1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR Now, the WOR Saturday 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Morning Show. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show, Scott Jennings, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: the Conservative Lion on CNN, has a new book out 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump, called The Revolution of Common Sense. He's 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: here to talk about it. Scott. It's great to talk 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: to you again. Thanks for being here. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Hey, I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you. 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Hey. Listen, something just happened in New York today that 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: is a big deal. You know, zorin Mam Donnie is 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the mayor elect. I've heard you talk about him before. 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Everybody was hoping that Jessica Tish was going to stay 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: on as police commissioner, even though they disagree with each 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: other on just about every law enforcement policy. We got 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the great news today she is staying on. Does that 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: give you some comfort? 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't a short term, but I still think 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: what you said is true. They disagree fundamentally on law enforcement. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: I mean heard I'm Ganni repeatedly over the years make 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: disparaging remarks about law enforcement and his views on criminal 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: justice in general. He wants fewer police on the street, 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: but he wants to empty the prisons, and I just 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: think that's fundamentally at odds with what most people would 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: think is a right way to run a criminal justice system. 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: He's also saying this week he'll have the NYPD or 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: as Prime Minister net and Yahoo of Israel if he 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: comes to New York City. So I wonder what will 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: happen when some of these operational things, you know, after 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: he takes over, happen. And I hope Tisch stays, but 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: I get a feeling she's going to be given orders 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: that she simply can't follow. 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if she's going to be giving orders 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: they gave said they had several meetings, and the fact 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: that she look she doesn't need him, he needs her, 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: And so I got a feeling, at least, let me 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: let me enjoy this for a minute, Scott, Let me 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: just feel like at least the police department's going to 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: be in good hands. 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: I hope you're right, and I pray that you're right. 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: But I also think this guy's got a ton of 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: supporters who aren't interested in the kind of police force 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: that you're in interested in, and he's going to be 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: under a huge amount of political pressure from his base 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: to do what they thought he said he was going 46 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: to do. I hope you're right, and maybe he'll surprise this. 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: And certainly politicians have surprised me in the past. I 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: don't think he's going to be one of them, but 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: maybe he'll be right in hope springs eternal. 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what, if she's forced to do 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: anything she doesn't want to do, she's gonna leave. I mean, 52 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: she's from a billionaire family, she doesn't she doesn't need 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: this job, and I believe she's going to run for 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: mayor somewhere down the line. 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: Look, I'm fearful for New York City. I'm fearful the Jewish, 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: fearful for the Jewish population in New York City. But again, 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to hope for the best, 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: but plan for the worst. I spend a lot of 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: time here now. I'm from Kentucky, but I'm in New 60 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: York all the time. So these things matter to me 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: more now than they ever have. 62 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: Well, congratulations to you on the new book, A Revolution 63 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: of common Sense. I think I can figure out what 64 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: you're getting at, But why don't you just explain in. 65 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Case, Well, here's what the deal is. I heard the 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: President use that phrase in his inaugural address, and I 67 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: thought to myself, boy, that'd be a great title for 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: a book. And it is the perfect way to explain 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: how he has branded the Republican Party and the conservative 70 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: movement since he's come on the scene. And I went 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: with the President in fact, to Michigan on his hundredth 72 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: day in office, and he said something like to the 73 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: in his speech. You know, whether you're on the right, 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: whether you're on the left, or whatever you are, it's 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: just common sense. That's how he thinks of himself. You know, 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: he is a conservative, and he operates mostly as a conservative, 77 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: but more than that, he just thinks of himself as 78 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: someone who's trying to act on common sense and trying 79 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: to get to outcomes. And so that's why I wrote 80 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: the book, because I think understanding how he thinks of 81 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: himself and how he leads is key to understating how 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: our government currently operates. So it's really more of an 83 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: informational or an educational book. If you want to learn 84 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: about how Donald Trump leads the government, this book has 85 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: the access and the information for you. 86 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you too. I think that he 87 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: like many Americans, and especially some young men who were 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: left out of every conversation when it came to politics 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: or the last administration. They looked at him and what 90 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: he was talking about and just said that made sense. 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: That's why he won. He won all the swing states 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: and he won the popular vote because of that, and 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: he's carrying through with it. 94 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Look, let's take a few of the issues 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: that you know, I called him eighty twenty issues. Maybe 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: they're ninety ten or ninety five to five, like boys 97 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: and girls sports, boys and girls' locker rooms. You know, 98 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: the Democrats were dedicated to the idea that we just 99 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: had to accept that. That's one of a bunch of 100 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: issues where people thought, well, that's not common sense, that's nonsense, 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: and Trump instinctively knew it, and he comes along and 102 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: he latches onto it and says, I'm I'm just going 103 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: to do the common sense thing here. That brought in 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: to his coalition a bunch of people who did not 105 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: think of themselves as Republicans, but they were tired of 106 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: being told they had to accept things that they instinctively 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: knew were nonsense. And so Trump got it. That's part 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: of his political talent. To sort of seize upon those issues, 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: and it really really helped deliver him the presidency second time. 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of them. The border is the other one. 111 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: What did he do? He closed that on a weekend 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: after we're told that couldn't be closed, or at least 113 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: what else. We were told it was safe, and then 114 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: we were told it was too hard to close. 115 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: We had had effectively zero border crossings in this country 116 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: for the last five months. I mean, think about that. 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: We had hundreds of thousands of people coming in. Now 118 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 2: we have zero. Do you have any laws we've passed 119 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: since Donald Trump took office on immigration? Zero? We have 120 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: not passed a single new law. We do have a 121 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: president who's willing to enforce existing law and tell law 122 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: enforcement to execute the laws that are on the books. 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: That's the only difference. It was an attitude change, and 124 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: it was a change in are we going to follow 125 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: the law or are we not? He's following the law. 126 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I don't think it's controversial frankly to follow the law. 127 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: But the impact has been felt immediately. Zero border crossings. 128 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: We're also getting rid of some of these people here 129 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: on visas that came here to hate America and foement 130 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: anger against America and the West. I think it's been 131 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: his best accomplishment is getting the immigration system under control. 132 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: Now we have a lot of internal enforcement left to do, 133 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: but closing the border alone has been one of his 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: biggest achievements. 135 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I love the name of your book about 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: common sense because when he stakes a ground in issues 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: that we just talked about, on issues like we just 138 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: talked about, that makes so much sense. It forces the 139 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Democrats on the other side of those issues, and they 140 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: take debit every single time. 141 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Scott. One of the dumbest things they do is reflexively 142 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: oppose Donald Trump no matter what he does. They never 143 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: stop to say, well, wait a minute, would this put 144 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: us in a bad position if we oppose this. They 145 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: do it every single time. Immigration's a great example. He says, well, 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: let's close the border, let's not have people coming in, 147 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: and let's get criminal, illegal, violent people out of our country. 148 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: And what do they do. They send their senators to 149 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: El Salvador to try to retrieve a guy who's at 150 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: MS thirteen and bring him back to Maryland. The Democrats 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: cannot help themselves. They oppose him reflexively. It is their ideology. 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: Leave in nothing except opposing Donald Trump at all costs. 153 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I think it hurts their party and hurts their brand. 154 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: Well, Scott, thanks for spending time with us. We get 155 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: a taste of what the book is all about. A 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: revolution of common sense by Scott Jennings that is worth 157 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: the read, and we'll look for you on CNN. Thanks 158 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot, Scott, Thanks a lot. 159 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: It's in bookstores today. Get your copy now. You won't 160 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: regret it. 161 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: This has been a podcast from wor