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Speaker 1: Thoughts on the Kansas City Chiefs. Kind of weird week,

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Speaker 1: weird game, certainly. I think when we looked back in

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Speaker 1: May at this game, we had different anticipation of it.

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Speaker 1: I think most of the conversation was this could be

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Speaker 1: for the division, right we were talking about Christmas Night

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Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. The Broncos are going to have to show

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Speaker 1: up and have a mindset of we're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: win the division tonight, we're gonna try to basically cement

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Speaker 1: our place in the AFC West and the AFC Playoff.

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Speaker 1: And actually that's still the same remarkably, it's just under

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Speaker 1: different circumstances for the Chiefs. The same mindset needs to

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Speaker 1: be there in this matchup. But it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: weird game because they are so banged up and they're

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Speaker 1: starting this quarterback and there's a bit of the unknown

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Speaker 1: of Ola Ducan and I don't know, I watched him today.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see.

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Speaker 1: Right now or it's like Ola Dokin I think is

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Speaker 1: probably the I keep thinking of it, like the way

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Speaker 1: you just said it. I pronounced it, yeah, because a

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Speaker 1: street fighter, Yes, but I think it's old adope. And

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Speaker 1: but anyways, he's he's got limited but also hey man,

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Speaker 1: and he reads a heck of a coach and he

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Speaker 1: can scheme of play. You know, we've seen with specifically

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Speaker 1: done with Malik willis when he's had to play as

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Speaker 1: a very limited quarterback and they find ways to win games.

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Speaker 2: So there's nothing to overlook here.

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Speaker 1: But I get the sense, and we talked about in

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Speaker 1: the first hour, the Broncos are approaching this very seriously.

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Speaker 2: They understand the importance of this game.

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Speaker 1: They have very little to no wiggle room really, like,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a game you can you can give away,

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Speaker 1: and they've they've got to find a way to win it. Now,

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Speaker 1: going back to our conversation about the secondary for a second,

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Speaker 1: can you correct these things? Are these things like in

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Speaker 1: a short week or is this more of like by

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Speaker 1: next week against the Chargers. You feel pretty good about PJ.

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Speaker 3: You correct these things heading into the final game of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so some of the things you can probably well

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Speaker 4: Have some issues.

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Speaker 3: Yes you are, But here is the only thing that

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Speaker 3: really changes it is that now you're playing on the road,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be able to communicate. See the crowd

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Speaker 3: nose is going to come with the Broncos offenses on

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Speaker 3: the field with both knicks.

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Speaker 5: When the defense is on the field, you're going to

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Speaker 3: And that's what the Broncos are definitely going to need

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Speaker 3: because I've watched this Broncos defense all season long. They've

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Speaker 3: had some missteps, Guys out of the place, not playing

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Speaker 3: within the foundation of the defense, and that's gonna happen

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Speaker 5: And I say this, and it's true, you can.

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Speaker 3: Sustain and still be successful with one guy making a mistake,

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Speaker 3: but if you have two, three, four guys not communicating,

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Speaker 3: guys not being where they need to be, then those

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Speaker 3: and I think that was the most shocking thing for

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Speaker 3: social media and you got probably got some calls on

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Speaker 3: the react where people were totally upset with the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Why the defense can't They're not gonna stop everything, so

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Speaker 5: They're a team that's gonna do a great job of scheming.

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Speaker 3: You gotta tip your cap to Lim Call and Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence because they did a great job exploiting the Broncos defense.

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Speaker 3: And the one thing they did Ryan, it wasn't something

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Speaker 3: that was really, you know, out of this atmosphere.

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Speaker 5: All it was was something we saw earlier in the season.

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Speaker 3: The Colts and the Chargers did it to the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: and it's and it's really elementary. If you're facing a

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Speaker 3: good defense that can get after the quarterback with the

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Speaker 3: That's not genius, but it's really simple and it works

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Speaker 3: if you have a quarterback who was accurate and he

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and that they're playing with Watschwager. Give

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Speaker 1: give Jacksonville credit where it's to do. What do you

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Speaker 3: You know what, I think he had a solid game.

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Speaker 3: And because I'm not gonna get too high on Rally,

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Speaker 3: the things I saw with him, these are all things

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Speaker 3: the game on Sunday. The biggest thing that was glaring.

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Speaker 3: Once again, I go back to it. It was a

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Speaker 3: him back inside to what the defenders are, not outside,

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Speaker 3: is now because that dude played like the catch that

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Speaker 3: he caught against Jakwan McMillan. It was similar to the

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Speaker 3: week before Wan where Josh Tacobs caught the pass over

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Speaker 3: ball placement. You could just say from a coaching standpoint,

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Speaker 3: can't you turn around sooner? But they made plays, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great pass and great great contest

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Speaker 1: in a couple of those moments where Riley Moss missed

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Speaker 1: Riley Moss technique stuff. I'm sure that Vance Joseph is

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: He's got this like russhack test thing happened where people

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Speaker 1: I think both can be true. I mean not not

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Speaker 2: Starter for the team. So I think he's really good.

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Speaker 5: I think for me he.

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Speaker 3: Has a starter right And if I was coaching, and

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Speaker 3: there were certain things that I would find tune with

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Speaker 3: his game, but he is a solid corner. Especially playing

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Speaker 3: opposite PS two, you're gonna get every opportunity to get exposed,

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Speaker 3: a large amount of targets. And for those who are

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Speaker 3: heavily criticizing those people don't know what it's like to

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Speaker 5: It is lonely.

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Speaker 3: People see you when there's a big play, they only

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Speaker 3: works is that winning is the perfect deoderant.

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Speaker 5: Ryan when you win, all of the.

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Speaker 3: Bad things that you did, it's overshadowed because you won.

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Speaker 3: And when you lose, but bring out the spotlight right

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Speaker 5: You know, when you add to.

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Speaker 3: Seventy eleven, that's the hot light, right, because the spotlight

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Speaker 3: gonna be original recipe or extra crispy, right, that's the

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Speaker 3: way they look at it, and all it depends on

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Speaker 3: how people's come as Yes, what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: There are people who.

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Speaker 3: Were positive, there are people who were negative. So that

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Speaker 2: Shout out to seven eleven and KFC apparently did you

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Speaker 5: Yes, never know.

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Speaker 1: So many of the text line oh my gosh, Now

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Speaker 1: you guys talk about Riley Moss. That was better than

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Speaker 1: But now I feel like we you and I, especially

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Speaker 1: it's just such a polarizing topic.

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Speaker 3: It is, and I'll tell you in the dB world,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lean too heavily towards that, but I

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Speaker 3: do think he's done a solid job and people should

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Speaker 1: Drake Greenlaw not playing in this game, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it doesn't appear like he's gonna be playing in this game.

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Speaker 1: The practice report officially also, and this is another kind

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Speaker 1: of concern. One here is that Luke Wattenberg got another

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting Dad Atkins to play Pat Bryan. Of course,

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Speaker 1: But what's your reaction there to those d n p s.

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Speaker 1: Which one's going to hurt us the most.

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Speaker 5: I'll look at the center position.

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Speaker 3: I mean, developed somewhat of a chemistry with your quarterback

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Speaker 3: bon Knicks all season long. But the idea is that

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Speaker 3: doesn't make a difference Alex Forsyth. Wherever the next guy up.

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Speaker 3: You have to go in there, you have to do work.

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Speaker 3: But you do have somewhat of a slight concern. Like

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Speaker 3: and every team brings out the speakers and have this

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Speaker 3: manufactured noise doesn't do a damn thing. It doesn't equal

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Speaker 3: what you're going to hear in Kansas City, even if

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good man, you know, talking to you guys

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Speaker 1: They get still really excited about about seeing you. Guys

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Speaker 4: How about the mall? The mall as this, but we

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Speaker 4: Sometimes a little less, you know, you don't always get

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Speaker 3: I have to be finished with Shelby. I'll explain it

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Speaker 1: that moment.

439
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to explain away.

440
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you that, you know, perspective

441
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: from out here is everybody is very just dismissive of

442
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: what the Broncos have accomplished this year.

443
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Speaker 4: But are you surprised though, Like and the and the

444
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: Patriots are getting the same type of a blowbag too.

445
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 4: Like I'm one of the believers. I actually believe in

446
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: what the Broncs are doing. I think they're built the

447
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: right way to sustain a playoff run. But when your

448
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: strength of schedule is what it is, there's no question

449
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: you're going to get the you know, you're going to

450
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 4: people are going to our questioning if you're legit. But

451
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 4: that's just the nature of it when you start talking

452
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: about strengths and schedule, because you know, winning percentage of

453
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Speaker 4: your opponents and that's that's the only thing that's what

454
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Speaker 4: you're going to get out of that is, oh, they

455
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: haven't played anybody, so well they're not. You know, they're

456
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: nobody to be caared of. And you know that's what

457
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: teams are going to try to tell each other. But

458
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Speaker 4: I'm a big believing that this Broccole team is legit.

459
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Speaker 5: So Joe, you're going to be sitting.

460
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Speaker 3: In front of the television like we all going to

461
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Speaker 3: be on Thursday when Christmas in Santa comes bearing gifts

462
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: as you sit there and watch that Broncos game and

463
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Speaker 3: knowing as though the cancy the Chiefs are without two

464
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Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks, Gardan Minshaw the backup and their starting

465
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Speaker 3: quarterback Patrick.

466
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Speaker 5: Mahomes, Could anyone take.

467
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Speaker 3: Anything away from a Broncos victory when that happens?

468
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I don't think you know, and and

469
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Speaker 4: they everyone gets paid. Everyone's pros here, everyone, you know,

470
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 4: we everybody just paid. Everybody is supposed to be to

471
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Speaker 4: this level. But when you're missing you know, your all world,

472
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Speaker 4: all Pro quarterback, and then you lose the garden Minshaw,

473
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Speaker 4: who is I didn't want to a great backup, a

474
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Speaker 4: great person to step in and take over. You know

475
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Speaker 4: everyone's going to doubt you. Everyone expects this game to

476
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Speaker 4: be a blowout. Everyone aspects the Chiefs did not even compete.

477
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Speaker 4: They have injuries all over. The thing that's going to

478
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Speaker 4: make this bad is that this is a close game.

479
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Speaker 4: And that's the scary part because that's football. Anything can

480
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: happen in football, and and all it takes, like we've

481
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: seen that pit pass here, you know, that changes the

482
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: game all over. So it's the crazy part is they

483
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Speaker 4: can win this game, and if they don't win it

484
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Speaker 4: by enough, people are going to be questioning this Bronco

485
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Speaker 4: team again. So it's like it's going to be hard

486
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Speaker 4: to it's a lose lose situation because you pretty much

487
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Speaker 4: have to pretty much go in there and blow them

488
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Speaker 4: out in order for people be like, Okay, well you

489
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Speaker 4: know they had nobody on Kansas City, and then if

490
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Speaker 4: you don't, they'd be like, well they had nobody on

491
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Speaker 4: Kansas City, so why didn't you blow them out, So

492
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Speaker 4: it's a lose. It's a lose lose for the Broncos.

493
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Speaker 4: But I think they're gonna go into their handle business.

494
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Speaker 2: Well we do too.

495
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Speaker 1: I'm understanding everything that's at stake. It's an interesting conversation.

496
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Speaker 1: Last thing for me, it's an interesting conversation when it

497
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Speaker 1: comes to style points in the NFL. Like historically, I

498
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: feel like style points are for your nerds like me

499
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: to argue about on the radio and you know, for

500
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: fans to just discuss over the course of the week.

501
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: But in the end, you guys only really care about wins.

502
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Speaker 1: At least that's what I was told for my entirety

503
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Speaker 1: of life growing up watching football as players only care

504
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Speaker 1: about wins and losses.

505
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Speaker 2: But you think things style points do matter a little bit.

506
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Speaker 4: In certain situations. I would say, yes. You know, obviously,

507
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 4: when you beat a you know, a big team in

508
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: one of the top teams and you beat them down,

509
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 4: that gets you more juice than if you just beats

510
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Speaker 4: them by one, you know what I mean. But like

511
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Speaker 4: if you play a really bad team and you win

512
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Speaker 4: by one, that hurts you compared to if you win

513
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Speaker 4: by thirty. And so style points do really matter, especially

514
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Speaker 4: when you're playing these quoto on quote one hundred percent

515
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Speaker 4: guaranteed wins that people think is going to happen. But,

516
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Speaker 4: like I keep trying to tell people, everyone like, they're

517
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Speaker 4: here in the NFL for a reason. Granted it's not

518
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahons back there or even like that, but they

519
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Speaker 4: still have players there and you have to respect your opponent.

520
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Speaker 4: And I think it's really ea easy for people to

521
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Speaker 4: lose respect for teams and to think less of them

522
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Speaker 4: when you lose the big names that aren't playing. But

523
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Speaker 4: what people have to realize, though, is the big games

524
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: weren't necessarily always big names. They have to start somewhere,

525
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Speaker 4: and you don't want that somewhere to start with you.

526
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Speaker 1: I really hope, and I'm not trying to tee you

527
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: up for Baltimore material, but I really hope Miles can

528
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Speaker 1: get the sack record this week against old Man Rogers.

529
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Speaker 4: I think, I think, I think it would be a

530
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Speaker 4: really cool situation. I don't want him to be like

531
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Speaker 4: a Michael Strahan situation.

532
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Speaker 2: Yes, no, yes, you know what I mean.

533
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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody wants I don't think Miles one that.

534
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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody everybody wants them to. You know,

535
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Speaker 4: I think especially him, want to go out there and

536
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Speaker 4: earn it, and you know, and as nobody wants that

537
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Speaker 4: type of situation, but I think it's gonna be a

538
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: really cool matchup. And obviously all eyes are on the

539
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: watch to see what's going to happen, and and the

540
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Speaker 4: win is eventually when he's going to do it, and

541
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Speaker 4: I think we are all excited for it too, to

542
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: be a part of history. And you know, for me,

543
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Speaker 4: I was just like, like, this is something where I'll

544
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Speaker 4: be able to always tell my kids and family that,

545
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Speaker 4: you know, I was there our whole season on Miles broke,

546
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Speaker 4: you know, broke the record and and he you know,

547
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Speaker 4: did something special that hopefully, you know, twenty years and

548
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Speaker 4: now still stands. And I just think that this is

549
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 4: such a cool opportunity to be a part of something

550
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 4: in such a lost season, you know, we got it's this.

551
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Speaker 4: I'm really happy for him, and and you know, I've

552
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Speaker 4: always told him, and you know this, I've always told you,

553
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Speaker 4: Mauth Garrett is one of the most impressive players I've

554
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 4: ever been around. And and it's crazy, you know, it's

555
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 4: tested it to him and it's hard work that we

556
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Speaker 4: even in this position in the first place.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

558
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Speaker 1: On the text line, very quickly here, as long as

559
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Speaker 1: Shelby's not trying to say Bonix as a whole and

560
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Speaker 1: he wants to know that that, he's fine.

561
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Speaker 5: I thought he's a whole and I want that known like.

562
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Speaker 1: So, so thank you for for not putting our quarterback

563
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Speaker 1: in that kind of category, my friend.

564
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

565
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: I just want people to know I don't hate, but

566
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: I have no ill will towards the Broncos. I have

567
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: that bitter. Business is business. I get it, and like

568
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer, I'm not winning. I want the

569
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: Broncos to win, you know what I mean. I live

570
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 4: in Denver, like I'm the town does better when Denver

571
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: sports are doing good, so I'm still support. I love

572
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Speaker 4: ILL have guys on a team, Garrett Boss to look great. Friend,

573
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: I talked to the corner. You know, I have guys

574
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: on a team, so I support those guys.

575
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Speaker 2: Many Christmas to you, my friend.

576
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Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed us being able to do this all

577
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Speaker 1: year long, man, and I'm looking forward to checking in

578
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: with you again next week.

579
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Speaker 2: But enjoy your Christmas with your family. And we'll chat

580
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: with you next week.

581
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it tellingose Mery Christmas to you all. Man.

582
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Speaker 4: I appreciate everything from them, both of you.

583
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Speaker 1: All right, man, all right, take care, enjoy that good luck,

584
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: funny Santa all pro both.

585
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: That's great, man.

586
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Speaker 1: I showed yourself he's the best, and I knew. I

587
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: knew where his head was at on the tweet actually

588
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: credits more of our listeners. I actually missed it live,

589
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: but then I went back and reread all the back

590
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: and forth, and he's right. When when people just start

591
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: sort of shouting at him or telling him he's just

592
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: being a hater as a former Bronco, then he he

593
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: kind of clowned him and that's that's kind of what

594
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Speaker 1: he does. And he knew what he was doing getting

595
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Speaker 1: into it, so I didn't.

596
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Speaker 2: He didn't need me.

597
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Speaker 1: To tell him specifically, Well, what you were trying to

598
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: say was this because he was looking for some of

599
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Speaker 1: that engagement. But I agree with everything he's saying there

600
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Speaker 1: from a big picture standpoint, from what quarterbacks and how

601
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: oftentimes defense defenders, defensive backs especially get maligned in this

602
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: entire conversation, as you guys need to let up when

603
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback leads a receiver into you. No no, no, no,

604
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: no no no. It is not like that quarterback needs

605
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Speaker 1: to protect his receiver.

606
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: That's his job. And I agree with Tom Brady on

607
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: that that exact point.

608
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Speaker 3: See, I've even taken it a step further, being as

609
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Speaker 3: though I've been in that position. I've played with Kenoa

610
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Speaker 3: Kennedy and John Lynch, and I've watched those guys sustain

611
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: massive fines based on doing what they were basically trained

612
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Speaker 3: to do. It's like the idea is when you train

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Speaker 3: an attack dog to attack and a tack dog attack,

614
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: you can't put that dog down because you train him

615
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Speaker 3: to do this. So for me taking it a step further,

616
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Speaker 3: and I said with Shelby said years.

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Speaker 5: Ago, but I added this part to it. If you're

618
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Speaker 5: going to find.

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Speaker 3: A defensive player for actually making a play, putting his

620
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Speaker 3: foot in the ground, precisely reading a play, the quarterback

621
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Speaker 3: leads him and he makes contact, and lets just say

622
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: right now, you can't attack with your head like it

623
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Speaker 3: was back when I play.

624
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: Now you use your shoulder.

625
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: Well, what happens once your shoulder makes contact with the

626
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Speaker 3: guy's chest.

627
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: Guess what's gonna happen? His head is.

628
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Going to move back on in the whiplast motion, and

629
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Speaker 3: if it touches your helmet, guess what, it's a helmet helmet.

630
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Speaker 3: That's why when I look at college football, I think

631
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Speaker 3: it is one of.

632
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Speaker 5: The most egregious things.

633
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Speaker 3: When you throw guys out right and you say, okay,

634
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: well there was helmet the helmet contact. Do you know

635
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: the damn body anatomy and when objects are in motion

636
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Speaker 3: what happens. So for me, it's like if a quarterback

637
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Speaker 3: is gonna do that, and you're gonna kick a guy

638
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: in the game and you're gonna find him, know what

639
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: you should do? Find that damn quarterback too as well.

640
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it's stop throwing it, but quarterbacks throw it because

641
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: they know you can't play the game now like you

642
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: play fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I actually agree with you.

644
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Speaker 1: And I also think sometimes with the targeting rules in college,

645
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Speaker 1: you're kicking these kids out of games. There's sometimes you

646
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: can see intent, like sometimes there's like a very lear

647
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Speaker 1: intense but there are other times where it's just like

648
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Speaker 1: it's a bang bang play.

649
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: It clearly didn't look like he was trying to make

650
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Speaker 2: it a warning.

651
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, it feels like there needs to be

652
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: you're a measurable, a measured way to approach it instead

653
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: of the well, no, that that's just the definition of targeting.

654
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: So you're kicked out. It's like I wasn't trying to

655
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Speaker 1: hurt anybody. Now now they are, they are and we

656
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: can usually see that.

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Speaker 3: Now if you have a resume like Bontes perfect, that's different.

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Speaker 1: You got priors, yeah, right, Faim Jackson priors.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: So you have to look at and I try to

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Speaker 3: tell individuals when I break down film. You can find

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Speaker 3: that at Nick ferguson Underscore twenty five that you have

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Speaker 3: to always look at intent.

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Speaker 5: What was the player's intent? Was he trying to let up?

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Speaker 3: Because remember a couple of years ago when Justin Simmons

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Speaker 3: was here, Jimmy Garoppolo took off running and it was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, kick.

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Speaker 5: Him out of the game. He hit him in the head.

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Speaker 5: He was like, no, quarterbacks, you know, the rules are simple.

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Speaker 3: You slide first, you protect the fee first, you go

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Speaker 3: with your head. Then everything's up for grabs. Right now

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Speaker 3: you have the mercy of what I do defensively. So

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Speaker 3: it's important for all players to protect one another. But

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Speaker 3: if we are wearing opposite uniforms and your quarterback leeds you.

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Speaker 3: That's not my problem. You need to go talk to

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Speaker 3: him and have to I put this helmet on you.

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Speaker 1: And it was a vicious hit. It was a vicious hit,

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Speaker 1: but legal. I mean, that's that's what it is. And

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Speaker 1: Shelby's right, it was it was they picked up the flag,

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Speaker 1: they threw it, and then they picked up the flag

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Speaker 1: because they recognized that it was an illegal hit. So

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Speaker 1: as we sit here and I rewatched it on slow mo,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, gosh, that is brutal. That's our

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Speaker 1: guy that's laying there on the and nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: see that, even the defensive player. You saw how shaking

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Speaker 1: up he was by the idea of hurting another player.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. That's not what the game is played for.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is to the big picture what Shelby saying,

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. And I feel like fans typically speaking

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Speaker 1: and even the text line is agreeing with this. I

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Speaker 1: think fans have have come to the other side of that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a decade ago there was a lot more of

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Speaker 1: the well, no, you, you as a defender need to

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Speaker 1: make an adjustment to your game.

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Speaker 2: Under the circumstances.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying, I'm saying we've come a long way,

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Speaker 1: yes as a football viewing audience, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: we were all smarter than that. I didn't see anybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe Shelby's interactions would say different. I didn't see anybody

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Speaker 1: in that moment on Twitter saying that anything other than

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Speaker 1: Boenix needed to not lead Pat Bryant into that hit.

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Speaker 1: They were upset that it was a vicious hit and

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Speaker 1: that Pat Bryant was hurt. But I didn't see anybody

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Speaker 1: blaming the defender in the moment, at least not for

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Speaker 1: my vantage. It might have existed in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a thousand things, but I didn't see that really quickly.

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Speaker 5: What it put in focus was how physical.

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Speaker 3: This game truly is, and you don't know until someone

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Speaker 3: ends up on the ground and the ambulance comes out

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Speaker 3: to get them.

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Speaker 2: Rod Smith joins us in the studio next