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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it a little more at

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Speaker 1: four at six for our friend Humel, and we wanted

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Speaker 1: Hugh to have a chance to digest everything that was said,

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Speaker 1: everything that was tweeted, everything that was tiktoked this afternoon

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Speaker 1: said on this radio station. He told me, Dick this morning,

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear your insight meaning softy in

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Speaker 2: Before I go on the air and break this thing down.

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Speaker 1: He appreciate that, appreciate you taking our inputs into consideration

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, how about it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We talked last night on the radio show that I again,

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Speaker 1: I think we can kind of admit this now that

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened last night. How about that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was almost too good to be true

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Speaker 4: from a script standpoint. And it's not just the redemption

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Speaker 4: and you know, Spike the football against all his critics.

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Speaker 4: I just felt so happy for him and seemingly he

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Speaker 4: the whatever the narrative has been about him, and so

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Speaker 4: just so cool to watch that. And look he went

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Speaker 4: Now he had more completions for ten yards, but twenty

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Speaker 4: he was more clutch Dick. As you mentioned on third down.

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Speaker 4: You know the plays that had to be made. Seattle

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Speaker 5: Well, heugh in the prior to games against LA he

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Speaker 5: In this game, he had all three touchdowns and no

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got dumped on all three of those touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: And so the only guy to do that, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that he just stood. He stood calm, and

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Speaker 6: What what.

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Speaker 4: Stafford wanted to do is hit this what's called a

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Speaker 4: eighty plays. If somebody were to say to me that

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Speaker 4: Sean McVeigh handed Mike McDonald his ass in that game,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't dispute it. The numbers are there. But on

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald handled Sean mchanded Sean McVay his ass because

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Speaker 2: Sounds fair to me.

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Speaker 1: You hand me your ass for six of eight quarters

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Speaker 1: and I'll hand you my ass and the biggest player

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Speaker 7: That's fine, that's a good trade.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 5: Hugh Matthew Stafford was zero for six on third down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, week seventeen eighteen, and then the three three weeks

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Speaker 4: number one. The Seahawks they are ten of forty exactly

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Speaker 4: The Patriots have defended seventy. Yeah, third downs they're twenty two.

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Speaker 4: That's thirty one percent. That's tenth best. But Seattle, I think,

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Speaker 2: If Reek Welln were a wall, how hard would you

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Speaker 4: It's brutal. I think it's very fair to be disgusted, uh, outraged, apoplectic,

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Speaker 4: all imagine if they lost the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean if we're apoplectic, Now, what's what's worse than apoplectic?

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Speaker 1: your hands on him, You get up in his face.

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Speaker 1: If you're an official and you say and you scream

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Speaker 4: And then he gets he gets beat on a stutter.

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Speaker 4: I love the hires that he made in McDonald. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Good on him humiling with us.

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Speaker 4: All right, what's up man, where you've been?

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Speaker 1: It's been around, but come back and look ahead to

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Speaker 2: Muffed it put a second time today.

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Speaker 5: Has all the slow mo replay that they could possibly need,

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Speaker 4: It's on the RAMS sideline, and and the officials were

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Speaker 4: put air quotes analysts. The NFL does not have full

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Speaker 4: time officials. These guys have all you know, they're herding

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Speaker 4: goats and doing all these other things all during the week.

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Speaker 4: They show up on a Sunday and they expect. They're

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Speaker 4: not nice. Nobody's hurting and goat stop. One of them

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Speaker 4: is a dairy farmer who's a goat herder.

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Speaker 1: There's a there's a there's a verys The guy herds

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Speaker 1: one goat and he's a goat Herderically, yeah, yeah, like.

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Speaker 4: I say, you suck one sucker and you're a sucker sucker.

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Speaker 4: You know, that would be the g rated version. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would say look here if they were if they

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Speaker 4: spent the entire week, because these interference calls I think

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Speaker 4: are the most egregious, these bang bangs that they cannot

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Speaker 4: get right. If they spent talk to Edgar Martinez about

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Speaker 4: his one hundred and fifty mile an hour tennis balls

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Speaker 4: with colored numbers, you know, red, three, green, seven, and

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Speaker 4: then you go back to ninety. You can train your

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Speaker 4: eyes to be faster, and virtual reality works for pilots,

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Speaker 4: it works for race car drivers. Who works for the military,

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Speaker 4: These guys need to be spending their week that they

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Speaker 4: should have already officiated.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five games by the time the Sunday at one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty speed and everything slows down and will

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Speaker 3: stop seeing so many of these ridiculously horrible calls and

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Speaker 3: no calls.

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Speaker 2: So you've made that point before.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's ever going to happen in

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Speaker 1: our lifetime, by the way, because I don't know. If

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Speaker 1: there's one opinion that you have held for a longer

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Speaker 1: period of time here on this radio station that has

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Speaker 1: not been turned into reality, then officials in the NFL

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Speaker 1: should be full.

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Speaker 4: Time, full time officials. And and I'll rejoice.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, if they do it my

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Speaker 1: own cake, the hell are you going to even talk

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 2: Facts you do it one, you're show. But like I

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Speaker 2: got nothing, I got nothing. They're full time officials. Now.

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Speaker 4: I have been talking about cover zero triple rat when

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Speaker 4: you run an NFC Championship game, which is the defensive

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Speaker 4: call that Mike McDonald had any.

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Speaker 2: All the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of people out there as we

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Speaker 1: kind of switch a little bit to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna break this thing down for the next thirteen days. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that are pointing to the schedule that the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots played right one of the easiest schedules in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm looking at a run here my

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Speaker 1: got It was between Week six and Week thirteen where

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Speaker 1: they played the Saints, the Titans, the Browns, the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, the Giants, the Jets, and the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: And they won them all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, how good is this Patriot team?

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Speaker 4: Well, I haven't studied them a lot, but as it

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Speaker 4: pertains to the schedule, the NFL has their tie breakers.

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Speaker 4: Strength of victory actually is before strength of schedule. That's

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Speaker 4: just the win percentage of all the teams that you beat.

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Speaker 4: The Rams had the best at four eighty five. The

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Speaker 4: Seahawks had the second best at four to seventy one.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots had of these are of the fourteen playoff teams.

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Speaker 4: Of the fourteen playoff teams, Seattle had the second best,

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Speaker 4: Patriots had the worst. And then when you calculate the

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Speaker 4: wins that Seattle's opponents had in Seattle wins. Seattle's number

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Speaker 4: one one hundred and twelve wins by their opponents. The

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Speaker 4: next closest is is ninety four Jacksonville. So and New

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Speaker 4: England at eighty eight is the second worst in that

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Speaker 4: now excuse me, third worst in that regard. So, so, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you look at this, and the Patriots they haven't you know,

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Speaker 4: they haven't seen a cut of steak like Seattle very often,

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Speaker 4: if at all.

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Speaker 5: This is going to be an unusual situation for Seattle.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the prohibitive favorite in the super Bowl. That

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Speaker 5: has not happened before. So and flip it over on

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Speaker 5: the Patriots. They're not used to being the underdogs in

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl either. And so this whole us against

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Speaker 5: the world thing, it's already started for the Patriots.

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Speaker 7: How tangible it advantage.

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Speaker 5: Is that actually us against the world or once they

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Speaker 5: get as they say, between the lines, it's just one

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Speaker 5: team's better than the other.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a tangible advantage. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: that there's a lot of people in the media who

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Speaker 4: pooh pooh things like bulletin board material, you know, and

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Speaker 4: they say, oh, that's not going to matter when they play. Well,

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Speaker 4: then tell me why the greatest coaches in the history

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Speaker 4: of the game constantly are looking for bill bulletin board

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Speaker 4: material and posting in the locker bulletin board material. And

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Speaker 4: I and why are the best coaches in the game

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Speaker 4: constantly trying to find that underdog chip like nobody respects us, right,

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Speaker 4: So Mike Vrabel's gonna play that card. I think that

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Speaker 4: he's gonna fairly and adequately and appropriately play that card

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Speaker 4: because the Sea Arks are going to be favored, and

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Speaker 4: he's going to try and rev that up as much

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Speaker 4: as he can because that kind of you know, that

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Speaker 4: kind of chip has proven, at least in the minds

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Speaker 4: of the coaches. We're going back decades, Yeah, decades. As

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Speaker 4: long as sports have been around. Team sports have been around,

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Speaker 4: there's been coaches that have been motivating the underdog, trying

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Speaker 4: to get the chip on their shoulders. So I would

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Speaker 4: expect nothing less, And I think that often it works.

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Speaker 4: I think oftentimes when you have upsets, that that chip

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Speaker 4: is central to the reason why the upset occurred. You

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Speaker 4: like Dreg May as a quarterback, I do. I I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure if he's ready. You know, when I watch him,

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Speaker 4: I see goods, but I see him go through spells

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Speaker 4: where he just he doesn't look like he's in command

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Speaker 4: or really you know, he's just kind of reactive. I

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Speaker 4: thought his legs were better than his arm on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: now you know, so yeah, I think he's but he's

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Speaker 4: gonna go second place to Matthew Stafford in the MVP building.

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Speaker 4: And in week after Week seventeen, look it up for me,

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Speaker 4: Dick if you can. I know, uh, Stafford in week

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Speaker 4: seventeen through what three interceptions against the Falcons. I might

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Speaker 4: be wrong on that, but it seemed like there was

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Speaker 4: one week there where Drake May. I looked at Drake

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Speaker 4: May two touchdowns, three picks at Atlanta right after that week,

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Speaker 4: Drake May, that was the one week where he had

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Speaker 4: the shortest odds in Vegas to be the MVP. Then

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Speaker 4: what did Stafford do in Week eighteen? He had like

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Speaker 4: three or four touchdown touchdowns and he got it back right,

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Speaker 4: So what we expect is Drake May will be second

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Speaker 4: in the MVP. If you ask me as a fan,

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Speaker 4: now I'm gonna I'm gonna study more tapes. So this

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Speaker 4: is my preliminary thought. The difference between Matthew Stafford and

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Speaker 4: Drake May spread your hands out as wide as they

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Speaker 4: can go. That's the difference between how how much I

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Speaker 4: would I don't want to say fear, but the concern

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Speaker 4: I would have as a Seahawk fan if we're playing

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford in the super Bowl versus playing Drake May

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Speaker 4: in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get to work, Pal, start breaking that

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Speaker 1: video down alright like only I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be looking for a cover zero triple rat.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: A season saver.

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Speaker 1: You get been called all year, You get your hands

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Speaker 1: on the all twenty two and.

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Speaker 4: Go to work, all right, God, I love that.

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Speaker 2: Alright, Yeah, great, down