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Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, everybody. Welcome to the Bengals pep Rally Show

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Speaker 3: presented by Just Bear Chicken. We are live on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty and as is the case every Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: we are broadcasting from the On the Rhine Eatery. It's

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Speaker 3: the food hall above the downtown Kroger that's at the

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Speaker 3: intersection of Court and Walnut. Lots of inexpensive eateries here

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Speaker 3: at the On the Rhine Eatery, there's a full service

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Speaker 3: bar as well, plenty of seats. There's a parking garage attached.

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Speaker 3: It's a great spot for our Friday afternoon Bengals pep

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Speaker 3: Rally Show. I'm Dan Hord along with Dave Lapham. We

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Speaker 3: are here until six o'clock tonight and our special guest

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Speaker 3: in the final hour of the show for the second

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Speaker 3: week in a row, and we greatly appreciate it. Is

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Speaker 3: going to be the Cincinnati Kid Bengals legend, Sam.

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Speaker 4: Hubbard, and he is the jet at Bengals legend. There's

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Speaker 4: there's no question about it. Iconic plays in Sam Hubbard's

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Speaker 4: career with the Cincinnati Bengals. The fumble in the jungle

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Speaker 4: when he recovers the football two yards deep in the

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Speaker 4: end zone and goes one hundred and two yards to

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Speaker 4: pay dirt, serpentineing his way down the football field from

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Speaker 4: about midfield into the end zone. And then the two

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Speaker 4: point conversion that that was deflected and blocked and Sam

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Speaker 4: made a play on and that was huge. That football

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Speaker 4: game ended up being a big, big game, uh, deciding

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Speaker 4: play in that football game as well. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: for defensive player to have two plays like that in

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Speaker 4: franchise history is I mean rare, very unusual and couldn't

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Speaker 4: happen to a better guy. Sam Hubbard's good people.

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Speaker 3: We are six days from Christmas. I know there are

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Speaker 3: plenty of people listening that are like me. They've still

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Speaker 3: got lots of shopping to do. If you've got a

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Speaker 3: Bengals fan on your Christmas list. Here's what you do.

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Speaker 3: You go to the Bengals Pro shop at the stadium

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Speaker 3: between now and five o'clock. You pick up it can

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Speaker 3: be an inexpensive item, mini football, mini helmet, pennant, something

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Speaker 3: like that. You slept over here, inexpensive parking spot. You

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Speaker 3: come in when Sam Hubbard is here and during the

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Speaker 3: commercial breaks, he will willingly sign free autographs, no question,

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Speaker 3: no charge. So you can get that Bengals fan on

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Speaker 3: your Christmas list an awesome signed item from a Bengals legend,

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Speaker 3: and they will think you are the best friend and

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Speaker 5: No question.

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Speaker 4: You'd have a bigger place in heart than Santa claus Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean a personalized Sam Hubbard football. That would be huge,

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Speaker 4: That would be on everybody's mantle for sure.

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Speaker 3: So Sam will be here from five to six lap

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Speaker 3: and I are here from now until six as we

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Speaker 3: get you set for Sunday's game. The Bengals playing their

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Speaker 3: final road game of the year one o'clock on Sunday

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Speaker 3: against the Miami Dolphins. This might be the biggest temperature

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Speaker 3: in the history of mankind. Well, actually, now that I

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Speaker 3: Diego Chargers, they came to the Freezer Bowl having played

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Speaker 3: was fifty nine below, that's the record. But this will

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Speaker 4: And you know, guys that I talked to after the game,

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Speaker 4: You've got to continue to put forth the best effort

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Speaker 4: It was very, very cold, to say the least. I

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Speaker 4: I've never ever experienced that feeling and never want to again.

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Speaker 3: I know guys that we've talked to over the years

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Speaker 4: the NFL decided that you know, all the fans were there.

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Speaker 4: Every people had traveled a good distance to stay in

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Speaker 3: I never met the late great Phil Samp, the original

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Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Bengals. If I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 5: The right for that game. He did.

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Speaker 3: And we weren't allowed this past week. They insisted that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wonder, Uh, I guess, I guess

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the pipes at Riverfront Cares go ahead, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, it's been an eventful week, to say

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Speaker 3: the least for the Cincinnati Bengals. It started early in

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Speaker 3: consecutive AFC Championship game in twenty twenty two. Here's my

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Speaker 3: I think, in light of the fact that Joe's only

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Speaker 3: played in four games this season, Mike Brown wasn't likely

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Speaker 3: in that sense, I don't really think the contract is

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Speaker 3: a huge factor. Now, having said that, there are three

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more, you know, and I

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Speaker 4: if you absolutely crap your breeches and you prove that

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Speaker 4: you you know, why why did we even do this?

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Speaker 4: You should not be coaching a head coach in the

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Speaker 4: think that Mike Brown because his dad was a legendary

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a few things come into play. As

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Speaker 3: I think that means something to Mike. The other thing

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Speaker 3: And I think he believes that this team is not

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, I agree with you, Dan, if the

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Speaker 4: Golden be fifteen sixteen. In terms, I'm talking about points loud.

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Speaker 4: I just gotta keep my feet under That's what it's

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Speaker 4: that's been his problem. His problem is he's been hurt

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Speaker 4: so much. I mean, he's been injured more than he's

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Speaker 4: been healthy. He's been unavailable more than he's been available

435
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Speaker 4: to the team, and it's frustrating to everybody, him in particular.

436
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's got to be the most frustrated because

437
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Speaker 4: he's the one that's having to work through the treatment

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Speaker 4: for injuries, the rehabilitation for injuries, everything goes along with it,

439
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Speaker 4: but I mean the organization. He's he's got unbelieve physical traits.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a if you taped necessary traits to

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Speaker 4: be a defensive end successfully in the National Football League,

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Speaker 4: play that position successfully, he would become His body type

443
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Speaker 4: comes spitting.

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Speaker 5: Out of the ground.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing. But he just man and to

446
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Speaker 4: boot he's got. I mean, the coaches, his teammates, they

447
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Speaker 4: all talk about his football like you. He understands the game.

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Speaker 4: He understands the game at a very high level. You know,

449
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Speaker 4: he's not just some schmoe off the street that's you know,

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Speaker 4: let me go play some football. It's it's very, very frustrating,

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Speaker 4: you know. I feel badly for the kid because he

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Speaker 4: does have something to give the city of Cincinnati's something

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Speaker 4: to give his teammates and himself, and because he can

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Speaker 4: play football like very few can.

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Speaker 3: He's got at least three years left on that deal,

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Speaker 3: so hopefully we see the real Schamar Stewart next year.

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Speaker 3: Then there's the case of Chris Jenkins. Last year, the

458
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Speaker 3: second round draft pick broke his thumb just before the

459
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Speaker 3: start of the season. Played a big chunk of the

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Speaker 3: year with a giant club on his hand. That's hard

461
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Speaker 3: to do when you're playing defensive tackle. He's played reasonably

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Speaker 3: well this year. I think he's certainly a guy where

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Speaker 3: you would say the arrow is pointing up. Let's hear

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Speaker 3: from head coach Zach Taylor as he kind of sums

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Speaker 3: up the progress that Chris Jenkins made this year before

466
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Speaker 3: going on injured reserve today.

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Speaker 6: The part that I did see was just his football

468
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Speaker 6: IQ really starts to take shape with all the experience

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Speaker 6: he was scanning so understanding how the alian's playing, different

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Speaker 6: calls they're making. He was doing a good job communicating

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Speaker 6: with the D line. Thinks he was becoming aware of

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Speaker 6: that was giving everyone a better chance of succeeding. So

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Speaker 6: I think that element is critical that you see really

474
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Speaker 6: good D line in the league have that understanding. They

475
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Speaker 6: understand what the calls the line are making and what's

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Speaker 6: coming at him and how to defeat it. So I

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Speaker 6: think that's been a really good step in Chris's progression

478
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Speaker 6: that was starting to really show up.

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Speaker 5: Lapp.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of ceiling Chris Jenkins has.

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Speaker 3: I don't ever see him being a pro bowler. I

482
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Speaker 3: could definitely see him being a very valuable rotational defensive tackle,

483
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Speaker 3: no drop off you know from if he's not a

484
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Speaker 3: starter from the guy that he's you know, playing behind,

485
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Speaker 3: or maybe as a solid starter. That's who he feels

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Speaker 3: like to me two years into his career.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair, Dan, I mean, I think he's

488
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Speaker 4: a guy that could have seven eight year NFL career

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Speaker 4: on a rotational basis as a defensive tackle going in there.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny you talk about the football IQ. We

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Speaker 4: talked about Shamar Stewart with his Chris Jenkins with his

492
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Speaker 4: I can tell you that, like when Zach was talking

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Speaker 4: about how Jenkins will, you know, make calls based on

494
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Speaker 4: what he's hearing the offensive line communicating that's high level.

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Speaker 4: Mike Reid did that, He's drive me nuts.

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Speaker 5: Me he'd be he'd he'd you.

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Speaker 4: Know, we'd make a call, you know, I made the

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Speaker 4: call for the calls to the offensive line, I'd make

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Speaker 4: a call. He'd counter it. You know, It's like we're

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Speaker 4: playing chess, you know, and he'd make his move, his

501
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Speaker 4: his counter move, and then there's not a whole lot

502
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Speaker 4: of time, you know, to do anything else as the

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Speaker 4: play clocks winding down. So having a guy with that

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Speaker 4: kind of football intelligence as well as physical ability. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Mike Reid was like that dude was so damn quick.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was like, I know, how didn't close

507
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Speaker 4: my eyes? How did he get from there to there

508
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Speaker 4: so quickly? It's it's incredible how some of these guys

509
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Speaker 4: are so gifted physically. But yeah, Chris Jenkins, you know Zach,

510
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Speaker 4: Zach loves him because you know, there's so many guys

511
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Speaker 4: in this football team that have intelligence, uh, you know,

512
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Speaker 4: football intelligence plus raw intelligence, basic understanding, book smart intelligence, uh,

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Speaker 4: and good people. You know that that's the thing this

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Speaker 4: football team. You know, your heart kind of aches for

515
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Speaker 4: him a little bit because they are good people that care,

516
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Speaker 4: that care about their performance, care about wins and losses,

517
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Speaker 4: care about doing well for the community.

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Speaker 3: And we are going to hear from another person like

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Speaker 3: that when we come back. The Bengals did not score

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Speaker 3: in last week's lost to the Baltimore Ravens. We'll hear

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Speaker 3: from a member of the tight end core about that

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Speaker 3: when we continue. You're listening to the Bengals pep Rally

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Speaker 3: Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from the on

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Speaker 3: at Court and Walnut. We're here until six o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 3: Sam Hubber joined us at five on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Dan Ordon Dave Lapham back in the Bengals pep Rally

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Speaker 3: Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from the On

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Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. It's the food

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Speaker 3: hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. Mike

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Speaker 3: He is our engineer. Austin Elmore is back in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Sam Hubber is going to be our special guest from

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Speaker 3: five to six this afternoon. Well, Joe Burrow's been back

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Speaker 3: for three weeks. In his first game back, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: scored thirty two points on the road and beat Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: In his second game back, they scored thirty four points

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately lost at Buffalo, and then last week they

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Speaker 3: didn't score. It's the first time in Joe Burrow's career

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Speaker 3: as a starting quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals that the

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Speaker 3: Bengals got shut out. Now, the frigid temperatures probably had

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Speaker 3: something to do with that. Joe, by his own admission

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Speaker 3: did not play particularly well. Let's hear from tight end

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Speaker 3: Tanner Hudson. Tanner Hudson, who had three catches in the

545
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Speaker 3: game for Cincinnati, about Cincinnati's inability to score against the

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Speaker 3: Ravens last week.

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Speaker 9: And anytime you get shut out in a big game

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Speaker 9: like that, you definitely go back to the drawing board

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Speaker 9: a little bit kind of see what went what went wrong,

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Speaker 9: and where it went wrong. So yeah, I think I

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Speaker 9: think for all those guys, especially with the talent that

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Speaker 9: we have in the room, putting up zero points is

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Speaker 9: just it's unacceptable for us.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals were inside the thirty two yard

555
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: line five times and did not score, which is highly unusual.

556
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley dropped a touchdown pass on the very next play,

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00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow threw a pick six, Andrea Yosi vash dropped

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Speaker 3: about a forty yard pass. Jamar Chase, who rarely drops

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Speaker 3: passes at least since his very first training camp, had

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Speaker 3: a couple of drops last week. Joe Burrow made some

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Speaker 3: highly unusual poor decisions terms of protections and some of

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Speaker 3: the things that he did in that game. So it

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Speaker 3: was a team effort in failing to put any points

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Speaker 3: on the board.

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Speaker 4: Right when you get shut out. Nobody did well and

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Speaker 4: you did a good job of so many different components,

567
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Speaker 4: so many different players had issues, made big mistakes, didn't

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Speaker 4: execute the way that they needed to execute. And Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 4: as you mentioned, dan very forthright, very honest, and look

570
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Speaker 4: the way I played. If I played for any team

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Speaker 4: in the NFL last week, they wouldn't have won the

572
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Speaker 4: football game. All thirty two teams would have come up

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Speaker 4: on the short end of the stick. The way I played.

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Speaker 4: I have to be better. I have to do better.

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Speaker 4: I respect the hell out of him for saying that

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Speaker 4: and doing that. That's just the way he is. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he is the leader. The capital L capital E capital

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Speaker 4: A capitol, the D capital, the ee capitol R. He

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Speaker 4: is the leader, and he comports himself that way, he

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Speaker 4: acts that way. So I do think, though, you have

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Speaker 4: to dive into that tape, take a look at that

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Speaker 4: tape and see what you did right, if anything, and

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Speaker 4: there's not too much, that's not a long part of tape,

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Speaker 4: part of the tape, but to see what you did wrong,

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Speaker 4: why you did it wrong, what you need to do

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Speaker 4: to correct it and get it corrected and get it done,

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Speaker 4: and get it done quickly. You want to win these

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Speaker 4: last three football games. If you can win these last

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Speaker 4: three football games, you can salvage a little bit going

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Speaker 4: into an offseason. You want to go in on an

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Speaker 4: up note. If you win three in a row to

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Speaker 4: finish the season, you're going in on an up note.

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Speaker 3: Miami's defense is middle of the pack. They're thirty two

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Speaker 3: teams in the NFL. They're tied for sixteenth and points allowed,

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Speaker 3: so smack dab in the middle. Their defense had been

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Speaker 3: playing well of late. They gave up twenty eight on

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Speaker 3: Monday and a loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but prior

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Speaker 3: to that, in their previous four games, they had given

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Speaker 3: up thirteen, thirteen, seventeen to ten. So four straight games

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Speaker 3: on defense where they did not allow twenty points. Now,

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Speaker 3: three of those games were against bad teams, but one

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Speaker 3: was against Buffalo and they only gave up thirteen to

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Speaker 3: the Bills.

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Speaker 4: That's impressive, I mean very impressive. Yeah, Jared Allen and

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Speaker 4: Josh excuse me, Josh Allen. Yeah, Jared, that'd be good.

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Speaker 4: A defensivevent getting after.

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Speaker 3: The he was a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: He's definitely a Hall of Famer. He boy, he and

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Speaker 4: Anthony Moon has had some stirring battles, but I digress.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is legit. I mean, he's gonna be in

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame himself. So you hold that Buffalo

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Speaker 4: Bills offense thirteen points. Job well done, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor very very complimentary of Baltimore's defense, saying, you

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Speaker 4: know that he just likes the way they're put together.

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Speaker 4: He likes the way McDonald's has structured that defensive football team.

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Speaker 4: This minded me Dolphin team. The thing when I watch

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Speaker 4: them on tape, when I watch their games, their game film,

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Speaker 4: they all run to the ball. Their pursuit is outstanding. Man,

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Speaker 4: There'll be like three or four guys in position to

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Speaker 4: make a play. One does, but if he doesn't for

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Speaker 4: some reason, there's plenty of support there in case somebody

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Speaker 4: else has.

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Speaker 5: To make one.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take a time out. When we

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Speaker 3: come back, we're gonna shine the spotlight on an unsung

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Speaker 3: Bengals hero, a guy that you might not even know

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Speaker 3: his uniform number, but he's playing extremely well. This is

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Speaker 3: the Bengals pep Rally Show. We're live at the on

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Speaker 3: until six o'clock tonight. Sam Hubbard joins us from five

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Speaker 3: to six here on ESPN fifteen thirty, Dan and Dave

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Speaker 3: back on the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

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Speaker 3: Bear Chicken, live from the on the Rhine Eatery here

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Speaker 3: in downtown Cincinnati. We're getting he set for the Bengals

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Speaker 3: and Dolphins coming up one o'clock on Sunday in Miami.

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Speaker 3: So over the past few weeks, it seems to me

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Speaker 3: that every time the Bengals are in kickoff coverage and

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Speaker 3: the other team's kick returner runs it back, Bengals make

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Speaker 3: the tackle. I look down at my spotting chart as

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Speaker 3: they call it, with the uniform numbers and the names,

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Speaker 3: and I attribute the tackle to number forty three Joe

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Speaker 3: Giles Harris. He's been making a bunch of tackles in

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Speaker 3: special teams in recent weeks. So I looked it up

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Speaker 3: on Pro Football Focused to find out where they have

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Speaker 3: him graded among special teamers around the NFL. Would you

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Speaker 3: believe number eleven the eleventh best overall special teams player

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Speaker 3: in the NFL? I talked to Joe Giles Harris about

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Speaker 3: that earlier this.

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Speaker 10: Week, shout out you know, coach Daron, coach Ben, and

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Speaker 10: you know the guys in the unit. You know, I'm

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Speaker 10: just the guy who's been lucky enough to have a

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Speaker 10: couple tackles these past few games. But it comes down

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Speaker 10: to film study and just working hard. And you know,

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Speaker 10: I think for a lot of guys, you know, early

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Speaker 10: on you can kind of look at special teams as

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Speaker 10: that I don't want to play special teams. I want

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Speaker 10: to be a defensiveuy. I want to be offensive guy.

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Speaker 10: But it's just as important. It's it's just as fun

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Speaker 10: and you know, guy's carve out roles doing that. So

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Speaker 10: for me, like I told you, just being consistent and

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Speaker 10: doing what I have to do to stay in a

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Speaker 10: building and you know, getting the opportunity to play there

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Speaker 10: and it's been nothing but good to me and kind

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Speaker 10: of opened my eyes.

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Speaker 5: A little more special teams world.

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Speaker 10: And I just thank my film setting things for being

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Speaker 10: able to be in the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 3: You gotta love a guy like Joe Giles Harris. If

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Speaker 3: you look at the roster laugh, he's listed as somebody

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Speaker 3: with two years of NFL experience. And this comes down

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Speaker 3: to how the NFL counts accrude seasons. Right, He's in

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Speaker 3: his seventh NFL year. He's basically put five years in

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Speaker 3: on practice squads, grinding, trying to stay with a team,

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Speaker 3: doing whatever it takes. Now, guys on the practice squad,

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Speaker 3: it's a good living. You're making six figures. You know,

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Speaker 3: there are a lot worse jobs out there, but you're

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Speaker 3: a professional athlete. You want to get out there and play.

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Speaker 3: Most of his time in the NFL has been on

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Speaker 3: practice squads, but he's getting a chance to make a

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Speaker 3: big contribution on special teams and he's coming through.

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Speaker 5: He really is, it really is.

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Speaker 4: And as a former player, I got nothing respect, nothing

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Speaker 4: but respect for a guy like this, because you could

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Speaker 4: have gone on to your as Paul Brown would say, Look,

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Speaker 4: we're letting you go. You know, you almost made it.

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Speaker 4: You're the last couple of three get people we were considering,

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Speaker 4: but it just didn't card cut the mustard. So giving

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Speaker 4: you a chance to go to your life's work, he

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Speaker 4: tried to spend it. Possibly Jiles Harris is like, no,

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Speaker 4: this is my life's work for right now until you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe ten years down there, I'm gonna give this every

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Speaker 4: chance I possibly can, every single season to be a

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Speaker 4: contributor on the football team, and the quickest way to

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Speaker 4: contribute his special teams and with the Bengals, he's fortunate

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Speaker 4: enough to be hooked up with Darren Simmons, who understands

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Speaker 4: Giles's mindset, makeup, love for the game of football and

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Speaker 4: in general. Darren's like, I keep it simple. I mean especially,

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Speaker 4: it's not rocket science. You know, we're not split in

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Speaker 4: the atom here, guys. You know we're playing football. Run

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Speaker 4: down the field as fast as you can. Take on

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Speaker 4: an opponent, you know, separate, get off his block and

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Speaker 4: tackle people. Be a good tackler, get guys on the ground.

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Speaker 4: If you do that for Darren Simmons, you're gonna play

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Speaker 4: special teams for him for a long time. And Joe

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Speaker 4: Giles Harris is somebody that I think Darren Simmons has

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Speaker 4: an immense amount of respect for.

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Speaker 3: Joe Giles Harris is from the New York City area.

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Speaker 3: He went to Duke, where he was the three time

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Speaker 3: winner of the Vincent Ray Award, which goes to the

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Speaker 3: best linebacker at Duke. It is obviously named for former

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Speaker 3: Bengal Vinnie Ray. And it's been cool, cool for Joe

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Speaker 3: Giles Harris to get to know Vinnie. Now, yeah, Vinnie's

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Speaker 3: the team chaplain. Two guys from the New York City

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Speaker 3: area that went to Duke and have wound up in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing how football can be the conduit to relationships

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Speaker 4: that are lifelong. I mean, bonds that are made forever.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I love the game of football for so

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Speaker 4: many reasons. That's right there with every one of them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I see how guys really feel

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Speaker 4: about each other, how much they care about each other.

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Speaker 5: Will do anything. And I'm not I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm not saying I'm not, but I guess

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Speaker 4: I am. I'm going to compare it some to the military.

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Speaker 5: You know. It's it's you're going for all for one

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Speaker 5: common cause, all.

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Speaker 4: That you do anything, anything for the good of the

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Speaker 4: football team.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna take a time out. When we

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Speaker 3: come back, we will talk about the wisdom of Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow playing in the final three games of the season.

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Speaker 3: Now that the Bengals have officially been eliminated from playoff contention,

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Speaker 3: this is the Bengals pep rally show presented each week

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Speaker 3: by Just Bear Chicken. We are live at the On

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Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery, the food hall above the downtown Kroger

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Speaker 3: at Court and Walnut, here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome

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Speaker 3: back to the Bengals pep Rally Show Live from the

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Speaker 3: on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. It's the

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Speaker 3: food hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of great food options in here and they are inexpensive.

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Speaker 3: Come grab a Burger, Come grab the best dry rub

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Speaker 3: wings in Cincinnati. There's sushi, other Asian food, lots of options.

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Speaker 3: There's a full service bar as well. Lap and I

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Speaker 3: are here until six o'clock tonight, and our special guest

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Speaker 3: coming up in one hour and seven minutes will be

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. He'll be here from five

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Speaker 3: to six. Last week, with a loss to Baltimore, Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: was officially eliminated from playoff contention. So there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of people out there, and I understand it. It's

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Speaker 3: a fair argument that say you should shut down Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: don't run any risk in these final three games of

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Speaker 3: him getting injured again. Well, Joe is going to play.

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor said that at a news conference earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: Joe is hell bent on playing. He didn't work as

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Speaker 3: hard as he did to come back from that toe

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Speaker 3: injury just to sit out for the final three games

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Speaker 3: of the year. So again it's a fair debate, but

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is going to play. Let's hear from Joe

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Speaker 3: on what he hopes to get out of these final

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Speaker 3: three games of the year.

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Speaker 7: Anytime you get the opportunity to shove up the pads

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Speaker 7: and put the cleats on and go in the front

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Speaker 7: of the world and prove your worth, prove all the

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Speaker 7: hard work that you've put in, prove that you're improving.

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Speaker 5: Week to week.

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Speaker 7: That's what we're all trying to do. We're trying to

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Speaker 7: get better and better ourselves, and we have three.

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Speaker 11: Opportunities to do that.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I wanted to come back, obviously you

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Speaker 7: want to make the playoffs and you want to make

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Speaker 7: a run and all of that, but that was kind

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Speaker 7: of tertiary in my mind. I just wanted to get

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Speaker 7: back out there and play and put on a show

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Speaker 7: and try to play well and.

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Speaker 3: Produce tertiary excellent word excellent. Joe Burrow good vocabula. He

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Speaker 3: busted out the thesaurus while he was rehabbing his toe injury.

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Speaker 3: You know, as long as the doctors say that the

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Speaker 3: toe has completely healed, that he is in no risk

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Speaker 3: of further damage to that. Now that he's come back

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Speaker 3: and he's got this specially designed shoe, yeah, I defer

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Speaker 3: to him. Let him play. If you know it's important

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Speaker 3: to him to play, let him play.

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Speaker 4: Totally. One agree. Joe Burrow is a football player. Joel

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Speaker 4: Burrow loves to play football. Joe Burrow loves to throw

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Speaker 4: the football. Joe Burrow loves his teammates. Joe Burrow loves

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Speaker 4: his coaches. Joe Burrow loves Cincinnati. Joe Burrow wants to

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Speaker 4: be part of it. He wants to be.

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Speaker 5: Part of the whole, the whole deal.

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Speaker 4: You have a guy like that that wants to play,

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Speaker 4: and as talented as he is, he let him play,

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Speaker 4: and if another injury happens, God forbid, knock on wood.

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Speaker 4: You never, you never, you never take anything for granted

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Speaker 4: in that regard. But I mean, that's that's football, that's

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Speaker 4: a byproduct of football. Unfortunately, I think he's gonna play

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Speaker 4: really well. I think He's gonna put up significant numbers,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he loves the challenge. He loves to

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Speaker 4: be tested. He wants to show what he can do

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Speaker 4: against the best that there is in the world, and

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Speaker 4: that's the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: I just hurt my knuckles pounding on that wooden chair,

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Speaker 3: so I I think I might have broken something. I

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Speaker 3: agree with you. I think Joe Burrow is gonna play

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Speaker 3: great this week. I mean, when he has a subpar game,

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Speaker 3: and he called last week's game maybe the worst of

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Speaker 3: his career. I'm not sure that I necessarily agree with that,

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Speaker 3: but when he has a subpar game, he typically comes

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Speaker 3: back and lights up the next opponent. And while I

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Speaker 3: do think the Dolphins have an above average defense, I

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Speaker 3: would expect Joe to play great, not good great on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Totally agree. You know.

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Speaker 4: I think I think he'll probably have, you know, one

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Speaker 4: of those games where it's like when people are driving

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Speaker 4: home after the football game, it'll be like, can you

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Speaker 4: believe that throw that Joe Burrow made, you know, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the third quarter to Jamar Chase, I.

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Speaker 5: Can't believe that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you throw that ball one hundred times

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Speaker 4: one time, it may it may be like that, and

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Speaker 4: that's what happened, and he's capable of those kinds of things.

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Speaker 5: He's he's a special talent, very unique.

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Speaker 3: This week's opponent is the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins were

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Speaker 3: on a roll. They had a four game winning streak

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Speaker 3: prior to losing on Monday Night to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: They didn't play particularly well in that game, and as

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Speaker 3: a result, they have benched their quarterback. He makes fifty

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Speaker 3: three million dollars a year two a Tongo vy loa.

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Speaker 3: He has been sent to the bench. Rookie quinn ew Ers,

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Speaker 3: the former Ohio State Buckeye, at least briefly at the

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Speaker 3: start of his college career, went on to have great

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Speaker 3: success with the Texas Longhorns. He will make his first

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Speaker 3: NFL start on Sunday against Cincinnati. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 3: and much more where the Dolphins are concerned with the

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Speaker 3: guy who covers the team for ESPN when we come back.

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Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

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Speaker 3: baired Chicken, live from the on the Rhine Eatery here

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Speaker 3: in downtown Cincinnati on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: By Just baired Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Dan Howden Dave Lapham with you this afternoon live from

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Speaker 3: the on the Ryan Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati, the

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Speaker 3: food hall above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut.

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Speaker 3: We're here until six o'clock tonight. Sam Hubbard joins us

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Speaker 3: from five to six as we get you ready for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals and Dolphins coming up on Sunday at one

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the afternoon. The Dolphins come into the game

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Speaker 3: with six wins, coming off a loss to the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers on Monday night in Pittsburgh, and it is time

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Speaker 3: for our no the faux segment where we get the

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Speaker 3: inside scoop on the opponent. And here to fill us

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Speaker 3: in on the Miami Dolphins is Marcel Luis Jacques, who

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Speaker 3: covers the team for ESPN. Marcel, we appreciate you joining

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Speaker 3: us on the show today. I thought you did an

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Speaker 3: awesome job on Sports Center talking about to a tongueo

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Speaker 3: by Loa who has gone to the bench this week

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Speaker 3: for the Dolphins. Let's start with That's there the sense

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00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: that this might be coming or was it kind of

862
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: a shock or after Monday's lost to Pittsburgh.

863
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 12: I think it should be a shock or I guess

864
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 12: let's put it this way. It wasn't surprising, but there's

865
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 12: always a little bit of shock value when you are

866
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 12: benching your starting quarterback, Like that's that's the natural reaction.

867
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 12: But I think the playoffs were no longer in the picture.

868
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 12: I mean even the trap talking in the in the

869
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 12: tunnels over there after the game, like okay, so we're

870
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 12: gonna see Queenewers now right, Like it makes the most sense.

871
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 12: Don't see what you got with the rookie. There's no

872
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 12: material left to play for. I mentioned it a couple

873
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 12: of times in my writing, and you know, a couple

874
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 12: of videos after the game as well, So like it

875
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 12: wasn't a surprise per se, but it's still it's a

876
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 12: little like a whoa anytime you see a two hundred

877
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 12: and twelve point one million dollar quarterback.

878
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's crazy, that's incredible. Oh boy, I wish

879
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: those numbers were being paid out in the seventies and eighties.

880
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: Man. So let's talk about Quinn.

881
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: You are the guy who is going to be quarterbacking

882
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins when they come to Cincinnati to play

883
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: the Bengals. What what can you tell us about him?

884
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: What makes him chick? What are his strengths?

885
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 12: So Quinn is very I don't want to say nonchalant

886
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 12: because that almost sounds like derogatory, but like this guy

887
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 12: who's not going to get too high and not going

888
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 12: to get too very even keeled demeanor, confident, hard worker. Teammates,

889
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 12: they say he's a playmaker at practice, he's a baller

890
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 12: at practice. He's missing off the linebackers, making players, running

891
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 12: the scout team. I don't know that. I don't think

892
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 12: it's reasonable to say he's about to take the field

893
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 12: and the deafinis, you know, Roberty on their hands, like,

894
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 12: I don't know if he's going to come out here

895
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 12: in the even Joe Burrow like, I think they're just

896
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 12: looking for something to build on as they move forward

897
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 12: into a potentially tumultuous offseason. Like is there is there

898
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 12: a guy you can usually tell? Is this a guy

899
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 12: who's got a future in the league or did Does

900
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 12: he look like a seventh round dart room?

901
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.

902
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 12: Wins losses immateial at this point. I think they're just

903
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 12: looking for the possibility of something being there.

904
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: Marcel Louis Jacques covers the Dolphins for ESPN. I imagine

905
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: one thing that Quinn Ewers will spend a lot of

906
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: his day doing on Sunday is handing the ball off,

907
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: because that's the strength of the Dolphins offense. Devon a

908
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: Chan is excellent. He's already rushed for more than a

909
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: thousand yards this year. The Dolphins recently had a four

910
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: game winning streak where they ran for one hundred and

911
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: fifty plus in every game, and the Bengals are last

912
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: in the NFL at stopping the run? Is that the

913
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: key Sunday? How well that Miami running attack firs against Cincinnati?

914
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 12: Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, especially after a kount of a disappointing

915
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 12: output against Pittsburgh. But the one thing that I don't

916
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 12: know if fantasy players everybody's still in, I don't know

917
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 12: that they're going to love hearing this. But if you

918
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 12: look at it not only just logically, but with what

919
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 12: they're also doing at the quarterback position and like going

920
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 12: to the young guys, and it's just kind of using

921
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 12: the next three games as a developmental period. I wouldn't

922
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 12: be surprised to see more of a split between Hn

923
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 12: and Jalen Wright, who had you know, one hundred and

924
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 12: ten yards on twenty four carriers a couple of weeks

925
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 12: ago when Hn was hurt. So I wouldn't be surprised

926
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 12: to see a mix of Jalen Wright, a mix in

927
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 12: of Olie Gordon as well. But yeah, I don't I

928
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 12: don't think it would be super responsible of Mike and

929
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 12: of Frank Smith to send Twin out there and telling

930
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 12: him right, throw the ball forty five times right now.

931
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 12: I think they just want to see him navigate the offense.

932
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 12: Of course, they're going to put him in a couple

933
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 12: of situations where it's one of those let's see how

934
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 12: to kive Reox, But I don't think the game plan

935
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 12: is going to necessarily revolve around when you weres in.

936
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 12: Frank Smith said, when's grasp of this offensive playbook is

937
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 12: advance for his his experience in league. It's so advanced

938
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 12: that they don't really plan on changing much about their

939
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 12: offensive book.

940
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 4: And every team that doesn't make the playoffs is disappointed

941
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: that they season didn't go as planned, and you know,

942
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: the fan base starts to get a little restless and

943
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 4: they start calling for the head coach's head. How vulnerable

944
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: is Mike McDaniel. Do you think he's on the chopping block?

945
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 12: I do not know, And I'd be kind of willing

946
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 12: to put my state, my name on it here. Yeah,

947
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 12: it's a gut feeling at this point, but like if

948
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 12: the wins really mattered for his job security right now,

949
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 12: Quinn yours is not the best chance to win. And

950
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 12: I know he's been saying that. He said that publicly

951
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 12: a few times. Like that, I think is what you

952
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 12: have to say, because it doesn't sound good when you

953
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 12: gotta have pissed off fan base and you're over here saying, yeah,

954
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 12: we're going to just see what the young guys got

955
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 12: the rest of the season. We're gonna punt, especially to

956
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 12: an ownership that still wants the CEL tickets for the

957
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 12: next couple of weeks. That's not fun to hear. But

958
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 12: in this is one of those scenarios where it's like

959
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 12: watch what I what I do and what I say,

960
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 12: and if it was really about winning games, Jack Wilson

961
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 12: is probably the quarterback if you're insistent on benching tour.

962
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 12: So I think this is a move that you make

963
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 12: when you are pretty sure you are still going to

964
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 12: have your job, or if you've gotten an out right

965
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 12: assurance that you are going to keep your job for.

966
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 5: The next season.

967
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 12: But I don't think that I don't think that Mike

968
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 12: is in danger as at this point. Obviously, you know,

969
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 12: something dramatic can happen, something drastic could happen over the

970
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 12: next couple months or so. But when the ball rolls

971
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 12: out in September twenty twenty six, I expect McDaniels the sideline.

972
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 3: It's a really good point. We're visiting with Marcel Louis Jacques,

973
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: who covers the Dolphins for ESPN. A couple more questions.

974
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about the defense for the season.

975
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: Miami is smack dab in the middle of the NFL

976
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: and points, but it's been good better over the last

977
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: five games. Are giving up sixteen a game over the

978
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: last five. They shut down Buffalo in one of those games.

979
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: What are the strengths of the Dolphins defense.

980
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 12: I think this secondary, which ironically you entered the season

981
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 12: as a question mark. I think it's solidified into a

982
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 12: pretty good, pretty good unit. Obviously Minker is not going

983
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 12: to play, so that's going to take a hit there.

984
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 12: But Dante Trader, fifth Brown rookie out of Maryland, it's

985
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 12: a guy that they're excited about, so he's going to

986
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 12: get some more run there on Sunday. Russell Douglas is

987
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 12: playing at a high level. Jack Jones is playing at

988
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 12: a high level. I think that that is something that

989
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 12: I'm sure it surprises a lot of Dolphins stands, and

990
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 12: it surprised the media to the level they're playing. I

991
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 12: considered where they were in June July. But the heart

992
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 12: of this defense is in the sly back record, Tyrol

993
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 12: Dobson and then of course Jordan Brooks, who leaves the

994
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 12: NFL and tackles. Brooks has been there most consistent player

995
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 12: on either side of the ball. Offseason. It does not

996
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 12: have an off game, rarely makes a mistake. He to

997
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 12: him get hit with tawn and penalty at the end

998
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 12: of or towards the end of the Steelers game, that's

999
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 12: not super indicative of his character. That was kind of

1000
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 12: a surprise to see. But this is a this is

1001
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 12: a guy who I would expect, I'd expect an extension

1002
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 12: done for him this offseason. But he's really the heart

1003
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 12: and soul of that defense.

1004
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 4: Let me ask you about the Dolphins offense the same

1005
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: way then, Marcel. It's like, Okay, what do they do

1006
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: best offensively? Where's where's their offensive strength? Who's playing at

1007
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: a high level? For offensive coordinator Frank Smith right now?

1008
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1009
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 12: Will We talked about it before, right Devon h Han

1010
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 12: is really the team MVP on offense because without him,

1011
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 12: I mean I know the game the one game that

1012
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 12: we did see without him with when Jayden Wright went on,

1013
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 12: but that was against a New York Jets defense that

1014
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 12: quick before it left its house in the morning, So

1015
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 12: I would take that one with the great and assault.

1016
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 12: But he is he is crucial in the run game, obviously,

1017
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 12: but also in the passing game. Miami. You know, considering

1018
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 12: what Miami is and where this team was a couple

1019
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 12: of years ago, flying up and down the field leading

1020
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 12: the league in points and offense, you don't have a

1021
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 12: whole lot of playmakers and like in terms of pass

1022
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 12: catchers right now, not people who are really going to

1023
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 12: scare an opposing defense. So Hn, he's found, he's found

1024
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 12: a living stretching defense, is stressing defenses out coming out

1025
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 12: of the backfield. Absolutely, it's got to be devout.

1026
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 5: Hn.

1027
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 12: And then and that you know he maybe wouldn't expect

1028
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 12: is Aaron Brewer the center. I think he's been the

1029
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 12: best center in the NFL. Although that is a metric

1030
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 12: that I'm not willing to argue with anybody, So let's

1031
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 12: just take that real quick. It is. I don't watch

1032
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 12: a whole lot of center play, but I know that

1033
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 12: a lot of centers don't look like that. The way

1034
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 12: they use him as a blocker, as a lead blocker,

1035
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 12: as a puller, it's special. It's something to keep an

1036
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 12: eye on if you're if you're looking for teams to

1037
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 12: watch within Sunday's game.

1038
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, Dave Lapham is a former offense watching and so

1039
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: he'll be watching it. He sounds kind of Jason Kelsey

1040
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: like based on that description.

1041
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's similar to that. Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

1042
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 12: I think if he doesn't make the Pro Bowl, it's

1043
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 12: kind of a it's a disgrace. I think he has

1044
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 12: been phenomenal this season. Wow, especially, you know, considering when

1045
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 12: he got here he was labeling injury prone, undersized, underwhelming,

1046
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 12: and what he's done under mc McDaniel has really been

1047
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 12: special for the past couple of years.

1048
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 3: Marcel, we know Fridays are busy in your world. We

1049
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: really appreciate you covering out some time for us today.

1050
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 12: Thank you, of course, thanks for having me.

1051
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: Thanks very much.

1052
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: All right, that is Marcel Luis Jah who covers the

1053
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: Dolphins for ESPN. We'll take a time out when we

1054
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Speaker 3: relative when you hand over that autographed Sam Hubbard item.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: I mean, all of a sudden, with Sam's autograph on it,

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00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: that little inexpensive item became priceless.

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 10: You know.

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00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: It's like now it's like your son, your grandson will

1078
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: be man in high cotton with his buddies. It's like,

1079
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: what what'd you get?

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00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: How'd you get that?

1081
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 13: So?

1082
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, be smart, get over here and give yourself one

1083
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: before they're gone.

1084
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 3: All right again, Sam will be here five to six.

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00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 3: Hope to see you here at the on the Rhine Eatery.

1086
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: Time now for this week's fun Fact segment, where you

1087
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: get to know the person under the pads. It is

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00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: presented each week by Skyline Chili. Time for some fun

1089
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: facts with running back Taje Brooks from Manor, Texas, not

1090
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: far from the capital city of Austin. Describe growing up

1091
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: in Manor and some of the things you enjoyed doing

1092
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: when you were young.

1093
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 14: Oh, man, the thing I did the most was just

1094
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 14: play football, went to school, and then you don't hung

1095
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 14: out with friends. That was really just the most part.

1096
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 14: And you know, I was kind of kind of a

1097
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 14: country boy at That's home too, you know, it's Mayner.

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 14: Back back in high school, it was a it was

1099
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 14: a kind of a little suburb. Now it's a lot

1100
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 14: of play, a lot of things growing out there, so

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 14: but it was more country when I was out there,

1102
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 14: when I was, uh growing up and stuff. So it

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00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 14: was fun.

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00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: I read somewhere that you rode horses growing up?

1105
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 5: Was that the case?

1106
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: And it's it's still the case.

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00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 14: It's it's a little bit kind of the case now,

1108
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 14: but uh I try to get uh not too much,

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 14: but uh, yeah, I grew up. I rode a little

1110
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 14: bit of horses. Uh it was just when I was little.

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00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 14: My aunt, uh shout out to her. She kind of,

1112
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 14: you know, just instilled in me just uh just to

1113
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 14: do it for fun. And it's been it's been great

1114
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 14: ever since. But uh it's crazy. It's just uh, I

1115
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 14: kind of had like a little reaction to like one

1116
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 14: of like the horse little blanket sheets.

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I always I loved animals.

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 14: I uh, when I was little, I wanted to be

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 14: like a vi visit, I guess a vegetarian, not a vegetarian,

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00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 14: uh veninarian, excuse me. And it was just, uh, I

1121
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 14: love watching like the incredible Doctor Poe shows and things

1122
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 14: like that, so I just won't see like just the

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00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 14: way of living over horse and things like that.

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00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: But nah, it was That's just something uh that I

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00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: cherished the most when I was growing.

1126
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Speaker 3: Up, tysh you had an exceptional high school football career,

1127
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: running for more than four thousand yards. Way did it

1128
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: start to become clear that the other kids either couldn't

1129
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: catch you or tackle.

1130
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Speaker 1: You really, I want to say a little league.

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 14: And then going into my ninth grade year, that was

1132
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 14: my first year I was a freshman on varsity ninth

1133
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 14: grade and you really don't see that happening in a

1134
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 14: lot of places, and that kind of just changed my

1135
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 14: trajectory of football. And I'm very thanking for the coach

1136
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 14: that gave me the opportunity.

1137
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: Mainneris and far from the University of Texas. I've read

1138
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: that the Longhorns did not recruit you. Was that the case,

1139
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: and if so, was it disappointing.

1140
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 14: It wasn't disappointing, But they recruited me a little bit.

1141
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 14: They kind of wanted me. It was back in twenty Yeah,

1142
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 14: back in twenty twenty when it's kind of that covid

1143
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 14: era and they had a guy, which is he's in

1144
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 14: the league actually right now, so kudos and him.

1145
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: And things like that.

1146
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 14: But they had a guy, and I feel like text

1147
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 14: Tech was the best for me. Coach Matt Wells. I

1148
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 14: got recruited by him and and he changed my life forever.

1149
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 14: And then just the inductive of just Joey MacGuire, just

1150
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 14: the things that he built there.

1151
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: It has been great. So uh, I'm glad. I'm gonna

1152
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: take a stake Raider.

1153
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: You initially committed to Tulsa largely because of an assistant

1154
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: coach named Justin Hill, who is your running backs coach

1155
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: now with the Cincinnati Bengals. Described that relationship going back

1156
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: to the tenth grade.

1157
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: It was a it was a great relationship. It's still

1158
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: great to this day.

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 14: You know, the Jay Hill, he does a great job

1160
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 14: with just the cult of aspect and then just uh,

1161
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 14: just being a teacher, a great guy you can learn from.

1162
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 14: And then just off the field a great a great

1163
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 14: family man, a great uh somebody you want to be

1164
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 14: like when you want to grow up and things like that.

1165
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 14: But the relationship is has been there. I want to

1166
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 14: say my freshman year I committed to him and in

1167
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 14: that program and it was great. And then he got

1168
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 14: the job here, and I knew, I knew I was

1169
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 14: kind of gonna be back, not as a Cincinnati ban

1170
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 14: I thought I know I was gonna be back in

1171
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 14: the ropes because I texted him one year I guess,

1172
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 14: I guess, congrats, I'm going to the super Bowl and

1173
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 14: he takes me back. He's like, thank you, man. So

1174
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 14: it was just a good good seeing out of eye.

1175
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 14: And then shoot, I got blessed and I got jobbted here.

1176
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 14: So it all came for full a full circle.

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Speaker 1: So it's cool for.

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Speaker 3: Visiting with TODJ. Brooks. You ultimately chose to play at

1179
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 3: Texas Tech. As you mentioned, you're gonna be in their

1180
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame someday you're their all time leading rusher.

1181
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: What did you enjoy most about your five years there.

1182
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Man, It wasn't breaking the records or anything.

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 14: It was just I want to say, my teammates, the

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 14: guys that I met there, the guys that I came

1185
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Speaker 14: in with, we built those are my brothers for life.

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Speaker 14: And that was probably like one of the biggest things

1187
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 14: that I missed about college and things like that. But

1188
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 14: besides the accolades that I broken things, but that's probably

1189
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Speaker 14: the most important ones.

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Speaker 3: In addition to your on the field success, you excelled

1191
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: in the classroom. You were nominated for the Campbell Award

1192
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: last year, which is known as the Academic Heisband Trophy.

1193
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: Did your folks put a big emphasis on the classroom?

1194
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: For sure?

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Speaker 14: My mom and my dad, they pushed me academically as

1196
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 14: well as on the field. You want to be the

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 14: best person in the brain before you get outside and

1198
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Speaker 14: get on the field, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's just it's been instilled me at a young age.

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Speaker 14: My Grandma's also instilled in me just you gotta you

1201
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 14: gotta be a student before you be an athlete. So

1202
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 14: just learning different ways just to get better with your brain.

1203
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 14: That's just something I always honored as and you know,

1204
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 14: just want to just expand my knowledge more.

1205
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: The Bengals selected you in the sixth round of this

1206
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: year's draft. Describe that day leading up to getting the

1207
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: phone call from Zach Taylor.

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01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 14: First and foremost, it was just it was a blessing.

1209
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 14: I can't think enough to the man above. The Bengels

1210
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 14: got a great guy, a great a great person that's

1211
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 14: gonna come in and impact the way that he can

1212
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Speaker 14: if any opportunity that he gets.

1213
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: But nah, that that day was amazing.

1214
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 14: I talked to Zach, I talked to Jay Hill, and

1215
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 14: then shoot, after that, it was it was ready to work.

1216
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 15: You know.

1217
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 14: They Nothing wasn't handed, nothing wasn't given. It was just

1218
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 14: come in, learn and just be uh. Whenever opportunity for

1219
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 14: this herself, be ready for that opportunity.

1220
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Speaker 1: And I can't wait.

1221
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: This was a crazy deep draft for running backs. I'm

1222
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: thinking in a normal year you would have gone several

1223
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: rounds earlier. How did that affect you?

1224
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: I really didn't. Uh, it really didn't affect me. I

1225
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: have I have a great team, great agent within that

1226
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: well and things like that. So they kept me. Uh,

1227
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: he kept me, truly honest.

1228
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Speaker 14: He's like, man, I feel like you're one of the

1229
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 14: top backs in this class and you know, your film

1230
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 14: proves it. You can pass, take and catch the ball

1231
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 14: great out the backfield and you know, run the ball.

1232
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 14: That's nothing. But I don't know why he can't question

1233
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 14: question you about that. So man, that's just uh, it

1234
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 14: was deep.

1235
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like I separated myself just off pass

1236
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: protection and then catching.

1237
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: The ball where we at the backfield were the guys

1238
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: draft before you, where you said yourself, Man, that guy

1239
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: is good, but I know I'm better than he.

1240
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 14: Is for sure, you know, just the competitor in me

1241
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 14: just saying that. And then just you know, on draft

1242
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 14: day I kind of wrote and thought about every guy

1243
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 14: that went before me, so uh, not saying when we

1244
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 14: played him, I I just wanna, you know, be the

1245
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 14: whenever I get my opportunity to be the best back

1246
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 14: on the field and things like that.

1247
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: So I just can't wait for that to happen.

1248
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: All right. Some wild card topics now for Bengals running

1249
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: back Taj Brooks. Who is your all time favorite athlete

1250
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: in any sport?

1251
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: And why I gotta be one or just one?

1252
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: You can pick several if you'd like.

1253
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: All Right, man, it's tough. I'm gonna go Kobe just

1254
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: because the Mama mentality.

1255
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 14: I'm gonna go Ray Lewis, just because a guy that's

1256
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 14: gonna come to work each and every day and giving

1257
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 14: his all and someone that's that's gonna embrace you and

1258
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 14: you know, makes you want to do things that you

1259
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 14: wanna that you don't want to do, but you're doing.

1260
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 14: And then my last one is probably Barry Sanders, just

1261
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 14: a guy that's just very consistent as being playing a

1262
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 14: running back, being at the plane at the highest.

1263
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: Level and doing the great things that he did in

1264
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: the NFL.

1265
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 14: Man, it's just you always want to put yourself in

1266
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 14: that role and just want to see yourself doing those

1267
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 14: great things that he did.

1268
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: So Barry Sanders was before your time. Have you watched

1269
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: a lot of the clips on YouTube?

1270
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

1271
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 16: For sure?

1272
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: I watch him.

1273
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 14: Then you know the Madden you know, I play Madden

1274
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 14: a lot, so I'm always using him, Watter Payton, you know,

1275
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 14: just Marshall falk Man.

1276
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: You can go a list goes down, man.

1277
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 14: But I kind of watch those guys on YouTube and

1278
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 14: just you know, going what they did in the NFL

1279
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 14: and just try to see how my game can imprint

1280
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 14: and how I can take things from their game.

1281
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: So we're visiting the t Brooks For the last three years,

1282
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: you put on a free football clinic back home for kids.

1283
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: More than three hundred attended this past year.

1284
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 5: Why do you do that?

1285
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 14: I do it just it's a blessing first and foremost

1286
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 14: for the kids, and you know, just so it's been free.

1287
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 14: It's something that I love, you know, giving back to

1288
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 14: my community, giving back to where I came from. And

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Speaker 14: you know, you always want to get back to your

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Speaker 14: hometown because they're going to support you no matter what,

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Speaker 14: no matter if you're an NFL, no matter if you're

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Speaker 14: you know, a college coach to day, no matter whatever

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Speaker 14: you're doing, they're going to always support you. And I

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Speaker 14: always want to give my support back to to my

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Speaker 14: high schools and things like that.

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Speaker 3: We know you're a good running back, we know you're

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Speaker 3: a good student. You rode horses as a kid. But

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Speaker 3: where do you allow to at?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm not a good singer. I will

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Speaker 1: not I sing.

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Speaker 14: I sing to myself sometimes, but it's just myself and

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Speaker 14: probably my girlfriend. But besides that, I'm not a.

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Speaker 1: Great singer at all. That's probably the one.

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Speaker 5: What do you like to splur?

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Speaker 1: John Man?

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Speaker 14: I don't know because I haven't. Man, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 14: a big I'm not a big spender. It's just it

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Speaker 14: depends like I kind of left my big spending probably

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Speaker 14: in my college days. But now it's just more of

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Speaker 14: just I don't know, man's I don't really splurs a lot.

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Speaker 14: Second contract, probably buy a home back home, you know,

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Speaker 14: by a home, get something set up off of the

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Speaker 14: off season, and you know, get something going with the

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Speaker 14: off season, things like that.

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Speaker 1: So just buy a home and things like that.

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Speaker 3: All right, Final fun fact for Taj Brooks. This one's

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Speaker 3: a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history,

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Speaker 3: living or deceased, who would that person be?

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Speaker 1: I want to say one is Nipsey Hustle.

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Speaker 14: Nipsey Hustle, excuse me, just the way how powerful he

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Speaker 14: is with his voice and the way he carried on

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Speaker 14: his life and his legacy. And then two, probably my

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Speaker 14: brother trolley Man, just to talk to him, see how

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Speaker 14: he's doing up there. He passed away in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 14: during a gun violence accident, So just meet him and

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Speaker 14: just chop it up with him.

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Speaker 1: That would probably be my two. Like most coming back

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Speaker 1: and just chopping it up, So that probably be my

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Speaker 1: things right there.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 5: Best of let the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, thank you TOAs Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Easy guy to root for. A six round draft pick

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Speaker 3: this year out of Texas Tech. Haven't seen much of

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Speaker 3: him during the regular season. He's only got nine carries

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Speaker 3: this year, but that's a good news in a sense

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Speaker 3: because it means Chase Brown has stayed healthy. And one

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Speaker 3: thing I would like to see before the end of

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Speaker 3: this year is for Chase Brown to average seventy three

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Speaker 3: yards in the final three games of the year and

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Speaker 3: get to one thousand.

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Speaker 4: Love to see Chase Brown get a thousand yards as well.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of the hardest working players on

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Speaker 4: the football team. I mean he is dedicated to his craft,

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Speaker 4: to his profession, and they have a great room in

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Speaker 4: that running back room.

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Speaker 5: TODJ.

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Speaker 4: Brooks another you know, phenomenal kid as well as football player,

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Speaker 4: and Chase Brown, he just he might be as well

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Speaker 4: liked as anybody on the football team. I mean that

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Speaker 4: all he does is come to work every day, keep

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Speaker 4: his nose clean, you know, put it to the grindstone.

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Speaker 4: He is a grinder in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 4: And the kid is a talented best I mean he's

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Speaker 4: got a low center gravity dan. He runs with a

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Speaker 4: good body, lean, puts the football away, doesn't put it

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Speaker 4: on the ground. He secures the pig. He hits the

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Speaker 4: weight room hard. I mean his squads are phenomenally strong, hamstrings, calves.

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Speaker 4: He's the real deal. He's a great football player. I'd

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Speaker 4: love to see him get rewarded with a thousand yard season.

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Speaker 3: And again he needs to average seventy three a game

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Speaker 3: over the final three to reach one thousand yards this year.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a time out. When we come back, we

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Speaker 3: will talk about the biggest challenge the Bengals defense will face.

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Speaker 3: This Sunday at one o'clock in Miami, you're listening to

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Speaker 3: the Bengals Pep Rallley Show were presented by Just Bear

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Speaker 3: Chicken live from the on the Rhine Eatery, the foodhull

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Speaker 3: above the downtown Kroger here on Courton Walnut. Come on

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Speaker 3: and join us. Have some great dry rub wings, or

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Speaker 3: a burger or some sushi. Have a frosty beer. There's

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Speaker 3: a full service bar to our left. It's a great

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Speaker 3: spot and we're here until six o'clock tonight on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Lapping the ball Man back on the Bengals

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Speaker 3: pep Rawley Show presented by Just Bear Chicken or live

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Speaker 3: at the on the Ryan Eatery Here in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: It's the Foodhull above the downtown Kroger at Corton Walnutt.

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Speaker 3: Come out and join us. We're here until six o'clock

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Speaker 3: tonight talking Bengals football. Sam Hubbard's coming to join us

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Speaker 3: from five to six. The Bengals are heading to Miami

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Speaker 3: to face the Dolphins this week. Miami in recent years

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Speaker 3: has been one of the better offensive teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and even though they have benched to a Tongo vy

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Speaker 3: loa going into the game this week, the key for

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Speaker 3: Miami is the running game. That's what they do best.

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Speaker 3: In recent weeks, they had a stretch of four straight

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Speaker 3: games of one hundred and fifty plus on the ground,

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Speaker 3: including a game against the Jets where they ran for

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Speaker 3: more than two twenty and one thing you're going to

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Speaker 3: notice when Miami has the ball is that before virtually

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Speaker 3: every play, somebody's going to be going in motion, often

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Speaker 3: sprinting in motion. Then they'll stop go back in the

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Speaker 3: original direction. They use motion as much as any team

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, And here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: talking about why that presents problems for the Bengals this week.

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Speaker 6: If it creates any hesitation from you on the second level,

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Speaker 6: then that's the increase they need with the speed to

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Speaker 6: have a running back to get explosives. And so it's

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Speaker 6: all a lot of it's I can do window dressing,

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Speaker 6: creating leverage. They'll come back to it over and over again.

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Speaker 6: They'll have the compliments that you now start to overplay it,

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Speaker 6: and they'll come back and hit you with something different.

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Speaker 6: They was on the same frame. Miami. They do a

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Speaker 6: really good job with the really creative scheme of the

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Speaker 6: run game, and they've always had really explosive running backs

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Speaker 6: that can really hit it at that moment when you've

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Speaker 6: gone an extra step too far, and now they got

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Speaker 6: a chance for an explosive play.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good description of what Miami's looking for this week.

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Speaker 3: Number one running back de von A Chan ran a

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Speaker 3: four three two forty at the combine. He was the

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Speaker 3: fastest running back in his class, and that class included

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, who ran a four to three six. So

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Speaker 3: a chen can fly. He was an All American in

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Speaker 3: track and it is being a great football player. At

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Speaker 3: Texas A and M. Their number two running back Jalen

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Speaker 3: Wright out of Tennessee, ran a four to three eight.

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Speaker 3: So you've got two running backs that run four three forties.

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Speaker 3: And again, well all that motion and movement, if you

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Speaker 3: take a step, a half step in the wrong direction

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Speaker 3: or hesitate just enough, he's off to the races right on.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it's all. It's all built on

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Speaker 4: false steps. You know, if you if you do, if

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Speaker 4: you overstep by one step, you're out of position because

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: they they've put their foot in the ground and they

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 4: cut and they because of the sub four to four speed,

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Speaker 4: low four threes, they're gonna make you pay. So it

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Speaker 4: is it's a very very difficult offense to uh to stop,

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Speaker 4: not because it's overly sophisticated. They do a ton of things.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty simple they do. They try to out leverage you.

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01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: They try to get you to overrun by a step

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Speaker 4: and take advantage of those kind of mistakes. And when

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Speaker 4: you do, that's when they gash you. That's when they

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Speaker 4: hit the big play. It's it's a very creative. Mike

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Speaker 4: McDaniel deserves a typic of the cap that that running

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Speaker 4: game is pretty much unlike any other in the National

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Speaker 4: Football League. The Bengals haven't faced anything like it yet

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 3: As for the passing game, they will not have Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 3: We know how great he is. He was lost in

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: Week four with a pretty gruesome looking knee injury, so

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Speaker 3: he's not going to be back this year. They still

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Speaker 3: have Jalen Waddle, former high first round draft pick and

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: an excellent player. He's got eight hundred and thirty eight

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Speaker 3: receiving yards this year. Da Darren Waller came out of

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: retirement to play tight and he had two touchdown catches

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Speaker 3: on against Pittsburgh, so it looks like there's still something

1448
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: in the tank for Darren Waller. The big question mark,

1449
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: of course, is going to be the play of their

1450
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, Quinn Ewers. He appeared in one game earlier

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: this year, a blowout loss to the Cleveland Browns. His

1452
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: first pass in the NFL should have been a pick six,

1453
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: it was dropped by Cleveland. He threw eight passes in

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: the game, went five for eight. He's never started a

1455
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: game in the NFL, started the last three years at Texas,

1456
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: played well for the Longhorns, got them to the College

1457
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: Football Playoff a couple of times. But now a particularly

1458
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: big guy. He's six to two hundred and nine pounds.

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Speaker 3: He was the fourteenth and final quarterback taken in this

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Speaker 3: year's draft, So even though he was a ballly hooed recruit,

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Speaker 3: the number one quarterback recruit in his class when he

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Speaker 3: originally went to Ohio State, by the end of his

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Speaker 3: college career, even with his success at Texas, he was

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Speaker 3: selected in the seventh round of the draft, number two

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Speaker 3: thirty one overall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last round, last round of the draft. Now, and

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Speaker 4: you know, let's face it, you're talking Quinn Ewers for

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Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Banks. Come

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Speaker 4: of advantage Cincinnati. Yeah, most definitely advantage Cincinnati, and they

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Speaker 4: just have to make sure that they take care of

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Speaker 4: business that way. You know, don't try to do too much.

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Speaker 4: Just let the game come to you. If you're Joe

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, put the pressure on Quinn yours.

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 4: See if you can see him, make him make some

1475
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 4: poor decisions and put the ball where he's gonna regret

1476
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: putting the football. Make him make some mistakes and stop

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Speaker 4: the run. Stuff the run exactly.

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Speaker 5: Do that.

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Speaker 4: That's first and foremost, because that's what the Miami that's

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Speaker 4: the DNA of the Miami Dolphins offense.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a time out. It's been a tough

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Speaker 3: year for the Bengals, the record four and ten with

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: three games to go, but there has been at least

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Speaker 3: one very big positive and we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rawley Show presented by Just

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Speaker 3: Bear Chicken, live from the On the Rhine Eatery here

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Speaker 3: in downtown Cincinnati. Out of ESPN in fifteen thirty, Dan Orton,

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Speaker 3: Dave Lapham back at the On the Ryan Eerie, the

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Speaker 3: food hall above the Downtown Kruger here in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: It is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

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Speaker 3: Beared Chicken. As we said before the commercial break, nobody

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: would suggest this has been a successful year for Cincinnati

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 3: at four and ten with three games to go, but

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Speaker 3: there has been a positive. One area of the team

1495
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: that's been a concern throughout the Joe Burrow era has

1496
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 3: performed much better this year, particularly over the last six

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Speaker 3: or seven weeks. And I'm talking about the offensive line. Yep,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals built an offensive line that they can finally

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Speaker 3: feel good about going into next year to protect Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Earlier this week, I spoke to Robert Wintraup. He covers

1501
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,959
Speaker 3: the Bengals for Cincinnati Magazine. He's got an analytical background.

1502
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,520
Speaker 3: He also covers the NFL for the FTN Football Almanac.

1503
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: Was kind of a numbers crunchers a website in any case,

1504
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 3: I asked Robert, if we should feel good about the

1505
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: play of the offensive line.

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 17: Sure, I mean, why not in the season where a

1507
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 17: lot of things have gone wrong. That's one that whereas

1508
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 17: in past seasons it's gone very wrong. This year, he

1509
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 17: can't really point to it as being a detriment. Maybe

1510
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 17: not a top five unit in the league by any stretch,

1511
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 17: but they've played well. Anytime you start a rookie at

1512
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 17: one of the five positions and he not only you know,

1513
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 17: keeps his head above water, but actually plays well in

1514
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 17: Dylan fairschild at left guard, that's a success story. Marius

1515
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 17: Mims taking the next step forward playing well and not

1516
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 17: being injured and actually playing for the most part of

1517
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 17: full season was a huge success story in his development.

1518
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 17: You know, and importantly, obviously they're going to have to

1519
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 17: devote a lot of resources again to the defensive side

1520
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 17: of the ball in the off season. That would look

1521
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 17: different if you were having, like going into this year,

1522
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 17: having to also devote resources to try and to fix

1523
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 17: several positions on the offensive line. I think they've stabilized

1524
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 17: that unit at least for the time being. They certainly

1525
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 17: looked to maybe making changes going down the line with

1526
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 17: some of the veterans, maybe at center and at left tackle,

1527
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 17: but I think they feel comfortable going into at least

1528
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 17: twenty twenty six that they're in decent shape on the

1529
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 17: offensive line and it's not holding the team back as

1530
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 17: it've had in a lot of ways, you know, really

1531
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 17: the entirety of Burrow's career to this point.

1532
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: Good description from Robert Weintraub. The Bengals did give up

1533
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 3: three sacks last week. The twenty four to nothing final

1534
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 3: score had a little bit.

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 5: To do with that.

1536
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 3: Baltimore had the opportunity to quote unquote pin their ears

1537
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: back go after the quarterback late in the game, but

1538
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 3: prior to that, one sack allowed in each of the

1539
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: previous four games.

1540
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: That's what you're looking for absolutely, you're looking for that

1541
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 4: type of level of performance and the consistency of it.

1542
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: You know, for or four games, to give up one

1543
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 4: quarterback sack per is good. I mean in today's football

1544
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 4: times that you're throwing the football, to allow just one

1545
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: quarterback sack is excellent. Really, the other thing you want

1546
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 4: to bear in mind is not only do you want

1547
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 4: to keep your quarterback from being sacked, you want to

1548
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 4: keep him from being pressured and hit. You don't want

1549
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 4: him taking too many shots and going to the ground.

1550
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 4: That's that's where you know, now you're exposing yourself to

1551
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: a higher percentage in risk of injury at that key position.

1552
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: So I do think the offensive line though, as a unit,

1553
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: has improved light years from the beginning of the year

1554
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: to this point in the season. I think the graft

1555
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 4: has definitely gone up, and Orlando Brown Junior is playing

1556
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 4: at a very consistent level. Dylan Fairchild, who you guys

1557
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 4: were talking about, the rookie guard from Georgia. I mean,

1558
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 4: he was a great perform in the SEC. You know,

1559
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: that's good football Alabama and everybody else that you that

1560
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: you play against, you're gonna play against good op position

1561
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 4: on a week to week basis. Ted Carriss has been

1562
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 4: around for a long time, understands the game and knows

1563
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: how to utilize fundamentals and techniques to his advantage. Out

1564
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: leverage opponents, very intelligent, makes all the calls to the

1565
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: offensive line, gets some in the right spots, blocking the

1566
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 4: right people. Dalton Reisner is a veteran guy who's been

1567
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 4: around and has solidified the right guard position for the

1568
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals. He's playing at a pretty darn good level.

1569
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 4: And Marius Mims getting it done. Big, strong, powerful, athletic.

1570
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 4: I mean just about every adjective that you can think

1571
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 4: of to describe a football player playing good football. Marius Mims.

1572
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: It fits him well. Jalen Rivers, the rookie that you

1573
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: talked about, dan bright future. I mean you put requirements

1574
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: for offensive linemen into a computer, that body type Jalen

1575
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: Rivers has comes spitting out of there, man. I mean

1576
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: he's this guy is going to be fun to walk.

1577
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 4: I think he's got a very bright future. And Cody

1578
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: Ford is the guy that can play anywhere. He plays

1579
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 4: center in a pinch. He's played a lot of guard

1580
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 4: and a lot of tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals. Lucas

1581
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 4: Patrick is a veteran guy that's been around the block

1582
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 4: and he can play center in guard. So I think

1583
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 4: the offensive line is turning into a strength rather than

1584
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: a weakness for the football team.

1585
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 3: You were involved recently in a Dine with the Old

1586
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: Line event where the old time sorry if that term

1587
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: offends you, the old time offensive lineman get together with

1588
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 3: the current offensive lineman guys like you and Anthony Munoz

1589
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 3: and Max Montoya chop it up with the current guys

1590
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown junior, Ted Carris, et cetera. How is that

1591
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: interaction between the old and the new.

1592
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 5: It's great, it really was.

1593
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 4: You know, one thing you realize is there's not that

1594
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: much difference really in how guys approach their craft, how

1595
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: they work, what they have to do to get ready

1596
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 4: to play football. Understanding you know who they're supposed to block,

1597
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 4: how they're supposed to block them. It's it's it's a fraternity.

1598
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 5: It's a bond.

1599
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 4: It's like a bond that is never broken. And it

1600
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: was stands generations. You know, there were three distinct generations

1601
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 4: of offensive linemen at that function, and everybody interacted pretty well.

1602
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 4: The stories were flowing fast and free.

1603
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh you guys all speak the same language.

1604
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 5: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, it was fun night, real fun.

1605
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: You all speak trenches in the trenches, baby, yep. All right,

1606
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 3: we're gonna take a time out when we come back.

1607
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Our special guest has arrived. It's going to be with

1608
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 3: us until six o'clock tonight here at the On the

1609
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery. We'll talk to Sam Hubbard in just the moment.

1610
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 3: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

1611
01:20:53,720 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 3: Bear Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the

1612
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 3: Bengals pep Rowley Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. We

1613
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: are live at the On the Ryan Eatery, the food

1614
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 3: hall above the Downtown Croker at Courton Walnut here in

1615
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati. We're here until six o'clock tonight, getting you

1616
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 3: ready for the Bengals and Dolphins coming up on Sunday

1617
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: at one. As promised a very special guest in the

1618
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: final hour of our show, and he has joined us

1619
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: a few minutes early, which we appreciate. Sam Hubbard in

1620
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 3: Jack his first year as a former Bengal. You look healthy,

1621
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: you look relaxed, nothing aches. Now you're not getting up

1622
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: on Mondays feeling terrible. You've got a nice pig smile

1623
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: on your face from first year as a former Bengal.

1624
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's true. It's definitely in a different feeling on

1625
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 18: Monday mornings, like you said, But enjoining, I love being

1626
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 18: back home in Cincinnati. Still here connected with a bunch

1627
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 18: of the guys on Tuesday, a bunch of the D

1628
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 18: line guys, Trey Miles, cam had a little outreach thing.

1629
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 18: It was good to see some of those guys.

1630
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: Were you at the game last Sunday? I was somewhere

1631
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 3: in a suite.

1632
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 5: I hope. I did my best to stay with.

1633
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 3: How tough was it to play in conditions like that?

1634
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 3: You obviously played in some really cold games. That Christmas

1635
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: Eve game in New England I think was technically the coldest.

1636
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: Second AFC Championship game in Kansas City was really cold.

1637
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: How did you deal with that?

1638
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1639
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 18: I always felt the worst for the guys handling the ball,

1640
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 18: because you know, you do you do the tricks where

1641
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 18: you have surgical gloves underneath the actual gloves, right, and

1642
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 18: of course train ever wore gloves. But uh, I think

1643
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 18: that when you gotta like be dexterous and handle the ball.

1644
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 18: It's really tough, but you know, the contact feels a

1645
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 18: little bit more uncomfortable, your helmets frozen solid. Everything's a

1646
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 18: little bit more of a mental game at that temperature.

1647
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 18: And uh yeah, it's it's part of the game.

1648
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is.

1649
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: I played in the Freezer Bowl and that thing was

1650
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 4: nine below a raw temperature and fifty nine below wind chill.

1651
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 18: They still talk about that game. They got brought up

1652
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 18: a lot on Sunday. Yeah, I mean it it was

1653
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 18: cruel and unusual punishment. You know, it was it was

1654
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 18: hard to hard to play the game of football, you know,

1655
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 18: under those conditions for a lot of the reasons that

1656
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 18: you talked about, Sam. I mean, you know, the hitting,

1657
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 18: you could really feel it. And then when you hit

1658
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 18: the ground the second hit, well moon, the two hits

1659
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 18: was like the raise what turf burn? Yeah, things much

1660
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 18: much worse. Absolutely, you know, everything's everything's magnified. And then

1661
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 18: you know, I decided I was gonna I had a grabber.

1662
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 18: I had a guy that Gary Bighans Johnson appropriately named.

1663
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 18: The guy had muckers on and they were like big

1664
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 18: old mits. He grabbed and pull. So I didn't want

1665
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 18: to have extraneous cloth there, you know. So I'm like,

1666
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 18: all right, I'm gonna slap that vasse leno in there.

1667
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 18: They told us we can put it on exposed skin,

1668
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 18: put on my face, put.

1669
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 5: It on my arm. Yeah, that definitely helps. Yeah too.

1670
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 4: But man, when you swapped that thing and it coagulated,

1671
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 4: but which it stung like heck. Man, when you hit

1672
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 4: that bear that pair of skin, it was like it's working.

1673
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 4: I can feel it's working, man, because his hand would

1674
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 4: slide right off of there. The things you do to

1675
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 4: try to win football game.

1676
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 18: I've played a few games in Miami in Decemmer. It's

1677
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 18: a nice switch up.

1678
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1679
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you that because now they go

1680
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 3: from you know, ten degrees last week to eighty one

1681
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: degrees supposedly this Sunday. When you went south late in

1682
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: the season, after the weather had taken a turn for

1683
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 3: the worst in the Midwest, did it completely energize you

1684
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 3: or you're like, man, it's gonna be warm, I'm gonna

1685
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 3: go out and feel great today.

1686
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 5: No, you definitely feel great.

1687
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 18: The turf down there hard or it's natural grass, it's

1688
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 18: it's a really nice surface to play on. Softer, but

1689
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 18: you know, it's a hydration difference because the colder gets,

1690
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 18: the harder it gets, the hydrated, you don't really sweat

1691
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 18: as much. But you know, I remember being down there

1692
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 18: getting an ivy at half we played and I think

1693
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 18: it was double ot and uh what was that nineteen?

1694
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? Actually, yeah, it's the burrow to a bowl.

1695
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 18: But yeah, it's it's an adjustment. You got to make

1696
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 18: sure you hydrate. But it was a nice switch up.

1697
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 18: I enjoyed it for sure. Yeah, I'm telling you, the

1698
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 18: going from the cold, the bitter cold, to the to

1699
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 18: the warmth. I mean your blood thickens. You know it

1700
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 18: literally does your blood thickens, and uh, you can you

1701
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 18: can feel it. Did you have many cramping problems when

1702
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 18: you went from cold to hot like that?

1703
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 15: I didn't really, and I know a lot of.

1704
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 5: I mean you're a highly conditioned dude. You gotta hydrate.

1705
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 18: And uh, I know Jamar is probably pumped about the

1706
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 18: playing in the heat, right, Yeah, it's easier. I think

1707
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 18: that they'll be slinging the ball around hopefully nice sunny day.

1708
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 3: How long did those halftime ivs take?

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Speaker 18: Uh, it's it's a you get in there and you

1710
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 18: scream for an ivy back there, you got five minutes

1711
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 18: maybe to get it set up, hooked up, do a

1712
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 18: pressure bag, you miss the adjustments, and then you run

1713
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 18: out of there. The problem is is when twenty guys

1714
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 18: need Yeah, yeah, it's it's a process. The training stop

1715
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 18: does a great job, though, and you know you kind

1716
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 18: of give them a heads up if you're real, Like

1717
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 18: if there's a long two minute going into the half,

1718
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 18: if I was finding mad, I was like, hey, Matt,

1719
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 18: set me up, and then you run in there and

1720
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 18: get it taken care of.

1721
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: But get it kind of prioritized based on all right, well,

1722
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: these guys are starters. These guys are getting a bunch

1723
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: of snaps. They get them first.

1724
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, Well, if you're not getting a bunch of

1725
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 15: snaps and you're getting.

1726
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 18: I V I think I would say something as right,

1727
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 18: get out of here. I wasn't when I was a rookie,

1728
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 18: I wasn't necessarily getting Ivis I hear you? You kind

1729
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 18: of get to earn your hierarchy.

1730
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, I mean rookies and Tiger had a great

1731
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 4: line and when you guys young buckshee, rookies understand.

1732
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 5: You to be seen and never heard you got me

1733
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 5: never heard.

1734
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 18: I mean I adopted that for philosophy. Yeah, I think

1735
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 18: it's a wise one. Yeah, I agree.

1736
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: So we've got warm weather to look forward to. This Sunday,

1737
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: the Bengals heading to Miami to take on the Dolphins.

1738
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about that and much more with our

1739
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 3: special guest, Sam Hubbard. Sam is with us until six

1740
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: o'clock tonight. We're here at the On the Rhine Eatery,

1741
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 3: the food hall above the downtown Kroger. If you've never

1742
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: been here before. Great place to come out and get

1743
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: a bite and have a drink on a Friday afternoon.

1744
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 3: They've got incredible dry rub wings. I'm from the Buffalo area.

1745
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: I know my wings. These are out as good as

1746
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 3: it gets in Cincinnati. They've got great burgers as well, sushi,

1747
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 3: other Asian food. There's a full service bar.

1748
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 5: Again.

1749
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 3: It is the on the Rhine Eatery, just above the

1750
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 3: downtown Kroger at Court and walnutt. Plenty of seats available

1751
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: parking nearby. There's a garage attached. I would love to

1752
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 3: see you come out and join us in the final

1753
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 3: hour of the show. And as we've said earlier, if

1754
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: you've got a Bengals fan on your Christmas list, you

1755
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 3: can get something signed by Sam Hubbard. He'll do it

1756
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 3: for free. During the commercial breaks in the final hour

1757
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 3: of our show, we're going to take a time out

1758
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: back with much more on The Bengals pep Rally Show

1759
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 3: presented by Just Bear Chicken. Here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: Of Best Care for the Best Fans, Kiddery Health, official

1761
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. This is ESPN fifteen thirty,

1762
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1763
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, everybody. It's a Friday afternoon here in the

1764
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: Queen City. The Happy hour is underway, the work week

1765
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: is basically done, and we've got the Bengals pep Rally

1766
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 3: Show for you, presented by Just Bear Chicken. Life from

1767
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: the on the Rhine Eatery the foodhull above the downtown Kroger.

1768
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: Come out and join us, grab a bite to eat,

1769
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 3: a lot of inexpensive items here there's a full service

1770
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 3: bar as well, and our very special guest in the

1771
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,919
Speaker 3: final hour of the show today is former Bengals defensive

1772
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 3: end Sam Hubbard, whose NFL career came to an end

1773
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: at the end of last season. We're going to turn

1774
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 3: the clock back to the very last play. Oh baby,

1775
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard's NFL career. Let's listen. In Burrow fakes a handoff,

1776
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: throws a pass.

1777
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 16: Sam Hubbard with the catchon touchdown Bengals.

1778
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard raising.

1779
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 16: The football over his head and spiking at ground style

1780
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 16: after the first catch.

1781
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 4: How his NFL career Sam Hubbard's started his career at

1782
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Moler High School.

1783
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 5: Is a tight end? Sam Hubbard is an athlete, Sam Hubbard.

1784
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 5: That's a great fingertip catch.

1785
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: It was a great fingertip catch. How about that spike?

1786
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Was that something that you had in mind or was

1787
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 3: that completely in the moment.

1788
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 5: No, we had rehearsed that one.

1789
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 18: Joe was making me do them the routes full speed

1790
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 18: and walk through pre practice, and then we had to,

1791
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 18: you know, practice a spike. Of course, I almost messed

1792
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 18: it up, getting too excited as soon as I got up,

1793
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 18: but then held it back, gathered ted and the rest

1794
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 18: of the crew, and I actually gave it a legit spike.

1795
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 18: So uh it worked out one of the one of

1796
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 18: the coolest moments ever. I got Joe's jersey.

1797
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,919
Speaker 15: From that game, nice framed in my basement.

1798
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 3: Uh got the ball.

1799
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 5: I got the ball too.

1800
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 3: Did you expect to be wide open?

1801
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 5: I mean normally I was not wide open.

1802
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 3: No, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm wondering if you

1803
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: being a defensive linemen lining up presumably to block.

1804
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, Joe told me there's gonna be a guy

1805
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 18: on me, and I don't have the exact breakaway speed.

1806
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 5: But uh that was God.

1807
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 18: Yeah, the the in traffic catch. But it was a

1808
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 18: I think Zach was so confident in calling it because

1809
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 18: it was a third string or second string linebacker.

1810
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 5: They didn't really know.

1811
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 4: So huh, take advantage, no doubt, no doubt, take advantage

1812
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 4: of opportunities from opportunity knocks man open the door. So uh,

1813
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 4: Molar High School, Ohio State, Cincinnati Bengals. You are the

1814
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 4: Cincinnati kid, the Ohio kid. Are you glad?

1815
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 5: It?

1816
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 4: Is it something that as you reflect back on it,

1817
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: you even cherished their decisions you made even more to

1818
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 4: stay local?

1819
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1820
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 15: I think so.

1821
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 18: I think that now you know, the plan since I

1822
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 18: got drafted was to to always stay local. And you know,

1823
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 18: I'm here full time and want an opportunity to have

1824
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 18: the support system and everything that I had. And what

1825
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 18: makes it all the sweeter is the success. We were

1826
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 18: able to have here, the energy we brought to the

1827
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 18: fan base, and you know, if you recall that that

1828
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 18: run to the Super Bowl, what the city felt like

1829
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 18: walking around the streets for those months. I mean, I'll

1830
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 18: hold onto that time for the rest of my life,

1831
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 18: and you know, hoping for it again here soon I got.

1832
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 18: I got faith in our and our boys to uh

1833
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 18: to get back to the promised Land.

1834
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: I worked that back when he wanted back soon. You

1835
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: preceded Zach Taylor. You actually started your Bengals career when

1836
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: Marvin Lewis would the head coach. We had the opportunity

1837
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 3: to visit with Zach earlier today and I asked him

1838
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 3: about the impact you made on his career to this

1839
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: point as the Cincinnati Bengals head coach. Here's Zach Taylor,

1840
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 3: always the guy I.

1841
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 6: Could kill, Always a guy that if I needed and

1842
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 6: the opinion of a player on schedule or vibe of

1843
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 6: the team, or I knew I could get Sam up

1844
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 6: there and transparent and as a leader like it was

1845
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 6: fun for me to see when he finally decided, you know, realize,

1846
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 6: these guys respect me and I can now talk more.

1847
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 6: I don't just have to be the lead by example

1848
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 6: guy all the time, and I think that was more

1849
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 6: year two. So it was fun watching him become a

1850
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 6: captain and guys rally around him and we had the

1851
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 6: success we had, and he was a huge part of that.

1852
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 6: Fought through injuries. That's as a coach you appreciate that

1853
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 6: more than anybody, the guys that give you everything they

1854
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 6: have despite your circumstances. And Sam was the number one

1855
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 6: example of all that. And so that's that was always

1856
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 6: meant a lot to me to know that Sam was

1857
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 6: gonna we'll have the off season charter, we're going to

1858
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 6: play and doing everything I came to play. So that

1859
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 6: was that was great, and I you know, for him

1860
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 6: to he was on me for years to catch a

1861
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 6: pass and so first career to end on that play,

1862
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 6: it was very fitting, you know, it really was, and

1863
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 6: it I don't obviously don't want his career to end

1864
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 6: on an injury, but I think it was I can

1865
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 6: say this without feeling stupid, like it was a cool

1866
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 6: way for him to in his career. You got to

1867
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 6: go in and run one route all season and you

1868
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 6: kind of touching up past contest to catch from his

1869
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 6: college roommate.

1870
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 5: Pretty cool. But that was cool.

1871
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: I think he's right.

1872
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 5: It was cool.

1873
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 3: Were you on him in fact for years to catch

1874
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 3: a pass?

1875
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 18: No, that was pretty cool. I didn't you asked him that.

1876
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 18: I was definitely you know, in his year, I you know,

1877
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 18: jokingly because of my great reps as a rookie fullback.

1878
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 18: I was like, hey, you know, I'm ready, let's do

1879
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 18: it and go. And you know, when it comes down to, hey,

1880
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 18: here's the play we're calling it, it's a whole different ballgame.

1881
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 18: You get much more nervous and you're like, I don't

1882
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 18: know if I actually want this and drop it right here.

1883
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 5: But I got to give credit to Zach. He you know,

1884
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 5: he did.

1885
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 18: You know, he really made that happen and it was

1886
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 18: it turned the momentum in that game. But Zach, you know,

1887
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 18: I he did so much for me in my career.

1888
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 18: Have so much respect for him and how he's handled

1889
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 18: you know, tough situations from you know, twenty nineteen till now.

1890
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 18: You know, I can't say enough good things about Zach

1891
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 18: and how he goes about his business. Also watching you know,

1892
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 18: he watched my evolution. I watched his evolution from a

1893
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 18: first time head coach to where he is now.

1894
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 5: I think that he's learned.

1895
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 18: He's all you know, he journals and writes everything down

1896
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 18: and really reflect and gets better every year.

1897
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,560
Speaker 15: So it's cool to be around a guy like that.

1898
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 15: And yeah, that was cool.

1899
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 4: When you're in your playing days with the Bengals Ohio State,

1900
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 4: who's the greatest player you ever played with? Who is

1901
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 4: the guy that had the biggest impact on the gaming

1902
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 4: on you?

1903
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 18: Obviously in my time with the Bengals, I would say,

1904
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 18: you know, Joe had the biggest impact, and that's kind

1905
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 18: of the obvious answer. But you know, I came into

1906
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 18: the league watching you know, Aj Green, you know he

1907
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 18: unfortunately got hurt, but in twenty eighteen, you know, winning

1908
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 18: games and overtime against Atlanta Falcons, Geno Atkins having ten sacks.

1909
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 18: You know, you come in and you see these legends

1910
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 18: you you grew up watching play at a high level

1911
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 18: and that was like, wow, that's you know, this is

1912
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 18: the epitome. And then go throughout my career and you

1913
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 18: see a guy like Jamar come in and his his

1914
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 18: youth and energy take you straight to a super Bowl

1915
01:35:58,680 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 18: and do some.

1916
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 5: Things you couldn't imagine.

1917
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 18: I mean, he's a different player than Aj but a

1918
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 18: twenty one year old kid watching him do some of

1919
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 18: these things with joe It's like, wow, this is this

1920
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 18: is cool to watch. But yeah, I played with a

1921
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 18: lot of great players, but you know, I think the

1922
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 18: most special player I've seen is Jamar I mean it's

1923
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 18: unbelievable Tea too. I mean, wow, some of the stuff

1924
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 18: they do. They're so different in the way they play.

1925
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 18: But what great players in the privilege to watch and

1926
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 18: play with?

1927
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 4: What about college? Who would be the guy or guys

1928
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 4: he might choose from a college career.

1929
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,560
Speaker 18: So I came into Ohio State, like you said, I

1930
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 18: didn't know anything about the position, and once I was

1931
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 18: transitioned to defensive line, they put me directly behind Joey Bosa. Yeah,

1932
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 18: and I just watched Joey do everything and a lot

1933
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 18: of the defensive line stuff. I mean, he worked tirelessly,

1934
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 18: but he's probably the most gifted natural pass rusher like.

1935
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 5: Ever I've ever seen. So the way he moved and

1936
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 5: the way he worked his craft.

1937
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 15: If I just.

1938
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 18: Followed exactly what he was doing in the drill, like

1939
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 18: you watch his drill, just try and copy how he

1940
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 18: does the drill right, if you do it half as good,

1941
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 18: you're you're doing all right. But I think a lot

1942
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 18: of players see Joey or have seen Joey in college

1943
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 18: when you know, we won the national championship. He had

1944
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 18: twelve and a half sacks. I mean, probably the best

1945
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 18: defensive player I've ever seen, so still playing. He's having

1946
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 18: a good year. He's playing really well for the Sales

1947
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 18: this year. It was fun to watch who else on

1948
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 18: the buck eys I gotta go Joey. I mean, some

1949
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 18: of the stuff a Zeke Elliott did, Michael Michael Thomas.

1950
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 18: Watching Michael Thomas and Eli Apple go at it in

1951
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 18: practice in spring, just doing one on ones was some

1952
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 18: of the most competitive football I've ever watched because it

1953
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 18: was about it was about pride, and they would talk

1954
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 18: so much to each other, a lot of trash Talkoh yeah,

1955
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 18: but that's good thing about How say you get exposed

1956
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 18: to some incredible generation players.

1957
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 3: It was interesting hearing Zach Taylor talked about how he

1958
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 3: leaned on your leadership, especially once you had established yourself

1959
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. Did he call on you often to get

1960
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 3: input on, as he said, the schedule or the vibe

1961
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 3: and in the locker room, did he have he come

1962
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: up to the offense and office rather and kind of

1963
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 3: fill him in.

1964
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 18: Yeah, as I went throughout my career, I think he

1965
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 18: does that with a lot of players. I mean, as

1966
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 18: the head coach, your job is to assess where the

1967
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 18: team is, where the head of the team is. And

1968
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 18: as leaders as captains, your job is to shoot it

1969
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 18: straight to the coach about what you're seeing and what

1970
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 18: needs to be addressed because his job is to make

1971
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 18: decisions and he needs to have all the information about

1972
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 18: you know, our players really you know, upset about talctice

1973
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 18: and inside or outside, like he makes a decision and

1974
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 18: the whole team can be like, oh what. You know,

1975
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 18: the transparent communication was always what Zach was after and

1976
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 18: I tried to do my best, you know, tell him

1977
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 18: what he needed to hear or wanted to hear. And

1978
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 18: it's not like you need to be scared of him,

1979
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 18: but you know that comes with trust and you know

1980
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 18: he understands that I'm not just serving my own interest

1981
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 18: or he's not serving his own interests. And I think

1982
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 18: there's guys on the team, Ted BJ, there's guys that

1983
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 18: he can go to now. But you know, Zach was

1984
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 18: always trying to get the most information to do right

1985
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 18: and make the right decisions by the team. And that

1986
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 18: only comes if you have people that'll tell you the truth.

1987
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 4: You are not only a great football player, you were

1988
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 4: unbelievable lacrosse player as well. Tell us about your lacrosse career.

1989
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 4: When did that start, how did that start, and did

1990
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 4: you play any other sports growing up?

1991
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 5: In third grade? I played lacrosse. Well.

1992
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 18: I grew up doing all the sports like I think

1993
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 18: every kid should, you know, soccer, baseball, but had to

1994
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 18: choose between baseball and lacrosse in the spring, and I

1995
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 18: chose lacrosse in third grade. So third grade starts tackle

1996
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 18: football and you start lacrosse. And played basketball in the

1997
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 18: winner and that was kind of you know, the grade school.

1998
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 18: But I was always you know, my brother's a cross player.

1999
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 18: I would spend hours outside throwing against the wall and

2000
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 18: really took to it. And I was always the la

2001
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 18: cross player, you know, one of the best players to

2002
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 18: play wherever it was.

2003
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 15: And I was an okay football player, you know, I

2004
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 15: did all right.

2005
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 18: And then you know, I get to high school and

2006
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 18: get invited to all these camps and make varsity as

2007
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 18: a freshman, and I was a lacrosse guy and get

2008
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 18: the offers early. Was really cool to be viewed as

2009
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 18: you know, you're such a highly sought after recruit because

2010
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 18: it's all on the East Coast. You know, it was

2011
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 18: very really for Midwestern players to get offers and get recruited.

2012
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 18: So I was, you know, going about my business. Then

2013
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 18: we had success in football. We went state my junior year,

2014
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 18: and you know, the recruiting process, I think the rules

2015
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 18: were a lot different as far as contacting back then.

2016
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 18: But I was just finished my freshman year, committed to

2017
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 18: go play college lacrosse at Notre Dame. At Notre Dame

2018
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 18: just turned sixteen, so you know you're going into sophomore

2019
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 18: year already knowing you're going to Notre Dame on lacrosse scholarship,

2020
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 18: so you know, you play football for fun.

2021
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 3: You know.

2022
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 18: Two years later was when we win state as a

2023
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 18: junior and I get recruited for football, and I tell

2024
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 18: coach coach Rodenberg, who was the Muller varsity coach at

2025
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 18: the time, you know, I'm a lacrosse player. There's only

2026
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 18: four schools that I would listen to if they came knocking.

2027
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 18: It was Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan and Stanford and

2028
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 18: as soon as those are the schools, but that's what

2029
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 18: you give up. That's what I was willing to give

2030
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 18: up lacrosse to consider. And of those schools, Ohio State

2031
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 18: was kind of the first one to really offer me,

2032
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 18: and then after that everyone everyone came once the word

2033
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 18: got out. But funny enough, Notre Dame didn't didn't want

2034
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 18: to take from their own program and let me play football,

2035
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 18: so kind of was hands were tied on that decision.

2036
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 18: They wanted me to play lacrosse and said I could

2037
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 18: I think walk on or they.

2038
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 14: It wasn't.

2039
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 18: Athletic directors got to be fired. It wasn't like they

2040
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 18: wanted me to come play football. I definitely knew that

2041
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,560
Speaker 18: was the vibe, but I loved their lacrosse program, but

2042
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 18: ultimately decided it was the full ride that I had

2043
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 18: to go with at Ohio State and had to shift

2044
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 18: my mindset from being, you know, the lacrosse player to like,

2045
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 18: I was a solid football player, but now I'm going

2046
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 18: all in.

2047
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 3: So lap and I both went to Syracuse famous lacrosse program.

2048
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, most final fours of any school did

2049
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 3: they for lacrosse?

2050
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 12: No?

2051
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:36,440
Speaker 3: They come on, they love.

2052
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 18: Their East Coast guys. Pat Kennedy I think was the

2053
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 18: Moller guy that went to Syracuse though, yeah he was.

2054
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 18: He was still holds maybe the all time goals.

2055
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 5: Was there a father son, Pat Kennedy father.

2056
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the father I think coached for a while.

2057
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 18: I think you might have coached my brother. Then Pat

2058
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 18: Kennedy coached me and a select travel team. But great players,

2059
01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 18: lacrosse family.

2060
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 5: I all right.

2061
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 3: In the last week or so, there have been a

2062
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:06,440
Speaker 3: lot of national stories about Joe Burrow, Where is his mindset,

2063
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 3: does he want to be in Cincinnati?

2064
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 5: Whatever?

2065
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: You've all heard about it and read about it. Well,

2066
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 3: Sam knows Joe as well as just about anybody. We're

2067
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 3: going to talk about Joe when we continue with our

2068
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 3: special guest, Sam Hubbard. We are live at the on

2069
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery, the food hall above the downtown Kroger.

2070
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 3: It's the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear

2071
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 3: Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals

2072
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 3: pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. It's a

2073
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 3: Friday afternoon here in the Queen City. We're getting ready

2074
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 3: for the Bengals and Dolphins coming up. On Sunday at

2075
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 3: one o'clock. We are live today at the on the

2076
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 3: Rhine Eatery, our Friday afternoon home for the Bengals pep

2077
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 3: Rally show. It's the food hall above the downtown Kroger

2078
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 3: at Court and Walnut, and our special guest Sam Hubbard

2079
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 3: is with us for the second week in a row.

2080
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. Sam is here until six o'clock tonight.

2081
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 3: We'll be breaking down some plays just a little bit

2082
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 3: later on the show, but we want to talk about

2083
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow in this segment. Joe's a very close friend

2084
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 3: of yours, going back to your days at Ohio State,

2085
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 3: and last week it made headlines when Joe expressed frustration.

2086
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 3: It's been a tough year coming back from his injury.

2087
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 3: The team's not going to the playoffs. We get it,

2088
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 3: he's frustrated. Mike Brown's frustrated, Duke Tubbin's frustrated. I'm frustrated, well,

2089
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 3: but he's frustrated. We want this team to get back

2090
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 3: to the postseason as quickly as possible. But there's just

2091
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 3: something about Joe when it comes to the national media

2092
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 3: where they're just determined to insist did he hate Cincinnati

2093
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 3: even before he was drafted. What did we hear, Oh,

2094
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna pull an Eli Manning, gonna want to go

2095
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 3: to the Bengals. Then he comes here, does great things,

2096
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 3: says nothing great, nothing but great things about Cincinnati, about

2097
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 3: playing for Zach Taylor set. So I get a little

2098
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 3: bit agitated anytime I see these talk shows where people

2099
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 3: are cooking up these wild scenarios. Ah, the Jet should

2100
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 3: trade for him tomorrow. Please, you're driving me crazy. In

2101
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 3: any case, Albert Breer is the number one NFL guy

2102
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 3: for Sports Illustrated. He comes to town every year in

2103
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 3: spring camp or fall training camp. He has a great

2104
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 3: relationship with Joe, always talks to Joe whenever he comes

2105
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 3: to town. Typically writes a very good story for Sports

2106
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 3: Illustrated about Joe whenever he's here. So he posted a

2107
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 3: video yesterday about this situation with Joe Burrow, and I

2108
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 3: thought it was just about perfect. So we're going to

2109
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 3: play this from Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated, and then

2110
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Sam Hubbard about it. So

2111
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 3: here is Albert Breer on Joe Burrow.

2112
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 13: I've had conversations with Joe about this over the course

2113
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 13: of the last five years, and I can tell you this,

2114
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 13: he really views himself as the change agent there, as

2115
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 13: the guy who was going to really turn the page

2116
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 13: for that organization. He used this phrase with me a

2117
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 13: few times earlier in his career, where he said, the

2118
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 13: old Bengals are dead.

2119
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 11: This isn't the old Bengals anymore.

2120
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 13: And he really has had a voice in that organization,

2121
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 13: in getting Jamar Chase paid and getting T.

2122
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 11: Higgins paid, and like you even look at things like

2123
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 11: the practice bubble right like they didn't have a practice.

2124
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 13: Bubble in Cincinnati, Ohio, which sounds crazy, but you know,

2125
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 13: his presence there I think is part of why they

2126
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 13: now have an indoor facility. The scouting staff last off

2127
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 13: season was expanded. That's the first time they've done that

2128
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 13: in forever. And they still have some more to do

2129
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 13: in building the operation out, but he's changed that as well.

2130
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 13: And so I think his level of investment in the

2131
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 13: Bengals organization and his interest in being the change agent.

2132
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 11: There, I think is very very real.

2133
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 13: And so I don't think you have to be worried

2134
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 13: about Joe Burrow elbowing his way out of there now,

2135
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 13: but it's something that should be on the Bengals radar

2136
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 13: going forward, and it's something that's on the radar every

2137
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 13: time he makes one of these sorts of comments with

2138
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 13: the other thirty one team. So I think Joe is

2139
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Speaker 13: still invested in making it work with the Bengals. I

2140
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 13: think Joe still wants to be the change agent in Cincinnati.

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01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 13: I still think I still know that he feels that

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01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 13: there'd be great value and being the person who turned

2143
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 13: a franchise around in that sort of manner. I mean,

2144
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 13: he has a chance to be what Joe Montana is

2145
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 13: in San Francisco, what Tom Brady is in New England

2146
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 13: and Cincinnati, and I think he really values that. Then

2147
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 13: you know, you look at and say, okay, like, could

2148
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 13: this eventually be Matthew Stafford in Detroit? Like that's possible too.

2149
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 11: I don't think we're there yet, but you know, you

2150
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 11: get a few years down.

2151
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 13: The line and this still isn't working, then certainly I

2152
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 13: think that could that that could wind up happening. And

2153
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 13: so to me, I look at this as the pressures

2154
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 13: on the Bengals to keep building aggressively around him, to

2155
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 13: create championship scenarios for him.

2156
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 11: But that's been what it's been since he was drafted

2157
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I think that's very fair analysis from

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01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 3: Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated. Sam, what did you think

2160
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 3: when you heard that?

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01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it was very fair. I mean, and

2162
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 18: he puts things in perspective. You're right, there is you know,

2163
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 18: a fixation on Joe from the national media for whatever reason.

2164
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 18: I think it's because he's such a great player and

2165
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 18: people you know, love to talk about him or you know,

2166
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 18: analyze what he does. But very much so, Joe views

2167
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 18: himself as the change agente and a lot of the

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01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 18: change that has come since I walked in the door,

2169
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 18: Joe was the catalyst for you know, you remember, we

2170
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 18: hadn't won a playoff game in thirty one years, and

2171
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 18: we go to the super Bowl, and I understand that

2172
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:33,919
Speaker 18: we want to go to the super.

2173
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 5: Bowl every year, but h to you know, focus.

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Speaker 18: On Joe being you know, anything but the driving force

2175
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 18: of you know, doing everything in the whole organization, trying

2176
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 18: to mobilize and as he said, invest aggressively to get there.

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01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 18: You know, it's kind of doing the disservice, making a

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 18: narrative out of nothing. Like everyone in that building is

2179
01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 18: you know, focused on trying to the narrative and uh,

2180
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 18: you know, we really had some great years where it

2181
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 18: felt like there would never be another losing season. But

2182
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 18: it's the NFL is tough every year, some new team

2183
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 18: emergings and for whatever reason, the mixes of guys, injuries,

2184
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 18: coaching turnover. You know, it can be attributed to a

2185
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 18: lot of things, but the attribute to get to Joe

2186
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 18: being checked out is not one that.

2187
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 5: Should should make the headlines.

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01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 18: In my opinion, I agree thirty one years. I mean,

2189
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 18: when you think about that, I mean, what more do

2190
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 18: you want from the guy? He was a month early

2191
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 18: from a total toe replacement surgery, and like his dedication

2192
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 18: to come back just to give the team a chance,

2193
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 18: and even if they didn't have a chance, just to

2194
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 18: be out there with his guys to play football. He

2195
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 18: could have honed it in before the season was even there,

2196
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 18: could have honed it in never played another snap, but

2197
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 18: he worked for three months tirelessly to get back out

2198
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 18: there because he loves ball and he loves being in Ohio.

2199
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 18: Guys about as higle guy as I am, even more so.

2200
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 18: So you know, it takes a great pride in playing

2201
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 18: for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: I know that I've said over the years, the calendar

2203
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 3: historically is measured in you know, years BC and AD,

2204
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 3: But in this case, this is the year six JB

2205
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 3: because things have changed since Joe Burrow arrived in Cincinnati. Now,

2206
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 3: maybe not at the pace as some people would like, right,

2207
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 3: but every year the Bengals have been trying to do

2208
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 3: something that has made the franchise better, whether it's building

2209
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 3: the bubble, whether it's rebuilding the locker room, the training facility,

2210
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 3: the weight room. Obviously we saw the contracts they handed

2211
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 3: out last year to Jamar and t. So the next

2212
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 3: project is to fix the defense. The defense just has

2213
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 3: not been good enough the last couple of years. They're

2214
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 3: gonna have to aggressively attack that this offseason because we

2215
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 3: know the offense is going to be.

2216
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 5: Good absolutely, you know.

2217
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 4: And and I think Joe Burrow has as much influence

2218
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 4: and pull with his organization as any quarterback in the area.

2219
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think the Brown Blackburn family,

2220
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 4: to give them credit.

2221
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 5: They listen to them.

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01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they know they know that he he

2223
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about, and they know that he's

2224
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 4: representing the opinion of the football team. Uh, and and

2225
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 4: he's definitely the leader of the pack. So it, like

2226
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 4: you said, a lot of the stuff that they've done, Dan,

2227
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,719
Speaker 4: and kudos to them. It's it's tremendous. I mean they've

2228
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 4: been you know, called penny pinchers, cheap all that for

2229
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 4: for years and I think, you know, at some point

2230
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,560
Speaker 4: in time, you do get sick and tired of it.

2231
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 5: If I'm them, I would be yeah.

2232
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I do think that the Joe

2233
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 4: Burrow era has many chapters left, and hopefully the final

2234
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 4: chapter is the Super Bowl.

2235
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong for the organization to get together

2236
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 3: at the end of this year, once all of the

2237
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 3: data is in and say, Okay, why haven't our most

2238
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 3: recent picks been more successful? Why haven't some of our

2239
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 3: more recent free agent signings been more successful? It was

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Speaker 3: working in twenty one and twenty two, that hasn't worked

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01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 3: quite as well since. And let's fix that because we've

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01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 3: got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. When

2243
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 3: you start with that, you've got a chance of doing anything.

2244
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 3: And you know, I've pointed this out before as well.

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01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty one, the Super Bowl team that you

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01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 3: played on lap the team won six games the year before.

2247
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 3: In eighty eight when they went to the Super Bowl,

2248
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 3: they won four games the year before. Sam, the team

2249
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 3: that you went to the Super Bowl with in twenty

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01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: twenty one, you won four games the year before. That's

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01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 3: how it happens in the NFL. So frequently it's not

2252
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 3: just a steady climb to the mountaintop. Sometimes you've got

2253
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 3: some things right, you've got other things that need help.

2254
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 3: You fix that thing that needs help, and now you're

2255
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Speaker 3: in the mix to win a title.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

2257
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 4: It's a it's an interesting recipe, you know, building a

2258
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 4: building a franchise, building a football team.

2259
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 5: Uh, sometimes it's just.

2260
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 4: Like one ingredient, one one last spice is all it's

2261
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 4: gonna take to to get you over the top and

2262
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 4: take you to the promised Land. And uh, I do

2263
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 4: think with Joe Burrow at quarterback and some of the

2264
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 4: skilled players they have offensively, they're close.

2265
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 18: I mean that is the hardest part to a lot

2267
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 18: of teams wish that they had the quarterback part figuring

2268
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 18: out that very few people on the earth can do

2269
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 18: what he does. And you know we've got the guy

2270
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 18: and I Joe, you know, everyone wants him to speak

2271
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 18: or use his voice, and Joe knows how much his

2272
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 18: uh you know how with the impact of his word

2273
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 18: and his opinions, and he uses it to better the

2274
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 18: organization and the team. And like you said, the ownership

2275
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 18: values what he says and tries to mobilize on what

2276
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 18: he requests because it's gonna help everybody. So yep, you know,

2277
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 18: I kind of just let those those narratives spin off.

2278
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 18: Like I'm sure you know the players do as well.

2279
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 3: Sure, right. When Sam joins us on our radio shows,

2280
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 3: we like to break down some plays from the previous game.

2281
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 3: We're not going to do quite as many this week

2282
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 3: because last week's game obviously didn't go very well for Cincinnati,

2283
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 3: but we we do have a a few plays excuse me,

2284
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 3: that Sam has picked out. We'll get to those when

2285
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 3: we come back. This is the Bengals pep Rally Show.

2286
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 3: We're presented each week by Just Bear Chicken, live from

2287
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 3: the on the Rhine Eatery the food hall above the

2288
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 3: downtown Kroger Here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 11: While honoring our past.

2290
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by

2291
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 3: Just Bear Chicken Live from the on the Rhine Eatery.

2292
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham, our special guest in

2293
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 3: the final hour of the show this week, Sam Hubbard.

2294
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 3: Really appreciate Sam coming out in joining us this week.

2295
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 3: We'll be back here at the on the Rhine Eatery

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01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 3: next Friday from three to six. We tentatively have rookie

2297
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 3: left guard Dylan Fairchild scheduled to be our guest in

2298
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 3: the fi hour of the show. We'll confirm that early

2299
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 3: next week, but as of a couple of days ago,

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01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 3: looked good for Dylan to be able to join us

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01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 3: next Friday from five to six. When Sam joins us,

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Speaker 3: we'd like to have him break down some plays nice

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01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 3: typically few on offense, few on defense. Unfortunately, the offense

2304
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 3: didn't score last week, so we're just gonna go with

2305
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 3: a couple of plays on defense, and we're going to

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01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 3: start in the first quarter. Baltimore got the ball to

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01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 3: begin the game. The Bengals won the toss, elected to

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 3: to first. So the defense trying to shut down Lamar

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01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 3: Jackson and keep the Ravens off the scoreboard early in

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01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 3: the game, and that's exactly what they did on the

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01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 3: opening drive. Here's how that drive ended third down and seven.

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01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 3: Baltimore and its own forty nine first drive of the game.

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01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 3: Lamar with a deep drop looking to throw, begins scrambling

2314
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 3: and gets brought down near the line of scrimmage Miles

2315
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 3: Murphy with a tackle. There's a loss on the play,

2316
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 3: so that'll be a sack and the Bengals will force

2317
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 3: Baltimore to punt. That's great, all right, Sam, tell us

2318
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 3: a little bit about what's about to you on that play.

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01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 18: I got to point out Miles Murphy. You know, I

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01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 18: said I was with him on Tuesday. He looks great.

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01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 18: He told me he was about two sixty five to seven,

2323
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 18: so a little bit leaner, but you see it in

2324
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 18: the play speed, like his play speed every week just

2325
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 18: seems to be picking up and.

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Speaker 5: Getting those two sacks.

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Speaker 12: I know.

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01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 5: It's big for your confidence, Kevin.

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01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 18: You know a couple of good games like that early

2330
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 18: in your career for me, made me really, you know,

2331
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 18: ascend and start feeling some confidence. And I watched him play.

2332
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 18: He was using his hands, getting extension, being reactive off

2333
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 18: the ball. You know, he beat two tight ends like

2334
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 18: very cleanly. And Lamar is not an easy guy to

2335
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 18: bring down, so I think if you're looking for a

2336
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 18: bright spot, you got to look at Miles Murphy and

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01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 18: the way he's been playing the last couple of weeks.

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01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 4: He is is athletic on the edges there is in

2339
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 4: the NFL. I mean, the guy has got superb athleticism,

2340
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 4: doesn't he.

2341
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the way he moves is unbelievable.

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01:56:57,600 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 18: I remember when you know, first drills he did after

2344
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 18: the draft, and it was unbelievable how fast he moves

2345
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 18: because of his size. He's He's a huge dude, and

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01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 18: I think that he's really allowing that to translate to

2347
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 18: increased game speed. And you know, once that all clicks

2348
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 18: with his with his tools, he could be really really special.

2349
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 18: And you know, I think that it's really starting to click,

2350
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 18: and he's starting to string together some nice games, some

2351
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 18: nice pressures. I thought he and Joseph Aside played well together.

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Speaker 3: One of your strengths was setting the edge in run defense.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Miles, by and large has done that

2354
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 3: much better this year than the previous two. Does that

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Speaker 3: send out to you?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, there was a few plays. I remember it played

2357
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 18: last Sunday a little. I think it was a pitch

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01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 18: action out to the flat, and he was about five

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01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 18: yards in the backfield setting the edge. And when you're

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Speaker 18: playing that left defensive end, you know you're usually getting

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01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 18: the bigger right tackle and the more athletic left tackles

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01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 18: on the other side guarding the blind side. But when

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01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 18: they're running the ball, you know they usually run to

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01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 18: the side of the left defensive end. And you also

2365
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 18: got to think about the fact that at the left

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01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 18: defensive end, you are the quarterback's face and that's the

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Speaker 18: escape lane he's staring at when he drops back, and

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Speaker 18: you know, Trey had the blind side and the quarterback

2369
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 18: can't really see if you're running too deep. But as

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01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 18: far as being the left defensive end, you have to

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01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 18: be in your power family rush and collapse in the pocket,

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Speaker 18: and you can't just kind of speed rush every time,

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Speaker 18: which his size and speed puts him in a great

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01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 18: spot to be successful on the left edge. But it

2375
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 18: all starts with you know, you got to be the

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01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 18: shutdown run guy on that side of the ball, and

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Speaker 18: then you can work your power, work your speed, and

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01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 18: he's kind of putting it all together to be a

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Speaker 18: three down player.

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01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 4: Josephsai to compliment him on the other on the other edge.

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Speaker 4: He's more of that speed rush guy that you're that

2382
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 4: you're talking about, but if needed, I mean he can

2383
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 4: he can to gap and shut that rundown pretty decently.

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Speaker 4: Do you do you like where the Bengals are with

2385
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Speaker 4: their tandem and defense.

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Speaker 18: Ave end, Yeah, no doubt. I think they're playing well.

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Speaker 18: I think I'm excited to see Schamhar come back, and

2388
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 18: every rep for him is just gonna be beneficial and

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01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 18: his career, So seeing him back out there is gonna

2390
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 18: be great. And then you got Cam Sample who's just

2391
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 18: been a great rotational guy, very consistent, and those two

2392
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 18: guys can't be enough. You have to have at least

2393
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 18: three starting level caliber defensive ends in rotation at all times.

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01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 18: You look at any great D line and they'll have

2395
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 18: you know, two guys will start the game, but there's

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Speaker 18: really three starting defensive ends. That's essential. So you know,

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Speaker 18: Trey's out with I think he's doing well off his surgery,

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01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 18: but you got to have a third guy Merge. Hopefully

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01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 18: they can be Shamar and Cam's really just a plug

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01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 18: and play on de tackle or anywhere. You got to

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01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 18: have those versatile guys too. But as far as you know,

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01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 18: this year I think Joseph is a free agent, but

2403
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 18: you gotta have three. That's that's what I'll say.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we heard one highlight. Let's get to another.

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Speaker 3: The first highlight was a sack on Baltimore's opening drive.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to go to the Ravens second drive,

2407
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Speaker 3: and the Bengals got to Lamar Jackson again. Let's listen.

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Speaker 3: In the Ravens line up in an eye formation, it's

2409
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 3: a fake to the left. Jackson runs to the right

2410
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Speaker 3: and gets sacked at the ten yard line by Demetrius Knight. Right,

2411
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 3: he intercepted Lamar Jackson in the first meeting and the

2412
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Speaker 3: tackle was made at the nine yard line for a

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Speaker 3: big loss.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this, deja sack he's going to have.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's not touched, nobody lays a fingernail on him,

2416
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Speaker 4: and he does a great job of containing Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: It's been a growing process for Demetrius Knight. Rookie thrown

2418
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Speaker 3: right in there in the starting lineup in week one.

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Speaker 3: He had a couple of sacks in the game last

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Speaker 3: weekend of forest Fumble. Your thoughts on Demetrius Knight.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, like you said, the growth, I put that play

2422
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Speaker 18: on there because I saw a bunch of opportunities early

2423
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 18: in the season where he or other young linebackers were

2424
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 18: in the exact spot and they did the fatal era

2425
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Speaker 18: where you jump you leave your feet. He gave Lamar,

2426
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Speaker 18: gave a pump fake and he didn't leave his feet.

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Speaker 18: He let he matched the hand and you fall right

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Speaker 18: into a sack. But as a young player, it's just

2429
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Speaker 18: so easy to jump and as soon as you jump there,

2430
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Speaker 18: he's out of there. And I thought he showed some discipline,

2431
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Speaker 18: which means that I don't know Demetrius personally, but if

2432
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Speaker 18: he's been taking those mistakes he made early in the year,

2433
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Speaker 18: correcting him and turning them into production, that bodes well

2434
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Speaker 18: for his career and his development. So hopefully that you know,

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Speaker 18: that's the progress he's making in the meeting room and

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Speaker 18: with his coaching, and I was happy to see him

2437
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Speaker 18: have that production for his confidence.

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Speaker 4: You're right on with Demetrious Knight. I mean, his teammates

2439
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 4: and coaches all say that he is a sponge. He

2440
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Speaker 4: wants to learn. I mean he's one of those guys

2441
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Speaker 4: that is never satisfied. He's always asking questions, always looking

2442
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 4: to learn more. Can't have enough of those guys.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a hard thing to do to be a

2444
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 18: starting middle linebacker in the NFL calling the defense. Even

2445
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 18: Logan Wilson his rookie year, we had Josh Bienes, a

2446
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 18: ten year veteran right that would start and call the

2447
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 18: defense and hold like kind of hold Logan's hand until

2448
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Speaker 18: Logan blossom.

2449
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 5: Into being, you know, the guy.

2450
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Speaker 18: But to get thrown into that position at that age,

2451
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 18: it's it's not like you're just you know, rushing the

2452
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 18: passer or doing something that doesn't have consequences of the

2453
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 18: ten guys around you. So it's a bit a lot

2454
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 18: on his shoulders. But I think that next year he'll

2455
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 18: be a leg up because whenever you go through that

2456
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 18: growing process, sooner the better.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, this is the Bengals pep Rally Show. We

2459
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 3: are live at the on the Ryan Eatery. We're here

2460
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Speaker 3: with Sam Hubbard for about fifteen more minutes. If you

2461
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 3: happen to be in downtown Cincinnati, now too late, join us,

2462
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 3: grab an autograph, get something to eat or drink here

2463
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 3: on the Bengals pep Rally Show. Back with Sam in

2464
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Speaker 3: just a moment on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to

2465
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Speaker 3: the Bengals Pet Rowley Show, presented by Just Fair Chicken,

2466
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 3: live from the on the Rhyine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati.

2467
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Speaker 3: Our special guest is Sam Hubbard. We're going to play

2468
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Speaker 3: America's favorite game show and just a bit we call

2469
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 3: it No Your School. Yes, that's a few minutes away.

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Speaker 3: But while we just have a brief segment here, let's

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Speaker 3: get an update on the foundation. You know, Ted Carris

2472
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 3: has been named the Bengals nominee for the Walter Payton

2473
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 3: Man of the Year Award for the second time. And

2474
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 3: that's something that you were nominated for in the past,

2475
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 3: recognizing the work that you've done over several years now

2476
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Speaker 3: for your foundation.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, no, I'm pulling for Ted this year. I think

2478
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 18: he's got a real shot. I'd love to see him

2479
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Speaker 18: actually win it. How's was it Kenny Anderson that wonted?

2480
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Speaker 3: Kenny, Anthony Munos you want to and Reggie Williams are

2481
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Speaker 3: the three Bengals to win it while they were Bengals. Additionally,

2482
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 3: Boomersiasin won it after you know, joining the New York Jets.

2483
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 3: Right another Bengal won it after leaving and it'll come

2484
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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 5: And whitworth. Oh yeah, yeah, you want it? The year

2486
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Speaker 5: that we played the Super Bowl, Yeah right.

2487
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 3: And actually Mendello Williams, a lot of fans might not

2488
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 3: remember that name. He didn't play that long in Cincinnati,

2489
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 3: but he also wanted after going to another team. The

2490
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 3: Bengals have been well represented in the highest honor the

2491
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:29,320
Speaker 3: NFL gives out aside from you know, MVP Award and

2492
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 3: on field things. Right, this is the ultimate prize you

2493
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 3: can get for your all around contribution.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.

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02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 18: But May fourteenth is gonna be our annual fowling tournament.

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Speaker 18: Mark your calendars taken to go on sale. You can

2497
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 18: follow social media, but uh, we're hard at work closing

2498
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 18: out the year, a really strong year. We weren't sure

2499
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Speaker 18: what it would look like with the retirement, but uh,

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02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 18: you know, we're we're doing better than ever and built

2501
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 18: for the sustainability of the programs we're running and happy

2502
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 18: to lean into it much more with my free time

2503
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 18: and meeting a lot of cool people, doing a lot

2504
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 18: of cool things in the city and seeing how we

2505
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 18: can work together is really something I'm enjoying right now.

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02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 4: Have you ever gone candlepin bowling? I haven't you ever

2507
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 4: hear of that. No, it's the pins are long and

2508
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 4: skinny and they have like a ring around them, like

2509
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Speaker 4: a candle.

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Speaker 3: And they have a place here since I'm very new England.

2511
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Speaker 4: Yeah, very it's New England. Yeah, we used to go

2512
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 4: candlepin bowling almost every week.

2513
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Speaker 5: Really.

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Speaker 18: Yeah if the ball, the ball is tiny, well they

2515
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 18: have pins mechanical it's just like a smaller bowling type thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: And they just opened a darts bar down here.

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Speaker 5: Is that right ted throughout the first dart?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that first dart. I stopped by on Thursday.

2521
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Speaker 5: It's a really cool spot spot all right.

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Speaker 3: So the Falling Tournament is May fourteenth. That sucker always

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Speaker 3: sells out. It's a very popular event, so check the

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Speaker 3: website for more information and tickets as the day gets closer.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, you'll see, uh the save the date for

2526
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Speaker 18: when the tickets go live on the Sam Hubert Foundation

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Speaker 18: social media and we'll do the best to make sure

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Speaker 18: everyone's got a head start.

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Speaker 5: All right. Congratulations to you for making the community you

2530
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Speaker 5: a better placement. Thanks, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: We are going to take our final time out. When

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Speaker 3: we come back, we will play America's favorite game show,

2533
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Speaker 3: Know Your School. And we've done this with Sam multiple

2534
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 3: times in the past, so there are almost only so

2535
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Speaker 3: many Ohio state questions out there. We're going Molar High School.

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Speaker 3: I've got five questions about Molar High School in this

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Speaker 3: Know Your School edition. You must get at least three

2538
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Speaker 3: rights to be declared a winner. This is the Bengals

2539
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 3: pep Rally Show, presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from

2540
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Speaker 3: the on the Rhine Eatery the Foodhull above the downtown

2541
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Speaker 3: Kroger here on ESPN fifteen thirty Brian Brown, the.

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Kid, Hob's Gotta Come Bin chase for Andreas and

2543
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 7: the thirty the twenty Well.

2544
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Speaker 3: Stop the Mike Turrico call of the fumble in the jungle.

2545
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Speaker 3: Mike was one of my college buddies at Syracuse. He

2546
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 3: nailed it with the Cincinnati Kid in that call. Just

2547
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 3: a very memorable broadcasting moment for Mike and obviously maybe

2548
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Speaker 3: the greatest single play in Cincinnati Bengals history. Provided by

2549
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Speaker 3: our special guest today here on the Bengals pep Rally Show,

2550
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Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard. Before we play Know Your School, America's favorite

2551
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Speaker 3: game show. If you thank yous to pass out Thank

2552
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Speaker 3: you to our engineer, Mike Mills. Appreciate Mike's hard work

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Speaker 3: every week.

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Speaker 5: Mike Magic.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Austin back in the studio at Thank

2556
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 3: you to George and the folks here at the on

2557
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Speaker 3: the Rhine Eatery for their hospitality, to the ben else

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Speaker 3: we're with us here today, and thank you to the

2559
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 3: Bengals fans who are with us here today.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: All of you all right. Time for know your school.

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Speaker 3: Five questions about Molar High School, Big Mo. You must

2563
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Speaker 3: get at least three rights to be a winner. Dave

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Speaker 3: Lapham's son, who also went to Molar and is with

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Speaker 3: us today, is not allowed to give you any answer.

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Speaker 3: Question number one, Name the two Major League Baseball Hall

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Speaker 3: of famers who went to Molar High.

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Speaker 15: School, Ken Griffy Junior and Barry Larkin.

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Speaker 3: You are correct one for one nice question, the easy

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Speaker 3: then you ripped that.

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Speaker 14: That was.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: This one's a little bit more difficult. Who was the

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Speaker 3: first principal at Molar High School?

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Speaker 18: That's a tough one. Yeah, that is, yeah, the first principal. Yep,

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Speaker 18: I'm trying to think of names I've seen hung around

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Speaker 18: the walls.

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Speaker 15: He knows it.

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Speaker 3: He does not appear to know it. Dave Lapham Sunday

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Speaker 3: does not appear to know it.

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Speaker 5: You know, went and down. Just go Jerry Faust or

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Speaker 5: brother Flaherty.

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Speaker 3: Oh for two, Lawrence eve Slage.

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Speaker 15: So Eve Slage is one of the houses of the

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Speaker 15: house system.

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Question number three. That's amazing. There are six houses in

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Speaker 3: the motor house system. Name at least three. You don't

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Speaker 3: have all that pillar that was yours?

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Speaker 5: Right, that pillar Zara Goza, yep, Eve Slage. That's three.

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Speaker 3: All right, you're already got it right, But you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I'm glad I only asked for three. Four am

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Speaker 3: I to stumped you? We have Quiroga Roga.

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Speaker 5: Trinity, Trinity shou one and Taylor Taylor.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, Zaylor Zayloralor's right, Zaylor. It's a combination

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Speaker 3: of Zad and Taylor.

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Speaker 18: Makes sense that they you know, where they came up

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Speaker 18: with the name's last name of the principal stuff. I

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Speaker 18: always wondered where they came from.

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Speaker 3: There you go, all right? Question number four. What Moeler

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Speaker 3: grad ascended to Speaker of the House John by John

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Speaker 3: Baynor is correct? All right, you're already a winner, but

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Speaker 3: now you have a chance to go four for five.

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Speaker 3: This is an easy one. Now, I'm kind of embarrassed

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Speaker 3: by how easy this one is. Name the molar grad

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Speaker 3: who started thirty four games at center at the University

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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati and was named first team All Conference after

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Speaker 3: his junior and senior years.

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Speaker 18: Doug ros Ros coach Doug and uh, former head coach

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Speaker 18: of Buller's right.

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Speaker 15: All right, so you are my history teacher.

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Speaker 3: You're two for two this year and your school you

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Speaker 3: won knowing Ohio State and you won again Knowing Moeller. Congratulations.

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Speaker 5: Perfect next week next year bringing.

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Speaker 3: Your elementary school.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all Saints, I'll take Saints. All Saints. There you go. Sam.

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Speaker 3: It's been awesome to have you on our shows this year.

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Speaker 3: We greatly appreciated. Happy holidays to you and your wife

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Speaker 3: and the rest of your family. And go Bengals, Go Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Always pleasure appreciate you. That's going to do it for

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Speaker 3: our show this afternoon. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 3: and for the Bengals fans who came out to join us.

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