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Speaker 2: Pretty close? Yeah? We are, We're pretty much. I was

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Speaker 3: No good, Well we miss you? Uh in studio? How

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's probably not the worst assignment upgrade.

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Speaker 2: And she was in position to go, and I was

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Speaker 3: Working arrangements Allly Now Ben Gastline starts Tribune start Tribune

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Speaker 1: Well you you say the owners are people of means not.

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Speaker 3: According to the NFL Referees Association, they think the owners

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Speaker 1: Do you do mock drafts?

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Speaker 1: Week seven rounds. Oh, just for the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Just for the Vikings' I'm not one of the the

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Speaker 2: So there'll be something like twenty twenty five names in

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Speaker 1: Who who?

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Speaker 3: You've covered the league for a decade and a half

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Speaker 3: and you're a scribe, do you happen to remember Rick

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Speaker 3: Now that he provided the greatest day of draft mock

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, you're feeling better. Hope to see you in

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Speaker 3: and the potential of.

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Speaker 1: A Bear's boon doggle.

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Speaker 3: Old Chicago Bears the target at which to shoot the

442
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Speaker 3: division champions, beloved BJ on the Fiend. The Bears have

443
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Speaker 3: seven picks in the upcoming draft, included twenty five fifty

444
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Speaker 3: seven and sixty twenty five, fifty seven and sixty. Those

445
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: are plum spots to be in a knee draft. Ever,

446
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: quickly recap at twenty twenty five, just brief recap the

447
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 3: so Ben Johnson becomes the new coach. The fan has

448
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: learned he ruined everything that was Detroit Lions football stuck.

449
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: Frank wragnow two million dollars and goes out and wins

450
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: a division. They took Colston Loveland, Luther Burden the Third.

451
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Speaker 3: Both big timers love Loveland, big timer, Burden the Third

452
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Speaker 3: becoming a big timer and between. So then they get

453
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman. He's a tackle from BC Ozzie Trapillo. He's

454
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Speaker 3: supposed to be a right tackle. They're they're going to

455
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Speaker 3: try to push forward that he can play left tackle,

456
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: but he probably can, growing and maturing and becoming stronger

457
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Eyein's second guessing Ben until it's

458
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: time to second guest Ben. They also took defensive lineman

459
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: Shamar Turner might have played at Texas A and M.

460
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 3: I only played five games last year. I think it

461
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: was around five, ripped up. His ACL wasn't having a

462
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 3: great year, but they love him. They love Shamar Turner

463
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: and seventh rounder sod steal of the draft, Kyle Mnungai,

464
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Speaker 3: the rookie running back Kyle Manunguy. All right, So Loveland,

465
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Speaker 3: Burden and manung Guy. I think they might have combined

466
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 3: for seventeen touchdowns. I mean, when you get three of

467
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Speaker 3: your rookies combining for seventeen touchdowns.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some next level draft polling right there. Not bad,

469
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Speaker 1: all right? So Ben can draft, all right?

470
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: And Ryan Poles he's the general manager, executive vice president

471
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: of everything in the universe with all these titles these days,

472
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: probably even associate head coach. But Ryan Poles obviously has

473
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Speaker 3: a lot to do with it. Soode is Ben Johnson.

474
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: It starts in stops with Ben Johnson. When you get

475
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: that kind of contract for your first year coaching, your

476
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: first year as a head coach, the way he got

477
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: like around thirteen million a year, A Ben can draft,

478
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: So how does he approach it this year? Super deep

479
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: tight ends draft and Ben's gonna leave with no fewer

480
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: than two of them. Just be ready for it, and

481
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 3: we in the NFC Norse should hope he doesn't end

482
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: up with Oregon's Kenyan Sadik And then four to three speed,

483
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: and I'm not kidding you. Hear me out on this Sadik.

484
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: It's starting to feel like Sadik and Theneman are going

485
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Speaker 3: to go in the top ten. People talk about him

486
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: so much. They're steamy, but this Sadiq is, I mean,

487
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: he's super steamy. But like twenty twenty three, deep deep

488
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: deep deep deep tight ends draft. So maybe Beloved Bjay

489
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: has his eyes on a couple will share here momentarily.

490
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Speaker 3: But the premise to the Bears boondoggle. Yeah they have Loveland,

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah they got cole Comett. Yeah, you know, Deandre's swift

492
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: and running game was good. So all those positions are

493
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: off the radar, right, go ahead, go ahead and think

494
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: tight end and running back are off the radar for

495
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Speaker 3: Beloved bj Oh.

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Speaker 4: I think running back is absolutely in that equation. You

497
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: think about swift, you mentioned ann guy and the value

498
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Speaker 4: they get.

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Speaker 1: For one season, I mean, that's best player of it.

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Speaker 4: If Jeremiah loved Jadaion Price, I mean, if they hit

501
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: on either of those, that would not be surprising at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, in the first round, I'll go ahead and bet

503
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Speaker 3: eighty percent of my four h one case. No, yeah, yeah,

504
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: they ain't taking running back in the first round. All right,

505
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: three two. The boondoggle involves the tight end spot. All Right,

506
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: tight ends are of supreme importance to Ben Johnson. Permit

507
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: me to say this for a seventh time, and maybe

508
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: the context actually will be attained by many listening now,

509
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: Colston Lovelan, Cole Commett, Durham Smythe most people were like

510
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 3: Durham Smyth, you didn't do anything in Miami.

511
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Ben's like perfe. We don't have to pay him a lot.

512
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: But when it was some key, key third down runs

513
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: for the Chicago Bears last year, wasn't Loveland, wasn't a

514
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: pulling Braxton Jones, wasn't a pulling Jonah Jackson setting those

515
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: big blocks to get the first down for Swift Romannung Guy,

516
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: it was Durham Smythe all right, durham smythe Davis Allen called,

517
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: and nobody cares until they get that first down on

518
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Speaker 3: you in the clock.

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Speaker 1: He's running.

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Speaker 3: So tight ends are of superreme importance to Ben Johnson.

521
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: There's the boondoggle. Tell he'll use a position specific tight

522
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: end to play a receiver role. Remember they traded DJ

523
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: Moore to Buffalo. They signed Khalif Raymond but my man's

524
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: not a full time wide receiver and Ben Nosen the

525
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: boondoggle is manipulating the tight end market. Get one early

526
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: who can play and a sneaky one late who does

527
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: multiple things. Yeah, I also expected to focus on a

528
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: running back relatively early in the draft. They used free agency.

529
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: Here's part of the boondoggle. Tell they used free agency

530
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: to hammer the defense. They just hammered it. They happen

531
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Speaker 3: to love defensive lineman Shamar Turner, who just played five

532
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: games last year. Didn't have a great start to his season.

533
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: But they don't draft him where they draft him if

534
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: they didn't love him. And they get the benefit of

535
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: the doubt until Shamar Turner proves he can't play.

536
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: So I think he can play. He just got hurt

537
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: last year.

538
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: So you got that with what they did defensively in

539
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: the offseason. By the way, Neville Gallimore, the former Cowboy,

540
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: is one of the strongest defensive line players in the NFL.

541
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: They signed him and everybody knows it. But again Neville Gallimore,

542
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Tom Johnson called and nobody cares until you try to

543
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: run up the middle and he single handedly throws your

544
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: center and guard down at the same time and blows

545
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: up the whole play.

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00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 4: They loved him, Pete Yes, when Gallimore was coming out

547
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: of the draft, Bersage loved Devil Galamore, he loved him

548
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: and he around that same time he loved Alm McNeil

549
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: Aleem McNeil.

550
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: I think he went to NZ State and McNeil.

551
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: Went like the third round, and the analyst was right

552
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: as usual good also beloved. Ben shipped all in on

553
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant from the champion Chickens for the secondary. So

554
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: the boondoggle includes a rare beloved Ben tell of what

555
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: they did in free agency defensively, So therefore, I mean,

556
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: it's just we're playing averages here. You look at certain

557
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: spots in the draft, know what the coach likes, know

558
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: that the coach calls the plays, know what they did

559
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: last year that worked well. And I don't envision the

560
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears being predictable and drafting quote for need or

561
00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: whatever's perceived to be quote best player available. Ben Ben

562
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: drafts for the now in the future like most two,

563
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: but they don't rebuild or reload. They amplify. Ben drafts

564
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: for amplification. Take what is good, take what got good

565
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: that offense, and make it elite.

566
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: I just know that's his mindset.

567
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: This offseason, Ben Johnson will look at two facets of

568
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: the draft with game changers up and down and hone

569
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: in on the right ones tight ends and running backs.

570
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is a free agent after this year. That's important.

571
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: Cole Comet free agent the next year. They can move

572
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: forward without Texas running back Roshan Johnson. Okay, so I

573
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: mean Walter Payton Junior called and nobody answered. Nebraska's Emma

574
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Johnson could be in play in the second round for Chicago.

575
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Remember when I tell you that here are a couple

576
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: of tight ends I'm hoping the amplification plan does not

577
00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: find one. Stanford's Sam Rausch Stanford Sam Rausch and Baylor's

578
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Michael Trigg.

579
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: And here's why.

580
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: Ralsh is six six to sixty seven and plays a

581
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: little like Tucker Kraft when he runs his routes. He's

582
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: the biggest tight end in the draft. He's six' seven,

583
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: man sixty six sixty seven and he doesn't.

584
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Plot when you watch.

585
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: Him.

586
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: Uh major positive with the run game is What ralsh

587
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: is and inline rolls in line rolls as a tight

588
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: end need to be possessed in Beloved ben's, offense and

589
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: that's What ralsh. Does he wants to, run then he

590
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: wants to dagger you down the. Field this guy will

591
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: be a better blocker Than comet And loveland the minute

592
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: he joins the. Team better. Blocker leveling is. Special off the,

593
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: line winning fifty to fifty battles for catches and running

594
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: after the, catch leveling is. SPECIAL i ain't Saying ralsh

595
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: is going to be. Special i'm saying what he does

596
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: fits exactly What ben. Wants And ralsh is a former

597
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: rugby player who can, catch but is AS i, mean

598
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: he's as mean as mean. Gets then you Get Michael

599
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: trigg From baylor reminds my guys Of Cleveland's Harold fannin

600
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Junior Now Harold fannin scored on us last. YEAR i

601
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: think At tottenham both are around six four to two.

602
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: Forty Michael trigg From baylor is a stroke the post

603
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: guy who can Replace comet when they're done with him,

604
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: Again Dj moore's. Gone you don't have to fill the

605
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: void with a. Receiver ben doesn't have to fill that

606
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: void with a receiver because of the quality of tight

607
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: end coming out in the draft this, year SO i

608
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: think the boondoggle here is with tight ends in a

609
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: very deep tight end. Draft When ben was with The

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Speaker 3: lions into the twenty twenty three, draft he and we

611
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Speaker 3: all heard the accolades Surrounding Dalton kincaid and this super

612
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: Fast Luke. Musgrave so he Took sam who ended up

613
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: being the best of them. All Now Tucker kraft went

614
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: in the third round that, year and he's right there With.

615
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Speaker 1: Laporter Now tucker's the.

616
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Speaker 3: Bomb The rams that year took a guy Named Davis

617
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: allen From, clemson did so in the fifth, round and

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00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: pick one seventy five that year played a big role

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Speaker 3: in beating The Minnesota vikings in a playoff game after

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four and again It's Davis. Allen durham

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Speaker 3: smythe called nobody cares until he's knocking you on your

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Speaker 3: butt and protecting in second to non. Fashion so as

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Speaker 3: we go here to, Close TJ's deal ends after this.

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Speaker 3: Year oliver is the more multifaceted of the two in my,

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Speaker 3: estimation and the others on the roster of a lot to.

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Speaker 3: PROVE i think it would do The vikings good to

627
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: find themselves a high end tight end in this year's

628
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Speaker 3: draft and one that can help now and in the.

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Speaker 3: Future perhaps that gets in the way Of ben's Potent Joe.

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Speaker 4: a third in the, opener just a one hitter with seven,

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Speaker 4: Be, different But Joe ryan's on the mound Against noah

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Speaker 4: weather report AND i was trying to find a word

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