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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. We
Speaker 2: are live tonight at Champions Grill on the West side
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. The address is thirty six seventy Work Road.
Speaker 2: That is w E RK Work Road, and we're going
Speaker 2: to be here until eight o'clock tonight. We've got a
Speaker 2: very special guest joining us in one hour. He'll be
Speaker 2: with us for the final hour of the show tonight.
Speaker 2: A favorite of ours lap and a Bengals fan favorite,
Speaker 2: center Ted Carris.
Speaker 3: And understandably so. Ted Carris is a very very fine
Speaker 3: football player, high achiever. Ted Carris has worked his body
Speaker 3: to an efficient level of production. I mean, this guy
Speaker 3: hits the weight room hard. He's serious about it. He
Speaker 3: knows what he has to do to be ready to
Speaker 3: play in the National Football League against these massive nose
Speaker 3: guards that everybody's playing in the NFL now. And you know,
Speaker 3: Ted is a football savant in terms of football knowledge.
Speaker 3: He understands the game at such a high level. Quarterbacks
Speaker 3: love playing with him at the center position. Tom Brady,
Speaker 3: did you know other quarterbacks at New England did as well,
Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow with the Cincinnati Bengals felt the same way.
Speaker 3: Feels the same way about Ted Carris playing the center
Speaker 3: position for him, and he will be again when Joe
Speaker 3: Borrow returned. Joe Flacco right away realized, you know, the
Speaker 3: influence and impact that Ted Carriss has on this offensive
Speaker 3: football team for the Cincinnati Bengals. So I'm sure he'll
Speaker 3: have a lot of good things to talk about what
Speaker 3: the New York Jets is put in a few days
Speaker 3: of research and study and trying to determine tendencies and
Speaker 3: things they like to do, things they do well, things
Speaker 3: they might not do quite as well. And I think
Speaker 3: that he's probably pretty excited about the game plan that
Speaker 3: has been installed, and they were out there in the
Speaker 3: practice field today repping that getting used to that game plan,
Speaker 3: so it becomes second nature by the time kickoff occurs.
Speaker 2: The Bengals and Jets coming up this Sunday at one
Speaker 2: o'clock at pay Course Stadium, Cincinnati, looking to even its
Speaker 2: record at four and four. That, of course, is not
Speaker 2: the only thing going on at the stadium this week.
Speaker 2: At halftime of the game, the two newest members of
Speaker 2: the Bengals Ring of Honor will be inducted, Leap and
Speaker 2: Lamar Parrish. And who's the other guy that's going in?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, my dear friend and broadcast partner, Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: It's going to be awesome. That's right. Let's give that
Speaker 2: a round of applause.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And from what I've been told, all of the living
Speaker 2: members of the Ring of Honor are expected to be
Speaker 2: back in town this weekend. So we're talking Corey Dylan, Boomer,
Speaker 2: Assias and Chad Johnson, Willie Anderson, Isaac Curtis, Tim Crumrae,
Speaker 2: Anthony Munoz, Kenny Anderson. It's a who's who of Bengals
Speaker 2: history and it'll be great for you to see. So
Speaker 2: many guys that you played with, obviously, and then guys
Speaker 2: that you've watched from the broadcast boot.
Speaker 3: You're right, Dan, I mean it's it's unbelievably humbling. I
Speaker 3: think is the word this week is just man, it's
Speaker 3: like an unbelievably beautiful dream that you never want to
Speaker 3: wake up from, you know, because you're getting congratulations from
Speaker 3: former teammates, former coaches, even players that played against. Some
Speaker 3: guys have reached out and and uh, you know, fans
Speaker 3: like the fans here showing up these these shows and
Speaker 3: these events that are going to be going on all
Speaker 3: during the course of this week. Tried to get as
Speaker 3: much sleep as I could in the last couple of days,
Speaker 3: but put my head on the pillow and mine would wander,
Speaker 3: you know, it just would not doze off. It just
Speaker 3: would not shut down. It's just an active mind. So
Speaker 3: Lin's been very patient with me. That probably kept her awake,
Speaker 3: probably cost her a few hours sleep. Yeah, sorry about that, Lena.
Speaker 3: I really do appreciate and love everything you're doing. Love you.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: The thing that is going to be the most exciting
Speaker 3: for me, though, is is how the grandkids are taking
Speaker 3: it all in. You know, they're old enough where they
Speaker 3: understand what's happening. And you know, they're like fourth grade
Speaker 3: to sixth grade. And two boys, two girls, My son
Speaker 3: Dave and daughter Sarah both have a boy and a girl,
Speaker 3: Cam and Lucy and Casey and Gabby, and they are
Speaker 3: over the moon. I mean, they are so excited and
Speaker 3: what is the buddy that you're going into the Ring
Speaker 3: of Honor? So awesome. Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 2: So part of being in the Ring of Honor, of course,
Speaker 2: is the Ring of Honor itself. The names that are
Speaker 2: posted on the stadium wall. And they don't just put
Speaker 2: those up on Sunday morning. They've got to get it,
Speaker 2: you know, up there nicely and in the right position
Speaker 2: and so forth. So they're up. They'll be covered up
Speaker 2: on game day until halftime, and then they'll pull down,
Speaker 2: you know, the curtain and everybody will react accordingly. But
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor was asked about it earlier today, and here's
Speaker 2: what the Bengals head coach had to say about two
Speaker 2: new names being up on the Ring of Honor this Sunday.
Speaker 5: I love that kind of stuff, and so I think
Speaker 5: it's really cool to recognize our players to see those
Speaker 5: names up there, forever. Those those men, to those that
Speaker 5: are around to get a chance for their their kids
Speaker 5: and grandkids to see them up there. I think that's
Speaker 5: spectacular just for lapp them over here.
Speaker 4: You know, it'll be.
Speaker 5: Really neat, you know, for his whole family, Sarah, everybody
Speaker 5: to get up here and see see it up there
Speaker 5: and never goes away. It's like when you win a
Speaker 5: conference championship in college. I always tell those guys that
Speaker 5: number stays up there forever. Whatever year you wanted, that
Speaker 5: stays up there forever, and every time you go back
Speaker 5: you get to see.
Speaker 4: It and hear in the Ring of honor.
Speaker 5: It's the same for these guys that get a chance
Speaker 5: to see their names up there and never goes away.
Speaker 5: And pretty pretty special, pretty rare.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: You think of all the players that play in this
Speaker 5: league and have impacted every different city. To have your
Speaker 5: name up there is the best of the best.
Speaker 4: That's the It's not the.
Speaker 5: Point one percentage, the point one percent you know, all
Speaker 5: the guys that have come through this building, so pretty neat.
Speaker 5: Congressaive the point.
Speaker 2: Oh oh uh, I like that.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly right, Yeah, it is. It's it's a
Speaker 3: it's a small number. So uh as Zach was doing
Speaker 3: some uh some cipher in there, I guess trying to
Speaker 3: figure out a way to put it out, put it,
Speaker 3: I guess, describe it, Describe how small the number is.
Speaker 3: I do know that, you know, it's rare. It's such
Speaker 3: a such a humbling experience. Like I said earlier, I
Speaker 3: just there's no way on God's green earth that I
Speaker 3: ever expected that I would be one of the guys
Speaker 3: to go into the Ring of Honor. Now playing with
Speaker 3: Lamar Parrish, It's about time Lamar Parish is in the
Speaker 3: Ring of Honor. That dude was unbelievable. He was special.
Speaker 3: He had a nose to the football, he could diagnose.
Speaker 3: He was a good tackler. They didn't throw in his direction.
Speaker 3: Kenny Riley is Bengals all time leader in interceptions amongst
Speaker 3: the league leaders. He had a lot of opportunity. He capitalized,
Speaker 3: capitalized big time. But Lamar Parrish a lot of times,
Speaker 3: he felt like the Maytag repairman out there. Nobody was
Speaker 3: calling on him, you know, but he he is. He's special.
Speaker 3: He's a special player, a great human being, tremendous teammate.
Speaker 3: He played back in the era of you know, Bob Trumpy,
Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson, Mike Reid, defensive tackle lot of Penn State.
Speaker 3: And that's the guy that I had to learn how
Speaker 3: to block in the National Football League as a rookie.
Speaker 3: Mike Reid was instrumental in helping me advance quickly my
Speaker 3: skill set that I brought from Syracuse alma mater to
Speaker 3: the to the NFL. He was he was great. God
Speaker 3: was he quick? Turning fifty five turn and sixty pounders
Speaker 3: out of Penn State. That sixty three? It just I mean,
Speaker 3: did I close my eyes? How did he get from
Speaker 3: there to there so quickly? How did that happen? I
Speaker 3: know I didn't close my eyes. He was. He was
Speaker 3: stupendous with his short space quickness. So there's so many
Speaker 3: guys that couldn't should be in the ring and the
Speaker 3: Bengals will catch up.
Speaker 2: They'll get it done, no doubt about it. So that's
Speaker 2: coming up on Sunday at halftime home game against the
Speaker 2: New York Jets. Jets coming to town winless. They are
Speaker 2: zero to seven, the only team without a victory so
Speaker 2: far this year in the NFL. But they've got some
Speaker 2: good players up, particularly on their defensive line. We don't
Speaker 2: know who's going to start a quarterback yet, their first
Speaker 2: year head coach Aaron Glenn, leaving that up in the
Speaker 2: air at the moment. I don't know if it really
Speaker 2: matters all that much. Justin Fields and or Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 2: neither one has performed particularly well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably one of the biggest reasons,
Speaker 3: if not the biggest reason they're own seven is the
Speaker 3: quarterback play just has not been efficient and proficient enough.
Speaker 3: Haven't got enough winning play, winning snaps out of the
Speaker 3: quarterback spot. You know, inconsistent would be I guess the
Speaker 3: best description for the play at the quarterback position. And
Speaker 3: you just when your quarterback players are inconsistent, if it's
Speaker 3: tough on the entire football team. Aaron Glenn, the head coach,
Speaker 3: is a more of a defensive oriented guy, but he
Speaker 3: knows haven't played defense and haven't played in the NFL
Speaker 3: that you have to have a quarterback that is playing
Speaker 3: at a high level for your football team to operate smoothly, cleanly,
Speaker 3: and efficiently.
Speaker 2: We are at Champions Grill tonight, thirty six seventy Work
Speaker 2: Road is the address. We're on the west side of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and we're here until eight o'clock.
Speaker 4: Tonight.
Speaker 2: Ted Carriss will be our special guest from seven to eight.
Speaker 2: This looks looks like it'd be a great place to
Speaker 2: watch a sporting event. Their fat screen TVs all over
Speaker 2: the place, many taps cold beer up at the bar.
Speaker 2: See folks that are putting down some good looking food tonight. Yes,
Speaker 2: lots of seating here and a mammoth parking lot. So
Speaker 2: if there's ever a place where you're like, geez, I'd
Speaker 2: like to go watch the game there, but it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a tough to find a spot to park. Not
Speaker 2: a problem here.
Speaker 3: No issues, grilled, no no issue whatsoever. I mean I
Speaker 3: almost had the thumb a ride, you know, after I
Speaker 3: get out of my car we parked, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: there it is, it's over there. This is a great place, though,
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a Once you're in here, it's
Speaker 3: very intimate. It's a it's a perfect sports bar setting.
Speaker 3: And I mean there's like three five say about I
Speaker 3: don't know ten twelve flat screen TVs here that you
Speaker 3: can Uh, there's if you if you can't watch a game,
Speaker 3: it's your fault. They've got TV set up everywhere and everybody. Uh.
Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna be taken care of in that regard, as
Speaker 3: well as the food, adult beverage, and uh and cocktails
Speaker 3: that you described, Dan.
Speaker 2: No doubt. The Bengals are here tonight, Taylor and Grace.
Speaker 2: They're handing out us raffle tickets. We've got some things
Speaker 2: to give away. The butt Light girls are here, Carrie
Speaker 2: and Misty and Ted Terrris is going to be here
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock, so come out and join us here
Speaker 2: at Champions Grill. We're going to take a time out
Speaker 2: coming up next. As we mentioned, we don't know who
Speaker 2: the Jets starting quarterback is going to be on Sunday,
Speaker 2: but we'll try to find out. We'll head to New
Speaker 2: York and talk to Rich Samini, who covers the Jets
Speaker 2: for ESPN. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented
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Speaker 2: Ring of Honor inductee Dave Lapham with you tonight from
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Speaker 2: this Sunday at one o'clock at Pei Corpse Stadium. Time
Speaker 2: for this week's Know the Faux segment. To learn more
Speaker 2: about the New York Jets, we welcome in the greatest
Speaker 2: sports editor in the history of the Daily Orange. There
Speaker 2: Go That is the student newspaper at our alma mater,
Speaker 2: Syracuse University, a college classmate of mine who has been
Speaker 2: covering the Jets for ESPN and other outlets for many years.
Speaker 2: We welcome in Rich Somini. How you doing, my friend.
Speaker 6: Dan, good to be with you. That's quite an introduction.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: We've had some really good sports editors at the Daily Arts,
Speaker 6: so thank you for the kind I'm not worthy of
Speaker 6: that kind of praise, but thank you.
Speaker 2: Hey, I think it's totally deserved, at least for the
Speaker 2: four years that I was there. You know, I can't
Speaker 2: completely talk about Daily Orange history, but let's talk about
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. Who do you expect to start
Speaker 2: a quarterback? Maybe for a couple of minutes. Who do
Speaker 2: you expect to start a quarterback on Sunday?
Speaker 6: I think it'll be Tyrod Taylor. You know, that was
Speaker 6: the indications I was getting yesterday. I think I'm sure
Speaker 6: you guys know Eron Glenn did not announce that today.
Speaker 6: He's playing the coach game. You know, he's doing the
Speaker 6: old competitive advantage, trying to keep the Bengals in the
Speaker 6: dark as long as possible. They split the practice reps
Speaker 6: today for what I've been told, But I'd be shocked
Speaker 6: if on Sunday Tyrod Taylor is not the quarterback. I
Speaker 6: think they're trending in that direction.
Speaker 3: So is it all quarterback play? I mean, the reason
Speaker 3: that Jets have not won a football game yet and
Speaker 3: staring at an oh and seven record, has it been
Speaker 3: the quarterback play has been that ineffective? Or is it
Speaker 3: a combination of man we have not supported the quarterback either.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no position group on the football team
Speaker 3: that can raise their hand and say we're doing our job.
Speaker 3: We're playing as effectively and efficiently as as we could
Speaker 3: and should. Is it a group effort in terms of
Speaker 3: do you own seven markt or is it more on
Speaker 3: the quarterback play?
Speaker 6: Well, if you ask the owner, Woody Johnson, he would
Speaker 6: say it's the quarterback play. He basically threw justin Field
Speaker 6: under the bus yesterday when we approached him at the
Speaker 6: League meetings. He you know, he just really dumped on Fields,
Speaker 6: which I mean what he said was not untrue. I mean,
Speaker 6: Fields is not having a good year. This team has
Speaker 6: gone They've only scored six touchdowns in the last six games,
Speaker 6: and so they are really really struggling offensively. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I would say quarterback plays a big part of it.
Speaker 6: But early in the year, for the first five games,
Speaker 6: the defense was horrible. I mean they were given up
Speaker 6: over thirty points a game. So they've been taking turns,
Speaker 6: which I think bad teams usually do. And now the
Speaker 6: defense has settled down. The defense has actually played two
Speaker 6: good games in a row against Carolina and Denver, but
Speaker 6: now the offense can't get it out of its own way,
Speaker 6: two streat games without a touchdown. But I would say
Speaker 6: quarterback play is a big part of the issue, which
Speaker 6: is why I believe Justin Fields is probably going to
Speaker 6: the bench.
Speaker 2: Rich Simini covers the Jets for ESPN. Talking to some
Speaker 2: of the Bengals offensive linemen this week, they all rave
Speaker 2: about the Jets defensive front featuring three first round draft
Speaker 2: picks and Quinn Williams, Well McDonald and Jermaine Johnson. How
Speaker 2: well have those free guys been playing.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: They don't really have the stats dan to back it up.
Speaker 6: Quinnin Williams is their best defensive player, and I think
Speaker 6: he's only had one back so far. He gets double
Speaker 6: teamed a lot, but he's still a good player, even
Speaker 6: though it's not going to jump off the stat sheet.
Speaker 6: The other guys and Jermaine Johnson's really helped them the
Speaker 6: last two games he missed, I think it was three
Speaker 6: games with a high ankle spring he comes back two
Speaker 6: weeks ago, and it's not a coincidence that the defense
Speaker 6: started playing better when he came back two weeks ago.
Speaker 6: And will McDonald's purely like a pass rushing guy, an
Speaker 6: edge player, an undersized guy who can definitely be exploited
Speaker 6: against the run, but can bring pressure off the edge.
Speaker 6: I would say as a group they're probably underachieving so far.
Speaker 6: The talent is certainly there, but I just think they
Speaker 6: have not been able to generate consistent pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Watching tape and talking to people in the Cincinnati Bengals organizations,
Speaker 3: they've watched a hell of a lot more tape than
Speaker 3: I have watching games. They say that defensively, the stud
Speaker 3: is Quentin Williams Offensively, it's Garrett Wilson. Do you agree
Speaker 3: with that assessment.
Speaker 6: I do. I think, pound for pound of Quinn Williams
Speaker 6: is their best defensive player. You know, he's a former
Speaker 6: first team off ro. Now Sauce Gardner gets a lot
Speaker 6: of the accolades, but I do not believe Sauce Gardner
Speaker 6: will play in this game on Sunday. He's in the
Speaker 6: concussion protocol, and so offensively, Garrett Wilson, I do believe
Speaker 6: is probably their best offensive player. Now there's a good
Speaker 6: chance he may not play in this game. He did
Speaker 6: not practice again today. He's dealing with the knee injury
Speaker 6: that kept him out on Sunday. They're saying day to day. However,
Speaker 6: I am a little skeptical about his chances. The Yets
Speaker 6: have the bye week right after Cincinnati, so I think
Speaker 6: there's a sense in the organization that, hey, we'll just
Speaker 6: let him sit out this game and then have them
Speaker 6: come out of the bye week feeling one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's you know a Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 6: of two of their best players aren't there. It's going
Speaker 6: to be tough for them on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rich when Jamar Chase or t Higgins has to
Speaker 2: miss a game, the Bengals have the other guy, plus
Speaker 2: some other pretty good weapons. When Garrett Wilson is out,
Speaker 2: how's that receiving core for the Jets?
Speaker 6: The receiving core for the Jets looks like a maybe,
Speaker 6: Like what does Syracuse University receiving corps look like in
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty five? You know, it's just well not good Dan,
Speaker 6: it's you know, it's Garrett is a sensational player. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's clearly their their wide receiver one, but after that
Speaker 6: there is a steep drop off. Josh Reynolds would be
Speaker 6: their number two. I guess he is really more of
Speaker 6: a probably a four or five. They have Allen Lazae.
Speaker 6: He's probably a four or five. What I'm saying is
Speaker 6: they really do not have a perimeter threat. They have
Speaker 6: a young guy, Arian Smith, a draft pick from Georgia,
Speaker 6: who's probably the fastest guy on the team. I mean
Speaker 6: just he's a blur out there. But they never throw
Speaker 6: him the ball because he's never opened and you know
Speaker 6: when they do, he drops it. So yeah, long, long
Speaker 6: answer to a question is that, Yeah, with Algart Wilson,
Speaker 6: they are probably the worst receiving core in the league.
Speaker 3: What about the running game. I've always been a fan
Speaker 3: of Breess Hall. The coaches again in talking to them
Speaker 3: a little bit, and players as well, defensive players that
Speaker 3: have studied the Jets, like we talked about earlier, they
Speaker 3: were a fan of Breess Hall. They think he's a
Speaker 3: pretty damn good running back. They think he can do everything.
Speaker 3: They think that. You know, he can make people miss,
Speaker 3: great lateral quickness, he can catch the ball out of
Speaker 3: the backfield, you know, again, make you miss there, get
Speaker 3: yards after catch. And then interestingly and importantly, he sticks
Speaker 3: his nose right in there in the chest of linebackers
Speaker 3: and is an excellent blitz pickup guy. Is their assessment
Speaker 3: pretty accurate in your opinion?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that actually is a pretty good scouting report on
Speaker 6: Breeze Halt. He is having a good year. I mean,
Speaker 6: if you look at his numbers, you know he's having
Speaker 6: a good year. They don't use him enough in the
Speaker 6: passing game. It's kind of been one of the mysteries here.
Speaker 6: I think he's such a good receiver. A couple of
Speaker 6: years ago he had seventy five catches and he let
Speaker 6: all running backs And now they don't really use him
Speaker 6: that much. The Jets do not throw screen passes to
Speaker 6: the running backs, which is always another mystery. It would
Speaker 6: be a great way to slow down a good pass
Speaker 6: rushing team, and yet they don't really do that. But
Speaker 6: they do have a good running game. Their entire offense
Speaker 6: is built on being a good running team. Now when
Speaker 6: they have justin fields in there. In Week one, they
Speaker 6: look dynamic against Pittsburgh with fields running some zone reads
Speaker 6: and RPOs and Breeze Hall running out of the backfield
Speaker 6: of brayln Allen. It's like, my gosh, this looks like
Speaker 6: a pretty good offense. But they've never been able to
Speaker 6: recapture what they had in Week one. I think teams
Speaker 6: adjusted to what they've been doing and stopping them on
Speaker 6: first and second down, and when you get them in
Speaker 6: third and long, they're just not equipped to be a
Speaker 6: third and long type passing team. For all the reasons
Speaker 6: we discussed a moment ago.
Speaker 2: Rich My final question has to do with the quarterback
Speaker 2: the Jets will be facing this Sunday. Former Jet Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: who spent three years with New York when he was
Speaker 2: still a youngster between the ages of thirty five and
Speaker 2: thirty seven, having covered him for three years. What do
Speaker 2: you think of this renaissance and the fact that suddenly
Speaker 2: Bengals fans are have their chests out with pride and
Speaker 2: optimism that Joe Flacco is their quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I watched the game last week and it was it
Speaker 6: was fun watching two x Jet forty year old quarterbacks
Speaker 6: go at each other with Rogers go and Flacco is.
Speaker 6: He's the guy with nine lives. You know, it's unbelievable
Speaker 6: how he's been able to last in this league. His
Speaker 6: arm is obviously still really good. You know, he doesn't move,
Speaker 6: but you know he never really could, even in his
Speaker 6: hey day with Baltimore. But I think it's great. He's
Speaker 6: doing what he did in Cleveland. You know, as you
Speaker 6: recall a couple of years ago what he did for Cleveland,
Speaker 6: he injected hope and to that team. He looks like
Speaker 6: he's doing the same in Cincinnati, and I think the
Speaker 6: Jets are going to be I don't know. I'll have
Speaker 6: to get our stat people to look us up. When's
Speaker 6: the last time a team lost to two forty year
Speaker 6: old quarterbacks to the same year, because I think that'll
Speaker 6: probably happen on Sunday. The Jets lost to Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 6: in Week one, and I think they'll probably lose to
Speaker 6: Flacco on Sunday. But he had no When he was
Speaker 6: with the Jets, Dan he didn't really have much success
Speaker 6: because the team around him was just so poor and
Speaker 6: they were so poorly coached, so he never really had
Speaker 6: He had one moment against Cleveland when he led him
Speaker 6: back on a miraculous comeback in the last couple of minutes,
Speaker 6: and that was really about it, and it didn't look great.
Speaker 6: But you know, he's a guy who's persevered, and I'm
Speaker 6: really happy for Joe. He's a good guy.
Speaker 3: Boy. Back in the day, Paul Brown used to say, beware,
Speaker 3: this football team has an O and seven record, but
Speaker 3: they are not an O and seven football team. When
Speaker 3: I watch them, when I watch the schemes that they run,
Speaker 3: when I watch the personnel that they put out on
Speaker 3: the football field, I'm impressed. And that's not easy to
Speaker 3: do a lot of times with me. You know, that
Speaker 3: would be his his uh, basically presentation to the football team,
Speaker 3: getting them ready for this particular game. Do you think
Speaker 3: that the New York Jets are better than their own
Speaker 3: seven record?
Speaker 6: You know that's a that's a fascinating question because if
Speaker 6: you look at their roster, they do have some some
Speaker 6: very good players. I mean, we've talked about them, Garrett
Speaker 6: Wilson and Breeze Hall, and they're offensive line has a
Speaker 6: couple of good players, and Sauce Gardner and Quinton Williams
Speaker 6: and Jamie Sherwood's a good linebacker. The two edge rushers,
Speaker 6: Johnson and McDonald. So they have good players. They just
Speaker 6: haven't put it together, which is just the sign of
Speaker 6: a bad team. Like I said, the defense has played
Speaker 6: well the last two weeks. The special teams have played
Speaker 6: well the last couple of weeks. They're punter a guy
Speaker 6: who was in Cincinnati, Austin McNamara. He's one of the
Speaker 6: best punters in the league right now. And Nick Folk
Speaker 6: is a terrific kicker. So they have some components of
Speaker 6: a winning team, but it just never shows up on
Speaker 6: the same Sunday. And they might go out Sunday and
Speaker 6: their offense might put up like twenty eight points and
Speaker 6: the defense will just have a bad day. It's been
Speaker 6: that kind of year for the Jets. So I understand
Speaker 6: what the Bengals are coming from. Zach Taylor's probably like
Speaker 6: selling the Jets. This is not an O and seventeen,
Speaker 6: but they are oho to seven for a reason. They
Speaker 6: just self discro and too many self inflicted books.
Speaker 2: By the way, Rich, in response to a kind of
Speaker 2: a question you tossed out there, Brady and Breeze were
Speaker 2: in the same division in their forties. So I'm guessing
Speaker 2: that Carolina and Atlanta one or the other or both
Speaker 2: probably both lost to forty year old quarterbacks in the
Speaker 2: same year because they were facing each of those guys twice. Rich,
Speaker 2: appreciate your time, and hey, we've been doing a lot
Speaker 2: of research here about forty year old quarterbacks for the
Speaker 2: last a week or two. All right, thanks as always
Speaker 2: for your time, my friend. Great stuff, and look forward
Speaker 2: to seeing you at pay Course Stadium on Sunday.
Speaker 6: See Sunday, guys, Go Orange.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, you're so rich. All right.
Speaker 2: That is my former college classmate, Rich Samini, who is
Speaker 2: the man when it covers too. When it comes to
Speaker 2: covering the New York Jets. We'll take a time out
Speaker 2: when we come back. There might be a benefit of
Speaker 2: the Bengals adding Joe Flacco that you haven't thought about.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you what that is when we continue. This
Speaker 2: is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by bud Light.
Speaker 2: We're live at Champions Grill here on Work Road on
Speaker 2: the west side of Cincinnati on ESPN fifteen thirty shot
Speaker 2: step of Placo looking throw it tak the middle of
Speaker 2: the end zone.
Speaker 4: Noah fans.
Speaker 2: The Bengals tight end with a touchdown catch and Cincinnati's
Speaker 2: lead can be back to ten with the extra point.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers A little bit discussed, a little bit disturbed.
Speaker 2: That's how it sounded on Thursday night, the Bengals beating
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers in a thriller at pay Corpse Stadium, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Now three and four, looking to even gets recorded four
Speaker 2: and four this Sunday with a one o'clock game against
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. This is the Bengals Game Plan
Speaker 2: Show presented by bud Light. We are live at Champions Grill,
Speaker 2: thirty six seventy Work Road. Teddy Kay Ted Garris will
Speaker 2: be joining us in about twenty five minutes. Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: was incredible last Thursday night, the last six quarters. Really,
Speaker 2: he's played great and this is nothing new for him
Speaker 2: in his eighteen year NFL career, he has accomplished some
Speaker 2: of the greatest things you can accomplish as a quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's won a Super Bowl, He's been a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2: He's won seven true road playoff games. That is tied
Speaker 2: for the record with Tom Brady. He's never gone to
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl, but only because he turned it down
Speaker 2: for the birth of his third child back in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: He's got five kids now. One benefit of Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: being here is not only the fact that he's playing
Speaker 2: well right now, but Joe Burrow can learn from him.
Speaker 2: Joe has never had a backup since he's been the
Speaker 2: Bengals quarterback with a resume anything close to what Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco has. And Joe is around. He's in the meetings,
Speaker 2: he's in the building every day. He's spending a lot
Speaker 2: of time with Joe Flacco. I asked offensive coordinator Dan
Speaker 2: Pitcher about the learning that Joe Borrow can get from
Speaker 2: being around Joe Flacco here.
Speaker 7: He is He's never been around somebody, certainly at his
Speaker 7: position that has the resume that Joe Flacco has, and
Speaker 7: he probably never will. I mean maybe I don't know,
Speaker 7: you know, like the guys like Joe Flacco. There aren't
Speaker 7: that many of them. And how many times will Joe
Speaker 7: Burrow get a chance to share a meeting room with
Speaker 7: that guy, share a practice field with that guy?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know I've learned.
Speaker 7: Stuff being around him, and it's an experience that will
Speaker 7: inform how I coach and how I think about the
Speaker 7: game and the type of skills and approach that I
Speaker 7: value at that position. And so I think anybody that
Speaker 7: spend some time with him could take something away.
Speaker 2: It's an added benefit of having Joe Flack on this roster.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I mean I concur one hundred thousand per
Speaker 3: with what Dan Pitcher you know, has said. And uh
Speaker 3: and you're you're astute football mind, Dan, I mean you
Speaker 3: you pick up on all that stuff as well. And
Speaker 3: I think, honestly, name me a better duo at the
Speaker 3: quarterback position, a better one to two punch than the
Speaker 3: Joe's Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a team that you know has
Speaker 3: that that when Joe Burrow is able to play, Obviously
Speaker 3: right now he's on the shelf, but hopefully at some
Speaker 3: point in time he'll be able to he'll be able
Speaker 3: to take snaps and and threaten defenses and play his game.
Speaker 3: But I do think that Joe Flacco can learn from
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. I don't think their game. Their games, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, have more similarities than differences. The way they
Speaker 3: approach the game. They're both highly, highly intelligent, big time
Speaker 3: football IQ on the you know, boardline mensa. The way
Speaker 3: they see the football field. They can read the foot
Speaker 3: ballfield pre snap. Anything they do post snap to try
Speaker 3: to confuse or you know, make hesitation part of the
Speaker 3: game for the opposing quarterback, they're all over it, man.
Speaker 3: And I think I think that when Joe Flacco, when
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow comes back, Joe Flacco is gonna, you know, hesitantly.
Speaker 3: There'll be some hesitation him giving the reins back over
Speaker 3: to Joe. He's not gonna like it, but he'll understand
Speaker 3: it for sure. Because Joe Burrow is the best quarterback
Speaker 3: in the NFL. In my opinion, I think he throws
Speaker 3: the ball better than anybody. He gets out of his
Speaker 3: hand quicker than anybody. He makes reeves that are more
Speaker 3: accurate and improper than anybody. He can spin the rocks
Speaker 3: as well as anybody. But that's the similarity. In my mind,
Speaker 3: the biggest similarity between Joe Flaco and Joe Burrow is
Speaker 3: their ability to spin the rock make big plays down
Speaker 3: the football field.
Speaker 2: You know, I was trying to think of the answer
Speaker 2: to your question who has a better duo at quarterback
Speaker 2: in the NFL? And typically, if you have a guy
Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow, so we're talking Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, etc.
Speaker 2: You're spending so much money on that guy, you can't
Speaker 2: really spend a lot on his backup. Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: tend to have either a young guy or a journeyman
Speaker 2: like Gardner Minshew as Patrick Mahomes backup. The Ravens thought
Speaker 2: they had a great backup in Cooper Rush, but that
Speaker 2: was a disaster the two games that he had to
Speaker 2: start Lamar Jackson. So you might be right, this might
Speaker 2: be the best duo once Joe Burrow is healthy again
Speaker 2: that any team has.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, it makes It makes sense from the
Speaker 3: organizational standpoint because Paul Brown loved himself some quarterbacks. He
Speaker 3: wanted to have guys that could lead his football team
Speaker 3: run the offense that he was installing. He wanted it
Speaker 3: to be, you know, highest level possible. And now you
Speaker 3: know he'd be proud that his son, Mike Brown has
Speaker 3: pulled it off where he's got two quarterbacks that can
Speaker 3: execute the game plan that Dan Pitcher and Zach Taylor
Speaker 3: put together on a weekly basis at as high a
Speaker 3: level as he does. And the two receivers are eternally
Speaker 3: thankful as well. I mean, Jamar Chase is putting up
Speaker 3: stupid numbers, I mean crazy numbers. Gee Higgins is a
Speaker 3: great support, I mean, probably the best number two receiver
Speaker 3: in all of football. He'd be a number one at
Speaker 3: a high percentage of the teams in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: But the Bengals are fortunate enough to have both those
Speaker 3: guys as at one two points. So they're they're living right, man,
Speaker 3: They're living high cotton.
Speaker 2: The Bengals and Jets this Sunday, one o'clock at pay
Speaker 2: Course Stadium. This week's game is presented by Fifth Third Bank.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a time out. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: the defense when we come back, and specifically, why are
Speaker 2: the Bengals having such a hard time tackling people. We
Speaker 2: will tackle that topic when we continue. This is the
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Speaker 2: Dave laugh I'm back on the Bengals Game Plan Show
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Speaker 2: We are live at Champions Grill on Work Road on
Speaker 2: the west side of Cincinnati. The show will be here
Speaker 2: until eight o'clock tonight and Ted Carriss will be joining
Speaker 2: us in about fifteen minutes. So let's talk about the
Speaker 2: Bengals defense, next to last in the league in points allowed.
Speaker 2: Baltimore's last, Cincinnati is next to last. The Bengals are
Speaker 2: giving up slightly more than thirty points a game, and
Speaker 2: a big problem has been getting guys on the ground.
Speaker 2: There have been plenty of instances where seemingly there was
Speaker 2: a player or a couple of players in good position
Speaker 2: to make a tackle and they weren't able to get
Speaker 2: that job done. Let's hear from rookie linebacker Barrett Carter
Speaker 2: on the subject of poor tackling.
Speaker 8: Obviously, sometimes playmakers will make plays, but a lot of
Speaker 8: like if you look.
Speaker 4: At our mistackles, it's just it'sys. We just got to finish.
Speaker 2: We got to run through the tackle, take better angles,
Speaker 2: and you know, things like that.
Speaker 4: So it's all correctable mistakes. There's nothing, nothing crazy that
Speaker 4: we can't fix accurate.
Speaker 3: I think it is. I think they're their own worst enemy,
Speaker 3: you know. I do think the number of miss tackles
Speaker 3: is alarming. You know, it's the percentage is way high,
Speaker 3: and it shouldn't be because they do have players that
Speaker 3: can play football. They do have players that can tackle
Speaker 3: in space. But they either the technique or the fundamentals
Speaker 3: are both are just not there. They're not right. El
Speaker 3: Golden is probably pulling his hair off by the roots,
Speaker 3: there's no question about it, because he prides himself on
Speaker 3: a defensive football team that's a good tackling football team.
Speaker 3: When he was here the first time, the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 3: defense tackled well, I mean they're a pretty good group.
Speaker 3: Maybe not the best in the league, but I mean
Speaker 3: they it was not something that hurt them on a
Speaker 3: game by game basis whatsoever. And it's equal. I mean
Speaker 3: in the running game, they'll mistackles that turn a you know,
Speaker 3: a six yard five yard run into like a twenty
Speaker 3: five yard run. Then they'll give up a play or
Speaker 3: where they don't tackle in the middle of the football
Speaker 3: field or at either hash mark to sideline on both
Speaker 3: sides of the football field where they don't bring a
Speaker 3: receiver down after he makes a catch. You know, these
Speaker 3: receivers are great athletes. There's no question about it. There's
Speaker 3: no two ways about that statement. I mean, they are athletic,
Speaker 3: they're big, they're strong, they have lateral quickness, they have
Speaker 3: short space quickness. They can make you miss. They can
Speaker 3: turn you know, average play into a spectacular play. But
Speaker 3: the Bengals have to improve. They're tackling. Thirty points a
Speaker 3: game is not going to get it done. It's not
Speaker 3: going to cut it. You're not going to be a
Speaker 3: playoff team giving up thirty points a game. It's just
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. Hasn't happened in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 3: So they're going to have to chop that down to
Speaker 3: you know, eighteen to twenty points a game over the
Speaker 3: rest of the season in order to compete for the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: So the tackling has been a negative. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: a positive, and that's been the play of cornerback DJ Turner. Yes,
Speaker 2: leading the NFL in passes defense by far, he's got thirteen.
Speaker 2: I think that's three more than anybody else. Had a
Speaker 2: spectacular interception last week where he ripped the ball away
Speaker 2: from DK Metcalf. According to PFF, he's the number five
Speaker 2: cornerback in the NFL in their coverage grade. Quarterbacks are
Speaker 2: only completing forty three point eight percent of passes where
Speaker 2: he is the cornerback in coverage. He is emerging as
Speaker 2: the shutdown corner that every team is desperate to find.
Speaker 2: What stands out to you lap about DJ Turner's.
Speaker 3: Play, Well, like you talked about the fact that he
Speaker 3: is fearless. He wants to take the best receiver. You know.
Speaker 3: He'll say to Al Golden, I got him. I'll neutralize him,
Speaker 3: I'll shut him down. I'll help the defense. He does
Speaker 3: get his hands on a lot of footballs. I mean,
Speaker 3: he really is instinctive that way. He reads routes. He
Speaker 3: reads progression of routes at the same rate the quarterback does,
Speaker 3: and in some instances faster than the quarterback does. He's
Speaker 3: there with his hand on the football before the quarterback
Speaker 3: can realize I shouldn't have thrown that football. He has
Speaker 3: helped his team immensely. If everybody on the defensive football
Speaker 3: team was playing at the level that DJ Turner's playing,
Speaker 3: that the Bengals would be in high cotton right now.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think they'd probably have two
Speaker 3: losses instead of four. He's playing good football for Al
Speaker 3: Golden's defense.
Speaker 2: He really is.
Speaker 4: So is Dax Hill.
Speaker 2: Those two guys have really shown so far on the
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. Agreed for Cincinnati, we'll take
Speaker 2: a time out. Coming up next. If you see a
Speaker 2: guy sitting alone at dinner at a restaurant looking lonely,
Speaker 2: don't feel bad for Joe Flacco. We'll hear from him
Speaker 2: on that subject when we continue. This is the Bengals
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Speaker 2: Champions Grilled here on Work Road on the west side
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. Ted Harris will be here in a matter
Speaker 2: of minutes. We have four to visiting with the Bengals captain.
Speaker 2: So Joe Flacco is a father of five. I believe
Speaker 2: he told us His kids were between the ages of
Speaker 2: eight and thirteen. Right, if I'm not mistaken, they are
Speaker 2: going to be here this weekend for the home game
Speaker 2: against the New York Jets, but they're not living in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and that's understandable. Joe's been bouncing from team to team
Speaker 2: to team in recent years. Hard to take five kids
Speaker 2: out of school for a few months, so he is
Speaker 2: basically kind of living the bachelor life at the moment
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, and he talked about that earlier today
Speaker 2: as he met with the local media.
Speaker 9: I think there's always a challenge of sitting in a
Speaker 9: room by yourself and being lonely. So for me, it's
Speaker 9: trying to find ways to maybe stay over here a
Speaker 9: little bit longer and then you know, just kind of
Speaker 9: take myself out of that mindset, call home, go sit
Speaker 9: at a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, that's
Speaker 9: pretty enjoyable to do.
Speaker 3: Tell you, I tell people all the time.
Speaker 9: I mean I used to see guys sitting at a
Speaker 9: bar by themselves, or you know, just sitting by themselves
Speaker 9: eating and grabbing a little meal, and like, man, I
Speaker 9: feel so bad for that guy. You almost want to
Speaker 9: go join them. And now I realize like that dude
Speaker 9: was in heaven. And not to say that that's that's
Speaker 9: obviously not what I want. I'd rather I'd rather be
Speaker 9: at home, sitting at the dinner table with my kids
Speaker 9: and hearing what the hell they were talking about all day.
Speaker 9: But if you have to do it, then you might
Speaker 9: as well take advantage of it, so you know, just
Speaker 9: little things like that.
Speaker 2: I love this guy.
Speaker 3: True, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: His press conference isn't great. He's playing great. I am
Speaker 2: quickly becoming the president of the Joe Flacco Fan Club.
Speaker 3: I hear you, I'll be vice president. He is entertaining.
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's entertaining in the locker room, he's
Speaker 3: entertaining in the press conference room.
Speaker 4: He's entertaining on.
Speaker 3: The football field. The way he's playing, I mean the
Speaker 3: two games he's very narrow defeat, a nice narrow victory.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got his football team in every game.
Speaker 3: And his teammates love him. They love the guy. They
Speaker 3: think he's funny, they think he's smart as hell. They
Speaker 3: think he's got football IQ and calm yeah Joe calm yeah.
Speaker 2: Nothing rattles a guy.
Speaker 3: No, unflappable. I mean He's been in a lot of
Speaker 3: big games. He understands what it takes to compete and
Speaker 3: win big games. And you can't short sell that. That
Speaker 3: is a valuable commodity right there.
Speaker 2: So after the game last week, Zach Taylor was talking
Speaker 2: to the media after the victory over Pittsburgh, and at
Speaker 2: one point he mentioned, I need to enunciate the formations better.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's my Oklahoma accent. And I thought that was
Speaker 2: kind of amusing. I thought, maybe he's just kind of
Speaker 2: joking around. Then I listened back to part of our broadcast.
Speaker 2: I always listened to a little just you know, self critique,
Speaker 2: and I picked up on something that I did not
Speaker 2: hear live.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: The Bengals called it tied a timeout rather, and we're
Speaker 2: discussing why they called the time out, and then one
Speaker 2: of the parabolic microphones on the sideline picked up, clear
Speaker 2: as a bell, Joe Flacco saying a nunciate the formations
Speaker 2: to Zach.
Speaker 4: It was amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry we didn't pick up on it live, because
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking and it got a little
Speaker 2: bit buried in the background. But as I listened back,
Speaker 2: it was clear as a bell.
Speaker 3: Why that? And really You've got a veteran quarterback in
Speaker 3: his forties that is unbelievably confident in himself.
Speaker 4: To do that, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, he understands that his position right now on
Speaker 3: this football team is pretty secure and he can give critique,
Speaker 3: criticized the game plan, criticized play calls, all that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, and honestly, Za next the kind of coach
Speaker 3: where he kind of welcomes that that interchange, that interaction.
Speaker 3: So I like, I like the direction that this is heading.
Speaker 3: I think that their best football is still way ahead
Speaker 3: of them. There's a lot of meat left on that bone,
Speaker 3: and uh, it's gonna be fun to watch him eat it.
Speaker 2: The offensive line played well last week and he surrendered
Speaker 2: a couple of sacks. Ted Carris is going to join
Speaker 2: us on the show momentarily. Ted has in the house.
Speaker 2: He is in the house here at Champions Grill. Those
Speaker 2: guys are going to be tested though on Sunday because
Speaker 2: the front four for the Jets, that's the strength of
Speaker 2: the entire.
Speaker 3: Team, it is. Quinn Williams is a big time player,
Speaker 3: you know, he's He's one of those guys that is
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl caliber player, has all the physical attribute, size, strength, leverage,
Speaker 3: long arms, change of direction, quick feet, He's got everything,
Speaker 3: plays the run in pass equally proficiently and effectively. So oh,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a Ted's gonna have his hands fall.
Speaker 3: I mean, he'll be working against him quite a bit
Speaker 3: during the course of the football game. So hopefully we'll
Speaker 3: get a ulet him out of here at a reasonable
Speaker 3: hour tonight, because needs all the rest you can get
Speaker 3: this week.
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Speaker 2: this Sunday at one o'clock as the Bengals look for
Speaker 2: their second consecutive win. Looked even the record at four
Speaker 2: and four. As promised, we are joined for the second
Speaker 2: hour of our show by a Bengals fan favorite. He's
Speaker 2: in his fourth year as a Bengals captain. He was
Speaker 2: the Bengals Walter Peyton Man of the Year, a nominee
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Awesome on the field, tremendous
Speaker 2: in the community. Let's hear it for Ted karras.
Speaker 3: All right, the man.
Speaker 4: Glad to be here on the West side of night.
Speaker 4: This is my fourth appearance on the show.
Speaker 2: Is that you've been a regular?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Four years in a row. We've done this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you're a go to guy.
Speaker 10: Perfect timing too, Starting to get a little cooler, really
Speaker 10: feeling like Chris Chrispin.
Speaker 2: The fez An Indianapolis kid grew up expecting football like this,
Speaker 2: you know, late October, early November.
Speaker 4: First cold Snap's always a holiday in my family.
Speaker 3: And you you were on a short shortness of short
Speaker 3: lists for guests for the show. You're a solid gold
Speaker 3: guest one.
Speaker 4: No doubt.
Speaker 10: And I always joke I should have laugh them. Dave
Speaker 10: Blackholm introduced me everywhere.
Speaker 4: Just bring them around. My intros in the trenches are
Speaker 4: some of them.
Speaker 3: They are well and deservedly so well earned, well deserved.
Speaker 2: The good news is you are doing this show for
Speaker 2: the fourth year in a row, but we are thrilled
Speaker 2: to say that we're going to have you back for
Speaker 2: a fifth because you're already signed for next year. You
Speaker 2: got that extension earlier season. Well deserved and just awesome.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. That was a big honor.
Speaker 10: I'm really grateful to the Brown family, the Blackbiran family.
Speaker 10: Really a nod to you know what I want to
Speaker 10: do here win here, so really excited about it.
Speaker 3: You know, I admire you and respect you for the
Speaker 3: way you take care of yourself. I mean it's it's
Speaker 3: not easy. It's not like you know, falling off a log,
Speaker 3: playing double digit seasons in the National Football League. You've
Speaker 3: done that. I mean, you've accomplished that. There's not a
Speaker 3: whole lot of guys walking around the face of the
Speaker 3: earth that can make that claim.
Speaker 2: Two of them are right here, though, which is kind
Speaker 2: of cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah, that's right. We're both with the
Speaker 3: dynamic duel. Right. I mean, I wish always laugh. I
Speaker 3: wish I had played with this guy. I love the
Speaker 3: guys I played with. Love the offensive lineman, I praaid
Speaker 3: with Muno's Montoya, all those I love those guys. This guy, though,
Speaker 3: I mean, he gets it. He's all football all the time.
Speaker 10: I don't know if I was big enough to be
Speaker 10: on that line.
Speaker 4: You guys, I still hang out with you guys. I'm like,
Speaker 4: geez big Joe Walter Ohm.
Speaker 3: Telling you Jojo Man, he's a horse force in behalf.
Speaker 3: I mean I was, you know, in high school and
Speaker 3: even in college. It's like, you know, six or four
Speaker 3: that's fairly tall. I was like, looking up, it felt
Speaker 3: like I was in a hole in the huddle with
Speaker 3: these guys.
Speaker 11: Yea, and they're all giants, giant we have some giants
Speaker 11: two though, give some Yeah, your tackles, man, big big people,
Speaker 11: good people though too right, You're you're old line.
Speaker 3: It's it just seems to be a hell of a
Speaker 3: good group of guys. I love going into the locker
Speaker 3: room and I'll hang back there and just listen to
Speaker 3: you guys tell each other stories, talk to each other
Speaker 3: about football. I love hearing the football part of it,
Speaker 3: but I love hearing you guys, you know, crack jokes
Speaker 3: and tell stories of each other. That's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite times of the week.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 10: Now, we're all really good friends, and that's I think
Speaker 10: a key to you know, hopefully more success. And like
Speaker 10: tomorrow night we're going over to Orlando's house. We go
Speaker 10: line dinner really every Thursday, always hosts it, and uh,
Speaker 10: you know, he's he's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 4: And I think a Marius Men's too. What a what
Speaker 4: a pick for this organization.
Speaker 3: He's a stud man. That guy's a great marvel.
Speaker 4: Not a kid anymore, I guess he's not.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, so, man, now, book so last Thursday was
Speaker 2: an awesome win and just a tremendous game and a
Speaker 2: thrilling night to be a paid course. Yeah sure, and
Speaker 2: we have since discovered that you were miked up. I
Speaker 2: highly recommend going to Bengals dot Com checking out the video.
Speaker 2: It is tremendous. It's one of my favorites in years.
Speaker 3: Did they have to beep anything out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a pape and that doesn't necessarily translate great
Speaker 2: from TV to radio, but we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2: Here is a snippet of Ted's miked up segment from
Speaker 2: last Thursday's victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4: Love it, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: Hud hudd them, hudd 'm hudd up.
Speaker 4: Hey, No one relaxes from second. Me and you, Minjy,
Speaker 4: me and you, Moby, me and you Minjy.
Speaker 2: The kick is off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 4: God, great job job. I love you, man, I love you.
Speaker 4: I love you too, man. Great job, Scott, great job,
Speaker 4: great job man. It's stupid movie. Let's finish you saw me?
Speaker 4: I want I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so good, unbelievable, so good. So at the
Speaker 2: very end there you're talking to your offensive line coach
Speaker 2: Scott Peters. Evan McPherson had jus kicked the field goal
Speaker 2: to give you the lead with seven seconds to go,
Speaker 2: but you're not taking anything for granted.
Speaker 10: I'm not there yet. I mean my whole life. I
Speaker 10: watched this guy throw at seventy yards. I remember made
Speaker 10: in my parents' living room watching him throw hail Marys.
Speaker 4: I'm not right. He made it there too, he did,
Speaker 4: he did. I wasn't ready to really that. It's Rogers
Speaker 4: on the other side.
Speaker 10: We know where he's gonna He's gonna roll left, he's
Speaker 10: gonna plan his feet and longside thing.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: He holds the all time record for hail Mary's.
Speaker 4: Very good.
Speaker 2: Very good because not only does he throw it seventy yards,
Speaker 2: but he throws it with such heights they come straight down.
Speaker 4: It's huge.
Speaker 10: It's I wasn't there yet, Like I said, I wanted
Speaker 10: to see that triple zeros.
Speaker 2: Well, you got there, and so did the team, which
Speaker 2: was great. So I had to ask Zach Taylor today
Speaker 2: about your game day persona, this zone you go into
Speaker 2: during the course of a game. Here's what your head
Speaker 2: coach had to say.
Speaker 5: I think if three words describe him high energy conversations.
Speaker 5: Anytime I go to him with something, it's a high
Speaker 5: energy conversation and response, which is great. I like high energy.
Speaker 5: I don't want doll, don't want to be out here.
Speaker 5: I want high energy let's get this fixed. Yeah, let's
Speaker 5: do that. Let's stick with this Ted Carris high energy conversation.
Speaker 5: Really all in all phases of life, great quality to have.
Speaker 3: I love high.
Speaker 5: Energy, bring some juice, you know, and Ted brings some juice,
Speaker 5: and so I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It's awesome high energy conversation.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the heck of a commedy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 10: I think some people have considered me a little too
Speaker 10: much at times, but I've never really cared, you.
Speaker 3: Know, bringing the juice. That that's you. I mean, like
Speaker 3: we said, you love football. Football is what you're all about.
Speaker 3: Football and Ted Carris is synonymous. Man. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a weekly fall activity for you. When did
Speaker 3: you realize that you had fallen in love with the
Speaker 3: game of football?
Speaker 10: Oh, I mean probably since my earliest memories. Just my
Speaker 10: dad's been a football coach, you know, his whole career. Yeah,
Speaker 10: so I was always around a training camp and pretty
Speaker 10: much since when I understood what football was.
Speaker 4: That was my goal is to be good at football. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's great.
Speaker 10: I've never had, really, I don't have any fallen memory
Speaker 10: that doesn't involve a football season directly.
Speaker 4: Affecting my family's life. Wow, very grateful for that.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: So with your dad being a coach, was it kind
Speaker 2: of the stereotypical You're watching tape with him from a
Speaker 2: very early age and picking up an understanding of the game.
Speaker 10: I'm definitely around, you know, tape was different back then.
Speaker 10: I'm definitely around the facility a lot that now it
Speaker 10: was like v v VHS.
Speaker 2: Phs Lap had the film.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, always. We all watch a lot of Recruits films.
Speaker 10: And my parents are tuned in, you know, right now
Speaker 10: in Indianapolis. And now he coaches Marrion University, the Marrior
Speaker 10: University Knights six nights in the country. And I love
Speaker 10: those guys. And they got a big they got a
Speaker 10: big one on Saturday. We got a big weekend coming
Speaker 10: up for everybody. That's a great thing about football season.
Speaker 10: It's onto the next, onunder the next, for sure.
Speaker 3: And with that said, I mean, you guys are three
Speaker 3: and four, right in the thick of it, I mean
Speaker 3: right right in the middle of you know, the season
Speaker 3: basically a little bit not not quite to the halfway
Speaker 3: point yet, but coming off a win against the division rival,
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers that have a hell of a quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's going to be in the Hall of Fame. How
Speaker 3: big is that win?
Speaker 10: That's big, But it's only one win, only counts as one,
Speaker 10: so I think it definitely got a bad month off
Speaker 10: our back and now it's time to start building on
Speaker 10: some things. But yeah, we won one game, and you
Speaker 10: know everyone that's that is exciting and we're all very excited.
Speaker 10: But now we got the New York Jets come to
Speaker 10: town and with a good defensive front seven always and
Speaker 10: need a string stringing together.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco's last six quarters have been nothing short of remarkable.
Speaker 2: A guy that arrived on a Tuesday and started at
Speaker 2: Green Bay on a Sunday. From your ten years of
Speaker 2: experience in the NFL, what is the most amazing part
Speaker 2: of all of this to you?
Speaker 10: Well, I always say one of my favorite like professional pleasures,
Speaker 10: I guess, is to watch NFL quarterbacks throw the football.
Speaker 4: And I've got to see some all time legends.
Speaker 10: I'm very, very grateful I've been able to play with
Speaker 10: legendary quarterbacks. And he throws one of the nicer scene
Speaker 10: and the farthest he can. He can really sling that
Speaker 10: thing and he's he he throws it very hard and
Speaker 10: personality wise, I don't think anything fazes this guy.
Speaker 4: He's cool as a cucumber, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is man. We all know.
Speaker 2: We know obviously that you played with break in New England.
Speaker 2: Who were your quarterbacks in Miami, Ryan Fitzpatrick Tua. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had Brady obviously. Joe Burrow mac Jones was back.
Speaker 4: In New England and is playing great.
Speaker 10: Gosho Jimmy g played a game with him, but a
Speaker 10: preseason game with Cam Newton.
Speaker 3: Cam.
Speaker 10: I have a good list by but Brady fits blacko Joe.
Speaker 3: That's you do have a great list, man, I mean,
Speaker 3: for you have as good a list as anybody ever heard.
Speaker 3: Rattling off that's a laundry.
Speaker 4: That's what Dad said.
Speaker 10: I called him on the way here when I was
Speaker 10: talking about That's what he said too.
Speaker 4: So that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're very grateful your buddy, Joe Tooney's got
Speaker 2: a pretty good list.
Speaker 4: He's got a good list. He got a good list.
Speaker 3: He does, he really does. So what wi your offensive
Speaker 3: line coach or coach is would you say taught you
Speaker 3: the most that you could use to be a high
Speaker 3: level player in the National Football League which guy, which
Speaker 3: coach tutored you the best about offensive line play?
Speaker 4: Dante Scarneccia. I look at the game today.
Speaker 10: I would not be in the NFL still if I
Speaker 10: wasn't trained by him. Yeah, I've stolen everything from him.
Speaker 4: I live.
Speaker 10: I live my football life at O line according to
Speaker 10: Dante Karen. Now, obviously you have new coaches, new systems,
Speaker 10: and you have to share and stuff. But the core
Speaker 10: tenants of how I approach offensive line play are all
Speaker 10: Dante Scarneccia.
Speaker 3: Technique, fundamentals, all that sort of thing and everything.
Speaker 4: All the I was raised was ingrained in me at
Speaker 4: the Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and this question is way too early. You got
Speaker 3: a lot of football left. But when you're done playing football,
Speaker 3: could you see yourself coaching? Is that? Is that something?
Speaker 3: Is that on the table? Is one of the options
Speaker 3: that you're considering? Uh, when you retire from the NFL.
Speaker 4: Everything's on the table. When I retire from the NFL.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm open to the realm of all possibilities. Come on,
Speaker 10: I would never say no, it's any opportunity at least
Speaker 10: consider it. So you know, I love the game, and
Speaker 10: I love Obviously I'm very well trained offensive line.
Speaker 3: So you'd be great. You'd be You'd be an unbelievable
Speaker 3: line coach. You really would. I mean I wish I
Speaker 3: wish you were my line coach when I came back,
Speaker 3: came into the National Football League. I mean, I know
Speaker 3: if Marius Mims talks about you, how much you have
Speaker 3: meant to him in the early stages of his professional careers.
Speaker 3: Like Chris Man, I mean, Ted Carris, he's where, he's
Speaker 3: where it's at, He's where. Here's what it's all about.
Speaker 4: Mimsy's what it's all about too. Though.
Speaker 10: I'm really glad he's a stid room and he's really
Speaker 10: come along and been He's gonna be rock solid for
Speaker 10: years the city.
Speaker 2: That is an excellent segue because we are going to
Speaker 2: take a time out and when we come back, we
Speaker 2: will hear from a Marius Villo talking about our special guest,
Speaker 2: Ted Carris. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented
Speaker 2: by bud Light. We're live at Champions Grill here on
Speaker 2: Work Road on the west side of Since on ESPN
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We are broadcasting live tonight from Champions Grill.
Speaker 2: The address is thirty six seventy Work Road on the
Speaker 2: west side of Cincinnati. It's the Bengals Game Plan Show
Speaker 2: presented by Blight. I'm Dan Horde along with my partner
Speaker 2: in pal Ring of Honor inductee Dave Lapham, and our
Speaker 2: special guest is Bengals center and Captain Ted Carris. Ted
Speaker 2: kind enough to join us for the final hour of
Speaker 2: our show tonight. As we mentioned before the commercial break,
Speaker 2: Ted is a mentor to right tackle a Marius Mimms
Speaker 2: just celebrated his twenty third birthdays, obviously in his second
Speaker 2: NFL season after being the first round draft pick a
Speaker 2: year ago. Earlier today, I talked to him, Marius. He
Speaker 2: shared his u's respect for and feelings for Ted Carris.
Speaker 2: Here's Marius Mims.
Speaker 8: I just respect like the man he is and how
Speaker 8: he comes to work every day being the same guy.
Speaker 3: Uh I get.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna know, I'm gonna get the same tad every
Speaker 8: day and then until I feel like he's a great
Speaker 8: leader he leaves our team. I don't care what anybody say.
Speaker 8: He's one of the best. Like I said, best humans
Speaker 8: and best leaders. I've been around my whole life. If
Speaker 8: you see how hard he practices through pain and all,
Speaker 8: and just like I've never seen him like, really take
Speaker 8: a rep off. It's just it's just like doesn't happen,
Speaker 8: and it's something you like, you want him the leader,
Speaker 8: and like it's something I respect honestly, and I would
Speaker 8: want to one throw a wall for that guy. So
Speaker 8: it's like he leaves us in the in the meeting rooms,
Speaker 8: he leaves us in the walk throughs, he leaves us
Speaker 8: out the tunnel, he leaves us in everything. So I
Speaker 8: mean I respect him. I respect him, like I said,
Speaker 8: as a man, as a teammate, you know, I'm just
Speaker 8: glad to be his teammate. Like I said, I always
Speaker 8: got your back when he was on pat the last
Speaker 8: one was gonna go win the game and feel like
Speaker 8: you got my back.
Speaker 3: I was like, what kind of question is that? You
Speaker 3: know that? Come on now, wait, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Run through a wall for you?
Speaker 11: I believe that that's a big statement, man, And I
Speaker 11: would for him too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. See that that's that's what That's what the old
Speaker 3: line is all about, right, I mean that kind of
Speaker 3: you guys are established in bonds and relationships. They're going
Speaker 3: to be there your whole life.
Speaker 10: They are, and you know, there's not much that I
Speaker 10: can really tell them technique wise, because we.
Speaker 4: Play essentially a different different game there.
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know what it's like to be
Speaker 10: you know, six eight three fifty and there's I think
Speaker 10: that's why Orlando is so valuable too. And we have
Speaker 10: such a great group of guys that play off each other,
Speaker 10: and because Orlando does know what it's like to play
Speaker 10: that as a big tackle in the NFL sure and
Speaker 10: has really mentored men's very well.
Speaker 4: I think Orlando is one of our best leaders as well.
Speaker 10: So I know I get a lot of credit, but
Speaker 10: I like to defer a lot of it because we
Speaker 10: have excellent men in our locker room.
Speaker 2: So Amarus, as I mentioned, is in his second year
Speaker 2: and he is kind of a vet by default on
Speaker 2: this offensive line because you've had two rookies starting at
Speaker 2: guard with Dylan Fairchild and Jalen Rivers. Do you feel
Speaker 2: like the Bengals are building a nucleus in those three
Speaker 2: spots for an offensive line that you know going to
Speaker 2: be together for a long time.
Speaker 4: Heck yeah, I think.
Speaker 10: I think Jalen Rivers is unbelievable. I think he'll probably
Speaker 10: be the right guard here for eight nine years. So
Speaker 10: it's been a pleasure to watch him grow up even
Speaker 10: in these five games and just get you know, I
Speaker 10: tell all these.
Speaker 4: Young guys a lot, like a lot of O lines sometimes.
Speaker 10: Is just the feel of it, Like you have to
Speaker 10: have a good feel, and the only way you can
Speaker 10: get that is by playing in games.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I've seen just such a dramatic jump.
Speaker 10: Between when he first was in the lineup until you know,
Speaker 10: this last week. So really excited about that. And Dylan,
Speaker 10: Dylan's amazing. Hopefully he's you know, he's back on the
Speaker 10: field this week and and getting some reps in and we.
Speaker 4: Have to I think we have a good, good young
Speaker 4: group in the old line room.
Speaker 3: That's the key. Young. I mean, you guys have so
Speaker 3: many years ahead of you of now you're more like
Speaker 3: going into your going into the last Yeah right, no,
Speaker 3: not not not now, not not not until, not until
Speaker 3: a couple of years.
Speaker 4: Not the oldest guy on the team anymore. Okay, everyone signed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. You could be a son, Yeah exactly
Speaker 3: exactly if he if he, if he was a young dad,
Speaker 3: you could be a son. But I mean that that
Speaker 3: group and the way Mims talks about you, I mean
Speaker 3: he looks at you as almost like a farther figure.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're, you're basically his offensive line savant.
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're, you're the guy that is going
Speaker 3: to lead him to higher uh level of play, you know,
Speaker 3: and and he understands how important all that is. The
Speaker 3: bonds that you guys are making uh in the offensive
Speaker 3: line are going to be with you forever they are.
Speaker 10: And Lucas Patrick was another great addition to your team.
Speaker 10: I mean, what a guy brought a lot of a
Speaker 10: lot of great stuff to our line. And it's nice
Speaker 10: to have another ten year guy around two that can
Speaker 10: validate some of the things we learned as young players
Speaker 10: and passed them down how we were raised in the NFL.
Speaker 3: To I watched Scott Peters coaching you guys up out
Speaker 3: in the field, and I mean it's it's as a
Speaker 3: former offensive lineman and I know Anthony, I've watched practice
Speaker 3: with the Anthony him being a former lineman Max as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's impressive to watch Scott Peters do
Speaker 3: it what he does. I mean, he is a hell
Speaker 3: of a coach. Technique fundamentals. I mean, he teaches him
Speaker 3: as well as anybody.
Speaker 4: He does. And you know, it's great to have a
Speaker 4: group that we have.
Speaker 10: And you know, I think as far as veterans goes
Speaker 10: me and Lucas are way nicer than the veterans when
Speaker 10: I was coming into the league. But we decided to say,
Speaker 10: you know, we got to keep this thing going as
Speaker 10: an edgy Wednesday, and we're like, you know what, we've
Speaker 10: been too nice to these young guys. So we were
Speaker 10: on people's butts today and had a really good Wednesday,
Speaker 10: and we'll be on him again tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Cool, high energy, like it, like it.
Speaker 2: High energy conversation, there you go and actions. So the
Speaker 2: running game was awesome on Thursday night against Pittsburgh to
Speaker 2: the year. Obviously, why what allowed you guys to take
Speaker 2: off that way on Thursday night?
Speaker 4: You know, I think the coaches gave us a good plan.
Speaker 10: I always say the two biggest tenants of the run
Speaker 10: game or a hat on a hat and get the
Speaker 10: ball downhill.
Speaker 4: And I think guys individually executed.
Speaker 10: We got the ball entering the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 10: in a fast rate of speed, and obviously if we
Speaker 10: can get chase a little bit of room, get things
Speaker 10: you know, blocked up, and he had some explosives. So
Speaker 10: I think we got to continue to build on that.
Speaker 4: You know, we know who we are.
Speaker 10: It's never going to be the highest volume of runs,
Speaker 10: but we got to be efficient. We got to hit
Speaker 10: explosives and like I said, get a hat on a
Speaker 10: hat and get the ball downhill.
Speaker 3: I thought that you guys finished blocks about as well
Speaker 3: as you have all year long. I see you're not
Speaker 3: in your head a little bit with that.
Speaker 10: You agree, I would agree. You know a lot of
Speaker 10: some people have said that. I think, you know, one
Speaker 10: thing just watching the game was I don't think there's
Speaker 10: been a lack of effort at all. I think absolutely,
Speaker 10: but I think that was an exceptional showing of effort.
Speaker 10: And then, like we talked about that in the meeting today,
Speaker 10: is that that's what it is gonna take. So it's
Speaker 10: it's not like we're not going hard, but we're gonna
Speaker 10: have to even go the hardest we can to get
Speaker 10: things going.
Speaker 4: And that's it showed up on Thursday night.
Speaker 10: It's got to show up again on tomorrow's practice and
Speaker 10: Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3: So that's why you're talking about being ashy ted. You're
Speaker 3: gonna get after him a little bit to make sure
Speaker 3: that they sustain the level what they were performing with
Speaker 3: on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a padded Thursday. It's gonna be a little edge.
Speaker 4: You ever to be a little little, a little moody
Speaker 4: at times?
Speaker 3: Love it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: How good is Quinnin Williams?
Speaker 4: Really good player?
Speaker 10: I have so much respect for him, you know.
Speaker 4: Very I think a lot of people don't realize he's
Speaker 4: a very strong player.
Speaker 10: He's probably the statistically this year he's the leading in
Speaker 10: run defenses from the defensive tackle positions.
Speaker 4: So we have a big task ahead of this.
Speaker 10: That whole that whole crew is good, obviously headlined by him,
Speaker 10: But the New York Jets have always had a good
Speaker 10: front sevens as long as I've known him, and this
Speaker 10: year's no exception.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've played against him a lot, I mean you
Speaker 3: can you can draw comparisons for for a lot of years.
Speaker 3: What Jets defensive player is the one? You know? Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not did you play against Gas and Cleco and
Speaker 3: those guys know that I'm Frank Fraying cramping a little bit?
Speaker 3: But you did? Yeah? I did know, I sure did.
Speaker 3: Man Clecko, that son of a buck and them being kind.
Speaker 10: I mean the Jets, those Jets defenses early on in
Speaker 10: my career when I was in New England. We're very tough,
Speaker 10: you know, Mohammed Wilkerson, Big Stax, Harrison with Henry Anderson.
Speaker 10: Obviously Quinn Williams showed up. They had a lot of guys,
Speaker 10: had a lot of guys and really really good players.
Speaker 3: DJ Mosley Yeah, that uh, that Jets front, defensive front.
Speaker 3: They ate human growth hormones and steroids for breakfast, launch
Speaker 3: and dinner. I mean it was unbelievable and cleo ate the.
Speaker 4: Most of them. Can't get away with it now though, No.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. And you know what I think it's
Speaker 3: I think it's better. It's certainly better for the players.
Speaker 3: I mean you have to you have to take care
Speaker 3: of the players. I mean the players. Yeah, sometimes they're
Speaker 3: not smart enough to take care of themselves.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of long term side effects of that.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Especially the business like this, you do have to
Speaker 10: regulate that because I mean, if it was legal and
Speaker 10: everyone's taking them, we don't.
Speaker 2: Need to get into the right yea, that was baseball
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 4: But that's a different subject.
Speaker 2: All right, we need to take a time out. I
Speaker 2: am leaving you, guys, I have to head to the
Speaker 2: West Miller Radio show at the original Montgomery in so
Speaker 2: a couple of offensive linemen are gonna take it the
Speaker 2: rest of the way.
Speaker 11: We're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna finish it out.
Speaker 4: Football, Let's give it up for the great ten Let's
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: How about that you start that.
Speaker 2: I'll best thing on my ride to Montgomery.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Have a great final half hour. Ted, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for being here tonight, and we'll take a break.
Speaker 2: This is the Bengals Game Playing Show presented by Bud Light,
Speaker 2: live from Champions Grill on the West side of Cincinnati
Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Bengals Game Plan and we're iHeartRadio with
Speaker 3: Ted Krris. Ted Krris is basically hosting. I'm going to
Speaker 3: co host the rest of the Yeah, how about it's
Speaker 3: going to be a show for the old line. You know, So,
Speaker 3: what teammate other than Bengal teammates. I know you've got
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown, mimes. What teammate that you played with, either
Speaker 3: with the Bengals or with the New England Patriots was
Speaker 3: the biggest athletic marvel, you know, the biggest freakazoid like
Speaker 3: Anthony Munos. When I played next to him, was was
Speaker 3: absolutely different. You know. He was a different kind of guy,
Speaker 3: cut from different clock How about for you anybody.
Speaker 10: So one of my dearest friends and one of my
Speaker 10: old time best friends, and I always say, probably the
Speaker 10: best football player at his position that I've ever seen anyone,
Speaker 10: is Joe Toney and the Chicago Bearris are coming to
Speaker 10: town in two weeks.
Speaker 4: He's a he's a dat and Archbishop Alter Cattering altar.
Speaker 10: There you go, there you go, and we you know,
Speaker 10: we were roommates for four years up in New England.
Speaker 10: But I remember going into Springs, you know, early in
Speaker 10: my career, I'm you know, I'm a very competitive guy,
Speaker 10: trying to keep up with Joe and and like the
Speaker 10: conditioning and the different athletic tests, and then going into
Speaker 10: my third year, I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 10: gonna let that one go. This guy's this guy's are
Speaker 10: free and one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen,
Speaker 10: and one of the most consistent winners in any type
Speaker 10: of sport that I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Really, ye see that that's what people don't understand realize
Speaker 3: is that offensive linemen. I mean the skill set, you know, techniques,
Speaker 3: fundamentals we talked about a little bit, but the athletic
Speaker 3: skill set that you have to have to execute those
Speaker 3: techniques for fundamentals, it's it's different. There's not a whole
Speaker 3: lot of people walking around on the face of the
Speaker 3: earth that you know, can can fulfill those And.
Speaker 4: I always say that about NFL tackle.
Speaker 10: I always joke there's about one hundred and twenty guys
Speaker 10: in the whole world who can really do it. So
Speaker 10: we the NFL finds him though, But it's a that's
Speaker 10: a that's that's a tough position.
Speaker 3: It is it is. And uh man, my good friend Anthony,
Speaker 3: you know, Hall of Famer himself. I mean he was
Speaker 3: like the fifth pick of the draft coming out of college,
Speaker 3: coming out of USC. Everybody expected and projected to him
Speaker 3: that he would be, you know, a tremendous player in
Speaker 3: the National Football League.
Speaker 4: What a good man he is too?
Speaker 3: Oh he is man. I mean he's solid as a
Speaker 3: rock and in every phase of his life. Great family man,
Speaker 3: you know, as well as a teammate. And I mean
Speaker 3: you make bonds with Anthony and they last forever. Who
Speaker 3: was who was the coach? Well, you already said Dante
Speaker 3: is the guy that that that you know, gave you
Speaker 3: your the fundamentals and the techniques to lead you to
Speaker 3: a higher level in the National Football League. But what
Speaker 3: teammate and or opponent taught you the most about the
Speaker 3: game in terms of techniques and fundamentals.
Speaker 4: Techniques and fundamentals, you know.
Speaker 10: I I always had a ton of respect for David Andrews,
Speaker 10: but I couldn't say that he taught me the fundamentals.
Speaker 10: I mean we were both you know, learning from scar
Speaker 10: back then obviously Tom Brady. Just to even see him
Speaker 10: operate was so invaluable in my life. And I'm still
Speaker 10: thinking about a lot of what he had to say
Speaker 10: and how he had to say it.
Speaker 3: Not just getting ready to play the quarterback position, but
Speaker 3: just football in generally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is general intensity towards there you go.
Speaker 10: I I always used to joke, you know, up there
Speaker 10: it was like a it's almost like a sick obsession
Speaker 10: with achieving victory and really had to go really hard.
Speaker 4: And that was a lot of lessons I learned from
Speaker 4: that and we did win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
Speaker 10: You know, other than that, you know, I've had so
Speaker 10: many great teammates. Ryan Fitzpatrick really is probably my favorite
Speaker 10: teammate of all.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had such a fun year.
Speaker 10: COVID in South Florida, had a great Miami team ten
Speaker 10: and six, missed the playoffs. Actually weird, weird year, weird year,
Speaker 10: but had a great time. Still have a bunch of
Speaker 10: friends down there and live down there in the offseason.
Speaker 3: So so, could you see yourself potentially coaching when you're
Speaker 3: done playing football?
Speaker 4: Definitely?
Speaker 10: You know, I'm open to anything, you know, I think
Speaker 10: I do love the game, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know what my like is. Life is going
Speaker 4: to look like. I'm going to be open to any opportunity.
Speaker 10: And but I do know that at some at some
Speaker 10: junction in my life, I do want to be involved
Speaker 10: with the game.
Speaker 4: So that's exciting, But not yet. Maybe I'm a player still, You're.
Speaker 3: Still a player, and you're still a heck of a player.
Speaker 3: There's there's no question about that. We're going to take
Speaker 3: a little bit of a time out here. We're going
Speaker 3: to step aside. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Well, back, we're at this, You're
Speaker 3: listening right now on on ESPN fifteen thirty the Bengals
Speaker 3: Game Plan Show, and we uh, every single Wednesday, we're
Speaker 3: at a different location. This week we're on the West
Speaker 3: Side and we're here with Ted Caris who west side
Speaker 3: best side right to them. Absolutely, that's that's the way.
Speaker 10: That's side Cincinnati, the Great Mike Mets and Metscore is
Speaker 10: not too far from here. If anybody in the crowd
Speaker 10: knows Metscore, it's one of the most extraordinary places I've
Speaker 10: ever been.
Speaker 4: It's an old it's an old hospital.
Speaker 10: Actually they can basically the best way to describe it
Speaker 10: is a kind of converted into a college campus. It's
Speaker 10: an adult day care for adults with disabilities, and they
Speaker 10: got a coffee shop, different h opportunities for the kids,
Speaker 10: different classes.
Speaker 4: I pop in.
Speaker 10: They do a lot of Disney scene it. I don't
Speaker 10: know if you ever played that game. It's a game
Speaker 10: on the DVD. You got to guess the movie and
Speaker 10: they're really good. So I can hold my own though.
Speaker 10: But there's there's a bunch of stuff and it's uh,
Speaker 10: he's a Dynamo, West Side Dynamo, Mike Mets.
Speaker 3: Mike Metska so I'm looking at your hat since he had,
Speaker 3: how about a hand for Ted Carris's foundation. Thank you
Speaker 3: you guys. You're doing a lot of great things here
Speaker 3: in the city of Cincinnati, in the community and the
Speaker 3: region in general. What is it? Why? Why did Ted
Speaker 3: Krris feel like I want to give back to the community.
Speaker 3: I want to be a community leader. H I'm I'm
Speaker 3: proud of what my family is all about. What I'm
Speaker 3: all about. This is our home, this is our community.
Speaker 3: Why do you want to give back so badly?
Speaker 10: Well, I've always been involved with adults of intellectual disabilities.
Speaker 4: Through the village of Mariici growing up.
Speaker 10: But it's I didn't set out to be some big philanthropists,
Speaker 10: you know. I gave money every year to charity and
Speaker 10: that's that's I think about that a lot.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 10: How the since he had organically came to be and
Speaker 10: really was adopted by this whole town and we're able
Speaker 10: to do something special and thank you to everyone who's
Speaker 10: you know, bought a hat and it's a Cincinnati community thing,
Speaker 10: and that's why we're bringing it to Cincinnati. So we
Speaker 10: got some big projects coming up, most notably in Madisonville
Speaker 10: here soon hopefully getting this, this ground broken I tell
Speaker 10: you what real estate development though man goes a little slow.
Speaker 4: For my taste in time.
Speaker 10: I want to get an I know, I want to
Speaker 10: get this thing going, but uh, you know, I pray
Speaker 10: often not to squander any opportunities that come my way.
Speaker 10: And feel that since he had, you know, chose me,
Speaker 10: I was you know, chosen to do it, and so
Speaker 10: I take it as the most serious thing in my life.
Speaker 10: It's my life's mission and I'll never relent on building
Speaker 10: infrastructure and creating the most favorable ecosystem.
Speaker 4: For adults with intellectual disabilities the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: I know your wife's all in as well. Your wife's
Speaker 3: a tremendous support system for you, isn't she? She is?
Speaker 10: My wife is amazing. My wife Rachel, and my daughter Penelope.
Speaker 10: She's eighteen months old, Alopie, she's.
Speaker 3: In eighteen months, year and a half.
Speaker 4: She's in the jungle.
Speaker 10: She usually makes it toll like right after halftime, time
Speaker 10: to get you go.
Speaker 4: It's it gets there's there's quite a buzz going on
Speaker 4: the jungle. I want to get her out before it
Speaker 4: really gets jungly.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. So let's talk about uh,
Speaker 3: not not just the upcoming game. We've talked about that
Speaker 3: for quite a while here, bantered about, uh, all different aspects, matchups,
Speaker 3: all that sort of thing against the Jets. What about
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. Uh, this football team, you
Speaker 3: guys are right in the hunt three and four record.
Speaker 3: There's in the AC North. The only team that has
Speaker 3: got a better record than you is a team that
Speaker 3: you just beat, I mean this past weekend to give
Speaker 3: them their second their second loss. So what do you think,
Speaker 3: I mean, how are guys in the locker room? How
Speaker 3: did they react to that that victory? First? And then
Speaker 3: what do they think about the rest of the season.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was greats get a win, get
Speaker 10: a small weekend off, recharge the batteries, and really get
Speaker 10: back to where we want to be, which is, you know,
Speaker 10: putting notches in the left hand columns. So we got
Speaker 10: a big one coming up to even it up, and
Speaker 10: then we got one more before the bye to going
Speaker 10: with the winning record. So all eyes are on the Jets,
Speaker 10: all effort on the Jets. That's all we're thinking about
Speaker 10: for the next five days.
Speaker 3: So you had a mini bye week, uh, and you
Speaker 3: had a victory before that mini bye week. How important
Speaker 3: is it you have a win before the bye I
Speaker 3: remember as a player back in the day in the
Speaker 3: seventies and eighties, to get a win before that bye
Speaker 3: week and have that bye week to you know, it's
Speaker 3: a celebratory time. But you know, man, now we can
Speaker 3: start to string some together. Let's put some wins together
Speaker 3: and really get in the hunt here and make some noise.
Speaker 10: I think if you win and lose any game, it
Speaker 10: just determines your quality of life for the next week
Speaker 10: until you get a chance again. So you know, right,
Speaker 10: if we didn't went on Thursday, I'm probably not here
Speaker 10: at Champions on the West Side talking about the Bengals.
Speaker 10: So you know, there's a lot of things you can
Speaker 10: do when you can win, but you can't remember how
Speaker 10: you got there, and you got to go get it
Speaker 10: again because it's very fleeting feeling and you know it's over.
Speaker 4: So it's Jets week.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Scott Peters, your offensive line coach. Very
Speaker 3: talented man. In gotten to know him a little bit.
Speaker 3: His techniques I think are incredible. You know, he's a
Speaker 3: he's a leverage guy, martial arts guy. UH footwork is
Speaker 3: is key and uh instrumental in his techniques and fundamentals
Speaker 3: that he's teaching. How good a line coaches this dude,
Speaker 3: he's been great.
Speaker 4: Him and Mike McCarthy have been putting us in good positions.
Speaker 10: So we've had you know, great meetings, great instaults, and
Speaker 10: he's you know, scheming us upright. So you know, he's
Speaker 10: got a big task ahead of him with you know,
Speaker 10: we have two rookie guards out there and uh and
Speaker 10: I think he's been doing a great job. And then
Speaker 10: we have a great veteran room between Lucas me Orlando,
Speaker 10: even throwing Mimsey in there as a leader.
Speaker 4: Of the room. So you know, we gotta keep going.
Speaker 10: We got to keep stringing good, good games together and
Speaker 10: we got a good front coming in. So it's gonna
Speaker 10: take our best effort Sunday at one.
Speaker 3: Leadership leaders the award you just put out there. You
Speaker 3: can never have enough leadership on a football team. I
Speaker 3: think the Bengals are blessed with having leaders at just
Speaker 3: about every position group on the football team. There are
Speaker 3: players that step up and you know, assume a leadership
Speaker 3: position in every single one of those position groups.
Speaker 4: What do you think I think?
Speaker 10: You know, I think one thing about the Bengals organization
Speaker 10: is we have just such high quality men around offense, defense,
Speaker 10: special teams. A lot of people want to do things
Speaker 10: the right way. And you know it is you can
Speaker 10: never have too many leaders because they can't just it's
Speaker 10: not just one voice.
Speaker 4: But it can never be just one voice.
Speaker 10: It's a it's a collective effort. That's a great thing
Speaker 10: about American football.
Speaker 3: Ted Carris and Dave lappam on the West Side. Yeah, folks,
Speaker 3: it's the best side. We're here till eight o'clock and
Speaker 3: it's time for another break. This is the Bengals Game
Speaker 3: Plan Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. Back once again to
Speaker 3: champions on the West Side. I'm here with Ted Harris,
Speaker 3: my man, the great Ted Carris. I should say so,
Speaker 3: as you're getting ready for this New York Jets football team,
Speaker 3: there's always keys to success. You guys do a lot
Speaker 3: of studying, tape, preparation, game planning, everything that goes along
Speaker 3: with it. What are the keys to victory? What do
Speaker 3: you have to do to beat the Jets?
Speaker 10: You know, I think the number one key to victory
Speaker 10: in any game is, you know, not turn the ball over.
Speaker 4: Yep, so plus over the turnover margin.
Speaker 10: I think in this game, specifically for our task, we
Speaker 10: got to neutralize their front seven. Their best player, Quinn Williams,
Speaker 10: very good player. They have a good defensive front. We
Speaker 10: have to, you know, be able to run the ball
Speaker 10: protect and I think in the passing game, getting the
Speaker 10: ball on time and like I said, run game hat
Speaker 10: and a hat, get the ball downhill if I think,
Speaker 10: not turn the ball over, neutralize the front and the
Speaker 10: two biggest factors in the winning this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that turnover Deal'd love to see you guys
Speaker 3: be plus one plus two. I mean sometimes plus one
Speaker 3: is not quite you know, enough of a differential, but
Speaker 3: you start getting up in the plus two plus three.
Speaker 10: Even the statistics are staggering when you look at turnover turnovers,
Speaker 10: like winning percentage because of turnover differential.
Speaker 3: So it is, I mean, that's that's probably the biggest
Speaker 3: key to success at any level, high school, college or NFL.
Speaker 3: You're coaching your dad's coaching. Tell us about the coaching
Speaker 3: tree in the Karris family.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, my my whole family has been football players
Speaker 10: and football coaches. Awes, my father, Ted Terrris Junior, he's
Speaker 10: the head football coach at Marion University on the west
Speaker 10: side of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: And they're killing it, aren't They're killing it.
Speaker 4: They're number eight in the country.
Speaker 10: They got they got a big game this this weekend
Speaker 10: up in bourbon A, Illinois.
Speaker 3: Excellent.
Speaker 4: And you know, the guys are great.
Speaker 10: I have a great relationship with you know, all the players,
Speaker 10: all the coaches.
Speaker 4: It's really a lot of fun. I wear my marrying stuff.
Speaker 4: I got a maryon hats, I got it all with him.
Speaker 4: So it's all. It was always my One of my
Speaker 4: favorite things, you know, growing up is coaching with dads.
Speaker 3: So what about your granddad did you did your grandfather coach?
Speaker 3: Was her coach?
Speaker 10: He did coach coach. He coached with my father too
Speaker 10: on some of his staffs. So my uncles as well,
Speaker 10: and you know, they were always you know, that first
Speaker 10: generation of Karris has had a lot of different jobs,
Speaker 10: but which was definitely one of them.
Speaker 3: That's spectacular. Spectacular, my man. Well, we're gonna wrap it up, Ted,
Speaker 3: I mean I can't. I could do this with you
Speaker 3: till midnight, at least seven o'clock, but we are. We're
Speaker 3: getting out here. And you were outstanding. I knew you
Speaker 3: would be you're a spectacular guest. Your your solid gold,
Speaker 3: you're gold plated, You're you're an honorary Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: guest here.
Speaker 4: Well you're the man. And we didn't even get to
Speaker 4: touch on ring of Honor.
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 10: Wow, ye telling me I'm the Hall of Famer. You're
Speaker 10: going up on the stadium, sir, So congratulations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be pick for my grandkids. Man, I
Speaker 3: feel happy for them. They're all excited and I'll tell
Speaker 3: you they can't sleep at night. It's it's crazy. So
Speaker 3: it's cion our time. It's time to say goodbye from
Speaker 3: Champions on the West Side. And this is the Bengals
Speaker 3: Game Plan Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good night, everybody,
Speaker 3: Safe travels, Safe travels, my man.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. Love you since cal.
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