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Speaker 1: Don't want to be an a Manican idiot.

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Speaker 2: That's a loan on seven hundred WLW. The question should

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Speaker 2: teenagers remain amateurs? Well, every adult around them profits from

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Speaker 2: their performance on the field, on the court, wherever it

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Speaker 2: might be. That's a question Ohio School principles are asking

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Speaker 2: themselves this week. They are voting as we speak, over

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Speaker 2: the course of this week on what the Ohio Name,

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Speaker 2: Image and Likeness policy will be. The old nil. We

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Speaker 2: are only one of six states without a policy, and

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Speaker 2: so I mean it's coming to a head right now,

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Speaker 2: right the pimple's gonna pop on that. Speaking of pimples,

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Speaker 2: my boy Tom Gamble, the CEO of In Game Sports.

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Speaker 2: They produce their Reds High School Showcase Skyline Chili Crosstown

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Speaker 2: Showdown half of the Two Angry Guys back in the day,

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Speaker 2: my former colleague. And also I will point out commissioner

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Speaker 2: of the GCL South, which features Tomorrow. I keep saying Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I know I want it to be Friday already like

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Speaker 2: everyone else's Friday. It's Elder Saint X at pay Court.

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Speaker 2: Twenty thousand tickets will go on sale at ten am,

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Speaker 2: less than an hour from now. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: only online. You can only get that at THEHSA website,

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Speaker 2: and I'd expect those twenty thousand to go pretty fast.

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Speaker 2: Tom Gamble, that's a hell of a setup. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Sloane?

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Speaker 3: Doing great?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate the opportunity, and you know why not, Why

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Speaker 4: shouldn't teenagers and high school athletes. But it's it's very tricky,

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Speaker 4: it's and it's funny you brought up about how there

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Speaker 4: are only six states that don't have that IL, Ohio

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Speaker 4: and Indiana ironically being two of the six. But here's

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Speaker 4: a statistic. Since two thousand and two when the OHSAA

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Speaker 4: member schools, over eight hundred of them voted against the NIL.

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Speaker 4: Since then, right back then, there were nine school nine

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Speaker 4: states that had ANIL. Now there's forty four. But here,

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Speaker 4: get a load of this. Less than one percent, less

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Speaker 4: than one percent of student athletes in those forty four

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Speaker 4: at the high school level. Everybody sees what's going on

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Speaker 2: To be a little bit different to the high school level. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think in Indiana's surprise too. As big as basketball

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Speaker 2: is there too, you think they'd be on this thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's inevitable. I mean, if you look at the

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Speaker 2: trajector this time, this is what back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: if you don't know who that is, wide receiver. He

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Speaker 2: receiver for the Ohio State University. In twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: he fought a lawsuit that forces the Ohio Athletic Association

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Speaker 2: High School Athletic Association to address this issue. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know much has changed between now and then, but

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Speaker 2: is do you think the outcome will be different this time?

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Speaker 4: Well? I do. I think it's going to be voted

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Speaker 4: order allowing Brown through his family right, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: the key. Steen athlete and family. I'll get to that momentarily,

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Speaker 4: but allowing him to pursue this currently well, that expires.

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Speaker 4: Training order expires on December fifteenth. So the challenge is

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Speaker 4: we want to legislate this, because if we do not,

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Speaker 2: Course you will. You're gonna have people wanting to game

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Speaker 2: the systems with anything in life. Tom gambles here he

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Speaker 2: It's before Ohio high school principles. All the members of

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Speaker 4: Well, that's where it got to with college athletics, and

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Speaker 2: Not at all. I mean, you know, when you see

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Speaker 2: And now were saying there's no collectives here in Ohio,

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Speaker 4: It better that they're gonna do that anyway. I mean

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Speaker 4: three year period. Essentially, the majority are in Olympic sports.

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Speaker 4: The good news is the Elder saying, next game Friday

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Speaker 2: You're not looking good, but I mean you're you know,

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Speaker 4: I would think solony on one thing, I never go

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Speaker 4: That's right. You know what's funny is it'll be interesting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that and that would certainly it'd be fair expected too,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, County, I think I know. I've I've talked a

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Speaker 2: all the best brother, I'm glad you're doing well, CEO

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Speaker 2: we've got President Trump, we have the Senate, we have

429
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Speaker 2: the House, we control the governor's man, we got all

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Speaker 2: the wisds. Is great, It's going to be the greatest

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Speaker 2: thing ever. We're going to make money. Everyone's going to

432
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Speaker 2: be rich. We're cutting two thousand dollars checks. Things are great.

433
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Speaker 2: What's really changed here because Senator to Mitch mcconne, I'm

434
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Speaker 2: going Senator Mitch McCall is a great example of follow

435
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Speaker 2: the money in politics, and so McConnell. In twenty fourteen

436
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Speaker 2: last re election, Bill i'st what ten years ago? He

437
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Speaker 2: received more donations from the beer, wine, and liquor sector

438
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Speaker 2: than any other senator in Congress, over one hundred and

439
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Speaker 2: forty four almost one hundred and forty five thousand dollars. WILLIAMS. Street,

440
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Speaker 2: who is the former head of Jack Daniels, is his

441
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Speaker 2: top individual donor. He's given seventy three thousand dollars in

442
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Speaker 2: contributions over Mitch McConnell's career. As a matter of fact,

443
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Speaker 2: three of the top five donors to Mitch McConnell are

444
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Speaker 2: from the Jack Daniels corporation.

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Speaker 4: And in the.

446
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Speaker 2: Past he's supported and got through legislation to give tax

447
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Speaker 2: advantages for liquor distillers. I don't have a problem keeping

448
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Speaker 2: business in Kentucky and the Bourbon Trail, and of course

449
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Speaker 2: that's you know, Jack Daniel's difference Tennessee. But you know

450
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that, Okay, that's all well and good,

451
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Speaker 2: but over his career he's received all this money from

452
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Speaker 2: alcohol and tobacco. But in particular this is alcohol because

453
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Speaker 2: Congress just closed the farm loophole allowing THHG level products

454
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Speaker 2: to remain open. But what wound up happening was Congress

455
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Speaker 2: comes along and says that's it, and it was buried

456
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Speaker 2: as part of the government of the ACA shut the

457
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Speaker 2: So two things followed the big money here. Secondly, why

458
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Speaker 2: is this even part of reopening the government when the

459
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: debate was over healthcare and they said, oh, we kind

460
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Speaker 2: of slipped this in at the last minute, slipped it

461
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Speaker 2: in at the last minute, Like I'm sorry, but if

462
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Speaker 2: Democrats did this, you'd be losing your mind right now.

463
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Speaker 2: But no one's paying attention because it's mit, dear old mischipaccadum.

464
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Speaker 2: It's absurd, it's horrible, and this is what's wrong with

465
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Speaker 2: politics and those people who would defend this activity simply

466
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Speaker 2: because they were Republican. It's just simply intolerable, is what

467
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Speaker 2: this is. Because so many people rely and have invested

468
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Speaker 2: money here in Ohio and other states for that matter,

469
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Speaker 2: but particular in Ohio that you simply can't you can't

470
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Speaker 2: fathom just how this whole thing's going to play out. Now,

471
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: maybe there is a little bit of hope here because

472
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Speaker 2: I guess you know the doomsday scenarios. You have an

473
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Speaker 2: entire industry wiped out. The THC beverage sector in Ohio

474
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Speaker 2: is literally going to be made extinct by this. And

475
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Speaker 2: it's the doing of Mitch McConnell, it's doing of the

476
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Speaker 2: Republicans support and voted for this thing. And so what's

477
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: going to have to happen is now you're going to

478
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Speaker 2: have to if you are one of these beverage makers,

479
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Speaker 2: leave the market entirely liquidate your inventory over the transition period,

480
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Speaker 2: which you're hearing is maybe they have a year to

481
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Speaker 2: do this, and just hope against hope that maybe that

482
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Speaker 2: there's some sort of federal intervention later on, going hey,

483
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Speaker 2: we screwed this up, we need to redo this. But

484
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Speaker 2: the idea is to reopen the government. Is now you

485
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Speaker 2: have destroyed the entire industry where people have literally put

486
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Speaker 2: their life savings into. Not to mention the bartenders and

487
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Speaker 2: restaurants and stores because the way and work as well.

488
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Speaker 2: You can sell the product, but now it has to

489
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Speaker 2: be a dispensary. Who's going to go go to a

490
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Speaker 2: dispensary to buy this stuff? The bars are selling it now,

491
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Speaker 2: Like you want to go sit at a bar and

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Speaker 2: enjoy one of these beverages. And I'm sorry if you

493
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Speaker 2: don't like THC or you don't have to. But if

494
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Speaker 2: you sit there enjoying your craft beer, your Budweiser, your

495
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Speaker 2: Miller Lite, your Mick Ultra, your craft beer the day,

496
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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and you're sitting next to somebody who's

497
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Speaker 2: enjoying a I don't know, a martini, a Manhattan, a Cosmo,

498
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Speaker 2: a glass of wine, and then somebody is sitting next

499
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Speaker 2: to them enjoying a THHD infuseed beverage. It's absurd to

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Speaker 2: think that the people who are drinking the beer, the wine,

501
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Speaker 2: and the alcohol would look down their nose at someone

502
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Speaker 2: enjoying a thhdu infuse. It's the same thing you're drinking

503
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Speaker 2: for the effect. People say, wow, I drink for the taste. Yeah, yeah,

504
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Speaker 2: that's certainly a factor. Niple. Let's face it, we drink

505
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Speaker 2: to have our inhibitions drop to feel better, to feel comfortable,

506
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Speaker 2: to maybe make pain time happen, but largely because it's

507
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Speaker 2: social and it loosens you up and it feels good.

508
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Speaker 2: That's why we drink alcohol. Nothing better than a buzz, right,

509
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Speaker 2: provided you're not driving a car, you're not hurting anyone

510
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Speaker 2: but yourself. And I always, it always is funny to

511
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Speaker 2: me the level of people with you know, country club

512
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Speaker 2: folks who would be looking down their nose at people

513
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Speaker 2: who smoke weed back in the day, even though they're well,

514
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Speaker 2: you guys are drinking you know, four or five martinis.

515
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Speaker 2: Well that's that's classier. It's a classier high. You're still

516
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Speaker 2: getting high. And to think that this whole industry now

517
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Speaker 2: has been really put in jeopardy is disturbing on so

518
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Speaker 2: many levels. What happened to free market economies? What happened

519
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Speaker 2: to free market republicans for that matter. And I'm sure

520
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Speaker 2: there's democrats to get money from, you know, from the

521
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Speaker 2: alcohol lobby, for sure, but this has Mitch mccone's fingerprints

522
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Speaker 2: on it, unfortunately, and it's it's sadly devastating on an industry.

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Speaker 2: And it also makes the case where well, you know,

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Speaker 2: you talk about Joe Biden in the auto pen. Is

525
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Speaker 2: there something going on there? Does Mitch McConnell actually aware

526
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Speaker 2: of what's going on at this point? It's so sad

527
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Speaker 2: and unfortunate. But you know, if you're a bourbon producer,

528
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Speaker 2: which I'm a big fan of bourbon, obviously, I understand

529
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: you got to protect your interests, you're protecting your market share.

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Speaker 2: But again we're back to what government doesn't do, and

531
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Speaker 2: that is to be the official, to be the referee,

532
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Speaker 2: to make sure that the rules apply fairly to everyone else.

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Speaker 2: And when you talk about ACA subsidies, which I'm against

534
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: because it's just a subsident, it's stupid. Democrats love subsidy,

535
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Speaker 2: but I don't know, it looks like Republicans are playing

536
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Speaker 2: that game as well. I mean, you know, you're giving

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Speaker 2: alcohol subsidies out and you're protecting that industry from THG producers,

538
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Speaker 2: THCH beverage producers, And that really is the maddening part

539
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Speaker 2: of this whole thing that plenty of people and I

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: think it's one of those things too. It really is

541
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Speaker 2: a turning point because you know, as someone who is

542
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Speaker 2: a person who uses cannabis, I look at it and

543
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Speaker 2: I get that there has always been a stigma against

544
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Speaker 2: cannabis users. You know burnouts, you know Jeff Spacoli, Cheech

545
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: and Shong, you know Bill and Ted, whoever it might be.

546
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of stoners and slackers. Yeah, I

547
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: get the perception. And the marijuana users really quite honestly

548
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: didn't help themselves with that brand. But it became mainstream.

549
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: We realized the medicinal properties of it, the curative properties

550
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Speaker 2: of it. When it comes to hemp, the ability to

551
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Speaker 2: use hemp as a is a product as a material

552
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Speaker 2: to fashion things out of. But then that small amount

553
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: of THC and there can be still extracted as a loophole,

554
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: because this is the loophole government created so they can

555
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Speaker 2: make these THC and fused beverages. And now there are

556
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: just so many people, everything from suburban moms to urban dads, etc.

557
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Are enjoying THD and fuse beverages and they're really not

558
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: different than Seltzer's mom waters and stuff like that. And

559
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: we had the craft beer industry that came along, then

560
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: we have the Seltzer industry in that that was a spike.

561
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: Now we have THHC. That's a spike, and you're going

562
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Speaker 2: to undermine all that because of special in church politics,

563
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: and I thought that the whole idea was to go

564
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: to Washington and change all this stuff. Well, guess what

565
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: if you're not satisfied completely with what's going on with

566
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Speaker 2: this administration with Trump, as I am not. I think

567
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: there's some wonderful things he's done. I think there's a

568
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: number of things he does that I shake my head

569
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: and go, what are we doing over here? This would

570
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: be one of the men I know that Trump's doing.

571
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: But again, this is politics as usual. It's the good

572
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: old boid network, and it's money getting what it does,

573
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: doing what it does. In this case, it's destroying an

574
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Speaker 2: entire industry. And it's unfortunate, really is because so many people,

575
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Speaker 2: like I said, I, are leaning into THC and fused beverages,

576
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: and now that one hits home. Whereas you may not

577
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Speaker 2: have you know, had an edible or smoked or vaped

578
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: or tinture or whatever it might be delivery system, Now

579
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: people are going, wow, you know, it's THHD thing. It's

580
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: a different kind of buzz than alcohol. And I feel

581
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: so much better the day after than I do when

582
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Speaker 2: I have a few beers or a couple glass of

583
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Speaker 2: bottle of wine or I don't know, a pitcher of margaritas,

584
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: for example. Boy, this I feel I feel a little

585
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: bit better about this. Plenty of people experience in the

586
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: word of mouth travels and that's why it's in the

587
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: industry in itself is exploding right now, or at least

588
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: it was, and now we're going to undermine this whole thing.

589
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: So long story short, it is gravely disappointing. It's unfortunate.

590
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: It's a sadd indictment of our political system that we

591
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: think is changing, but it's really not. And it also

592
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: limits your choice in your ability to do things sin

593
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Speaker 2: as an adult that adults are allowed to do in

594
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Speaker 2: this country simply because of big money. I'm not naive

595
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: enough to think that somehow this is going to change things.

596
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: But again, this is the price that we pay for

597
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Speaker 2: the system we have. And when you talk about how

598
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Speaker 2: to blow up the system and change it structurally, change Washington,

599
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Speaker 2: I don't know why we're not exploiting and talking about

600
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Speaker 2: this more, because that is absolutely a great illustration and

601
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Speaker 2: a metaphor for how we feel about our government today.

602
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Speaker 2: Quick time out, We've got news on the way in

603
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Speaker 2: about eight nine minutes. Here on seven hundred. WLW got

604
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Speaker 2: a special treat coming up at ten oh seven for Thanksgiving,

605
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Speaker 2: a little bit something, a little bit different involving that

606
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Speaker 2: that's coming up on the show. Speaking of the holidays

607
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Speaker 2: and the like. Though this is you know, you hear

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Speaker 2: those what do they call them? Not a not a

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Speaker 2: test but a I guess an index indexes. I guess

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Speaker 2: what they would call this on you know, American consumer

611
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Speaker 2: habits in the economy, like, you know, people are buying less,

612
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: Big Matter, the Big Mac indicator or something like that.

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Speaker 2: This is a new one, Kevin Kevin McAllister index. So

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Speaker 2: home alone, Home Alone two. If Kevin McAllister were doing

615
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Speaker 2: what he did today, how much would that cost versus

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Speaker 2: what nineteen eighty nine in Home Alone? The people at

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Speaker 2: I select dot com did this the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: price tag of Kevin's like this would be Home Alone two,

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Speaker 2: then the New York City Escape, and in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: two when Home Alone two came out, that would have

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Speaker 2: cost two thousand, one hundred nine dollars. How much would

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Speaker 2: Kevin McAllister's New York City Escape cost today? Well, the

623
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Speaker 2: Plaza Hotel suite he was in was eleven hundred dollars

624
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Speaker 2: back in ninety two. Today that suite goes for over

625
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Speaker 2: six thousand dollars six thousand a night. Damn. His room

626
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Speaker 2: service feest was just under one thousand dollars today, that'd

627
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Speaker 2: be about twenty two hundred dollars. The ice cream Sunday

628
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Speaker 2: then was eighteen today it's twenty four. And that's the

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Speaker 2: most reasonable increase too. So the action retail cost from

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two being twenty one oh nine to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, that number eighty five hundred dollars, which is

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Speaker 2: a over three hundred percent jump, and it still doesn't

633
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Speaker 2: include you know, taxis or I think he donated money

634
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Speaker 2: in a toy store and airfare and all that other stuff.

635
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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's a four hundred and sixty eight percent

636
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Speaker 2: increase of the Plaza Hotel suite. That's some serious money, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: That's some serious We have the Kevin McAllister Index. And

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Speaker 2: now you know, you know Scott's loan show back after

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Speaker 2: news in about five here, hang on seven hundred WWD,

640
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Speaker 2: since then, do you want to be an American? Slowly

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Speaker 2: back on seven hundred WLW DONF know this, but one

642
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: week from tomorrow. It is the best holiday of your

643
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: hands done. It's the best holiday. Why because it's all

644
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: about food, It's about family, it's about football, the three oups.

645
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: There's no pretext, there's no gifts. There's just food. There's gluttony.

646
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: There's passing out on the couch at three o'clock with

647
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: your hand down your pants, waking up at five from

648
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: your turkey and deuced stupor to eat more food. Have

649
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: a sandwich with stuffing on it. Carbs, carbs and more carbs.

650
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. And nothing embodies that more

651
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: than the new Dorothy Lane Market and Mason where I am,

652
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: and Chef Carrie Walters is here, she's executive chef, corporate chef,

653
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: and Mike Chrisman is the director of the meat department.

654
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: Forty seven years. Mike, you've been handling meat forty seven years. Yes,

655
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: I've been in the meat business for over forty years.

656
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Rank the top three cuts of meat in your mind?

657
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: Number one is what.

658
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: A ribbi prime rib goes with everything? Prime prime rib yeah,

659
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: prime ribbon, red wine. All right, that's the big one.

660
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 6: I wouldn't argue with that prime rib thing. It's it

661
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 6: is delicious, and if you ask a butcher behind the

662
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 6: candle counter, they'll tell you their favorite steak is a ribbu.

663
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: It's always a ribb. It's marbled, the flavors there because

664
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: you have the fat, the caramelization. You got all that

665
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: working on too. And I don't have to tell chef

666
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: that what's the best way to cook us a ribbi?

667
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 7: And low and slow? I love that reverse ser Oh yeah,

668
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 7: little thermometer.

669
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: So I'll go in to Dorothy Lane. I'll get a

670
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: nice inch and a quarter maybe two foot thick ribbi

671
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: and I'll take that and I'll put it in my

672
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: smoker at two twenty five and then get it to

673
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: one eighteen and then take it off and then sear it.

674
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: And then you have a reverse seer with the crust

675
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: on it, and it's got a little smoke to it.

676
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: That's what I like. How about that? Absolutely we go there,

677
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: we're talking food. If you can't tell, I'm into this

678
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: thing right now. Congratulations. By the way, Dorothy Lane Market

679
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: opening in Mason. I was kind of joking with carrying

680
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: everyone else to like it felt like this thing has

681
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: been under construction since eight teen sixty four, and it

682
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: took like three years to come to it, but it's

683
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: absolutely go. I've yet to be in because two or

684
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: three times we went by. I'm like, we can always

685
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: go in. We live right there. It's like there's always

686
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: a line, which that's a good sign, right absolutely. Why

687
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: is explaining this way? Why is Dorothy Lane so popular?

688
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Why is it such a big thing so iconic?

689
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 6: Dorothy Line is a popular because it's got a history

690
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 6: in Dorothy Lane's family owned business, been in business since

691
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 6: nineteen forty eight. We've grown, We've grown slow. This is

692
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: our fourth store, so it is the place, it's place

693
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 6: to be. We've gone a little bit different direction.

694
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 6: When the industry has taken one turn, we've taken the

696
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: opposite term. So we're a gourmet retailer in the Dayton

697
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 6: area and we've got things that note you can't find

698
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 6: anyplace else.

699
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: And you have a significant number of foodies around, especially

700
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: in Mason. Do you know the chef. There's things that

701
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: you would look at us Durre and go wow, you

702
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: that you can't find in the world.

703
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 7: Correct, correct, And we make a lot of our things

704
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 7: from scratch, so we kind of cross the board between

705
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 7: old fashion. We have great potato salad, great additional macaroni salad,

706
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: but we also have a really fun vegan chickpea salad.

707
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 7: So we you know, we're trying to make everybody happy, Grandma,

708
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 7: your teenage.

709
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: Well, it's like if you know, it's not like a supermarket.

710
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: It is, but it's a restaurant too. It's it's a

711
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: really interesting combination. We go in, there's a lot of

712
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: great chef made, chef inspired and fresh. You know, I

713
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: can go in and get it, get a ribb if

714
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: I want right, Yeah, you.

715
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 6: Can get a ribbi coach right on the grill the

716
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 6: way that you want it on the grill, and you

717
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: can take it upstairs to our cafe and eat it

718
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 6: right there. Have Uh it's perfect date night, yeah, to

719
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 6: go and watch the sunset and have a nice steak.

720
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: Right.

721
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: And it's it's a really cool common because we've moved

722
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: into that era. Now you go to any grocery store,

723
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: especially Dorothy Lane, and there's all the prepackaged. We don't

724
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: have time to cook like we used to. It's especially

725
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: like I'll do it on the weekend if I have

726
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: time even but it's great to go in and get

727
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: and and now what you guys have is so diverse.

728
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: That's the cool part. You're just talking about adding Indian food, right, correct?

729
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, we have a really very large clientele and

730
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 7: that's they're looking for more of the you know, lagoon friendly,

731
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: delicious vegan. So it's really it's been fun to you know,

732
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 7: start to really devolve into some of that.

733
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Speaker 8: As far as where are you on vegans, Mike, not

734
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 8: at my house. It's a sour I love to talk.

735
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Speaker 2: By the way, it's a chef Carry Walters and my

736
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Christmas who has been working the director of meat for

737
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: doroth A Lane Market, my guy forty seven years. By

738
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: the way, that's incredible. A guy who knows every cut

739
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: of every you name it. It's a fowl, is it fish?

740
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Is it as a beef? Is it pork? He's got

741
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: He's on top of it. Let's talk about turkey, chef

742
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: real quick, Brian or no, Brian. I'm a Brian guy.

743
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: I get my fresh bird. I brind it overnight. I

744
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: know the ratios if you if you're going, well, okay

745
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: fresh turkey, Uh, you gotta do. I think it's it's

746
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: probably best to probably Brian that get all of flavor

747
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: and it would you agree? I like dry braining a

748
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: little bit better, which is what how do you do

749
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: that salt?

750
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Speaker 7: And if I always to tell people to cook the

751
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 7: turkey and what they want on the dinner plate. So

752
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 7: if you're into crispy delicious skin, some rub it all

753
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 7: over with salt, leave it uncovered in your refrigerator overnight,

754
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 7: and that skin.

755
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: Will just be delicious. Why doesn't skin get crispy moisture?

756
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 7: Number one?

757
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Moisture is escaping, So if you do it one of

758
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: those plastic bags, you're probably not gonna be crispy skin.

759
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 7: That's right. I grew up with my we had no

760
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: color on our skin whatsoever. My mom's of course, my

761
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 7: mom's turkey was delicious, but it's not the turkey that

762
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 7: I make. Yeah, so you kind of pick and choose

763
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 7: your battles, decide how you're gonna get what you want

764
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 7: on the dinner plate. How what's the best choice cooking

765
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 7: wise to get there?

766
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

767
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's should dry brian was the dry

768
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: rub basically or the wet Brian is a cup of

769
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: salt and gall of water. And then but then you

770
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: can add all sorts of different stuff.

771
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 7: Oh sure, and you're in your wet Brian absolutely. You

772
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 7: know a lot of people struggle with that, like where

773
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 7: am I gonna put it right?

774
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: You know?

775
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 7: Can I use a cooler? My big thing is if

776
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 7: you're a big gravy person, a big pant sauce person,

777
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 7: and maybe Brian wetbrining is not for you, but that

778
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 7: Wetbrian gives a very moist, delicious Uh.

779
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's where you go, see Mike in the butcher department.

780
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: You get the turkey, but then you get like some

781
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: backs and wings and drums, and then you make the stock.

782
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: Ahead make the stock and then make and everything else.

783
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Because the gravy pulls it all It's like the it's

784
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: like the rug. The rug pulls it all together. The

785
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: gravy pulls it all together. Here, gravy becomes a beverage.

786
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: If it's good enough, I make a pretty good grave.

787
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure chef makes it much better gravy than I

788
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: do too, So.

789
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 7: It's someone a pretty amazing gravy. It's always fun to

790
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 7: see the day after Thanksgiving all of the crowds are

791
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 7: coming in because they all ran out of gravy and

792
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 7: they need to have the gravy.

793
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: That's amateur move man. The turkey parts this time of year,

794
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: you get some necks and the good the good stuff,

795
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: and you cook that down and make your own stock, right,

796
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: and then you make your own gravy out of that.

797
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: Just got plant of the head. Do a little bit

798
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: ahead anyway on that too. How big a bird should

799
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: you get is the rule. It's like a pound pound

800
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: and a half a person. We recommend one pound per person. Okay,

801
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: but to get a turkey, you know, a turkey's at

802
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: least ten twelve pounds, so a small turkey. If you

803
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: have a fifteen sixteen pound turkey, it's going to feed

804
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen people. Yeah. But if you like leftovers, get

805
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: the thirty pound turkey. Get the thirty pounds.

806
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Or do what I do, and I buy a

807
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 7: small turkey for all of the yummy parts, and I

808
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 7: buy an additional breast to get Oh yeah, sure the

809
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 7: next day to the turkey sandwiches.

810
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: Now you can do it a lot too. If you

811
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: want to get crazy right.

812
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 7: With that, I'm coming to your house.

813
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got overruled. I want to do that

814
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: one year and I'm like, no, we want the turkey,

815
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: we want the tradition, because it's about tradition, right, it is,

816
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: but explain that what I just yeah, so.

817
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I always stuck.

818
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 7: My mother in law has been making turkey obviously for

819
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 7: a long time, and my first year of being married,

820
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 7: it's always kind of a war. That's not how I

821
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 7: did it. That's not how my mom did it. I

822
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 7: don't agree with what you're doing, so I think a

823
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 7: lot of the don't talk politics. Maybe talk about your

824
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 7: stuffing versus my stack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a

825
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 7: way of turkey right to do it right?

826
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: You know it.

827
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 7: It's a people are very passionate about. They don't want to.

828
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: I used my God bless and my late moms for recipe.

829
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: I got the it's on an index card and uh,

830
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, trying to read her cursive from years ago.

831
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: But her, I'm just we all grew up with her

832
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: stuffing and that's it. And she would make you know,

833
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: there are maybe six of us, but she'd get two

834
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: loaves of bread to make the stuffing with some stuff.

835
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: We were eating stuffing at Easter at this point. You

836
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: know it is, but it's it's what it is. I

837
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: mentioned a lot. So anyway, you take a breast and

838
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: you slight you can, but you can do that in

839
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: the butcher shop. So it's like a pinwheel. Basically, you

840
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: put the stuffing in and then you roll it up

841
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: and if you want that it's and then you slice

842
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: it and it's beautiful on the plate. But it's not

843
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: really traditional. But you guys would butcher.

844
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: That, right.

845
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

846
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah. We'll get asked all kinds of things to

847
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 6: do for their turkey. Uh like what, well, everybody will

848
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: want you other to be a bunch of people want

849
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: it'spatch cocked, which is where we take the backbone out

850
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 6: and crack the breast so it lace flat. So if

851
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: it lays flat, it's gonna cook quicker. Right, You're not

852
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: going to stuff it is easy?

853
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, which is another big lemon.

854
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: True.

855
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now what about a turn ducket? Have people still

856
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: doing that?

857
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: I hope not.

858
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Why give me the chefs and gonna carry chefs here?

859
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: So you know all that poultry we need to cook it.

860
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 7: The center power needs to be one sixty five. And

861
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 7: if you're sticking a quail inside of a chicken inside

862
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 7: of a turkey, think about what that outside of that

863
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 7: turkey is going to be at by the time the

864
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 7: tiny little inside is one hundred and sixty five degrees. Wow,

865
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 7: it's well passed time.

866
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotcha. It's definitely could a little bit dry,

867
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: is what you're saying. Yes, gotcha. But people still do

868
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: the turn ducket, Yes they do. There'll be a few,

869
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: not a lot.

870
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 6: We'll get asked to make some, but in the company

871
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 6: we probably won't make fifteen sixteen of them, gotcha. Compare

872
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: when you're selling thousands of turkeys, fifteen sixteen of them?

873
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: Right?

874
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you so if someone says, you know

875
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: what a turkey it's it's been done, that's old, that's

876
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I want to do. So what is

877
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: the biggest alternative to turkey for Thanksgiving? Prime rib? Prime

878
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: rib has always been like meat? Yeah, met, prime ribbon

879
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: is not going to do a meat at the holiday?

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: Prime river of fil a.

881
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: All right?

882
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: What do people usually get about wrong about the like

883
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: a standing rib roaster? A prime rab?

884
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 6: People tend to overcook them, so they want to they

885
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 6: want to get it done. And prime rib is good

886
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 6: at one hundred and twenty degrees and if they they

887
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 6: cook it too long, it usually gets overcooked. Yeah, it's

888
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 6: got to be rare, yes, absolutely, And then you get

889
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 6: because they've had it before and it's like a shoe, right,

890
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 6: Well you do that ro stpeep, same thing. Right, It's

891
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 6: got to be you know, an order to slice it

892
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 6: and get that. It's you got to have that juice.

893
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 6: And some people don't like it, then you should not

894
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: be eating that.

895
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: Right.

896
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anyone to come in and just have hot dogs,

897
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: get some mets on the grill Thanksgiving, not for Thanksgiving.

898
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: No people like that, And I know some people that

899
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: would go out. I'm just got going to do burgers

900
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: and hot dogs in study this morning. It's on my Christmas.

901
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: He is the Dorothy Lane Market Mason by the way,

902
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: meat department director there has been doing that for four decades.

903
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: And Chef Carrie Walters, who's very young and has only

904
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: been doing this for a few years, but she is

905
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: in corporate twenty five years corporate chef. And we're talking

906
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: about Thanksgiving it or ready for Thanksgiving? Gett your bird?

907
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: Can you still get a fresh turkey?

908
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 6: Absolutely, we're gonna take Yeah, we're gonna take fresh turkey.

909
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 6: Order something until the twenty fourth, gotcha. So it's a

910
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 6: good idea to place in order so that you get

911
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 6: a turkey in the size range that you want if

912
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: you come in and just try to get one, it

913
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 6: may be what we have left is what you're gonna get.

914
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: Gotcha, all right? Always a good idea to place STORER

915
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: give me a side this year, chef, Well you have to. Okay,

916
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: we got mashed potatoes. Everyone has their favorite mashed potatoes.

917
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Maybe the yams sweet potatoes. Got that recipe, let's talk

918
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: about I'm not get even. I'm not even going to

919
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: taint this convers I'm just gonna go green bean castrole.

920
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Where are you on that?

921
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 7: I love green bean castle for but I like it fresh.

922
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 7: Oh okay, so we actually sell a delicious several different

923
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 7: types of green beans. But I'm not a big canned person,

924
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 7: so I like to blanch the green beans off. I

925
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 7: make a mushroom sherry sauce. I deep eye shallots at home,

926
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 7: and I kind of do that same similar taste, nostalgic,

927
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 7: but it's a lot better.

928
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: I want to come to your house. Then said, well, trade,

929
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: how's that you hang out with my family? Hanging out

930
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: with yours probably actually go a lot better.

931
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 7: Super popular.

932
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably work out for a lot of people. It's

933
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: a trade. In the twenty twenty five Thanksgiving Day Draft

934
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: the Selected from Mason, Ohio. Yeah, and I always annually

935
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: do a rant against green bean Castle. I declare you

936
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: hot every year on green bean Castle because it just

937
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: seems insulting to me. You take a can or a

938
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: frozen bag of mushy green beans, you get some soup

939
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: mix in their can of soup, and then some pre

940
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: fried onions, and you mix it all together and you

941
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: bring that that is such a disgrace to this this

942
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: hallowed holiday. I will not stand for it. Green Bean

943
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Castle does not have a place on my table.

944
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

945
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 7: What's really scary is I think if you just interviewed

946
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 7: the top you know, ten people at walk into our store,

947
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: how much green bean castrole is on their menu?

948
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: People love it. Yeah, It's cheating, is what it is.

949
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: This is the one high. It's about food, right, and

950
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: this is it. I mean, if you can't put on

951
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: a show and do the right thing on Thanksgiving, there's

952
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: no hope for this country. There's no hope whatsoever for

953
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: there's no hope for America. So I'm like Bill cut

954
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham of food over here all right other side?

955
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Do where would you go with?

956
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: Like?

957
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: I want to try something a little different, but not

958
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: get too crazy.

959
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: That's right.

960
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: I love all those roasted vegetables, all those gorgeous swashes

961
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 7: that are in right now. Just makes me think a

962
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 7: harvest and Thanksgiving, honeynut, butternut, acorn. I think a lot

963
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: of that stuff is fun. You can make it into

964
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 7: a soup, soup, you can roast it along with some carrots.

965
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 7: It's a relatively easy recipe that goes great with turkey.

966
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

967
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: No one likes to eat on Thanksgiving more than Tom Brenneman.

968
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: And he's not doing football. Turn all that mic out,

969
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: Turn the other bike on here, big day, turn his

970
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: mike on here, she said, is slowely live in there

971
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: with them, she says. If you want to buy the

972
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: sides for Thanksgiving, yes, yes, okay. Do you have to

973
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: order that ahead of time as well as a turkey,

974
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: We recommend it.

975
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 7: Okay, you can just walk into the store. It whole

976
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 7: variety of It's all about Thanksgiving and our prepared food cases.

977
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: I believe me, I've been there many times.

978
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 7: But it's smart to r s v P, which is

979
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: super easy to do the you can do it online.

980
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 7: You can give us a call. We take orders up

981
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: till this Friday.

982
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Until it's Friday. I got her on the phone right now.

983
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: She said, I'm listening to Slonia.

984
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: You don't listen to me.

985
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: Why didn't she put on the hotline and she could

986
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: do the interview. She'd be much better than the both

987
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: of us at this stuff. You might be right, yes,

988
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: thank you, sorry to interrupt. All right, you're not interrupting.

989
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: The legendary Tom Brendaman right there on the phone, his

990
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: wife said, I need answers to side dishes.

991
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: There you go.

992
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good endorsement. I would say right there

993
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: in the household.

994
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 7: A lot of the times, I always say pick your battles.

995
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 7: You know, you could have your friends and family bring dishes.

996
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 7: I love to cook, but I still get our mashed

997
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 7: potatoes because I can't make them better than we do.

998
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 7: We use beautiful French butter, whole fat cream. We steam

999
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: our potatoes, their salt and pepper. I'm not going to

1000
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 7: spend the time.

1001
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: To potatoes the right way.

1002
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, our potatoes are delicious, So I spend time doing

1003
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 7: some other fun stuff. So we have a lot of

1004
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 7: people who are picking and choosing their battles.

1005
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

1006
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 7: And what's what Dorothan and Mark is gonna help with

1007
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: and what they can do at home?

1008
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Is there such thing is a meat side dish? And

1009
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: what would that be for Thanksgiving? Mince meat pie is

1010
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: not meat? No, let's forget what it's nuts?

1011
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 7: Right?

1012
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 9: Is it?

1013
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: Is that a chef? What's mince meat?

1014
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1015
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: No, it's like vegetables.

1016
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: Is vegetable? I thought it was not. I don't. I've

1017
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: had it once a long time ago. I'm like, there's

1018
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: something I'll never eat again.

1019
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 7: My husband would say, bacon side dish of bacon Thanksgiving?

1020
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: What is going on you? I want to know what

1021
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: Mike's table looks like right now, because it's a oh,

1022
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna get a side dish alipator. Probably I would

1023
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: think we're gonna have meat and meat and meat.

1024
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, but uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have traditional sides

1025
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: with my turkey every every year. We gotta have and

1026
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 6: it's Uh, what's really cool is is that used to

1027
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 6: be my mom and dad did Thanksgiving at their house.

1028
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

1029
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: Now they come to my house. So that's how it goes.

1030
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 6: It's gone for a full circle.

1031
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and that's the rich part about it is families, right,

1032
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: and as you get older, it's like in then the

1033
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: younger ones take it over and it's different, but it's

1034
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: the same, and it's just this tradition and the recipes

1035
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: seemingly through the families live forever. And that's and that's

1036
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: why I love Thanksgiving because it really is the essence

1037
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: of family getting together, and and friends too for that matter.

1038
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: And I think friends Giving is a big one. Now

1039
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: you probably see as many people come do in Friendsgivings

1040
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: as Thanksgiving. Correct we do, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Uh,

1041
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: it will always be turkey though. Turkey will always be

1042
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: the tradition on Thanksgiving. And make sure again one sixty

1043
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 2: five right.

1044
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 7: One sixty five by that thermometer. It's the best insurance

1045
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 7: policy you have.

1046
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: Really, I think, I think that's the most underrated kitchen tool.

1047
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: And I have a bunch of you know, chef stuff

1048
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: in that, but use it, you know, like a thermopen

1049
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: or a even the wireless ones and bluetooth ones are great.

1050
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 7: So those probe thermometers are awesome. It takes that you're

1051
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 7: doing no math, no poundage, no nothing, regardless of what

1052
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 7: the recipe says or what the chef says, your turkey

1053
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 7: is done.

1054
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: And you know that you know this mic too. About

1055
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: getting the temperature right on meat is like, I have

1056
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: a it's called a meter thermometer and it's bluetooth and

1057
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: it literally says, okay, what are you cooking? I'm cooking beef? Okay,

1058
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: what kind of what cut of beef? Put the cut

1059
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 2: in there?

1060
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

1061
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: What temperature? Boom and automatically does it tells you when

1062
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: it's done and you pull it off. It's amazing. Yeah,

1063
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: you could.

1064
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 6: You could get those and use them in your your

1065
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 6: oven at home or if you have a smoker.

1066
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: I get that.

1067
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1068
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get to the smoker too, right, a smoker too,

1069
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: and you've got a wireless bluetooth that's sitting outside.

1070
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know when it hits temp and you know,

1071
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: it alerts me and it's pull it off and it

1072
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Speaker 2: never misses. Then the thermopen is what chefs us. It's

1073
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: a fold it up. They're pretty cheap too, and it's

1074
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Speaker 2: a good investment. And you get an instant read thermometer.

1075
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty easy that way. Make sure you're it's food safety.

1076
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: But it's also who wants to ruin because let's face it,

1077
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: food coasts are pretty expensive these days. You want you

1078
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Speaker 2: don't want to screw.

1079
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Speaker 7: It up right and the turkeys. If the turkey is

1080
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 7: the main course, you need to be right on it.

1081
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well again, congratulations on the opening.

1082
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to get in there at some point here,

1083
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: and that's gonna happen probably one of these days, because

1084
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: I'm doing Thanksgiving this year and get ready to cook.

1085
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop by Dorothy Lane Market and Mason if

1086
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: you're looking for sides, they're ready to go, or you

1087
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: do the whole dinner and they're still available to the

1088
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: fresh turkeys and more. But thanks for coming in today

1089
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: and it's awfully nice to meet both of you and

1090
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: appreciate it. It's our pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thankes.

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Speaker 2: Care all right, Scott Slone Show. We got to get

1093
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: a news update in just minutes. I'm hungry. Time to

1094
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 2: eat here seven hundred WW helping you put the big

1095
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: P in profession. Here's our career, sirpa. Julie Bouki, Yes

1096
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Speaker 2: she is, and she's here now. I'm the Scott Sloane

1097
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Speaker 2: Show on seven hundred W LW. She's off last week

1098
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: and jumps back in the fray this morning, rested and

1099
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: ready to go. Julie my dear, how are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm fine, how are you?

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Speaker 2: What are you laughing about? That wasn't funny. That was

1102
00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: a serious compliment. Rested, that's I don't know, So we

1103
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: have an issue. This is interesting. These corporate CEOs are

1104
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: kind of pushing back a little bit. Here Ford Motors

1105
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: Jim Farley was pretty candid about some criticism. You're set

1106
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: this up? Tell what is this about? And what did

1107
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: he say that was so controversial?

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00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, So he was talking about their challenge in how

1109
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 9: do I how do we continue to produce that we

1110
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 9: need to produce when we don't have the talent to

1111
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 9: do it? And I thought there was just so many

1112
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 9: interesting things that in here. And one is that you

1113
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 9: know what we thought, we're looking to find mechanics. We

1114
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 9: have five thousand openings and they pay one hundred and

1115
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 9: twenty thousand dollars a year, like wow, And so that

1116
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 9: we've talked.

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00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: About as many times.

1118
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 9: But I think what's interesting is we still are seeing

1119
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 9: this gap. And he said, we can't keep up with demand.

1120
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 9: We can't grow unless we have the talent, and we

1121
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 9: do not have the talent. We do not have people

1122
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 9: who want these shocks. We do not have people who

1123
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 9: are ready for these jobs, who have the skills for

1124
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 9: these jobs. And when we talk about we're getting all

1125
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 9: kinds of mixed messages from all over the place. We

1126
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 9: don't have the talent here, we have too much talent here.

1127
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 9: But it depends on what jobs you're talking about.

1128
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Speaker 4: Interesting.

1129
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 9: I love some of the staffs in this if. I

1130
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 9: so fascinating. The first ten months of last year, one

1131
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 9: hundred and fourteen thousand dollars, fourteen thousand Americans in their

1132
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 9: twenties completed vocational programs compared to one point two four

1133
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 9: million who graduated from four year colleges and four hundred

1134
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 9: and five thousands who received advanced degree. So you can

1135
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 9: see the demand and supply are way way way out of.

1136
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 4: Balance, and there's just not enough.

1137
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 9: At least at this point, there's not enough still buildings,

1138
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 9: there are enough people interested, or they're earn enough of

1139
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 9: those programs that are out there actively recruiting write people

1140
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 9: to prepare them for these jobs. I anticipate that Ford

1141
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 9: is either looking at or will look out creating an

1142
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 9: the hired training program. They may already have one that

1143
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 9: they don't want more people into it.

1144
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: Well, I know people in like the HVAC industry and

1145
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: Johnson's supply. They have their own HVAC school that they

1146
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: pay for and then they eventually as soon as you

1147
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: graduate in six to eight weeks, you move on and

1148
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: you've got a job with one of their contractors. And

1149
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: so many companies are doing that where they're it's like, listen,

1150
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: we have missed the mark. It's all about college education.

1151
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: It's the most important thing. And we have to do

1152
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: our own training and train up young people to go

1153
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: into these jobs. And one hundred and fourteen thousand Americans

1154
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: in their twenties completed vocational programs and that is about

1155
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: ten times less than what we need. And I think

1156
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: it's set up this way, Julie, because for years and

1157
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: a year I look at the system the way it is,

1158
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: in the bias it's built into this. Then this is

1159
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: the way it is. If you're an educator, all right,

1160
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: and you want to make more money as a teacher

1161
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: and eventually in a few years become an administrator, So

1162
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: we have this whole administrative class in our schools. You

1163
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: have to go and get another degree and more so

1164
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: you keep going back to school and then talk about

1165
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: how much money you don't make because there's so many

1166
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: teachers because it's a blind demand istion. I'm not grapping

1167
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: on teachers. We need them, they're so formative. I understand that.

1168
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about the economic model here. And so

1169
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: if that is your steady died of college grad school,

1170
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: master's degree, doctorate, you think the only way to more

1171
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: money is more education, and that would be at a university.

1172
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: And so you tend to be biased and say, well,

1173
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: if you want to make something in your life, you

1174
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: got to go to college. And we have misserved the

1175
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: youth of America now for several generations with that mindset.

1176
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: And we took shop out of school, and there are

1177
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: budget cuts, and we took all these things out because

1178
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: they're expensive, but those were the that's the form of

1179
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: training that reaches so many people. And I have often

1180
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: lamented that, you wonder how many kids, how many millions

1181
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: of young people, their lives didn't go out as planned

1182
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: or certainly they didn't hit the expectations they have or

1183
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: never achieved the success it was imminent for them because

1184
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: they were never exposed to the stuff in the first place.

1185
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: And not only do they lose, but we lose because

1186
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: we don't have enough people in the class go up

1187
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: tremendously in the wait times, and we have a we

1188
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: still have a need to build things in this country

1189
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: that haven't been satisfied because of this whole model.

1190
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, and we have been. This has been going on

1191
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 9: for decades and so it's really hard to turn this

1192
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 9: around on a dime. But the model, or the belief

1193
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 9: that's been really imprinted on us is college is the

1194
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 9: way to success.

1195
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: College is the only way.

1196
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 9: If you're smart and you bunt and you want success, well,

1197
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 9: that depends. It depends what you want to do. If

1198
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 9: you want to build bridges, gets, please get a college education.

1199
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 9: If you want to be a doctor, test lease. But

1200
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 9: we've taken this the idea that it's the only way

1201
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 9: to be successful, and we have wrapped it around the

1202
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 9: entire education system, from parents to high school to colleges.

1203
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 9: And what's now being very much exposed is that the

1204
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 9: high school, the high school education system, and a post

1205
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 9: high school education system have not kept up with their responsibility,

1206
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 9: which is to be responsive to what the market demands.

1207
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 9: No wonder having a college education is seen as you know,

1208
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 9: if it's an eye roll for a lot of people,

1209
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 9: don't care you go to Harvard and major in philosophy.

1210
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 9: Good for you, but so what versus having that be ooh,

1211
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 9: you're so smart, you've got a career successful. We have

1212
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 9: to change our thinking. That has to start with how

1213
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 9: we as a parents view what's preparing our kids for success.

1214
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 9: Looks like you can't high school done, check off college,

1215
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 9: check up box. They're out okay, but bye.

1216
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: You know now you're out on your own.

1217
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 9: Now you figure it out. That's why juniors in your basement.

1218
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Julie Bouchie our career Shirp on the Sconsolon Show on

1219
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: seven hundred w LW Truth to Power right there, for sure,

1220
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: we need more people going to vocational programs. And you

1221
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: know we have subsidies for college and graduate education, so

1222
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: you keep going. It's the government's making money. They make

1223
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: sure that they get their money back because they're federally

1224
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: subsidized now. And it's a vicious cycle. But it's our

1225
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: own detriment too. And when you have the CEO of

1226
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: Ford Motor Company saying, listen, we've got a lift to

1227
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: bay with a lift and tools and no one to

1228
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: work in it. We don't have trade schools in this country.

1229
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: He's right, there's few, and there's more coming online right now,

1230
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: but there's such a backlog in need that it can't

1231
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: do it fast enough right now. So if you're a parent,

1232
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: can consider that maybe your kid isn't going to succeed

1233
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: in the academic world and it be college. It doesn't

1234
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: mean they're a failure. It doesn't mean it's reflection and

1235
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: you as a bad parent, you didn't do your job,

1236
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: that your kid is not going to be successful in life.

1237
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: To the contrary, it just maybe they're good at something

1238
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: different and that would be more tactile and more hands

1239
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: on that it is academic, and there's nothing wrong with that,

1240
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: but we have vilified that type of fashion for so long.

1241
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: It's become part of our DNA here in America, and

1242
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: if we don't change it, which I think we're trying to,

1243
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: and I think we're making some inroads here, it's to

1244
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: our own detriment too, because we were at about certainly

1245
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: the stems and gifted students and competing with the Chinese

1246
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: and the rest of the world. We'll have that and

1247
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: continue to churn out the best and the brightest. But

1248
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: the thought that somehow if you don't have a four

1249
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: year degree from somewhere that you are a lesser individual.

1250
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: That attitude has got to stop because it's wrong and all.

1251
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: It's punching down, but on top of that, it's really

1252
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: destroying our country because at the end of the day,

1253
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: you still need people to fix and build stuff and

1254
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: God blessed trades people because they go look down on

1255
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: but their hands are clean. Their hands might be dirty,

1256
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: but their money's clean. I've seen that phrase used often.

1257
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: Julie Balki our career ship on the Scotsland Show on

1258
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: seven hundred ww sheen er team ready to consult you

1259
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: about maybe a midlife career change or maybe you're starting

1260
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: out and anywhere in between at Thebalukigroup dot com. That's

1261
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: b a uk E. It's Julie on the job every

1262
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning on the Scotts Slow Show. B Well, we'll

1263
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: talk next week or not we won't. Actually it's the hob.

1264
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: I'll be off next Wednesday, so you and Ja have

1265
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 2: a great Thanksgiving rest up and then we'll be ready

1266
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: to go in two weeks. How's that?

1267
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: Ye?

1268
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: Well, all right, all the best, Thanks again, Julie Buki

1269
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: on the job here in the Scott's Loan Show seven

1270
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: hundred w with them. Yeah, I think get a chance

1271
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: to check during the break here who should have But

1272
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: how ticket sales are for a Friday night at pay

1273
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: corps it's elder and Saint X. Is getting any bigger

1274
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: than that, I don't think it does. About fifty five

1275
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: minutes ago, some twenty thousand tickets were put on the

1276
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: market at that website, at the OHSAA website. That's the

1277
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: only place to get them because simply seven thousand seats

1278
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: at Mason was not going to get it done for

1279
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: this and so moving it to pay Corps. I got

1280
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: to give the Bengals credit because I often criticize the Bengals,

1281
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: but I'm fair and I will give ups when and

1282
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Speaker 2: props to people when they do stuff like the Bengals

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: did to get this thing fast tracked. That's great because,

1284
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: as you know, the taxpayers of Amlin County were all

1285
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: paying for this in some way, shape or form of

1286
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: sales taxes. I don't have to tie if you owned

1287
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: property in Hamilton County how hard it is for you.

1288
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: But we often talk about how bad that deal was

1289
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: and how one sided seems things seem to be for

1290
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Speaker 2: the team, but the fact that they were will to

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01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: get this done in less than twenty four hours. I

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01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: give them full credit for this, and it's awesome. We

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01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: need more of this stuff because it is a county

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: owned facility and when you have two teams like this

1295
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: looking for a big venue. I'm glad that the Bengal

1296
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: stepped up and said, let's get this done. We're excited

1297
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Speaker 2: for We're actually excited for this, and we're going to

1298
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: work really hard behind the scenes to accommodate the students

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: to student athletes from elder and say nex which is

1300
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: you want to hear. And so I'm not sure our

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: ticket sales are. I'm to imagine those twenty thousand go

1302
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. But I know the weather's not going to

1303
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: be supportive. But you know what, You put a garbage

1304
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: bag on, a poncho, some rain gear and you sit

1305
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: out and you're tough enough. Because the players are going

1306
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: to have the time of their life. And that's the

1307
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: coolest part about this is watching these young men get

1308
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: to play on an NFL field. That's something they can

1309
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: remember the regardless of the outcome. That's something you're going

1310
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: to remember the rest of your life. And so that's

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01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: going on right now. First part of the show. I

1312
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: had Tom Gamble on. Yes, that Tom Gambler, Boy Gamble,

1313
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: formerly the two Angry Guy CEO of In Game Sports

1314
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: All the commissioner by the way of the GCL South,

1315
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: that'd be Elder and st X and super excited to

1316
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: have this. But we're talking about the NIL stuff that's

1317
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: going to be settled this week as we're talking Ohio

1318
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: school principles. As members of the Ohio High School Athletic Association,

1319
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: they're voting right now. They're taking a poll a straw pole,

1320
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: if you will, of principles on NIL. As you may recall,

1321
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, they said, no, we're not doing this,

1322
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: we shouldn't pay student athletes. Along came a young man

1323
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: out of Dayton that changed this whole thing, by the

1324
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: name of Jamior Brown. He's only, by the way, as

1325
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: a sophomore, he only put up one thousand yards receiving

1326
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: and fifteen touchdowns. That's all. He's already committed to the

1327
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State University for twenty twenty seven. Maybe because he

1328
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: couldn't get to UC, I'm not quite sure, but that

1329
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: kind of forced our hand at this thing. I don't know,

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01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: I look at college I like, to me, if you're

1331
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: a teenager, should you keep your amateur status for some

1332
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: sort of I don't know, kind of remnant of years past,

1333
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: the quaintness of being Well, you're a student athlete, and

1334
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: it's just it's just so pure.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone around you, the schools, the coaches, the trainers,

1337
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: the booster, everyone makes money off of that performance on

1338
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: the field. And so to me, it is simply an

1339
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: American to not allow someone to use their name, image

1340
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: and likeness to enrich themselves. And well, they're amateur status

1341
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: in the administrators, and that's something the ministrators say, you know,

1342
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: it should be educational, it should be Well then okay, well,

1343
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: why are we hiring coaches like at one hundred thousand

1344
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: dollars a year for high school? Why are media companies

1345
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: making money off this? Why are apparel brands working money office.

1346
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm watching kids with under armored jerseys, Nike with Adidas, right,

1347
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: your high school kid and the schools get money for that,

1348
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: the eighties getting everyone's making money off them except the

1349
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: person who's performing. And it's certainly it's an uncomfortable space

1350
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: between education and commercial enterprise. But there's a contradiction there,

1351
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: and this is really folks that jar way open right now.

1352
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: And the responses from the principled principles, it's it's like

1353
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: damage controls what it is. It's just their arguments make

1354
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: no sense whatsoever. And one of them was about, well,

1355
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's one of the being a musician. You know,

1356
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: these are like, well, okay, you could be a musician

1357
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: and perform and still yeah, but it's like a weird

1358
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: argument that that's their justifications why athletes can etern money

1359
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: like musicians are artists or actors in high school. It's

1360
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: they argument undermines that that position. If I'm talented and

1361
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: can go being a band and make money and go

1362
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: to school, I can probably quit school. But I can

1363
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: go do that, Like how is this any different? And

1364
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: the aspect that you're not to be able to you know,

1365
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: use the image of the school or the school like

1366
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, that seems to hurt the school. So

1367
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: hopefully they sort this thing out. And because we're like

1368
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: one of six states now that are left that don't

1369
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: have a plan, and you gotta have a plan otherwise

1370
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: the market will figure it out for you, and that's

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: not good. We'll go to a news update very latest

1372
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 2: weather is obviously concern too, a little bit of break

1373
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: from the rain, but that's coming back in quick fashion.

1374
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Speaker 2: Jeff Kramerding is here next, speaking of the Bengals. This

1375
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: banks project is going on. This, this is where the

1376
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: city wants to move forward like yesterday, on finishing the banks,

1377
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: and the county is saying, we don't have the budget,

1378
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: the buildings are too tall, and a ferris wheel will

1379
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: disparage the Freedom Center. What this is the problem we

1380
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: have city and county government get around. Honestly, they get

1381
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: along like Israel and Hamas. For God's sakes, figure it out.

1382
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WW Cincinnati don't want to be got slowed down.

1383
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW. We have a plan after twenty years.

1384
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: We've got a plan to finish the banks in the

1385
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: upwards of seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred million

1386
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: dollars in redevelopment of the five remaining lots of the

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: banks over the next fifteen years. So if you're a

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: big fan of those concrete pillars that are sitting there,

1389
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: those peers as we call them, guess what they're going

1390
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: to get covered And over the next fifteen years we'll

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01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: see it's gonna be luxury and market rate residential plus

1392
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: retail hotel, maybe some office space in there. But what's

1393
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: interesting is the county's reaction to this versus the cities

1394
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: reaction to this. And joining the show this morning is

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: council Member jeff Cramerton, who sits on the infrastructure and

1396
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: building and committees like that, so the appropriate guy to

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: talk to in a situation like this. Jeffrey, welcome, How are.

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Speaker 3: You very well? It's great to be here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Before we begin, I know that you are passionately ready

1401
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: for Friday night at not the high school football field

1402
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: at Mason, home of the Commets, but rather Paycorp home

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: of the Bengals. Because you're a proud set You're a

1404
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: proud St X guy, right.

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: No, sir, I am a proud elder pH Yeah, pride

1406
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: of Prate till the pride of Prate still.

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01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: But don't don't you ever a Do you have a

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01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: nephew that plays for Saint X.

1410
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've divided loyalties of Crambering family. We will

1411
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: be there utting on the Elder Panthers to victory, but

1412
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: all cheering for my nephew and Jus and Andrew who's

1413
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: the starting left tackle between ex bombers.

1414
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: Now, you're not gonna wear one of those tire jerseys.

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: It's half Saint X half the Elder, are you.

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: I will not be doing that. I'll be wearing my

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 3: I'll be wearing my. My purple had a boy.

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: A boy had a boy. And hopefully the trader has

1419
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: not that great a game, but an okay game anyway, Uh, creamy,

1420
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: And let's get into this. It's been twenty years since

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: we've got this. We're finally now talking about the next

1422
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: fifteen years. I that just makes my head hurt, considering

1423
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: the gift that we had, which are the two stadia

1424
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: downtown and all that space in order to get people

1425
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: down there. And this thing has been plotting along and

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01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 2: the reason is well, one of the reasons, of course,

1427
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: is the city and the county. And I'll point this

1428
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: out before get to the details of what this buildout

1429
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: is going to be. Hamlet County Commissioner Lisia Rees said,

1430
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: we're kind of broke right now. Denise treet Hoouse concerns

1431
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: over the height of this thing, and other commissioners just

1432
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: don't see it even on the radar right now. Meanwhile,

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: those of you a council want to move forward like

1434
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 2: yesterday on this project. So the time and the money

1435
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: council is on it. Commissioners don't want this. You guys

1436
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: are excited there now. Can you explain and maybe help

1437
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: us understand the difference and enthusiasm between the county and

1438
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: the city.

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I really can't speak for the County commission.

1440
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: I don't know why. There is no answer you. The

1441
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 3: city of Cincinnati is growing. We're excited about that. We're

1442
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: leading the nation and concuting office buildings, residential. There's a

1443
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 3: tremendous demand. I mean, we've talked about this. We know

1444
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: that new bill. It is necessary to meet the demand

1445
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: for downtown. Thanks is a great place to do it.

1446
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: So we're growing the city, we're growing the economy. This

1447
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: council is bullish on it. We want to get done.

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01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: The height of this thing, it'd be up to twenty

1449
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: four stories to make it financially viable. But Denie Street

1450
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: House Commissioned President worries about blocking daylight. And your colleague

1451
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: and our good friend on the show, Seth Walsh, wants

1452
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: even taller buildings. Said, well, let's let's you know, we're

1453
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: a downtown. It's a big city. Let's scrape the sky here,

1454
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: you know, and now we're talking it feels almost like

1455
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: what like they are in the Hyde Park discussion all

1456
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: over again here.

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01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just feel like that. Definitely some similar things.

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01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean, the more people the better, especially for an

1459
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: entertainment district like the Bank, so you have more people

1460
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 3: in there to fuel the restaurants, to fuel the retail.

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: You know, we need more people. A couple of the

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: buildings are most for twenty four stories. Most are under eleven.

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: So to me, this is not very controversial. We need

1464
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: to get moving forward in the critical discussions over the

1465
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks or you know, how are we

1466
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: going to fund this? So I hope we can find

1467
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 3: a situation where we can partner with the county and

1468
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: to the extent that this is not a priority for them,

1469
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, have the city run with it.

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: Here's the shot that's gonna hurt. This is gonna hurt

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: because we're talking about some luxury housing up there as

1472
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: well as market rate. Nothing about affordable housing. We'll get

1473
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: to that in just a second. But essentially someone's going

1474
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: to go, look, why are we giving taxpayer money to

1475
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: subsidize luxury housing. Is that a fair question?

1476
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as I said, there's a demand for downpath,

1477
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: but building a place like the Banks, you know, is

1478
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: going to take some subsidies. That a tax abatement, is

1479
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: that the use of our down tip funds which we

1480
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: use for development. You know, what does that look like?

1481
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 3: Those details are critically important. As I pointed out, that

1482
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 3: was not part of the conversation yesterday. We were just

1483
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 3: talking about planning and the vision. The money. He is

1484
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: always important to make these things happen. That's the critical

1485
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: conversation that's going to happen right now.

1486
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: Where's the affordable housing in US?

1487
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: That from my perspective, it's always supplying demand. We need

1488
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: more house. We don't have enough thousands because we need

1489
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: to build housing. If we have enough housing, the market

1490
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: will take care of itself. So you know, I mean,

1491
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: especially you're talking about rent restrictions which some people are

1492
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 3: talking about, is you know, a restricting the amount of

1493
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: rent that makes developments like this harder and it makes

1494
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: more subside from the taxpayer. So market rates right here,

1495
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: general market rates we're talking about in the city. We

1496
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 3: just need to build more housing.

1497
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you live in a three hundred

1498
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars house and you're doing while you're like, well,

1499
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, now we can do our dream house and

1500
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: maybe you move into a one or two million dollar

1501
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: place like this and that, But that frees up that

1502
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars unit for someone else to get

1503
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: in and realize their dream. That's how the system works.

1504
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: And I understand we need way more affordable housing than

1505
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: we have already in the urban areas, but it doesn't

1506
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: make sense to me to now have a luxury and

1507
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: market rate and market rates are pretty high for this

1508
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: area downtown. I mean, why would you charge somebody six

1509
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a month to have the view of the

1510
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: river that people willing to pay a couple million dollars

1511
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: a art. It doesn't make any sense.

1512
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the dynamic that we're seen throughout the city.

1513
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 3: You know, there's you know, several there's a lot of

1514
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 3: very hot nabors and people are trying to get into them.

1515
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 3: They cancer they're pushing people out, and it's right, it's

1516
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,440
Speaker 3: you know, creating high sale prices, higher rents the neighborhoods

1517
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 3: surrounding that. So that's why we need more housing throughout

1518
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: the city.

1519
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the twenty four stories doesn't seem that

1520
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: tall quite honestly, considering I mean, yeah, we built the

1521
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: great American Insurance Tower with the uh you know, I mean,

1522
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: and I don't remember anyone bitching about that being too hot.

1523
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: Looks great, That's exactly right. We've got a great park

1524
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: down there. You know, We've got Central Park in New York,

1525
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 3: Grant Park in Chicago, alter by very tall buildings. It's

1526
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 3: not aesthetic year of those great parts.

1527
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: I won't hurt are either, well, right, So we have

1528
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: a war going on here between the county and the city.

1529
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: What else is new? Jeff Kramerding is on the show

1530
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: this morning, representing the City of Cincinnati. Wants to move

1531
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: forward quickly soon and build it bigger and bigger than

1532
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: ever before, bigger and better than ever before, with the

1533
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: final phase of the banks over the next fifteen years,

1534
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 2: Whereas Hamlin County commissioners, all three of them, are reluctant

1535
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: to move forward, and this for various reasons. One of them, though,

1536
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: and this is a real serious question here, is you

1537
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: have the Central Riverfront garage there and they're estimating that's

1538
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: about thirty million dollars in costs to rebuild us to

1539
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: redo this, and it is including the development cost. So

1540
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: the county's got a review whether they can fund that.

1541
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: But if you don't have garage infrastructure down there, doesn't

1542
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: this whole thing fall apart.

1543
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you absolutely need to build the garage to build

1544
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: the development on top of it. So in the garages

1545
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: are also using a lot of revenue. The more development

1546
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: we have down there, the more revenue the garages and velved.

1547
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 3: So it's a complex puzzle, but you know it's one

1548
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: that asks me solved to get this movement.

1549
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Well, they're saying they don't have the money.

1550
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, budgets are tied everywhere. I talked Abo

1551
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: about the city's budget many times and concerns about that.

1552
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: The long term solution is growth, more people paying earning stacks,

1553
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 3: more people think health stacks. So we're focusing on how

1554
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: to grow of the city is important. It said that

1555
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 3: the banks has always been a critical portion of this

1556
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 3: region's gross for twenty five years now and we're still

1557
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: talking about we're still in the planning stage is a

1558
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: lot of these lots. So that's very frustrating and we

1559
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: need to move forward.

1560
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: One of the hang ups too. And this is kind

1561
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: of minor. I think it's I don't know, it's kind

1562
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: of picky you and myself. But Alas Shares, who's on

1563
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: the show the other day, said that she's not happy

1564
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: with that ferris wheel or proposing put a permanent ferris

1565
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: wheel downtown in front of the right behind the National

1566
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: Underground Railroad Freedom Center, so where they sing the Queen

1567
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: City sign is that to get pulled out and you

1568
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: put a ferris wheel there, And she says that's disrespectful.

1569
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. That seems like that seems like a

1570
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: stretch to me. You know, there's plenty of stuff around that.

1571
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: There's bars, there's restaurants, you have street vessels and the like.

1572
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: I understand the significance of that museum, but that ferris

1573
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 2: wheel is pretty far away.

1574
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1575
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: I like the ferris wheel. I like attractions. I like

1576
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 3: things that are going to you know, bring families, your

1577
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: families time of a bank. So yeah, I like the

1578
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: ferris wheel. I don't be a problem with location. It

1579
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: seems like it was successful and we had the test pilot,

1580
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: so I have no problem with that being part of

1581
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: this equation. And you know, I think other attractions as

1582
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 3: well would be great.

1583
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1584
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: And I think as a parent, if you bring your

1585
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: kid to the National Underground Railroad Free Center, the Freedom

1586
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: Center in the Railroad Museum, I think it's one of

1587
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: the things we were a kid. You don't want to

1588
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: go because you think it's stupid because you're a kid

1589
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: and you don't realize the significance of this and what

1590
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: you're seeing, especially if you're a person of color, it

1591
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: means a lot more. But at the same time, you go, hey, listen,

1592
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: you know what if you don't act like a fool

1593
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: inside the museum and act right, well, well you can

1594
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: ride the Ferris wheil when you're done. Seems like a

1595
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: good a good carrot to dangle in front of kids

1596
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: that want.

1597
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 3: To do that, right, got the hair cell down there,

1598
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 3: all right, Right, that's a great track.

1599
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: Well that's where you want if you want them next year.

1600
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: And it's across the street too, So I think now

1601
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: we're just looking for stuff to reasons to go. I

1602
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: don't like it. Jeff kramerding As far as this build

1603
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: out goes, it's going to be a high rise residential retail.

1604
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: The parking thing's got to sort that out. Maybe office

1605
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: in there as well too. But the hotel element. Uh,

1606
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: there's concerns saying now we have too many hotels. Is

1607
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: that true?

1608
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we are. We've built a tremendous number of hotels.

1609
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: That's one I've I always ask our experts. I've asked

1610
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: a three c DC many times and continue to have

1611
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: to get in. I am told and presumably these hotels

1612
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: are building these that the need is still there. So

1613
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a great sign for how robust development

1614
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: and how much vibrancy is is around downtown. So, yes,

1615
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 3: we have built a lot. I have always concerns we

1616
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 3: don't want overbuild and have vacant hotels, but we're not

1617
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 3: seeing that in the fact that these hotels are so

1618
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 3: interested it's important. And of course that location really does

1619
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 3: make sense right between the two stadiums. You know, we're

1620
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: competing with other cities for the Behaflis Pittsburgh. You know

1621
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 3: there's people from out the region. We want to draw

1622
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 3: them in for the Reds and banking games. But also

1623
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: you know a team and you know people go on

1624
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: the road to watch their team and they decide which

1625
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: to say they want to go to. And having a

1626
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,919
Speaker 3: hotel right there by the state. Let's get to Cincinnati

1627
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 3: for a weekend and watch the Colts or whatever the

1628
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: team is. So that's great we get from out of town.

1629
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: That's just.

1630
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: Straight money in the banks of the City of Cincinnati

1631
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: and Hamilton County.

1632
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the market dictates, if you need to

1633
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: tell or not. I always hate when politicians, especially decide

1634
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: what the market needs. Now, the market needs what it needs.

1635
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: You know, we have a historic building across from you know,

1636
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Hotel, for example, and you know that was

1637
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: beautiful back in the day when it was designed. But

1638
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: it's been an I store for a long time and

1639
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: they're finally redoing it and going to make it something else.

1640
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: So it's not like these projects when they've surpassed their

1641
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: useful life, don't get converted into something else. It's downtown space.

1642
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: It's certainly not going to happen overnight. The other part

1643
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: of this, too is I was reading something that they

1644
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: did one of those cost benefit analysis or the economic

1645
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: impact from the banks has been about two billion dollars

1646
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: over the year. But I heard that one Oh okay,

1647
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 2: well two billion dollars. That's a great economic impact. But

1648
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: on the other side of your mouth, you're going, well,

1649
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: it's been they've been treading water for like twenty years,

1650
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: and now we need hundreds of millions of dollars in

1651
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: public subsidy to finish this thing. We've got to give

1652
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 2: some subsidy to the luxury condo and apartment owners over there,

1653
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: and the market rate housing and everything else. And so

1654
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: what's the actual return on investmers for taxpayers? Are we

1655
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: are we subsidizing private developers and team owners or is

1656
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: this generally the best practice? I mean, if if there's

1657
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: a two billion dollar economic impact, how could we be

1658
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: treading water for twenty years?

1659
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it comes to the the financials, now we're

1660
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: going to build, that's critical. And again you know we

1661
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 3: were not we were not in those details yesterday. I

1662
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 3: think over the next couple of weeks and months that's

1663
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: going to be critically important. And what types of incentives

1664
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: are we talking I mean, are we talking about, uh,

1665
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: the tax debatement for sex number of years? Are we

1666
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: talking about from sort of TIFFs, the development back into

1667
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 3: the tanks, tun from more developments? The financial details? Uh

1668
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: was not. We're not there yesterday. That something you know,

1669
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 3: I questioned, and and to me, that's the critical part

1670
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: of it, and we talked about building the partnership with

1671
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: the county. Uh, those details and what that structure is

1672
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 3: going to look like and how are we at this

1673
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: moving is important. So uh, that was not yesterday. Yesterday

1674
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: was about you know, Banning and the Vision Council. We're

1675
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: very excitted about it, but you know, now it's time

1676
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 3: to get down to work and hammered out coming over

1677
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: with the deal that is beneficial to the city and taxpayers.

1678
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: And then now all point out too. It took twenty

1679
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: years because of that awful Bengals lease we had wouldn't

1680
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: allow us to build anything over the size of a

1681
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: bag house or crying out loud, and finally we got

1682
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: that blown up and move in the right direction, which

1683
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 2: is why now you have twenty years ago you could

1684
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: add all this stuff down there, and it's been sitting

1685
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: vacant and empty, and it looks ridiculous when you go

1686
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: through the parking lot down there in the garage and

1687
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: see all these concrete pillars and piers sticking out of

1688
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: the ground. It's just you look, you look at it

1689
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: and you go, this doesn't make any sense because it's

1690
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: not like it was five it's been two decades.

1691
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunate that we keep coming back to that

1692
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 3: sales tax increase, because yeah, there was the terms of

1693
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: the lease, but when voters passed that in nineteen ninety six,

1694
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: they were, from my perspective, promise, you know, two stadiums

1695
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: in an entertainment district in a marina and uh, you

1696
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: know when when that when the tax came out, there

1697
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: was you know, barely enough to stay for the stadium. So,

1698
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: I mean taxpayers were frustrated. They thought that was that

1699
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 3: that was the solution, and that was not been I think,

1700
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: I know that's been part of the kind of the

1701
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 3: company financial woes, and that's part of where we're at

1702
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: twenty five years later. But you know that was twenty

1703
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: five years ago. We're in the situation that we're in,

1704
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 3: and we move forward.

1705
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, finally, Jeff Kramer ding I look at this and go, well, okay,

1706
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollar bills. I've got a lot going

1707
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: on as a final piece of the puzzle for the banks,

1708
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: and hopefully it just puts everything over the top here.

1709
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: But the timeline to get this thing approved for council

1710
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: anyway and totally excludes what's going on with the county

1711
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: as you're trying to get this thing together and when

1712
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, So just a couple of months and

1713
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: vote on the zoning changes and everything else. That's a

1714
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 2: pretty fast and aggressive timeline.

1715
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a thing.

1716
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1717
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 3: We've got our we've got some tools that are always

1718
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 3: available towards tax debatment. So our budget has to be

1719
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 3: done spring and summer. So if we're talking about a

1720
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 3: financialist from the city, that's our timeline. So I reminded

1721
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: everything out that yesterday. That's the reason I said that

1722
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: the hard work has to begin as soon if we're

1723
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: gonna get this done.

1724
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 2: Jeff Primating on the show this morning on seven hundred

1725
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: double that it sounds like a hard to tell, but

1726
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: a majority of council wants to move forward on this one,

1727
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: and you're gonna butt heads with the county commissioners said,

1728
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: we're broke and it's not a priority. So we'll see

1729
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: how this works out. Hopefully we get this thing done

1730
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: in short time. Is there going to be negotiations within

1731
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: the county and the city on this Are they happening now?

1732
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: Yes. The The next step, which we did talk about

1733
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 3: yesterday was meetings between the county administration and the city administration.

1734
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: I think that's going to begin next week or the

1735
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: week after and really talk about, you know what this

1736
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 3: structure looks like, ideally would be looking at, you know,

1737
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: sort of a ad ominibus agreement. You know what the

1738
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: county's going to pay for and what the sea's gonna

1739
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 3: pay for, and do it across the state. You know,

1740
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 3: that's the stretch that you're talking about. You that there

1741
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: is lots of which, lots of the priority, Which was

1742
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: that you do first? And what are those agree it's

1743
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: going to look like. I think that's where we're rather

1744
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. And that's given me the

1745
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 3: difficult part.

1746
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, hopefully we can get moving forward here,

1747
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: find the money and get this thing done. Ferris Wheels,

1748
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: it's too high, it's too deep, but enough excuses. It's unsightly,

1749
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: and it gives us a bad look and has been

1750
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: giving us a bad look for twenty years. Get this

1751
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: damn thing done. Jeff, all the best, Thanks again, and

1752
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: good luck tomorrow Friday. I guess I should say it

1753
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: is only Wednesday for fect. I want the weekend now,

1754
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: damn it be well. Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Got a

1755
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: news update and more to follow afterwards. Here on seven

1756
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: hundred WW. And that's Sarah least snort report on the

1757
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: way next seven hundred WW. All right, Sarah's here. I'm

1758
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: not expecting much to day. She's tired of crabby and

1759
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 2: crampy and everything else.

1760
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 4: How you doing?

1761
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: How did you know about my crampiness? I'm actually in

1762
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: a really good mood today.

1763
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 4: You are?

1764
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: Are you just a couple of days away until I'm

1765
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: offer an entire week from h Look at you? One

1766
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: whole week of vacation coming up, baby, we're counting it down.

1767
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: Are you going to stay off Instagram for a week?

1768
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: Hell no, We're not going out far and just got

1769
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: to keep creating exactly.

1770
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1771
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: I love me my social media. Do we want to

1772
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: start with high school football or professional? I got big

1773
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: news in both.

1774
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with a high school one, because that's

1775
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: the first and foremost. Here with a snort report with

1776
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: Sarah Elise. You're on seven hundred WOWS Social Media v

1777
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: Sports and we have Elder Saint X at pay Corps. Friday,

1778
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 2: I think twenty thousand tickets went on sale early. They're

1779
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: all gone how exciting was that? Could they fill it

1780
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: up with sixty five k I think they're just I

1781
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 2: don't know why they decided twenty to cap it, but.

1782
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe and this is what I I'm guessing here, volunteer

1783
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: help for the concessions that could be it. That is

1784
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: a big stadium to fill up for.

1785
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: It would have been cool because I think you could

1786
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 2: filled you got football.

1787
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: There the next day and night. So yeah, I think

1788
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be setting up early the next day

1789
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: for the ten am lives.

1790
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: Think as you're playing for sane x or Elder and

1791
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 2: you're on the field, how cool is that.

1792
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited for these kids, their families, the schools,

1793
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: are city. I feel like this is a big win

1794
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: all around for really everybody.

1795
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, you know, this is easily

1796
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: going to be the best football played there since Week

1797
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 2: two exactly.

1798
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: At least we'll see some winning Cincinnati. But what a

1799
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: big weekend for Cincinnati sports though. Man, we got all

1800
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: kind of stuff going on. There's so much to get Yeah.

1801
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: So Katie Blackburn is saying that every effort with this

1802
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: game on Friday is going to be made to make

1803
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: sure this is a wonderful experience for students, athletes, their families,

1804
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: the schools, and the broader community. I mean, this is

1805
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 1: going to bring in so many people. And she goes

1806
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: on to say the Bengals are thinking everyone for their

1807
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: outstanding efforts across the board, so good luck to both tell.

1808
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 2: I was honestly, I gotta give them credit because you

1809
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: haveten to hammer them. But I was honestly surprised at

1810
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: how quickly the Bengals came around said yeah, let's do

1811
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: very quick. It's very cool.

1812
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: I feel like this was a talk for This was

1813
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: a conversation for what twenty four hours.

1814
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: In no way, they can't act that fast on anything,

1815
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: because they did.

1816
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: It was originally going to be played in Mason with

1817
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: seven thousand people. Yeah, and everybody missed out. So here

1818
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: we go, paycord to the rescue and Friday night it

1819
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: is holy Grail says they're going to be showing the

1820
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: game so in case you can't make it to the stadium,

1821
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: they're going to open their doors for that. And I

1822
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: believe we're going to have this game on Fox Sports

1823
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: thirteen sixty. Is that correct?

1824
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: I believe.

1825
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: So there you go. This all came together so quick.

1826
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I love it. And then do you know where they

1827
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: looking for volunteers to help out with concessions.

1828
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: They're probably okay with with the boosters from both sides

1829
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: people to do that, I think, so yeah, I don't know, yeah,

1830
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: but it's going to go on and whether it's not

1831
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: looking good, but hey, you're planning a Paycorns.

1832
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 1: You're you're these kids are gonna love it rain or

1833
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: shine playing at Paycor's gonna be so cool coming out

1834
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: of that tunnel. And they say they're gonna be parking

1835
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: easy to ten bucks for parking down there. So if

1836
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: you're worried about the high pricing, if way too much

1837
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: for westsiders, ten dollars Now I don't know which garage

1838
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: is the are gonna be ten dollars.

1839
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's for renting a bus.

1840
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, how that's all going to work out. But they're

1841
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: saying ten dollars parking, so the bus good. That's the report.

1842
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Also trending in high school football, TAFT being blamed for

1843
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: some damage at the Indian Hill locker room. This was

1844
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: trending last night, it's trending this morning. Uh, they're being

1845
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 1: accused of damaging the walls from the game lost Friday,

1846
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: when Taft did not win that one against Indian Hill.

1847
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1848
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: I saw some of the footage and it's it's not

1849
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: just a couple holes in the drivable. I mean they

1850
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: literally look like they're doing it. Looked like property brothers

1851
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,520
Speaker 2: are coming in to do a remodel.

1852
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: So Indian Hill is saying that Taft caused this damage. However,

1853
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: last night doing a deep dive into this whole thing

1854
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: because I am obsessed with this story. I'm so obsessed.

1855
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: You have no idea, Senior investigative sports reporter Sarah Lee.

1856
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: Literally, I'm so invested and I want to know everything.

1857
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: There was a coach weighing in and he said, hey,

1858
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: week six, we were there, the damage was already there.

1859
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm a coach. We were there weeks Yeah.

1860
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: So it's like, why has this just been sitting one

1861
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: if that is the case. Also, there is a video

1862
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: trending online of these kids from Taft coming into the

1863
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: locker room about five forty on that Friday night. They've

1864
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: got their backpacks and they're all, like, you know, in

1865
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: their warm up gear. They're not even in their football

1866
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: unieds yet.

1867
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: The sledgehammers, not that.

1868
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: And you can see them kind of like walking into

1869
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the visitor locker room space and in the background or

1870
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 1: the damaged walls. Really, the damaged walls behind.

1871
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: This should be pretty easy to corroborate since there are

1872
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: no what how many games between week six and now

1873
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: that someone go, yeah, we're in that locker rooms.

1874
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: This should be solved very quickly by the end of

1875
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: the day, I hope.

1876
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: So it would be seems easy to produce evidence to find.

1877
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Out last night this took up my whole feet and

1878
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: Taft parents are speaking out there, like, look, my son

1879
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: plays there. He told us that this damage was there

1880
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: when they showed up. Really, uh huh, So it's it's

1881
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: not like you don't go in the locker room and

1882
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: clean it. They would know the damage right away. Why

1883
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: would they wait until Taft was there too?

1884
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1885
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Why would they wait until Tuesday to speak out about

1886
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: something that allegedly happened on Friday when the two teams

1887
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: played each other at Indian Hill.

1888
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Interesting, but I'm again I'm so upsetsed. Weird story. It's

1889
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: such a weird story because I thought, okay, well.

1890
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Well, and it's definitely gotten deep because this.

1891
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Taft loss was controversial, fumble goal I scored very much

1892
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: pissed off and it fits a timeline and it's a

1893
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: bad election.

1894
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: On Taft, is you know, with what Indian Hill is

1895
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: saying that they did. So parents are like, absolutely not,

1896
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that's not what happened. My son is telling me that

1897
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 1: the damage was already there. And if you see the

1898
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: social media video, it's trending everywhere all of our Facebook, X,

1899
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Instagram and and now the news articles are picking it up.

1900
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: It's you see the wall, the damaged walls behind the kids.

1901
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: So I stand with Taft on this one as of

1902
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: right now, that's how I stand with. I stand with

1903
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 1: tot how's my support?

1904
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

1905
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: Well, based off of what parents are saying, what the

1906
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: coaches are saying, what the social media video shows, right,

1907
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: it shows that Taft is innocent.

1908
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: So if Taff I'm guilty and they proclaim innocence here,

1909
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: then that's an even bigger.

1910
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: We're going to have another, uh you know conversation.

1911
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: Many people want to go play at Taft because of

1912
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: what happens in the extra early right, and now if

1913
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 2: they're if they do this on the road, how many

1914
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: teams are going to want to play taft.

1915
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Based off of what I saw, it looks like they're

1916
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 1: innocent in this situation.

1917
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: But you better hope that's the case. If not that,

1918
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: I truly hope it's the case. I want to believe

1919
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Indian he'll make that. It doesn't make any sense.

1920
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: And also like who did this?

1921
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Who caused the damage to the law and in what

1922
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: twelve weeks?

1923
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, especially if your coach is speaking out

1924
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: like okay, we were there week six and it was

1925
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: already it was already like yeah, which they played?

1926
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: Which did they?

1927
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1928
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Again? This should be very easy to solve. And people

1929
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: are asking for cameras from the locker room. It's like, well,

1930
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: you can't have that up there because dudes are you know,

1931
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: changing getting into their uniform, so you can't do that.

1932
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: All right, But this looked like it was just a

1933
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: taking off of a cell phone, like the guys coming

1934
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: in and it just the time stamp on It was

1935
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: five forty three pm.

1936
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 2: So slowly with Keith Morrison in the start report this

1937
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: morning here at.

1938
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Seven, Like I said, I was watching Dancing with the

1939
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Stars last night, but this grabbed my attention so quick.

1940
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no idea what's going on dancing

1941
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: with the stars, because now I'm very much focused on

1942
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: these two teams right here, and what the drama is.

1943
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: There no dust on the hands of the player? Wooh

1944
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 2: so oh that peske crowbar? All right? What else is

1945
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: going on?

1946
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: Also trending with our Cincinnati Bengals. Yesterday, no practice. They're

1947
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: getting back to it today, but they did announce that

1948
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: I Show Speed is the ruler of the jungle for

1949
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: this Sunday when they host the Patriots, the hottest team

1950
01:31:58,920 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: in football.

1951
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: I also had to look up this guy because I

1952
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 2: was like, Iso Speed, what is show See gamer?

1953
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: He's a gamer. He's got forty four million followers on TikTok.

1954
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 2: I knew that, you didn't.

1955
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: He's from Cincinnati, he's only twenty years old, graduated from

1956
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: Purcell Marion and people love this guy. But can he tackle?

1957
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Can he suit up?

1958
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: All you have to do is sit in the throne.

1959
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do.

1960
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: So he's going to be getting everyone hyped up before

1961
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: that game. Okay, cool, he's very well loved. I did

1962
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: some stocking this morning. I'm like, yeah, he's a cool dude,

1963
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: so good good for him. Someone who will not be

1964
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: there on Sunday Jamar Chase because his suspension appeal was denied.

1965
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: We saw that coming.

1966
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: The proof is in the footage.

1967
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 2: I said, a game, a game, it's a game, but

1968
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 2: he denied it. What about that conspiracy?

1969
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Well, remember when they asked him. They're like, okay, well

1970
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: did you spit on Jalen Ramsey or not? He goes, no, no, no,

1971
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I'll never spit. I ain't spent on nobody. That's what

1972
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: he said. I ain't spent on no flying We saw

1973
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: the spit. FO nineteen was like, here's the spit.

1974
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: One magic loogie in that one magic for another player.

1975
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't think there are a second angle on it.

1976
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: We only had the one angle. Was there a second spinner?

1977
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: Grassy Chuck Nol, what about it?

1978
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: This is why I appreciate that you appreciate Seinfeld, but

1979
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: I also with everybody. I had to pause the video,

1980
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: I had to zoom in, and I'm taking screenshots and

1981
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's really hard to see the spit, but

1982
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: the spit is there.

1983
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1984
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: There definitely a spit. There's something flying there.

1985
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: And he's also not going to be getting his weekly

1986
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: paycheck of a cool four hundred and forty eight thousand bucks.

1987
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 5: So you're saying, Tony, I know that's pretty close to

1988
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 5: what you get from my heart. So so you're saying that,

1989
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 5: no Burrow, no, no Jamar. So you're saying, there's a chance.

1990
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 1: So could you imagine the hottest team in football is

1991
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 1: coming to Cincinnati?

1992
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1993
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: No, Trey Hendrickson, no, Shamar Stewart, No, no Jamar Chase,

1994
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: no Joe Burrow. Who else are we missing?

1995
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1996
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: Cam Taylor Britt We just found out he's having season

1997
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: ending foot surgery. Thank god, I know I'm missing a

1998
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: bunch of others. I did just say Shamar Stewart, doesn't.

1999
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 5: Stewart Shamar Stewart, Well, I mean guys that can actually

2000
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 5: having the worst ever guys, We don't you know if

2001
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 5: you're Shamar Stewart or what.

2002
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Stone said?

2003
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 4: This one out?

2004
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: We just play like four guys the other and these.

2005
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,879
Speaker 1: Guys from SEXT stick around.

2006
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: They're left handed. How's that we'll make it fair and

2007
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: only win by by two scores? There, So Zach.

2008
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Taylor is defending his guide Jamar Chase. He goes, look,

2009
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: making one mistake doesn't disregard everything. The cover up, That's

2010
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: what I was talking about the other day, and he goes, look,

2011
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: it's one thing to do it. Yeah, that it's a

2012
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: bad thing. He goes, but why did you lie about it?

2013
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: Especially when there are cameras that don't I'm sorry at

2014
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Akrocer Stadium.

2015
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 2: So anyway, gate continues, So Lord sing over the Bengals.

2016
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 2: The only thing that Bengals can win Sunday's a coin toss.

2017
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: That's about it.

2018
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes.

2019
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 2: I watch him come out and rull New England. We

2020
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 2: never know.

2021
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 1: Every week is a surprise.

2022
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: I need a lot of help as a Bills fan.

2023
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I lot of help and help.

2024
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 2: But no, they're not need the Bills to help. I

2025
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: need our Bengals to well.

2026
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Things are looking good for joke last week seven on

2027
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: seven's this week eleven on eleven's boy. Just like that,

2028
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you go, will we see him

2029
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Night against Lamar Jackson? The no and the Ravens.

2030
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 1: Probably not. Don't get your hopes up. Likely going to

2031
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: be Joe Flacco as long as his thrown shoulders. Okay,

2032
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: he's been kind of iffy too.

2033
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: When you just shut him down. At this point, I

2034
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: don't know.

2035
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.

2036
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 2: I know he wants to play, but if the future

2037
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: windows still open, why would you risk.

2038
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 1: That it could get so much worse to for this guy?

2039
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll see Jake Brown next week.

2040
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Like the playoffs, the teams blocked the playoffs and they

2041
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 2: rest everybody in the last week or two, why not

2042
01:35:59,560 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: do that?

2043
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it's a big weekend. And then of

2044
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: course FC Cincinnati is finally back after two weeks off,

2045
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: hosting Miami five o'clock at TQL. They're telling everybody to

2046
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: wear blue. This is going to be big. It's a

2047
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: one or done. You move you win, you move on.

2048
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it's one. That's I'll tell you what.

2049
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: That's get this done against Lio Messi.

2050
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 2: Well, they got the monkey out the back with Columbus.

2051
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: That was big.

2052
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: Now they got their confidence going and they're like, look

2053
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: we can we can beat them. So let's keep going,

2054
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 1: let's keep rolling.

2055
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Get Messy in there. Yeah, a little snow might help.

2056
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: Sunday could be a really great day for this city.

2057
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Go to and two. Yeah, eat the Patriots and Miami.

2058
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 3: Would be good.

2059
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: That'd be good. They got their number before It's not

2060
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati hasn't beaten them, so I believe that they

2061
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: can get this even with MESSI let's see what goes on.

2062
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 2: And they got a little confident, little swag going in

2063
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 2: this thing. It's going to be packed.

2064
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: This is pretty cool. Yeah, gonna be a nice weekend too.

2065
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 2: We need some one of our teams to win here. Yes,

2066
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: the Bearcats got b YU coming in. Yeah, big night

2067
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 2: on a front day night, do in heritage. I mean

2068
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: you got football night on Saturday night. Yeah, there's so

2069
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: much going on top the bottom. The best sports events

2070
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: in the city. Number one is the start at the bottom. Bengals.

2071
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: Bengals at the bottom.

2072
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

2073
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 2: And what what's above them?

2074
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I put f C Cincinnati at the top.

2075
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: At the top, f C Cincinnati is they're rolling. They're

2076
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: the best situation right now.

2077
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 2: What about Older Saint X. That's a big event that

2078
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: made the biggest sports event of the weekend.

2079
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you think so? Do you think they'll have a

2080
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: bigger attendance a.

2081
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: Lot of Well than no, But I think I think

2082
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 2: on Friday night, FIDA Night game is going to be

2083
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: the big event between.

2084
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Them and FCC. They're going to bring the most positive

2085
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: vibes this weekend.

2086
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: UC is up there, but you know, coming off now

2087
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 2: loss again, so now they got a street going and

2088
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 2: that's not good.

2089
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Cyclones set a record yesterday for their kids game.

2090
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: I thought this was really cool. I don't know if

2091
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 1: you saw this, but yesterday at ten thirty in the morning,

2092
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: child Labors, so a bunch of kids from all over

2093
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the tri state attended. Twelve thousand, six hundred and eighty

2094
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: seven was the attendance at the arena yesterday.

2095
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 2: Twelve eight sixty seven sixty Thank you.

2096
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: They said it's the second largest attended game on a

2097
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: weekday in Cyclones history. How cool is that all the

2098
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: kids got a lesson in hockey?

2099
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: You don't have to go to school.

2100
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2101
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: Can you imagine They're all like, I'll go, I'll go.

2102
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 2: All this focus with pund of the test and the

2103
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 2: test you got to show up and go discos. We're

2104
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: gonna watch a.

2105
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Hockey game, right And there was no damage to the

2106
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: locker round.

2107
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 2: No one beat that up. That is going to be

2108
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: the story next week now that you've uncovered it here again.

2109
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm so invested. As soon as you hear something let

2110
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: me know in case I'm like not on social media

2111
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: for a moment.

2112
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 4: Ye.

2113
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 2: When it comes to exposing the truth, Sarah LEAs is here.

2114
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: I stand with to try.

2115
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: Exposing yourself here on the show. The proof is in

2116
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 2: the social media fans handle this. Oh stop, Sarah back

2117
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,799
Speaker 2: on the Kid Chris Show tomorrow. I think that was insulting.

2118
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 2: Why do you hear?

2119
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 3: Hear?

2120
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 2: And Chris Chris Morning need to break coming up next?

2121
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 2: Oh the girl needs it right now. All right, let's

2122
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: go big sports weekend ahead. Let's not screw it up,

2123
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 2: shall we. Scott Sloan show on this Wednesday morning. Uh,

2124
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: we've got Willy on the way in just a few

2125
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: minutes on seven hundred w WT. Since then,