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Speaker 1: Bengals now. Next guest covers the Bengals, publisher of Bengals

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Speaker 1: That must mean we are turning to James Rapine.

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing well? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am well? I wonder Tampa Bay has now found

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Speaker 1: its offensive coordinator. It's not Dan Pitcher. Do you take

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Speaker 1: that to mean that ultimately Dan Pitcher remains in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 3: The the James Rapine Sportsbook on would certainly put Dan

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Speaker 3: Pisher more than likely in Cincinnati right now. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's a foregone conclusion. And I think that this

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Speaker 3: this whole process has been so interesting to me, and

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Speaker 3: giving him permission to interview in Tampa, a place that

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Speaker 3: he interviewed at a few years ago. I never really

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Speaker 3: got the sense Lance that he was the favorite for

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Speaker 3: that job, and then you find out that it was

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Speaker 3: a virtual interview and then they finalized something with Zach

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Speaker 3: Robinson that night.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it just it's.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting that one they requested it, two he took it,

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Speaker 3: and three it still resulted in this. And so you know,

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Speaker 3: when you go to your boss and you you say, hey,

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Speaker 3: I want to interview for this, that's a pretty I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say risky, but that's a bit bold

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Speaker 3: considering it was a bit of a lateral move. So

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Speaker 3: I do think cul stay is there an opportunity for

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Speaker 3: him elsewhere? There might be because there's still plenty of

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Speaker 3: head coaching vacancies out there.

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Speaker 1: James, if Dan were to leave in order to call plays,

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Speaker 1: what would you say to the idea of why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't Zach consider giving up play calling in order

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Speaker 1: to keep somebody like Damn Pitcher?

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting one. How much does the organization value

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Speaker 3: Dan Pitcher? Do they think that he's a someone that

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Speaker 3: you should.

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Speaker 2: Change your day game.

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Speaker 3: To gain play to play operation that you truly believe

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Speaker 3: in to retain Is he worth that?

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Speaker 2: And is he worth it.

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Speaker 3: Enough knowing that if he does his job well, that

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Speaker 3: he's going to.

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Speaker 4: Be a head coach somewhere else and.

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Speaker 3: That should happen a year from now if he calls

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Speaker 3: play for Joe Burrow, Jamar Chasen t Higgins and things

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Speaker 3: go well.

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Speaker 4: So that's the dilemma. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 4: a Zach issue, and I think that's what.

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Speaker 3: The intriguing part to me. And I don't know the

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Speaker 3: answer to this. I don't know if the Bengals would

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Speaker 3: ever give you the exact answer. But is Zach Hill

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Speaker 3: then on calling plays? Is Joke comfortable with him calling plays?

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Speaker 3: Is it a mixture of the organization saying, well, Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor's under contract and we know that if we hitch

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Speaker 3: his wagon, if we have him and we have Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow or often should be pretty darn solid.

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Speaker 4: I think it might be a mixture of all.

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Speaker 2: Of the above. And it probably does help that Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 3: Is sort of out there right now, because if you

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Speaker 3: lose Dan Pitcher, then.

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Speaker 4: You have a guy that you know as well that

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Speaker 4: you could go after a OCI.

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Speaker 2: That's a perfect segue.

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Speaker 1: That was going to be the follow up question, because

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Speaker 1: in an off season of consistency, Brian Callahan would certainly

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Speaker 4: He would, and I think it's social media.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's not fans everywhere, But like, to me,

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Speaker 3: this is a no brainer, and I don't really care

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Speaker 3: what happened in Tennessee. It's like, I'm not asking him

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 4: A head coach.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking him to come here and be an offensive

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Speaker 2: And I know that that worked well.

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Speaker 3: And does that mean that his responsibilities might be a

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Speaker 3: two years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure, But ultimately this needs to be a make or

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Speaker 3: breaks type of season for Zach Taylor and a make

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Speaker 3: or break season for the organization. And so I don't

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Speaker 3: want excuses of all, well, this new OC, it took

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Speaker 3: of those things. And with Brian, there wouldn't be excuses

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Speaker 3: built in because they've been there, they've done that, they've

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Speaker 3: dealt with injuries, they've made it to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: they've made it to back to back AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he would be on the short list,

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Speaker 3: And I do wonder if that's why Zach and the

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Speaker 3: Bengals were comfortable with Dan Pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Taking an interview with the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: James's is there something to this angle I'm about to

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Speaker 1: lay out, And it's not as much about Zach's play

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Speaker 1: calling as a reason to give up play calling. It's

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Speaker 1: the thought that at times there seems to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of balls in the air, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say he gets overwhelmed, maybe distracted as too strong

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Speaker 1: a word, but I've always thought there's something to being

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Speaker 1: a CEO of an organized overseeing more than the nuts

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Speaker 1: and bolts of play, of calling play to play to play.

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Speaker 1: Is there something you know where I'm going with that?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny because I think when the Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: speculation was starting to heat up last month, before we

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Speaker 3: knew he was under contract through the twenty twenty seventh season,

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Speaker 3: I think that that was part of my logic. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't thinking about Joe Brady or mintor Vessey mintor or

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Speaker 3: this guy or that guy. I didn't care if you

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Speaker 3: were an offensive or defensive mind. I was like, all right,

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Speaker 3: who is the CEO type? And that would be my

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Speaker 3: target if I'm the Bengals, if I do replace Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor one day.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's it's a good point.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why they're so damn discombobulated sometimes

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Speaker 3: on the sideline, and that does need to be fixed.

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Speaker 2: It just does like you have no burrow.

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Speaker 3: He's a super human computer. And by the way, I

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Speaker 3: do think that there is something to Zach and I've

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Speaker 3: been plenty critical of Zach Taylor, but I do think

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Speaker 3: there's something to the collaboration aspect of maybe he does

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Speaker 3: listen to Dan in his headset for too long and

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Speaker 3: that's why it takes.

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Speaker 2: Time to get the play calls in.

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Speaker 3: But regardless, I don't care what it is, it better

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Speaker 3: get in otherwise I don't want anyone call him plays

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Speaker 3: have nine out there. You just call them like you

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Speaker 3: see it, Joe, and you live with the consequences. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit of course. At the same time,

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Speaker 3: they need to clean that up, because it's been a

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Speaker 3: couple of years now where it just that's happens, and

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Speaker 3: they burn time outs and it just installs any momentum

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Speaker 3: that they're trying to build.

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Speaker 1: All right, take me back to Monday night National Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: You're always looking at things through the prism of a draft,

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Speaker 1: and you love mock drafts. Give me a player or

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Speaker 1: two that jumped out off the TV screen at you

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Speaker 1: related to the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm a big Batman fan.

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Speaker 3: In my favorite my favorite villain is not the Joker,

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Speaker 3: even though he was played by Heath Ledger.

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Speaker 4: About as elite as elite could be in the.

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Speaker 3: Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises is underrated Land and Bain,

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Speaker 3: as in Ruben Bain Junior, is exactly that.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine at pay Course Stadium roll in a

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Speaker 3: clip of The Dark Knight Rises, whereas ah you think

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Speaker 3: darkness is your ally and it's.

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Speaker 4: Ruben Bain June. I can, and I see it right now.

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Speaker 3: I hope he has twenty seven in Charms because I

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Speaker 3: really don't care.

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Speaker 4: I hope he's there at ten.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't done much of my draft research yet,

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Speaker 3: much of my draft fret, but you better believe that

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Speaker 3: Ruben Bain is going to be around the top of

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Speaker 3: the list for candidates with that temp overall.

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Speaker 1: Pick all, right, last question, Always enjoy our conversations. They've

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Speaker 1: re up taken care of Tanner Hudson. You know the

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Speaker 1: fan favorite for an extension is somebody like Dalton. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense. Could you see that getting done? Better

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Speaker 1: get done? It better get done, and.

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Speaker 3: It needs to get done because for decades now you

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Speaker 3: have examples of them not valuing guard. Even when they

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Speaker 3: hit on a guard in the draft, even when it

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Speaker 3: works out and they're really good, they're not willing to

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Speaker 3: pay them in the market. And you also better believe

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Speaker 3: that in twenty twenty six, guard has never been more valuable.

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Speaker 3: And if you can find reliable guards, you hold on

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Speaker 3: to them. When you have a quarterback like Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: defensive tackles pass rushing defensive tackles are really tough to find,

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Speaker 3: and when you find them, it makes life hell for

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Speaker 3: opposing quarterbacks. Guards are the ones that can help alleviate that.

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Speaker 3: We saw that this year for Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: After these guys got settled in, I would keep Dalton Reisner.

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Speaker 3: I would do a two year deal, and I think

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Speaker 3: you could find a reasonable number to get it done.

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Speaker 3: It might be Katie wants me to if they want

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Speaker 3: me to do the deal, I'd be happy to call

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Speaker 3: Dalton and get that thing done.

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Speaker 1: You are always talking Bengals, You're always writing Bengals. Where

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Speaker 1: can people read watch follow all your Bengals.

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Speaker 3: You can check it out Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube,

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Speaker 3: Bengals Talk dot com, and the Lockdown Bengals podcast.

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Speaker 2: Always a blast. Thank you, sir, yep, thanks llam