1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Man, Dan, can you compare a contrast the Landragan shooting 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: in this one. I remember a number of people saying 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: it was justified when this one isn't. And I'm not 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: sure where the differentiation lies. That's a good question. I 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: will tell you on the basis of what we think 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: we know now or what I've tried to pay attention to. 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: I believe the Laundragan case was more clear cut that 8 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: the officer should never have been charged with what he 9 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: ultimately was charged with. I think there's more I have 10 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: at this point again in the story, I have more 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: concern in this case, even if even with what we 12 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: talked about regarding the possibility of the threat that you know, 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the officer may have reasonably felt. I feel because in 14 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: the Laundrigan case, we had a situation where we had 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: one officer half in the car, as I recall so 16 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: and and so, more of a potential dragging situation. To me, 17 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: that's uh that felt from early as we learned stuff 18 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: about that case, a lot more certain than I feel 19 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: about the officer's behavior in this case. Do you think 20 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: this just ended a chance for Minnesota Republican to win 21 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: the governor's race? Similar what happened with Biden after Trump's 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: assassin the assassination attempt on Trump. I'm on record, and 23 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: the rightys you know, don't like when I say this, 24 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: but I think the chance for a Minnesota Republican to 25 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: win the governor's race ended or will end regardless, for 26 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: regardless of this tragedy, if Amy Klobshar becomes the Democratic 27 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: nominee for governor, simple as that. Now if she doesn't, 28 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: if ultimately she shocks people and doesn't, then is it 29 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: If you're yes, I know she's also a Democrat, but 30 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't think she you will successfully paint her with 31 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: the same brush that Governor Walls will be regarding the 32 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: land of ten thousand fraud cases and a couple of 33 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: other things as well. Now, I will be curious to 34 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: watch how willing she will be to criticize the Democrats 35 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: in charge. And most people think it's not going to 36 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: be enough because it's a tribal system, right, that's what 37 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: sharks and jets, but and the Democrats would probably think 38 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it'd be too much. Absolutely, that's exactly right. So, but 39 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I think that will go a lot further. Now, I 40 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: may be understating the ramifications of this story as it 41 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: plays out, but I think for me that was a 42 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of a bigger, bigger issue. Brashawn Bryant KFN text 43 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: line is open at six four six, eight six. I 44 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: do want to mention one other Toy Department story because 45 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: I think we've had another National Football League head coaching dismissal. 46 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: My guy Dolphin's Guy Dolphin's Guy Ping Pong guy, what's 47 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: his name? Mike Daniel, Mike McDaniel has been dismissed. 48 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: And that. 49 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: Is that eight or nine? Now, how many openings do 50 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: we have? This is the eighth, This is eighth, Yeah, 51 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was the seventh. 52 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: I think. 53 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Is that the average number of openings we have? Maybe 54 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: it is it feels like it's more than usual, maybe 55 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: by one or two. 56 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: That's a lot. 57 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: How many teams in the National Football League is a 58 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: thirty thirty two thirty two thirty two, So that's a 59 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: quarter of them. As you say, maybe it happens every year, 60 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and I just haven't been paying attention. And maybe it's 61 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: because it's coming out. You know, we had the onslaught 62 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: and now they're coming out in drips and drafts. Right, 63 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: is anybody left that still might be under the microscope. Man, 64 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so well Tomlin. People wonder what's going 65 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: to happen there? Well, but I think them making the 66 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: postseason has to end, that, doesn't it. 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't think so, because he's done that a lot. Yeah. 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm not saying right, you're not saying 69 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: he should be Yeah, and you know me, I mean, 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I love Tomlin. I think he should be able to 71 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: coach as long as he wants, wherever he wants. But 72 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: if they get trucked by Houston at home on Monday 73 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: night and they don't win a playoff game again, people 74 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: are going to say. People are going to wonder, is 75 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: this the best that they is? This is a reboot 76 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: necessary in Pittsburgh's you know, one organization that doesn't really 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: care about the noise. Have had three head coaches, right, 78 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Noland h that's true, Cowell, Yeah, Bill Kawer and then Tomlin. 79 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: So they're pretty patient, but they are to coaching what 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the Packers are to quarterbacks. It seems like it's like 81 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: one a generation Y is enough for us pretty much, 82 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: I think about that. So I don't think anybody else 83 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: is even up for debate. But I'm not sure I'd 84 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: have to go through the list again. I guess, yeah, 85 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: it's now we're assuming that when it comes to Brian Flores, 86 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Miami is unlikely to be an option. That'd be a 87 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: good story, to be a hell of a story. It 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: sounds like the Ravens have already asked for permission. I 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to get to that. Yeah, 90 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: but I wonder, Like I said, I will be shocked 91 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: if the Ravens do not hire an offensive the great 92 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer. I'm not saying that's the only way they 93 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: should go, but I just have a feeling that that 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: is the direction they might go. But that's the first 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: sign and I is that the only team we know 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: that has asked permission to chat with Brian Flores to 97 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: our knowledge, Yet that's the only one I saw today. 98 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if any others have been reported. Yeah, 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: but I did see that today with my own eyes. 100 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: And we still don't have well, obviously it's it's it's 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: self evident. 102 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: We still so. 103 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: The fact that we still don't have the Vikings announcing 104 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: a contract extension as defensive coordinator and assistant head coach 105 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: for Bflow means what that B Flows people are saying, well, 106 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: now we got to slow it down a little bit. 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: We saw a role because we're going to play it out. 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: We got to explore the head coaching deal. Or is 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: it because I'm not again saying there's a schism, but 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: that there's more likelihood than we think that he's just 111 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: not going to hang here, which would really surprise me. 112 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's he's tired of us. I mean, he 113 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: says he loves it here. He says his family loves 114 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: it here. 115 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: They do. 116 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: He's well compensated, I'm sure, and that's only going up 117 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: gets to do his own thing on defense, good vibe 118 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: with the head coach. I would be really surprised if 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: he left for anything other than a head coaching job. 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Has Gerschmidth commented on this. 121 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: The rumor percolating on Harbaugh is that the Bills and 122 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: the Packers are the teams to watch. Is Packer guy 123 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: in trouble? I believe his contract is up at the end. 124 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: Of the season. Oh okay, maybe that's what it is. 125 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: I think. 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Don't quote me for sure, but I'm pretty sure, which 127 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: is interesting. More year, Blakemore says. Blakemore says he's got 128 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: Walmar one more. 129 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: That's it though that's not much. What's that? That's well? 130 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Gurby's going to join tomorrow. Why Blake Moore's had just 131 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: popped up? Man, he heard Packer ty you want John Harbaugh? 132 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: You okay with your current head coach? He says he's 133 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: okay with the current head game. He coach may feel 134 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: differently after Saturday night, by the way, snow Globe game. 135 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Really the rumor is a snow a soldier field Bears 136 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Packers the way it ought to be. 137 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: But I don't mean guess whether people you never know 138 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: what to believe. 139 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: We'll find out. Yeah, sooner or later we'll who jumped 140 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: up quicker in the score? Blake Moore when we were 141 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: talking about Matt Leffleur's contract situation, or Zach Halverson when 142 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: we wondered aloud if Sex World was still open downtown 143 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: now he's ever moved since the high school Hockey report, 144 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: and he had to sprint across the Al Shaver press box. 145 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: He wanted to confirm. He wanted to let you know 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: it was still open. He is nothing if not an 147 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: intrepid reporter. 148 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's open anymore. But at the time 149 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Holvey confirmed to you that it was open. He popped 150 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: up and gave me which place was it? Sex World? 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Sex World, not not the Voo. No, there's no question 152 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: the vo's still open. In fact, Gregor sent me a 153 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: picture from the Voo on one of his Minneapolis watts. 154 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: He did that to me too, because we were talking 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, fucked by at nine inh at the time? 156 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: What opens at nine, isn't it? Or is it twenty 157 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: four hours that? I don't know. We could ask Max 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: he used to work there. I don't know if he 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: still does. That's a good point. Yeah, the VU do 160 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: they have a brunch? I don't know, Brett, he says 161 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: it is not sure. Not sure. Okay, he's pretending to 162 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: not for sure. Split that way. 163 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: All right, let's get a pause in and let's go 164 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: international with the guy. He's from Minnesota, so he may 165 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: have an opinion or two, or just maybe you want 166 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: to express some emotion on the basis of what took 167 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: place yesterday in the city. We will chat with one 168 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: of our favorites, long time counter terror big knocker this 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: show geopolitical big Knocker for this program. Michael Hurley is next. 170 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: If you have questions six four six eight six. 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: That's next. 172 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: Let's go international for a minute or two questions for 173 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Michael Hurley, former career CIA officer, 174 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: served well for many many years now works with I 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: think fair to say, doing a lot of very effective consulting, 176 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: and he's been great for us. We've consulted with him 177 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: on any number of international crises with American implications or 178 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: what those implications. 179 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Might be for the US. 180 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: And mister Hurley, Michael Hurley, he Dinah's own is kind 181 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: enough to join us via the Kinetico Water Systems hotline. 182 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: How are you, sir? 183 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying are you having like a little bit 184 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: of rest and relaxation right now? 185 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: I am dan great to be with you, and I'm 186 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: actually in Big Sky, Montana. 187 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: Nice. 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: I've been here for the last week or so and 189 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: just kind of enjoying the beauty of this part of 190 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: the country. Peaceful, very peaceful, especially where I am and 191 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: you see a lot of cross country skiers go by. 192 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: We had some good snow in the main ski resort 193 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: which is nearby last night, seven or eight inches. But wow, 194 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: Actually think Montana, especially this part of the Rockies, is 195 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: doing better with snow than Colorado this season so far. 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, is it one would assume that a spot like 197 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: that sounds like a spot from which you can in 198 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: certain ways isolate yourself from the rest of the world. 199 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: And yet, given what we have going on in the world, 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: not to mention Minneapolis, and given your own connections with 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: so many of these stories, is it hard for you 202 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: to ever shut off or get away from it, especially 203 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: with what we have going on internationally. 204 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Well, I guess I stay plugged in from here on 205 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: my computer and talking to friends and sort of my network. 206 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 3: But it is very, very peaceful here, and I don't 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: myself so much, but I try to stay up on 208 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: the news while I'm out here as well too. But 209 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: it's it's just really, really a lovely place to be. 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: Sounds like I mean, it reminds me of Minnesota a lot, 211 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: except for the mountains, of course, which is the big 212 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: different spot. This is a great place Dan even of 213 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: course for the skiing it's world class at Big Sky Resort. 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: But in the spring and in the summer and in 215 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: the fall there's some of the best fly fishing in 216 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: the country. There's kayaking, horseback riding, tennis, golf, everything you 217 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: can imagine. So it's it's really really a lovely part 218 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: of the country to spend some time in. 219 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Here's where I like to begin today, regarding Venezuela and 220 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: the capture of the Venezuelan President Maduro. 221 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: I want to read a couple of sentences. 222 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: This is a piece out of the Hill dot com 223 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: and it's centered on some commentary from Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman. 224 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: Reads like this. 225 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: John Fetterman faulted fellow Democrats early Monday for their relentless 226 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: criticism of the president's mission to capture Maduro, calling the operation. 227 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: A good thing. 228 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: This was, I think, in an interview on Fox and Friends, 229 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: and he noted that Democrats have wanted to oust Maduro 230 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: from power as much as Republicans did, but now that 231 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan strong man he is in US custody, that 232 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Democrats are surprisingly lashing out at the administration. Here's his quote. 233 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why we can't just acknowledge it's been 234 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: a good thing. What's happened. I've seen the speeches from 235 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: whether it's Schumer or kinds of past tweets from the 236 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: President Biden. We all wanted this man gone. Now he 237 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: is gone. I think we should really appreciate exactly what 238 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: happened here. So what would you say to the Federman 239 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: analysis there? What do you make of what he has 240 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: to say? Because it is true. I think there's several 241 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: administrations were very critical of Maduro in power. So are 242 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: people who are mad at this? 243 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: Are they mad because Trump did it? 244 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 1: Or are they mad because they think the act itself 245 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: raises larger questions that go beyond what we have done before. 246 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: I think it's some of both. First, where in the 247 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: sad situation now where the parties, the two parties are 248 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: constantly ripping into each other no matter what actions are taken. 249 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: It is true what Senator Fetterman says that both parties, 250 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: leaders in both parties have for years, I wanted to 251 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: see Maduro gone and Huro Java is even before him. 252 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: And the situation in Venezuela is very bad. I think 253 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: something like eight million people eight million Venezuelan's have emigrated 254 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: from that country to Europe, to other countries in South America. 255 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: Colombia has taken in a lot, We've probably taken in 256 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands in the last many years, and so 257 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: it really I think was a terrible regime that was 258 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: robbing its own citizens, robbing its own its own national wealth. 259 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: It wasn't all that long ago, dan Is. You know 260 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: that Venezuela was one of the economic spark plugs in 261 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: South America. It has these tremendous oil resources, and now 262 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: it's really an impoverished country. I don't think there's been 263 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: any hope for young people there for a long time, 264 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: which is why they've all mamigrated. But I think, to 265 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: get back to Fetterman's point, I think it's good to 266 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: happen Aduro gone. I think it's also legitimate to say, Okay, 267 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: what happens tomorrow, what are the longer term, mid and 268 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: longer term consequences that the United States is going to 269 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: be dealing with. I was reminded a little bit the 270 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: reaction remember during the Iraq War, when what was it 271 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: about a month into it, it was declared that mission 272 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: was accomplished there. Well, mission wasn't accomplished. It lasted for 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: another eight nine years and is still kind of ongoing now. 274 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: And well, I think it's great for Maduro to be 275 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: to be gone, and it appears that our special forces 276 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: performed very well that I still think there are grounds 277 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: one of the things that did not take place, from 278 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: my understanding, and it's it's really been followed by both parties, 279 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: is that before any action like this that the Trump 280 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: administration took, there's only the briefing for what's called the 281 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: Gang of eight. That's kind of inside baseball in Washington. 282 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: But the Gang of eight are the two leaders of 283 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House and the minority leader in 284 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives, and the chairman and ranking member 285 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: of the House Intelligence Committee. And similarly the Senate Majority 286 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: Leader and the Senate Minority Leader and the chairman and 287 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: and ranking member on the Senate Intelegencibitties. They always get briefed, 288 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: and none of that took place. And I think that 289 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: that's that's that's a real break with tradition, and I 290 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: think there's so there is some grounds for grousing there. 291 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: And I also think that you know, like people can 292 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: look at this and say, we're international laws violated here, 293 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: and you know, if it's a matter of urgent, urgent 294 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: national security, countries will always act in their self interest. 295 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: But there's so many issues surrounding this as well. Dan two, 296 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: the attacks and the missile strikes on the boats, and 297 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: the Caribbean and all the issues that those have raved. 298 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: I think it's all kind of wrapped up in that. 299 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: But so I think there's something to what Fetterman is saying, 300 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: but I don't I don't see it personally as an 301 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: unqualified success, because we really don't know what's going to 302 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: happen in the weeks and months ahead. 303 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: You know. 304 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: The larger issue to me that this represents, and you 305 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to it a little bit already, is 306 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: that you do get the feeling that each time the 307 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: approach from this administration on a story like this is 308 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: to say, we're screwing convention. 309 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: We don't care what tradition has suggested. 310 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: Or even what might be a fair representation of, you know, 311 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: showing proper respect to the legislative side of this thing 312 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: in the various branches of government, that it becomes easier 313 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: to say screw it the next time. And if you 314 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: do it often enough, and you basically thumb your nose 315 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: at convention over and over again, then I think it 316 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: becomes very easy to say, well, who's going to stop us? 317 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do about it? Right? 318 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: And I do have concern about the ramifications of that 319 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: and I I would say that even Trump supporters should 320 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: wonder about that a little bit. And there's even been 321 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: some Republicans, not a lot, but there have been some 322 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Republicans who occasionally murmur uh in areas like that. 323 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: Can you speak to that a little bit? 324 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's I think there's there. There's there's 325 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: much to that, the just the whole question of you 326 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: know what, what what do we what do we do 327 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: going forward? And I also think that the more you 328 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: break it's not just tradition, it's it's kind of the 329 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: unwritten you know, it's kind of the unwritten like customary 330 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: way that these things have been approached. As I said, 331 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: I think often Dan presidents need to act quickly and 332 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: make decisions quickly when there's vital national interests at stake. 333 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: It may be the case here. I just I just 334 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: don't know. And I think that country is a very 335 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: large country, and I think governing it now, we haven't 336 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: getting rid of one guy and his wife the leader. 337 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: There's still a lot of bad people, a lot of 338 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: thugs that still exert a lot of power Invituila, and 339 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: I just don't know what's going to happen ahead, which 340 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: I think raises a lot of issues. And I sort 341 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: of also think that when there's no consulting done, the 342 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: entire Congress doesn't need to be briefed, but just that 343 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: group of eight. There's reasons to do that because no 344 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: one person, Republican or Democrat, has monopoly on wisdom, and 345 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: it's always useful to get advice, and even to get 346 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: advice from the opposition, I think, And so I just 347 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: don't think that was done here. I want to share 348 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: an anecdote Dan that I was thinking of. I'm to 349 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: go back to the Vietnam conflict. There's this really excellent 350 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: book called The Best and the Brightest by David Halberston. 351 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm familiar with yep very much. He was and when 352 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: John Kennedy began his presidency in nineteen sixty one, he 353 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: was presented with his action in Cuba. Well, the US 354 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: was going to invade using a ragtag group of people, 355 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty people or so, with really 356 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: no air power, to overthrow the Castro regime. And Kennedy 357 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: was the new president. He was presented with this plan, 358 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: and Halberston writes about this in the book. He was 359 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: a new president and young president, and he listened to 360 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: these advisors and the CIA, which had concocted this plan. 361 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: They were using these Cuban exiles to do this, And 362 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: in the decision making, there were a couple of people 363 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: that were not president in the cabinet meeting. It should 364 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: have been there, and one was Victor Koulock was his name. 365 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: He was a four star Marine general. He wasn't there, 366 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: but they should have had him there because he he 367 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: had been part of the assault team in ewo Jima 368 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: during World War Two and he knew the costs and 369 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: the number of people that were required to successfully take 370 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: an island. But he wasn't there, so he wasn't able 371 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: to weigh in on whether the US should go ahead 372 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: with that action. The other thing I remember, and it 373 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: just tized directly to Minnesota, is that the secret of 374 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: Agriculture at the time was Orville Freeman, kind of a 375 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: famous Minnesotan. And you'd asked yourself the question, well, why 376 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: would you want the sectard of agriculture on a national 377 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: security decision? Well, only because Freeman had also stormed a 378 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: Japanese island in World War two and knew something about that. 379 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: But when Kulak in the Key cabinet meeting on this 380 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: question of invading a country and removing its leadership. He 381 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: rolled out on a on a map of the United 382 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: States be overlayd with the map of Cuba, and Cuba 383 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: stretched from Long Island to Wait past Chicago, right, And 384 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: the people making the decisions had no idea of the 385 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: size of that of that of that island. And I'm 386 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: remembering this now just because you know, you can get 387 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: into these things and take these actions, and they seem 388 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: pretty good at first, but they can lead to a 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: lot of problems down the road. I hope they don't. 390 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: I hope this turns out to be successful, but time 391 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: will tell them. 392 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I want to jump around a little bit because I 393 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: don't want to lose the opportunity here. Although we can 394 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: revisit some of these stories if they don't go away. 395 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: The average roube who has become somewhat aware, but maybe 396 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: isn't you know, following politics geopolitics every day, Suddenly here's 397 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: again the name Greenland. And it's about more than the 398 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: sequel to a motion pick. Sure, it's about these notions 399 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: that it's too valuable geopolitically for us to not get 400 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: more involved in it, or to take it over, or 401 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to do whatever the President has threatened that he might 402 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: need to do or say that he needs to do. 403 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: To that person who has been following this story closely explain, 404 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: give our listeners an idea of what Greenland represents and 405 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: what you think the president might ultimately be up to. 406 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: Here well, in some ways is a strategic location because 407 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: it's up in the Arctic Circle. There's often Russian activity, 408 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: there's subactivity around it, submarine activity. It's a gateway, i guess, 409 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: to North America. The Chinese are interested in it now. 410 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: It's at the top of the world and for that reason, 411 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: it's a place that has drawn attention. And also my 412 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: understanding is there's these rare earth metals and minerals that 413 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: are valuable, and they are valuable to the security of 414 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: the United States and the West, but for the average 415 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: person may not know. But Greenland is actually part it's 416 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: connected to Denmark, and Denmark has this political relationship with Greenland. 417 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 3: And it's important to understand that Denmark is in the 418 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: North Atlantic Tree Organization NATO, which is in my mind, 419 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: the most successful defensive organization alliance in the history of 420 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: the world. The United States is the main player in it, 421 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: and Denmark is an ally of ours. I personally would 422 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 3: like to see in this so I can understand some 423 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: of the importance of Greenland to the United States, although 424 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: I think and I wish the administration wouldn't overstate some 425 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: of the points that it's made because it's it's President 426 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 3: Trump has said that the Russians are all over the 427 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: place in Greenland, and the Chinese are as well. That's 428 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: not true. They have an interest in it, and there 429 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: are assets, surface vessels and so on, but they're not 430 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: They're not ready to invade Greenland. That's just not the case. 431 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: So I and I would like to see personally just 432 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: working with Denmark and with Greenland if we want to 433 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: be beef up our defense right there and our air 434 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: defenses and radars and so on, to prevent or to 435 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: give us heads up on possibly missile attacks and they're coming, 436 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: the blistic missile attacks coming from over the polar Ice cap. 437 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: I think that can be done by strengthening that alliance 438 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: and working very closely. I'm just not a big fan 439 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: of bullying our allies. 440 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: We are chatting with the four CIA officer Michael Hurley 441 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: has joined us for years to talk largely about international 442 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: geopolitics and counter terror, et cetera, et cetera. If you 443 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: have questions for him, Restaurant Bryant a cafe and text 444 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: line is open at six four six eight six. By 445 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the way, to go back to Maduro and the question 446 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: of who should have been in on it on the 447 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: front end, in terms of in the government on the 448 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: legislative side, the comeback has been, as I'm sure you've heard, 449 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: is well, this was not a military action, This was 450 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: a This was basically a law enforcement operation involving one 451 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: particular individual who several administrations has said should not even 452 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: be in a position of power and is a threat 453 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: as well. What do you say to that that comeback? 454 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: Well, first, Maduro gives a threat, and he's a terrible 455 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: leader and a ruthless leader, and I'm glad he's not 456 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: in power. By we use our military, and we use 457 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: our elite forces in the military. So it's a military action, 458 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: and I just think we're stronger when we have when 459 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: we have our the various players taking part in that 460 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: decision making. It's not even the decision making, because it 461 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: is present from's decision, but it's just weighing in with advice, 462 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: and sometimes it's important to hear the advice of the 463 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: people in the senior positions. So no, in my view, 464 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: with a military action, we use the military. They can 465 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: call it law enforcement, but but no, we used our 466 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: key military assets. 467 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: I have heard some folks call out the I don't 468 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: even know what we call it, mainstream media, traditional media, 469 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: if there's such a thing as traditional media in twenty 470 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: twenty six. 471 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: The accusation in this case. 472 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Michael, is that they are not giving proper attention in 473 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: their reporting and in their I guess presentation of what 474 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: is happening or what seems to be percolating on the 475 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: ground in Iran. I'm curious to get your view on that. 476 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: There have been a number of demonstrations for a number 477 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: of days. There's a belief in the part of some 478 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: that this might lead to some real up arising. On 479 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: the other hand, there have been a few of these 480 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: I think ripples before not leading anywhere. So do you 481 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: think this has been a story, is enough happening based 482 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: on what you've seen and what you know the people 483 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you talk to, that this story is being underplayed or 484 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: what do you think? 485 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: I think it may be. 486 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: I think it may be somewhat underplayed. Dan. It's also 487 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: probably probably very difficult for even the strongest of newspapers, 488 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: for example, and journalists that kind of coverage to really 489 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: penetrate to find out what's going on in that closed society. 490 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: So that's kind of that's kind of difficult. I do 491 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: think it's it's extremely important to follow the drama there 492 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: and what's taking place, because you know, they're still reeling 493 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: from the attacks of Israel and of the United States 494 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: last spring. I think the Mollahs that are running the 495 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: country in the Ayahtola probably are shifting where they're sleeping 496 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: every night, so their locations can't be pinpointed by Israeli 497 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: missiles or some of the other techniques that the Israeli's used. 498 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: There are protests taking place there. I would like to 499 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: know more about them. It would be great if there 500 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: were better and deeper coverage. There's so much happening in 501 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: the world now in terms of international security that maybe 502 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: these outlets are just making choices and covering Ukraine and 503 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: now Venezuela and some of these other hotspots. But one 504 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: of the things that that I got very interested in 505 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: the last year was that they have and they have 506 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: had in Tehran a very serious water water crisis and 507 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: water shortage, and that if it continues, is going to 508 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: lead to a lot of social turmoil. For sure, you 509 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: start running out of water and and you know it's 510 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: it's people are going to protest that very seriously. So yeah, 511 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: I think I think it's probably legitimate to say that 512 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: there should be more and better coverage of what's happening 513 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: in the Ronde. I'd certainly like to see that. 514 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of good texts coming in. I'm 515 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna try to see if we can cover these in 516 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: our remaining minutes with with Michael Hurley. Has Trump made 517 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: a deal with China to keep China from invading Taiwan. 518 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't. 519 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: I doubt that he. I doubt that he has. Trump 520 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: seems to be mostly interested in cutting economic and trade 521 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: deals with China. I doubt that the Taiwan issue is 522 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: an issue of vital importance to Shijinping, the rule of China, 523 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: and the Chinese government. I doubt that they've reached agreement 524 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: on it. If anything, I think the US actions in 525 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: Venezuela may be read by the Chinese leadership as the 526 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: United States is doing what it wants to do, and 527 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: it's part of the world. It's sphere of interest that 528 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: gives us the green light to do whatever we want. 529 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: With Taiwan, they may just be biting their time until 530 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: they're ready to make a move on Taiwan. 531 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: But my guess is. 532 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but I think it's pretty 533 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: safe to say that President Trump hasn't reached any agreement 534 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: on the Chinese thing out of Taiwan. 535 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: Mike Michael, you're also being asked to link if you 536 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: think there is a link between what we've done in 537 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Venezuela and potentially where we might be headed as it 538 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: pertains to the island of Cuba. 539 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Are we going anywhere there? 540 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen with that. The 541 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: President has threatened the Cuban government, also the Mexican government 542 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: and the Colombian government, and we've already talked about Greenland 543 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: and Denmark. You know, sometimes it's hard to read how 544 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: serious he is. But the Cuban government is going to 545 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: be in real trouble Dan because it's been propped up 546 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: in part by oil coming in from Venezuela. That's going 547 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: to be cut way way back, and that's going to 548 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: cause a real problem with with with funds coming into 549 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: the Cuban government. So my guess is, and I know 550 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: this is something that's very important to the Secretary of 551 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: State Marco Rubio UH and others who have who have 552 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 3: wanted a change in government in Cuba, and so many 553 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: have I think across Republican and democratic administrations, I think 554 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: the Cuban government is in real trouble now. 555 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: UH. 556 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there are any actions planned 557 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: at all. I have no insights into that, but I'm 558 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: sure the US is going to be more than a 559 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: an impartial observer as to what's happening, and we'll be 560 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: putting on the Trump administration, I would be willing to 561 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 3: bet will be putting on as much pressure on the 562 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: economic pressure and otherwise on the Cuban government UH to 563 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: see a collapse there, if if, if, if that's possible. 564 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: I think the oil of oil is part of that. 565 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Texture's point and let's let's go a little further with it. 566 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: This is three oh three, Guy, Dan, you're missing the 567 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: point on Venezuela Maduro. 568 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: Madua was a horrible person. 569 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's gone, But the US invaded a foreign 570 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: country to occupy it and steal its resources. The President 571 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: has admitted that we're there for the oil. How is 572 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: stealing in other countries resources okay. 573 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's okay. And uh and and 574 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: I guess it. We we should we shouldn't steal resources. 575 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: We haven't done that in the past, and we shouldn't 576 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: do it in Venezuela. I'm not sure that that's exactly 577 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: what President Trump is talking about. He's talking about the 578 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: US participating in managing those resources. And because that whole 579 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: industry has collapsed in Venezuela, and he's talked about then 580 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: the income from that oil being used to you know, 581 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: by by by leaders in Venezuela that will put it 582 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: to good effect to help the people of Venezuela. And 583 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: so I don't you know, sometimes it's very hard to 584 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: read President Trump's mind. I don't think he sees it 585 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: as stealing from them. And I think if that were 586 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: to happen, that even this Congress has been very supportive 587 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: of Presidents Trump, wouldn't want the United States to go 588 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: down that road. So, you know, maybe it would be 589 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: more like just managing those resources and using the wealth 590 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: that comes from it. To assist the people of Venezuela, 591 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: I hope. So anyway, let's. 592 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: Finish today with a local story. You know, you're a 593 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: Minneapolis guy and you feel strongly about your roots, and 594 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: your hometown is back in the news for all of 595 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: the wrong reasons, based on what took place last night 596 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: or yesterday, i should say, during an ice operation in 597 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: which a Minneapolis resident named Renee Nicole Good was killed 598 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old from afar. What was your gut 599 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: reaction to the story that broke out yesterday, Well, my. 600 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 3: Heart breaks over it. It's a it's a terrible tragedy. 601 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: I you know, it's it's always hard to give opinions 602 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: on things until you know all the facts. Based on 603 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: what I've read and and I've tried to dive into 604 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: this a little bit a bit because it was such 605 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 3: a terrible event. It doesn't seem to me that that 606 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: her actions merited, you know, the kind of use of 607 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 3: lethal force against her that that ended up killing her. 608 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: You know, we have the right to protest. You don't 609 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: have the right to interfere bodily with federal officers, but 610 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: you certainly can protest. From what I've seen of the 611 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: of the video, at least that I saw, it didn't 612 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: look like much of a threat was being to the 613 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: federal officers. 614 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: And so. 615 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: I think we're also in a situation, Dan where so 616 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: many people have been brought into ice that you wonder 617 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: how good their training is and whether people are coming. 618 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: In that. 619 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: Don't have the kind of training they need for the 620 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: actions that they're being asked to carry out. And I 621 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: suspect that as we delve into more of the facts 622 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: of exactly what happened, that may be the case with 623 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 3: the person the shooter in this case. And to me, 624 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 3: that's a real shame, and you know, just hope that 625 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: this doesn't happen again. This is a thirty seven year 626 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: old woman and whatever she was doing, she didn't deserve 627 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: to be to be killed, that's for sure. And I 628 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: hope that Congress gets involved and ensures that there's a 629 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: deep dive into the investigation and that nothing is covered 630 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: up about what happened, and then the changes are imposed 631 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 3: to ensure that it doesn't happen again. But it's just 632 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: sort of seems like some of these operations are overly 633 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 3: aggressive to me, and you know, that's that's that's just 634 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: my opinion. I know there are those that you know, 635 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: argue strongly and I and I think we need to 636 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 3: have and I realized that the victim here was not 637 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: an immigrant, But it's all tied up in the question 638 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: of enforcing the immigration rules. And you know, we need 639 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: a system where we can control our borders and to 640 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: deal I think fairly and appropriately with those that have 641 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: come here illegally. But but boy, it breaks my heart 642 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: when this kind of force is used and the life 643 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: is snuffed out at that, and I do hope that 644 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: there's accountability for it. 645 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time. It's always good to catch up 646 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: with you. 647 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: Enjoy whatever remaining time we have out out west, I 648 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: should say, and we'll chat again soon. 649 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Mike Dan. 650 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: And we didn't. We didn't even talk about the Viking. 651 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: Well, you tell me, are you are you locked into 652 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 1: JJ or you do you want to see a buffer 653 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: or do you want to see some kind of a 654 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, insurance policy that includes an experienced veteran in 655 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: case he's either not good enough or in case he 656 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: just can't stay on the field. 657 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not locked into him. He does seem to 658 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: be injury prone. I also recognize that he's very very young, 659 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 3: you know, to to carry the starting quarterback burden on 660 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 3: his shoulders. I'd like to see them bring in an 661 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: experienced pro uh donald type, but someone who's been performing 662 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: the play in the playoffs as well as he does 663 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: in the in the in the season. And I haven't, 664 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't decided, Dan, it's not I mean, 665 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that McCarthy can't be a you know, 666 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: a really good quarterback down the road, But I just 667 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: I worry about the next couple of years. Yeah, you know, 668 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: put him into some games when we're ahead, but have 669 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: somebody else at the helm. Bring in somebody that can 670 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: get the job done, because you know, there's I just 671 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 3: remember during during a summer training camp, there were really 672 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 3: high hopes for this team this year, and it was 673 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 3: kind of sad watching a lot of the games. 674 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. As a long way from 675 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: fourteen to three. 676 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for the extended time, my friend, will let chat 677 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: soon be well. 678 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Dan, appreciate you. 679 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: Michael Hurley kind enough to join us a break short 680 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: segment and then we will prepare Your guy, Brett Blakemore 681 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: is now in that share because guards he had to 682 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: move on to some beaches. Is off the hook on 683 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: Top five at five right, because Russo has scheduled for 684 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: the top three hour, we'll come back with a short 685 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: segment and then prepare for a little hockey talk. 686 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 687 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: We'll probably be able to explore this question in greater 688 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: depth on what now will be an endless array of 689 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: two hour editions of Sunday sermons. Right because Vikings ain't 690 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: playing Sunday, they ain't playing all weekend at all, so 691 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: it'll be nine to eleven on Sunday morning. It's that 692 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: I've asked it many times before whether Vikings fans will 693 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: continue to stay plugged in or connected to a postseason 694 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: in which their team is not a part, and I 695 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: have a hunch they will, even if they don't want to. 696 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: When one of the matchups is a battle between two 697 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: other NFC North teams, that's the Saturday night game, your 698 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in Chicago for the rematch to take 699 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: on the Monsters of the Midway. The early weather forecasts 700 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: are for a snow globe game at Soldier Field on 701 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: Saturday night. That in my mind means it probably won't 702 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: snow a lick, But I hope that it ends up 703 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: being true. It'd be a nice nighttime deal, right. I 704 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: mean you could say that's sort of the way it 705 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: should be in the National Football Conference North. And the 706 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 1: added impetus, even for Vikings fans who still might be 707 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: depressed at their club's not in it to pay attention, 708 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: has to be the possibility of chippiness because apparently your guy, 709 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: one of your guys, maybe several, have said they have 710 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: taken they took offence to the hit that knocked your 711 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: guy Jordan Love out of the game. Cushion. He missed 712 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: the rest of that game. Did he miss one or 713 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: two after that? 714 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 4: Well, he missed one because of protocol. He missed the 715 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 4: other here at Minneapolis because the invision play. That's exactly it. 716 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 4: But the quote was from Josh Jacob's quote. I know 717 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 4: a lot of guys took that hit on Love a 718 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: little personal. So I'm not saying we're gonna go out 719 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 4: there and play dirty or nothing like that. WHOA, but 720 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 4: we definitely want to defend our brother. 721 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 2: You know who doesn't mind that quote? National Football League? 722 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,959 Speaker 1: They love that because it's just enhances the storyline. It's 723 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: juice here, and you know what, I know every Green 724 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: Bay Packer says they want to play the Bears again. 725 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: You could I make the argument the Bears might say 726 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: the same thing, because I think I'd rather play the 727 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: Packers than at this point the Eagles or the Rams 728 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: if I'm the Bears, or even forty nine Ers. 729 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of the forty nine 730 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: Ers this point, but. 731 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: We don't. 732 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's not unprecedent to have playoff games involving 733 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: two teams in the same division, but when it happens, 734 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: I think it gets it. 735 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: It certainly enhances things to a large degree. 736 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: So that's something we will be able to review on 737 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: Sunday sermons because the game will be a Saturday night 738 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: and by then, also, I think my Hoosiers play Friday 739 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: night next round of the College Football Tournament against the 740 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks, So there might well be some Hoosier hotline 741 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: and some Bears wine line after the Bears knock off 742 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: your club again. What's the latest spread? Are you still favored? 743 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: A week ago you were favored. Is that changed at. 744 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: All as we get closer to game time. 745 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 4: I wanted to say that it moved. No, Green Bay 746 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: is still favored. I've got it as a point and 747 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 4: a half. Interesting. That's very interesting. 748 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think that says something to skepticism about the pedigree. 749 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: Still cute club, good season, breakthrough season for the Bears, 750 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: but no real postseason equity to draw from as well. 751 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: And the notion that the last time the Bears had 752 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: to do everything to end up winning a game that 753 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: in which your quarterback did not play. For when did 754 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: he get hurt in that game? I was like the 755 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: second it was the second quarterback. That sounds right, all right, 756 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: Let's break not for the top five at five, but 757 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: for our weekly visit with Michael Russo. Let's talk some 758 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: Olympics with Russo Radio as we get closer to it, 759 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: and obviously obviously talk plenty of a Minnesota Wild as well. 760 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: If you have questions for Russo, the Brat Shawn Brian 761 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: kfe In text line number is six four six eight 762 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: six