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Speaker 2: The war now is in its twenty second day, and

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Speaker 2: it's not finished yet. I can't believe it's not over.

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Speaker 2: and you know they're going to get the job done.

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Speaker 2: I just saw this morning that got this is incredible.

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Speaker 2: beyond belief to me. It just shows how great our

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Speaker 2: You know, Trump has been pretty strong on the company

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Speaker 2: the countries that are not helping us, and I don't

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Speaker 1: He's really putting it on him and I don't blame him.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, the countries so far that have pledged to

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Speaker 2: to give you kind of an idea of who and

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Speaker 2: the public execution of Salih Mohammad He's a nineteen was

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Speaker 2: a nineteen year old champion wrestler, and two other men,

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Speaker 2: Madi Gassimi and Said de da Vouti. The executions, which

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Speaker 2: took place in the city of Kuam on nineteen March,

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Speaker 2: that's how they handle these things, public execution by hanging.

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Speaker 2: With respect to mister Mohammadi, he was the wrestler. He

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Speaker 2: He was executed by public hanging, as I said. Human

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Speaker 2: This came out this week and this is from AI.

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Speaker 2: According to a twenty twenty six State Controllers report, New

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous the rising costs for this thing.

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Speaker 2: While spend the spending crew in New York City on

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Speaker 1: Well, Governor Hokel New York Governor.

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Speaker 2: She was this week pleading this is funny for wealthy

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Speaker 2: They're just they're taxing these corporations and these wealthy individuals

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Speaker 2: a little bit eroded, Governor. Her remarks were made during

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Speaker 1: So she's trying to talk people in who moved out

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Speaker 2: Because of the taxes to come back, and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: I just have one question, why why should they do that.

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Speaker 2: You didn't give them a reason, Governor, And they're going

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Speaker 2: I mean, these people are delusional. They're truly delusional. People

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of a way of liberal thinking. And

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Speaker 2: these people they're not realistic and they're living in dream

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Speaker 1: Governor.

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Speaker 2: And mister Mayor, Hey, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 2: is called the bow Wow Act, And before you start laughing,

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Speaker 2: let me tell you what it is. The bow Wow Act,

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Speaker 2: which is House Resolution forty six thirty eight, is a

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Speaker 2: Republican led bill that has caused signific Again, this is

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Speaker 2: from ai significant partisan debate in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 2: The bill proposes to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act

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Speaker 2: to make any illegal alien convicted of harming law enforcement

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Speaker 2: that would be something that they could get on board with. Well, no,

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Speaker 2: Democrats that voice strong opposition, arguing it is a political

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Speaker 2: tool aimed at increasing deportation. Boy, wouldn't that be horrible

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Speaker 2: horrible if it increased deportations rather than a genuine animal

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Speaker 2: noting that police dogs are often used in high stress

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Speaker 2: confrontations were the person might instinctively defend themselves. Honestly, I've

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Speaker 2: read that two or three times. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a load of you know what. Look, the bottom

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Speaker 1: All they give a damn.

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Speaker 2: About is their precious illegal alience. How can we protect them? Well, anyway,

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Speaker 2: the by while I passed the House on Thursday. The

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you can see where they are.

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Speaker 2: You can't even pass something rather innocuous. And there is

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Speaker 1: I will. Okay again, the vote was two twenty eight

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Speaker 2: This is from a Fox News article that I find,

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Speaker 2: and this was from Representative Ken Calvert. He's a Republican congressman,

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Speaker 2: not many of those in New York. No, he's from California.

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Speaker 1: Difference.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he said, The dogs and horses on the

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Speaker 2: zero tolerance for any immigrants who assault them. Okay, here's

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Speaker 2: the example, and this Representative Calvert cited this. Okay, it

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Speaker 2: was an incident at Dallas Airport in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: Last thing on this one, he says, can we at

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Speaker 2: what this dog was, five year old beagle at an

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Congress, And that's what you would think, But

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Speaker 2: you know that's not what we're dealing with here, So

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's okay to kick the dogs.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to vote for that. You know that

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Speaker 1: What a joke.

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Speaker 2: Also, this week, well actually I think it was a

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Speaker 2: Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders getting thrown out of a restaurant.

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Speaker 2: Just another example of the tolerant left again. Last week

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Speaker 2: the more recent one first. That was in Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Mike reporting in roving Reporter car Columbus for Mike

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Speaker 7: There a couple of things going on, uh Columbus. We

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Speaker 7: That's right, Yeah, they have. They have recorded on video

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Speaker 7: But I do want to let you know and something

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Speaker 7: And I'm going to learn more about marketing and politics.

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Speaker 4: God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ransom, thank you, thank you for keeping an eye

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Speaker 1: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I just wanted to emphasisize something you talk about

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Speaker 2: I thought it was they died from freezing, which is horrible,

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Speaker 2: freezing to death.

437
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Speaker 5: Well, it's climate change. I guess that's what they call

438
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Speaker 5: it now.

439
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Speaker 2: Okay, but basically you're right, it was from freezing.

440
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that that was clear. Anyway,

441
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's what it was.

442
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Speaker 4: Now.

443
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Speaker 5: How is that any different than a they talk about

444
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 5: these mass shootings.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's horrible.

446
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's a lot of homeless people

447
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: in New York City, but that's very, very high number

448
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: for that. And the problem is, and again you know,

449
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: I've looked at this over the years. I'm not an

450
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Speaker 2: expert by any stretch of the imagination. There are so

451
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Speaker 2: many unsheltered homeless people whatever you want to call them

452
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: that do not want to be anywhere other than outside.

453
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's I don't know the reason

454
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: for it, but that's just what it is. Homelessness. I

455
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of people don't get this. A lot

456
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: of it is a great part of it is mental issues.

457
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Speaker 1: That's why I think.

458
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Speaker 2: We need to reopen or rebuild or build new facilities

459
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Speaker 2: like we had here in Cincinnati. It was called Longview,

460
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: and let me tell you something, it was not a

461
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: good place to go. It wasn't it was old. They

462
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: didn't take care of it. I'm not talking about that.

463
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about new, modern facilities. But I guess that's

464
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: just a long way of saying that that is a

465
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Speaker 2: tragic number, and it's really in a quandary as to

466
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Speaker 2: what to do about it. But you know, when you

467
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: spend eighty one thousand dollars a year on one homeless person,

468
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: you would want a little bit better return on your investment.

469
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Speaker 1: When you think.

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely true.

471
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And a lot of it is drugs. They don't

472
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: want to go into the shelters because they can't get

473
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Speaker 5: their drugs. I mean, working at the hospital, we frequently

474
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: have people who would who would have drugs smuggled in.

475
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 5: They take their heroin and then they go unconscious. We

476
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Speaker 5: go up there, we'd administered in a laxon and revive them.

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Speaker 1: You want to see.

478
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: Someone get violently agitated. You you roll in my buzz Now,

479
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 5: I've saved your life type thing.

480
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Speaker 1: I know, but they don't realize it. That's the problem.

481
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: They don't. But you know that's the problem. You need

482
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Speaker 5: to get them off of that.

483
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Speaker 1: Yep.

484
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Speaker 5: That's where I think cop post camp and I know

485
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Speaker 5: this is I can't really go into this app coppost

486
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Speaker 5: camp would be a good way to get them off drugs,

487
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: teach them how to grow things, grow their own food,

488
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: to grow their own medicine, and life would be a

489
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Speaker 5: lot better.

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Speaker 2: Is this like a helm, a shelter place compost something?

491
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Speaker 2: Did you say, I'm.

492
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Speaker 5: Sorry, that's that that's my own that's that's my that's

493
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: my dream. If if you're convicted of something like anything

494
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: from shoplifting to carjacking to whatever, how you would administer

495
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: you put them in a place where they turn compost piles,

496
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Speaker 5: which is physical labor.

497
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Speaker 1: I do it for free.

498
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Speaker 5: And build soil. Then you can grow nutrients and food.

499
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: That way, you would learn learn. You get some when

500
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Speaker 5: you when you grow food from seed to fork.

501
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Speaker 8: There's a lot, a lot of.

502
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Speaker 5: Whatever you want to call it.

503
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Speaker 1: What pride in doing something.

504
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: Like that, there's pride and all this. All of a

505
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 5: sudden you feel better about yourself everything. You can then

506
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: grow enough food to share with your neighbor and stuff

507
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: like that. So if we do stuff like that as

508
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: opposed to lock and.

509
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Speaker 2: I got to get moving. But this was a great

510
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: call and I appreciate it. Make sure you call back again. No,

511
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: he's right, He's absolutely right. I mean, you know, you

512
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: don't just throw these people away. I don't think the

513
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: answer is simple.

514
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: Treatment. Treatment, treatment, We need more of it.

515
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: That's why that jail down there is packed to the gills,

516
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: and the sheriff I think does a great job even

517
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Speaker 2: for the small amount of time that most people stay

518
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: down there, in providing that. But we need that. Hey,

519
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: let's get Rob in Dayton. Hey, Rob, got a couple

520
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: of minutes left?

521
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Speaker 1: What you got?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well you were talking about your guys. Who's would

523
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 8: have a used to have a place called long View?

524
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 8: Of course we had, Yeah, you know one hearing Dayton

525
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 8: as well. And you're old enough, you're a little bit

526
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 8: older than I am. I'm guessing I'm hell, you might

527
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 8: be younger than I'm. Sorry, I'm sixty, I'm a little older.

528
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 8: You probably quit the hair arena for different things in

529
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 8: the Dayton area, right, I.

530
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Speaker 1: Sure did concerts and yeah.

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Speaker 8: Right, well you know what's going on there. Well it

532
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 8: was bought. There was something going in there when we

533
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 8: had the tornadoes up here Memorial Day. Well then that

534
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 8: sale went through. Now the state has purchased it. And

535
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 8: it started out as a They were talking about it

536
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 8: and yeah, I was in the hospital. I've got heart issues.

537
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 8: And when I come back, they've already completely leveled the property.

538
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Speaker 1: What are they going there?

539
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Speaker 8: They are they are putting a a it's supposed to

540
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 8: be and I would like to see it for the

541
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Speaker 8: not real bad ones it's supposed to people. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, that's probably.

543
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Not what you mean.

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Speaker 8: Well, they are building it for criminally insane.

545
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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean that's an investment. You have got one

546
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: at Lima State.

547
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 8: Now, Okay, here is but you got here, you got you.

548
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Gotta hurry up for me here I'm sorry.

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00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, here's the kicker. It's within three mile of

550
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 8: two elementary well, a charter school, a high school, an

551
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 8: elementary school, and right across Tallow Springs Road now is

552
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 8: low income senior housing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful where you put it. I

554
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: mean I do get that, but hey man, I'm out

555
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: of time for the news. I wish we had more time.

556
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: But thank you. You know again, I think that's what

557
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: we need to do. It's not going to completely solve

558
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: the problem, but it's sure as heck is going to

559
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: help in rebuilding some of those places. Again, don't make

560
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: them horrible like Longview was. They had one in New

561
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: York City called Bellevue. I don't know what the thing

562
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: with View is, but at any rate, and that was

563
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: horrible too. But we need more treatment. And to my

564
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: conservative friends who scoff at that, go down to the

565
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: just sit in any courtroom any given day down there

566
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Speaker 2: at the Hamilton County Courthouse. And my guess would be

567
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Speaker 2: that at least at least forty, probably more percent of

568
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: the people are there because of mental health issues. And

569
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Speaker 2: when you're in an environment light and so much of

570
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: it is, they don't take their meds. And when you're

571
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Speaker 2: in an environment, you know, like a home, you can

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: get your meds. So anyway, I'm not gonna go off

573
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: on a tangent on that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got to take a break.

575
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Speaker 2: But when we get back, the situation with the chief

576
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Speaker 2: of police, Chief Fiji continues, and we're gonna have live

577
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: in studio. I'm not sure which one, but one of

578
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: her brothers to kind of update us, and we'll do

579
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Speaker 2: that when we get back. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday News

580
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Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and hour two of

581
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Speaker 2: Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what.

583
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Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Inquirer had a headline not too long ago.

584
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati police chiefs lawyer warns of hotchet in city pro

585
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: and in city pro and man, that's the way this

586
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: thing is shaken up, in my humble opinion and frankly

587
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: in the opinion.

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Speaker 1: Of many people.

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00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Many people here to talk about it today are two

590
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: of her relatives, Mike and Russ Neville from the legendary

591
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: and I mean that Neville law enforcement family. It's great

592
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: to have you guys, Thanks, thank you. Let me ask first,

593
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: just how's she doing. She's got to be bored to tears. Well,

594
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: it's hard. She's doing as well as can be.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it doesn't mean there's not difficult times and an

596
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 9: ebb and flow, and so I don't want to minimize

597
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 9: that fact. But it's not boring for her. She's got

598
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Speaker 9: kids and grandkids and family. And while she has her

599
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 9: times of boredom and sure, you know, but she's active.

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Speaker 9: She's probably out at sports events all this weekend and

601
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 9: all week long with her granddaughters and grandsons and her

602
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 9: and her husband and they just go good, constant go.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that are concerned about that.

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Speaker 2: I hope she realizes that. I mean, people ask me

605
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Speaker 2: how she doing, Mike. I'm with her frequently, travel a

606
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: little bit with her, and I don't care if we're

607
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, Kentucky, Indiana, Florida.

608
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Speaker 1: Somebody approaches.

609
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 9: And somebody approaches us and wishes her well and recognizes

610
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Speaker 9: that she's been the scapegoat and the victim of politics

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Speaker 9: in Cincinnati City Hall. And while there's a benefit to

612
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 9: hearing that, it still pains her, of course when it said,

613
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 9: of course.

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Speaker 2: For whatever it's worth, I live on the West Side

615
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Speaker 2: and there's still signs, yard signs all over for her.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like a political campaign. Oh that you

617
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: don't have to stop on election day.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and we appreciate the support. She appreciates the support,

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Speaker 9: and we will be pursuing additional support as this moves forward.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, and that leads me to the next question.

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Speaker 2: As it moves forward, I want to ask you guys,

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00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: what you think is going to happen. I know you

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: don't have a crystal ball. The city now, I believe,

624
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: is committed to finally having it completed or issuing the

625
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: report by the end of March, which we're coming up on.

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Speaker 2: Is that your guys understanding as well?

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Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if I would say the city's committed.

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Speaker 9: They committed to a three months Yeah, you're right, one

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Speaker 9: month extension, a fifth month yea. Mister M of Finny

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Speaker 9: Law Firm, Steve m is Terry's attorney.

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Speaker 2: And in my humble opinion, probably the best labor lawyer

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Speaker 2: in this town.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll tell you real quick, beyond being a phenomenal

634
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 9: labor lawyer, he's a really good guy and Terry could

635
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 9: not be more appreciative than what mister M has provided

636
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Speaker 9: in the Fiddy Law Firm to this point is provided.

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Speaker 9: But to answer your question, the feeling with mister m

638
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Speaker 9: and us is that we're expecting a report by the

639
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Speaker 9: end of March, and the expectation is that it will

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00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 9: be as he termed it, a hatchet job, as I

641
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 9: have termed the entire investigation, in this entire process, since

642
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 9: the beginning, the mythical narrative of city Hall and how

643
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 9: they look to make it appear. We're expecting that to

644
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 9: come and expecting the termination then expecting the litigation to

645
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 9: fall of them.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: The problem is with litigation like that, it drags on

648
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: and on and on unless the city makes a settlement offer.

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00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that doesn't happen, that you don't have to

650
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: go there. But I mean, being realistic about it, the

651
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: city's back is up against the wall. I mean, they're

652
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: looking real bad on this thing. One way or the other.

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00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: They got to bring it to a conclusion.

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Speaker 9: I think, well, if their backs up against the wall

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Speaker 9: with self inflicted.

656
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Speaker 2: Oh of course it always is down there. I mean,

657
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Speaker 2: it's just not only this issue, but so many other

658
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Speaker 2: issues as well.

659
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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I like what the quote you guys, one of you

661
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Speaker 2: guys was interviewed by Russ I think it was you

662
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Speaker 2: Fox nineteen quote.

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Speaker 1: This is you.

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Speaker 2: They started to fight, We'll finish the fight. We're not

665
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: going anywhere. Challenge accepted. Tell us what you meant by that.

666
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Speaker 2: It might seem fairly obvious, but I want to hear

667
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: it from you.

668
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Speaker 9: I don't want it to sound gruff. It's so big

669
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Speaker 9: it does. It's just a fact. It's what we have

670
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Speaker 9: said since the beginning. Terry did not bring this on herself,

671
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 9: and as Terry's family, we did not bring it on ourselves,

672
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Speaker 9: and we will fight on behalf of Terry. Terry will fight.

673
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 9: We were raised by our father, a great man. In

674
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Speaker 9: my opinion.

675
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

676
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Speaker 9: If you're forced into a fight, you finish the fight.

677
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Speaker 9: You don't start them, but you finish them. Yeah, that's

678
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Speaker 9: all I'm saying.

679
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the city they're going to have to finish

680
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: it because they're looking bad on this thing. When Steve

681
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: mentioned Steve mentioned the hatchet job, was he any more

682
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: specific than that? And everybody knows what a hatchet job is?

683
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Speaker 2: But you know, if there are any.

684
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Speaker 9: Specifics on it, No, there weren't any specifics. I just

685
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Speaker 9: like you just said, I think it's common sense that

686
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 9: the city has initiated this her goal from their goal

687
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 9: from the inception was termination. It's not likely they have cause,

688
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 9: and they have interviewed whoever they have interviewed. However many

689
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 9: they interviewed, I would offer to you that it's probably

690
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 9: minimal number. The majority of them probably haven't asked to

691
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 9: grind with Terry. But you know, we'll wait and see

692
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Speaker 9: what the report reveals.

693
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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this if you can, only

694
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Speaker 1: if you can.

695
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: I don't need names or want names, But what kind

696
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: of people are they interviewing?

697
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Speaker 1: If you know, we don't know, Okay, Mike.

698
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Speaker 9: We know that the investigative the mythical investigation. And I'm

699
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 9: not slandering the law firm that's doing the investigation. I'm

700
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 9: sure they're doing what law firms do.

701
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: They're operating out a loss. Now I can tell you that. Well,

702
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: when I'm stating there, I'm not just implying it.

703
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 9: When I'm stating is whatever their investigation reveals, based on

704
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 9: the course of the investigation, the narrative of it will

705
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 9: be a mythical narrative that the city twists it to

706
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 9: to fit their goal at hand. And we look forward

707
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 9: to the opportunity to review it, scrutinize it, and provide

708
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 9: the facts that will certainly contradict what their mythical narrative.

709
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Is trying to say.

710
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Speaker 9: So we don't know the number of people, we don't

711
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 9: know the specific people, but I will offer to you

712
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 9: that at some point in time we will and when

713
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Speaker 9: litigation occurs. And I've said this time and time again,

714
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 9: and it's just true, we look forward to the depositions

715
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 9: if we get to litigation, which is sure appeers that's

716
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 9: the way it's going. The mayor, the manager, the director

717
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 9: of law for the City of Cincinnati, council members who

718
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 9: I might add, should be ashamed of themselves. There's just

719
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 9: no other way to say it. They say one thing

720
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Speaker 9: behind the scenes, they get in front of the cameras

721
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Speaker 9: you know, at their office there and they tow the

722
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 9: company line, and they support what the mayror in all

723
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 9: aspects of this element. And I don't know how they

724
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Speaker 9: look themselves in the mirror, to be really honest with you, Mike,

725
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Speaker 9: I don't know. Their characters question their integrities questioned, and

726
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 9: the depositions will reveal the facts.

727
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Speaker 2: You know, looking way down the line you mentioned city council.

728
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Speaker 2: You guys are familiar with issue five back in twenty

729
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: I think it's twenty two or something two thousands. Yeah,

730
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Speaker 2: I mean if that were in place now, you wouldn't

731
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Speaker 2: be here, and you wouldn't be here, you know, and

732
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Speaker 2: you know about it.

733
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Speaker 4: I agree.

734
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Speaker 11: I think the decision making became much more political at

735
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Speaker 11: the higher levels. I think there's a value in them

736
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Speaker 11: thinking they've achieved what many would like for the council

737
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Speaker 11: to have or city Hall to have. But then you

738
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 11: create a scapegoat, and that's kind of where this yep,

739
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 11: you know, taking showing its ugly face here. I would say, yes,

740
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Speaker 11: Issue five was in which barely passed, barely.

741
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: It was I think one or two percentage.

742
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Speaker 11: Yes, I was involved in it, and quite honestly, it

743
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 11: got a late start on trying, and that's right to

744
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 11: get the nose out there. We got a late start

745
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 11: and it barely passed. But I think it's starting to

746
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 11: reap its ugly head here.

747
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Speaker 6: You know.

748
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Speaker 2: And again I am convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, as

749
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: we lawyers like to say, that if that were in

750
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: place now, this wouldn't be happening because the chief and

751
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: I think the assistant chiefs as well, had that civil

752
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: service protection which they don't have now, and they need it.

753
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I wish we would have been

754
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: able to look into the future something like this. I

755
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: guess we kind of did to tell people this is

756
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: what you're in for.

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Speaker 9: Just for clarification, I could be wrong, Mike, but I

758
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 9: think the assistant chiefs still have civil service protection. The

759
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 9: executive officer and the chief are the ones that do not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, good, thank you for correcting me on that.

761
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Speaker 2: Talk to Ken Kober a number of times. Ken seems

762
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: committed to try to get it back on the ballot.

763
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, though, with how this city has

764
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: changed in all these years, I think it'd be a

765
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: tough set. It shouldn't be, but I think it would

766
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: be a tough sell to maybe get it on the

767
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: bout be okay, but to pass it, and that's unfortunate.

768
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Speaker 9: I don't get into politics too often. I'm after retiring.

769
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 9: I enjoyed life as it was until this happened, and

770
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Speaker 9: it brought me back to studios and things like that.

771
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: But it will comment on.

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Speaker 9: It that if the city elected this mayor by the

773
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 9: numbers they elected him by.

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00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, who in their right mind.

775
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Speaker 9: Thinks Issue five is going to get changed unless City

776
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Speaker 9: council steps in and does something and.

777
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Speaker 1: You got away russ A cutting right to it, man,

778
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: And you're right.

779
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 9: And I'll go back to the point of I don't

780
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 9: see this city council doing the right thing on that.

781
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 9: They've clearly not done the right thing on this. I

782
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 9: have lost all confidence in each and every one of them,

783
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 9: and it's disappointing.

784
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, not to.

785
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: Get too political, but you know, you can't find a

786
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: Republican down there with a search warrant, and I don't

787
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: think that's going to change many many years, if it

788
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: ever changes. That's not to say that some of the

789
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: Democrats on that council are not at least a little

790
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: bit independent thinkers.

791
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

792
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: I guess I'm too wrapped up in the whole Issue

793
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: five thing. I worked hard on that, and you know

794
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I told you so. I guess not you guys, but others.

795
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, this is exactly what we would be dealing with.

796
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner, agreed, And I guess

797
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: you know you got the same thing.

798
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Speaker 9: With the fire chief as well. Yeah, to some degree,

799
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 9: I haven't stayed fully informed on that. I know that

800
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 9: in the appellate process, and I know things have went

801
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 9: well for him on a couple of appearances, and there

802
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 9: was a recent appearance and pending whatever the result of.

803
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: That, Steve m is representing him as well. That's correct, okay.

804
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 9: And very fortunate for mister Washington, fortunate for Terry, and

805
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 9: again thank you to mister m and Finny Law firm.

806
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I got a feeling this is going

807
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: to be having to back the Brinks truck up to

808
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: pay out the dough that they're gonna get hit with

809
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: if this goes to court, and also the fire chief

810
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: and there's some other.

811
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Things percolating down there too.

812
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 9: I know I disagree with that, but I really have

813
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 9: to emphasize this. It comes up frequently. This is not

814
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 9: and you hear this all the time. Like ball players

815
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 9: they say it's not about the money, and it's about

816
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 9: the money in those cases. With Terry, this is not

817
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 9: about the money. It really is about her honor and

818
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 9: to some degree, the family honor, which I've tried my

819
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 9: best to keep the family separate from these topics. This

820
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 9: really revolves around Terry how she's been treated. It's about

821
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 9: her honor and her integrity and her reputation and her abition.

822
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 9: What I've turned to you before, I think what bothers

823
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 9: me most and Terry do a degree is they stole

824
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 9: from her the ability And I've said it, maybe people

825
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 9: getting tired of hearing it, but they have stolen the

826
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 9: ability from her to leave with her head high. Yep,

827
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 9: to experience that departure after thirty five years, and to

828
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 9: receive the admiration and farewell that she was justified in

829
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 9: having at least to this point. Doesn't mean that doesn't change.

830
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 9: But to this point, yep, that's and I think what's

831
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 9: really bothersome about it, Mike, is every council member, every mayor,

832
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 9: every manager, everybody in Cincinnati expects law enforcement to protect

833
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 9: people from being victimized, to protect people from being the

834
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 9: victims of theft, and stealing from her is a theft,

835
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 9: and they have done exactly the opposite of what they

836
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 9: expect from the everyday law enforcement officers. That I do

837
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 9: want to add really quickly, Terry to this day thinks about,

838
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 9: cares about, appreciates hawks about every day, and her heart

839
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 9: is still with the men and women of the Cincinnati

840
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 9: Police Department and the communities that the department serves, and

841
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 9: that is absolute opposite of what this mayor and this

842
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 9: manager behave likes. Community specific, it's incident specific. It's not

843
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 9: big picture. It's not what's best for the people. It's

844
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 9: not what's best for the members. But that's where Terry's

845
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 9: mind and heart remain.

846
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: I get it.

847
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: With respect to the city, you get who you elect.

848
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't see any real big changes

849
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: down there. But you guys are all fighting the great fight.

850
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: And like I said, you have an open microphone here

851
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: if something comes up or you just want to update.

852
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: U appreciate it.

853
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 9: I appreciate the support from you and others and the community,

854
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 9: and thank you.

855
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Okay do you guys? Hey, I'll give you the last word.

856
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 9: The only thing I want to add is this is

857
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 9: bothersome to me is you know a lot of what

858
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 9: began this, in my opinion, and I'm sure Terry's is

859
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 9: her attempt to find transparency in the judicial problems and

860
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 9: the low bonds, no bonds, repeat offender releases, which makes

861
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 9: life harder on those that want to live, work, and

862
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 9: plain in the city peacefully, and makes life harder on

863
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 9: law enforcement. I find it ironic that the mayor recently

864
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 9: questioned a low bond after a I saw that after

865
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 9: a high profile incident that made him not look so good,

866
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 9: the department, whomever, not look so good.

867
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Speaker 1: Politics.

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Speaker 9: That's my point. He caters to politics. He says what's

869
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Speaker 9: necessary for political purposes. This is a politically driven incident.

870
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Speaker 9: And Terry has never done this job for votes. She's honest,

871
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 9: she works hard, She's a quality leader. There's nothing nothing

872
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 9: ineffective about her or her leadership. And the mayor is

873
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 9: a politician that will do what he needs to be

874
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 9: done at a given time. And it showed mightily. And

875
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 9: he finally said something about a low bond while ignoring

876
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 9: the hundreds and hundreds of others.

877
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I read that in about out of my chair. I'll

878
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: tell you what she I'm sure she is thankful to

879
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: you guys. What a great family. I mean, you're not

880
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: cowing in a corner and giving up. So, like I said,

881
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: please keep us posted very much. So appreciate the time

882
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: that you're giving us. Okay, Terry needs it, deserves it,

883
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: and we're honored to have it. It's the right thing

884
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: to do. Hey, we got to take a break, but

885
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: when we get back. Open lines Open lines from ten

886
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: thirty to eleven Mike Allen, seven hundred WLW ten thirty

887
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: seven News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen with Saturday Midday. Hey,

888
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: we got some calls here and I'm going to get

889
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: to him. This will only take a couple of minutes here,

890
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: but I want to do it all right once again.

891
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: Last night I had an excellent, excellent fish sandwich and

892
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: shrimp from the Sant Antoninus Fish Fry, which is right

893
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: around the corner from my house. I'm a proud alumnus,

894
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: not exactly a distinguished one, but a proud alumnus of

895
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Saint Antoninus Grade School. It's being run by the Boy

896
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Scouts Troop six fourteen. I was a member again, not

897
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: real illustrious of Troops six fourteen. Our scout master was

898
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: the great and legendary Bob dulan incredible man. At any rate,

899
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: you really should patronize it. Fifteen hundred Liniman at the

900
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: corner of Liniman and Jewel Mar's. I'm a little bit

901
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: of a kind of a connoisseur, if you will a

902
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: fish fries. I'm not going anywhere else. This one's the best.

903
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: And boy, you see the young people working hard there

904
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: it's in the church Undercroft. And again, let me give

905
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: you a tip. Get the shrimp. All right, let's get

906
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: to business here. Let's talk to Alice in Amelia. Hey, Alice,

907
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: you're on.

908
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 12: Hi Mike, thank you for taking my call. I'm discouraged.

909
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 12: I'm out of Hamilton County to Clairemont County because of

910
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 12: the way it was run the city and the county.

911
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 12: It's disturbing that they can find two million dollars to

912
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 12: pay to the family of a criminal, and yet they

913
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 12: they sully the name of Chief Fiji and fire Chief

914
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 12: Washington and they can't find the money to pay for

915
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 12: the arts. Something is wrong. It's disgusting.

916
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Something is very wrong. And I remember when that came out.

917
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm still shaking my head on that one. I mean,

918
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that the city really had any legal,

919
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: any liability in that thing at all. Yet they opened

920
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: the coffers to those people. It's beyond words. I think

921
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: you got a look to who gets elected down there.

922
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Again.

923
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: You can't find a Republican with a search warrant down there.

924
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: So I agree with you completely, and a lot of

925
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: other people do.

926
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 12: Thank you. And there's an old saying these people are

927
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 12: continually re elected to office. But the old saying is

928
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 12: that people deserve the government.

929
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: There you go, boy, that applies here, Alice, thank you

930
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: so much for your call.

931
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 12: Thank you.

932
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 2: You're welcome. You're welcome. Hey, let's talk to Gene in Oxford. Hey, Gene,

933
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: you want to talk about opening Day?

934
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Right?

935
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 13: Yeah?

936
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: Thanks, Mike.

937
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 14: I mean, uh, it's a little Opening day kidbit, you know,

938
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 14: just a little a little bit insertion before you talk

939
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 14: to kid. But this this is something that Reds fans

940
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 14: will love. It's a book by uh and you might

941
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 14: have heard of this already, but it's called the book

942
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 14: is My Big Red Machine by Parents Moore Okay and

943
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 14: uh and it's called My Big Red Machine because it's

944
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 14: his personal involvements along the way as a uh sports journalist.

945
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 14: And he went to Miami and what.

946
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: Was it what was his name again, Gene, I want

947
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: to write his.

948
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 13: Name is parents more and he uh was he like

949
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 13: his parents, He he broke color barriers. He was the

950
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 13: first black journalist, uh as the inquirer.

951
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: Really.

952
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 14: Yeah, he started out there, he actually and of course

953
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 14: he was uh with the Miami student reporting and all

954
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 14: of that. But and then he went on to other

955
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 14: places and wound up in Atlanta. But uh he he

956
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 14: he had local ties. He uh part of the time.

957
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 14: He grew up in Mount Healthy. His parents were uh

958
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 14: you know, very uh well uh you know resume uh

959
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 14: with you know, their backgrounds. Yeah, but uh this this

960
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 14: book came out for the fiftieth anniversary. It came out

961
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 14: last year, the fiftieth anniversary of the Big Red Machine.

962
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going and I am I got to move on,

963
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely gonna look for it. I like to

964
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: read a lot of those local stories. But I don't

965
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: mean to cut you off, but I got a bunch

966
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: of calls. But thank you so much, Gene for that.

967
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. She's gone. You know, I gotta tell you,

968
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine was right in my wheelhouse. I mean,

969
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: we grew up at the most opportune time to watch that.

970
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: You know, when you're young, you see something like that.

971
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: And I went to Elder and we had back to

972
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: back state championships. And when you're young, you think, well,

973
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: you don't think, you just you take it for granted.

974
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: It's never going to end. Well it does, but I

975
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: think that it sounds to me like it'd be interesting book.

976
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: I can tell you what I'm gonna get it. Let's

977
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: see who's up next. Let's talk to Steve in Northern Kentucky.

978
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 6: Hello Steve, Hey Mike, thanks for taking my call. I

979
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 6: had just paid a couple of things. I graduated from

980
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 6: elder like you, and out of Northern Kentucky right now,

981
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 6: and I feel that I'm pretty connected to the local politics.

982
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you. Did you happen to see

983
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 6: the latest posts from Signal ninety nine yesterday?

984
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 5: No?

985
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I haven't checked that this week.

986
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: I had the person that's running it on the show

987
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: last week, but you have not had a chance.

988
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, lady, I have not had a chance to

989
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: check it yet.

990
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 8: Yeah.

991
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 6: But last night they had a really very lengthy post

992
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 6: and it concerned some of the low morale and the

993
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 6: cincinnat Police Department, Yeah, and some of the shompling that's

994
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 6: going on with some of the command staff, really the

995
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 6: relate damp and the relationship that it has with the FEDS,

996
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 6: the ATF, and the way that some of the some

997
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 6: of the analysis is being done as far as some

998
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 6: of the repeat offenders connected to some of the holistic evidence, right.

999
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 6: And it was really really interesting. It took me about

1000
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 6: ten minutes to read it, but man, it was good.

1001
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 6: It was like, man, it was spot on. And you

1002
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 6: get a chance because.

1003
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: I definitely, hey, you know, you take you know, you.

1004
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 6: Take that to you know the heart as well. But

1005
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 6: I just wanted to give you a heads up if

1006
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: you get a chance to take a look at it.

1007
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Steve, Thank you very much.

1008
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I wanted to do today but

1009
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: I haven't had time, is to thank and congratulate the

1010
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Police Department for their excellent work on that whole

1011
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: street racing thing of a couple of weeks ago. You know,

1012
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: it's exactly what I'm talking about aggressive appropriately aggressive policing.

1013
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't have the stats in front of me, but

1014
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: I think they ended up towing thirty six cars, a

1015
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: huge number of people arrested. They had to cut the

1016
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: tires on some of them. That's aggressive. That is exactly

1017
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: what we need in this city. And you know, let's

1018
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: see if we have another one of those things. Apparently

1019
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: a lot of them were from out of town. But

1020
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, I'm the one constantly saying for years that

1021
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: what the CPD needs is to get aggressive again again.

1022
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming them.

1023
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're concerned that they won't get the backing

1024
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: that they need. But I read that I had a

1025
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: big old smile on my face. Okay, let's talk to Barry. Hey, Barry,

1026
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: how you doing?

1027
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: Hello, Barry, can you hear me?

1028
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 10: Okay, yes, sir, great. My question is and it relates

1029
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 10: to your guests last hour. Yeah, and to women who

1030
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 10: called about Cincinnati's Staseball.

1031
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1032
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 10: It Does the city of Cincinnati plan to actually do

1033
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 10: something real about the violent crime problem that it has

1034
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 10: every summer those year? Are they going to continue to

1035
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 10: cater to the violent crime class?

1036
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: That's a really good ques question, you know. The honest

1037
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: answer is I don't know. However, having said that, that

1038
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: thing I was just talking about where CPD.

1039
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Came down like a ton of bricks on.

1040
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: Those idiots that stage those what they referred to as

1041
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: car shows, where they endangered just about everyone, And I

1042
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: was so happy to read that many they weren't messing

1043
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: around with that. So I guess I'm cautiously optimistic that

1044
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: we're going to see more of that stuff.

1045
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 10: Okay, I'm just kind of concerned that, you know, the

1046
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 10: city is shooting itself in the foot by catering to

1047
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 10: the wrong people.

1048
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: No question about it, Barrett.

1049
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 10: And I'm trying to keep that as nurse as possible.

1050
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: No, and I get that, I do, I do. Hey,

1051
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, but I got to move on here. Okay,

1052
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: thank you. Hey, we got to take a break for

1053
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: a little bit and we'll be back. Mike Allen, Saturday

1054
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: Midday Meatty Thomas.

1055
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 15: Patty's dream was to be a movie star, but after years,

1056
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 15: her dream was going nowhere. She was ready to give up.

1057
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 15: Then she started listening to my show. She heard the

1058
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 15: latest news and financial information, inspiring guest. Patty didn't become

1059
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 15: a star, she became the highest paid agent in Hollywood,

1060
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 15: raking in that fifteen percent from all of her star clients.

1061
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 16: Patty Thomas another Tom Brenneman's success story.

1062
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: I need an agent, and I wonder why she hasn't

1063
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: called back. Begin your own success story with Tom Brenneman.

1064
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 16: Monday morning at five am on seven hundred WLW. We

1065
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 16: offered the biggest stars from all genres of music you

1066
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 16: loved listening to all year.

1067
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: Law Oh man, this great song ring a fire and

1068
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: you'll know who it is. Well, there's no mistake. Johnny Cash.

1069
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, we are back and I have a little

1070
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: time to talk about something that I wanted to talk

1071
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more at length about. But I gotta

1072
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: let you know about this most you probably already know.

1073
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: And you know, if I were going to have a

1074
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: title for this mini rant, it would be the cops

1075
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: did their part, Now the courts need to do theirs.

1076
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm talking about what I talked about with a caller

1077
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: just before the situation with the Cincinnati Police Department about

1078
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: I think it's about two weeks ago with this street

1079
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: takeover that they had, and they have those things downtown frequently.

1080
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: I lived down there for about ten years and I

1081
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: could hear them right under my window and it's incredibly dangerous,

1082
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: incredibly bothersome to the people that have to put up

1083
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: with it. CPD, God love them, came down like a

1084
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: clap of thunder on this thing.

1085
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a weekend before last.

1086
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: David Ferrara in the Cincinnati Enquired did a great article

1087
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: if you want to read up on it. Cincinnati police

1088
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: arrested thirty nine people and towed sixty five cars during

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Speaker 2: a street takeover event. And I'll tell you something that's

1090
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: something that doesn't happen every day. A group of about

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: one hundred drivers performed stunts and block traffic at several

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01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: locations across the city. And this just wasn't all downtown,

1093
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: It was all over the city. Many of the drivers

1094
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: involved were from outside Cincinnati, including Dayton and Columbus. Most

1095
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: of those arrested faced misdemeanor street racing charges. And I

1096
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: hadn't seen that statute. I didn't even know it was there.

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01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: It's relatively new, about a year ago. So misdemeanor one,

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: which means the maximum possible penalty is one hundred and

1099
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: eighty days, one thousand dollars, finding cost or both. And

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01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: you know each case is different. I get that, but boy,

1101
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: there better be some jail.

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01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: Time out of this thing. Again.

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01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: The cops really, I think made a statement here. Whether

1104
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: that was the purpose of it or not, I think

1105
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: they certainly did.

1106
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: This is interesting too, police said.

1107
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: The group then drove towards the border of the East

1108
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: End ann Lynnwood off of kell Agga Avenue. The drivers

1109
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: attempted another takeover in the parking lot of Riverfront Live,

1110
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: the music venue where nine people were shot earlier this month,

1111
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: but were unsuccessful again. You know, I think they're trying

1112
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: to send a message there the people that are involved

1113
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: in this that hey, City of Cincinnati, Cincinnati cops, we'll

1114
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: do it wherever we want, whenever they want. Well, you

1115
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: know what, there's sixty five of them now that probably

1116
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: singing a different tune. And this is how it comes down.

1117
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: This is how it happens. Again, getting back to mister

1118
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: Ferrars story in the inquiry, acting on timely intelligence, officers

1119
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: were deployed proactively.

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: How many times have you heard that come out of

1121
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: my mouth?

1122
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: Were deployed proactively to the area and successfully discouraged the activity.

1123
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: And that's exactly exactly what happened. And you talk about proactive.

1124
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: Story goes on to say police deployed stopsticks in the

1125
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: parking lot of Woodward High School. See that's what I mean.

1126
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: It goes all over the city. Let me read the

1127
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: rest of it. I'll just read it all again. Police

1128
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: deployed stopsticks in the parking lot of Woodward High School,

1129
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: slashing the tires of an eighteen year old. Eighteen year

1130
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: old's car as police say he fled to free he

1131
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: tried to flee, I'm sorry. According to arresting documents. That's

1132
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't mean maliciously destroyed property just

1133
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: for the sake of doing it.

1134
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: They needed to do that. And again they.

1135
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: Charged thirty nine people towed sixty five cars during this thing.

1136
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: Just a little bit more. Nearly all of the thirty

1137
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: nine people are charged with misdemeanor street racing. Arrest documents

1138
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: show police have requested bonds of around two thousand dollars

1139
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: for most people in custody, And you know what, I

1140
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: think the police are being generous with that. Again, every

1141
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: case is different, every defendant is different. But I don't know.

1142
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I sat on that bench one time. At

1143
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: one time, I think I might be inclined to give

1144
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: it a little bit more. And you know, we don't

1145
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: know what the bonds are. Someone maybe signal ninety nine

1146
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: should hands the time, should look into that. And they're

1147
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: thirty nine cases. I can't follow all thirty nine of them.

1148
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: But I'm going to try to find kind of a

1149
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: test case, if you will, about that, and you know,

1150
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: just keep an eye on it. Cincinnati police have taken

1151
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: action during street takeovers before, but mass arrests like this

1152
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: are unheard of in recent years. Again, I don't want

1153
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: to blow my own horn, but this is exactly what

1154
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: I've been saying for the last ten years.

1155
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: They got to do stuff like this, and I haven't.

1156
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Heard any outwailing or you know, crying and complaining from

1157
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: any community about this, so apparently the citizens are fed

1158
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: up with it as well. That statute that I was

1159
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: talking about that the police charged under, it's section forty

1160
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: five eleven two five to one. It's entitled street racing,

1161
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: and the thing describes street racing because you know, if

1162
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: you're going to prosecute the case, you got to know

1163
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: what the elements are.

1164
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: It defines it.

1165
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the definition because it's a

1166
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: very comprehensive definition and it has to be. They define

1167
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: the term burnout. I bet nowhere in the revised code

1168
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: is this word used at all. They define the term donut,

1169
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: they define drifting, wheally, stunt driving, street takeover, and it's

1170
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: a very very I've been a critical of the legislature

1171
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: for some of the stuff that they write. This is

1172
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: a very well written and comprehensive statute and CPD, God

1173
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: love them, put it to use a couple weekends ago,

1174
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: and I congratulate and thank them. Hey, we got to

1175
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: take a break. But when we get back, and I'm

1176
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: going to ask him about this. We're going to talk

1177
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: to former Cincinnati City councilman, former chair of the Law

1178
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: and Safety Committee, Christopher Smithman.

1179
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: We haven't talked to him for a while. We're gonna

1180
01:07:59,280 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: catch up with him.

1181
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: We get back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, the third and

1182
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: final hour of Saturday Midday. Well, this came out about

1183
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: a week or so ago. A I wouldn't call it

1184
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: a poll, It's more of a survey. Cincinnatian's opinion of

1185
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: the city drops and one of the council members said,

1186
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: not good results. Here to talk about that and other

1187
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: issues is the former Vice mayor of the City of

1188
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and former chair of the Law and Public Safety

1189
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: subcouncil part Christopher Smitheman. Christopher, I understand you're a little

1190
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: under the weather today. Feel free to bail if you

1191
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: need to, and thank you for calling in.

1192
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 17: Hey, no problem, Mike, thanks for the invitation. And you know,

1193
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 17: one of the things I want everybody to know is

1194
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 17: that you and I are betting on the city, meaning

1195
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 17: I want the city to be successful. I want our

1196
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 17: current mayor and council to be successful and the core

1197
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 17: of our city, it's the heartbeat of the entire region,

1198
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 17: and so it's very, very very important that they turn

1199
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 17: these numbers around. Some of the first steps they have

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 17: to take might is they've got to start going to

1201
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 17: roll calls. You got to start doing ride alongs. They've

1202
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 17: got to start going to all picnics and holiday things

1203
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 17: that our officers are doing to get to know them.

1204
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 17: They've got to go to their graduations, when they graduate

1205
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 17: their recruit classes. They've got to send a message that

1206
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 17: they are supportive of our law enforcement and law enforcement

1207
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 17: is under attack our peace officers across the entire country.

1208
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 17: And why this is important, this is your front line.

1209
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 17: And so as the weather warms, people come out more activity,

1210
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 17: which means typically more crime. And if we're going to

1211
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 17: get a hold of the banks, specifically Dora where people

1212
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 17: can walk around and have beers during the reds and

1213
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 17: bangles and all that stuff, or we're going to have

1214
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,959
Speaker 17: things on Fountain Square, we've got to have proactive policing,

1215
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 17: Mike Allen, and we've got to make amends. This council

1216
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 17: has got to make amends with the FOP, with the

1217
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 17: police department sending a clear message that they support them.

1218
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 17: And if they know that, they're going to be making

1219
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 17: some split second decisions out here, and while they're making those,

1220
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 17: they're not going to jump any conclusions under pressure, throwing

1221
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 17: those officers under the bus. Officers need to know, Mike,

1222
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 17: that they're supported, and if they do that, these officers

1223
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 17: will do the best shot they can. They'll turn those

1224
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 17: numbers around, and the perception that the city is safe

1225
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 17: will turn with it.

1226
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen. And I don't know if

1227
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: you saw it. I suspect you probably did. You know

1228
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: you mentioned proactive policing, and I am so proud of

1229
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Police Department for what they did a couple

1230
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: of weekends ago with this so called street takeover. You

1231
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: talk about aggressive, Christopher, thirty nine people were toad sixty five, No,

1232
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: thirty nine people were arrested. Sixty five cars were towed

1233
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: during this takeover event. And you know, I'm not tooting

1234
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: my own horn, but this is what I've been saying

1235
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: four years. They need to do things like this, and

1236
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: they need to know that they will get backing if

1237
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: somebody complains that in a way that's not appropriate I

1238
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: just think I was so happy when I read that.

1239
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

1240
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 17: No, it's exactly what has to happen. My head goes

1241
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 17: almost to the command staff and to all the police department.

1242
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 17: My hat goes off to the mayor, the manager, members

1243
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 17: of the city council. I think collectively all of them

1244
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 17: get a win. It's exactly what we need to see

1245
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 17: happening if we're going to turn around parts of our

1246
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 17: fifty two neighborhoods, that proactive action so that we are

1247
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 17: not allowing people like we're seeing in DC right now,

1248
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 17: these teenagers who are taking over the streets, because once

1249
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 17: you do that, you lose complete control. And you all

1250
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 17: know that broken window theory that we talk about, these

1251
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 17: smaller things end up being bigger things, so you get

1252
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 17: in front of it. I think this was a great action.

1253
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 17: I'm sure it was in great collaboration with many different

1254
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 17: law enforcement departments. Kudos to them, and I absolutely agree.

1255
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 17: I just want to also extend the win for the

1256
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 17: mayor and for all members of council and the manager.

1257
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 17: When they do well, I want to affirm them and say,

1258
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 17: continue to hit in this direction. This is what will

1259
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 17: make Cincinnati good.

1260
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: Well, so far, so good with it.

1261
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any complaints, but boy, I'll tell you what,

1262
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 2: it certainly got my attention. And you know, in this case, Christopher,

1263
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: the cops did their part. Now it's up to the

1264
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: courts to do theirs. And I just hope somebody is

1265
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: going to follow these cases. It's a misdemeanor of the

1266
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 2: first degree, maximum penalty one hundred and eighty days, one

1267
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine and cost or both. I'm not advocating

1268
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: for a maximum sentence unless it's really egregious, but the

1269
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,480
Speaker 2: court system needs to send a message now I think.

1270
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 17: No, I agree. I mean the voters of Cincinnati. I'm

1271
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 17: going to jump ahead of that. You're send the message

1272
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 17: meaning these judges are elected, yep, and we have got

1273
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 17: to make sure, no matter whether you're a Democrat or

1274
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 17: Republican or an independent or a libertarian, that you are

1275
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 17: electing judges that are fair and fair means when someone

1276
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 17: takes a life, I'm going to another extreme. That's not

1277
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 17: what we're talking about in this case. That we're not

1278
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 17: getting fifty thousand dollars bonds. That doesn't make sense. It

1279
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 17: disconnects and it creates a tremendous amount of fear because

1280
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 17: it makes people believe if I come forward and I'm testifying,

1281
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 17: they don't want to see the shooter on the street

1282
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 17: MIC the next day. That's incredibly dangerous. You can't get

1283
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 17: a witness to step up, if a judge can't even

1284
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 17: keep them in jail, that's just common sense.

1285
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: Wow.

1286
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 17: So I say that to you that yes, this is

1287
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 17: a this is a broken windows theory. We go out

1288
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 17: to the small stuff. Some might not even view taking

1289
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 17: over streets of small stuff. So I don't want to

1290
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 17: downplay it, but I love the police action and I

1291
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 17: want to affirm what you're saying. If our judges in

1292
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 17: this county don't get on top of not letting people

1293
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 17: out when they do bad things, is the wrong message

1294
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 17: to our police officers who do the work and do

1295
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 17: the arrest, and then our judges don't back them up.

1296
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: You know, As you know, Christopher, I lived downtown for

1297
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: over ten years and when it happened, and what happened

1298
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: when I lived there, it wasn't as bad as this

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: thing was. But you know, it's incredibly dangerous. I mean,

1300
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: somebody could get seriously injured or killed. And I just

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: hope someone hintens Signal ninety nine keeps an eye on

1302
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: these cases to make sure the judges are doing what

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01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: they need to do. And that's all I have to

1304
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,799
Speaker 2: say about that. Hey, I wanted to ask, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 17: Go ahead, No, I just want to just pivot and

1306
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 17: just say Chief Michael Washington had a heck of a

1307
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 17: hearing this way, Yes, tell us about that. Well, essentially,

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 17: there was there were arguments made before three judges regarding

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 17: the immunity of the city manager. So a lower court

1310
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 17: has said not only is the city on the book,

1311
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 17: Mike Allen, but also Sheryl Long personally is.

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 4: Correct.

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 17: I think the judges are in. The judge at the

1314
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 17: lower level is signaling this was so egregious, right, the

1315
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 17: decision making was so egregious, and that that it's gonna

1316
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 17: We're not going to extend that immunity to the city

1317
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 17: manager nor the city. I hope the city leaders who

1318
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 17: are listening to this resolved this. It's been three years.

1319
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 17: They're gonna lose. It's costing us more and more money,

1320
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 17: and the more they agitate the process, the larger the

1321
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 17: bill it's gonna be. And this is true for Chief

1322
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 17: stigis on the police side. We're paying for two police

1323
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 17: chiefs right now, one on administrative lea and one who

1324
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 17: is there running the police department. That that kind of

1325
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 17: uncertainty going in to the summer is not good, Mike Allen.

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 17: We've got to resolve the command staff within the police department.

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 17: And making sure that we resolve this means that we

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 17: have to deal with Chief DG and what occurred.

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: It was a bad.

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 17: Decision from the administration. It's going to cost us millions

1331
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,480
Speaker 17: of dollars. But we cannot have our police department distracted.

1332
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 17: I don't want our fire department distract it. These are

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01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 17: things that we've got to resolve. If they can give

1334
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 17: eight point one million the people who were downtown during

1335
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 17: the riots, then they can certainly turn around and resolve

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 17: the police and the fire department employment issues. So this

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01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 17: is the frustration because it continues. It's in the message

1338
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 17: Mike Allen that they aren't supportive of law enforcement. What

1339
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 17: they did TODG was wrong, what they did the Chief

1340
01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 17: Washington was wrong. Mike Allen, and the lower court and

1341
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 17: out in here said you brought me a blank sheet

1342
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 17: of paper, meaning both of these professionals they don't have

1343
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 17: one written write up in thirty years. No exaggeration. There's

1344
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 17: nothing there. Frost, Brown and Todd has come back. There's

1345
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 17: nothing here. People. You're just trying to bury Chief DG

1346
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 17: when there's nothing there. This is the kind of stuff

1347
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 17: that creates the uncertainty, which doesn't help our officers do

1348
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 17: their job this summer.

1349
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, I really appreciate you bearing up for us.

1350
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: Always enjoy our talks and go get some rest.

1351
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 17: Yeah, my people can follow me on X and I

1353
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 17: like this because in between these interviews I put information

1354
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 17: up on X and so they can follow me. It's

1355
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 17: at vote Smitherman, and I just want to encourage people

1356
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 17: to continue to follow me throughout the week.

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, all right, my friend, thank you. All right.

1358
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: Christopher Smitheman, boy, I'll tell you what on these city issues.

1359
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 2: On allways, but especially the city issues. We get a

1360
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: perspective from Christopher. You're not going to get anywhere else.

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01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: You're certainly not going to get it from any member

1362
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: of council. And although I don't either work or live

1363
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: in the city anymore, I think it's still very important. Hey,

1364
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: we got to take a short break, but we'll be

1365
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: back Mike Allen Saturday midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen,

1366
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: Saturday midday. Well, i'll tell you what, I don't know

1367
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: how you feel about it. It was great to talk to

1368
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman to get his take on these issues in

1369
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: the city, because you're not going to get that take

1370
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: anywhere else. You know.

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01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: We kind of ended at early.

1372
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: I could tell that he was struggling a little bit,

1373
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: although he said, no, let's do the whole thing, but

1374
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: just a couple of things I wanted to point out

1375
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to talk to him about.

1376
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: We kind of briefly mentioned this poll or survey that

1377
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: was done by a Kansas based etc. Institute. I got

1378
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 2: it on the got on their website. They appear to

1379
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: be a very credible national organization. They have a section

1380
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: for community engagement and one of it one of the

1381
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: subtopics are is resident satisfaction.

1382
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, what I do is you probably already know.

1383
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: Whenever I see a poll, I try to find the

1384
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 2: sample size. On this one, it's one thousand, two hundred

1385
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: and thirty four. Now that's not a real large sample. However,

1386
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: I think at least in general, it gives you an

1387
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: idea in this poll what people in the city are thinking,

1388
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: and let me just kind of give you the high

1389
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: points on this thing. A recent survey show is a

1390
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 2: significant drop in Cincinnati residence satisfaction with the city's image

1391
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: and quality of life. Residents ranked road this is interesting.

1392
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: Ranked road and sidewalk maintenance as the most important city service,

1393
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: but were least satisfied with it. Feelings of public safety

1394
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: have declined, with satisfaction levels lower than incomparable large cities.

1395
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: That's not good, obviously, Despite concerns, residents expect expressed high

1396
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: satisfaction with services like trash pickup, parks and the fire department.

1397
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess kind of a mixed peg.

1398
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 2: But I'd be interested to know what other cities rank

1399
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: sidewalk in street repairs as the most important city service

1400
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: other than public safety. I would agree with them, and frankly,

1401
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 2: I think the city does a horrible job with it.

1402
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 2: Apparently they upgraded quite a bit from last year. But boy,

1403
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: when you got one two hundred and thirty four residents

1404
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: of the city saying that road and sidewalk maintenance is

1405
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: the most important issue. If I were an elected official,

1406
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: if I were the mayor or a city council member.

1407
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: You better believe I would get on that. That that's surprising.

1408
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 2: I would think it would have been public safety. But again,

1409
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: according to this survey, feelings of public safety have declined,

1410
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: with satisfaction levels lower than incomparable large cities. And then

1411
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: it contradicts itself again. Despite concerns, residents expressed high satisfaction. Okay,

1412
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: this is a specific high satisfaction with services like trash

1413
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: pick up parks and a fire department. So you know,

1414
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,839
Speaker 2: a mixed bag, but overall not good. And Scott Wortman

1415
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: in the entire in the inquiry, and I know the

1416
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: reporters don't make the headlines, but the headline is Cincinnatian's

1417
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: opinion of the city drops not good results. And we'll

1418
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would have to agree with.

1419
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: Him on that one.

1420
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: Drilling down a little bit, of the two hundred and

1421
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 2: thirty four residents surveyed by email, phone and online in

1422
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: the fall of twenty twenty five, a little less than

1423
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: half forty eight percent were satisfied with the overall quality

1424
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: in life in Cincinnati. And you might say, well, you

1425
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: know what, that's not too bad, but that forty eight

1426
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: percent is down from sixty five percent only two years

1427
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: ago twenty twenty three, So you can see that the

1428
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: city is going in the wrong direction. The largest single

1429
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: drop in perception came with residents overall image of the

1430
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: city dropping from sixty five percent to forty two percent positive.

1431
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Dot know what it was.

1432
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't say what it was before that, But I mean,

1433
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,839
Speaker 2: as you can see, it's not a very high stamp

1434
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 2: of approval. It's not a stamp of approval at all

1435
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: for Cincinnati City Council. Now what they do about it,

1436
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: we'll see you'll get everybody and their brothers saying, well,

1437
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: you can't govern and buy polls, and I agree with that,

1438
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: but you can certainly get an idea of what people

1439
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: are thinking about. One other thing I wanted to get

1440
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: into with Christopher wasn't able to do that.

1441
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. There was a

1442
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: vote down city council way.

1443
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: I think it was five to four for it. It's

1444
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: a reckless vote on eight million dollars for River Bend venue.

1445
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: They said, divide City council five to four vote the

1446
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: closest dividing it as you can. You know the city

1447
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 2: has a projected thirty five million dollar budget deficit. Why

1448
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: is the city giving eight million dollars for a music

1449
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: venue that I think many would think is.

1450
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: This really needed?

1451
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: I mean, how many music venues do you need in

1452
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,520
Speaker 2: one city? Actually two? I mean you got Northern Kentucky

1453
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 2: right across the river. I guess it was Covington built

1454
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: a new one too. That's what I don't understand. But anyway,

1455
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, when you're staring at a thirty five million

1456
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: dollar deficit, I don't think I'd be spending eight million

1457
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: bucks on a music venue that may not be necessary.

1458
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that. Well,

1459
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: we got opening Day coming up on Thursday. I can't wait.

1460
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: Not going this year, but I know where I will

1461
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: be at four ten when the game starts, a lot

1462
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,879
Speaker 2: of excitement about the Reds this year, and I'm excited

1463
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 2: about them. A couple problem areas that I will discuss

1464
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: with our next guest, who is David Arms, rooster, our

1465
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: go to guy for all things Cincinnati Reds. Mike Allen's

1466
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Hey we're back, and I think you

1467
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 2: know what that means. Baseball is finally back and here

1468
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: to talk about this season.

1469
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: And his thoughts on how it's gonna go.

1470
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: Is our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds related, Dave

1471
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeti arm brewster Y.

1472
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.

1473
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 4: You're welcome.

1474
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 18: Mike from the desert here where yesterday it was one

1475
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 18: five one off.

1476
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: He said, I was gonna ask you. You already told

1477
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 2: me I ask you if you were down there. But wow,

1478
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: that's incredible. And it's been that way pretty much all week,

1479
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: hasn't it. Because I talked to you Saturday, same thing.

1480
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's been. It hasn't been one hundred and five,

1481
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 18: but it's been. It's been hot the entire week. That's

1482
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 18: why they moved the games.

1483
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: You got a good chance.

1484
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 4: Uh no, maybe not.

1485
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: Okay, they moved.

1486
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 4: Are the time. I'm in a booth, I'm not outside.

1487
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: I got you myself, I gotcha.

1488
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been.

1489
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,759
Speaker 18: They moved those two games to last night and tonight

1490
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 18: to night games because the temperatures is too hot most

1491
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 18: I think, mostly probably for the fans more than anything,

1492
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 18: because it is steamy sitting in a ballpark watching the

1493
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 18: baseball game at three in the afternoon.

1494
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, at one hundred and one degrees. You're absolutely right. Yes,

1495
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: opening day on Thursday.

1496
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1497
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: You just in general and I'll have some specific things,

1498
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 2: but what are you thinking about this season?

1499
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: It sure seems like there's a lot of excitement.

1500
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 18: Uh, there is a lot of excitement, and I think

1501
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 18: this team will play well.

1502
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: You know, I still think.

1503
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 18: Right around eighty five wins something like that, depending And

1504
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 18: the big thing, Mike, and it's always the biggest thing,

1505
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 18: is health. Sure they stay healthy, especially at the pitching staff,

1506
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 18: stay healthy, and they are already lost un green for

1507
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 18: half the year. If they stay healthy, this team can compete.

1508
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 18: The problem becomes if you don't stay healthy, then it's

1509
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 18: a depth issue. And unless you're the LA Dodgers, that's

1510
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 18: a real problem. Especially in the pitching department. You just

1511
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 18: don't have You don't have enough in the minor leagues

1512
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 18: to bring up or old veterans to bring up something

1513
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 18: like that. So health is a big thing. But overall,

1514
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 18: I think this has been a good spring for this team.

1515
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 18: I think they look good. I want to see them

1516
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 18: get off to a really hot start. You know, these games,

1517
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 18: games in April, they count the same as games in September.

1518
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 18: You have to win them, absolutely, And I also think

1519
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 18: that this is It's it's like now, the time has

1520
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 18: to be now. You have to play every game like

1521
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 18: that game really matters, you know, for you to make

1522
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 18: the playoffs and go deep in the playoffs, because we

1523
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 18: don't know what next year brings. You know, there may

1524
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 18: not even be a sea and there's certainly doesn't sound

1525
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 18: like there'll be a spring training next year.

1526
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: So I think the winning is now.

1527
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 18: I don't know, you know, at the end of this year,

1528
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 18: you may not have any au Haano Suarez.

1529
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 4: Again, he may be got.

1530
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 18: It's just I just think you have to do everything

1531
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 18: in your power to win games.

1532
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 4: This year. Right now is the time to win.

1533
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: Agreed. Boy, he looked good Suarez in the WBC, don't

1534
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: you think.

1535
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: Oh you are great?

1536
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 18: Great, the big hit in the ninth inning, and you know,

1537
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 18: came back to the team yesterday and played last night,

1538
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 18: got a hit on a walk, I believe. And he is,

1539
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 18: you know, he's ready to go. I think he's tired, yeah,

1540
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 18: but he's ready to go for the season. And you'll

1541
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 18: see him in the lineup I'm sure every game until

1542
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 18: opening day, Okay, but he is, you know, and he's

1543
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 18: going to help this team because he's exactly what they need.

1544
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 18: He needed about to hit behind Ali. We've talked about

1545
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 18: that before, and you need a guy who can come

1546
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 18: up with a clutch hit when you need him, and

1547
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 18: he proved that in the WBC with that hit in.

1548
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: The ninth inning. So I think, you know, he's a

1549
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 4: big key to this team this year.

1550
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 18: And between him and Ellie, yeah, they're going to strike

1551
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 18: out a bunch because I think between them last year

1552
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 18: they struck out something like three hundred and eighty times.

1553
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 4: So it's going to happen.

1554
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 18: But he's going to have you know, you're probably going

1555
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 18: to get the big hits out of him now as well,

1556
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 18: and that's what you need.

1557
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: Hey, I read on somebody's plugged that Ellie. He's kind

1558
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: of muscled up in the offseason and you know, put

1559
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: some muscle on.

1560
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that or have you heard?

1561
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks good. Yeah, he certainly. Yeah, he certainly has,

1562
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 4: and he looks good.

1563
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 18: He can uh you know, looks stronger better, you know,

1564
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 18: But that's more of a thing for long.

1565
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 4: You know, for the whole season.

1566
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 18: So you don't get you don't get nicked up, you

1567
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 18: don't get tired when the dog days of summer but

1568
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 18: I think he's Yeah, he looks great, and he's he's

1569
01:30:59,120 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 18: looked good in spring train.

1570
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 4: He really has. He's played well good.

1571
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you somebody that I don't think has

1572
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 2: pitched well in spring training. And I don't mean to

1573
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 2: be Debbie Downer at all. I mean, the guy's an

1574
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 2: all star. But you know I looked this morning Andrew Abbott,

1575
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: eer of thirteen point eighty five.

1576
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's.

1577
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: Only spring training, but man, that's got to be of

1578
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: some concern, don't you think.

1579
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 18: Well, they can say it's not a concern because it's

1580
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 18: spring training and it's practice, and I agree with.

1581
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 4: That to some extent.

1582
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 18: But he pitches tonight and it would be really nice

1583
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 18: to see him have a good out, yeah, because this

1584
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 18: is his last start before the opener.

1585
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 4: And I agree with you. He doesn't look good. He

1586
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 4: doesn't look great.

1587
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 18: I couldn't pinpoint what it is, but yeah, he needs

1588
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 18: to go out tonight and have a good outing. Probably

1589
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 18: pitch five, maybe even six innings, depending on pitch count,

1590
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 18: but that's you know, he's thrown a lot of pitches

1591
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 18: in short outings and last time he gave up eight runs.

1592
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, that has got to improve.

1593
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 18: You're one hundred percent correct, that has to improve, and

1594
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 18: it has to improve.

1595
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 4: Starting tonight. Nick Lodolo will pitch Game two.

1596
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 18: And he's looked good his last start, he looked really good,

1597
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 18: which I was yesterday or two days ago, so we'll see.

1598
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 18: But yeah, you're I think there's some legitimate concern there.

1599
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 18: You don't expect as early starts to be all that

1600
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 18: good and you don't really care about the numbers because

1601
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 18: guys are working on stuff.

1602
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:36,799
Speaker 4: But tonight matters.

1603
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 18: Tonight matters that he has a good outing because again,

1604
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 18: when he gets the ball on Thursday, that's opening day

1605
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 18: and he counts for real.

1606
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously they're going to stick with that. But yeah,

1607
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 2: it would be interesting to see. I mean, whatever's bugging him.

1608
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: I hope he gets the kinks worked out before opening day. However,

1609
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: on the other side, I did this guy's just incredible.

1610
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 2: Matt McClain forty eight at bats, seven home runs, sixteen

1611
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 2: RBIs a five four to two batting average.

1612
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,879
Speaker 15: I mean that is insane, It is insane.

1613
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 4: The guy is, He's unbelievable.

1614
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 18: I wish he would have got you know, not hit

1615
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 18: so well, because I'd rather had him hit well in

1616
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 18: the in the regular season as things go on. But yeah, no,

1617
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 18: he's he is. If there's an MVP of spring training,

1618
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 18: it's Matt McClain. He has played great and we talked

1619
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 18: about this early on in the spring. What he's done

1620
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 18: a lot of and it's something they wanted him to do,

1621
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 18: is go to right field. He's pull or pushing the

1622
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 18: ball the other way on a regular basis, and he

1623
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 18: really looks good and said I never expected him. That's

1624
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 18: seven RB or seven home runs and sim training, but

1625
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 18: there he is. He's done it, and it solves a

1626
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 18: lot of problems with him hitting. He's your number two hitter.

1627
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 18: He bats in front of Ellie and with Suarez hitting

1628
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 18: behind Ellie, Ellie's going to see some pitches to hit now.

1629
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 18: And let's make no mistake about it. Elie's the star

1630
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 18: of this team. He's your MVP, and you know you

1631
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 18: want to give him the most opportunities to do damage.

1632
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 18: And I think with those guys hitting before and after him,

1633
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 18: that's exactly what's going to happen.

1634
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 4: Matt mcclean's look great.

1635
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: There's no question about just unbelievable.

1636
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, it might be a record I don't know,

1637
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: but again spring training, but boy, impressive. Hey, what is

1638
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 2: the deal with Nathaniel Lowe? I guess he's a non

1639
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: roster player that looks like he may be signed.

1640
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: What's the deal on that?

1641
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 18: Well, I mean that's going to come down, and I

1642
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 18: think Francona said that we may not know it today,

1643
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 18: but I think he's going to make the final roster

1644
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 18: decisions sometime today when the players come in for their

1645
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 18: workouts before the game tonight. And you're right, Nathaniel Lowe,

1646
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 18: it's going to come down to him, JJ Bleda and

1647
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 18: and Reese Hines. I don't think Reese Hines is going

1648
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 18: to make this team, although you can make an argument

1649
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 18: that he should because he's looked good this spring and

1650
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 18: he's got some pop in his bat. JJ Bleday, hiss

1651
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 18: look good. He has really played well coming off a

1652
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 18: poor season with the Athletics. And you're right, though he

1653
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 18: is on the roster or he is on the forty man,

1654
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 18: Low is not, so they have to make they have

1655
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 18: to do some manipulation with the roster to get low

1656
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 18: on this team if they want to keep him.

1657
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm really at this point, Mike, I don't know which

1658
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 4: way are going to go.

1659
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 18: I don't know if they're going to keep bla day

1660
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 18: or if they're going to keep Nathaniel low I think

1661
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 18: low the one advantage to him as he's an older player.

1662
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 18: He's a former Gold Glove first baseman. But this team

1663
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 18: has a bunch of first basemen and dhs. But the

1664
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 18: one thing Nathaniel Lowe can do is come off the

1665
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 18: betch and hit for this team. If you need a

1666
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 18: home run late in the game, I think he's your guy.

1667
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 18: So I would imagine, not one hundred percent sure, but

1668
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 18: I would imagine by game time tonight, we'll know where

1669
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 18: Nathaniel low stands.

1670
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 4: And this has not been.

1671
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 18: Public or anything, but a lot of times these guys

1672
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 18: that sign these minor league contracts, if they're not told

1673
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 18: they're on the big league team, they can get out

1674
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 18: of their contract and he can go find a job elsewhere.

1675
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 18: And you know that may happen. And I'm sure that

1676
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 18: goes into the thinking with the Reds as well.

1677
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 2: Isn't it rare in baseball that a non roster in

1678
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 2: byt actually makes the twenty sixth roster cut.

1679
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't think it's rare. I think

1680
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 4: it happens.

1681
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 18: A bunch of guys don't do it, but I think

1682
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 18: it happens every year on a team or two, especially

1683
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 18: a guy like Low because he's older player. He's older now,

1684
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 18: he's thirty years old. You don't see the teams. Teams

1685
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 18: have figured out. And that's the one thing Analytics has

1686
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 18: done is that you don't see a lot of thirty

1687
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 18: one thirty two year old position players on teams anymore.

1688
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 18: Not stars. I'm talking about, you know, your backup players,

1689
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 18: because Analytics has said the younger guys at the end

1690
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 18: of the day, dude, the exact same thing, gotcha. I

1691
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 18: kind of disagree with that because I want somebody that's

1692
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 18: been there a while and has been in situations in

1693
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 18: big games and pressure situations in the postseason and all

1694
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 18: that to be on that team.

1695
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 4: But it's not as rare as you might think.

1696
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: It is.

1697
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 4: A lot of that.

1698
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 18: It's just a contract deal, you know, that's the only

1699
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 18: way you can get him, and teams don't want to

1700
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 18: clear space on their forty man until they're sure the

1701
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 18: guy can make the team.

1702
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll tell you what.

1703
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 2: A lot of people looking forward to Thursday, I'm one

1704
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 2: of them.

1705
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 17: Are you going to be there.

1706
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 4: Did you buy a ticket?

1707
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no.

1708
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 2: I will be listening to it on the Home of

1709
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: the Reds seven hundred WLW.

1710
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 4: Good, I've trained you well. Good answer.

1711
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: Hey, one more thing real quick here, and I sent

1712
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 2: that article from the Wall Street Journal to you. I

1713
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 2: don't know, this just doesn't sound good to me. The headline,

1714
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 2: major League Baseball steps into prediction markets strikes a deal

1715
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: with poly market. That's the deal, yid where you bet

1716
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 2: on one damn thing, whether the pitcher picks up the

1717
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: rubber or whatever. I just think baseball is going down

1718
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 2: a real shaky path here.

1719
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:23,759
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1720
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know you sent that to me.

1721
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 18: I read up on it and is it's fairly complicated,

1722
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 18: although it's it really comes down to a yes or

1723
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 18: no question, will you know? It's I think the example

1724
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,839
Speaker 18: I read at one point, where will these two teams

1725
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,480
Speaker 18: meet in the finals of the NBA, you know finals,

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Speaker 18: Yes or no? And you bet on that, and that's

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Speaker 18: that's the odds, that's how they set the odds.

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Speaker 4: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 18: I think that's going down a slippery slope that has

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Speaker 18: which that they've already I mean, they've already crossed over

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Speaker 18: to the dark side. There's no question of about that

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Speaker 18: micro at this point. It's all about the jack you know.

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Speaker 18: I know, I'm sure it's a big it's a big

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Speaker 18: money deal. I'm sure. And this is this is what

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Speaker 18: you get. I mean, when you decide to go that way,

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Speaker 18: it's not going to stop at this point. I just

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Speaker 18: but I don't like it either, because you're they've already

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Speaker 18: dealt with, you know, some some gambling issues with players

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Speaker 18: and uh it's throwing games and that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 18: and I just I just think it's a bad way

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Speaker 18: to go, but it is, you know, they want the.

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Speaker 2: Money, and I get that kind of hypocritical though. I mean,

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Speaker 2: for all these years, oh yeah, going back to Shoeless

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Speaker 2: Joe and the Black Sox. Now, yeah, any any way

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Speaker 2: they can make a buck with it. I think in

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Speaker 2: coming years, I hope I'm not right about this. I

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Speaker 2: think I might be. In coming years they're going to

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Speaker 2: regret this. Hey, listen, we are out of time yet,

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Speaker 2: really looking forward to talking to you again.

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Speaker 1: This season much appreciated.

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Speaker 18: And the next time we talk, it'll already have a

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Speaker 18: regular season game under our belt.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully that is a win.

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Speaker 18: Hopefully Andrew Abitt goes about seven innings and gives up.

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Speaker 4: I'll run on two hits.

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Speaker 1: There you go, buddy, all right, thanks.

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Speaker 4: You ed, you got it. Mike see all right, yeah, you.

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