1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: This is America's truck and Network with Kevin Gordon, one. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Of the more Thanks for tuning in on this Wednesday morning. 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: You know, last week we started seeing. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Well, in the last couple of weeks, we've been seeing 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, the news in review looking back in the past, 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: some of the top stories and where things were in 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: terms of what they had expected at the beginning of 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: the year, where they were versus the end of the year. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Now this week we're starting to see stuff about well, 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: what is twenty twenty six going to bring? And you know, 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: based on their estimates for last year, I'm not so 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: sure that we can really depend on those. But what 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: you can depend on is at N because we have 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: been right more often than they have been right. But 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: let's just go. Let's play the game and see what 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: they have to say. Market uncertainty to follow trucking into 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Now, Eric Starks, the chairman of FTR 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Transportation Intelligence, he's having his predictions in here. One of 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: the things kind of skipped to the chase here. I 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: think the best case scenario would be a flat market 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 2: into quarter one, but you could see noticeable softening quarter 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: one into quarter two if we start seeing substantial layoffs 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: and consumers pulling away. Well, we haven't seen any examples 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: of that so far. We haven't seen any hint of 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: that happening based on what we've seen as far as 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: retail sales, what we saw as far as gross domestic 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: product in the third quarter, and we're also anticipating now 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: what we're going to be seeing the gross domestic product 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter coming up here in the next 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: few days. Complicating outlooks starts note is a lack of 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: capacity of certainty on how long stable environment would need 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: to be in place to instill calm in the marketplace, 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: not going to require any time at all. Once they're 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: are standard, once the playing field is known, and once 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: people know what's going on, it will go pretty rapidly, 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: because let's not forget the fact that we are rugged individualists, 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: not the crazy crap that we're getting out of Mondani 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: in New York that we want to have collectivism and 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: all that. 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: It's a story for another day. 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: He suspects business will remain cautious on investing, especially when 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: it comes to equipment and technology. Yeah, centering around interest rates, 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: which we should see a break in that come May 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: when the new FED chairman is installed, and hopefully this 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: guy will be a supply side economist and get the 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: economy moving with lower interest rates. And I may want 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: to interject here that our interest rates are twice what 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: they are in other developed countries. So if we get 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: those down, we'll see an economic boom and businesses expanding, 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: employees getting hired, and so on. This could contribute to 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: tough for operation conditions in the first part of next year, 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: according to him. Chris Rogers, head of supply chain research 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: at S and P Global Market Intelligence, let me see 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: the story of terrorists. 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: Is over, he says. 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: We still have to have a decision from the Supreme 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: Court about the International Emergency Economic Powers Act tariffs that 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: President had implemented, whether they're legal. They're going to make 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: that determination, and if they're not, what will replace them. 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of national security tariff reviews still 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: going on, covering electronics, medical supplies, machinery, and critical minerals. 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: I will be very disappointed with the Supreme Court if 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: they're stupid enough to rule against the Trump administration, because 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: by all accounts, these terroifts have been good. They've been 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: a good generator for the American public plus, it levels 66 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: the playing field, it makes it more fair trade instead 67 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: of just free trade. 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: And they ought to understand. 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: And you know, I got to tell you, you know, 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: when it comes down to law and it comes down 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: to interpretations. I have seen on a personal basis and 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: with clients that I've had in the past, that you 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: can have all the facts on your side, and you 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: can even have the law on your side, but when 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: it comes to certain decisions, certain people, like Kentucky Supreme 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Court several years ago, took a look at a situation 77 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: that was clearly being violated by a non governmental. 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Entity that was collecting taxes. 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: But they looked at it from the standpoint that, well, 80 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: gee whiz, if they've got to go back and refund 81 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: and do that and these other not only that particular county, 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: but like eighty eight other counties in Kentucky, that would 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: be a headache and a nightmare. So they just took 84 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: a pass on it and said well, and their determination 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: was that you know, everybody knew based on. 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: What the law was, that they were wrong. 87 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: But the comment from the Supreme Court was, well, the 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Institution did the good faith effort in following the law 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: and I'm telling you. From that point on, I kept saying, 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, I'll tell you what next time. I you know, 91 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: if I ever pull up to a stop sign and 92 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: I rolled through it and I get pulled over, I'm 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: going to tell the cop. Hey, look, I made a 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: good faith effort to stop there. Oh, I made a 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: good faith effort to keep my speed not overspeeding. And 96 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, with that kind of method, maybe I could 97 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: get by with it now. But this is what their 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: ruling actually said, that they had made a good faith effort. So, 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, politics aside and whatever, what's good for the country. 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: These tariffs have been good for the country. If the 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: Supreme Court knows what's best, they will go ahead and 102 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: side with the Trump administration. Just one man's opinion there, 103 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: and of course, you know I have an opinion. I'm 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: not afraid to use it. SMP Global in twenty twenty 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: six outlook side of these legal challenges surrounding Trump's use 106 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: of the i EPA, which again is International Emergency Academic 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Powers Act in settlling terraiffs, specifically as it relates to 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: implementation of Section two thirty two duties. This Section two 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: thirty two provisions of the Trade Expansion Act empowers the 110 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: use of levies to address imports that are deemed a 111 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: threat to national security. Trump has used this rule as 112 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: the basis for most of the tariffs, and I think 113 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: he's dead on as far as that's concerned, but the 114 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: legal interpretation has been challenged. 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: With the ongoing cases. 116 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Working their way through the courts, legal determinations are expected 117 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: to be finalized in early twenty twenty six. Trade policy 118 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with terriffs also expected to 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: remain in flux as twenty twenty six arrives, according to Rogers, 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: and of course that is Chris Rogers, head of supply 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: chain research at S and P Global Market Intelligence. He's saying, 122 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: the big one is that we're watching, obviously, is to 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: negotiate renegotiation in the United States Mexico Canada agreement. He said, 124 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: that's going to be going on throughout next year and 125 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: should be completed ahead of the US midterm elections. But 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take that for granted, and then we have 127 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: the deals being signed elsewhere in the world. Talks about 128 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: in this article rule crackdown, The Federal Motor Carrier Safety 129 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: Administration stepped up enforcement of English language proficiency for truck 130 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: drivers and titaned scrutiny on issuance of non domiciud commercial 131 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: driver license threatens long term removal of capacity from the market. 132 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: While safety stands at the forefront of the effort. The 133 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: net result could be smaller driver pool that puts upward 134 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: pressure on freight rates. This according to Jason Jason Seedel, 135 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: managing director of the investment banking firm TD Cowen. Now, 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: the purpose of that of cracking down on the non 137 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: domiciout English proficiency and these CDL mills and getting rid 138 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: of incompetent drivers and drivers that don't have the skill 139 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: is a safety issue and keeping insurance rates low, keeping 140 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: the American public safe and cause less deaths on the highway. 141 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: And if it pulls out excess capacity and freight rates 142 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: start going up a little bit so that these companies 143 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: can make some money and get things back on a 144 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: level playing field, that will be good for the economy 145 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: as well. So they're kind of taking this approach as 146 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: though it's going to tighten scrutiny and capacity will be 147 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: taken out of the market. Well, do you want over 148 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: capacity or you want safety? 149 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: You know? 150 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: I just people keep taking out the human element in 151 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: terms of these decisions and what is possibly going to 152 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: cause havoc around the war, around the trucking industry, and 153 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: as far as safety on the highway in terms of 154 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: historic norms. Title notes that the that over the road 155 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: trucking demand tends to be softer following the holiday season. 156 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: Of course, we'll see how things pick up in the spring. 157 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: US Bank Corporate Payment Systems Jeff Pate, manager of Transportation 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: US Corporate Payment Systems, says fleets that embrace artificial intelligence 159 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: and ring efficiencies should do a little bit better. And 160 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: I think that is important as well. When you implement 161 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: certain areas of artificial intelligence and get those get more 162 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: efficiencies within the trucking industry, that will pay off. Also, 163 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: they talk about possible industry cooperation. Let's see there is 164 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: much greater emphasis on collaboration and transparency on both sides, 165 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: leveraging data and technology to make smarter, faster decisions instead 166 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: of focusing solely on price. So a lot of estimates 167 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: going into twenty twenty six and coming up we're going 168 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: to be talking to in relating to this. As far 169 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: as the CDLs and illegal aliens obtaining CDO license, we're 170 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: going to be speaking with Mike Kucharski, co owner and 171 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: vice president of JKC Trucking, and then I will get 172 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: into a little bit of our predictions from ATN. I'm 173 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon, America's Trucking Network seven hundred WLW a's America's 174 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: Trucking Network. My guest is Mike Kucharski. He is co 175 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: owner and vice president of JKC Trucking, has over thirty 176 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: years experienced. JKC Trucking is the largest refrigerated trucking company 177 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: based out of Chicago, Illinois. 178 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: Welcome to the program, Mike. 179 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: Nam program again, thank you. 180 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: Now, as if a three year freight recession, increasing cargo theft, 181 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: cyber attacks pushed to during the prior administration to convert 182 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: the EVS weren't enough, or some of the other EPA 183 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: restrictions that were there, if that weren't enough, Now we 184 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: have to deal with illegal aliens obtaining CDLs and in 185 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: many cases unable to demonstrate English language proficiency. So welcome 186 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: to the trucking industry in twenty twenty six. 187 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: Yes it is. You know what's what's happening out there is? 188 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 4: How is this number one? The trucking industries is overregulated, 189 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: a very hard industry. But you know what's happening out 190 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: there with. 191 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: These non domicile drivers and illegal driving these trucks, you know, 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: is eye opening and concerning because this is a is 193 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 5: a serious safety crisis on American roads and pretending. 194 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: It isn't happening. No longer is that option. 195 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: Because the trucking industry runs on trust from a from 196 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 5: a safety standpoint, this kind of enforcement, you know, matters, you. 197 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: Know, thinking about it. 198 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: Every every morning we put our kids on the school buses, 199 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: millions of commuters had to work in their cars, millions 200 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: of families will be traveling up for the holidays. 201 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: They and they need they need trust. 202 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: And the professional is driving eight thousand pound trucks around 203 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 5: them that they can read roadsigns or safety commands and 204 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: reacting to emergency commercial This. 205 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: Isn't about you know who someone is or where someone 206 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 4: is from. 207 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 5: It's about whether they're qualified safety, safety operating heavy equipment. 208 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: On public grows exactly. And the question, well, actually it's 209 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: this kind of started. I guess over the last couple 210 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: of years they were talking about I guess at some 211 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: of these trucking shows talking about the English language proficiency. 212 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: That was was a reason for out of service being 213 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: put out of service, but wasn't enforced during the latter 214 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: years of the Obama administration. But at that time there 215 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: wasn't this invasion from the southern border, so some of 216 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: these were a lot, I guess more, fewer and far between. 217 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: But now once we have this invasion from the southern 218 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: border under the last administration, this has exploded. And then 219 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: you have states where like California and I think you're 220 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: in Illinois, that they can actually gain the system, find 221 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: somebody that will certify them, sign the documents falsely, and 222 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: issue a driver's license. It just makes things a whole 223 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: lot worse. 224 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: It does. 225 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 6: It does, And I'm glad you brought the English proficient 226 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 6: language because back in the nineteen seventy two is when 227 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 6: they made the law saying that English proficiency costruck drivers 228 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 6: should English's language. 229 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: You must speak English. 230 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: That was in the seventies, right, And then twenty sixteen 231 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: a Bottle orginistation change that role a little bit saying, look, 232 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 5: you don't have to be proficient in English, but you 233 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: could use a device like a Google Translate to to 234 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: communicate with law enforcement and everybody else. 235 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: And that sounded great. 236 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 5: But what they what they did is they took that 237 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: and they twisted it completely different way. And the drivers 238 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: that are out there right now speak very little English. 239 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: And if you want of these videos, there's drivers out there, 240 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: truck divers making videos of all other truck drivers talking drivers, 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: troopers talking to these drivers, and they speak very little English. 242 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: And if they do speak English, there's they don't understand 243 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: a word or they're giving the completely wrong answer. Ian 244 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 5: this is you know, this is alarming because you know truckers. 245 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: Truckers are the. 246 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: Heartbeat of the American economy and the supply chain. You know, 247 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: a truckers only move at least only seventy percent of 248 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 5: all the goods nationwide. You know, because of the scale 249 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 5: and responsibility trucking, his formula recognized as a critical infrastructure 250 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: to something America relies on every day. 251 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, and we saw the example this past summer. We 252 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: saw that hard genders sing who did that illegal you 253 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: turned down in Florida, and then another guy by the 254 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: name of Josh and pret saying no, I don't think 255 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: they're related, but had that crash he was under the 256 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: influence and rear ended a bunch of cars out in 257 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: California and when these fiery crashes happen, and then of 258 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: course it gets people's attention. But going back to what 259 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: was it in April that President Trump did the executive 260 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: order demanding that English language proficiency be there and that 261 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: the CDL licensing process be regulated. Sean Duffy then issued 262 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: a proclamation that this was going to be enforced, and 263 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: then it was supposed to go into effect or whatever 264 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: in June. This guy gets pulled over in July in 265 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: New Mexico. They did the English language proficiency, let him go, 266 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: he didn't pass, and then a month later, in less 267 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: than a couple of weeks later, causes this accident down 268 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: in Florida. So this is something that the Trump administration 269 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: has been working on, but there needs to be some 270 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: cooperation with the individual states and possibly some legislation from 271 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Congressman and senators to put some teeth to some of 272 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: these laws. 273 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: Correct, correct, and the whole main the goal of this 274 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: is is two things. Number One, safety for all the 275 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: commuters on the road are family. 276 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: Members, mothers, fathers, daughters that you know children. 277 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: And two, protecting American jobs and ensuring the integrity of 278 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: our workforce is absolutely centre. Look, my primary concern is 279 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: always going to be who's behind the wheel. Example, law 280 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: abiding truckers pay for training, insurance, and compliance, and when 281 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: others cut corners, it undercuts the trucking and undercuts the 282 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: truckers doing the right thing every day. 283 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: You know, if you look up this. 284 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 5: Year, about twenty thousand trucking companies or studior last year 285 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: have gone out of business. You know, these truckers are 286 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: killing the American dream and truckers. You know, for for 287 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: small business, for small trucking companies like mine, Enforcing enforcement, 288 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: keeps things honest and fair and protecting the jobs of 289 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: law abiding citizens. 290 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: Well, American jobs first. 291 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: Basically levels the playing field, so everybody's playing by the 292 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: same rules. My guess is Mike Kucharski. He is co 293 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: owner and vice president of JKC Trucking. So I guess 294 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: the problem I have is trying to figure out how 295 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: in the heck a company would hire somebody who doesn't 296 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: have the qualifications. That's going to shoot up your insurance rates, 297 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: that's going to put the public at risk. How do 298 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: you sleep at night? How do you go through this 299 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: and know that you're actually with a ticking time bomb 300 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: out there, and then when this happens, it gives a 301 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: bad reputation to all truckers. You know, used to be 302 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: in the dad and my wife talks about this a 303 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: lot when we're out driving. She said, you know, it 304 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: used to be that the best drivers out on the 305 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: road were the truck drivers. And once in a while 306 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: you see somebody that really doesn't seem to be that 307 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: good of a truck driver, but that ruins it for 308 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: the thirty or so out there that. 309 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 5: Are correct, correct, correct, you know, I mean, I mean, 310 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: it's crazy what's happened in this country. Let me let 311 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 5: me explain to you what's happening and how these people 312 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 5: are maybe paying a picture of how these people are 313 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: getting licenses. 314 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: You know, these people are coming to. 315 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 5: Stays like California, where they've set up these trucking companies, 316 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: well truck driving schools that they'll pay to go to 317 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: this school. This school will quickly push them through, and 318 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: they're getting grants from the government to obviously, uh train 319 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: these drivers usually and then when these drivers get a license, 320 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 5: they're brought to a trucking company or a truck lease 321 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 5: program where they take these drivers and they say, look, 322 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: we're gonna lease to a truck, a trailer. 323 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: H you're gonna work for us, You're. 324 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 5: Gonna we're gonna deduct the payments every month from from 325 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 5: your paycheck. And on top of that, they say, look, 326 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: I'm giving you a truck and a job. 327 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna give you loads to two haul. 328 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 5: And these are like, well, these guys are like, this 329 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: is great, this is the full package. Let you know 330 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 5: where do I sign? And these guys all ten nine 331 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: ten ninety nine. Because truckers should be W two's unless 332 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: you are independent driver, so they put them in an 333 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 5: independent class, which. 334 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 4: Is, you know, rooting for independent drivers. 335 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 5: In my opinion, they're getting these jobs, getting your truck 336 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 5: and put on the road with very little experience. And 337 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: on top of that, these companies are also selling them insurance. 338 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: And shame on the insurance companies for you know, covering 339 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 5: these guys, because for example, if I are a driver, 340 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 5: he needs to have two years of experience. These guys 341 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: have no experience. Obviously they have to I assume, you know, 342 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: I mean they're looking the other way and then giving 343 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 5: them licenses. 344 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: You know, So there's. 345 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: Insurance, and the insurance area is something to talk about, 346 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: and we need to take a quick break here and 347 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll pick that up on the 348 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: other side of the break. Speaking with Mike Keacharski, co 349 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: owner and vice president of JKC Trucking, I'm Kevin Gordon, 350 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: America's truck in Network seven hundred w L. 351 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: We stayed in the rest of the country in the 352 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: Tri State O but I'm mostly claudy. They'll go down 353 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: to forty partly sunny Wednesday, a high of fifty three. Thursday, 354 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: mostly claudy with a slight chance of afternoon rain. Highs 355 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: in the lower sixties. Rain likely in the morning Friday. 356 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Otherwise claudi hies in the mid sixties Nationally through Thursday. 357 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Heavy mountain snow expected in the Cascades as well as 358 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: parts of the interior West in the Northeast State, which 359 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: are storm tonight bringing snow, sleet and freezing rain. Meanwhile, 360 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: well above average temperature scene from the Great Plains of 361 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: the Appalachians through Thursday. 362 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: This is America struck In Network seven hundred WLW. I'm 363 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon. Continuing our conversation with Mike Kacharski. He is 364 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: co owner and vice president of JKC Trucking, Before the break, 365 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: we talked about the insurance angle of this, where you 366 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: talked about how these drivers who are ill equipped, ill trained, 367 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: got some sort of I guess a pass or paid 368 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 2: off the licensing bureaus and motor vehicles to get the license, 369 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: go to these companies, get hired to get a lease, 370 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: option to buy truck or at least i'm a truck, 371 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: and then provide the insurance for them. But the insurance 372 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: companies themselves are probably well, aren't less than reputable, and 373 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: they will have a bunch of policies out there like this, 374 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: and if one of them, you know, gets in a 375 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: major accident, then they just you know, go file bankruptcy 376 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: and go on from there. 377 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: Did I have that correct? 378 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: Correct? Correct? Yeah? So there's there's four people to blame. 379 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 5: Number one is that the driver getting the license because 380 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 5: he knows that he did not get enough training, got 381 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 5: pushed through to get a license too. 382 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: I blame whoever gives them the license, whoever part. 383 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 5: Of the DMV, like especially in California where they had 384 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: the giving seventeen thousand licensed to trug evers. 385 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: That had expired work V Size three to blame is 386 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: the insurance company. 387 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 5: How you mean How could these insurance companies hire these 388 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: guys when they knew they have zero experience? And for 389 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 5: I blame the people that are giving them them the freight. 390 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: The shippers are giving them the freight that they're not 391 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: checking to because they're liable if they get an accent, 392 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: I mean they're they're partially liable to give to give 393 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: these drivers inexperience, brand new drivers freight. 394 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: I mean, we're living in a crazy world. 395 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned your drivers. You don't hire people that 396 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: have at least two years worth of experience. Now that 397 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: could be well, of course, you talk about somebody who 398 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: comes out of school, a rifidal school, they get the 399 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: CDO license, then they have to basically partner with another 400 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: person to where they shadow them or train them on 401 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: the road for a period of time before they let 402 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: them loose. Describe that process and you know how quickly 403 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: is somebody capable of being out on the road or 404 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess there's two pronged question here. You've 405 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: got in state deliveries or you have interstate deliveries, and 406 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: of course with interstate, then you go into other areas 407 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: with different climates, different temperatures, cold, hot, snow, whatever within 408 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: the individual state. It's a little different than being cross country. 409 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: Correct. Just to give me an idea. 410 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 5: So my insurance, my liability insurance company says I cannot 411 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 5: hire nobody. 412 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: With less than two years driving experience. The insurance companies 413 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: you know, say that, look, you need two years. 414 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 5: They believe that's enough for them. 415 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: For some drivers. 416 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 5: Yes, I believe in my opinion, you know, it takes 417 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 5: two three years to be a well run of drivers. 418 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 5: But let me let me give you a let me 419 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: paint a picture. Let's say you and I go truck 420 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 5: driving school. We'll be in truck driving school two three months, 421 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 5: we'll graduate, we'll get our medical card, and then we 422 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: need to find a trucking company that will train us. 423 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: Further to get this experience, because you mean, all we did. 424 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: Is passive drivery TSK. We know the very bare essentials. 425 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: Now need to get the experience and truck other trucking companies. 426 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: For example, we have a truck driving program that we 427 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: ran for Native American Indians. 428 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: They would get they would go to truck driving school, 429 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: and they. 430 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 5: Would come to our shop and we would give them 431 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: a local job for three months at least ninety days, 432 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 5: sometimes one hundred and twenty days of these they would 433 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: have to they would go with another driver training driver 434 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: and they would do a lot of local deliveries and 435 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: pickups so they could get used to accustom, you know, 436 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: traveling through busy cities, the paperwork. After that, if they 437 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: passed the local they get used to that. 438 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: When we put. 439 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: Them on uh you know, regional runs with with with 440 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: a driver trainer, which is overnight. 441 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: They'll go to like let's say we're out. 442 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: Of Illinois, they'll run to Michigan, Detroit and the back 443 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: to get more experience under that out that would be 444 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 5: another to three months to do that. And after that 445 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 5: we put them on long distance with the tr trainer 446 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: and after they have a good grasp of that for 447 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: fwoture months, So that that whole process takes about a 448 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: whole year. Right, I'm driving with a trainer, and then 449 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 5: when they're good enough, we either let them drive you know, 450 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: uh locally not locally, well, they could do local, they 451 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 5: could do overnight regional, or or we start sending long 452 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 5: distance but short long distances so they could get that 453 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: under their belt. It takes a long time because you know, 454 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: truck driving is it's not like jumping your car, You're 455 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 5: you're you're traveling through multiple states, you're traveling through elevation, 456 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: you're running through white out storms, black guys in the summertime, 457 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 5: extreme heat. It's it's a very very complicated process. It's 458 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 5: not it's not like you know, running into the grocery 459 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: store and back. It's you had There's a lot to learn, 460 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: and even after three years of experience, I mean, I 461 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 5: feel tru numbers are still always learning because you know, 462 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: you things are having there on the road all the time. 463 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: It's a lifestyle and you have it too, some of 464 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 5: a lifestyle and you can't do it in two three months. 465 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: We're speaking with Mike Kocharski. He is co owner and 466 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: vice president of jk C Trucking. So I guess we 467 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: move into the legislative phase here because there's been a 468 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: number of bills that have been put out there. One 469 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: that I've seen, I've read several different bills, but one 470 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: that kind of peaud my interest was kind of cleverly 471 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: named No CDLs for Illegals Act. This is done by 472 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: a representative, Jeff Van Drew from New Jersey. 473 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: Of all places. 474 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Of course, he's a Republican in this What type of 475 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: things do you want to would you want to see 476 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: in a bill? 477 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: Is there a bill out there that you like? 478 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: Is there something that you're in support of, because obviously 479 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: something needs to be done to rain this system in No. 480 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so right now we are what's happening with the 481 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: Department Transportation and Sean Duffy, he's I mean the ability 482 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: to speak of this hrd A sixty three OCLS for 483 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: Legals Act. That is what they're redoing is recmenting what 484 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: ARI was there. 485 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: They're saying, look, if you come to this country and. 486 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 5: You don't have a Social Security number, you cannot get 487 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 5: a CDL. You need to be you need to have 488 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 5: a residence and you have to domicile at least a 489 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 5: Green card to get a CDL. 490 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: This was always the law until recently, and I don't 491 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: know what happened. 492 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 5: And what they're doing is they want to do this federally, 493 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: which is great. And then on top of that, other 494 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: states are taking other steps. You know, Arkansas last year 495 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: before all this even surfaced, February of twenty twenty four 496 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: said look, anybody comes in a state of Arkansas is 497 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: going to be tested for English proficiency. They made them 498 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: read some sentences. They would have to write some stuff 499 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 5: and describe what they did when they would come to 500 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 5: the point of venture of Arkansas. 501 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: Texas is taking the same stand. Last night, I was 502 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: reading the Tennessee saying that if a driver comes. 503 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: In that has non domicile license will be put out 504 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 5: of service, arrested, and it might face up to jail 505 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: time in Tennessee. Because we have this internal battle, a 506 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: lot of states will all states should be going, look, 507 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: we need safe drivers. 508 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: A lot of states are saying we support. 509 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 5: That these drivers should be put out of service, and 510 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: some states are fighting it. So we have this battle, 511 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: and I support anything that supports because houses we need 512 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: safe drivers. 513 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: These laws are coming out because we need safe drivers 514 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 4: on the roads you know, run. 515 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: By legitimate businesses and legitimate drivers. You know, this keeps 516 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: the American public safe. And when it keeps the American 517 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 5: public safe, we all win. 518 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: Because right now it's a wild while West exactly. 519 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things about this bill 520 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: that is kind of interesting is not only does it 521 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: penalize the driver, but then it penalizes the non compliant 522 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: states that are allowing these licenses to be issued, targeting 523 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: them with transportation, with holding transportation funds and also targeting 524 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: the trucking companies themselves, because again, the people that are 525 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: putting these dangerous vehicles out there need to be held 526 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: responsible and until somebody goes to jail, until somebody is 527 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: shut down. You know, reputable companies like JKC Trucking with 528 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: Mike Kocharski as the co owner are going to be 529 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: I guess beneficiaries of a bad reputation because of the 530 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: bad people out there driving. 531 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, what a lot of these dates are doing. 532 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 5: They're forgetting that the federal motor Carrier, Sean Duffy is 533 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 5: They're the gatekeeper. He makes the law for all of 534 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: American we should all follow it. In a lot of 535 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 5: these states are saying no, well we're gonna we're gonna 536 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: look the other way. But they're the gatekeeper regards how 537 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 5: was this. The law should be the same from New 538 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: York to California, wherever you go. You can't just pick 539 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: and shoes what because it consistency and this was set 540 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: up for the safety of the American people. And these 541 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 5: states are deciding to fight these things and look the 542 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 5: way they're twisting issues. 543 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: My favorite thing is that you got. 544 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: To wonder how much concern they have for the American 545 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: citizens and the driving public out there. Mike, we're up 546 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: against the clock here and it's been a pleasure talking 547 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: to you. We got to do this more often. I 548 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: talk to you again about this disease of bills proceed 549 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: Any final thoughts. 550 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: Here real quick. 551 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, my primary concern is always going to be 552 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: who's behind the wheel. 553 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: Law abiding truckers pay for training, insurance, and compliance. 554 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 5: One of the cuts corners that are undercuts the people 555 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 5: doing the right thing. You know, if we have safe 556 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 5: drivers on the road, run by legitimate businesses, this keeps 557 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: the American public safe and we all win. 558 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: Fantastic Again, my thanks to Mike Ktarski, co owner and 559 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: vice president of JKC Trucking. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck 560 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: in Network seven hundred WLW. 561 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 7: It happens all the time. Your neighbor's pet zebra it's lose. 562 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 7: It starts biting people and knocking over a mailboxes and 563 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 7: pooping on lawns and mounting your cement goose. Right, So 564 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 7: then you got to go in the house and you 565 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 7: got to get your zebra product again. And then you 566 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 7: stun it and it starts to come to So you 567 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 7: got to get the duct tape out and then you 568 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 7: got to wrap it in at tarp and then you 569 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 7: bring it back to your neighbor. But now you've missed 570 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 7: part of my show, the Scott Sloan Ship. 571 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 572 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 7: You can still listen to the podcast on the iHeartRadio 573 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 7: app and get it and missed and then save the 574 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 7: stun gun, duct tape and tart for the neighbor. 575 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon thanks to Mike Katarski spending time with us. 576 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: He's co owner and president vice president of JKC Trucking. 577 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: If you missed that interview or any of our previous shows, 578 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: hit up that iHeartRadio app brought to you by our 579 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: friends at Rush Truck Centers. Now, as far as predictions 580 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: from ATM, let's not forget how much ATN Kevin Gordon 581 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: on ATN was right about tariff's not leading to runaway inflation, 582 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: which everybody was predicting was going to happen. A lot 583 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: of the economists tariffs causing massive layoffs and or recession 584 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: didn't happen GDP. They predicted being at one point eight 585 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: percent to maybe two percent GDP was be too. I 586 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: predicted j GDP was going to be between four and 587 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: a half to five percent versus their one point eight 588 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: two percent. GDP in the third quarter was four point 589 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: three percent, a lot closer than their estimate, and I 590 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: still think the fourth quarter is going to come in 591 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: even better. Now that flying the ointment here is the 592 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: fact that the government shutdown. According to estimates. Now when 593 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: those numbers come in, remember that the shutdown could possibly 594 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: have caused according to the government estimates CBO and all 595 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: as of government Congressional Budget Office, could have caused a 596 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: one point five to a two point two reduction in 597 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: the GDP. So thank you Chuck Schumer, the Schumer shut 598 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: down and the Democrats who voted to keep the government 599 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: shut down and to punish the military. Because the Democrats 600 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: didn't get their way with some of their goodies and 601 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: their subsidies to people that. 602 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: Really don't well illegal aliens. 603 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: They wanted to fund all these plans to subsidize illegal 604 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: immigration in this country. And so thanks to them, GDP 605 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: will be suffering by one point five to two point 606 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: two percent. And all those people, the military, the air 607 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: traffic controllers, and many of the government workers that went 608 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: without a paycheck for forty three days, Thank you, Chuck Schumer. 609 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: So again atn was on the head of this, and 610 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: as far as inflation is concerned, I predicted that we 611 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: would be at two percent by the end of the year. 612 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to get there when the 613 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: numbers come in when we see what happened in the 614 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. However, when you take into consideration the different 615 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: contracts that have been signed between ups, railroad workers, auto workers, 616 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: all the ports on well the ports on the East 617 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: coast and the West coast, all those negotiations as far 618 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: as salary, all those contracts, as far as wages are concerned, 619 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: have affected inflation, and so that we may be off 620 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: a little bit there, but I will take a four 621 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: point five to five percent GDP over not hitting the 622 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: inflation target every day of the week. Now, referring back 623 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: to the story that we had before, we talked to 624 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: Mike Kacharski talking about what the predictions were going into 625 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and what things might look at. Again, 626 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: they're talking about, well, you know, well, the people will 627 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: the citizens, will customers, consumers, will they pull back? We 628 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: haven't seen any evidence of that in fact, when we're 629 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: seeing retail sale numbers, it's above expectations, better than expected, 630 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: and so on. And here we have another situation and 631 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about a major purchase. 632 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: Here. 633 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: Ford reports best annual US vehicle sales since twenty nineteen 634 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: out of Detroit. Ford Motor on Tuesday said US vehicle 635 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: sales last year increased six percent to achieve the company's 636 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: best annual sales since twenty nineteen, in other words, pre pandemic. 637 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: The Detroit automaker reported sales to two point two million 638 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: vehicles in twenty twenty five, including a two point seven 639 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: percent uptick to more than five hundred and forty five 640 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: thousand units in the fourth quarter. In twenty nineteen, the 641 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: automaker sold two point four to two million, so they 642 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: were within about two hundred thousand vehicles of what they 643 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: sold back in twenty nineteen, so again, best sales years 644 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: since pre plandemic. Ford finished the year third largest automaker 645 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: in the US, behind Toyota, which had which was up 646 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: eight percent in sales, and domestic sales leader General Motor, 647 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: which was up five point five percent in twenty twenty five. 648 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: Ford US vehicle sales for the and Imagine what vehicle 649 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: sales would have been if we had decent interest rates. 650 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: When you look at the price of seven eight percent 651 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: for interest rates on vehicle purchases. If the Federal Reserve, 652 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: if lion Jerry Powell had gotten off his butt and 653 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: reduced those interest rates, then as far as the overnight 654 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: rate to the banks, the credit cards would have fallen 655 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 2: in place, truck loans, car loans, mortgages would have fallen 656 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: into place as well, and we would have seen more sales, 657 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: more vehicles sold in that fourth quarter. But again, Federal 658 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: Reserve holding US BACKUS vehicles for the year were largely 659 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: in line with I get this, okay. They were up 660 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: six you know, we saw Ford was up six percent, 661 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: GM was up eight percent, and General Motors was up 662 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: five point five percent. US Ford US vehicle sales in 663 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: the year were largely in line with analysts expectations, such 664 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: as those from Cox Automotive, which expects industry wide sales 665 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: to have risen by about two percent. Okay, where is 666 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: six percent close to two percent, where is five point 667 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: five percent close to two percent, where is eight percent 668 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: close to two percent? Industry analysts predicted a two percent increase, 669 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: where Ford had a six percent, Toyota eight percent, and 670 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: GM had an increase of five point five percent. Unbelievable, 671 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: but they're still sticking to it. Andrew Frick, president of 672 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: Ford's non fleet vehicle business. He said that the automaker 673 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: seems to be on track to offset lost production of 674 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of lucrative pickup trucks this year, including 675 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: adding another shift to a plant in Michigan. Now that's 676 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: a result of fourth quarter. Ford fourth quarter performance came 677 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: in continues to battle production troubles because they did have 678 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: some plant fires, two separate fires at a New York 679 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: plant and a key aluminum supplier Novellas F series sales, 680 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: including a popular F one point fifty. We're up eight 681 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 2: point three percent in twenty twenty five, but off three 682 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: point three percent during the fourth quarter. Like many automakers 683 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: for they're getting away from the electric vehicles that only 684 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: accounts for about fourteen percent of their sales. Eighty six 685 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: percent of Ford's sales are in the internal combustion engines. 686 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: One of the areas that's kind of creeping up and 687 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: looks to see some promise is hybrid vehicles, which could 688 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: actually be very good. So you know, again, we're seeing 689 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: this mixed bag. We've got the so called experts saying 690 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: that there are things headwinds going into twenty twenty six. 691 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: But the evidence that we have already in hand from 692 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: what happened at the latter part of twenty twenty five 693 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 2: and showing no signs of slowing down show and points 694 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: to a good twenty twenty six as opposed to some 695 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: of these other predictions. Now, seeing what's going on even 696 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: after the capture of Nicholas Maduro over the weekend, with 697 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 2: Venezuela and the oil down there, all of a sudden, 698 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: now China isn't interested in buying Venezuelan oil, Isn't that interesting. 699 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: They're the ones that have been propping up the regime 700 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: down there, the illegitimate regime. They've been buying the oil 701 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: from them and taking it and I guess storing it 702 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: because I guess they've got deep pockets there. They're shunning 703 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: that now. What it appears is though, that people talking 704 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: about whether or not there'll be a ramp up and 705 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: whether or not how quickly the oil industry can get 706 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: back on par don't discount the ability of American companies 707 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: to go in and when they really put their mind 708 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: to it, how quickly certain things can get done. I'm 709 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: sure the Venezuelan Pea people are anxious to get out 710 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: of eighty six percent of the people there are living 711 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: in poverty. 712 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: And if the newly installed. 713 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: Vice president now president of Venezuela, they say that she 714 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: has been very cooperative and very interested in working with 715 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: these oil companies, maybe the oil companies get in there 716 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: a lot quicker and ramp up the production. At one 717 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: point they were producing up to three million barrels per 718 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: day down there, and they are now down in the 719 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of barrels per day. So again, how 720 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: quickly that can come on board, And I think that 721 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: is going to surprise a lot of people over the 722 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: coming years. So it's going to be interesting to see 723 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: how that all pans out. Well, folks, that does it 724 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: for us? We're up against clock here. Stay tuned for 725 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 2: Retie Radio atop the hour. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck 726 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: in Network seven hundred WLW