WEBVTT - The Morning Show w/ Thom Brennaman -- 11/17/25 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.880 To grow your money like an investment farmer. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.200 This is the Boomberg Money Minute on seven hundred WLW. Already, 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.960 Monica Ritch joins us from the Bloomberg newsroom in New 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.960 York City. Apparently we're going to start getting some official 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.119 government data now that the shutdown is over. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.639 Yes, federal agencies will start working through a backlog of 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.560 reports now, including September's job figures this week, which will 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.000 help clarify economic momentum and federal reserve rate cut expectations. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.920 We know policymakers have another meeting next month, but those 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.960 job numbers are expected on Thursday. Inflation adjusted earnings will 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.000 come out on Friday. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:37.360 Okay. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.040 The world's richest men, including Bezos, Sinbusk, and so forth, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.199 are talking about traveling to outer space. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.000 Yes, they want to build gigantic data centers to run 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.159 artificial intelligence models, and they argue that they could be 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.040 powered by the Sun's energy, which can be harvested more 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.200 efficiently in space and could potentially be cheaper. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:57.560 Now. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.360 This is all according to the Wall Street Journal, which 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.600 says companies like Google and Video and SpaceX are all 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.920 working on these kinds of projects. They're even launching prototype 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.319 satellites now to develop plans for bases on the moon. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.880 Okay, well sounds good. The futures this morning. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:18.080 They are mixed this morning, but pretty much unchanged ahead 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.880 of a busy trading week. Dow futures down forty points, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.800 Nasdaq futures up just three points. SMP futures also down 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.600 three points from Bloomberg. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:27.560 I'm Monica Rix. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.200 On news radio seven hundred WLW. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.080 OK eight ten on the Morning show seven hundred WLW. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.759 We do it every morning after the Bengals play. We 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.840 call it the Morning After, and kind enough to join 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.319 us each in every week. Former Bengals star receiver and 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.000 return man Tim McGee. Tim, thanks as always for your time, 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.120 my friend. I don't know what else we can say. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.480 We'll get to the Chase stuff in a minute. But 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.880 as far as play yesterday, I thought it was a 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.200 coaching clinic by Mike Tomlin. He found the area of 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.360 vulnerability in his defense when he played the Bengals a 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.040 few weeks ago, that being Jamar Chase, and he pretty 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.400 much shut Chase down. Yesterday. I thought it was a 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.160 coaching clinic from a great head coach. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.920 Not only was it a great or phenomenal coaching clinic. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.079 The fact that they didn't have all their main guns 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.160 and they were still loaded and ready to go, and 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.760 they were still able to execute. And that's just the 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.720 genius of a Mike Tomlin. And if you want to 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.400 know why he's been in Pittsburgh so long and had 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.720 so much success and never had a losing season, now 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.200 you're looking at the prototype head coach in the National 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.680 Football League that the guy just knows whether you're doing 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.040 and he's a motivator, and in my opinion, he's one. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.160 Of the best, if not the best. Ways. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.280 Sorry, help me help. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.600 Me with something here, Tim, because you you were a 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.560 great player, you played with other great wide receivers. I 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.800 heard Dave Lapham yesterday talking during the broadcast that he 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.360 could not understand for the life of him, how the 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:01.040 Steelers were double teaming, if not triple teaming Chase and 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.400 why now he got some targets near the end of 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.400 the game when it didn't matter, But wondering why not 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:11.200 more to t Higgins and why not more to anybody 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.720 else if they're going to take away Chase. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.680 Well, let me say the first lap played in the 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.120 interior linement. So you know, I think he needs to 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:26.400 defer that to the pretty boy. But you know, that 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.160 sounds simple, but it really is. But typically, when you're 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.320 doubling a wide receiver of Jamar Chase's caliber, you're taking 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.640 your second and third guy and doubling that guy. You're 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.520 taking your best cornerback and put him on the second guy, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.640 and then you're taking your defense and you're shifting it 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.120 towards the second guy, and you're basically making someone else 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.360 beat you. And yes, the Higgins is more than capable 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.040 of doing that, But I don't think we could have 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.200 a realistic conversation and expect the offense and Jamar Chase 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.960 to have two hundred yards every single game. I think 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.160 that's terribly, terribly overvaluating what a offense can do weekend 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.600 and week out. So I think we have to lure 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.160 our expectations to say, Okay, yes, Jamar Chase is an 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.480 absolute wonderful player, great player, probably the best wide receiver 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.960 in the National Football League. But he's not going to 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.039 have two hundred yards every single game. Someone's going to 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.280 figure it out. Pittsburgh did. Hey, next week, he may 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.120 have his two hundred yards. But that's just the way 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.880 things works in the National Football league. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.479 Okay, walk me through when you're in the huddle. And 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.919 yesterday here the Bengals are down two scores in the game, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.560 We're already in the fourth quarter. They are facing a 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.400 fourth and inches inches to try and keep their hopes alive, 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:47.920 arguably their season alive. And when you huddle up, you're 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.839 telling everybody Joe Flacco is that, hey, look, don't jump, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.880 We're going to try to draw them off sides. What 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.080 are you thinking in the huddle when you hear that. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.839 Well, first of all, you know you're not very confident 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.880 when you're not when a coach doesn't bring in a 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.520 play that we're just it's going to be man versus man. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.680 Your faith is in us. So that's sends the message 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.000 right there, Okay, we don't want to trick you. If 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.760 you jump offside, that would be wonderful, but nevertheless, we're 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.160 ready to row. So it is kind of demoralizing, and 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.560 it does kind of make you think it's like, Okay, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.479 does the coach or coaches have enough confidence in us 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.440 that we can just you know, snap the ball and 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.599 get a yard, get an into whatever it takes. And 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.719 I think that is a very very delicate situation where 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.960 you know, the guys in the locker room, even myself 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.520 back in the day. You know, you don't want to 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.919 say it, but that's how you really feel inside. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.559 I just that whole sequence of events on that drive, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.279 to me, was basically the Bengals season in a nutshell. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.720 You didn't want to go for it on fourth and inches. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.159 Not only do you not go for it, you don't 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.520 draw the other team off sides, which was the goal, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:01.040 and then you spend a time out to punt. But 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.800 you know, I just the whole thing. To me, I 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.000 just sit there and look, obviously not all the issues 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.480 on this team have to do with coaching, but it 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.039 was just a sequence of events. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:12.680 It said to me. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.320 Can you imagine a guy coming in here this weekend, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.680 Mike Vrabel. Now, some of my people might say, well, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.600 Rabel's never coach a team to a super Bowl, and 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.120 they would be right. The Patriots had won nine in 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.880 a row. Can you imagine Mike Vrabel saying to his 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.640 team on fourth and inches, we're not going after this thing. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.520 You know, to Tom, one of the biggest questions I 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.960 have to answer your question is the fact that it 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.360 seems like Zach Taylor is making more fundamental coaching errors 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.360 this particular year than he's ever had. And it makes 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.920 me wonder if by not having Joe Burrow back, there 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.479 was Joe Burrow, or does Joe Burrow eliminate a lot 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.320 of the mental mistakes that maybe Zack has in this 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.560 cause or an offensive coordinator has in this call, or 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.960 does he convince them we're going for this, or does 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.240 he change the play and has that authority to do it, 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.680 because it has been mind boggling to me that some 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.560 of them, you know, you and I text during the 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.520 course of the games and we're going, what the hell 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:13.080 are they doing? 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:13.320 What? 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.320 Some of it is just so simple and so fundamental, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.200 and especially when you're three and six at the time, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.480 heading the three and seven, what the hell do you 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.240 have to lose? Go for it? And this is they 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.160 coach that does go for it most of the time. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.920 So yeah, it's some of the calls that has just 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.160 been made on the offensive side, as far as you 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.120 play calling, as far as the execution, is just absolutely 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:35.880 mind boggling. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.240 All right, help me with something here. I want to 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.280 get to two topics before you get out of here. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:45.880 Number one, you texted to me and we both agree 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.680 this season pretty much stick a fork in it. Okay, 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.160 you're three and seven and you got seven to go. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:57.000 What is the mindset for Let's say guys on defense, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.520 let's start there. What's their mindset now for the final 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.160 seven games. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.640 Well, individually, the defense has to look at themselves in 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.640 the mirror and say, am I going to be on 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.520 this team next year? Because you saw the fans saw 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.080 a defense without their best player yesterday and you saw 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.400 they still played okay, but you do not see any 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.440 really rising stars that you can go, oh man, we 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.760 can build around that set of or that group or 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.720 that individual. So from an individual standpoint, the guys got 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.080 to look in the mirror and go, Okay, if I'm 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.839 going to have a job here next year, potentially as 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.440 a starter, I got to step it up. I got 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.520 to play better. We have to play better, or you know, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.320 some hands are going to row and they start with 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.679 the defensive coordinator. But from a personnel standpoint, if I'm 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.079 one of those guys, I'm worried because right now, none 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.440 of them, I mean none of them are playing high 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:49.320 caliber football. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.719 Okay, let's walk through a couple of things here with 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:52.720 Jamar Chase. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.880 Have you seen a video. By the way, yes I did. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.320 Okay your thoughts well, if I. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.400 Have, Jalen Ramsey, I absolutely beat Jamar Chase's ass. I mean, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.760 playing and simple, no one spits on it. That is 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:13.440 the most disrespectful situation on a I won't even say 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.880 football field athletically. That is literally the worst thing you 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.200 can do is spat on somebody at that time or 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.680 you know, and then deny it. It was pretty obvious 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.480 and it's pretty sad, and you know it just now 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.600 when I look at that, we all make mistakes. He 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.679 made a mistake. Okay, fine, the game is super people 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.560 cannot even imagine how emotional. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:35.640 The game is. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.719 And sometimes you do lose your coup. I've been there, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.680 done that several times. So yeah, I mean, can you 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.760 recover from it. Absolutely, But it is literally the worst, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.559 most disrespectful thing a player can do to another players. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.400 And it's sad that the poor kid got kicked out 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.360 of the game for being spit on us. And it 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.600 was just absolutely just the wrong thing to do. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.040 All right, but you played against guys that were in 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.079 the quote unquote Jalen Ramsey mold and I made the 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.600 comment earlier. Look, he's the kind of guy that if 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.600 he's on your team, you love him. If he's on 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.199 the other team, you despise him. He has been a 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.920 really good player for a long long time, but of 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:22.600 course oftentimes his skills and his success are overshadowed by him, 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.080 you know, trash talking, wanting to get inside of people's heads. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.080 But tim isn't that sort of part of the game. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.120 If you're a cornerback and you're gonna go every play 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.800 toe to toe with some of the game's very very 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.839 best is to try to find a way to get 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.200 him off their game. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.359 Oh, there's no question about that. But Tom, that starts. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.120 At the little league level level. You're there are people 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.560 that's talking trash and is usually describing another word with 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:56.480 another word. But that's something you are totally one used to, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.280 you know that going into and not only is it, 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.720 does it exist now it becomes a motivating factor to 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.200 just shut that guy up and just give him the 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.319 look and talk trash back to him. So and Jamar Chase, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.640 come on, we know I mean Jamar Chase, And it 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.360 doesn't matter if he talks trash and I do you 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.320 know the guy was playing free and the reason he 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.920 was playing safety's coming called Jamar Chase eight him alive 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.960 the last game, So you know, yeah, emotional, got emotional, 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.640 got a part of it. But you know, even though 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.200 the guy is known for talking, he still he was 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.000 one hell of a cornerback and probably extending his career 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.160 by actually being a hell of a safety. And that 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.800 was another phenomenal move by Mike Tomlin. But you know, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.520 Jamar Chase, you got to keep this cool. And it happened, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.760 and you go home and you say I'm sorry, and 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.440 you just move. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:45.320 On from me. All right. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.720 Last thaying, I asked you about the guys on defense. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.080 You and I have talked about this because of the 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.520 woes of the offensive line and the defense and all 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.800 this kind of thing, Burrow getting hurt, on and on 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:59.400 and on and on. You know, the development of a 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.840 quote un quote third wide receiver with this franchise has 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:09.160 basically been nonexistent. I mean, Yoshi drops another pass yesterday. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.040 We talked about focusing on Higgins and Chase. I would 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.360 imagine that if you're one of those extra receivers, Tim, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.280 you better start getting it together like right now. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.719 I couldn't agree with that more because you have that 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:30.440 particular person, that particular position Tom has the easiest job 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.640 in the National Football League behind a backup quarterback. You 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.560 know why all the attention is going to te Higgins 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.480 and Jamar Jays. You're going to get some low level 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.000 player that's covering you. So the opportunity is going to 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.440 be there, and all you have to do is just 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.120 catch the ball. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:49.200 Get open, catch the ball. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.240 Because the quarterback knows and understand the defense is going 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.720 to rotate. They're gonna double them. Sometimes they're gonna double 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.800 both of them and just leave you on with a 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.720 safety or some like I said, some journey cornerback that 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.479 probably was working at Krogug last week. So the opportunities 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.480 are there, but no one has stepped up. And man, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.240 if I'm in that position, I'm sitting there going there 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.280 will never be a chance like it was this year, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:14.880 and they're probably going to replace me. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.240 You're spot on, all right, Tim, Thanks as always for 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.719 your time. You're the best, my friend. I hope you 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.120 have a great rest of your day and we'll catch 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:20.840 up next week. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.000 This is a Bloomberg money minute. Some of the most 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.559 popular weight loss drugs on the market are seeing price 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.640 drops today. Novo Nords as the price cuts are for 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.440 people paying directly for the drugs. The price for those 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.880 paying without insurance had been about five hundred bucks a 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.640 month for self paying patients. 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I thank god made it on time. It 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.000 was on time. Probably broke a few speed limit laws 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.680 along the way, but you got to do what you 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.920 got to do. I would imagine you watched the Bengals, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:10.400 or maybe you didn't get to watch it you were 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.320 driving back. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.040 Have you seen this Jamar? 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.760 I watched a lot of it on my phone. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.880 Okay, did you see the Jamar Chase video? I did 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:20.600 your thoughts. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.280 He spent on him. I felt thanks to any question 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:25.800 about it. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.760 I looked at it four or five times this morning 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.880 ahead of your call, and you can clearly see liquid 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.280 coming out of his mouth. I don't think there's any 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.359 question but that he spent on him. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.560 You know, we were talking with Tim again earlier. There. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.320 Look, there are things we can do in day to 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.280 day life. There are things you can do in the 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.120 course of a sporting event out on the field. Tim 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.760 just said a minute ago, it's without a doubt crossing 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.600 the most definitive line you can cross when you do 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.520 that to another person. I mean, it could be outside 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.120 of a bar, it could be on the football field 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.520 in this case with Jamar Chase, and the league's got 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.040 to come down on him, don't you agree? 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:14.640 Well, I mean they came down on Jalen Carter six 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.360 seconds into the twenty and twenty five baseball season when 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.880 he spit in the face of Dak Prescott, and he 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.520 was he suspended a game in one year. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.400 One game salary, which. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.680 For him was almost fifty eight thousand dollars. So the 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:35.200 president that has already been set this season. I don't 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.320 see how the NFL can do anything but replicate with 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.280 Jamar Chase what they did with Jalen Carter with the 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.640 Philadelphia Eagles. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.320 I don't see any. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.600 Other And I agree with him, McGee said. And you 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.000 know what, it bothered me a lot because I've had 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.440 such an image. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.240 Of Jamar Chase. I thought he was better than that. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.080 I really did. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.720 Now, you know, nobody anybody that agrees that he's spent 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:08.080 on him. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.200 I mean, looking at the video, I don't. I don't 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.600 think it's open to question. I'm just done that. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.480 Referee Bill Benovich said that they didn't see anything that 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.840 approach that level. I don't know what the heck he's 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.080 looking at, but. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:21.320 I'm just. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.879 You know, the Ramsy kid obviously has a track record 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.720 of being a dirty player. He's been, has had that 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.200 problem with other places he's been in the National Football League. Again, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:39.120 that doesn't justify what what did occur, And so yes, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.560 I agree the NFL has to. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:41.920 Come down on him very very hard. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.040 You and I started talking about this gambling situation, whether 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.719 it's baseball, and we know about the pitchers for the 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.840 Indians involved. They're going to court and they're both in big, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.520 big trouble, staring down the barrel at years in prison 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.760 for all this. We know about the situation, it's already 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.920 occurred in the NBA, and now all of a sudden, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.760 the league itself is going to teams and they are 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.840 demanding to see either it be emails or text messages 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:10.360 from employees. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:11.600 Cell phones. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.359 Yeah, cell phones and that kind of thinking phone calls. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.560 You know, it only makes me wonder, Dad, and we 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.520 talked about it last week. But man, oh man, if 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.359 the league is going to this extent, they must feel 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.640 like they are staring down the barrel at a major 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.440 problem more than they're sitting on right now. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.120 Well, I think the thing that is first and foremost 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.520 in the minds of the people directly involved with this 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:44.680 NBA thing also have to feel the same note of 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.440 concern in all the other major sports, and this includes 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.480 collegiate football and basketball, as well as all the professional sports. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.720 The almighty word that just jumps out at you from 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:03.000 a fan perspective is credible or the lack thereof. If 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.480 the fans of a sport are sports determined that it 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:11.000 is so racked with with gambling and cheating and everything 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.400 else under the sun, we don't. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:14.919 We can't. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.680 We can't if this sport no longer has any credibility, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.199 We can't trust them to go out and play a 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.560 clean game if that happens. Or you talk about an 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.840 industry having a major problem, and I think that's the 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.199 thing that they're trying to stem real, real quickly and 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.040 keep this thing from getting out of hand. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.399 But you know what, I can't believe. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.399 When they stook the billions and billions of dollars that 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.240 they've taken from the gambling industry, that nobody of any 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.720 position of prominence or power didn't stop and say, wait 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.880 a minute, now, you know we do we have any 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.399 clue as to where this might take this our sport 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.800 or sports, and apparently nobody cared. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.840 I want to ask you if you were a high 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.760 school principle. The big story today in Ohio is that 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.080 all of the principles are part of an emergency vote 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:09.760 in a referendum for nil as it pertains to high 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.439 school students. And all of this is on the lawsuit 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.320 filed by the family of Jamiir Brown. He's a great 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.080 wide receiver up at Wayne High School up around Dayton. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.000 He's already signed to play at Ohio State after his 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.720 high school career is over, and he's received offers for 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.880 endorsement deals of over one hundred thousand dollars. Now, these 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.639