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Speaker 1: Seegers for Broncos warm Up. We'll see how much you

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Speaker 3: Opening line, which is always fun, kind of go over

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Speaker 1: We'll bring the energy. We'll free the energy. Five six

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Speaker 1: Somebody send us a listener email here, Charles send us

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Speaker 2: All right, you're ready for this.

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Speaker 1: With all the game films available, opposing teams can break

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Speaker 1: down Bonux passing attempts into completion rates for straight dropbacks,

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Speaker 3: Him going to his left, and I see him having success.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him step up in the pocket and run

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Speaker 3: First read in a lot of ways, but Bo's early

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Speaker 2: the film I'm studying is not game film. But oh

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Speaker 2: No, I won't. I can't.

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Speaker 1: But that's a bit of the culture, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Draft leaders, you draft captains. Culture is just the standard, right.

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Speaker 3: if you if you swap out the word standard with culture,

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Speaker 2: Team is bought into that vision.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, you know, if I'm the wet blanket,

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Speaker 3: an acknowledgement for myself. The Broncos of practice report pretty

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Speaker 3: I think anybody that honestly, the Broncos, anybody, you've had

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Speaker 1: I think making the case that as he puts Texas

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Speaker 2: As they should. I was so obnoxious people dunking on

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Speaker 3: Legitimately, Yeah, in Arch would be the number one quarterback

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Speaker 3: every play and it doesn't matter what you do because

439
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Speaker 3: there's solution built in every play. Okay, So I don't

440
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Speaker 3: think they view it that way. The Chargers, they're not

441
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Speaker 3: gonna show anything anyway. But and Jim Harball, I don't

442
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Speaker 3: think he's worried about He's you know.

443
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Speaker 2: I mean, he has one.

444
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Speaker 3: Career loss to Sean Tait and it was the last

445
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Speaker 3: second field goal back when it was the Saints and

446
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Speaker 3: the Niners. I think Harball thinks he's got a pretty

447
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,720
Speaker 3: good beat on what Sean Payton does. And if they

448
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 3: come back around in a couple of weeks and have

449
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Speaker 3: to play here, I think they feel confident.

450
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Speaker 2: I think both sides feel confident what they do well.

451
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Speaker 1: The last thing here before we listen to some sound,

452
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Patriots situation. So

453
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Speaker 1: you have the Christian Barmore stuff that came out today,

454
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Speaker 1: you have the Sewan dig stuff that came out yesterday.

455
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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, when he spoke with the media more or

456
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Speaker 1: less said, you know, we got to wait for all

457
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Speaker 1: the information, the type of thing they're preparing for this game,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, so on and so forth.

459
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Speaker 2: Is there anything in the immediate because.

460
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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, I guess brought up the exemption list potentially

461
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Speaker 1: for Stefan Diggs in a report today. So is there

462
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Speaker 1: anything in the intermediate time frame that might impact.

463
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Speaker 3: Something with the patriots with these I don't believe so,

464
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Speaker 3: And I you know, I've talked to Ian a little bit.

465
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Speaker 2: I don't believe so.

466
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Stefandig's lawyers are pushing for this

467
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Speaker 3: to be a March and with the court and everything else,

468
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to I think they're going to

469
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Speaker 3: get it that this this is not going to be

470
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Speaker 3: adjudicated till March.

471
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Speaker 2: You can't do it till all the facts are in

472
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.

473
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Speaker 3: Obviously, if you look hard enough, you can find the

474
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Speaker 3: text messages between Stefan and and the UH person, the accuser,

475
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Speaker 3: and those are not very flottering for Stefan.

476
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Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. Now. Obviously those could

477
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Speaker 2: be edited.

478
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Speaker 3: She could have deleted some of her own responses in

479
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Speaker 3: that particular situation. But I will say what is out

480
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Speaker 3: there publicly. Yeah, I know, I can't see me rolling

481
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Speaker 3: my eyes on the on the radio. I'm trying to

482
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Speaker 3: tap danswer. Allegedly portions of it so I don't think

483
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Speaker 3: it's gonna affect him the playots. I think Broncos fans

484
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Speaker 3: are wish casting that he's going to be. Oh, I'm

485
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Speaker 3: not sure. I'm saying Broncos because I've seen some Broncos

486
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Speaker 3: fans reaction. I'm like, you guys are wish casting here.

487
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Speaker 3: Like at the end of the day, they're not really gonna,

488
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Speaker 3: you know, put them on the exemple list unless something

489
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Speaker 3: earth showering comes out and there's not anything in that regard.

490
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Speaker 1: No, I it doesn't feel like and I was talking

491
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Speaker 1: with with uh with Zach earlier about this, it's just

492
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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like you're instead of pressing.

493
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Speaker 2: And then if you're the NFL, if you're Roger Goodell,

494
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Speaker 2: he was.

495
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Speaker 3: Just wildly different than when Sheriff Rodge came into the NFL. Right,

496
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: remember when it used to be I do part of

497
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Speaker 3: this part of the thing, Like he almost can't do

498
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff because of the new CBA

499
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Speaker 3: where they got rid of his arbitrary powers or did

500
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Speaker 3: I say the new CB A CBA two cbas ago

501
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Speaker 3: where they got rid of his arbitrary powers of I

502
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Speaker 3: can Willy Nelly suspend you for whatever, and just you know,

503
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: make stuff up and you're you're suspended, which you know

504
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: he came in the league one back when they like

505
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Speaker 3: the Chris Henry stuff and you know the Bengals back.

506
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Speaker 2: Then and all that.

507
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Speaker 3: That just we live in a different era now and

508
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Speaker 3: now you have to have you basically have to have

509
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Speaker 3: a guilty verdict or a no contest plea in order

510
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Speaker 3: for the commissioner to be able to do that.

511
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Speaker 2: Okay, all, are you ready to listen to some sound sure?

512
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: In this last weekend? Is all right?

513
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Speaker 1: We started with the Baltimore Ravens getting an important win.

514
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the AFC North.

515
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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?

516
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Speaker 3: There?

517
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Speaker 2: Almost left to Derreck Henry. Ricard a big block and

518
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: he cuts it up the left side. It spreads easily

519
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: into the end zone. Touchdowns. Rick Henry twenty six yards.

520
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: He has broken two hundred.

521
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Speaker 3: On the day.

522
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Speaker 2: He has tied his career high with fortds.

523
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Speaker 3: Height is forty to twenty four on Derrick Henry day and.

524
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Speaker 1: Lan Bofield John Sadak with Westwood one not Derrick Henry

525
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Speaker 1: is man.

526
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Speaker 2: He is unbelievable when he gets going.

527
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Speaker 3: He had over alost fifteen hundred rushing yards of the season.

528
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Speaker 2: Like the Baltimore Ravens have.

529
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Speaker 3: Not been a very good team, He's still got to

530
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Speaker 3: fifteen hundred rushing yards in the sixteen touchdowns and a

531
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Speaker 3: lot of it coming here late. Baltimore Ravens are favored

532
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Speaker 3: in this game ben the Steelers losing to the Browns,

533
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Speaker 3: the Ravens winning over the weekend.

534
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Speaker 2: And suddenly in a winner take all.

535
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Speaker 3: This really is a winner take all moment Sunday layoff game.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because because.

537
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Speaker 1: The other one with between the Panthers and Bucks is

538
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Speaker 1: actually weird, Like it's a Falcons win.

539
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, you know, if the Falcons win that game,

540
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: it's to be the Panthers.

541
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Speaker 2: Either way, So so weird.

542
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's super so kind of a bummer, like because

543
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: we love the drama.

544
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: So but this one, winner take all, what do you got?

545
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: I'm going with Pittsburgh reluctantly because they're home, because they're home,

546
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: and the Ravens have some a lot of internal stuff

547
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: going on right now. I tried to hint at this

548
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, I talked about in the

549
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Speaker 3: Insider segment with Dave Logan.

550
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Speaker 2: This situation is coming to a head with Lamar and Harball,

551
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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure.

552
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: Who's gonna lose here, but there's a lot of internal

553
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Speaker 3: stuff going on there that they're trying to work their

554
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Speaker 3: way past and just have have not had a great job.

555
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Speaker 2: Doing Henry Eric Henry always goes better at the end

556
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Speaker 2: of the year. Everybody else is banged up, and he's like, yeah.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm not, so I'm gonna get better.

558
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Speaker 3: It's I'm novacaine. Just get a time out of work,

559
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Speaker 3: you know. So Derek Harry always gets better as the

560
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Speaker 3: year wears on, just because everybody else wears down and.

561
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Speaker 2: He's built like a you know what doesn't But.

562
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Speaker 1: You think the Pittsburgh Shios win this game, I'm gonna

563
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Speaker 1: go with Steelers in this one. Yeah, either coach still

564
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Speaker 1: with their team or both.

565
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Speaker 2: I'm going to lean towards Tom and still with the Steelers.

566
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: Maybe one more year.

567
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Speaker 3: Okay, something's going to happen in Baltimore. Harball or Lamar

568
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: won't be there and I'll leave it at that.

569
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. That's that would be a center.

570
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Speaker 3: Mike hat moved up to the front office in a

571
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Speaker 3: consulting role and doing air quotes in studio.

572
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Speaker 2: You can't see it. Lamar could be traded. One of

573
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Speaker 2: those guys won't be there next year.

574
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Speaker 1: We speaking of quarterbacks that we're gonna have our eye on,

575
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Speaker 1: and wonder if he's gonna be somewhere else. Joe Burrow

576
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: took down your Arizona Cardinals in.

577
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Speaker 2: The eight yard line. Shotgun snap, Burrow fires toward the

578
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Speaker 2: end zone. Hot hot, slam at Jamar Chase.

579
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Speaker 5: He's got his second touchdown catch of the day, and

580
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Speaker 5: he does a jungle jump into the stands to celebrate.

581
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Speaker 3: What we can call it that Dan Forth Dave laugh

582
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Speaker 3: on me since he's ESPN fifteen thirty of the Biggles

583
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Speaker 3: Radio Network on the call.

584
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Speaker 2: So he took down your Arizona Cardinals. First of all,

585
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gan and then where are we at? Say? And

586
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: then the Cardinal has been soft tanking? Okay?

587
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: He by the way, the Arizona Cardinals who had ridiculous

588
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: injuries all year.

589
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: He had the.

590
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Speaker 3: Twelfth toughest schedule in NFL history. That division's really like

591
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: DVOA this year. I mean it's a really good division.

592
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: And then they you know, all the fourth place teams

593
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: got good, but you're not. But you're not competitive in

594
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: a very good division. They were competitive until the injuries started.

595
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: You know, they were losing games, but in fact they

596
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Speaker 3: had that run of like six games where they lost

597
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: the ball by like a point. Yeah, and then you know,

598
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: the injuries, the wheels fell off, and that that's sort

599
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: of what happens, especially when you're a rebuilding team that

600
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Speaker 3: doesn't have the depth at all to do that. So

601
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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor's he back, Yeah, probably, and that's only because

602
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Cincinnati's cheap and they signed him to a deal quietly

603
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: that you know, nobody's talked about.

604
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's he back. Okay, Burrows back.

605
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Speaker 1: By the way, It was an interesting press conference today

606
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Speaker 1: because he was asked Miles Garrett looking for the record,

607
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Speaker 1: and he was asked about whether or not that's gonna be.

608
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Speaker 2: Who knows? You saw that?

609
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: Huh yeah.

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like, oh boy, you are kind of

611
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Speaker 2: setting this thing up, aren't you. Yeah, you're gonna be.

612
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna be. Farve He's like, sometimes you just take

613
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: a sack. It's it's the.

614
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Best play, yeah to do. Were like, I'm like, oh boy, yeah,

615
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's.

616
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Speaker 3: So funny because we had dreat I was talking to

617
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Speaker 3: Great about it yesterday and he was like, no way,

618
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati would never allow that.

619
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Speaker 2: And then you hear Joe Burrow being like, maybe it happens.

620
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I believe that he would. I think

621
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Speaker 2: it's gonna happen.

622
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like against the Browns, you would

623
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Speaker 3: think they would never And I think Joe Burrow is

624
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: setting himself up to.

625
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Speaker 2: Be the villain. I think he is too. One hundred percent.

626
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: I will say envision it should were Sanders the future

627
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: in Cleveland.

628
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: Throw looking right at the ball, wafting right, he's got

629
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Speaker 3: fitted who catches at the.

630
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Speaker 2: Two and rolls in touchdod Oh what a catch.

631
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: Harold Fannon looked up bounding in the rain, landed on

632
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: his back and rolled untouched into the end zone.

633
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: And all things being an equal, Cleveland's had a pretty good.

634
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: Draft class, like like, well, Dylan Gabriel stunk but well,

635
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: but but.

636
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: Guggins go ahead. Fannin very good. Uh was a sweatnger

637
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: on defense, very very good, so.

638
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: Decent draft class ye, and was the I don't think

639
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: he's defense and is only one. By the way, there

640
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: was fifty seven percent completion percentage on the season He's

641
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: only averaging just over six and a half in a

642
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: tempt He gets first seven touchdowns to ten interceptions. He's

643
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: been sacked seventeen times for one hundred and thirty five

644
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: yard loss in seven games.

645
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he's the future.

646
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that somebody won't take throw the

647
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: dice on him. I just don't think he's the you know,

648
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: the undisputed future in Cleveland at all. Fan base likes him, sure,

649
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: and again they bring Watson, You punt on, You punt

650
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: on Watson, you punt on?

651
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Are they moving on from Watson? Well, he'll never start

652
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: a game for the Browns.

653
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean unless he's just the only body available, he

654
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: won't start a game for them. They're just like it's

655
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: just cheaper for them to hang onto that contract that way.

656
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: Could you see the Browns holding on to should or

657
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: over Dylan Gabriel? No, absolutely, I could you punk.

658
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna put one of the two though, this makes sense,

659
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: Key Bolts, right, You're gonna put one of the two,

660
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: try to recoups some draft capital and go from there.

661
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: But you know, beyond that, and neither one of those guys,

662
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: I mean, unless you just bring in a coach is

663
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: just sold on Shador, which, by the way, they're moving

664
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: on to Stefanski, so Barry will be there. But that

665
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: was gonna be my next question from now I've I've

666
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: read that Stefanski might have some interest around the league.

667
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: You'll absolutely have an OC job the next day.

668
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Well, there's maybe interest that he could just slide into

669
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: another head coaching job.

670
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: They'll get an OC job.

671
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Okay, he won't get a head coaching job beside, he

672
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: could wind up as the OC in Arizona. By the way, Well,

673
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: part of what at least I've read is because it's

674
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: a relatively light it.

675
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Is not a great aunch class from the offensive side.

676
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: Koobiak is really kind of the crown jewel on that one,

677
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: and he is very tied to Tampa at this point,

678
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: which is not admitting they're moving on from bowls.

679
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see. You think they're gonna move on for balls.

680
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I mean, that's to be fair, I don't know I would,

681
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: and I think all indicators are telling me internally you know, yes.

682
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: But then you've got people coming out.

683
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: And talking about the buyout that they've got there, and

684
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: the glaciers and the weirdest people when it comes to

685
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: doing stuff like that.

686
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: And then Bruce arians carries a lot of weight.

687
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: And I was a tampaang guy, and that is his guy,

688
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: and he carries a lot of weight in that organization

689
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: right now.

690
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: So now we'll speaking of that. Miami getting a win.

691
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: Holy cow, third, Hey yours now very by weee thirty

692
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 6: twenty ten five cuts down the rookie from Missouri got

693
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: open yours, fond.

694
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Of yours to weisee. That's a that's a week seventeen.

695
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Every time I hear we used, I think Convince Vaughan

696
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: from Uh be Cool.

697
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: That's uh doing at the rock e weeezy the WBGGWI

698
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: in z Miami Dolphins radio network on the calls.

699
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: So the Miami Dolphins beating the Buccaneers.

700
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers have cratered almost in line with the Colts

701
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: and how bad they've created.

702
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: But yes, I wanted to ask you about Mike McDaniel

703
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: and of course Todd Bowles. What is what's the lays

704
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniels.

705
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: I think Mike's coaches way back into his job. Wow.

706
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 3: I meaning as it is as shocking as it is

707
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: to say, I believe that that that Mike McDaniel has

708
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: miraculously coached his way back into his job. And they've

709
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: won uh what five of our last seven. I think

710
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 3: only losses were to the Bengals they got blown out

711
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: there and the Steelers.

712
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: But they beat the Bucks. I mean, they beat the Jets,

713
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: who cares.

714
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Uh, they beat the Saints, who have been competitive with everybody.

715
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: They beat the Commanders, you know, back when I think

716
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: Jayden's still around at that point one hundred percent of that.

717
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: They beat the Bills, they blew them out. You know,

718
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: they've won quite a few since. Uh since that that

719
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: October I think it was the Chargers of Browns they

720
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: lost back to back and.

721
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: Then they've won game since then. I want to say

722
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: they're like six and three.

723
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: I'd have to have to a mcdoald check, but they

724
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: I think three since a one and six starts. Yeah,

725
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: and I think I think McDaniel, since the firing of

726
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: Chris Greer, has kind of coached his way back into

727
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: his job. Remarkable. Well, good for Mike be daniel. We

728
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: all like Mike McDaniel.

729
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah here from Denner GRAVI. But but I remember

730
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: you saying at the beginning of the year that he

731
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: has band.

732
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: I think he got some cover with the somehow getting

733
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Chris Greer out of there, who's spectacularly bad, getting him

734
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: out of there. I think he got some cover off

735
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 3: that with going six and three and saying, look, let

736
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: me get my guy in here that I can work with,

737
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: and maybe you get one more round.

738
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: What do they think they do a quarterback? I mean,

739
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: Quinn yours is kind of his guy at this point.

740
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: Wow, it will be gone, that's for sure, we know that,

741
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: But Quinn Your's kind of hiss guy at this point.

742
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what else you what else would you do?

743
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: The available quarterbacks in this class are not going to

744
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: be great? Uh where they're picking anyway? Yeah, well the

745
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: quarterbacks aren't. This isn't a great class anyway. I mean

746
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: even the best guy here would be QB seven and

747
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: bow Nix's draft you talk in free agency doesn't really

748
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 3: have a lot to it either, you know. I mean

749
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: your options are two of who you get rid of Kyler?

750
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: You're bringing him in with that offense, I don't think so.

751
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: He just already didn't work in that offense, so you're

752
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: you're probably sticking with what you got.

753
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: The Giants with a resounding win over the Raiders for

754
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: the first overall pick. It comes to the near side.

755
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Banks fields it at the fop. He's to the twenty thirty.

756
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: There goes Banks hold on the left.

757
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: He's a Crushman field of foot foot race the f

758
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: Banks for the twenty ten five touchdown.

759
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Giants Bob Papa wfa N Giants Radio Network, gonna just

760
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: say for the game for the number one overall pick,

761
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: and the Raiders made a pretty know what direction they're headed,

762
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: and the Giants made a pretty well known what direction

763
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: they're headed, which is not the first pick, which is hilarious,

764
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: by the way, and back to back years the Giants

765
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: with an opportunity to get the first overall pick. Last

766
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: year is Drew Locke with the five touchdown. But and

767
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: then this year it's like, all right, you're on the

768
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: road against the Raiders. The Raiders are terrible. You're not

769
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: a very good team either, and then you pull out

770
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: all the stops and you blow them out. So the

771
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: Giants are not going to have the number overall pick.

772
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: The Raiders are playing the Chiefs this week, so I guess,

773
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a scenario where the Chiefs lose

774
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: this game, but probably not. Raiders are gonna have the

775
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: first overall pick. Is that gonna be for Fernando Mendozo.

776
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure on that either.

777
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, the two top quarterbacks are three

778
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in this class. If you assume Ty Simpson comes out,

779
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: which is not set in stone, More be coming out.

780
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: It's not set in stone. There are people that really

781
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: like More and people that really don't. It's very split

782
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: on him. And then the kind of the temperature on

783
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: Mendoza is just kind of meh, you know, like he's

784
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: kind of just a guy.

785
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be a starter in the league, but

786
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: what are you getting here?

787
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: You know, you really spend a number one overall pick

788
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: on a guy like Andy Dalton or you know whatever

789
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: that that kind of caliber of quarterbacks.

790
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: You need a quarterback?

791
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you could you could go get Kyler,

792
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: you know, you could go get Kyler as a bridge

793
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: until you find the guy as you continue to put

794
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: pieces around him.

795
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: Is the question is Pete Carroll gonna be there? Which

796
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he is.

797
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be one of done. So you know,

798
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of questions around that. Mendoza. I mean,

799
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be a whole lot of people clamoring

800
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: to get him there at the top.

801
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: If he's the guy, he's the guy, but it's you know.

802
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: He grades well below guys like cam Ward or bow

803
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: Nix or whatever else. The Knicks was the six quarterback

804
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: in his own class.

805
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: All right, last one here the Seattle Seahawks.

806
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, after we hear this highlight,

807
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: who's the best team in the NFC West?

808
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: First and ten Now gets the ball at the seventeen.

809
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: If Caroline Walker back in play fake to him, Sam

810
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: gets hit as he throws ball, it's caught in your

811
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: side harder five touchdown Payhawks.

812
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: That's Steve Rabel, Seahawks broadcasting KR. The kind of a

813
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: slow starting game for Seattle.

814
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: They were tied three all, but the Panthers at halftime

815
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I mean, I know both these

816
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: teams technically need this game, but it feels like the

817
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: Seahawks you might need a little bit more because they're

818
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: trying to get the one seed. And then they just

819
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: blew him out the second half twenty four to seven,

820
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: and those seven points came kind of late Seahawks blew

821
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: him out twenty seve the ten.

822
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Who's the best team in the NFC West.

823
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: Either Seattle or LA not the forty nine ers, who,

824
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: by the way, have a path.

825
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers who have a path.

826
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: I think that the Rams or the Seahawks are there

827
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: are the teams to be Who's.

828
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: Going to represent the NFC and we know the Broncos

829
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: are going to be in the Super Bowl, who's going

830
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: to represent the NFC?

831
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: Well in that case, since we know that the Seahawks

832
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: are the Rams, Okay, I do believe it. It just

833
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: depends so Stafford has one of his Stafford you know games,

834
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: or if Darnold has one of his you know, dope games.

835
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: That's that's really what it is.

836
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: Both Rockety, both these teams that yeah, he's playing great,

837
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: but I don't. I'm not buying the Niners, just not.

838
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm just not relative to those guys. I'll believe you

839
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: want to see it, he who is dead last in

840
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: the NFL and sacks as a team in allowing or

841
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: acquiring acquiring the Raiders the forty nine ers.

842
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense.

843
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: Do you know how you want to guess how how low,

844
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: how low numbers, the Broncs of sixty four.

845
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably in the with eighteen sack range eighteen there exactly.

846
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: There you go, eight sack. The Brothers have sixty four.

847
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: They're number one and dead last in the NFL's.

848
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers with eighteam.

849
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: There are only two teams in the NFC that are

850
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: above one hundred net points on the season, and it

851
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: is the Rams and the Seahawks, so well above that.

852
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: You look at the rest of the field in the playoffs,

853
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: there you got the Bears that are at twenty nine

854
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: net points, Phillies at sixty one, the Niners at seventy six,

855
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 3: green Bay at forty four, Carolyn negative sixty seven.

856
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's it, really is, it really is.

857
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean there's only three teams in the AFC that

858
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: have above one hundred net points and that's Houston, Jackson

859
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: Millan in New England.

860
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: Remarkable.

861
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: All right, there's there a look around the NFL gunner

862
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: NFL insider bitch binal Bright to give us some of

863
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: the latest information from around the league. I mean, the

864
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Monday after the season finale is coming up here, right,

865
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: I Mean, that's what happens is Black Monday for a reason.

866
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna see some fires and stuff. I think Joe

867
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: Shane is safe. I think John Gannon is safe, and

868
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: I think I think Mike McDaniel might wind up be insie.

869
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard, that's a maybe. Okay, I think a new owner.

870
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: I do think Styching is safe. Yeah, but I can't.

871
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't bet that well, no, no, I.

872
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: Mean, I don't bet any of this, but I that's

873
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: the one that I keep hearing kind of back and

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Speaker 1: forth on. It feels like Steichen should get another run

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Speaker 1: at this thing. But Chris Ballad has had a chance

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Speaker 1: to build rosters over and over and over again. And

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Speaker 1: just as much as we always say there's talent on

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Speaker 1: that team, they never produce.

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Speaker 2: Yea, they and they collapse. They collapse over and.

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Speaker 1: Over again, and most of the time, whether injury or otherwise,

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Speaker 1: it's that they collapse.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're known for.

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Speaker 3: We'll see they get Daniel Jones back next year, all

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So I tend to believe they'll

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Speaker 3: go with the continuity, but who knows. It's a new

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Speaker 3: ownership with the daughter the air. We'll see, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we come back.

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Speaker 3: We're here for bowt Nick's get a little more preview

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Speaker 3: of the Broncos and Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, everybody. Ryan's been beIN albright' kwa