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Speaker 1: There it is, you know it's Friday. Judge Trecker doing

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Speaker 1: the woo hoo button. Thank you, Joe Treker, Executive producer

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cars Morning Show. Brian Thomas right here.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be looking forward to hearing from you. If

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Speaker 1: many on the list. Quite candidly, I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: more snow to come to. We'll get the forecast here.

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Speaker 1: You got the forecast there a moment ago. Anyway, let

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Speaker 1: us see here coming up with fifty five cares See

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Speaker 1: Morning show. It is Friday, of course, Tech Friday with

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter got a couple of minutes accused in a

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Speaker 1: local card skimming case. Those things seem to be growing.

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Speaker 1: Users are saying no to the Windows eleven upgrade. We'll

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Speaker 1: find out why from Dave and Google apparently sharing your

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Speaker 1: text messages with your employer. Dave hates Google, and to

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Speaker 1: the extent that that is true, obviously, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: a subtext of that. I hate Google as well. Why

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Speaker 1: that's what we Dave hadter for keeping you out of trouble,

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Speaker 1: at least trying to if you listen to him. Private

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Speaker 1: Citizen Brad Winster returns of the thirty five Krsey Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: Hope he allows an extra ten minutes to get in.

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Speaker 1: It's an hour of power with Brad Winster. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of things talk about with him. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we can weave into some of the things like the

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan and oil tanker seizure. We talked to him about that,

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Speaker 1: and as I find out, actually, you know me due process.

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Speaker 1: I know people hate me because I still believe in

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Speaker 1: due process and the Constitution and you know, following the

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Speaker 1: rule of law. It's one of my criticisms about you know,

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Speaker 1: launching missiles and dropping bombs all over the place without

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Speaker 1: any even congressional involvement. We've been down that road a

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Speaker 1: million times, most notably of late with Massy Napolitano of course,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson the other day. But at least as

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Speaker 1: far as the Venezuelan oil strikes are concerned, they went

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Speaker 1: to court, they got a warrant apparently following the law,

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Speaker 1: and that's and they're going to further go to court.

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Speaker 1: We're planning on keeping the oil, but we're going through

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Speaker 1: the court process and presumably that'll give Venezuela an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to come into court and make an argument for their case. Fine,

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Speaker 1: that legitimizes the whole process, and that's all I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: You can stand behind the law no, we followed the law.

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Speaker 1: No tolerance for lawbreakers. So get Brad's comments on that.

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Speaker 1: Beverly Park Williams, she's got a book, Parallel and Separate,

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Speaker 1: local author. She reached out to me about this book.

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Speaker 1: Parallel with Separate, a tale of two sisters. It's a torria,

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Speaker 1: a story of her mom and her sister Janet, who

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Speaker 1: legal process and one was directed to be raised by

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Speaker 1: the author's mother and the other, one moved over, was

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Speaker 1: going to talk to you with with Beverly Park Williams.

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Speaker 1: That'll take place at eighth five of course Monday on

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Speaker 1: the morning show, Christopher Smith Men and Money Money with

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Speaker 1: happy birthday in our heads. Anyway to west Side Jim Keefer,

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Speaker 1: it's his birthday today, Jim Keeper, Happy birthday, my friend,

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Speaker 1: So to all my friends out there, it's just I

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Speaker 1: it's other listeners in the audience making friends themselves, establishing

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Speaker 1: other's faces. That's what it's all about from my perspective. Oh, Ed, look,

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Iire us Rawli, don't you? She loves the police? Not

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Speaker 1: she got a new contract.

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Speaker 1: Elections have consequences don't they Joe brand new contract, which,

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, timing is everything. City manager share Along signed

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Speaker 1: the new contract two days after the election November on

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Speaker 1: November sixth. What's it worth? Six hundred and sixty four thousand,

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Speaker 1: three hundred dollars an independent consultant, which means she's not

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Speaker 1: bound by the nepotism rules that actual city employees are. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't hire your son. No, you can't you know,

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Speaker 1: funnel proceeds to your husband, which is exactly what Irishly

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Speaker 1: apparently did. According to the Paula Christian Hbxmedia dot net

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Speaker 1: i team Channel nine, new contract authorizes a Summer in

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Speaker 1: SINSI program, which is apparently at least allegedly designed to

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Speaker 1: help youth and prevent violent crime between the months of

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Speaker 1: June and August, expanding the Government Square initiative from mid

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Speaker 1: August through October. City agree tobate ninety four thre hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars for that work performed months earlier. It's pointed out, Oh,

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Speaker 1: look Toddzen's or citizen watchdog here locally, former US Inspector

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Speaker 1: I cannot encourage you enough to listen to what Todd

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Speaker 1: over the what I'd like the character the Shenanigan's going

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Speaker 1: nine and the contract has been controversial, and it should

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Speaker 1: not be surprising that the city administrator or a city

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Speaker 1: Channel nine, but they did obtain new records. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: love this. The ITAM uncovered that the city spent more

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Speaker 1: than thirteen hundred dollars for T shirts, hoodies, and performance

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Speaker 1: shirts for government square workers. Now that's one thing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we all need to look like, we all need to

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Speaker 1: be able to be identified. Fine, Joe, how much do

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Speaker 1: you think it would cost to get a T shirt? Online?

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Speaker 1: You can order a custom T shirt from Amazon for

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Speaker 1: what five ten bucks? Yeah, it's cheap. How many T

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Speaker 1: grand scheme of the fraud, waste and abuse that goes

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Speaker 1: go to Amazon and buy or someplace else, purchased from

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Speaker 1: a company registered to Iris Rolli's husband HM invoices dated

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Speaker 1: March twenty fifth from BLG Accessories and Apparel located at

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Speaker 1: twenty two oh six Langdon Farm Road. Anyway, bottom Liarci says,

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Speaker 1: company's Roach Show and Black Lives Golfing. That's a new

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Speaker 1: one on me. Not to be confused with Black Lives Matter,

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Speaker 1: who's one of the major founders of which was just

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Speaker 1: accused of embezzling tons of money. There's your financial contribution

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Speaker 1: it benefited her and her acquisition of a bunch of

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Speaker 1: real estate. Different story anyway, Black Lives Golfing registered to

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Speaker 1: into that. Todd Zenzer's response to that, it does make

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Speaker 1: it look like it's a family business. This kind of

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Speaker 1: transaction doesn't make it look fair. True, And of course

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Speaker 1: no violations or conflicts of interest. The contract was executed

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Speaker 1: once terms were agreed upon. Steve Gooden, our favorite lawyer,

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Speaker 1: to give this business to her husband's company or parenthetically,

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Speaker 1: as we all know, hire her son who worked in

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Speaker 1: that government square program. I think he do you get

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Speaker 1: convicted felon Joe? No, he was in jail or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't I don't draw any conclusions from that.

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Speaker 1: I get older, fading anyway, not be able to give

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Speaker 1: in this particular case, actually doing the hiring. You see

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Speaker 1: Iris rolling her husband, laying in bed, having a little

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Speaker 1: How come you didn't give me the T shirt business?

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Speaker 1: You know I do run Row Show, We make T

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Speaker 1: shirts and stuff. Why did you go to Amazon and

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Speaker 1: appearance of impropriety, USHN, but you're not bound by that.

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Speaker 1: There's no nepotism policy against an independent contractor. You're an

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Speaker 1: independent contractor. Give me the business. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: can just imagine impossibly that or maybe her leaning over

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Speaker 1: to him again. Guess what, honey, I got a contract

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Speaker 1: for you. Your company's going to fulfill the T shirt,

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Speaker 1: hoodie and performance garb requirements, and I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you the business. Thank you. Joe Strecker Gooden pointed, I said,

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Speaker 1: what she's doing here is not illegal. But my point

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Speaker 1: of view is it should be illegal. Question. It should

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Speaker 1: be illegal, shouldn't it. Do you think the city council

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Speaker 1: will change their policy to say no tep nepotism for

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Speaker 1: independent contractors. No, at least my dad's listening to the

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Speaker 1: Morning show. God Bless you dead. You know, he passed

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Speaker 1: away on the ninth of December a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Missed him so much good and said whatever Roleie was

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Speaker 1: doing didn't work, speaking to the government square and found

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Speaker 1: initiative that her son was running. You know if peace,

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Speaker 1: love joy, handing out food and putting on t shirts

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Speaker 1: and spreading the love apparently didn't work because over the

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Speaker 1: summer we had massive problems and governments where and she

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Speaker 1: was already responsible for that or sub that out to

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Speaker 1: her son. Whatever role he was doing, it didn't work.

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Speaker 8: If I had a kazoo, I would do Happy birthday

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Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, happy birthday Jim. You Yeah, your your stories

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Speaker 1: You do the same, Tom. Be careful out there as

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Speaker 1: I feel everything should be put on hold until we

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Speaker 1: least she's focused on Yeah, ready, fire aim, Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: the Bengals slice of the pie first, But then we

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Speaker 1: got that pesky budget we need to deal with shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be dealing with it all at one point, one time,

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Speaker 1: at whatever it's we got a contractual obligation to do this.

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Speaker 1: As terrible as that is, it's the reality of where

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Speaker 1: we are. Five thirty six, Right now, fifty five KR

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Speaker 1: City Talk Station. I'll be right back, fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: the talk station, five forty one if if you have

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Speaker 1: KCD talk station. Jeffery has been waiting for this since

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Speaker 1: five o'clock. He lets me know with an instant message

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Speaker 1: every day or every Friday. Brother, Good morning, Jeffrey. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's your little bass riff. Let us see here. Going

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Speaker 1: back to Tom's comment that all lives matter, in my

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Speaker 1: comment is not racist. He knows it's not a racist statement.

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Speaker 1: Say everybody matters. Did you ever hear the breakdown about

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Speaker 1: how jingle bells is racist? We are into the stack

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Speaker 1: of stupid. Parenthetically, I know it's joy Read, you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of view her as like some talking head

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Speaker 1: or some Hollywood celebrity their opinion. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's not Donald Trump's favorite word to describe as stupid person. Though,

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Speaker 1: Joe joy Read said out a video saying jingle bells

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Speaker 1: is racist, and I got the lyrics here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to read them all, but go ahead and

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Speaker 1: try to remain objective when you're reading the lyrics and

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Speaker 1: see if you can find anything in there that even

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Speaker 1: suggests racism. Apparently the person who wrote it might have

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Speaker 1: been a racist. Confederate did composer James Lord Pierpont fought

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Speaker 1: for the Confederacy during this a war? But as many

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Speaker 1: point out, does his you know, being part of the

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Speaker 1: Confederate army and fighting for the cause of the Civil War,

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Speaker 1: of course in the South that was the cause of slavery,

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Speaker 1: does that make the song itself racist? And I'd never

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Speaker 1: even heard of him before. I had no idea he

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Speaker 1: was connected with the Confederacy, and I bet you didn't either. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I just am keep your stupid mouth shut. Not the

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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe. Of course, it's Friday, So we go to

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Speaker 1: Florida with a naked guy Florida man getting to help

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Speaker 1: he desperately needs after a viral video of him getting

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Speaker 1: hit by a car while running through traffic. What unidentified

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Speaker 1: man hit by the cars He's jogs through the busy intersection,

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Speaker 1: but he jumps right back up and kept running. Miami

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Speaker 1: police said The incident happened on Monday. Identified man was

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Speaker 1: placed in under Florida's Baker Act and that means an

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Speaker 1: involuntary temporary mental health hole. Police s of the man

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Speaker 1: as a military veteran. It was high on some drug.

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Speaker 1: That's in quotes. Driver of the car went to the

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Speaker 1: nearest police station to report the incident. Well, the TMZ

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Speaker 1: rights and we assumed to the car wash.

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Speaker 5: Now, who can argue with that?

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Speaker 1: Mansfield, Louisiana driver arrested after a pursuit on I forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Chase started at De Soto Paris Sheriff's Office. Deputy found

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Speaker 1: a man parked in the median shortly after three thirty.

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Speaker 1: Patrol sergeants saw White said in the median, where she

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Speaker 1: was headed to a separate scene. Requested a nearby patrol

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Speaker 1: unit to check up on the driver. Deputy showed up

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Speaker 1: found track Carlos Adura McNeil, forty nine years old from Houston,

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Speaker 1: sitting in the driver's seat naked. Alty say he appeared

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Speaker 1: to be under the influence of drug or experiencing a

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Speaker 1: mental episode. How about I go with the former.

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Speaker 6: Drugs are made at the.

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Speaker 1: Soota s Sheriff's Captain Michael Dunn said they spent several

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Speaker 1: minutes trying to talk with him to get him out

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Speaker 1: of the vehicle to safety. The situation, however, escalated when

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Speaker 1: McNeil suddenly drove off heading northbound in the southbound lanes

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Speaker 1: against the flow of traffic going about ninety miles an hour.

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Speaker 6: Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 1: I think it's the drugs oncoming traffic about a mile ahead,

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Speaker 1: Dunn said. The officer of deputies used a pit maneuver

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Speaker 1: to stop the vehicle, and it will be the knocking

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Speaker 1: out of the rear end of your car while you're

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Speaker 1: traveling down the road. DASHCN video shows the car spinning

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Speaker 1: into the barriers. Mc neil refused repeated commands to get

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Speaker 1: out of the car, continued to dance and yell what

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Speaker 1: canine in it? This one canine? Karen deployed in successfully

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Speaker 1: removing meil from the vehicle. Yeah, I imagine it did

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Speaker 1: take him to custo, especially you're naked man. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine a canine going after you when you don't have

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Speaker 1: any clothes on? How hard is it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Not much after that, in a custody went to the

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Speaker 1: Karen the dog was not injured. Those dogs loved doing

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Speaker 1: their job. They trained for getting people out of the

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Speaker 1: vehicles and buildings. Good girl, Good girl, the deputy could

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Speaker 1: be heard saying after the apprehension. After treatment, he was

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Speaker 1: booked into Vesotto Detention Center facing charge of aggravated flight

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Speaker 1: from an officer and resisting an officer. Could be facing

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Speaker 1: additional charge, though now he's booked for aggravated flight and resisting.

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Speaker 1: He does not have a criminal history in Louisiana, surprising everyone.

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Speaker 1: Five forty six right now, be right back with more stupid.

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Speaker 6: This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station, the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Five point fifty fifty five KCY talk station. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: your list of school in business closings has only about

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Speaker 1: twenty closings or delays on it, you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: short list. It's longer than that. I want to appreciate

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Speaker 1: Zimmerheating in Cooling for sponsoring the list. But the list

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Speaker 1: that's linked is a little short. So mind your school

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Speaker 1: in business closing selections. Now there you go, thank you, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Let us see here back over to the stack. Is stupid.

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Speaker 1: I don't get this stuff. Kenosha County, Wisconsin. We have

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Speaker 1: a teacher there former underscore the word. Elementary school staffer

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Speaker 1: has been accused of sexually assaulting a child. Pleaded guilty

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Speaker 1: to several felony charges. Accord to the Kenosha County District

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Speaker 1: Attorney's office, thirty four year old Anna Marie Crocker pleaded

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Speaker 1: guilty of following charges. First degree sexual child assault, child

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Speaker 1: sexual exploitation, parenne filming, child enticement specifically sexual contact, second

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Speaker 1: degree sexual assault of a child, intimidation of a victim,

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Speaker 1: and use of a computer to facilitate a child sex crime.

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Speaker 1: Photograph of her looks like a very attractive woman, at

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Speaker 1: least if her headshot is any indication. Why in the

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Speaker 1: hell would a thirty four year old attractive woman one

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Speaker 1: of a lasted child.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Forensic investigation, undercovered video, explicit messages, multiple acts of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 1: She's still in custody, going to be sentenced in February.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the lock up. District attorney said, people who work

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Speaker 1: in schools and whole positions of trust and authority over children,

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Speaker 1: and when that trust is violated through sexual abuse, who

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Speaker 1: represents a profound betrayal of trust and an immense abuse

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Speaker 1: of power. Well that's an understatement.

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Speaker 2: Who can argue with that.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen year old thirteen year old boy. There's not a

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Speaker 1: hot enough place in hell for people like that. Oh,

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Speaker 1: here's another place. Another man's going to be joining her

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Speaker 1: in the hot place in hell. Palm Beach County, Florida,

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Speaker 1: where a teacher has been arrested on allegations's of improper

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Speaker 1: relationships with his student. Twenty six year old Elias Farley

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Speaker 1: was working at Donocline Jewish Academy Boca Ratone had sexual

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Speaker 1: relations with one of his students, facing charges of unlawful

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Speaker 1: sexual activity with the minor offenses against a student by

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Speaker 1: an authority figure. They say the relationship began over the

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Speaker 1: summer when the two could communicate through a mutually shared

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Speaker 1: Google document. It escalated to the point of physical nature

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Speaker 1: once the current school year started. Cord to the rest form,

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Speaker 1: it included multiple encounters that occurred both in the school

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Speaker 1: and his apartment, and finally continuing Athene Sadly Connecticut, Meridian, Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: specifically a former music teacher there facing charges after police

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Speaker 1: said she had an inappropriate relationship with a student. Several

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Speaker 1: years ago. Sierra Picard, thirty nine, turned herself into police

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Speaker 1: December second. They say she's been charged with five counts

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Speaker 1: of second degree assault. Reported incidents happened while she was

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Speaker 1: working as a teacher at Maloney High School. She resigned

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Speaker 1: from the job in August. District called police as soon

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Speaker 1: as had heard about the allegations. This after Meridian Police

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Speaker 1: Department Special Crimes Unit said it took the case. Investigators

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Speaker 1: said they looked at into claims about inappropriate relationships between

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Speaker 1: her and the student who has since graduated. Student, now

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old, police that he started being groomed

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Speaker 1: by her as a freshman when he was fourteen years old.

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Speaker 1: When the student was sixteen and seventeen, during his junior

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Speaker 1: and senior years, he told police that multiple sexual assault

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Speaker 1: incidents occurred. Said the relationship evolved after his father died.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she took full advantage of that fun fact.

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Speaker 1: Now former student told him that during the junior year,

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Speaker 1: they wanted a trip with Picard to New York City

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Speaker 1: to watch a symphony. That's when he said they exchanged

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Speaker 1: their first kiss. During that year, text messages between the

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Speaker 1: two became sexual in nature. Picard asked the student to

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Speaker 1: delete the messages can unring that bell in this modern age, right,

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter coming up at six point thirty. Police said

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Speaker 1: they interviewed her in August asked if she had ever

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Speaker 1: had relationship with any student during her thirteen year tenure.

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Speaker 1: Initially denied it. However, police said she eventually said she

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Speaker 1: knew the student to whom police were referring, then admitted

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Speaker 1: the text between her and the student definitely crossed the line,

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Speaker 1: and also admitting the relationship was not okay. Yet, she

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Speaker 1: continued to deny the relationship was physical, told police the

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Speaker 1: relationship matted in twenty one when the student told her

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk to her anymore. Student eventually

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Speaker 1: revealed to his mom that he had a relationship with her,

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Speaker 1: A married woman with two children of her own, mom

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Speaker 1: urged her son to file the report. Told police that

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Speaker 1: he felt he could not say no to her because

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Speaker 1: she was the direct teacher. Also said he's enrolled in

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Speaker 1: professional therapy as a consequence of that relationship. She posted

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Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars bond. If she turned herself in,

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Speaker 1: she'll be in front of a judge on the sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: Es.

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Speaker 1: The biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies.

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Speaker 1: There's no bigger douche than you.

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Speaker 6: You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douche. Them good

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Speaker 6: going due.

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Speaker 1: Your dreams have come true. Fifty five I played to

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Speaker 1: talk about between now and six thirty when we get

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Speaker 1: tech fighty with Dave hat or local card skimming case.

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Speaker 1: Users say, in no way on Windows eleven upgrade and

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Speaker 1: Google apparently sharing your text messages with your employer. We'll

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Speaker 1: hear about that from day at bottom of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around and.

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Speaker 7: Be right back today.

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Speaker 6: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: Headlines six or six or fifty five KRC detalk station

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Speaker 1: by Thomas wishing your own a very happy Friday. Be

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Speaker 1: careful out there on the roads, A little slick. Lots

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Speaker 1: of school and business closings this morning, depending on which

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Speaker 1: list you have. It's a short list, it's the wrong list.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit longer than it should be. And

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Speaker 1: not a criticism of Zimmer Heating and air Conditioning for

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Speaker 1: sponsoring the fifty five k see school and business closings

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Speaker 1: on the site, but the link which we're obligated to

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Speaker 1: use contractually, so I believe yes, and quite accurate. It

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Speaker 1: hasn't been outdated enough, so your conclusions from that. But

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Speaker 1: I was checking out Fox nineteen which apparently has a

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Speaker 1: more accurate list. And yeah, there's a lot of school

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Speaker 1: in business closing, but you probably know that already because

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Speaker 1: of modern technology. You'll get a text message anyway. Bottom line,

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Speaker 1: be careful on the roads, and we got more snow

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Speaker 1: to deal with over the weekend. Five three seven nine,

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Speaker 1: Fred two three talk real quick, Jeff want we'll let

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Speaker 1: people know. Come up to the bottom of the hour

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Speaker 1: Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We have men accused in

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Speaker 1: a local card skimmer case. We'll talk about users saying

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Speaker 1: no to Windows eleven upgrade and apparently Google sharing your

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Speaker 1: text messages with your employer. Brad Winstrip and Studio for

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Speaker 1: a full hour Private Citizen former Congressman Weinstrip seven oh five,

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Speaker 1: and then Beverly Park Williams with her book Parallel and Separate.

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Speaker 1: Local author has got a really interesting book. So that

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Speaker 1: is on the lineup this morning. Over to the phones

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Speaker 1: we go, Jeff, thanks for holding. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 4: Happy Friday.

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Speaker 5: Right back at you, Hey, we think her about a

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Speaker 5: startup company to compete with anti diarrhea pharmaceuticals. Perhaps we'll

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Speaker 5: call it bowel laxatives matter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you go ahead and run with that. Iris Rowling's

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Speaker 1: husband has a company called Black Lives Golfing, So joining

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Speaker 1: the fun.

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Speaker 5: That's that's why I just said the chime.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, make sure it's a five on' one C three,

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Speaker 1: so you two can be an NGO, pay yourself six

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Speaker 1: figure salary and a very handsome one, and then pretend

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Speaker 1: to get work done on behalf of the community.

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Speaker 3: I'm shooting on.

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Speaker 4: I'm shooting for a billions.

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Speaker 1: There you go, aim high, Jeff, aim high. Appreciate the

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Speaker 1: call and the levity on a Friday. Anyhow, Immigration, I

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Speaker 1: have quite a few stories here. Let us begin with

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Speaker 1: you want to? You want to? You want to? This

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Speaker 1: is almost impossible to fathom, all right. You got under

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Speaker 1: Biden administration, we had between ten and twenty million illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrants flowing into the country. Right, you can't deny that.

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Speaker 1: It's a fact somewhere in that range. And it's been

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Speaker 1: widely reported and documented that that mass influx and mass

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Speaker 1: of migration caused the price of homes to go up,

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Speaker 1: most notably housing for the lowest income Americans. Now which

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Speaker 1: party plan purports to be the champion of the little guy,

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Speaker 1: helping out those in need, creating government programs to help

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Speaker 1: those on life's margins. You know, it's Democrats. They champion it.

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Speaker 1: They will not can't labor that point enough anyway. The

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Speaker 1: same party that brought you Joe Biden and open borders

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Speaker 1: and a ten to twenty million individuals flowing across our

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Speaker 1: various borders and then of course needed to be housed.

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Speaker 1: So there's a HUT investigation mass migration. Obviously as easy

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Speaker 1: to conclude it had an impact on housing prices for

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Speaker 1: the lowest income Americans. Department of Housing and Urban Development study.

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Speaker 1: They do this annually. It's not just some Trump you

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Speaker 1: know report that was issue. They do it every year.

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Speaker 1: They look at quote, worst case housing needs defined as

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Speaker 1: Americans who are low income but do not receive government

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Speaker 1: assistance or welfare, and who pay more than one half

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Speaker 1: of their income towards housing costs. And they reported and

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Speaker 1: concluded a key cause of elevated housing cost prices apartments,

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Speaker 1: notably foreign born population in the United States in Department

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Speaker 1: of Health and Housing and number of Development's eyes increased

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Speaker 1: by more than six million. I think that number is

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Speaker 1: a bit shy of the actual number that came in.

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Speaker 1: They say it contributed to a significant increase in housing demand,

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Speaker 1: driving up housing prices, supply and demand. You cannot get

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Speaker 1: around the reality, so that I think is an indisputable fact.

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Speaker 1: We do have many call it a housing crisis. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a Minnesota Lieutenant Peggy flann Flannagan, you know Tim Waltz's

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Speaker 1: lieutenant governor, right, the same Tim w that allowed massive

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Speaker 1: fraud to take place in the Somali run nonprofits siphoning

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Speaker 1: off literally hundreds of millions of dollars from child attrition,

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Speaker 1: medicaid housing programs. That scandal is really they just got

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Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg on that one. Anyway. Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: Peggy Flannagan slamming Donald Trump telling CNN that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: wants to distract the public from cost of living increases.

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Speaker 1: I says, raiding restaurants, lurking outside of schools, detaining US citizens.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's this evil human being. He chose the Lake

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Speaker 1: and Riley Act as the first bill of his administration

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Speaker 1: for one reason. He wanted to legitimize his mass deportation agenda.

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Speaker 1: She's saying he should be talking about inflation. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what. One way of dealing with inflation is to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the dangerous criminal element among the illegal population,

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Speaker 1: or at least give the illegal immigrants an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: fly back home from whence they came because they violated

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Speaker 1: the law, came into country without permission. Welcome to two

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Speaker 1: point five million illegal aliens leaving the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: which should have a profound impact on the price of housing.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's working on inflation. One of the ways you

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Speaker 1: work on inflation is get rid of these bad guys,

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Speaker 1: and there are a lot of them. DHS Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Christi nom announced this week ICE agents had successfully deported

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Speaker 1: more than six hundred and five thousand illegal aliens, the

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Speaker 1: majority of which are illegal aliens with pending criminal charges

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Speaker 1: or criminal convictions. Do you want those people in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: That's racist? No, it's not. I don't care what race

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Speaker 1: the person is. First, they're in the country illegally, they

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Speaker 1: came in without permission. Second, they committed crimes, period, end

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Speaker 1: of story. Don't care what color skin they are, what

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Speaker 1: religion they worship, or maybe they're agnostic or atheists. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. It doesn't matter a whit. They're criminals, they're dangerous,

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Speaker 1: they represent a threat to the American citizen, and we

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Speaker 1: have every right to kick them out of the country,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what's going on. That's six hundred and

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Speaker 1: five thousand of them that have been rounded up and

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Speaker 1: kicked out. Now, aside from that, almost two million illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens have now self deported, so gradually, slowly but surely,

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Speaker 1: but in the first eleven months of the Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: we can celebrate the fact that there are no longer

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Speaker 1: in this country two point five million illegal aliens, not

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Speaker 1: only causing the house because of the housing inflation, but

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Speaker 1: also taxing the welfare state, which is already on unbelievably

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Speaker 1: almost unsalvageable shaky grounds. So if you're one of those poor,

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Speaker 1: downtrodden Americans who are are hooked to the umbilical court

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Speaker 1: of the government for public assistance, you should celebrate this

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Speaker 1: victory because a lot of the illegal immigrant populations are

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Speaker 1: work are getting the same benefits that you are, except

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Speaker 1: they're not entitled to them, at least from my perspective. Legally,

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Speaker 1: I think they're allowed to get it, but that is

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Speaker 1: one of the problems that goes along with allowing an unchecked, unregulated,

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Speaker 1: massive humanity to come into our country. It puts so

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Speaker 1: much stress on the social welfare safety net. Schools are overwhelmed,

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Speaker 1: housing shortages developed. And then there's a criminal element that

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Speaker 1: goes along with this. Department Human Services Tricia McLaughlin, or

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Speaker 1: rather Homeland Security rather, I'm sorry. So the trum administration

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Speaker 1: is shattering historic records and more than two point five

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Speaker 1: million illegal aliens leaving the United States. DHS has deported

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Speaker 1: more than six hundred and five thousand, and another one

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Speaker 1: point nine have self deported. Hey, I guess the policies

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Speaker 1: of work which they call a boon to the housing market.

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Speaker 1: Pivoting over, Director National counter Terrorism Center announced yesterday the

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Speaker 1: government has identified eighteen thousand known or suspected terrorists who

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Speaker 1: got into the US under the Biden administration. Those are

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Speaker 1: the ones that he acknowledged that his agency has been

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Speaker 1: able to identify so far, and pointed out because a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of folks snuck in have not been identified.

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Speaker 1: No biometric data, no vetting, no nothing. They snuck around

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Speaker 1: the border guards, there were no encounters. How many of

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Speaker 1: those are there? You don't know. I don't know, and

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Speaker 1: apparently he doesn't either, But you can count eighteen thousand

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Speaker 1: of ones they've actually identified, those who our government has

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Speaker 1: linked either directly to terrorist activities or deemed associates of

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Speaker 1: those who are terrorists. He said they would have been

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Speaker 1: blocked under normal immigration procedures, yet, in his words, the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration not only let them into the country, in

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Speaker 1: many cases facilitated their entry. One case, he pointed his

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Speaker 1: specifically Rama La La Whatever La Khanwall, that Afghan migrant

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Speaker 1: charging the shooting attack near the White House last month

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Speaker 1: that killed a National Guard soldier and critically wounded another

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Speaker 1: admitted to the United States as part is Biden. Biden's

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Speaker 1: airlift of Afghan's in twenty twenty one, after years of

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Speaker 1: assisting the United States war effort. He worked with the

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Speaker 1: to assist the United States, but did not undergo vetting

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Speaker 1: that should have been conducted before he got here. Just

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Speaker 1: one illustration of what we're talking about here, he said,

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration essentially used his tactical level vetting, which

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Speaker 1: is a much lower standard from what I've read in

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Speaker 1: the wartime situation. In Afghanistan. Now you're vetting is less

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Speaker 1: of an issue. You're in Afghanistan. The guy's not going

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Speaker 1: to get in the United States very soon. Oh that's right.

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Speaker 1: When we pull out, we have an obligation to those

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Speaker 1: who helped us. Maybe you want to ramp up vetting

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Speaker 1: before you bring him into our country, knowing that, well,

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Speaker 1: apparently this guy, had vetting been done, would have been

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Speaker 1: identified as someone who's likely to shoot our military person. Now,

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Speaker 1: he said, two thousand of eighteen thousand knowns or suspected

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Speaker 1: terrorists and his agency has identified arrived as part of

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Speaker 1: the Afghan airlift operations. Wonderful. So obviously a huge problem,

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Speaker 1: and they're expecting more terrorist activity. We're coming up on

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Speaker 1: a two hundred fiftieth anniversary next year.

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Speaker 7: Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Elections coming up next year.

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Speaker 7: Mmm.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna call that a big victory. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: worry about inflation, Lieutenant Governor Flanagan, Right, we should six

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Speaker 1: seventeen right now, let's see, Brian, you're on the phone.

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Speaker 1: I get your call right out of the gate. I

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Speaker 1: just looked up and saw you there. I apologize, but

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Speaker 1: I'm overtime in the segment Chimney Care fireplaces to have.

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Speaker 1: Got to see the talk station six fifty five KCD

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Speaker 1: talk station Happy Friday, speaking of the social weftware safety net,

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Speaker 1: David Brian, just one second, conclude my point on that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have this inflation reality brought to you

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Speaker 1: by the vast influx of illegal immigrants. Looking at the

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Speaker 1: smaller community of Minnesota, they did a numbers crunch Center

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Speaker 1: for Immigration Studies looking at Census Bureau American Community Service,

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Speaker 1: or rather the Census Bureaus American Community Service survey shows

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Speaker 1: eighty one percent of Minnesota households headed by Somali refugees

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Speaker 1: are in one or more forms of welfare twenty seven

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Speaker 1: percent or on a cash welfarecept, fifty four percent on foodstams,

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Speaker 1: seventy three percent on Medicaid. Okay, fine, That doesn't suggest

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Speaker 1: that all these smaly households are illegal, but the smally

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Speaker 1: population generally, there's your breakdown. Now, compare that to native

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Speaker 1: born Minnesota's twenty one percent on one or more form

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Speaker 1: of welfare, only six percent on cash welfare, seven percent

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Speaker 1: or on foodstams, eighteen percent on medicaid. Huh, what's wrong

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Speaker 1: with that? Picture? Like everything? Just one illustration of a

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Speaker 1: broader problem that's going on throughout the United States of America. Brian,

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Speaker 1: thank you for indulging me on that. Thanks for calling

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday, well, happy Friday in good morning. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 3: address the beef prices. It somehow are Trump's fault, even

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Speaker 3: though our herds at the lowest in the last what

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Speaker 3: seventy years? Yeah, and screw worm in Mexico's keeping them

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Speaker 3: from important from Mexico, which they've been doing for years,

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Speaker 3: which was affecting our herd. But so you take ten

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Speaker 3: million immigrants illegal whatever you want to call them, that

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Speaker 3: eat one pound a ground of beef a week. That's

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Speaker 3: ten million a week or five hundred and twenty million

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Speaker 3: pounds a year. Gee. That that doesn't affect that price

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Speaker 3: or supply of beef now does it?

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Speaker 1: Of course? But you know what, Brian, the good thing

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Speaker 1: that's coming about is, yeah, you got to pay seven

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Speaker 1: dollars for a pound of beef and that's through the roof.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, there's fewer cows. As you properly

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Speaker 1: point out, the herd levels are the lowest they've been

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Speaker 1: since the nineteen fifties or something like that. It's less

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Speaker 1: methane Brian, cows, you know, have flatulence and methane is

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Speaker 1: a greenhouse gas, and you know we got to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the cows.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you raise this calsa South America, the Flatlentstle

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Speaker 3: effect atmosphere only one. It's in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Fried. Excellent point. Just like the

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Speaker 1: Chinese carbon dioxide output doesn't impact the global temperatures, only

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Speaker 1: Western country's output. God bless you, Brian in six twenty five.

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Speaker 1: for my listeners and their companies. Welcome back for another

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Speaker 1: important discussion. It's time for tech Friday. Good here, Happy

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Speaker 1: Friday Day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Happy Friday to you, Brian and Joe and all

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Speaker 7: your listeners. Happy to be here, glad you are.

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Speaker 1: And this skimmer thing we've got, I know you relied

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Speaker 1: on a local story about a convenience store card reader,

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Speaker 1: a skimmer thing. We can talk about that, but this

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Speaker 1: also goes along with the idea that they can capture

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Speaker 1: your card information by you know, digitally or through the waves, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean electronically. They don't even need to touch you

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Speaker 1: or touch your card.

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Speaker 7: That is correct, Brian. I mean it depends on the

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Speaker 7: type of cards you have and the type of device

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Speaker 7: they have. But what you're describing really is just another

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Speaker 7: form of skimming. You know, when you look at this,

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Speaker 7: you hear different terms skimming, shimming, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 7: But basically, you know, most credit cards still have a

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Speaker 7: max right, some have the chip. You know, you can

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Speaker 7: use the near field communication to pay, the tap to pay,

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Speaker 7: you can wipe your card. There's all these different ways

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Speaker 7: that you know, you can get the information off a

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Speaker 7: credit card. Or debit card. Now this particular thing again,

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Speaker 7: We've talked about this before and it's showing up here

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Speaker 7: once again in the Tri State area, people using skimmers,

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Speaker 7: which are basically devices. Depending on the device, sometimes it's

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Speaker 7: called a shimmer if it goes inside. But essentially you

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Speaker 7: either put a device over the aperture of the credit

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Speaker 7: card reader or inside the credit card reader. Could be

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Speaker 7: a gas pump, could be an ATM, could be a

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Speaker 7: point of sales system sitting on a counter somewhere. But

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Speaker 7: you know, once you put the card into it, it

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Speaker 7: attempts to read the mag strip, It attempts to read

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Speaker 7: the chip again, whatever it's designed to do or tap

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Speaker 7: to pay, it can potentially, you know, I could walk

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Speaker 7: up to you with the right device on my pocket,

909
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Speaker 7: bump into you and try to read the cards in

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Speaker 7: your wallet. So there's a variety of different ways this works.

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Speaker 7: We're just now seeing another real world example where someone.

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Speaker 1: Did it well the old school way. The original way

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Speaker 1: was to put something over the top of the original

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Speaker 1: card reader, correct, I mean inside. Quite often you could

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Speaker 1: tell that that had happened. You could grab a hold

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Speaker 1: of it and jiggle it. It might pop off and

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Speaker 1: then it'll be revealed and be in your hand. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I at least there was an opportunity for people to

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Speaker 1: try or look for something like that. How do they

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Speaker 1: install these card skimming devices inside that device?

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Speaker 7: Well, imagine just a small board, right, a small circuit board,

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Speaker 7: and you just drop it in the slot. I mean,

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Speaker 7: that's how small these things have gotten. Now. You know,

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Speaker 7: sometimes there's a second angle to this, because everything you

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Speaker 7: said is right about the older stuff. In many cases

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Speaker 7: it would literally fit over right aperture for the credit card,

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Speaker 7: so you're sticking your card through their device. Sometimes I

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Speaker 7: might have a different color, it might be loose whatever

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Speaker 7: with this With these newer, smaller technologies, again, it could

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Speaker 7: be something if it's completely inside the slot, so you

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Speaker 7: wouldn't really see it. You wouldn't know what to look

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Speaker 7: for even if you looked inside. Right, Well, it looks

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Speaker 7: like a circuit board. This thing's electronic, it's probably okay.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that's part of the issue with this, Brian,

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Speaker 7: as if they get more smaller and more sophisticated, they

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Speaker 7: get more difficult to detect. And in the old days too,

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Speaker 7: and many cases you'd have to come retrieve the thing.

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Speaker 7: Is the criminal to get the data out of it.

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Speaker 7: But now some of these things can support wireless protocols

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Speaker 7: like Bluetooth or Wi Fi or something like that. So

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Speaker 7: once I've deployed it, I don't necessarily need to ever

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Speaker 7: touch it again. As a criminal, I could just pull

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Speaker 7: into it a lot and get the data off of it.

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Speaker 7: So they've gotten trickier. You know, a couple other things

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Speaker 7: you should look for, and again this depends on the

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Speaker 7: type of skimmer they're using. Would be okay, if I

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Speaker 7: have a debit card, I got it. The criminal's got

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Speaker 7: to get my pin. So sometimes they'll also deploy a

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Speaker 7: tiny camera or possibly an overlay over the keypad. So

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Speaker 7: if you wheel up on one of these devices and

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Speaker 7: it looks like it's been tampered with in any way,

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Speaker 7: including like the keypad looks funny. It looks like there's

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Speaker 7: something laid over the keypad where if you could potentially

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Speaker 7: see a camera. Now I get this is a lot

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Speaker 7: to look for. You know, these guys want to place

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Speaker 7: a camera so they can see you type in your pin,

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Speaker 7: or they want to put an overlay over the keypad

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Speaker 7: so they can capture that pin. It gets tricky, and

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Speaker 7: you know, as they have to apply these other devices,

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Speaker 7: there's more likelihood to get caught. It sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 7: these guys got caught pretty quickly, but it's certainly something

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Speaker 7: to be on the lookout for. You know, A general

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Speaker 7: recommendation I would make to people is to try to

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Speaker 7: always use a device where it's in eyesight of another

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Speaker 7: human being. You know, pick the pump that's closest to

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Speaker 7: the cashiers. Pick the pump where you know there are

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Speaker 7: security cameras. Again, it doesn't have to be a gas pump,

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Speaker 7: though it could be an ATM. It could, it could.

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Speaker 7: Even in this case, it sounds like they weren't tramping

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Speaker 7: with the gas pumps. They were actually tampering with the

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Speaker 7: credit card readers inside the building. So it's a tricky

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Speaker 7: problem to solve, but if you know it's a thing,

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Speaker 7: at least you can be more cautious and potentially use

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Speaker 7: a credit card to avail yourself of the consumer protections

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Speaker 7: with credit cards versus debit cards.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I was anticipating asking you about that. A

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Speaker 1: reminding listeners uniform commercial code protects you you're only liable

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Speaker 1: for fifty bucks if someone abuses your credit card, not

979
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Speaker 1: the case when you're using your pin and having the

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Speaker 1: money taken directly out of your bank account. That's danger

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Speaker 1: zone right there. That is a really, really bad idea.

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Speaker 1: And I guess these card readers, you said, someone needs

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Speaker 1: to maybe have a video camera to see your pin

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Speaker 1: or something. Can't they, you know, like record what numbers

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Speaker 1: you're typing in when you're putting your pin in with

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Speaker 1: these device readers.

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Speaker 7: Probably not with it, and I can't say for sure,

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Speaker 7: but with the reader itself, you know, typically it's just

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Speaker 7: electronic Okay, an electronic device is trying to read the magstright.

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Speaker 7: You know, the keypad is separate, but in many cases

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Speaker 7: they'll put like a little overlay over it so it looks,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's another keypad sitting over top of the

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Speaker 7: real keypads, So when you punch your number in, they're

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Speaker 7: capturing it from that, or they're placing a camera somewhere

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Speaker 7: where they can see the keypad so they can capture

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Speaker 7: that pin.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. And of course we can't end the segment without saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, with regard to the reading of your card,

999
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: just by being near you Faraday wallet, right, Yes.

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Speaker 7: That's always a good thing. They saw the d blocking wallets.

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00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just type in Amazon. You just got I know

1002
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Speaker 1: you people hate Amazon or love it either way. Just

1003
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Speaker 1: type in RFID wallet or something and maybe even I'm

1004
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Speaker 1: presuming they make purses along the same way Faraday purses

1005
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Speaker 1: and you there you go. You'll be protected at least

1006
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Speaker 1: from that type of shenanigans. We'll bring day back. We'll

1007
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: talk about users apparently not liking or saying no to

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Speaker 1: the Windows eleven upgrade six thirty six right now, fifty

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Speaker 1: five krsit talk talk station. It's six forty fifty five

1010
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Speaker 1: krsit the talk station doing that Tech Friday with Dave

1011
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Speaker 1: Hatter brought to you again by intrust it online at

1012
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Speaker 1: interest dot com. I haven't been I haven't used Windows

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Speaker 1: and I can't remember how long. It's been more than

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00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: a decade. I went Apple and for a different couple

1015
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Speaker 1: of reasons. But so I'm no longer hipped to the

1016
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: whole Windows upgrade thing. But why are users saying no

1017
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: to the Windows eleven upgrade?

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 7: Dave Hatter, Well, Rian, I think it's a combination of

1019
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Speaker 7: the you know, first off, people get comfortable with the

1020
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Speaker 7: way a particular operating system works and don't want to change.

1021
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Speaker 7: I think people also don't really understand the risk of

1022
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Speaker 7: having end of life systems, you know, whether it's Windows, Linux,

1023
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Speaker 7: mac Apple, iOS, Android, whatever, or a particular piece of

1024
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Speaker 7: software like Chrome. For what it's worth, if you still

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Speaker 7: use Google Chrome, I suggest you drop that, by the way,

1026
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Speaker 7: and switch to a privacy friendly browser like a Brave, Firefox,

1027
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Speaker 7: Tour or Safari. But if you still use Chrome, critical

1028
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Speaker 7: updates came out the other day. My point being when

1029
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Speaker 7: you have end of life software or software that needs

1030
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Speaker 7: to be updated, end of life means the manufacturer is

1031
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Speaker 7: no longer putting out any updates, right, So it doesn't

1032
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Speaker 7: really matter what the platform of software is. Once you

1033
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Speaker 7: hit that point, then you are, over time increasing your

1034
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: risk of some sort of attack against that vulnerability because

1035
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Speaker 7: the bad guys will find them and the manufacturer's not

1036
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Speaker 7: fixing them. Windows ten went end of life in October.

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Speaker 7: So whether it's people don't want to switch because they're

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Speaker 7: familiar with Windows ten, they don't want to spit the money.

1039
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Speaker 7: In some cases to upgrade from Windows ten to Windows

1040
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Speaker 7: eleven you need to get a new computer because the

1041
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Speaker 7: older hardware will not support Windows eleven, or it's they

1042
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Speaker 7: don't understand the risk. I think those are probably the

1043
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Speaker 7: four main reasons. Apparently from some recent reporting and some

1044
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Speaker 7: information that came from Dell, obviously one of the large

1045
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Speaker 7: PC manufacturers out there for the Windows operating system, there

1046
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Speaker 7: are a huge number of people who so far, despite

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Speaker 7: Windows ten going into life in October, have not made

1048
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Speaker 7: the leap to Windows eleven yet. And again as time

1049
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Speaker 7: goes on, that's a bigger and bigger problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I get all the points you're making,

1051
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Speaker 1: but insofar as ten versus eleven, to your initial point,

1052
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Speaker 1: people don't like the change or the look or whatever,

1053
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Speaker 1: are they that dramatically different?

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Speaker 7: In my opinion, No, Brian, But you know again, people

1055
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 7: get used to something and then stuff gets moved around.

1056
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Speaker 7: They don't like the way it looks, and you know

1057
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Speaker 7: it in my opinion, Now you know me, mister tinfloy

1058
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 7: hat guy. Here, I'm going to tell you that the

1059
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Speaker 7: security risks to you, especially if you're not very technical

1060
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Speaker 7: and you're not doing other things to mitigate those risks,

1061
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 7: the security risks to you by not switching would well

1062
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Speaker 7: outweigh the inconvenience you're going to experience for the first

1063
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Speaker 7: several days while you get used to it. Now you know,

1064
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Speaker 7: people have other issues with Windows eleven. It's got a

1065
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Speaker 7: lot more let's say it's less privacy friendly than older versions. Again,

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Speaker 7: all of these big tech companies have their issues, but

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Speaker 7: just from a simple security perspective, not having an operating system,

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Speaker 7: since that's the fundamental part that drives everything else you

1069
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Speaker 7: do on your device. And again this would be Apple, iOS, Android, Mac,

1070
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Speaker 7: whatever you're using. If you hit a point where you

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Speaker 7: can't get updates anymore over time, you are going to

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Speaker 7: substantially put yourself at risk because there are bad guys

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Speaker 7: always looking for flaws. These things millions of lines of

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Speaker 7: code in them. There are flaws that are yet to

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Speaker 7: be discovered. I mean, Microsoft patch Tuesday once a month

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Speaker 7: usually is fixing dozens of things, not all security related.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you look at the Apple patches for

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Speaker 7: iOS for your phone, usually dozens of things are fixed.

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Speaker 7: As time wears on and those don't get fixed, you're

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Speaker 7: putting yourself at risk. And now you may decide get

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Speaker 7: off Windows and go to Mac, use Linux, do something different,

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Speaker 7: but if you're still running Windows ten or worse, something

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Speaker 7: like Windows eight or Windows seven, you are at substantial risk.

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Speaker 7: With these older operating systems if you don't upgrade them.

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Speaker 7: I mean just reading this Forbes article that I sent

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Speaker 7: to Joe about this, right, the headline is security disaster,

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Speaker 7: five hundred million Microsoft users saying no to Windows eleven,

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Speaker 7: and then you know it goes on to say Microsoft's

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Speaker 7: looming security disaster is worse than feared. Those aren't my words,

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Speaker 7: this is from Forbes. The staggering billion Windows users are

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Speaker 7: at risk is the sheer scale of the task. You know,

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Speaker 7: goes on YadA, YadA, YadA, but they're just pointing out

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Speaker 7: that you really need to get off Windows ten and

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Speaker 7: anything older than that. Absolutely, you need to get something different.

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Speaker 1: Well, that five hundred million figure serves to prove the

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Speaker 1: point that you dis made. That's why the criminals are

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Speaker 1: out there looking for ways to exploit old, no longer

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Speaker 1: serviced operating systems. A lot of people have resisted so

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Speaker 1: much it makes them an easy target.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, Brian, And I want to point something

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Speaker 7: else out too. Now. Again, I'm not here to advocate

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Speaker 7: for any particular platform at this point, right, I'm mostly

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Speaker 7: Windows based. Most of our customers and Windows base, that's

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Speaker 7: how most business operates. But all of that said, there

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Speaker 7: are many choices at this point. Again, even something like chromos. Now,

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to use products from Google if I

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Speaker 7: can help it. But you got Linux, you got Mac.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of choices. But to your point, you know,

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Speaker 7: one of the reasons why Windows is more attack than

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Speaker 7: others is because it has the largest user base. Right,

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Speaker 7: If I'm a criminal and I want to steal your

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Speaker 7: money or your data or ideally both, do I want

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Speaker 7: to go after the smallest possible platform, where you know

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Speaker 7: I have less opportunities, or do I want to go

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Speaker 7: after the largest platform. So again, I'm not not saying

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Speaker 7: Windows doesn't have its issues. I'm just saying one of

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Speaker 7: the reasons why it's more attacked is because it is

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Speaker 7: a much larger user base. And as these systems become obsolete,

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Speaker 7: as you build up this technical debt, as you have

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Speaker 7: these systems that can't be patched, of course they're going

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Speaker 7: to go after those because it's easier for them than

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Speaker 7: the latest and greatest version of whatever operating system that's

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Speaker 7: got all the latest and greatest security stuff in it.

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Speaker 4: You're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. We'll pause now and we'll

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Speaker 1: continue an attack on Google coming up next, Dave's Favorite

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Speaker 1: Company six forty six. Right now for Cey Talks Station.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. He's in studio, Congressman Brad Well.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Citizen Brad winsor I still want to call

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Speaker 1: him a Congressman. Will be talk in a full hour

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Speaker 1: in the next segment with him. In the meantime, Tech

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Speaker 1: Friday's Dave hatters on yet another reason to hate Google.

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Speaker 1: It's a real grabbing headline. Google starts sharing all your

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Speaker 1: text messages with your employer. Well, there's a red flag, Dave.

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Speaker 7: What Well, Well, Brian, you know the sort of typical

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Speaker 7: of clickbait headlines. Now, you know forb Forbes generally puts

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Speaker 7: out pretty good information in this space. You know, I

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Speaker 7: read a lot, and particularly this author, Zach Dorfmann. He's

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Speaker 7: pretty good in this privacy and security space. I understand

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Speaker 7: what he's saying. It's not quite as dire as it

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Speaker 7: makes this sound. And really it boils down to how

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Speaker 7: text works. Right. If you and I are both sending

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Speaker 7: messages to each other over Apple phones, they're into end

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Speaker 7: encrypted because that's the way Apple text works. Okay, But

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Speaker 7: if you're on an Android phone and I'm on an

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Speaker 7: Apple phone. Well, they work differently, so the end to

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Speaker 7: end encryption potentially goes away. And since the original version

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Speaker 7: of text people can think back to their flip phones

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Speaker 7: and how limited that was. Different protocols have been built

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Speaker 7: to allow the exchange of more rich information, right, things

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Speaker 7: like pictures and files and that sort of thing. Right,

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Speaker 7: so that's come on over time. Well, again, how Apple

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Speaker 7: does it versus how Android does it is different. One

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Speaker 7: of the protocols to make that work without getting too

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Speaker 7: nerdy is something called RCS Rich Communication Services, which basically

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Speaker 7: allows you to do things like see when the other

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Speaker 7: person is typing again, stuff that Apple's had for a

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Speaker 7: long time. This works back and forth even if you're

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Speaker 7: not on an Apple phone, voice messages, file sharing, group chats,

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Speaker 7: all this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: So RCS in and of itself is a good thing

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Speaker 7: that allows you to be more compatible between different types

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Speaker 7: of texting systems. The problem, though, is is this article

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Speaker 7: points out, if you know, most people are understand that

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Speaker 7: email is sort of inherently insecure unless it's encrypted, and

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Speaker 7: then it's easy to monitor. Most people sort of think, Okay,

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Speaker 7: if I'm texting, my employer can't necessarily see that, and

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Speaker 7: what they point out here and again why I say

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Speaker 7: it's a little bit clickbaity is because if you have

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Speaker 7: an employer supplied phone, right, they can turn on a

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Speaker 7: feature in the management of the phone that would allow

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Speaker 7: them to archive your text messages. Right, so they you

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Speaker 7: and I both have Android phones. Let's say we're texting

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Speaker 7: each other. Well, if that phone is supplied by the

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Speaker 7: company and they choose to turn on this feature, they

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Speaker 7: can archive my text messages. They're not really private. Now,

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Speaker 7: I would argue, and I think you probably would to Brian.

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Speaker 7: If the employer supplies the phone, just like anything else

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Speaker 7: they supply, well, they have the right to monitor it.

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Speaker 7: They're going to do what they want with it. I

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Speaker 7: think that the thing that this guy is trying to

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Speaker 7: warn about with this article is many people think that,

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Speaker 7: you know, they hear into end encryption, they talk about

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Speaker 7: apps like What's Happened Signaling this sort of thing, and

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Speaker 7: they think their texts are secure. And if you have

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Speaker 7: an I would argue, if you have an employer supplied device,

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Speaker 7: the employer can put tools on that device and ultimately

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Speaker 7: read anything they want. So I think this is just

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Speaker 7: a it's a good warning for Folks, if you're on

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Speaker 7: Android and your phone is supplied by your employer, don't

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Speaker 7: assume that they can't access your text messages or you

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Speaker 7: might have some trouble on your hands depending on what

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Speaker 7: you're doing. But even better, Brian, I would just say this,

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Speaker 7: anything you do electronically can be can be accessed. Don't

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Speaker 7: assume anything you're doing in any electronic form is ultimately

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Speaker 7: private to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought you're going to have a go at Google,

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Speaker 1: like Tom calls everyone who says, don't vote Democrat, don't

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Speaker 1: use Google.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, if you're in a situation where that's

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Speaker 7: what your employer gives you, you may not have a choice.

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Speaker 7: So you know, you need to understand what could be

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Speaker 7: happening here. And you know this this is I'm reading

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Speaker 7: from this Forbes article. Google says this is a quote dependable,

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Speaker 7: Android supported solution for message archival, which is backwards compatible

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Speaker 7: with SMS and MMS message as well. Employees will see

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Speaker 7: a clear notification on their device when the archival feature

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Speaker 7: is active, So that's good news. You know, if you

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Speaker 7: have an employer's supply device and they turn this feature on,

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Speaker 7: it will tell you that. But I also get a

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Speaker 7: lot of people don't understand all this stuff, aren't paying attention. Again,

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Speaker 7: I think the real heads up is if you're an

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Speaker 7: Android phone user and your device is supplied by your employer,

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Speaker 7: understand that any text messaging you're doing on that device

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Speaker 7: may be accessible by your employer.

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Speaker 1: Right, So don't act accordingly exactly Now there's the underscoring

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Speaker 1: legitimately across the board, shenanigans and problems people might find

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Speaker 1: themselves in if they do text information in the world

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Speaker 1: that they don't want anybody else to read. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I find people are so dumb when it comes to

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Speaker 1: that they're leaving. They're leaving a trail of evidence for

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Speaker 1: anybody down the road. So don't engage in untoward activities

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Speaker 1: whatever those might be, and documented on text. How's that?

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Speaker 7: Yes? And again you know, if you're if you're worried

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Speaker 7: about this, get your own phone, use third party apps

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Speaker 7: like Signal, which I would recommend over What's happened because

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Speaker 7: that's from our friends at Meta. But also at the

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Speaker 7: bottom line is even if things are in and encrypted,

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Speaker 7: even if they're configured correctly, if you and I are

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Speaker 7: messaging each other to signal Brian and we're doing something illegal.

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Speaker 7: Once law enforcement has my device, if they can unlock

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Speaker 7: the device, well it unlocks the encryption, and that's the

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Speaker 7: content of my signal messages. So again, I think people's

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Speaker 7: watch TV and they hear about end encryption and all

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Speaker 7: this security and privacy. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: if I can unlock your device, will I unlock the

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Speaker 7: encryption that protects as messages? I have them all. So again,

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Speaker 7: understand what this all really means, Think about what privacy

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Speaker 7: is in today's world, and act accordingly. If you're doing

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Speaker 7: something illegal or something you don't want other people to know,

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Speaker 7: you can't assume that just because something is encrypted, that

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Speaker 7: it is protected, Because if I can unlock your encryption,

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Speaker 7: I have it all.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, interest it dot comments, we find David the crue. Dave,

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Speaker 1: thank you for you sponsoring this segment that is so

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Speaker 1: valuable and so informative and important. We'll do it again

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Speaker 1: next Friday. Have a great week between now and then,

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Speaker 1: and a wonderful weekend on top of it.

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Speaker 7: Always my pleasure, Brian, I look forward to chatting with

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Speaker 7: you next week.

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Speaker 1: Citizen Brad Weinstrop in studio where you're talking to him

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Speaker 1: for a full hour plenty of topics to talk about

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Speaker 1: with Brad.

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Speaker 7: Right back.

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Speaker 6: Today's top headlines coming up.

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Speaker 1: Seven oh six. Share if you have KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy Friday Extra Special Friday, at least from

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Speaker 1: my perspective, but I hope you share my perspective in studio,

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Speaker 1: Former Congressman brad Winstrip, Citizen Brad web Strip, you still

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Speaker 1: have your license practice medicine because I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about healthcare with you. Welcome back, Brad. It's always great

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Speaker 1: seeing you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, Yes, I do.

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Speaker 3: And I am.

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Speaker 1: I remind people it's doctor brad Winstrip, so.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know I'm still engaging here and there

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Speaker 9: academically and especially but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a consulting love.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Out in the world, I understand you have new employment,

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Speaker 1: new means of income, but it involves the medical profession

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Speaker 1: generally speaking.

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Speaker 9: A lot of it at national security and security.

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Speaker 1: Which we're going to get to as well, because we're

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Speaker 1: seeing venezuela and tankers. Now we're dropping bombs on venezuel

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Speaker 1: and drug dealers, and some really good success with Trump's

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Speaker 1: trade policies, our trade deficit has narrowed substantially. More exports

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Speaker 1: from our country fewer imports into our country. The tariffs,

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Speaker 1: in spite of all the you know, the whaling and

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Speaker 1: gnashing of teeth about tariff, apparently is now starting to

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Speaker 1: bear some fruit for our benefits. So putting that aside

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Speaker 1: for a moment, we'll get to that. Yes we will

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Speaker 1: if we have done as expected. And now, of course,

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Speaker 1: they had to vote on these various healthcare proposals, you know,

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Speaker 1: extending these subsidies under Obamacare or coming up with an

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Speaker 1: alternative solution. Both the Republicans and the Democrats senate versions

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Speaker 1: of these you know, efforts both got shot down. We

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Speaker 1: all expected that to happen. So we're back to square one.

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Speaker 1: I guess at this point we only bought until what

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Speaker 1: the eighteenth of December in terms of keeping the government

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Speaker 1: open under the continuing resolution that exists. I seem to

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Speaker 1: recall that being the case, they had to work out

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Speaker 1: trying to hammer out the balance of the appropriations bills

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Speaker 1: during this window of opportunity they're going to.

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Speaker 9: Try to yeah luck right, Yeah, well you know they

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Speaker 9: are moving. I will I will say that the people

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Speaker 9: on appropriations are working hard. I will tell you that,

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Speaker 9: but that's because it's under Republican control right now, But

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Speaker 9: that doesn't mean that it won't still end up in

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Speaker 9: some kind of end of your bill, an omnibus, well

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Speaker 9: an omnibus or another cr which we've gotten so used to.

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Speaker 9: I just don't know why we don't have a collection

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Speaker 9: of people on both sides of the aisle that feel

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Speaker 9: it's their obligation and duty to get this done one

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Speaker 9: way or another, even if you don't like everything that's

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Speaker 9: in it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the core job functions of being a

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Speaker 1: US House Representatives member work on the twelve appropriations bills.

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Speaker 1: What other jobs do you really have by way of

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had a list and do a

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Speaker 1: responsibility memo or something. Working on twelve appropriations bills and

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Speaker 1: getting them done on a calendar year basis is like

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, and.

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Speaker 9: I have seen it done. But sometimes it's just on

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Speaker 9: not all twelve, but a lot of them, and we'll

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Speaker 9: package those together. And right now I do see that

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Speaker 9: Republicans are working hard to do that, because when we

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Speaker 9: have the majority like that, especially in the House, we

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Speaker 9: get them done. Now you get over the Senate, and

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Speaker 9: that's another situation a lot of times, but that's the

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Speaker 9: way our government was made up and we have to

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Speaker 9: recognize that. But onto healthcare. Yeah, as you were talking about,

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Speaker 9: the situation is such like the Affordable Care Act is

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Speaker 9: not anything Republicans ever supported, right, they didn't support it

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Speaker 9: to begin with. And the idea of these subsidies, as

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Speaker 9: the Democrats promoted it during COVID was this is just

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Speaker 9: during COVID, this is temporary. They put the end date

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Speaker 9: on that under the guys that after COVID, we won't

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Speaker 9: really need it. But the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 9: they do need it to carry out their plan to

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Speaker 9: keep it going, and includes things like increasing health premiums

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Speaker 9: for the majority of the consumers to subsidize the minority

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Speaker 9: with expensive medical conditions, et cetera. That's somewhat the nature

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Speaker 9: of insurance anyway, I get that. But the way this

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Speaker 9: is set up, it's just increasing the cost. It's only

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Speaker 9: benefiting insurance companies for them to want to take on

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Speaker 9: the Affordable Care Act as it exists. But the Democrats

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Speaker 9: want these additional subsidies rather than recognizing that the Affordable

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Speaker 9: Care Act was a failure. It's not affordable. It isn't

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Speaker 9: it never was going to be the way it was

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Speaker 9: set up, And you could see that. Yet you know,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. Well, they'll just call it affordable.

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Speaker 1: Lord knows how it might have worked out. But the

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Speaker 1: rug was pulled out from under. And when the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court did its original analysis of the constitutionality of it

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Speaker 1: in the first place, right out of the gate eve,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that they found that attacks

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Speaker 1: wasn't attacks, and they ultimately upheld it, they shot down

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Speaker 1: the commerce clause argument. Democrats are trying to use the

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Speaker 1: commerce clause in the United States Constitution to say that

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Speaker 1: they could use it to force you to buy something. Now,

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Speaker 1: they can prevent you from doing something under the commerce

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Speaker 1: clause engaging in commercial activity and traveling across state lines,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but they can't make you, was the

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Speaker 1: pronouncement from the Supreme Court. And once we weren't mandated

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Speaker 1: to buy it and they couldn't force us to buy it,

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Speaker 1: the house of cards collapsed on itself.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, which is obviously what Republicans pursued too. Was the

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Speaker 9: individual mandate, Yeah, because then you know, you're purchasing something

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Speaker 9: basically at gunpoint or threat why with threat with threat

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Speaker 9: of going to jail basically, And you know, but but

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump his first action. Donald Trump during his first term,

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Speaker 9: he in many ways solved a lot of this by

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Speaker 9: getting the so called short term health insurance.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 9: Trump's clarification needs to be a permanent law where people

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Speaker 9: have options to buy outside of the Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 9: and have them available and so you can buy something

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Speaker 9: that allows you to say, get catastrophic insurance or meet

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Speaker 9: your needs and nuns don't have to buy insurance for contraception.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're outside of Obamacare and you're not obligated

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Speaker 1: to work with Obamacare, buy and Obamacare plan. You've got

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Speaker 1: two hundred plus medical insurance providers out in the world.

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Speaker 1: That's what I speak for Cover Sincy. He's an insurance

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Speaker 1: broger for medical insurance. There are hundreds of companies out there.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to You can buy just a catastrophic

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Speaker 1: policy period. That's it. You don't have to buy anything else.

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Speaker 1: You might be really in a gem if you have

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Speaker 1: some other problems. You're not going to have your your

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Speaker 1: day to day regular checkups covered. Your you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: emergency visits won't be covered, but you know, if you

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Speaker 1: get clobbered with a cancer diagnosis, whatever, you might have

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Speaker 1: coverage for something like that. But nobody can force you

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Speaker 1: to buy something. Nobody can force you to buy Obamacare. Ergo,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to buy this full plate of benefits

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Speaker 1: that Obamacare provides that costs so much damn money. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there is an open market out there, have a choice.

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Speaker 9: Yes, you know, the same people that are have for

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Speaker 9: decades been screaming about choice are often trying to give

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Speaker 9: people no choice on other matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that there's not enough education out

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Speaker 1: there about how the insurance market works makes people think

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Speaker 1: that I'm only stuck with either what my employer provides me,

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Speaker 1: which if you've got an employer covered policy, then you

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Speaker 1: know you're a leg up on a lot of Americans.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing, I guess for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: I mean itolets market a little bit. There's some downsides

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Speaker 1: for that, but whatever. But if you're not covered by

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Speaker 1: an employer policy, you're not stuck having to choose an

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Speaker 1: Obamacare plan. You know, you can go to a different

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Speaker 1: medical insurance provider and buy only what you need.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, isn't that an ad for an insurance company.

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Speaker 1: It's an ad for cover sensing, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: give it to them for free, just because that's what

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Speaker 1: they do. And there are other brokers out in the

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Speaker 1: world that may do the same thing as is my

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Speaker 1: friends that covered since you, but you know, they pay

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Speaker 1: to support the show, and I'm just explaining to you

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Speaker 1: what they do, which is a reflection of the fact

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Speaker 1: that there is a market out there that has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with Obamacare exactly.

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Speaker 9: And you can and you know, the federal courts agreed

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Speaker 9: the federal law allows for both to exist. Yeah, so

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Speaker 9: let's put that though, clarify it in law, and without

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Speaker 9: an agency trying to strike it down in the process

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Speaker 9: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are our own worst enemy when it comes

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Speaker 1: to this. I mean, and let's reveal the elephant in

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Speaker 1: the room that I mentioned many times before. First off,

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Speaker 1: because that mandate that you must engage in commercial activity

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Speaker 1: that you didn't want to do, forcing you to buy

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Speaker 1: the Obamacare shot down as unconstitutional. That blew up what

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Speaker 1: the ultimate goal here. The Democrats want to keep this alive.

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Speaker 1: It's on life support already. These supplements only make it

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Speaker 1: appealing as an option because the premiums disappear. It's magic,

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Speaker 1: it's free. No, the American taxpayer is covering and all

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Speaker 1: that money's going to the insurance companies. So it just

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Speaker 1: shattered their dream of what I call Medicaid for all,

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Speaker 1: which is what they wanted. They wanted every man, wanting

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Speaker 1: child in the United States to be insured under one

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Speaker 1: single thing. That would be Obamacare. And it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a boiled down form of Medicare i e. Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: less coverage, less service, and of course the one size

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Speaker 1: fits all get in line like a Soviet breadline. Reality

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Speaker 1: of medicine that would bring about.

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Speaker 9: Medicaid has at least success on health than any plan

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Speaker 9: because it's not readily accessible. Not everyone takes it. This

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Speaker 9: is what you would you would see it has the

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Speaker 9: highest mortality and morbidity, and you will see people argue

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Speaker 9: about medicaid and say, well, people are much healthier because

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Speaker 9: they have Medicaid. Well you're saying they're healthier because they

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Speaker 9: have medicaid compared to nothing, Right, it's not what we're

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Speaker 9: talking about. But we're not talking about having nothing available, talking.

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Speaker 1: About something that actually does what it's supposed to. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue with citizen Brad windsorrip doctor Brad winsterup in

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Speaker 1: a moment, got a part company here, just mentioned twenty

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Speaker 1: two three on round four two between Mason and eleven,

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Speaker 1: and he talks Station Brien. Tim's here with well, he

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Speaker 1: served his country. He probably continued to serve as country

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Speaker 1: serve in the American military. He's a doctor. He's Brad Winsor,

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Speaker 1: a former congressman and also someone who had his high

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Speaker 1: level security clearance. You're on the Security Council right, and.

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Speaker 9: I was on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

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Speaker 9: and now serving on the President's Intelligence Advisory Board. I

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Speaker 9: don't speak for either as I sit here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. I was really impressed. I saw this

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Speaker 1: article just yesterday. Israel is unveiled and has used and

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Speaker 1: successfully deployed in combat this thing they call iron Beam.

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Speaker 1: It's a super high power laser lock on targets and

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Speaker 1: just a fraction of a second, and considering lasers traveled

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Speaker 1: to speed of light, they can blow missiles out of

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Speaker 1: the sky with it. It's worked, and it costs between

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Speaker 1: a buck and two bucks in terms of energy usage

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Speaker 1: to operate it. This seems to me to be a

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Speaker 1: complete game changer, like drones were a game changer in warfare.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be making patriot missiles pretty soon,

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Speaker 1: because if you can use this successfully and deploy this successfully,

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Speaker 1: this technology is a absolute total game changer in war.

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Speaker 1: Drones can be shot out of the sky. And I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of wondering, and you may not have any

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Speaker 1: information about I'm not pressing you for that. If this stuff,

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Speaker 1: this technology as developed, can work on hypersonic missiles as well,

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Speaker 1: which pose the greatest threat. From my standpoint, you can

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Speaker 1: chime in on that if you choose to. But if

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Speaker 1: you can shoot hypersonic missiles out of the sky with

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Speaker 1: this man, this is this is revolutionary.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're always looking for point counterpoint, right, Yeah, no

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Speaker 9: matter what someone has, do we have it and can

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Speaker 9: we negate them? You know, that's a countermeasure, measures and countermeasures.

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Speaker 1: Develop this with the Israelis and they use one point

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars of our money to help develop this,

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Speaker 1: and they've shared this with us, according to the reporting.

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Speaker 9: According to the reporting. And look, the idea of iron

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Speaker 9: Dome was in this same vein. It's always like, what

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Speaker 9: can we do that may be better and cheaper, especially right,

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Speaker 9: and so you want to pursue these types of measures.

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Speaker 9: I've always had this in the back of my mind

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Speaker 9: and sometimes I would I would express it that is

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Speaker 9: there a better way than just a significantly kinetic force

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Speaker 9: against this, but have the same result, if not better result, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, So and cheaper, unlimited as long as you have electricity,

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Speaker 1: this will keep firing, you know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And you also want to look, you know what

1495
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 9: is the cost, right, how many dollars are going out

1496
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 9: compared to So they're spending dollars on a drone, but

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01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 9: it costs a whole lot more for us to shoot

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01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 9: it out of the sky with, like you said, patriot

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 9: missile or something like a million dollars a pop. Yeah,

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01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 9: so you can break the bank, which is what we

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 9: did during the Cold War, right, We bostally basically broke

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 9: the Soviet Union's bank because we had technologies and advancements

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 9: that they just could not keep up with.

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01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: Right, And so the Cold War basically.

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01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 9: Came to an end. So this would be a huge thing.

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01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 9: I don't think it developed overnight, so it was probably

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 9: the making for some time decades. But I give credit.

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01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 9: If it is there and it's capable. They did a

1509
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 9: good job of keeping it quiet because you certainly don't

1510
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 9: want the enemy starting to work on it as well.

1511
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: Well, And you can't deny that the enemy's working on

1512
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: as laser beams have been around forever, and they've been

1513
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: working on high powered lasers for a long time. The

1514
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: problem was the size, the portability, the speed of target acquisition.

1515
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: Guess what, we have modern computers that process data instantaneously now,

1516
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: so with gradually over time, you've shrunk the size of

1517
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: these You've made them more powerful, and you've allowed for

1518
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: locking into for targets in great accurate at least as

1519
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: demonstrated by the Israelis in this iron beam situation. And

1520
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: one can only imagine it's going to get better and better.

1521
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I guess pivoting over and I know we're gonna need

1522
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: aircraft for a long time. But if the iron beam

1523
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: can shoot a high speed weapon out of the sky,

1524
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: I imagine it could lock in on a oh, I

1525
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: don't know, jet plane going nine hundred miles an hour

1526
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: F forty five. We got a huge appropriation for the

1527
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: development of a new replacement for the F thirty five.

1528
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: These things come in at a billion dollars or whatever.

1529
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: A pop boom gone in a fraction of a second.

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, Unfortunately, we have adversaries that are always seeking nefarious

1531
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 9: ways to take us out, and our job is to

1532
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 9: continually try to counter that. And now you're talking. It's

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01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 9: interesting you bring that up because now you're talking about

1534
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 9: something that we control from land. It is the Israeli

1535
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:53,480
Speaker 9: army that has worked on the Iron Dome and manipulates

1536
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 9: the Iron Dome. And I've gone to Israel and seen

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01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 9: what they were able to do. But that's very expensive

1538
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 9: to shoot these things out the skies. But you may

1539
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 9: be seeing the videos, especially at night time, as these

1540
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 9: missiles are coming in. It looks like fireworks, it looks

1541
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 9: like orchestrated fireworks. It's like boom, boom, boom. They're just

1542
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 9: knocking them down out of the sky over their own land, right.

1543
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 9: So pretty effective tool where maybe two out of one

1544
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 9: hundred get through well, but there's cost to that, and

1545
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 9: if you can reduce that cost and have a more

1546
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 9: efficient system, that is a wonderful thing for us to

1547
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 9: be able to have. And the Israelis are constantly on guard.

1548
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: And they're a good partner to have, apparently a favorite

1549
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: of a lot of countries around the world. The eighth

1550
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 1: largest arms exporter in the world, the Israelis are country

1551
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 1: the size of New Jersey.

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01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 9: Well it's innovation nation there, that's what they call themselves,

1553
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 9: and you know they do that. They probably have fewer

1554
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 9: regulations on their innovations.

1555
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: I imagine, and it does help when you got one

1556
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars in the United States capital going

1557
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: into a program like this Iron Beam. But to the

1558
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: extent it works the way it's been described, I'd say

1559
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: well worth the investment. Seven twenty six. Right now more

1560
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: with brad Winstrup, Citizen brad Winsterrup. After I mentioned my

1561
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: friends at four seven thirty here pet about kercdcalk station.

1562
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: A very happy Friday to you, brad Winsterp, Citizen brad Winsterrip,

1563
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: doctor brad Winstrop, former Member of Congress, brad Winstrop and

1564
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: studio talking. And he still got a security clearance, so

1565
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: he's got all kinds of details that you and I

1566
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: aren't privy to. But he is informed and since he's

1567
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: been there and done that, he's a perfect person to

1568
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: comment on what's going on in the world. I love, honestly,

1569
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: one can like being correct. I kind of feel over

1570
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the years I might have gone out on a limb

1571
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: a little bit to make my opinions known about what

1572
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I believe in terms of this theory of global climate change.

1573
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: And I have always always pointed out, I think what

1574
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: is a demonstrable objective fact that carbon dioxide is not

1575
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: a pollute It is a naturally occurring thing. It's part

1576
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: of our atmosphere, and it's plant food. Plants thrive and

1577
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: live on our exhalation. Without it, plants would die. But

1578
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: they also give life giving oxygen in return for the

1579
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide that you and I give them. Will lo

1580
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: and behold we have every single day, it seems more

1581
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: and more information. Now we have this science journal Nate

1582
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: Journal Nature retracting what was described as a catastrophic climate

1583
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: change study. We're all gonna die a la al gore

1584
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: greta Thunberg, Oh my god. And it's like, well, wait

1585
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: a minute, we were wrong. After so many organizations and

1586
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: these these Green New Deal type leeches and NGOs out

1587
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: in the world sucking up our tax dollars relied on

1588
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: the study to make the argument that they were worthy

1589
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: of receiving our dollars. Well, guess what, pull the plug

1590
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: on that one because it wasn't true. But there's a

1591
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: lot of articles like that that have been retracted after

1592
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: already going out into the world. You know, we can

1593
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: go back to the hockey stick, and they've since retracted that,

1594
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: which seemed to be the genesis of this whole thing.

1595
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: So what's your take on this and the throat slitting

1596
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: that goes on. We were talking about war between Russia

1597
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: and Ukraine and the break there brad and mentioned Germany's economy.

1598
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: I said, well, they cut their own throat. You had

1599
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: comment about Russia might have been jealous because they had

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: such a thriving, booming economy in the European Union. Germany

1601
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: was the outlier, one of the biggest economies in the world.

1602
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Guess what, they can't keep the lights on anymore because

1603
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: they pursued these policies. There's something really nefarious behind the

1604
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: scenes on this, and I don't hear about it as

1605
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: much anymore.

1606
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 9: How about you, Well, they know you don't. But they

1607
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 9: also became dependent on Russian oil and things like that

1608
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 9: because they put themselves in this situation, and then we

1609
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 9: under the Biden administration, ate it and embedded that because

1610
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 9: we reduced our outputs so tremendously and the rest is

1611
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 9: basically history. But you know, you point to something there

1612
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 9: you mentioned, was it Nature magazine?

1613
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: One of the studies.

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 9: And you know, there are so many things I am

1615
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 9: finding out and have found out, especially during COVID because

1616
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 9: as I was chairing the Pandemic Committee, we did a

1617
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 9: hearing on scientific journals basically, and they were what they

1618
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 9: were putting out and what was their process. And you

1619
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 9: saw things being published that really weren't peer reviewed, that

1620
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 9: really weren't tried and tested. And there is a site

1621
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 9: you can go to that has retractions of scientific articles.

1622
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 9: And that's not just one or two here and there.

1623
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 9: I mean there are many. And of course so many

1624
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 9: people go on what ends up in a journal and

1625
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 9: in a magazine and take it as gospel. And so

1626
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 9: you can have situations where you know you're going to

1627
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 9: get published even though you know this isn't even that

1628
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 9: great of a scientific process that you used, and therefore

1629
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 9: it sticks because it meets your agenda, and then later

1630
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 9: it's re tracted. Well how much later, how much later

1631
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 9: when was that Nature article put out? I don't know,

1632
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 9: maybe it's in that.

1633
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: Piece that you're referring to, Brian, but this s four research,

1634
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: so pretty rests Damn Institute of Climate Impact Research, and

1635
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: lord knows from the name of the entity that did

1636
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: the initial study. You know the outcome of the study

1637
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: before you read the study itself. Oh, if they're the

1638
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: Institute for Climate Impact Research, weny guess they believe that

1639
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide is going to kill us.

1640
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 9: Yeah. And I can remember too having a hearing on

1641
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 9: Ways and Means, not when Republicans were running the committee,

1642
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 9: but as the effects of climate change on health, and

1643
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 9: so they were trying to say, you know, it's destroying

1644
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 9: our health. We're not healthy people because of all this

1645
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 9: terrible climate change. And and of course that is then

1646
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 9: addressing the evils of energy outside of solar panels and windmills.

1647
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 9: And I said, have you walked through a hospital and

1648
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,560
Speaker 9: seen how reliant it is on energy? And do you

1649
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,440
Speaker 9: know that when Puerto Rico, for example, had two hurricanes

1650
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 9: and storms, they had to run on generators to keep

1651
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 9: people alive. So are you you know how actually are

1652
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 9: you thinking about this? Energy saves lives.

1653
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Plastics generally speaking, what would the world be if you've

1654
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: got rid of fossil fuels completely and eradicated them A

1655
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: la Gretathonberg's wishes and desires? Hell that boat she floats

1656
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: around and wouldn't even exist because it's made up a

1657
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: bunch of plastics.

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01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 9: I was in Chicago years ago when they had a

1659
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 9: brown out. I mean it was so hot. I was

1660
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 9: up there for a Reds Cubs game, and it was

1661
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 9: so hot that there was a brown out across the city. Brian,

1662
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 9: do you know that five hundred people died in their

1663
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 9: homes and apartments from the heat.

1664
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we say annually more people die from heat than cold.

1665
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 9: And therefore they're dying from a lack of energy because

1666
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 9: they had air conditioners. But there was a brown out.

1667
01:30:58,520 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: Right, it didn't work.

1668
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, so you got to look at all sides of

1669
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 9: the issue, and not only that. As you said, what

1670
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 9: is wrong with photosynthesis?

1671
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: Nothing here? We learned about it in second grade or

1672
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: something like that. Didn't we the circle at the excellent.

1673
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 9: As it was a circle?

1674
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 3: Right?

1675
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, see how it worked.

1676
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Look what God created for us into those so called

1677
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: experts who say that this climate change is having a

1678
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: detrimental impact on our health. Over this whole period of industrialization,

1679
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: since we became industrialized and turned to the nineteen hundreds,

1680
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: right the industrial revolution we started using fossil fuels, has

1681
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: life expectancy increased or decreased? Well, rhetorical question.

1682
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 9: In many sectors though it's decreased, and that's because of overdoses. Unfortunately,

1683
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 9: that has nothing to do with climate change.

1684
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Overall. We live a hell of a lot longer than

1685
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: we used to, so we do. And look, I'm heart

1686
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: of carbon dioxide and.

1687
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 9: I'm for clean water, clean air, you know, especially as

1688
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 9: the doctor, my goodness, we all want that those are pollutant.

1689
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,879
Speaker 1: You're referring to. I don't want led in the water, mercury.

1690
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't what are you eating that stuff? But that

1691
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what they're trying to eradicate,

1692
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: which is again not a pollutant. We'll continue with Citizen

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01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: Frad Winster for a little out of time in this

1694
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: segment seven thirty seven right now, kersee talk station, Very

1695
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: happy Friday to you, former Congressman, Citizen Brad winsterrip, Doctor

1696
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Brad winstermin Studio. Just kind of going through all the

1697
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: issues that we can get in during this hour. And

1698
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you brought up but think a rather unusual topic, but

1699
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: what an amazing tragedy, what a horrific fire, the fire

1700
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. You brought that up over the break.

1701
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: You said you wanted to hit a point or two

1702
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: to raise about that.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, obviously extremely in a tragic situation. I mean,

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Speaker 9: it was a tremendous tragedy. If you've seen any of

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01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,480
Speaker 9: the pictures and you know that people were trapped inside.

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Speaker 1: That fire, horrific.

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Speaker 9: It really looks like the Twin Towers on nine to eleven. Yeah,

1708
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 9: and they may not have collapsed in the same way,

1709
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 9: but just just a horrific situation. But what's amazing. And

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01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 9: I was in Hong Kong before the actual ultimate takeover

1711
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 9: of Hong Kong July ninety seven. Well that's when it

1712
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 9: was authorized that the fifty year Plan, if you recall,

1713
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 9: but I was there before.

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01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: They came in of the Chinese.

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01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 9: The Chinese came in and said we're now taking this over.

1716
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 9: So they were still somewhat autonomous, but now they're not.

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Speaker 1: What was a source of massive revenue for the Chinese

1718
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Communist Party. They didn't want to touch it, but they

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01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: had to because it was inconsistent with their business vlosity.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the world is changing too. I mean

1721
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 9: you look at the world of finance. You know, you

1722
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 9: used to say New York, London, Tokyo, Hong Kong, right,

1723
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 9: Hong Kong. Yeah right, it was part of it. Now

1724
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 9: Hong Kong is just another Chinese city, and it's very

1725
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 9: clear when you see what happened here. They established the

1726
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 9: Office for Safeguarding National Security, which came out of the

1727
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 9: Hong Kong National Security Law, which was brought out in

1728
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 9: twenty twenty, which is just China saying we're we're in

1729
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 9: charge here, right, and in this result of this fire,

1730
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 9: you know, we're normally here, you're looking at who's responsible. Right,

1731
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 9: We're going to go in and say and there'll be

1732
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 9: all kinds of accusations or at least questions asked. But

1733
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 9: there they officials accused international media organizations of spreading false

1734
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 9: information and telling them literally on their website, they warned

1735
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 9: for foreign correspondence, exercise self discipline, take care of yourselves,

1736
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 9: and do not touch the legal red lines. In other words,

1737
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 9: be careful what you say about anything that may indicate

1738
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 9: that the government was not prepared for something like this

1739
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 9: and had had some things wrong. And the other thing

1740
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 9: that is, you.

1741
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Don't have free speech on the CCP exactly run the

1742
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 1: risk of getting arrested or maybe being disappeared, and I

1743
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: hate that word. If you don't do if you don't

1744
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: follow the line.

1745
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 9: They were determined to eliminate any independent voices on this

1746
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 9: that might question the official narrative. The other thing, Brian

1747
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 9: is like NGOs and local community groups, normally they would

1748
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 9: have coordinated for displaced residents and things like this, But

1749
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 9: this Hong Kong is different now, and they're under one

1750
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 9: one party rule obviously, and they treat any kind of

1751
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 9: independent aid efforts with suspicion. So, you know, people in

1752
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 9: this country need to know that when government has that

1753
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 9: type of control, it's not a good thing. You think, well,

1754
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 9: government can take.

1755
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: Care of it. Well, FATIMA has been criticized many times,

1756
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: but Joe Biden politicized FEMA denied resources to the red

1757
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: state fill in the blank. But everybody got all the

1758
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: money when they lived in Blue states. FEMA's abuse. Thank you.

1759
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: You've got organizations like Matthew twenty five ministries who independently

1760
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: can take contributions and provide one hundred percent of those

1761
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: contributions where it is needed. How about that? Yeah?

1762
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 9: I love Coexist. I love the work that they do.

1763
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 9: Go visit them and blew it. See what they do.

1764
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 9: It's a perfect example of what people can do on

1765
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 9: their own basically exactly they and they do it. But

1766
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 9: in this case in Hong Kong, I mean any residents

1767
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 9: who took to social media to condemn either lax enforcement

1768
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 9: or mismanagement or corruption involving the building inspections they found

1769
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 9: themselves facing legal warnings or police visits, some things like that.

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01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: Gee hold on, let's pause because we got to take

1771
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: a break. But that sounds remarkably like the European Union

1772
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: these days. Seven forty six will maybe get a word

1773
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: or two in from Brad winsterp on that after I

1774
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 1: mentioned Zimmer heating and air conditioning for and thank you

1775
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: for sponsoring the school. Seven fifty here if I do

1776
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Speaker 1: you have KCD talk station Happy Friday. One more segment

1777
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: with citizen Brad Winster tomorrow after the top of the

1778
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 1: owning is Beverly Park Williams. She's a local author. It

1779
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: has a really fascinating book about her mom and her

1780
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: mom's sister, Parallel and Separate, a tale of two sisters

1781
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: separated like really really young age. They didn't even know

1782
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: what each other existed, and grew up on opposite sides

1783
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: of the city of Cincinnati, and how their lives were

1784
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: impacted and the differences between the two should be fun, Brad,

1785
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: real quick.

1786
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 4: Here.

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01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: We've got a sort of a decaying relationship with our

1788
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: NATO allies. I know there be Trump's made some comments

1789
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: about them. They are EU pretty much full on socialists,

1790
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: so they didn't even share our ideology at least what

1791
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: these left of our capitalist ideology. But what they have

1792
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: been proving day in and day out, Like the United Kingdom,

1793
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 1: they prosecute people for what we would call free speech,

1794
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: what I would say innocuous statements. Someone feels threatened, they

1795
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: get prosecuted for it. There is no free speech. There

1796
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: a demonstrable difference between us and the freedoms we enjoy

1797
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: under our constitution and what I would call oppression, oppression

1798
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: by European governments against its own citizens.

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01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I've seen some of those stories, Brian, and it's just

1801
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 9: really amazing to me that this is actually taking place.

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01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I bring it up, you know.

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01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 9: Within our allies, even within our five Eyes partners, which

1804
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,799
Speaker 9: would be Australia and New Zealand, But in the Brits,

1805
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 9: I don't get it. I just don't understand it. You know,

1806
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 9: why people are so willing to accept this those that

1807
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 9: are in authority. I understand why they like it, Oh sure,

1808
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 9: because this is their This goes to their elitism.

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01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: If you will, only their answer is the correct one.

1810
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: You can't have an alternative, varying point of view. This

1811
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: happened to the Biden administration with agents in Facebook having

1812
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: offices established censoring what we were saying online. You know,

1813
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: we have a right to free speech in this country,

1814
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: and even negative offensive speech is protected.

1815
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 9: People need to really look at what are found put

1816
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 9: in place and why they put it in place. It

1817
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 9: makes complete sense. And look, we were no taxation without representation,

1818
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 9: that was the thing, but it was even beyond that,

1819
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 9: and now it's I think we've gone even further beyond

1820
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 9: that in some instances. But to see it over in

1821
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 9: Europe is really interesting. And I think that what you're

1822
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 9: seeing from the Trump administration too is a focus on

1823
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 9: our hemisphere as much as anything. If you look at

1824
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 9: where they are on defense posture, I think he's very

1825
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 9: concerned about what's taking place in our hemisphere, which goes

1826
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 9: back to Cuba having Russian missiles things like that. Right,

1827
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 9: But we still, I think, you know, we can't ignore

1828
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 9: the rest of the world, and the Trump has not

1829
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 9: been doing that either.

1830
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: I was pleased to see the least in so far

1831
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: as the seizure of the Venezuelan oil tanker. They got

1832
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: a warrant in court ahead of time, and they're going

1833
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: to go through the proper legal channels to confiscate the

1834
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,839
Speaker 1: oil and keep it. They're gonna have a legal process

1835
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 1: for that. And that's the only concern I have, And

1836
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I know anger a lot of listeners because I'm a

1837
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: constitutionalist and I believe in due process, and I'm worried

1838
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: and concerned about not only the legality of but the

1839
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: idea that a president might end up bringing us into

1840
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 1: a war by launching missiles and things. But at least

1841
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: in so far as the tanker is concerned, I understand

1842
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: it's sanctioned. It's an illegal tanker in the sense it

1843
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: was flying under a false flag. They got the approval

1844
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: for the warrant and the boarding of the ship, and

1845
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 1: they're going to go through that process. Now do you

1846
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: think it's an appropriate thing? Because this is going to

1847
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: regime change? This is the point of it. Oil is

1848
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: what funds the entire venezuel and govern at least ninety

1849
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,839
Speaker 1: percent of it. As I've read that one ship. Apparently

1850
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: five percent of these social outlays in a month with

1851
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: the money that we got from that ship, or at

1852
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 1: least the value of that ship. Are you in agreement

1853
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: that we should engage in what is an obvious effort

1854
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: to change the regime in Venezuela.

1855
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,919
Speaker 9: Well, there was an effort to change the regime in Venezuela.

1856
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 9: It was called an election, true, but what happened after

1857
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 9: the election It was stolen. It was stolen, it was

1858
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 9: completely taken away. So that's that's a good piece of

1859
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 9: the argument, because the people there made change by their vote.

1860
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: And there's people at the radio screaming right now, going

1861
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: our election was stolen back in time, right, Yeah, I'm

1862
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: sure there are.

1863
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 9: Beware, right, beware of this type of process taking place

1864
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,919
Speaker 9: anywhere anywhere where they're claiming to have free and fair elections.

1865
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: Going back to unilateral bombing, I always say, you know

1866
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: what if Canada decides that someone in our country is

1867
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: a terrorist and they drop a bomb on him and

1868
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: buy he's in a mall or whatever. If there were

1869
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: outside countries that believe the twenty twenty election was stolen

1870
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: or any other election, they're going to start engaging in

1871
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: regime change here huh, hey, hey, listen, what's good for

1872
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: the good for the gander as well, at least getting

1873
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: to the truth. Brian, always the concern, And you know

1874
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: I always said, you know, I'm sitting in Congress when

1875
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: all this is going on, like, I really don't have

1876
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: a way to prove any of this because it's up

1877
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: to the states that run the elections to police their

1878
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: own and in Congress, you know, what can you do?

1879
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: So it makes it very difficult, But I am always

1880
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: in favor of getting to the truth, no matter what

1881
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: the situation may be, good, bad, or indifferent the truth.

1882
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I went into the Russian collusion investigation. If

1883
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 1: Trump did something wrong, we need to know because what

1884
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: he didn't, they made it all up. See going back

1885
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: to it, well, we always point the finger at the

1886
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: evil doers in the Chinese Communist Party, or in North

1887
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Korea or in Iran, and we can look inwardly and

1888
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: see comparable, if not equally offensive conduct and behavior. So

1889
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 1: got to mind our own ship or store. We're gonna

1890
01:42:55,960 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: end up losing it. It's been great, senior man, Christmas

1891
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: to you and your family with the little kids in

1892
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: the house, I bet it's a real exciting time over

1893
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: your house.

1894
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 3: It is.

1895
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 9: It is fun. I feel blessed that I have these

1896
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 9: two kids. They're just a joy, and you know they're kids,

1897
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 9: don't get me wrong, but it's just a great thing.

1898
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 9: And then Christmas time is especially special.

1899
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I miss those times. I'm happy with what I got,

1900
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 1: trust me and living my best life, but I really

1901
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: miss the little kid company. Maybe someday I'll get a grandchild.

1902
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: Lauren Eric seven fifty seven, Brad, take care of my brother.

1903
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 1: It's great seeing you. Merry Christmas and we'll talk again

1904
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: coming up with the next year, I hope.

1905
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, we always have more. Matter of fact, we

1906
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 9: have more today.

1907
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: But we are just dreams of it. Stick around. We're

1908
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Beverly Park Williams with their new books.

1909
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: She's a local author, parallel and separate after.

1910
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 6: The news, Today's top headlines coming.

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: Of course, So if future here in the fifty five

1912
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Kersey Morning Show from time to time local authors, I

1913
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 1: think it's really cool. Do we have local authors. They

1914
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 1: prove that, yes, you can write a book, you can

1915
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: get a book published. And one of the women who's

1916
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: going to explain how that is done in her impetus

1917
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 1: behind writing and getting involved in writing. Beverly Park Williams,

1918
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: it's Beverly. It's a pleasure to have you on the

1919
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: program today.

1920
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 11: Thank you for this opportunity.

1921
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's my pleasure. I appreciate you forwarding a copy

1922
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: of the book. I will admit upfront, I'm not going

1923
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 1: to lie to you. I haven't had an opportunity to

1924
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: read it yet. I note that the book Parallel But

1925
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: and Separate. This is the name of your second book,

1926
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: Parallel and Separate, A Tale of Two Sisters. Does this

1927
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: book number two involve the same subject matter as your

1928
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: first book, Separate but Parallel?

1929
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 11: Yes, actually the story both stories are about two sisters,

1930
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 11: Janet and Shirley. The first book is really about Turley,

1931
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 11: who is my mother. After I've moved her into a

1932
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 11: nursing home in Anderson Township, I spent a lot of

1933
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 11: time with her, and she began to tell me many

1934
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 11: stories for life. And the stories became so numerous. I

1935
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 11: purchased a handheld recorder and after more than two years

1936
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 11: of recording, I transcribed almost three hundred pages of notes

1937
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 11: and that became the first book.

1938
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: Well, and that's I guess primarily one of the reasons

1939
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: I asked. This is not a short book. It's your

1940
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 1: your separate book we're talking about today, parallel and separate.

1941
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: It comes in at four hundred and fifty pages. This

1942
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: is I guess, the story of Shirley and jen At

1943
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: her sister. Shirley, you said already is your mom. They

1944
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: were separated very close to birth. I guess your Your

1945
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: mother was a newborn and your aunt was three years

1946
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 1: old when they separated. But they both lived in the

1947
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Greater Cincinnati area, yet had no idea of each other's existence.

1948
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:58,839
Speaker 1: As I understand, it is that accurate.

1949
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 11: Yes, their families, both the father for Janet and the

1950
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 11: mother for Shirley, kept it a secrets. So they were separated,

1951
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 11: not knowing about one another, to be reunited seventy years later,

1952
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 11: seven decades later.

1953
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: That is truly amazing. Now, they grew up differently. Not

1954
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 1: only were they separated, not only did they not know

1955
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,560
Speaker 1: each other, and they grew up on opposite sides of

1956
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: the town. They also were quite different in the socioeconomic upbringing,

1957
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: were they not?

1958
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 5: Yes, they were.

1959
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 11: Actually Janet was kept by her father and her father's

1960
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 11: parents and they lived a fairly middle class life on

1961
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 11: the West Side. When the grandfather separated the two sisters,

1962
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 11: he thought that my mother would go with their mother

1963
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 11: and live with their mother's relative. Fortunately, their mother had

1964
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 11: been adopted by an elderly couple in Hyde Park, and

1965
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 11: both the couple, the grandmother and the grandfather, were in

1966
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 11: nursing home, so Shirley and her mother were pretty much

1967
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,759
Speaker 11: left to fend for themselves. On the East Side, Shirley

1968
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 11: grew up in poverty.

1969
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh so, I guess I'm wildly curious. Since they were

1970
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 1: sisters obviously genetically linked, did they sort of I hate

1971
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: these words, turn out after seventy years of life. Were

1972
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,520
Speaker 1: they different people? Different political philosophies obviously, maybe different socioeconomy,

1973
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: because that depends on what they ended up doing for

1974
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: a living. But personality wise, was there a consistency or

1975
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: were they dramatically different people having lived these separate lives

1976
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: when they finally met each other.

1977
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a great question because they were very different

1978
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 11: because of growing up on the West Side. Her family

1979
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 11: was Catholic, of course, and sent Janet to Catholic girls' school.

1980
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,599
Speaker 11: My mother and her mother were Protestant, and as they

1981
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 11: came to know one another. Seventy years later, they realized

1982
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 11: that I had very different political views.

1983
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of the point I was coming I

1984
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: was going to come to. I'm glad you brought it

1985
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 1: up yourself, because I'm going to pry into the politics

1986
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: of it. So different religious philosophy and then different political philosophies.

1987
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: So I presume one Democrat one Republican was as simple

1988
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: as boiling it down to that. Was there something beyond that?

1989
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 11: Now's that's exactly right.

1990
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: East side was Republican, right, Yes, just like the West side.

1991
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: You cander us expect it's going to be from a

1992
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Catholic family. Having grown up in del High I'm hip

1993
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to that. Beverly. There were two children in my mom

1994
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: and dad's family, and there were mostly five and six

1995
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: children in the balance of the neighborhoods face. I'll let

1996
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: you do the math on who is Catholic and who wasn't.

1997
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: So why will my listeners Beverly Williams, author of the

1998
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: book Parallel and Separate, A Tale of Two Sisters? Why

1999
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: will my listeners find your family history and the lives

2000
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: of your mother and her sister growing up severally? A

2001
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: fascinating story worthy of reading, Beverly.

2002
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 11: The reason is truly the setting of Cincinnati. In book

2003
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 11: one for my mother and in book two for my

2004
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 11: aunt Janet, they bring to the book memories from both

2005
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 11: the West Side and the East Side, and I think people,

2006
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 11: particularly in the local area can relate to those memories

2007
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 11: as well as the incredible part of their memories also

2008
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 11: of downtown Landmark. So you have to wonder did they

2009
01:49:55,920 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 11: see each other on Fountain Square? Did they me one

2010
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 11: another on a bus and not know that they were books?

2011
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 11: And their grandfather and their father were the groundskeepers at

2012
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 11: Coney Island, So Coney Island is a is somewhat of

2013
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 11: a focus of both books. Now in book two, I

2014
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 11: had the time. My mother had passed, so I had

2015
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 11: the time to do research on where did their father's

2016
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 11: ancestors come from and where did their mother's ancestors come from?

2017
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 11: And I add that detail in book two.

2018
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Wonderful. So the very interesting and quite unusual story of

2019
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: them being separated at such a young agent growing up

2020
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: in the same town, but you know, not knowing each

2021
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: other is a vehicle to bring in all of this,

2022
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, relevant Cincinnati area history, I suppose, is how

2023
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 1: you boil that down. Yes, exactly, great well local historians,

2024
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 1: and uh, I guess maybe Peter Bronson should read a

2025
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 1: copy of this, since he writes local history. Relieved by

2026
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: the way, Peter Bronson's new book was great. I finished

2027
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: it the other day. You'll love it anyhow, So I

2028
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: want to ask you, Beverly, what was and and maybe

2029
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned it before and I'm sorry I didn't process it,

2030
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 1: But I'm curious to know why the Shirley and Janet

2031
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: didn't know each other, Why they kept this sort of

2032
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: a family secret, that that that you know they had

2033
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: Aye had a sibling living across town. What happened to

2034
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: prevent you your mom and her sister from knowing about

2035
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: each other?

2036
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 11: They believed it was somewhat of a shameful issue that

2037
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 11: the grandfather had separated the two sisters, especially not allowing

2038
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 11: them to get to know one another, not allowing them

2039
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:56,560
Speaker 11: the same privileges in life. So what is what is

2040
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 11: the reason? Betid my title? Both sisters grew up obviously

2041
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:07,719
Speaker 11: separate from one another, but as they become young working

2042
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 11: women and then wives, and then mothers and even grandmothers

2043
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,440
Speaker 11: and then widows. During the time that they became reunited,

2044
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 11: they realized that truly they were. They had lives more

2045
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 11: in parallel to one another than they initially believed.

2046
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: How much time are they able to spend each other?

2047
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: Did they create a friendship or a strong relationship after

2048
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: meeting after seventy years? And how long were they around

2049
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: if they did, in fact spend any time together? How

2050
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: long were they around to do that.

2051
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,480
Speaker 11: They did when they were both in there obviously their seventies.

2052
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 11: They wrote to one another, they sent cards, they talked. Initially,

2053
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 11: they tucked on the phone a lot, and had lunches

2054
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 11: and dinners and even had a spontaneous crypt of Florida together.

2055
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 11: But over time, as they become more and more elderly,

2056
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 11: they began to decline in their relationship. And once I

2057
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:13,440
Speaker 11: put my mother in a nursing home, their relationship really deteriorated.

2058
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. But at least they got

2059
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: to spend time together learn about each other, and you

2060
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: got this fascinating story that obviously we're compelled to write about.

2061
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: To the budding authors out there, people who think, oh,

2062
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm ever going to get published, can't

2063
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 1: do it, How did you manage to is these are

2064
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: the first books you've written?

2065
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 4: Yes, okay they are.

2066
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: That's well, that's an accomplishment and in itself. So what

2067
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of what recommendation is a local author and is

2068
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: it obviously a not well published yet anyway, would you

2069
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: give the people who might be inspired to write a book,

2070
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: or maybe who have been thinking about that, what would

2071
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: you say to them?

2072
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 11: I would say go for it. I would say, if

2073
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 11: you have a story that you believe in and can

2074
01:53:56,680 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 11: add to it details and add to it some conversations

2075
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 11: and interactions, especially with other people and settings like Cincinnati.

2076
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 11: I was fascinated by places in Cincinnati both my mother

2077
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 11: and my aunt Janet talked about I never knew of Yeah,

2078
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 11: so I was able to go around this city and say, oh,

2079
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 11: I didn't know about that, but what a wonderful area.

2080
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 11: My Aunt Janet was fascinated with Miami Whitewater Forest. I

2081
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 11: had never heard of that. So it was fun doing

2082
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 11: the book, doing the research, and suddenly you have pages

2083
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 11: and pages of good information to share.

2084
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's great, I guess today. Beverly Park, William's local

2085
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: author Parallel and Separate Book two A Tela Two sisters

2086
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: learn about the Greater Cincinnatier generally speaking of this fascinating

2087
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 1: tale of the women who were separated at a very

2088
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: young age and lived in the same town. You didn't

2089
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: even know of each other's existence. Beverly, has been a

2090
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: sweet opportunity to speak with you this morning, and I

2091
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you writing the book and inspiring other local authors

2092
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: maybe put pen to paper, as the case may be,

2093
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: and put their own work together getting it published. Maybe

2094
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 1: another thing, how are you able to get your book published,

2095
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Beverly Williams Before we part company?

2096
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 11: So initially with the first book, I went through Amazon

2097
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 11: through their publishing operation. With this second book, I actually

2098
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 11: used Ingram Spark. And the reason I did is one

2099
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 11: of the book stores in Milford said, well, you know

2100
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 11: all the bookstores purchase their books through Ingram Spark, who

2101
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 11: is the distributor of books. So I said, oh, okay,

2102
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 11: So I invented that and published through Ingram Spark. And

2103
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 11: I have been going around bookstores asking them to please

2104
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 11: purchase my book.

2105
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 1: Of course, that's how you get it out in the world, Beverly,

2106
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: and you become a well published author. And I wish

2107
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: you all the best as you move toward that endeavor

2108
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: and I hope people will enjoy the book parallel and

2109
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: separate a tale two Sisters. That'd be a book two.

2110
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: You can read book one as well. See the talk station.

2111
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: There you go a twenty three fifty five KR see

2112
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: the talk station.

2113
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 4: Man.

2114
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: Christmas is fast approaching, isn't it? Anyhow? I always got

2115
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: to give an none to Vinscarralti Tree the only license

2116
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: official sanctioned music here for Christmas time in the fifty

2117
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: five Carcene Morning Show, with the exception of the twenty

2118
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: thirty December the Christmas I like to call it Christmas Special.

2119
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: A YULETI tradition here on the Morning Show, and just

2120
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: if so many fond memories of my father, and I

2121
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: got to spend time with them, even in the early

2122
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: years wave way way before I even was I mean,

2123
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I was a lawyer practicing. I would come in and

2124
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: spend some time with Dad, and of course continued the

2125
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: holiday tradition after I took over the Morning Show. Rob

2126
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 1: Ryder has been a part of that for well, for

2127
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: as long as I can remember. He is a Cincinnati legend.

2128
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Of course, speaking of Cincinnati history, you can't have a

2129
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati history without talking about, you know, the Bob ron

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Speaker 1: Show and Ruth Lyons and all those wonderful icons from

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Speaker 1: back in the day, and of course Rob's among them.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna bring his guitar. He will be singing some

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Speaker 1: Christmas carols and we will be enjoying a festive at

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Speaker 1: least I hope it will be a holiday show. That's

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Speaker 1: next the twenty third. I said, it's so fast approaching,

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Speaker 1: so please feel free to tune in on that. Rob.

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to having you back and put

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Speaker 1: us in the yule Tide spirit. At least it will

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Speaker 1: help me get to that end. Stick around local stories

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Speaker 1: or phone calls. Got one phone call coming in. You

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Speaker 1: can feel free to join the fun. Five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five eight hundred eight two three talk pound

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Speaker 1: five fifty on AT and T phones. Hey look, Iris Rowling,

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Speaker 1: he made it back into the news. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the local stories. I started the program out this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember Iris. Guess who's got a brand new contract

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Speaker 1: entered into two days after the election. Yeah her, It

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Speaker 1: looks like ja'son the phone, Jay, hang on, take your

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Speaker 1: call right after the break. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Steve Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: A twenty eight fifty five he or CD talk station.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe Strecker. I don't know about you. This

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Speaker 1: always puts me in a holiday festive mood. I could

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Speaker 1: listen to better. Fact we were putting the tree up

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Speaker 1: the day after Thanksgiving. Guess what I put on? Yes,

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Speaker 1: this one. It never gets sold for me because it's

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Speaker 1: so it just childhood that piano play is just I

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Speaker 1: just think of my early early childhood, you know, back

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Speaker 1: of the days we still believed in Santa Claus, and

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Speaker 1: you you know, try to stay up and keep yourself

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Speaker 1: awake so you can see Santa Claus. Always unsuccessfully. Joe

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Speaker 1: Streker still believes. Good for you, Joe, because if you don't,

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Speaker 1: you don't get any Is that why I don't get

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Speaker 1: any presents? I thought because my wife told me whatever

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Speaker 1: I needed I just bought over during the year. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: Well I believe in Santa How's that that that changes?

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Speaker 1: Is that a believable statement? Jay, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, Brian. And just like that, a one

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Speaker 10: hundred thousands around Cincinnati just found.

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Speaker 7: Out about.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jay, I ask brad Winstrop because he's got

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Speaker 1: young ones. One of them is on the edge of

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Speaker 1: disbelief because her classmates kind of talk about in the

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Speaker 1: you know, Santa and his oldest is already beyond that.

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Speaker 1: But I just lit me said, well, you know, classmates

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Speaker 1: are no and Brian Thomas saying something out loud or not.

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Speaker 1: There is the Internet, Jay, and young people tend to

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Speaker 1: have access to it for sad reasons, so they can

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Speaker 1: find out the reality if they choose to. And as

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker just pointed out, Santa Claus is in fact real.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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Speaker 8: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 10: Hey, the reason I'm calling, First of all, I want

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Speaker 10: to thank you and Joe for what you guys do.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 10: I listen to you guys every day. I do a

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Speaker 10: lot of travel and I pick you up on the

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Speaker 10: iHeart streaming and it just starts my morning.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: God bless you for that. That's a true gift for me.

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Speaker 7: Man I.

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Speaker 1: Anytime someone says they listen to the Morning Show, I

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Speaker 1: look at them almost in a state of disbelief, but

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Speaker 1: it really means the world to me.

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Speaker 10: Well yeah, well, thanks for what you do. But the

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Speaker 10: topic I caught in on was that I read the

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Speaker 10: other day that there's yet another scandal in the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 10: Five hundred victims stepping forward, They're starting another couple funds,

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Speaker 10: hundreds of millions of dollars, And I guess it just

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Speaker 10: kind of clicked in my brain of you know, I'm

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Speaker 10: I'm a fan of let's get the Epstein files out there,

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Speaker 10: let's let's get justice for these victims. And if this

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Speaker 10: was any other organization than the Catholic Church that didn't

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Speaker 10: have the money and the power and the brand of

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Speaker 10: the Catholic Church. I've been hearing about these scandals all

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Speaker 10: my life, and I'm over fifty years old. At what

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Speaker 10: point did what point does law enforcement get involved here

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Speaker 10: and understand that they are either not capable or willing

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Speaker 10: to protect their members from the sexual abuse that goes

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Speaker 10: on decade after decade after decade, how many more thousands

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Speaker 10: of victims? And it seems like the solution always is

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Speaker 10: if they throw money at it, then it goes away.

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Speaker 10: And that's a question I never really understood with a lot.

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Speaker 10: Maybe you could help me out with that, Like I have.

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Speaker 1: Other than what you say, political connections, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks in elected a capacity that are Catholics themselves.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Catholic Church has a lot of influence over

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Speaker 1: elected officials or law enforcement members. I don't know. But

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Speaker 1: if it was a non religious organization that had inolve

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Speaker 1: engauged in ongoing and cover up complicit cover up activity

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Speaker 1: hiding people from law enforcement who molested children, you know

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Speaker 1: damn well, the a warrant would be issued, files would

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Speaker 1: be rated, evidence would be collected. Who knew what and when?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a criminal enterprise, who knows? But you know,

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Speaker 1: under RICO, two or more people working together for the

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Speaker 1: purpose of committing a crime that's organized crime in and

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Speaker 1: of itself. How many people were involved in cover ups

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Speaker 1: in child molestation within that church. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be critical to Catholic Church in terms of faith.

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Speaker 1: I understand, I get it. I understand your doctrine and dogma.

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Speaker 1: I grew up around it. I mean, my entire neighborhood

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Speaker 1: was Catholic. So this isn't a criticism of Catholicism. It's

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Speaker 1: a criticism who's running the show, right.

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Speaker 10: Jay, exactly exactly, And it doesn't matter what the organization is.

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Speaker 10: And I also see it what like NFL players like

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Speaker 10: Ben Roethlisberger a few years back, quarterback for the Steelers.

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Speaker 10: He raped the girl. It's on the police report, but

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Speaker 10: he was able to stroke a check big enough that

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Speaker 10: he's hat on the field playing the next day. And

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Speaker 10: I'm thinking, hasn't a crime still men committed? If the

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Speaker 10: victim is saying, I got my settlement, I'm not pressing charges,

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Speaker 10: doesn't law enforcement still want to get that person in

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Speaker 10: prison to protect the rest of us are the rest

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Speaker 10: of the women out there. We don't understand how this is,

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Speaker 10: this system, but we stroke a check big enough the

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Speaker 10: crime goes away.

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Speaker 1: Well, you could probably go on all day. Look, the

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Speaker 1: grand jury refused to indict Letitia James for mortgage fraud,

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Speaker 1: even though the documents prove, I think beyond a reasonable

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Speaker 1: doubt that she engaged in mortgage fraud. So and maybe

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Speaker 1: it is who you're connected to, Jay, And I say

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Speaker 1: that sort of tongue in cheek. There's a reality to

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. And it's not the Catholic Church. It's

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Speaker 1: not just that it's just baked into the cake.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not equal treatment under the law.

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Speaker 4: Terry.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, exactly. This isn't some great revelation that we're

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Speaker 1: showing here and illustrating here today, Jay, It's just a

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Speaker 1: reiteration of a problem that has existed for a very

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Speaker 1: very long time. Fortunately, though, in a day before the Internet,

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Speaker 1: I would argue none of us would know about Epstein

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Speaker 1: or the Epstein files, using that as an illustration or

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Speaker 1: an example, nobody would what. Really, you didn't even know

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Speaker 1: what legislation Congress was working on any given time before

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Speaker 1: we got this immediate volume of real time information, access

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Speaker 1: to the actual documents themselves. It's all right there for

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Speaker 1: all to see. So much fraud, waste and abuse has

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Speaker 1: been revealed. Corruption's been revealed. We all know about it

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Speaker 1: because we're all connected. Now, that's a great, great thing.

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Speaker 1: I always look for positive things that have come from

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Speaker 1: the Internet age, and I think that's one of them.

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Speaker 1: You can hold a people people accountable. You can witness

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Speaker 1: and see the problems inherent in the system, and then

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Speaker 1: you got to turn to your elected officials or whoever

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Speaker 1: else is responsible for solving the problem and see if

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Speaker 1: they do anything about it. This is why I've been

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Speaker 1: such a terror on such a terri late about the fraud, waste,

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Speaker 1: and abuse that's been revealed in literally the four corners

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Speaker 1: of government Minnesota, most recently billion dollars a billion of

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Speaker 1: your dollars stolen by the Somali community in Minnesota. Would

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Speaker 1: we have ever known about that? And then pivot over

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Speaker 1: to all the other fraud, waste and abuse that's been

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Speaker 1: revealed with the COVID money that's been handed out with

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Speaker 1: the Green New Deal. Problem goes all the way back

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Speaker 1: to like the Obama era with the A one twenty

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Speaker 1: five and all these entities getting your money hands selected

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Speaker 1: by the elected officials in Washington under whatever administration they

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Speaker 1: got chosen. Why didn't some other company get chosen. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's because they're connected. Maybe they were writing big chicks

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Speaker 1: and big checks and making political contributions. Hmmm yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 1: So we see it. The question is will an't even

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Speaker 1: do anything about it? So I've been on a tear

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Speaker 1: again about this fraud, wasting abuse that should be the

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Speaker 1: first and foremost thing. It's like Dave Hatter, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna build an Internet of Things device, start with security

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Speaker 1: and move on from there. They don't have any interest

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Speaker 1: or concern what happens with the money once it's handed

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Speaker 1: over to their well connected individuals, so you can draw

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Speaker 1: parallels with that, and yeah, the disparate treatment of individuals

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Speaker 1: based upon who they are in the criminal justice system

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Speaker 1: eight thirty six Right now Bobby and Terry the Pilot,

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Speaker 1: no way, looking forward to hearing from both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, stick.

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Speaker 6: Away fifty five KARC men deep talk station.

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Speaker 1: A thirty nine fifty five ker CD talk station. Christmas

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Speaker 1: time is indeed here. Enjoy it now real quick here

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Speaker 1: before and indulge me for a moment here Terry the

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Speaker 1: Pile and Bobby. I can't wait to talk to you both.

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Speaker 1: But further to my rant there. Yes, yesterday, Education Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Line McMahon and it made an announcement. Interesting it

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Speaker 1: is Trump administration has prevented one billion with a B

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Speaker 1: in student law loan fraud this year. Why just increasing

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Speaker 1: the identification requirement. That's it. They implemented mandatory identification verification

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Speaker 1: on certain first time applicants after they uncovered ninety million

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Speaker 1: in federal student aid fraud, thirty million in loans that

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Speaker 1: went to dead people, forty million the companies using bots

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Speaker 1: disguised as fake students. Wow. Interesting revelation that here. Let's

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Speaker 1: look a little bit deeper. Oh McMahon said, quote, it

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Speaker 1: was really a pretty simple thing to do. You think

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Speaker 1: about the fact that when you buy airplane tickets or whatever,

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Speaker 1: you have to show an ID if you're gonna rent

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Speaker 1: a car. But there had been no kind of ID verification.

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Speaker 1: As students filed their applications for student loans, you know,

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Speaker 1: into the Bide administration, they didn't do any of this

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Speaker 1: identity verification, as reported by the Washington Times, required from

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Speaker 1: less than one percent of the applicants, which is how

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Speaker 1: you end up getting a billion dollars worth of fraud.

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Speaker 1: How simple was that to do? Flip a switch? All

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Speaker 1: doge is evil? No, they're not simple process. There's one

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Speaker 1: billion add them all up. It ends up being a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. Terry the Pilot, long time, no speak,

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Speaker 1: my friend. I hope you're doing well. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: I'm telling you that there's mornings like today.

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Speaker 3: Retirement is great.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about de icing the wings

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Speaker 1: before you go on that cross across the globe flight right, Terry.

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Speaker 12: No more icy runways, no more low visibilities, no more crosswinds.

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Speaker 8: It's great.

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Speaker 12: But you talk about Catholics and Somalis in Minneapolis. As

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Speaker 12: a guy that went through Minneapolis quite a bit, I

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Speaker 12: ran into a few people that were immigrating or integrating

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Speaker 12: through Minneapolis, and I discovered how did they get so

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Speaker 12: many Some mallies it's called Catholic and Lutheran charity are

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Speaker 12: and they guess what, They're subsidized by the government. That

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Speaker 12: goes back to the Bush administration legislation that allowed the

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Speaker 12: federal government to directly subsidize charities. At the time, I thought, well,

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Speaker 12: maybe that's a good idea, but now I look at

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Speaker 12: the costs and I'm thinking, like, you put somebody like

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Speaker 12: Obama and Hillary in and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 12: we ended up with thousands of not only some maalies,

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Speaker 12: but everybody else that are here legally on visas, and

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Speaker 12: then an NNGO from the Democrats managed to somehow get

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Speaker 12: them free money for an assistance or COVID money to

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Speaker 12: help them live without working.

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Speaker 1: Right, and if it was truly part of the mission

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Speaker 1: to bring people into this country, like the Catholics or

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Speaker 1: any other religious organization, Usually people on the left, most notably,

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Speaker 1: but people on the right might scream about government money

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Speaker 1: going to support religious organizations. What are happened to separation

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Speaker 1: of church and state. Grumble, grumble, grumble. And if it

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Speaker 1: was in fact part of their mission, isn't the contributions

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Speaker 1: from the church and the parishioners or whoever else. They're

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Speaker 1: the ones that are responsible for funding these activities. In

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Speaker 1: other words, if you want to help facilitate it, dip

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Speaker 1: down into your tithing pocket receipts and pay for it yourself.

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Speaker 1: But now they're relying on government money to achieve their

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Speaker 1: what are arguably, from their perspective, their religious ends. Hmm.

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Speaker 1: There may be a constitutional argument built in there, Terry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 12: Evidently there's some fences between church and state, and other fences,

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Speaker 12: aren't there, depending on what religion you.

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Speaker 1: Are yep, or what you'rre doing with the government money. Terry.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the answer to the question lies.

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Speaker 1: If you're fulfilling a government objective by overrunning our nation

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of people from other lands that are

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Speaker 1: not here legally and have entered our country legally with

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Speaker 1: the help of these religious NGOs or not, that's their goal. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the church wants to help us overwhelm the United States

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of illegal immigrants. Okay, we'll help them.

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Speaker 1: If they were doing something to the opposite, then they

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have gotten the help, and they would have

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Speaker 1: made arguments about separation of church and states and the

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Speaker 1: dollars that go with that separation. Appreciate good hearing from me, Terry.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're enjoying retirement. Bobby, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Happy Friday, my friend. We want to thank you for

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Speaker 4: all you do. You're just maintaining Almighty God's America.

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Speaker 1: This way you can try and at least trying to

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Speaker 1: point out where the warts are. Maybe we'll do something

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Speaker 1: about it when we run into them.

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Speaker 4: Terry or Bobby, Well, all these graft, greed and gratuities

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about federal level, all you gotta do

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Speaker 4: is look in town. It's like that right downtown. Of course,

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Speaker 4: it is just a bigger it's just on a bigger

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Speaker 4: level of the federal And look at it.

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Speaker 1: And she is like Iris Rowley's new contract, right, Iris

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Speaker 1: Rowley is Iris Rowley got a new contract worth almost

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Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars. She's sort of a fly in

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Speaker 1: the ointment of a law on law enforcement. But she's

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Speaker 1: a consultant and is she's employed her son. And she

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Speaker 1: also has made her husband slightly more wealthy because he

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Speaker 1: owns a company called Raleigh's I'm Sorry road Show Awards

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Speaker 1: and Graphics. And she paid him, her husband at least

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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred dollars for T shirts, hoodies and performance shirts

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Speaker 1: for the folks that work on Government Square that I

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Speaker 1: believe are managed by her son. So little Shenanigan's going

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02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 1: on there. But since she's an independent contractor, we'll call

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Speaker 1: her just for the sake of boiled down argument along

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Speaker 1: the points we've been talking about this morning. One of

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Speaker 1: the NGOs that's the recipient of Cincinnati tax payer dollars, right.

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Speaker 4: Is a legal contract of just for a dollar? Can't

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02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 4: you have legal contract for one dollar talking down there

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Speaker 4: and get more kind of advice for half that price?

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Speaker 1: Good luck, Bobby. I think if they find out your politics,

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Speaker 1: they might not consider you, even if you are a

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Speaker 1: viable option. You want to give you catch mark, Fred,

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about faith, family, family, flag and

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Speaker 1: freedom and firearms. Bobby, I think I just did that

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I tell you one thing I want to do.

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Speaker 4: I want to commend Cincinnati, for one thing, they have

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Speaker 4: the best medical care of almost anywhere in the country. Children,

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Speaker 4: old people, people that are now only declined. We've got

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Speaker 4: the best, Yes we do, I tell you what. With

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Speaker 4: the weather like it is, and people being cooped up

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Speaker 4: inside and the holidays coming up and all the stress

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Speaker 4: and confusion, we're putting the shooting contract this weekend Friday,

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Speaker 4: Saturday and Sunday at three and a half. So thanks

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Speaker 4: for all the medicalies to keep people surviving. We're putting

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Speaker 4: the shootings at three and a.

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Speaker 7: Half for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: You see medical center. I'm gonna hang out there and

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Speaker 1: uh and and and count the tally. Bobby, All right,

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Speaker 1: let us let that sit take care of man of

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Speaker 1: a great weekendy forty six right now. If you have

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Speaker 1: why not, I'll be.

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Speaker 6: Right back fifty the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Putting a smile on my face as much as the

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Speaker 1: Defence the way you're looking, and it is indeed a

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Speaker 1: wonderful world From my perspective, I certainly appreciate tuning in

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Speaker 1: to the fifty five Carcee morning show Tech Friday, a

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Speaker 1: day of had to this morning great topics. As always

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Speaker 1: with Dave, he got menic cues in a local card

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Speaker 1: skimming case, which obviously led to the broader conversation about

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Speaker 1: skimming and stealing your information generally speaking, and some good

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Speaker 1: advice on that. Some people saying no to the Windows

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Speaker 1: you keep that, the more likely it is hackers are

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Speaker 1: be exploited and then come after you. The reason they

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Speaker 1: do that, it's because people don't upgrade their systems. So

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Speaker 1: don't be one of those people. Take Dave's advice. Just

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Speaker 1: go ahead, bite the bullet and upgrade and you'll avoid

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Speaker 1: more problems. Plus Google sort of kind of sharing your

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Speaker 1: So podcast fifty five Case dot Com Great Time with

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Speaker 1: scratch the surface of the multitude of topics we were

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Speaker 1: able to talk about. But I did enjoy that conversation

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Speaker 1: and always do appreciate hearing what he has to say

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Speaker 1: about important events going on. Beverly Park Williams local author.

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Speaker 1: You can get a copy of her book Parallel and Separate.

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Speaker 1: It really is a story about her mother and her sister,

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Speaker 1: separated like almost birth, that they grew up on different

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Speaker 1: sides of Cincinnati, so that serves as a vehicle to

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Speaker 1: talk about all the different areas of the city and

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Speaker 1: different points in points of view in terms of the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. So it's like a history book built

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Speaker 1: around her very interesting story. That's excuse me if you do.

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Speaker 1: You have caresey dot com and that allowed me to

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Speaker 1: give props. I just dearly loved the Sorry Peter Bronson.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him her only week about his new book,

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Speaker 1: Magical History Tour or last week. It was a great book.

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Speaker 1: It didn't take very long to read it, and it's

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Speaker 1: five different stories. And I sent him an email yesterday

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Speaker 1: to tell him how much I enjoyed the book a

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Speaker 1: and get a book. But I had to thank him,

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Speaker 1: not just because all five stories all again centered around

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati and famous figures or infamous figures

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Speaker 1: in this particular case, including thank you Peter Bronson again

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Speaker 1: a specific shout out to him yesterday because he did

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Speaker 1: one chapter on stan Chesley and the Fenfen litigation, along

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Speaker 1: with other well criminals lawyers swore into a pold an

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Speaker 1: oath of ethics, And I know you might laugh at that,

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Speaker 1: but you know I took my the profession very seriously

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Speaker 1: and I tried to be as ethical and moral as

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Speaker 1: I could possibly be, because why, it's my client, it's

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Speaker 1: my client's interest, it's my client's damn money, and what

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Speaker 1: they did to the people that they purported to represent

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Speaker 1: is just unconscionable. And trust me, if the FCC was

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Speaker 1: not listening or I could get away with FCC violations,

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Speaker 1: I would use an FCC violation Mulligan or whatever to

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Speaker 1: more pointedly criticized the people that were involved in that

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Speaker 1: litigation they stole it was a two hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: settlement involved in the fen Fen litigation. They stole it.

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Speaker 1: Quite a few of them went to jail. Stanchezli, I

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Speaker 1: guess ended up cooperating on some level. Get he didn't

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Speaker 1: go to jail, although I would argue he well deserved it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm speaking ill of the dead. That's

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Speaker 1: okay because read it for yourself, and I love how

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Speaker 1: Peter Bronson did it. He was able to summarize all

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Speaker 1: the information in very complex case.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 1: By creating a scenario where a news reporter is sitting

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Speaker 1: in a booth and two men come in while that

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Speaker 1: trial is going on, and somehow the men were involved

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Speaker 1: in the trial, and you can read for yourself. They

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Speaker 1: were sitting in the booth next to the reporter. So

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Speaker 1: the reporter got his notes out and he starts writing

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Speaker 1: down all the information that they were talking about. And

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Speaker 1: so it's an easy mechanism as an author for him

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Speaker 1: to boil down a whole lot of information and not

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Speaker 1: just read it off like facts, but weave it into

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Speaker 1: a story that involved a discussion between two people. So

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Speaker 1: but I gave him props for calling out that rat

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Speaker 1: and the other rats that were involved in that so

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Speaker 1: local history right there Peter Bronson's Magical History Tour and

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Speaker 1: you can get that if if you have caresy dot

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Speaker 1: com on my blog page along with the podcast. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned from the day, I hope you have a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. We'll hear from Christopher Smithman and Brian James

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Speaker 1: on Monday. As his tradition, Joe Strekker has always thank

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Speaker 1: you for everything you do for producing the program. Without you,

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Speaker 1: this would not be a program. I assure you that

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend, Folks, don't go away. Glen Beeck's

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Speaker 1: coming right out.

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Speaker 6: Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

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