1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: the Voice of Boston WRKO. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Joining me now as she always does at this time, 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place. Grace Woto full disclosure. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm married up. She's my better half, my wonderful wife, Grace. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: I've got to ask you right out of the gate. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to jump the gun, but it looks 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: now like this is turning into a route in a sense, 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: almost a humiliation for the Mullah's and for the Iranian military. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: They are being absolutely annihilated. And it's only the fourth day. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: We are looking at two thousand targets hit. Their air 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: defense is smashed. Iran now is effectively fighting blind, deaf, 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: and dumb, and the regime may be coming to an end, 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: and it may be to an end by the end 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: of the week, which would exceed anyone's expectations. Your reaction, 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: thank you so. 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Much for having me on. This is a really historic moment. 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: And you know my reaction is I could care less. 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: We've seen this movie before. And do you remember, in 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: all those years that we lived in Washington, DC, I 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: came up with this term called mutant speak. People go 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: to Washington, DC and they no longer speak clear English. 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: So we were told we were promised no new wars. 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: But now, according to the new mutants, no new wars 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: actually means bombing other countries. It's okay if it's short. 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: We were told no regime change. Now we're told that 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: actually is okay if it's only a partial removal of 28 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: a leader. We were told we're not going to arm Ukraine. 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: Now we're being told, okay, it's okay to arm Ukraine 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: as long as the Europeans pay for it. More mutants. 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: We were told no two tier system of justice. But 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: when it comes to Epstein, Ah, okay, the billionaires who 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 3: aren't pedophiles, they can get away with it. We were 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: told math deportations. Now ah, math deportations only in the 35 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Red States. We were told America first, but we have 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: bombed seven countries Venezuela, Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Iraq. 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: We were told no globalism. We have a mineral deal 38 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: in Ukraine last year. We have now promised to reconstruct Gaza, 39 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: not just peace in Gaza, but reconstruct it. We have 40 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: given a security guarantee to Ukraine a security guarantee to Qatar, 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty six, Jeff, we're just in March. Venezuela. 42 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: Greenland was a crisis just a few weeks ago, and 43 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: now here we are in Iran. And in Iran there 44 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: was no preeminent cause. So what do I see here? 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: We have an administration that is full of mutants speak. 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: They do not speak clear English anymore, and many of 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: us who voted for clear policies are getting something completely different. 48 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: And what we are getting is globalism on steroids. Rubio 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: and Lindsey Graham are running this foreign policy and they 50 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: are globalists. They are beaming, they are thrilled. This is 51 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: not America first, this is not what I voted for. 52 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: And he's going to have a big problem on his 53 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: hands because many astute people within MAGA see that there 54 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: is so much mutant speak going on right now. 55 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: Grace, what do you say to the argument that we 56 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: faced an imminent threat in Iran? As Witkoff said on Fox, 57 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: he said they were seven ten days away from breakout, 58 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: that they could they had enriched uranium at sixty percent, 59 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: they could easily convert it to eighty ninety percent, which 60 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: would give him the capability to build He said, not one, 61 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: not two, but eleven bombs, eleven nuclear bombs. With the 62 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: ballistic missile program they had, they could hit Israel, they 63 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: could even hit Rome, Berlin, Paris. That this would give 64 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: the Mullas the ability to blockmail the West, and with 65 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: these crazy Mullahs in power, with their fanatical religious ideology, 66 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: maybe even launch a nuclear war. What In other words, 67 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: Trump had no choice. It was now or never. 68 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: What say you let me speak in clear English boloney. 69 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: We know it's baloney because they told us in the 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: summer that they had quote unquote obliterated here again a 71 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: clear English word, all blitter rated the nuclear program, and 72 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: that this was the most magnificent operation. Oh my gosh, 73 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: we hadn't seen this operation, the greatest of all greatest operations, 74 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: the most extraordinary, because we had all bliterated the program. 75 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: So the two things cannot both be true. And so 76 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: here I am a simple citizen of the United States 77 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: who no longer understands how these people speak. 78 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: Grace in the litany that you laid out, I get 79 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: the sense from you that, obviously you're disappointed in a 80 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: lot of what Trump has done over the last year, 81 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: and a couple months that as a Trump supporter, you feel, 82 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: I think, on one level, betrayed. And so my question 83 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: to you is this, are we seeing in your view 84 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: is Trump? Is this a different Trump in the second 85 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: term than in his first term? Do you feel that 86 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: this is a different presidency? And were you voting for 87 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: the first term and the second term just seems to 88 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: be different than the first term and you're not happy 89 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: about that. I'm just curious where are you coming at 90 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: this from? 91 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, listen, I think that we have to face 92 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: the facts. We have to acknowledge that the Trump of 93 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen is gone. He's gone, He's out of the building. 94 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: This is a whole new President Trump. Now. I support 95 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: him on the border, I think that's still the Trump 96 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen. And I think he's tough on crime 97 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: and that's great. And I think we've had a lot 98 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: of great victories, especially against the woke culture, especially on abortion. 99 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: So look, this president is a heck of a lot 100 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: better than any Democrat, and a heck of a lot 101 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: better than many many Republicans. However, when I cast my 102 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: vote with a lot of enthusiasm in twenty twenty four, 103 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: it was not for globalism, and we have to now 104 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: call it clearly for what it is. There are people 105 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: who still want to support this administration, fine, because they 106 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: just trust and believe in him. But we have to 107 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: speak clear English and say this, you still believe in 108 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: him even if he has completely changed the program, But 109 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: don't tell me that this is not a whole new program. 110 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: Now for me personally, this program has already failed. And 111 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: one of the reasons that we elected a businessman who 112 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: was supposed to be different was because he was not 113 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: going to be a globalist. He was not going to 114 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: be a rhino. But in the second term something went wrong. 115 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: Rubio and Lindsey Graham are in his ear. They have 116 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: transformed his vision of what he is supposed to be doing. 117 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: He has gone along with them, and we see clearly 118 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: that someone like JD. Vance is increasingly less prominent. So 119 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: what does that tell everybody? But the facts are the facts. 120 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: You can't bomb seven countries, and that you can't in 121 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: what we're only March Jack, It's January, February, March. We're 122 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: already in the third country here, this is Venezuela, Greenland, 123 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: and now Iran, this is March fourth. This is a 124 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: globalist presidency, and it's fine for people to say they 125 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: still support it, but it is no longer accurate to 126 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: say that this is anything other than globalism. 127 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Literally one minute, what do you think accounts in your 128 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: view for this change that you're seeing in a Trump 129 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: second term. 130 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: Well, Jack, power corrupts and our founding fathers always knew this. 131 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: And I think what's happened in the second term is 132 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: the president is interested in permanent solutions and elasting legacy, 133 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: and those are two very, very dangerous ideas. As conservatives, 134 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: we don't believe there are permanent solutions because we believe 135 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: every day we have to fight against original sin and 136 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: for a lapsing legacy. We all understand that every single 137 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: you have to fight for what's right and the lasting legacy. 138 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: It's usually the more you go for it, the less 139 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: you get it because you're overreaching. And so I think 140 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: that is what is going on. I think he is 141 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: being pumped. They're telling him you're going to go down 142 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: in history as the greatest of all greats. And this 143 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: is you know, people fall into this hubris that they're 144 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: going to do something better than nobody else ever did. 145 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: And what he doesn't realize is that we didn't vote 146 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: for that. We voted for the simple businessman who speaks 147 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: clear English. 148 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: And to your view, cuts deals and avoids war. I 149 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: hear you, okay, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. 150 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: Grace is not happy. To put it mildly, we could 151 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: rack up all the victories in Iran. She's not happy. 152 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for that call. 153 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: If Jeff doesn't get a day off, this request came 154 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: from his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the 155 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Boys of Boston w RKO