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Speaker 2: We do it every morning after the Bengals play. We
Speaker 2: call it the Morning After, and kind enough to join
Speaker 2: us each in every week. Former Bengals star receiver and
Speaker 2: return man Tim McGee. Tim, thanks as always for your time,
Speaker 2: my friend. I don't know what else we can say.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the Chase stuff in a minute. But
Speaker 2: as far as play yesterday, I thought it was a
Speaker 2: coaching clinic by Mike Tomlin. He found the area of
Speaker 2: vulnerability in his defense when he played the Bengals a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, that being Jamar Chase, and he pretty
Speaker 2: much shut Chase down. Yesterday. I thought it was a
Speaker 2: coaching clinic from a great head coach.
Speaker 4: Not only was it a great or phenomenal coaching clinic.
Speaker 4: The fact that they didn't have all their main guns
Speaker 4: and they were still loaded and ready to go, and
Speaker 4: they were still able to execute. And that's just the
Speaker 4: genius of a Mike Tomlin. And if you want to
Speaker 4: know why he's been in Pittsburgh so long and had
Speaker 4: so much success and never had a losing season, now
Speaker 4: you're looking at the prototype head coach in the National
Speaker 4: Football League that the guy just knows whether you're doing
Speaker 4: and he's a motivator, and in my opinion, he's one.
Speaker 5: Of the best, if not the best. Ways.
Speaker 4: Sorry, help me help.
Speaker 2: Me with something here, Tim, because you you were a
Speaker 2: great player, you played with other great wide receivers. I
Speaker 2: heard Dave Lapham yesterday talking during the broadcast that he
Speaker 2: could not understand for the life of him, how the
Speaker 2: Steelers were double teaming, if not triple teaming Chase and
Speaker 2: why now he got some targets near the end of
Speaker 2: the game when it didn't matter, But wondering why not
Speaker 2: more to t Higgins and why not more to anybody
Speaker 2: else if they're going to take away Chase.
Speaker 4: Well, let me say the first lap played in the
Speaker 4: interior linement. So you know, I think he needs to
Speaker 4: defer that to the pretty boy. But you know, that
Speaker 4: sounds simple, but it really is. But typically, when you're
Speaker 4: doubling a wide receiver of Jamar Chase's caliber, you're taking
Speaker 4: your second and third guy and doubling that guy. You're
Speaker 4: taking your best cornerback and put him on the second guy,
Speaker 4: and then you're taking your defense and you're shifting it
Speaker 4: towards the second guy, and you're basically making someone else
Speaker 4: beat you. And yes, the Higgins is more than capable
Speaker 4: of doing that, But I don't think we could have
Speaker 4: a realistic conversation and expect the offense and Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: to have two hundred yards every single game. I think
Speaker 4: that's terribly, terribly overvaluating what a offense can do weekend
Speaker 4: and week out. So I think we have to lure
Speaker 4: our expectations to say, Okay, yes, Jamar Chase is an
Speaker 4: absolute wonderful player, great player, probably the best wide receiver
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. But he's not going to
Speaker 4: have two hundred yards every single game. Someone's going to
Speaker 4: figure it out. Pittsburgh did. Hey, next week, he may
Speaker 4: have his two hundred yards. But that's just the way
Speaker 4: things works in the National Football league.
Speaker 2: Okay, walk me through when you're in the huddle. And
Speaker 2: yesterday here the Bengals are down two scores in the game,
Speaker 2: We're already in the fourth quarter. They are facing a
Speaker 2: fourth and inches inches to try and keep their hopes alive,
Speaker 2: arguably their season alive. And when you huddle up, you're
Speaker 2: telling everybody Joe Flacco is that, hey, look, don't jump,
Speaker 2: We're going to try to draw them off sides. What
Speaker 2: are you thinking in the huddle when you hear that.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know you're not very confident
Speaker 4: when you're not when a coach doesn't bring in a
Speaker 4: play that we're just it's going to be man versus man.
Speaker 4: Your faith is in us. So that's sends the message
Speaker 4: right there, Okay, we don't want to trick you. If
Speaker 4: you jump offside, that would be wonderful, but nevertheless, we're
Speaker 4: ready to row. So it is kind of demoralizing, and
Speaker 4: it does kind of make you think it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: does the coach or coaches have enough confidence in us
Speaker 4: that we can just you know, snap the ball and
Speaker 4: get a yard, get an into whatever it takes. And
Speaker 4: I think that is a very very delicate situation where
Speaker 4: you know, the guys in the locker room, even myself
Speaker 4: back in the day. You know, you don't want to
Speaker 4: say it, but that's how you really feel inside.
Speaker 2: I just that whole sequence of events on that drive,
Speaker 2: to me, was basically the Bengals season in a nutshell.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to go for it on fourth and inches.
Speaker 2: Not only do you not go for it, you don't
Speaker 2: draw the other team off sides, which was the goal,
Speaker 2: and then you spend a time out to punt. But
Speaker 2: you know, I just the whole thing. To me, I
Speaker 2: just sit there and look, obviously not all the issues
Speaker 2: on this team have to do with coaching, but it
Speaker 2: was just a sequence of events.
Speaker 1: It said to me.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine a guy coming in here this weekend,
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel. Now, some of my people might say, well,
Speaker 2: Rabel's never coach a team to a super Bowl, and
Speaker 2: they would be right. The Patriots had won nine in
Speaker 2: a row. Can you imagine Mike Vrabel saying to his
Speaker 2: team on fourth and inches, we're not going after this thing.
Speaker 4: You know, to Tom, one of the biggest questions I
Speaker 4: have to answer your question is the fact that it
Speaker 4: seems like Zach Taylor is making more fundamental coaching errors
Speaker 4: this particular year than he's ever had. And it makes
Speaker 4: me wonder if by not having Joe Burrow back, there
Speaker 4: was Joe Burrow, or does Joe Burrow eliminate a lot
Speaker 4: of the mental mistakes that maybe Zack has in this
Speaker 4: cause or an offensive coordinator has in this call, or
Speaker 4: does he convince them we're going for this, or does
Speaker 4: he change the play and has that authority to do it,
Speaker 4: because it has been mind boggling to me that some
Speaker 4: of them, you know, you and I text during the
Speaker 4: course of the games and we're going, what the hell
Speaker 4: are they doing?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: Some of it is just so simple and so fundamental,
Speaker 4: and especially when you're three and six at the time,
Speaker 4: heading the three and seven, what the hell do you
Speaker 4: have to lose? Go for it? And this is they
Speaker 4: coach that does go for it most of the time.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's some of the calls that has just
Speaker 4: been made on the offensive side, as far as you
Speaker 4: play calling, as far as the execution, is just absolutely
Speaker 4: mind boggling.
Speaker 2: All right, help me with something here. I want to
Speaker 2: get to two topics before you get out of here.
Speaker 2: Number one, you texted to me and we both agree
Speaker 2: this season pretty much stick a fork in it. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're three and seven and you got seven to go.
Speaker 2: What is the mindset for Let's say guys on defense,
Speaker 2: let's start there. What's their mindset now for the final
Speaker 2: seven games.
Speaker 4: Well, individually, the defense has to look at themselves in
Speaker 4: the mirror and say, am I going to be on
Speaker 4: this team next year? Because you saw the fans saw
Speaker 4: a defense without their best player yesterday and you saw
Speaker 4: they still played okay, but you do not see any
Speaker 4: really rising stars that you can go, oh man, we
Speaker 4: can build around that set of or that group or
Speaker 4: that individual. So from an individual standpoint, the guys got
Speaker 4: to look in the mirror and go, Okay, if I'm
Speaker 4: going to have a job here next year, potentially as
Speaker 4: a starter, I got to step it up. I got
Speaker 4: to play better. We have to play better, or you know,
Speaker 4: some hands are going to row and they start with
Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator. But from a personnel standpoint, if I'm
Speaker 4: one of those guys, I'm worried because right now, none
Speaker 4: of them, I mean none of them are playing high
Speaker 4: caliber football.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's walk through a couple of things here with
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: Have you seen a video. By the way, yes I did.
Speaker 1: Okay your thoughts well, if I.
Speaker 4: Have, Jalen Ramsey, I absolutely beat Jamar Chase's ass. I mean,
Speaker 4: playing and simple, no one spits on it. That is
Speaker 4: the most disrespectful situation on a I won't even say
Speaker 4: football field athletically. That is literally the worst thing you
Speaker 4: can do is spat on somebody at that time or
Speaker 4: you know, and then deny it. It was pretty obvious
Speaker 4: and it's pretty sad, and you know it just now
Speaker 4: when I look at that, we all make mistakes. He
Speaker 4: made a mistake. Okay, fine, the game is super people
Speaker 4: cannot even imagine how emotional.
Speaker 5: The game is.
Speaker 4: And sometimes you do lose your coup. I've been there,
Speaker 4: done that several times. So yeah, I mean, can you
Speaker 4: recover from it. Absolutely, But it is literally the worst,
Speaker 4: most disrespectful thing a player can do to another players.
Speaker 4: And it's sad that the poor kid got kicked out
Speaker 4: of the game for being spit on us. And it
Speaker 4: was just absolutely just the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2: All right, but you played against guys that were in
Speaker 2: the quote unquote Jalen Ramsey mold and I made the
Speaker 2: comment earlier. Look, he's the kind of guy that if
Speaker 2: he's on your team, you love him. If he's on
Speaker 2: the other team, you despise him. He has been a
Speaker 2: really good player for a long long time, but of
Speaker 2: course oftentimes his skills and his success are overshadowed by him,
Speaker 2: you know, trash talking, wanting to get inside of people's heads.
Speaker 2: But tim isn't that sort of part of the game.
Speaker 2: If you're a cornerback and you're gonna go every play
Speaker 2: toe to toe with some of the game's very very
Speaker 2: best is to try to find a way to get
Speaker 2: him off their game.
Speaker 5: Oh, there's no question about that. But Tom, that starts.
Speaker 4: At the little league level level. You're there are people
Speaker 4: that's talking trash and is usually describing another word with
Speaker 4: another word. But that's something you are totally one used to,
Speaker 4: you know that going into and not only is it,
Speaker 4: does it exist now it becomes a motivating factor to
Speaker 4: just shut that guy up and just give him the
Speaker 4: look and talk trash back to him. So and Jamar Chase,
Speaker 4: come on, we know I mean Jamar Chase, And it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if he talks trash and I do you
Speaker 4: know the guy was playing free and the reason he
Speaker 4: was playing safety's coming called Jamar Chase eight him alive
Speaker 4: the last game, So you know, yeah, emotional, got emotional,
Speaker 4: got a part of it. But you know, even though
Speaker 4: the guy is known for talking, he still he was
Speaker 4: one hell of a cornerback and probably extending his career
Speaker 4: by actually being a hell of a safety. And that
Speaker 4: was another phenomenal move by Mike Tomlin. But you know,
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, you got to keep this cool. And it happened,
Speaker 4: and you go home and you say I'm sorry, and
Speaker 4: you just move.
Speaker 5: On from me. All right.
Speaker 2: Last thaying, I asked you about the guys on defense.
Speaker 2: You and I have talked about this because of the
Speaker 2: woes of the offensive line and the defense and all
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, Burrow getting hurt, on and on
Speaker 2: and on and on. You know, the development of a
Speaker 2: quote un quote third wide receiver with this franchise has
Speaker 2: basically been nonexistent. I mean, Yoshi drops another pass yesterday.
Speaker 2: We talked about focusing on Higgins and Chase. I would
Speaker 2: imagine that if you're one of those extra receivers, Tim,
Speaker 2: you better start getting it together like right now.
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with that more because you have that
Speaker 4: particular person, that particular position Tom has the easiest job
Speaker 4: in the National Football League behind a backup quarterback. You
Speaker 4: know why all the attention is going to te Higgins
Speaker 4: and Jamar Jays. You're going to get some low level
Speaker 4: player that's covering you. So the opportunity is going to
Speaker 4: be there, and all you have to do is just
Speaker 4: catch the ball.
Speaker 5: Get open, catch the ball.
Speaker 4: Because the quarterback knows and understand the defense is going
Speaker 4: to rotate. They're gonna double them. Sometimes they're gonna double
Speaker 4: both of them and just leave you on with a
Speaker 4: safety or some like I said, some journey cornerback that
Speaker 4: probably was working at Krogug last week. So the opportunities
Speaker 4: are there, but no one has stepped up. And man,
Speaker 4: if I'm in that position, I'm sitting there going there
Speaker 4: will never be a chance like it was this year,
Speaker 4: and they're probably going to replace me.
Speaker 2: You're spot on, all right, Tim, Thanks as always for
Speaker 2: your time. You're the best, my friend. I hope you
Speaker 2: have a great rest of your day and we'll catch
Speaker 2: up next week.
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Speaker 2: Alright, eight forty two on the Morning show seven undred WLW.
Speaker 2: We do it every Monday. We call it Mondays with
Speaker 2: Martin Hall of Famer Marty Brennan. You are back in
Speaker 2: since and that to OHIOH is that right?
Speaker 5: That is correct? Got back last night?
Speaker 1: Did you drive back?
Speaker 5: Yep? Yeah, yes, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Well glad you made it safe. Glad you made it safe.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Hey.
Speaker 2: I would imagine you got your plan. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 2: made it. I thank god made it on time. It
Speaker 2: was on time. Probably broke a few speed limit laws
Speaker 2: along the way, but you got to do what you
Speaker 2: got to do. I would imagine you watched the Bengals,
Speaker 2: or maybe you didn't get to watch it you were
Speaker 2: driving back.
Speaker 1: Have you seen this Jamar?
Speaker 5: I watched a lot of it on my phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you see the Jamar Chase video? I did
Speaker 2: your thoughts.
Speaker 5: He spent on him. I felt thanks to any question
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 7: I looked at it four or five times this morning
Speaker 7: ahead of your call, and you can clearly see liquid
Speaker 7: coming out of his mouth. I don't think there's any
Speaker 7: question but that he spent on him.
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking with Tim again earlier. There.
Speaker 2: Look, there are things we can do in day to
Speaker 2: day life. There are things you can do in the
Speaker 2: course of a sporting event out on the field. Tim
Speaker 2: just said a minute ago, it's without a doubt crossing
Speaker 2: the most definitive line you can cross when you do
Speaker 2: that to another person. I mean, it could be outside
Speaker 2: of a bar, it could be on the football field
Speaker 2: in this case with Jamar Chase, and the league's got
Speaker 2: to come down on him, don't you agree?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean they came down on Jalen Carter six
Speaker 7: seconds into the twenty and twenty five baseball season when
Speaker 7: he spit in the face of Dak Prescott, and he
Speaker 7: was he suspended a game in one year.
Speaker 5: One game salary, which.
Speaker 7: For him was almost fifty eight thousand dollars. So the
Speaker 7: president that has already been set this season. I don't
Speaker 7: see how the NFL can do anything but replicate with
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase what they did with Jalen Carter with the
Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5: I don't see any.
Speaker 7: Other And I agree with him, McGee said. And you
Speaker 7: know what, it bothered me a lot because I've had
Speaker 7: such an image.
Speaker 5: Of Jamar Chase. I thought he was better than that.
Speaker 5: I really did.
Speaker 7: Now, you know, nobody anybody that agrees that he's spent
Speaker 7: on him.
Speaker 5: I mean, looking at the video, I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: think it's open to question. I'm just done that.
Speaker 7: Referee Bill Benovich said that they didn't see anything that
Speaker 7: approach that level. I don't know what the heck he's
Speaker 7: looking at, but.
Speaker 5: I'm just.
Speaker 7: You know, the Ramsy kid obviously has a track record
Speaker 7: of being a dirty player. He's been, has had that
Speaker 7: problem with other places he's been in the National Football League. Again,
Speaker 7: that doesn't justify what what did occur, And so yes,
Speaker 7: I agree the NFL has to.
Speaker 5: Come down on him very very hard.
Speaker 2: You and I started talking about this gambling situation, whether
Speaker 2: it's baseball, and we know about the pitchers for the
Speaker 2: Indians involved. They're going to court and they're both in big,
Speaker 2: big trouble, staring down the barrel at years in prison
Speaker 2: for all this. We know about the situation, it's already
Speaker 2: occurred in the NBA, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the league itself is going to teams and they are
Speaker 2: demanding to see either it be emails or text messages
Speaker 2: from employees.
Speaker 5: Cell phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cell phones and that kind of thinking phone calls.
Speaker 2: You know, it only makes me wonder, Dad, and we
Speaker 2: talked about it last week. But man, oh man, if
Speaker 2: the league is going to this extent, they must feel
Speaker 2: like they are staring down the barrel at a major
Speaker 2: problem more than they're sitting on right now.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the thing that is first and foremost
Speaker 7: in the minds of the people directly involved with this
Speaker 7: NBA thing also have to feel the same note of
Speaker 7: concern in all the other major sports, and this includes
Speaker 7: collegiate football and basketball, as well as all the professional sports.
Speaker 7: The almighty word that just jumps out at you from
Speaker 7: a fan perspective is credible or the lack thereof. If
Speaker 7: the fans of a sport are sports determined that it
Speaker 7: is so racked with with gambling and cheating and everything
Speaker 7: else under the sun, we don't.
Speaker 5: We can't.
Speaker 7: We can't if this sport no longer has any credibility,
Speaker 7: We can't trust them to go out and play a
Speaker 7: clean game if that happens. Or you talk about an
Speaker 7: industry having a major problem, and I think that's the
Speaker 7: thing that they're trying to stem real, real quickly and
Speaker 7: keep this thing from getting out of hand.
Speaker 5: But you know what, I can't believe.
Speaker 7: When they stook the billions and billions of dollars that
Speaker 7: they've taken from the gambling industry, that nobody of any
Speaker 7: position of prominence or power didn't stop and say, wait
Speaker 7: a minute, now, you know we do we have any
Speaker 7: clue as to where this might take this our sport
Speaker 7: or sports, and apparently nobody cared.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you if you were a high
Speaker 2: school principle. The big story today in Ohio is that
Speaker 2: all of the principles are part of an emergency vote
Speaker 2: in a referendum for nil as it pertains to high
Speaker 2: school students. And all of this is on the lawsuit
Speaker 2: filed by the family of Jamiir Brown. He's a great
Speaker 2: wide receiver up at Wayne High School up around Dayton.
Speaker 2: He's already signed to play at Ohio State after his
Speaker 2: high school career is over, and he's received offers for
Speaker 2: endorsement deals of over one hundred thousand dollars. Now, these
Speaker 2: are not schools paying these kids. These are companies that
Speaker 2: are paying these kids. If you were a principal and
Speaker 2: had to vote, how would you vote.
Speaker 5: A question tom, I mean, you know.
Speaker 7: I would I mean from an idealistic standpoint, I would
Speaker 7: vote no.
Speaker 5: Idealistically because that's where you want.
Speaker 7: All this to continue to be pure and playing for
Speaker 7: the love of the game and loyal to the end
Speaker 7: of the world that no longer is in place in
Speaker 7: collegiate football and basketball and all the other sports.
Speaker 5: They're paying these guys.
Speaker 7: But if you vote no and all the rest of
Speaker 7: you guys vote yes, it's going to be there whether
Speaker 7: or not you vote yes or no.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I gotta believe that. Well, when did the vote
Speaker 5: is this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to get I guess there's eight or
Speaker 2: nine hundred principles and so forth. And you know, those
Speaker 2: on the pro side are saying, way now, there's already
Speaker 2: like twenty eight states, including all the other big ones
Speaker 2: like Ohio, that have this kind of thing. It's not
Speaker 2: a case where the schools are paying them, unlike the
Speaker 2: college game. You know, I'd be like some kid out
Speaker 2: your Wayne Anderson who you know, Joe blows bar and
Speaker 2: Grill wants to pay this kid money for an nil deal,
Speaker 2: and so they pay them money.
Speaker 7: Yeah right, Well, then again, then again you have to
Speaker 7: ask your question. If they vote yes and this thing
Speaker 7: goes into effect, are you going to see the same
Speaker 7: wild transfers in high school football and basketball that you
Speaker 7: do in the end in the NCAA where university number
Speaker 7: four pays a guy, a number one pays of guy,
Speaker 7: you know, three hundred thousand dollars a year, and University
Speaker 7: number two wants to get him to jump and they'll
Speaker 7: pay him six hundred thousand. Are you going to see
Speaker 7: that type of movement among high school players that you're
Speaker 7: seeing in the college rights today? I mean, just voting
Speaker 7: yes or no. Voting yes they put it into place
Speaker 7: is just a tip of the iceberg, and then you
Speaker 7: have wild movement among players. I'm just not a fan,
Speaker 7: and I understand, in its infinite lack of wisdom, the
Speaker 7: NCAA to begin was the most worthless.
Speaker 5: Organization that God ever put on this earth.
Speaker 7: They do not do one good thing unless they're backed
Speaker 7: up against a wall.
Speaker 5: And they have to do it.
Speaker 7: It'd be interesting to see where this whole thing could
Speaker 7: have gone, way back when that kid from UCLA took
Speaker 7: it to court and the court finally, after a number
Speaker 7: of years, said yes, you should be paid for what.
Speaker 5: You do at a school. And that's how the NIL
Speaker 5: came into existence. The NCAA thought they were going to win.
Speaker 7: They were arrogant about it, and they figured, we can
Speaker 7: win this thing. We're not going to settle. Had they
Speaker 7: gone to the table and settle, it might not be
Speaker 7: as bad as it is today might have been, but
Speaker 7: it might not have been.
Speaker 1: All Right, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I got to tell you, I'm convinced the more
Speaker 2: and more time goes by, and I was with you
Speaker 2: on most of this, but the more and more I
Speaker 2: do games at places of schools in the NCAA. Let's say,
Speaker 2: wait for us, for example, I had them over the weekend.
Speaker 2: They're seven and three this year. They're having a great year.
Speaker 2: Are they going to play in the college football playoffs?
Speaker 1: No, they're not.
Speaker 2: But do I think that NIL has been good for
Speaker 2: more than just the big boys. I do, because I
Speaker 2: think they're getting some kids that aren't playing at other
Speaker 2: places to come to their school. And these kids want
Speaker 2: a chance to play pro football, in this case one day,
Speaker 2: and they're getting a chance to finally play instead of
Speaker 2: just riding in the bench at Ohio State or Alabama
Speaker 2: or Georgia or wherever.
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
Speaker 7: Disagree with that, but I think you had kids moving
Speaker 7: way before the NIO came. Tak Joe Burrow, who's the
Speaker 7: best example on God's Earth. You know, he left Ohio
Speaker 7: State and went to LSU, and we all know what
Speaker 7: happened there.
Speaker 5: So it's just not just because of the.
Speaker 7: Nil it's more prevalent obviously because money's involved. But then
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with what you say, but you have
Speaker 7: kids that slip through the cracks all the time. They're
Speaker 7: coming out of high school. We're not good enough to
Speaker 7: play at a high Division I school, and all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, the maturity sets in and they've become the
Speaker 7: player after a year or so that they weren't coming out.
Speaker 5: Of high school. And I agree. I think wake For
Speaker 5: is a great example of they've had a very, very
Speaker 5: good year. We'll go to a bowl game.
Speaker 7: Definitely not in the playoff, but they certainly had a
Speaker 7: nice year, along with a lot of other schools of
Speaker 7: that type.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, I hope you have a great rest
Speaker 2: of your day. Thanks as always for the time, Dad,
Speaker 2: love you. I hope you have a great
Speaker 5: Day, all right, Bude, and enjoy it, Okay,