WEBVTT - 11-19-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.520 Don't want to be an a Manican idiot. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.120 That's a loan on seven hundred WLW. The question should 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.680 teenagers remain amateurs? Well, every adult around them profits from 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.280 their performance on the field, on the court, wherever it 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.759 might be. That's a question Ohio School principles are asking 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.360 themselves this week. They are voting as we speak, over 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.319 the course of this week on what the Ohio Name, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.200 Image and Likeness policy will be. The old nil. We 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.000 are only one of six states without a policy, and 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.520 so I mean it's coming to a head right now, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.320 right the pimple's gonna pop on that. Speaking of pimples, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.320 my boy Tom Gamble, the CEO of In Game Sports. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.640 They produce their Reds High School Showcase Skyline Chili Crosstown 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.080 Showdown half of the Two Angry Guys back in the day, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.360 my former colleague. And also I will point out commissioner 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.560 of the GCL South, which features Tomorrow. I keep saying Tomorrow. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.680 I know I want it to be Friday already like 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.720 everyone else's Friday. It's Elder Saint X at pay Court. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.880 Twenty thousand tickets will go on sale at ten am, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.200 less than an hour from now. As a matter of fact, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.720 only online. You can only get that at THEHSA website, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.840 and I'd expect those twenty thousand to go pretty fast. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.880 Tom Gamble, that's a hell of a setup. Welcome back. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.560 How are you, Sloane? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:13.320 Doing great? 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.960 Yeah, appreciate the opportunity, and you know why not, Why 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.640 shouldn't teenagers and high school athletes. But it's it's very tricky, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.959 it's and it's funny you brought up about how there 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.880 are only six states that don't have that IL, Ohio 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.399 and Indiana ironically being two of the six. But here's 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.920 a statistic. Since two thousand and two when the OHSAA 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:39.240 member schools, over eight hundred of them voted against the NIL. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.000 Since then, right back then, there were nine school nine 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.440 states that had ANIL. Now there's forty four. But here, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.640 get a load of this. Less than one percent, less 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.800 than one percent of student athletes in those forty four 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.600 states take advantage of it. I think it's gonna you're 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.160 gonna find it's gonna be much trickier to do it 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.680 at the high school level. Everybody sees what's going on 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:04.440 in inner collegiate athletics, specifically in football and primarily men's basketball, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:05.640 those two and needs. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.480 To be a little bit different to the high school level. Yeah, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.080 I think in Indiana's surprise too. As big as basketball 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:11.639 is there too, you think they'd be on this thing. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.960 But it's inevitable. I mean, if you look at the 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.720 trajector this time, this is what back in twenty twenty 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.320 two is when we last voted down in Ohio and 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.720 Jamier Brown comes along and changes the game. He's a 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.840 if you don't know who that is, wide receiver. He 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.360 put up as a sophomore one thousand yards and fifteen 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.120 touchdowns up in Dayton. He is committed to be a 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.560 receiver for the Ohio State University. In twenty twenty seven, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.359 he fought a lawsuit that forces the Ohio Athletic Association 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:42.000 High School Athletic Association to address this issue. So I 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.040 don't know much has changed between now and then, but 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.080 is do you think the outcome will be different this time? 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.000 Well? I do. I think it's going to be voted 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.840 in and here's why. And I think you brought up 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:56.560 you're correct. A Franklin County judge issued a temporary restraining 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.919 order allowing Brown through his family right, and that's that's 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.639 the key. Steen athlete and family. I'll get to that momentarily, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.200 but allowing him to pursue this currently well, that expires. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.920 Training order expires on December fifteenth. So the challenge is 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.320 in the OHS. They ain't says, hey, we member school, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.840 we want to legislate this, because if we do not, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.239 if we don't vote this in, you never know. It 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.600 should be the judge, you never know, would the governor 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.960 at some point get involved. We've seen that before, right, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.160 So if you want to, if you want to maintain 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.520 control and put up some guardrails and do things like that, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.000 then I think you're gonna see. And I've talked to 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.360 a number of athletic directors, of which I am obviously 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.360 not one, but I deal with them all the time, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.880 and most have told me they will vote yes. Because 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.520 of that, they figure it's better to enact it now 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.400 and then tweak it as you go. You know, you 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.920 got to start somewhere, and to your point, is inevitable 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.480 it is coming at some point. So their thought process is, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.160 let's get it in there now and then let's deal 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.280 with it now. This is a proposal, And I read 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.640 through and I watched the presentation that the OHSAA put 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.040 together and they've hired a company called Influential Athlete. And 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.440 it's interesting. It's a husband and wife. He was a 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.160 former high school athletic director and the wife there they're 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.640 the gradis Joe and Stephanie Grady. She was a figure 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.800 skater and spent ten years doing television news. She was 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.800 an anchor. So they've lived the life. And I think 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.039 what they what they're trying to do is educate the 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.240 athletic directors and the people from the member schools of 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:39.000 the OHSAA on how this is done, what's legal, what's 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.279 not So I think here's the biggest points is this 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:47.360 it's set up. We're the only onus on the school itself, 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.919 is that they have to police their own kid should 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.159 they sign an agreement. It's designed to be the student 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.200 athlete and the family and the OHSAA. So if you 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.880 get an agreement you as a student athlete, you have 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.479 fourteen days to send that agreement to the OHSAA for approval. Now, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.640 on the surface, you know, it seems if everybody I 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.440 hate to say what I'm about, okay, go, if everyone 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.480 follows the rules, this would be great. This would be 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.159 a win win for everybody. The issue is gonna become 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.880 not everybody follows the rules, of. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.960 Course you will. You're gonna have people wanting to game 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.479 the systems with anything in life. Tom gambles here he 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.800 is mister high school football in the Tri State and 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.359 as Commissioner GCL South, He's gonna have Elder Saint X 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.680 highlighted at a pay corps on Friday. That's gonna be great. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.640 Tickets are going on sale shortly. Here we're talking about nil. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.080 It's before Ohio high school principles. All the members of 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.840 the State Athletic Association get one vote on this for 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.760 each school, each member school. And it's interesting because I 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.160 was looking through getting ready for this at the Canton repository. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.920 They surveyed a bunch of schools up there, and I'd 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.720 imagine the same sediment is true in Canton and Akron, 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.479 is it is in Cleveland or Toledo or Dayton or 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.279 Youngstown or here in Cincinnati or Columbus for that matter, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.120 And that is the sentiment is it's inevitable, but they're 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.040 really real reluctant. So essentially the quick read on this 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.880 is administrators oppose it almost overwhelmingly. The college and ile model, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.520 but believe high school and ile is going to happen, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.200 and that they have to set rules rather than have 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.440 the courts and legislature and pose them. As you said, 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.000 But you know, to me, there's always been this hypocrisy 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.120 Tom of well, this is about educational athletics. Administrators say 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.280 high school sports are educational opportunities, not modetization, not vehicles. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.520 Yet schools, I mean, how much money are saying acts 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.599 and elder going to get from ticket sales from this game, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:44.080 concession sponsorships, broadcast rights. Some schools are paying coaches six 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.279 figure salaries. I mean, how do you defend that position 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.680 if everyone profits, accept the people who are on the 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:49.400 field performing. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.520 Well, that's where it got to with college athletics, and 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.839 I'll get to that question momentarily. Here's the big word 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.120 I think that needs to be talked about. You can 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:04.040 have no elective So what that means is colleges and 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.440 universities in their athletics department. So like I use Texas 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.040 Tech University, they had a bunch of you know, I'm 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.800 presuming oil guys who have done well, say here's seven 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.680 to seven and a half million dollars, go out and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.720 get a defensive line. Okay, that's the collective. It's it's 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.960 the schools, the boosters you cannot as part of this 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:29.720 collective is strictly prohibited under the OHSAA proposal. So what 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.520 that means is so it's no different than really recruiting. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:38.160 So school A where stud player is attending school B 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.360 can't all of a sudden go hey, we can offer 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.400 you this, you just come here, and that is even 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.880 going to be vetted out. Let's just say because again Tony, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.680 you know, you know it's going to happen at some point. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.440 But what's gonna what's gonna happen is so if you're 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.240 at if you're the athletic director at school A, and 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.280 suddenly stud athlete goes to school B and you don't 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.680 hear anything about out any nil deal. But then after 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.040 he's there for four to six months, here comes this 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.200 and again I use the term massive. I don't know 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.440 how mad it can even be at the high school level. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.960 But then that school aad he's going to go wait 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.960 a minute, and on it happens in recruitment, right, I mean, 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.640 that's supposed to be illegal recruiting. It's going to happen 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.480 at some point in time in this nil personal branding, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.200 you know all of that, but let's just hope. Let's 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.320 just hope that you know, we all have always said, 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.600 haven't we high school sports and amateur sports is the 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.120 last bastion you know of purity that there is. Now 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.960 we're all not that naive right out, but let's hope 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.840 that if it's structured where the school is out of it. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.200 So in other words, and this is why I don't think, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.839 I mean, people think there's going to be crazy types 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.120 of money thrown around. I live in northern Kentucky. Kentucky 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.560 has legal nil. I don't know of one kid that's 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.040 been out there prominently. But then I because here's why. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.320 You can't wear in a video or a photograph. You 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.280 can't wear your school logo, you can't be with your 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.040 school mascot, you can't be videoed on the sidelines or 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.240 on the court. So it has to be you. It's 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.880 your public recognition that you've achieved because of your athletic fame. Well, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.160 sonny do this pick any kid the best football player 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.800 in Cincinnati, right, he's not in uniform, he has no 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:33.800 identification of school, yet he's doing something for a company. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.760 How many people outside of the school or he plays, 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.560 would even know who that person at all? 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.040 Not at all. I mean, you know, when you see 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.560 the commercial with Jamar Chaser, example, Joe Burrow, you know 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 they're wearing it, it's pretty clear they're in a Bengals uniform. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.640 Or because it's good for the league, it's good for 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.760 the brand. I don't understand why the schools wouldn't want 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.560 to embrace that. And the other element of this too 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.000 is because that makes it less attractive to stay in Ohio. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.160 And now were saying there's no collectives here in Ohio, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.880 so that ham during this, I go, are you just 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.120 gonna get recruits like the top picks? And you know, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.840 mister football for Ohier, mister basketball, they're gonna wind up 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.240 going to some out of state prep school or an 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.160 IMG academy type program because they can monetize. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.679 It better that they're gonna do that anyway. I mean 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.840 that that's big time dollars. I mean, you know, there 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.720 was a basketball player from from Newport, Kentucky who went 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.240 down to a prep school in Georgia who is now 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.760 committed to the University of Kansas. I mean, he's that good. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.800 But you're going to get that anyway. But but I 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.320 think if you want to maintain to your original question, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.080 you know when we started the amateurism piece of this, 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.400 you've got to legislate this, and that's why the UHSAA 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.319 would rather govern it. And I think here's the other thing. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.239 Of the less than one percent in the forty four states, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.720 the majority of mos right out and this is a 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.520 three year period. Essentially, the majority are in Olympic sports. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.240 Because you're not a running back wearing a uni form 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.760 that nobody sees what you look like. You're you know, 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.120 you're maybe a gymnast or a golfer or a tennis 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.319 player where they see you where your you know, your 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.440 public recognition is just you, if not the team. So 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.000 I think you're going to see a lot of those companies. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.679 But are they really going to get a ton of 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.000 money or are they going to get golf balls and 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.319 golf yeah, you. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.200 Know, quarterbacks versus yeah, golfer. But I mean, you know, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:30.080 it's still there's some local celebrity element to it, no question, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.320 Yeah it's and every little bit helps. I mean, if 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.000 you get you know, a lifetime supply of bridge stones. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.400 Good, yeah, oh I have no, I don't have any 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.040 issue with it, and I think most of. I think 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.360 the biggest thing back in twenty twenty two is it 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.360 wasn't clarified enough. I think the OHSA has clearly refined this, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.320 and if you look at all the details of their bylaws, right, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.720 they've put some real time and thought into this. I 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.719 think the original issue was the schools felt like the 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.840 own this was going to fall fully on them. And 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.360 believe me, a high school athletic director today, you gotta 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:06.880 be nuts to be a high school ad with the 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.360 way parents are today. Right, we'll start with that, but today, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.080 can you imagine if you had to govern all this, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.679 Not that you have nothing to do here, because you're 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.680 going to have to pay attention if your athlete signs 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.720 an agreement, but by having no collective and by making 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.920 it the onus of the family and the student athlete 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.920 and the OHSAA, hopefully high schools won't get overburdened with 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.679 this because God knows they don't have the staff the time. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.120 I mean, high school ads will flee, they will run. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.760 Probably walk to the I would think so, because you know, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.360 there's the one percent reality in a less than one 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:43.840 percent of kids are going to go on to a 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.280 collegiate or pro career. Yet forty percent of parents think 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.400 that that's the case and that you know that's true, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.959 But that also adds an interesting mix to team chemistry, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.360 entitlement issues, and the parent pressure as well. Man, what's 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.600 happening in the locker rooms is the question? You know, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.440 if if you know the quarter back or I don't know, alignment, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.280 someone is getting paid and making some money off this, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.439 is there a jealousy component and other high jealous high 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.480 school kids undermining them and thinking it should be them, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.040 And what happens in that locker room? 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.440 Well, I think it goes to the kid who maybe 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.599 is a D three player whose parents are delusional that 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.960 he's going to play in Alabama or Georgia. So now 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.000 you're going to have a think about it. So the 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.319 onus is on the family and the kid. Well, how 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.240 many moms and dads are going to because I know 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.959 I've known of circumstances where moms run X accounts for 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.040 the kid. The kid doesn't want anything to do with it. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.160 That's how crazy this is. So now we're going to 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.600 have parents out there seeking these type of financial opportunities. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.000 And again I'm not blaming anybody for trying to better 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.160 themselves financially, But do you really want that? How many 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.679 kids won't even know that their mom or dad is 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.160 out there trying to get these deals. It's like the 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.680 old Hey, you know, my son should be starting over yours. Well, 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.839 if you want to talk to me, we're going to 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.679 bring in the kid who you'rs. And most of the 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.040 time when they have those meetings coaches, the kids don't 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.640 even know what's going on. That's how crazy this has 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.560 gotten over the years. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.480 Yeah, it's you're going to see you know, toddlers in 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.080 the weight room now pretty soon, because he's destined, right, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.320 I mean, that's where it's going to be. It canna 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.079 be recruited out of kindergarten at some point. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:22.200 Yeah, it's it's coret. Well, that's and you bring up recruited. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.640 I think that's the challenge of this. You know, there 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.320 already are enough issues with recruitment, and now you add this. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.320 I think that's where the high school administrators have the 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.800 biggest issue. Look, it's hard enough to govern recruiting. Now 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.360 you're going to add this name image lightness component with 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:46.080 financial wherewithal to it? Can you imagine, you know, soorry. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.480 The good news is the Elder saying, next game Friday 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.600 night at Paycorps. That's that's the thing where you know, 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.840 that's where I hope, that's where it's fun. That's what 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.400 it's about. You know. These are two teams. I mean 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:04.560 Elder was down twenty two to nothing and incredible to win. Yeah, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.440 a great finish. It scored you know, nine points in 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.040 the final minute one and Saint X, which lost to 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.000 Moler during the regular season, came back and beat them. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.720 I mean those are you know, Elders undefeated. I mean, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.320 these are this is what high school sports is supposed 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.320 to be about, you know. And it's it's great that 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.360 they're playing at pay Corps. I hope the weather holds 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:24.880 off and doesn't. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.040 You're not looking good, but I mean you're you know, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.880 you're in high school kid, You're playing at Paycorps. How 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:29.360 cool is that? 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:30.120 Yeah? 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:31.080 Yes? 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.280 And maybe some well played football. What do you think 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:34.760 I would think? 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.960 So between Elder and Saint X bragging rights to the 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.240 west Side, he was a commission to GCL South will 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.040 probably pacing up the sidelines like an expectant parent. I'd 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.440 imagine Tom, and we're just like, what almost forty minutes 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.320 away from tickets going on sale at the o hss 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.520 A website, so not less than an hour from now 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.520 for sure, Uh, twenty thousand should go pretty quickly. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.080 I would think solony on one thing, I never go 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.360 on the sideline because what you don't want is I 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.160 don't hire the officials. Now playoff time, they get selected 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.800 from around the state. But I learned a long time 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.800 ago stay out of harm's way because I don't know 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.680 if you know this or not, but coaches aren't necessarily 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.360 logical during the heat of again, right, So and who 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.000 do they go looking for a poor sucker like me? 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.400 That's right. You know what's funny is it'll be interesting 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.920 because you know, pay Corps is so big, you know 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.840 what I mean. I mean, it's obvious. We've got to 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.760 go back to two thousand and one. There was a doubleheader. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.200 It was Princeton Saint X and Cole Raine Elder forty 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.960 eight thousand and change almost fifty thousand people. Was a 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.280 regional semi final. So this is the next step, the 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.040 regional bucks. But we really haven't seen that since. You know, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:47.600 that was one of those you know how you have 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.320 the perfect storm. The weather was gorgeous. Princeton was having 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.920 a great year. It was Cole Raine Elder was playing 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.120 every year, so I mean it was it was just 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.920 But I think it'll be a great crowd. I think 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.600 two good football teams we need. We need a Division 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.880 one stay champion. So hopefully one of these two can 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:02.520 bring one back. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.000 Yeah, that and that would certainly it'd be fair expected too, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.679 with the level of talent that you have. And it 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.840 doesn't get a belted better than Elder Saint X. I 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.200 mean that is there's probably west Siders taking up arms 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.959 right now between the two the two teams. But I 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.840 love that kind of passion that you're bringing. Are you 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.080 surprised quickly? Tom? How how how quickly the deal was 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.840 able to get done by the commissioners and the Bengals, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.560 because man I heard these like they want to take 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.639 the pay carse like Bengals don't do anything quickly, and 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:28.720 they did to their credit. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.560 Yeah, County, I think I know. I've I've talked a 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.679 couple of times to Kevin Askell and choose the athletic 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.439 director at Elder at Denise three House, who's a county 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.119 commission Obviously, I think they have a connection to Elder 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.639 and it takes someone like that and you know, I 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.800 can't remember it might have been her, might have been 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.720 somebody else talked about you know, this is a county facility. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.240 This is what this is for, yes, And that's the 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.760 best thing for me because I know there have been 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.760 some previous times when when maybe you know, the least 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.000 agreement and there two well you know, we don't want 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.159 this and that. And it helps to have the turf, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.840 right when you get the synthetic turf, because when you 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.600 go back to two thousand, it was Elder Highlands was 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.160 the first game high school game ever played there, right, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.120 so you know it's been since twenty eighteen when Coda 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.080 West played Saint X and the season opener. But it's great, 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.399 I mean for a game like this, and you know 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.240 it's probably Sloany would have been at UC that they 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.080 not had their you know, National Gavy game and you 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.399 know that's the whole thing, and it would have been 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.800 sold out there. I mean, I think that's which is cool, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.080 which is a great atmosphere. But the play where the 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.560 NFL plays, it's it's a great experience for the kids 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:36.480 and deserving. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.719 I think so too. That's gonna be fantastic, Tom Gamble, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.840 all the best brother, I'm glad you're doing well, CEO 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.440 of In Game Sports, the commissioner of the GCL South 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.040 and be highlighted on Friday night at pay Court. Doesn't 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.320 get any better than that, All the best man, thanks again. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.560 Be well, you got it, say to you slone all right? 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.119 Right then, late, I got to get a news update 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:58.159 in It's a Scott Sloan show seven hundred w. Welcome 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.439 back on Scott Sloan. This is seven hundrelw and not 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.919 good news if you like, if you're an adult and 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.320 you make adult decisions and make choices on what goes 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.480 in or doesn't go into your body, and you like 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.919 to have fun as you know. For a while, been 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:18.720 following this issue over hamp particularly intoxicating hamp in Ohio, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.639 where we finally got over the hump here and figured 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.000 this out and said, hey, listen, we've got businesses that 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.639 are spending hundreds, if not millions of dollars investing in 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.360 THHD infused beverages. Then many many adults enjoy, and many 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.320 adults prefer over beer over alcohol, over the hard stuff, 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.199 because of how it makes you feel. Following the ingestion 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.120 of said product, and plenty of Americans medicinally a recrelation 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.600 to use THC cannabis. I do myself, don't have a 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.240 problem with it, doesn't ruin my life, makes me feel better. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.320 And I think when you start infusing the beverages with 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.760 this stuff and it's regulated, of course, like alcohol is, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.560 that's good for the econmic's good for the consumer. You 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.960 have choices now, and it's all about choices in America. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.280 But politics once again rears its ugly head. So as 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.280 you may or not know, Congress closed the farm bill 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.639 HEMP loophole during the government shutdown vote. And it was 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.639 one of those hey, we'll just a vote timing, we'll 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.639 vote on it and see what's in it later. And 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.720 this is sad because literally Ohio has had the rug 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.479 pulled out from under us now, in particular based on 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.200 this vote that came down because recently this was debated 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.520 in with the General Assembly and Governor de Wine signing. 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.359 It's saying, okay, this is good. What we have to 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.800 do here is allow the THD beverages to continue. We 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.000 can regulately, we can put limits on it, we can 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.399 oversee it. But we realize that countless individuals and investors 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.240 have put tons of money, literally tens of millions of 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.880 dollars into this industry that is now, at this rate, 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.200 going to eclipse the craft beer industry because craft beer 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.119 has been suffering for a while and the makers of 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.720 the craft beer and the brewers are looking, wow, we 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.640 need an alternative here. We got to figure out how 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:57.919 we're going to keep the lights on. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:20:58.600 And so. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.800 He comes along and they're like, this is great, and 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.840 we're seeing a huge spike in number of people enjoying 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:08.359 it because the word spread and now we have politics 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.879 as usual absolutely destroying this in Ohio. So here's what 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.080 just happened. Okay, I mentioned that Ohio legislators had the 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.479 rug pulled out, had lost all the leverage overnight because 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:22.040 of the government reopening, and part of the shutdown vote was, well, 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:28.320 what Mitch McConnell have proposed. And as much as things change, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:29.960 it stays the same. As much as you hear about 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.000 my god, we've got the GOP in charge, we've got Republicans, 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.280 we've got President Trump, we have the Senate, we have 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.600 the House, we control the governor's man, we got all 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.119 the wisds. Is great, It's going to be the greatest 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.639 thing ever. We're going to make money. Everyone's going to 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.879 be rich. We're cutting two thousand dollars checks. Things are great. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.400 What's really changed here because Senator to Mitch mcconne, I'm 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:54.760 going Senator Mitch McCall is a great example of follow 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:59.840 the money in politics, and so McConnell. In twenty fourteen 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.439 last re election, Bill i'st what ten years ago? He 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.200 received more donations from the beer, wine, and liquor sector 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.119 than any other senator in Congress, over one hundred and 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:16.679 forty four almost one hundred and forty five thousand dollars. WILLIAMS. Street, 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.879 who is the former head of Jack Daniels, is his 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:25.040 top individual donor. He's given seventy three thousand dollars in 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.520 contributions over Mitch McConnell's career. As a matter of fact, 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.920 three of the top five donors to Mitch McConnell are 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.320 from the Jack Daniels corporation. 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:35.760 And in the. 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:40.800 Past he's supported and got through legislation to give tax 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.720 advantages for liquor distillers. I don't have a problem keeping 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.000 business in Kentucky and the Bourbon Trail, and of course 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.440 that's you know, Jack Daniel's difference Tennessee. But you know 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.440 what I'm saying is that, Okay, that's all well and good, 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:55.000 but over his career he's received all this money from 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.639 alcohol and tobacco. But in particular this is alcohol because 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:03.160 Congress just closed the farm loophole allowing THHG level products 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:09.080 to remain open. But what wound up happening was Congress 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.919 comes along and says that's it, and it was buried 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.960 as part of the government of the ACA shut the 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:21.040 So two things followed the big money here. Secondly, why 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.720 is this even part of reopening the government when the 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.960 debate was over healthcare and they said, oh, we kind 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.800 of slipped this in at the last minute, slipped it 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.800 in at the last minute, Like I'm sorry, but if 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.240 Democrats did this, you'd be losing your mind right now. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.840 But no one's paying attention because it's mit, dear old mischipaccadum. 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.119 It's absurd, it's horrible, and this is what's wrong with 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:44.320 politics and those people who would defend this activity simply 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:48.040 because they were Republican. It's just simply intolerable, is what 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.800 this is. Because so many people rely and have invested 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.680 money here in Ohio and other states for that matter, 0:23:55.080 --> 0:24:01.800 but particular in Ohio that you simply can't you can't 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:05.160 fathom just how this whole thing's going to play out. Now, 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.840 maybe there is a little bit of hope here because 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.239 I guess you know the doomsday scenarios. You have an 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.520 entire industry wiped out. The THC beverage sector in Ohio 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.479 is literally going to be made extinct by this. And 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.480 it's the doing of Mitch McConnell, it's doing of the 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:24.320 Republicans support and voted for this thing. And so what's 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.960 going to have to happen is now you're going to 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.080 have to if you are one of these beverage makers, 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:32.160 leave the market entirely liquidate your inventory over the transition period, 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:33.840 which you're hearing is maybe they have a year to 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.159 do this, and just hope against hope that maybe that 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.840 there's some sort of federal intervention later on, going hey, 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.240 we screwed this up, we need to redo this. But 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.439 the idea is to reopen the government. Is now you 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.840 have destroyed the entire industry where people have literally put 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.640 their life savings into. Not to mention the bartenders and 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.080 restaurants and stores because the way and work as well. 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:55.720 You can sell the product, but now it has to 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.600 be a dispensary. Who's going to go go to a 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.120 dispensary to buy this stuff? The bars are selling it now, 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.399 Like you want to go sit at a bar and 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.879 enjoy one of these beverages. And I'm sorry if you 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.080 don't like THC or you don't have to. But if 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.600 you sit there enjoying your craft beer, your Budweiser, your 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.560 Miller Lite, your Mick Ultra, your craft beer the day, 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.640 whatever it is, and you're sitting next to somebody who's 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:25.120 enjoying a I don't know, a martini, a Manhattan, a Cosmo, 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.880 a glass of wine, and then somebody is sitting next 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.600 to them enjoying a THHD infuseed beverage. It's absurd to 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.159 think that the people who are drinking the beer, the wine, 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.280 and the alcohol would look down their nose at someone 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.520 enjoying a thhdu infuse. It's the same thing you're drinking 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.760 for the effect. People say, wow, I drink for the taste. Yeah, yeah, 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.680 that's certainly a factor. Niple. Let's face it, we drink 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:52.000 to have our inhibitions drop to feel better, to feel comfortable, 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.480 to maybe make pain time happen, but largely because it's 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.240 social and it loosens you up and it feels good. 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.000 That's why we drink alcohol. Nothing better than a buzz, right, 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.639 provided you're not driving a car, you're not hurting anyone 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.560 but yourself. And I always, it always is funny to 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.720 me the level of people with you know, country club 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:11.960 folks who would be looking down their nose at people 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.200 who smoke weed back in the day, even though they're well, 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.280 you guys are drinking you know, four or five martinis. 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.960 Well that's that's classier. It's a classier high. You're still 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.000 getting high. And to think that this whole industry now 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:27.240 has been really put in jeopardy is disturbing on so 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.000 many levels. What happened to free market economies? What happened 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.640 to free market republicans for that matter. And I'm sure 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.159 there's democrats to get money from, you know, from the 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:42.240 alcohol lobby, for sure, but this has Mitch mccone's fingerprints 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:46.359 on it, unfortunately, and it's it's sadly devastating on an industry. 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.040 And it also makes the case where well, you know, 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.800 you talk about Joe Biden in the auto pen. Is 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.000 there something going on there? Does Mitch McConnell actually aware 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.600 of what's going on at this point? It's so sad 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.159 and unfortunate. But you know, if you're a bourbon producer, 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.000 which I'm a big fan of bourbon, obviously, I understand 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.359 you got to protect your interests, you're protecting your market share. 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.080 But again we're back to what government doesn't do, and 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:06.960 that is to be the official, to be the referee, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.280 to make sure that the rules apply fairly to everyone else. 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.040 And when you talk about ACA subsidies, which I'm against 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.920 because it's just a subsident, it's stupid. Democrats love subsidy, 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.600 but I don't know, it looks like Republicans are playing 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.840 that game as well. I mean, you know, you're giving 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:25.680 alcohol subsidies out and you're protecting that industry from THG producers, 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.880 THCH beverage producers, And that really is the maddening part 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.520 of this whole thing that plenty of people and I 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.200 think it's one of those things too. It really is 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.399 a turning point because you know, as someone who is 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.919 a person who uses cannabis, I look at it and 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.399 I get that there has always been a stigma against 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.760 cannabis users. You know burnouts, you know Jeff Spacoli, Cheech 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.200 and Shong, you know Bill and Ted, whoever it might be. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.199 There are a bunch of stoners and slackers. Yeah, I 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.040 get the perception. And the marijuana users really quite honestly 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.119 didn't help themselves with that brand. But it became mainstream. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.320 We realized the medicinal properties of it, the curative properties 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.879 of it. When it comes to hemp, the ability to 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.680 use hemp as a is a product as a material 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.639 to fashion things out of. But then that small amount 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.760 of THC and there can be still extracted as a loophole, 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.840 because this is the loophole government created so they can 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.560 make these THC and fused beverages. And now there are 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:27.080 just so many people, everything from suburban moms to urban dads, etc. 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.520 Are enjoying THD and fuse beverages and they're really not 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:36.480 different than Seltzer's mom waters and stuff like that. And 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.200 we had the craft beer industry that came along, then 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.640 we have the Seltzer industry in that that was a spike. 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.680 Now we have THHC. That's a spike, and you're going 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.440 to undermine all that because of special in church politics, 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.240 and I thought that the whole idea was to go 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.840 to Washington and change all this stuff. Well, guess what 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.080 if you're not satisfied completely with what's going on with 0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.120 this administration with Trump, as I am not. I think 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.640 there's some wonderful things he's done. I think there's a 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.120 number of things he does that I shake my head 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.000 and go, what are we doing over here? This would 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.560 be one of the men I know that Trump's doing. 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.160 But again, this is politics as usual. It's the good 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.120 old boid network, and it's money getting what it does, 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.680 doing what it does. In this case, it's destroying an 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.240 entire industry. And it's unfortunate, really is because so many people, 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.120 like I said, I, are leaning into THC and fused beverages, 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.240 and now that one hits home. Whereas you may not 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.840 have you know, had an edible or smoked or vaped 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.240 or tinture or whatever it might be delivery system, Now 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.320 people are going, wow, you know, it's THHD thing. It's 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.760 a different kind of buzz than alcohol. And I feel 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.959 so much better the day after than I do when 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.080 I have a few beers or a couple glass of 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.760 bottle of wine or I don't know, a pitcher of margaritas, 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.560 for example. Boy, this I feel I feel a little 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.600 bit better about this. Plenty of people experience in the 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.960 word of mouth travels and that's why it's in the 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.320 industry in itself is exploding right now, or at least 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.240 it was, and now we're going to undermine this whole thing. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:59.280 So long story short, it is gravely disappointing. It's unfortunate. 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.680 It's a sadd indictment of our political system that we 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.200 think is changing, but it's really not. And it also 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.520 limits your choice in your ability to do things sin 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.600 as an adult that adults are allowed to do in 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:14.560 this country simply because of big money. I'm not naive 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.040 enough to think that somehow this is going to change things. 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.720 But again, this is the price that we pay for 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.440 the system we have. And when you talk about how 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.040 to blow up the system and change it structurally, change Washington, 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.280 I don't know why we're not exploiting and talking about 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.920 this more, because that is absolutely a great illustration and 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.160 a metaphor for how we feel about our government today. 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.120 Quick time out, We've got news on the way in 0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.840 about eight nine minutes. Here on seven hundred. WLW got 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.080 a special treat coming up at ten oh seven for Thanksgiving, 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.920 a little bit something, a little bit different involving that 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.680 that's coming up on the show. Speaking of the holidays 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.160 and the like. Though this is you know, you hear 0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:01.120 those what do they call them? Not a not a 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.680 test but a I guess an index indexes. I guess 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.560 what they would call this on you know, American consumer 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.800 habits in the economy, like, you know, people are buying less, 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.960 Big Matter, the Big Mac indicator or something like that. 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.320 This is a new one, Kevin Kevin McAllister index. So 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:23.560 home alone, Home Alone two. If Kevin McAllister were doing 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.840 what he did today, how much would that cost versus 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:31.520 what nineteen eighty nine in Home Alone? The people at 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.000 I select dot com did this the twenty twenty five 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.840 price tag of Kevin's like this would be Home Alone two, 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.560 then the New York City Escape, and in nineteen ninety 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.080 two when Home Alone two came out, that would have 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:48.200 cost two thousand, one hundred nine dollars. How much would 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.720 Kevin McAllister's New York City Escape cost today? Well, the 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.840 Plaza Hotel suite he was in was eleven hundred dollars 0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.400 back in ninety two. Today that suite goes for over 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:05.640 six thousand dollars six thousand a night. Damn. His room 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:10.080 service feest was just under one thousand dollars today, that'd 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.920 be about twenty two hundred dollars. The ice cream Sunday 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.920 then was eighteen today it's twenty four. And that's the 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.480 most reasonable increase too. So the action retail cost from 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.200 nineteen ninety two being twenty one oh nine to twenty 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:30.600 twenty five, that number eighty five hundred dollars, which is 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:35.240 a over three hundred percent jump, and it still doesn't 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.360 include you know, taxis or I think he donated money 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.840 in a toy store and airfare and all that other stuff. 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.280 And yeah, that's a four hundred and sixty eight percent 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.960 increase of the Plaza Hotel suite. That's some serious money, Kevin. 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.920 That's some serious We have the Kevin McAllister Index. And 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.960 now you know, you know Scott's loan show back after 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.600 news in about five here, hang on seven hundred WWD, 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:04.040 since then, do you want to be an American? Slowly 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.200 back on seven hundred WLW DONF know this, but one 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.760 week from tomorrow. It is the best holiday of your 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.480 hands done. It's the best holiday. Why because it's all 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.080 about food, It's about family, it's about football, the three oups. 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.480 There's no pretext, there's no gifts. There's just food. There's gluttony. 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:20.400 There's passing out on the couch at three o'clock with 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.880 your hand down your pants, waking up at five from 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.720 your turkey and deuced stupor to eat more food. Have 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.960 a sandwich with stuffing on it. Carbs, carbs and more carbs. 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.200 That's what I'm talking about. And nothing embodies that more 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.680 than the new Dorothy Lane Market and Mason where I am, 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.840 and Chef Carrie Walters is here, she's executive chef, corporate chef, 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.600 and Mike Chrisman is the director of the meat department. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.160 Forty seven years. Mike, you've been handling meat forty seven years. Yes, 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.600 I've been in the meat business for over forty years. 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.560 Rank the top three cuts of meat in your mind? 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:51.520 Number one is what. 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:58.280 A ribbi prime rib goes with everything? Prime prime rib yeah, 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.680 prime ribbon, red wine. All right, that's the big one. 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.480 I wouldn't argue with that prime rib thing. It's it 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.480 is delicious, and if you ask a butcher behind the 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.719 candle counter, they'll tell you their favorite steak is a ribbu. 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.239 It's always a ribb. It's marbled, the flavors there because 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.080 you have the fat, the caramelization. You got all that 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:16.760 working on too. And I don't have to tell chef 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.960 that what's the best way to cook us a ribbi? 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.560 And low and slow? I love that reverse ser Oh yeah, 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:26.840 little thermometer. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.640 So I'll go in to Dorothy Lane. I'll get a 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.560 nice inch and a quarter maybe two foot thick ribbi 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.719 and I'll take that and I'll put it in my 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.200 smoker at two twenty five and then get it to 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.960 one eighteen and then take it off and then sear it. 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.640 And then you have a reverse seer with the crust 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.359 on it, and it's got a little smoke to it. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.600 That's what I like. How about that? Absolutely we go there, 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.520 we're talking food. If you can't tell, I'm into this 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.200 thing right now. Congratulations. By the way, Dorothy Lane Market 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.760 opening in Mason. I was kind of joking with carrying 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.960 everyone else to like it felt like this thing has 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.680 been under construction since eight teen sixty four, and it 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.359 took like three years to come to it, but it's 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.040 absolutely go. I've yet to be in because two or 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.640 three times we went by. I'm like, we can always 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.520 go in. We live right there. It's like there's always 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.120 a line, which that's a good sign, right absolutely. Why 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.000 is explaining this way? Why is Dorothy Lane so popular? 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.960 Why is it such a big thing so iconic? 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.359 Dorothy Line is a popular because it's got a history 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.719 in Dorothy Lane's family owned business, been in business since 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.800 nineteen forty eight. We've grown, We've grown slow. This is 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.120 our fourth store, so it is the place, it's place 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.760 to be. We've gone a little bit different direction. 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:33.200 Yeah. 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.480 When the industry has taken one turn, we've taken the 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:40.040 opposite term. So we're a gourmet retailer in the Dayton 0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.200 area and we've got things that note you can't find 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:42.959 anyplace else. 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.160 And you have a significant number of foodies around, especially 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:47.840 in Mason. Do you know the chef. There's things that 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:49.520 you would look at us Durre and go wow, you 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.239 that you can't find in the world. 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.520 Correct, correct, And we make a lot of our things 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.720 from scratch, so we kind of cross the board between 0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.440 old fashion. We have great potato salad, great additional macaroni salad, 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.520 but we also have a really fun vegan chickpea salad. 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.000 So we you know, we're trying to make everybody happy, Grandma, 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:09.000 your teenage. 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.319 Well, it's like if you know, it's not like a supermarket. 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.279 It is, but it's a restaurant too. It's it's a 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.640 really interesting combination. We go in, there's a lot of 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.040 great chef made, chef inspired and fresh. You know, I 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.520 can go in and get it, get a ribb if 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:21.440 I want right, Yeah, you. 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.040 Can get a ribbi coach right on the grill the 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.480 way that you want it on the grill, and you 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.040 can take it upstairs to our cafe and eat it 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.960 right there. Have Uh it's perfect date night, yeah, to 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.919 go and watch the sunset and have a nice steak. 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:35.239 Right. 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.560 And it's it's a really cool common because we've moved 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.279 into that era. Now you go to any grocery store, 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.520 especially Dorothy Lane, and there's all the prepackaged. We don't 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.400 have time to cook like we used to. It's especially 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.719 like I'll do it on the weekend if I have 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.520 time even but it's great to go in and get 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.120 and and now what you guys have is so diverse. 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.640 That's the cool part. You're just talking about adding Indian food, right, correct? 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.360 Correct, Yeah, we have a really very large clientele and 0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:02.360 that's they're looking for more of the you know, lagoon friendly, 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:08.120 delicious vegan. So it's really it's been fun to you know, 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.160 start to really devolve into some of that. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.800 As far as where are you on vegans, Mike, not 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:20.759 at my house. It's a sour I love to talk. 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.200 By the way, it's a chef Carry Walters and my 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.200 Christmas who has been working the director of meat for 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.239 doroth A Lane Market, my guy forty seven years. By 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.160 the way, that's incredible. A guy who knows every cut 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.239 of every you name it. It's a fowl, is it fish? 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.279 Is it as a beef? Is it pork? He's got 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.600 He's on top of it. Let's talk about turkey, chef 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.920 real quick, Brian or no, Brian. I'm a Brian guy. 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.920 I get my fresh bird. I brind it overnight. I 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.120 know the ratios if you if you're going, well, okay 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.640 fresh turkey, Uh, you gotta do. I think it's it's 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.799 probably best to probably Brian that get all of flavor 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.200 and it would you agree? I like dry braining a 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:56.960 little bit better, which is what how do you do 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.120 that salt? 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.840 And if I always to tell people to cook the 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.560 turkey and what they want on the dinner plate. So 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:08.879 if you're into crispy delicious skin, some rub it all 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.720 over with salt, leave it uncovered in your refrigerator overnight, 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:12.680 and that skin. 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.160 Will just be delicious. Why doesn't skin get crispy moisture? 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:17.399 Number one? 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.239 Moisture is escaping, So if you do it one of 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.919 those plastic bags, you're probably not gonna be crispy skin. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.480 That's right. I grew up with my we had no 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.160 color on our skin whatsoever. My mom's of course, my 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.239 mom's turkey was delicious, but it's not the turkey that 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.040 I make. Yeah, so you kind of pick and choose 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.000 your battles, decide how you're gonna get what you want 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.720 on the dinner plate. How what's the best choice cooking 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:39.560 wise to get there? 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:39.799 Yeah? 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:41.880 Yeah, and then it's should dry brian was the dry 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.360 rub basically or the wet Brian is a cup of 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.480 salt and gall of water. And then but then you 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:48.879 can add all sorts of different stuff. 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.440 Oh sure, and you're in your wet Brian absolutely. You 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.319 know a lot of people struggle with that, like where 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.399 am I gonna put it right? 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:54.759 You know? 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.319 Can I use a cooler? My big thing is if 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.919 you're a big gravy person, a big pant sauce person, 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.080 and maybe Brian wetbrining is not for you, but that 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.359 Wetbrian gives a very moist, delicious Uh. 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.280 Well, that's where you go, see Mike in the butcher department. 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:10.880 You get the turkey, but then you get like some 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.160 backs and wings and drums, and then you make the stock. 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.200 Ahead make the stock and then make and everything else. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.600 Because the gravy pulls it all It's like the it's 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.320 like the rug. The rug pulls it all together. The 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.560 gravy pulls it all together. Here, gravy becomes a beverage. 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.879 If it's good enough, I make a pretty good grave. 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.960 I'm sure chef makes it much better gravy than I 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:31.560 do too, So. 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.759 It's someone a pretty amazing gravy. It's always fun to 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.960 see the day after Thanksgiving all of the crowds are 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.279 coming in because they all ran out of gravy and 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.359 they need to have the gravy. 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.319 That's amateur move man. The turkey parts this time of year, 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:46.880 you get some necks and the good the good stuff, 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.120 and you cook that down and make your own stock, right, 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:50.960 and then you make your own gravy out of that. 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.000 Just got plant of the head. Do a little bit 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.120 ahead anyway on that too. How big a bird should 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.600 you get is the rule. It's like a pound pound 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.279 and a half a person. We recommend one pound per person. Okay, 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.960 but to get a turkey, you know, a turkey's at 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.320 least ten twelve pounds, so a small turkey. If you 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.279 have a fifteen sixteen pound turkey, it's going to feed 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.960 fifteen sixteen people. Yeah. But if you like leftovers, get 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.560 the thirty pound turkey. Get the thirty pounds. 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.920 Yeah, Or do what I do, and I buy a 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.440 small turkey for all of the yummy parts, and I 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.759 buy an additional breast to get Oh yeah, sure the 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.719 next day to the turkey sandwiches. 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:27.440 Now you can do it a lot too. If you 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:28.560 want to get crazy right. 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:29.680 With that, I'm coming to your house. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.800 Oh yeah, I got overruled. I want to do that 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.400 one year and I'm like, no, we want the turkey, 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.160 we want the tradition, because it's about tradition, right, it is, 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.360 but explain that what I just yeah, so. 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:39.120 I always stuck. 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.279 My mother in law has been making turkey obviously for 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.719 a long time, and my first year of being married, 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.800 it's always kind of a war. That's not how I 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.800 did it. That's not how my mom did it. I 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.440 don't agree with what you're doing, so I think a 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.239 lot of the don't talk politics. Maybe talk about your 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.600 stuffing versus my stack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a 0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.400 way of turkey right to do it right? 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.600 You know it. 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.960 It's a people are very passionate about. They don't want to. 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.560 I used my God bless and my late moms for recipe. 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.239 I got the it's on an index card and uh, 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.560 you know, trying to read her cursive from years ago. 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.840 But her, I'm just we all grew up with her 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.000 stuffing and that's it. And she would make you know, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.000 there are maybe six of us, but she'd get two 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.200 loaves of bread to make the stuffing with some stuff. 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:22.840 We were eating stuffing at Easter at this point. You 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.719 know it is, but it's it's what it is. I 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.840 mentioned a lot. So anyway, you take a breast and 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.279 you slight you can, but you can do that in 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.279 the butcher shop. So it's like a pinwheel. Basically, you 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.279 put the stuffing in and then you roll it up 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.040 and if you want that it's and then you slice 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.080 it and it's beautiful on the plate. But it's not 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.800 really traditional. But you guys would butcher. 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:38.920 That, right. 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:39.160 Oh? 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.360 Absolutely, Yeah. We'll get asked all kinds of things to 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:46.359 do for their turkey. Uh like what, well, everybody will 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.680 want you other to be a bunch of people want 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:51.080 it'spatch cocked, which is where we take the backbone out 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.359 and crack the breast so it lace flat. So if 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.200 it lays flat, it's gonna cook quicker. Right, You're not 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.279 going to stuff it is easy? 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.919 Yeah, which is another big lemon. 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:00.239 True. 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.520 Yeah, Now what about a turn ducket? Have people still 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:03.840 doing that? 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:04.600 I hope not. 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.560 Why give me the chefs and gonna carry chefs here? 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.680 So you know all that poultry we need to cook it. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.040 The center power needs to be one sixty five. And 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.920 if you're sticking a quail inside of a chicken inside 0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.040 of a turkey, think about what that outside of that 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.000 turkey is going to be at by the time the 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.359 tiny little inside is one hundred and sixty five degrees. Wow, 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.120 it's well passed time. 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.359 Yeah, I gotcha. It's definitely could a little bit dry, 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.360 is what you're saying. Yes, gotcha. But people still do 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.759 the turn ducket, Yes they do. There'll be a few, 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:34.200 not a lot. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.800 We'll get asked to make some, but in the company 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.760 we probably won't make fifteen sixteen of them, gotcha. Compare 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.960 when you're selling thousands of turkeys, fifteen sixteen of them? 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:45.319 Right? 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.680 Yeah, what do you so if someone says, you know 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:52.200 what a turkey it's it's been done, that's old, that's 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.759 twenty twenty four. I want to do. So what is 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.879 the biggest alternative to turkey for Thanksgiving? Prime rib? Prime 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.239 rib has always been like meat? Yeah, met, prime ribbon 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.640 is not going to do a meat at the holiday? 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.719 Prime river of fil a. 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:06.839 All right? 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.600 What do people usually get about wrong about the like 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.239 a standing rib roaster? A prime rab? 0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.160 People tend to overcook them, so they want to they 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.319 want to get it done. And prime rib is good 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.520 at one hundred and twenty degrees and if they they 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.319 cook it too long, it usually gets overcooked. Yeah, it's 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.520 got to be rare, yes, absolutely, And then you get 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.719 because they've had it before and it's like a shoe, right, 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.719 Well you do that ro stpeep, same thing. Right, It's 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.040 got to be you know, an order to slice it 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:35.399 and get that. It's you got to have that juice. 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.040 And some people don't like it, then you should not 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:37.520 be eating that. 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:37.719 Right. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.320 Oh yeah, anyone to come in and just have hot dogs, 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.560 get some mets on the grill Thanksgiving, not for Thanksgiving. 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.480 No people like that, And I know some people that 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.040 would go out. I'm just got going to do burgers 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.800 and hot dogs in study this morning. It's on my Christmas. 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.160 He is the Dorothy Lane Market Mason by the way, 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.480 meat department director there has been doing that for four decades. 0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.239 And Chef Carrie Walters, who's very young and has only 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:01.719 been doing this for a few years, but she is 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:05.520 in corporate twenty five years corporate chef. And we're talking 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.719 about Thanksgiving it or ready for Thanksgiving? Gett your bird? 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.840 Can you still get a fresh turkey? 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.239 Absolutely, we're gonna take Yeah, we're gonna take fresh turkey. 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.759 Order something until the twenty fourth, gotcha. So it's a 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.319 good idea to place in order so that you get 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.640 a turkey in the size range that you want if 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.719 you come in and just try to get one, it 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.040 may be what we have left is what you're gonna get. 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.320 Gotcha, all right? Always a good idea to place STORER 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.600 give me a side this year, chef, Well you have to. Okay, 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.200 we got mashed potatoes. Everyone has their favorite mashed potatoes. 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:37.520 Maybe the yams sweet potatoes. Got that recipe, let's talk 0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.279 about I'm not get even. I'm not even going to 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.840 taint this convers I'm just gonna go green bean castrole. 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:43.480 Where are you on that? 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.800 I love green bean castle for but I like it fresh. 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.880 Oh okay, so we actually sell a delicious several different 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.480 types of green beans. But I'm not a big canned person, 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.640 so I like to blanch the green beans off. I 0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:01.279 make a mushroom sherry sauce. I deep eye shallots at home, 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:05.759 and I kind of do that same similar taste, nostalgic, 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.680 but it's a lot better. 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:09.919 I want to come to your house. Then said, well, trade, 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.680 how's that you hang out with my family? Hanging out 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.279 with yours probably actually go a lot better. 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:16.320 Super popular. 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.680 Yeah, probably work out for a lot of people. It's 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.080 a trade. In the twenty twenty five Thanksgiving Day Draft 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.840 the Selected from Mason, Ohio. Yeah, and I always annually 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.000 do a rant against green bean Castle. I declare you 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.440 hot every year on green bean Castle because it just 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.040 seems insulting to me. You take a can or a 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.759 frozen bag of mushy green beans, you get some soup 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.279 mix in their can of soup, and then some pre 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.080 fried onions, and you mix it all together and you 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.560 bring that that is such a disgrace to this this 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.879 hallowed holiday. I will not stand for it. Green Bean 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:51.800 Castle does not have a place on my table. 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:52.080 Yeah. 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.920 What's really scary is I think if you just interviewed 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.120 the top you know, ten people at walk into our store, 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.080 how much green bean castrole is on their menu? 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.160 People love it. Yeah, It's cheating, is what it is. 0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.040 This is the one high. It's about food, right, and 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.560 this is it. I mean, if you can't put on 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.000 a show and do the right thing on Thanksgiving, there's 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.520 no hope for this country. There's no hope whatsoever for 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.239 there's no hope for America. So I'm like Bill cut 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:17.319 Bill Cunningham of food over here all right other side? 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:18.560 Do where would you go with? 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:18.719 Like? 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:20.400 I want to try something a little different, but not 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:21.160 get too crazy. 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:21.600 That's right. 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.960 I love all those roasted vegetables, all those gorgeous swashes 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.320 that are in right now. Just makes me think a 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.719 harvest and Thanksgiving, honeynut, butternut, acorn. I think a lot 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.279 of that stuff is fun. You can make it into 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.160 a soup, soup, you can roast it along with some carrots. 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.360 It's a relatively easy recipe that goes great with turkey. 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:39.680 Yeah. 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.200 No one likes to eat on Thanksgiving more than Tom Brenneman. 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.040 And he's not doing football. Turn all that mic out, 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:46.840 Turn the other bike on here, big day, turn his 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.279 mike on here, she said, is slowely live in there 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.400 with them, she says. If you want to buy the 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.440 sides for Thanksgiving, yes, yes, okay. Do you have to 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.760 order that ahead of time as well as a turkey, 0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:57.719 We recommend it. 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.080 Okay, you can just walk into the store. It whole 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.600 variety of It's all about Thanksgiving and our prepared food cases. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.520 I believe me, I've been there many times. 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.040 But it's smart to r s v P, which is 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.000 super easy to do the you can do it online. 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.960 You can give us a call. We take orders up 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.480 till this Friday. 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.080 Until it's Friday. I got her on the phone right now. 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:21.400 She said, I'm listening to Slonia. 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:22.360 You don't listen to me. 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.239 Why didn't she put on the hotline and she could 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.000 do the interview. She'd be much better than the both 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.640 of us at this stuff. You might be right, yes, 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.280 thank you, sorry to interrupt. All right, you're not interrupting. 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.480 The legendary Tom Brendaman right there on the phone, his 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.520 wife said, I need answers to side dishes. 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:35.880 There you go. 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:37.799 That's a pretty good endorsement. I would say right there 0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:38.760 in the household. 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:40.680 A lot of the times, I always say pick your battles. 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.920 You know, you could have your friends and family bring dishes. 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.400 I love to cook, but I still get our mashed 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.920 potatoes because I can't make them better than we do. 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.840 We use beautiful French butter, whole fat cream. We steam 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.120 our potatoes, their salt and pepper. I'm not going to 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:56.800 spend the time. 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.160 To potatoes the right way. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.799 Yeah, our potatoes are delicious, So I spend time doing 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.239 some other fun stuff. So we have a lot of 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.640 people who are picking and choosing their battles. 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:06.040 Uh. 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.480 And what's what Dorothan and Mark is gonna help with 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:09.640 and what they can do at home? 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.160 Is there such thing is a meat side dish? And 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.239 what would that be for Thanksgiving? Mince meat pie is 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.000 not meat? No, let's forget what it's nuts? 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:18.200 Right? 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:18.440 Is it? 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.040 Is that a chef? What's mince meat? 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:20.640 Yeah? 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:22.080 No, it's like vegetables. 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:23.839 Is vegetable? I thought it was not. I don't. I've 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.839 had it once a long time ago. I'm like, there's 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:26.759 something I'll never eat again. 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.839 My husband would say, bacon side dish of bacon Thanksgiving? 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.440 What is going on you? I want to know what 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.640 Mike's table looks like right now, because it's a oh, 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.200 we're gonna get a side dish alipator. Probably I would 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.200 think we're gonna have meat and meat and meat. 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:48.400 Yeah, but uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have traditional sides 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.560 with my turkey every every year. We gotta have and 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:53.840 it's Uh, what's really cool is is that used to 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:57.680 be my mom and dad did Thanksgiving at their house. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:58.359 Uh. 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:03.400 Now they come to my house. So that's how it goes. 0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.320 It's gone for a full circle. 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.840 Yeah, it's and that's the rich part about it is families, right, 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:10.640 and as you get older, it's like in then the 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.839 younger ones take it over and it's different, but it's 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.600 the same, and it's just this tradition and the recipes 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:18.640 seemingly through the families live forever. And that's and that's 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.680 why I love Thanksgiving because it really is the essence 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.719 of family getting together, and and friends too for that matter. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.239 And I think friends Giving is a big one. Now 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.520 you probably see as many people come do in Friendsgivings 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:32.520 as Thanksgiving. Correct we do, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Uh, 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.320 it will always be turkey though. Turkey will always be 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:38.320 the tradition on Thanksgiving. And make sure again one sixty 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:38.959 five right. 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.000 One sixty five by that thermometer. It's the best insurance 0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:42.600 policy you have. 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:48.400 Really, I think, I think that's the most underrated kitchen tool. 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.160 And I have a bunch of you know, chef stuff 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.680 in that, but use it, you know, like a thermopen 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.640 or a even the wireless ones and bluetooth ones are great. 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.640 So those probe thermometers are awesome. It takes that you're 0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.719 doing no math, no poundage, no nothing, regardless of what 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.320 the recipe says or what the chef says, your turkey 0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:05.719 is done. 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.000 And you know that you know this mic too. About 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:10.759 getting the temperature right on meat is like, I have 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.239 a it's called a meter thermometer and it's bluetooth and 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.440 it literally says, okay, what are you cooking? I'm cooking beef? Okay, 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.080 what kind of what cut of beef? Put the cut 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.439 in there? 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:18.880 Uh? 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.680 What temperature? Boom and automatically does it tells you when 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:23.759 it's done and you pull it off. It's amazing. Yeah, 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:24.160 you could. 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.080 You could get those and use them in your your 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:28.760 oven at home or if you have a smoker. 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:29.239 I get that. 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:29.520 Yeah. 0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.359 Yeah, you get to the smoker too, right, a smoker too, 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.080 and you've got a wireless bluetooth that's sitting outside. 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:35.920 Yeah, and I know when it hits temp and you know, 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.920 it alerts me and it's pull it off and it 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.239 never misses. Then the thermopen is what chefs us. It's 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.239 a fold it up. They're pretty cheap too, and it's 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.520 a good investment. And you get an instant read thermometer. 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.360 It's pretty easy that way. Make sure you're it's food safety. 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.640 But it's also who wants to ruin because let's face it, 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.800 food coasts are pretty expensive these days. You want you 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:52.680 don't want to screw. 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.360 It up right and the turkeys. If the turkey is 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.200 the main course, you need to be right on it. 0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.600 Yeah, yeah, all right, Well again, congratulations on the opening. 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.399 I can't wait to get in there at some point here, 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.800 and that's gonna happen probably one of these days, because 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.319 I'm doing Thanksgiving this year and get ready to cook. 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.000 I'm gonna stop by Dorothy Lane Market and Mason if 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.000 you're looking for sides, they're ready to go, or you 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.719 do the whole dinner and they're still available to the 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.800 fresh turkeys and more. But thanks for coming in today 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.279 and it's awfully nice to meet both of you and 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:19.880 appreciate it. It's our pleasure. 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:20.280 Thankes. 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.239 Care all right, Scott Slone Show. We got to get 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.160 a news update in just minutes. I'm hungry. Time to 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:29.919 eat here seven hundred WW helping you put the big 0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:36.520 P in profession. Here's our career, sirpa. Julie Bouki, Yes 0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.480 she is, and she's here now. I'm the Scott Sloane 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:43.560 Show on seven hundred W LW. She's off last week 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.320 and jumps back in the fray this morning, rested and 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.120 ready to go. Julie my dear, how are you? 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:50.560 I'm fine, how are you? 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.759 What are you laughing about? That wasn't funny. That was 0:51:52.800 --> 0:52:00.560 a serious compliment. Rested, that's I don't know, So we 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:04.400 have an issue. This is interesting. These corporate CEOs are 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.320 kind of pushing back a little bit. Here Ford Motors 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:13.160 Jim Farley was pretty candid about some criticism. You're set 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.600 this up? Tell what is this about? And what did 0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.120 he say that was so controversial? 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:22.640 Yeah, So he was talking about their challenge in how 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.600 do I how do we continue to produce that we 0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:28.200 need to produce when we don't have the talent to 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.439 do it? And I thought there was just so many 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:35.719 interesting things that in here. And one is that you 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:40.000 know what we thought, we're looking to find mechanics. We 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:45.200 have five thousand openings and they pay one hundred and 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.719 twenty thousand dollars a year, like wow, And so that 0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:51.000 we've talked. 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:51.600 About as many times. 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.680 But I think what's interesting is we still are seeing 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:58.360 this gap. And he said, we can't keep up with demand. 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:02.239 We can't grow unless we have the talent, and we 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.520 do not have the talent. We do not have people 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:07.640 who want these shocks. We do not have people who 0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.160 are ready for these jobs, who have the skills for 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:13.359 these jobs. And when we talk about we're getting all 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.160 kinds of mixed messages from all over the place. We 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.400 don't have the talent here, we have too much talent here. 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.640 But it depends on what jobs you're talking about. 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:21.480 Interesting. 0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:22.960 I love some of the staffs in this if. I 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:27.719 so fascinating. The first ten months of last year, one 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.040 hundred and fourteen thousand dollars, fourteen thousand Americans in their 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:36.839 twenties completed vocational programs compared to one point two four 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:41.080 million who graduated from four year colleges and four hundred 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.719 and five thousands who received advanced degree. So you can 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:49.360 see the demand and supply are way way way out of. 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.359 Balance, and there's just not enough. 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:55.000 At least at this point, there's not enough still buildings, 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:57.440 there are enough people interested, or they're earn enough of 0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.560 those programs that are out there actively recruiting write people 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:03.880 to prepare them for these jobs. I anticipate that Ford 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:08.319 is either looking at or will look out creating an 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.080 the hired training program. They may already have one that 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:12.560 they don't want more people into it. 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.360 Well, I know people in like the HVAC industry and 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:20.319 Johnson's supply. They have their own HVAC school that they 0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.040 pay for and then they eventually as soon as you 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.680 graduate in six to eight weeks, you move on and 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.680 you've got a job with one of their contractors. And 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.160 so many companies are doing that where they're it's like, listen, 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.200 we have missed the mark. It's all about college education. 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.680 It's the most important thing. And we have to do 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.920 our own training and train up young people to go 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:43.080 into these jobs. And one hundred and fourteen thousand Americans 0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:46.200 in their twenties completed vocational programs and that is about 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.759 ten times less than what we need. And I think 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.080 it's set up this way, Julie, because for years and 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:52.880 a year I look at the system the way it is, 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.759 in the bias it's built into this. Then this is 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.239 the way it is. If you're an educator, all right, 0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:58.960 and you want to make more money as a teacher 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.000 and eventually in a few years become an administrator, So 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.520 we have this whole administrative class in our schools. You 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.680 have to go and get another degree and more so 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.399 you keep going back to school and then talk about 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.160 how much money you don't make because there's so many 0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.440 teachers because it's a blind demand istion. I'm not grapping 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:19.000 on teachers. We need them, they're so formative. I understand that. 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.239 But I'm talking about the economic model here. And so 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:24.240 if that is your steady died of college grad school, 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.680 master's degree, doctorate, you think the only way to more 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.719 money is more education, and that would be at a university. 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.799 And so you tend to be biased and say, well, 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:34.840 if you want to make something in your life, you 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.400 got to go to college. And we have misserved the 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.560 youth of America now for several generations with that mindset. 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:43.640 And we took shop out of school, and there are 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.640 budget cuts, and we took all these things out because 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.600 they're expensive, but those were the that's the form of 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.600 training that reaches so many people. And I have often 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.960 lamented that, you wonder how many kids, how many millions 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.560 of young people, their lives didn't go out as planned 0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.520 or certainly they didn't hit the expectations they have or 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.440 never achieved the success it was imminent for them because 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.600 they were never exposed to the stuff in the first place. 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.320 And not only do they lose, but we lose because 0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.000 we don't have enough people in the class go up 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.759 tremendously in the wait times, and we have a we 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.680 still have a need to build things in this country 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:16.880 that haven't been satisfied because of this whole model. 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:20.960 Yeah, and we have been. This has been going on 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.600 for decades and so it's really hard to turn this 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:27.920 around on a dime. But the model, or the belief 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:32.040 that's been really imprinted on us is college is the 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:33.440 way to success. 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:35.439 College is the only way. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:39.200 If you're smart and you bunt and you want success, well, 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:42.120 that depends. It depends what you want to do. If 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:45.040 you want to build bridges, gets, please get a college education. 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.480 If you want to be a doctor, test lease. But 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:51.040 we've taken this the idea that it's the only way 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.040 to be successful, and we have wrapped it around the 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:59.360 entire education system, from parents to high school to colleges. 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.520 And what's now being very much exposed is that the 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:08.000 high school, the high school education system, and a post 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:13.280 high school education system have not kept up with their responsibility, 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:16.200 which is to be responsive to what the market demands. 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:20.960 No wonder having a college education is seen as you know, 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:22.720 if it's an eye roll for a lot of people, 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:26.320 don't care you go to Harvard and major in philosophy. 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.600 Good for you, but so what versus having that be ooh, 0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:33.120 you're so smart, you've got a career successful. We have 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.800 to change our thinking. That has to start with how 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:43.040 we as a parents view what's preparing our kids for success. 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:47.600 Looks like you can't high school done, check off college, 0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:49.720 check up box. They're out okay, but bye. 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.040 You know now you're out on your own. 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:54.240 Now you figure it out. That's why juniors in your basement. 0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.160 Julie Bouchie our career Shirp on the Sconsolon Show on 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:02.120 seven hundred w LW Truth to Power right there, for sure, 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:06.840 we need more people going to vocational programs. And you 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:10.000 know we have subsidies for college and graduate education, so 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.200 you keep going. It's the government's making money. They make 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:15.640 sure that they get their money back because they're federally 0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:18.760 subsidized now. And it's a vicious cycle. But it's our 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:20.840 own detriment too. And when you have the CEO of 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:24.800 Ford Motor Company saying, listen, we've got a lift to 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:26.320 bay with a lift and tools and no one to 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.240 work in it. We don't have trade schools in this country. 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:33.200 He's right, there's few, and there's more coming online right now, 0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.840 but there's such a backlog in need that it can't 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.040 do it fast enough right now. So if you're a parent, 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:40.960 can consider that maybe your kid isn't going to succeed 0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:42.880 in the academic world and it be college. It doesn't 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:44.800 mean they're a failure. It doesn't mean it's reflection and 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:46.640 you as a bad parent, you didn't do your job, 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.200 that your kid is not going to be successful in life. 0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:51.680 To the contrary, it just maybe they're good at something 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.560 different and that would be more tactile and more hands 0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.080 on that it is academic, and there's nothing wrong with that, 0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:01.040 but we have vilified that type of fashion for so long. 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:04.160 It's become part of our DNA here in America, and 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.880 if we don't change it, which I think we're trying to, 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:09.560 and I think we're making some inroads here, it's to 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.080 our own detriment too, because we were at about certainly 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.560 the stems and gifted students and competing with the Chinese 0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:16.280 and the rest of the world. We'll have that and 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.200 continue to churn out the best and the brightest. But 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.400 the thought that somehow if you don't have a four 0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:24.600 year degree from somewhere that you are a lesser individual. 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.400 That attitude has got to stop because it's wrong and all. 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.200 It's punching down, but on top of that, it's really 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.720 destroying our country because at the end of the day, 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:35.600 you still need people to fix and build stuff and 0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.360 God blessed trades people because they go look down on 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:40.520 but their hands are clean. Their hands might be dirty, 0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:43.560 but their money's clean. I've seen that phrase used often. 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.080 Julie Balki our career ship on the Scotsland Show on 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.240 seven hundred ww sheen er team ready to consult you 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:52.400 about maybe a midlife career change or maybe you're starting 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:55.720 out and anywhere in between at Thebalukigroup dot com. That's 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.680 b a uk E. It's Julie on the job every 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:00.800 Wednesday morning on the Scotts Slow Show. B Well, we'll 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.720 talk next week or not we won't. Actually it's the hob. 1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:05.400 I'll be off next Wednesday, so you and Ja have 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:08.439 a great Thanksgiving rest up and then we'll be ready 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:09.440 to go in two weeks. How's that? 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:10.120 Ye? 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:12.800 Well, all right, all the best, Thanks again, Julie Buki 1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:14.480 on the job here in the Scott's Loan Show seven 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.960 hundred w with them. Yeah, I think get a chance 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:18.880 to check during the break here who should have But 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.120 how ticket sales are for a Friday night at pay 1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:25.000 corps it's elder and Saint X. Is getting any bigger 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.960 than that, I don't think it does. About fifty five 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.720 minutes ago, some twenty thousand tickets were put on the 1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.880 market at that website, at the OHSAA website. That's the 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:38.160 only place to get them because simply seven thousand seats 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:39.680 at Mason was not going to get it done for 1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:41.600 this and so moving it to pay Corps. I got 1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:44.480 to give the Bengals credit because I often criticize the Bengals, 1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:48.000 but I'm fair and I will give ups when and 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:51.200 props to people when they do stuff like the Bengals 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:53.600 did to get this thing fast tracked. That's great because, 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.440 as you know, the taxpayers of Amlin County were all 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.120 paying for this in some way, shape or form of 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:00.880 sales taxes. I don't have to tie if you owned 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.440 property in Hamilton County how hard it is for you. 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.240 But we often talk about how bad that deal was 1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:09.320 and how one sided seems things seem to be for 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.840 the team, but the fact that they were will to 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:13.960 get this done in less than twenty four hours. I 1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:15.880 give them full credit for this, and it's awesome. We 1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.360 need more of this stuff because it is a county 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:21.400 owned facility and when you have two teams like this 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:23.600 looking for a big venue. I'm glad that the Bengal 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:25.640 stepped up and said, let's get this done. We're excited 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:27.840 for We're actually excited for this, and we're going to 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.640 work really hard behind the scenes to accommodate the students 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:33.240 to student athletes from elder and say nex which is 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:35.640 you want to hear. And so I'm not sure our 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.000 ticket sales are. I'm to imagine those twenty thousand go 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:41.080 pretty quickly. But I know the weather's not going to 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:43.360 be supportive. But you know what, You put a garbage 1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:45.800 bag on, a poncho, some rain gear and you sit 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:47.600 out and you're tough enough. Because the players are going 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:48.800 to have the time of their life. And that's the 1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:51.880 coolest part about this is watching these young men get 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:55.480 to play on an NFL field. That's something they can 1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:57.840 remember the regardless of the outcome. That's something you're going 1:01:57.880 --> 1:01:59.720 to remember the rest of your life. And so that's 1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:01.160 going on right now. First part of the show. I 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.080 had Tom Gamble on. Yes, that Tom Gambler, Boy Gamble, 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:07.560 formerly the two Angry Guy CEO of In Game Sports 1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:09.880 All the commissioner by the way of the GCL South, 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:12.920 that'd be Elder and st X and super excited to 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.040 have this. But we're talking about the NIL stuff that's 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:18.440 going to be settled this week as we're talking Ohio 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:23.800 school principles. As members of the Ohio High School Athletic Association, 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:28.880 they're voting right now. They're taking a poll a straw pole, 1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:32.720 if you will, of principles on NIL. As you may recall, 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:36.120 in twenty twenty two, they said, no, we're not doing this, 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:39.400 we shouldn't pay student athletes. Along came a young man 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.680 out of Dayton that changed this whole thing, by the 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:43.400 name of Jamior Brown. He's only, by the way, as 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.320 a sophomore, he only put up one thousand yards receiving 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:49.080 and fifteen touchdowns. That's all. He's already committed to the 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:52.120 Ohio State University for twenty twenty seven. Maybe because he 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:55.280 couldn't get to UC, I'm not quite sure, but that 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:57.720 kind of forced our hand at this thing. I don't know, 1:02:57.760 --> 1:03:01.040 I look at college I like, to me, if you're 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:05.000 a teenager, should you keep your amateur status for some 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.960 sort of I don't know, kind of remnant of years past, 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.320 the quaintness of being Well, you're a student athlete, and 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.200 it's just it's just so pure. 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:15.280 Okay. 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:19.600 Well, everyone around you, the schools, the coaches, the trainers, 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.520 the booster, everyone makes money off of that performance on 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:27.800 the field. And so to me, it is simply an 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:31.560 American to not allow someone to use their name, image 1:03:31.560 --> 1:03:36.040 and likeness to enrich themselves. And well, they're amateur status 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:39.040 in the administrators, and that's something the ministrators say, you know, 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:42.440 it should be educational, it should be Well then okay, well, 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:45.280 why are we hiring coaches like at one hundred thousand 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.240 dollars a year for high school? Why are media companies 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:50.920 making money off this? Why are apparel brands working money office. 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:54.480 I'm watching kids with under armored jerseys, Nike with Adidas, right, 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:57.240 your high school kid and the schools get money for that, 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:00.880 the eighties getting everyone's making money off them except the 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:06.840 person who's performing. And it's certainly it's an uncomfortable space 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:11.480 between education and commercial enterprise. But there's a contradiction there, 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:14.040 and this is really folks that jar way open right now. 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:19.680 And the responses from the principled principles, it's it's like 1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:23.280 damage controls what it is. It's just their arguments make 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:26.439 no sense whatsoever. And one of them was about, well, 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:32.600 you know, it's one of the being a musician. You know, 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:34.800 these are like, well, okay, you could be a musician 1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:39.840 and perform and still yeah, but it's like a weird 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:43.600 argument that that's their justifications why athletes can etern money 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:45.920 like musicians are artists or actors in high school. It's 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:50.880 they argument undermines that that position. If I'm talented and 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:52.880 can go being a band and make money and go 1:04:52.960 --> 1:04:55.120 to school, I can probably quit school. But I can 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:58.920 go do that, Like how is this any different? And 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:00.880 the aspect that you're not to be able to you know, 1:05:01.040 --> 1:05:03.160 use the image of the school or the school like 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.560 I don't know, that seems to hurt the school. So 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:09.120 hopefully they sort this thing out. And because we're like 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:11.280 one of six states now that are left that don't 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:13.520 have a plan, and you gotta have a plan otherwise 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:15.000 the market will figure it out for you, and that's 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:17.720 not good. We'll go to a news update very latest 1:05:17.920 --> 1:05:19.959 weather is obviously concern too, a little bit of break 1:05:20.000 --> 1:05:22.720 from the rain, but that's coming back in quick fashion. 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:25.520 Jeff Kramerding is here next, speaking of the Bengals. This 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:28.520 banks project is going on. This, this is where the 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:32.160 city wants to move forward like yesterday, on finishing the banks, 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:35.880 and the county is saying, we don't have the budget, 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:39.280 the buildings are too tall, and a ferris wheel will 1:05:39.360 --> 1:05:43.960 disparage the Freedom Center. What this is the problem we 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:47.120 have city and county government get around. Honestly, they get 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:52.920 along like Israel and Hamas. For God's sakes, figure it out. 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:58.520 Seven hundred WW Cincinnati don't want to be got slowed down. 1:05:58.560 --> 1:06:01.840 Seven hundred WLW. We have a plan after twenty years. 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:04.920 We've got a plan to finish the banks in the 1:06:05.040 --> 1:06:07.480 upwards of seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred million 1:06:07.560 --> 1:06:09.960 dollars in redevelopment of the five remaining lots of the 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:12.480 banks over the next fifteen years. So if you're a 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:15.440 big fan of those concrete pillars that are sitting there, 1:06:15.520 --> 1:06:18.240 those peers as we call them, guess what they're going 1:06:18.320 --> 1:06:20.360 to get covered And over the next fifteen years we'll 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:23.640 see it's gonna be luxury and market rate residential plus 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:27.680 retail hotel, maybe some office space in there. But what's 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:31.040 interesting is the county's reaction to this versus the cities 1:06:31.120 --> 1:06:33.840 reaction to this. And joining the show this morning is 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:36.760 council Member jeff Cramerton, who sits on the infrastructure and 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:39.960 building and committees like that, so the appropriate guy to 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:42.520 talk to in a situation like this. Jeffrey, welcome, How are. 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:45.720 You very well? It's great to be here. 1:06:45.920 --> 1:06:46.200 Thank you. 1:06:46.880 --> 1:06:49.680 Before we begin, I know that you are passionately ready 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:53.840 for Friday night at not the high school football field 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:56.960 at Mason, home of the Commets, but rather Paycorp home 1:06:57.000 --> 1:06:59.680 of the Bengals. Because you're a proud set You're a 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:01.120 proud St X guy, right. 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:06.680 No, sir, I am a proud elder pH Yeah, pride 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:09.440 of Prate till the pride of Prate still. 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:10.960 Yeah. 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:13.200 But don't don't you ever a Do you have a 1:07:13.320 --> 1:07:14.640 nephew that plays for Saint X. 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:19.360 Yeah, so you've divided loyalties of Crambering family. We will 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:22.720 be there utting on the Elder Panthers to victory, but 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:26.000 all cheering for my nephew and Jus and Andrew who's 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:29.520 the starting left tackle between ex bombers. 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:32.280 Now, you're not gonna wear one of those tire jerseys. 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:34.160 It's half Saint X half the Elder, are you. 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:37.880 I will not be doing that. I'll be wearing my 1:07:38.080 --> 1:07:40.160 I'll be wearing my. My purple had a boy. 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:44.480 A boy had a boy. And hopefully the trader has 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:47.720 not that great a game, but an okay game anyway, Uh, creamy, 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:50.800 And let's get into this. It's been twenty years since 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.280 we've got this. We're finally now talking about the next 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.600 fifteen years. I that just makes my head hurt, considering 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:58.360 the gift that we had, which are the two stadia 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:01.080 downtown and all that space in order to get people 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:03.520 down there. And this thing has been plotting along and 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:05.439 the reason is well, one of the reasons, of course, 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:07.640 is the city and the county. And I'll point this 1:08:07.720 --> 1:08:10.240 out before get to the details of what this buildout 1:08:10.360 --> 1:08:13.080 is going to be. Hamlet County Commissioner Lisia Rees said, 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:17.080 we're kind of broke right now. Denise treet Hoouse concerns 1:08:17.120 --> 1:08:19.960 over the height of this thing, and other commissioners just 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:22.320 don't see it even on the radar right now. Meanwhile, 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:24.479 those of you a council want to move forward like 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:28.719 yesterday on this project. So the time and the money 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:32.000 council is on it. Commissioners don't want this. You guys 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:35.479 are excited there now. Can you explain and maybe help 1:08:35.600 --> 1:08:38.760 us understand the difference and enthusiasm between the county and 1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:39.240 the city. 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:43.920 Yeah, I mean, I really can't speak for the County commission. 1:08:44.080 --> 1:08:47.439 I don't know why. There is no answer you. The 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:50.760 city of Cincinnati is growing. We're excited about that. We're 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:54.840 leading the nation and concuting office buildings, residential. There's a 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:58.600 tremendous demand. I mean, we've talked about this. We know 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:01.519 that new bill. It is necessary to meet the demand 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:03.960 for downtown. Thanks is a great place to do it. 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:07.040 So we're growing the city, we're growing the economy. This 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:09.080 council is bullish on it. We want to get done. 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:13.120 The height of this thing, it'd be up to twenty 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:16.280 four stories to make it financially viable. But Denie Street 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:20.920 House Commissioned President worries about blocking daylight. And your colleague 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:23.040 and our good friend on the show, Seth Walsh, wants 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:25.280 even taller buildings. Said, well, let's let's you know, we're 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:28.080 a downtown. It's a big city. Let's scrape the sky here, 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:32.160 you know, and now we're talking it feels almost like 1:09:32.840 --> 1:09:35.880 what like they are in the Hyde Park discussion all 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:36.519 over again here. 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:41.559 Yeah, it just feel like that. Definitely some similar things. 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:43.840 I mean, the more people the better, especially for an 1:09:43.920 --> 1:09:46.360 entertainment district like the Bank, so you have more people 1:09:46.400 --> 1:09:49.599 in there to fuel the restaurants, to fuel the retail. 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:52.360 You know, we need more people. A couple of the 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:56.719 buildings are most for twenty four stories. Most are under eleven. 1:09:57.400 --> 1:10:00.760 So to me, this is not very controversial. We need 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:04.000 to get moving forward in the critical discussions over the 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:06.000 next couple of weeks or you know, how are we 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:08.439 going to fund this? So I hope we can find 1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:12.760 a situation where we can partner with the county and 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:15.400 to the extent that this is not a priority for them, 1:10:15.479 --> 1:10:17.200 you know, have the city run with it. 1:10:17.720 --> 1:10:19.559 Here's the shot that's gonna hurt. This is gonna hurt 1:10:19.600 --> 1:10:23.200 because we're talking about some luxury housing up there as 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:26.559 well as market rate. Nothing about affordable housing. We'll get 1:10:26.560 --> 1:10:29.880 to that in just a second. But essentially someone's going 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:32.720 to go, look, why are we giving taxpayer money to 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:35.160 subsidize luxury housing. Is that a fair question? 1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:40.839 Yeah, I mean, as I said, there's a demand for downpath, 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:43.200 but building a place like the Banks, you know, is 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:46.200 going to take some subsidies. That a tax abatement, is 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:48.920 that the use of our down tip funds which we 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:51.880 use for development. You know, what does that look like? 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:55.680 Those details are critically important. As I pointed out, that 1:10:55.840 --> 1:10:57.760 was not part of the conversation yesterday. We were just 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:00.160 talking about planning and the vision. The money. He is 1:11:00.160 --> 1:11:02.960 always important to make these things happen. That's the critical 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:05.200 conversation that's going to happen right now. 1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:06.760 Where's the affordable housing in US? 1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:10.920 That from my perspective, it's always supplying demand. We need 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:14.479 more house. We don't have enough thousands because we need 1:11:14.560 --> 1:11:16.960 to build housing. If we have enough housing, the market 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:20.320 will take care of itself. So you know, I mean, 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:24.080 especially you're talking about rent restrictions which some people are 1:11:24.120 --> 1:11:26.640 talking about, is you know, a restricting the amount of 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:30.400 rent that makes developments like this harder and it makes 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:34.200 more subside from the taxpayer. So market rates right here, 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:37.040 general market rates we're talking about in the city. We 1:11:37.200 --> 1:11:38.759 just need to build more housing. 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:40.559 Yeah, I mean if you live in a three hundred 1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:42.400 thousand dollars house and you're doing while you're like, well, 1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:44.560 you know, now we can do our dream house and 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:46.639 maybe you move into a one or two million dollar 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.880 place like this and that, But that frees up that 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:52.280 three hundred thousand dollars unit for someone else to get 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:54.439 in and realize their dream. That's how the system works. 1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:57.320 And I understand we need way more affordable housing than 1:11:57.600 --> 1:12:01.519 we have already in the urban areas, but it doesn't 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:04.160 make sense to me to now have a luxury and 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:06.479 market rate and market rates are pretty high for this 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.400 area downtown. I mean, why would you charge somebody six 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:11.479 hundred dollars a month to have the view of the 1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:13.599 river that people willing to pay a couple million dollars 1:12:13.640 --> 1:12:14.599 a art. It doesn't make any sense. 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:19.800 Yeah, And that's the dynamic that we're seen throughout the city. 1:12:19.840 --> 1:12:22.680 You know, there's you know, several there's a lot of 1:12:22.760 --> 1:12:24.599 very hot nabors and people are trying to get into them. 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:28.000 They cancer they're pushing people out, and it's right, it's 1:12:28.680 --> 1:12:31.440 you know, creating high sale prices, higher rents the neighborhoods 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:34.719 surrounding that. So that's why we need more housing throughout 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:35.120 the city. 1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:38.000 Yeah, yeah, and the twenty four stories doesn't seem that 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:40.519 tall quite honestly, considering I mean, yeah, we built the 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:44.120 great American Insurance Tower with the uh you know, I mean, 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:47.080 and I don't remember anyone bitching about that being too hot. 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:54.519 Looks great, That's exactly right. We've got a great park 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:58.960 down there. You know, We've got Central Park in New York, 1:12:59.000 --> 1:13:04.599 Grant Park in Chicago, alter by very tall buildings. It's 1:13:04.640 --> 1:13:06.479 not aesthetic year of those great parts. 1:13:06.760 --> 1:13:08.800 I won't hurt are either, well, right, So we have 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:11.320 a war going on here between the county and the city. 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:14.200 What else is new? Jeff Kramerding is on the show 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:16.599 this morning, representing the City of Cincinnati. Wants to move 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:19.439 forward quickly soon and build it bigger and bigger than 1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:21.479 ever before, bigger and better than ever before, with the 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.760 final phase of the banks over the next fifteen years, 1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:27.839 Whereas Hamlin County commissioners, all three of them, are reluctant 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:31.120 to move forward, and this for various reasons. One of them, though, 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:34.080 and this is a real serious question here, is you 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:37.479 have the Central Riverfront garage there and they're estimating that's 1:13:37.520 --> 1:13:43.240 about thirty million dollars in costs to rebuild us to 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:46.280 redo this, and it is including the development cost. So 1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:48.960 the county's got a review whether they can fund that. 1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:51.840 But if you don't have garage infrastructure down there, doesn't 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:52.679 this whole thing fall apart. 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:56.320 Yeah, you absolutely need to build the garage to build 1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:59.280 the development on top of it. So in the garages 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.559 are also using a lot of revenue. The more development 1:14:02.600 --> 1:14:05.080 we have down there, the more revenue the garages and velved. 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:08.680 So it's a complex puzzle, but you know it's one 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:10.639 that asks me solved to get this movement. 1:14:11.439 --> 1:14:12.800 Well, they're saying they don't have the money. 1:14:14.479 --> 1:14:18.360 Well, you know, budgets are tied everywhere. I talked Abo 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:23.200 about the city's budget many times and concerns about that. 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:26.920 The long term solution is growth, more people paying earning stacks, 1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:30.600 more people think health stacks. So we're focusing on how 1:14:30.840 --> 1:14:33.040 to grow of the city is important. It said that 1:14:33.160 --> 1:14:36.840 the banks has always been a critical portion of this 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:39.240 region's gross for twenty five years now and we're still 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:42.439 talking about we're still in the planning stage is a 1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:46.200 lot of these lots. So that's very frustrating and we 1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:47.400 need to move forward. 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:49.720 One of the hang ups too. And this is kind 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:52.280 of minor. I think it's I don't know, it's kind 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:54.640 of picky you and myself. But Alas Shares, who's on 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:58.240 the show the other day, said that she's not happy 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:00.840 with that ferris wheel or proposing put a permanent ferris 1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:03.439 wheel downtown in front of the right behind the National 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:06.000 Underground Railroad Freedom Center, so where they sing the Queen 1:15:06.080 --> 1:15:08.720 City sign is that to get pulled out and you 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:11.280 put a ferris wheel there, And she says that's disrespectful. 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:13.800 I don't know. That seems like that seems like a 1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:16.000 stretch to me. You know, there's plenty of stuff around that. 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:18.840 There's bars, there's restaurants, you have street vessels and the like. 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:22.599 I understand the significance of that museum, but that ferris 1:15:22.640 --> 1:15:23.639 wheel is pretty far away. 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:24.920 Yeah. 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:28.280 I like the ferris wheel. I like attractions. I like 1:15:28.400 --> 1:15:34.120 things that are going to you know, bring families, your 1:15:34.160 --> 1:15:36.400 families time of a bank. So yeah, I like the 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:38.960 ferris wheel. I don't be a problem with location. It 1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:42.400 seems like it was successful and we had the test pilot, 1:15:42.479 --> 1:15:45.360 so I have no problem with that being part of 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:49.200 this equation. And you know, I think other attractions as 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:49.920 well would be great. 1:15:50.160 --> 1:15:50.360 Yeah. 1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:51.880 And I think as a parent, if you bring your 1:15:51.960 --> 1:15:55.080 kid to the National Underground Railroad Free Center, the Freedom 1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:57.760 Center in the Railroad Museum, I think it's one of 1:15:57.760 --> 1:15:58.920 the things we were a kid. You don't want to 1:15:58.960 --> 1:16:01.519 go because you think it's stupid because you're a kid 1:16:01.880 --> 1:16:04.080 and you don't realize the significance of this and what 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:06.680 you're seeing, especially if you're a person of color, it 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:09.439 means a lot more. But at the same time, you go, hey, listen, 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:10.880 you know what if you don't act like a fool 1:16:10.880 --> 1:16:12.960 inside the museum and act right, well, well you can 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:14.519 ride the Ferris wheil when you're done. Seems like a 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:17.040 good a good carrot to dangle in front of kids 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:17.639 that want. 1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:22.680 To do that, right, got the hair cell down there, 1:16:22.720 --> 1:16:24.639 all right, Right, that's a great track. 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:26.120 Well that's where you want if you want them next year. 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:27.880 And it's across the street too, So I think now 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:30.360 we're just looking for stuff to reasons to go. I 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:34.599 don't like it. Jeff kramerding As far as this build 1:16:34.600 --> 1:16:37.400 out goes, it's going to be a high rise residential retail. 1:16:37.479 --> 1:16:40.400 The parking thing's got to sort that out. Maybe office 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:43.519 in there as well too. But the hotel element. Uh, 1:16:43.600 --> 1:16:45.840 there's concerns saying now we have too many hotels. Is 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:46.240 that true? 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.879 Yeah, no, we are. We've built a tremendous number of hotels. 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:54.840 That's one I've I always ask our experts. I've asked 1:16:54.960 --> 1:16:58.920 a three c DC many times and continue to have 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:03.000 to get in. I am told and presumably these hotels 1:17:03.000 --> 1:17:04.920 are building these that the need is still there. So 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:08.560 I think that's a great sign for how robust development 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:11.880 and how much vibrancy is is around downtown. So, yes, 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:15.760 we have built a lot. I have always concerns we 1:17:15.800 --> 1:17:20.600 don't want overbuild and have vacant hotels, but we're not 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:22.360 seeing that in the fact that these hotels are so 1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:25.800 interested it's important. And of course that location really does 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:29.439 make sense right between the two stadiums. You know, we're 1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:33.400 competing with other cities for the Behaflis Pittsburgh. You know 1:17:33.479 --> 1:17:35.639 there's people from out the region. We want to draw 1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:38.040 them in for the Reds and banking games. But also 1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:40.200 you know a team and you know people go on 1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:41.840 the road to watch their team and they decide which 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:43.080 to say they want to go to. And having a 1:17:43.160 --> 1:17:45.919 hotel right there by the state. Let's get to Cincinnati 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:47.600 for a weekend and watch the Colts or whatever the 1:17:47.640 --> 1:17:51.559 team is. So that's great we get from out of town. 1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:52.000 That's just. 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:55.840 Straight money in the banks of the City of Cincinnati 1:17:56.160 --> 1:17:57.040 and Hamilton County. 1:17:57.880 --> 1:17:59.800 Yeah, I mean, the market dictates, if you need to 1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:03.280 tell or not. I always hate when politicians, especially decide 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:05.479 what the market needs. Now, the market needs what it needs. 1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:09.600 You know, we have a historic building across from you know, 1:18:09.640 --> 1:18:12.439 the Cincinnati Hotel, for example, and you know that was 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:14.400 beautiful back in the day when it was designed. But 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:16.320 it's been an I store for a long time and 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:18.439 they're finally redoing it and going to make it something else. 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:23.040 So it's not like these projects when they've surpassed their 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.240 useful life, don't get converted into something else. It's downtown space. 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:29.840 It's certainly not going to happen overnight. The other part 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:32.080 of this, too is I was reading something that they 1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:34.519 did one of those cost benefit analysis or the economic 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.200 impact from the banks has been about two billion dollars 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:39.360 over the year. But I heard that one Oh okay, 1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:41.680 well two billion dollars. That's a great economic impact. But 1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:44.240 on the other side of your mouth, you're going, well, 1:18:44.400 --> 1:18:46.920 it's been they've been treading water for like twenty years, 1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:48.920 and now we need hundreds of millions of dollars in 1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:52.519 public subsidy to finish this thing. We've got to give 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:56.559 some subsidy to the luxury condo and apartment owners over there, 1:18:56.640 --> 1:18:59.760 and the market rate housing and everything else. And so 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:02.479 what's the actual return on investmers for taxpayers? Are we 1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:05.160 are we subsidizing private developers and team owners or is 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:08.920 this generally the best practice? I mean, if if there's 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:11.400 a two billion dollar economic impact, how could we be 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:12.479 treading water for twenty years? 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:16.559 Yeah, when it comes to the the financials, now we're 1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:19.080 going to build, that's critical. And again you know we 1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:21.680 were not we were not in those details yesterday. I 1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:24.639 think over the next couple of weeks and months that's 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:27.439 going to be critically important. And what types of incentives 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:29.760 are we talking I mean, are we talking about, uh, 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:32.280 the tax debatement for sex number of years? Are we 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:35.000 talking about from sort of TIFFs, the development back into 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:39.840 the tanks, tun from more developments? The financial details? Uh 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:43.160 was not. We're not there yesterday. That something you know, 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:46.479 I questioned, and and to me, that's the critical part 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:48.840 of it, and we talked about building the partnership with 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:52.080 the county. Uh, those details and what that structure is 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:53.560 going to look like and how are we at this 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:58.960 moving is important. So uh, that was not yesterday. Yesterday 1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:02.559 was about you know, Banning and the Vision Council. We're 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.320 very excitted about it, but you know, now it's time 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:07.800 to get down to work and hammered out coming over 1:20:07.800 --> 1:20:10.880 with the deal that is beneficial to the city and taxpayers. 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:12.840 And then now all point out too. It took twenty 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:15.479 years because of that awful Bengals lease we had wouldn't 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:17.240 allow us to build anything over the size of a 1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:19.519 bag house or crying out loud, and finally we got 1:20:19.560 --> 1:20:21.360 that blown up and move in the right direction, which 1:20:21.400 --> 1:20:23.639 is why now you have twenty years ago you could 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:25.599 add all this stuff down there, and it's been sitting 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:28.280 vacant and empty, and it looks ridiculous when you go 1:20:28.360 --> 1:20:30.120 through the parking lot down there in the garage and 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:33.920 see all these concrete pillars and piers sticking out of 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:36.240 the ground. It's just you look, you look at it 1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:38.160 and you go, this doesn't make any sense because it's 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:40.040 not like it was five it's been two decades. 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:44.600 Yeah, it's unfortunate that we keep coming back to that 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:47.240 sales tax increase, because yeah, there was the terms of 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:51.360 the lease, but when voters passed that in nineteen ninety six, 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:55.320 they were, from my perspective, promise, you know, two stadiums 1:20:55.439 --> 1:20:58.920 in an entertainment district in a marina and uh, you 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:01.120 know when when that when the tax came out, there 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:03.720 was you know, barely enough to stay for the stadium. So, 1:21:03.880 --> 1:21:07.400 I mean taxpayers were frustrated. They thought that was that 1:21:07.520 --> 1:21:11.920 that was the solution, and that was not been I think, 1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:14.120 I know that's been part of the kind of the 1:21:14.240 --> 1:21:17.760 company financial woes, and that's part of where we're at 1:21:17.800 --> 1:21:20.559 twenty five years later. But you know that was twenty 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:22.360 five years ago. We're in the situation that we're in, 1:21:22.479 --> 1:21:23.439 and we move forward. 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:28.400 Yeah, finally, Jeff Kramer ding I look at this and go, well, okay, 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:30.479 eight hundred million dollar bills. I've got a lot going 1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:32.400 on as a final piece of the puzzle for the banks, 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:35.000 and hopefully it just puts everything over the top here. 1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:38.120 But the timeline to get this thing approved for council 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:41.400 anyway and totally excludes what's going on with the county 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.040 as you're trying to get this thing together and when 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:47.280 twenty twenty seven, So just a couple of months and 1:21:47.400 --> 1:21:49.320 vote on the zoning changes and everything else. That's a 1:21:49.360 --> 1:21:50.799 pretty fast and aggressive timeline. 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:53.599 Yeah, that's a thing. 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:53.960 You know. 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:56.439 We've got our we've got some tools that are always 1:21:56.439 --> 1:21:59.560 available towards tax debatment. So our budget has to be 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:03.280 done spring and summer. So if we're talking about a 1:22:03.400 --> 1:22:07.360 financialist from the city, that's our timeline. So I reminded 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:09.760 everything out that yesterday. That's the reason I said that 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:14.360 the hard work has to begin as soon if we're 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:15.080 gonna get this done. 1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:18.679 Jeff Primating on the show this morning on seven hundred 1:22:18.680 --> 1:22:20.800 double that it sounds like a hard to tell, but 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:22.960 a majority of council wants to move forward on this one, 1:22:23.000 --> 1:22:25.040 and you're gonna butt heads with the county commissioners said, 1:22:25.040 --> 1:22:27.479 we're broke and it's not a priority. So we'll see 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:30.120 how this works out. Hopefully we get this thing done 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.160 in short time. Is there going to be negotiations within 1:22:32.240 --> 1:22:34.080 the county and the city on this Are they happening now? 1:22:35.439 --> 1:22:38.320 Yes. The The next step, which we did talk about 1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:42.720 yesterday was meetings between the county administration and the city administration. 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:45.519 I think that's going to begin next week or the 1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:48.360 week after and really talk about, you know what this 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:50.680 structure looks like, ideally would be looking at, you know, 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:52.920 sort of a ad ominibus agreement. You know what the 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:54.599 county's going to pay for and what the sea's gonna 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:58.880 pay for, and do it across the state. You know, 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:01.800 that's the stretch that you're talking about. You that there 1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:04.320 is lots of which, lots of the priority, Which was 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:06.080 that you do first? And what are those agree it's 1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:08.559 going to look like. I think that's where we're rather 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:09.920 the next couple of weeks. And that's given me the 1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:10.519 difficult part. 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:12.680 All right, Well, hopefully we can get moving forward here, 1:23:12.800 --> 1:23:14.920 find the money and get this thing done. Ferris Wheels, 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:19.680 it's too high, it's too deep, but enough excuses. It's unsightly, 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:21.320 and it gives us a bad look and has been 1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:23.240 giving us a bad look for twenty years. Get this 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:25.760 damn thing done. Jeff, all the best, Thanks again, and 1:23:26.080 --> 1:23:29.479 good luck tomorrow Friday. I guess I should say it 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:33.760 is only Wednesday for fect. I want the weekend now, 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:37.280 damn it be well. Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Got a 1:23:37.320 --> 1:23:40.400 news update and more to follow afterwards. Here on seven 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:42.920 hundred WW. And that's Sarah least snort report on the 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:58.760 way next seven hundred WW. All right, Sarah's here. I'm 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.479 not expecting much to day. She's tired of crabby and 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:02.639 crampy and everything else. 1:24:02.720 --> 1:24:03.240 How you doing? 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:07.479 How did you know about my crampiness? I'm actually in 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:08.559 a really good mood today. 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:08.920 You are? 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.160 Are you just a couple of days away until I'm 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:14.200 offer an entire week from h Look at you? One 1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:17.800 whole week of vacation coming up, baby, we're counting it down. 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:19.559 Are you going to stay off Instagram for a week? 1:24:19.760 --> 1:24:22.640 Hell no, We're not going out far and just got 1:24:22.760 --> 1:24:24.200 to keep creating exactly. 1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:25.160 You know. 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:27.840 I love me my social media. Do we want to 1:24:27.840 --> 1:24:32.120 start with high school football or professional? I got big 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:32.920 news in both. 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.599 Well, let's start with a high school one, because that's 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:38.080 the first and foremost. Here with a snort report with 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:42.000 Sarah Elise. You're on seven hundred WOWS Social Media v 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:46.200 Sports and we have Elder Saint X at pay Corps. Friday, 1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:49.360 I think twenty thousand tickets went on sale early. They're 1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:52.680 all gone how exciting was that? Could they fill it 1:24:52.800 --> 1:24:55.600 up with sixty five k I think they're just I 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:57.600 don't know why they decided twenty to cap it, but. 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:02.000 Maybe and this is what I I'm guessing here, volunteer 1:25:02.080 --> 1:25:05.479 help for the concessions that could be it. That is 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.600 a big stadium to fill up for. 1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:09.080 It would have been cool because I think you could 1:25:09.080 --> 1:25:11.680 filled you got football. 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:15.640 There the next day and night. So yeah, I think 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:17.360 they're going to be setting up early the next day 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.040 for the ten am lives. 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:21.640 Think as you're playing for sane x or Elder and 1:25:21.840 --> 1:25:24.000 you're on the field, how cool is that. 1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:28.799 Yeah, I'm so excited for these kids, their families, the schools, 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:31.360 are city. I feel like this is a big win 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:33.120 all around for really everybody. 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:35.400 And the other thing is, you know, this is easily 1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:37.400 going to be the best football played there since Week 1:25:37.439 --> 1:25:39.640 two exactly. 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:44.800 At least we'll see some winning Cincinnati. But what a 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:48.280 big weekend for Cincinnati sports though. Man, we got all 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:51.800 kind of stuff going on. There's so much to get Yeah. 1:25:51.840 --> 1:25:54.840 So Katie Blackburn is saying that every effort with this 1:25:55.000 --> 1:25:57.400 game on Friday is going to be made to make 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:01.320 sure this is a wonderful experience for students, athletes, their families, 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:04.280 the schools, and the broader community. I mean, this is 1:26:04.320 --> 1:26:06.720 going to bring in so many people. And she goes 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:08.880 on to say the Bengals are thinking everyone for their 1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:11.720 outstanding efforts across the board, so good luck to both tell. 1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:13.600 I was honestly, I gotta give them credit because you 1:26:13.640 --> 1:26:15.920 haveten to hammer them. But I was honestly surprised at 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:18.000 how quickly the Bengals came around said yeah, let's do 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:19.559 very quick. It's very cool. 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:21.519 I feel like this was a talk for This was 1:26:21.560 --> 1:26:23.360 a conversation for what twenty four hours. 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:26.120 In no way, they can't act that fast on anything, 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:27.080 because they did. 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:28.920 It was originally going to be played in Mason with 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:32.760 seven thousand people. Yeah, and everybody missed out. So here 1:26:32.880 --> 1:26:35.439 we go, paycord to the rescue and Friday night it 1:26:35.600 --> 1:26:37.720 is holy Grail says they're going to be showing the 1:26:37.760 --> 1:26:39.799 game so in case you can't make it to the stadium, 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:41.840 they're going to open their doors for that. And I 1:26:41.920 --> 1:26:44.040 believe we're going to have this game on Fox Sports 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:45.519 thirteen sixty. Is that correct? 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:46.080 I believe. 1:26:46.160 --> 1:26:48.280 So there you go. This all came together so quick. 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:50.400 I love it. And then do you know where they 1:26:50.520 --> 1:26:52.840 looking for volunteers to help out with concessions. 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:56.000 They're probably okay with with the boosters from both sides 1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:58.400 people to do that, I think, so yeah, I don't know, yeah, 1:26:58.439 --> 1:27:00.400 but it's going to go on and whether it's not 1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:02.360 looking good, but hey, you're planning a Paycorns. 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:04.640 You're you're these kids are gonna love it rain or 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:06.920 shine playing at Paycor's gonna be so cool coming out 1:27:06.960 --> 1:27:09.000 of that tunnel. And they say they're gonna be parking 1:27:09.080 --> 1:27:12.360 easy to ten bucks for parking down there. So if 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:14.800 you're worried about the high pricing, if way too much 1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:20.280 for westsiders, ten dollars Now I don't know which garage 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:21.280 is the are gonna be ten dollars. 1:27:21.320 --> 1:27:22.880 I don't know if it's for renting a bus. 1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:24.599 Yeah, how that's all going to work out. But they're 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.880 saying ten dollars parking, so the bus good. That's the report. 1:27:28.640 --> 1:27:34.280 Also trending in high school football, TAFT being blamed for 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:38.320 some damage at the Indian Hill locker room. This was 1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:42.080 trending last night, it's trending this morning. Uh, they're being 1:27:42.160 --> 1:27:45.599 accused of damaging the walls from the game lost Friday, 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:48.880 when Taft did not win that one against Indian Hill. 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:49.160 Yeah. 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:50.960 I saw some of the footage and it's it's not 1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:52.519 just a couple holes in the drivable. I mean they 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:55.080 literally look like they're doing it. Looked like property brothers 1:27:55.120 --> 1:27:56.520 are coming in to do a remodel. 1:27:56.800 --> 1:28:00.880 So Indian Hill is saying that Taft caused this damage. However, 1:28:01.080 --> 1:28:03.920 last night doing a deep dive into this whole thing 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:08.559 because I am obsessed with this story. I'm so obsessed. 1:28:08.600 --> 1:28:11.439 You have no idea, Senior investigative sports reporter Sarah Lee. 1:28:11.640 --> 1:28:16.120 Literally, I'm so invested and I want to know everything. 1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:19.160 There was a coach weighing in and he said, hey, 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.639 week six, we were there, the damage was already there. 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:25.240 He goes, I'm a coach. We were there weeks Yeah. 1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:27.720 So it's like, why has this just been sitting one 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:30.479 if that is the case. Also, there is a video 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:34.320 trending online of these kids from Taft coming into the 1:28:34.400 --> 1:28:37.120 locker room about five forty on that Friday night. They've 1:28:37.160 --> 1:28:39.479 got their backpacks and they're all, like, you know, in 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:41.679 their warm up gear. They're not even in their football 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:42.240 unieds yet. 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.280 The sledgehammers, not that. 1:28:45.000 --> 1:28:46.880 And you can see them kind of like walking into 1:28:46.960 --> 1:28:50.280 the visitor locker room space and in the background or 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:53.759 the damaged walls. Really, the damaged walls behind. 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:56.040 This should be pretty easy to corroborate since there are 1:28:56.200 --> 1:28:59.240 no what how many games between week six and now 1:28:59.439 --> 1:29:01.320 that someone go, yeah, we're in that locker rooms. 1:29:01.920 --> 1:29:05.160 This should be solved very quickly by the end of 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:06.000 the day, I hope. 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:09.599 So it would be seems easy to produce evidence to find. 1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:11.720 Out last night this took up my whole feet and 1:29:11.840 --> 1:29:13.960 Taft parents are speaking out there, like, look, my son 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:16.800 plays there. He told us that this damage was there 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:20.000 when they showed up. Really, uh huh, So it's it's 1:29:20.040 --> 1:29:21.439 not like you don't go in the locker room and 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:23.400 clean it. They would know the damage right away. Why 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:25.320 would they wait until Taft was there too? 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:25.960 Yeah? 1:29:26.000 --> 1:29:28.400 Why would they wait until Tuesday to speak out about 1:29:28.400 --> 1:29:31.240 something that allegedly happened on Friday when the two teams 1:29:31.280 --> 1:29:32.760 played each other at Indian Hill. 1:29:33.040 --> 1:29:36.320 Interesting, but I'm again I'm so upsetsed. Weird story. It's 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:39.160 such a weird story because I thought, okay, well. 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:40.720 Well, and it's definitely gotten deep because this. 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:43.640 Taft loss was controversial, fumble goal I scored very much 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:45.920 pissed off and it fits a timeline and it's a 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:47.080 bad election. 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:49.280 On Taft, is you know, with what Indian Hill is 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:51.840 saying that they did. So parents are like, absolutely not, 1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:53.880 that's not what happened. My son is telling me that 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:56.560 the damage was already there. And if you see the 1:29:56.640 --> 1:29:59.840 social media video, it's trending everywhere all of our Facebook, X, 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:02.840 Instagram and and now the news articles are picking it up. 1:30:02.920 --> 1:30:07.439 It's you see the wall, the damaged walls behind the kids. 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:11.000 So I stand with Taft on this one as of 1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:13.640 right now, that's how I stand with. I stand with 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:15.679 tot how's my support? 1:30:15.800 --> 1:30:16.080 Okay? 1:30:16.439 --> 1:30:18.519 Well, based off of what parents are saying, what the 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:21.400 coaches are saying, what the social media video shows, right, 1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:23.639 it shows that Taft is innocent. 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:26.720 So if Taff I'm guilty and they proclaim innocence here, 1:30:26.880 --> 1:30:28.200 then that's an even bigger. 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.519 We're going to have another, uh you know conversation. 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:32.519 Many people want to go play at Taft because of 1:30:32.560 --> 1:30:35.559 what happens in the extra early right, and now if 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.840 they're if they do this on the road, how many 1:30:37.880 --> 1:30:39.160 teams are going to want to play taft. 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:43.040 Based off of what I saw, it looks like they're 1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:44.560 innocent in this situation. 1:30:44.800 --> 1:30:46.479 But you better hope that's the case. If not that, 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:48.800 I truly hope it's the case. I want to believe 1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:51.120 Indian he'll make that. It doesn't make any sense. 1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:52.080 And also like who did this? 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:54.840 Who caused the damage to the law and in what 1:30:55.120 --> 1:30:55.599 twelve weeks? 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:59.840 Yes, but yeah, especially if your coach is speaking out 1:30:59.880 --> 1:31:01.360 like okay, we were there week six and it was 1:31:01.400 --> 1:31:03.800 already it was already like yeah, which they played? 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:04.400 Which did they? 1:31:05.120 --> 1:31:05.280 Yeah? 1:31:05.360 --> 1:31:07.880 Again? This should be very easy to solve. And people 1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:10.280 are asking for cameras from the locker room. It's like, well, 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:12.479 you can't have that up there because dudes are you know, 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.120 changing getting into their uniform, so you can't do that. 1:31:15.439 --> 1:31:16.840 All right, But this looked like it was just a 1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:18.719 taking off of a cell phone, like the guys coming 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:20.800 in and it just the time stamp on It was 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:22.160 five forty three pm. 1:31:22.000 --> 1:31:24.479 So slowly with Keith Morrison in the start report this 1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:25.120 morning here at. 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:29.400 Seven, Like I said, I was watching Dancing with the 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:32.040 Stars last night, but this grabbed my attention so quick. 1:31:32.040 --> 1:31:33.800 I'm like, I have no idea what's going on dancing 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:36.080 with the stars, because now I'm very much focused on 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:38.400 these two teams right here, and what the drama is. 1:31:38.920 --> 1:31:40.880 There no dust on the hands of the player? Wooh 1:31:43.000 --> 1:31:45.960 so oh that peske crowbar? All right? What else is 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:46.240 going on? 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:50.240 Also trending with our Cincinnati Bengals. Yesterday, no practice. They're 1:31:50.240 --> 1:31:52.400 getting back to it today, but they did announce that 1:31:52.640 --> 1:31:56.080 I Show Speed is the ruler of the jungle for 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:58.880 this Sunday when they host the Patriots, the hottest team 1:31:58.920 --> 1:31:59.439 in football. 1:32:00.439 --> 1:32:03.439 I also had to look up this guy because I 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:06.000 was like, Iso Speed, what is show See gamer? 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:10.559 He's a gamer. He's got forty four million followers on TikTok. 1:32:10.680 --> 1:32:11.559 I knew that, you didn't. 1:32:11.800 --> 1:32:15.360 He's from Cincinnati, he's only twenty years old, graduated from 1:32:15.400 --> 1:32:19.559 Purcell Marion and people love this guy. But can he tackle? 1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:21.720 Can he suit up? 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:23.120 All you have to do is sit in the throne. 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:24.600 That's all you gotta do. 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.000 So he's going to be getting everyone hyped up before 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:30.320 that game. Okay, cool, he's very well loved. I did 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:32.439 some stocking this morning. I'm like, yeah, he's a cool dude, 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:35.320 so good good for him. Someone who will not be 1:32:35.400 --> 1:32:39.680 there on Sunday Jamar Chase because his suspension appeal was denied. 1:32:40.240 --> 1:32:40.960 We saw that coming. 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:42.040 The proof is in the footage. 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:44.560 I said, a game, a game, it's a game, but 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:46.960 he denied it. What about that conspiracy? 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.240 Well, remember when they asked him. They're like, okay, well 1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:52.360 did you spit on Jalen Ramsey or not? He goes, no, no, no, 1:32:53.120 --> 1:32:55.000 I'll never spit. I ain't spent on nobody. That's what 1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:58.360 he said. I ain't spent on no flying We saw 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:01.439 the spit. FO nineteen was like, here's the spit. 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:05.000 One magic loogie in that one magic for another player. 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:07.200 I don't think there are a second angle on it. 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:09.280 We only had the one angle. Was there a second spinner? 1:33:10.479 --> 1:33:11.960 Grassy Chuck Nol, what about it? 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:16.160 This is why I appreciate that you appreciate Seinfeld, but 1:33:16.280 --> 1:33:18.639 I also with everybody. I had to pause the video, 1:33:18.800 --> 1:33:21.560 I had to zoom in, and I'm taking screenshots and 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:23.479 I'm like, it's really hard to see the spit, but 1:33:23.520 --> 1:33:24.439 the spit is there. 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:25.680 So there you go. 1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:27.599 There definitely a spit. There's something flying there. 1:33:27.920 --> 1:33:30.200 And he's also not going to be getting his weekly 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:33.559 paycheck of a cool four hundred and forty eight thousand bucks. 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:35.640 So you're saying, Tony, I know that's pretty close to 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:38.640 what you get from my heart. So so you're saying that, 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:43.000 no Burrow, no, no Jamar. So you're saying, there's a chance. 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:49.640 So could you imagine the hottest team in football is 1:33:49.720 --> 1:33:50.600 coming to Cincinnati? 1:33:50.680 --> 1:33:50.840 Yeah? 1:33:51.120 --> 1:33:56.200 No, Trey Hendrickson, no, Shamar Stewart, No, no Jamar Chase, 1:33:57.120 --> 1:33:59.599 no Joe Burrow. Who else are we missing? 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:00.599 Oh? 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:02.880 Cam Taylor Britt We just found out he's having season 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:05.800 ending foot surgery. Thank god, I know I'm missing a 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:09.400 bunch of others. I did just say Shamar Stewart, doesn't. 1:34:09.439 --> 1:34:11.800 Stewart Shamar Stewart, Well, I mean guys that can actually 1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:15.080 having the worst ever guys, We don't you know if 1:34:15.120 --> 1:34:17.680 you're Shamar Stewart or what. 1:34:19.920 --> 1:34:20.400 Stone said? 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:20.840 This one out? 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:26.200 We just play like four guys the other and these. 1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:27.879 Guys from SEXT stick around. 1:34:29.160 --> 1:34:31.160 They're left handed. How's that we'll make it fair and 1:34:31.280 --> 1:34:34.719 only win by by two scores? There, So Zach. 1:34:34.560 --> 1:34:37.360 Taylor is defending his guide Jamar Chase. He goes, look, 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:43.599 making one mistake doesn't disregard everything. The cover up, That's 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:45.760 what I was talking about the other day, and he goes, look, 1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:47.280 it's one thing to do it. Yeah, that it's a 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:49.800 bad thing. He goes, but why did you lie about it? 1:34:49.960 --> 1:34:53.800 Especially when there are cameras that don't I'm sorry at 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:54.719 Akrocer Stadium. 1:34:55.240 --> 1:35:01.759 So anyway, gate continues, So Lord sing over the Bengals. 1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:03.720 The only thing that Bengals can win Sunday's a coin toss. 1:35:03.880 --> 1:35:04.360 That's about it. 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:06.120 We'll see how that goes. 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:09.160 I watch him come out and rull New England. We 1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:09.680 never know. 1:35:09.760 --> 1:35:10.799 Every week is a surprise. 1:35:10.920 --> 1:35:12.439 I need a lot of help as a Bills fan. 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:16.120 I'm sure I lot of help and help. 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:18.560 But no, they're not need the Bills to help. I 1:35:18.680 --> 1:35:21.559 need our Bengals to well. 1:35:21.600 --> 1:35:24.840 Things are looking good for joke last week seven on 1:35:24.960 --> 1:35:27.800 seven's this week eleven on eleven's boy. Just like that, 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:29.479 all of a sudden, you go, will we see him 1:35:29.479 --> 1:35:32.759 on Thanksgiving Night against Lamar Jackson? The no and the Ravens. 1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:35.439 Probably not. Don't get your hopes up. Likely going to 1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:37.599 be Joe Flacco as long as his thrown shoulders. Okay, 1:35:38.040 --> 1:35:39.479 he's been kind of iffy too. 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:42.040 When you just shut him down. At this point, I 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:42.400 don't know. 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:43.840 I don't know what to do. 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:46.679 I know he wants to play, but if the future 1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:49.240 windows still open, why would you risk. 1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:52.400 That it could get so much worse to for this guy? 1:35:52.880 --> 1:35:54.479 So maybe we'll see Jake Brown next week. 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:57.200 Like the playoffs, the teams blocked the playoffs and they 1:35:57.240 --> 1:35:59.439 rest everybody in the last week or two, why not 1:35:59.560 --> 1:35:59.720 do that? 1:36:00.040 --> 1:36:02.240 Yeah, but yeah, it's a big weekend. And then of 1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:06.120 course FC Cincinnati is finally back after two weeks off, 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:11.120 hosting Miami five o'clock at TQL. They're telling everybody to 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:12.880 wear blue. This is going to be big. It's a 1:36:13.000 --> 1:36:15.920 one or done. You move you win, you move on. 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:19.920 That's it. That's it's one. That's I'll tell you what. 1:36:19.960 --> 1:36:22.080 That's get this done against Lio Messi. 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:24.519 Well, they got the monkey out the back with Columbus. 1:36:24.560 --> 1:36:24.960 That was big. 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:27.880 Now they got their confidence going and they're like, look 1:36:27.960 --> 1:36:30.000 we can we can beat them. So let's keep going, 1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:30.679 let's keep rolling. 1:36:31.080 --> 1:36:33.360 Get Messy in there. Yeah, a little snow might help. 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:35.439 Sunday could be a really great day for this city. 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:39.280 Go to and two. Yeah, eat the Patriots and Miami. 1:36:39.160 --> 1:36:39.680 Would be good. 1:36:39.880 --> 1:36:41.960 That'd be good. They got their number before It's not 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:44.519 like Cincinnati hasn't beaten them, so I believe that they 1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:46.439 can get this even with MESSI let's see what goes on. 1:36:46.520 --> 1:36:48.160 And they got a little confident, little swag going in 1:36:48.240 --> 1:36:49.360 this thing. It's going to be packed. 1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:53.360 This is pretty cool. Yeah, gonna be a nice weekend too. 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.479 We need some one of our teams to win here. Yes, 1:36:55.840 --> 1:36:59.320 the Bearcats got b YU coming in. Yeah, big night 1:36:59.400 --> 1:37:01.960 on a front day night, do in heritage. I mean 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:06.760 you got football night on Saturday night. Yeah, there's so 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:08.880 much going on top the bottom. The best sports events 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.320 in the city. Number one is the start at the bottom. Bengals. 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:13.280 Bengals at the bottom. 1:37:13.000 --> 1:37:13.599 Oh my gosh. 1:37:13.680 --> 1:37:14.840 And what what's above them? 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.479 I don't know. I put f C Cincinnati at the top. 1:37:20.160 --> 1:37:23.160 At the top, f C Cincinnati is they're rolling. They're 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:24.320 the best situation right now. 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.880 What about Older Saint X. That's a big event that 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:30.280 made the biggest sports event of the weekend. 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:31.680 Do you think so? Do you think they'll have a 1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:32.640 bigger attendance a. 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:35.960 Lot of Well than no, But I think I think 1:37:37.360 --> 1:37:39.840 on Friday night, FIDA Night game is going to be 1:37:39.840 --> 1:37:41.040 the big event between. 1:37:40.800 --> 1:37:43.320 Them and FCC. They're going to bring the most positive 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:44.200 vibes this weekend. 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:47.320 UC is up there, but you know, coming off now 1:37:47.439 --> 1:37:49.600 loss again, so now they got a street going and 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:50.679 that's not good. 1:37:52.160 --> 1:37:55.880 The Cincinnati Cyclones set a record yesterday for their kids game. 1:37:55.920 --> 1:37:57.720 I thought this was really cool. I don't know if 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:01.719 you saw this, but yesterday at ten thirty in the morning, 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:05.559 child Labors, so a bunch of kids from all over 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:09.200 the tri state attended. Twelve thousand, six hundred and eighty 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:13.080 seven was the attendance at the arena yesterday. 1:38:12.840 --> 1:38:15.920 Twelve eight sixty seven sixty Thank you. 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:19.040 They said it's the second largest attended game on a 1:38:19.160 --> 1:38:23.479 weekday in Cyclones history. How cool is that all the 1:38:23.600 --> 1:38:24.920 kids got a lesson in hockey? 1:38:24.960 --> 1:38:26.000 You don't have to go to school. 1:38:26.080 --> 1:38:26.240 Yeah. 1:38:26.280 --> 1:38:27.920 Can you imagine They're all like, I'll go, I'll go. 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:29.680 All this focus with pund of the test and the 1:38:29.760 --> 1:38:31.559 test you got to show up and go discos. We're 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:32.040 gonna watch a. 1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:34.760 Hockey game, right And there was no damage to the 1:38:34.800 --> 1:38:35.280 locker round. 1:38:35.320 --> 1:38:36.800 No one beat that up. That is going to be 1:38:36.880 --> 1:38:40.920 the story next week now that you've uncovered it here again. 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:43.479 I'm so invested. As soon as you hear something let 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:45.360 me know in case I'm like not on social media 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:45.880 for a moment. 1:38:46.040 --> 1:38:46.120 Ye. 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:49.160 When it comes to exposing the truth, Sarah LEAs is here. 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:50.639 I stand with to try. 1:38:52.240 --> 1:38:55.479 Exposing yourself here on the show. The proof is in 1:38:55.560 --> 1:39:01.479 the social media fans handle this. Oh stop, Sarah back 1:39:01.560 --> 1:39:03.799 on the Kid Chris Show tomorrow. I think that was insulting. 1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:04.240 Why do you hear? 1:39:04.280 --> 1:39:04.400 Hear? 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:08.280 And Chris Chris Morning need to break coming up next? 1:39:08.520 --> 1:39:12.639 Oh the girl needs it right now. All right, let's 1:39:12.680 --> 1:39:15.160 go big sports weekend ahead. Let's not screw it up, 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:18.360 shall we. Scott Sloan show on this Wednesday morning. Uh, 1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:20.120 we've got Willy on the way in just a few 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:22.040 minutes on seven hundred w WT. Since then,