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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in again for Scott Sloan.

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Speaker 1: Happy to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be outdoors today, man, that is brutal.

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's the current temperature, but eighteen degrees

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Speaker 2: I mean we were like mid sixties. It's typical Cincinnati weather.

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Speaker 2: It's the reason why I think everybody gets sick here.

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Speaker 2: We got a great show for you today. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit again about the Minnesota situation.

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Speaker 2: It is the grift that keeps on giving. At nine

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Speaker 2: point thirty, we're going to talk to Todd Sheets. He's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about President Trump's National Security Survey. Really

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Speaker 2: raised a lot of eyes when that came out, and

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Speaker 2: Todd has done a deep dive on it, and we'll

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this.

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Speaker 2: Dan Horne, reporter, great reporter, longtime reporter for the Cincinnati Enquirer,

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Speaker 2: did a really good piece on the kind of change

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Speaker 2: in religious feelings in the country, and it's also demographically

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Speaker 2: was able to break down Greater Cincinnati, so we'll see

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Speaker 2: how we compare with the rest of the country. At

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, Christopher Smithman, former Vice mayor of the City

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, always always has something interesting to say men.

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Speaker 1: At eleven thirty J.

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Speaker 2: Ratliffe, aviation expert. We're going to talk to him, kind

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Speaker 2: of get an idea where we are travel wise, and

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Speaker 2: some other things that happened in the year twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five in aviation. But first, the drum beat continues in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: As I said, it is the grift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: We have not heard the last of it.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I talk a lot about it. Reason I do, because

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Speaker 2: it's a big story, one of the biggest. I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen this thing already, and again I've probably about that

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Speaker 2: million times I've said this. We've only scratched the service already.

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Speaker 2: I think, without question. It is the biggest scandal money wise,

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Speaker 2: are probably otherwise in this country's history. And again it's

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Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg. Just a couple recent

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Speaker 2: developments federal funding pause. Boy, the federal government now the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration is kind of circling the wagons on this thing.

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Speaker 2: And the FBI yesterday Cashpateel, he confirmed that the bureau

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Speaker 2: tell you, the FBI's had their ups and downs, but

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Speaker 2: they are still, without questioning, the best law enforcement investigative

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Speaker 2: agency in the world in my humble opinion. So it's

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Speaker 2: not only me that says just the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 2: Cashpateel said, it's just the tip of a very large

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Speaker 2: iceberg and stated that the FBI began this surge even

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Speaker 2: before the issue gained widespread social media attention. The SBA administrator,

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Speaker 2: Kelly Leffler, she announced, I think it was yesterday pause

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Speaker 2: on annual funding to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I think probably a smart move.

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Speaker 2: This freeze includes over five point five million bucks in

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Speaker 2: annual support to resource partners while the agency investigates are

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Speaker 2: you ready for this and estimated four hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: million dollars in suspected paycheck Protection Program PPP fraud across

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Speaker 2: the state. And you know, of all the COVID related giveaways,

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Speaker 2: And Homeland Security agents were reported in Minneapolis yesterday conducting

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Speaker 2: a massive investigation into the rampant fraud. That includes reviewing

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Speaker 1: So it's going and it's going to keep continue.

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Speaker 2: Reports on December twenty ninth, just yesterday, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It really is how you're the governor of the state,

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Speaker 2: As of late December twenty twenty five, at least ninety

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Speaker 2: But something that I heard yesterday, it's just unbelievable. I

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Speaker 3: The question is, you know, why is this a priority?

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Speaker 3: In a different kind of way, the politicization of the

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Speaker 3: reliable narrators is the big question. And this is what

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Speaker 3: the American people are right to ask the question, well,

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Speaker 3: say as an American. Let's recall too that there's also

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Speaker 3: other scandals in other states, for example, the Mississippi welfare scandal,

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Speaker 1: Americans know that. Of course.

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Speaker 3: The other factor here is that because it looks like

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Speaker 3: have been at some involved in some way, these people

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Speaker 3: are being scapegoated, and that community is being scapegoaded in

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Speaker 3: that's also something to keep an eye on, and that's inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely can you believe that? I mean really, can you?

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Speaker 2: and she says that that the Somali community are being scapegoaded.

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Speaker 2: Ninety eight people charged in this thing, eighty five of

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Speaker 2: It's just these people. I've always wondered, Still haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: What does that tell you? Are you allowed to make

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it. A lot of other people are doing

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Speaker 2: it too. Does it mean that every person of Somalian

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Speaker 2: And she said, this is another one. You know, if

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Speaker 2: She talks about weaponizing and politicizing the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to do some research on what

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Speaker 2: she has said, miss Gay publicly, to see if she

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Speaker 2: By the way, the administration who invented and perfected weaponizing

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Speaker 1: You know, they seem to forget that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the situation with the judge. One of

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Speaker 2: Hennepin County Judge Sarah West. Okay, here's what she did.

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Speaker 2: is extremely rare for a judge to say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: So by God, I'm gonna do it for you. Is

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Speaker 2: it legal? Yes in Minnesota, Yes, in Ohio, probably every state.

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Speaker 2: I'm not certain though, however, extremely rare that that happens.

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Speaker 1: It should not have happened.

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Speaker 2: And I hope someone is putting her under a microscope

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Speaker 2: you probably know who Andy McCarthy is. He's a former

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Speaker 2: US assistant attorney. He's always on Fox News. He said

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Speaker 2: underscoring just what I just said, underscoring how exceptional the

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Speaker 2: That's what he told Fox News, noting that a judge

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Speaker 2: It was an op ed piece that and it was

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Speaker 5: And it's also very important, and this is something that

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Speaker 5: many critics have either missed or outright light about in

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Speaker 5: talking about the National Security strategy. The Strategy report specifically says,

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Speaker 5: we need to make sure that no hostile, aggressive company

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Speaker 5: or country excuse me, comes to dominate any of the

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Speaker 5: major regions of the world.

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Speaker 7: We need to keep a.

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Speaker 4: Balance of power.

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Speaker 5: So they're effectively saying, we're not going to allow Russia

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Speaker 5: to go too far with this. You know, we can't

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Speaker 5: play the leading and the first responder role, but we

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Speaker 5: will pay play a role that prevents Russia from gradually

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Speaker 5: taking over too much of Europe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to ask you. I mean, because you

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Speaker 2: pay attention to these things. Is there any thought that

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Speaker 2: the Russian citizens will say at some point enough and

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Speaker 2: get his ass out of there? Does anybody see that

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Speaker 2: or is that something that is just not going to happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he has been able to maintain his

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Speaker 5: power for a long time.

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Speaker 7: I think he's.

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Speaker 5: Vastly overstepped his boundaries with the Ukraine War, and that's

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Speaker 5: one of the reasons why he is so unwilling to

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Speaker 5: back down and make a peaceful settlement. That doesn't give

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Speaker 5: him enough to be able to show his country that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the last four years and these hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 5: deaths were worth it, and that's the big problem. But

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Speaker 5: I have to think, you know, at some point, the

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Speaker 5: patience of the Russian people is going to give out.

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Speaker 5: Their economy is in a very bad shape, is in

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Speaker 5: very bad condition. They've lost all these people, they have

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Speaker 5: not been able to accomplish very much with the war,

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Speaker 5: and so you know, I'm actually of the opinion that

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Speaker 5: as long as Ukraine wants to continue fighting, you know,

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Speaker 5: and we're not putting our own people over there and

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Speaker 5: risking their lives, and we're selling weapons to help them

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Speaker 5: do it, I'm in favor of that because I think

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Speaker 5: at some point then, you know, Putin's going to have

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Speaker 5: to face up to his people. They can't go on

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Speaker 5: like this forever.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I saw those figures and just astounding. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: lost fifty thousand, I believe in the Vietnam War. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about some people's estimates ten times that we

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Speaker 2: only have a few minutes left. And I probably should

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Speaker 2: have asked you about this a little earlier because it's

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Speaker 2: extremely important communists China. Trump has been pretty good his

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Speaker 2: administration about beeping up Taiwan. I think we just sold

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Speaker 2: them a bunch of new jets. I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: the strategy with respect to China, or at least part

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Speaker 2: of it, make Taiwan, which is microscopic compared to red China.

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Speaker 2: You know in geography, is that pretty much as you

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Speaker 2: see a todd the strategy to make sure that we

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Speaker 2: take care of our ally Taiwan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the same thing we.

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Speaker 5: Were just talking about, where we can't allow any hostile

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Speaker 5: country to dominate any region of the world world. It

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Speaker 5: applies even more so to China, Taiwan, and Asia than

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Speaker 5: it does to Europe at this point in time, given

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Speaker 5: the size and.

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Speaker 7: Threat that China poses.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's also very important to remember Trump in.

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Speaker 5: His first term is the one who finally started dealing

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Speaker 5: with the rise of China by imposing the first round

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Speaker 5: of tariffs on them. So the first round of tariffs

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Speaker 5: and Trump one point zero, what he's proposing to the

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Speaker 5: increases that they're pushing through right now in Trump two

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Speaker 5: point zero, and the document very specifically states that, you know,

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Speaker 5: we cannot allow anyone to dominate the South China seas

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Speaker 5: and the shipping channels there, because too much of the

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Speaker 5: world's commerce needs to flow through those channels, and we

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Speaker 5: can't allow somebody like China to get to the point

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Speaker 5: where they have so much control over them that they

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Speaker 5: can shut down significant portions of the world economy. So yes,

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Speaker 5: that is definitely where they're shifting their focus. And they're

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Speaker 5: very you know, zeroed in the importance of all that.

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Speaker 1: Well, which is obviously smart. Boy. Unfortunately we're out of time.

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Speaker 1: We could talk for hours about this.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate your point of view, Todd, and appreciate you

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Speaker 2: calling in this morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, thanks so much.

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Speaker 7: It was great to be.

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Speaker 8: Back with you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you too. I'll tell you what. It's certainly food

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Speaker 2: for thought. And boy, I think he's right on the money,

522
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Speaker 2: and so is Donald Trump. I mean, you know, we,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, use the term babysat Europe for a

524
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Speaker 2: long long time time for them to kind of do

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Speaker 2: a little bit more for themselves as a continent. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you got to take a break, but we will be

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Speaker 2: back with open lines and phone calls for seven nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry one eight hundred, the big one if you

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Speaker 2: want to be a part of this. Mike Allen in

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Speaker 2: for Sloaney seven hundred WLW WLW Mike Allen in for Sloaney.

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Speaker 2: As promised, I'm going to the phones, but just wanted

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Speaker 2: to read you one thing.

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Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday Vice President jd.

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Speaker 2: Vance weigh in on this thing, and boy, he just

535
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Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. He called the Minnesota

536
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Speaker 2: situation quote a microcosm of the immigration fraud in our system.

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Speaker 2: He's stating that politicians like it because they get power,

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Speaker 2: welfared cheets like it because they get rich. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that pretty much says it all. And he's

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Speaker 2: damn accurate on it. Okay, let me go to the

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Speaker 2: phones here. Gabriel in Dayton has been holding on the longest. Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Gabriel.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, goodmore and Micah just want to say a couple

544
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Speaker 9: of things, yourself and the great American You all do.

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Speaker 8: A great job there. Appreciate it, Thank you.

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Speaker 9: But I thought i'd heard everything when a year or

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Speaker 9: so ago, Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, she

548
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Speaker 9: got on the national news and she said that there'd

549
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Speaker 9: been like one hundred and sixty smash and grab robbers

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Speaker 9: and eli to that point, and then she said, we're

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Speaker 9: going to put our foot down, We're going to stop this.

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Speaker 9: I'm thinking that the tenor smashing ground is.

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Speaker 8: Why may something?

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Speaker 9: And then the US mentioned JD Vans that that interview

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Speaker 9: with Martha raddits.

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Speaker 6: Yo.

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Speaker 9: You you're saying that, you know, do you recall that

558
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Speaker 9: there was nothing bad about the Venezuela and gang. You're

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Speaker 9: taking over parts of color rather, you know that, But

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Speaker 9: with what the with what the woman said you just

561
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Speaker 9: reported this morning, that probably takes the cakes hey and

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Speaker 9: the down playing this, this Minnesota fraud.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's all I've got to say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, thank you, Gaby.

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Speaker 2: You know I mean, she says they're nitpicking and blaming

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Speaker 2: it all on the Somali people. And again I'll read

567
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Speaker 2: it again, ninety eight people charge eighty five of Somali descent.

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Speaker 2: I think you can infer whatever the heck you want

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Speaker 2: out of that. But appreciate the call. Gabriel. Oh he's gone. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's see. Let's talk to Jay in Centerville. He wants

571
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Speaker 2: to talk about identity theft side of the fraud case,

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Speaker 2: and well, I didn't think about that, but it is

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Speaker 2: a part of the jay what you got.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Mike, I've called it in a few times. I'm

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Speaker 8: the one. Let's see a refugee from the People's Republic

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Speaker 8: of Portland.

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Speaker 6: Did you get a.

578
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Speaker 8: Chance to watch the Nick Shirley recordings?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I only saw one.

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Speaker 2: As I understand that there's a compilation of four of

581
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Speaker 2: them on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen that one yet.

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Speaker 8: They're absolutely amazing. He actually got physically a tackle in

584
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Speaker 8: time tells you that he is really sniffing up the

585
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Speaker 8: right tree. They are. They're coming after him physically, he's

586
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Speaker 8: really turning over some bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, but you know what, you.

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Speaker 2: Look at him, he's one guy with a microphone and

589
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Speaker 2: a camera. In three or four days, he's found out

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Speaker 2: and done what the Minnesota officials couldn't do in years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's incredible.

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Speaker 8: Well, you think about Keith Ellison out there. He is

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Speaker 8: a radical Islamist. He supports care, he supports the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 8: He is not there for the good.

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Speaker 1: He also supports.

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Speaker 2: Interrupted, but he also supports Louis Farrakhan, the biggest anti

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Speaker 2: Semite in the world.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to point.

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Speaker 8: Out he does. It's amazing and if it weren't for

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Speaker 8: the Somali immigrants coming into that state, he would have

601
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Speaker 8: never been elected to that position or to the Senate.

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Speaker 8: So tells you a little bit about the change in

603
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Speaker 8: demographics and the damage will do. But when you look

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Speaker 8: at the situation of totality, and I have some access

605
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Speaker 8: to data around this stuff through work, the majority of

606
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Speaker 8: the fraud is happening on the provider's side. So you

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Speaker 8: have these fake businesses out there. There was one that

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Speaker 8: they showed where there was a restaurant that was building

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Speaker 8: a state eighteen thousand meals a day for kids that

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Speaker 8: didn't have access to food, and the restaurant itself help

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Speaker 8: hold time. I'm thinking around twenty nine people, so somehow

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Speaker 8: they were able to have eighteen thousand kids a day

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Speaker 8: come through. They're never a single kid ever in that restaurant.

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Speaker 8: So it's on the provider side. But when you think

615
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Speaker 8: about the people that are getting the benefits, and there's

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Speaker 8: kickbacks and all kinds of crazy things going on there,

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Speaker 8: there's an identity theft element to this as well. We've

618
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Speaker 8: talked about this before. Nearly every illegal alien in the

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Speaker 8: country and This is where the bleeding hearts don't get it,

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Speaker 8: are using stone identity, and that does massive damage the

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Speaker 8: owners of those security numbers. And a lot of these

622
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Speaker 8: people that Trump is arresting and deporting, they're claiming that

623
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Speaker 8: there was no crime involved with these people. Reality is

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Speaker 8: most of them had either a criminal record, a crime

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Speaker 8: that they're in the process of being prosecuted for, or

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Speaker 8: they had previous orders of deportation either them or came back.

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Speaker 2: Jay this morning. I don't mean to interrupt you, but

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Speaker 2: this morning I saw the figure. Oh it's been a

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Speaker 2: seven out of ten of them, and I'm sorry for

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Speaker 2: interrupt you.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure people knew that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, So when I see all these whiny people

633
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Speaker 8: on Facebook and other places talking about kicking out the

634
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Speaker 8: poor immigrants, number one, they're not immigrants. I have friends

635
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Speaker 8: that are immigrants and they put a lot of work

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Speaker 8: into becoming American citizens. And number two, they do have

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Speaker 8: criminal records. The mainstream media chooses to pick what they

638
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Speaker 8: cherry pick what they share, and when they say that

639
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Speaker 8: they don't have criminal records, they're not talking about the

640
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Speaker 8: felonies that they have against them for re entering the country.

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Speaker 8: After they've been deported.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And again seven out of ten, so that kind of

644
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Speaker 2: takes that argument away.

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Speaker 1: And you don't even do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you trespassed into our country, you are

647
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Speaker 2: a criminal. You've committed a crime. You're not a citizen

648
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Speaker 2: of this country. You may be a temporary illegal resident.

649
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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this thing in Minnesota will open people's eyes.

651
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it should.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't, I don't know why, but I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the call. Okay, thanks, Yeah, seven out of ten. So

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Speaker 2: you know, go figure, well, you know, when Joe Biden

655
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Speaker 2: lets what anywhere from latest figures fifteen million to twenty

656
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Speaker 2: million people in we're gonna be dealing with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe Biden. And I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: That guy has to go down as the worst president

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Speaker 2: in this country's history. You know, you talk about Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 2: and I've not been charitable to him very much.

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Speaker 1: I think I should now.

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Speaker 2: But Jimmy Carter, he well, first of all, he wasn't

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Speaker 2: cognitively impaired, but I truly think he thought about him Americans.

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Speaker 2: Who the hell knows what Biden was thinking about anyway,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Will in northern Kentucky. He wants to

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Speaker 2: weigh in on what we talked about the National Security

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Speaker 2: Survey with Todd Sheets. Hey, Will, how you doing?

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Speaker 10: Hey Mike, I always love your programs. I think you

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Speaker 10: wanted to call on Saturday about that.

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Speaker 8: Anyway.

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Speaker 10: You know, the GDP of a country really doesn't matter.

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Speaker 10: Think of what the al Qaeda did in ninety eleven.

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Speaker 10: Here they've called the world billions billions of dollars, and

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Speaker 10: they they did it with nothing. You know, Putin is

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Speaker 10: If you want to know the true nature of Putin,

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Speaker 10: Readill o'illy's relatively new book, Confronting Evil. Chapter nine is

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Speaker 10: dedicated to him. Okay, he's a death line. He's a

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Speaker 10: mass murderer. And that's what the United States always says

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Speaker 10: tried to do, is confront mass murderers and desktops. You know,

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Speaker 10: whether it's in South America or whether it's in you know,

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Speaker 10: Eastern Europe at the time, you know, the just it's

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Speaker 10: because Ukrainian now Ukrainian now, it doesn't mean Estonia or

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Speaker 10: Lafia or Finland won't be next or Poland.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no question.

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Speaker 2: He gets away with what he did looks like maybe

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Speaker 2: they're coming close to some kind of agreement. I'm a

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Speaker 2: little skeptical, but he does to other countries what he's

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Speaker 2: done to Ukraine. I mean, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people think that that very well could happen. When I

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Speaker 2: saw the figure will of anywhere from three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million to five hundred excuse me, five million people

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Speaker 2: killed or I'm sorry, five hundred thousand people killed. It's

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Speaker 2: just staggering. He doesn't care about human life. And you know,

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Speaker 2: he treats that his citizens like their bullets coming out

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Speaker 2: of a gun.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that guy, I think he can boil it down.

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Speaker 1: He's a thug.

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Speaker 6: He's a thug.

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Speaker 10: And if you and you know they are, to you,

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Speaker 10: Russia is really just a one trick pony. Really have

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Speaker 10: two tricks on me. They have not natural resources coming

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Speaker 10: out to law zoom. Plus the military, the military is

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Speaker 10: really only second to the United States and icb ms

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Speaker 10: and fighters. They export a lot of that stuff to

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Speaker 10: bad actors all around the world. Obviously, give me a

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Speaker 10: perspective of that number, you know in the song and

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Speaker 10: World War One, just in a three months battle, the

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Speaker 10: British lost four.

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Speaker 8: Hundred thousand dead.

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Speaker 10: We lost four hundred thousand entire.

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Speaker 8: World War two.

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Speaker 10: Just put perspectives into you know, give you perspectives of

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Speaker 10: numbers of the help many people die.

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Speaker 11: In these wars.

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Speaker 10: But you know Ukraine his loss tens of thousands of people.

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Speaker 7: Also you look that up.

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Speaker 10: And may have died, and he targets civilians. Yeah, but anyway,

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Speaker 10: that's that's all I got to say about that. You've

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Speaker 10: got great shows.

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Speaker 8: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Will, and thanks for asking a

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Speaker 2: question about that, because it is important. You know, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't raise your blood level. I think to the extent

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Speaker 2: that this the grift that keeps on giving in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: But obviously extremely important. And once again, say what you

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Speaker 2: want about Trump, but he is right on the money

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Speaker 2: with this thing. It's not Eurocentric anymore. And I didn't

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Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to Todd about the situation

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Speaker 2: in South America, that hemisphere. What Trump's plans down there

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Speaker 2: are so also the strategic plan. As Todd pointed out,

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Speaker 2: people don't like it on the left, they don't like

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Speaker 2: it on the right. Usually that means there's something pretty

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Speaker 2: good in there. Hey, let's talk to Fred in Vansburg. Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Fred.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: And my pleasure.

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Speaker 12: Happy New Year to all of you at WLW.

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Speaker 7: A longtime listener, thank you.

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Speaker 13: Also, I want to tell you I'm a Christian conservative

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Speaker 13: okay years a somewhat disabled and living on a very

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Speaker 13: limited pitch income.

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Speaker 12: And I'm actually I'm calling about the.

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Speaker 10: Terror I mean the terror free by the situation there, the.

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Speaker 13: Two thousand dollars payment.

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Speaker 12: Is there any news on that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Fred, as I sit here now, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure gonna look because he has said that,

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Speaker 2: he said it, and then I know it was him

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Speaker 2: or somebody else in it is in his administration backed

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Speaker 2: off of it a little bit. But you know, the

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Speaker 2: thing about Trump is he says he's going to do something,

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Speaker 2: I mean nine times out of ten, probably more than

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Speaker 2: that he does it.

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Speaker 1: But I'll drill down on that. I don't because I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure.

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Speaker 10: That's what I understand.

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Speaker 4: And i want to tell you one other thing.

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Speaker 12: And I guess in the winter or spring, winter or

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Speaker 12: early spring of twenty twenty two, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 12: tax payer, file a taxer, turn you know, the h

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Speaker 12: R block, And I was, I was of the understanding

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Speaker 12: that I my people were going to get uh a

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Speaker 12: fourteen dollars rebate when Biden. This is when Biden was

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Speaker 12: uh uh in in office, and Uh, I want to

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Speaker 12: tell you I never received any. I mean, I'm over

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Speaker 12: the understanding that some people were received the fourteen hundred dollars,

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Speaker 12: but I certainly did not. I received two form letters,

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Speaker 12: one from the U. S. Treasury and one form letter

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Speaker 12: from Biden himself saying that I was turned down.

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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to did they let that they

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Speaker 2: say why?

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Speaker 12: They said there was a mistake, Yeah, Biden that that

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Speaker 12: that that uh an hn R block uh and there

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Speaker 12: was no on the only the only mistake is that

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Speaker 12: I'm a conservative.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank.

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Speaker 12: And I want to I want to tell you another

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Speaker 12: thing I had. I was in a really bad direct

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Speaker 12: more than twenty years ago. Received a settlement investing money

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Speaker 12: in the stock market. And I really, I really lost

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Speaker 12: badge badly in the in the in the Biden years.

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Speaker 6: I really I was.

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Speaker 9: I was.

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Speaker 12: I was wiped out uh by UH by UH August

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Speaker 12: the twenty twenty four I was worked out of the

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Speaker 12: stock market and UH and UH I was. I was

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Speaker 12: receiving income money transferred from the from the money market

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Speaker 12: account to my taking account. Uh and anyway, by August

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Speaker 12: of twenty twenty four, it was all gone uh and uh.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 12: Like I said, I'm I'm on a very limited texting

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Speaker 12: I'm for this year of twenty twenty five, I've had

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Speaker 12: more than five thousand dollars more going out of my

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Speaker 12: checond account than an incomp coming union.

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Speaker 4: I welcome.

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Speaker 10: I really use the two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's the hangover, Fred. I think of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: Trump's turning things around. Hey, I appreciate the car.

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Speaker 12: I know he's in the process of working, and I'm

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Speaker 12: I'm very thankful to hear. I guess this is true.

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Speaker 12: The seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars to uh after Milter,

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Speaker 12: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm going to drill down on

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Speaker 2: our Fred, but I do have to go. I got

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Speaker 2: some other callers, but thank you for that call. Let

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Speaker 2: me see what I can find out. Okay, I will

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Speaker 2: look at that. Hey, let's do this. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: short break, come back, and then we'll have a few

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Speaker 2: minutes before ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Dan Horn, it's hang around for this.

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Speaker 2: It's about the change in religious feelings not only nationwide,

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Speaker 2: but in the greater Cincinnati area. We'll do that when

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Speaker 2: we get back Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW Sloaney. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we got some answers, I believe to the questions that

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Speaker 2: the previous caller post with respect.

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Speaker 1: To the two thousand dollars tariff rebate checks.

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Speaker 2: The Columbus Dispatch reports to that funding for President Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump's proposed two thousand dollars tar freebate checks would require

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Speaker 2: approval from Congress. White House Economic Advisor Ken Hassett said

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Speaker 2: the administration will likely bring a formal proposal to Congress

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Speaker 2: in the new year. The latest news comes after Trump

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Speaker 2: announced the Warrior dividends the seventeen seventy six bonus from

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Speaker 2: military members funded from the one Big, Beautiful Bill. I

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Speaker 2: want to tell you, right after that last caller called,

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Speaker 2: a caller called in and said that his son is

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Speaker 2: a service member. He did receive the one thousand, seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six bonus. I think that's pretty cool too.

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Speaker 2: How they did that set it up with seventeen seventy

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Speaker 2: six the only problem, And I got to think Trump

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Speaker 2: and his administration doped this out. I mean, one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons why. And I am not an economist by

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Speaker 2: any stretch of the imagination. I'm real good at one

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Speaker 2: thing with money, and that's spending it. But one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons I think for the inflation, or at least

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Speaker 2: it's been reported under the Biden administration, was Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: dumping all this money into the economy. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know the wiser wherefores as to why that would spike inflation.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, if I know Trump, he thought

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Speaker 2: it out. And I tell you, I don't have any

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Speaker 2: problem at all. Giving soldiers, active duty soldiers seven one,

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy six bucks. They earn it, you

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Speaker 2: know people, and you know you'll get some people that'll say.

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Speaker 1: Well you will, you know, why why would you do that?

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Speaker 2: I mean they're already paid, and they're pretty pretty well paid.

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Speaker 2: You get up in the officer and I spent ten

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Speaker 2: years in the Army Reserve in the Jag Corps. The

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Speaker 2: officer ranks are pretty well paid, I think enlisted.

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Speaker 1: Not so much.

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Speaker 2: So this is something that can help those families around

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Speaker 2: Christmas time. I'm all for it. Hey, just a couple

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Speaker 2: of things I wanted to kind of pick up on that.

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Speaker 2: Various people said on this whole situation with the Minnesota deal,

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Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House weight on it, and if

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Speaker 2: I could only find it, I would tell you what

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll have to do that later. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to mar Gay.

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Speaker 2: She is the person from MSNBC now analyst and again,

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Speaker 2: and I should check this. A New York Times reporter,

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Speaker 2: which you know, what she said, would certainly indicate that

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Speaker 2: that's true. And we heard that clip of her, but

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Speaker 2: I still scratched my head on it. She claimed that

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Speaker 2: the Somali community in Minnesota is being her words, scapegoaded

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Speaker 2: in response to recent federal fraud cases related to Here

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Speaker 2: we Go pandemic relief funding. The statement was made in

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Speaker 2: the context of President Trump targeting the community.

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Speaker 1: That's what she says. He hasn't you know, he really

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Speaker 1: hasn't said much on it.

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Speaker 2: Is an administration has and is doing something about it

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Speaker 2: generated significant news coverage. See that's what you get with

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Speaker 2: these people. They gaslight you, or I mean, they lie

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Speaker 2: to you. A gaslight, I think is a little bit less.

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand the word that much, but not

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Speaker 2: as strong as a blatant lie.

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Speaker 1: Either way. Either way.

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Speaker 2: And I've always wondered, do they do this knowing what

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Speaker 2: they're doing or they actually believe the garbage. I guess

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter either way. Hey, we got to break

879
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Speaker 2: for the news. When we come back, you're gonna want

880
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Speaker 2: to hear this. This is going to be good. Dan Horne,

881
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Speaker 2: a long time reporter for the Cincinnati Enquirer, did a

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Speaker 2: piece about a about I think it's about a week ago,

883
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Speaker 2: about the change in religious feelings both nationally and in

884
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Speaker 2: the Tri state area. And we are going to talk

885
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Speaker 2: to Dan about that when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen in.

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Speaker 2: For Slowey, seven hundred WLW. It's ten thirty eight News Radio,

888
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Slowey. Well, I

889
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Speaker 2: kind of gave you a preview of it a little

890
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Speaker 2: bit this morning. Dan Horne of the Cincinnati Inquirer, who

891
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Speaker 2: is a true journalist, he wrote a great article about

892
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Speaker 2: a week ago titled poll finds Cincinnatians believe in Heaven

893
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Speaker 2: and Hell but skip services and he's here to talk

894
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Speaker 2: about it with us now. Thanks so much for joining us.

895
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Speaker 2: Dan really appreciate it.

896
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 8: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Hey, according to AI, which I don't know, if you're

899
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Speaker 2: using I'm starting to use it pretty much. Recent data

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00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: from late twenty twenty four and going into twenty twenty

901
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: five seems to indicate a rise in religious influence in

902
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Speaker 2: the United States. Is that what you found? And if

903
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Speaker 2: you want to just kind of expound on what you

904
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Speaker 2: found in the piece that you.

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Speaker 14: Wrote, Yeah, there, and there is some recent data out

906
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Speaker 14: there suggesting there's been an uptick, particularly among young men in.

907
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Speaker 11: Some religious faith.

908
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Speaker 14: But the data I looked at looked at kind of

909
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Speaker 14: the long game on some of this stuff. This is

910
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Speaker 14: the data I looked at was a Pew Research Center survey,

911
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 14: which is a periodic survey they do every half decade

912
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Speaker 14: or so, and basically they asked people across the country

913
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Speaker 14: about their religious beliefs, about, you know, their attendance services,

914
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 14: how often they pray, do they believe in heaven and Hell,

915
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 14: that kind of thing, and they can compare that over

916
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Speaker 14: time to past results, and that trend line is pretty

917
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 14: much shown that attendance at mass or at any religious

918
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Speaker 14: service is down generally, but the importance of religion and

919
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 14: people's lives is sixty four percent of people said it

920
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Speaker 14: was very or somewhat important and only about a quarter

921
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Speaker 14: of the people surveyed said that they attend religious services regularly.

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Speaker 2: You know, and it seems too like the Greater Cincinnati area,

923
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: which demographically, I guess Pugh broke that down pretty much

924
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Speaker 2: dovetails in most cases with the national poll. Just a paragraph, short,

925
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Speaker 2: couple sentences out of your story. Pew found sixty six

926
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Speaker 2: percent of those surveyed here were Christians, with about two

927
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Speaker 2: thirds identifying as Protestant and about one third as Catholic.

928
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Speaker 2: About seven percent were members of other faiths faiths including Judaism, Islam,

929
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Speaker 2: and Hinduism. The rest said they didn't identify with any

930
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Speaker 2: organized religion. And you make the point, then, Dan, that

931
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Speaker 2: compared with the rest of the country, Greater Cincinnatians of

932
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Speaker 2: all faiths felt more strongly that religion was an important

933
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Speaker 2: part of their lives, with forty two percent saying that

934
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Speaker 2: it was very important, compared to thirty eight percent for

935
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Speaker 2: the country. Overall, it seems like we in the Greaterst.

936
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati area are kind of paralleling what the country's saying.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, there wasn't much variation from Greater Cincinnati.

938
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Speaker 7: To the national numbers.

939
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Speaker 14: A little bit here or there, but the most part

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Speaker 14: as you said, they doved heiled pretty closely.

941
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Speaker 2: And belief in God, that's one that obviously many people

942
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Speaker 2: find very important. What did you find out about that

943
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Speaker 2: both nationally and in the Tri State area?

944
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Speaker 8: Right?

945
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Speaker 14: So you know that's obviously the foundation of most religious faiths,

946
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Speaker 14: as a belief in the Supreme Being or in God.

947
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Speaker 14: And you know, this survey found fifty seven percent of

948
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Speaker 14: people in Cincinnati and fifty four percent nationally were certain

949
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Speaker 14: in their belief in God, confident that God was real.

950
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Speaker 14: There were another twenty eight twenty nine percent who said

951
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Speaker 14: they believe, but they're not certain. So that's a huge

952
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Speaker 14: number that says they are either certain or they believe

953
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Speaker 14: that God is real. And yet you see the numbers

954
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Speaker 14: for people who actually put that belief into action by

955
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Speaker 14: attending weekly services is still about one in four.

956
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Speaker 11: Of people who say they are part of the religious faith.

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Speaker 2: Here's a big one too that you looked at, do

958
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Speaker 2: you believe in heaven or Hell? Can you kind of

959
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Speaker 2: tell us what you found on that one both locally

960
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Speaker 2: and nationally that Pew.

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Speaker 14: Put out, Yeah, here are Cincinnatians actually are a little

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Speaker 14: less likely to believe in heaven.

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Speaker 6: They have sixty.

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Speaker 14: Percent and national responders were sixty seven percent saying that

965
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Speaker 14: they believed. I don't know if this is the optimism

966
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Speaker 14: and Cincinnatians or not, but few of them believe in

967
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 14: hell two percent that they believe in hell fifty five

968
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Speaker 14: percent nationally. So they're more confident that there's something awaiting

969
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Speaker 14: you if you do good in your life, and a

970
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 14: little less confident that there's some eternal punishment.

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Speaker 11: For you if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Sure you know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things they left out, I guess that

974
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Speaker 2: for Catholics is the concept of purgatory, which we were

975
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Speaker 2: taught that, you know, if you're not perfect, you may

976
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Speaker 2: have to do a stretch in purgatory. And I always

977
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Speaker 2: thought I'll do a couple hundred years in purgatory if

978
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Speaker 2: I eventually get to having for eternity. I don't know,

979
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Speaker 2: I think there are some Catholics that actually feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised?

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Speaker 14: I'm a number of skipping math That might be true.

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Speaker 2: Man, What else did you find interesting in this thing?

983
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: It's all interesting? But I guess did any of this

984
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Speaker 2: stuff surprise you?

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Speaker 6: Not? Really?

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Speaker 14: This is part of kind of a decade on trend

987
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Speaker 14: line that you're seeing in any number of polls. Gallop

988
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Speaker 14: does semi annual pulling on this, and you see the

989
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Speaker 14: numbers showing some consistency and belief, but a less consistency

990
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Speaker 14: and religious affiliation with organized faith, more people they don't

991
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Speaker 14: follow any particular faith, newer people attending services. There is

992
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Speaker 14: some variation in that. But you know, just the most

993
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Speaker 14: recent Gallup poll found across the board declines and religious

994
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Speaker 14: service attendance among or among Christian faiths over the last

995
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Speaker 14: twenty five years. And just from you know, Protestant mainline Protestants, Presbyterians, Methodists,

996
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 14: that sort of thing, Evangelicals and Catholics. You know, it's

997
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Speaker 14: part of a trend that we've seen for some time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it boils down to, according to

999
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Speaker 2: what you write and according to the numbers, that the

1000
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Speaker 2: importance of religion has risen a little bit, but not

1001
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Speaker 2: necessarily attending the services. I know, for the Katholic Mass,

1002
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when I was a kid growing up,

1003
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Speaker 2: I mean, those those churches were packed.

1004
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Speaker 1: Not so much now. But it does seem to me, based.

1005
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Speaker 2: On what I've read independently and what you report, that

1006
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Speaker 2: at least at least a feeling that there is a

1007
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: supreme being in that person. That being is important. Is

1008
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: that kind of what you're thinking to and what you found.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 14: You know, people will say that, they tend to say

1011
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 14: that they believe, but I think what we're seeing is

1012
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Speaker 14: a decline and the belief in the institutional aspects of

1013
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 14: religion and traditional religious belief. You know that in far

1014
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 14: as far as organized faith, attending mass, regularly identifying with

1015
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 14: a particular faith, that's the thing that's declined. And you

1016
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Speaker 14: know some of the reasons for that, I mean, no

1017
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 14: one knows for sure. I mean, the surveys are all

1018
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Speaker 14: over the place on some of that, but you know,

1019
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 14: among mainline Protestants you see some splintering over issues like

1020
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Speaker 14: gay maryorg. Among Catholics certainly still see struggling from the

1021
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 14: fallout from the clergy abuse scandal, and some of the

1022
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 14: faith in the institutions. You know that that created and

1023
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 14: then just you know, politics in general has become more

1024
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 14: and it kind of infused with religion, religious beliefs, and

1025
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 14: whether it's abortion or immigration or any other culture war issues.

1026
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 14: Sometimes people get turned off by some of that. So

1027
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Speaker 14: you know, no one knows for certain why it's happening,

1028
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 14: but you know, there does seem to be some consistency

1029
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 14: in the belief in the Supreme Being, but less consistency

1030
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 14: in attaching that belief to a particular faith.

1031
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: Got it, And I think that's the takeaway too. Hey,

1032
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you talking about this thing. I was

1033
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Speaker 2: fascinated by it. I would assume Dan, that you're going

1034
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: to follow it and maybe at some point kind of

1035
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Speaker 2: take a look at it again.

1036
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

1037
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Speaker 14: Well, we'll see as these surveys come out, and it's

1038
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 14: always interesting to kind of see what people believe in

1039
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 14: why they believe it. And you know, we followed you

1040
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 14: know some you know, issues on how religious feel locally

1041
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 14: is shifting, and we'll continue to look at that as well.

1042
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: All Right, really appreciate it, Dan, have a happy new

1043
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Year and thank you.

1044
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: Thanks Mike, you too, Okay, all right.

1045
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: Dan Horne of the Cincinnati Inquire. I don't know, maybe

1046
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: it's just me, but I'm interested in this and it

1047
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: just seems like it's trending upwards. But as Dan pointed out,

1048
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: both nationally and locally here, while I forget how the

1049
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: question was asked, I think is religion important in your life?

1050
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Speaker 11: Yeah?

1051
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: How important is religion in your life, those numbers increase. However,

1052
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: attendance at services has decreased, and you know that kind

1053
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: of goes along with what I have seen in you know,

1054
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: you try to get young people interested in going either

1055
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: to mass or to service, and you know, sometimes it's

1056
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: it's like talking to a rock. But bottom line is

1057
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Speaker 2: it would seem like it's trending upward. And again, really

1058
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: appreciate Dan doing the article to begin with and filling

1059
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 2: us in with it. Hey, we'll take a short break,

1060
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Speaker 2: but we'll be back. Mike Gallen in for Slowey seven

1061
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: hundred WLW WLW Mike Allen in for Sloaney today, tomorrow

1062
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Speaker 2: and Friday.

1063
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1064
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: I learned something from that last segment with Dan Horne

1065
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: and also from reading his article. And again, like I said,

1066
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: it does seem like at least interest in religion is

1067
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: trending upward slightly. As far as going to services for

1068
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: all faiths, that's kind of down. I went and looked

1069
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: at the poll nationally that Pugh does, and I've always

1070
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: found their stuff to be pretty good if you look

1071
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: at it United States. This is in the United States

1072
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: United States figures, sixty two percent identify as Christians seven

1073
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: percent identify with other religions. Then you got a big

1074
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: group twenty nine percent identify as religiously I don't know

1075
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: if I said that right, unaffiliated, And you look at

1076
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: it and the others when you talk about that, the

1077
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: religiously unaffiliated atheist five percent. Again, this is nationally atheist

1078
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: five percent, agnostic six percent, nothing in particular nineteen percent.

1079
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: And you know, you're never too old to learn something.

1080
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: And I did not know that there was any difference

1081
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: between an agnostic and an atheist. Apparently there is. Again,

1082
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: if AI is correct, and I've found it to be reliable.

1083
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: An atheists just flat out lacks belief in God, whereas

1084
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: an agnostic they believe that it's impossible to know God,

1085
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: which I mean is really sad you think about it.

1086
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: So there is that difference, I guess. But when you

1087
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Speaker 2: break down the religions, the sixty two percent that I

1088
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Speaker 2: was just talking about nationwide, Evangelical Protestants make up twenty

1089
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: three percent of that mainline Protestants eleven percent, historically Black Protestants,

1090
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Speaker 2: five percent, Catholic nineteen percent. Now I would have thought

1091
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Speaker 2: that would have been a little bit more in your

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Speaker 2: countries in South America and Mexico, those kind of countries.

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Speaker 2: I think the Catholic numbers would be way up there.

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Speaker 2: And actually they even have some Mormon Latter day Saints

1095
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: two percent, Orthodox Christian one percent, Jehovah's Witnessed one percent,

1096
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: and other Christian one percent. So anyway, I do think

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: it's impossible. It makes sense to go and to keep

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01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: track of those things at least stay interested in it.

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Speaker 2: So thanks to Dan for doing that. Hey, we got

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Speaker 2: a few minutes here and I got a call. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk to Warren in Dayton. Hey, good morning Warren.

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01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 6: Hey Mike, you do a good job. Thank you on there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 6: Just wonder what difference it would make the crime if

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01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 6: we had stronger prosecutors and more governmental officials, state, local

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01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 6: and another that would do their job be formal. Yeah,

1107
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 6: how much the crime would go down if we had

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 6: tougher prosecution.

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01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: That's a really good CLIs really really good question. And

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01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: you know, historically in this county, in this area, we

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: have had strong prosecutors.

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Speaker 1: We really have.

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01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: Hamil County is changing though, and you know, some of

1114
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: my Republican friends give me grief about it, but I

1115
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: think our current prosecutor Countie Pillet. She's a Democrat. I

1116
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: think she's doing a pretty darn good job. Not everybody

1117
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: locally would agree with that. Yeah, I'm glad to hear that,

1118
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 2: as far as it's a real kind of simple proposition.

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01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: In my humble opinion, having been county prosecutor, the stronger

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Speaker 2: the prosecutor is, the more crime is going to get

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01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: punished like it should get punished. This whole concept of

1122
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: the George Soros prosecutor where he just flooded these liberal

1123
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: lawyers running for prosecutor, that has done i think, not

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: irreparable damage but close to it to the criminal justice system.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and I've been involved in it

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: in one way, shape or form now for fifty one years,

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: and it's just such a basic concept. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you put law enforcement in there too. The more cops

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01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: you have on the street, the less crime you have.

1130
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: But the proviso being, you let those cops do their job,

1131
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: and if for some reason they get in the jackpot,

1132
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: if you will, you back them up if it's not

1133
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: something that's egregious. And until we have that, I think

1134
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to have the problems. And you know,

1135
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: in Hamilton, County, and I hope I'm not veering too

1136
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: far off from what you're talking about.

1137
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: In Hamilton County, I go down to court.

1138
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm retired now, but I've gone down a couple of

1139
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 2: There are not the same amount of people in those

1140
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: courtrooms as there was when you know, back in my heyday,

1141
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: if you will, in the late eighties, early nineties.

1142
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: Going into two thousand, it's about half.

1143
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: And I believe, and I've talked to Ken Kobra FOP

1144
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: president Dan Hills, it is because cops ain't sticking their

1145
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: nose out because they don't think they'll get back from

1146
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: the administration. And yeah, it sure seems like they're right

1147
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: about that. The stronger the prosecutor, the less crime you have.

1148
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: I firmly believe that. And if you take the handcuffs

1149
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: off the cops, if you will, that makes a lot

1150
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: of difference too. I hope I at least partially. Oh

1151
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: my goodness, if I.

1152
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 6: Thought these guys come out. How about the bail, Yeah,

1153
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 6: it should be in jail while they're awaiting sentencing or

1154
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 6: awaiting the legal action.

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: Yep.

1156
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're right about that, and that has trended upwards.

1157
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I was a municipal court judge for about

1158
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: three years. And one of the main jobs you have

1159
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: there is arraignment and setting bail.

1160
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what.

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: And finally it was codified by the Supreme Court. And

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01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: I believe by an election that if one of the

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Speaker 2: things that the court can consider is the danger to

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: the public in setting bail, I think some of these

1165
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: judges don't get it.

1166
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I am.

1167
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: Out of time, warn and I got a break for

1168
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: the news, But thank you for the call. I really

1169
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I hope I at least came close to

1170
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: answering it. Hey, we got to take a break. But

1171
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: when we get back, looking forward to this too, we're

1172
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: going to talk to former Vice Mayor Christopher Smithman.

1173
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: We talked about a lot of things with Christopher.

1174
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him if you could just do

1175
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: kind of an informal year in review for the City

1176
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati from his perspective, and I'm sure lots of

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Speaker 2: interesting things to say. We'll do that when we get back.

1178
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Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW.

1179
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: Hey, we're back.

1180
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: Mike Allen In for Sloaney will be tomorrow Thursday and

1181
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Speaker 2: Friday as well.

1182
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: I think it was a good time.

1183
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: It is a good time to check in with Christopher Smithman,

1184
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, knows what's

1185
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: going on in this city. Just kind of want to

1186
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: see what he's thinking. Christopher, thanks so much for taking

1187
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: time out and calling in with us.

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Speaker 11: Hey, thanks, Mike, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 15: You know, the same things that are happening unfortunately and

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 15: Cincinnati are happening, you know, across a lot of our

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 15: major cities.

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 8: Yep.

1193
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 11: And you know that you see it.

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01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,959
Speaker 15: You know, we're going to have to get our head

1195
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 15: around crime no matter where you live. You know, people

1196
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 15: are tired of seeing their cars taken or we're talking

1197
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 15: about petty crimes or people breaking into their homes. You know,

1198
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 15: we're tired of the murders and the fighting in malls,

1199
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Speaker 15: you know, where people are shopping. You know, we're starting

1200
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 15: to see this craziness and this lack of accountability and

1201
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 15: judges who are failing to hold the criminals accountable, and

1202
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 15: then anybody who speaks out against it.

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,520
Speaker 11: You know, we're there's an attempt.

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 15: To marginalize us sure as sexist, are racist, are too

1205
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 15: conservative or disconnected I've never seen anything like it, This

1206
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 15: effort to protect criminals. Well, you know, I mean, I

1207
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 15: think twenty twenty six is going to be about resetting,

1208
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 15: you know, our conversation around how we manage crime and

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 15: all of our major cities across Ohio.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to and I think exhibit A

1211
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: of what you just described is Minnesota. It just blows

1212
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: my mind, Christopher, and I'm sure you're following it to

1213
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 2: the extent and the depth of the corruption in this thing.

1214
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: And you know, you scratch your head and ask yourself why,

1215
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: and you also ask yourself why there's been very very

1216
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: scant media coverage. What it seems to be is these

1217
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: elected officials, appointed officials and media people are they're afraid

1218
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: to call it out because they're going to get the

1219
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,440
Speaker 2: big R racism label or the big I islamophobic And

1220
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: that's really a prescription for disaster. I think, thankfully it's

1221
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: not here. I don't think Christopher yet, obviously not to

1222
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: that degree. But it's something that's a problem. Would you agree.

1223
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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, it's like every time rational people

1224
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 15: with common sense start saying, you can't steal nine billion

1225
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 15: dollars and I go away, We don't even know the

1226
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 15: size of the corruption and in I mean, we just

1227
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 15: know that it's really big. We know that it's medicaid fraud,

1228
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 15: which you and I support. It supports veterans, it supports

1229
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 15: older people, it supports children with disabilities. I mean, these

1230
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 15: are real dollars that support Americans who need safety net services.

1231
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 15: And I think it's important to not lose sight of

1232
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 15: if this money had not been stolen, it would have

1233
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 15: impacted Americans who really needed it. Yeah, and so that's

1234
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 15: what blows me away from seeing Democrats who will say

1235
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 15: this is their brand, but they seem to be okay, right,

1236
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 15: unwilling to report on whether it's CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC,

1237
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 15: they're just not doing this deep God. And by the way,

1238
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 15: if Elon Musk had not purchased X, we wouldn't even

1239
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 15: have the depth of the information we're having right now,

1240
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 15: because we know that those social media platforms, whether it

1241
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 15: was Facebook that's now called Meta, whether it's.

1242
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 11: Google, whether it's YouTube, they were.

1243
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 15: All out there not allowing information like let's say during COVID,

1244
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 15: to fluently go out there those different opinions. So when

1245
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 15: Elon Musk purchased X and created you know created when

1246
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 15: we bought Twitter and created X, we now are actually

1247
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 15: getting information how I think it was one hundred and

1248
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 15: and seven million views on that twenty three year old

1249
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 15: who went to Minnesota and went door to door.

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Why.

1251
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 15: Didn't any of the mainstream media do any of that

1252
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 15: type of basic journalism? So journalism is dead in America

1253
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 15: right now. And so this young man with an iPhone

1254
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 15: did more work than ABC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, Fox News

1255
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 15: all of them did with just like a forty five

1256
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 15: minute video that he that he that he did, put

1257
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 15: it up on YouTube or put it up on X

1258
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 15: and allowed the public to view it.

1259
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I mean, and we talked about this on

1260
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: the show earlier today. That young man did what all

1261
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: of those organizations that you just talked about didn't do

1262
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 2: in forty five minutes with a cell phone camera. I

1263
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: think he actually had a real camera for one of them.

1264
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: It's staggering. Let me ask you this, you and I

1265
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: get it. Do you think the majority of people out there,

1266
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: normal people that you know, go to work, get paid,

1267
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: come home, take.

1268
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: Care of their kids.

1269
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: Do you think they are as a guest as we

1270
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: are as to what's happening out there.

1271
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 15: I think they are, and I the problem is that

1272
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 15: so many Americans like you and I look at this

1273
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 15: and for us it fires us up. Well, for some

1274
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 15: people it breeds. It breeds this lack of I don't like,

1275
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 15: I don't I can't do anything about it. And so

1276
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 15: what we've got to do is educate people, saying, look,

1277
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 15: we have a mid from life. Come it up in

1278
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 15: twenty twenty six. It's really really big. And what all

1279
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 15: of us should be doing over the holidays is talking

1280
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 15: to our eighteen year olds or those who are going

1281
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 15: to turn eighteen, like my daughter in February, saying it's

1282
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 15: important to register to vote, it's important to participate in

1283
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 15: the process. I mean, we need to make sure that

1284
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 15: our young people are being indoctrinated at these college institutions

1285
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 15: that hey, these things don't matter, because you and I

1286
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 15: know that when we look at our federal taxes, they

1287
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 15: continue to go higher.

1288
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 11: We continue to send money away, whether people.

1289
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 15: Are doing r and ds out of their retirement accounts,

1290
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 15: whether they're doing distributions from their pensions, whether they're doing

1291
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 15: distributions from rollover IRA accounts, they see those federal taxes

1292
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 15: coming out. We don't want to see ninety eleven billion.

1293
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 11: Dollars of federal dollars wasted in Minnesota. That's just there.

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 15: You and I know that the medicaid fraud right is

1295
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 15: probably in many different states. Right, We're we're just touching

1296
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 15: the kind of the scratching the surface. And so how

1297
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 15: do we get voters engaged and ready for twenty twenty

1298
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 15: six as an action and that this doesn't breed empathy?

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 15: I mean apathy, excuse me, apathy where someone says I

1300
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 15: really can't do anything about it, Mike Allen, when they

1301
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 15: really can. It's that individual voter.

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 11: Out there that says, enough enough. I'm not going to

1303
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 11: get caught up in race. I'm not going to get.

1304
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 15: Caught up in sexuality and gender and all of these

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Speaker 15: things that divide us and distract us. I'm going to

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 15: focus on what matters crime. How can I be safe?

1307
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 15: How can I go to my car, start my car

1308
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 15: on a winter morning, think about this and that, comeback

1309
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 15: and in my drive in my car is still sitting there.

1310
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 15: People know that if they go out and start their

1311
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 15: car now, in some parts of our country, their car

1312
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 15: can be stolen. Their car can be taken away from them,

1313
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 15: driven away just within the five minutes of it being

1314
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 15: warmed up. Or you go to a mall or a

1315
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 15: home depot, or you go into a store and you

1316
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 15: see people just snatching iPhones off the table and running

1317
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 15: out of the store with clothes and and electronics, and

1318
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 15: they're not being held accountable by these judges. Judges are

1319
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 15: all elected, as you know, prosecutors are all elected. Yeah,

1320
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 15: so what are we going to do as a country,

1321
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 15: Mike Allen? Making sure that we're focused and not getting distracted,

1322
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 15: and we're getting ready to participate in the twenty twenty

1323
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 15: sixth election. That is the penophilic that's what we have

1324
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 15: to do. And we cannot let these other politicians distract

1325
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Speaker 15: us who are wanting to.

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Speaker 11: Hold on the power.

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Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned the twenty twenty sixth election, the

1328
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Speaker 2: midterms yesterday, I believe it was. I talked to Alex

1329
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Speaker 2: Tchant to feel you who you know, he's the chair

1330
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: of the state Ohio Republican Party, And I asked him

1331
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: exactly that and said, you know, with the midterms coming up,

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: Trump ain't on the ballot. If these mega people, if

1333
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: these Trump supporters do not get out to vote, we're dead.

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: We're dead.

1335
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Speaker 2: And man, he latched onto that like a dog with

1336
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: a bone and made it very clear that they know

1337
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: that at the Ohio Republican Party, and he didn't want

1338
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: to tell me what they're gonna do.

1339
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: I get that, and they're gonna do what they got

1340
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: to do to get those.

1341
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: People out because if they don't, Christopher, we're going to

1342
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: lose the House. We potentially could lose the Senate. Trump

1343
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: is a lame duck, a real lame duck for the

1344
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: rest of his term, and stuff's not gonna get done.

1345
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Speaker 1: Do you agree?

1346
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 11: I agree?

1347
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 15: I mean we have to say that the election is

1348
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 15: not about talkie talkie. It's a Dewey Dewey. So people

1349
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 15: who are talking around bars and restaurants about how frustrated

1350
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 15: they are, but they're not willing to show up the vote, right,

1351
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 15: you're just talking. You're not Dewey Dewey's right, And so

1352
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 15: you know elections are about Dewey Dewey's I mean showing

1353
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 15: up on election day and actually casting a vote and

1354
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 15: making sure that you're protecting your community from fraud, that

1355
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 15: you're protecting your community from crime. You're saying you want

1356
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 15: to make sure you're infrastrate ructure, like your bridges. You

1357
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 15: want to make sure that your school systems are properly funded.

1358
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 15: Like these are the things that.

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 11: We're voting on.

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Speaker 15: I mean, remember, Ohio is about to elect the many

1361
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 15: states are about to elect governors. So vik Ramaswami, who

1362
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 15: I'm endorsing and I support, to be the next governor

1363
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 15: of the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 11: It's critical.

1365
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 15: But when you talk to Democrats and the challenger on

1366
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 15: the other side, who was involved with shutting down schools,

1367
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 15: however keeping bars and liquor stores open, I mean Democrats,

1368
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 15: there are a lot of Democrats out there who don't care

1369
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 15: about that.

1370
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 11: They're so partisan ye that they're just going to still

1371
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 11: vote for her no matter what her record is. So

1372
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 11: the election, I would say to Alex trumph and Felo

1373
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 11: if he was listening to this, it really, unfortunately, is

1374
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 11: not going to come down to it's going to be bad.

1375
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 11: It's not going to come down to public policy. It's

1376
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 11: going to come down to getting your voters out and

1377
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 11: making sure that they participate. And so if the Republicans.

1378
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 15: Across the state don't have a ground game, they're gonna

1379
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 15: lose the election. Yep, this is about organizing door to door,

1380
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 15: walking list, making sure your precinct executive executives are organized,

1381
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 15: making sure that every precinct is covered on election day,

1382
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 15: making sure that you don't turn your nose up to

1383
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 15: early voting.

1384
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 11: That's the new world we live in. And so if you.

1385
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 15: Walk away from early voting and you're not stacking up

1386
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 15: those votes during early voting, the Democrats will absolutely be

1387
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 15: victorious in the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 11: And across the country.

1389
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 15: But if the Republican parties wake up and say, hey,

1390
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 15: we're gonna we're gonna have a conversation about not talkie talkie,

1391
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 15: but dow we do we and put people on the

1392
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 15: ground and run a very strong ground game. Whether it's

1393
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 15: the individual kendidate or whether it's the party themselves. Hey,

1394
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 15: they're gonna be victorious because it's about getting your voter

1395
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 15: to the ballot, I mean, to the to the polling

1396
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 15: location and that they actually.

1397
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Speaker 7: Cast a vote, you know.

1398
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Speaker 2: And as I said after talking to him yesterday, I mean,

1399
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: he got really animated about that question. And there is

1400
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that he knows how important

1401
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: that is and is going to do what he can

1402
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 2: do to get the people out and you know what, Chrisopher,

1403
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not all that difficult to understand. I mean,

1404
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: if we don't keep the House, if we don't keep

1405
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: the Senate, Donald J.

1406
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: Trump ain't gonna be able to do much.

1407
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing he could do, I guess

1408
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: is executive orders, and those things, as we all know,

1409
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: get tied up in court. But I did want to

1410
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 2: ask you this too, because this really blew me away.

1411
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: I had Ken Koberra on I think it was the

1412
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: Saturday Show and we're talking and he said that they

1413
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: have money, and they have funding. I forget what the

1414
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: number was, maybe thirty or fifty new cops. And he

1415
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: said they're not filled, that those things aren't filled.

1416
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: I asked him why. He said, they can't.

1417
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: Find people that want to do that, which is just

1418
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: it's the mirror opposite of a million years ago when

1419
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: I was involved in that Hell, they give a police test,

1420
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: they filled the convention center with people that wanted to

1421
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, is that something that you're hearing

1422
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: about too? And what would you say is the solution

1423
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: to that? Because it's really hard to believe. I mean,

1424
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 2: I believe Ken, but man, it's people used to be

1425
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: lining up for that job.

1426
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 11: Well, President Kober is right, and we also have to.

1427
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 15: Know that the you know, police officers in Cincinnati have

1428
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 15: a really great contract, so they're also you know, paid well,

1429
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 15: great overtime benefits, great off duty detailed benefits. So like,

1430
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 15: even with great contracts, it's been difficult for our Sinnaty

1431
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 15: Police Department and police departments across the country to do

1432
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 15: the kind of recruitment that they have to do. And

1433
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 15: the reason is the elected in those areas. I mean,

1434
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 15: they act as if we, you and I the public

1435
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 15: are crazy, Like you understand that if an officer out

1436
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 15: there makes a split second decision, it could be the

1437
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 15: not just the end of their job, but the end

1438
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 15: of their families. I mean, because people show up to

1439
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 15: your house, they try to destroy your whole life. They

1440
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 15: put your information out on the internet, you know, they

1441
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 15: put you up like you're this this terrible person, and

1442
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 15: you're like, hey, I was in a dark alley, I

1443
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 15: was chasing a guy. He turned around and he had

1444
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 15: a pellet gun. It looked real. I couldn't see the orange.

1445
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 15: Pity I fired, took a life, and now you got

1446
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 15: a jury of its peer saying you made it. You

1447
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 15: made a bad decision.

1448
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 11: That's the reality that we live in. And it's a

1449
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 11: nightmare out there.

1450
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 15: And now you have states like Ohio talking about they

1451
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 15: want to take away immunity. Right, don't think that the

1452
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 15: person out there, you know, like, I'm not going to

1453
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 15: put my entire life on the line. So what happens

1454
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 15: here is that elections have consequences. Mike Allix, we just

1455
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 15: elected the mayor, all these members of of of city

1456
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 15: council in our city. We did it, you know, we

1457
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 15: did it in Anderson Township. We did it across the county,

1458
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 15: We did it across the states here where we had

1459
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 15: a we had a shut down, you had you know,

1460
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 15: King's Day and all that kind of stuff. And Democrats

1461
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 15: really knew what they were doing. They were getting up,

1462
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 15: organizing their base and getting them the early vote. The

1463
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 15: reality of it is is we have elected people Mike

1464
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 15: Allen who won a defund and reimagine the police department.

1465
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 11: That's that's where we are. And the president knows it.

1466
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 11: And guess what, I know it. So if I got

1467
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 11: a son he says, hey, I want to be a

1468
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 11: police officer, Right, I go, I don't know, maybe not

1469
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 11: a police officer. Maybe you choose the military because son,

1470
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:30,879
Speaker 11: you could get out there and make a bad decision

1471
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 11: and it ended up destroying your whole life.

1472
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: And we're about out of time. But that is a shame.

1473
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that and finish your thought there. But you

1474
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: are absolutely one hundred percent right, and that's a damn

1475
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: shame because that's not the way it used to be.

1476
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 15: No, and we have so many the police department, let

1477
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 15: me remind everybody, is the most diverse city department that

1478
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 15: Cincinnati has. And that's true, like you know, with women.

1479
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 2: You know what I think I lost, Christopher. Well, we

1480
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: are almost out of time anyway, so let's take a break.

1481
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: When we get back, we are going to check in

1482
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: with I Heart Aviation Expert Jay Ratliffe, going to see

1483
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: what the travel situation is. We'll do that when we

1484
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: get back. Mike Allen in for Slowey, seven hundred WLW

1485
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Sloaney. Well,

1486
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We're still in the holiday season,

1487
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: have a few more days left of it, obviously, big

1488
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: holiday coming up New Year's Day. Wanted to check in

1489
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: with iHeart Aviation Expert Jay Ratliffe, to see how it's

1490
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: all going.

1491
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: Jay, thank you so much for calling in.

1492
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 16: It's a convenient time, brother, so always fun to talk.

1493
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 16: And the deal is you work, I work. That's been

1494
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 16: the forever and ever and ever.

1495
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: Brother, You're a good man. Hey, before we get into aviation,

1496
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you. Every time I talk to you,

1497
01:23:58,920 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: I like to get an update.

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01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: How are your day? Trading students doing?

1499
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 7: Been a pretty lonely day.

1500
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 16: The opening bout range at nine thirty with a stock

1501
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 16: that dropped doubled twice, So I had students putting five six,

1502
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 16: seven hundred bucks on a stock that walked away with

1503
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 16: about three thousand dollars. And after five or eight eight

1504
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 16: minutes they're done, they hit their goal and leave. So

1505
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 16: you know, I'm sitting back here twelve of my thumbs thinking, wow,

1506
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 16: today was supposed to be a pretty busy day and

1507
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 16: I'm working and everybody else's leaving. But you know, you know, Mike,

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 16: I look at I read a report the other day

1509
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 16: that forty seven out of fifty states have underfunded pensions.

1510
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 16: These are state pitchons where eight hundred and thirty two

1511
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 16: billion dollars underfunded, And this is what people are counting

1512
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 16: on for the retirement. And when we see the mess

1513
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 16: that's going on in Minneapolis or Minnesota, and you know

1514
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 16: what's going on across the country, the idea that people

1515
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 16: are counting on those kinds of things for retirement, knowing

1516
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 16: what states are doing, that's one of the reasons that

1517
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 16: when you know Northwest Airlines kicking me to the curb

1518
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 16: all those years ago, I wanted to find a way

1519
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 16: that I didn't have to count on those people. So yeah,

1520
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 16: Lord willing, as long as I've got my right brain

1521
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 16: about me, I'll be I'll be flipping stocks because I'm

1522
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 16: through waiting on other people to take care of me.

1523
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: No, And I hear you, well, I'm one of the

1524
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: ones that you're talking about with respect to the pensions.

1525
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had a lot of years in public

1526
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 2: service and I'm getting a pretty good pension.

1527
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 16: But you're right, I was thinking of you when I

1528
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 16: when I was saying.

1529
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 8: That, right.

1530
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 16: You know, mostly it's like the looming storm of social security.

1531
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 16: People know, six seven years, we're not going to have

1532
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 16: as many people contributing as taking something's got to be done.

1533
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 16: But people are just skipping along blindly like it's okay.

1534
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 16: The national debt. Who cares if it's thirty eight trillion?

1535
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1536
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 16: Again, people just oblivious to, you know, some of the

1537
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 16: coming financial storms that we're looking at, and it's it's scary.

1538
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,879
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and it's not aviation related,

1539
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: but I want to hear your thoughts on it. What

1540
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this absolutely wild, crazy and pathetic

1541
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: thing going on out in minnes I mean, are you

1542
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 2: as blown away by that as I am?

1543
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 8: Mike?

1544
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 16: When I saw you could vouch for people to sign

1545
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 16: them up to vote vouch, are you kidding me? I

1546
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 16: there's no way. You know, when you and I do

1547
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 16: do shows and different things and reports, we always like, okay,

1548
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 16: we got to verify this to make sure it's sure.

1549
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,480
Speaker 16: It's not a you know, some sort of a satirical

1550
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 16: piece where people are having fun with us. And the

1551
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 16: more you look at it, the more just just incredulous

1552
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 16: it becomes. And you know, it's just like in New York,

1553
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 16: where people are going to vote for and did for

1554
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 16: somebody that says I'm gonna give, give, give, without the

1555
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 16: first thought of where there's all this money coming from.

1556
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 16: You've got states like Minnesota with a governor who's either

1557
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 16: clueless or so arrogant. I don't know which that all

1558
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 16: of these billions of dollars are going out the door.

1559
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 16: It takes some kid that's I don't know how old

1560
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 16: of you is that does that investigative video that's you know,

1561
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 16: nine ten million views. Where's the state state representatives? Where's

1562
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 16: where's the congressman and senators? Where's the elected officials that

1563
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 16: you count on to oversee this from stepping forward and

1564
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 16: saying wait, you know, bull whistle time out. Something's going

1565
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 16: on here. And Mike and I are old enough to

1566
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 16: know that when you start to see something like this,

1567
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 16: it's like an iceberg. There's a whole lot more there

1568
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 16: than what you see, and it just makes you wonder

1569
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 16: not only there, but how many other states are guilty

1570
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 16: of this, and just how bad has it been?

1571
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: It's the tip of the iceberg.

1572
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: Jay and I've talked to a number of people both

1573
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: on the air and off the air this week, and

1574
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 2: actually a state senator too who called in that there's

1575
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: some something that a lot of people believe is brewing

1576
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: up in Columbus with the Somalian community, and it's pretty

1577
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: much stay tuned, you know, But I guess we'll see.

1578
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 16: I'm glad you're on top of it, Mike, I really am,

1579
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 16: because the only way we're going to know about it

1580
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,839
Speaker 16: is that people like you continue to keep us updated

1581
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 16: because you know, all of us have busy lives doing

1582
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 16: a g bazillion different things, and you know, sometimes we're

1583
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 16: guilty just skimming across the headlines and picking out what

1584
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 16: affects us or doesn't affect us, and it's another state,

1585
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 16: doesn't really affect me. But as you point out, yeah,

1586
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 16: it very well could. It's our money. Hey, Before we

1587
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 16: do the twenty twenty five year in review aviation wise.

1588
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you.

1589
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, people are still a lot of people are

1590
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: still traveling. Any tips, any warnings, anything you want to

1591
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,480
Speaker 2: say to those people that'll help them.

1592
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 16: We're getting through the Christmas end of year travel season

1593
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 16: pretty good. The TSA is reporting two point eight two

1594
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 16: point nine million people flying every day as we expect

1595
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 16: through this week up until next Monday, Tuesday and so on.

1596
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 16: The weather's been decent, it's not been horrific. We've not

1597
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 16: had any computer meltdowns like we had with the Southwest,

1598
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 16: you know three or four years ago, when the entire

1599
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 16: week of Christmas their computers were down the toilet, and

1600
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 16: most people seem to be showing up at the airports

1601
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 16: on time. The TSA is doing a good job of

1602
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 16: moving people through. No viral stories there. So yeah, I'm

1603
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 16: just kind of hoping for the next week we can

1604
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 16: continue to have decent not perfect, I mean it's weather,

1605
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 16: it's winter weather, but you know, decent enough weather that

1606
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 16: we can kind of sneak through this without any great problems,

1607
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 16: because we got through the week of Thanksgiving other than

1608
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 16: that last weekend with issues, and that's the busiest travel

1609
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 16: week of the year, followed by the last two weeks

1610
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 16: of December, and so far, so good. We just wanted

1611
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 16: to continue once we get January first, second, third right

1612
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,879
Speaker 16: in there. That begins the slower January typical travel season

1613
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 16: that a lot of people that are looking for a

1614
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 16: bargain will travel because it's where you know, airfares are

1615
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 16: cheaper and you've got cheaper car rentals, cheaper hotels. It's

1616
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 16: like May in September months that very few people travel,

1617
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 16: and it's where you get the best deals and if

1618
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 16: you're flexible, yeah, save money and travel when other people aren't.

1619
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: You know, twenty twenty five looking at the Year in Review.

1620
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: One story that's obviously not a good one are the

1621
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: plane crashes. I mean, wow, what it was is a situation.

1622
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: Is there any reason that people are forth as to

1623
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:01,919
Speaker 2: why that's happening?

1624
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 16: You know, Mike, we went from February of two thousand

1625
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 16: and nine until this last this January without a single

1626
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 16: accident as far as an airplane disaster. Now, we did

1627
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 16: have a passenger that died I think it was Jennifer

1628
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:24,440
Speaker 16: reared In on a Southwest flight where the engine fell apart, decompressed,

1629
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 16: and you know, she died as a result of that happening.

1630
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 16: But as far as the last commercial jet accident where

1631
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 16: a life was lost was sixteen years ago. So we

1632
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 16: get real complacent in thinking, Okay, it's routine, it's a

1633
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 16: routine routine, and then all of a sudden in January,

1634
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 16: we had sixty seven people dying that DC plane crash

1635
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 16: on January twenty ninth. Then we have just days later

1636
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 16: February six that the Baring flight four forty five in

1637
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 16: Alaska where ten people were killed. And then days later

1638
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 16: in Toronto we had that airplane land short of a runway,

1639
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 16: rolls down the runway. You know, nobody died, but eighteen

1640
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 16: people injured, and you're thinking, oh my gosh, what's going on.

1641
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 16: And of course the idiots in DC were like, well,

1642
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 16: ever since President Trump's been elected blob.

1643
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 7: I mean, just please, yeh, that's.

1644
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 16: Beyond asenine, so just shut up. But the point is

1645
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 16: that we have gone so long, so far that the

1646
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 16: FAA typically will confuse the idea that we have had

1647
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 16: no accidents as we're as safe as we need to be,

1648
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 16: and that is so dangerous. I remember talking with a

1649
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 16: lot of FAA and airline officials prior to nine to

1650
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 16: eleven about the fact we weren't screening check luggage and

1651
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 16: the huge security implications that were existing domestically when you

1652
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 16: had you know, two million people a day flying and

1653
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 16: not a single piece of luggage was being X rayed

1654
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,799
Speaker 16: at the time, and there was a time before positive

1655
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 16: passenger bag match, which means if you didn't get on

1656
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 16: the plane your bags, then you can actually check in

1657
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 16: for a flight and go home and your bags are

1658
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 16: on the plane unscreened. And the FA officials that I

1659
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 16: constantly were battling, said Jake, the fact that people think

1660
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 16: they're being screened is enough, because we really can't screen

1661
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 16: bags because then you'd have to have passengers showing up

1662
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 16: five hours in advance. The lines would be horrific. It

1663
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 16: would impact aviation to a way that it would change

1664
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 16: things where we could not manage it. So we're not

1665
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 16: going to do it. And I was holding my breath

1666
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 16: anytime there was a plane crash thinking is this the

1667
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 16: first of fifty to come out of the sky.

1668
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 8: Now took the.

1669
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 16: Attacks of nine to eleven before the FAA decided, Okay,

1670
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 16: we've really got to do something. Now we're going to

1671
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 16: start screening luggage. But even after the bombing of Panem

1672
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 16: one or three over lockerby Scotland, all those lives were lost,

1673
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 16: the National Transportation Safety Board, the all star team who

1674
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 16: I cannot speak highly enough of, comes out and says

1675
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 16: we need to start screening check bags. And the FAA said, well,

1676
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 16: we'll take it under advisement. We're not going to but

1677
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 16: here's what we're going to do. Instead of screening bags

1678
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 16: like we should. This is the perception of let's do

1679
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 16: something versus doing something. We're going to ask passengers three

1680
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 16: very probing questions. Did you pack the bag yourself? Has

1681
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 16: it been in your possession? The whole time, has anybody

1682
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 16: unknown to you come up and given you anything to

1683
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 16: put in your bag like some terrasts is going to

1684
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 16: absolutely say every single thing, honestly, And that's that's how

1685
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 16: we responded with the perception of doing something versus making

1686
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 16: things safer. And thank god now we do screen check bags.

1687
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 16: But Mike, when it comes to the DC plane crash,

1688
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 16: we knew for years that the military traffic in the

1689
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 16: commercial air traffic was so entwined that we were on

1690
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 16: borrow time. The fact that you had airplanes that were

1691
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 16: landing with aircraft coming across the water, there a lot

1692
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 16: of them shuttling important so to speak, congressmen and women

1693
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 16: back and forth to where they needed to be. That

1694
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 16: even though pilots said, this is one of the worst

1695
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 16: airports to land in, it's one we've got to divert

1696
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 16: more at the last minute than any other airport. You

1697
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 16: had the situation where you know, this helicopter is not

1698
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 16: where it should be. Get a pilot that wasn't really

1699
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 16: responding to the instructor trainer that was with her at

1700
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 16: the time, and you end up having an aircraft that's

1701
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 16: not where it should be, impacting an arriving American Airlines

1702
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 16: Regional Jet, and you have sixty seven lives lost in

1703
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 16: an airport that we knew we had problems with. Then

1704
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 16: they come out with the big beautiful bill that President

1705
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 16: Trump has put forward. Mike was in there, there's a provision.

1706
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 16: This is a three thousand page thing that's landed on

1707
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 16: the desk and cucked within.

1708
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 1: There our actual.

1709
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 7: Wording.

1710
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 16: It's hard for me to even think this that's going

1711
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 16: to reduce the restrictions even more. In DC, it was

1712
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 16: so bad the National Transportation Safety Board chair came out

1713
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 16: and said, time out, this is wrong.

1714
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 8: Mike.

1715
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 16: I can't tell you that anytime I ever remembered in

1716
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 16: the last thirty to forty years that an NTSB sitting

1717
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 16: chair has come out to comment on something legislatively that's

1718
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 16: taking place. But she did, saying this can't happen. And

1719
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 16: I really hope that we don't allow the airlines or

1720
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 16: airports to tell the government what to do the other

1721
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 16: way around, because we simply can't be put in a

1722
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 16: position where we're going to make things worse than what

1723
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 16: they've been. There's just no issues for that.

1724
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: Not a good idea, Jay, I know, you know that

1725
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 2: the one thing that I'm hearing a lot just from

1726
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: people that travel, and I know the airlines continue to

1727
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 2: make frequent flyer programs harder. Do you think we're headed

1728
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 2: towards where they just get rid of them?

1729
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 16: Well, they don't. They can't get rid of them. They

1730
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 16: make so much money. Mike, you ahead of time when

1731
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,799
Speaker 16: airlines couldn't make money at all. Then in twenty twelve

1732
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 16: they start these ancillary fees where we're going to now

1733
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 16: start forging you to check a bag and seating all this,

1734
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 16: And then they started up with the credit cards and

1735
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 16: kind of became banks where you know every dollar you

1736
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 16: charge it's a frequent flyer mile. And airlines are starting

1737
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 16: to make so much money. You'd Delta Airlines United last

1738
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 16: year that within a single quarter reporting a profit.

1739
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Of a billion dollars.

1740
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 16: Now they don't get that by hauling us from here

1741
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 16: to Orlando and back. They're getting that from a lot

1742
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 16: of these other types of things that are connected with

1743
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 16: these freekom flyer programs. Now, airlines are the most arrogance

1744
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 16: entity that you can think of, and they've continued to

1745
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 16: make things harder and harder to achieve the upper status

1746
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 16: that so many frequent travelers have been able to achieve

1747
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 16: over the years. And what it used to be is

1748
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 16: if you are a top top top frekome flyer and

1749
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 16: you booked a coach ticket, you could show up and

1750
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 16: because of your status and how much money you give

1751
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 16: the airlines every year, if there's a seat in first class,

1752
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 16: they will complementarily put you there as they thank you

1753
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 16: for being a loyal, top top frequent flyer. But not anymore.

1754
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 16: Now the airlines are boarding these individuals. They're getting on

1755
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 16: a plane after being told they can't be upgraded. They

1756
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 16: sit down and coach and see empty seats in first class,

1757
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 16: and airlines are saying, no, no, no, You've got to

1758
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 16: pay for those. Either burn some miles or pay extra

1759
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 16: bucks to sit in a seat that we used to

1760
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 16: give you for free. Airlines are taking off. Airlines at

1761
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 16: customers so much, making it harder to get the miles,

1762
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 16: harder to use them. And Mike, we're filling up their planes.

1763
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 16: I mean eighty half percent of the flights are filled.

1764
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 16: There's zero incentive for airlines to stop treating us like crap.

1765
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 16: So as long as we keep showing up, I mean,

1766
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,759
Speaker 16: they're laughing at us. And that's why when these surveys

1767
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 16: on customer service come out ranking the world's top twenty airlines.

1768
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 16: From a customer service standpoint, I laugh when people say, hey,

1769
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 16: did any US carriers make that top twenty on how

1770
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 16: many did? I'm like, we're nowhere near the top twenty

1771
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 16: because the customer service means you're going to be treated

1772
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 16: like you're appreciated, and Mike, they don't do it, and

1773
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 16: it just aggravates me to no end. And that's why

1774
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 16: I tell people, if you've got to complaint with an airline,

1775
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 16: don't you dare complain to the airline. Go to dot

1776
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 16: dot gov in the upper box at the top, just

1777
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 16: type in airline complaint. Very easy to fill out online

1778
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 16: forum appears takes just a couple of minutes, put in

1779
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 16: your confirmation number and briefly explain what happened. Then your

1780
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 16: complaint goes to the Department of Transportation, who then goes

1781
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 16: to the airline on our behalf. Now, I'm on national

1782
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 16: shows all the time and I mentioned this, and I

1783
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 16: hear from airline friends all over the country saying, Jay,

1784
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 16: shut up. Stop telling people that there's too much paperwork involved.

1785
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 16: And my response is, stop treating us like crap and

1786
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 16: I'll stop talking about it, but as long as you do, yes,

1787
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 16: dot dot gov is the place you need to go.

1788
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: There you go.

1789
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 2: Hey, we're out of time, man, I appreciate this. It's

1790
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: been very helpful. Thank you so much time. Good to

1791
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 2: talk to you. Okay, thank you you too. Yeah, I

1792
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 2: tell you what. It's an adventure anymore flying. Although I've

1793
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 2: had some pretty good luck lately.

1794
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1795
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 2: It just seems like they're just they're out to get

1796
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: your money anyway they can coming up, like Jay said,

1797
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: with these things. Oh we got a charge of this

1798
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: much for this bag. And I'll tell you I'm old enough.

1799
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 2: You remember when flying was a big deal, man, People

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01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 2: got dressed up for it, the stewardess as if you will.

1801
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: I know they don't like that. And there's some men

1802
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: now were very complimentary and they did their job too.

1803
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Times have changed. That's not the only thing. But it's

1804
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: just a good idea. The service has been cut in

1805
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 2: so many things. Hey, speaking of cutting, I'm going to

1806
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 2: cut out of here. We're done. I will be back tomorrow.

1807
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for slowly seven hundred WLW