
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of money. He didn't have a lot of money

1365
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: when he started. The money started coming in when they

1366
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: had their big breakthrough season last year, and it's kind

1367
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: of built from from there as well. Bratt checks in

1368
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: from inver Grove Heights. I'm recently retired, lying on a

1369
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: beach in Fort Myers. That sounds pretty good and listening

1370
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: to sermons. This may literally be the best show ever.

1371
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Vikings fan, but I do enjoy

1372
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: when division rivals lose, especially when it's an epic meltdown.

1373
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait until next weekend when the Bears fall

1374
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: apart like the Packers did. Regards of the sport, it's

1375
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: it's all about they have everything and we have nothing.

1376
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: That's why I enjoy when Minnesota sports rivals lose. It's

1377
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: an interesting take, Yeah he did. Yeah, it's an interesting take.

1378
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: I guess you can look at it that way.

1379
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1380
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any guarantee that the Bears are

1381
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: even going to win this week at all, as I

1382
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: still think there's some flaws to the clubb You know,

1383
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: the cliche continues to be well you can't, you know you.

1384
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: Brady said it after the last Green Bay game. You

1385
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: can't keep getting behind because you get into the playoffs,

1386
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: you play better and better teams and it's just too

1387
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: big a hill to climb. That's largely true, but it's

1388
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: obvious they feel like they're gaining if you are in

1389
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: that position, confidence that they can do something about it.

1390
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: Which again, but you got to realize if you have not,

1391
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: if you do not, grow up on the Bears. The

1392
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: monumental aspect of this is having what vikings fans have

1393
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: been able to take for granted, Packers fans have been

1394
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: able to take for granted, even Lions fans recently been

1395
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: able to take for granted a real offense, you know,

1396
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: an offense that might not always do the job like

1397
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: yours didn't in the second half, but can on occasion

1398
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: just take over a game, explode, dominate a game with

1399
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: what's classified as a real twenty first century passing game.

1400
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: This is a team that is lived in the Chromagnut

1401
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: period forever when it comes to everything offensive, but especially

1402
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: the passing game. That's what's so remarkable about this. The

1403
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: if you told, if you told little Danny Barrero that

1404
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: at any point. This would be beyond the imagination a

1405
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 1: little Danny Barrero. Your team is going to score twenty

1406
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: five points in a single quarter, not only a single quarter,

1407
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, not only a fourth quarter, but the

1408
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a playoff game. Say you're out of

1409
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: your mind. I mean, is that that's not even legal

1410
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: to score twenty five points in a quarter?

1411
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 3: Is it?

1412
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: Because? I mean I watched those offenses. They were just hideous.

1413
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: They had great running backs, you know, Walter Payton, Gail

1414
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: Sayers and a few others, but they just didn't have

1415
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: any That's what I think makes this whole thing feel

1416
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: a little bit different.

1417
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to a couple more texts.

1418
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: Any new gossip about your who else you're going to

1419
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: look at, or whether he's actually maybe he's not going

1420
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: to get fired the pack. I don't think we should

1421
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: assume he's gone. Should I don't think so either.

1422
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it changes the narrative for sure, But I again,

1423
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: rap sheet before the game yesterday yesterday morning, Lafloor, regardless

1424
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 3: of result, Lafleur and President Policy are going to meet

1425
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 3: for a contract extension. So that was.

1426
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: The game. A game that's played out the way it did.

1427
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: That is true, which cannot be to an eight guy.

1428
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: Yes, Sigg appears to be an excellent coach, players want

1429
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: to play form, But I don't think Minnesota has Mark

1430
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: cuban kind of money.

1431
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:36,919
Speaker 2: For their program.

1432
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: Got to do this again, Yeah, I guess we do

1433
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: unless you know something I do. And I would love

1434
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: to hear your common in the amount of money they

1435
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: have versus what we have.

1436
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying PJ.

1437
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: Flex shouldn't do more than he has already, but money

1438
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: buys a lot of things in life. What I'll say

1439
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: on that is what I have said before you've heard

1440
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: it before, is that based on everything I have been

1441
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: told by people who know, this has become the I

1442
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: hate to look at it this way, but let's be.

1443
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: Blunt and honest about it. The Mark Cuban.

1444
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban has become an excuse for other programs, including Minnesota's.

1445
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: For a wow, we just can't. We just can't do

1446
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: that much money.

1447
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: Money talks, and what's left out conveniently of that is

1448
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 1: and Mark Cuban's on the record with this.

1449
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: Until after.

1450
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: After Minnesota, I should say Ineana's breakthrough season last year,

1451
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: breakout season coming after I think three straight, three and

1452
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: nine seasons. Mark Cuban hadn't given the football program a dime,

1453
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: he'd given the university money, hadn't given the program a dime.

1454
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: So you can't leave that out conveniently to try to

1455
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: cover up for what hasn't been done here or elsewhere. Yeah,

1456
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: you just shake your head. They got Mark Cuban they're

1457
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: supposed to do, which is part of the reason why

1458
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: I was PJ.

1459
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: Fleck.

1460
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: I would never ever consider leaving here because on that basis,

1461
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: he's bulletproof. But he's beyond criticism. He's above criticism and

1462
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: he can never be There can never be any discussion

1463
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: about replacing him because pressures off of him. So why

1464
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: would he ever want to leave that sort of luxury

1465
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: because he makes good money. So yeah, is it helping now, Yes,

1466
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 1: but the breakthrough season took place first. We're still waiting

1467
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: six years after the big year for another breakthrough season

1468
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: that goes beyond playing in a meaningless ball and winning it.

1469
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: And so that's why I even hate the name coming up.

1470
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: And I'll add go find your Mark Cuban. We had him,

1471
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: but you the university blew that one a while ago.

1472
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know what to tell you. It is

1473
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: factual that it's part of the story now money more

1474
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: than ever, even though it's always been a part of it.

1475
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: But don't let history be reinvented on the sequence that

1476
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: took place. Yeah, right now, I'm assuming in this up

1477
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: ming here, Indiana money dwarfs Minnesota money. I don't doubt

1478
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: that at that point this would be the case. But

1479
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: think of what I just said, Indiana University football money

1480
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: now dwarfs Minnesota's. I mean five years ago you said

1481
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,839
Speaker 1: why we are to your minds Indiana football? Who cares?

1482
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: Huh?

1483
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: And Mark Cuban had was a billionaire a long time ago.

1484
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: What changed?

1485
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: Well, obviously the system changed, that's part of it. But

1486
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: another part of it was he became energized by what

1487
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: took place and said, yeah, they showed him on the

1488
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: sidelines of the game.

1489
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: He's all in at this point.

1490
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun for him as as well.

1491
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: Dan Defense wins championships, promote Floras and dumb Koc. This

1492
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: is a growing sentiment. You're wasting your time. It's not

1493
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: going to happen. I'm not calling for it. I've been

1494
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: critical of Koc at times, especially the way the approach

1495
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: that the team decided to take at the quarterback position,

1496
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: which I think was a mistake. And that's not after

1497
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: the fact, but before the fact. And by the way,

1498
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: I endorsed the McCarthy drafting. I'm not giving up on him.

1499
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. I'm not giving up, but I just don't

1500
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: think that that makes a lot of sense on a

1501
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: number of levels. And you could say defense wins championships,

1502
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: but you know, I think in twenty twenty five and six,

1503
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty much more complicated than that. For sure, the

1504
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: university should not have said no to t Denny Sandford. Yeah,

1505
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: that's an old story which we've discussed much on this program,

1506
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,520
Speaker 1: and to that extent, they probably have never completely recovered

1507
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: from it. But I'll also say again, can even the

1508
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: biggest Gopher hole apologists say with a straight face that

1509
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: there's a buzz about University of Minnesota football? Not that again,

1510
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: it's much better consistently than it used to be, there's

1511
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: no question. But is there a buzz? Is there something

1512
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: in the air about like, man, we're energized by this

1513
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: thing And the answer is no, Not enough is happening

1514
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Speaker 1: at this point, Nothing of significance happened this year. We

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: laid out all those numbers before they The teams they

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: beat were awful. The teams they lost to they got

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01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: killed by every time that mattered. They had one legitimate

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: victory this year that you could get excited about, and

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01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: that was the Nebraska game. And the Nebraska, to be

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: honest with you, got exposed the rest of the season

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01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: and even postseason is not being very good. But at

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01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: the time they beat him fair and square, and they

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01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: beat them, they dominated them.

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Speaker 2: But that's basically it.

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01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: In a pro town, especially and Bloomington, Indiana is not

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: a pro town, they have that advantage. But they've had

1527
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: that advantage for one hundred years and it didn't matter

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01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: in football. So now does does signettes grow on trees?

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01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Probably not?

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01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: But I just think it's too easy to It's you

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01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: can hide behind it all you want. And then I'll

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: say again, then, why why do we bother to analyze

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: any aspect to what takes place here and.

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01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: What the coach does. Just it's just, you know, it's.

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01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: If if he has bears no responsibility. I mean, I've

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01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: been told by a number of people that in the

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: in the in the portal, they didn't do in terms

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01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: of the decisions they made last year, they didn't do

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01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: particularly well.

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01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: Is that we are Can we.

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01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Talk about that so that even though it wasn't just

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01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: what money you had, but the decisions that you made,

1543
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: were they the best decisions? Because again, a lot of

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 1: the players Indiana got originally they weren't highly regarded players.

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01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: They really weren't. And the QB, as I said, he

1546
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: ended up getting I think, very good money, but he

1547
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: came from cal and they made they've maximized, so we're

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be surprised that when you maximize the degree

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01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: they do, you're going to have a lot more flexibility

1550
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,839
Speaker 1: than you did previously and a lot more financial resources.

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01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: It's not difficult.

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 3: It should be noted that PJ flex Big Ten record

1553
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: thirty nine and forty. He is below five hundred in

1554
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 3: the Big ten conference, and you will still have droves

1555
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 3: of people saying, well, you won the Rate Bowl. Well,

1556
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: we're just happy to be a five hundred club. And

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01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 3: if that's the case, then knock yourself out a couple

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01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: more techs late.

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01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: So the Wolves, by the way against the Spurs on

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: the fan today, what time evening game?

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 3: He said, se yeah, believe it's an evening game. Yeah,

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01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 3: doubble check.

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01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: If you get a time before we go, that'd be fine.

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: Can you six o'clock? Yeah, six o'clock start, all right,

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01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And Gihnny Athletic will be on the program tomorrow.

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01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Guardi's in tomorrow. I don't think we'll have

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01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: any vikings. Well, if we have, these talking points still

1568
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: be related to larger issues than who did what in

1569
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: the game, because there is no game today. I do

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01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: feel avoid Once the season ends, whether it's at the

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01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: end of the regular season because you didn't make the

1572
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: postseason or because you lose in the first round of

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01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,440
Speaker 1: the postseason, the ABYSS begins.

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01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: Right seasonal boost.

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 1: Seasonal Boost is utterly and completely dead, and the ABYSS

1576
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: is about to begin now.

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01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: The question is whether.

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Speaker 1: For the third consecutive winter and spring and for the

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: first consecutive winter and spring, the Minnesota Timberwolves in the

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota Wild can nicely fill in the ABYSS.

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: Will we be talking about the wild in mid May?

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

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01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 3: I sure hope so. I think we will, and I

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01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 3: think that'll make another big swing.

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to think that there's not much question about that.

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01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate the text today, we appreciate those stopping by

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01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: to say hello, including Lavelle eat Neil the Third. And

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 1: we will talk to you tomorrow, beginning at three o'clock

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Speaker 1: right here in the fan