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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mannon show. You like it, you

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Speaker 1: love it? You want more of it? Follow me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Mark Madden x. I told this story yesterday

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Speaker 1: about Flurry starting as an eighteen year old the home open,

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Speaker 1: three forty six saves stopped the penalty shot. Peng was

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Speaker 1: lost to LA three nil. But nobody remembers that. They

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Speaker 1: just remember that a star was born. Do you know

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Speaker 1: that moment almost didn't happen. Craig Patrick, the GM totally

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Speaker 1: hockey first. He wanted to send Flurry back to juniors

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Speaker 1: right then and there, which Flurry eventually did go back,

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Speaker 1: you know, before his first year of his NHL contract

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Speaker 1: kicked in. But Craig want him to start the season

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Speaker 1: in juniors, and Ken Sawyer, the president at the time,

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Speaker 1: and Mary Lemue the owner, said okay, wait, this kid

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Speaker 1: was the first pick overall, We've invested a lot of hype.

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Speaker 1: He has the ability. He can't start the season in junior.

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Speaker 1: He got to start the season here because Ken, Sore

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Speaker 1: and Mario understood that you're in the entertainment business, and

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Speaker 1: that created a moment. When they have a chance to

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Speaker 1: create a moment, the last people you should listen to

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Speaker 1: are your hockey people, like I said, follow me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Mark Madden X. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: other exciting stuff with the Penguins hosting the Caps tonight.

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Speaker 1: OV did score number nine hundred last night. Did you

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Speaker 1: see Jordan Binnington try to steal the puck the goalie

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Speaker 1: for the Blues. He tucked the puck in his pants

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Speaker 1: and they made him give it up. Kind of a

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Speaker 1: heel move, but kind of funny too, when he should

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Speaker 1: have thrown the puck in the stands. Then you would

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Speaker 1: have never known if you got the right puck back

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Speaker 1: unless they I don't know, marked it with that for rand.

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Speaker 1: They do stuff like that for home run balls and

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Speaker 1: maybe big goldpucks, but I don't know that seems too

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Speaker 1: forward thinking for the NHL. You got Ben Kendall playing

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stuff to watch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Graves in the lineup, Danton Hinen in

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Speaker 1: the lineup, called back up from Wilkes. But let's bring

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Speaker 1: on Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they're not starting more shoff. What good

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Speaker 1: reason could there possibly be. I've tried to think of

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Speaker 1: it from their end of the equation, and the only

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Speaker 1: thing I could come up with is just sticking with

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Speaker 1: this goalie rotation, which I'm sorry, just should not be

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Speaker 3: I'd love to be able to come on and play

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Speaker 3: Devil's Advocate to you and find some reasons why it's

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Speaker 3: smart other than that. Just we're sticking to the rotation

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Speaker 3: one and that's the only reason it could be. That's

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Speaker 3: the only logical reason you could present, and it's not

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Speaker 3: even that logical, Like she loves was so great against

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Speaker 3: stick with that rotation or else it could throw him

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Speaker 3: off of his game. Uh, it's such a dumb move,

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Speaker 3: and it.

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Speaker 1: Really self is lucky to be in the National friggin

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Speaker 1: Hockey League. If he's not easily thrown off his game, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: To Wilkson called I don't know Lars enough and Penn's

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Speaker 3: Caps always has buzz because Sid over. Yeah, but this

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Speaker 3: game just lost so much buzz to me tonight. It

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Speaker 3: feels a little deflating right now because of the decision.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: I don't care half as much about Kindle on Sid's line.

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Speaker 2: You know, Graves and Heinen.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories tonight, but this just I'm

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Speaker 1: really disappointed, and I'm sure fans with tickets are disappointed.

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Speaker 1: And I think the pens have been hypnotized by that

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Speaker 1: eight four and two star, which let's not forget it's

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Speaker 1: eight wins and six losses. I always say the shootout

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Speaker 1: losses and the overtime losses their losses. Yes, you gotta

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Speaker 1: they think, Okay, we gotta maintain, we gotta prop up.

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Speaker 1: But then again, if you're looking to maintain and prop up,

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt the morishoff right second is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that prop up part, Like, Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: like your eight four and two start, shoot a little

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Speaker 2: And if it don't work, it don't work.

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Speaker 3: So why it doesn't work. He's probably going back to

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know the Jarr's out three weeks, three weeks, right,

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Speaker 3: Don I probably tell Jarry to go through unless she

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Speaker 3: LOFs is just terrible as the rotation.

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Speaker 1: I think more SHOT's gonna go back no matter what,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna get me mad all over again.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I think that that's probably where we're headed.

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Speaker 3: So even furthermore, why not just play him tonight?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 3: Like if the end road is to go back to

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Speaker 3: the AHL anyway, who cares about the light?

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Speaker 1: And I keep getting told Tom, you know, by Twitter

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Speaker 1: and some other people, this is no big deal. I'm overreacting, okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean nobody understands this team better than me. I've

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Speaker 1: my team too, and I know what it's built on.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Kylin Muse understand that. I think

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Speaker 1: Kyle's a great GM. I think News is a pretty

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Speaker 1: good coach, but I don't think they understand the market.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they understand this team's DNA, and.

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Speaker 3: I think that vocal minority, and I think it is

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Speaker 3: a vocal minority who are giving you stick on Twitter

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Speaker 3: for it. Do they get who morishov is? Do you think,

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Speaker 3: like do they understand just how good in the prospect

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there who were just

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Speaker 3: The team is always right no matter what, Like this

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Speaker 3: dude is a stud prospect. You were saying on the

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Speaker 3: win the Vezina one day, Like he's got that kind

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Speaker 3: type prospect. He's not gonna be flurry. I would never

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Speaker 3: put that on him, but this is a flurry type

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Speaker 2: You don't gives me even matter.

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Speaker 1: I bet the Penguins didn't even sweat this decision or

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Speaker 1: think about it very much, or certainly not think about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I think it was the default.

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Speaker 3: again as deflating as it is to have Mirishov not

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Speaker 3: get against New Jersey on Saturday at twelve thirty. That's

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a boring snoozer too, Like it

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm wrong there, but I wrote

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Speaker 1: to my trip column. I wrote that they needed to

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Speaker 1: start Morishov, which they didn't sow so much for them

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Speaker 1: reading and then listening to what I wrote in the

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Speaker 1: trib But I put, I put, nobody remembers what happens

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Speaker 1: midday at Newark unless Tony Soprano gets whacked exactly.

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Speaker 3: And I mean even in your own fan base, the

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Speaker 3: Penguin's like well eyes on the TV. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: college football Saturday too, Like there there's going to be

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Speaker 3: some distraction. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: Morisof can put just shut out at Newark and it's

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Speaker 1: on TV. It's distant, there's no sense of community. You

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Speaker 2: It's not the same.

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Speaker 3: And what if they go to she loves against the

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Speaker 3: Devil's back to back games and then play against the

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Speaker 3: Kings at home on that back to back game, Like,

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Speaker 3: I would lose my mind even more because then it

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Speaker 3: would show that they don't really care about the rotation

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Speaker 3: and it wasn't about the rotation to not start Morrishov

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Speaker 3: this game tonight, Tom.

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Speaker 1: I watched the Penguins my whole life. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the stupidest moves they've ever made. Wow, and imagine

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Speaker 1: you know what ground that covers, My god, and you

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Speaker 1: know what about the fans who have tickets who thought

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Speaker 1: they stumbled onto something special. And you know, if they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have generated a ton more ticket sales. Even if

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Speaker 1: they announced it this morning, it wouldn't generate a ton

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Speaker 1: more walk ups. Bit a big game, my Morischov serves

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Speaker 1: notice and it gives the people who are there a

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Speaker 1: I was there when Flurry played his first game.

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Speaker 3: They kind of got to take a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a page out of the Pirates playbook here right, and

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Speaker 3: how they build up you know, a Skeen's day. They

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Speaker 3: didn't do it this year, but for example, like what

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Speaker 1: This reminds me or reminded the guy tweeted, And I

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Speaker 1: agree of when the Pirates and Tigers played that double

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Speaker 1: good chance of winning at least the one game, and

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Speaker 1: totally ignored the entertainment value.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it happened again last year too with Otani.

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Speaker 3: Remember there was a chance for Skeens in Otanni to

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Speaker 3: run up against each other's starting as pitchers, and then

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers bumped OTWNI to like some game in Baltimore

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Speaker 3: later in the week. There is no sense for showbiz

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Speaker 3: anymore across sports. But like I say, with the Pirates,

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Speaker 3: like they get that buzz from like this great prospects debut,

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Speaker 3: come out to the ballpark, let's get a sellout and

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Speaker 3: more schemes to be But you know what I'm saying like,

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Speaker 3: you could have still fed into that a little bit

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Speaker 3: and you could have gotten You wouldn't have sold out

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Speaker 3: the barn, but you could have gotten more tickets.

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Speaker 2: It's nice on national TV too.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a showcase game on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have.

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Speaker 1: Been a real coming out party for this kid. And

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Speaker 1: if he fails, well sometimes you fail. But again, to

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Speaker 1: quote the great Bruce Arians, no risk it, no biscuit Tom.

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Speaker 2: This has me so mad. I want to talk football,

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Speaker 2: which we will do.

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Speaker 1: We got some great Ben sound the sound he talked

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Speaker 1: about Kendrick creen what the Steelers gave Rogers now and

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Speaker 1: what the Steelers gave Ben and his last year.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty funny stuff that's just around the corner.

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Speaker 1: I want to five to nine one of them. Here's

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Speaker 1: a great SoundBite from once Again today, the Ben Roethlisberger podcast.

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Speaker 2: I do love the Big Ben Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's been basically complaining that the Steelers have given Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers more to work with now than the Steelers gave

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Speaker 1: Ben to work with in the last year of his career.

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Speaker 1: I still think it's funny because like, they given Aaron

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about Kendrick Green.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Kendrick tweeted about catching Stray's lol.

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Speaker 1: Green was the third round pick in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Any hoodles.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 2: Let's be blunt.

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Speaker 1: Ben likes to complain, be passive, aggressive, and hear himself talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree. But it was pretty dumb of

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Speaker 1: Probably just a bad third round pick period period, probably,

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Speaker 3: It was just a bad draft pick. But yeah, Ben,

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Speaker 3: you don't need to be petty anymore. That petty at

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna cut you off right there. I enjoy

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Speaker 1: Ben's pettiness. Ben and Ben. Ben's always been that way.

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Speaker 2: To bitch and moan.

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Speaker 3: I just like it.

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Speaker 2: He's my guy, he was my neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Get somebody to help me now, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little legit pissed to it now in hindsight,

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Speaker 3: because Mason Rudolph was not the future of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Another third round pick.

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Speaker 3: Again, he can't get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go over some of the picks that

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Speaker 1: Like you look at the fourth round picks, because that's

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Speaker 3: Right to get Jacoby Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Meyer from from Las Vegas. The receiver like the

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Speaker 1: last five fourth round picks. I mean they were like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Not a Pro Bowl or not at all.

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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if he reaches all pro level, that's

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Speaker 1: Well right, but so I'd be willing to trade him

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Speaker 3: Now, without question, you don't have to convince me. I

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Speaker 3: many examples of teams being very aggress with their trade

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Speaker 3: a buying Are they, you know, behind the eight ball? No,

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Speaker 2: Again, they're pretty good. It air is a better question.

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Speaker 1: Have the Steelers done enough to help Aaron Rodgers now,

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Speaker 3: I would love to know how he really feels about that,

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Speaker 3: because he has put up numbers and has played to

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Speaker 1: I'd like to share some maayahuasca with with Rogers, sit

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Speaker 3: I think he would have loved Jacoby Meyer to be

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Speaker 2: That was weird.

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Speaker 3: Because he kept saying, like this guy next to me,

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Speaker 3: he referenced Rogers without actually saying his name. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: What's difficult to fathom that the Steelers signed a top

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Speaker 3: Third because I think he has to like Calvin Austin

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Speaker 3: I think he just actually does like Darnell Washington. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more than a big of He's a big

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Speaker 1: oaf that can I mean get in the way. But

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Speaker 3: And they burned it down. So I mean, like you

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Speaker 3: Even they just be like, hey, can you just cut

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Speaker 1: But I think it's good that Rogers has had minimal

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Speaker 3: Correct. But I think he should have had impact on

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Speaker 3: the roster indirectly, just based on how he's played and

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Speaker 3: how there's such an obvious need to get him another weapon.

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Speaker 3: Do you think getting that secondary wide receiver would help

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Speaker 3: DK two, who's kind of been stuck in mud lately.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just really disappointed.

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Speaker 3: There's no one to take coverage away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think taking coverage away would would

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Speaker 3: He drops, he drops it. That's a great point. He

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Speaker 2: Not just him, I mean Darnold Washington drops balls.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Smith dropped the first pass of the game. He

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Speaker 1: I meant he's pissed, but how pissed? And John Hub,

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Speaker 3: That was his moment, that was his big impact play.

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Speaker 1: To me, let's stay with that, Tom, because I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest mystery of this Dealer season to date is

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Speaker 3: You know, It's funny at the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 3: don't you think all of the tight ends were kind

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Speaker 3: these tight ends going to fit in other than Darnell

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Speaker 3: And then Darnell's started to develop his and Pats kind

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Speaker 3: They just have too much, right, too many tight ends.

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Speaker 3: They're fine with Darnell and Pat Friarmouth or Darnell or

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Speaker 1: I think they've won too many tight ends Cooks. What

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Speaker 1: they got Ramsey. Then again, I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 1: target him more than they are. If Ramsey has safety

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Speaker 1: is and upgrade over Minca. Although the Dolphins were trying

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, Like if Ramsey doesn't get takeaways,

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Speaker 3: six weeks, it's just, hey, he's got everybody buttoned up. Hey,

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Speaker 3: he make sure that the big play doesn't happen. That's

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Speaker 3: what Menca was doing for the past two Years' tick

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Speaker 1: You know what I really liked about Ramsey though, for

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Speaker 1: He's deceptively tough, yep, And I really think he can

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Speaker 1: make that transition to safety like Woodson did. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: Don't you think the toughness is such a crucial part

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Speaker 3: the willingness to be in run support, because that's part

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Speaker 3: the lumber. And You're right about Ramsey. He hits hard,

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Speaker 3: he's willing to hit. I think he can be a

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Speaker 3: very good safety in this league. Probably not an All

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Speaker 3: Pro like Rod got to be, but I think he'd

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Speaker 3: be pretty good. I'm not even rolling out all pro

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Speaker 3: he's got a great football mind, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I think having played cover corner, it gives him a

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Speaker 3: you a little surprised that, you know, a career outside

440
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Speaker 3: corner probably going to go to the Hall of Fame

441
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Speaker 3: multiple All pros, is so willing to make this transition,

442
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 3: like he feels like he's, you know, putting minimal resistance

443
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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 1: I think that game he had trying to cover Jamar

445
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Speaker 1: Chase when the Steelers got beat by Cincinnati may have

446
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 1: made him see the lights one oh five nine The

447
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Speaker 1: X It's The.

448
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Speaker 3: Woody Show weekday mornings at six on the Hey.

449
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Speaker 1: It's Max Starks for the bet Park's online casino and

450
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: sportsbook cap where there's always another way to win.

451
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Speaker 2: A lot of sidebars with the Steelers going on.

452
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Speaker 1: Mark Cabali from the Pat McAfee Show said, omar Con

453
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Speaker 1: the GM that that Con was working his ass off

454
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Speaker 1: unquote at the trade deadline. I mean, blah blah blah.

455
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Speaker 1: Either got somebody or you didn't. Mike Frable, the new

456
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Speaker 1: England coach, somebody asked him if the Patriots were close

457
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Speaker 1: to making deals, and he said, making a trade is

458
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Speaker 1: like being pregnant.

459
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Speaker 2: You either are or you aren't. Ray fit Depalter from

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Speaker 2: the PG.

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Speaker 1: Said, a lot of the Steelers players want the Steelers

462
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Speaker 1: to keep the changes they used on defense against the Colts.

463
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Speaker 1: You know, the four to three mutation, the stuff with

464
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Speaker 1: the inside and outside backers that I one hundred percent believe,

465
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Speaker 1: and I think they should keep doing a lot of that.

466
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Speaker 1: The Steelers are reportedly gonna meet with assante Samuel Junior.

467
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Speaker 1: I see different stories, meet with them, work them out

468
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Speaker 1: the free agent cornerback, because why wouldn't any team want

469
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Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't played even one game in the

470
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Speaker 1: NFL this year? That said, he started forty seven games

471
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Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last four years, went on

472
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Speaker 1: ir last year after four games with his shoulder injury.

473
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Speaker 1: Played his whole career with the LA Chargers. He's only

474
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Speaker 1: twenty six, and I know, I know, I know for

475
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Speaker 1: sure he's better than Darius Slay. But I hate recycle

476
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Speaker 1: cling going through the dumpster. And Samwell's gonna meet with

477
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Speaker 1: a bunch of other teams too. Is it Samuell or

478
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Speaker 1: Samuel I pronounced? I used both just in case Tom.

479
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Speaker 2: What is it?

480
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Speaker 3: Samuel A Sante? Samuel Jr?

481
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Speaker 2: Any good?

482
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Speaker 3: He's okay. I don't know if I would go after him. Plus,

483
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Speaker 3: he's on like the Ben Affleck Goodwill Hunting Tour, where

484
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Speaker 3: he's like going around to all the places. You know,

485
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Speaker 3: he was going around to all the businesses that were

486
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Speaker 3: trying to entertain Will Hunting. Like he's just going on tour.

487
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Speaker 3: So I think other teams are gonna snap him up.

488
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Speaker 3: There's better options out there than the Steelers for players

489
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Speaker 3: to jump on with, Like I saw, the Packers are

490
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Speaker 3: one of them. Won't you much rather be a Packer?

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends what your prospects are to play to

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Speaker 1: get on the field.

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Speaker 3: It's a good point. I guess I still think I

494
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Speaker 3: would much rather be a packer or on a team

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Speaker 3: that is probably going to greater heights than the Steelers are.

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Speaker 2: And Tom and.

497
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Speaker 1: Will never bench Darius Slay vetering respect they need Darius

498
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Speaker 1: Slay to get.

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Speaker 3: Hurt unless you don't see another veteran like Samuel coming in,

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Speaker 3: and then maybe that's an avenue to benching Sleigh just

501
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Speaker 3: because it's a vet being benched for another vet.

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Speaker 1: I think that they correspond what they're paying somebody to

503
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Speaker 1: opportunity they feel required to give him, and they're paying

504
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Speaker 1: Darius Lay ten million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's my biggest worry when it comes to this transition

506
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Speaker 3: from Jalen Ramsey to corner to safety, is now that

507
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Speaker 3: outside corner in the I don't want to say hole

508
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Speaker 3: that Ramsey leaves there, because it's not like Ramsey was

509
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Speaker 3: playing that great at outside corner anyway. But he was

510
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Speaker 3: a lot better than Darius Slay and he seems to

511
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Speaker 3: be the most obvious option and the option that they're

512
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Speaker 3: most willing to put out there, and he's just cooked,

513
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Speaker 3: he's done. It's gonna hurt them badly.

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Speaker 1: They're playing Cincinnati and in a couple weeks, but I think

515
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Speaker 1: their game plan will be to cover Jamar Chase then,

516
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Speaker 1: since Ramsey got frick aside by Chase the last time

517
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Speaker 1: the team's played, I.

518
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Speaker 3: Have no idea, hope, pray, I have no idea what

519
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Speaker 3: their plan would be. I bet you they put Porter

520
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Speaker 3: on t Higgins again, because they just, for whatever reason,

521
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Speaker 3: love that strategy that never works and always blows up

522
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Speaker 3: in their face. It have to be like double and

523
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Speaker 3: triple team. Maybe Ramsey will still be on Chase a lot,

524
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Speaker 3: but he'll be like the help on Chase this time

525
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Speaker 3: instead of the main coverage.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they'll keep Ramsey in safety? I bet

527
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Speaker 2: they put him back at corner.

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Speaker 1: I think the most obvious thing to do is keep

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Speaker 1: it with safety, and they won't.

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Speaker 3: I think that there will be some things exposed on

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Speaker 3: the outside because of how bad Sleigh is that they'll

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Speaker 3: be tempted to move Ramsey back into that spot. He

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Speaker 3: needs to play safety and he needs to creep down

534
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Speaker 3: into that slot role every once in a while. Other

535
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Speaker 3: than that, he cannot go outside.

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Speaker 1: Here we are after eight games, and we're talking about

537
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Speaker 1: holes they still need to fill, you know, by Hooker Crook,

538
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Speaker 1: you know, smoking mirrors do it somehow, and they did

539
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Speaker 1: nothing at the deadline.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean, Like a corner and a wide

541
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Speaker 3: receiver were just kind of such glaring needs in your face.

542
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Speaker 3: Especially with the Ramsey transition happening. It's such a big

543
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Speaker 3: miss to not go and improve in those two rooms.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I said before the deadline Tom that that

545
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Speaker 1: safety and or cornerback, depending on where you play Ramsey

546
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Speaker 1: was a bigger need than wide out. You don't get

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Speaker 1: buy it wide out, yeah, you know, because you got

548
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Speaker 1: all them tight ends. I mean, it all goes to

549
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Speaker 1: crap if DK gets hurt exactly. That's a slightly different conversation,

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Speaker 1: but as constructed right now, if healthy, you can assemb well,

551
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Speaker 1: you know, a good receiving corps again, including the tight ends.

552
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Speaker 1: Although you know, like I said, their stats are way down.

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Speaker 1: Their receiving stats, it's a joke. Rogers has a bunch

554
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Speaker 1: of touchdowns and he has spread the ball around, so

555
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Speaker 1: his yards aren't bad. But ain't nobody excelling. DK even

556
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Speaker 1: isn't excelling, doesn't have those numbers.

557
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Speaker 3: Now, No one in the receiving corp is excelling. None

558
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Speaker 3: of the tight ends, none of the wide receivers backs

559
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Speaker 3: out of the backfield aren't even excelling anymore. Remember they

560
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Speaker 3: were at the beginning of the season. Especially Warren out

561
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Speaker 3: of the backfield was such a threat. Haven't seen that

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Speaker 3: much in recent weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well, my point is that you can get by with

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Speaker 1: the receivers, you can't get by with their defensive backfield.

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Speaker 1: Their defensive backfield, even with everybody healthy, isn't good enough.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree, and it's just that one outside corner spot.

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Speaker 3: I really think if you would have got not a Sauce,

568
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Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't have turned down a sauce and

569
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Speaker 3: turned off that trade completely. But any upgrade from Sleigh

570
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Speaker 3: on the outside, and I think that defensive backfield does

571
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Speaker 3: start to fit together nicely. Because Ecles was a real

572
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Speaker 3: good slot. He was brought here initially to play that slot.

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Speaker 3: I have no worries about him sliding into that role

574
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Speaker 3: for Ramsey, it's all about the outside second corner.

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Speaker 1: The Mark Madden pregame show brought to us by the

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Speaker 1: personal injury expert Schendorovia, T Schendorovic and Fishman, they got

577
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Speaker 1: your back, not your wallet.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: We talked Peen was before and totally got away from

580
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Speaker 1: anything but me being pissed about Morrishoff not playing tonight.

581
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. If they win tonight, it'll be

582
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Speaker 1: like they made the right decision. It's still not the

583
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: right decision. If they win tonight and then Morrishoff wins

584
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: at Jersey Saturday, it's still not the right decision. But

585
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Speaker 1: I gotta get off this tangent because it's driving me nuts.

586
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Speaker 1: How will Ben Kendall do on Sid's wing?

587
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Speaker 2: Do you think? I think it's a good fit.

588
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Speaker 1: I think, like I've said before, they will think things

589
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: the same. My only concern is how Kendall adjusts to wing,

590
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Speaker 1: because I think he's a better center.

591
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Speaker 3: I bet Kendall puts one in tonight off of Sid's assist.

592
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Speaker 3: Kendall's been heating up in his own right anyway, scoring

593
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Speaker 3: a lot of goals lately, so bet she puts one in.

594
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Speaker 2: I bet he scores a PPG for pg H.

595
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Speaker 3: Well, he's their best power play player. I think that

596
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Speaker 3: the Sid and Kindle looks will do really well, and

597
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Speaker 3: I hope that encourages them to kind of keep doing

598
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Speaker 3: it for a couple of games here moving forward. But

599
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Speaker 3: I still like I like the idea of Kindle on

600
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Speaker 3: Sid's wing, but he was so good as a center.

601
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Speaker 3: Do you want to give up the potential of him

602
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Speaker 3: being a center?

603
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Speaker 2: Maybe?

604
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Speaker 1: See I'm going back and forth with but you're not

605
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Speaker 1: doing it forever, right, That's true. A great center is

606
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Speaker 1: in along right, no question. You think that's the vision

607
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Speaker 1: just being done for Sid more than Kindle, although I

608
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Speaker 1: don't think Kindall's gonna mind.

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kendall's going to reap the rewards. Now.

610
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Speaker 3: The big thing, too, is can Heinen come up and

611
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Speaker 3: kind of do not to the level that he was

612
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Speaker 3: in Wilkes, but at least produced to some level on

613
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Speaker 3: that third line center.

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Speaker 1: He's in the habit of getting points at Wilkes. Maybe

615
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: you can carry that out. But over to his return

616
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Speaker 1: to the NHL, because, like Porky said yesterday, those guys

617
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Speaker 1: don't want to go back. I mean, Heinen is, Ryan

618
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Speaker 1: Graves is, But you got to make the most of

619
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Speaker 1: while you're here.

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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it looks like Graves will be

622
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Speaker 1: in the lineup tonight, that him and Connor Clifton will

623
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Speaker 1: be the third defense pair with Brunick and Dumbu being out,

624
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Speaker 1: and that just pushes the decision on Brunick, you know

625
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Speaker 1: whether to keep him or not down the road, I

626
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: guess for a couple more days. But I think Ryan

627
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Speaker 1: Graves could be better his prior stops Colorado and New Jersey.

628
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Speaker 1: They played a more defensive oriented system as opposed to

629
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Speaker 1: activating all the time like the Penguins defenseman did under

630
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Speaker 1: Sullivan and pinching all the time. Now the Penguins have

631
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: better defensive system. They pinch less, they're more selective, same

632
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: thing with activating. I think the way they play now

633
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: could benefit Graves. That said, he practiced in that system

634
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: and played exhibition games in that system in the preseason

635
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: and still got cut.

636
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, why was he so crap

637
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: then in the training camp and in the preseason games

638
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Speaker 3: playing in the damn use system. Maybe he gets a

639
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: little bit of a wake up call for riding the

640
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Speaker 3: bus and being in the minors for a month, that

641
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: he'll come with a new sense of appreciation for being

642
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Speaker 3: at the NHL level and a more focus level. But

643
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm not penning hopes on

644
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: Ryan Graves becoming good all of a sudden.

645
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 2: No, no, me neither. But I'm still curious.

646
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Speaker 3: If it works slightly better.

647
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Speaker 1: Django, I'm curious what makes you so curious? And by

648
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the way, those buses in the AHL aren't that bad.

649
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Speaker 3: They're luxury buses.

650
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: I mean more so.

651
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like in North Hill's school district,

652
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Speaker 1: you know, yellow traditional school bus.

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Speaker 3: Do they have the hole in the back, the pe

654
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Speaker 3: hole that they like carve out on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Is that from what Goon?

656
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Speaker 3: I think it's Goon. Yeah, they have the p hole

657
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Speaker 3: in the back. You gotta sit in the p hole, right.

658
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: That's what the coach says to Doug whenever he gets

659
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: in trouble for I think scoring goals, right, or it

660
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: was later in the movie.

661
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: Maybe you could say he goes, you guys gotta go

662
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: out there and give an effort.

663
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: It's not effing.

664
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Speaker 3: Baseball coach is an underrated like you know for ranking

665
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: or if we had a trifector for movie coaches, he's

666
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: an underrated one wouldn't make the list.

667
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: But the Goon coach is great. All the coaches in Goon,

668
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: because there were several were.

669
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: There several coaches.

670
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Was the assistant the guy that coached the local team

671
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: that he made.

672
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh my God, you're right, the guy who kind of

673
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: taught him how to skate like there and like beat

674
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: the hell out of the whole team. Yes, okay, yeah,

675
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: you're right. The guy kind of showed him the ropes

676
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: at first, then he got to Halifax.

677
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: No, I really want to watch that scene.

678
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: Goon's great. Goon Two's great too. Do you like the

679
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: second one?

680
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

681
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: Good continuation. The old player becomes the assistant coach in

682
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: the second one.

683
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: And Alicia Kochberg plays a puck buddy. So that's art

684
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: imitating life.

685
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: One oh five to nine Tonight's the Pens hit the

686
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: ice against the Capitals. Game time is seven thirty. Our

687
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: coverage starts at six thirty. Listen to every game and

688
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: the best Pens coverage on your home of the Pittsburgh

689
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Speaker 4: Penguins one O five nine DX.

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Speaker 3: From the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is

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Speaker 3: sponsored by Fresh Time Market.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a pretty nice day, sunshine if you

693
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: afternoon cloud to hide. It's the Mark Man Free Game

694
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Speaker 1: Show on one O five nine DX. I got a

695
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: message for the Penguins that if you're listening, I want

696
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: to see every single one of your work. Your effing

697
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: asses off until you puke your guts that this is

698
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: not effing baseball. I'm just so bummed that Morrishof's not

699
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: playing tonight, Tom, What do we got for the trifecta?

700
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: For today's trifecta? Mark, you mentioned this earlier in the show,

701
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 3: But Jordan Binnington trying to steal the Alex Ovechkin number

702
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: nine hundred puck? I respect it, honestly.

703
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: He's a d But it was funny.

704
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: Do you think he was doing it for a laugh

705
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: or was there actual intention to get out of that

706
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: stadium that night with that number nine hundred pucks?

707
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I think he pretended it to start it was for

708
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: a laugh. No, no, at the end, it was for

709
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: a laugh.

710
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: Like he recovers right, like he wanted, all right, well

711
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: here's some three sports pants. I know, so weird he

712
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: had to like dig so far deep into if I'm

713
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: ov I'm like, I don't need it anymore.

714
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: What if he had a different puck in the pants

715
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: swap and he has the real puck now has the

716
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: foresight to do that.

717
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: He played an entire game with a puck in his pants,

718
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: like he's happy Gilmore, I could see it, all right, Well,

719
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: these are three sports heists that come to mind. Number

720
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: three in Space Jam, when the Monstars stole the NBA

721
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: player's talent to try to enslave all of the Looney Tunes,

722
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: but then Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck were able to

723
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: recruit Michael Jordan to get the talent back. Number two

724
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: is the NBA frozen envelope stealing Patrick Ewing for the

725
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: New York Knicks. I believe that happened one hundred percent

726
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: think it happened. And number one is the stealing of

727
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: all of OJ Simpson's memorabilia by O. J. Simpson himself.

728
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: Did you see that in the E FPIN documentary.

729
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: When he stole the stuff back in the tapes? No,

730
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: I didn't.

731
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: They had video, they had audio. Yeah. Oh, And like

732
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I told her this.

733
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: When I saw that on ESPN the thirty for thirty

734
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: about oj Made in America, which is a great documentary,

735
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I went back in my email to look at bills

736
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: I got, like receipts I got from staying in Vegas.

737
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: I stayed in the same room at Palaestation once that

738
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Ojuh went into with his crew and took his memorabile.

739
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: All the memorabilia was in. You're in that very room. Yep,

740
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Like some people say like I was in

741
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: a room that was haunted or something like that. I

742
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: would be so proud of that. If IRE was you,

743
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: I would wear that like a badge of honor. I

744
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: was in OJ Simpson's memorabilia room.

745
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who the I'm not sure that big.

746
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: It's a huge deal to me. What a very nice room.

747
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: It's like at Pallas Days they have a tower and

748
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: they have like a like kind of like a motel type,

749
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, wings with the you know, like single floor,

750
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: and those rooms aren't as nice.

751
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Not know how, but I got stuck there.

752
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: I can't remember who the weekend Update host who executed

753
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: this joke. It was such a norm would have been

754
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: so proud of him when this story broke. I just

755
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: remember the Weekend Update guy said something along the lines

756
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: of O. J. Simpson was arrested for and all the

757
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: charges of burglary and went through it and then at

758
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: the end he went but mostly murder.

759
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Well, I thought, what was the one attorney's name, like

760
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: the lesser light on the Johnny Cockety and Karl Douglas.

761
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: I think, yes, the African American guys.

762
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: He said that O J should have got like two

763
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: years at the most for you know, that that thing

764
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: in Vegas, like taking his memorabilia back, But they got

765
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: even for him having got off, you know, for the

766
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: double murder. And I think that's probably true, I think severely.

767
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: But but he didn't commit a crime, would have gone

768
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: to jail for a bit, and he should have known better.

769
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: How can you, how can you just think you have the.

770
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: OJ privilege after you got away with to Marty's dead again,

771
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Here's how whol.

772
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Was he was when he got out.

773
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: And this is in the OJU docudrama where Cuba Gooding

774
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: plays oj but it's based you know, a lot of

775
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: truth in there. He had his kid call the restaurants,

776
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: like you know in Brentwood to get reservations to have

777
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: a celebration the next night. Nobody would take his reservation

778
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: and he couldn't believe it. Well, it's because you not

779
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: only got away with murder, but your murdered two people,

780
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: one who worked at one of these joints and one

781
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: who came here all the time a waiter.

782
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was totally for murder that

783
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: he was put up for as long as he was

784
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: for breaking in and stealing all of that. How do

785
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: you even find like a jury that doesn't know the

786
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: OJ story to try to prosecute him on the memorabilia case.

787
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: You couldn't, right, everybody knows who he was. Judge sentenced,

788
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: judge sentence, and like the I think might have been

789
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: just the judge trial as a matter.

790
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Of fact, I have to do because you couldn't find

791
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: one right. But the point is is that you know

792
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: he should have just done nothing. And it wasn't even

793
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: he thought he was going there to get back like

794
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: personal stuff he was getting he went. It turned out

795
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: the guy just had a whole bunch of autographed eight

796
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: by ten stuff like that. He wasn't looking for his highs,

797
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: like really elementary stuff. No, I think the Goldmans have

798
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: the heisman.

799
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: The heisman is still in his possession or they have

800
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: it now because they got it in the set of things.

801
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know, I think I don't know

802
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: who literally got No, I don't know. Maybe his agent

803
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: took it and I don't know. But the point is

804
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: he did.

805
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Not have it.

806
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: I get kind of breaking in for your heisman, but

807
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: for just some eight by tens. Do you think he

808
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: thought it was his heisman and stuff like that. And

809
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: when he gets there he sees the eight by tens,

810
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: He's like, you gotta be kidding me.

811
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: I just think that he thinks that everything should go

812
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: his way all the time, the bud And why wouldn't

813
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: you think that because he lived such a privilege. Yeah,

814
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: when he was an athlete then got away with a

815
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: double homicide.

816
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: You're right, the balls to kind of test it again

817
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: to go.

818
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: I would have interviewed oj after.

819
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: He probably was gettable too for a good moment.

820
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: Sure.

822
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: He was such a great social media presence. Yes, his Twitter, Hey,

823
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 3: Twitter world, those were the best.

824
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I liked.

825
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: I liked what he would update like fantasy football.

826
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that. Andrew Luck retired on him the

827
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: second after he drafted him, and he posted this video

828
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: on Twitter. He was just enraged. He was like, hey,

829
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: you look, how can you do this to me? He

830
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: was legit mass so mad at Luck.

831
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Like that would have been more where you could say, Okay,

832
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: this is kind of funny, blah blah blah. All right, Uh,

833
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: don't forget Uh did I did I plug Danny's Pizza?

834
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: Not yet?

835
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: Let's plug it okay.

836
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: The Trifector brought to us by Danny's Pizzer and Hogies

837
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: in Bethel Park that's on Route eighty eight.

838
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: Uh, great Hogies.

839
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: You gotta go get him great pizza too, And of

840
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: course the pregame show brought to us by our good

841
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: friends at Shnderovich Sendroovic and Fishmen.

842
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

843
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm pissed because they're not playing more shoft tonight. That said,

844
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go because I always go. Tom de pen

845
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be pissed at me. Jen Jen Balan is gonna.

846
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: Lecture me tonight when you go to the game for sure,

847
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: h whatever You've been chewed out before.

848
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Like like like uh Aldo, Lieutenant Rain.

849
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm not dismissing Kyle coming to find me,

850
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: but probably not.

851
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: You're right about this though.

852
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

853
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: If Gen comes to lecture me, I'm going to say

854
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: to Jen Jen, you know I'm right. You agree with me,

855
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: You just have to come yeah, reprimand me.

856
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. How could you not agree with you?

857
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: It's such a moment that it's just presented to them

858
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: and they're fumbling it. I mean, the opponent couldn't be

859
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: more perfect either. Mark with Ov, the predominant Russian just

860
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: scoring nine hundred goals and the Cap Penguin rivalry on

861
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: top of that. It's literally perfect and they fumbled.

862
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: You gotta give Ov major credit. I mean, nine hundred goals.

863
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: My gout and say, I think he's not at the

864
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: end of the year, don't you. Yeah, he looks like

865
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: he has three goals so far this year. And here's

866
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: the two things. He looks out of gas and even

867
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: talks out of gas, like like not that he's like

868
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: gloom and doom, but he's like you can tell that

869
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: he's kind of waiting for the end. And I think

870
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: the adrenaline dissipated with the catching Gretzky and then making

871
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which nobody expected them to do, and this

872
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: year he got nine hundred.

873
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

874
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, can you keep manufacturing adrenaline surges at age four?

875
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you've already done so much and you've caught Gretzky,

876
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: you have the record. No one's probably gonna catch you.

877
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to believe someone would catch nine hundred.

878
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm really glad he won a Cup.

879
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it legitimized his career. Do you think that

880
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: he still enjoys going out to the office, though on

881
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: the power play, just ripping at the net. I mean,

882
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: that's still got to be a little bit fun for him.

883
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I were him. If I were him,

884
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I mean, like there's a

885
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: time to stop doing stuff and maybe I don't know.

886
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: You can't speak for people. But if I were him,

887
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Sid will outlast Ovi. I think

888
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: by several years. But I think Sid's probably in better condition.

889
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean, not that Ovih's out of shape, but he's

890
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: a bigger guy who's taken and given more punishment.

891
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: Nothing Sid's is shrinking violent, but you know what I mean.

892
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm not saying he got a bunch of

893
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: five car pollups. I'm not saying true. And I'm not

894
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: saying that he's out of shape either, But he did

895
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: not take care of his body in the off seasons

896
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: like Sid does.

897
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Somebody did, except maybe.

898
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Tanger, But but yeah, I just I'm really I didn't

899
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: think this at the time. I'm glad ov won a

900
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: cup because that would hang over his head forever if

901
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: he hadn't. Absolutely, so I'm happy for the guy and

902
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: Penguin fans going to the game. Give Ov a standing

903
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: ovation because I'm sure that's gonna be on the board

904
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: him scoring the goal.

905
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Did you see the goal?

906
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, where he like kind of like it was like

907
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: a Chechs hockey spinner. Weird.

908
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: It's not a typical.

909
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Ov goal again, and not from the office, like a

910
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: slap shot on the power play where you think he'd

911
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: get it.

912
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Do you know they're talking about Tom Wilson making Team Canada.

913
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 3: I hope they do pick Tom Wilson for Team Canada

914
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: because I team USA to win.

915
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: Team usain't winning.

916
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: Bro Well, I can still root for them, and that

917
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: would be a mistake for Team Canada.

918
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: They're good, they're good. They're gonna pick the wrong players.

919
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: They probably will as well.

920
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: And I routed for Sid anyway.

921
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: I rout it for Mario when he played for Canada

922
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: and that was tough Mario against Herb Brooks and O two.

923
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: But I route for Mario for Canada. I ruled for

924
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: Sid for Canada. Doc Canada.

925
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: You don't think they'll take Wilson, right That's just a

926
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: little bit of a rumor that's happening right now. They

927
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: usually nail it by taking the best players.

928
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I don't know so.

929
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Just around the corner, I'm going to tell you why

930
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers for sure should have traded a fourth round

931
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: pick to get something at that effing trade deadline.

932
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: Five nine