1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Friday night. Good to have you along with us. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: I am so pleased to hear that the jam on 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: the five Freeway northbound and southbound leaving San Diego into 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: Orange County has finally been I mean, the sigal art 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: has been called off. We're trying to learn and Mark 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Ronner will update us coming up in just a few minutes. 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: But if you learned before the newscast, Mark, let us 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: know how it was resolved. We know there was a 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: jumper on the overpass since twelve thirty this morning, and 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: people were sitting in traffic four hours from if you know, 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: the area from the eight oh five split up to 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: del Mar, which is a goodly amount of length of 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: space and really very little in between. So it's not 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of you know, exits, Not much 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: can do and a lot of people very very frustrated. 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: And the way this was handled by CHP is causing 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: a lot of questions and it's troublesome because obviously somebody 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: threatening to drump. It's that time of year, this happens 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: every Christmas. People get holiday blues. Depression is a real 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: thing and We don't want people to take their lives 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: because they're depressed about the holidays. 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: That's terrible. Don't want that to happen. But you will 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: lose compassion exponentially as. 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: You sit there, hour after hour after hour watching the 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: CHP essentially do nothing. Now, we've talked to CHP officers 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: about this, and I understand what their job is in 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: these situations. Their priority is life. Their priority is protecting 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: the life of that individual, and that's what their orders are. 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: And track and delay and you being late to go 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: home to dinner is not It can't be their priority. 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: And I respect that I do right, But everything has 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: a point. And I mean I watched this. I watched 34 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: it since twelve thirty, so it went from the middle 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: of the day to sunset to pitch black. It is 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: certainly easier to get somebody off the overpass during the 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: daylight hours than it is at night. And here it 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: is nine o'clock in southern California and it just finally 39 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: got resolved. Again. I don't know how it resolved. We 40 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: all hope that it was resolved in a nice way, 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: but none. Nevertheless, it's over and now traffic is moving, 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: but a lot of people's Friday nights were really upended. 43 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: I know people that had children coming back from camp 44 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: on a school bus that were stuck on the school 45 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: bus for hours, and of course cars out of gas 46 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: and cars ran out of power, and so now they're 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: disabled on the side of the road. So people got 48 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 3: to go get those cars and tow trucks, and everybody 49 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: is scratching their head wondering, isn't there any way to 50 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: drag some kind of large trampoline and put it under 51 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: the overpass, like this's gotta be away. In all the 52 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: movies that we see Lethal Weapon, the exact same thing 53 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: happened to mel Gibson, exactly the same thing. It was 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 3: Christmas time and Leth the Weapon as well. That's right, 55 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: Leth The Weapon is a Christmas movie. And uh, you know, 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Websen went up there and said, come on, now, it's 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: a crazy time of the year, get off the ledge. 58 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: And the guy said, now I'm gonna jump, and you know, 59 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: he tried to talk him off, and then finally mel 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Gibson said, you know what, do you really want to jump? 61 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: That's fine, let's jump. And they jumped, and Danny Glover 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: watched and he said, oh, I'll believe this. And what happened. 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: The fire department inflated this giant air mattress and they 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: fell into the air mattress and everything was fine. 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: Now Gibson wasn't hurt, the jumper wasn't hurt. 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: And all I could think of all day watching this, 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: why don't they inflate the same air mattress they used 68 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: in lethal weapon In all the movies that we saw 69 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: of the you know, whenever there was a house fire 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: and there is this you know, mother and the baby 71 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: in the second story, you know, window of the house fire, 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: and the fire trucks come in the fire brigade and 73 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: they have like this huge circle, like a trampoline without feet, 74 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: without legs, and all the firefighters are holding the huge 75 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: circle and they're saying, jump, we'll catch you, don't worry. Jump, 76 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: And eventually the lady jumps with the baby and the 77 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: firefighters catcher and horay, everybody's safe. And where's that? Why 78 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: don't they have that? 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: As all of the do none of these things exist with. 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: All the technology that's out there, there isn't some way 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: to shoot a net around the guy so that he 82 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: gets stuck to the side of the overpass. Somebody called 83 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: in and said, why don't they just I mean, the 84 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: freeway has stopped, so there are no cars moving, and 85 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: the only way you really die when you jump off 86 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: the overpass is then get hit by a car that's 87 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: going sixty five miles per hour. But since no cars 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: are moving, he's probably not gonna die. He probably will 89 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: just break his leg. So they said, why don't you 90 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: just pull two like like trucks, like eighteen wheeler trucks, 91 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: and just park them under the overpass real close together, 92 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: like inches apart. So now when he falls, he'll fall 93 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: on the top of a truck. He'll fall like eight 94 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: feet and then hit him with a stun gun or something. 95 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: So he gets off and falls down, and you could 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: even put it in like an air mattress on top 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: of the truck. 98 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, get a little creative about this. 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: So this idea that well, the order order of the 100 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: day for HP is to make sure that he stays alive. 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: That's fine, that's noble, but we got to get a 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: little creative because there's too much going on, too many 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: people that were Really it's more than an inconvenience when 104 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: you're talking twelve thirty to nine o'clock in southern colg 105 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: I mean that's a shift. Twelve to eight is an 106 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: eight hour shift. So we had to pay the CHP 107 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: officers over time. Nobody thought of coming coming up with 108 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: a trampoline or a balloon or something. And Friday night 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: is over now for everybody except for the people that 110 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: lived in the ocean side. They had it. They had 111 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: it made the people. While all this was going on, 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: the people that lived in the ocean side, they were 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: literally drag racing on the northbound five because you could 114 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: you could literally open up the engine. That would tonight 115 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: would have been the night if you lived in the 116 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: oceanside hot on the Fire Freeway, it's it's a smooth 117 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: sailing up to San Clementy. 118 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun, all right, So we'll 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: get the. 120 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: Latest and find out what happened. But I do hope 121 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: it was resolved in a nice way. But going forward, 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: we got to use technology. I don't know, I see, 123 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: you know, Batman had all kinds of things in his 124 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: bat utility belt that you know. I understand that that's 125 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: a fictional character, but we could glean a couple of 126 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: good ideas from Batman. 127 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: That's for sure, so we'll do that coming up next. 128 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: Also the e bike. We got to get to the 129 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: e bike story. 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: All these e bikes are going to be on the 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: road after Christmas break because everybody's getting one for Christmas, 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: and we'll tell you all about it and how everybody's 133 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: going crazy about it. 134 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: We'll do that next Blue Penrose on k I Am 135 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: six forty. 136 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty demand. 137 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: Blue Penrose on a Friday night. Good to have you 138 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: along with us. The e bike will be the big 139 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: gift this year. 140 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: E bikes are a top holiday pick this season and 141 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: it might even end up. 142 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: Under your tree. 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's buying them now. I have expertise in this. 144 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: I have a sixteen year old son, a fifteen year 145 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: old son and. 146 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: A twelve year old son, and we've. 147 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: Gone through the whole e bike experience from I hate 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: these bikes. You're never getting one to all right, if 149 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: you want to buy a used one, I'll work with 150 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: you and we'll fix it up together and get father 151 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: son time in the garage and I can finally teach 152 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: you how to properly use a wrench to you know. 153 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Now they're buying. 154 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: Faster ones and so I know the whole e bike situation, 155 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: and it is a challenge. There's no question about it. 156 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: They're dangerous as hell, and really nobody should be on them. 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: I mean you should have you should need a motorcycle 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: license to ride a n EE bike. They're just basically 159 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: a slower motorcycle. And certainly twelve year old should not 160 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: be on ey bikes. There's no question about it. But 161 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: it happened too fast. Sometimes technology happens so fast that 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: we don't get to stop it for a second and say, 163 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: wait a minute. I get their bicycles, but they're they're 164 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: assisted bicycles, so they go faster, and they're technically a bicycle, 165 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 3: so they can be in the bike laying on the road. 166 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: But like, it just happened too fast. We and now 167 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: we're behind it, and now they're out there and we 168 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. So we got to deal 169 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: with it because it went right by, it passed us 170 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: on the left. 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: The e bikes passes on the left, and the kids. 172 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: Were smarter than we were. And the people that sell 173 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: these bikes marketed them as bicycles, and the bicycle community 174 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: in southern California was so happy that there were more 175 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: bicycles out there, and they're constantly putting bike lanes out 176 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: there and putting restrictions on motorists, and everybody's got to 177 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,239 Speaker 3: be a bicycle person because we want people on bicycles, 178 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: and the e bike is a bicycle legally, so now 179 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: it's allowed to be in a bike lane, just like 180 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: a bicycle is allowed in a bike lane. You would 181 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: never tell a twelve year old they can't ride a bike. 182 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: We're trying to get the kids out of the house 183 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: and off of their devices. That was the argument that 184 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: I made to my wife. You're the one that wants 185 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: them off these damn devices, So now they're on a bicycle. 186 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: Yet I can't stand these damn e bikes. Well, like 187 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: in the. 188 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: World, they're kind of the same thing, and now they're 189 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: out there. 190 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: So the way this works is there are e bikes, 191 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: then there are faster e bikes, and then there are 192 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: effectively dirt bikes that look like e bikes but don't 193 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: have any pedals, and those are the ones you're not 194 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: allowed to have anywhere on the road. But this is 195 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: too much. I mean, law enforcement is slowly catching up 196 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: to it, but really, law enforcement doesn't want to deal 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: with this, but they also don't want to deal with 198 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: the injury. So we are just chasing our tail on 199 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: this one. 200 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: And if you're shopping for one this season, first test 201 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: drug before you buy. Second, and make sure it's a 202 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: legal e bike and ann e motorcycle or a legal bike. 203 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is great, This is great advice. This would 204 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: be CBS's This is alex Lie on CBS. You go 205 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: to the CHP website and you try and figure out, 206 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: because I did, you try and figure out if what 207 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: you're buying is actually legal. It is impossible to figure 208 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: this out. Impossible, and it doesn't seem to matter for 209 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: any other parent as far as I can see, or 210 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: maybe all the other parents don't know either, like the 211 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: only kids. The only ones that know are the kids, 212 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: and they're not going to tell you, and the guy 213 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: selling you the e bike is not going to tell you. 214 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: And that's if you go buy it in a store, 215 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: which many of you aren't because they're too expensive. But 216 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: as soon as a kid gets an e bike, they 217 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: want a faster e bike, so they sell on you know, 218 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: offer up or on Marketplace or whatever the new platform is, 219 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: and your kid takes his birthday money and his Christmas 220 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: money and goes goes and buy a used one, but 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: it's been modified, and it goes fast. 222 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: It's really challenging, very very challenging. 223 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: Does it have pedals? Does it fit within the three 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: classifications of e bikes? If it goes faster than twenty 225 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: miles per hour, it's not a class wandered? 226 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: Class two? 227 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 5: If it goes faster than twenty eight, it's not a 228 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: class three. 229 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I can confirm that it does or does not 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: have pedals? That I can do the rest I think 231 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: you'll lost. 232 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: Does it have pedals? Does it fit within the three 233 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: classifications of e bikes? If it goes faster than twenty 234 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: miles per hour, it's not a class wandered? Class two? 235 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 5: If it goes faster than twenty eight, it's not a 236 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: class three. 237 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: Mario, did you catch all that? Can you hand me 238 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: my radar gun so I can see if it's going 239 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: twenty eight miles per hour or twenty nine miles per hour? Well, like, 240 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: this is the ridiculus. How am I supposed to know that? 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: As a parent? You're supposed to How fast does this go? 242 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: Goes up to twenty five miles? 243 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 6: Now? 244 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: All right? Because if it goes over twenty nine, then 245 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: I've broken the law. Like that's impossible to figure out 246 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: three classes. Twenty miles per hour, twenty eight miles per hour. 247 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: That's before the kids modify it, and it all just 248 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: becomes a real challenge. Do you have any bike? I 249 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: do not? Yeah, I mean that you see them around. 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: Have you anybody you know riding one around? No? Not 251 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: at all. 252 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Actually it's not popular around my my group of friends. 253 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Actually no, because you're a grown up. 254 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: But let me tell you. When I dropped the kids 255 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: off in school, they're all zipping around. And I understand 256 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: why people that drive are going crazy, because kids eat well, 257 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: even bicycles. Kids don't really like yield to you know, driveways, 258 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: people backing out of driveways or cars, you know, going 259 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: back out of a strip mall like into traffic. It's 260 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: just it's very dangerous and it's a nerve wracking watching, 261 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: especially around a school, a middle school or an elementary school, 262 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: watching all these kids zipping around on these bikes. But 263 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: they can go up to twenty five miles per hour 264 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: or twenty miles an hour. I guess you said, he 265 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: said there, that's fast, especially when you got like a 266 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: twelve year old or a thirteen year old on it 267 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: who's light and you know, doesn't weigh a whole lot. 268 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: So these these are effectively mopeds. 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: And I had a moped as a kid, and let 270 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: me tell you, I had to have it had to 271 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: be registered, and I think I had to have some 272 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: form of lights, and maybe I had to have a 273 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: learner's permit or something. But I'll tell you what I 274 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: had to I had to carry insurance because I remember 275 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: my mother said, look, if you're gonna I'll get this 276 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: rider for this, I'll add the moped on to my insurance, 277 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: but you have to pay it. And I was working 278 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: at Burger King and I had to pay my mom 279 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: the insurance for my moped. But it was like an 280 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: organized thing. These e bikes don't are not in those 281 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: categories because they're not mopeds or motorcycles. They are sold 282 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: as bicycles with a battery. Here's what happened. 283 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: Batteries got really good while we weren't looking. 284 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: For the most part, what's your experience with batteries, Like 285 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: batteries go in remote controls. That's pretty much it. I 286 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: don't what else do I use a battery for? Like 287 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: if the remote control doesn't work and I can't go 288 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: up and down with my channels, then I go get 289 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: two batteries and that's it. Powering a remote control is 290 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: not a lot of power. When a battery powers a motor, 291 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: it requires a lot of power. 292 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: We just put in a touch. 293 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: Dead bolt in my house at home, and because my 294 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: wife is done with keys and she wants to be 295 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: able to let other people get in and put out 296 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: a coat. So you just you know you've seen these things, right, 297 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: you just you hit four numbers and the dead bolt turns. Okay, 298 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: that the bat it's battery operated, but it's four double 299 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: A batteries. That's a lot, and those batteries will drain 300 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure in like less than six months, depending on 301 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: how much we open and close the lock. And that's 302 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: because those batteries are turning a motor. Battery technology has 303 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: gotten so good that you can have a battery that 304 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: is light enough to place on a bicycle and then 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: add one hundred and twenty pound child on it and 306 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: it can still power that back wheel to zip a 307 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: kid twenty miles per hour for many hours. So the 308 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: battery technology has gotten so good that they have figured 309 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: out a way to attach it to a bike and 310 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: now effectively you got little mini motorcycles. 311 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: Also check up on your local loss. Some cities including 312 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: Chula Vista, San Marcos, and Coronado don't allow anyone under 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: twelve to ride an e bike. So if you're wrapping 314 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: an e bike this Christmas, consider doing your research and 315 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: adding a safety course to the gifts. 316 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 317 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: I don't know where the safety course is going to 318 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: be located. 319 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love these cities that are now making it 320 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: illegal to ride an ee bike under twelve, So how 321 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: is that going to work? 322 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that these cities have thought that through. 323 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: I don't disagree. If you want the cutoff to be twelve, 324 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I think it should be way higher. The idea that 325 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: a twelve and thirteen year old are going to be 326 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: able to ride at twenty miles per hour on an 327 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: ee bike more responsibly than an eleven year old and 328 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: eleven months is I think fantasy. But how exactly is 329 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: the twelve year old going to prove that he's twelve 330 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: to the cop Since my twelve year old doesn't have 331 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: a license or what I mean, what would a twelve 332 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: year old have in his pocket to show the cop 333 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: that Yeah, no, no, you're an officer. I'm twelve. I'm 334 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: legally allowed to ride this bike, so that's not gonna work. 335 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break. We got more on 336 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: the e bike story and what cities are doing about it, 337 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: and we'll take your telephone calls as well on the 338 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: iHeart relap Blue Penrose on KFI AM six forty Live 339 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 340 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 341 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: Blue Penrose on a Friday night. Good to have you 342 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: along with us talking about the e bikes. They're gonna 343 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: be the big hit under the Christmas tree. 344 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: The bikes are a top holiday pick this season and 345 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: might even end up under your truth. 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: A lot of people are not happy about having more 347 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: e bikes on the road. 348 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: Guys, if your son has an e bike, it's illegal. 349 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 7: Illegal means basically, if it gets over twenty miles an 350 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: hour and has a motor, it is illegal over twenty miles, 351 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 7: and they all are over twenty miles an hour. 352 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the call. I think what you meant 353 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: to say was it's not street legal, like you can't 354 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: have it on the road where other bicycles are and 355 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: I understand that. 356 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 8: Putting your twelve year old kid on an ebunk, or 357 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 8: a thirteen year old or a fourteen year old, fifteen, 358 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 8: sixteen year old, the riders of these things are an 359 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 8: absolute nuisance. They should be in no way anywhere in 360 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 8: the hands of anyone under sixteen years old. Get a license, 361 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 8: outlaw them and let they have a license. 362 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. I'm with you three years ago. 363 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm with you five years ago. When this first hit 364 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: the scene, somebody should have said these are not bicycles 365 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: just because they have pedals. No one's pedaling an e 366 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: bike and they're really dangerous, so nobody got their hands 367 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: around it. Now they're everywhere and you can't just ban 368 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: them now, so we got to work around it. 369 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 7: Heyel I had one of these e bikes going by 370 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 7: me the other day day at thirty five miles an 371 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 7: hour and I could not keep up with the kid. 372 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: How fast are these bikes actually able to go? Well, 373 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: thirty five is pretty fast. I don't think you were 374 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: with any first off, you couldn't keep up with thirty 375 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: five miles per hour? What are you driving? I mean, 376 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: that's a pretty bad car. But there, yeah, there are 377 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: effect like the third class of e bikes are not 378 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: e bikes. These are the ones that don't have pedals 379 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: and go really fast. They're effectively dirt bikes. Like there 380 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: are areas in southern California where you can ride dirt bikes, 381 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: and they're areas where you can but anywhere that you 382 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: can trail ride. Remember like mountain biking. That was a 383 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: thing for a hot minute. Right, what is a mountain bike. 384 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: It's a bicycle and you got pedals, and the pedals, 385 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: you know, you really dig dig dig dig dig and 386 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: really a well, any bike go there because it's a 387 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: bike trail, right, Well, an e bike can go on 388 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: a bike trail because it's a bicycle. But you don't 389 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: have to dig dig dig dig dig with the pedals 390 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: because you just you just turn the throttle and you 391 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: can have a whole lot of fun. Well, you can't 392 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: take dirt bikes up there because the motor is loud 393 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: and the cops will come. Guess what they now have bike? 394 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're e bikes that are emotos. 395 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to call the Surons. The Surons are amazing. 396 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: I mean they are thirty five hundred dollars. But they're 397 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: absolutely amazing, and they are as fast as a dirt 398 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: bike and as powerful as a dirt bike. And guess what, 399 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: they're silent, so the cops will never get you. And 400 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: that's what's happening now. You can also they sell, believe 401 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: it or not, dummy pedals where you can put pedals 402 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: on that don't do anything except any authority that is 403 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: looking to see if you're riding an e bike with 404 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: pedals or not, because the ones without pedals would certainly 405 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: not be street legal. 406 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: They might pass you over. So it's kind of like 407 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, an ey bike, great architector going on there. 408 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: So we're up here in Newport Beach and inside of 409 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 6: our condo complex, there were some fourteen and fifteen year 410 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 6: old kids that were always running through the complex on 411 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: very fast e bikes and one day one of these 412 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: kids out on the street lost control, hit his head. 413 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 3: That's right, that's what happens. So I have this argument 414 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: of my house. My wife and I probably have thought about. 415 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: This more than any one single thing. 416 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: Because of the bikes and the danger and the helmets 417 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: and the speed. Right, I get it, they're gonna fall, 418 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: They're gonna hit their head and be hurt and then 419 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: everyone's gonna cry. Kids also fall, like they you could 420 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: go twenty miles per hour on a bicycle on a 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 3: hill because I did it as a kid and not 422 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: have helmets and fall. So this is really I mean, 423 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 3: I've had these, had these arguments. I mean, originally you 424 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: were only allowed to ride the e bike like in it. 425 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: There were parameters that my wife said, you can only 426 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: ride it in the community and stay for the most 427 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: part in the cul de Sac. And when you tell kids, 428 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: especially boys, I have three, and I don't know if 429 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: I have good father skills. I'll let you know if 430 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: when they're alive at eighteen, I will then say that 431 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 3: I was a good father. But there are those of 432 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: you that have younger boys you don't know as much 433 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: as I do. And those of you that have raised 434 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: boys and they lived, then you know more than me. 435 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: But I'm doing my best. I know this. If you 436 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: agree with mom and say yeah, you got to stay 437 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: right here in the cul de Sac, boys will build 438 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: ramps in front of your house and that's what they'll 439 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: do with the e bike. 440 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: They'll pretend they're evil and evil. 441 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: And then you got to go out there and break 442 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: that up and say all right, all right, but no, no, 443 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: don't be doing jumps. Just bike around. Go bike around 444 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: if you want to bike around, but don't be doing 445 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: these jumps. So it's either jumps, you know, in front 446 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: of the house, or distance e biking far away where 447 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: you can't see them. You can never have it both ways. 448 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: Let the kids have their bikes. We were all a 449 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: little reckless when we were kids, but we all survived. Anyways, 450 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: your show, I appreciate the call. But the e bike 451 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: thing here is Julian. Julian is fifteen and he's getting 452 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: an e bike for Christmas. As I grew up, all 453 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: my friends are getting one, you know, trying to be 454 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: a part of that community of e bikes. 455 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the community of e bikes is a thing. 456 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: I usually don't like that phrase community because it doesn't exist. 457 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: But there is a community of e bike owners and 458 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: they all connect on social media. And and there I 459 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: mean children, young adults, mostly boys, watch other people ride 460 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: e bikes and do ride ups all over southern California 461 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: and right here in Los Angeles here is Bob Harrow. 462 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: He owns one on one. 463 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: Bikes and he says, you got to teach the kids 464 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: how to ride him. 465 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: As many of us see, there's lots of kids in 466 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: our neighborhoods in city streets riding e bikes. Most probably 467 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: are not. 468 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Obeying all of the rules of the road because they 469 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: don't know the rules of the road. 470 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 3: No, because they're twelve. But here we are and like 471 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: it or lump it, regardless of what they do at 472 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 3: city Hall, and regardless of the cops and the threats 473 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: of impounding the e bikes and the screams of nervous 474 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: drivers out there watching these kids take all kinds of 475 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: wild chances there will be more e bikes after Christmas 476 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: break and everybody goes back to school in January because 477 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: the sales are through the roof. They are the cabbage 478 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: Patch Doll of twenty twenty five Lou Penrose on KFI 479 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: AM six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 480 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 481 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose with you on a Friday night talking about 482 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: the e bikes and everybody's getting their kids e bikes 483 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: for Christmas and it's driving everybody nuts. 484 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 7: Guice, I know you got three sons. You're trying to 485 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: be as smart as possible. But you know they're illegal. 486 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 7: I guarantee your kids not driving around in a Class 487 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 7: one Class two E bike. He would get so much 488 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 7: craft from his buddies. So all the bikes a illegal. 489 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 7: And if you want to know, just get on the 490 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 7: bike yourself. If it goes over twenty miles an hour 491 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 7: with the hand throttle, it's illegal. 492 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. It's it's yeah, it's not street legal, 493 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: is what you're saying. And I hear you. I don't 494 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: know if it goes twenty miles an hour or not. Look, 495 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: I think I think they look unsafe. I don't think 496 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: it's a good idea. But they're everywhere. It's called ubiquitous. 497 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: They're just there. 498 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: Like we missed it. We didn't gate keep well enough. 499 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 3: They got them out onto the marketplace and pretended they 500 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: were bicycles and the kids got on them. And you're right. 501 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: If they're riding around in a rad or a rad plus, 502 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: they're gonna get crap from their friends, or they're going 503 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: to figure out a way to modify it. I can't 504 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: keep up with the modifications. And that's how I got 505 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: into it. My oldest wanted one. All his friends had one, 506 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: and they wanted to go to the beach, and he 507 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: felt like he was missing out, and he said, Dan, 508 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: let me buy a used one and then help me 509 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: fix it. And I thought, all right. I used to 510 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 3: build engines when I was half his age. Me and 511 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: my grandfather would turn lawnmower engines into go karts and 512 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: dirt bikes. And I did all that. 513 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: And that's where I learned tools and. 514 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: My love of tinkering. So this will be my opportunity 515 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: to do it with my son, because he'll have the passion. 516 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: He'll want a bike that runs. There's not a whole 517 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: lot to any bike, like the electronics of it, the 518 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: controller and the brain and the battery all comes separate, 519 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: and then the rest of it is just basically a bike. 520 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: And so as long you're buying it on the used market, 521 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 3: as long as the battery works, you're pretty much good 522 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: to go. And we bought one and it was pretty 523 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: banged up. We bought it because the kid had gotten 524 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: a faster one, which is how this all works. And 525 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: you know, my son was that. We got to spend 526 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: some father son time in the garage and got some 527 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: grease on our hands, and there he goes, and I 528 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: caught hell for my wife, but he liked it, and 529 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: then you're right. That lasted until he realized that you 530 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: could modify it to make it go faster, or he 531 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: could just buy himself a faster bike. And then so 532 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: that became my middle son's bike, and you know the 533 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: rest is history. Now they're all zipping around and I 534 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: think they all go too fast, but there's nothing you 535 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: can do about it. Definitely not buying my kid an 536 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: e bike. But what I will do is wait until 537 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: the county or city auctions them off after they impounded 538 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: all the kids Christmas presents. 539 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. 540 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: Is that how you think this works? I have news 541 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: for you. When the Christmas presents get impounded, the good 542 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: stuff doesn't go to auction. 543 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: The good stuff goes to the kids of the cops. 544 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: You don't know this. The cops kids have the best stuff. 545 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: The cops kids always have the best fireworks. The cops 546 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: kids always have the best bikes. Yeah. I grew up 547 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: across the street. My best friend his dad was a cop, 548 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: and boy did they have He had the best fireworks 549 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: every Fourth of July. You know why his father was 550 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: a cop. He had great bikes and skateboards. You know 551 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: why his father was a cop. So when they impound stuff, 552 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 3: they don't send it up. The stuff that goes out 553 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: to the auction that's the sucker stuff. I can't believe. I'm 554 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: the first to tell you that, plain and simple. Guys. 555 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 7: I've been working with e bikes for five years. If 556 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 7: the kids are fifteen and under, they should not be 557 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 7: riding around. They're dangerous as heck. And you can say 558 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 7: all you want about the parents. The parents are being 559 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: very irresponsible. The e bikes are babily basically babysitters. They 560 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: don't have to drop them off the school, they don't 561 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 7: have to drop them off to camp, to the mall 562 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 7: and what's other stuff, and they end up doing the 563 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 7: same thing. 564 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: All the kids do wheelies. 565 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about the wheelies. I do know. I've 566 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: bought new brakes a number of times because of the wheelies. 567 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: But we did wheelies on bikes. So this is and 568 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: you can say it's irresponsible parenting. You might be right. 569 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 570 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: As I said, I won't know how I did. 571 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: As a father of three sons until they're eighteen and alive. 572 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm doing my best. But here's how I explain it 573 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: to my wife, and she'll never understand because she's a girl. 574 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't outflank knucklehead when you're dealing with 575 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: young boys. You just can't. 576 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: Like I told you, you were strict where. 577 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: They can e bike and they will build ramps and 578 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 3: do jumps and they're gonna jump way higher because it's 579 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: an e bike. You can't outflank knucklehead. You just have 580 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: to stay on top of it. But you're never gonna 581 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: catch it. Young boys will do knucklehead things and think 582 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: about it. We did that too. We had what we 583 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: were building and modifying our bicycles that were not e bikes, 584 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: but they were bicycles. There was always leftover parts, and 585 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: sometimes there would be enough parts left over to build 586 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: part of a bike. And we had one of those, 587 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: me and my friends in the neighborhood. You know what 588 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: it was called. It was called the ghost bike. This 589 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: bike had two wheels and a frame and I think 590 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: a seat, no handlebars, just like just where the handlebar goes, 591 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: just like that pole in the middle, and we we 592 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: rigged up something so you could turn the steering wheel 593 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: a little bit, but it didn't have you know, handlebars. 594 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: It just had something to turn the wheel that was 595 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: inside the front fork of the frame. And oh, no chain, 596 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: so there's nothing. You're not peddling forward and you certainly 597 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: you can't reverse and go and break the back wheel. 598 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: So no chain, two wheels, frame and then something cute 599 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: to turn the front wheel as you lean forward. And 600 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: that was called the ghost bike. You know what you 601 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: did on the ghost bike, you went on ghost rides. 602 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: Ghost rides are where you dare your friend to go 603 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: further and further and further up the hill only to 604 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: ride down the hill, and you know, see if you survive. 605 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: And that's what ghost riding was. So that was dangerous 606 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: and we didn't have helmets, so that was dangerous to do, 607 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: but we did it. Some people fell, sometimes you'd leave 608 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 3: them there. That was always funny, like if somebody fell, 609 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time another group of friends called 610 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: and said, hey, we're playing street hockey. We need four 611 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: more guys. We'd be like, oh, well, we should probably 612 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: should go down the hill and help our friend, but 613 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: he'll be fine. That's the way way. Hey. We never 614 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: got to the Tailor Swift. The Travis Kelcey engagement. What 615 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: day do you think they chose? I got sixty seconds? Mario? 616 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: What day? I have no idea of the month, but 617 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: I have to say thirteen. Good for you. Nikki. What 618 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: day she's got? 619 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you cannot not say thirteen. I'm 620 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: not a fan of hers at all. 621 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: Well, so I don't know you. 622 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Is it the thirteenth. 623 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: Of That's right? Thirteen. Call it numerology, call it a 624 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: lucky number. But this number works for this girl. 625 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 9: I was born on the thirteenth. I turned thirteen on 626 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 9: Friday the thirteenth. My first album went gold in thirteen weeks. 627 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 9: Also thanks my first song that ever went number one. 628 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 9: It had a thirteen second intro. 629 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 8: And every time I've. 630 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 9: Ever won an award in an award show, I've either 631 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 9: been seated in the thirteenth the thirteenth row or row M, 632 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 9: which is the thirteenth letter. And when I won the 633 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 9: Horizon Award at the CMA Awards, the producer. 634 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: Came up to me when I was sound checking. 635 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 9: And said, all right, we're gonna go in thirteen seconds. 636 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: I would say thirteen is working for Taylor Swift. I mean, 637 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: she nailed it. That is one lucky number. 638 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: Is she going to create a thirteenth month for that wedding? 639 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. She's going to get married on June thirteenth, 640 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and I say good for her. So 641 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: we'll see where this goes. And maybe they'll have thirteen kids. 642 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I would stick with that number. 643 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 3: It is working. Lou Penrose on kf I AM six 644 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio 645 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: App KFI AM six forty on demand