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Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, everybody. Welcome to the Bengals pep Rally Show
Speaker 3: presented by Just Bear Chicken. We are live on ESPN
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty and as is the case every Friday afternoon,
Speaker 3: we are broadcasting from the On the Rhine Eatery. It's
Speaker 3: the food hall above the downtown Kroger that's at the
Speaker 3: intersection of Court and Walnut. Lots of inexpensive eateries here
Speaker 3: at the On the Rhine Eatery, there's a full service
Speaker 3: bar as well, plenty of seats. There's a parking garage attached.
Speaker 3: It's a great spot for our Friday afternoon Bengals pep
Speaker 3: Rally Show. I'm Dan Hord along with Dave Lapham. We
Speaker 3: are here until six o'clock tonight and our special guest
Speaker 3: in the final hour of the show for the second
Speaker 3: week in a row, and we greatly appreciate it. Is
Speaker 3: going to be the Cincinnati Kid Bengals legend, Sam.
Speaker 4: Hubbard, and he is the jet at Bengals legend. There's
Speaker 4: there's no question about it. Iconic plays in Sam Hubbard's
Speaker 4: career with the Cincinnati Bengals. The fumble in the jungle
Speaker 4: when he recovers the football two yards deep in the
Speaker 4: end zone and goes one hundred and two yards to
Speaker 4: pay dirt, serpentineing his way down the football field from
Speaker 4: about midfield into the end zone. And then the two
Speaker 4: point conversion that that was deflected and blocked and Sam
Speaker 4: made a play on and that was huge. That football
Speaker 4: game ended up being a big, big game, uh, deciding
Speaker 4: play in that football game as well. So I mean,
Speaker 4: for defensive player to have two plays like that in
Speaker 4: franchise history is I mean rare, very unusual and couldn't
Speaker 4: happen to a better guy. Sam Hubbard's good people.
Speaker 3: We are six days from Christmas. I know there are
Speaker 3: plenty of people listening that are like me. They've still
Speaker 3: got lots of shopping to do. If you've got a
Speaker 3: Bengals fan on your Christmas list. Here's what you do.
Speaker 3: You go to the Bengals Pro shop at the stadium
Speaker 3: between now and five o'clock. You pick up it can
Speaker 3: be an inexpensive item, mini football, mini helmet, pennant, something
Speaker 3: like that. You slept over here, inexpensive parking spot. You
Speaker 3: come in when Sam Hubbard is here and during the
Speaker 3: commercial breaks, he will willingly sign free autographs, no question,
Speaker 3: no charge. So you can get that Bengals fan on
Speaker 3: your Christmas list an awesome signed item from a Bengals legend,
Speaker 3: and they will think you are the best friend and
Speaker 3: or relative in the family.
Speaker 5: No question.
Speaker 4: You'd have a bigger place in heart than Santa claus Man.
Speaker 4: I mean a personalized Sam Hubbard football. That would be huge,
Speaker 4: That would be on everybody's mantle for sure.
Speaker 3: So Sam will be here from five to six lap
Speaker 3: and I are here from now until six as we
Speaker 3: get you set for Sunday's game. The Bengals playing their
Speaker 3: final road game of the year one o'clock on Sunday
Speaker 3: against the Miami Dolphins. This might be the biggest temperature
Speaker 3: swing for a team from one game to the next
Speaker 3: in the history of mankind. Well, actually, now that I
Speaker 3: think of that, back when they were still the San
Speaker 3: Diego Chargers, they came to the Freezer Bowl having played
Speaker 3: in Miami the week before, and since the wind show
Speaker 3: was fifty nine below, that's the record. But this will
Speaker 3: come close. It was single digits during the game last Sunday.
Speaker 3: It is expected to be in the low eighties on
Speaker 3: Sunday in Miami.
Speaker 4: And you know, guys that I talked to after the game,
Speaker 4: they talked about how miserable they were during the course
Speaker 4: of that football game physically, I mean very, very tough
Speaker 4: to deal with, and then you know, you have to
Speaker 4: be tough mentally as well to realize that you've just
Speaker 4: got to keep playing. You got to continue to play.
Speaker 4: You've got to continue to put forth the best effort
Speaker 4: you possibly can uh and you know you can't. There's things,
Speaker 4: elements and conditions you can't control, and the cold is
Speaker 4: one of them.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: It was very, very cold, to say the least. I
Speaker 4: did play in that Freezer Ball you referenced in God,
Speaker 4: I've never ever experienced that feeling and never want to again.
Speaker 4: I mean totally numb. My entire body was totally numb,
Speaker 4: and I've never never come close to experiencing that again
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: I know guys that we've talked to over the years
Speaker 3: that say playing in the Freezer Bowl changed their you
Speaker 3: know psych or not psychology, their physiology for the rest
Speaker 3: of their lives. They felt colder in cold weather for
Speaker 3: the rest of their lives. Some guys had serious frostbite
Speaker 3: in that game. So I guess despite going out there
Speaker 3: in short sleeves, you were a little bit lucky in
Speaker 3: the sense that you did not suffer long term effects.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did lower my thermostat though being from New England,
Speaker 4: I've tolerated cold. You know, I had a cold, you know,
Speaker 4: single digits teens. I mean, but man, that that wins.
Speaker 4: The wind was whipping off the Ohio River and it
Speaker 4: was just it was ridiculously brutal, there's no question. And
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I mean, guys, it changed changed a lot
Speaker 4: of lives, changed guys' lives, the way they they they handled, uh,
Speaker 4: they handled temperatures and weather conditions. It's not an easy thing,
Speaker 4: not an easy thing to deal with. And to play football,
Speaker 4: playing a kid's game. You know, it's like people people
Speaker 4: were like, they asked me all the time, why didn't
Speaker 4: they postpone that game, Why didn't they just delay it
Speaker 4: for twenty four hours? They came close, came close, but
Speaker 4: the NFL decided that you know, all the fans were there.
Speaker 4: Every people had traveled a good distance to stay in
Speaker 4: hotels to attend the game. They didn't want to disrupt
Speaker 4: that and disrupt people's holidays.
Speaker 3: I never met the late great Phil Samp, the original
Speaker 3: radio voice right of the Bengals, your first broadcast partner
Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Bengals. If I had the opportunity to
Speaker 3: tell to Phill, I'd want to know if he left
Speaker 3: the window open for the Freezer Bowl.
Speaker 5: He did, Yeah, we did. We opened the window.
Speaker 3: Well, you're on the field, But I wonder if he opened.
Speaker 5: The right for that game. He did.
Speaker 4: He's he's a window open guy, Yeah, he's he's. I
Speaker 4: want the natural conditions. I want to experience, but the
Speaker 4: players are experiencing.
Speaker 3: And we weren't allowed this past week. They insisted that
Speaker 3: the windows remained cold or closed because they were concerned
Speaker 3: that the pipes are going to burst.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wonder, Uh, I guess, I guess
Speaker 4: they if they had that concern back in the Freezer
Speaker 4: Blell days They totally dismissed it right away.
Speaker 5: They didn't give it a second thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pipes at Riverfront Cares go ahead, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: All right. Well, it's been an eventful week, to say
Speaker 3: the least for the Cincinnati Bengals. It started early in
Speaker 3: the week when our friend and colleague Paul Danner Junior,
Speaker 3: does a great job of covering the Bengals for The Athletic,
Speaker 3: wrote a story about the job security for people like
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, Duke Tobin, et cetera. And in the twin
Speaker 3: paragraph of a story that he wrote several days ago,
Speaker 3: he casually dropped in the fact that Zach Taylor has
Speaker 3: two years left on his contract, not one which had
Speaker 3: widely been the thought. A year apparently was quietly added
Speaker 3: to his deal after the Bengals went to their second
Speaker 3: consecutive AFC Championship game in twenty twenty two. Here's my
Speaker 3: feeling on the subject, lap I didn't really think that
Speaker 3: Zach was in that much jeopardy. Yep, now Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: feels about him, and now Mike Brown feels about him.
Speaker 3: I think, in light of the fact that Joe's only
Speaker 3: played in four games this season, Mike Brown wasn't likely
Speaker 3: to pin a bad year on the head coach, So
Speaker 3: in that sense, I don't really think the contract is
Speaker 3: a huge factor. Now, having said that, there are three
Speaker 3: games left in this season, and the Bengals organization, they
Speaker 3: are always the type that are going to wait until
Speaker 3: all of the data points are in and then make
Speaker 3: any decision they're going to make. So the last three
Speaker 3: games went terribly, Zach has probably not one hundred percent
Speaker 3: guaranteed of being back, but my suspicion is regardless of
Speaker 3: whether there's one year left on his deal or two,
Speaker 3: he's almost certainly coming back.
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more, you know, and I
Speaker 4: think most NFL coaches and really most organizations look at
Speaker 4: it as you know, you may have signed a three
Speaker 4: year contract, but it's it's year to year anyway. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you absolutely crap your breeches and you prove that
Speaker 4: you you know, why why did we even do this?
Speaker 4: You should not be coaching a head coach in the
Speaker 4: National Football League. There's no question about it. You're in
Speaker 4: way over your head, You're drowning, and you're not going
Speaker 4: to be able to be saved. I do I do
Speaker 4: think that Mike Brown because his dad was a legendary
Speaker 4: coach in the NFL, and his dad talked to him
Speaker 4: about the pressures of coaching in the day to day
Speaker 4: grind of a of a head coach. He basically taught
Speaker 4: Mike to honor contracts and contracts were your word, you know.
Speaker 4: And Mike Brown's always been that way. And I think
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor is about as safe as almost any head
Speaker 4: coach in the National Football League because of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a few things come into play. As
Speaker 3: you said, I do think that Mike feels that way
Speaker 3: about the contracts that he gives to his coaches. I
Speaker 3: think the fact that his dad got fired in Cleveland
Speaker 3: despite winning all of those championships and disrupted all the
Speaker 3: lives of the coaches, the families, the assistant coaches, etc.
Speaker 3: I think that means something to Mike. The other thing
Speaker 3: I think that comes into play is that Mike, at
Speaker 3: least this is my belief from having talked to Mike before,
Speaker 3: he thinks when you change coaches, you're more likely to
Speaker 3: take an initial step back yep, before you move forward.
Speaker 3: And I think he believes that this team is not
Speaker 3: far away from being back in contention. They obviously have
Speaker 3: to fix the defense, right, everybody knows that. But all
Speaker 3: the good players are going to be back on offense.
Speaker 3: You've got one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 3: hopefully stays healthy for seventeen games next year. And if
Speaker 3: this defense can just be decent, yeah it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be top five, but just absent. Yeah, this team
Speaker 3: should be in the playoffs. And if Joe Burrow gets
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, you know what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, I agree with you, Dan, if the
Speaker 4: defense can somehow under the guidance and leadership of Al
Speaker 4: Golden be fifteen sixteen. In terms, I'm talking about points loud.
Speaker 4: You know other things yardage, pit yards, passing, yards, rushing.
Speaker 4: Those are circumstances that are dictated on a week to
Speaker 4: week basis. They're different. I mean, from one week to
Speaker 4: the next, it could be a totally different dynamic that
Speaker 4: you're dealing with defensively. So my thing is, don't be
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the barrel in terms of points
Speaker 4: we lowed. I mean, that's way too much pressure on
Speaker 4: your offense. And they do have pieces. The biggest piece
Speaker 4: is I think they have the best quarterback in the
Speaker 4: National Football League. And I don't care if you're talking
Speaker 4: pee wee football, junior, high school, high school, college, or
Speaker 4: the NFL. The most important position is the quarterback position,
Speaker 4: and the Bengals are in great shape there and he
Speaker 4: has weapons to throw the football to. Jamar Chase is
Speaker 4: as good as there is in the National Football League.
Speaker 4: T Higgins, I think will play. I maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe hoping against hope, and I have a strong feeling
Speaker 4: that he's going to be okay. You know he will.
Speaker 4: He's dealing with concussions and those aren't no joke. You
Speaker 4: don't mess with that. You make sure that everything's the
Speaker 4: way it should be in terms of how you're dealing
Speaker 4: with you know, your brain. So it's it's I don't
Speaker 4: want to dismiss it, but I think that weapon, that
Speaker 4: one two punch of Jamar Chase and T Higgins with
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow throwing the football is as good as there
Speaker 4: is in the National Football League. So I have confidence
Speaker 4: that Al Golden can figure it out. And they are
Speaker 4: missing some pieces on the defense side of foot of
Speaker 4: the football. They have some not enough pieces on the
Speaker 4: defensive side of the football. But if they can't, think
Speaker 4: can somehow climb to mediocrity, and by that I mean
Speaker 4: the middle of the pack.
Speaker 3: Sixteen, go with average instead of mediocrity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right, that sounds better. You're right.
Speaker 4: It's a passing grade that average. So yeah, if they
Speaker 4: can get to fifteen or sixteen, you know, I think
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that they have to do on a
Speaker 4: weekly basis is cause turnovers create turnovers. If the Bengals
Speaker 4: can be on the plus side of the turnover ratio
Speaker 4: on a week to week basis, with Joe Burrow at quarterback,
Speaker 4: giving him more possessions than the opponent has, you're taking
Speaker 4: possessions away from the opponent and giving him to Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: I think he can beat anybody.
Speaker 3: Earlier this week, Zach Taylor talked about his confidence in
Speaker 3: his ability to get this thing turned back around in
Speaker 3: the right direction. Joe Burrow discussed the topic as well.
Speaker 3: Let's hear from the head coach and his quarterback.
Speaker 6: I'm confident we're going to make the best decisions for
Speaker 6: the organization. It's I got a ton of belief in
Speaker 6: our coaching staff, our scouting department, our ownership that we
Speaker 6: are very much in alignment with every decision we've ever
Speaker 6: made here, and so again when things haven't been good
Speaker 6: enough over the course of this season, there's really no
Speaker 6: one to blame other than me, truthfully, and so I
Speaker 6: know we all play a piece of this, but I'm
Speaker 6: the guy that gets to sit there and talk to
Speaker 6: the team every single week and present plans and make
Speaker 6: in game decisions, and so frustrating that I haven't done
Speaker 6: any job this year, but a ton of confidence, and
Speaker 6: maybe it rings hollow to everyone listening, but I know
Speaker 6: that we've been here before and I've seen how we
Speaker 6: can get out the other side.
Speaker 5: I'm very confident we're going to get that.
Speaker 7: Don I think we have great coaches. I think we're
Speaker 7: consistently putting good positions to make plays and do our best. Obviously,
Speaker 7: there's good games and bad games, just like players have
Speaker 7: good games in bad games. But I have a lot
Speaker 7: of confidence and everybody that's putting together the plans for
Speaker 7: us weekend and week out.
Speaker 5: That's not to say that.
Speaker 7: Changes don't need to be made saying personnel or people.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, you know, what we've been doing hasn't
Speaker 7: worked the last couple of years, so you know, we
Speaker 7: have to think outside the box and get creative about
Speaker 7: where we go from here.
Speaker 6: All we want to do is win and bring championships
Speaker 6: here in Cincinnati, and we'll do whatever it takes to
Speaker 6: put it specific words on how that's going to look.
Speaker 6: That's all for us behind the scenes to work through
Speaker 6: it and make sure we do all that. But I
Speaker 6: have absolute confidence that we have the right people and
Speaker 6: the right setups to make this happen, because we've proven
Speaker 6: it and we'll prove it again.
Speaker 7: We haven't been where we want to be the last
Speaker 7: three years. A big part of that is the injuries.
Speaker 5: On my end, I've.
Speaker 7: Played one full season. I've played four games this year.
Speaker 7: It's hard to make an impact on a season when
Speaker 7: you play four games, So that's an emphasis. Obviously, you
Speaker 7: need to figure out a way to be available for
Speaker 7: everybody here, and so as far as what I can control,
Speaker 7: that's something that is on top of my mind for me.
Speaker 3: As Joe Burrow just said, we haven't been where we
Speaker 3: want to be over the last three years, and that's
Speaker 3: obviously the case. But I do want to point out
Speaker 3: one thing to me, this is a two year failure,
Speaker 3: not a three year failure, because at twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: that team was going to the playoffs and had a
Speaker 3: chance to go a long way in the postseason when
Speaker 3: Joe hurt his wrist. When with seven games to go,
Speaker 3: they went on the road and beat San Francisco, they
Speaker 3: dominated Buffalo in a home game. They started slowly that year,
Speaker 3: Joe was coming back from the calf injury. Once his
Speaker 3: calf was healthy, that team was starting to look like
Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the NFL. Then he
Speaker 3: suffers the wrist injury when they had the lead on
Speaker 3: the road on a Thursday night in Baltimore. They still
Speaker 3: managed to go four and three with Jake Browning because
Speaker 3: the whole team was so good. There's no doubt in
Speaker 3: my mind. They went at least one more of those
Speaker 3: last seven games, maybe a couple with Joe Burrow instead
Speaker 3: of Jake Browning. Then they're in their playoffs. Then who
Speaker 3: knows what would have happened in twenty twenty three. So
Speaker 3: I put a little asterisk on twenty twenty three. The
Speaker 3: last two years though, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Failure, yeah, absolutely, and the common denominator is adding twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three as well. The inavailability aren't availability of Joe Borrow.
Speaker 4: I mean you know, he's he's he's the key, I mean,
Speaker 4: the guy when he's at the helm, when he's at
Speaker 4: the controls, when he's deciding what to do with the.
Speaker 5: Football, where to put it, how to distribute it. They win.
Speaker 4: They win a high percentage of the time. And you know,
Speaker 4: any team in the National Football League if they lose
Speaker 4: their guy, if the Rams lose Stafford, you know, for example,
Speaker 4: they're going to struggle. I mean, it's not going to
Speaker 4: be the same. It's just not going to be that way.
Speaker 4: So if the Baltimore Ravens lose Lamar Jackson, it's different
Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to make adjustments and do things differently.
Speaker 4: I do think the one thing that the Bengals are
Speaker 4: probably a little bit unique around in the National Football
Speaker 4: League is how collaborative they are in terms of personnel.
Speaker 4: I mean they Zach was talking about it today, how
Speaker 4: they talk every every day. I mean, he'll he'll talk
Speaker 4: to Duke, the scouting department, ownership, other coaches, everybody is,
Speaker 4: you know, in communication talking about who's gonna play, how
Speaker 4: how long we're gonna play him, how many snaps are
Speaker 4: you gonna get, who are gonna rotate, which which one
Speaker 4: of the younger guys who are gonna put it in
Speaker 4: a rotation to see if that guy is somebody that
Speaker 4: we can work with down the road, if he's part
Speaker 4: of a big piece of the puzzle or not. So
Speaker 4: I don't think there are many organizations in the National
Speaker 4: Football League that are built that way, structured that way,
Speaker 4: put together that way. Like the Cincinnati Bengals are Mike Brown,
Speaker 4: He's not, you know, the Bengals ownership is just a
Speaker 4: part time thing, and then he's in seven different businesses
Speaker 4: that he's part of and making decisions. This is it,
Speaker 4: this is his life. He's a football lifer and draw
Speaker 4: many of those in the National Football League from the
Speaker 4: nornship perspective.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Mike will be behind his desk
Speaker 3: next Thursday, Christmas Day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he might be. He could be.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you the other three sixty four he's.
Speaker 5: There, agreed.
Speaker 4: I mean for you know, not not burning up ten
Speaker 4: twelve hour days. But he's in there. And when he's
Speaker 4: in there, he is. He is totally and unabatteredly focused
Speaker 4: on on football and how he's going to improve his
Speaker 4: football team. He lives, breathes, sleeps, eats, football.
Speaker 3: And he probably will be there next Thursday as well,
Speaker 3: because there's a game a few days later. Right, all right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna take a time out. The Bengals made a
Speaker 3: roster move today. We'll tell you about that when we
Speaker 3: come back. One guy in, One guy out. This is
Speaker 3: the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Beared Chicken.
Speaker 3: We are live at the On the Rhine Eatery, the
Speaker 3: food hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut.
Speaker 3: We're here until six o'clock tonight, and Sam Hubbard will
Speaker 3: be our special guest from five to six. You are
Speaker 3: listening to The Bengals pep Rally Show on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3: Dan Old and Dave Lap them back on the Bengals
Speaker 3: pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. Life from
Speaker 3: the On the Rhine Eatery, the food hall above the
Speaker 3: downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. Come out and join us.
Speaker 3: We're here until six o'clock. All sorts of great food
Speaker 3: available here and it is inexpensive. The city's best dry
Speaker 3: rub wings, plus burgers, plus sushi, lots of other great
Speaker 3: stuff here again, it's the On the Rhine eatery. There's
Speaker 3: a full service bar as well. Come out, grab some
Speaker 3: to eat, have a beverage. Get ready for the Bengals
Speaker 3: and Dolphins coming up this Sunday. At one o'clock, it
Speaker 3: is time for the Kettering Health injury report on a
Speaker 3: Friday afternoon. Here who is out? Here's who are out
Speaker 3: for the Bengal on Sunday in Miami. Joseph Osaiah is out,
Speaker 3: Charlie Jones is out, and Noah Fant is out. The
Speaker 3: following guys that listed is questionable T Higgins, although he
Speaker 3: was a full participate in practice today as he comes
Speaker 3: back from the concussion protocol. BJ Hill listed as questionable.
Speaker 3: It sounds like bj is going to be able to play,
Speaker 3: but he is listed as questionable. PJ Jewels also listed
Speaker 3: as questionable. There was also a roster move today. Chris
Speaker 3: Jenkins is finished for the rest of the year. He
Speaker 3: suffered a significant enough ankle injury last week that he
Speaker 3: is going to be placed on injured reserves, so he'll
Speaker 3: miss the rest of this season. But his response his
Speaker 3: spot on the roster has been filled by Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3: So good to have the first round draft pick back
Speaker 3: for the last few games of the year. It's been
Speaker 3: a tough year for Schamar. First was the contract squabble
Speaker 3: that caused him to miss all of the OTA's got
Speaker 3: a late start when training camp got under way, had
Speaker 3: a good camp, played very well in the season opener
Speaker 3: against Cleveland, then got hurt in week two. He missed
Speaker 3: four games. He came back and he played three, he
Speaker 3: got hurt again. Now he's missed the last five games.
Speaker 3: He comes back in time to hopefully play in the
Speaker 3: final three games at the year. Let's hear from Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3: I'm making his return this week.
Speaker 8: What I was doing well before the first time I
Speaker 8: got heard. You know, I feel like I was pretty
Speaker 8: good in the running, I was pretty stout. My body
Speaker 8: was one hundred percent, you know, nothing lingering. I was
Speaker 8: getting more familiar to playbook. And then you know, injury happened.
Speaker 8: Came back for another two games, and what another injury happened.
Speaker 8: So you know, just sucks. You know, just gotta keep
Speaker 8: your head on right, you know, keep you just know
Speaker 8: this better days ahead. Oh, it's been a long year. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's been a long year for sure, you know, but
Speaker 8: you know, you just gotta keep you just gotta be
Speaker 8: where your feet are, you know, Nexte.
Speaker 5: Hopefully next year is a better year for me.
Speaker 3: Well, next year's almost certain to be a better year
Speaker 3: for him, because he's been heard so much this year.
Speaker 3: It's funny how that's happened to the Bengals first round
Speaker 3: pick so many times over the years. Happened to Tyler Riifford,
Speaker 3: happened to Will Jackson, there have been others. Hopefully Shamar
Speaker 3: comes back healthy. He's with the team throughout everything in
Speaker 3: the offseason as a normal training camp, and we can
Speaker 3: see just what this guy is capable of doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, because like you said, you know, almost like
Speaker 4: a throwaway comment, keep my feet under me, you know,
Speaker 4: I just gotta keep my feet under That's what it's
Speaker 4: that's been his problem. His problem is he's been hurt
Speaker 4: so much. I mean, he's been injured more than he's
Speaker 4: been healthy. He's been unavailable more than he's been available
Speaker 4: to the team, and it's frustrating to everybody, him in particular.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got to be the most frustrated because
Speaker 4: he's the one that's having to work through the treatment
Speaker 4: for injuries, the rehabilitation for injuries, everything goes along with it,
Speaker 4: but I mean the organization. He's he's got unbelieve physical traits.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a if you taped necessary traits to
Speaker 4: be a defensive end successfully in the National Football League,
Speaker 4: play that position successfully, he would become His body type
Speaker 4: comes spitting.
Speaker 5: Out of the ground.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing. But he just man and to
Speaker 4: boot he's got. I mean, the coaches, his teammates, they
Speaker 4: all talk about his football like you. He understands the game.
Speaker 4: He understands the game at a very high level. You know,
Speaker 4: he's not just some schmoe off the street that's you know,
Speaker 4: let me go play some football. It's it's very, very frustrating,
Speaker 4: you know. I feel badly for the kid because he
Speaker 4: does have something to give the city of Cincinnati's something
Speaker 4: to give his teammates and himself, and because he can
Speaker 4: play football like very few can.
Speaker 3: He's got at least three years left on that deal,
Speaker 3: so hopefully we see the real Schamar Stewart next year.
Speaker 3: Then there's the case of Chris Jenkins. Last year, the
Speaker 3: second round draft pick broke his thumb just before the
Speaker 3: start of the season. Played a big chunk of the
Speaker 3: year with a giant club on his hand. That's hard
Speaker 3: to do when you're playing defensive tackle. He's played reasonably
Speaker 3: well this year. I think he's certainly a guy where
Speaker 3: you would say the arrow is pointing up. Let's hear
Speaker 3: from head coach Zach Taylor as he kind of sums
Speaker 3: up the progress that Chris Jenkins made this year before
Speaker 3: going on injured reserve today.
Speaker 6: The part that I did see was just his football
Speaker 6: IQ really starts to take shape with all the experience
Speaker 6: he was scanning so understanding how the alian's playing, different
Speaker 6: calls they're making. He was doing a good job communicating
Speaker 6: with the D line. Thinks he was becoming aware of
Speaker 6: that was giving everyone a better chance of succeeding. So
Speaker 6: I think that element is critical that you see really
Speaker 6: good D line in the league have that understanding. They
Speaker 6: understand what the calls the line are making and what's
Speaker 6: coming at him and how to defeat it. So I
Speaker 6: think that's been a really good step in Chris's progression
Speaker 6: that was starting to really show up.
Speaker 5: Lapp.
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of ceiling Chris Jenkins has.
Speaker 3: I don't ever see him being a pro bowler. I
Speaker 3: could definitely see him being a very valuable rotational defensive tackle,
Speaker 3: no drop off you know from if he's not a
Speaker 3: starter from the guy that he's you know, playing behind,
Speaker 3: or maybe as a solid starter. That's who he feels
Speaker 3: like to me two years into his career.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair, Dan, I mean, I think he's
Speaker 4: a guy that could have seven eight year NFL career
Speaker 4: on a rotational basis as a defensive tackle going in there.
Speaker 4: And it's funny you talk about the football IQ. We
Speaker 4: talked about Shamar Stewart with his Chris Jenkins with his
Speaker 4: I can tell you that, like when Zach was talking
Speaker 4: about how Jenkins will, you know, make calls based on
Speaker 4: what he's hearing the offensive line communicating that's high level.
Speaker 4: Mike Reid did that, He's drive me nuts.
Speaker 5: Me he'd be he'd he'd you.
Speaker 4: Know, we'd make a call, you know, I made the
Speaker 4: call for the calls to the offensive line, I'd make
Speaker 4: a call. He'd counter it. You know, It's like we're
Speaker 4: playing chess, you know, and he'd make his move, his
Speaker 4: his counter move, and then there's not a whole lot
Speaker 4: of time, you know, to do anything else as the
Speaker 4: play clocks winding down. So having a guy with that
Speaker 4: kind of football intelligence as well as physical ability. I mean,
Speaker 4: Mike Reid was like that dude was so damn quick.
Speaker 4: I mean I was like, I know, how didn't close
Speaker 4: my eyes? How did he get from there to there
Speaker 4: so quickly? It's it's incredible how some of these guys
Speaker 4: are so gifted physically. But yeah, Chris Jenkins, you know Zach,
Speaker 4: Zach loves him because you know, there's so many guys
Speaker 4: in this football team that have intelligence, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: football intelligence plus raw intelligence, basic understanding, book smart intelligence, uh,
Speaker 4: and good people. You know that that's the thing this
Speaker 4: football team. You know, your heart kind of aches for
Speaker 4: him a little bit because they are good people that care,
Speaker 4: that care about their performance, care about wins and losses,
Speaker 4: care about doing well for the community.
Speaker 3: And we are going to hear from another person like
Speaker 3: that when we come back. The Bengals did not score
Speaker 3: in last week's lost to the Baltimore Ravens. We'll hear
Speaker 3: from a member of the tight end core about that
Speaker 3: when we continue. You're listening to the Bengals pep Rally
Speaker 3: Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from the on
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Speaker 3: at Court and Walnut. We're here until six o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3: Sam Hubber joined us at five on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3: Dan Ordon Dave Lapham back in the Bengals pep Rally
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Speaker 3: hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. Mike
Speaker 3: Mills is with us here at the On the Rochet Eatery.
Speaker 3: He is our engineer. Austin Elmore is back in the studio.
Speaker 3: Sam Hubber is going to be our special guest from
Speaker 3: five to six this afternoon. Well, Joe Burrow's been back
Speaker 3: for three weeks. In his first game back, the Bengals
Speaker 3: scored thirty two points on the road and beat Baltimore.
Speaker 3: In his second game back, they scored thirty four points
Speaker 3: and unfortunately lost at Buffalo, and then last week they
Speaker 3: didn't score. It's the first time in Joe Burrow's career
Speaker 3: as a starting quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals that the
Speaker 3: Bengals got shut out. Now, the frigid temperatures probably had
Speaker 3: something to do with that. Joe, by his own admission
Speaker 3: did not play particularly well. Let's hear from tight end
Speaker 3: Tanner Hudson. Tanner Hudson, who had three catches in the
Speaker 3: game for Cincinnati, about Cincinnati's inability to score against the
Speaker 3: Ravens last week.
Speaker 9: And anytime you get shut out in a big game
Speaker 9: like that, you definitely go back to the drawing board
Speaker 9: a little bit kind of see what went what went wrong,
Speaker 9: and where it went wrong. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 9: think for all those guys, especially with the talent that
Speaker 9: we have in the room, putting up zero points is
Speaker 9: just it's unacceptable for us.
Speaker 3: I think the Bengals were inside the thirty two yard
Speaker 3: line five times and did not score, which is highly unusual.
Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley dropped a touchdown pass on the very next play,
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow threw a pick six, Andrea Yosi vash dropped
Speaker 3: about a forty yard pass. Jamar Chase, who rarely drops
Speaker 3: passes at least since his very first training camp, had
Speaker 3: a couple of drops last week. Joe Burrow made some
Speaker 3: highly unusual poor decisions terms of protections and some of
Speaker 3: the things that he did in that game. So it
Speaker 3: was a team effort in failing to put any points
Speaker 3: on the board.
Speaker 4: Right when you get shut out. Nobody did well and
Speaker 4: you did a good job of so many different components,
Speaker 4: so many different players had issues, made big mistakes, didn't
Speaker 4: execute the way that they needed to execute. And Joe Burrow,
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, dan very forthright, very honest, and look
Speaker 4: the way I played. If I played for any team
Speaker 4: in the NFL last week, they wouldn't have won the
Speaker 4: football game. All thirty two teams would have come up
Speaker 4: on the short end of the stick. The way I played.
Speaker 4: I have to be better. I have to do better.
Speaker 4: I respect the hell out of him for saying that
Speaker 4: and doing that. That's just the way he is. I mean,
Speaker 4: he is the leader. The capital L capital E capital
Speaker 4: A capitol, the D capital, the ee capitol R. He
Speaker 4: is the leader, and he comports himself that way, he
Speaker 4: acts that way. So I do think, though, you have
Speaker 4: to dive into that tape, take a look at that
Speaker 4: tape and see what you did right, if anything, and
Speaker 4: there's not too much, that's not a long part of tape,
Speaker 4: part of the tape, but to see what you did wrong,
Speaker 4: why you did it wrong, what you need to do
Speaker 4: to correct it and get it corrected and get it done,
Speaker 4: and get it done quickly. You want to win these
Speaker 4: last three football games. If you can win these last
Speaker 4: three football games, you can salvage a little bit going
Speaker 4: into an offseason. You want to go in on an
Speaker 4: up note. If you win three in a row to
Speaker 4: finish the season, you're going in on an up note.
Speaker 3: Miami's defense is middle of the pack. They're thirty two
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL. They're tied for sixteenth and points allowed,
Speaker 3: so smack dab in the middle. Their defense had been
Speaker 3: playing well of late. They gave up twenty eight on
Speaker 3: Monday and a loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but prior
Speaker 3: to that, in their previous four games, they had given
Speaker 3: up thirteen, thirteen, seventeen to ten. So four straight games
Speaker 3: on defense where they did not allow twenty points. Now,
Speaker 3: three of those games were against bad teams, but one
Speaker 3: was against Buffalo and they only gave up thirteen to
Speaker 3: the Bills.
Speaker 4: That's impressive, I mean very impressive. Yeah, Jared Allen and
Speaker 4: Josh excuse me, Josh Allen. Yeah, Jared, that'd be good.
Speaker 4: A defensivevent getting after.
Speaker 3: The he was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: He's definitely a Hall of Famer. He boy, he and
Speaker 4: Anthony Moon has had some stirring battles, but I digress.
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is legit. I mean, he's gonna be in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame himself. So you hold that Buffalo
Speaker 4: Bills offense thirteen points. Job well done, no question about it.
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor very very complimentary of Baltimore's defense, saying, you
Speaker 4: know that he just likes the way they're put together.
Speaker 4: He likes the way McDonald's has structured that defensive football team.
Speaker 4: This minded me Dolphin team. The thing when I watch
Speaker 4: them on tape, when I watch their games, their game film,
Speaker 4: they all run to the ball. Their pursuit is outstanding. Man,
Speaker 4: There'll be like three or four guys in position to
Speaker 4: make a play. One does, but if he doesn't for
Speaker 4: some reason, there's plenty of support there in case somebody
Speaker 4: else has.
Speaker 5: To make one.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take a time out. When we
Speaker 3: come back, we're gonna shine the spotlight on an unsung
Speaker 3: Bengals hero, a guy that you might not even know
Speaker 3: his uniform number, but he's playing extremely well. This is
Speaker 3: the Bengals pep Rally Show. We're live at the on
Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati, talking Bengals football
Speaker 3: until six o'clock tonight. Sam Hubbard joins us from five
Speaker 3: to six here on ESPN fifteen thirty, Dan and Dave
Speaker 3: back on the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just
Speaker 3: Bear Chicken, live from the on the Rhine Eatery here
Speaker 3: in downtown Cincinnati. We're getting he set for the Bengals
Speaker 3: and Dolphins coming up one o'clock on Sunday in Miami.
Speaker 3: So over the past few weeks, it seems to me
Speaker 3: that every time the Bengals are in kickoff coverage and
Speaker 3: the other team's kick returner runs it back, Bengals make
Speaker 3: the tackle. I look down at my spotting chart as
Speaker 3: they call it, with the uniform numbers and the names,
Speaker 3: and I attribute the tackle to number forty three Joe
Speaker 3: Giles Harris. He's been making a bunch of tackles in
Speaker 3: special teams in recent weeks. So I looked it up
Speaker 3: on Pro Football Focused to find out where they have
Speaker 3: him graded among special teamers around the NFL. Would you
Speaker 3: believe number eleven the eleventh best overall special teams player
Speaker 3: in the NFL? I talked to Joe Giles Harris about
Speaker 3: that earlier this.
Speaker 10: Week, shout out you know, coach Daron, coach Ben, and
Speaker 10: you know the guys in the unit. You know, I'm
Speaker 10: just the guy who's been lucky enough to have a
Speaker 10: couple tackles these past few games. But it comes down
Speaker 10: to film study and just working hard. And you know,
Speaker 10: I think for a lot of guys, you know, early
Speaker 10: on you can kind of look at special teams as
Speaker 10: that I don't want to play special teams. I want
Speaker 10: to be a defensiveuy. I want to be offensive guy.
Speaker 10: But it's just as important. It's it's just as fun
Speaker 10: and you know, guy's carve out roles doing that. So
Speaker 10: for me, like I told you, just being consistent and
Speaker 10: doing what I have to do to stay in a
Speaker 10: building and you know, getting the opportunity to play there
Speaker 10: and it's been nothing but good to me and kind
Speaker 10: of opened my eyes.
Speaker 5: A little more special teams world.
Speaker 10: And I just thank my film setting things for being
Speaker 10: able to be in the right place at the right time.
Speaker 3: You gotta love a guy like Joe Giles Harris. If
Speaker 3: you look at the roster laugh, he's listed as somebody
Speaker 3: with two years of NFL experience. And this comes down
Speaker 3: to how the NFL counts accrude seasons. Right, He's in
Speaker 3: his seventh NFL year. He's basically put five years in
Speaker 3: on practice squads, grinding, trying to stay with a team,
Speaker 3: doing whatever it takes. Now, guys on the practice squad,
Speaker 3: it's a good living. You're making six figures. You know,
Speaker 3: there are a lot worse jobs out there, but you're
Speaker 3: a professional athlete. You want to get out there and play.
Speaker 3: Most of his time in the NFL has been on
Speaker 3: practice squads, but he's getting a chance to make a
Speaker 3: big contribution on special teams and he's coming through.
Speaker 5: He really is, it really is.
Speaker 4: And as a former player, I got nothing respect, nothing
Speaker 4: but respect for a guy like this, because you could
Speaker 4: have gone on to your as Paul Brown would say, Look,
Speaker 4: we're letting you go. You know, you almost made it.
Speaker 4: You're the last couple of three get people we were considering,
Speaker 4: but it just didn't card cut the mustard. So giving
Speaker 4: you a chance to go to your life's work, he
Speaker 4: tried to spend it. Possibly Jiles Harris is like, no,
Speaker 4: this is my life's work for right now until you know,
Speaker 4: maybe ten years down there, I'm gonna give this every
Speaker 4: chance I possibly can, every single season to be a
Speaker 4: contributor on the football team, and the quickest way to
Speaker 4: contribute his special teams and with the Bengals, he's fortunate
Speaker 4: enough to be hooked up with Darren Simmons, who understands
Speaker 4: Giles's mindset, makeup, love for the game of football and
Speaker 4: in general. Darren's like, I keep it simple. I mean especially,
Speaker 4: it's not rocket science. You know, we're not split in
Speaker 4: the atom here, guys. You know we're playing football. Run
Speaker 4: down the field as fast as you can. Take on
Speaker 4: an opponent, you know, separate, get off his block and
Speaker 4: tackle people. Be a good tackler, get guys on the ground.
Speaker 4: If you do that for Darren Simmons, you're gonna play
Speaker 4: special teams for him for a long time. And Joe
Speaker 4: Giles Harris is somebody that I think Darren Simmons has
Speaker 4: an immense amount of respect for.
Speaker 3: Joe Giles Harris is from the New York City area.
Speaker 3: He went to Duke, where he was the three time
Speaker 3: winner of the Vincent Ray Award, which goes to the
Speaker 3: best linebacker at Duke. It is obviously named for former
Speaker 3: Bengal Vinnie Ray. And it's been cool, cool for Joe
Speaker 3: Giles Harris to get to know Vinnie. Now, yeah, Vinnie's
Speaker 3: the team chaplain. Two guys from the New York City
Speaker 3: area that went to Duke and have wound up in Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 4: It's amazing how football can be the conduit to relationships
Speaker 4: that are lifelong. I mean, bonds that are made forever.
Speaker 4: And uh, I love the game of football for so
Speaker 4: many reasons. That's right there with every one of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I see how guys really feel
Speaker 4: about each other, how much they care about each other.
Speaker 5: Will do anything. And I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm not saying I'm not, but I guess
Speaker 4: I am. I'm going to compare it some to the military.
Speaker 5: You know. It's it's you're going for all for one
Speaker 5: common cause, all.
Speaker 4: That you do anything, anything for the good of the
Speaker 4: football team.
Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna take a time out. When we
Speaker 3: come back, we will talk about the wisdom of Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow playing in the final three games of the season.
Speaker 3: Now that the Bengals have officially been eliminated from playoff contention,
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Speaker 3: coming up in one hour and seven minutes will be
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. He'll be here from five
Speaker 3: to six. Last week, with a loss to Baltimore, Cincinnati
Speaker 3: was officially eliminated from playoff contention. So there are a
Speaker 3: lot of people out there, and I understand it. It's
Speaker 3: a fair argument that say you should shut down Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: don't run any risk in these final three games of
Speaker 3: him getting injured again. Well, Joe is going to play.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor said that at a news conference earlier this week,
Speaker 3: Joe is hell bent on playing. He didn't work as
Speaker 3: hard as he did to come back from that toe
Speaker 3: injury just to sit out for the final three games
Speaker 3: of the year. So again it's a fair debate, but
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is going to play. Let's hear from Joe
Speaker 3: on what he hopes to get out of these final
Speaker 3: three games of the year.
Speaker 7: Anytime you get the opportunity to shove up the pads
Speaker 7: and put the cleats on and go in the front
Speaker 7: of the world and prove your worth, prove all the
Speaker 7: hard work that you've put in, prove that you're improving.
Speaker 5: Week to week.
Speaker 7: That's what we're all trying to do. We're trying to
Speaker 7: get better and better ourselves, and we have three.
Speaker 11: Opportunities to do that.
Speaker 7: You know, when I wanted to come back, obviously you
Speaker 7: want to make the playoffs and you want to make
Speaker 7: a run and all of that, but that was kind
Speaker 7: of tertiary in my mind. I just wanted to get
Speaker 7: back out there and play and put on a show
Speaker 7: and try to play well and.
Speaker 3: Produce tertiary excellent word excellent. Joe Burrow good vocabula. He
Speaker 3: busted out the thesaurus while he was rehabbing his toe injury.
Speaker 3: You know, as long as the doctors say that the
Speaker 3: toe has completely healed, that he is in no risk
Speaker 3: of further damage to that. Now that he's come back
Speaker 3: and he's got this specially designed shoe, yeah, I defer
Speaker 3: to him. Let him play. If you know it's important
Speaker 3: to him to play, let him play.
Speaker 4: Totally. One agree. Joe Burrow is a football player. Joel
Speaker 4: Burrow loves to play football. Joe Burrow loves to throw
Speaker 4: the football. Joe Burrow loves his teammates. Joe Burrow loves
Speaker 4: his coaches. Joe Burrow loves Cincinnati. Joe Burrow wants to
Speaker 4: be part of it. He wants to be.
Speaker 5: Part of the whole, the whole deal.
Speaker 4: You have a guy like that that wants to play,
Speaker 4: and as talented as he is, he let him play,
Speaker 4: and if another injury happens, God forbid, knock on wood.
Speaker 4: You never, you never, you never take anything for granted
Speaker 4: in that regard. But I mean, that's that's football, that's
Speaker 4: a byproduct of football. Unfortunately, I think he's gonna play
Speaker 4: really well. I think He's gonna put up significant numbers,
Speaker 4: and you know, he loves the challenge. He loves to
Speaker 4: be tested. He wants to show what he can do
Speaker 4: against the best that there is in the world, and
Speaker 4: that's the National Football League.
Speaker 3: I just hurt my knuckles pounding on that wooden chair,
Speaker 3: so I I think I might have broken something. I
Speaker 3: agree with you. I think Joe Burrow is gonna play
Speaker 3: great this week. I mean, when he has a subpar game,
Speaker 3: and he called last week's game maybe the worst of
Speaker 3: his career. I'm not sure that I necessarily agree with that,
Speaker 3: but when he has a subpar game, he typically comes
Speaker 3: back and lights up the next opponent. And while I
Speaker 3: do think the Dolphins have an above average defense, I
Speaker 3: would expect Joe to play great, not good great on Sunday.
Speaker 5: Totally agree. You know.
Speaker 4: I think I think he'll probably have, you know, one
Speaker 4: of those games where it's like when people are driving
Speaker 4: home after the football game, it'll be like, can you
Speaker 4: believe that throw that Joe Burrow made, you know, at
Speaker 4: the end of the third quarter to Jamar Chase, I.
Speaker 5: Can't believe that.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you throw that ball one hundred times
Speaker 4: one time, it may it may be like that, and
Speaker 4: that's what happened, and he's capable of those kinds of things.
Speaker 5: He's he's a special talent, very unique.
Speaker 3: This week's opponent is the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins were
Speaker 3: on a roll. They had a four game winning streak
Speaker 3: prior to losing on Monday Night to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: They didn't play particularly well in that game, and as
Speaker 3: a result, they have benched their quarterback. He makes fifty
Speaker 3: three million dollars a year two a Tongo vy loa.
Speaker 3: He has been sent to the bench. Rookie quinn ew Ers,
Speaker 3: the former Ohio State Buckeye, at least briefly at the
Speaker 3: start of his college career, went on to have great
Speaker 3: success with the Texas Longhorns. He will make his first
Speaker 3: NFL start on Sunday against Cincinnati. We'll talk about that
Speaker 3: and much more where the Dolphins are concerned with the
Speaker 3: guy who covers the team for ESPN when we come back.
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Speaker 3: Dan Howden Dave Lapham with you this afternoon live from
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Speaker 3: food hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut.
Speaker 3: We're here until six o'clock tonight. Sam Hubbard joins us
Speaker 3: from five to six as we get you ready for
Speaker 3: the Bengals and Dolphins coming up on Sunday at one
Speaker 3: o'clock in the afternoon. The Dolphins come into the game
Speaker 3: with six wins, coming off a loss to the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Steelers on Monday night in Pittsburgh, and it is time
Speaker 3: for our no the faux segment where we get the
Speaker 3: inside scoop on the opponent. And here to fill us
Speaker 3: in on the Miami Dolphins is Marcel Luis Jacques, who
Speaker 3: covers the team for ESPN. Marcel, we appreciate you joining
Speaker 3: us on the show today. I thought you did an
Speaker 3: awesome job on Sports Center talking about to a tongueo
Speaker 3: by Loa who has gone to the bench this week
Speaker 3: for the Dolphins. Let's start with That's there the sense
Speaker 3: that this might be coming or was it kind of
Speaker 3: a shock or after Monday's lost to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 12: I think it should be a shock or I guess
Speaker 12: let's put it this way. It wasn't surprising, but there's
Speaker 12: always a little bit of shock value when you are
Speaker 12: benching your starting quarterback, Like that's that's the natural reaction.
Speaker 12: But I think the playoffs were no longer in the picture.
Speaker 12: I mean even the trap talking in the in the
Speaker 12: tunnels over there after the game, like okay, so we're
Speaker 12: gonna see Queenewers now right, Like it makes the most sense.
Speaker 12: Don't see what you got with the rookie. There's no
Speaker 12: material left to play for. I mentioned it a couple
Speaker 12: of times in my writing, and you know, a couple
Speaker 12: of videos after the game as well, So like it
Speaker 12: wasn't a surprise per se, but it's still it's a
Speaker 12: little like a whoa anytime you see a two hundred
Speaker 12: and twelve point one million dollar quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's crazy, that's incredible. Oh boy, I wish
Speaker 4: those numbers were being paid out in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 5: Man. So let's talk about Quinn.
Speaker 4: You are the guy who is going to be quarterbacking
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins when they come to Cincinnati to play
Speaker 4: the Bengals. What what can you tell us about him?
Speaker 4: What makes him chick? What are his strengths?
Speaker 12: So Quinn is very I don't want to say nonchalant
Speaker 12: because that almost sounds like derogatory, but like this guy
Speaker 12: who's not going to get too high and not going
Speaker 12: to get too very even keeled demeanor, confident, hard worker. Teammates,
Speaker 12: they say he's a playmaker at practice, he's a baller
Speaker 12: at practice. He's missing off the linebackers, making players, running
Speaker 12: the scout team. I don't know that. I don't think
Speaker 12: it's reasonable to say he's about to take the field
Speaker 12: and the deafinis, you know, Roberty on their hands, like,
Speaker 12: I don't know if he's going to come out here
Speaker 12: in the even Joe Burrow like, I think they're just
Speaker 12: looking for something to build on as they move forward
Speaker 12: into a potentially tumultuous offseason. Like is there is there
Speaker 12: a guy you can usually tell? Is this a guy
Speaker 12: who's got a future in the league or did Does
Speaker 12: he look like a seventh round dart room?
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 12: Wins losses immateial at this point. I think they're just
Speaker 12: looking for the possibility of something being there.
Speaker 3: Marcel Louis Jacques covers the Dolphins for ESPN. I imagine
Speaker 3: one thing that Quinn Ewers will spend a lot of
Speaker 3: his day doing on Sunday is handing the ball off,
Speaker 3: because that's the strength of the Dolphins offense. Devon a
Speaker 3: Chan is excellent. He's already rushed for more than a
Speaker 3: thousand yards this year. The Dolphins recently had a four
Speaker 3: game winning streak where they ran for one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty plus in every game, and the Bengals are last
Speaker 3: in the NFL at stopping the run? Is that the
Speaker 3: key Sunday? How well that Miami running attack firs against Cincinnati?
Speaker 12: Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, especially after a kount of a disappointing
Speaker 12: output against Pittsburgh. But the one thing that I don't
Speaker 12: know if fantasy players everybody's still in, I don't know
Speaker 12: that they're going to love hearing this. But if you
Speaker 12: look at it not only just logically, but with what
Speaker 12: they're also doing at the quarterback position and like going
Speaker 12: to the young guys, and it's just kind of using
Speaker 12: the next three games as a developmental period. I wouldn't
Speaker 12: be surprised to see more of a split between Hn
Speaker 12: and Jalen Wright, who had you know, one hundred and
Speaker 12: ten yards on twenty four carriers a couple of weeks
Speaker 12: ago when Hn was hurt. So I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 12: to see a mix of Jalen Wright, a mix in
Speaker 12: of Olie Gordon as well. But yeah, I don't I
Speaker 12: don't think it would be super responsible of Mike and
Speaker 12: of Frank Smith to send Twin out there and telling
Speaker 12: him right, throw the ball forty five times right now.
Speaker 12: I think they just want to see him navigate the offense.
Speaker 12: Of course, they're going to put him in a couple
Speaker 12: of situations where it's one of those let's see how
Speaker 12: to kive Reox, But I don't think the game plan
Speaker 12: is going to necessarily revolve around when you weres in.
Speaker 12: Frank Smith said, when's grasp of this offensive playbook is
Speaker 12: advance for his his experience in league. It's so advanced
Speaker 12: that they don't really plan on changing much about their
Speaker 12: offensive book.
Speaker 4: And every team that doesn't make the playoffs is disappointed
Speaker 4: that they season didn't go as planned, and you know,
Speaker 4: the fan base starts to get a little restless and
Speaker 4: they start calling for the head coach's head. How vulnerable
Speaker 4: is Mike McDaniel. Do you think he's on the chopping block?
Speaker 12: I do not know, And I'd be kind of willing
Speaker 12: to put my state, my name on it here. Yeah,
Speaker 12: it's a gut feeling at this point, but like if
Speaker 12: the wins really mattered for his job security right now,
Speaker 12: Quinn yours is not the best chance to win. And
Speaker 12: I know he's been saying that. He said that publicly
Speaker 12: a few times. Like that, I think is what you
Speaker 12: have to say, because it doesn't sound good when you
Speaker 12: gotta have pissed off fan base and you're over here saying, yeah,
Speaker 12: we're going to just see what the young guys got
Speaker 12: the rest of the season. We're gonna punt, especially to
Speaker 12: an ownership that still wants the CEL tickets for the
Speaker 12: next couple of weeks. That's not fun to hear. But
Speaker 12: in this is one of those scenarios where it's like
Speaker 12: watch what I what I do and what I say,
Speaker 12: and if it was really about winning games, Jack Wilson
Speaker 12: is probably the quarterback if you're insistent on benching tour.
Speaker 12: So I think this is a move that you make
Speaker 12: when you are pretty sure you are still going to
Speaker 12: have your job, or if you've gotten an out right
Speaker 12: assurance that you are going to keep your job for.
Speaker 5: The next season.
Speaker 12: But I don't think that I don't think that Mike
Speaker 12: is in danger as at this point. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 12: something dramatic can happen, something drastic could happen over the
Speaker 12: next couple months or so. But when the ball rolls
Speaker 12: out in September twenty twenty six, I expect McDaniels the sideline.
Speaker 3: It's a really good point. We're visiting with Marcel Louis Jacques,
Speaker 3: who covers the Dolphins for ESPN. A couple more questions.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about the defense for the season.
Speaker 3: Miami is smack dab in the middle of the NFL
Speaker 3: and points, but it's been good better over the last
Speaker 3: five games. Are giving up sixteen a game over the
Speaker 3: last five. They shut down Buffalo in one of those games.
Speaker 3: What are the strengths of the Dolphins defense.
Speaker 12: I think this secondary, which ironically you entered the season
Speaker 12: as a question mark. I think it's solidified into a
Speaker 12: pretty good, pretty good unit. Obviously Minker is not going
Speaker 12: to play, so that's going to take a hit there.
Speaker 12: But Dante Trader, fifth Brown rookie out of Maryland, it's
Speaker 12: a guy that they're excited about, so he's going to
Speaker 12: get some more run there on Sunday. Russell Douglas is
Speaker 12: playing at a high level. Jack Jones is playing at
Speaker 12: a high level. I think that that is something that
Speaker 12: I'm sure it surprises a lot of Dolphins stands, and
Speaker 12: it surprised the media to the level they're playing. I
Speaker 12: considered where they were in June July. But the heart
Speaker 12: of this defense is in the sly back record, Tyrol
Speaker 12: Dobson and then of course Jordan Brooks, who leaves the
Speaker 12: NFL and tackles. Brooks has been there most consistent player
Speaker 12: on either side of the ball. Offseason. It does not
Speaker 12: have an off game, rarely makes a mistake. He to
Speaker 12: him get hit with tawn and penalty at the end
Speaker 12: of or towards the end of the Steelers game, that's
Speaker 12: not super indicative of his character. That was kind of
Speaker 12: a surprise to see. But this is a this is
Speaker 12: a guy who I would expect, I'd expect an extension
Speaker 12: done for him this offseason. But he's really the heart
Speaker 12: and soul of that defense.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you about the Dolphins offense the same
Speaker 4: way then, Marcel. It's like, Okay, what do they do
Speaker 4: best offensively? Where's where's their offensive strength? Who's playing at
Speaker 4: a high level? For offensive coordinator Frank Smith right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Will We talked about it before, right Devon h Han
Speaker 12: is really the team MVP on offense because without him,
Speaker 12: I mean I know the game the one game that
Speaker 12: we did see without him with when Jayden Wright went on,
Speaker 12: but that was against a New York Jets defense that
Speaker 12: quick before it left its house in the morning, So
Speaker 12: I would take that one with the great and assault.
Speaker 12: But he is he is crucial in the run game, obviously,
Speaker 12: but also in the passing game. Miami. You know, considering
Speaker 12: what Miami is and where this team was a couple
Speaker 12: of years ago, flying up and down the field leading
Speaker 12: the league in points and offense, you don't have a
Speaker 12: whole lot of playmakers and like in terms of pass
Speaker 12: catchers right now, not people who are really going to
Speaker 12: scare an opposing defense. So Hn, he's found, he's found
Speaker 12: a living stretching defense, is stressing defenses out coming out
Speaker 12: of the backfield. Absolutely, it's got to be devout.
Speaker 5: Hn.
Speaker 12: And then and that you know he maybe wouldn't expect
Speaker 12: is Aaron Brewer the center. I think he's been the
Speaker 12: best center in the NFL. Although that is a metric
Speaker 12: that I'm not willing to argue with anybody, So let's
Speaker 12: just take that real quick. It is. I don't watch
Speaker 12: a whole lot of center play, but I know that
Speaker 12: a lot of centers don't look like that. The way
Speaker 12: they use him as a blocker, as a lead blocker,
Speaker 12: as a puller, it's special. It's something to keep an
Speaker 12: eye on if you're if you're looking for teams to
Speaker 12: watch within Sunday's game.
Speaker 3: Well, Dave Lapham is a former offense watching and so
Speaker 3: he'll be watching it. He sounds kind of Jason Kelsey
Speaker 3: like based on that description.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's similar to that. Yeah, yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 12: I think if he doesn't make the Pro Bowl, it's
Speaker 12: kind of a it's a disgrace. I think he has
Speaker 12: been phenomenal this season. Wow, especially, you know, considering when
Speaker 12: he got here he was labeling injury prone, undersized, underwhelming,
Speaker 12: and what he's done under mc McDaniel has really been
Speaker 12: special for the past couple of years.
Speaker 3: Marcel, we know Fridays are busy in your world. We
Speaker 3: really appreciate you covering out some time for us today.
Speaker 12: Thank you, of course, thanks for having me.
Speaker 5: Thanks very much.
Speaker 3: All right, that is Marcel Luis Jah who covers the
Speaker 3: Dolphins for ESPN. We'll take a time out when we
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Speaker 3: facts with running back Taje Brooks from Manor, Texas, not
Speaker 3: far from the capital city of Austin. Describe growing up
Speaker 3: in Manor and some of the things you enjoyed doing
Speaker 3: when you were young.
Speaker 14: Oh, man, the thing I did the most was just
Speaker 14: play football, went to school, and then you don't hung
Speaker 14: out with friends. That was really just the most part.
Speaker 14: And you know, I was kind of kind of a
Speaker 14: country boy at That's home too, you know, it's Mayner.
Speaker 14: Back back in high school, it was a it was
Speaker 14: a kind of a little suburb. Now it's a lot
Speaker 14: of play, a lot of things growing out there, so
Speaker 14: but it was more country when I was out there,
Speaker 14: when I was, uh growing up and stuff. So it
Speaker 14: was fun.
Speaker 3: I read somewhere that you rode horses growing up?
Speaker 5: Was that the case?
Speaker 3: And it's it's still the case.
Speaker 14: It's it's a little bit kind of the case now,
Speaker 14: but uh I try to get uh not too much,
Speaker 14: but uh, yeah, I grew up. I rode a little
Speaker 14: bit of horses. Uh it was just when I was little.
Speaker 14: My aunt, uh shout out to her. She kind of,
Speaker 14: you know, just instilled in me just uh just to
Speaker 14: do it for fun. And it's been it's been great
Speaker 14: ever since. But uh it's crazy. It's just uh, I
Speaker 14: kind of had like a little reaction to like one
Speaker 14: of like the horse little blanket sheets.
Speaker 1: And you know, I always I loved animals.
Speaker 14: I uh, when I was little, I wanted to be
Speaker 14: like a vi visit, I guess a vegetarian, not a vegetarian,
Speaker 14: uh veninarian, excuse me. And it was just, uh, I
Speaker 14: love watching like the incredible Doctor Poe shows and things
Speaker 14: like that, so I just won't see like just the
Speaker 14: way of living over horse and things like that.
Speaker 1: But nah, it was That's just something uh that I
Speaker 1: cherished the most when I was growing.
Speaker 3: Up, tysh you had an exceptional high school football career,
Speaker 3: running for more than four thousand yards. Way did it
Speaker 3: start to become clear that the other kids either couldn't
Speaker 3: catch you or tackle.
Speaker 1: You really, I want to say a little league.
Speaker 14: And then going into my ninth grade year, that was
Speaker 14: my first year I was a freshman on varsity ninth
Speaker 14: grade and you really don't see that happening in a
Speaker 14: lot of places, and that kind of just changed my
Speaker 14: trajectory of football. And I'm very thanking for the coach
Speaker 14: that gave me the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Mainneris and far from the University of Texas. I've read
Speaker 3: that the Longhorns did not recruit you. Was that the case,
Speaker 3: and if so, was it disappointing.
Speaker 14: It wasn't disappointing, But they recruited me a little bit.
Speaker 14: They kind of wanted me. It was back in twenty Yeah,
Speaker 14: back in twenty twenty when it's kind of that covid
Speaker 14: era and they had a guy, which is he's in
Speaker 14: the league actually right now, so kudos and him.
Speaker 1: And things like that.
Speaker 14: But they had a guy, and I feel like text
Speaker 14: Tech was the best for me. Coach Matt Wells. I
Speaker 14: got recruited by him and and he changed my life forever.
Speaker 14: And then just the inductive of just Joey MacGuire, just
Speaker 14: the things that he built there.
Speaker 1: It has been great. So uh, I'm glad. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a stake Raider.
Speaker 3: You initially committed to Tulsa largely because of an assistant
Speaker 3: coach named Justin Hill, who is your running backs coach
Speaker 3: now with the Cincinnati Bengals. Described that relationship going back
Speaker 3: to the tenth grade.
Speaker 1: It was a it was a great relationship. It's still
Speaker 1: great to this day.
Speaker 14: You know, the Jay Hill, he does a great job
Speaker 14: with just the cult of aspect and then just uh,
Speaker 14: just being a teacher, a great guy you can learn from.
Speaker 14: And then just off the field a great a great
Speaker 14: family man, a great uh somebody you want to be
Speaker 14: like when you want to grow up and things like that.
Speaker 14: But the relationship is has been there. I want to
Speaker 14: say my freshman year I committed to him and in
Speaker 14: that program and it was great. And then he got
Speaker 14: the job here, and I knew, I knew I was
Speaker 14: kind of gonna be back, not as a Cincinnati ban
Speaker 14: I thought I know I was gonna be back in
Speaker 14: the ropes because I texted him one year I guess,
Speaker 14: I guess, congrats, I'm going to the super Bowl and
Speaker 14: he takes me back. He's like, thank you, man. So
Speaker 14: it was just a good good seeing out of eye.
Speaker 14: And then shoot, I got blessed and I got jobbted here.
Speaker 14: So it all came for full a full circle.
Speaker 1: So it's cool for.
Speaker 3: Visiting with TODJ. Brooks. You ultimately chose to play at
Speaker 3: Texas Tech. As you mentioned, you're gonna be in their
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame someday you're their all time leading rusher.
Speaker 3: What did you enjoy most about your five years there.
Speaker 1: Man, It wasn't breaking the records or anything.
Speaker 14: It was just I want to say, my teammates, the
Speaker 14: guys that I met there, the guys that I came
Speaker 14: in with, we built those are my brothers for life.
Speaker 14: And that was probably like one of the biggest things
Speaker 14: that I missed about college and things like that. But
Speaker 14: besides the accolades that I broken things, but that's probably
Speaker 14: the most important ones.
Speaker 3: In addition to your on the field success, you excelled
Speaker 3: in the classroom. You were nominated for the Campbell Award
Speaker 3: last year, which is known as the Academic Heisband Trophy.
Speaker 3: Did your folks put a big emphasis on the classroom?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 14: My mom and my dad, they pushed me academically as
Speaker 14: well as on the field. You want to be the
Speaker 14: best person in the brain before you get outside and
Speaker 14: get on the field, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's just it's been instilled me at a young age.
Speaker 14: My Grandma's also instilled in me just you gotta you
Speaker 14: gotta be a student before you be an athlete. So
Speaker 14: just learning different ways just to get better with your brain.
Speaker 14: That's just something I always honored as and you know,
Speaker 14: just want to just expand my knowledge more.
Speaker 3: The Bengals selected you in the sixth round of this
Speaker 3: year's draft. Describe that day leading up to getting the
Speaker 3: phone call from Zach Taylor.
Speaker 14: First and foremost, it was just it was a blessing.
Speaker 14: I can't think enough to the man above. The Bengels
Speaker 14: got a great guy, a great a great person that's
Speaker 14: gonna come in and impact the way that he can
Speaker 14: if any opportunity that he gets.
Speaker 1: But nah, that that day was amazing.
Speaker 14: I talked to Zach, I talked to Jay Hill, and
Speaker 14: then shoot, after that, it was it was ready to work.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 14: They Nothing wasn't handed, nothing wasn't given. It was just
Speaker 14: come in, learn and just be uh. Whenever opportunity for
Speaker 14: this herself, be ready for that opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait.
Speaker 3: This was a crazy deep draft for running backs. I'm
Speaker 3: thinking in a normal year you would have gone several
Speaker 3: rounds earlier. How did that affect you?
Speaker 1: I really didn't. Uh, it really didn't affect me. I
Speaker 1: have I have a great team, great agent within that
Speaker 1: well and things like that. So they kept me. Uh,
Speaker 1: he kept me, truly honest.
Speaker 14: He's like, man, I feel like you're one of the
Speaker 14: top backs in this class and you know, your film
Speaker 14: proves it. You can pass, take and catch the ball
Speaker 14: great out the backfield and you know, run the ball.
Speaker 14: That's nothing. But I don't know why he can't question
Speaker 14: question you about that. So man, that's just uh, it
Speaker 14: was deep.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I separated myself just off pass
Speaker 1: protection and then catching.
Speaker 3: The ball where we at the backfield were the guys
Speaker 3: draft before you, where you said yourself, Man, that guy
Speaker 3: is good, but I know I'm better than he.
Speaker 14: Is for sure, you know, just the competitor in me
Speaker 14: just saying that. And then just you know, on draft
Speaker 14: day I kind of wrote and thought about every guy
Speaker 14: that went before me, so uh, not saying when we
Speaker 14: played him, I I just wanna, you know, be the
Speaker 14: whenever I get my opportunity to be the best back
Speaker 14: on the field and things like that.
Speaker 1: So I just can't wait for that to happen.
Speaker 3: All right. Some wild card topics now for Bengals running
Speaker 3: back Taj Brooks. Who is your all time favorite athlete
Speaker 3: in any sport?
Speaker 1: And why I gotta be one or just one?
Speaker 3: You can pick several if you'd like.
Speaker 1: All Right, man, it's tough. I'm gonna go Kobe just
Speaker 1: because the Mama mentality.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna go Ray Lewis, just because a guy that's
Speaker 14: gonna come to work each and every day and giving
Speaker 14: his all and someone that's that's gonna embrace you and
Speaker 14: you know, makes you want to do things that you
Speaker 14: wanna that you don't want to do, but you're doing.
Speaker 14: And then my last one is probably Barry Sanders, just
Speaker 14: a guy that's just very consistent as being playing a
Speaker 14: running back, being at the plane at the highest.
Speaker 1: Level and doing the great things that he did in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 14: Man, it's just you always want to put yourself in
Speaker 14: that role and just want to see yourself doing those
Speaker 14: great things that he did.
Speaker 3: So Barry Sanders was before your time. Have you watched
Speaker 3: a lot of the clips on YouTube?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 16: For sure?
Speaker 1: I watch him.
Speaker 14: Then you know the Madden you know, I play Madden
Speaker 14: a lot, so I'm always using him, Watter Payton, you know,
Speaker 14: just Marshall falk Man.
Speaker 1: You can go a list goes down, man.
Speaker 14: But I kind of watch those guys on YouTube and
Speaker 14: just you know, going what they did in the NFL
Speaker 14: and just try to see how my game can imprint
Speaker 14: and how I can take things from their game.
Speaker 3: So we're visiting the t Brooks For the last three years,
Speaker 3: you put on a free football clinic back home for kids.
Speaker 3: More than three hundred attended this past year.
Speaker 5: Why do you do that?
Speaker 14: I do it just it's a blessing first and foremost
Speaker 14: for the kids, and you know, just so it's been free.
Speaker 14: It's something that I love, you know, giving back to
Speaker 14: my community, giving back to where I came from. And
Speaker 14: you know, you always want to get back to your
Speaker 14: hometown because they're going to support you no matter what,
Speaker 14: no matter if you're an NFL, no matter if you're
Speaker 14: you know, a college coach to day, no matter whatever
Speaker 14: you're doing, they're going to always support you. And I
Speaker 14: always want to give my support back to to my
Speaker 14: high schools and things like that.
Speaker 3: We know you're a good running back, we know you're
Speaker 3: a good student. You rode horses as a kid. But
Speaker 3: where do you allow to at?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm not a good singer. I will
Speaker 1: not I sing.
Speaker 14: I sing to myself sometimes, but it's just myself and
Speaker 14: probably my girlfriend. But besides that, I'm not a.
Speaker 1: Great singer at all. That's probably the one.
Speaker 5: What do you like to splur?
Speaker 1: John Man?
Speaker 14: I don't know because I haven't. Man, I'm not I'm
Speaker 14: a big I'm not a big spender. It's just it
Speaker 14: depends like I kind of left my big spending probably
Speaker 14: in my college days. But now it's just more of
Speaker 14: just I don't know, man's I don't really splurs a lot.
Speaker 14: Second contract, probably buy a home back home, you know,
Speaker 14: by a home, get something set up off of the
Speaker 14: off season, and you know, get something going with the
Speaker 14: off season, things like that.
Speaker 1: So just buy a home and things like that.
Speaker 3: All right, Final fun fact for Taj Brooks. This one's
Speaker 3: a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history,
Speaker 3: living or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 1: I want to say one is Nipsey Hustle.
Speaker 14: Nipsey Hustle, excuse me, just the way how powerful he
Speaker 14: is with his voice and the way he carried on
Speaker 14: his life and his legacy. And then two, probably my
Speaker 14: brother trolley Man, just to talk to him, see how
Speaker 14: he's doing up there. He passed away in twenty nineteen
Speaker 14: during a gun violence accident, So just meet him and
Speaker 14: just chop it up with him.
Speaker 1: That would probably be my two. Like most coming back
Speaker 1: and just chopping it up, So that probably be my
Speaker 1: things right there.
Speaker 3: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 5: Best of let the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, thank you TOAs Brooks.
Speaker 3: Easy guy to root for. A six round draft pick
Speaker 3: this year out of Texas Tech. Haven't seen much of
Speaker 3: him during the regular season. He's only got nine carries
Speaker 3: this year, but that's a good news in a sense
Speaker 3: because it means Chase Brown has stayed healthy. And one
Speaker 3: thing I would like to see before the end of
Speaker 3: this year is for Chase Brown to average seventy three
Speaker 3: yards in the final three games of the year and
Speaker 3: get to one thousand.
Speaker 4: Love to see Chase Brown get a thousand yards as well.
Speaker 4: I think he's one of the hardest working players on
Speaker 4: the football team. I mean he is dedicated to his craft,
Speaker 4: to his profession, and they have a great room in
Speaker 4: that running back room.
Speaker 5: TODJ.
Speaker 4: Brooks another you know, phenomenal kid as well as football player,
Speaker 4: and Chase Brown, he just he might be as well
Speaker 4: liked as anybody on the football team. I mean that
Speaker 4: all he does is come to work every day, keep
Speaker 4: his nose clean, you know, put it to the grindstone.
Speaker 4: He is a grinder in every sense of the word.
Speaker 4: And the kid is a talented best I mean he's
Speaker 4: got a low center gravity dan. He runs with a
Speaker 4: good body, lean, puts the football away, doesn't put it
Speaker 4: on the ground. He secures the pig. He hits the
Speaker 4: weight room hard. I mean his squads are phenomenally strong, hamstrings, calves.
Speaker 4: He's the real deal. He's a great football player. I'd
Speaker 4: love to see him get rewarded with a thousand yard season.
Speaker 3: And again he needs to average seventy three a game
Speaker 3: over the final three to reach one thousand yards this year.
Speaker 3: We'll take a time out. When we come back, we
Speaker 3: will talk about the biggest challenge the Bengals defense will face.
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Speaker 3: from five to six. The Bengals are heading to Miami
Speaker 3: to face the Dolphins this week. Miami in recent years
Speaker 3: has been one of the better offensive teams in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and even though they have benched to a Tongo vy
Speaker 3: loa going into the game this week, the key for
Speaker 3: Miami is the running game. That's what they do best.
Speaker 3: In recent weeks, they had a stretch of four straight
Speaker 3: games of one hundred and fifty plus on the ground,
Speaker 3: including a game against the Jets where they ran for
Speaker 3: more than two twenty and one thing you're going to
Speaker 3: notice when Miami has the ball is that before virtually
Speaker 3: every play, somebody's going to be going in motion, often
Speaker 3: sprinting in motion. Then they'll stop go back in the
Speaker 3: original direction. They use motion as much as any team
Speaker 3: in the NFL, And here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor
Speaker 3: talking about why that presents problems for the Bengals this week.
Speaker 6: If it creates any hesitation from you on the second level,
Speaker 6: then that's the increase they need with the speed to
Speaker 6: have a running back to get explosives. And so it's
Speaker 6: all a lot of it's I can do window dressing,
Speaker 6: creating leverage. They'll come back to it over and over again.
Speaker 6: They'll have the compliments that you now start to overplay it,
Speaker 6: and they'll come back and hit you with something different.
Speaker 6: They was on the same frame. Miami. They do a
Speaker 6: really good job with the really creative scheme of the
Speaker 6: run game, and they've always had really explosive running backs
Speaker 6: that can really hit it at that moment when you've
Speaker 6: gone an extra step too far, and now they got
Speaker 6: a chance for an explosive play.
Speaker 3: Pretty good description of what Miami's looking for this week.
Speaker 3: Number one running back de von A Chan ran a
Speaker 3: four three two forty at the combine. He was the
Speaker 3: fastest running back in his class, and that class included
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, who ran a four to three six. So
Speaker 3: a chen can fly. He was an All American in
Speaker 3: track and it is being a great football player. At
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. Their number two running back Jalen
Speaker 3: Wright out of Tennessee, ran a four to three eight.
Speaker 3: So you've got two running backs that run four three forties.
Speaker 3: And again, well all that motion and movement, if you
Speaker 3: take a step, a half step in the wrong direction
Speaker 3: or hesitate just enough, he's off to the races right on.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it's all. It's all built on
Speaker 4: false steps. You know, if you if you do, if
Speaker 4: you overstep by one step, you're out of position because
Speaker 4: they they've put their foot in the ground and they
Speaker 4: cut and they because of the sub four to four speed,
Speaker 4: low four threes, they're gonna make you pay. So it
Speaker 4: is it's a very very difficult offense to uh to stop,
Speaker 4: not because it's overly sophisticated. They do a ton of things.
Speaker 4: It's pretty simple they do. They try to out leverage you.
Speaker 4: They try to get you to overrun by a step
Speaker 4: and take advantage of those kind of mistakes. And when
Speaker 4: you do, that's when they gash you. That's when they
Speaker 4: hit the big play. It's it's a very creative. Mike
Speaker 4: McDaniel deserves a typic of the cap that that running
Speaker 4: game is pretty much unlike any other in the National
Speaker 4: Football League. The Bengals haven't faced anything like it yet
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 3: As for the passing game, they will not have Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: We know how great he is. He was lost in
Speaker 3: Week four with a pretty gruesome looking knee injury, so
Speaker 3: he's not going to be back this year. They still
Speaker 3: have Jalen Waddle, former high first round draft pick and
Speaker 3: an excellent player. He's got eight hundred and thirty eight
Speaker 3: receiving yards this year. Da Darren Waller came out of
Speaker 3: retirement to play tight and he had two touchdown catches
Speaker 3: on against Pittsburgh, so it looks like there's still something
Speaker 3: in the tank for Darren Waller. The big question mark,
Speaker 3: of course, is going to be the play of their
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, Quinn Ewers. He appeared in one game earlier
Speaker 3: this year, a blowout loss to the Cleveland Browns. His
Speaker 3: first pass in the NFL should have been a pick six,
Speaker 3: it was dropped by Cleveland. He threw eight passes in
Speaker 3: the game, went five for eight. He's never started a
Speaker 3: game in the NFL, started the last three years at Texas,
Speaker 3: played well for the Longhorns, got them to the College
Speaker 3: Football Playoff a couple of times. But now a particularly
Speaker 3: big guy. He's six to two hundred and nine pounds.
Speaker 3: He was the fourteenth and final quarterback taken in this
Speaker 3: year's draft, So even though he was a ballly hooed recruit,
Speaker 3: the number one quarterback recruit in his class when he
Speaker 3: originally went to Ohio State, by the end of his
Speaker 3: college career, even with his success at Texas, he was
Speaker 3: selected in the seventh round of the draft, number two
Speaker 3: thirty one overall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last round, last round of the draft. Now, and
Speaker 4: you know, let's face it, you're talking Quinn Ewers for
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Banks. Come
Speaker 4: of advantage Cincinnati. Yeah, most definitely advantage Cincinnati, and they
Speaker 4: just have to make sure that they take care of
Speaker 4: business that way. You know, don't try to do too much.
Speaker 4: Just let the game come to you. If you're Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, put the pressure on Quinn yours.
Speaker 4: See if you can see him, make him make some
Speaker 4: poor decisions and put the ball where he's gonna regret
Speaker 4: putting the football. Make him make some mistakes and stop
Speaker 4: the run. Stuff the run exactly.
Speaker 5: Do that.
Speaker 4: That's first and foremost, because that's what the Miami that's
Speaker 4: the DNA of the Miami Dolphins offense.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a time out. It's been a tough
Speaker 3: year for the Bengals, the record four and ten with
Speaker 3: three games to go, but there has been at least
Speaker 3: one very big positive and we'll talk about that next.
Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rawley Show presented by Just
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Speaker 3: food hall above the Downtown Kruger here in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: It is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just
Speaker 3: Beared Chicken. As we said before the commercial break, nobody
Speaker 3: would suggest this has been a successful year for Cincinnati
Speaker 3: at four and ten with three games to go, but
Speaker 3: there has been a positive. One area of the team
Speaker 3: that's been a concern throughout the Joe Burrow era has
Speaker 3: performed much better this year, particularly over the last six
Speaker 3: or seven weeks. And I'm talking about the offensive line. Yep,
Speaker 3: the Bengals built an offensive line that they can finally
Speaker 3: feel good about going into next year to protect Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Earlier this week, I spoke to Robert Wintraup. He covers
Speaker 3: the Bengals for Cincinnati Magazine. He's got an analytical background.
Speaker 3: He also covers the NFL for the FTN Football Almanac.
Speaker 3: Was kind of a numbers crunchers a website in any case,
Speaker 3: I asked Robert, if we should feel good about the
Speaker 3: play of the offensive line.
Speaker 17: Sure, I mean, why not in the season where a
Speaker 17: lot of things have gone wrong. That's one that whereas
Speaker 17: in past seasons it's gone very wrong. This year, he
Speaker 17: can't really point to it as being a detriment. Maybe
Speaker 17: not a top five unit in the league by any stretch,
Speaker 17: but they've played well. Anytime you start a rookie at
Speaker 17: one of the five positions and he not only you know,
Speaker 17: keeps his head above water, but actually plays well in
Speaker 17: Dylan fairschild at left guard, that's a success story. Marius
Speaker 17: Mims taking the next step forward playing well and not
Speaker 17: being injured and actually playing for the most part of
Speaker 17: full season was a huge success story in his development.
Speaker 17: You know, and importantly, obviously they're going to have to
Speaker 17: devote a lot of resources again to the defensive side
Speaker 17: of the ball in the off season. That would look
Speaker 17: different if you were having, like going into this year,
Speaker 17: having to also devote resources to try and to fix
Speaker 17: several positions on the offensive line. I think they've stabilized
Speaker 17: that unit at least for the time being. They certainly
Speaker 17: looked to maybe making changes going down the line with
Speaker 17: some of the veterans, maybe at center and at left tackle,
Speaker 17: but I think they feel comfortable going into at least
Speaker 17: twenty twenty six that they're in decent shape on the
Speaker 17: offensive line and it's not holding the team back as
Speaker 17: it've had in a lot of ways, you know, really
Speaker 17: the entirety of Burrow's career to this point.
Speaker 3: Good description from Robert Weintraub. The Bengals did give up
Speaker 3: three sacks last week. The twenty four to nothing final
Speaker 3: score had a little bit.
Speaker 5: To do with that.
Speaker 3: Baltimore had the opportunity to quote unquote pin their ears
Speaker 3: back go after the quarterback late in the game, but
Speaker 3: prior to that, one sack allowed in each of the
Speaker 3: previous four games.
Speaker 4: That's what you're looking for absolutely, you're looking for that
Speaker 4: type of level of performance and the consistency of it.
Speaker 4: You know, for or four games, to give up one
Speaker 4: quarterback sack per is good. I mean in today's football
Speaker 4: times that you're throwing the football, to allow just one
Speaker 4: quarterback sack is excellent. Really, the other thing you want
Speaker 4: to bear in mind is not only do you want
Speaker 4: to keep your quarterback from being sacked, you want to
Speaker 4: keep him from being pressured and hit. You don't want
Speaker 4: him taking too many shots and going to the ground.
Speaker 4: That's that's where you know, now you're exposing yourself to
Speaker 4: a higher percentage in risk of injury at that key position.
Speaker 4: So I do think the offensive line though, as a unit,
Speaker 4: has improved light years from the beginning of the year
Speaker 4: to this point in the season. I think the graft
Speaker 4: has definitely gone up, and Orlando Brown Junior is playing
Speaker 4: at a very consistent level. Dylan Fairchild, who you guys
Speaker 4: were talking about, the rookie guard from Georgia. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was a great perform in the SEC. You know,
Speaker 4: that's good football Alabama and everybody else that you that
Speaker 4: you play against, you're gonna play against good op position
Speaker 4: on a week to week basis. Ted Carriss has been
Speaker 4: around for a long time, understands the game and knows
Speaker 4: how to utilize fundamentals and techniques to his advantage. Out
Speaker 4: leverage opponents, very intelligent, makes all the calls to the
Speaker 4: offensive line, gets some in the right spots, blocking the
Speaker 4: right people. Dalton Reisner is a veteran guy who's been
Speaker 4: around and has solidified the right guard position for the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals. He's playing at a pretty darn good level.
Speaker 4: And Marius Mims getting it done. Big, strong, powerful, athletic.
Speaker 4: I mean just about every adjective that you can think
Speaker 4: of to describe a football player playing good football. Marius Mims.
Speaker 4: It fits him well. Jalen Rivers, the rookie that you
Speaker 4: talked about, dan bright future. I mean you put requirements
Speaker 4: for offensive linemen into a computer, that body type Jalen
Speaker 4: Rivers has comes spitting out of there, man. I mean
Speaker 4: he's this guy is going to be fun to walk.
Speaker 4: I think he's got a very bright future. And Cody
Speaker 4: Ford is the guy that can play anywhere. He plays
Speaker 4: center in a pinch. He's played a lot of guard
Speaker 4: and a lot of tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals. Lucas
Speaker 4: Patrick is a veteran guy that's been around the block
Speaker 4: and he can play center in guard. So I think
Speaker 4: the offensive line is turning into a strength rather than
Speaker 4: a weakness for the football team.
Speaker 3: You were involved recently in a Dine with the Old
Speaker 3: Line event where the old time sorry if that term
Speaker 3: offends you, the old time offensive lineman get together with
Speaker 3: the current offensive lineman guys like you and Anthony Munoz
Speaker 3: and Max Montoya chop it up with the current guys
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown junior, Ted Carris, et cetera. How is that
Speaker 3: interaction between the old and the new.
Speaker 5: It's great, it really was.
Speaker 4: You know, one thing you realize is there's not that
Speaker 4: much difference really in how guys approach their craft, how
Speaker 4: they work, what they have to do to get ready
Speaker 4: to play football. Understanding you know who they're supposed to block,
Speaker 4: how they're supposed to block them. It's it's it's a fraternity.
Speaker 5: It's a bond.
Speaker 4: It's like a bond that is never broken. And it
Speaker 4: was stands generations. You know, there were three distinct generations
Speaker 4: of offensive linemen at that function, and everybody interacted pretty well.
Speaker 4: The stories were flowing fast and free.
Speaker 3: Oh you guys all speak the same language.
Speaker 5: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, it was fun night, real fun.
Speaker 3: You all speak trenches in the trenches, baby, yep. All right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna take a time out when we come back.
Speaker 3: Our special guest has arrived. It's going to be with
Speaker 3: us until six o'clock tonight here at the On the
Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery. We'll talk to Sam Hubbard in just the moment.
Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just
Speaker 3: Bear Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the
Speaker 3: Bengals pep Rowley Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. We
Speaker 3: are live at the On the Ryan Eatery, the food
Speaker 3: hall above the Downtown Croker at Courton Walnut here in
Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati. We're here until six o'clock tonight, getting you
Speaker 3: ready for the Bengals and Dolphins coming up on Sunday
Speaker 3: at one. As promised a very special guest in the
Speaker 3: final hour of our show, and he has joined us
Speaker 3: a few minutes early, which we appreciate. Sam Hubbard in
Speaker 3: Jack his first year as a former Bengal. You look healthy,
Speaker 3: you look relaxed, nothing aches. Now you're not getting up
Speaker 3: on Mondays feeling terrible. You've got a nice pig smile
Speaker 3: on your face from first year as a former Bengal.
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's true. It's definitely in a different feeling on
Speaker 18: Monday mornings, like you said, But enjoining, I love being
Speaker 18: back home in Cincinnati. Still here connected with a bunch
Speaker 18: of the guys on Tuesday, a bunch of the D
Speaker 18: line guys, Trey Miles, cam had a little outreach thing.
Speaker 18: It was good to see some of those guys.
Speaker 3: Were you at the game last Sunday? I was somewhere
Speaker 3: in a suite.
Speaker 5: I hope. I did my best to stay with.
Speaker 3: How tough was it to play in conditions like that?
Speaker 3: You obviously played in some really cold games. That Christmas
Speaker 3: Eve game in New England I think was technically the coldest.
Speaker 3: Second AFC Championship game in Kansas City was really cold.
Speaker 3: How did you deal with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 18: I always felt the worst for the guys handling the ball,
Speaker 18: because you know, you do you do the tricks where
Speaker 18: you have surgical gloves underneath the actual gloves, right, and
Speaker 18: of course train ever wore gloves. But uh, I think
Speaker 18: that when you gotta like be dexterous and handle the ball.
Speaker 18: It's really tough, but you know, the contact feels a
Speaker 18: little bit more uncomfortable, your helmets frozen solid. Everything's a
Speaker 18: little bit more of a mental game at that temperature.
Speaker 18: And uh yeah, it's it's part of the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 4: I played in the Freezer Bowl and that thing was
Speaker 4: nine below a raw temperature and fifty nine below wind chill.
Speaker 18: They still talk about that game. They got brought up
Speaker 18: a lot on Sunday. Yeah, I mean it it was
Speaker 18: cruel and unusual punishment. You know, it was it was
Speaker 18: hard to hard to play the game of football, you know,
Speaker 18: under those conditions for a lot of the reasons that
Speaker 18: you talked about, Sam. I mean, you know, the hitting,
Speaker 18: you could really feel it. And then when you hit
Speaker 18: the ground the second hit, well moon, the two hits
Speaker 18: was like the raise what turf burn? Yeah, things much
Speaker 18: much worse. Absolutely, you know, everything's everything's magnified. And then
Speaker 18: you know, I decided I was gonna I had a grabber.
Speaker 18: I had a guy that Gary Bighans Johnson appropriately named.
Speaker 18: The guy had muckers on and they were like big
Speaker 18: old mits. He grabbed and pull. So I didn't want
Speaker 18: to have extraneous cloth there, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 18: all right, I'm gonna slap that vasse leno in there.
Speaker 18: They told us we can put it on exposed skin,
Speaker 18: put on my face, put.
Speaker 5: It on my arm. Yeah, that definitely helps. Yeah too.
Speaker 4: But man, when you swapped that thing and it coagulated,
Speaker 4: but which it stung like heck. Man, when you hit
Speaker 4: that bear that pair of skin, it was like it's working.
Speaker 4: I can feel it's working, man, because his hand would
Speaker 4: slide right off of there. The things you do to
Speaker 4: try to win football game.
Speaker 18: I've played a few games in Miami in Decemmer. It's
Speaker 18: a nice switch up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you that because now they go
Speaker 3: from you know, ten degrees last week to eighty one
Speaker 3: degrees supposedly this Sunday. When you went south late in
Speaker 3: the season, after the weather had taken a turn for
Speaker 3: the worst in the Midwest, did it completely energize you
Speaker 3: or you're like, man, it's gonna be warm, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go out and feel great today.
Speaker 5: No, you definitely feel great.
Speaker 18: The turf down there hard or it's natural grass, it's
Speaker 18: it's a really nice surface to play on. Softer, but
Speaker 18: you know, it's a hydration difference because the colder gets,
Speaker 18: the harder it gets, the hydrated, you don't really sweat
Speaker 18: as much. But you know, I remember being down there
Speaker 18: getting an ivy at half we played and I think
Speaker 18: it was double ot and uh what was that nineteen?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Actually, yeah, it's the burrow to a bowl.
Speaker 18: But yeah, it's it's an adjustment. You got to make
Speaker 18: sure you hydrate. But it was a nice switch up.
Speaker 18: I enjoyed it for sure. Yeah, I'm telling you, the
Speaker 18: going from the cold, the bitter cold, to the to
Speaker 18: the warmth. I mean your blood thickens. You know it
Speaker 18: literally does your blood thickens, and uh, you can you
Speaker 18: can feel it. Did you have many cramping problems when
Speaker 18: you went from cold to hot like that?
Speaker 15: I didn't really, and I know a lot of.
Speaker 5: I mean you're a highly conditioned dude. You gotta hydrate.
Speaker 18: And uh, I know Jamar is probably pumped about the
Speaker 18: playing in the heat, right, Yeah, it's easier. I think
Speaker 18: that they'll be slinging the ball around hopefully nice sunny day.
Speaker 3: How long did those halftime ivs take?
Speaker 18: Uh, it's it's a you get in there and you
Speaker 18: scream for an ivy back there, you got five minutes
Speaker 18: maybe to get it set up, hooked up, do a
Speaker 18: pressure bag, you miss the adjustments, and then you run
Speaker 18: out of there. The problem is is when twenty guys
Speaker 18: need Yeah, yeah, it's it's a process. The training stop
Speaker 18: does a great job, though, and you know you kind
Speaker 18: of give them a heads up if you're real, Like
Speaker 18: if there's a long two minute going into the half,
Speaker 18: if I was finding mad, I was like, hey, Matt,
Speaker 18: set me up, and then you run in there and
Speaker 18: get it taken care of.
Speaker 3: But get it kind of prioritized based on all right, well,
Speaker 3: these guys are starters. These guys are getting a bunch
Speaker 3: of snaps. They get them first.
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, Well, if you're not getting a bunch of
Speaker 15: snaps and you're getting.
Speaker 18: I V I think I would say something as right,
Speaker 18: get out of here. I wasn't when I was a rookie,
Speaker 18: I wasn't necessarily getting Ivis I hear you? You kind
Speaker 18: of get to earn your hierarchy.
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, I mean rookies and Tiger had a great
Speaker 4: line and when you guys young buckshee, rookies understand.
Speaker 5: You to be seen and never heard you got me
Speaker 5: never heard.
Speaker 18: I mean I adopted that for philosophy. Yeah, I think
Speaker 18: it's a wise one. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: So we've got warm weather to look forward to. This Sunday,
Speaker 3: the Bengals heading to Miami to take on the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about that and much more with our
Speaker 3: special guest, Sam Hubbard. Sam is with us until six
Speaker 3: o'clock tonight. We're here at the On the Rhine Eatery,
Speaker 3: the food hall above the downtown Kroger. If you've never
Speaker 3: been here before. Great place to come out and get
Speaker 3: a bite and have a drink on a Friday afternoon.
Speaker 3: They've got incredible dry rub wings. I'm from the Buffalo area.
Speaker 3: I know my wings. These are out as good as
Speaker 3: it gets in Cincinnati. They've got great burgers as well, sushi,
Speaker 3: other Asian food. There's a full service bar.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 3: It is the on the Rhine Eatery, just above the
Speaker 3: downtown Kroger at Court and walnutt. Plenty of seats available
Speaker 3: parking nearby. There's a garage attached. I would love to
Speaker 3: see you come out and join us in the final
Speaker 3: hour of the show. And as we've said earlier, if
Speaker 3: you've got a Bengals fan on your Christmas list, you
Speaker 3: can get something signed by Sam Hubbard. He'll do it
Speaker 3: for free. During the commercial breaks in the final hour
Speaker 3: of our show, we're going to take a time out
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Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, everybody. It's a Friday afternoon here in the
Speaker 3: Queen City. The Happy hour is underway, the work week
Speaker 3: is basically done, and we've got the Bengals pep Rally
Speaker 3: Show for you, presented by Just Bear Chicken. Life from
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Speaker 3: Come out and join us, grab a bite to eat,
Speaker 3: a lot of inexpensive items here there's a full service
Speaker 3: bar as well, and our very special guest in the
Speaker 3: final hour of the show today is former Bengals defensive
Speaker 3: end Sam Hubbard, whose NFL career came to an end
Speaker 3: at the end of last season. We're going to turn
Speaker 3: the clock back to the very last play. Oh baby,
Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard's NFL career. Let's listen. In Burrow fakes a handoff,
Speaker 3: throws a pass.
Speaker 16: Sam Hubbard with the catchon touchdown Bengals.
Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard raising.
Speaker 16: The football over his head and spiking at ground style
Speaker 16: after the first catch.
Speaker 4: How his NFL career Sam Hubbard's started his career at
Speaker 4: Moler High School.
Speaker 5: Is a tight end? Sam Hubbard is an athlete, Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 5: That's a great fingertip catch.
Speaker 3: It was a great fingertip catch. How about that spike?
Speaker 3: Was that something that you had in mind or was
Speaker 3: that completely in the moment.
Speaker 5: No, we had rehearsed that one.
Speaker 18: Joe was making me do them the routes full speed
Speaker 18: and walk through pre practice, and then we had to,
Speaker 18: you know, practice a spike. Of course, I almost messed
Speaker 18: it up, getting too excited as soon as I got up,
Speaker 18: but then held it back, gathered ted and the rest
Speaker 18: of the crew, and I actually gave it a legit spike.
Speaker 18: So uh it worked out one of the one of
Speaker 18: the coolest moments ever. I got Joe's jersey.
Speaker 15: From that game, nice framed in my basement.
Speaker 3: Uh got the ball.
Speaker 5: I got the ball too.
Speaker 3: Did you expect to be wide open?
Speaker 5: I mean normally I was not wide open.
Speaker 3: No, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm wondering if you
Speaker 3: being a defensive linemen lining up presumably to block.
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, Joe told me there's gonna be a guy
Speaker 18: on me, and I don't have the exact breakaway speed.
Speaker 5: But uh that was God.
Speaker 18: Yeah, the the in traffic catch. But it was a
Speaker 18: I think Zach was so confident in calling it because
Speaker 18: it was a third string or second string linebacker.
Speaker 5: They didn't really know.
Speaker 4: So huh, take advantage, no doubt, no doubt, take advantage
Speaker 4: of opportunities from opportunity knocks man open the door. So uh,
Speaker 4: Molar High School, Ohio State, Cincinnati Bengals. You are the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati kid, the Ohio kid. Are you glad?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 4: Is it something that as you reflect back on it,
Speaker 4: you even cherished their decisions you made even more to
Speaker 4: stay local?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 15: I think so.
Speaker 18: I think that now you know, the plan since I
Speaker 18: got drafted was to to always stay local. And you know,
Speaker 18: I'm here full time and want an opportunity to have
Speaker 18: the support system and everything that I had. And what
Speaker 18: makes it all the sweeter is the success. We were
Speaker 18: able to have here, the energy we brought to the
Speaker 18: fan base, and you know, if you recall that that
Speaker 18: run to the Super Bowl, what the city felt like
Speaker 18: walking around the streets for those months. I mean, I'll
Speaker 18: hold onto that time for the rest of my life,
Speaker 18: and you know, hoping for it again here soon I got.
Speaker 18: I got faith in our and our boys to uh
Speaker 18: to get back to the promised Land.
Speaker 3: I worked that back when he wanted back soon. You
Speaker 3: preceded Zach Taylor. You actually started your Bengals career when
Speaker 3: Marvin Lewis would the head coach. We had the opportunity
Speaker 3: to visit with Zach earlier today and I asked him
Speaker 3: about the impact you made on his career to this
Speaker 3: point as the Cincinnati Bengals head coach. Here's Zach Taylor,
Speaker 3: always the guy I.
Speaker 6: Could kill, Always a guy that if I needed and
Speaker 6: the opinion of a player on schedule or vibe of
Speaker 6: the team, or I knew I could get Sam up
Speaker 6: there and transparent and as a leader like it was
Speaker 6: fun for me to see when he finally decided, you know, realize,
Speaker 6: these guys respect me and I can now talk more.
Speaker 6: I don't just have to be the lead by example
Speaker 6: guy all the time, and I think that was more
Speaker 6: year two. So it was fun watching him become a
Speaker 6: captain and guys rally around him and we had the
Speaker 6: success we had, and he was a huge part of that.
Speaker 6: Fought through injuries. That's as a coach you appreciate that
Speaker 6: more than anybody, the guys that give you everything they
Speaker 6: have despite your circumstances. And Sam was the number one
Speaker 6: example of all that. And so that's that was always
Speaker 6: meant a lot to me to know that Sam was
Speaker 6: gonna we'll have the off season charter, we're going to
Speaker 6: play and doing everything I came to play. So that
Speaker 6: was that was great, and I you know, for him
Speaker 6: to he was on me for years to catch a
Speaker 6: pass and so first career to end on that play,
Speaker 6: it was very fitting, you know, it really was, and
Speaker 6: it I don't obviously don't want his career to end
Speaker 6: on an injury, but I think it was I can
Speaker 6: say this without feeling stupid, like it was a cool
Speaker 6: way for him to in his career. You got to
Speaker 6: go in and run one route all season and you
Speaker 6: kind of touching up past contest to catch from his
Speaker 6: college roommate.
Speaker 5: Pretty cool. But that was cool.
Speaker 3: I think he's right.
Speaker 5: It was cool.
Speaker 3: Were you on him in fact for years to catch
Speaker 3: a pass?
Speaker 18: No, that was pretty cool. I didn't you asked him that.
Speaker 18: I was definitely you know, in his year, I you know,
Speaker 18: jokingly because of my great reps as a rookie fullback.
Speaker 18: I was like, hey, you know, I'm ready, let's do
Speaker 18: it and go. And you know, when it comes down to, hey,
Speaker 18: here's the play we're calling it, it's a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 18: You get much more nervous and you're like, I don't
Speaker 18: know if I actually want this and drop it right here.
Speaker 5: But I got to give credit to Zach. He you know,
Speaker 5: he did.
Speaker 18: You know, he really made that happen and it was
Speaker 18: it turned the momentum in that game. But Zach, you know,
Speaker 18: I he did so much for me in my career.
Speaker 18: Have so much respect for him and how he's handled
Speaker 18: you know, tough situations from you know, twenty nineteen till now.
Speaker 18: You know, I can't say enough good things about Zach
Speaker 18: and how he goes about his business. Also watching you know,
Speaker 18: he watched my evolution. I watched his evolution from a
Speaker 18: first time head coach to where he is now.
Speaker 5: I think that he's learned.
Speaker 18: He's all you know, he journals and writes everything down
Speaker 18: and really reflect and gets better every year.
Speaker 15: So it's cool to be around a guy like that.
Speaker 15: And yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 4: When you're in your playing days with the Bengals Ohio State,
Speaker 4: who's the greatest player you ever played with? Who is
Speaker 4: the guy that had the biggest impact on the gaming
Speaker 4: on you?
Speaker 18: Obviously in my time with the Bengals, I would say,
Speaker 18: you know, Joe had the biggest impact, and that's kind
Speaker 18: of the obvious answer. But you know, I came into
Speaker 18: the league watching you know, Aj Green, you know he
Speaker 18: unfortunately got hurt, but in twenty eighteen, you know, winning
Speaker 18: games and overtime against Atlanta Falcons, Geno Atkins having ten sacks.
Speaker 18: You know, you come in and you see these legends
Speaker 18: you you grew up watching play at a high level
Speaker 18: and that was like, wow, that's you know, this is
Speaker 18: the epitome. And then go throughout my career and you
Speaker 18: see a guy like Jamar come in and his his
Speaker 18: youth and energy take you straight to a super Bowl
Speaker 18: and do some.
Speaker 5: Things you couldn't imagine.
Speaker 18: I mean, he's a different player than Aj but a
Speaker 18: twenty one year old kid watching him do some of
Speaker 18: these things with joe It's like, wow, this is this
Speaker 18: is cool to watch. But yeah, I played with a
Speaker 18: lot of great players, but you know, I think the
Speaker 18: most special player I've seen is Jamar I mean it's
Speaker 18: unbelievable Tea too. I mean, wow, some of the stuff
Speaker 18: they do. They're so different in the way they play.
Speaker 18: But what great players in the privilege to watch and
Speaker 18: play with?
Speaker 4: What about college? Who would be the guy or guys
Speaker 4: he might choose from a college career.
Speaker 18: So I came into Ohio State, like you said, I
Speaker 18: didn't know anything about the position, and once I was
Speaker 18: transitioned to defensive line, they put me directly behind Joey Bosa. Yeah,
Speaker 18: and I just watched Joey do everything and a lot
Speaker 18: of the defensive line stuff. I mean, he worked tirelessly,
Speaker 18: but he's probably the most gifted natural pass rusher like.
Speaker 5: Ever I've ever seen. So the way he moved and
Speaker 5: the way he worked his craft.
Speaker 15: If I just.
Speaker 18: Followed exactly what he was doing in the drill, like
Speaker 18: you watch his drill, just try and copy how he
Speaker 18: does the drill right, if you do it half as good,
Speaker 18: you're you're doing all right. But I think a lot
Speaker 18: of players see Joey or have seen Joey in college
Speaker 18: when you know, we won the national championship. He had
Speaker 18: twelve and a half sacks. I mean, probably the best
Speaker 18: defensive player I've ever seen, so still playing. He's having
Speaker 18: a good year. He's playing really well for the Sales
Speaker 18: this year. It was fun to watch who else on
Speaker 18: the buck eys I gotta go Joey. I mean, some
Speaker 18: of the stuff a Zeke Elliott did, Michael Michael Thomas.
Speaker 18: Watching Michael Thomas and Eli Apple go at it in
Speaker 18: practice in spring, just doing one on ones was some
Speaker 18: of the most competitive football I've ever watched because it
Speaker 18: was about it was about pride, and they would talk
Speaker 18: so much to each other, a lot of trash Talkoh yeah,
Speaker 18: but that's good thing about How say you get exposed
Speaker 18: to some incredible generation players.
Speaker 3: It was interesting hearing Zach Taylor talked about how he
Speaker 3: leaned on your leadership, especially once you had established yourself
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. Did he call on you often to get
Speaker 3: input on, as he said, the schedule or the vibe
Speaker 3: and in the locker room, did he have he come
Speaker 3: up to the offense and office rather and kind of
Speaker 3: fill him in.
Speaker 18: Yeah, as I went throughout my career, I think he
Speaker 18: does that with a lot of players. I mean, as
Speaker 18: the head coach, your job is to assess where the
Speaker 18: team is, where the head of the team is. And
Speaker 18: as leaders as captains, your job is to shoot it
Speaker 18: straight to the coach about what you're seeing and what
Speaker 18: needs to be addressed because his job is to make
Speaker 18: decisions and he needs to have all the information about
Speaker 18: you know, our players really you know, upset about talctice
Speaker 18: and inside or outside, like he makes a decision and
Speaker 18: the whole team can be like, oh what. You know,
Speaker 18: the transparent communication was always what Zach was after and
Speaker 18: I tried to do my best, you know, tell him
Speaker 18: what he needed to hear or wanted to hear. And
Speaker 18: it's not like you need to be scared of him,
Speaker 18: but you know that comes with trust and you know
Speaker 18: he understands that I'm not just serving my own interest
Speaker 18: or he's not serving his own interests. And I think
Speaker 18: there's guys on the team, Ted BJ, there's guys that
Speaker 18: he can go to now. But you know, Zach was
Speaker 18: always trying to get the most information to do right
Speaker 18: and make the right decisions by the team. And that
Speaker 18: only comes if you have people that'll tell you the truth.
Speaker 4: You are not only a great football player, you were
Speaker 4: unbelievable lacrosse player as well. Tell us about your lacrosse career.
Speaker 4: When did that start, how did that start, and did
Speaker 4: you play any other sports growing up?
Speaker 5: In third grade? I played lacrosse. Well.
Speaker 18: I grew up doing all the sports like I think
Speaker 18: every kid should, you know, soccer, baseball, but had to
Speaker 18: choose between baseball and lacrosse in the spring, and I
Speaker 18: chose lacrosse in third grade. So third grade starts tackle
Speaker 18: football and you start lacrosse. And played basketball in the
Speaker 18: winner and that was kind of you know, the grade school.
Speaker 18: But I was always you know, my brother's a cross player.
Speaker 18: I would spend hours outside throwing against the wall and
Speaker 18: really took to it. And I was always the la
Speaker 18: cross player, you know, one of the best players to
Speaker 18: play wherever it was.
Speaker 15: And I was an okay football player, you know, I
Speaker 15: did all right.
Speaker 18: And then you know, I get to high school and
Speaker 18: get invited to all these camps and make varsity as
Speaker 18: a freshman, and I was a lacrosse guy and get
Speaker 18: the offers early. Was really cool to be viewed as
Speaker 18: you know, you're such a highly sought after recruit because
Speaker 18: it's all on the East Coast. You know, it was
Speaker 18: very really for Midwestern players to get offers and get recruited.
Speaker 18: So I was, you know, going about my business. Then
Speaker 18: we had success in football. We went state my junior year,
Speaker 18: and you know, the recruiting process, I think the rules
Speaker 18: were a lot different as far as contacting back then.
Speaker 18: But I was just finished my freshman year, committed to
Speaker 18: go play college lacrosse at Notre Dame. At Notre Dame
Speaker 18: just turned sixteen, so you know you're going into sophomore
Speaker 18: year already knowing you're going to Notre Dame on lacrosse scholarship,
Speaker 18: so you know, you play football for fun.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 18: Two years later was when we win state as a
Speaker 18: junior and I get recruited for football, and I tell
Speaker 18: coach coach Rodenberg, who was the Muller varsity coach at
Speaker 18: the time, you know, I'm a lacrosse player. There's only
Speaker 18: four schools that I would listen to if they came knocking.
Speaker 18: It was Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan and Stanford and
Speaker 18: as soon as those are the schools, but that's what
Speaker 18: you give up. That's what I was willing to give
Speaker 18: up lacrosse to consider. And of those schools, Ohio State
Speaker 18: was kind of the first one to really offer me,
Speaker 18: and then after that everyone everyone came once the word
Speaker 18: got out. But funny enough, Notre Dame didn't didn't want
Speaker 18: to take from their own program and let me play football,
Speaker 18: so kind of was hands were tied on that decision.
Speaker 18: They wanted me to play lacrosse and said I could
Speaker 18: I think walk on or they.
Speaker 14: It wasn't.
Speaker 18: Athletic directors got to be fired. It wasn't like they
Speaker 18: wanted me to come play football. I definitely knew that
Speaker 18: was the vibe, but I loved their lacrosse program, but
Speaker 18: ultimately decided it was the full ride that I had
Speaker 18: to go with at Ohio State and had to shift
Speaker 18: my mindset from being, you know, the lacrosse player to like,
Speaker 18: I was a solid football player, but now I'm going
Speaker 18: all in.
Speaker 3: So lap and I both went to Syracuse famous lacrosse program.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, most final fours of any school did
Speaker 3: they for lacrosse?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 3: They come on, they love.
Speaker 18: Their East Coast guys. Pat Kennedy I think was the
Speaker 18: Moller guy that went to Syracuse though, yeah he was.
Speaker 18: He was still holds maybe the all time goals.
Speaker 5: Was there a father son, Pat Kennedy father.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the father I think coached for a while.
Speaker 18: I think you might have coached my brother. Then Pat
Speaker 18: Kennedy coached me and a select travel team. But great players,
Speaker 18: lacrosse family.
Speaker 5: I all right.
Speaker 3: In the last week or so, there have been a
Speaker 3: lot of national stories about Joe Burrow, Where is his mindset,
Speaker 3: does he want to be in Cincinnati?
Speaker 5: Whatever?
Speaker 3: You've all heard about it and read about it. Well,
Speaker 3: Sam knows Joe as well as just about anybody. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk about Joe when we continue with our
Speaker 3: special guest, Sam Hubbard. We are live at the on
Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery, the food hall above the downtown Kroger.
Speaker 3: It's the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear
Speaker 3: Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals
Speaker 3: pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. It's a
Speaker 3: Friday afternoon here in the Queen City. We're getting ready
Speaker 3: for the Bengals and Dolphins coming up. On Sunday at
Speaker 3: one o'clock. We are live today at the on the
Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery, our Friday afternoon home for the Bengals pep
Speaker 3: Rally show. It's the food hall above the downtown Kroger
Speaker 3: at Court and Walnut, and our special guest Sam Hubbard
Speaker 3: is with us for the second week in a row.
Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. Sam is here until six o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3: We'll be breaking down some plays just a little bit
Speaker 3: later on the show, but we want to talk about
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow in this segment. Joe's a very close friend
Speaker 3: of yours, going back to your days at Ohio State,
Speaker 3: and last week it made headlines when Joe expressed frustration.
Speaker 3: It's been a tough year coming back from his injury.
Speaker 3: The team's not going to the playoffs. We get it,
Speaker 3: he's frustrated. Mike Brown's frustrated, Duke Tubbin's frustrated. I'm frustrated, well,
Speaker 3: but he's frustrated. We want this team to get back
Speaker 3: to the postseason as quickly as possible. But there's just
Speaker 3: something about Joe when it comes to the national media
Speaker 3: where they're just determined to insist did he hate Cincinnati
Speaker 3: even before he was drafted. What did we hear, Oh,
Speaker 3: he's gonna pull an Eli Manning, gonna want to go
Speaker 3: to the Bengals. Then he comes here, does great things,
Speaker 3: says nothing great, nothing but great things about Cincinnati, about
Speaker 3: playing for Zach Taylor set. So I get a little
Speaker 3: bit agitated anytime I see these talk shows where people
Speaker 3: are cooking up these wild scenarios. Ah, the Jet should
Speaker 3: trade for him tomorrow. Please, you're driving me crazy. In
Speaker 3: any case, Albert Breer is the number one NFL guy
Speaker 3: for Sports Illustrated. He comes to town every year in
Speaker 3: spring camp or fall training camp. He has a great
Speaker 3: relationship with Joe, always talks to Joe whenever he comes
Speaker 3: to town. Typically writes a very good story for Sports
Speaker 3: Illustrated about Joe whenever he's here. So he posted a
Speaker 3: video yesterday about this situation with Joe Burrow, and I
Speaker 3: thought it was just about perfect. So we're going to
Speaker 3: play this from Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated, and then
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Sam Hubbard about it. So
Speaker 3: here is Albert Breer on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 13: I've had conversations with Joe about this over the course
Speaker 13: of the last five years, and I can tell you this,
Speaker 13: he really views himself as the change agent there, as
Speaker 13: the guy who was going to really turn the page
Speaker 13: for that organization. He used this phrase with me a
Speaker 13: few times earlier in his career, where he said, the
Speaker 13: old Bengals are dead.
Speaker 11: This isn't the old Bengals anymore.
Speaker 13: And he really has had a voice in that organization,
Speaker 13: in getting Jamar Chase paid and getting T.
Speaker 11: Higgins paid, and like you even look at things like
Speaker 11: the practice bubble right like they didn't have a practice.
Speaker 13: Bubble in Cincinnati, Ohio, which sounds crazy, but you know,
Speaker 13: his presence there I think is part of why they
Speaker 13: now have an indoor facility. The scouting staff last off
Speaker 13: season was expanded. That's the first time they've done that
Speaker 13: in forever. And they still have some more to do
Speaker 13: in building the operation out, but he's changed that as well.
Speaker 13: And so I think his level of investment in the
Speaker 13: Bengals organization and his interest in being the change agent.
Speaker 11: There, I think is very very real.
Speaker 13: And so I don't think you have to be worried
Speaker 13: about Joe Burrow elbowing his way out of there now,
Speaker 13: but it's something that should be on the Bengals radar
Speaker 13: going forward, and it's something that's on the radar every
Speaker 13: time he makes one of these sorts of comments with
Speaker 13: the other thirty one team. So I think Joe is
Speaker 13: still invested in making it work with the Bengals. I
Speaker 13: think Joe still wants to be the change agent in Cincinnati.
Speaker 13: I still think I still know that he feels that
Speaker 13: there'd be great value and being the person who turned
Speaker 13: a franchise around in that sort of manner. I mean,
Speaker 13: he has a chance to be what Joe Montana is
Speaker 13: in San Francisco, what Tom Brady is in New England
Speaker 13: and Cincinnati, and I think he really values that. Then
Speaker 13: you know, you look at and say, okay, like, could
Speaker 13: this eventually be Matthew Stafford in Detroit? Like that's possible too.
Speaker 11: I don't think we're there yet, but you know, you
Speaker 11: get a few years down.
Speaker 13: The line and this still isn't working, then certainly I
Speaker 13: think that could that that could wind up happening. And
Speaker 13: so to me, I look at this as the pressures
Speaker 13: on the Bengals to keep building aggressively around him, to
Speaker 13: create championship scenarios for him.
Speaker 11: But that's been what it's been since he was drafted
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: All right, So I think that's very fair analysis from
Speaker 3: Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated. Sam, what did you think
Speaker 3: when you heard that?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it was very fair. I mean, and
Speaker 18: he puts things in perspective. You're right, there is you know,
Speaker 18: a fixation on Joe from the national media for whatever reason.
Speaker 18: I think it's because he's such a great player and
Speaker 18: people you know, love to talk about him or you know,
Speaker 18: analyze what he does. But very much so, Joe views
Speaker 18: himself as the change agente and a lot of the
Speaker 18: change that has come since I walked in the door,
Speaker 18: Joe was the catalyst for you know, you remember, we
Speaker 18: hadn't won a playoff game in thirty one years, and
Speaker 18: we go to the super Bowl, and I understand that
Speaker 18: we want to go to the super.
Speaker 5: Bowl every year, but h to you know, focus.
Speaker 18: On Joe being you know, anything but the driving force
Speaker 18: of you know, doing everything in the whole organization, trying
Speaker 18: to mobilize and as he said, invest aggressively to get there.
Speaker 18: You know, it's kind of doing the disservice, making a
Speaker 18: narrative out of nothing. Like everyone in that building is
Speaker 18: you know, focused on trying to the narrative and uh,
Speaker 18: you know, we really had some great years where it
Speaker 18: felt like there would never be another losing season. But
Speaker 18: it's the NFL is tough every year, some new team
Speaker 18: emergings and for whatever reason, the mixes of guys, injuries,
Speaker 18: coaching turnover. You know, it can be attributed to a
Speaker 18: lot of things, but the attribute to get to Joe
Speaker 18: being checked out is not one that.
Speaker 5: Should should make the headlines.
Speaker 18: In my opinion, I agree thirty one years. I mean,
Speaker 18: when you think about that, I mean, what more do
Speaker 18: you want from the guy? He was a month early
Speaker 18: from a total toe replacement surgery, and like his dedication
Speaker 18: to come back just to give the team a chance,
Speaker 18: and even if they didn't have a chance, just to
Speaker 18: be out there with his guys to play football. He
Speaker 18: could have honed it in before the season was even there,
Speaker 18: could have honed it in never played another snap, but
Speaker 18: he worked for three months tirelessly to get back out
Speaker 18: there because he loves ball and he loves being in Ohio.
Speaker 18: Guys about as higle guy as I am, even more so.
Speaker 18: So you know, it takes a great pride in playing
Speaker 18: for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: I know that I've said over the years, the calendar
Speaker 3: historically is measured in you know, years BC and AD,
Speaker 3: But in this case, this is the year six JB
Speaker 3: because things have changed since Joe Burrow arrived in Cincinnati. Now,
Speaker 3: maybe not at the pace as some people would like, right,
Speaker 3: but every year the Bengals have been trying to do
Speaker 3: something that has made the franchise better, whether it's building
Speaker 3: the bubble, whether it's rebuilding the locker room, the training facility,
Speaker 3: the weight room. Obviously we saw the contracts they handed
Speaker 3: out last year to Jamar and t. So the next
Speaker 3: project is to fix the defense. The defense just has
Speaker 3: not been good enough the last couple of years. They're
Speaker 3: gonna have to aggressively attack that this offseason because we
Speaker 3: know the offense is going to be.
Speaker 5: Good absolutely, you know.
Speaker 4: And and I think Joe Burrow has as much influence
Speaker 4: and pull with his organization as any quarterback in the area.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think the Brown Blackburn family,
Speaker 4: to give them credit.
Speaker 5: They listen to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they know they know that he he
Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about, and they know that he's
Speaker 4: representing the opinion of the football team. Uh, and and
Speaker 4: he's definitely the leader of the pack. So it, like
Speaker 4: you said, a lot of the stuff that they've done, Dan,
Speaker 4: and kudos to them. It's it's tremendous. I mean they've
Speaker 4: been you know, called penny pinchers, cheap all that for
Speaker 4: for years and I think, you know, at some point
Speaker 4: in time, you do get sick and tired of it.
Speaker 5: If I'm them, I would be yeah.
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I do think that the Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow era has many chapters left, and hopefully the final
Speaker 4: chapter is the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong for the organization to get together
Speaker 3: at the end of this year, once all of the
Speaker 3: data is in and say, Okay, why haven't our most
Speaker 3: recent picks been more successful? Why haven't some of our
Speaker 3: more recent free agent signings been more successful? It was
Speaker 3: working in twenty one and twenty two, that hasn't worked
Speaker 3: quite as well since. And let's fix that because we've
Speaker 3: got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. When
Speaker 3: you start with that, you've got a chance of doing anything.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've pointed this out before as well.
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty one, the Super Bowl team that you
Speaker 3: played on lap the team won six games the year before.
Speaker 3: In eighty eight when they went to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: they won four games the year before. Sam, the team
Speaker 3: that you went to the Super Bowl with in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, you won four games the year before. That's
Speaker 3: how it happens in the NFL. So frequently it's not
Speaker 3: just a steady climb to the mountaintop. Sometimes you've got
Speaker 3: some things right, you've got other things that need help.
Speaker 3: You fix that thing that needs help, and now you're
Speaker 3: in the mix to win a title.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It's a it's an interesting recipe, you know, building a
Speaker 4: building a franchise, building a football team.
Speaker 5: Uh, sometimes it's just.
Speaker 4: Like one ingredient, one one last spice is all it's
Speaker 4: gonna take to to get you over the top and
Speaker 4: take you to the promised Land. And uh, I do
Speaker 4: think with Joe Burrow at quarterback and some of the
Speaker 4: skilled players they have offensively, they're close.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I mean that is the hardest part to a lot
Speaker 18: of teams wish that they had the quarterback part figuring
Speaker 18: out that very few people on the earth can do
Speaker 18: what he does. And you know we've got the guy
Speaker 18: and I Joe, you know, everyone wants him to speak
Speaker 18: or use his voice, and Joe knows how much his
Speaker 18: uh you know how with the impact of his word
Speaker 18: and his opinions, and he uses it to better the
Speaker 18: organization and the team. And like you said, the ownership
Speaker 18: values what he says and tries to mobilize on what
Speaker 18: he requests because it's gonna help everybody. So yep, you know,
Speaker 18: I kind of just let those those narratives spin off.
Speaker 18: Like I'm sure you know the players do as well.
Speaker 3: Sure, right. When Sam joins us on our radio shows,
Speaker 3: we like to break down some plays from the previous game.
Speaker 3: We're not going to do quite as many this week
Speaker 3: because last week's game obviously didn't go very well for Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: but we we do have a a few plays excuse me,
Speaker 3: that Sam has picked out. We'll get to those when
Speaker 3: we come back. This is the Bengals pep Rally Show.
Speaker 3: We're presented each week by Just Bear Chicken, live from
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Speaker 3: downtown Kroger Here on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 11: While honoring our past.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by
Speaker 3: Just Bear Chicken Live from the on the Rhine Eatery.
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham, our special guest in
Speaker 3: the final hour of the show this week, Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate Sam coming out in joining us this week.
Speaker 3: We'll be back here at the on the Rhine Eatery
Speaker 3: next Friday from three to six. We tentatively have rookie
Speaker 3: left guard Dylan Fairchild scheduled to be our guest in
Speaker 3: the fi hour of the show. We'll confirm that early
Speaker 3: next week, but as of a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: looked good for Dylan to be able to join us
Speaker 3: next Friday from five to six. When Sam joins us,
Speaker 3: we'd like to have him break down some plays nice
Speaker 3: typically few on offense, few on defense. Unfortunately, the offense
Speaker 3: didn't score last week, so we're just gonna go with
Speaker 3: a couple of plays on defense, and we're going to
Speaker 3: start in the first quarter. Baltimore got the ball to
Speaker 3: begin the game. The Bengals won the toss, elected to
Speaker 3: to first. So the defense trying to shut down Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson and keep the Ravens off the scoreboard early in
Speaker 3: the game, and that's exactly what they did on the
Speaker 3: opening drive. Here's how that drive ended third down and seven.
Speaker 3: Baltimore and its own forty nine first drive of the game.
Speaker 3: Lamar with a deep drop looking to throw, begins scrambling
Speaker 3: and gets brought down near the line of scrimmage Miles
Speaker 3: Murphy with a tackle. There's a loss on the play,
Speaker 3: so that'll be a sack and the Bengals will force
Speaker 3: Baltimore to punt. That's great, all right, Sam, tell us
Speaker 3: a little bit about what's about to you on that play.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I got to point out Miles Murphy. You know, I
Speaker 18: said I was with him on Tuesday. He looks great.
Speaker 18: He told me he was about two sixty five to seven,
Speaker 18: so a little bit leaner, but you see it in
Speaker 18: the play speed, like his play speed every week just
Speaker 18: seems to be picking up and.
Speaker 5: Getting those two sacks.
Speaker 12: I know.
Speaker 5: It's big for your confidence, Kevin.
Speaker 18: You know a couple of good games like that early
Speaker 18: in your career for me, made me really, you know,
Speaker 18: ascend and start feeling some confidence. And I watched him play.
Speaker 18: He was using his hands, getting extension, being reactive off
Speaker 18: the ball. You know, he beat two tight ends like
Speaker 18: very cleanly. And Lamar is not an easy guy to
Speaker 18: bring down, so I think if you're looking for a
Speaker 18: bright spot, you got to look at Miles Murphy and
Speaker 18: the way he's been playing the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: He is is athletic on the edges there is in
Speaker 4: the NFL. I mean, the guy has got superb athleticism,
Speaker 4: doesn't he.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the way he moves is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 18: I remember when you know, first drills he did after
Speaker 18: the draft, and it was unbelievable how fast he moves
Speaker 18: because of his size. He's He's a huge dude, and
Speaker 18: I think that he's really allowing that to translate to
Speaker 18: increased game speed. And you know, once that all clicks
Speaker 18: with his with his tools, he could be really really special.
Speaker 18: And you know, I think that it's really starting to click,
Speaker 18: and he's starting to string together some nice games, some
Speaker 18: nice pressures. I thought he and Joseph Aside played well together.
Speaker 3: One of your strengths was setting the edge in run defense.
Speaker 3: I feel like Miles, by and large has done that
Speaker 3: much better this year than the previous two. Does that
Speaker 3: send out to you?
Speaker 18: Yeah, there was a few plays. I remember it played
Speaker 18: last Sunday a little. I think it was a pitch
Speaker 18: action out to the flat, and he was about five
Speaker 18: yards in the backfield setting the edge. And when you're
Speaker 18: playing that left defensive end, you know you're usually getting
Speaker 18: the bigger right tackle and the more athletic left tackles
Speaker 18: on the other side guarding the blind side. But when
Speaker 18: they're running the ball, you know they usually run to
Speaker 18: the side of the left defensive end. And you also
Speaker 18: got to think about the fact that at the left
Speaker 18: defensive end, you are the quarterback's face and that's the
Speaker 18: escape lane he's staring at when he drops back, and
Speaker 18: you know, Trey had the blind side and the quarterback
Speaker 18: can't really see if you're running too deep. But as
Speaker 18: far as being the left defensive end, you have to
Speaker 18: be in your power family rush and collapse in the pocket,
Speaker 18: and you can't just kind of speed rush every time,
Speaker 18: which his size and speed puts him in a great
Speaker 18: spot to be successful on the left edge. But it
Speaker 18: all starts with you know, you got to be the
Speaker 18: shutdown run guy on that side of the ball, and
Speaker 18: then you can work your power, work your speed, and
Speaker 18: he's kind of putting it all together to be a
Speaker 18: three down player.
Speaker 4: Josephsai to compliment him on the other on the other edge.
Speaker 4: He's more of that speed rush guy that you're that
Speaker 4: you're talking about, but if needed, I mean he can
Speaker 4: he can to gap and shut that rundown pretty decently.
Speaker 4: Do you do you like where the Bengals are with
Speaker 4: their tandem and defense.
Speaker 18: Ave end, Yeah, no doubt. I think they're playing well.
Speaker 18: I think I'm excited to see Schamhar come back, and
Speaker 18: every rep for him is just gonna be beneficial and
Speaker 18: his career, So seeing him back out there is gonna
Speaker 18: be great. And then you got Cam Sample who's just
Speaker 18: been a great rotational guy, very consistent, and those two
Speaker 18: guys can't be enough. You have to have at least
Speaker 18: three starting level caliber defensive ends in rotation at all times.
Speaker 18: You look at any great D line and they'll have
Speaker 18: you know, two guys will start the game, but there's
Speaker 18: really three starting defensive ends. That's essential. So you know,
Speaker 18: Trey's out with I think he's doing well off his surgery,
Speaker 18: but you got to have a third guy Merge. Hopefully
Speaker 18: they can be Shamar and Cam's really just a plug
Speaker 18: and play on de tackle or anywhere. You got to
Speaker 18: have those versatile guys too. But as far as you know,
Speaker 18: this year I think Joseph is a free agent, but
Speaker 18: you gotta have three. That's that's what I'll say.
Speaker 3: All Right, we heard one highlight. Let's get to another.
Speaker 3: The first highlight was a sack on Baltimore's opening drive.
Speaker 3: Now we're going to go to the Ravens second drive,
Speaker 3: and the Bengals got to Lamar Jackson again. Let's listen.
Speaker 3: In the Ravens line up in an eye formation, it's
Speaker 3: a fake to the left. Jackson runs to the right
Speaker 3: and gets sacked at the ten yard line by Demetrius Knight. Right,
Speaker 3: he intercepted Lamar Jackson in the first meeting and the
Speaker 3: tackle was made at the nine yard line for a
Speaker 3: big loss.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this, deja sack he's going to have.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not touched, nobody lays a fingernail on him,
Speaker 4: and he does a great job of containing Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: It's been a growing process for Demetrius Knight. Rookie thrown
Speaker 3: right in there in the starting lineup in week one.
Speaker 3: He had a couple of sacks in the game last
Speaker 3: weekend of forest Fumble. Your thoughts on Demetrius Knight.
Speaker 18: Yeah, like you said, the growth, I put that play
Speaker 18: on there because I saw a bunch of opportunities early
Speaker 18: in the season where he or other young linebackers were
Speaker 18: in the exact spot and they did the fatal era
Speaker 18: where you jump you leave your feet. He gave Lamar,
Speaker 18: gave a pump fake and he didn't leave his feet.
Speaker 18: He let he matched the hand and you fall right
Speaker 18: into a sack. But as a young player, it's just
Speaker 18: so easy to jump and as soon as you jump there,
Speaker 18: he's out of there. And I thought he showed some discipline,
Speaker 18: which means that I don't know Demetrius personally, but if
Speaker 18: he's been taking those mistakes he made early in the year,
Speaker 18: correcting him and turning them into production, that bodes well
Speaker 18: for his career and his development. So hopefully that you know,
Speaker 18: that's the progress he's making in the meeting room and
Speaker 18: with his coaching, and I was happy to see him
Speaker 18: have that production for his confidence.
Speaker 4: You're right on with Demetrious Knight. I mean, his teammates
Speaker 4: and coaches all say that he is a sponge. He
Speaker 4: wants to learn. I mean he's one of those guys
Speaker 4: that is never satisfied. He's always asking questions, always looking
Speaker 4: to learn more. Can't have enough of those guys.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a hard thing to do to be a
Speaker 18: starting middle linebacker in the NFL calling the defense. Even
Speaker 18: Logan Wilson his rookie year, we had Josh Bienes, a
Speaker 18: ten year veteran right that would start and call the
Speaker 18: defense and hold like kind of hold Logan's hand until
Speaker 18: Logan blossom.
Speaker 5: Into being, you know, the guy.
Speaker 18: But to get thrown into that position at that age,
Speaker 18: it's it's not like you're just you know, rushing the
Speaker 18: passer or doing something that doesn't have consequences of the
Speaker 18: ten guys around you. So it's a bit a lot
Speaker 18: on his shoulders. But I think that next year he'll
Speaker 18: be a leg up because whenever you go through that
Speaker 18: growing process, sooner the better.
Speaker 5: Sometimes.
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Speaker 3: it No Your School. Yes, that's a few minutes away.
Speaker 3: But while we just have a brief segment here, let's
Speaker 3: get an update on the foundation. You know, Ted Carris
Speaker 3: has been named the Bengals nominee for the Walter Payton
Speaker 3: Man of the Year Award for the second time. And
Speaker 3: that's something that you were nominated for in the past,
Speaker 3: recognizing the work that you've done over several years now
Speaker 3: for your foundation.
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, I'm pulling for Ted this year. I think
Speaker 18: he's got a real shot. I'd love to see him
Speaker 18: actually win it. How's was it Kenny Anderson that wonted?
Speaker 3: Kenny, Anthony Munos you want to and Reggie Williams are
Speaker 3: the three Bengals to win it while they were Bengals. Additionally,
Speaker 3: Boomersiasin won it after you know, joining the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Right another Bengal won it after leaving and it'll come
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 5: And whitworth. Oh yeah, yeah, you want it? The year
Speaker 5: that we played the Super Bowl, Yeah right.
Speaker 3: And actually Mendello Williams, a lot of fans might not
Speaker 3: remember that name. He didn't play that long in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: but he also wanted after going to another team. The
Speaker 3: Bengals have been well represented in the highest honor the
Speaker 3: NFL gives out aside from you know, MVP Award and
Speaker 3: on field things. Right, this is the ultimate prize you
Speaker 3: can get for your all around contribution.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 18: But May fourteenth is gonna be our annual fowling tournament.
Speaker 18: Mark your calendars taken to go on sale. You can
Speaker 18: follow social media, but uh, we're hard at work closing
Speaker 18: out the year, a really strong year. We weren't sure
Speaker 18: what it would look like with the retirement, but uh,
Speaker 18: you know, we're we're doing better than ever and built
Speaker 18: for the sustainability of the programs we're running and happy
Speaker 18: to lean into it much more with my free time
Speaker 18: and meeting a lot of cool people, doing a lot
Speaker 18: of cool things in the city and seeing how we
Speaker 18: can work together is really something I'm enjoying right now.
Speaker 4: Have you ever gone candlepin bowling? I haven't you ever
Speaker 4: hear of that. No, it's the pins are long and
Speaker 4: skinny and they have like a ring around them, like
Speaker 4: a candle.
Speaker 3: And they have a place here since I'm very new England.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very it's New England. Yeah, we used to go
Speaker 4: candlepin bowling almost every week.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 18: Yeah if the ball, the ball is tiny, well they
Speaker 18: have pins mechanical it's just like a smaller bowling type thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 15: And they just opened a darts bar down here.
Speaker 5: Is that right ted throughout the first dart?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that first dart. I stopped by on Thursday.
Speaker 5: It's a really cool spot spot all right.
Speaker 3: So the Falling Tournament is May fourteenth. That sucker always
Speaker 3: sells out. It's a very popular event, so check the
Speaker 3: website for more information and tickets as the day gets closer.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, you'll see, uh the save the date for
Speaker 18: when the tickets go live on the Sam Hubert Foundation
Speaker 18: social media and we'll do the best to make sure
Speaker 18: everyone's got a head start.
Speaker 5: All right. Congratulations to you for making the community you
Speaker 5: a better placement. Thanks, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: Know Your School. And we've done this with Sam multiple
Speaker 3: times in the past, so there are almost only so
Speaker 3: many Ohio state questions out there. We're going Molar High School.
Speaker 3: I've got five questions about Molar High School in this
Speaker 3: Know Your School edition. You must get at least three
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Speaker 3: Mike was one of my college buddies at Syracuse. He
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Speaker 3: All of you all right. Time for know your school.
Speaker 3: Five questions about Molar High School, Big Mo. You must
Speaker 3: get at least three rights to be a winner. Dave
Speaker 3: Lapham's son, who also went to Molar and is with
Speaker 3: us today, is not allowed to give you any answer.
Speaker 3: Question number one, Name the two Major League Baseball Hall
Speaker 3: of famers who went to Molar High.
Speaker 15: School, Ken Griffy Junior and Barry Larkin.
Speaker 3: You are correct one for one nice question, the easy
Speaker 3: then you ripped that.
Speaker 14: That was.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: This one's a little bit more difficult. Who was the
Speaker 3: first principal at Molar High School?
Speaker 18: That's a tough one. Yeah, that is, yeah, the first principal. Yep,
Speaker 18: I'm trying to think of names I've seen hung around
Speaker 18: the walls.
Speaker 15: He knows it.
Speaker 3: He does not appear to know it. Dave Lapham Sunday
Speaker 3: does not appear to know it.
Speaker 5: You know, went and down. Just go Jerry Faust or
Speaker 5: brother Flaherty.
Speaker 3: Oh for two, Lawrence eve Slage.
Speaker 15: So Eve Slage is one of the houses of the
Speaker 15: house system.
Speaker 5: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Question number three. That's amazing. There are six houses in
Speaker 3: the motor house system. Name at least three. You don't
Speaker 3: have all that pillar that was yours?
Speaker 5: Right, that pillar Zara Goza, yep, Eve Slage. That's three.
Speaker 3: All right, you're already got it right, But you.
Speaker 5: Know, I just don't know.
Speaker 3: I I'm glad I only asked for three. Four am
Speaker 3: I to stumped you? We have Quiroga Roga.
Speaker 5: Trinity, Trinity shou one and Taylor Taylor.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, Zaylor Zayloralor's right, Zaylor. It's a combination
Speaker 3: of Zad and Taylor.
Speaker 18: Makes sense that they you know, where they came up
Speaker 18: with the name's last name of the principal stuff. I
Speaker 18: always wondered where they came from.
Speaker 3: There you go, all right? Question number four. What Moeler
Speaker 3: grad ascended to Speaker of the House John by John
Speaker 3: Baynor is correct? All right, you're already a winner, but
Speaker 3: now you have a chance to go four for five.
Speaker 3: This is an easy one. Now, I'm kind of embarrassed
Speaker 3: by how easy this one is. Name the molar grad
Speaker 3: who started thirty four games at center at the University
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati and was named first team All Conference after
Speaker 3: his junior and senior years.
Speaker 18: Doug ros Ros coach Doug and uh, former head coach
Speaker 18: of Buller's right.
Speaker 15: All right, so you are my history teacher.
Speaker 3: You're two for two this year and your school you
Speaker 3: won knowing Ohio State and you won again Knowing Moeller. Congratulations.
Speaker 5: Perfect next week next year bringing.
Speaker 3: Your elementary school.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all Saints, I'll take Saints. All Saints. There you go. Sam.
Speaker 3: It's been awesome to have you on our shows this year.
Speaker 3: We greatly appreciated. Happy holidays to you and your wife
Speaker 3: and the rest of your family. And go Bengals, Go Bengals.
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