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Speaker 4: Dave Damn a shack us joining.

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Speaker 5: Us on these the good time. Here come the Buckos step.

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Penguins have already arrived, and the Steelers are in

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Speaker 5: the postseason. All our hand ringing of the past year

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Speaker 5: has been washed the way we're born and new, ain't

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Speaker 5: we fellas?

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Speaker 3: Look, you know some big free agent signings for the

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Speaker 3: Bucos so far.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: But relatively speak, yes, well, relatively speaking is the only

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Speaker 3: way to speak when speaking about the Buckos relative to

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Speaker 3: their lack of spending in the past.

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Speaker 5: Some things to the playoffs, and that's that we can

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Speaker 5: talk about it in March. Let's talk about the matter

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the matter in hand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you reference the Penguins had a nice

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Speaker 3: run coming out of the holidays there and the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 3: who I tried to explain this to you, Dave, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you get the sense out there in

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Speaker 3: Steeler Nation that masses on the West coast, but back

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Speaker 3: here it's as if they just got a berth in

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Speaker 3: the AFC Championship. That was the level of celebration in

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Speaker 3: relief that came with the victory over the Ravens this

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Speaker 3: past Sunday night.

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Speaker 5: So many thoughts, I, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 5: be the curmudgeon and have to say it, but let's

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Speaker 5: try not to be prisoners of the moment. Obviously, if

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Speaker 5: Tyler Luke makes that kick, we're having very different conversations.

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Speaker 5: Do you think globally listen thrilled with that and the

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Speaker 5: notion that a forty four yard field go much like

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Speaker 5: the forty seven yard field goal Scott Norwood missed. This

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Speaker 5: is a different era and all of that, and kickers

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Speaker 5: are better than they were back then, but got the next.

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Speaker 6: Time you get a chance.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to tell Randy Bauman, you know, member

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Speaker 5: near a football field, go stand where a forty four

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Speaker 5: how implausible it seems that instead a human being would

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Speaker 5: be able to through through the little rectangle in the

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Speaker 5: distance there. Nevertheless, I thought it was possible he might

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Speaker 5: miss that kick. What a game? What a what a

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Speaker 5: you know, an iconic stretch for the best rivalry in

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Speaker 5: pro football this millennium. It was great stuff. And like

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Speaker 5: I say, really, globally speaking where the NFL is concerned,

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Speaker 5: I don't know there's been a more consequential regular season

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Speaker 5: game since maybe literally to make a little circle here

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Speaker 5: of the events at hand, since the Houston Texans pulled

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Speaker 5: off that rally that landed Bryce Young in Caroline and CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud in Houston, and let's get it on on Monday night,

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Speaker 5: which I don't like spiritually on one level that it's

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Speaker 5: a playoff game. This is a big time game. It

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Speaker 5: was a Monday night football.

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Speaker 4: What the hell?

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Speaker 5: What do we do?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 3: Are counterpoints Some people on the other side of the

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Speaker 3: almost never lose, well.

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Speaker 5: Never right, and then Mike Tomlin never wins in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: So something's got to give as far as that's concerned.

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Speaker 5: What I do like about it? From a Steelers fans

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Speaker 5: pov when if if the Steelers were the first game

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Speaker 5: is destroyed. Now you're not in the mood. You just

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Speaker 5: got got punched, and now you don't want to watch

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Speaker 5: the other football game. Correct, that's how That's how petulant

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Speaker 5: Dave reacts, like I can't watch this now, Like I

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Speaker 5: I completely missed the nineteen ninety two World Series, the

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Speaker 5: Great World Series. I did watch Game seven, That's not true.

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Speaker 5: tomorrow night, and then I saw the the Great Game,

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Speaker 5: the Jack Morris Game. But I missed everything that preceded

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Speaker 6: I couldn't bring myself.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I thought it disloyal. And then of course

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Speaker 4: The unspeakable event.

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Speaker 5: I against my will. Still, I had a ticket and

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Speaker 4: Of that super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: That was a powerful and unmistakable message, what the hell

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Speaker 5: are you doing here? That's why I just don't watch

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. So anyway, if the Steelers were to lose

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Speaker 5: the first game of the wildcard weekend, then I don't

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Speaker 5: know what I would do with myself.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 5: I get to put my feet up Saturday and Sunday

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Speaker 5: and drink in everything then and then see if the

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Speaker 5: Steelers have a role going forward in.

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Speaker 6: The divisional round.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, all right, So so far Steelers are underdogs

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Speaker 3: going up against this mighty Houston defense here at Agroscer Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Did you see anything that made you feel better about

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Speaker 3: the offensive potential of Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 3: in how they performed without DK Metc.

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Speaker 5: Well, simplistically, we know that Rogers is quite different at

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Speaker 5: The limitation of the Baltimore Ravens was lack of pass

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Speaker 5: thought that was a real a nail's performance. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say his legacy is hanging in the balance

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Speaker 5: AFC South. But the team that had emerged in the

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Speaker 5: best in the AFC top to bottom is the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: And yet I think that's the best bet for the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: We already saw what the Chargers did, and we already

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Speaker 5: that human beings ain't that different that the result would

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Speaker 5: pressure sure as the favorite team for the Houston Texans

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Speaker 5: So I think that all amounts to the Steelers having

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Speaker 5: know Bowman, you say, do I have my finger on

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Speaker 5: the pulse of of what the populace is feeling right now?

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Speaker 5: I've gotten sucked in, man. I feel like in a

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Speaker 5: weird way. I know this is simplistic, but the lack

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Speaker 5: and it's just Bears repeating the same How is it

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Speaker 5: don't understand Steelers fans who who have a weird emotions

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Speaker 5: toarts to Mike Tomlin. Here here's why, everybody, because they

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Speaker 5: lost to the Cleveland Browns. They scored six points against

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Speaker 5: think maybe there's something to the idea of I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that he gleaned enough from that Browns

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Speaker 8: But Cleveland's defense is really really good and Baltimore's defense sucks.

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Speaker 3: There is that too, But Dave, isn't there something too

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Speaker 3: like building up to this moment? Like I have been

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Speaker 3: trying to diagnosed and dissect how it is that Steeler

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Speaker 3: and they outlast a team that they really needed to

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Speaker 3: And it removed all the hope that Steeler fans had

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Speaker 3: if he misses that kick or doesn't miss the kick,

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Speaker 4: You know, the ball went a couple of way.

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Speaker 3: They had them on fourth and seven, they had them

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Speaker 3: football god fate blowing casting the fate of the Steelers

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Speaker 5: I you know, obviously, I feel like the bar has

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Speaker 5: And in my opinion, I'm gonna whisper it. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Cleveland Brown should go to Baltimore and Harbaugh

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Speaker 4: That's what I think.

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Speaker 5: It's fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. Let's just trade

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Speaker 5: them Tomlin for John Harbaugh, who has the more Which

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Speaker 3: Last thing for you here in under one minute, the

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Speaker 3: lightning round. I'm going through the games. I want your picks. Saturday,

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Speaker 3: four thirty pm. Rams Panthers, Rams.

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Speaker 5: I don't love the ten and a half though I

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Speaker 3: Up, Rammitt, Rammitt, do you know how to ram it?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: Eight o'clock game? This is the one I'm really looking

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Speaker 3: forward to. Saturday night, Packers Bears.

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Speaker 5: I hate when people say it's hard to beat the

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Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers are going to win this game. I

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Speaker 5: think it's a big spot for Caleb Williams. I know

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Speaker 5: he's come through in some of those spots this season.

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Speaker 3: Next Sunday one o'clock, Bill's Jags.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the Bills. Jags are are playing great. In

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Speaker 3: Forty nine forty nine Ers Eagles Sunday Night or Sunday

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Speaker 5: Eagles are going to the super Bowl, so obviously they're

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Speaker 5: going to beat the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Two

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Speaker 5: Jenga pieces on defense. Jalen Carter is back, and that

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Speaker 5: They're a different team offensively. When he's out there. Beware

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Speaker 5: the defending champs who for some reason, people are sleeping.

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Speaker 4: Out Chargers Patriots Sunday night.

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Speaker 5: The charge limitation is obviously their offensive line. The Patriots

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Speaker 5: I think that the Patriots, though, are set up with

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the New England Patriots to advance at least

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Speaker 5: I think that I have no good X and O

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Speaker 4: I think no bones.

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Speaker 5: I think the Steelers win this one. Twenty to sixteen.

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Speaker 3: NFL coverage from Houston, Texas. One of our all time

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Speaker 4: John the Clay's joining us.

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Speaker 7: John, Good morning, how are you. I'm doing great, guys,

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Speaker 7: how are you fantastic? And couldn't be more excited for

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Speaker 7: for Monday night football in the Burg, the Steelers and

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Speaker 7: the Texans. So nobody better to have on to talk

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Speaker 7: about the opponent for the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend than yourself, John.

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Speaker 7: And I'm wondering with this dominating defense that DeMarco, Ryan

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Speaker 9: Well, the defensive line, specifically the outside guys Will Anderson Junior.

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Speaker 9: Both of them have at least twelve sides Anderson twelve

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Speaker 9: was signed here last year to the practice squad after

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Speaker 9: bouncing around like a pinball. He had to play this

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Speaker 9: year because they had three of their top four defensive

442
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Speaker 9: tackles going injured, and the guy just keeps getting better

443
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Speaker 9: and better, so he's been able to get a little penetration.

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Speaker 9: So they've definitely got to get people to get to

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Speaker 9: stop the Steelers running game, of course, but try to

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Speaker 9: get pressure up the middle to throw off Rogers as

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Speaker 9: timing and I will point out to you guys, the

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Speaker 9: Texans have a super Bowl defense, they have a super

449
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Speaker 9: Bowl special teams, but their offense is mediocre. Their running

450
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Speaker 9: game is mediocre and best their offensive line is one

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Speaker 9: of the worst I've ever seen last season, and then

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Speaker 9: it's improved this season. As pass protectors tried hadn't been

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Speaker 9: sacked in the last three games. One sacked in the

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Speaker 9: last four him getting rid of the ball quicker instead

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Speaker 9: of trying to make hero plays all old boom thirteen

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Speaker 9: yard sack. He's tried to cut back on that. But

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Speaker 9: their running game, I'll guarantee if Steelers are going to

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Speaker 9: shut down, they're running and what Stroud can do against

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Speaker 9: the Steelers pass rush will be the key for the

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Speaker 9: Texans offense.

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Speaker 8: John back to that Texans defense for a second. I

462
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Speaker 8: saw the Chargers game. I think they hit one deep ball.

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Speaker 8: When was it Lasser wasn't in or no Sting he

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Speaker 8: wasn't in, and then the Colts hit a couple. But

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Speaker 8: I don't know how much the Texans cared about that

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Speaker 8: Colts game. Would the vulnerability be you can get a

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Speaker 8: deep sideline ball on them if you can somehow protect

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Speaker 8: long enough to throw it.

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Speaker 6: Well. One of the things that's the key with that.

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Speaker 9: They've given up three long passes in the last two games,

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Speaker 9: two of them are with their backups against the Colts.

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Speaker 9: And they have very aggressive players. Their secondary is really good.

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Speaker 9: They're talented. Derrick Stanley Jr. First round pick, Kamari Lassiter,

474
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Speaker 9: Jalen Petrie second round picks. They've got a safety Kalen book,

475
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Speaker 9: who's got great speed and ball skills.

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Speaker 6: Those guys are good.

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Speaker 9: But one of the hallmarks of the defense, which is

478
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Speaker 9: called by Matt Ryan but as Tamiko Ransay's system, is

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Speaker 9: the aggressiveness and how quick they are, how fast to

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Speaker 9: the ball, and how hard they hit. Well, sometimes they bite,

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Speaker 9: and that's how they would hit a deep ball.

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Speaker 6: I don't even think Aaron Rodgers would have to get

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Speaker 6: a lot of time.

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Speaker 9: I know I'd back up, take three steps and just

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Speaker 9: pling it down the sideline, especially if I was getting

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Speaker 9: close to midfield, or it'd be like a punt if

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Speaker 9: it was intercepted, and test those corners and safeties and

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Speaker 9: see if they.

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Speaker 6: Would bite you.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if they'd have a time to do

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Speaker 9: double moves. Maybe he hits rout, but I would definitely

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Speaker 9: test them early, just as I'm CJ. Striuding the Texans

493
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Speaker 9: play caller Nick Kayley, I am testing the Steelers secondary

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Speaker 9: to see if what happened in the fourth quarter with

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Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson and Jay Flowers to happen again. Two games ago,

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Speaker 9: the Texans threw two deep balls in the first quarter

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Speaker 9: for touchdowns against the Chargers, never even got in the

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Speaker 9: red zone and on the first play of Indy when

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Speaker 9: the starters were in, he had another deep ball open,

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Speaker 9: but he threw his short past Adulton Schultzeres coming off

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Speaker 9: the best season in his career, So I would certainly

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Speaker 9: get out there and test the Steelers deep ball as well.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Aaron Rodgers testing the secondary of the Texans

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Speaker 3: and how aggressive they've been. I mean, wasn't it just

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Speaker 3: last week that they finally gave up enough touchdowns to

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Speaker 3: you know, Eclipse The amount of interceptions they had this year.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it like twenty to nineteen And they didn't care,

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Speaker 3: and they didn't care lest.

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Speaker 9: There was They lost the fewest points to Seattle by

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Speaker 9: think four, by putting in their reserves and can have

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Speaker 9: but they thought that was important, and of course it

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Speaker 9: is as to stats.

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Speaker 6: But they've been really good at giving up touchdowns.

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Speaker 9: Their defense has been great, and the linebackers are good,

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Speaker 9: and they're fast.

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Speaker 6: They're all under two thirty.

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Speaker 9: And you can't trust the weights they have because they

519
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Speaker 9: put the measurements they get on guys when they're coming

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Speaker 9: out of college and they never change them. But most

521
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Speaker 9: of their linebackers are for speed and so they usually

522
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Speaker 9: weigh like two twenty five to two twenty eight, so

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Speaker 9: they can move, and they aren't incredibly fast defense, but

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Speaker 9: that aggressiveness sometimes of bagfires. I know if I were teams,

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Speaker 9: I'd run screens. I'd run the old screen in which

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Speaker 9: the running back actually goes out behind the alignment, catches

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Speaker 9: the ball in the flat, and then follows those linemen

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Speaker 9: for good games. Texans offense, I don't think they know

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Speaker 9: what a screen is, and it's been so long since

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Speaker 9: I've seen them execute an effective screen the whole passion way,

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Speaker 9: I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 10: Texas don't run the ball especially well.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned you think Pittsburgh's gonna shut it down, but

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Speaker 8: they'll stick with it if the score allows them to correct.

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Speaker 2: I mean they don't.

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Speaker 10: They're not going to care about run, run punt.

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Speaker 9: One of the things they've been bad about, Mike is

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Speaker 9: they they have been a bad.

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Speaker 6: Lot of second longs.

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Speaker 9: Stroud doesn't throw a lot of passes, doesn't throw a

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Speaker 9: lot of touchdown passes, doesn't throw a lot of interceptions,

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Speaker 9: and they've been very good at protecting the ball, which

544
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Speaker 9: is one of the things. The joke here is the

545
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Speaker 9: Dolfins goes out.

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Speaker 6: Just don't turn it over and hurt the defense.

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Speaker 9: But the fact that they can't run, and you'll see

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Speaker 9: a lot of second nins, third nights because that's just

549
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Speaker 9: what they are. They never had Joe Mix And you

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Speaker 9: guys know very well, Joe had a terrific season last

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Speaker 9: year thousand yards, fourteen hundred yards counting, receiving twelve touchdowns,

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Speaker 9: and then this year put injury and kept him out

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Speaker 9: all season. So they what he marks a fourth round

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Speaker 9: pick from USSE and Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 6: Chubb was a healthy scratch.

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Speaker 9: They've had five backs get carries this season. But and

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Speaker 9: Chub's fine. You know, he wasn't what y'all saw when

558
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Speaker 9: he was great before. He was hurt with the Browns.

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Speaker 9: But he'll play a little bit too. But they don't

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Speaker 9: have any backs get long runs. Wood he marks is

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Speaker 9: better receiver. That's one of their biggest needs in the

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Speaker 9: off season.

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Speaker 6: Get a running back.

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Speaker 9: Arian Foster is still the best running back in franchise history.

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Speaker 9: He was an undrafted free agent. They've got to get

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Speaker 9: a running back who can help the offense and take

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Speaker 9: pressure off Stroud in the passing game. And so you'll

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Speaker 9: see it. They may if they get if they get

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Speaker 9: four or five yards. They're ecstatic because they just don't

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Speaker 9: get that much. I can't tell you the last time

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Speaker 9: they had one of their backs break through the line

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Speaker 9: and get third. I don't even know if it's happened

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Speaker 9: all year.

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Speaker 3: John, last thing I have for you, I'd be remiss

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Speaker 3: if I did not ask you for some some history

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Speaker 3: between these two football cities. And I know that you've

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Speaker 3: seen your fair share of Steelers in Houston football and

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Speaker 3: different incarnations. What stands out to you as one of

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Speaker 3: your all time favorite memories of Steelers, either Oilers or Texans.

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, nothing was the Steelers of Texans.

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Speaker 9: You know, the last time they played here in twenty

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Speaker 9: three the Texan detail out of them.

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Speaker 2: But that to me, and.

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Speaker 9: It's because I'm an old part. This is my fiftieth

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Speaker 9: year of covering the NFL. I remember Franco Harris told

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Speaker 9: me when we were at the Hall of Fame meeting

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Speaker 9: about five years ago. We were be asking about the

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Speaker 9: Oilers and Steelers, and he said, people thought that the

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Speaker 9: Raider rivalry was the best.

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Speaker 6: No, it was the tank of the Oilers. Our best

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Speaker 6: rival was Oilers. It was a physical, nasty.

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Speaker 9: Rivalry, but it was one out of respect, and I

593
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 9: know bum Phillips and those coaches back then had great,

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Speaker 9: great relationship with the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: The best victory that the Steelers ever had.

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Speaker 9: On the Oilers playoff Game eighty nine, Gerry Anderson. It's

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Speaker 9: the fifty yard field goal in the Dome. And people

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Speaker 9: here like, oh my god, we lost to the Steelers,

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Speaker 9: and I said, yep, but we're getting rid of Jerry Glanbet, so.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk.

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Speaker 6: About winning for losing? That was it.

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Speaker 9: And I got one memory. It's Dan Pastorini and Mike Renfro.

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Speaker 9: I've watched it again probably fifty times. I know both

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Speaker 9: those guys very well today, Pastorini, and it was such

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Speaker 9: such a controversy and it's still you know today Renfro, Pastorini, everybody.

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Speaker 9: The touchdown. That is the one play in this Franche

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Speaker 9: history that stands out to me the most is this

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Speaker 9: rivalry between these two great cities. And that's why I'm

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Speaker 9: so fired up about Monday night. People tell me, oh,

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Speaker 9: you're a dinosaur. Nobody cares about the old Oilers and Steelers,

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Speaker 9: and I said, well, I damn sure do. And I know,

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Speaker 9: out of six million people in this area, I'm not

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Speaker 9: the only one that.

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Speaker 4: Does did he catch the ball? Did Renfro catch the ball?

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Speaker 2: Moved a little bit?

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Speaker 9: I've watched it slow modes and either if Myron Cope

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Speaker 9: says his feet were in, and I've listened to the

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Speaker 9: replay with Myron.

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Speaker 6: If Myron cop the.

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Speaker 9: Ultimate Steelers homer, say he caught the ball and his

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Speaker 9: feet were in, by God, he caught that ball.

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Speaker 3: John McClean, fifty years covering the NFL. We always appreciate

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Speaker 3: your perspective here on the show. John, thanks for making

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Speaker 3: time for us this morning.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's my pleasure.

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Speaker 9: I hope all those great Steeler fans have a blast

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Speaker 9: out there at that game on Monday night.

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Speaker 6: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: John McClain here on your radio home the Steelers one

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Speaker 3: Joe bartnickin studio with us too, our buddy showp Callier

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Speaker 3: will stop by you later on We're gonna talk to

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 4: No kidd seven point thirty.

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Speaker 2: Well, people are gonna want to listen to Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 4: You hadn't heard that he was on the show today.

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Speaker 2: I had not looked like a genuine surprise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Atty Good.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's like an A lister.

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Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, Chief Award winner. Well he's earning it for

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Speaker 8: next year, that's right. Or just maybe that's how they

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Speaker 8: got him to do it. You know he wanted some ward.

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Speaker 8: You gotta go do this radio show. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: It's a bunch of knuckleheads, but you know, deal with it.

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Speaker 4: If you don't deal with the flagship, we can't give you.

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Speaker 4: The Chief Award.

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Speaker 8: Sports is not Patrick Leesman, the defensive Aaron Rodgers. It

661
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Speaker 8: just it's the guy you go to to find stuff

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Speaker 8: out and he's willing to engage.

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 10: Sports is brought to you by Bridgeville appli Its.

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Speaker 8: Yesterday was Coordinator Thursday on the South Side, but it's

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Speaker 8: also Aaron Rodgers Day because Steels didn't practice on Wednesday

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Speaker 8: because they're not playing until Monday, so everything's kind of

668
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Speaker 8: pushed back today. You think today's Friday, it's actually Thursday.

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Speaker 8: In Steeler world, I hate when they do that, but

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Speaker 8: they do that. And it turns out that embrace that

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Speaker 8: Rogers shared with head coach Mike Tomlin in the immediate

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Speaker 8: aftermath of the Steelers' last place survival of the Ravens

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Speaker 8: that won, where Rogers thank Tomlin for bringing him to

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Speaker 8: Pittsburgh and Tomlin thanked Rogers for coming then. So it

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Speaker 8: turns out that was a long time in coming.

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Speaker 6: Let's started back.

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Speaker 11: In April when I came out here and visited with him,

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Speaker 11: and then the conversations that we had, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: during those months, I've enjoyed my time with Mike immenseally.

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Speaker 11: Mike is a phenomenal leader. He's great in.

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Speaker 6: Front of the room.

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Speaker 11: Mike, we have our meetings Wednesdays and Thursday mornings with

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Speaker 11: the quarterbacks that are really really helpful seeing his perspective

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Speaker 11: on the on the plan, on the opponent every single week.

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Speaker 11: So it's been a great experience. I really appreciate Mike,

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Speaker 11: and you know, I'm just thankful that he.

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Speaker 2: Was a part of brand here.

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Speaker 4: It calls him Mike, always calls him Mike.

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Speaker 8: Well, he's allowed to about to say. It took Rogers

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Speaker 8: a while to make his decision to join the Steelers official.

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Speaker 8: You might remember in the spring occasional questioning of that,

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Speaker 8: but once Aaron Rogers was in, he was all in.

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Speaker 11: Remember, once I made the decision, I felt like it

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Speaker 11: was the right decision. There were some confirmation moments for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: when I got here day one to mini camp, I

696
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Speaker 11: felt like it was a little different in a good way,

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Speaker 11: and I liked the feeling. And then obviously the Trobe

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Speaker 11: experience was a really positive one. I'm thankful that mister

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Speaker 11: Rooney still has the team do that every single year.

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Speaker 11: It's a good chemistry, building team bonding, opportunity, and coming

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Speaker 11: out of the TROB I felt good about our team

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Speaker 11: that we've been in a position lay in the air

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Speaker 11: to play some meaningful football games.

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Speaker 8: So it's mister Rooney, but it's Mike. Yeah, well the

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Speaker 8: lone of d Mark. You take this familiarity stuff only

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Speaker 8: so far. You know, the guy that signs your checks,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna have to call mister. But like care Rogers,

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Speaker 8: I'm thankful that they go to Latrobe every year because well,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys know this about me.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like that. Well it's interesting though.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about it yesterday as I was watching

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Speaker 3: the video of Air and Rogers sitting up on the

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Speaker 3: podium there and he's got his winter hat on, and

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking, like, I know, Green Bay is

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Speaker 3: not exactly a cosmopolitan area, you know, it is most

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Speaker 3: certainly not, but he is really you know that south

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Speaker 3: side facility. You jump on a road going the other way,

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Speaker 3: it gets pretty Pennsylvania pretty fast, you know. And for

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Speaker 3: a Bay Area guy, I know again, I know he's

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Speaker 3: Green Bay, you know, baptized already. He really seems, like

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Speaker 3: I was saying, my worry was he wanted to cause

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Speaker 3: play you know, rough and tough football on his way

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Speaker 3: out and wasn't really embracing the Steeler ethos. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying by that, No, I know exactly what

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Speaker 3: you're saying, but but I don't think that anymore.

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Speaker 12: He'll always lu yes, exactly, That's what I'm getting to. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: he was in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for two years. That's thank you for writing me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Pittsburgh's awesome anyway, but compared to you know, Orange County, Jersey, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm Pennsylvania through it through, I mean, my entire life.

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Speaker 3: But those Malibu guys don't particularly Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so Green Bays a little bit more rustic than

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Speaker 8: we are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he little he seems to fit right in

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Speaker 3: with that. And so it's it was no surprise that

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Speaker 3: he loved camp, that it was all about football, but

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Speaker 3: he also seems to this seems to have been on

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Speaker 3: his on a personal level. For him, a nice respite

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Speaker 3: from all of the attention he was getting from all

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Speaker 3: the other bs is that he just dove into football.

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Speaker 3: And what better place to do it than starting out

745
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Speaker 3: in La Trobe and winding your season through Pittsburgh and.

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Speaker 2: Then a respite from the Jets.

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Speaker 8: Didn't win and they were a mess, and you know,

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Speaker 8: he's throwing straight at them throughout the year. He threw yesterday.

749
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Speaker 8: Does not like their organization, the way they run things.

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Speaker 8: He like the way they run things here, So he's

751
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Speaker 8: he's checked all his boxes. Stealers will tell you that

752
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Speaker 8: Rogers has checked all theirs that they had. This has

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Speaker 8: been a phenomenal pairing and now Rogers, in addition to

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Speaker 8: embracing his coach, is embracing a return to making the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it feels good to be back. That's why you

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Speaker 11: play you when we playing media for football late in

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Speaker 11: the season and we put ourselves in that position. You know,

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Speaker 11: I think some of it's embracing the way the season

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Speaker 11: has gone, and at six and six, a lot of

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Speaker 11: people thinking we were going to be kind of stumbling

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Speaker 11: to the finish and then who knows what was going

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Speaker 11: to happen. A lot of you probably in this group,

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Speaker 11: either publicly or privately. We're talking about Mike Teague next.

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Speaker 2: So it feels good.

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Speaker 4: Price he brought that up.

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Speaker 11: Shut all those comments down, clean the slate. Now anybody

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Speaker 11: can make a run. You know, it's the hottest team.

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Speaker 11: We've won four out of five. We're playing a lot

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Speaker 11: better football than we were there in the season. Or

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Speaker 11: lock our chances.

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Speaker 4: Very surprisely brought that up.

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Speaker 2: I'm not now.

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Speaker 8: He likes Tomin and he knows what people think of

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Speaker 8: what a certain percentage of the fan base thinks of Tomlin,

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Speaker 8: and that was his little Hey, here's the middle finger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to the playoffs. How do you like that?

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Speaker 3: I like it a lot. It's funny. Two of my

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Speaker 3: friends who I would consider to be Penguin fans before

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Speaker 3: Steeler fans, and I have a couple of friends who

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Speaker 3: are Pirate fans above everything.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Two of my more Penguin fans have independently said to me, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm really nervous for Monday night. Like it's crazy how

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Speaker 3: everybody is back in on the Steelers all of a

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: sudden that I know, we talked about it yesterday, but

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Speaker 3: the reverberation of the wake of that game against Baltimore

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Speaker 3: has been something to behold.

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Speaker 2: Because it's not hyperbole.

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Speaker 8: When we described that as one of the great games

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Speaker 8: in Steelers Ravens. Yes, understanding Steelers Ravens system right, it

791
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 8: was one of the great games in Hinzfield slash actors

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Speaker 8: your stadium mystery understanding the history of that, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you don't get there might be another twenty years until

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00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 8: we see that it's true.

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Speaker 4: That fourth quarter was unbelievadible.

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Speaker 8: It's like, you know, you watch the NFL, Oh, the

797
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 8: officiating sucks and I hate this rule and replay this

798
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 8: so you can find a million things to complain about when.

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Speaker 2: You're watching an NFL game, and.

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Speaker 10: Then you get that like, oh, I get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: that's why I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 4: Sports are the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I forgot. I forgot we didn't score before halftime.

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Speaker 3: I mean I got it to be reminded of that. Yes,

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00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's right. I totally forgot about

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00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: that part of the drama. Like the entire game was

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Speaker 3: just this non stop build.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 12: I end up thinking, like, what is Mike and Ternally

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Speaker 12: going to have to deal with on the phone, And

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Speaker 12: that's what I Yeah, it's all gonna come down to

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Speaker 12: that play at the end of the half. Yeah, for

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Speaker 12: the postgames, but if I am one of the Penguin fans,

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Speaker 12: I am not nervous.

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Speaker 2: This is what you live for.

817
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Speaker 12: You live for the playoffs, and I don't want to

818
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 12: jinx about I just got a good feeling.

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Speaker 4: I gotta good feeling too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. You got to embrace these games.

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Speaker 8: There has to be a threat to make it as

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Speaker 8: satisfying as it can be. You know, to quote Tom Hanks,

823
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 8: in a league of their own, the hard is what

824
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Speaker 8: makes it great.

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Speaker 3: Abby's got your news when we come back, an Oakland

826
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Speaker 3: institution is closing, and believe it or not, there's another

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Speaker 3: Jackass movie in the works.

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Speaker 13: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought

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Speaker 2: Here's Tom Opferman.

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Speaker 14: The Steelers will host their first playoff game in five

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Speaker 14: years Monday night, when they welcome the Houston Texans to

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Speaker 14: town for the final game of wild Card Weekend. It's

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Speaker 14: tough to find many weaknesses when examining the Texans, who

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Speaker 14: are the NFL's hottest team heading into the playoffs with

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Speaker 14: a nine game winning streak. One area, however, where Houston

839
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Speaker 14: isn't particularly strong is running the ball. On the offensive

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Speaker 14: side of the ball, Houston average is just three point

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Speaker 14: nine yards per carry, which is better than only four

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Speaker 14: other teams in the NFL, and their nine rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 14: as a team is second few is the head of

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Speaker 14: only the Las Vegas Raiders for the season. Woodie marxis

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Speaker 14: Houston's leading rusher with seven hundred and three yards of

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Speaker 14: the season, but is averaging just three point six yards

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Speaker 14: per carry with just two touchdowns in sixteen games.

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Speaker 10: The Steelers run defense.

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Speaker 14: Despite giving up one hundred and thirty seven yards to

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Speaker 14: Ravens on the ground last week, has averaged just seventy

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Speaker 14: three point three yards per game allowed via the run

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Speaker 14: over the past four games and shouldn't have a problem

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Speaker 14: completely shutting down Houston's lackluster rushing attack. Kickoff between the

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Speaker 14: Texans and the Steelers is Monday night at eight fifteen.

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Speaker 14: I'm Tom Aferman with the Steelers

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Speaker 4: Report five hospitals