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Speaker 2: Monica Ritch joins us from the Bloomberg newsroom in New

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Speaker 2: York City. Apparently we're going to start getting some official

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Speaker 3: Yes, federal agencies will start working through a backlog of

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Speaker 3: reports now, including September's job figures this week, which will

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Speaker 3: This is all according to the Wall Street Journal, which

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Speaker 3: says companies like Google and Video and SpaceX are all

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Speaker 1: Okay, well sounds good. The futures this morning.

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Speaker 3: They are mixed this morning, but pretty much unchanged ahead

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Speaker 3: of a busy trading week. Dow futures down forty points,

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Speaker 1: I'm Monica Rix.

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Speaker 3: On news radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: OK eight ten on the Morning show seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: We do it every morning after the Bengals play. We

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Speaker 2: call it the Morning After, and kind enough to join

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Speaker 2: us each in every week. Former Bengals star receiver and

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Speaker 2: return man Tim McGee. Tim, thanks as always for your time,

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Speaker 2: my friend. I don't know what else we can say.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the Chase stuff in a minute. But

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Speaker 2: as far as play yesterday, I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: coaching clinic by Mike Tomlin. He found the area of

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago, that being Jamar Chase, and he pretty

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Speaker 2: much shut Chase down. Yesterday. I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: coaching clinic from a great head coach.

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Speaker 4: Not only was it a great or phenomenal coaching clinic.

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Speaker 4: The fact that they didn't have all their main guns

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Speaker 4: they were still able to execute. And that's just the

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Speaker 4: genius of a Mike Tomlin. And if you want to

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Speaker 4: know why he's been in Pittsburgh so long and had

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Speaker 4: you're looking at the prototype head coach in the National

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Speaker 4: Football League that the guy just knows whether you're doing

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Speaker 4: and he's a motivator, and in my opinion, he's one.

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Speaker 5: Of the best, if not the best. Ways.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, help me help.

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Speaker 2: Me with something here, Tim, because you you were a

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Speaker 2: great player, you played with other great wide receivers. I

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Speaker 2: heard Dave Lapham yesterday talking during the broadcast that he

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Speaker 4: Well, let me say the first lap played in the

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know you're not very confident

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Speaker 2: I just that whole sequence of events on that drive,

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to go for it on fourth and inches.

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Speaker 4: You know, to Tom, one of the biggest questions I

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Speaker 4: Some of it is just so simple and so fundamental,

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Speaker 4: have to lose? Go for it? And this is they

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's some of the calls that has just

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Speaker 2: All right, help me with something here. I want to

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Speaker 2: get to two topics before you get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Number one, you texted to me and we both agree

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Speaker 2: you're three and seven and you got seven to go.

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Speaker 2: What is the mindset for Let's say guys on defense,

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Speaker 4: Well, individually, the defense has to look at themselves in

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Speaker 1: Have you seen a video. By the way, yes I did.

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Speaker 4: Have, Jalen Ramsey, I absolutely beat Jamar Chase's ass. I mean,

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Speaker 4: playing and simple, no one spits on it. That is

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Speaker 4: when I look at that, we all make mistakes. He

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Speaker 4: And sometimes you do lose your coup. I've been there,

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Speaker 4: recover from it. Absolutely, But it is literally the worst,

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Speaker 4: most disrespectful thing a player can do to another players.

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Speaker 4: And it's sad that the poor kid got kicked out

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Speaker 2: All right, but you played against guys that were in

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Speaker 2: the quote unquote Jalen Ramsey mold and I made the

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Speaker 2: But tim isn't that sort of part of the game.

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Speaker 2: If you're a cornerback and you're gonna go every play

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Speaker 2: toe to toe with some of the game's very very

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's no question about that. But Tom, that starts.

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Speaker 4: At the little league level level. You're there are people

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Speaker 4: that's talking trash and is usually describing another word with

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Speaker 4: you know that going into and not only is it,

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Speaker 2: Alright, eight forty two on the Morning show seven undred WLW.

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Speaker 2: We do it every Monday. We call it Mondays with

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Speaker 5: That is correct? Got back last night?

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Speaker 5: Thank you. Hey.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this Jamar?

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Speaker 5: I watched a lot of it on my phone.

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Speaker 5: He spent on him. I felt thanks to any question

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Speaker 7: I looked at it four or five times this morning

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Speaker 2: Look, there are things we can do in day to

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean they came down on Jalen Carter six

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Speaker 5: I don't see any.

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Speaker 7: You know, the Ramsy kid obviously has a track record

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Speaker 7: The almighty word that just jumps out at you from

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Speaker 7: We can't if this sport no longer has any credibility,

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Speaker 5: A question tom, I mean, you know.

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Speaker 5: Idealistically because that's where you want.

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Speaker 5: They're paying these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to get I guess there's eight or

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Speaker 7: have wild movement among players. I'm just not a fan,

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Speaker 7: and I understand, in its infinite lack of wisdom, the

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Speaker 7: NCAA to begin was the most worthless.

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Speaker 5: Organization that God ever put on this earth.

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Speaker 7: They do not do one good thing unless they're backed

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Speaker 5: And they have to do it.

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Speaker 7: It'd be interesting to see where this whole thing could

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Speaker 7: have gone, way back when that kid from UCLA took

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Speaker 7: it to court and the court finally, after a number

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Speaker 7: of years, said yes, you should be paid for what.

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Speaker 5: You do at a school. And that's how the NIL

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Speaker 5: came into existence. The NCAA thought they were going to win.

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Speaker 7: They were arrogant about it, and they figured, we can

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Speaker 7: win this thing. We're not going to settle. Had they

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Speaker 7: gone to the table and settle, it might not be

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Speaker 7: as bad as it is today might have been, but

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Speaker 7: it might not have been.

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Speaker 1: All Right, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I got to tell you, I'm convinced the more

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Speaker 2: and more time goes by, and I was with you

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Speaker 2: on most of this, but the more and more I

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Speaker 2: do games at places of schools in the NCAA. Let's say,

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Speaker 2: wait for us, for example, I had them over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: They're seven and three this year. They're having a great year.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to play in the college football playoffs?

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Speaker 1: No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: But do I think that NIL has been good for

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Speaker 2: more than just the big boys. I do, because I

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Speaker 2: think they're getting some kids that aren't playing at other

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Speaker 2: places to come to their school. And these kids want

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Speaker 2: a chance to play pro football, in this case one day,

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Speaker 2: and they're getting a chance to finally play instead of

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Speaker 2: just riding in the bench at Ohio State or Alabama

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Speaker 2: or Georgia or wherever.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Disagree with that, but I think you had kids moving

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Speaker 7: way before the NIO came. Tak Joe Burrow, who's the

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Speaker 7: best example on God's Earth. You know, he left Ohio

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Speaker 7: State and went to LSU, and we all know what

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Speaker 7: happened there.

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Speaker 5: So it's just not just because of the.

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Speaker 7: Nil it's more prevalent obviously because money's involved. But then

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Speaker 7: I don't disagree with what you say, but you have

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Speaker 7: kids that slip through the cracks all the time. They're

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Speaker 7: coming out of high school. We're not good enough to

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Speaker 7: play at a high Division I school, and all of

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Speaker 7: a sudden, the maturity sets in and they've become the

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Speaker 7: player after a year or so that they weren't coming out.

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Speaker 5: Of high school. And I agree. I think wake For

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Speaker 5: is a great example of they've had a very, very

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Speaker 5: good year. We'll go to a bowl game.

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Speaker 7: Definitely not in the playoff, but they certainly had a

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Speaker 7: nice year, along with a lot of other schools of

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Speaker 7: that type.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, I hope you have a great rest

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Speaker 2: of your day. Thanks as always for the time, Dad,

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Speaker 2: love you. I hope you have a great

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Speaker 5: Day, all right, Bude, and enjoy it, Okay,