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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: It is a Friday afternoon in Cincinnati, and a big

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Speaker 3: football weekend is about to begin. Huge high school games

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Speaker 3: coming up tonight, the bear Cats against the Arizona Wildcats

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Speaker 3: in an important Big twelve game coming up tomorrow at noon,

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Speaker 3: and of course the game we are going to get

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Speaker 3: you set for over the next three hours, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh Steelers coming up on Sunday at one

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the Steel City. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rally show presented by Just

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Speaker 3: Bear Chicken. Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. We are at

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Speaker 3: our Friday afternoon home, the on the Ryan Eatery here

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Speaker 3: in downtown Cincinnati. If you have not been here before,

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Speaker 3: the downtown Kroger on Court and Walnut. We are on

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Speaker 3: thirty minutes earlier than usual today because of a scheduling conflict,

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Speaker 3: So it's a two thirty to five thirty show this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: as is always the case, will be joined by a

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Speaker 3: very special guest. He'll be here from four thirty to

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Speaker 3: five thirty and he is a fan favorite. Dave Lapham,

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Speaker 3: the guy known as Money Mack Evan McPherson.

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Speaker 4: Money Mac, no question Dan he is. He is a

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Speaker 4: fan favorite, and he's because he can be a hero,

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Speaker 4: you know, or a goat, I guess, depending on the

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Speaker 4: way his kicks go. But he's executed at an extremely

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Speaker 4: high level. I mean he makes money Mack. It's almost

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Speaker 4: like automatic money Mack. It's you just you just start

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Speaker 4: And he's got a huge leg got He's got such range,

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Speaker 4: credible range. I mean he can hit from fifty five

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Speaker 4: sixty yards. He shit a fifty seven yarder this year.

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Speaker 4: He made a sixty yarder that was nullified by penalty,

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Speaker 4: so he can kick it a mile literally and very

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Speaker 4: popular with his teammates. Cincinnati Bengals are glad to have

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Speaker 4: a player of that caliber. Darren Simmons, a special teams

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Speaker 4: coach loves him, loves him to death, and he's a

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Speaker 4: weapon on kickoffs as well. He can manipulate the football

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Speaker 4: like a very few can. He can do a lot

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Speaker 4: of things with that football.

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Speaker 3: He's got eight game winning field goals in his Bengals career,

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Speaker 3: the most recent against the team the Bengals have played

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Speaker 3: this Sunday, to Pittsburgh Steelers. They met on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: almost exactly a month ago. Cincinnati won the game on

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Speaker 3: a kick by money back with seven seconds to go.

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Speaker 3: And let's face it, if not for that victory over

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, we might be thinking that this game

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Speaker 3: on Sunday doesn't mean much. But it does because of

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Speaker 3: the state of the AFC North. In a normal year, honestly,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals would probably be out of it. Yeah, Normally

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Speaker 3: you'd expect Pittsburgh or Baltimore to be seven or two,

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Speaker 3: maybe the other team six and three, But not this year.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is five and four on top of the division

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Speaker 3: and the Steelers are reeling. They've lost three out of

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Speaker 3: their last four. Baltimore is coming on. The Ravens have

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Speaker 3: won three straight, but that's after a one in five start,

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Speaker 3: so they're four and five and who knows, Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 3: already missed a couple of games with a hamstring strain.

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Speaker 3: He could tweak it again this week, sure, and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens would be in jeopardy if that happens. So the

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Speaker 3: Bengals still have a shot. They can climb right back

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Speaker 3: oh head to head against Pittsburgh. Let's hear from Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase on the importance of Sunday's game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, our division is why open. I think

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh's five and four at this point. We play them

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Speaker 5: this week, so you know, everything is still there in

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Speaker 5: I think we'll be at least in it until the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's muscling if you want to win AFC.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's approaching any differently because of.

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Speaker 6: The no I mean you can't approach another game differently

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Speaker 6: because it's muscling game that approach every game the same.

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Speaker 6: You want to win every game, so I approach every

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Speaker 3: Lap. We've been working together for fifteen years now, you

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Speaker 3: know me. I hate the expression must win. Right when

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Speaker 3: and it's common for people to do that. Sure, I

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Speaker 4: Week, absolutely, Dan, I mean, it's got to have a game.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Cincinnati Bengals have really no choice. They

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Speaker 4: have to come out and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. Not

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Speaker 4: an easy task, and to beat them in Pittsburgh makes

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Speaker 4: it doubly difficult. They play well in front of their

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Speaker 4: It's a love fest with Mike Tomlin the Pittsburgh Steeler

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Speaker 4: easy task. The Bengal's gonna have to play, in my mind,

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Speaker 4: the best game they've played to date. This season in

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Speaker 4: order to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh, and they

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Speaker 4: come off the bye week, you know it'd be timely

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Speaker 4: to do that. You know, you have a bye week

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Speaker 4: to make some adjustments, tweak some things, figure some things out,

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Speaker 4: you know, find out what you do well and emphasize

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Speaker 4: the best way to get on a run is to

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Speaker 4: beat the Pittsburgh steel Is at Pittsburgh. That's Game one,

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Speaker 4: five weeks. So the Cincinnati Bengals are going to have

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Speaker 3: Not bad against a schedule like that, or even three,

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Speaker 3: and it's the right three Pittsburgh Baltimore, Baltimore. If they

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Speaker 4: North, absolutely, and if they do, if they win, they'd

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Speaker 4: One of those games, I mean that that is that's

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Speaker 4: just what the doctor ordered. That would be a must,

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Speaker 4: that would be a requirement if you not if your

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Speaker 3: The Steelers started the year four and one, but they've

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Speaker 3: dropped three out of four. That streak began with a

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Speaker 3: Thirty three to thirty one was the final score. We

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Speaker 3: think of the Steelers for great defense, but it's been

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Speaker 3: the NFL in yards allowed, they are dead last and

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Speaker 3: passing yards allowed. They had a lot of sacks, They've

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Speaker 3: when we come back, that's what we are going to discuss.

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Speaker 3: Are the Steelers still the Steelers on defense? This is

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Speaker 3: the Bengals pep Rally Show live from the on the

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Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Dan Ord and Dave Lapham back on the Bengals pep

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Speaker 3: Rawley Show, presented by Just Their Chicken on thirty minutes

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Speaker 3: earlier than usual this week. It's a two thirty to

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Speaker 3: next week. So keep that in mind as we come

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Speaker 3: Court and walnutt. It's the Bengals and Steelers this Sunday

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Speaker 3: at one o'clock. When you think of Pittsburgh, we tend

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Speaker 3: to think of Blitzburg. Great defenses, and they've got a

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Speaker 3: of Pittsburgh, it's that physicality on defense. Let's hear from

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Speaker 8: We know this is a team that you know they

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Speaker 8: And I believe that that that's there, that organization's motto,

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Speaker 8: you know, being being very hard nosed and you know,

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Speaker 8: So for us, we're getting back to again mastering the basics.

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Speaker 8: After everybody got fresh and everybody got healthy, we're getting

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Speaker 4: As we know how so.

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Speaker 3: I focused on the physicality on defense before we heard

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Speaker 3: on offense because in that first meeting a month ago,

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Speaker 3: we saw a lot of a sixth offensive lineman coming

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Speaker 3: three hundred pounds. He's really an extra tackle. It's like

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Speaker 4: It is I mean, uh, Darnel Washington, like you say,

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Speaker 4: he's a moose.

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Speaker 4: And it's a tackle that has great feet. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's a he's a good athlete. He he's not a

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Speaker 4: He can run good routes, he can catch the football,

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Speaker 4: You watch tape of Darnel Washington, he is moving people

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Speaker 4: I do it yesterday. I mean, like, uh, the ankor

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Speaker 3: So the Bengals protected him him extremely well. In that

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Speaker 3: Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Dan Horde, He's Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 9: like zone, you know, and that kind of became apparent

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Speaker 9: in the analysis afterwards. But the corollary to that I

431
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Speaker 9: would see the second part beyond just not being able

432
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Speaker 9: to proficiently adjust and get better once you figured out

433
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Speaker 9: what's going on is they never figured out the pass

434
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Speaker 9: rush either. They never applied any pressure on Joe Flacco.

435
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Speaker 9: He dropped back forty seven times. I think he got

436
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Speaker 9: sacked twice. He's in his forties, he can't move. And

437
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Speaker 9: if you can't get to him and you allow him

438
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Speaker 9: to get the ball off as quickly as he did,

439
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Speaker 9: as good as those two wide receivers are and I

440
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Speaker 9: think below the line as the Steelers are on the secondary,

441
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Speaker 9: it's gonna make for a long night. And that was

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Speaker 9: exactly the formula that was followed throughout the course of

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Speaker 9: that game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. I mean, you look at

445
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers and you think about the Pittsburgh Steelers

446
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: pass rush comes to mind immediately. You're just catching up

447
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Speaker 4: talking with Dan earlier about playing against the Pittsburgh Steelers

448
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 4: back in the seventies and early eighties with the steel

449
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Speaker 4: Curtain defense. Oh my god. And they could bring the heat.

450
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Speaker 4: Any one of them could have a multiple sack game.

451
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Speaker 4: You know, you got Fast Holmes and Joe Green at

452
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Speaker 4: defensive tackle Dwight White on one flank and Ernie yeah

453
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Speaker 4: Else Greenwood, big, big, long, tall, strong Elsie Greenwood on

454
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Speaker 4: the other side. I mean it was those were challenges,

455
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Speaker 4: those those were big time challenges. This Pittsburgh Steeler defensive

456
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Speaker 4: football team. Mike tom has been around a long time

457
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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. You've seen a lot of great defenses. What

458
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Speaker 4: does he think about this crew?

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Speaker 9: Well, he was really sold at the start of the year,

460
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Speaker 9: these now departed one Thornhill, who they've already gotten rid of.

461
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Speaker 9: They had an interview session with him media members up

462
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Speaker 9: there at training camp, and he talked about how great

463
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Speaker 9: this defense is going to be. He was just gushing

464
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Speaker 9: about how awesome it was and how it was going

465
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Speaker 9: to set records, this, that, and the other thing. Tomlin

466
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Speaker 9: goes on the morning show for the flagship station forty

467
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Speaker 9: hours later and they asked him about that, like, do

468
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Speaker 9: you want to tamp that down at all? They asked

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Speaker 9: it that way.

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Speaker 3: Is is this a little extreme?

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Speaker 9: Do you want to tamp down that conversation all? He goes, No,

472
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Speaker 9: I think we can be historic. So he ratcheted up

473
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Speaker 9: the speculation, and you know, you get out there and

474
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Speaker 9: you play against a team that can throw the ball

475
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Speaker 9: with a smart quarterback and good wide receivers, and you

476
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Speaker 9: get exposed passing the ball after they had been dealing

477
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Speaker 9: with a carryover from the end of last year where

478
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Speaker 9: they couldn't stop the run against the Jets and some

479
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 9: other teams earlier in the season, and right away he

480
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Speaker 9: kind of looked dumb, and the entire defense looks silly

481
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Speaker 9: for propping up this notion that they were going to

482
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Speaker 9: be to your earlier points akin to what we saw

483
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Speaker 9: in the seventies or the nineties or.

484
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Speaker 4: The early two thousands.

485
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Speaker 9: Around here. They are not that they are not closed,

486
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Speaker 9: and especially in the secondary. I think they just miscalculated

487
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Speaker 9: what they were getting in some of the veterans they

488
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Speaker 9: were requiring. Obviously they swung and missed on Thornhill. They

489
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Speaker 9: thought that Ramsey could be a safety corner hybrid. Clearly

490
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Speaker 9: he's still got the safety instincts and skills. He can't

491
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Speaker 9: run with good wide receivers anymore.

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Speaker 3: And Slay was just shot.

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Speaker 9: You didn't hear a lot of people complaining in Philadelphia

494
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Speaker 9: down the turnpike going, oh my god, we lost Darius Slay.

495
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Speaker 9: No wonder you saw what happened when he came here,

496
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Speaker 9: and they're trying to puff up Brandon Eckles like he

497
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Speaker 9: can be the answer.

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Speaker 3: He was a nice little signing.

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Speaker 9: But let's not get carried away and think he's going

500
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Speaker 9: to be mel Blunt if you want to continue with

501
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Speaker 9: the seventies analogies, right, he ain't that. He's not even

502
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Speaker 9: to Shaye Townsend. So like that's the biggest problem.

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Speaker 3: Tim Ben's is our guest. This is year nineteen from

504
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Speaker 3: my Tomlin in Pittsburgh. He went to two Super Bowls

505
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Speaker 3: in the first four years of his tenure, winning one.

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Speaker 3: That means no Super Bowls in the last fourteen years.

507
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Speaker 3: Hasn't had a losing season, as everybody knows, but there's

508
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Speaker 3: been a lot of a game over five hundred cup

509
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Speaker 3: three seasons where they finished exactly five hundred. I say

510
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Speaker 3: all of that to bring up this. After the Giants

511
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Speaker 3: fired Brian Dabole, some columnists nationally suggested, you know what,

512
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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin would be the perfect guy in New York.

513
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's time for a change of scenery. Forum. How

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Speaker 3: would most Steeler fans react at this point if that

515
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Speaker 3: went down? Did welcome in?

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Speaker 9: I think the majority would welcome it. The majority of

517
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Speaker 9: people I think who are Steelers fans are ready for change.

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Speaker 3: They don't see an.

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Speaker 9: End to the perpetual wow, slightly above mediocre level of

520
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Speaker 9: football that they've.

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Speaker 10: Put out there.

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Speaker 9: There's been a lot of nine and eights and ten

523
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Speaker 9: and sevens that have been baked up to feel better

524
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Speaker 9: than what they are. It's not just a Tomlins streak.

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Speaker 10: By the way.

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Speaker 9: That streak of non losing seasons goes back to when

527
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Speaker 9: Roethlisberger was drafted towards the end of the Cower era

528
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Speaker 9: in two thousand and four, so it even pre dates

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Speaker 9: Mike it's even longer than his run here. But you know,

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Speaker 9: I think it's also I made the hockey reference before.

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Speaker 9: There's an analogy that a lot of people are drawing

532
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Speaker 9: that the Penguins just got away from Mike Sullivan after

533
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Speaker 9: he won two Cups and it got very stale and

534
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Speaker 9: they didn't have a playoff round win since twenty eighteen

535
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Speaker 9: and missed the postseason entirely for the last three years,

536
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Speaker 9: and they made a change and the Penguins are off

537
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Speaker 9: to a much better than expected start, And it's pretty

538
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Speaker 9: low hanging fruit. But it also drives on the point

539
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Speaker 9: of maybe you get sedentary and you get afraid of

540
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Speaker 9: change because you're used to what you're getting and it's

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Speaker 9: not terrible. It hasn't been terrible around here. It's been okay.

542
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Speaker 9: A lot of our franchises in football would kill per okay.

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Speaker 9: But when you know what's gonna go on, Mike Tomlins

544
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Speaker 9: tombstone is the phrase. The standard is the stand and

545
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 9: it's been substandard to what that standard is supposed to

546
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 9: be around here. You can't live with that credo and

547
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 9: live beneath it for the majority of the past eight seasons,

548
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Speaker 9: and that's definitely caught up to him when it comes

549
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Speaker 9: to public perception going on what is almost now a

550
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 9: decade in the making since the last time they want

551
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Speaker 9: a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlins can definitely coach defense. He can definitely coach football.

553
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Speaker 4: I mean great. We've talked about great head coach on

554
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Speaker 4: twenty five straight non losing seasons. He's responsible for a

555
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Speaker 4: high number of those. A big percentage of those great

556
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: seasons went to Miami of Ohio. Played wide receiver there.

557
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Speaker 4: You know, hell of a football player goes into the

558
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Speaker 4: coaching profession and succeeds at an extremely high level after

559
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: matriculating at the Cradle of Coaches, and I think he

560
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: might have been an assistant coach there after graduation. And

561
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Speaker 4: he's a hell of a football coach. He knows defense

562
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Speaker 4: when he watches the Cincinnati Bengals, and I know, you know,

563
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Speaker 4: you're not in there with him watching tape and getting

564
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: his thoughts and opinions on the Bengals defense. But he

565
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: knows good defensive players, he knows good defensive coaches when

566
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Speaker 4: he sees it and works against it. What does he

567
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Speaker 4: think about the Cincinnati Bengals unit, Well.

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Speaker 9: I mean he's kind of avoided spending too much time

569
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Speaker 9: talking about it publicly, honestly. And he was actually the

570
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Speaker 9: defensive back coach at Cincinnati. That's where his relationship developed.

571
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Speaker 9: Rick Minner and Jesse Minner, who's you know, just put

572
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Speaker 9: on a good display from the Chargers the other night.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, I think what he has said

574
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Speaker 9: about the defense of the Bengals is you know, he's

575
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Speaker 9: always kind of he does the Louholtz thing, you know,

576
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Speaker 9: whenever he does his weekly press conference, he spends the

577
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Speaker 9: first fifteen minutes talking about every team like they're the

578
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 9: nineties Cowboys, the eighty five bears right, And when he

579
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Speaker 9: was talking about the Bengals defense this week, he kept

580
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 9: talking about the young developing players of what they could be.

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Speaker 4: Spent a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Time focusing on DJ Turner and you know, like the

583
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Speaker 9: job that he's done, and he played against Metcalf last time.

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Speaker 9: And you know, even though it's pretty clear that Trey

585
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 9: Anderson was gonna play, he was talking about Henderson and

586
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Speaker 9: you know how much he has when he is in there.

587
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 9: So he had a very depth way to not talk

588
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 9: about where the Bengals defense has been. But you know,

589
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 9: people in Pittsburgh, people who analyze this sort of thing,

590
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 9: have definitely said this is a game that the Steelers

591
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 9: probably will have to win in the thirties and probably

592
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 9: can and should win in the thirties. Because that game

593
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Speaker 9: from Aaron Rodgers was his first bag game, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't as a Steeler. It was off the Sharks bad, don't.

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Speaker 9: Get me wrong, But I don't quite think I'm ready

596
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Speaker 9: to believe that we're getting into Russell Wilson territory like

597
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 9: we saw the last five weeks of last year. This

598
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Speaker 9: might be the exact elixture that that offense and Aaron

599
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Speaker 9: Rodgers needs to face the Bengals defense, and you know,

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Speaker 9: I expect a similar tone to what we saw in.

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Speaker 3: The first game.

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Speaker 9: I'm not certain the Steelers are gonna win, but I

603
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Speaker 9: would expect to see that overheit. I think it's at

604
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Speaker 9: like fifty and that feels like something that both these teams,

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Speaker 9: even to the field has turned sworn off after Notre

606
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 9: Dame and pitt and the weather's not great, which potentially

607
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Speaker 9: could be the case. I still see an option for

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Speaker 9: a lot of offense this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: That has certainly been the way it's looked in Bengals

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Speaker 3: games since Joe Fleco has been Cincinnati's quarterback. Tim, we

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time, enjoy that hockey match, and we will

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Speaker 3: see you on Sunday at Akroshore.

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Speaker 1: All right, good cashing up with you guys.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Safe travels, Tim.

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Speaker 3: All right, that is Tim Bens again, a broadcaster, podcaster,

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Speaker 3: and columnist covering all things Pittsburgh in the Steel City.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a time out when we come back with

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson out, Shamar Stewart out. Can Miles Murphy step

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Speaker 3: up start to look like a first round draft pick?

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Speaker 4: that to school. You know, let everybody, everybody give the

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Speaker 4: gander that bad boy.

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Speaker 3: So if we get a quarterback to come by, we'll

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Speaker 3: you get the arm from the same mannequin. Yes, they will,

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Speaker 3: all right. Before the commercial break, we mentioned that Trey

652
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Speaker 3: Hendrickson is out this week dealing with a hip injury.

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Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart is out this week dealing with a knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully those guys will be back soon. In the meantime,

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Speaker 3: somebody's going to have to step up put some pressure

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Speaker 3: on Aaron Rodgers this week. Joseph Osai could be one

657
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Speaker 3: of those guys. Hopefully they'll get a pushed from inside

658
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Speaker 3: from somebody like bj Hill or Chris Jenkins. But let's

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Speaker 3: face it, the guy that we keep hoping is going

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Speaker 3: to urge is a dependable pass rusher. Is the twenty

661
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Speaker 3: eighth pick in the draft a few years ago, Miles Murphy.

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Speaker 3: He's going to get a bunch of playing time this

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Speaker 3: week against Pittsburgh, and I talked to him about that

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Speaker 3: and much more this week. Miles, You've led the Bengals

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Speaker 3: defensive lineman in snaps each of the last two games.

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Speaker 3: You were too off the lead in the game before that.

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Speaker 3: Is this the opportunity that you've been looking for?

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Speaker 11: I mean yeah, I feel like as a player, you

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Speaker 11: always look for any opportunity you can get, and really,

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Speaker 11: anytime you're on the field, regardless of the snap count,

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Speaker 11: you want to take advantage of each and every snap,

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Speaker 11: whether it's one or seventy, you want to take advantage

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Speaker 11: of each and every one of them. And you know

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Speaker 11: he's being the pun.

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Speaker 3: To put your best before it. Really, do you feel

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Speaker 3: like all of these snaps are paying off? And if so,

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Speaker 3: how uh?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I think experience is the best teacher, regardless of

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Speaker 11: who your coach is. Like, if you're on the field,

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Speaker 11: you're you're gonna learn something coaches helped, So the coaches

681
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Speaker 11: help you progress faster, but experience, I feel is.

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Speaker 10: The best teacher.

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Speaker 11: Put his dudes that are just year ten, year twelve

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Speaker 11: that I've talked to and it's just things that they've

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Speaker 11: learned just by playing the game and being on the field,

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Speaker 11: like just small, small stuff to give you a little

687
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Speaker 11: bit of an edge on a handful of plays. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: I think experience is the best teacher, and I'm learning.

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Speaker 11: I'm learning a lot just being just being on the field, anticipating,

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Speaker 11: anticipating runs and passes a little bit better, going against

691
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Speaker 11: elite tackles and developing my pass rush and run moves whatever.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I think I'm learning, learning and developing a

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Speaker 11: lot just being on the field.

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Speaker 3: You were one of the youngest guys in your draft class.

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Speaker 3: You're still only twenty three. Do you feel like you're

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Speaker 3: still relatively early in the learning process?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: That was one of coach Taylor's main points coming off

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Speaker 11: of last season. I'm stilling my the things that infancy

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Speaker 11: of my career. So it's it's okay to continue to

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Speaker 11: get better. It's rome wasn't built in the day, regardless

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Speaker 11: of what anyone else says. And here I know I've

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Speaker 11: gotten a lot better since my rookie year. And the

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Speaker 11: biggest thing because that is just being able to being

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Speaker 11: able to anticipate, being able to anticipate plays, knowing knowing

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Speaker 11: how to watch film, sting, sending in the film with

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Speaker 11: h jmo or Jerry, just having him walk me through

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Speaker 11: things to look for, how to watch film, what to

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Speaker 11: what to study, how to dissect players, how to dissect

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Speaker 11: backfield formations, being it. Yeah, just doing things like that,

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Speaker 11: and and and anticipating plays, being able to just play fast.

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Speaker 3: Visiting with Biles Murphy. You've been teammates with one of

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Speaker 3: the better sac artists in the NFL now for three

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Speaker 3: years and Trey Hendrickson. Are the things that you pick

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Speaker 3: up from him? Or is it easier said than done

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Speaker 3: to just say, I play with Trey Hendrickson, therefore I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be able to pick up tricks of the

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Speaker 3: trade from him.

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Speaker 11: Nah, you can't just be here. You can't just show

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Speaker 11: up and say, Okay, I'm gonna evolve into trade now.

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Speaker 11: You gotta really tap in, like you can ask him.

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Speaker 11: I've since I've gotten here, I've been asking him questions.

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Speaker 11: And it's not all just football stuff. How do you

725
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Speaker 11: throw your swipe?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 11: Like what do you do when you go home? Or

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Speaker 11: something like that, Like how do you recover so? And

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Speaker 11: like one of the things, I'm a pretty good observer.

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Speaker 11: I've observed a lot of things and people.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 11: He and him and Sam Hubbert when he was here,

733
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Speaker 11: we're very anal about their schedule still are, and it's

734
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Speaker 11: like I can I can show up to the I

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Speaker 11: can show up to the facility, and I can expect

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Speaker 11: Trade to be in certain spots and he's always in

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Speaker 11: certain spots because he is on top of his schedule.

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Speaker 11: And I've I tried to do the same thing. I

739
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Speaker 11: tried to create a schedule and be on it every

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Speaker 11: single day, especially when it comes to recovery, because that's

741
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Speaker 11: the that's the biggest thing. I didn't really I kind

742
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Speaker 11: of just did what I was recommended in college. Now,

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Speaker 11: since it's so much just free time, you can do

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Speaker 11: whatever you want me to go home, I had to

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Speaker 11: just create a schedule, stick to it, create a diet,

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Speaker 11: stick to it, and really hone it on film and

747
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Speaker 11: just use use my use my free time.

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Speaker 3: Wisely, Really, you are a smart cerebro guy. I enjoy

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Speaker 3: talking to you. I wonder as a pass rusher if

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Speaker 3: that works against you, are there times where you find

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Speaker 3: yourself thinking and maybe you'd be better off just going

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Speaker 3: uh yeah.

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Speaker 11: Early on in my career I admitted that I think

754
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Speaker 11: my rookie year and a little bit last year where

755
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Speaker 11: I was just thinking overthinking myself of second guests and

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Speaker 11: on some rushes where I should go inside or outside

757
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Speaker 11: or just power.

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Speaker 1: Us to the guy.

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Speaker 11: But I think now I've kind of develop a mindset

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Speaker 11: of pick one and go commit to it. That's that's

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Speaker 11: the big thing. That's a big thing. You can portray said,

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Speaker 11: you gotta just commit to a rush. You can't if

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Speaker 11: you go into a rush. He says it all the time.

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Speaker 10: You go.

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Speaker 11: If you go into a rust thinking about a counter,

766
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Speaker 11: thinking about a if this doesn't work, go to this,

767
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Speaker 11: You're probably not gonna win. So it just really just

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Speaker 11: commit to that one rush, as for already thinking about

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Speaker 11: or setting up. So that's a big, big teaching point

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Speaker 11: that I kind of took in this year.

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Speaker 3: This defense is filled with guys that had tremendous college careers,

772
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Speaker 3: played on great college teams, and unfortunately, in recent weeks

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Speaker 3: the Bengals defense has struggled. How hard is it when

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you feel like you've let the offense down

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Speaker 3: to a certain extent.

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Speaker 11: It's a tough phone, a swallow for sure. But like

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Speaker 11: you said, us coming from winning programs, successful, successful team

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Speaker 11: successful defenses, Like we all know, we all know what

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Speaker 11: it looks like, we all know what it feels like.

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Speaker 11: Although yes, sharel was at the college level, some of

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Speaker 11: the guys that were here during that Super Bowl year, BJ,

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Speaker 11: TREYE and some of the other guys, like, they know

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Speaker 11: what it looks like on this level. So those are

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Speaker 11: the leaders that are stepping up and really just us

785
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Speaker 11: taking what we knew from college, what worked in college,

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Speaker 11: bringing it here kind of just adding on, adding on

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Speaker 11: to the things that the vests did that Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: year and just taking coaching and retaining it and continuing

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Speaker 11: to stuff forward. That's the main dame. He can't can't

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Speaker 11: step back, can't let the confidence kind of just wither away.

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Speaker 11: Like we know, yeah it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 11: value right now, but that doesn't mean just the season's over.

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Speaker 11: So you got to just keep keep stepping forward.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, appreciate your time. Best of luck this week, Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much. Appreciate it all right. Laugh. That was Miles Murphy.

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Speaker 3: Here's my feeling on Miles in year three of his

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Speaker 3: Bengals career. I think he's improving as a run stopper.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been decent at that this year, I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen enough growth as a pass rusher, and obviously

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Speaker 3: the numbers bear that out. He's got one and a

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Speaker 3: half sacks this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one and a half sacks this year, four and

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Speaker 4: a half for his career. I mean a guy that

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Speaker 4: was picked where he was twenty eighth and has the ability,

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Speaker 4: the physical talents, the physical skills that he's been blessed with.

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Speaker 4: You know, you just you expect much more production than yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he's a puzzle. He's a quandary for

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Speaker 4: coaches to try to figure out because it's not like

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Speaker 4: he's loafing or you know, not interested, not paying attention.

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Speaker 4: He's not anything like that. He wants to be good.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be he wants to be a dominant player.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be an upper echelon NFL edge pass

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Speaker 4: rusher that offensive tackles in the National Football League are like,

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Speaker 4: oh boy, I got Miles Murphy this week. Oh man,

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Speaker 4: but he got a lot of sleep better eat right,

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's it hasn't hasn't panned out for him,

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Speaker 4: hasn't turned out to be the case. So I know

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Speaker 4: he's not going to quit on it. I know he's

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Speaker 4: going to continue to work and work hard. And uh,

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Speaker 4: the organization, the coach's position, coach coordinator, head coach, nobody's

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Speaker 4: gonna quit on the guy. They're gonna give them, give

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Speaker 4: him their full attention as well. I'd like to see

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Speaker 4: Murphy have a you know, eight or nine sacks season.

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Speaker 4: That would be That would be great. That would be

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Speaker 4: a coming out party, you know, that would be Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the National Football League here, I am.

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Speaker 3: He's got a year left on his rookie contract prior

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Speaker 3: to next season. He'll be eligible for a fifth round option.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, a fifth year option as a first round

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Speaker 3: draft pick right now, there's no way he gets it

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Speaker 3: based on how he's played. So he would have to

832
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Speaker 3: really have a surge over these final eight games for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals to want to invest beyond next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like we talked about, you know, they're in

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Speaker 4: the beginning of a stretch. Okay, Pittsburgh. You got Pittsburgh twice. No,

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Speaker 4: you got Pittsburgh once. I already played them once. You

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Speaker 4: get them again. Aaron Rodgers, you know upper echelon guy

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Speaker 4: new England quarterbacks playing at a high level. Baltimore. We

839
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Speaker 4: know he's playing at a high level. Buffalo, He's playing

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Speaker 4: at a high level. You could use somebody on the

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Speaker 4: edge that on a snap by snap basis. These quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: have to, you know, get their head on a swivel

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Speaker 4: and look look for a little bit, get their eyes

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Speaker 4: off the downfield coverage. And Miles Murphy is that kind

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Speaker 4: of guy. He just have to He has to believe

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Speaker 4: it and he has to get there.

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Speaker 3: The other team's quarterback this week is Aaron Rodgers. Coming

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Speaker 3: up next, what is it like for a twenty three

849
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Speaker 3: year old rookie to face a quarterback in his twenty

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Speaker 3: first NFL season. We'll hear from Bengals linebacker Barrett Carter next.

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Speaker 3: Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Dan Horde, He's Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 3: Evan McPherson will join us in one hour. He'll be

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Speaker 3: here for the final hour of the show. If you

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Speaker 3: want to get an autographed for a picture with money Max,

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Speaker 3: this is your opportunity to do it. It's absolutely free,

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Speaker 3: although we highly encourage you to take advantage of the

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Speaker 3: opportunities for food and drink here. Beyond the rhyine eatery,

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Speaker 3: plenty of inexpensive food options. There's a great bar here

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Speaker 3: as well, So if you want to come out and

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Speaker 3: start the happy hour on a Friday afternoon, have something

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Speaker 3: to eat, this is a great place to do it. Hoard,

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Speaker 3: Lapham and Mills have been sampling the dry rub wings, yes,

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Speaker 3: and the potstickers so far today. Both delicious, outstanding. The

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Speaker 3: wings in particular tremendous.

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Speaker 4: They're cooked to perfection. I mean just enough spice, you know,

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Speaker 4: just enough seasoning in.

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Speaker 3: Correctly perfect, really really good. Yeah, we tend to bring

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Speaker 3: them home as well, have no question. So we got

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Speaker 3: the Bengals and Steelers coming up this Sunday at one o'clock,

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Speaker 3: second time this year that the Bengals will face forty

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Speaker 3: one year old Aaron Rodgers. He will be forty two

883
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Speaker 3: year old Aaron Rodgers in eighteen days. What a career

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Speaker 3: he's had. He's a four time MVP, he is a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP. He has passed for so many yards

886
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Speaker 3: in his NFL career we can convert them to miles.

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Speaker 3: He has passed for thirty six point eight miles in

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Speaker 3: his NFL career. He's thrown for five hundred and twenty

889
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Speaker 3: one touchdowns, including four in the first meeting between these

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Speaker 3: two teams about a month ago. Cincinnati did win the

891
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Speaker 3: game thirty three to thirty one. So imagine what it's

892
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Speaker 3: like for the Bengals rookie linebackers Demetrius Knight and Barrett

893
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Speaker 3: Carter to walk up to the line of scrimmage, look

894
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Speaker 3: at the other team's quarterback, stare them in the eyes,

895
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Speaker 3: and see a guy that's been playing in the NFL

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Speaker 3: since they were two or three years old. Let's hear

897
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Speaker 3: from Bengals rookie Barrett Carter on what it's like to

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Speaker 3: go head to head with a legend in Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 12: It was so cool planning to get some side note,

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Speaker 12: But what I learned is that you can tell he's

901
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Speaker 12: been playing the game for a long time and for

902
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Speaker 12: a long time at a high level. At that just

903
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Speaker 12: you know, he's walking up out of the huddle and

904
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Speaker 12: he's he's viewing the defense and he just looked super

905
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Speaker 12: super like calm out there. So that's really that was

906
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Speaker 12: really that was really cool to see and just being

907
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Speaker 12: able to you know, I was I remember I was

908
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Speaker 12: a kid watching him and I got to play against

909
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Speaker 12: some first hand. So he's a he's a pois player,

910
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Speaker 12: plays with a lot of confidence and uh, you know,

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Speaker 12: you got to.

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Speaker 3: Be on your piece accus when you play him. The

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Speaker 3: Bengals intercepted him twice in that first meeting. Jordan Battle

914
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Speaker 3: got him, DJ Turner got him. Came on back to

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Speaker 3: back possessions in the second quarter. More than anything else,

916
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Speaker 3: that was probably the biggest key to the win. Because

917
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Speaker 3: the Bengals defense clearly is not shutting teams down. They've

918
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Speaker 3: got to get some takeaways and they got two in

919
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Speaker 3: that first beating.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely and uh, you know, we thought turnovers were going

921
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Speaker 4: to be a big key in game one, and they

922
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Speaker 4: were two interceptions that that Aaron Rodgers threw. Joe Flacco

923
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Speaker 4: didn't throw any, so that that was big. That was

924
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Speaker 4: a deciding factor in the in the victory for the

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals in a hard fought two point win. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it is. Uh, you go, You're gonna have to

927
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Speaker 4: take care of the football, There's no doubt about it.

928
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Speaker 4: And Aaron, Aaron Rodgers is going to the Hall of

929
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Speaker 4: Fame that five hundred and twenty one touchdowns in his career,

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Speaker 4: kidding me, it's ridiculous. He did throw four touchdown passes,

931
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Speaker 4: like you said, Dan, two interceptions hurt four touchdown passes

932
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Speaker 4: almost overcame those interceptions and almost led his team to victory.

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Speaker 4: You do know that Aaron Rodgers will compete. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: wants to make amends for what he feels like a

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Speaker 4: game where he cost his team a football game and

936
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Speaker 4: you know, you can definitely say it. You know it's

937
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Speaker 4: a and he realizes that. So he doesn't want to

938
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Speaker 4: be the goat. He doesn't want to wear the goat horns.

939
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Speaker 4: Again in the Pittsburgh steel of locker room when that

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Speaker 4: football game ends.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about the Bengals injuries earlier in the show.

942
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Speaker 3: Now the Steelers injury report is out and there is

943
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Speaker 3: some good news where the Bengals are concerned. Alex Highsmith

944
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Speaker 3: is out. Wow, one of their best pass rushers, a

945
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Speaker 3: guy who has given Cincinnati fits over the years. Linebacker

946
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Speaker 3: Clay Holcomb is out. That's not quite as significant, although

947
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Speaker 3: he had been playing well when he was healthy. Their

948
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Speaker 3: left guard Isaac Seamalo is questionable. He did not play

949
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Speaker 3: last week in their loss on Sunday Night against the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: He might be the best offensive lineman they have. He's

951
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Speaker 3: certainly the most experienced, so questionable means it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals can keep their fingers crossed and hope that

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Speaker 3: he is out this week.

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Speaker 4: He is a beast. He really does a hell of

955
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Speaker 4: a job. He kind of controls an aw owns the

956
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Speaker 4: owns the line of scrimmage. I think that that's an

957
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Speaker 4: underrated group to the Pittsburgh Steelers, their offensive line, how

958
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Speaker 4: well they've played, you know, as a group this season.

959
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Speaker 4: Thought to know at the right tackle position is another horse.

960
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Speaker 4: He's a He's an excellent player. Zach Frasier is a

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Speaker 4: grizzled veteran center. McCormick uh plays well at the at

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Speaker 4: the right guard position. Roderick Jones a big old, big

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Speaker 4: old body at the left tackle spot as well. They've

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Speaker 4: got players. I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers know what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Their stuarding department as a formula, the things they look

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Speaker 4: for in offensive lineman that over the years they've monitored,

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Speaker 4: and most of the offensive linemen that have been successful

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, particularly with the Pittsburgh Steelers, have fit

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Speaker 4: the bill and and been in the mold of these

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Speaker 4: physical traits. So they know what they're doing. Absolutely, they

971
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Speaker 4: know what they're doing. And I think a big key

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Speaker 4: in the football game this time, just like it was

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Speaker 4: in the first matchup dan is who runs the football? Well,

974
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Speaker 4: you know who gets their running game going. And you

975
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Speaker 4: get that running game going play action pass falls into

976
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Speaker 4: plays very easily. So you don't get that running game going.

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Speaker 4: It does not.

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Speaker 3: All right, you just talked about the Steelers offensive line.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the Bengals offensive line when

980
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Speaker 3: we come back. Is Joe Flacco making the Bengals offensive

981
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Speaker 3: line look good or is the line actually playing well?

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss that when we come back. This is the

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Speaker 3: Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, live

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Speaker 3: from the on the Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: They are broadcasting live this afternoon from the on the

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Speaker 3: Ryan Eatery, the food hall above the downtown Kroger at

987
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Speaker 3: the intersection of Court and Walnut. It's the Bengals pep

988
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Speaker 3: Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. Joe Flacco has

989
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Speaker 3: been the Bengals starting quarterback for four games. In those

990
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Speaker 3: four games, the Bengals are averaging more than thirty two points.

991
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Speaker 3: He's being sacked less than two times a game. The

992
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Speaker 3: Bengals running game is averaging five and a half yards

993
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 3: per carry, which is excellent, and all of that suggests

994
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: that the offensive line is playing well. The Bengals offensive

995
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Speaker 3: line's taking a lot of shots in recent years when

996
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: opposing teams have gotten to Joe Burrow, and some of

997
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: that is obviously deserved. So when they're playing well, they

998
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: deserve some credit. Yep, let's hear from left tackle Orlando

999
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Speaker 3: Brown Junior.

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Speaker 13: You know our standard has Risen is going to continue

1001
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 13: to rise. We've only gotten better as time's going.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 13: I also want to come in the coaches too. I

1004
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Speaker 13: feel like in the way coach Taylor, pitch Scott Man,

1005
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Speaker 13: coach Hills, coach Casey Hopefully, I'm not forget any of

1006
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Speaker 13: the position coaches. Man, They've put us in great position

1007
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Speaker 13: and the way that they've been calling the game has

1008
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Speaker 13: allowed us to flourish and allow guys to play with

1009
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Speaker 13: emotion and you know, pund teams in the run game

1010
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Speaker 13: help keep you know, flack o'clean in the past game.

1011
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Speaker 13: And but a lot of that is just a collective effort.

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Speaker 10: You know.

1013
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: Offensive line play.

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Speaker 13: You know, we could sit here and talk about talent

1015
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Speaker 13: all day and o line coaches, but to me, it's

1016
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Speaker 13: a collective thing of receivers getting open, which requires coach

1017
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Speaker 13: to call certain plays, you know what I mean, in

1018
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 13: the rhythm of a game, to go a certain way.

1019
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Speaker 3: Laptist line features a twenty two year old rookie starting

1020
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Speaker 3: at left guard, Dylan Fairchild, twenty three year old rookie

1021
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: starting at right guard, Jalen Rivers, a twenty three year

1022
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 3: old second year player starting at right tackle, Marius Mims.

1023
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Speaker 3: What is your view of the progress of your old

1024
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: position group, the offensive line.

1025
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with what Orlando Brown was talking about

1026
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Speaker 4: in your comments, and everybody's really thoughts about the offensive

1027
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: line on a weekly basis. Seems to be improving. You know,

1028
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Speaker 4: the performance is definitely better in a lot of areas,

1029
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 4: and I think their understanding of what the expectation is

1030
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: at that position is starting to starting to take shape.

1031
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Speaker 4: They're young, like you said, I mean twenty two years old.

1032
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable that you're starting in the National Football League

1033
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: is a twenty two year old guy, that's truly amazing

1034
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Speaker 4: in today's NFL, particularly amazing. So they've got a long

1035
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: way to go. They're not there yet, but they are

1036
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Speaker 4: starting to climb, you know, the latter of success or

1037
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Speaker 4: rung at a time, and they're starting to see some success,

1038
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Speaker 4: particularly in that running game. Like we talked about earlier,

1039
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Speaker 4: you can run the football. Play action pass is going

1040
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: to happen, and you're gonna get some big plays out

1041
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 4: of it. And then all of a sudden, it's going

1042
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 4: to be easier to run the football and one hand

1043
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Speaker 4: feeds the other, one hand washes the other, And I

1044
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Speaker 4: think they are starting to realize that big time.

1045
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Speaker 3: We've arrived at a point that we were at in

1046
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three when Jake Browning played well while Joe

1047
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Speaker 3: Burrow was out. One of the things that the Bengal

1048
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Speaker 3: did more when Jake Browning was playing well that year

1049
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: was half him under center. Yep, they ran the ball

1050
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Speaker 3: well with him under center. It opened up more of

1051
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Speaker 3: a play action passing game. We are led to believe

1052
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Speaker 3: that that is not Joe Burrow's preference. That he likes

1053
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Speaker 3: to be in the shotgun scan see what the defense

1054
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Speaker 3: is going to do and would prefer to do that

1055
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Speaker 3: than be under center. But seeing the effectiveness that they

1056
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Speaker 3: had in twenty three with Browning, seeing the effectiveness that

1057
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Speaker 3: they're having with Joe Flacco doing that, does Joe Burrow

1058
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Speaker 3: have to do that more when he's back and playing.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question, million dollar question, and only Burrow

1060
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Speaker 4: can answer it. I think the coaches will if Joe

1061
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Speaker 4: Burrow says, look, I don't like I'm being under center.

1062
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Speaker 4: I'm not comfortable, they won't do it. But Joe's like,

1063
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Speaker 4: you know what you know, watching Flacco, watching Jake, I mean,

1064
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Speaker 4: there's something to be said for you know, mixing it

1065
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Speaker 4: up and getting under center a little bit. I'd still

1066
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Speaker 4: want to play out of the shotgun. I don't want

1067
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Speaker 4: to give it up totally, but man, there's some reasons,

1068
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Speaker 4: good football, sound football reasons to get an under center.

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Speaker 4: One of the big ones is when you're under center,

1070
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Speaker 4: you know, you you give the look that you know

1071
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Speaker 4: you can do either run or pass. You turn your back.

1072
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Speaker 4: You turn your back to the defense a little bit,

1073
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 4: and Joe Burrow hates it. A lot of quarterbacks don't

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: like turning their back to a defense, so you lose

1075
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: track of what's going on with the linebackers. How deep

1076
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: they're dropping safeties? Is one rotating up and the other

1077
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: one rotating back? Are they you know, doing that at

1078
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 4: the safety position? Did they change their blitz look? Did

1079
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: they drop out of it? Or did they come from

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: a pass drop look to a blitz look. So a

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00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks like the shotgun staying in the gun

1082
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: because they can see all that. They can see the field,

1083
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 4: and they they're not surprised. They're never like, oh my gosh, man,

1084
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: I lost track of that one. So it's interesting. There's

1085
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: pros and cons to everything, and there's pros and console

1086
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 4: a lot of things in the game of football as well.

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: And I guess you know it all. It all boils

1088
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 4: down to what do you like, what do you feel

1089
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 4: best doing, what fits your skill set better? Do you

1090
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: think allows you to, you know, make throws you want

1091
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: to make read the football field more easily, more comfortably,

1092
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: And I think Joe Burrow would vote for a shotgun.

1093
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: Has Joe Flacco helped the offensive line and if so,

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00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: in what ways?

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00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: I think he has, dan And the biggest way is

1096
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: he gets rid of the damn ball so quickly. I mean,

1097
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: it is out two and a half seconds. It's if

1098
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: there's nothing there, it's gone. It's either on the ground,

1099
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: not intentional grounding, but putting the ball, you know, low

1100
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: and on the ground where nobody can make a play

1101
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: on it, you know, Or if he sees an opening occurring,

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00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: he'll throw the receiver open. He gets the ball out

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: so quickly, and he throws the ball so beautifully well

1104
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: that I do think that he's helped the offensive line

1105
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 4: a little bit. I think his fourteen years experience has

1106
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: helped the offensive line. I think he wants to help

1107
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: the offensive line a little bit, and the offensive lineman

1108
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: love him. They love that quick release man. I mean,

1109
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: it's a valuable commodity for a quarterback to have that

1110
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: feels confident and comfortable enough to get the ball out

1111
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: of his hand as quickly as Joe Flacco does.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, the Bengals scored thirty eight against the

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00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: Jets and lost. They scored forty two against the Bears

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00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: and lost. What's a simple thing, just a simple thing

1115
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: that they can do on defense to play better this

1116
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: week against Pittsburgh. We'll hear from linebacker Demetrius Knight with

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: the answer to that when we continue. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: the Bengals Pep Brawley Show live from the on the

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Speaker 3: Ryan Eatery at ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 3: Bengals Pep Rally Show, presented by Just Fair Chicken. Here

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00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty, live from the on the Rhine

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: Eatery in downtown Cincinnati. It's on the second floor above

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Speaker 3: the downtown Kroger at Courton Walnut. Lap and I are

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Speaker 3: here until five thirty this afternoon, not six half hour

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Speaker 3: earlier than usual. This week, Bengals kicker Evan McPherson will

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00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: be joining us from four thirty to five thirty. He

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00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: will be signing a leg lamp. We look forward to

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Speaker 3: seeing his reaction when the person with the leg lamp

1129
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: approaches the stage. The Bengals defense is obviously having a

1130
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 3: rough year. They're giving up thirty three points a game

1131
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: that is last in the NFL. It would be the

1132
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: most in team history. But they've got eight games left

1133
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: to improve and hopefully with the young players they have

1134
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: out there, they are going to improve. There have been

1135
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: some signs of improvement, but obviously they've still got some

1136
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: big strides to go to reach the point where they

1137
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: can win games with their defense. Let's hear from one

1138
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: of their two starting rookie linebackers, Demetrius Knight, on one

1139
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: very simple thing that they can do better that would help.

1140
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just just about doing your win eleven on

1141
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 8: the field. Everybody feeling in those tied and critical moments,

1142
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 8: Oh I got a strain and make the play. It's

1143
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 8: not about making the play. It's about doing your win

1144
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 8: eleven and if the play comes to you, then you

1145
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 8: make the play. Not just going out of your way

1146
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 8: to jump out of your gap in a crucis situation

1147
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 8: where you can get off the field or trying to,

1148
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 8: you know, overrun someone who's already into in the flat.

1149
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 8: Just knowing your job, doing the best of your ability,

1150
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 8: and knowing that the guy to your left, here, right

1151
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 8: in front of you and behind you, he's going to

1152
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 8: do the same thing.

1153
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: Lap. It's something you talk about a lot. Harvest your

1154
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 3: own crop.

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: No question, And that's a damn smart rookie right there,

1156
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: realizing that that's what you gotta do is don't try

1157
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: to do too much. Your natural reaction on a football field,

1158
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 4: if you're a football player and a good football player

1159
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: is I got to do more. I got to make sure. Man,

1160
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: my teammate over here is not having a good day.

1161
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: He's made a couple of mistakes, he's hit the wrong gap,

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: he's not where he's supposed to be when he's supposed

1163
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: to be there. I gotta go make amends for that.

1164
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: I got to go make up for it. That's the

1165
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: worst thing in the world that can happen, and coaches

1166
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: hate it. Coaches tear their hair out by the roots

1167
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: when that kind of thing is going on. Coordinators, position coaches, everybody.

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Speaker 4: So that's the one thing that you can't do. You

1169
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: can't panic. You can't sound the alarm. Just you know,

1170
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: line up and in the huddle, make a commitment, commitment

1171
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 4: to yourself. I'm going to do my job. And that

1172
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: came from Paul Brown, that that phraseology, that sentence, that saying,

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: don't try to harvest somebody else's crop. And it makes

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: so much sense. I don't care what era you're talking

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01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 4: about a football, I don't care what level of football

1176
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about. Do your job, don't harve someone else's crop.

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01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: Don't try to do someone else's job on top of

1178
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: your job.

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Speaker 3: So since the Bengals last game and since our last show,

1180
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: they have traded away Logan Wilson to the Dallas Cowboys.

1181
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: So if the rookie linebackers weren't already you know, the

1182
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 3: leaders of this defense, or at least the guys in

1183
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: the middle, they certainly are now Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter.

1184
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: They do have a veteran that can help them in

1185
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 3: Orrin Burke's played on a Super Bowl champion last year,

1186
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: played on the Super Bowl loser the year before. He's

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Speaker 3: been in the Super Bowl each of the last two years.

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Speaker 3: So the guy has some great experience. But man, after that,

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Speaker 3: it's a bunch of young guys that don't have a

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: ton of experience. So those live backers, they got to

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: grow up. They got to grow up fast they do.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's sink or swim time. You know, you

1193
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: got you gotta show up. You gotta make plays, You

1194
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: have to do exactly what you're assigned to do. You

1195
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 4: have to have belief that your coaches are gonna put

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Speaker 4: you in a position to help the football team, help

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Speaker 4: the football team win games. I I do know that

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Speaker 4: these young players have a tremendous amount of respect for

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Speaker 4: Al Golden. They saw what he did with Notre Dames defense,

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Speaker 4: and they were they played such good team defense. You know,

1201
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: guys are talking about one eleventh. You know, I gotta

1202
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: I gotta be my one eleventh. Make sure I'm the

1203
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: one eleventh that everybody's counting on the coaches, the players, everybody.

1204
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: Don't try to be two elevenths yours and another one

1205
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 4: that's not gonna work. That's gonna that's gonna it's gonna be.

1206
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Speaker 4: You're gonna negate, You're gonna race. Uh, you're one eleventh,

1207
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: so you can go back to ground zero. Do your job. Uh,

1208
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's it's a given, it's a must,

1209
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 4: and it always will be in the game of football.

1210
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Speaker 3: The Bengals lead the NFL in missed tackles. I did

1211
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Speaker 3: an interview with Tony Pike earlier this week, and he

1212
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 3: did point out something that I hadn't considered. Part of

1213
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Speaker 3: the reason why they lead the NFL in miss tackles

1214
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: is that they're in position to make them, which in

1215
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: a way is a good thing. At least, you know,

1216
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: guys are not running down the field untouched, right, it's

1217
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: being in a slightly better position to make them.

1218
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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's like you have to go back to your techniques

1220
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 4: and fundamentals, and when you are in position, get your

1221
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: head across the bow, get your helmet in front of

1222
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 4: the offensive player. That will curtail his momentum, that will

1223
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: stop him from moving the football down the football field anymore.

1224
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Speaker 4: And then the thing that they do not do, and

1225
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Speaker 4: they've done, they've missed so many tackles because wrap your

1226
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Speaker 4: arms around the ball carrier and take them to the ground.

1227
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Speaker 4: Wrap them up and take him to the ground. And

1228
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Speaker 4: we used to do a drill every day before practice

1229
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Speaker 4: with Paul Brown called the routine tackling drill, and that

1230
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Speaker 4: was actually doing exactly what I just said. You know,

1231
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Speaker 4: you to guys lineup against each other. The guy goes

1232
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Speaker 4: on a forty five degree angle carrying a football, and

1233
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Speaker 4: you put your helmet across the head and helmet across

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Speaker 4: the bow, wrap your arms up and take him to

1235
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Speaker 4: the ground. Basic fundamental football Blocking and tackling wins you

1236
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Speaker 4: football games.

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Speaker 3: This week's fun Fact segment coming up next, It's The

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Speaker 3: Bengals pep Rally Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: turning into the Bengals pep Rally Show live from the

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Speaker 3: on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati, Money Mac

1241
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: Kevin McPherson, we'll be here in about twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: He will join us for the final hour of our

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Speaker 3: three hour Friday afternoon extravagan Money Mack, It's the Bengals

1244
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: Steelers this Sunday at one o'clock. Right now, Time for

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Speaker 3: this week's fun Fact segment, presented by Skyline Chili. Time

1246
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: for some fun facts with tight end Noah fan from Omaha, Nebraska,

1247
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Speaker 3: the biggest city in Nebraska, give the home of the

1248
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: College World Series Noah. Based on what I've read you're

1249
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Speaker 3: the youngest of six kids. Is that accurate and what

1250
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 3: was that like?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm definitely definitely the youngest of six, three brothers

1252
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 14: and two sisters, and it was a great, great upbringing. Definitely.

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Speaker 14: My my siblings thought I was a little bit spoiled,

1254
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Speaker 14: but it was great. I have great relationships with all

1255
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Speaker 14: of them, so couldn't complain.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you say that because I'm the fourth of five,

1257
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Speaker 3: and my older siblings always said, You've got it so easy.

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: Mom and dad have just kind of given up. They're

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01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: letting you do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: No, I definitely definitely think there's some of the same.

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Speaker 14: But my parents were tough on me growing up, but

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Speaker 14: in a good way, so I was blessed to have them.

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Speaker 3: One of your older brothers was your high school coach.

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Speaker 3: Was he tough on you?

1266
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 14: I think my brother just wanted the best for me,

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 14: wanted me to achieve greatness, and yeah, he was a

1269
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Speaker 14: big part of my development early on growing up, as

1270
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 14: with my dad and my mom, but yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a big part of that.

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Speaker 3: You attended Almaha South High School but also took classes

1273
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: at the University of Nebraska Medical Center while you were

1274
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: in high school. Tell me about that.

1275
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Speaker 14: Yeah, the un m C High School Alliance was kind

1276
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 14: of a program for high school students to kind of

1277
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 14: get a fast track to any any medical profession that

1278
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 14: they wanted to get into going into college. So it

1279
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 14: was taking college classes out of college at a college

1280
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 14: campus and uh, you know, kind of working in and

1281
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 14: seeing what path we wanted to take.

1282
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Speaker 1: When we got into college. So it was a great experience.

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Speaker 14: And I still keep in touch with some of the

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Speaker 14: people that run that program and have gone back to

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Speaker 14: visit before, and yeah, I'm just super fortunate to be

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Speaker 14: able to partake in that.

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Speaker 3: You dealt with Kidavers, Yeah, what was that like?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely a unique experience.

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Speaker 14: Not something that I thought that I would have been

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Speaker 14: doing that young but uh man, what a cool like

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Speaker 14: a like cool experis't a blessing for me to be

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Speaker 14: able to do that at such a young age and

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Speaker 14: really learn I learned so much in that program and

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Speaker 14: the classes that I took, So I was super fortunate

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Speaker 14: to be able to be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: In your scouting report coming out of college on NFL

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Speaker 3: dot com, it said you had an idea of possibly

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Speaker 3: being a surgeon after playing football. Is that still a

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Speaker 3: remote possibility in your mind?

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure yet.

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Speaker 14: It's a lot of schooling that I don't have to

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Speaker 14: go through after playing football in year seven, So we'll

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Speaker 14: see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: But not shutting in any doors.

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Speaker 3: We're visiting with Noah Fat. When it came time to

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Speaker 3: pick a college, you chose the school with the reputation

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Speaker 3: of being tight end you Iowa, Dallas Clark, George kittle,

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: TJ Howkinson, Sam Laporta, Ralf from the Bengals, and others.

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Speaker 3: How do you explain that lineage of great tight ends?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that just like when I was going

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Speaker 14: to Iowa, the guys that were kind of there before

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Speaker 14: me were like Dallas car Tony Mulaki, I think, Scott Chandler,

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 14: guys of that nature that had been there before and

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Speaker 14: had made it to the NFL, and it was just

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Speaker 14: kind of one of those things that was that was

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 14: a selling point that if I wanted to play tight

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01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 14: end in a in an offense that used the tight

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Speaker 14: end quite often, that I wanted to be able to

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Speaker 14: do that and go and go there. And obviously my

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Speaker 14: freshman year was Georgia's senior year and then after that

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Speaker 14: it's just been pumping out tight ends, uh, definitely more

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 14: frequently ever since. So it's been It's been a really

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Speaker 14: cool experience to be a part of, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Is it almost like a self fulfilling prophecy where the

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Speaker 3: best high school tight ends in the country gravitate to

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Speaker 3: Iowa and then it's almost destiny that they're going to

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Speaker 3: turn out to be pros.

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Speaker 14: You know, honestly, I think that I wouldn't necessarily say

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Speaker 14: the best, like the best top recruits that tight end

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 14: really go to Iowa. I think Iowa does a really

1331
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 14: good job of identifying guys that have the trades and

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Speaker 14: then developing them. Like when I was coming out of

1333
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 14: high school, I was a three star atta fleet out

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Speaker 14: of Nebraska. I had like fifteen offers from different schools,

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Speaker 14: but wasn't like a top recruited five star tight end

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Speaker 14: coming out of out of high school. So they do

1337
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 14: a great job of identifying guys with those traits and

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Speaker 14: developing them into a all around tight end. So that

1339
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 14: was something I was I was really proud of going

1340
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Speaker 14: there and being a part of.

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Speaker 3: After three years with the Hawkeyes, you entered the draft

1342
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Speaker 3: and were selected in the first round twentieth overall by Denver.

1343
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: Describe your draft night experience.

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great experience.

1345
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 14: I mean, obviously it was waiting a little bit twenty

1346
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 14: picks in, but it wasn't complaining at all. It was

1347
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 14: just like a very stressful situation. But what a cool

1348
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 14: experience for me and my family being there all together

1349
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 14: in the green room and getting that call from Denver

1350
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 14: at the time, and it was it was a surreal moment,

1351
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 14: So really cool experience for me and my family.

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: You had three good years in Denver, you probably expected

1353
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: to be there for a long long time, and then

1354
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: the Broncos pulled off a blockbuster trade for Russell Wilson,

1355
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 3: giving up multiple high draft picks and yourself in that deal.

1356
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Speaker 3: Did you have any inkling that you might be traded

1357
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: or was it a total shock?

1358
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: No, I was.

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Speaker 14: I was pretty shocked, to be honest with you. Hindsight

1360
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 14: twenty twenty. Obviously, I'll understand, right, it's like you get

1361
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 14: your shot at a franchise quarterback at the time that

1362
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 14: you think it is your franchise quarterback and you're gonna

1363
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 14: do whatever. You know you're not going to hold back

1364
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 14: a tight end to for that deal, you know what

1365
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 14: I'm saying. So I understood, I understood it. I was

1366
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 14: definitely shocked and taken it back by it. Some would

1367
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 14: say blindsided, but like, man, it was such crazy experience,

1368
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 14: and obviously was traded to Seattle and had some good

1369
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 14: years there, but uh, yeah, it was.

1370
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Speaker 1: It was definitely wild, a wild experience for sure.

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Speaker 3: So three years in Denver, three years in Seattle, and

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Speaker 3: then earlier this year they let you go kind of

1373
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: in a salary cap dump type situation. But it did

1374
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: give you the opportunity affinity to choose for the first

1375
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: time since you were in high school. Did you enjoy that?

1376
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Speaker 14: It was a very interesting experience because it was I

1377
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 14: supposed to choosing thing, but at a time that was

1378
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 14: very late in the process, and you know, people had

1379
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 14: already really had the roster set and things of that nature.

1380
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 14: So yeah, it was nice to choose, I suppose, but like,

1381
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 14: wasn't an ideal situation that late in the game, which

1382
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 14: is kind of a little frustrating. But yes, I was

1383
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 14: happy to be able to land in Cincinnati. What a

1384
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 14: great place for me to land that with coach Taylor

1385
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 14: and and pitch and and James Casey is a great,

1386
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 14: great Titans coach. I've been really really fortunate to be

1387
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 14: able to work with them and be in a good

1388
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 14: situation here. So it ended up working out, but obviously

1389
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 14: it was definitely a process to get there for sure.

1390
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: All Right, a few wild card topics now for Bengals

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: tight end Noah Fan Who is your all time favorite

1392
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: athlete in any sport?

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01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 14: I would say Michael Jordan. I wasn't old enough to

1394
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 14: like see him in his prime, but just like the

1395
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 14: greatness of him and the championships that he's won that

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 14: is all of his highlights.

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: He's just an iconic player.

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 14: Whenever someone mentions like a goat of a sport, it's

1399
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 14: like he automatically comes up. He's definitely a polarizing player

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 14: that not only changed the game, but changed really just

1401
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 14: like the world kind of honestly, He's like he was

1402
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 14: a world known athlete. So it was like, what a

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 14: cool what a cool experience, like experience to be able

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 14: to see but unfortunately I wasn't able to see it,

1405
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 14: But what a cool experience to like be able to

1406
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 14: go back and watch those highlights and experience that greatness so,

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 14: and he made.

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: It okay for people like me to be bald. Yeah,

1409
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 3: you've spent seven years in the NFL, You've done well financially.

1410
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: What do you like to splur John, Food?

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 14: That's like, that's one of the things that I'll like

1412
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 14: pay a good a good dollar for. Is like a

1413
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 14: just a really good meal, especially like with friends and families,

1414
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 14: which is which is one of the things that I

1415
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 14: value very much.

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: So food is definitely one of those things.

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: Big fancy steakhouse are something more eclectic and foodie either one.

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 14: I'm I'm a pretty wide range guy that'll that'll like

1419
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 14: have anything to eat, And honestly, it's a it's just

1420
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 14: a what's the choice of the day, honestly.

1421
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 3: So other than sports, do you have any hidden talents?

1422
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't know about hidden talents.

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 14: I just kind of I try to view myself as

1424
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 14: like a like a pretty multifaceted guy, Like I just

1425
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 14: like a lot of different things. I do a lot

1426
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 14: of different things, and I don't think there's just one

1427
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 14: one singular thing that I'm like super talented at though.

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: All right, final fun fact for Noah, this one's kind

1429
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: of deep. If you could meet anybody in history living

1430
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 3: or deceased. Who would that person be.

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 14: I would want to meet my my dad, my dad's dad.

1432
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 14: He passed away when my dad was very young, so

1433
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 14: it had been my grandpa, but I never got to

1434
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 14: meet him. But I definitely wouldn't want to met him

1435
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 14: and just kind of talk to him and see what

1436
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 14: he see how he viewed life, see how he viewed everything.

1437
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 14: Obviously my dad didn't wasn't able to have those those

1438
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 14: moments with him very long, But yeah, I think those

1439
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 14: would be some really cool conversations to see what he thought.

1440
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. No, I appreciate your time, best

1441
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 3: of luck the rest of the year.

1442
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. Appreciate it all right?

1443
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: That was fun Facts with tight end Noah Fan, great

1444
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: job Dan, now, thank you. When the Bengals signed him,

1445
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: we thought there was going to be the opportunity for

1446
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: some great two tight end packages with no and Mike

1447
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: is Sicky. Fortunately, Mike got hurt early this year with

1448
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: a pectoral injury, but his four week window for where

1449
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: he has to be out is about to run out

1450
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: and he could be back soon. It sounds like he's

1451
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 3: recovering well from that pectoral injury.

1452
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 4: That's good, and he is a He is a weapon.

1453
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 10: You know.

1454
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 4: I think back in the day, teams that could run

1455
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 4: two tight end package were formidable because it just balances

1456
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 4: everything out, you know. I mean, the defense can't really

1457
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 4: have a pre snap read in terms of where's the

1458
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 4: strength of the formation, where might they go, Where's strong

1459
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 4: side weak side? Kind of distorts all of that. So

1460
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 4: having multiple tight ends on your roster that are capable

1461
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 4: and can go out there and play at a high

1462
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: level and help you win football games is a great

1463
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: luxury in today's NFL.

1464
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, we know that Joe Burrow

1465
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 3: is back at practice. The question is should he play

1466
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: this year regardless of the Bengals record. We'll discuss that

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Speaker 3: when we come back. You're listening to the Bengals pep

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Speaker 3: a very pleasant surprise at the beginning of this week

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Speaker 3: on Monday, when we saw Joe Burrow back at practice,

1492
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Speaker 3: albeit on a limited basis, which is to be expected

1493
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: coming back from his toe injury. But the prognosis when

1494
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 3: he suffered the injury was that it was a three

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Speaker 3: month recovery. He was practicing again in less than two months.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's Joe Burrow. That's what he's all about.

1497
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: He's all about, you know, if somebody says you can't

1498
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 4: do it, and I'll show you. I'll show you I

1499
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 4: can do it, and I'm gonna go do it. Uber

1500
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: competitive man, he really is. I mean if if if

1501
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: people say it's unreachable, he's going to reach for it

1502
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 4: and he's gonna get get grab it, He's going to

1503
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: get it. I think that he plays this this week

1504
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: coming up. I think there's a strong chance anyway, not.

1505
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: This week, not Sunday against Pittsburgh, the following, Okay, the

1506
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: home game against New England. You think that's passed.

1507
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 4: The Patriots game, I think is possible. I'd love to

1508
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 4: see you play this Sunday, But I don't.

1509
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: Know he's out for this week because of the.

1510
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 4: Number of days. You've got twenty one days and he

1511
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 4: hasn't served that sentence. Hyeit, but I mean he is

1512
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: a guy that is I'm gonna do it on my schedule.

1513
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 4: I don't care what you think. Your opinion is your opinion.

1514
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 4: I know what I can do I know what my

1515
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 4: body can do. And you know he takes care of himself.

1516
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean the guys in unbelievable shape, the conditioning that

1517
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 4: he goes through, and unfortunately he's been doing a rehab

1518
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 4: and conditioning way too much the last few years. But

1519
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean this guy, he works hard. He works in

1520
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: the weight room hard overall body. I mean his quads,

1521
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 4: his hamstrings, his calves, his pectoral, his delta, everything is

1522
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 4: strong on him and he's put on about i'd say

1523
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: a good fifteen pounds of muscle.

1524
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: Dan.

1525
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: When you look at him walk into a room, it's like, man,

1526
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: this guy's substantial. Now you know he's put together and

1527
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 4: he certainly hasn't affected him negatively in terms of how

1528
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: he's throwing the football. He is a beautiful thrower of the.

1529
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 3: Football, no doubt. As I said earlier, I was surprised

1530
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 3: to see him on the practice field on Monday. I

1531
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: was not alone. Let's hear from Jamar Chase and T Higgins.

1532
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 6: I didn't know he was practicing. I was surprised. I

1533
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 6: just seen him putting stuff on. I didn't know what's

1534
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 6: going on.

1535
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he caught. I came in the locker room and

1536
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 4: he was like, you see now. I was like, well

1537
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 4: he doing He was like, he's practicing. I was like, oh,

1538
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 4: it's not so. He caught me off guard too.

1539
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 6: I think his personality makes him unique. The way he

1540
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 6: approaches the game makes him crazy. How much he loves

1541
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 6: the game makes him crazy. That's how much passion he

1542
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 6: has behind it. And nothing's wrong with that.

1543
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: He just wants to win. And you know you need

1544
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: people around you like that.

1545
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 3: All right, lap, Let's get to the big debate that's

1546
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 3: going on right now among Bengals fans. The Bengals are

1547
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: three and six. Yeah, if they win in Pittsburgh this week,

1548
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 3: they are still in the hunt right to win the

1549
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 3: AFC North. If they don't, it is a real long shot.

1550
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: Although I guess if Baltimore loses this week, maybe they've

1551
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: still got a pulse. But anyway, should wins and losses

1552
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: matter or should Joe Burrow come back at some point

1553
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: this year regardless of what the Bengals record is?

1554
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a matter of opinion. I'm sure

1555
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: Bengal fans would be Look, if don't win this week,

1556
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 4: three and seven, the odds of turning it around and

1557
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 4: having a potential playoff season are almost nil. But Joe

1558
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,440
Speaker 4: doesn't look at it that way. Joe looks at he

1559
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 4: lives to play football. I mean, he eats, sleeps, and

1560
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 4: drinks football. He's football twenty four to seven, seven days

1561
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 4: a week, three undred and sixty five days a year,

1562
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 4: and twelve months a year. It's just the way he's built,

1563
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: the way he's uh, he's put together. You know. I

1564
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 4: think he wants to see where he is, and I

1565
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 4: think he wants to evaluate physical He'll want to play

1566
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 4: absolutely and you know, and compete against the best at

1567
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 4: the highest level for as many games as you possibly can.

1568
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's what makes him get up in

1569
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 4: the morning, man. It's what makes him tick, makes us

1570
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: heart kicking, makes everything tick.

1571
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. My feelings on this subjective changed. So

1572
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: during the early stages of his recovery, I thought, all right,

1573
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 3: if he can come back and the Bengals still have

1574
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 3: a chance to make the playoffs, you'd certainly want him

1575
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 3: in the playoffs if he was healthy. So I was

1576
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: kind of thinking, it's going to depend on the record.

1577
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: Now that he's practicing and could conceivably come back with

1578
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 3: four games left, right, five games left something like that.

1579
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: I'd play him because A it's his belief that you

1580
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 3: can always gain something from playing. You can learn something,

1581
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: you can develop timing and you know, chemistry with your

1582
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: receiving targets. It means something to him to show that

1583
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 3: he can come back this year. It means something to

1584
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 3: him to show that his teammates, show to his teammates

1585
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 3: that it's important enough for him to come back this year.

1586
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: So my feeling has changed from only bring him back

1587
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: if it's important too. If the doctors say the toe

1588
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: is not at risk and he wants to play, let

1589
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 3: him play.

1590
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 4: I agree. And I mean everybody in the division has

1591
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: four losses, you know, I mean four losses or more? Yeah,

1592
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 4: four losses and more so. I mean, if the Bengals

1593
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 4: knock off the Pittsburgh Steelers again and they fall, they're closer,

1594
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 4: They're closer to where the Cincinnati Bengals are. And I

1595
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 4: just I feel like, no matter what if the if

1596
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 4: the division is within grasp and there's a month of

1597
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 4: playing the season, he's gonna want to go after it

1598
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 4: tooth and nail. He's gonna go want to go after

1599
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 4: it one hundred and I think the more snaps he gets.

1600
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 4: The more reps he gets under his belt, the more

1601
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 4: confident he's going to be, the more comfortable he's going

1602
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 4: to feel, and the better he's gonna play.

1603
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 3: Naturally, if the Bengals are out of it and he plays,

1604
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: you open yourself up to the biggest second gesh of

1605
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 3: all time. Should another injury happen. Yep, that would be

1606
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: the risk. But that's football. So are you gonna put

1607
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,879
Speaker 3: him in bubble wrap forever?

1608
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 4: Uh?

1609
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 3: You know, when he feels healthy and ready to go,

1610
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't think he can do that. This is what

1611
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 3: he does. If he feels healthy and back in a

1612
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: good practice groove, wants to play, and feels like he's

1613
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: ready to play, then he's a guy.

1614
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 4: You got to play. Yeah. This is who he is,

1615
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 4: This is what he wants to be. This is what

1616
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 4: he's chosen as a profession in his adult life, and

1617
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 4: he's great at it. And uh, you know he he's

1618
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 4: going to be able to put up significant numbers. He

1619
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 4: always does. I mean, when Joe Burrow plays, he rings

1620
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: him up, He rings up numbers, and he's not playing

1621
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 4: to pat his stats. That's not what I'm saying, and

1622
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: that's not what is in his mind, he's playing to

1623
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 4: win football games for the Cincinnati Bengals. Uh, there's no

1624
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 4: question about it. That's what his mo is. But man,

1625
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 4: I think, I think when he when all said and done,

1626
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 4: when he's done playing the game of football, he's going

1627
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 4: to have numbers at the quarterback position, yards, touchdowns, uist, interceptions.

1628
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: He's going to be the leader across the board. I

1629
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: think he's got that.

1630
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: Kind of ability, kind of like those Aaron Rodgers numbers

1631
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 3: who have given earlier sixty four thousand yards crazy five

1632
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: and twenty one touchdown passes and twenty.

1633
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 4: One touchdown passes. That's absurd, man, that's crazy, it really is.

1634
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: I mean, mind buggling.

1635
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers will take on the Bengals for the sixth

1636
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 3: time in his career this Sunday at one o'clock. The

1637
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 3: Bengals do have a winning record against him. They're three

1638
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 3: and two in the previous five games. They've come up

1639
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 3: with quite a few interceptions in those games. Aaron Rodgers

1640
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: historically has not thrown many in his NFL career, but

1641
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: in five career games against Cincinnati, he's thrown six interceptions,

1642
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 3: including two in Game one earlier this year. Won by

1643
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: Jordan Battle and one by DJ Turner. All Right, two

1644
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 3: hours just about in the books. One hour to go.

1645
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 3: Our special guest is here. Will take a time out,

1646
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 3: We'll come back and we will introduce Bengals kicker Kevin McPherson.

1647
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented byy Just

1648
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 3: Bear Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1649
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:01,120
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1650
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,240
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1651
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,479
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1652
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:14,040
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1653
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 2: Official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. This is ESPN

1654
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: fifteen to thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1655
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 3: Money Mack is ready. He takes a deep breath, waits

1656
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 3: for the long snap back to Rico. Rico puts it

1657
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 3: down to kick his up.

1658
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 15: It is good, gosh, and the Bengals have a two

1659
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 15: point lead with seven seconds left on the clock.

1660
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 4: Nice gotta love it. Joe Flacco, Welcome to Cincinnati, my man.

1661
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: All right, that's how it sounded almost exactly a month ago.

1662
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,480
Speaker 3: The last time the Bengals beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, Cincinnati

1663
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: winning on a field goal with seven seconds to go

1664
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 3: by Evan McPherson thirty three to thirty one. And that

1665
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 3: makes our special guest this afternoon here at the on

1666
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: the Ryan Eatery very appropriate. We are joined by the

1667
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: guy that made that kick, one of eight game winners

1668
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 3: in his Bengals career. Money back, Evan McPherson, Welcome to

1669
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: the show. Thanks for being here.

1670
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's always fun to get to do a show

1671
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 10: with y'all. We appreciate time very much, much self time

1672
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 10: worth it.

1673
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: Thank you. Let's turn the clock back to that game.

1674
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: It was an interesting one because with less than a

1675
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: minute to go, that was the game that featured this

1676
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 3: unselfish t Higgins slide when he could have run in

1677
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: for the go ahead touchdown, but given the Steelers more

1678
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 3: time to potentially come back. Instead, he goes into the slide.

1679
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 3: But once he did that, then all the pressure shifts

1680
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: to you.

1681
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, that was a really unselfish play by

1682
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 10: team because he definitely could have easily walked into the

1683
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 10: end zone. But I mean, you got to realize who's

1684
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 10: on the other side. Of the field. One of the

1685
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 10: best to ever do it out of Aaron Rodgers. And

1686
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 10: he's got a good receiving core and group there and

1687
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 10: really dangerous team. And so you're taught, and we're taught

1688
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 10: as a team to be unselfish in times like that

1689
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 10: and set the team up for success. And this really

1690
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 10: unselfish play by Tea And as soon as he did it,

1691
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 10: I knew kind of what we were going to do.

1692
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 10: Set up for the last second field goal. It's a

1693
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 10: it's a make or break and win a loss, and

1694
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 10: those are always a lot of fun.

1695
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 4: Darren Simmons, Yes, it has been your special teams coach your

1696
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 4: entire career in the National Football League. In my opinion,

1697
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 4: he's the best in the business, the best at any level. Yeah,

1698
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: of football. You're with him basically every day.

1699
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: Huh.

1700
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 4: What makes Darren Simmons special? What separates him from the

1701
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 4: pack man?

1702
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 10: He he's a nitpicker. He'll yep, if I'm not making

1703
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 10: field goals down the center of the uprights, he'll give

1704
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 10: it to me. Even if they're going in, he'll say

1705
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 10: it's not good enough. Then you go down the center.

1706
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 10: And he's like that with everybody on the team. If

1707
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 10: you're doing your job correctly, he's gonna find a weak

1708
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 10: point that you have and he's gonna tell you that

1709
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 10: you need to work on it. So I think just

1710
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 10: his attention to detail is probably above the rest, I

1711
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 10: would say. So, I feel like his attention to detail

1712
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 10: and his willingness to not just kind of tell you

1713
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 10: what you want to hear, but tell you what you

1714
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 10: need to hear is kind of what sets him apart.

1715
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 3: In that Pittsburgh game where you hit the game winner,

1716
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 3: I remember looking down toward the field before the game.

1717
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 3: So it's a Thursday night game against the Steelers, and

1718
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: there had to be twenty guys, thirty guys, like thirty

1719
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 3: grown men wearing yeah McPherson jerseys. Who was that group?

1720
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, So there's a small group I'm part of, been

1721
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 10: a part of for about three and a half years.

1722
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 10: And it's a group of twelve guys that we got

1723
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 10: together through crossroads, you know, just kind of a group

1724
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 10: that I was thrust it into, invited into, and they've

1725
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 10: been great for I feel like development off the field,

1726
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 10: em just in my relationship with God and just my

1727
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 10: relationship outside of football. I can go to them with

1728
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 10: any issues anything I'm feeling struggling with. And they've been

1729
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 10: a real important part of this journey in Cincinnati.

1730
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 3: So there, it wasn't quite as big as I thought

1731
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 3: from looking down there. But twelve guys yep, wearing your

1732
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 3: jerseys that you befriended through the Crossrooms church.

1733
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been great. We meet every Monday night. Well

1734
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 10: I say every Monday night, Monday nights every whenever we

1735
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 10: all can, but it's usually every Monday night, if not

1736
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 10: every other. But yeah, we just get together, talk about life,

1737
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 10: talk about the Bible, just kind of bounced off off

1738
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 10: each other, and any struggles that we have in our life,

1739
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 10: we talk about it. And there's a lot of wise

1740
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 10: men in that in that room that are older than

1741
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 10: us and have been through a lot of situations, so

1742
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 10: they're good to kind of learn from. And had breakfast

1743
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 10: with the Leader this morning, so.

1744
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 3: That ye great that they could be there for that

1745
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: particular night. The way it ended.

1746
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 10: We always me and the Leader will always talk like strategy,

1747
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 10: What game should the guys come to? And I always

1748
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 10: tell people you need to come to a night game

1749
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 10: at Paykor Stadium because I think the fans show up

1750
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 10: and show out for those for those games, and I

1751
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 10: always enjoy night games, so I always tell people to

1752
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 10: come to those.

1753
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1754
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 4: So, what's the longest field goal you've made? Sixty one

1755
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 4: for the Bengals?

1756
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 10: Sixty on unofficial? Yeah, yeah, yeah, in a game when

1757
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 10: the unofficial didn't count.

1758
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, give us stat first.

1759
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, the sixty seven in Green Bay obviously went in,

1760
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 10: didn't count.

1761
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 3: The time out actually the timeout was yeah right.

1762
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all the time out to nullify it.

1763
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 10: But yeah, I think the longest field going franchise history,

1764
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 10: right is fifty nine?

1765
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 3: Correct? Somebody won a gift card for eventually guessing that

1766
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: events earlier that we went through every number in the

1767
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 3: spectrum from about fifty five to seventy before we have

1768
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 3: actually got the correct fifty nine.

1769
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

1770
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I remember that one vividly right Week one against Pittsburgh.

1771
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 10: I think it was. Was it my first field goal

1772
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 10: to open the season the second year, right, first field

1773
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 10: goal my second year? Yeah, I hit it really well,

1774
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 10: game didn't and how how i'd like it to.

1775
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,879
Speaker 3: That's the one where you lost your long snapper, correct,

1776
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 3: Harris yep, and poor Mitchell Wilcott tight end gets thrussed

1777
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 3: in there trying to long snap and actually did. Yeah,

1778
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 3: but you know that's a hard thing to do when

1779
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: that's not your job.

1780
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 10: It is, yeah, because we have guys that we also

1781
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 10: like obviously prepare for the worst of the situations and

1782
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 10: so like we have backup holders. Charlie Jones is our

1783
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 10: backup holder, and once a week he'll get a rep

1784
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 10: and he's like, if I get into a game, I'm

1785
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 10: gonna be He's like, I don't care about kickoff, kickoff return,

1786
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 10: punt return. My sole focus is going to be on holding,

1787
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna be terrified for my life. He's like,

1788
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 10: that is the most stressful thing that I've ever.

1789
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Done in my life.

1790
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 3: Is Tanner Hudson your emergency long snamp?

1791
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 10: Yep? Yeah, yeah, Tanner. So they both get a wrap

1792
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 10: once a week just to make sure that you know,

1793
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 10: you brush up on it and you're never surprised whenever

1794
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 10: that kind of comes up.

1795
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: So is what what is when you when you make

1796
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 4: a try attempting these long field goals a game winner.

1797
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 4: You know you're down a point or two points and

1798
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 4: you have to make this this long, monstrous field goal

1799
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 4: to win the game. What what goes through your head

1800
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 4: is it. Is it the mental part of the techniques

1801
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 4: fundamentals that you've worked throughout the entire week, your legs swing,

1802
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 4: all the mechanics and all that, or is it like

1803
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 4: all right, deep breath, calm down, let me just get

1804
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 4: myself composed. What do you what do you think about? More?

1805
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 10: I just try to kind of keep myself calm and

1806
01:34:53,479 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 10: keep myself from having negative thoughts as you've probably experience,

1807
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 10: Like the mind is is your biggest enemy. Yeah, and

1808
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 10: for whatever reason, in those big spots, like your mind

1809
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 10: just wants to flip to like, oh, well, what happens

1810
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 10: if I don't make this? Like and you just kind

1811
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 10: of have that run through your head. So for me recently,

1812
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 10: it's just running through my head the scenario of what

1813
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 10: happens when I make it and seeing that ball go

1814
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 10: through the uprights before I even step out on the field,

1815
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 10: and I'm just telling myself, you know, you got this,

1816
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 10: You've done it in a million times, to just go

1817
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 10: out there and do it one more. And just the

1818
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 10: whole visualization of just seeing that ball go through the

1819
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 10: uprights in my head and then just kind of reacting

1820
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 10: to that right to what I see.

1821
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 3: So in your rookie year when you made five lockoff

1822
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 3: game winners for very first NFL game, you made one

1823
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: Amsy Championship game, you made one. We'll hear that later

1824
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 3: on the show. Were you like too young and naive

1825
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 3: at that point to even have any negative thoughts?

1826
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 10: I guess so, because I go back and think about

1827
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 10: that year. I definitely struggled mentally there for a little bit,

1828
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 10: like middle of the season, and then for whatever reason,

1829
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 10: I came out of it on the other side and

1830
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 10: later in the season, and it's kind of expresses like

1831
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 10: you just kind of blacked out and don't remember much

1832
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 10: and don't remember what I was thinking in those moments.

1833
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:15,879
Speaker 10: I was just kind of going out there and reacting

1834
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 10: and just kind of letting letting loose and just swinging,

1835
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 10: swinging away.

1836
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 4: You know, people, I think a lot of times don't

1837
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 4: give kickers the credit for the athlete that they are,

1838
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 4: because in Bengals history, the kickers, I mean, I had

1839
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 4: a teammate, Jim Breach, unbelievable athlete. Jim Breach was like

1840
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 4: All City, All State in football, basketball, and baseball. You know,

1841
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 4: I mean, point guard in basketball, shortstop baseball, hell of

1842
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 4: a golfer. He has the hell out of the golf ball.

1843
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 4: He's amazing and a lot of Doug Pelfy in the

1844
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 4: same way. Pelsa hell of an athlete. And how about you,

1845
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 4: what's sports would you excel at besides just kicking the football?

1846
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 10: I mean, I grew up playing I feel like all

1847
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 10: the sports I stopped, soccer was my main sport. I

1848
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 10: stopped playing baseball when I was twelve, and then basketball

1849
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 10: in eighth grade, but I stuck with soccer for the

1850
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 10: most part, and we won a state championship my freshman

1851
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 10: year of high school. So that's kind of my My

1852
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 10: big success in high school is the state championship in

1853
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 10: soccer and then one I feel like state titles, like

1854
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 10: in travel soccer. Uh, it was like Division two, so

1855
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 10: it was like redbind Division one. We went to Division

1856
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 10: one for like one year and it was just a

1857
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 10: whole different level. Yeah, so, but we wanted a few

1858
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 10: state titles in Division two soccer and travel years from

1859
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 10: like seven to i'd say thirteen to fourteen. Yeah, but yeah,

1860
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 10: so soccer. I was pretty good at golf. I'm getting

1861
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 10: better at every year, you know, trying to do yeah,

1862
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 10: trying to get better.

1863
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so am I it's only been fifty years trying.

1864
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 4: Let me ask you out watching you, uh, in practice

1865
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 4: on the on the foot, on the field in warm

1866
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 4: ups before games, you'll have like a bottle or a

1867
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 4: can of some sort of beverage or whatever. Yeah, that

1868
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 4: that your your leg swing is like right in front

1869
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 4: of it by like the centimeters, you know, half an

1870
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 4: inch or an inch. Yeah, what what are you doing there?

1871
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 4: You're just trying to groove your swing or your leg.

1872
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 10: Yeah. You know a lot of people picked out uh

1873
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 10: kind of that drill that I'm doing. And it's a

1874
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 10: simple one that I started, like back whenever I was

1875
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 10: going through the draft process. So with my plant foot,

1876
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 10: my left foot, I'll get into a situation where it

1877
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 10: can get a little too close to the ball and

1878
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 10: I'm a little pigeon toed, so to be kind of

1879
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 10: pointing right and then it'll make me like swing around

1880
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 10: it and go get around the ball and pull it.

1881
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 10: And it's just super inconsistent. And so I kind of

1882
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 10: hurt my ankle a little bit back in May, and

1883
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 10: then it was forcing me to protect it kind of

1884
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 10: be a little more pigeon toed. And so throughout the

1885
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 10: summer and the more my ankle got stronger and felt

1886
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 10: better about it. I started using this ball. I remember

1887
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 10: what the drills that I did through the draft process

1888
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 10: and what helped my plant foot kind of stay straight

1889
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 10: down the field and wide enough away from the ball

1890
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 10: so I can have consistent ball contact. And so that's

1891
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 10: what it is. It's just kind of like a drill

1892
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 10: that I'll use to kind of get my plant foot

1893
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 10: in the right spot. And so whenever I'm out in

1894
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 10: the field, it's kind of the same thing. Like I

1895
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 10: don't really think about it with all that training that

1896
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 10: I'm doing. My body just kind of reacts and.

1897
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: Does it all right, We need to take a time out.

1898
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 3: Evan McPherson is our special guest. He'll be here until

1899
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: five thirty today. We're live at the On the Rhine Eatery,

1900
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: the food hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut.

1901
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 3: At ESPN fifteen thirty, we are back on the Bengals

1902
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 3: pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. We're live

1903
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 3: at the On the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati.

1904
01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 4: Now.

1905
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 3: Normally our special guests signed during the commercial breaks, but

1906
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 3: we are extending that a little bit right now because

1907
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 3: money Mack Evin McPherson is signing a leg, not an

1908
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:15,440
Speaker 3: actual leg like a leg lamp. It is a mannequin's

1909
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: leg with a light bulb attachment on the top and

1910
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 3: a white kicking shoe. Is that the first one of

1911
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: those you've signed?

1912
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 10: I don't know if it's to your surprise, but it's

1913
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 10: it's not about that. Yeah, I probably, I don't know,

1914
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 10: maybe around ten ten. A lot of people have those.

1915
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:37,480
Speaker 3: That is hysterical.

1916
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 10: It is funny because the first one I saw is

1917
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 10: like somebody's like, do you know what this is? You

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Speaker 10: know it's from?

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Speaker 3: Is it Chrischristmas Story? Christmas Story?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I had a lamp before, but I.

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Speaker 10: Don't think I really watched the movie, so I understood

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Speaker 10: what it was and I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is That is definitely the best autograph item

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Speaker 3: we have seen on this show so far. Here, what

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Speaker 3: is the most unusual thing you've signed? Have you signed

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Speaker 3: like baby's heads or anything?

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Speaker 10: Or I mean I've signed a few babies like clothes

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Speaker 10: signed while they were wearing it's a Yeah, it was

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Speaker 10: kind of strange, and I feel like if you guys

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Speaker 10: have done this as well, like there's somebody at training

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Speaker 10: camp that's a prosthetic leg that they will take.

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Speaker 3: Off okay and give it to you to sign.

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Speaker 10: And then I know there's one lady that has like

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Speaker 10: a little orange car car. Yeah, everybody signs, so it's

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Speaker 10: pretty strange. But yeah, I say, a prosthetic leg is

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Speaker 10: probably the strangest thing that I've signed.

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Speaker 4: Strangest thing I've signed. Yeah, where it's panties. Well it

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Speaker 4: was at a show.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they were not No, no, she didn't take.

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Speaker 4: Them off for anything. Sign. Yeah, they didn't go through

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Speaker 4: the washers, dryer. But another parent it's like these they're

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Speaker 4: very nice. I'm so glad.

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Speaker 3: I asked, all right, we need to take another quick

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Speaker 3: time out more with money Mack Kevin McPherson in Just

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Speaker 3: a Moment here at ESPN in fifteen thirty, Dan Orden,

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Speaker 3: Dave Lap I'm back at the on the Ryan Eatery

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Speaker 3: here at downtown Cincinnati. It's the Bengals pep Rawley Show

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Speaker 3: presented by just Paar Chicken. Our engineer is Mike Mills.

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Speaker 3: Drew Wester. Heidi is back in the studio. Nicky Growl

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Speaker 3: is helping us out with the autographs. Today we appreciate

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Speaker 3: everybody involved with this show, and we obviously appreciate our

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Speaker 3: special guest Evin McPherson with us for the final hour. Today,

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Speaker 3: Let's hear from Special Teams coordinator Darren Simmons on Money Mack.

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Speaker 16: I've learned to not worry a lot about things with

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Speaker 16: him that he'll.

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Speaker 10: Get it figured out.

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Speaker 16: He's very, very very strong mentally. He's really really mature

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Speaker 16: and understands a great deal about being a kicker and

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Speaker 16: what it means to be an effective kicker in crunch time.

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Speaker 16: So I never ever worry about him in critical spots.

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Speaker 16: He thrives in situations like that because he's so competitive.

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Speaker 3: I agree, we never worry about you and those critical

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Speaker 3: spots almost every time you were able to deliver. Here's

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Speaker 3: my question for you. Darren Simmons was a college punter,

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Speaker 3: so he's got some experience kind of in the kicking world.

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Speaker 3: But who taught you? Were you self taught largely? Did

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Speaker 3: you have a kicking guru from an early age? How

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Speaker 3: did you learn to do this?

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Speaker 10: I feel like early on it was a lot of

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Speaker 10: self taught YouTube Definitely. My older brother was the one

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Speaker 10: that tried it out first, and so whenever he tried

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Speaker 10: out for the football team and made it and started

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Speaker 10: kicking as me and my younger brother were just in

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Speaker 10: the front yard just kicking footballs. Didn't really know how

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Speaker 10: we knew how to kick a soccer ball, so we

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Speaker 10: just kind of implemented that and watched a lot of

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Speaker 10: YouTube videos to start, and then we started going to

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Speaker 10: bi weekly. This guy like an hour and a half away,

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Speaker 10: his name is Mike McCabe. One on one kicking. That's

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Speaker 10: where we started, Uh, just kind of like one on

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Speaker 10: one training and then with the camp series and trying

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Speaker 10: to get exposure and rankings, like we would go to

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Speaker 10: Cole's Kicking and that's kind of who I stick to now.

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Speaker 10: Jamie Cole is the head of that and he's just

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Speaker 10: fantastic human being, a great person personally for me to

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Speaker 10: just kind of reach out to and talk to every

1988
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Speaker 10: now and then. And we get together once a year,

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Speaker 10: uh probably about twenty of us like kickers, punters, long snappers,

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Speaker 10: and Gatlinburg once a year and we just kind of

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Speaker 10: get together kick.

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Speaker 3: College people.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so they have like a huge weekend NFL will

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Speaker 10: be I think it's Wednesday Thursday. NFL guys will come

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Speaker 10: and kick and then call it or now Tuesday, Wednesday

1996
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Speaker 10: will be NFL Thursday, Friday's College and then Saturday Sunday

1997
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Speaker 10: is there big high school camp. And so they just

1998
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Speaker 10: make a big week out of it in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.

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Speaker 10: And so you have your slots, but it's always fun

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Speaker 10: just together like with other NFL guys, with Jamie and

2001
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Speaker 10: his staff, they've they've got a great staff. They don't

2002
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Speaker 10: they care about you as a player, but more important,

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Speaker 10: they care about you as a person. And that's kind

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Speaker 10: of why I graduate kind of favored them more than

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Speaker 10: the others, is just because the way they had treated

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Speaker 10: me off the field, and they were They've always been

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Speaker 10: great to me, great to my family, and I will

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Speaker 10: forever be in debt for for the work that they

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Speaker 10: put in to get me recruited and get me looked at.

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Speaker 4: So Kickers are great athletes. You know, we talked about

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Speaker 4: it a little bit. Preach. Preach was unbelievable athlete in

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Speaker 4: high school, All state, All City, all state basketball player,

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Speaker 4: football player, baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you played soccer or not, but

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Speaker 4: I mean he played as many sports as you could play.

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Speaker 4: Were you of that same mindset? Did you probably everything

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Speaker 4: when you were younger.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely tried everything whenever I was younger, but in

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Speaker 10: high school, mainly for me, it was just soccer, football,

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Speaker 10: you know. It didn't really golf as much as I

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Speaker 10: do now. You man, I've got a core group of friends.

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Speaker 10: It's probably make up of a like five to seven

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Speaker 10: guys that will come up to one one game of year.

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Speaker 10: And I started playing soccer with them whenever I was

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Speaker 10: like seven, and we played all the way through throughout

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Speaker 10: high school with and so you know, I still talk

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Speaker 10: to them on a daily basis, and they're some of

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Speaker 10: my biggest fans, and so I love just keeping that

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Speaker 10: relate those relationships, those those are big for me and

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Speaker 10: just being back from home. It's always good to see

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Speaker 10: him whever they get to come up.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Who are your closest buddies in the kicking fraternity?

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Speaker 10: Closest buddies in the kids like that? That's a good one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So my best friend I met him. It was eighth grade.

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Speaker 10: I think it was eighth grade camp. One of the

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Speaker 10: first I met him, name is Jake Kmarta. He's a

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Speaker 10: punter from Norcross, Georgia, and I got injured at this camp,

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Speaker 10: and I was pretty upset that I didn't perform the

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Speaker 10: way I wanted to. And he was the only guy

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Speaker 10: that came up to me after the camp when I

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Speaker 10: was visibly upset and asked me how I was doing.

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Speaker 10: And from that point on, we just kind of started

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Speaker 10: following each other on Instagram. And he had a girlfriend

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Speaker 10: at the time, I had my wife. We were dating

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Speaker 10: at the time, and we would just take turns kind

2049
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Speaker 10: of visiting each other, double dating at top golf and

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Speaker 10: going out to dinner together. And that's just kind of

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Speaker 10: blossomed into where I mean, I facetimed him today, so

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Speaker 10: we talked daily. You could ask both of our wives

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Speaker 10: if they're annoyed by it, So I would say he's

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Speaker 10: my closest friend. He was with the Bucks for two

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Speaker 10: and a half years and then short stint with the Bills,

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Speaker 10: and now he's he's on the streets right now but

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Speaker 10: looking to get another opportunity. But other kickers, I mean

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Speaker 10: Cam Little, that's a record holder, Yeah, new record holder.

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Speaker 10: So you know, if if the record would account, it

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Speaker 10: wouldn't stood.

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Speaker 3: For long, that's right. So just to explain for people

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Speaker 3: wondering what I'm talking about you attempted a sixty seven

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Speaker 3: yarder against Green Bay. First try was good, the coach

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Speaker 3: called the time out. Yep, second try was a little

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Speaker 3: bit short. That would have been the NFL record. But

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Speaker 3: then a couple of weeks later, your friend cam Little

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Speaker 3: made a sixty eight yarder for Jacksonville and that's now

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Speaker 3: the new NFL record. It is.

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Speaker 10: So we'll see if he gets broken, but yeah, him,

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Speaker 10: they're punter. Logan Cook. He was at Missippi State whenever

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Speaker 10: I was getting recruited there, so I built a relationship

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Speaker 10: with him, and I mean from there, I feel like

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Speaker 10: a lot of the guys in the NFL were good

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Speaker 10: friends with Obviously Eddie Pinero, he was at Florida right

2075
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Speaker 10: before I got there. Thomas Morestead at San Francisco. He's

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Speaker 10: always at the Coles camps in Gallinburg. He's a great mentor.

2077
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Speaker 10: He got Austin McNamara in with the Jets.

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Speaker 3: He was here a brief teammate.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 10: He's really good dude. And I'm sure I could name

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Speaker 10: play somebody from each team. I feel like I have

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Speaker 10: a pretty good relationship with all.

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Speaker 3: Right, we're gonna take a time out when we come

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Speaker 3: back we'll turn the clock back to perhaps the most

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Speaker 3: important kick in Cincinnati Bengals history. This is the Bengals

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Speaker 3: pep Rally Show presented by Just Fair Chicken. We're live

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Speaker 3: at the on the Rhyin Eatery here on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 3: final half hour The Bengals pep Rally Show presented by

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Speaker 3: Just Faired Chicken. We are live at the on the

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Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery. It is our Friday afternoon home for this show.

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Speaker 3: It's been great this year. If you haven't been down

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Speaker 3: to join us, what are you waiting for? We're here

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Speaker 3: every Friday, usually three to six. This week two thirty

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Speaker 3: to five thirty. Next week again it'll be two thirty

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Speaker 3: to five thirty. Great food options here. There's a bar,

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Speaker 3: there's a ton of seating. It's all free unless you

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01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:02,839
Speaker 3: just to get something to eat or drink. Bengals players

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Speaker 3: join us every week. They're kind enough to sign autographs

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Speaker 3: and take pictures. Just has Moneymack has been doing today

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Speaker 3: our friend Bengals kicker Evan McPherson. Prior to the commercial break,

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Speaker 3: I promised we would listen in to perhaps the most

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Speaker 3: significant kick in Cincinnati Bengals history. So let's turn the

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Speaker 3: clock back. It is the AFC Championship game against Kansas

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Speaker 3: City in the twenty twenty one season. After falling behind

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Speaker 3: twenty one to three, the Bengals come roaring back and

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Speaker 3: the game in overtime came down to this. Four years ago,

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Speaker 3: he was a senior in high school in tiny Fort Payne, Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Now the Bengals Super Bowl chances rest on his right foot.

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Speaker 3: The kick is up, yeh ye.

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Speaker 15: Good coffin nows bam, bam bam.

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Speaker 4: That is unba believable. The Cincinnati Bengals come from behind

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Speaker 4: on the road. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Dan, It is no fluke, it is a fact.

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Speaker 15: The Cincinnati Bengals are headed to Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 3: Gives me chills. Yeah, thinking back to that moment. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: hair is raising on my arm. Thank you for that memory.

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Speaker 10: We appreciate shit. You know what it fit really well

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Speaker 10: right there is it wasn't an upset.

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Speaker 3: You like that line so earlier this year, you see,

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Speaker 3: had a big victory when they were an underdog, and

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Speaker 3: I said, it's not an upset, it's an uprising. And

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Speaker 3: he found me like two days later. That was a

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Speaker 3: great line. So thank you, Thank you for listening. Appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, that one that day special. I definitely remember

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Speaker 10: it for the rest of my life. My parents are there,

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Speaker 10: my family was there. I feel like just the only

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Speaker 10: person I wish would have been there was my wife.

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Speaker 10: We were dating at the time, and she was unable

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Speaker 10: to make it. She was still in college.

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: But she go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: She did Okay, Yeah, at the Super Bowl is where

2133
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 10: she decided that she was going to graduate early and

2134
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 10: we were going to get married. So well, we were engaged.

2135
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 10: I shall say that we moved our wedding date up

2136
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 10: because she decided to leave so early.

2137
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 3: So and you were both able to watch the halftime show.

2138
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 10: We both were goe. I reminded Darren of that. Not

2139
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 10: a couple of days ago. I think there was like

2140
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 10: a Doctor Dre's song on and I was like, I

2141
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 10: got to see him in concert. He was like, oh, yeah,

2142
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 10: when was that.

2143
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: So you're coming off your bye week and basically during

2144
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 3: this time period you lost one of your closest friends

2145
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 3: off the roster. You haven't lost him as a friend,

2146
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 3: but you and Logan Wilson were tight, Your wives were tight,

2147
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 3: Your daughters were born at basically the same time.

2148
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 10: Was that tough for you, Yeah, you know, it's tough

2149
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 10: to seeing a good friend like Logan go. But I

2150
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 10: feel like, like I've said, I feel like we're still

2151
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 10: gonna stay in touch obviously, because I feel like of

2152
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 10: how close our friendship is. You know, it sucks that

2153
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna get to see him day to day,

2154
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 10: but you know, I can always keep in touch with him.

2155
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 10: I know our wives will more than likely text every

2156
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 10: single day just to keep up and see how each

2157
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 10: other are doing. But I feel like I'm more sad

2158
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 10: for our daughters. They really did enjoy spending time together,

2159
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 10: and Morgan and Cambry, their daughter, actually spent the night

2160
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 10: with us last week before they flew out because their

2161
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 10: home was gutted into they needed a bed to sleep

2162
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 10: in one last night, and so we had them over

2163
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 10: and the girls got to play together and fight for

2164
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 10: a few hours, and they fight like sisters and they're

2165
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:52,799
Speaker 10: hilarious together.

2166
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 3: Refresh my memory. Were your wives like an adjacent hospital

2167
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 3: rooms or something like that.

2168
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, the thing was me and my wife got there

2169
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 10: March fourteenth, and we had our daughter at like four

2170
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 10: point thirty seven on the fifteenth am and then Logan

2171
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 10: and his wife came in that afternoon and had their

2172
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 10: daughter and so on the recovery floor we shared a wall.

2173
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 10: That's crazy and that was kind of wild. And then

2174
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 10: they came in a few days I think the next

2175
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 10: day and introduced everybody. Everybody got to see each other

2176
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 10: and it was a fun experience.

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have fun when you guys have your reunions.

2178
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, ten or fifteen years down the road, it's like, oh, yeah, gee,

2179
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 4: what's so Oh he got into uh investment world and

2180
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 4: he's a multi gazillionaire now. And you know, I think

2181
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 4: that this football team has a bunch of guys that

2182
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 4: are really smart, you know, I mean, yeah, very smart

2183
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 4: raw football raw IQ and then football IQ as well.

2184
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 4: It's gonna be really interesting with some of these guys

2185
01:54:59,160 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 4: do down the road.

2186
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, that's always the fun thing is like

2187
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 10: what to do after football? Right, everybody's got their their

2188
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 10: thing that they're interested in. And we've got a few

2189
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 10: different ones that you wouldn't even think about, like with

2190
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 10: Marco Wilson in his fashion he's got his own clothing brand,

2191
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 10: and yeah, long snapper Will Wagner, he majored in he's

2192
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:26,839
Speaker 10: a it's an engineering guy, isn't Yeah, what is it mechanical?

2193
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 10: I don't know if he's a mechanical engineer, but yeah,

2194
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 10: he got his engineering degree. And if you maybe, if

2195
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 10: you talk to him, wouldn't even believe it. I get

2196
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 10: a hard time, but yeah, you know, we got a

2197
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 10: lot of unique guys on this team, a lot of

2198
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 10: good guys, and we all have our little special skills,

2199
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 10: right right.

2200
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 3: So the big news of this week was Joe Burrow's

2201
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 3: return to practice on a limited basis on Monday. We

2202
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 3: heard earlier on this show that Jamar Chase and t Higgins,

2203
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 3: two of his closest buddies, didn't even know he was

2204
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 3: kind of back. What about you?

2205
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, you can't can't reveal too many, too

2206
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 10: many sources, But I mean I had an idea of

2207
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 10: what he was looking at to kind of get back to.

2208
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 10: But I can tell you if you didn't ask, you

2209
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 10: were not gonna know, because you know, Joe's not the

2210
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 10: guy that's going to tell you face to face like

2211
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 10: what he's thinking about. But fiig, you're gonna have to

2212
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 10: go out and ask. And so I had an idea

2213
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 10: of whenever he wanted to return. But I can definitely

2214
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 10: see where some guys are like, oh.

2215
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 3: What's your practice today.

2216
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 10: But it's impressive to see his rehab and how hard

2217
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 10: he's going at it and how much effort he's putting

2218
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 10: into it. You can really tell that he didn't want

2219
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 10: to let it be a season ending injury after a

2220
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 10: couple of years ago.

2221
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the thing with this everybody as a

2222
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 4: group on this football team, we talked about the makeup

2223
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 4: of the character of the football team, not only the

2224
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 4: intellectual abilities of a lot of the player, but the

2225
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 4: you know, the football toughness, the mentality, gonna go get

2226
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 4: get it, gonna get after it, not gonna miss. They're

2227
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 4: saying I'm gonna miss. The three minds say I'm gonna

2228
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 4: be back in a month and a half, two months. Yeah,

2229
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 4: And Joe Borrow kind of leads the charge there, you know,

2230
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 4: I mean, he he knows that guys are looking at him,

2231
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 4: looking up to him, and the bottom line is he

2232
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 4: wants to play. I mean, then this is this is

2233
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 4: what he's a football player and he uh yeah, he's

2234
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 4: at his happiest and his best when he's not leading

2235
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 4: the football team.

2236
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 3: Right for sure.

2237
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a really tough guy, and I think he's

2238
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 10: uh shown that over the whatever six years that he's

2239
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 10: been here, willing to play through injury and put the

2240
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 10: team kind of first. And he's been really good about

2241
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 10: being a leader vocally just showing out on the field.

2242
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 10: And you know, I think a lot of guys would

2243
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 10: be excited to get him back, and I think a

2244
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 10: lot of guys are excited to see him back out

2245
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,080
Speaker 10: there just kind of going through all of what he

2246
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 10: needs to get back on the field.

2247
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, Joe Flatto has done an incredible.

2248
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 4: Amazing job.

2249
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 3: I find it impossible to imagine how he's pulled this

2250
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 3: off with a limited number of reps he's had with

2251
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 3: the team, and Bengals have averaged more than thirty two

2252
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 3: points a game in the four games that he started.

2253
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 3: Would have been your biggest impressions of your your forty

2254
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 3: year old quarterback?

2255
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, the guy that could probably be my father, you know,

2256
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 10: Joseh Yeah, he started you. You know, he's a really

2257
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 10: cool guy. You can tell, you know that he's been

2258
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 10: doing it for a long time. It doesn't take a lot,

2259
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 10: I feel like for him to be prepared for the

2260
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 10: moment because he's been in that moment for so many years.

2261
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 10: And you can tell that he's NFL MVP, super Bowl Champion,

2262
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 10: super Bowl MVP just by the way he carries himself,

2263
01:58:54,760 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 10: like throughout the locker room and just keep in his

2264
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 10: body in check and keeping it healthy. And there's the

2265
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 10: way he carries himself is really impressive. And you know,

2266
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 10: he is a really personable guy and he likes to

2267
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 10: chat it up and just kind of talk about anything.

2268
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 10: And that's kind of what's been cool for me is

2269
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 10: you know, not that I watched a lot in NFL football,

2270
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 10: but I knew who Joe Flacco was growing up. So

2271
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 10: it's really cool just to put like a human perspective

2272
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 10: on Joe Flacco and not just like the football version.

2273
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 3: How old were you in twenty twelve?

2274
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 10: I was twelve depending on the year thirteen.

2275
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 3: So that's when he won the Super Bowl. You're a

2276
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 3: twelve year old kid when he was leading the Ravens

2277
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl title. Yeah, amazing, yep, Now your teammates.

2278
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 10: Exactly he is.

2279
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 4: He is a kind of a one of a kind,

2280
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 4: yeah sort of guy. I mean, I hear you know

2281
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 4: a lot of players saying how much of an impact

2282
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 4: he made in such a short period, It's that's tough

2283
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 4: to do. Yeah, but joined the team, you know, after

2284
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 4: you know, an x period of time. Everybody's going from together.

2285
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 4: Different guys have different friends, different yonds, and for him

2286
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 4: to be uh, to be part of that as quickly

2287
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 4: as he has forget the football part of it just

2288
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 4: to become part of the the the organization, and a

2289
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 4: lot of it is his character, right, I mean he's

2290
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 4: a high character guy. That's uh uh Yeah, He's all

2291
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 4: about success.

2292
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 10: He's driven for sure, and I think he's a great

2293
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 10: locker room guy. And I feel like coming into this

2294
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 10: organization and this team, I feel like he probably had

2295
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 10: to feel pretty good with with five and one r

2296
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 10: out there running outs for him, no doubt, he's probably

2297
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 10: all I gotta do is back and just throw it

2298
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 10: up and they're gonna come down with it.

2299
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely works.

2300
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 10: So but no, he's been a great addition, uh, great

2301
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 10: guy to having the locker room, great guy to have

2302
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 10: on the field obviously, and I feel like he's going

2303
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 10: to continue to lead this team, uh where we need

2304
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 10: to go.

2305
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 3: All right, We're going to take our final time out

2306
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 3: when we come back we will play America's favorite game show,

2307
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 3: Know Your School. Five questions about the University of Florida

2308
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 3: for former Gator Evan McPherson. This is the Bengals pep

2309
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 3: Rally Show Live from the on the Rhine Eatery on

2310
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty. Final segment of the Bengals pep Rally Show,

2311
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 3: presented by Just Fair Chicken, Live from the on the

2312
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. We are getting ready

2313
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 3: for the Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers coming up on Sunday

2314
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 3: at one o'clock at Akroshuer Stadium. Our special guest today

2315
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 3: and we really appreciate him joining us. He does it

2316
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 3: every year, Bengals kicker Evan McPherson. We've reached the final

2317
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 3: segment of the show, and that means it is time

2318
02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 3: for America's favorite game show. We call it No Your School.

2319
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've done this with you before, so I

2320
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 3: hope I came up with different questions. We've got five

2321
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 3: questions about the University of Florida for a former Gator,

2322
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 3: Money Matt, Are you ready need to get at least

2323
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 3: three rights?

2324
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 10: All right?

2325
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 3: To be declared a winner? Let's start easy. Florida has

2326
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 3: had three Heisman Trophy winners, the most recent in two

2327
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, named the Gator lefty who won the

2328
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 3: Heisman that year.

2329
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 10: That's tough, Tim Tebow.

2330
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 3: Tim Tebow is correct?

2331
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 10: Can I name the other two?

2332
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Sure? Go ahead?

2333
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 10: I mean Steve Spurrier, correct, Steve Superior, Danny Warfore, you.

2334
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 3: Are right here we go now he's showing off. Bus

2335
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 3: questions are gonna have to be harder next time. And

2336
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:55,839
Speaker 3: by the way, I heard audience participation. No, I frown

2337
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 3: at audience participation. Question number two.

2338
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 10: I can't hear who da is here?

2339
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 3: So this is a good question. Florida has two alligator

2340
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 3: mascow Albert and alberta.

2341
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 2: Ooohh boy, how about that boom?

2342
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 4: How about that boom?

2343
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 3: He's two for two. The most famous building on campus,

2344
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh I think we is one hundred and fifty seven

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Speaker 3: feet tall and features sixty one bells. What is the name?

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Speaker 10: This was a question last time and I didn't know it,

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Speaker 10: and I still don't know it.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember it. It's going to keep being the

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Speaker 3: question until you get this right. Century Tower, Centry Tower,

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Speaker 3: Cree Tower. Two questions left you need to get at

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Speaker 3: least win, right, all right, to be a winner. You're

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Speaker 3: Alma Mater won the NCAA basketball championship last year. Okay,

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Speaker 3: four players averaged ten or more points scoring. Boy, can

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Speaker 3: you name one?

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Speaker 10: I know one was like number one.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: That was probably Walter Clayton. It was really good. Elijah Martin,

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Speaker 3: not gonna Will Richard and Alex Condon.

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Speaker 10: I didn't watch one game.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 10: I watched the National championship game, and then I threw

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Speaker 10: up a post like I watched every game. After they won, they.

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Speaker 3: Tried to claim was the biggest by that I've done worse.

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Speaker 3: All Right, It all comes down to this question. Dave

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Speaker 3: Lapham is going to know the answer to this question.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if you do name the former Gator played

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Speaker 3: with Dave Lapham in Super Bowl sixteen who can now

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Speaker 3: be heard every week on Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's a neighbor of mine, so I didn't know. No,

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Speaker 10: he's not. He's not actually my neighbor. We just live

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Speaker 10: in the same like city because his wife drug him

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Speaker 10: there Thomas. Yep, she's born and raised Fort Thomas. And

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Speaker 10: she said, we're not leaving. And the answer is Chris Collins.

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Speaker 3: Chris Collin correct number.

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Speaker 10: Eight, Chris, his wife and few kids. They were at

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Speaker 10: the we go to Tower Park a lot and him

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Speaker 10: and his grandkids were there one day when we were

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Speaker 10: and it was cool to see him, you know, just

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Speaker 10: being a granddad and a father, and he was running

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Speaker 10: around going down slides, swinging. Uh So it's just fun

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Speaker 10: to see him out about like that. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 10: great dude.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember a linebacker that played at Florida by

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Speaker 4: the name of Glenn Cameron. Do you remember that name?

2385
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 4: He was a first round pick of the Bengals back

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Speaker 4: in the late seventies. We were good friends and his

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Speaker 4: wife Liz and my wife Limb good buddies. And we

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Speaker 4: started a T shirt company called Pro t Shirts that

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Speaker 4: was around for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Your a T shirt guy, left shirt man.

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Speaker 4: We had this one. It was like the excellon Tiger

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02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 4: and it was yipe stripes we put on there and

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Speaker 4: then every player signed it. And it was like, right

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Speaker 4: after the Super Bowl sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Do you make some bank?

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Speaker 4: Got the kids from school?

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 3: The table. I didn't realize you were the entrepreneur of

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Speaker 3: this group. Suppressed my man cranking out T shirts back

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Speaker 3: in the day. All right, You're heading to Pittsburgh Sunday

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Speaker 3: one o'clock game against the Steelers. Yep, that's notoriously a

2402
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Speaker 3: tough place to kick, between the wind and the field.

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02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,880
Speaker 3: Pitt plays Notre Dame there tomorrow, so the field's going

2404
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Speaker 3: to get chewed up, of course. Is it the toughest

2405
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Speaker 3: place to kick?

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Speaker 10: Toughest, Uh, it's up there, up there, up there. I've

2407
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Speaker 10: always struggled in Cleveland for whatever reason. Uh, you know,

2408
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 10: put a complete game together this past year, which felt good.

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Speaker 10: So we'll put the struggles behind us in Cleveland. And

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Speaker 10: I feel like, for the most part, I've always had

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Speaker 10: pretty good games in Pittsburgh. The wind hasn't ever been

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Speaker 10: really too crazy there. I remember my rookie year, I

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Speaker 10: got a little breezy and the field was kind of

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Speaker 10: chewed up. But the other two times we played at nine,

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Speaker 10: we're kind of midday, and I think they resided like

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Speaker 10: right before we came. So grass was great when wasn't

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Speaker 10: too bad as it has been freezing when I've played there.

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Speaker 10: But you know, I've put it. I've put together a

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Speaker 10: few good games in Pittsburgh, so I've always enjoyed it.

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Speaker 10: It's a fun stadium, fun environment to play in. Crowd

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Speaker 10: really gets into it and the towels waving and whatnot.

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Speaker 10: They got good traditions there, So I always enjoy going

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Speaker 10: to UH.

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Speaker 3: To Pittsburgh Renegade at some point in the second half

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Speaker 3: get the defense.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I always love a good tradition and

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Speaker 10: just getting to watch other teams kind of traditions and

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Speaker 10: like the Vikings had a really cool like intro video

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Speaker 10: that I get to watch, and like Pittsburgh with the

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Speaker 10: the Renegade. It's you know, I'm just big on like traditions,

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Speaker 10: and I won't not enjoy somebody's traditions just because I'm

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Speaker 10: playing against them. You know, I'm gonna sit there, I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna be like, oh, it's cool, let's just go beat

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Speaker 10: them and send everybody home upset.

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Speaker 3: Now, see, you're more mature than I am. Because I

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02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 3: can't like anything about the Pittsburgh Steelers, I can't blame you.

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Speaker 3: I always refer to them as the dreaded, hated, but

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02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 3: grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steeling. So like the fact that you

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Speaker 3: can enjoy their traditions even as you try to beat them.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's really cool something.

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Speaker 4: If a kicker is struggling in the league, do the

2442
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Speaker 4: is it a big fraternity to the other kickers kind

2443
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Speaker 4: of everybody take somebody to reach out to them and say, hey,

2444
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 4: look we're thinking about you. We noticed it. You might

2445
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Speaker 4: be doing this, or you might want to try this.

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Speaker 4: You guys do any of that.

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 10: Not really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 10: I feel like if anybody is struggling or anybody has

2451
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 10: any questions, they'll reach out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But I will say, if I have a really close

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02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 10: friend that I'm like in speaking terms with like regularly, yeah,

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02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 10: I'll reach out to him, see how he's feeling, what

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02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 10: what he's thinking about, and kind of what's going through

2457
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 10: his head. So I feel like in certain instances, yeah,

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Speaker 10: that would be the case.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we are just about out of time. A

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Speaker 3: few thank yous are in order. Thank you to our engineer,

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Speaker 3: Mike Mills pipe man came down early and set everything

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Speaker 3: up even though he didn't know the show started two

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Speaker 3: thirty today, so we appreciate how early Mike comes. Thanks

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02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 3: to Drew Wester Heidi back in the studio. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: Nicky Growl who helped us out with the autographs today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to the manager here Nick. Thanks to George,

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Speaker 3: you're bringing us food. Most of all, thank you to

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Speaker 3: our special guest, Evan mcphersource and thank you to the

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Speaker 3: Bengals fans who came out to be part of the show.

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Speaker 3: If you bear listening too, the Bengals pep Rally Show

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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