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Speaker 3: we've got the college football. We've got to get to

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Speaker 3: a little bit later on. We're gonna air Zach Taylor later.

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Speaker 3: I'm not starting the show as Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the best move because I know people

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Speaker 3: We have a contractual obligation to air the Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: Taylor right around five thirty five. The only word I

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Speaker 4: The guy could not lift his arm after last week's game,

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Speaker 4: Instead, he puts his body on the line. He sacrifices

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Speaker 4: the word demoralizing again. The demoralizing pieces is how the

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Speaker 4: Sure demoralizing factor with the Cincinnati Bengals, when or how

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, I'm not in defensive meetings. I've watched enough

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Speaker 4: of Ben Johnson since he was the coordinator at Detroit

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Speaker 4: to know that he is a guy that will run

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Speaker 4: trick plays. Therefore, the first meeting of the week, as

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Speaker 4: a defense you should be talking about, Hey, let's put

438
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Speaker 4: it on our radar this week we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 4: it more. But this is a team and a coach

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Speaker 4: that will run trick plays. And what happens the first

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Speaker 4: fourth down inside the ten yard line? They run the

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Speaker 4: Philly Special and it looks like no one from the

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Speaker 4: Bengals has ever watched, seen, or heard about the idea

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Speaker 4: of a trick play.

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Speaker 3: Or they ran the double pass twice with the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: The backup quarterback in the game, Tyson Badgett came into

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Speaker 4: the game and you would have thought, like, what's going

448
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Speaker 4: on here? They have two quarterbacks on the field. How

449
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Speaker 4: can you do that? Well, maybe it's to have one

450
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Speaker 4: quarterback throw to the other. And it looked like they'd

451
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Speaker 4: never seen anything like that or prepared for anything like that.

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Speaker 4: It's like defensive coordinators or offensive coordinators come in and

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Speaker 4: they talk.

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Speaker 3: To each other like, oh you did that. Watch what

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Speaker 3: I do this? Wak watch this.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a practice squad and a seventh round

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Speaker 4: draft pick. Watch what I do on the ground? Watch

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Speaker 4: what I scheme up. Caleb Williams, You ever see him

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Speaker 4: reverse out of the pocket before I'm gonna ask him

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Speaker 4: to do it twelve times. I'm gonna have him spin

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Speaker 4: out of the pocket twelve times, and in those twelve times,

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Speaker 4: no one will.

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Speaker 3: Make an adjustment. The Philly Special.

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Speaker 4: Oh and I'm gonna do it. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 4: have our best playmaker catch one pass, and I'm gonna

466
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Speaker 4: do with that my top running back watch this. I'm

467
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Speaker 4: gonna do it. What the Jets did, we got. We

468
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 4: gotta top that somehow. Cole Comet coming out of the game, Yeah, hey, Rome,

469
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Speaker 4: you're you're kind of out of this one.

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Speaker 3: Deandre's gonna sit. We've got a statement of our owner.

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Speaker 3: The Philly Special. I mean, it happened early in the game,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, like Ben Johnson is just going to

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Speaker 3: toy with Al Golden all day long. He's gonna run

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Speaker 3: an offensive play with ten guys on the field Like

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Speaker 3: that to me, Like, all right, Al, they didn't exactly

476
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Speaker 3: give you a lot to work with, but you got

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Speaker 3: to be able to achieve something. This is, as you outlined, statistically,

478
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Speaker 3: on pace to be the worst offense in the history

479
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Speaker 3: of the NFL. I'm sorry, worst defense in the history

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Speaker 3: of the National Football League. Yep, that is unconscionable. It's unconscionable.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to be like, hey, They're the worst

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Speaker 4: defense in the NFL this year, the history of the league.

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Speaker 3: It's insane. You know what. Defensively they're not great, They're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to outscore people. Worst in the history of

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Speaker 3: the sport.

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Speaker 4: But like we talked about last week and we talked

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Speaker 4: about Aurady today, it's one thing to be bad, but

488
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Speaker 4: if you look to the future, how is it any better?

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Speaker 3: Here's my question? And who do they have to rally around? Nobody?

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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to know. The last time the

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Speaker 3: Bengals changed defensive coordinators during a season, they blew out

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Speaker 3: Tarrell Austin. Marvin Lewis took over defensive play calling duties.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Zach Taylor's discipline was defense, would they

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Speaker 3: have made a change? Like, is there a reluctance to

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Speaker 3: make a change because we don't want to ask one

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Speaker 3: of these position coaches to do it? And I'm a

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Speaker 3: head coach and I've never coached defense. It might be

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Speaker 3: I get it, but it might It might be a

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Speaker 3: really stupid question, but I but I wonder if if

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Speaker 3: if Zach Taylor's offense was as bad as Al Golden's

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Speaker 3: defense is, would he have gotten rid of the offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator because he's an offensive coach. That Tony might be

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Speaker 3: a stupid question. I fair on that, h Jerry Montgomery.

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Speaker 4: This is the worst D line in football right his

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Speaker 4: track record, New England one of the worst defensive lines

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Speaker 4: in football last year. What is New England doing now?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Oh dude.

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Speaker 4: So if at very worst you say, okay, I was

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Speaker 4: gonna keep calling this, sorry, Jerry, Like someone has to

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Speaker 4: take the fall here. This D line is embarrassingly bad.

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Speaker 3: I We'll just keep it as this. We'll keep like.

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Speaker 4: The whole idea of status quo is so frustrating for me.

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Speaker 3: It's just what I said this to my wife yesterday

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Speaker 3: because she's like, they gotta like clean house, right, And

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Speaker 3: I said, here's the problem here on Sunday afternoon. The

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Speaker 3: idea of us waking up tomorrow and finding out they

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Speaker 3: made a change is shocking. It would be shocking today

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Speaker 3: if they fired Al Golden. Yep. It would be beyond

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Speaker 3: shocking if they let go of Duke Tobin. That's an

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Speaker 3: indictment against this franchise where the status quo is what

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Speaker 3: you expect no matter how bad things Yep, all right,

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Speaker 3: we got to step Aside twenty four from four o'clock

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Speaker 3: today says no staff changes as the Bengals will enter

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Speaker 3: the bye with the worst defense in the history of

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Speaker 3: the NFL, but he says he trusts al Golden Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 3: no game for the Bengals on Sunday The post to

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Speaker 3: total for buye this week is thirty eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'll probably lean the over. Tonight Monday Night Football, Arizona

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Speaker 3: is at Dallas. The Reds have traded Ryan Valaide to

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Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Rays in exchange for cash considerations. Ryan

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Speaker 3: valaid cash considerations. Man on he feeded. He played in

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Speaker 3: one game with the Reds on June twenty seventh. Ryan valaid.

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Speaker 3: Reds offseason off to a robust start as they attempt

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Speaker 3: to chase down the La Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you know why the Blue Jays lost.

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Speaker 4: Didn't pay enough money. No, no, they'd bunted. They bunted.

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Speaker 4: They bunted with no outs and a guy in second base,

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Speaker 4: a very good hitter at the play, who earlier in

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Speaker 4: the game hit a three run home run.

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Speaker 3: Never bunt. College basket All starts tonight and thank god

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Speaker 3: you see is hosting Western Carolina at seven on seven

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Speaker 3: hundred w WELW. The Richard Patino Era begins tonight for

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Speaker 3: Xavier as the Musketeer's host Marist. That game tips off

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Speaker 3: at seven point fifteen on fifty five krc NKU season

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Speaker 3: opener tonight, pitch the Norse against U c Claremont. You

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Speaker 3: can hear that game on the Project one hundred point

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Speaker 3: seven or what six point three? That game tips off

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Speaker 3: at seven. Ohio State takes on IU Indianapolis Miami battles

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Speaker 3: Old Dominion. The Dayton Flyers will host Canisius UH Saturday's

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati Columbus Game three will take place at six pm.

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Speaker 3: That was announced this morning by Major League Soccer. FC

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati will host the series finale after losing four ZIP

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Speaker 3: in Columbus last night. Did we get the answer to

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Speaker 3: the question you asked me during the break? I don't

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Speaker 3: believe they had any left, but what I was interested in,

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Speaker 3: so Cincinnati, you you were asking about timeouts?

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Speaker 4: Jordan Battle yesterday or today? He didn't talk to the

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Speaker 4: media yesterday, but today he said that Al Golden called

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Speaker 4: the right play on the touchdown to end the game,

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Speaker 4: but they were quote misaligned.

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Speaker 3: But then it's not the right play. So how.

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Speaker 4: How can you be misaligned on the biggest play of

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Speaker 4: the game and then say that the right play was called?

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Speaker 4: Is that like this team the defense just isn't smart

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Speaker 4: enough to line up properly. Like this isn't Week two right, right?

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Speaker 3: Like Jordan Battle's been in the league for a few years.

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Speaker 4: Nine games into the season and on the biggest play

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Speaker 4: of the game that you need to make a play on,

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Speaker 4: you are misaligned.

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Speaker 3: So here's my question. Geno's Stone is not good in coverage.

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Speaker 3: He's not good at tackling. If you want to make

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Speaker 3: the argument that Geno Stone should play, it lies with

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's in his sixth NFL season and

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Speaker 3: at the very least he can line up and make

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Speaker 3: sure everybody else is lined up in the right place.

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Speaker 3: He's been in good defenses. If Geno Stone can't do that,

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Speaker 3: why is he on the team? I mean, by everybody's admission,

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Speaker 3: he didn't come here because he has great coverage skills, right,

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Speaker 3: he had that one interception of Joe Burrow, which he's

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Speaker 3: gotten paid a lot of money for. He's not good

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Speaker 3: at tackling. So if there's one reason why you would

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Speaker 3: have Geno Stone in the game, it's to at least

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Speaker 3: make sure everyone's in the right spot, everyone's lined up.

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Speaker 3: So how's so? Then, then why is Geno Stone on

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Speaker 3: the team? Makes sense?

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what to take seriously from what

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Speaker 4: you hear of this team. It is like when we

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Speaker 4: I use the term comedy of airs. It really is,

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Speaker 4: because when when things get so bad that things as

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Speaker 4: devastating us yesterday no longer surprise you. That's a bad

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Speaker 4: sign for a team. Like if that if that game

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Speaker 4: yesterday happened in Kansas City Buffalo, the sports world would

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Speaker 4: be shocked, like, how did how did Buffalo let that

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: go right? How did Kansas City right? They would be shocked.

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 4: Because those teams play good football, They're fundamentally sound, they're

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Speaker 4: well coached, they have coaching advantages. So if at the

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Speaker 4: end of the game yesterday happened to one of those teams,

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Speaker 4: we would be blown away.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 4: Instead it happens to Cincinnati, and what's the comment, Well,

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Speaker 4: there they go again, just kind of who the Bengals are.

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Speaker 4: That's how you're known now.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for Charlie Jones. Yeah, because Charlie Jones

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Speaker 3: brings the opening kickback ninety eight yards and that should

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Speaker 3: be something we talk about today. It should be the

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Speaker 3: sort of play that you go back and look at,

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Speaker 3: there was a spark. Instead, Chicago scores the first time

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Speaker 3: they touched the football. I feel bad. I feel bad

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Speaker 3: for Andre Yoshavas. Yeah, answered the bell. Andre Yoshavas and

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Speaker 3: you know he's taken criticism and he has deserved the criticism.

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Speaker 3: And you know he caught a touchdown pass where he

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Speaker 3: stepped out of bounds and then makes up for it

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Speaker 3: by catching what should have been a season saving touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Instead it becomes a footnote. And I feel bad for

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Speaker 3: T Higgins who made a handful of the nicest catches

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Speaker 3: you will ever see, high degree at difficulty, lot riding

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Speaker 3: all three. Dude plays his hard out. It's a footnote.

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Speaker 3: Like I genuinely feel for some of these dudes who

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Speaker 3: are doing everything they can to win, like Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: or T Higgins feel or dudes who are doing the

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Speaker 3: best to to really earn a spot on this team

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Speaker 3: or in this league, or doing their best to atone

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Speaker 3: for previous mistakes. Like there are guys on offense and

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00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: special teams yesterday who are doing their part and it's wasted.

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Speaker 3: And to me, the single biggest word that comes to

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Speaker 3: mind when I think of last year in this year

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Speaker 3: is waste. The number of individual performances or careers, if

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Speaker 3: you want to put it that way, that the Bengals

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Speaker 3: as an organization are wasting.

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Speaker 4: Bad for Chase Brown, I do. Yeah, fourteen targets yesterday,

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Speaker 4: And one of the things we talked about you and

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Speaker 4: I together last week and even yesterday. As much as

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Speaker 4: we love Jamar Chase targets, Joe Flacco has got to

651
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Speaker 4: do a better job of spreading them out. Chase Brown

652
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: had fourteen Jamar Chase went over one hundred. See Higgins

653
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 4: went over one hundred. But how about meaningful plays of

654
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Speaker 4: the game. Tanner Hudson has a huge play, Mitchell Tinsley

655
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: had a huge playoff, Nissey Bosh has a huge, huge play,

656
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: Chase Brown putting his body on the line in the

657
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: receiving game. Like all of that, much like the whole

658
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: season last year for not because you wasted all based

659
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: on how bad your defense is and a series that

660
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: we brushed over off air, the whole idea around what

661
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: happened with the McPherson field goal attempt. Yes, Like, so

662
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: you have the grounding penalty that moves you back. Originally

663
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Speaker 4: it looks like they're going to go for it fourth

664
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Speaker 4: and three, and then it's a to get McPherson on

665
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 4: the field. The grounding made it forty fourth and thirteen thirteen. Yeah,

666
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Speaker 4: But then again with the way the offense is operating, Okay,

667
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: try it, but then you get into the point where

668
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: like they flashed a Flacco and then the next time

669
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Speaker 4: you see anything on camera at McPherson, Yeah, and he

670
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: hits a fifty four yarder and it comes up five

671
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Speaker 4: yards short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he may have missed that kick rushed, but I

673
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: don't know what it was. Rapeat tweeted about it in

674
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 3: real time where there's the grounding call, which I want

675
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: to talk about specifically. So it bumps them back thirteen yards,

676
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: the game clock is stopped, it looks like they're going

677
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: for it. Then they change their mind, and then very hurriedly,

678
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: the field goal unit charges out out of the field

679
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: and it feels like the entire operation was rushed. Now,

680
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 3: it's a fifty four yard kick, even in this era.

681
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: It's not a gimme sure, but it was short and

682
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: you couldn't help. But wonder had that been a little

683
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: bit more organized, like them deciding okay, grounding, we lose

684
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: the down, fourth and thirteen, let's kick. You wonder if

685
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: that kick is successful. It didn't look well put together.

686
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: It didn't look well organized for a team coached by

687
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: a dude in his seventh NFL season.

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the thing, and credit where credits do.

689
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: The offense has played much better. Zach Taylor deserves credit

690
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: for that, Sure, Joe Flacco deserves a lot of credit.

691
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Speaker 3: For that too.

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Speaker 6: Sure.

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Speaker 4: But the thing I keep going back to is lack

694
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Speaker 4: of hustle, lack of physicality, the mental airs, misalignments, the

695
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: physical airs that play with Evan McPherson, all of that

696
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: is an indictment on him, the head coach. And it's

697
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 4: also an indictment when you come out today and say

698
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Speaker 4: we're good, Our coaches are good. They're working hard. We

699
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: got to figure out some stuff. But no one's going

700
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Speaker 4: to lose their job over this.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned lack of hustle. Am I being a jerk?

702
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: If I wonder on the interception that we thought was

703
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: going to be a pick six where Chase Brown main

704
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: contact with Terrell Edmonds, Joe Flacco looked like the only

705
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: guy who ran back.

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: He did, the only guy that wanted to try to

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Speaker 4: make a tackle. And I get like, I get the

708
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase thing because he knew he was interfered with,

709
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: and he probably got up and saw the flag right away. Sure,

710
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: but everyone else, what are we doing Am I being

711
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: a jerk from God thought? I'm in my mind, I'm like, oh,

712
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 4: he's gonna walk in the end zone and I see

713
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Speaker 4: Flacco the only one down there.

714
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Speaker 3: I'm like, don't do anything. Just it was and maybe

715
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: maybe the other guy saw the flag, and so I

716
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: I want to give them the benefit of it out.

717
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: But I've watched that play a thousand times. They showed

718
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: it a bunch of times because obviously there was a

719
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: replay review, and I'm going, like, nobody, nobody else wanted

720
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Speaker 3: to go to length of the field. I just maybe

721
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: maybe I should give everybody the benefit of it out

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Speaker 3: that they saw the flag.

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Speaker 4: I just I keep going back to everything they did

724
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Speaker 4: well yesterday, then a lot again. Like you mentioned that

725
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: in today's football, you don't see kickoffs return for touchdowns.

726
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: You never seemingly see an onside kick recovered. They blocked

727
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Speaker 4: the kick.

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00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: The sidekick was recovered. It was fluky, Yes, their guy tight,

729
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: but they do get it. Yet it goes their way.

730
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Speaker 4: Yes, Like there's just there were so many of those

731
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: things that you're like, man, it just feels like things

732
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 4: are gonna break for the Bengals. Finally, and even after

733
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: the touchdown, p Ryan had a great return, they had

734
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: good field position most of the day. Flaco's playing at

735
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 4: an elite level, and yet you still lose a football game.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things you pointed out earlier

737
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Speaker 4: that sticks with me from being in a locker room.

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Speaker 4: If Jamar Chase and Chase Brown are willing to say

739
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Speaker 4: what they did to the media, how bad is it

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00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: when those doors are shut right? How bad is the

741
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Speaker 4: tension in the locker room right now? That to me

742
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: is a scary, scary thought for a coach who we

743
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: have raved about what the whole time, and he's not

744
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: the greatest play caller, but the culture.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing, Like it's there even when things

746
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 3: have gone poorly with Zach, You've never gotten the sense

747
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: things are gonna fracture. Number One, it certainly feels like

748
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Speaker 3: just what is coming out of the mouths of offensive

749
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: players like that is a distinct possibility. Number Two, people

750
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Speaker 3: want to leave human nature like You're right, I mean,

751
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: players are asking out like human nature in any organization,

752
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: these people are getting the job done. These people are not.

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00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: And these people who are getting the job done are

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00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: having to suffer for it. Invariably, there's gonna be conflict.

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Speaker 3: There are human beings, doesn't mean they're bad guys. Doesn't

756
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: mean they're bad teammates. If I was Chase Brown, if

757
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: I was Jamar Chase, if I was T Higgins, if

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00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: I was Joe Flacco, if I was any number of

759
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: those guys, hell yeah, I'd be outright pissed.

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Speaker 4: And you already hear it from Jamar right, He's like,

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Speaker 4: I ain't going to say anything else because I don't

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Speaker 4: want I'm talking about how I play.

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Speaker 3: I'm torn.

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Speaker 4: I've already had most milestone things happen in.

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Speaker 3: My life already.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been married, I've had three children. Last weekend,

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Speaker 4: I got to go in the Hall of Fame, right Like,

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Speaker 4: what else in my life is going to happen where

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Speaker 3: You just got hired at three.

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Speaker 4: I did just get a job back, So that might

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Speaker 4: be something to celebrate. It's gonna see some of my

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Speaker 3: Oh Maso was here. Yeah, anyway, thanks to us, Steven Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Steve. I want to roll through a couple

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Speaker 3: of plays from yesterday's game, one of which we already

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Speaker 3: talked about, which was the fifty four yard field goal

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Speaker 3: where it's intentional grounding. They lose the down, they lose

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Speaker 3: ten yards, They very hurriedly put the special teams unit

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Speaker 3: on the field, Joe Flacco was terrific yesterday. He should

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Speaker 3: be the best story right now in the NFL. But unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: because of the Bengals ineptitude on defense, he has to

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Speaker 3: be perfect. Yeah, and while he was good, he wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 3: That intentional grounding play Chicago had the first option read

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Speaker 3: very well, a guy in his eighteen season can't commit

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Speaker 3: intentional ground Now.

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Speaker 4: There, that's a tough one, but it's also the play

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Speaker 4: design itself. You were asking your receivers to be blockers.

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Speaker 4: T Higgins just has had a monster game, Yoshi vash

846
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: has had a monster game, and on the biggest snap

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00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: of the game, they don't even run around. They're used

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00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: as blockers. And so what I think is that to

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00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: me if you watch Chase on the backside as well,

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00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: the only what you're calling that is to throw it

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Speaker 4: behind a line of scrimmage to block the blocks.

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00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: Didn't work.

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00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: Again, you asked your best assets to be blockers on

854
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: the most important play the game, and I get one

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00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: to get the ball in Chase Brown's hands. But when

856
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: that's not available, there's really not a ton of options

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00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: for Flaco. And I think, yes, veteran but also shoulders

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00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: in a bad way. You've been hit already, a bunch

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00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: pressures wearing down on you. I think he was trying

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Speaker 4: to get it knowing that Chase was blocking originally to

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Speaker 4: get it there, but Chase adjusted when he saw Flacco

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00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 4: kind of look back and then goes deep.

863
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: And I think that's what caused that issue.

864
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: But I didn't love much as I liked what the

865
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 4: offense did, I didn't love the play call. To take

866
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: your best assets out of the equation on a big

867
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: down and distance, how about on the pick just a

868
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: tough trying to make something happen falling off your back leg.

869
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: At that point, you probably feel pretty desperate throw you

870
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: can't make. You're not counting on the defender to go

871
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: through your wide receiver to make a play without having

872
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: to interfere with him.

873
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: Do you think interference should have been called there if

874
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: you like, because there was We said before, the other

875
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: players didn't run down, maybe because they were looking. There

876
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: was no flag thrown, so that they would have been

877
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: looking for one.

878
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: By the letter of the rule, if you freeze the

879
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: play while the ball's in the air, it's pass interference.

880
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: The defenders their way early. It becomes such a bang

881
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: bang play that it's hard to call. You could have

882
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: called it either way, but it's a guy trying to

883
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: make too much happen.

884
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: There was a Chicago Bears touchdown that was awarded after

885
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor went to review a play where DJ Moore

886
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: took a ball sixteen yards, tried to extend it over

887
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: the goal line, then lost control. Zach Taylor wanted it reviewed,

888
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 3: and it was reviewed to see if it was fumbled,

889
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: and though it wasn't originally ruled a touchdown, then the

890
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: Bears were given a touchdown upon further review. I didn't

891
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: have a problem with that. It's late in the game.

892
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: Worst case, he's just going to hasten the inevitable, which

893
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: is they're going to score.

894
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: Anyone to say if that balls put out the one,

895
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: the only thing that's gonna happen, they're going to score

896
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 4: on the next play. I thought you'd take the gamble

897
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: and hope that maybe he did lose the ball early

898
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: and it's a touch back and you get possession.

899
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Then we're less than twenty four hours away from the

900
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: NFL's trade deadline. Oh. It has been reported Diana Russini

901
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: of the Athletic reports that the Bengals are asking for

902
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: a first round pick in exchange for Trey Hendrickson, who,

903
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: by the way, talked today and what was the quote?

904
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: Be where your feet are, be where your feet are?

905
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: He says he's not sure if he's going to play

906
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: the Bengals next game. He's still called day to day.

907
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: Bengals obviously don't play for thirteen days. Can the Bengals

908
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: get a first round draft choice for Trey Hendrickson?

909
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 8: No?

910
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: What I would like to know.

911
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: I want to ask an agent, like if if you're

912
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: representing a player and you want that player to be

913
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: in a better scenario, and you're reading that the team

914
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: wants a first rounder while you value your client, are

915
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: you also coming back to the team like what are

916
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: we doing? Like what are you not accepting here? Because

917
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: it's an agent, you probably want your your client.

918
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: To be in a better situation.

919
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: Sure, I would imagine the call would go something along

920
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 4: the lines of hey, Duke or whoever, we're interested in

921
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson, and then Duke would respond, well, we need

922
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: a first in return, and then I would presume to

923
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: hear a dial tone on the other end of the phone,

924
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: and then maybe another team picks back up and they say, well, okay,

925
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 4: Tray's off the table. What do you want for Logan Wilson?

926
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: You know this guy's not playing for you. You don't

927
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: value him enough to put him on the field. You

928
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: want you want to take like a six round pick

929
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: for him, and then Dukes probably like, ah, we see

930
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: him as a second or third And then there's a

931
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: dial tone and then that person calls back and they're like,

932
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 4: all right, it did work out with Trey or with Logan,

933
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: but you got a guy in mc kinley Jackson who

934
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: isn't active but he wants he wants out. Would you

935
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: take a seventh for him? And Duke would probably say

936
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: something along lines of well, we took him in the

937
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: third so we couldn't let him go for anything less

938
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: than that, And then you hear a dial tone on

939
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: the other end. That's how I presume the trade deadline

940
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: will go over the next twenty four hours. And I

941
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: get like, you want to put value on your guys,

942
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: there needs to be realistic value.

943
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: You're three and six, Trey Hendrickson is not under contract.

944
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: He's not gonna be a part of your future. It

945
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: would not make sense to franchise tag him. You've already

946
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: decided quite obviously, he's not a part of your future.

947
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: I'll take anything, Yeah, I mean, we just watched the

948
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: team with one hundred and sixty nine rushing yards fro

949
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: him yesterday on a seventh round pick that you swapped.

950
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 3: With the team last year. I'll take anything.

951
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 4: Give me more picks and then give me someone else

952
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: to make the picks, and I'd be happy.

953
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: I'll take anything for any of those guys. Can I

954
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: give you a Genostone quote? Please?

955
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: How do you respond to this Geno Stone talking about

956
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: al Golden quote? It's not the scheme. It's definitely not

957
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: the scheme. It's people doing their job. The scheme he

958
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: puts together is setting all of us up to be successful.

959
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: When you hear Geno Stone, who's one of the worst

960
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: safeties in football, say that about the coordinator, then you

961
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: have terrible players. Like, I don't know what else you want, Like,

962
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: that's an indictment on the players, and then that's an

963
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: indictment as well on Duke Topin. If your safety is saying,

964
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: don't blame aw, Aw's got us in the right spot.

965
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: Who are we gonna blame? Then the player that's executing

966
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: I think to a small degree.

967
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: While it's hard to say anything nice about Geno's stone,

968
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 3: and maybe it would have been cool how he stuck

969
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: around to answer questions yesterday, I'm gonna say that that

970
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: is his way of taking accountability. Yeah, now sure, Frankly,

971
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: is there anything any of those guys could say that

972
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: would make anybody feel better?

973
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: No, that's the problem. You're not gonna hear anything like

974
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: there was another thing and we'll play Zach. We're playing

975
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: him at the end of the show today. But Zach

976
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: also talked about like, well he had to sit down

977
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: and have a conversation with Chase Brown because the things.

978
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: He said were that's what he said. I want players

979
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: who care like Chase, So that's my thing.

980
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's two ways to handle it. Zach at

981
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: the podium today said I love Chase but or Chase Brown,

982
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: but I had to have a conversation with Miday because

983
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: that's not what we do.

984
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: Conversation with Chase Brown doesn't play defense.

985
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: I would rather a coach say, you know what, I appreciate,

986
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: there's gonna be emotions. We want players to be emotional.

987
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 4: We want winning to matter. And he was frustrated after

988
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: a loss and I'm not going to I'm.

989
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: Not going to rate him for that.

990
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: Those are like Zach's up there saying we need a

991
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: leader on defense, But Chase Brown's gonna get a talking

992
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 4: to because he said what he said. I want players

993
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 4: like that. Like I mentioned to you off air, I

994
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 4: would take vontez Perfect on this defense right now. Why

995
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 4: because I know vontez Perfect is going to give everything

996
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: he has. He's probably gonna go after with the whistle.

997
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: I don't remember the last time anyone's been close enough

998
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: to a quarterback to get a roughing the passer. I

999
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: genuinely don't. When's the last time they roughed the passer?

1000
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: When's the last time they just delivered a blow to

1001
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: someone that borderline after the whistle that got flagged, right,

1002
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: I'll take that at this point, any sign of life

1003
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: from the defense. Chamar Stewart's not been close to a

1004
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: quarterback since you and I watched him tackle Joe Burrow

1005
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: at training camp. Like did that make him scared? He

1006
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: get reprimanded, Like that's how crazy it is. Chamar Stewart

1007
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: has not been any closer to a quarterback than him

1008
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: hitting Joe Burrow at training camp. But yes, let's let's

1009
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 4: talk to Chase Brown because he said that stuff about

1010
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: a team.

1011
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: If if Zach Taylor takes issue with Chase Brown, I

1012
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: would tell Zach to get ready for a lot more

1013
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: conversations with his offensive players. He did prove because Chase

1014
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 3: Brown's comments. Yeah, because the frustration is only going to continue.

1015
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: Like I said this to you before, and I mean

1016
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: like there's going to be a fight. We're talking about

1017
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 3: competitive dudes. We're talking about guys who care. We're talking

1018
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: about guys who are playing their asses off, whose best

1019
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: efforts are going to be wasted. Like you can do

1020
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 3: that whole, Rob, Rob. We win as a team, lose

1021
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 3: as a team. Again, human nature dictates, I'm doing my part.

1022
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: The people closest to me are doing We're doing our part.

1023
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: These guys aren't. And there's no accountability, Like there's going

1024
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 3: to be something that happens. There's too much season left

1025
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: for there not to be if this continues, and why

1026
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: wouldn't it.

1027
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: And tougher opponents. Right, let me give you one more.

1028
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: Our guy, Austin Elmore just sent me this from Mike Petralia.

1029
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1030
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: Darren Simmons was asked about Evan McPherson's short kick on

1031
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 4: the fifty four yard attempt that came up short. Darren

1032
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: Simmons said it was because they had to kick with

1033
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: a quarterback ball, not a kicking ball. So if a

1034
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 4: kicker comes onto the field, they swap the ball out. Yeah,

1035
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks pick their balls. Kicker kicks their ball. Because the

1036
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: field came on the field after the plate clock started,

1037
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: the kicking team had to use the QB ball.

1038
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: That's where we're at.

1039
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: So since the plate clock started and they decided we're

1040
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 4: not gonna go for this, We're gonna send Devin out there,

1041
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: they couldn't even get a kicking ball on the field.

1042
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: Does Zach Taylor know that there's a different ball for kickers,

1043
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: I would hope so, because he had his offense out there.

1044
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: These are these aren't like April fools, like, hey, pick

1045
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 4: which one of these quotes is real? So these are

1046
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: all quotes.

1047
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: Flacco throws the pass. That's intentional grounding. The officials huddled

1048
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: to me because the Chicago sideline is going nuts. Yes,

1049
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of time, a lot of time between

1050
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: when that ball hit the ground, Yes, and when the

1051
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: Bengals attempted to feel.

1052
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 4: Time on the headset to say, hey, if they do

1053
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: call this, what do we want to do that We

1054
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 4: was gonna kick it.

1055
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: Plenty of time to go fourth and thirteen, Evan, let's

1056
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: go yes, right, yep, And at that point the officials know,

1057
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: let's swap out the ball. Yeah, Darren simmons explanation may

1058
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 3: be accurate. Yeah, but it doesn't give him an excuse.

1059
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: No, that sounds worse on the coaching staff. Yes, Like so,

1060
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 4: the way it's going to happen, intentional grounding is called,

1061
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: the penalty is assessed, they come back, they respot the ball.

1062
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 4: Once they respot the ball after a couple seconds, are

1063
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: going to start the play clock. Once the play clock

1064
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: is started, you can no longer substitute the ball out.

1065
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: And it's a big difference.

1066
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: Sure, like quarterbacks, their ball is not going to be

1067
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 4: as inflated as a kicking ball, so it's.

1068
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: Not going to go as far when you kick it.

1069
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: So, in all that time, had the Bengals just trotted

1070
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: Evan McPherson out there right away, what would have happened

1071
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: they swapped the ball out? Well, can I ask a question,

1072
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: William Wagner is the long snapper.

1073
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the field only on special teams downs.

1074
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: So if there's anybody on the team who should be

1075
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: able to put his hand on the ball and know

1076
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: whether or not it's the right one. And I'm legitimately

1077
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: asking here, right, is he allowed to go, hey, wrong ball?

1078
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: But once the play clock starts, that's it. But like

1079
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: so you either have to burn a time out if

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: they're to get the right ball in.

1081
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 3: But if the rule is kickers kick a certain ball,

1082
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: it's the k ball and the long snapper goes, this

1083
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: isn't the right ball. That's that's not on the Bengals.

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00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: So could I And I'm legitimately asking here, is William

1085
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: Wagner allowed to go, hey, we got the wrong ball?

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00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: I think he could, But then the official would say

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00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: the play clock already started, so that ball has to

1088
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 4: stay in the game.

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00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: But that's the baffling part of that quote is insane

1090
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: number one, Like all you had to do was decide

1091
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: on fourth and thirteen, we're not going for it here, yep,

1092
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: put the kicking unit on the field and there's plenty

1093
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: of time to swap in the correct ball. But once, but.

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00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: Like where else does this happen?

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00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: Once William Wagner. Once William Wagner gets his hands on

1096
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: the ball, does he not have the freedom to say, hey, wrong, doll? Wow?

1097
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, what a comedy of just.

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: It's just demoralizing you, like you're you're almost conditioned as

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00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: a fan to just this.

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: Will be the talking point for the next two weeks. Yeah,

1101
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: once we get the right ball straightened out, once we

1102
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: know the ball that's coming into the game, we'll be

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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: in a good spot. Okay, Well, twenty two after that's

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Speaker 3: chalk out as another one up that I never thought

1105
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: i'd read. About twenty two minutes after four o'clock, we're

1106
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: in Twin Peaks in Westchester. Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 3: Tony and Football Show, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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1109
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1110
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1112
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1113
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Speaker 7: East found Ronald Reagan Highway is now reopened from an

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Speaker 7: earlier accident between seventy five and Plainfield Road, but still

1116
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 7: about delays of two hours to get through there and

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00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: another crash on running road at tapped Road. I'm at

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Speaker 7: Ezelk with traffic.

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Speaker 5: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: In Westchester, home of the Tony and Mo Football Show

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Speaker 3: today and next week. By the way, Laurel Faylor, who

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Speaker 3: covers the Bengals as well as FC Cincinnati. Her FC

1126
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati newsletter is a muss and then does Bengals coverage

1127
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: for the Dayton Daily News and the Hamilton Journal News

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Speaker 3: has an explanation. So if the field goal unit comes

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00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: on after the play clock is started, they do not

1130
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: switch the ball. Yeah, so there you go. Yep.

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: So again we've seen four timeouts having to be taken,

1132
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, play clock winding down, things like that.

1133
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: If that is the case, just take the time like

1134
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: that's a scoring play. Like if you're gonna use the

1135
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: time out at the time, that's a scoring play.

1136
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: And that's one that you could like after the game,

1137
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: you could at least rationalize that's six minutes to go

1138
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. That's a scoring play.

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00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: Correct That Just.

1140
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Speaker 4: Again, these are things like that you should be shocked about.

1141
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: And we read these things and it's like, oh, that's

1142
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: the Bengals. That's a bad way to be.

1143
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: I am convinced more than ever that when Joe Burrow

1144
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: comes back, which really quick, if this team is out

1145
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: of it, we'll see you next year. Joe, You're not

1146
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: doing a Jade and Daniels thing. No, Joe's got to

1147
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: be under center. This offense does function way too well.

1148
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the things I lost track of yesterday,

1149
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 4: Like you get caught up in the game. I would

1150
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: have I would have guessed Chase Brown had more than

1151
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: thirty seven rushing yards.

1152
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt like it.

1153
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 4: But he had the ball so much because of is

1154
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 4: eight catches that you just kind of got. I mean,

1155
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: he touched the ball nineteen times. That's good and if

1156
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: you total up, you know his yardage, he's in a

1157
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: good spot. I just would have thought he would have

1158
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: had more rushing yards than just a thirty seven.

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: They did run running plays out of shotgun yesterday. Yeah,

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't like every running play was with

1161
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: Flacco and center, but it I don't know. Man. To me,

1162
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: it's among the many real interesting stories of the offseason,

1163
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: and there are many. How are you meshing the way

1164
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: this offense has functioned with how Joe wants to play,

1165
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: which is it's obviously something we've talked about in the

1166
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: past with Jake Browning.

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 4: But it's going to continue to be a thing. That's

1168
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: another offseason question. But again, they've failed on their off

1169
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: season answers. They did not protect Joe Burrow enough, that

1170
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: was a high priority. They have not addressed the defense

1171
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 4: in a positive way, and the defense was atrocious last year.

1172
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: The draft seems to have been a miss by a

1173
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 4: lot of different levels. It is, I mean, from a

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01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: whole right now, it's a failure.

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Speaker 3: Can I do one more miss? Please? Because it's and

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01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: I told you so. This has nothing to do with

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Speaker 3: the game yesterday we referenced Bob Trump. He's passing before. Yes,

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01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy will not be alive when he goes into

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Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor. Sad, stupid, huge miss, huge mess.

1180
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: Just yep. The I certainly give them credit for deciding

1181
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one we need a Ring of honor,

1182
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: but I remember talking about that this past summer going like,

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01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: just put these guys in, Yeah, just put just put

1184
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: them in, forget a vote, put them in so you

1185
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: don't confront a situation where someone has passed and they're

1186
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: not there for it. And Bob Trump, he deserves to

1187
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: be in the Ring of Honor as awesome as a

1188
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: broadcaster that as he was godfather of Cincinnati Sports Talk,

1189
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: was on the number one team on NBC. He's still

1190
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: the franchisees all time leader among tight ends in receiving

1191
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: four time pro bowler And now when they put his

1192
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: name in the Ring of Honor, which they should, I

1193
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: think will he won't be here for it. Great work,

1194
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: big miss.

1195
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Speaker 4: I I didn't know obviously like much of job Trumpy

1196
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: except what you heard in stories, but just.

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Speaker 3: An awesome dude.

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Speaker 4: Awesome dude, and like just for me personally, like he

1199
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Speaker 4: opened the door and man bridge a gap of former

1200
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Speaker 4: players getting into broadcasting like that was that was not

1201
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: as much of a thing. You're exactly right, And for

1202
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: him to go from player and not the.

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Speaker 3: Transitions and not just like doing color like hosting Showy, Yeah.

1204
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 4: His own show, Like that's it's very much of where

1205
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 4: I'm at is in large part due to the doors

1206
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: that he opened and started down the path of which

1207
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Speaker 4: is obviously you're very appreciative.

1208
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Speaker 3: Just the coolest guy and the greatest voice in the

1209
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: history of broadcasting. Yep. Took a lot of cigarettes to

1210
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: get it there.

1211
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard stories of like walking in and like

1212
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: barely being able to see him with.

1213
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: When we were working in Mount Adams and it became

1214
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: a non smoking building and Bob would come up to

1215
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: He did a show on Thursday Nights with Boomersie and

1216
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: Boomer was in New York, Bob was here, and I

1217
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: remember our boss at the time is like, hey, tonight,

1218
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: you got to tell Bobby can't smoke. And it's like,

1219
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: who wants to be the guard to do that? And

1220
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 3: I remember one of those weeks it was me and

1221
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, Trump, just FYI, don't shoot the messenger. You're

1222
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to smoke in the building. And he

1223
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: takes a big long drag and he goes and I

1224
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: can't do his voice. I'll take that under advisement. You

1225
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: know what I told you. Fantastic what a guy. Sad

1226
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: to see that he passed. And while we're thanking folks

1227
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: for bringing gifts, you just had another one, our guy,

1228
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Speaker 3: Scott Swiney, What a what a day, die hard Caroline

1229
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: for you, diehard Carolina guy, diehard Springsteen fan went to

1230
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: Nick's opening night. Wow, not a Knicks fan, but went

1231
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: to Nick's Opening night and brought me back the T

1232
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: shirt that was on the seat. This is karma. You

1233
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: paid it forward. This is karma because I went to

1234
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: the Knicks Pacers playoff game. It was a yellow shirt

1235
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: on the seat and you gave it away. I gave

1236
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: it to a listener who just asked if he could

1237
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: have it, and I sent it to him. I still

1238
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: think this is why you do nice things for people.

1239
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: I still think what you do with shirts that you

1240
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: receive over the course of a year, in different things

1241
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: you do as genius.

1242
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: Those are your vacation shirts.

1243
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: You wear them on vacation, any shirt that you're given,

1244
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: any shirt that you get at an event, things like that.

1245
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: Any but many shirts that you become your vacation shirts.

1246
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: I take old shirts or shirts that I don't want,

1247
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: and I wear them on vacation and then I throw

1248
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: them away on vacation and I don't have to bring

1249
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: them back. It's genius, it really is. We have to

1250
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: talk about the Bearcat game on Saturday. I've got a

1251
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Speaker 3: big contest. We're announcing as well next Tony and Moo

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Speaker 3: Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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1259
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Speaker 7: Eastbound Ronald Reagan Highway is now reopened from an earlier

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Speaker 7: accident between seventy five and Plainfield Road, but still about

1262
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Speaker 7: delays of two hours to get through there and another

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Speaker 7: crash on Reading Road at Taft Road on that ezelic

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Speaker 7: with traffic.

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Speaker 3: Sports. I want to share that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll give credit where credit is due. We

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Speaker 4: received a tweet over the break from Andrew Morgan who said,

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 4: really makes me think that Jake Browning was throwing the

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Speaker 4: kicking ball. If that's the case, we might ow jacin apology.

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Speaker 3: today said no staff, no staff changes are gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: at least not for now. He trusts al Golden Trust.

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Speaker 3: They've got an extra week to get ready for the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers with that staff intact, trying to improve upon

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Speaker 3: the worst defense in the history of the sport. The

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Speaker 3: game a week from Sunday is at one from across

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Speaker 3: Shore Stadium, I think is what they call it. Now.

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: You'll hear it on ESPN fifteen thirty. We'll run through

1283
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: the AFC North and the rest of the NFL coming

1284
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: up in the five o'clock hour. Meanwhile, Monday Night Football Tonight,

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Speaker 3: no radio coverage locally because we've got a ton of

1286
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Speaker 3: college basketball games Cardinals and Cowboys in Dallas. Baseball, Ryan

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Speaker 3: Valaide has been traded by the Reds to the Tampa

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Speaker 3: Bay Rays. If you don't remember Valaid's because he played

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Speaker 3: in one game last year. It was a good It

1290
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Speaker 3: was great. This was a great game. Remember college hoops

1291
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati and Western Carolina tonight at seven on seven hundred

1292
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Speaker 3: WLW pivotal Year five of the West Miller Era. Year

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Speaker 3: one of the Richard Patino Era gets underway tonight for

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Speaker 3: the Xavier Musketeers as they host Marist at seven to

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Speaker 3: fifteen on fifty five krc K. You will open up

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Speaker 3: the season against UC Claremont tonight at seven. You can

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Speaker 3: listen to that game on the project the station so good.

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Speaker 3: It's on two frequencies Wow, one hundred point seven and

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Speaker 3: one oh six point three. Also tonight, Miami hosts Old Dominion,

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Speaker 3: Ohio State takes on IU Indianapolis, and the Dayton Flyers

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Speaker 3: battle Canisius Soccer. The kickoff time for the game between

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati and Columbus was announced today, Game three, the

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Speaker 3: deciding game of that series, six pm on Saturday evening.

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati crush last night by Columbus by a score

1305
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: of four to nothing. Really quick, before we talk about

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Speaker 3: the Bearcats, We're going to do a giveaway for the

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Speaker 3: next few weeks that I think is as good as

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Speaker 3: how do I win this? By the way, this retails

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Speaker 3: man cave. So a couple of things. All right, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna announce the winner in early December. Okay, you can

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Speaker 3: involved in, either here at Twin Peaks or when we're

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Speaker 3: on from Oakley Greens. Wow, and we're gonna announce the

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Speaker 3: one I mentioned early December. It's gonna be on December

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1330
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Speaker 3: or Oakley Greens, or go to one of the five

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Speaker 3: area SIMS furniture stores. Wow, can't beat it. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Over three thousand dollars. Good to go.

1339
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Speaker 4: You know how much of the defense you could break

1340
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: down on a fifty five inch TV? Put the All

1341
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 4: twenty two on you could if you have a if

1342
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 4: you watch it on a fifty five inch you'd be

1343
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 4: able to see if it's a kicking ball or quarterback ball.

1344
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 4: You might be able to phone in director of common Sense.

1345
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 4: Yet another time where your job role would have been pivotal. Yes, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach,

1346
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 4: that ball looks like it's a quarterback ball, like.

1347
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: Legitimately, and I know we're gonna talk about the Bearcats here,

1348
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: How does a head coach in his seventh season be

1349
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: that indecisive incredible about what to do in that situation.

1350
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: It's fourth and fourth, it's fourth and thirteen. It's not

1351
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 3: even like fourth and six or seven where you've gone

1352
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 3: from fourth and one or fourth and shure, and it's

1353
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: a it's a ten yard penalty and loss of down.

1354
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: How well are we sure that Russ Knack used a

1355
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 4: kicking ball at Utah?

1356
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 8: Oh?

1357
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: Very good, pivot, very good?

1358
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 4: Sure are we sure that that was a kicking ball

1359
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: in place?

1360
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: So here's here's how I want to process you See's loss, Okay,

1361
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 3: And then there's how I'm afraid I'm going to process

1362
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: u See's loss. Yeah. How I want to process it is,

1363
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: you know what just not there at night? Yep. Utah's

1364
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 3: great at running the ball average two to sixty seven

1365
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 3: on the ground coming in ran for exactly two sixty

1366
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: seven against Cincinnati. That two sixty seven, Yes, number one

1367
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 3: in the country minus the Service academies. So you knew

1368
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: they were going to run the football and they did.

1369
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: You know that Cincinnati's defensive weakness has often this season

1370
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: been stopping the run. What they fell victim to were

1371
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: some things that have been uncharacteristic at this team. Turnovers,

1372
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: they had three of them now they got the ball

1373
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: back immediately after one of them. With three turnovers one

1374
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: in the red zones. Killer, they miss a field goal,

1375
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: they give up a punt return for a touchdown. Special

1376
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: teams play has been awesome for Cincinnati. It was the

1377
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: exact opposite on Saturday, and Brendan sores Be played as

1378
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: poor as he has I think since being a Bearcat.

1379
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: That obviously hasn't been the rules. So the way I

1380
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: want to process it is what you expected to go wrong, did,

1381
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: but a lot of other stuff went wrong that typically

1382
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: doesn't go wrong, and so the loss isn't worth making

1383
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: a big deal out of because a lot of those

1384
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: things that went wrong aren't really of who they are.

1385
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: How I fear I'm going to process it is this

1386
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: that the offense to a degree, looked a lot like

1387
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: it did toward the end of the season last year.

1388
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: Guys couldn't get open, wasn't a ton of creativity. Sores

1389
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 3: By was either gun shy or just simply not very good.

1390
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: They couldn't work in Joe Royer, and so this could

1391
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: be the beginning of a downward slide that results in

1392
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: a deeply unsatisfying win loss record after starting seven and one. Yah,

1393
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: how should I process it? The former or the latter.

1394
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna give them the benefit of down on

1395
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 4: the former because they did it over a seven game

1396
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 4: stretch where they didn't turn the ball over. They were

1397
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 4: extremely efficient, and I think through money of those seven games,

1398
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: Mo we said the same thing of they're kind of

1399
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 4: playing with fire in some of these the laws they

1400
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 4: would go on, but they had always found a way

1401
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 4: and they always answered. And to me, that's how I'm

1402
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 4: hoping this comes out. And in processing it, I thought

1403
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 4: all along when they got to the last four, win

1404
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 4: three out of four, and you're in good shape. They

1405
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 4: still if they beat Arizona BYU at home and TCU

1406
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 4: on the road, they'll play for a big twelve championship.

1407
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 4: So there's still a lot ahead of this team that

1408
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 4: you probably could do. What All right, let's watch the tape,

1409
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: let's throw it away, and then let's move on. There's

1410
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: also that concern of we saw them stumble down the

1411
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: stretch and it felt like at times the book was

1412
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 4: out on them last year, like they had been figured

1413
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 4: out if I watched that game and I am Arizona,

1414
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: and I'm BYU, and I'm TCU. I am pressuring this

1415
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 4: team until they show me they have an answer for it.

1416
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: That's all Utah did.

1417
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 4: I mean, it was unprecedented, the amount of times Utah

1418
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: brought pressure. Scott's saddlefield with me after the game alluded

1419
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 4: to it. They were just bringing pressure a ton and.

1420
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 3: It didn't result in sacks. What was the answer to it?

1421
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 4: Like I think of man pressure, I think of crossing

1422
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: routes man killers. I think of tight end play man killer.

1423
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 4: I think of extending the pocket and using your quarterback

1424
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 4: as a run pass option man killer. I think of

1425
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: even and out the numbers in the box by using

1426
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 4: the quarterback in design runs.

1427
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: He only was ran the ball twice. It stares me.

1428
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 4: So my concern is if we're seeing that, why weren't

1429
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 4: they able to adjust to it? And will you have

1430
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: a better answer for it? Like, it's not we went

1431
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 4: into the game. It's not new that Utah pressures.

1432
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: It's not new. They ran the most man coverage in

1433
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: college football this year.

1434
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 4: You knew that was coming. You didn't have an answer

1435
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: all night for it. That's my concern last year the

1436
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: book got out and you didn't make the adjustments, and

1437
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 4: what did we see the wide receivers outside of Cyrus's

1438
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 4: Alan Cyrus Allen's explosive play, kind of getting walled off

1439
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: at the sideline, not a lot of separation, not a

1440
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 4: lot of route concepts. It was fade routes and many

1441
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 4: of those landed in the six to seven yards out

1442
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 4: of bounds slot.

1443
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 3: So it was a.

1444
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 4: Weird game, forty five team. And there's a point I'm like,

1445
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 4: I feel like the defense wasn't awful.

1446
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: Really bad on second and Long. Second Long was terrible.

1447
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: You pointed out often during the broadcast.

1448
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: The second Long was awful, but you give up the

1449
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: punt return a couple of momentum plays and it got

1450
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 4: away from him late. But I thought for much of

1451
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 4: that game like they gave him a shot in the

1452
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 4: second half, they got to stop you see, scored, then

1453
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: they got a turnover, and I felt like, if you see.

1454
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 3: It takes advantage down ten and goes and scores, here

1455
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: we go.

1456
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: You see went three and out and they never got

1457
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: their footing back after that. So it's, uh, it's at

1458
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: times maddening to me. At some of the usage rates

1459
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 4: on offense, Well, can you know who they are on defense?

1460
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: Can you the usage rate on offense? Everybody who follows

1461
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 3: the Bearcats or rights about or talks about the draft

1462
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: and mentions Joe Royer seems to believe that he has

1463
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: a bright future in the NFL. A tight end. He

1464
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: looks the part.

1465
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: Top McShay had him in the first round of his

1466
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 4: like preseason draft had him in the first round pick

1467
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 4: number thirty one.

1468
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: He has twenty three catches this season. He has two

1469
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 3: each of the last two weeks. In no game does

1470
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: he have more than five catches, and he's had five

1471
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: catches in one game once. Now, when the offense is working,

1472
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: not a big deal. When the offense isn't working, and

1473
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 3: in their two losses it really hasn't worked, Joe Royer

1474
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 3: has a combined four catches for twenty one yards. Yep,

1475
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 3: he should be a bigger factor. I don't understand it.

1476
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: I look at other tight ends in college football and

1477
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 3: I see how they're used, and I think Scott Zanderfield's

1478
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: offense this year has often been very creative and it's

1479
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: often been very productive. But I just for what we

1480
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 3: know about Joe Royer for all of his measurables that

1481
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 3: people love. For as much as everybody believes, this guy's

1482
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 3: a chance to go the NFL and have a very

1483
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 3: good career. If you just look at the numbers, if

1484
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 3: you just look at the stats, you don't know what

1485
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 3: twenty three catches like. Why is he not a bigger

1486
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 3: factor in their offense? Yeah?

1487
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 4: Someone the NFL Draft buzz. His biggest weakness still developing

1488
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 4: as a blocker. That's all he's used for. His strengths

1489
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: are his pass catching, his route, running right yards after

1490
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: the catch. That's his strengths, right, Like they're not being utilized. This,

1491
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 4: this says of Joe Royer NFL Draft Buzz, Royer is

1492
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 4: a matchup problem that defensive coordinators will lose sleepover in

1493
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: the NFL.

1494
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: That good of a matchup problem.

1495
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yet he's been targeted once each of the

1496
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 4: last two games.

1497
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 3: And by the way, and he caught both of those targets.

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Speaker 3: I'll mention this about Saturday. It's not like I often

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Speaker 3: thought he was open. I mean, right, I love Joe,

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Speaker 3: but I mean it ain't like I was saying to

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Speaker 3: myself throwing the it wasn't open, right, I just his

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 3: role in the offense should be bigger. And this is

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: something Tony, you and I talked about it after they

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 3: won against Baylor and scored in six of their seven

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01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: real possessions. I just what I think about Joe and

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: what I think NFL people think about Joe versus how

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01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 3: he's used those There's not a It doesn't mesh.

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it, especially when your offense is

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01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 4: struggling to get going right or Brendan Swarsby's with eleven

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: of thirty three. He got a couple of ballot balls

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01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 4: bat it down early. That messes with you in your

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 4: progression a little bit. The one way you get a

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01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 4: guy on track, it's like a shooter in basketball getting

1514
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 4: to the foul line, find an easy completion or two.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's Joe Royer, whether it's a screen, whether

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 4: it's a stick route. We saw a stick route against

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: Baylor or the home game prior where he took it

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 4: almost a distance five yard pass and he took it

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Speaker 4: seventy yards.

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Speaker 3: That's what he can do.

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 4: I just don't understand, especially when the offense goes through laws,

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 4: why he's not utilized more in the passing game. But

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 4: with all that said, this team still has a shot

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01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 4: to play for a Big twelve champions.

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Speaker 3: If they excuse me, if they went out two of

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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 3: the next three year at home. By the way, if

1527
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: you if you didn't see the Arizona game, which is

1528
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: their next home game, is going to be a noon kickoff.

1529
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: The Wildcats crushed Colorado, which is awful this year. The

1530
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: by game is going to be here. BYU and Texas

1531
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 3: Tech play this week and then Cincinnati ends up the

1532
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: season regular season at TCU. They control their own.

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Speaker 4: Math is easy. The maanthusy Texas Tech has one Big

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01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: twelve loss. If BYU beats them, that's their second, and

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 4: then you see could hand BYU their first loss, and

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01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: on the head to head tie breaker. If BYU lose

1537
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 4: this and you see still beats them, then that's BYU

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: second loss.

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01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 3: So you play Texas Tech in the Big TA.

1540
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 4: Like the Houston loss clears this up a lot based

1541
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 4: on lost west each other. One team is going to

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01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 4: have two losses and the others are going to have

1543
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 4: one if you went out, So the.

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01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: Math works out what I watched on Saturday does not

1545
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: know And Brendan Sorosby's had a very good year, but

1546
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. Last year, it felt

1547
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: like one bad game snowball, and I worry about that

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 3: happening this year.

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Speaker 4: And I worry about that, Like on a national level,

1550
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 4: if you haven't watched, you see us closely, and then

1551
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: you turned on College game Day.

1552
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, College Game Day was awesome.

1553
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: They did two separate individual stories about Swersby and then

1554
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 4: you watch that and you never got his name, right, Yeah,

1555
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 4: and then you turn on for the first time. Let's

1556
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 4: see what this guy's about, and that's what you watched. Yeah,

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01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 4: that's I mean, I hate that for him because he's

1558
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 4: been so good, but on a national level, when the

1559
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 4: build up has not been higher for you or this team,

1560
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 4: it was just his worst performance we've seen.

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Speaker 3: He'll get a chance to atone for it, sure, but

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: what I'm curious is snowball like last year or one off.

1563
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 3: If it's a one off, this team's fine.

1564
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're gonna be you hope, they have the leadership.

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they bounce back after Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: But I also think it's interesting not just injuries, influential injuries. Yeah,

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01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 4: Dante Corleone's not being right. Jake Golday didn't finish the game.

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Speaker 4: Evan Pryor was out. Yeah, I don't know if Michael

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01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 4: er if Mickel Walker had any I always called Michael

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01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 4: Warren because I think if they're similar backs. Yeah, but

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 4: he only had seven carries in the game. They're not

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 4: only they have guys banged up, but they have guys

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01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: banged up at key positions. And I think the bye

1574
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 4: week's coming into purpose.

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Speaker 3: As good as they are at linebacker, Jake Golday is indispensable.

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01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 3: Dante Corleone when healthy, is still their best player. And

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Speaker 3: I think you can get by without Evan Pryor or

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: tyr Wee Walker. Yeah, I don't think you can get

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 3: by without both. We'll see. It's eight away from five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Back to the Bengals, whether we like it or not.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after the top of the hour, it's Antonian

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Speaker 3: Mo Football Show at Twin Peaks in Westchester on ESPN

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Speaker 3: but light five o'clock Happy Hour portion of the Tony

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Speaker 3: crowd today, We're having fun. Despite the weekend's results, the

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Speaker 3: folks here at Twin Peaks have been terrific. We've got

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Speaker 3: kind of stress free. I'm looking forward to us stress

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Speaker 3: free weekend. Yeah. Cee Cincinnati FC Cincinnati Days at six

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Speaker 3: game where they kind of came on glued yea the

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Speaker 3: a week from today. The Westchester location before returning to

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Speaker 3: Florence on November seventeenth, Do you just do you want

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Speaker 3: to run through here? We're gonna we haven't touched on

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Speaker 3: the rest of the NFL, the AFC North. We'll do

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Speaker 3: that and we'll here Zach Taylor's press conference later on

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Speaker 3: this hour. Can you run through the quotes? Yeah, you

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01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 3: read to me during they hour break. So Jordan Battle

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 3: is talking today. It's good, okay.

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 4: He was asked after yesterday's game if Zach Taylor's messaging

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 4: to the team was any different today than a normal Monday,

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: And to me, that's that's that's important because if the

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01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 4: messaging is the same, there's a bigger problem, then the

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Speaker 4: results are probably gonna be quote whatever. His comment to

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01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: that question was no comment. So one, how hard would

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 4: it be to say, yes, the messaging was different? You

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01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: know there's a sense of urgency. Yeah, we realized that

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01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor was asked the exact same question, and you'll

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 4: hear that later in the hour. His response, I guess

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01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: you'd have to ask the players. Can we just get

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 4: an answer?

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01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 3: Listen? Like it has been.

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Speaker 4: Back to back weeks of arguably the worst losses in

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01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 4: franchise history, based on how it happened, and a fair

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 4: question is asked of is the messaging any different today

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01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 4: than it normally?

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01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 3: Is? No comment? And then Zach is asked, and Zach.

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01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: Could also most say what, Yeah, it was that we

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01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 4: need more attention to detail. There's an understanding that the

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 4: product we've put out for the last couple of weeks

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01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 4: is not good enough and we're going to adjust that.

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 4: And we made sure today that the tone was set.

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Speaker 3: That's easy. Instead, what was it? You have to ask them?

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Speaker 4: So just deflecting. No one wants to tone that like

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 4: somebody own up for how bad this is.

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Speaker 3: So there's where I was going to go next. So

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 3: Paul Dayner Junior wrote a piece after the game yesterday

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01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: pointing out how with a lot of the offensive players,

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01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 3: you're getting visible and outward and public frustration. Chase Brown,

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and at least me, I can't blame those guys.

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Speaker 3: Dana wrote about how he goes in the locker room

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Speaker 3: after the game. Chris Jenkins, Chamar Stewart, and Jordan Battle,

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Speaker 3: who to his credit, did talk today, I guess all

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Speaker 3: declined the opportunity to speak. Geno Stone gone before media

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01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: members even got into the news conference room, and then

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Speaker 3: Paul points out that was even some notable laughter involved.

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Speaker 3: Now that's what you want. Paul does point out that

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Speaker 3: Barret Carter and Demetrius Knight were made available and talked.

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 3: Dax Hill same as well. But you have a lot

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01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,799
Speaker 3: of guys who don't want to talk. Now, I don't

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01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 3: like it, but okay.

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01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 4: It's also crazy because Shamar Stewart had no problem talking

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 4: when it was about his contract, no doubt about it.

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 3: You're right about that, So okay, fine, it's right after

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01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 3: the game. Maybe they don't want to say the wrong thing.

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01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll present themselves tomorrow like Jordan Battle he did.

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Speaker 3: If I was Duke Tobin, if I legitimately felt responsible

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 3: about this mess, I would feel like, you know what,

1685
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 3: My coach has to talk multiple times per week. These

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01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: players after they play have to have microphones shoved in

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01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: their face, and nobody's gonna feel sorry for them. You

1688
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna answer questions. This is to me frustrating,

1689
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 3: and I don't say this from my perspective. I don't

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01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: understand how if you're Duke Tobin in this decision making

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Speaker 3: capacity involving a franchise that millions of people care about

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 3: You're never made available, right. He talks at the combine,

1693
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 3: He talks at the mock turtle soup. He usually does

1694
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: a hit with the TV people during a preseason game

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01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: and then a wall. You don't see him, you don't

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Speaker 3: hear him, And for the most part, I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 3: But to me, during a crisis time, especially when you're

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: at your by, this is where I would say, you

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01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 3: know what, folks have questions. I'll try to provide some answers.

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Speaker 3: That's the person who should be talking this week.

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Speaker 4: If there was ever a time that he did talk

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01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 4: sits Now. Yeah, what this team has done the last

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01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. You're on a buy. The roster is

1704
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 4: in disarray, and it's we already know what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be radio silence, right. All we hear is

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Speaker 4: what they want a first round it for head like.

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Speaker 4: So they're just operating with business as usual. Uh huh,

1708
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 4: that's my problem. Identify there's a huge issue. Identify you're

1709
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 4: not going to the playoffs this year. Identify Trey Hendrickson's

1710
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 4: not going to be here next year, and get something

1711
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 4: in return for him. Do the same with Logan Wilson,

1712
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 4: who's not a part of your future, get something in

1713
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 4: return now instead of just this whole status quo. It's

1714
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 4: a bye, we're here, we're on to we're on to Pittsburgh,

1715
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: We're on to the second half of the schedule. Change

1716
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 4: it up at least, because that, to me would.

1717
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 3: At least show urgency.

1718
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 4: It would at least show that someone in the in

1719
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 4: the building is identifying that, hey, hand up, what's going

1720
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 4: on right now is wrong. Duke's gonna talk. We owe

1721
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 4: it to the media, We owe it to our fans.

1722
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 4: Like one of the hot button topics has been the

1723
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 4: season ticket renewals, one of the hot button topics has

1724
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: been the fans that are just so mad. I hope,

1725
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 4: I hope season tickets are sold out from the rest

1726
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 4: of my lifetime. But it would help that in an

1727
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 4: organization if Duke Tobin talks, because people want to know, like,

1728
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 4: what's the plan's accountability? What is like this isn't good enough?

1729
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 4: Can someone give me a little bit of the blueprint

1730
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 4: of what the plan is going forward that I can

1731
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 4: stake my claim to, because right now all it.

1732
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 3: Is is who Joe and Jamar and Tey are here?

1733
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 3: Be happy. It's accountability. It's the owner never talks, and

1734
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: the person who works directly underneath the owner, who's in

1735
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: charge of the roster, never talks. And again, I don't

1736
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: say this from my perspective enough. Duke Tobin wanted to

1737
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 3: come on the radio with me, That's fine, that ain't

1738
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 3: gonna happen. But I just I look at it from

1739
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 3: if I were Duke Tobin, I'd be watching people take

1740
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: bullets for me. Yep, I gotta watch. And anyway, a

1741
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: lot of these players shouldn't be here. A lot of

1742
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: these players shouldn't have been here to begin with. Zach

1743
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 3: Taylor deserves every ounce of criticism coming his way. But

1744
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 3: at least those guys Zach Taylor has to talk every

1745
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 3: single week, three times a week during season. The players

1746
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 3: they conduct reporters that they choose to but but they're

1747
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 3: at least there to be asked. They can politely decline.

1748
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 3: If I'm Duke Tobin, I go, you know what, We're

1749
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 3: halfway through the season. I was there to get the

1750
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Executive of the Year award when we went to the

1751
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Now's my turn to eat some cheese, Now's

1752
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 3: my turn to show some accountability. He may offer answers

1753
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: that nobody likes. Chances are that would be the case,

1754
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 3: but that to me is frustrating. That that is because

1755
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 3: I said to you last week, I put myself in

1756
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 3: the position of Mike Brown with Duke Tobin sitting across

1757
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 3: from me, and I go, why can't you fix this?

1758
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 3: It would be neat to hear from Duke Tobin when asked,

1759
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: why can't get why can't you fix this?

1760
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: I just want I want to know that inside the

1761
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 4: walls of that facility things aren't status quo. I want

1762
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 4: to know that they are approaching things differently, whether that's

1763
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 4: a coach, whether it's a GM, whether it's a player.

1764
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 4: Can I hear from somebody that says, you know what

1765
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 4: today was different? A tone was set today. Things have

1766
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,440
Speaker 4: to change. We're taking the steps necessary at the bare minimum.

1767
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 4: That's not hard to say, right Instead, it's well, ask

1768
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 4: the players, and then the player doesn't have a comment,

1769
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 4: and then you can't talk to Duke Tobin. So all

1770
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 4: you're left to do is just sit here and stew

1771
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 4: over the fact that this roster is terrible. The way

1772
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 4: they've been coached is bad. The way they've been constructed.

1773
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 4: The way they've drafted is awful, and no one talks,

1774
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: so you don't have an answer to anything. Now I'm

1775
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 4: watching mock drafts for twenty twenty six and thinking to myself, Wow,

1776
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,919
Speaker 4: could they lay Land Caleb Downs at number nine.

1777
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,839
Speaker 3: That's already what we're on to number nine.

1778
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 4: Number nine, there'd be the number nine overall pick right

1779
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 4: As of right now in the draft, I'm not quite.

1780
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 3: To the point where I'm starting to figure out what's

1781
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 3: the best draft pick they could get, but I'm pretty

1782
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 3: damn close. Yep, you want to talk about the rest

1783
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 3: of the NFL, I would like to. We'll do that

1784
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 3: when we changed years. It's the Tony and Noel Football

1785
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1801
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Speaker 3: It's the Total Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. We

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Speaker 3: are broadcasting from Twin Peaks in Westchester. We're back here

1804
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 3: in Westchester next week. You will hear the contractually obligated

1805
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 3: airing of Zach Taylor's weekly press conference coming up here

1806
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Speaker 3: in just a bit. Don't forget. We have Bengals Line

1807
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Speaker 3: at six oh five tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty, starring

1808
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 3: Lance McAllister and Dave Lapham Tony. We have not had

1809
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: a chance to go around the NFL yet. Please you

1810
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 3: want to do it? I can't wait so right now.

1811
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Steelers have a two game lead over the

1812
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens in the AFC North, and yet both are

1813
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 3: co favorites according to various sports books at minus one

1814
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 3: thirty five to win the division. Baltimore on Monday. Here's

1815
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 3: what stood out to me. Yes, Lamar Jackson came back

1816
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 3: and he was terrific, But that defense, that much malign defense.

1817
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 3: Say which one about Miami? The first team in the

1818
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 3: NFL this season to hold opponents to seventeen or less

1819
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 3: in three straight games.

1820
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Speaker 4: You know, I think of yesterday in the AFC North,

1821
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 4: and I think of, obviously the bad defense that we've

1822
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 4: spent much of today talking about. Pittsburgh played great defense

1823
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 4: against Jonathan Taylor and Indy, and the Baltimore Ravens played

1824
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 4: great defense in their game against the Miami Dolphins. Can

1825
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 4: talk about the offenses, talk about coming back. Like you said,

1826
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers and the Ravens both invested heavily on the

1827
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball. It hadn't panned out much

1828
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: in the early part of the season, but as you

1829
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 4: start to get to this point, you start to see

1830
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 4: the coaching, you start to see the development of these players,

1831
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 4: and I think you're seeing that across the AFC North.

1832
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: Outside of what the Bengals are doing, you're seeing teams

1833
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 4: that are improving each week. You look at Baltimore's upcoming schedule,

1834
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 4: you see why they're a co favorite, and I thought Pittsburgh,

1835
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 4: we talked about this yesterday when we kind of picked games.

1836
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 4: Yesterday felt like a game to me that Mike Tomlin

1837
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 4: shouldn't win but always finds a way to win. Yeah,

1838
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 4: and then you talk about Pittsburgh finding their footing on

1839
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. It's frustrating to watch

1840
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 4: because you see teams develop, developing players, developing schemes, making

1841
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 4: adjustments as the season goes on. And I thought that

1842
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 4: the Ravens and the Steeler should both be applauded for that.

1843
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: So Pittsburgh fans yesterday outside the stadium held a funeral

1844
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 3: for the Steelers defense. The defense respond against Indianapolis is

1845
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 3: statistically the best offense in the league. You know, we

1846
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 3: could talk about whether or not we really are buying

1847
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 3: into Daniel Jones, but they came into that game and

1848
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 3: we talked about it yesterday. Statistically the best offense in

1849
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 3: the league. And the Steelers had five sacks and six takeaways.

1850
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,879
Speaker 3: And that's the Bengals next opponent.

1851
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 4: Do you think a funeral by the fans or a

1852
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 4: players only meeting is more effective?

1853
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 3: Well, what's the gimmick this week? What can we do

1854
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 3: to help what can we do? So this week, I'm

1855
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 3: guessing the gimmick is self scout. Oh yeah, right, yeah,

1856
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 3: self scout. Look at the tape, look at the tate.

1857
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Have the offensive coaches look at the defense, which, by

1858
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 3: the way, I'm in favor of sure, because it feels

1859
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 3: like the offensive coaches kind of know what they're doing.

1860
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 3: The offensive coaches look at the defense, and then you

1861
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 3: have the defensive stath do some self scouting of Joe Flack.

1862
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 3: How do you think that would look.

1863
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 4: I've never, like we said this earlier, I've never heard

1864
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,919
Speaker 4: during a broadcast one of the members of the broadcast

1865
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 4: being so critical of the team's yes, coaching, yeah, and

1866
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 4: scheme as Adam Rcheletti, Yes, was very critical of what

1867
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 4: are they doing? You're slanting this way, and you're leaving

1868
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 4: this open, You're you're running and lining up here. If

1869
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 4: if an analyst who's calling the game is being that critical,

1870
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 4: it is insane how bad it is? So yes, any

1871
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 4: self scouting, Hey, maybe let's try this. Maybe don't put

1872
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: your guys in this situation. Maybe number twenty two doesn't

1873
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: have to be on the field for one hundred percent

1874
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 4: of the snaps. Some of those things. Maybe number ninety

1875
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 4: seven should be in a different position. Perhaps, is there

1876
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 4: anywhere else on the field that he can play that

1877
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 4: defensive or offensive lineman can't make highlight tape reels about.

1878
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 3: Him, so you could do the self scouting gimmick. They

1879
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: haven't taken the ping pong table out yet. That hasn't

1880
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 3: been a thing. Got be next. You would think maybe

1881
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 3: during the bye that that that'll be it. I wonder

1882
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: if they take this week and separate the locker rooms like, well,

1883
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 3: you told me once your defensive coordinator Joe Tracy. Yeah,

1884
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 3: they made him.

1885
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 4: Shower until the defense played better.

1886
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 3: So maybe they can do something similar with just all

1887
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: the defensive players.

1888
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 4: I just wonder, like players get a couple days off,

1889
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 4: they come back in and then there's like two different doors.

1890
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,839
Speaker 4: One says defense, one says offense, and then that way

1891
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 4: we can avoid again. I don't the tension in those

1892
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 4: postgame comments yesterday. Holy cow, Yes, that would be my

1893
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 4: first order of business. How can we separate these sides

1894
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 4: in that way they don't have to interact with each

1895
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 4: other all week. Yeah, practice on different fields. One team

1896
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 4: offense is in the bubble today. Defenses outside scout teams

1897
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 4: go accordingly. Don't even let them see each other.

1898
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 3: Which team in the AFC North will finish the last

1899
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: The Browns didn't play yesterday. Cleveland two and six, Cincinnati

1900
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 3: three and six. This is awful. This is where we are.

1901
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I think it's the Bengals.

1902
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like out of the by Pittsburgh, New England, Baltimore, Buffalo, Baltimore.

1903
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 3: They won't be favored in any of those.

1904
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 4: No, no, they they just made in my like to me,

1905
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 4: they made Justin Fields and Caleb Williams make me think

1906
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 4: Tom Brady was coming on the field at the last

1907
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 4: drive of the game.

1908
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't just that it was the Bears with what

1909
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 3: they were doing. They had four different players throw passes.

1910
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 4: The best player didn't have a catch and all, by

1911
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 4: the way, their starting running back was out and the

1912
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 4: running back that played that's the seventh round pick that

1913
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 4: the Bengals sent them last year from Khalil Herbert. That

1914
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: is the ultimate ultimate kicking the groin. And if you

1915
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 4: look at the upcoming schedule again, justin Fields and Caleb Williams.

1916
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: I had a double take because I thought Brady was

1917
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Speaker 4: running on the field with a minute left, right, what's Rogers?

1918
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Speaker 4: We already saw what Rogers did against this defense. Drake

1919
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Speaker 4: may Lamar Jackson twice and Josh Allen went over the

1920
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Speaker 4: next five is a game that you can go into

1921
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: because as bad as it's been against the Jets and

1922
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 4: the Bears, you still went into that game saying, I

1923
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 4: can see the path they win. I don't know the

1924
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,879
Speaker 4: path in the next five agreed, and Cleveland agreed. Great defense,

1925
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 4: but at least they're playing with something now. Defense is

1926
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 4: spectacular and they're gonna try some young quarterbacks. We've talked

1927
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 4: multiple times this year that it feels like from a

1928
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 4: draft process alone, they got it right with their picks.

1929
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Speaker 4: So it's crazy. But as we sit here on November three,

1930
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Speaker 4: I probably trust the Browns organization to figure it out

1931
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,799
Speaker 4: more down the stretch than the Bengals.

1932
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Speaker 3: I think I do as well. Do you have any

1933
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Speaker 3: major takeaway from the game between Buffalo and Kansas City?

1934
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Speaker 4: No, because you see, like what at five and one,

1935
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 4: now Allen against Mahomes in the regular season, regular season? Yeah,

1936
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 4: what's it? What's it added up to?

1937
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Speaker 3: Nothing? Nothing? Yeah?

1938
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Speaker 4: Like, this is the Chiefs and it's who they are.

1939
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 4: They're gonna grow from it, They're gonna learn from it.

1940
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Speaker 4: I thought it was good that Josh Allen got going

1941
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 4: a little bit. Yeah, he was terrific and it was fantastic,

1942
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 4: But there are there are questions about that. I mean

1943
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:02,440
Speaker 4: receivers and the separation in which can get the consistency

1944
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 4: in the running game, the defense, and they've gone through injuries.

1945
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Speaker 4: I still trust Kansas City will be there come playoffs.

1946
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 4: And it's another edition of a good regular season win

1947
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Speaker 4: for Buffalo over Kansas City.

1948
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Speaker 3: So I will admit to you because of our travel schedule.

1949
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 3: You know, we got in at six fifteen yesterday morning,

1950
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 3: back from Salt Lake City, went and got breakfast, shout

1951
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 3: out to the merl Anger, Kentucky waffle House. After them,

1952
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 3: went to the Holy Grail, did our show with Ken Brew,

1953
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 3: and then I went home out to Steve from Charlotte.

1954
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 3: Steve from Charlotte. We haven't mentioned the Steve from Charlotte

1955
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 3: yesterday brought us.

1956
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Speaker 4: It's the nicest bourbon gift I've ever received, without question,

1957
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: maybe one of the nicest gifts I've ever received.

1958
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 3: Twelve year Van Winkle reserves. Unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable, Like we

1959
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 3: looked up yesterday what you could.

1960
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that didn't give it an ask for anything,

1961
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 4: like just he gave it to us while we were

1962
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Speaker 4: on the air. Yeah, didn't even hang around, walked in,

1963
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 4: gave it to us. Couldn't wait around to the break.

1964
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Speaker 3: So Steve and Charlotte, Steve calls your a lot, Steven

1965
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 3: Charlotte that we cannot thank you enough. This is one

1966
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 3: of those where like, I don't know when I'm going

1967
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 3: to open it.

1968
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 4: I was thinking of that today because I'm like, I've

1969
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 4: had all my kids, just went into the Hall of Fame,

1970
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 4: I've been married, you know what, Like when is when

1971
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 4: is the next monumental thing that you would even think

1972
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 4: to open a bottle?

1973
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 3: Like Bengals are not going to win the Super Bowl.

1974
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 3: If you see wins the Big Twelve. Okay, if you

1975
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 3: see wins the Big if.

1976
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 4: They're playing in Dallas for the Big twelve title, I'll

1977
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 4: poor glass.

1978
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 3: So anyway, I went to bed early, and I didn't

1979
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 3: watch any of the Sunday night football game. I woke

1980
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 3: up this morning and I saw the Jade and Daniels,

1981
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 3: who I love watching, has a dislocated left elbit. I've

1982
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 3: seen the replay down. Why I was in the football game,

1983
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 3: Why was he in the game. Now. Connor Or of

1984
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated has a piece out today sort of outlining

1985
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 3: that coaches, for the most part leave their guys in,

1986
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 3: leave their quarterbacks. And that doesn't mean that it was right.

1987
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 3: It was a thirty one point game in the fourth quarter,

1988
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 3: it was over. Dan Quinn's a smart guy. I think

1989
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 3: a good coach who in their right mind would allow

1990
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 3: the franchise to be in the game at that point.

1991
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean you and I you.

1992
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 4: On the broadcast Saturday night, we were talking with Brendan Sorsby.

1993
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 4: Is it time to pull Sworsby? Yes, because you still

1994
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,520
Speaker 4: got so much of your season ahead that Washington team.

1995
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 4: It almost feels like the Bengals of a couple of

1996
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 4: years back, where there's a lot of preseason hype based

1997
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 4: on what they did the year before, and it feels

1998
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 4: like their season's never gotten off the ground. No, and

1999
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 4: now kind of feels like it never will.

2000
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2001
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 4: And on the other side of it, Sam Donald and

2002
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 4: the Seahawks might be dangerous in the NFC.

2003
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 3: Very good defense. Yes, Sam Donald's resurgence continue. They can

2004
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 3: host the playoff game. They don't run the ball at all,

2005
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 3: They do have the twelfth man. They went on the

2006
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 3: road last night. Yeah, they're fun. But for the life

2007
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 3: of me, I cannot understand why Jade Bracles was in

2008
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 3: the football game. Nope, the Patriots are seven and two.

2009
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Pats are good man. You know you talk about like

2010
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 3: games that when the schedule came out we either overlooked

2011
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 3: or chalked up as a win. Yeah, Drake May, we

2012
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 3: just alluded to this, Drake May against the Cincinnati secondary tool.

2013
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 4: He's m saying, at such an unbelievable level, much as

2014
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 4: they love to throw it long, yep, good luck. We

2015
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 4: touched on it yesterday too. With the Patriots. They're winning.

2016
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 4: Some would say maybe ahead of schedule. Yeah, and what

2017
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 4: did they do last week? They moved on from two

2018
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 4: players on their roster to start thinking about, Okay, we're

2019
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 4: gonna nail this down. We're also going to make sure

2020
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 4: we're we are securing ourselves.

2021
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Speaker 3: For the future.

2022
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Doug or Kyle Dugart doesn't have a role here.

2023
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 4: Let's move on from him and get some value in

2024
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 4: return to a desperate team, and then we'll stockpile more picks.

2025
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: They don't have to use those picks on an actual draft.

2026
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 4: You could take those picks and package them with something

2027
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 4: and move to get a player sometime as well. So

2028
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 4: to me, it's the forward thinking of man. I love

2029
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 4: where we're at right now. We're living in the moment,

2030
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 4: but let's also look to the future and think, Okay,

2031
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 4: can we can we acquire picks which can return be

2032
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 4: more players, or maybe package those picks and get a

2033
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 4: proven player. It's just a very impressive way in which

2034
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 4: are going about their their business.

2035
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Speaker 3: Are you ready for the contractually obligated airing of Zach

2036
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 3: Taylor's Monday prescot. I'm going to need a drink any

2037
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 3: twelve year here. The good news is the Bourbon selection

2038
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Speaker 3: here is awesome. We're at Twin Peaks in Westchester. It's

2039
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 3: the Toni and Mo Football Show. The contractually obligated airing

2040
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 3: of Zach Taylor's Hang on to your seats Monday press conference.

2041
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Speaker 3: This should be fun. This is the official home of

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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2044
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Speaker 5: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution, powered by Tope Sheldon on

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Speaker 5: ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2046
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Speaker 5: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.

2047
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2048
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Speaker 7: Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to give

2049
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2051
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Speaker 6: UCCC seeing delayed's.

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Speaker 7: Along northbound seventy one after Ronald Reagan Highway and exitent

2053
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Speaker 7: In through there blocking off the right lane. About a

2054
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 7: thirty minute slow down back from Norwood Lateral. Another accident

2055
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Speaker 7: on way cross road at Hamilton Avenue. Police are there

2056
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Speaker 7: on scene on that ezelic with traffic.

2057
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Speaker 6: This report is.

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Speaker 3: We are at Twin Peaks in Westchester. It's Platonian mol

2059
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 3: Football show on ESPN fifteen thirty. We are back here

2060
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 3: next week. By the way, Bengals line is on as

2061
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 3: soon as we're done at six pm tonight, so you

2062
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 3: can stick around for Lance McAllister and Dave Lapham. We

2063
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 3: have we made the executive decision, so Zach Taylor talked

2064
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 3: at three o'clock this afternoon, and we have a contractual

2065
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 3: obligation to air that press conference, which we don't mind

2066
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 3: at all. It's part of getting a chance to carry

2067
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: the games. We obviously love carrying the games. This is

2068
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 3: the best way to do it. This is I think

2069
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 3: that this is the best way to do it, especially

2070
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: when you know it's going to be a long press conference.

2071
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Speaker 4: But also it can happen and then I don't have

2072
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 4: to say anything else about it, Like I don't have

2073
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 4: to react because I've already read the quotes and I'm

2074
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 4: already angry about enough of it that we can just

2075
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 4: play this and then the show's over and I can

2076
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,799
Speaker 4: just stew on it and then talk about it tomorrow.

2077
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Speaker 3: Right, So we've made the decision to eric in its

2078
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 3: entirety now instead of at three o'clock. Also, when we

2079
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 3: run it at three o'clock, it kind of screws up

2080
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 3: the clock and it gets weird. So here, without any

2081
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 3: further ado, is Zach Taylor. Earlier today, meeting with the

2082
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 3: local professional football media.

2083
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Speaker 2: Taylor press conference. We wrote to you in part by

2084
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Speaker 2: wins Shooler's Cheese Bread Ram Sitters kangaroof and by Bell

2085
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Tara Casino and Bell Tara Park on ESPN fifteen thirty,

2086
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Speaker 2: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 10: All right, go ahead, he came out cleared, didn't have

2088
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 10: to go into concussion protocol, so that we're tele first

2089
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 10: Somaj will be a couple of weeks. We'll get through

2090
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 10: the buy and see where it's at High and Cold Spring,

2091
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 10: and then Stewart we'll see where that ends up. We'll

2092
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 10: get through the buy and see where that's at. Second

2093
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 10: to last drive, so we'll get more information on that,

2094
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 10: see how long it is Zach.

2095
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 11: What's been Duke's assessment of just what's going on defensively

2096
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 11: and what may be able to improve after the bottom.

2097
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 9: I can speak for anybody. I mean for us, it's

2098
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 9: we got to execute better.

2099
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 10: Obviously, we got to get everybody on the same page

2100
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 10: and execute the fundamentals and the details of what we're

2101
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 10: trying to do.

2102
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Speaker 9: And I think everyone's in favor of that, and everyone

2103
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 9: wants to do that.

2104
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 10: We just we haven't done a great job of that,

2105
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 10: especially over the last couple of weeks, and so we're

2106
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 10: all accountable for that. That's what we'll spend our why

2107
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 10: we're doing as coaches, trying to find a way to

2108
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,679
Speaker 10: get everybody to play on the same page all the time.

2109
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 10: We've got a lot of young players that are out

2110
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Speaker 10: there at the same time, and so getting those guys

2111
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Speaker 10: the experience they need together is only going to make

2112
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 10: us better in the future, and so again we're just

2113
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Speaker 10: working through all that.

2114
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 9: Guys are all accountable for it.

2115
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Speaker 10: Everybody wants to play winning defense, winning football, winning team, football,

2116
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 10: winning offense, all that stuff.

2117
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Speaker 9: So that's what we'll continue to try to do.

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Speaker 11: You consider any staff changes for the past hours, No,

2119
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Speaker 11: what gives you the belief.

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Speaker 10: That these these are good football coaches. They've been successful

2121
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 10: everywhere they've been. And so again, we're still in the

2122
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 10: first half of the season. We all know we got

2123
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 10: to play better as a football team. There's been challenges

2124
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 10: or offenses faced of course the season, we worked through them.

2125
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 10: We're playing better for it. There's challenges or defense they're

2126
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Speaker 10: facing right now. I'm confident that we're going to work

2127
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Speaker 10: through it. We're going to play better football and find

2128
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Speaker 10: a way to.

2129
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Speaker 9: Win some games.

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Speaker 12: Follow up on that, can you clarify you don't plan

2131
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Speaker 12: to make any stuff change on the defensive side of

2132
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 12: the ball.

2133
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: No.

2134
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 10: I believe in these guys absolutely, and so we'll continue

2135
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 10: to work through it and find solutions.

2136
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 11: You just elaborate a little bit on what you're seeing behind.

2137
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 12: The scenes from a week two week basis from al

2138
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 12: that gives.

2139
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 10: You, Yeah, working like crazy. He's a great football coach.

2140
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 10: He's doing everything he can to uncover every single stone

2141
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 10: to make us play better. I mean, we're all sick

2142
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 10: for the way that these games are gone him probably

2143
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 10: as much as anybody else on this planet. And so

2144
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 10: I trust in him, trusting his staff that we're going

2145
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 10: to keep working and get all these guys on the

2146
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 10: same page, executing at a high level, and be a

2147
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 10: good defense going forward.

2148
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,799
Speaker 8: So I've been through a lot of trick plays, misdirection screens,

2149
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 8: all that kind of stuff that you, guys, what can

2150
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,799
Speaker 8: the defense do better against those types of plays?

2151
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 10: Well, you got to be Again, they're waiting for a

2152
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 10: first first down, so we got to be better early

2153
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 10: in the drive to take that stuff away from them.

2154
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 10: So when you get into a rhythm, that's when you

2155
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 10: feel most comfortable calling that.

2156
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 9: Kind of stuff.

2157
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 10: Obviously, they felt like they got into rhythm and threw

2158
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 10: a lot at us. So again, it's it was reminiscent

2159
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 10: really the twenty nineteen to forty nine Ers game in

2160
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 10: the Week two they did a lot of that kind

2161
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 10: of stuff too, and so it kind of took me

2162
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:31,719
Speaker 10: back there. A lot of the same stuff you're seeing

2163
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 10: it's a really good staff. I mean, they're as creative

2164
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 10: as it gets, and they really challenge you and put

2165
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 10: you in a lot of buyings. And obviously a lot

2166
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:41,799
Speaker 10: of these things worked for them yesterday.

2167
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 13: That's been the most concerning thing you've seen from the

2168
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 13: defense for the last two weeks.

2169
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 10: I think we just have to be great tacklers and

2170
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 10: just execute a fundamentals is a high level. So there's

2171
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 10: plenty of times where it's ten guys doing exactly what

2172
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 10: we need them to do and one guy outside of

2173
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 10: his laying and giving up a big, big run or

2174
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 10: a big rush. And so again it's just we've got

2175
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 10: a mixture of some veteran guys, we've got a mixture

2176
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 10: of a lot of young guys in there, and they're

2177
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 10: green together, and we've got to get that experience ramped

2178
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 10: up very quickly. I trust that we can do it.

2179
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 10: We're going to continue to work to do it and

2180
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 10: find a way to get some stops.

2181
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 14: You obviously just out for your entire defensive staff. Yeah,

2182
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 14: I know you're not going to give us exactly what

2183
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 14: conversations have been like. But when it comes to to

2184
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 14: do to men or ownership, and they've said it are

2185
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 14: they confident in the defensive side.

2186
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 10: I should not speak for anybody. We have great staff,

2187
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 10: great great conversations. Everyone's on the same page that we

2188
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 10: just want to win and we want to look good

2189
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 10: when we're winning. And so yeah, there's nobody that that

2190
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 10: lacks accountability in any area. We're all just trying to

2191
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 10: do everything we can to get better. But I'm certainly

2192
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 10: not gonna speak for anybody.

2193
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 15: What about looking for different answers, looking for different Yeah.

2194
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, that would that would that would infer

2195
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 10: that we're not looking for different answers. I mean we're

2196
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 10: always spend every single waking moment is trying to find

2197
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 10: a solution to play better and be able to go

2198
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 10: win games.

2199
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 9: And and that's that's what we're going to continue to do.

2200
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 15: Do you think the young players, and you have a

2201
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 15: number of them on the roster e or first, second,

2202
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 15: or thirty of year players feel the way the significance

2203
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 15: of the season slipping away and we.

2204
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 10: Came well, we've talked about it, We've talked about this.

2205
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 10: This can't be a last season for us. This has

2206
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 10: got to be We got to come out of this,

2207
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 10: buy rejuvenated and find a way to win, and winning

2208
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:24,719
Speaker 10: one game certainly propels you, and you've got to build

2209
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 10: some momentum off of that. We had a chance after

2210
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 10: the Pittsburgh game and kind of wasted two opportunities there,

2211
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 10: and how much different things could have been if we

2212
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,799
Speaker 10: had finished these two games out. We'd still have issues

2213
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 10: we have to address, but we'd be in a better position.

2214
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 10: And so we just got to find a way to

2215
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 10: kickstart that and build our own mimentium there. So we

2216
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 10: got players young and old that are accountable. They all

2217
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 10: want to do well. They're all again I say this

2218
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 10: a lot, they're all made of the right stuff. We

2219
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 10: have a good locker room. I know yesterday there is

2220
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 10: frustrated and emotional after a game like that. That's not

2221
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 10: to be unexpected. But we'll just continue to get back

2222
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 10: to work and keep grinding.

2223
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 11: Do you feel like the solutions are still in this building?

2224
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 9: Absolutely? Absolutely, I do.

2225
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 11: When you talk about tackling, I'm sure from day one

2226
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 11: to day two hundred, where.

2227
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 3: We're right now it's wrapping up, you still got guys.

2228
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 9: Just kind of throwing shoulders and not doing How do

2229
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 9: you get guys out there?

2230
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we've we've looked at every solution we

2231
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 10: can in meetings. In a practice, all we can do

2232
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 10: is continue to work at it. And again, there's not

2233
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 10: a magic solution that we're all of a sudden you

2234
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 10: gonna we do it if we could, and so we

2235
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 10: just keep working through it. In practice, we keep detailing,

2236
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 10: keep showing every single clip and it's kind of improve

2237
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 10: You've made changes.

2238
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 14: To the starting lineup throughout the first nine weeks of

2239
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 14: the season. Is that something you would assess over there?

2240
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 10: Well, I think we're always looking at the best way

2241
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 10: to put the best eleven guys out there, and so

2242
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 10: that doesn't change uh now or five weeks ago or

2243
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 10: five weeks from now. So we will always continue to session.

2244
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 10: We're not afraid to make changes we've got to make

2245
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 10: and if we see something that we think will make

2246
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 10: us better and then then we won't hesitate to do

2247
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 10: that much.

2248
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 11: Can you get involved defensively in general and then specifically

2249
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 11: with a bye week.

2250
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 3: Here, find ways to die to that side of the

2251
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 3: ball or do you kind of still leave that to

2252
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 3: out Yeah, more so to them.

2253
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 10: I'll be involved as the head coach, are accountable for everything.

2254
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 10: I'm also not going to pretend that my expertise is

2255
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 10: on the defense side of the ball. I can see

2256
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 10: it from an offense perspective, but you've got probably you know,

2257
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 10: one hundred years of experience on the defense side of

2258
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 10: the ball. They've spent every second of every meeting. Becoming

2259
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 10: a head coach doesn't just make an expert on the

2260
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 10: other side of the ball that you didn't major in

2261
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 10: your life. So there's ways I can help them from

2262
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 10: the offense perspective, see things maybe from a different lens,

2263
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 10: spend a lot of time with allan those coaches this morning,

2264
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 10: will continue to do that during the week, and just

2265
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 10: just help in any way I can. And again, I

2266
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 10: trust those guys. Those guys have been really successful everywhere

2267
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 10: they've been, and we're going to be successful here. And

2268
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 10: again we just we're going to work this week and

2269
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 10: try to find a way to make our team better.

2270
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 12: Was your tone or message any different today than a

2271
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 12: typical Monday.

2272
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 9: You'd have to ask the players out.

2273
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 14: I guess how long are those meetings when you meet

2274
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 14: with now, especially over the past couple of weeks.

2275
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:58,600
Speaker 10: Well, I mean we meet every day, so it's not

2276
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 10: like there's just this meeting that we have after your game.

2277
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 10: It's it's constant communication. And so I think when you're

2278
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 10: doing that and you asked me my question about ownership

2279
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 10: and Duke, we're we need all the time, see them

2280
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 10: all the time, so there's not this this special thing

2281
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 10: that's all of a sudden happening. So again, well we'll

2282
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 10: keep doing a great job communicating and trying to grow

2283
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 10: one of the others.

2284
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 13: One of the conversation has been like that you and

2285
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 13: Duke could have as you guys have kind of the season.

2286
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, we're on the same page. I'm not going

2287
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 10: to get into every conversation I have with every person,

2288
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 10: but we're on the same page. I think we all

2289
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 10: want to do better. We all don't want to be

2290
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 10: at the record we're at right now, so that that

2291
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 10: shouldn't be shocking for anybody to hear that. We have

2292
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 10: high expectations for this season. We did at the start

2293
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 10: of the season, we still do now, and so we

2294
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 10: just got to find a way to again make progress

2295
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 10: and find this one against Pittsford when we come back

2296
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 10: from the buy.

2297
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 13: Talk about him coming when Black was potentially available. If

2298
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 13: you kind of gage your opinion and you kind of

2299
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 13: went with give you know, in your thoughts, How is

2300
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 13: that kind of back and forth kind of evolved in

2301
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 13: the rest over the years, especially close to the deadline

2302
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 13: or when they're when you're looking they're looking at evaluating

2303
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 13: talent to maybe coming building.

2304
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 11: How is that process like between you and you?

2305
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 9: How mean the same as it is in the off season?

2306
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 10: You know, anybody that we need to be aware of,

2307
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 10: if they want our opinion on that, they give it

2308
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 10: to us, and we give the opinion and then and

2309
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 10: then the decision gets made. So it's not I know

2310
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 10: there's a lot of attention at the trade deadline always,

2311
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 10: but our communication is not any different than it is

2312
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 10: from any other week. And so again, if there's something

2313
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 10: that gets brought to our attention, we'll give our two cents.

2314
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 10: We'll watch a player give our two cents, but trust

2315
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 10: our scouting department to make make decisions they make.

2316
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 11: Bet Trey Hendrickson's on the roster aft of the deadline.

2317
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we can win with the players that

2318
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 10: we have, and so just continue to work forward with

2319
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 10: all of them.

2320
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 11: Is there any new information on Burrow and where he

2321
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 11: stands on yesterday you mentioned he's been obvious.

2322
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 10: I don't have new information on it. I know that

2323
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 10: he's getting after it. I know that he's he's doing

2324
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 10: everything he can to get himself ready. And so again

2325
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 10: I'm not going to make any declaration on what that

2326
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 10: timeline is going to be other than the only way

2327
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 10: I'll speak for him is I think he's happy with

2328
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 10: the progress that he's making. And again, there's no timeline

2329
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 10: for when that's going to be. But things are going

2330
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 10: according to plan.

2331
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 11: Such thin margins. Yesterday, you know, one or two plays

2332
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 11: go differently just to play with Orlando on the sports

2333
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 11: have been like after the play, what did he say

2334
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 11: to you?

2335
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 3: And what did you say back to.

2336
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 5: Him on that?

2337
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 9: I don't remember what I said to him.

2338
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 10: I know he's been accountable multiple times yesterday and today

2339
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 10: for what happened to me privately, to the team publicly,

2340
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 10: and so again it's something that we can't go from

2341
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 10: a person goal in the five to second goal in

2342
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 10: the twenty. That's four points off the board there. We

2343
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 10: we left a lot of points on the board yesterday.

2344
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 10: It was so again we're talking a lot about the

2345
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 10: defense in here, but offensively, I was really disappointed that

2346
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 10: we didn't score more points and that's frustrating that you know,

2347
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Speaker 10: when we have the opportunity to put more points on

2348
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 10: the board and not execute, could have found a way

2349
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 10: to win it that way, you know, and then and

2350
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 10: then fix the problems that we're having.

2351
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 9: But we just seeing get it done.

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01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 8: You mentioned yesterday he wanted to reflect on the intentional

2353
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 8: ground him then the fourth down process as the field

2354
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 8: goal kind of was your takeaway.

2355
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 10: As he talked, Yeah, we're right there on the fringe

2356
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 10: of where he wanted to be for the field goal.

2357
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 10: You're kind of making a decision at that point. Are

2358
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 10: you comfortable going down four at that point in the

2359
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 10: game with the score of the way it was him

2360
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 10: getting stop and find a way to go score And

2361
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 10: I thought that in the split second that that's where

2362
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 10: we could go. You know, I just ended up being

2363
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 10: a really tough decision that either way, you know, the

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01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 10: fourth and long or the field goal, the percentages are

2365
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 10: probably very similar on how it's going to play out,

2366
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 10: probably more so better off kicking the field goal than

2367
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 10: converting on the fourth and long. So again, it's there's

2368
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 10: an imperfect answer there that I think depending on game,

2369
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 10: whether all that things could maybe change a little bit,

2370
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 10: could maybe make a different decision in a different game

2371
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 10: and come back to the decision I made. So again,

2372
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 10: it's just there wasn't a great solution there on which

2373
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 10: way to go with that.

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01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 15: From the outside, sack, a lot of people wonder why

2375
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 15: losing five of six the way the last two games

2376
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 15: have ended, Why don't you make changes?

2377
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 9: Is the status quo acceptable?

2378
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 15: And people wonder on the outside, why do you feel

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01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 15: that you do have the solutions in the building make

2380
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 15: any change?

2381
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 9: Why is that because I've been through this situation before.

2382
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 10: We've been through this situation many years and come out

2383
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 10: the other side playing for championships, went in divisions by

2384
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 10: sticking with what we believe in and not doing what

2385
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 10: everybody wants you to do. By sticking with it, I'm

2386
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 10: thankful that in twenty twenty they didn't kick me out

2387
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 10: of here, so we really to go to the super

2388
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 10: Bowl the next year. And so again, I believe in

2389
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 10: the people that we've hired. I sit in there, I

2390
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 10: watch these guys coach. I know what they're made of.

2391
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 10: I know where we can continue to grow. And so

2392
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 10: when you believe in people, you don't just make a

2393
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 10: gut reaction from what people want to see that aren't

2394
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 10: necessarily a part of it.

2395
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 9: I understand the frustration.

2396
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 3: I get it.

2397
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 10: I'd be frustrated too if I was outside the building.

2398
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 10: We're going to get it fixed, We're going to continue

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Speaker 10: to work it. I trust every coach we got in

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01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 10: this building to get it done, or else they wouldn't

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01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 10: be here, we wouldn't hire them in the first place.

2402
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 10: And so again I got firm belief that we can

2403
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 10: get this done, and we can do with the players

2404
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 10: we have and find a way to get some wins.

2405
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 10: And again we just there's some things we got to

2406
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 10: clean up, we got to do better. There's a side

2407
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 10: of that too, where we got to find ways to

2408
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 10: push the right buttons for these guys to get them

2409
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 10: exactly to do it how we want to do it.

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 9: But I trust that we can get that done.

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01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 11: Thought of putting Browning out for the hail Mary at

2412
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 11: the end, knowing he's the shoulder, how far it was,

2413
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 11: I don't know.

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01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 3: If that's something you think about.

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01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, do that maybe there there are times in my

2416
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 9: life where that has happened. If you if you've got

2417
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 9: a guy.

2418
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 10: Who's who's that's his redeeming to trade is he's got

2419
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 10: a big, powerful arm can kind of come cold off

2420
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 10: the sideline.

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01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 9: Joe.

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01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 10: Joe is our best option there, and it's not fair

2423
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 10: to Jake to put them out there cold like that

2424
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 10: and try to launch one out.

2425
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 3: There the defensive line.

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01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 14: How you know, when you talk about needing changes and

2427
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 14: what you try to make guys play better, when guys

2428
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 14: just are not witting up front, how does it get better?

2429
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 11: How does it get better when guys are getting moved

2430
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 11: and just not winning enough.

2431
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 10: I mean, they're still coaching that's involved in that, you know,

2432
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 10: So you see Thos not winning. There's still technique things

2433
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 10: that we can prove on. There's rush lanes we can

2434
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 10: do a better job of sometimes to allow other people

2435
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 10: to win too.

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02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 9: It's you're not.

2437
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 10: Always gonna win every single one on If you did,

2438
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 10: you'd be an all pro player and it would be great.

2439
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 9: We have plenty of them.

2440
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:12,560
Speaker 10: But it's also just about sometimes I'm from Russians. Four

2441
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 10: guys doing exactly the way they're supposed to do it,

2442
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 10: not three, not three and a half, and all of

2443
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 10: a sudden, the one guy gets out of his lane,

2444
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 10: and now Caleb Williams is out the door. You know,

2445
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 10: there was a little bit of that yesterday, and so

2446
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 10: again that's four guys on all snaps when we're only

2447
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 10: rushing four doing exactly the way they're supposed to do it,

2448
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 10: and allowing the coverage on the back end to match

2449
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 10: it and keep them trapped in the pocket and.

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02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 9: I'll let him get out.

2451
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 10: And so again, those are easy things to clean up,

2452
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 10: very easy that guys can be accountable for that We've

2453
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 10: pointed out. It's not the same guy every time, you know,

2454
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 10: it can be one guy doing it in a one

2455
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 10: snap and another guy doing another snap. And part of

2456
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 10: a great defense is everybody just doing it the way

2457
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 10: it's supposed to be down an every single snap and

2458
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 10: we're going to get there.

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Speaker 12: Do you feel there is currently enough talent on the

2460
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 12: defensive side of the ball to compete at a championship

2461
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 12: level in the list you.

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Speaker 16: Mentioned yesterday, Zach, how much you have to fight every

2463
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 16: day to maintain your culture, not that just become an

2464
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 16: offense defense thing. Chase Brown unloaded some frustration yesterday publicly.

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Speaker 16: Do you want players to have the freedom to vent

2466
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 16: or do you have to talk to not.

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Speaker 10: If you're not doing everything you can on your own,

2468
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 10: you know, and I've pointed that out with Chase, you know,

2469
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 10: it's there's two big plays that that we could have

2470
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Speaker 10: done better that would have led to points.

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Speaker 9: And so I think I liked Jamar a little bit better.

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Speaker 9: I can tell Jamar is.

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Speaker 10: Frustrated, but he didn't want guys coming at him if

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Speaker 10: he's had a poor performance or something that he was

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Speaker 10: disappointed in. So I trust that that's a one time

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Speaker 10: thing and we'll learn from that. That's not how we

2477
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 10: want to react. And one of our best players, one

2478
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:40,839
Speaker 10: of our highest character players, I think, in the moment's frustration,

2479
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:42,960
Speaker 10: said that and I don't.

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Speaker 9: Expect that time again.

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02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 11: Chase had to drop what was not there.

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Speaker 17: Miscommunication going back to the young guys, and Andre's not

2483
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 17: a rookie Yoshivas, but he was going through some struggles

2484
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 17: seemed to kind of come out of it on the

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Speaker 17: other side yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Is that is that kind of validate?

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Speaker 9: That's that with it at I mean, that's just part

2488
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 9: of what we deal with, you know.

2489
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:07,040
Speaker 10: It's it's not just overreacting to a couple of bad

2490
02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 10: moments that that are frustrating. We've seen the body of

2491
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 10: work that he's put in to get to the position

2492
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 10: he's in, and sometimes guys don't get enough credit for

2493
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 10: the plays that they've made leading up to that point,

2494
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 10: and it's easy to point out the errors that they've

2495
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 10: made and and you know the disappointing place. And so

2496
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 10: again for us as coaches, it's just evaluating the full

2497
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,280
Speaker 10: body of work. And they've gained that trust. He's great,

2498
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 10: he's put that credit in the bank, and I feel

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Speaker 10: really good about where he's at, knowing that he's going

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02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 10: to pull through some tough spots. And so again it's

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02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 10: none of our coaches or players are perfect. We're all

2502
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 10: going to have moments where we could have done better.

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02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 10: I've got plenty of players. So it wasn't surprising at

2504
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 10: all to see Yoshi respond the way he did, because

2505
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 10: that's just he doesn't He doesn't overreact.

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02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:51,240
Speaker 9: I don't believe to the good and the bad. He

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02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 9: just keeps working.

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Speaker 10: And when you got enough guys like him and like

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02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 10: Chase Brown, like I know I just talked about you.

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02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 10: I love Chase to death, and that's that's part of

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02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 10: my conversation with him is this is a little bit

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02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 10: outside of you. And so again, just believing in those

2513
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 10: guys and continue to stick with them, and we're going

2514
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 10: to see great things from them like you saw from

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02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 10: those guys yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This has been the Zach Taylor Preast Conference on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, the official home of bus Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Right there you go, Zach Taylor chatting. Sorry, Tony, you

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Speaker 3: don't have any time, you have any old at any time.

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Speaker 3: I can't comment on that. You'll have to wait till

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Speaker 3: tomorrow at noon. Okay, probably best for everybody at this point.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back here a week from today.

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Speaker 3: week show. The bye week show is next week. Tony

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Speaker 3: is back for Sincy three to sixty at noon tomorrow.

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