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Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: All right, we say good morning once more to Denise

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Speaker 3: Pelagreni from the Bloomberg newsroom in New York City. PepsiCo

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Speaker 3: and the news cutting prices on snack foods.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a whole bunch of snack foods, Lays, Doritos, Tostitos,

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Speaker 4: just about every brand you can think of that's crunchy

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Speaker 4: that PepsiCo sells. It's cutting prices by more than fifteen percent.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to lift sales with more affordable products after

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Speaker 4: consumers balk down all the food inflation we've been seeing,

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Speaker 4: and consumers kind of complain to PepsiCo about this. So

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Speaker 4: PepsiCo is also reporting better than expected fourth quarter profit

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Speaker 4: this morning. Should mention a couple things. First of all,

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Speaker 4: this is not shrinkflation. The company says they're keeping packaging

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Speaker 4: sizes the same as they cut the prices. And the

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Speaker 4: other thing is that they don't actually set the price

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Speaker 4: that we pay at the store. The retailers do, right,

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Speaker 4: but they're kind of not exactly guiding, but they're indicating

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Speaker 4: to stores, especially grocery store chains, that they expect them

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Speaker 4: to cut the prices as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Avocados prices are coming down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I hear promo after promo about the

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Speaker 4: big Game, and iHeart. Of course, avocados are the cheapest

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Speaker 4: they've been in ages ahead of the Super Bowl. Prices

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Speaker 4: are down more than nineteen percent from a year ago.

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Speaker 4: According to research firm Circana US on track to import

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Speaker 4: around two hundred ninety million pounds of the fruit from

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Speaker 4: Mexico in the four weeks leading up to the game.

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Speaker 4: I'd be the most ever. Mexico had that bumper crop

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Speaker 4: last year. Better weather and of course, you know the

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Speaker 4: tariff thing is sort of eased a bit. That helps too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. How are the futures looking this morning, Denise.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dow futures are down again, but just barely.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've been.

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Speaker 4: Pretty positive overall. Right now, futures are down eleven SMP

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Speaker 4: futures they're up. We had a bunch of these report

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Speaker 4: quarterly results.

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Speaker 1: PayPal.

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Speaker 4: Those shares are touting what like sixteen percent right now

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Speaker 4: after they disappointed and they're replacing their CEO. But we were

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Speaker 4: talking about Palinter defense and government contractor. That stock is

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Speaker 4: surging on way better than expected sales forecasts. They're on

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Speaker 4: the Nasdaq and nasdek feature is now up one forty

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Speaker 4: five with business. I'm Denise Pellegrini. I'm seven hundred.

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Speaker 3: WW alrighty eight ten on the morning shows seven undred WLW.

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Speaker 3: He was just named one of the top lawyers twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six in Cincinnati. That he is our legal analyst

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Speaker 3: commentator at seven undred wl W and also follow him

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Speaker 3: at law Crime Network has great podcast. That's James Bogan,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Tri State Criminal Defense attorney James. Good morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well and that you're ready for

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Speaker 3: more snow.

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Speaker 6: Well, remember Tom, I grew up in Chicago. I'm really

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Speaker 6: used the snow.

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Speaker 3: You're right about that and very very cold, I might add,

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Speaker 3: having lived there six years myself at one point in time.

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Speaker 3: Want to get into this story, and many are saying

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Speaker 3: this is a decision in a landmark lawsuit and what

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Speaker 3: might be to come for those wondering what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: A twenty two year old woman who identified as a

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Speaker 3: boy in her teen years accused New York doctors of

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Speaker 3: pushing a double mysectomy on her when she was a minor.

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Speaker 3: So she had this life altering surgery when she was sixteen.

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Speaker 3: She got approval from a psychologist, she got approval from

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Speaker 3: the surgeon, both of whom the jury found liable of

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Speaker 3: medical malpractice. They're giving her two million dollars. What does

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Speaker 3: this mean in the legal world, Well.

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Speaker 6: This is just the first D transitioner lawsuit to go

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Speaker 6: to trial and have a verdict. Ever. And the thing

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Speaker 6: that strikes me this was in New York, which is,

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Speaker 6: as we know, a very liberal state, and this is

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Speaker 6: an award for two million. They were shooting for eight million.

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Speaker 6: I just have a feeling that, you know, there's about

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Speaker 6: twenty eight other D transitioner lawsuits going around nationwide right

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Speaker 6: now at different stages in different states, and this could

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Speaker 6: possibly be opening up the floodgates. You've got, you know,

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Speaker 6: basically what you're going to have. You're going to have

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Speaker 6: the doctor says, whisked them through a lot of times,

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Speaker 3: They also went on in this lawsuit that was from

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Speaker 3: the psychologists standpoint. His name is Kenneth Einhorn. The surgeon

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Speaker 3: they are holding both of those responsible for ignoring standards

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Speaker 3: of care and procedural guard rails by pressuring the minor

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Speaker 3: in addressing this gender dysphoria with permanent surgery. The mom said,

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Speaker 3: as you just point out, James Bogan, that the mom

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Speaker 3: But the lawyers pointed the finger, saying that the psychiatrist

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Speaker 3: and that the surgeon also was someone who was really

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Speaker 3: pushing this. You know, I guess the question is going

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Speaker 3: to become James Bogan, one of the top lawyers, as

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Speaker 3: voted in Cincinnati Magazine for twenty twenty six. How many

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Speaker 3: doctors and psychiatrists out there are going to be able

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Speaker 3: to fight that charge, if indeed that's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: It's so many of these clinics and or hospitals, including

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Speaker 3: Sinnati Children's Hospital.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think they're gonna be in a very vulnerable position.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking that before this. You know, a couple

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Speaker 6: of years ago you had the CAST report out of

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Speaker 6: the UK, which, among other things, debunked the whole suits

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Speaker 6: the claim that kids denied these treatments will kill themselves.

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Speaker 6: This was a three hundred and eighty eight page study,

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Speaker 6: is largely goes away by the end of puberty. I

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Speaker 6: mean this is from out of Europe, you know, and

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder when it comes to Cincinnati Children's

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Speaker 3: they have a very tough decision to make here, because

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Speaker 3: now you're getting into a whole different area. Are they

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Speaker 3: we already have a law against this in.

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Speaker 6: Ohio, Yes, and I think I think it's just a

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Speaker 6: matter of time. Remember Donald, this is straight from Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump's executive order that he made last year after taking

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Speaker 6: office that any hospitals or medical practices that receive federal funding,

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Speaker 6: they can't prescribe hormones and blockers or perform surgeries. And

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Speaker 6: you know one more thing too, about the screening that

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Speaker 6: you have with these kids. Back in the eighties, when

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Speaker 6: I used to hear about this stuff, you'd be hearing

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Speaker 6: with teenagers whose brains aren't even close to being fully developed.

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Speaker 6: As you know, brain doesn't fully developed by about age

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Speaker 6: twenty five. With boys, at least they're being given hormones

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you read about it. You hear about

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Speaker 3: being a boy. She too, is getting ready to bring

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Speaker 3: a lawsuit. She's back to being a girl and some

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Speaker 3: of the things that have occurred to her body after

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's chilling.

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Speaker 3: You talked about some of the evidence from foreign country.

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Children's was asked the question about whether it's going

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati children said they provide evidence based, individualized care to

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Speaker 3: all patients while adhering to the law. I know, I'm

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Speaker 3: throwing you on the spot a little bit. There has

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Speaker 3: there been any ever, I mean, really any ever. I'm

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Speaker 3: not to my propaganda. I don't care which side of

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Speaker 3: has there ever been any evidence? Because I haven't read it.

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Speaker 3: I've read quite the contrary. But has there been any

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Speaker 3: evidence that this transgender therapy slash particularly surgery is good

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Speaker 6: There's been There have been no long term studies at all.

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Speaker 6: Anyone who's saying that the evidence that medical evidence has

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Speaker 6: settled is lying. There has been no long term studies

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Speaker 6: on the say, on the effects of blockers and hormones

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Speaker 6: on anyone who's prescribed them as teenagers. Nothing, they're lying.

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Speaker 3: You read more into this article today about this very

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Speaker 3: topic and this whole thing, and I just say to myself,

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Speaker 3: she was eleven. Do you think there's going to be

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Speaker 3: We don't allow eleven year olds in some countries around

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Speaker 3: allowing eleven year olds, twelve year olds, fifteen year old

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very frightening. And anyone, any competent doctor knows,

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Speaker 6: like I said, brain development, a child's brain, a person's

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Speaker 6: brain does not fully develop. That leaves the guys until

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Speaker 6: they're about twenty five. That's why in the CAST report

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Speaker 6: they recommended that no one under eighteen get hormone drugs,

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Speaker 6: twenty five. And that's real medical evidence. And the thing is,

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Speaker 6: in this country, we've got the American Academy of Pediatrics,

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Speaker 6: which supports every far left wing cause you can imagine

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Speaker 6: they're pushing this stuff. They're very agenda driven like with this,

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Speaker 6: like they are with just about everything else. You know,

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Speaker 6: the AAP pushed pushes gun control, they pushed Obamacare, vaccine mandates,

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Speaker 3: I just you know, I just wonder in closing, James Bogan,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time and your expertise. As always,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom, always a privilege.

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Speaker 3: You're her favorite person, that's one. I mean, I've known

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Speaker 2: No, my wife was in the same dorm as That's

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Speaker 3: Let's start though with if you're going to open the fridge,

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Speaker 3: in our house. So I'm walking down the aisles and

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Speaker 3: here I come down the chipsile and generally speaking, I'm

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Speaker 3: not a big junk food eater, generally speaking, but you

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Speaker 3: mentioned weak spot Dorito's, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: the news comes out today. By the way, they're cutting

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Speaker 3: the price of Dorito's. That's neither he nor Marre. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right, that's right. But I said to myself, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm not going to buy another bag. I'm

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Speaker 3: not doing it. I'm just not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: So I walked right past it. Daughter comes over yesterday,

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Speaker 3: reaches down, knowing where the Doritos are, She's like, Dad,

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Speaker 3: what's the deal. There's nothing left in here? And I said,

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Speaker 3: that's right, and there ain't any in the garage, I said,

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Speaker 3: so'll forget all about it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway it can be done.

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Speaker 8: It's not hidden.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not hitting, it's not that's something our son.

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Speaker 1: You should do. Under his bed, we find bags of dinner.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we used to high food all the time. But

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Speaker 8: you know, you bring up something, it's something really touching though,

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Speaker 8: Tom it's out, you know, your daughter's home. And a

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Speaker 8: lot of the real special moments in our lives have

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Speaker 8: been around food, whether it's at the dining room table,

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Speaker 8: the favorite foods that we all enjoyed together. And there's

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Speaker 8: something to be said for that. And we do crave

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Speaker 8: nostalgically certain food certain times in our lives. But you

463
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Speaker 8: got to stop yourself and say, am I craving that

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Speaker 8: special time or that special.

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Speaker 5: Memory and trying to recreate it?

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Speaker 8: Or can I just sit and reflect on how much

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Speaker 8: I really enjoyed those family dinners and those times when

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Speaker 8: my daughter and I just sat around a big of

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Speaker 8: burritos you talked about life and those are really cool,

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Speaker 8: cool things. But once again, you have to sit down

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Speaker 8: and really reflect. Just do the pause. I call it,

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Speaker 8: you know, the holy pause. You just and there's so

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Speaker 8: much power in it. You go, wait a minute, Am

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Speaker 8: I just craving that wonderful feeling, that wonderful time that

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Speaker 8: I spent with my daughter and my family? Or is

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Speaker 8: it am I really hungry. And and the other thing

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Speaker 8: about all these really high processed foods, and they are good,

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Speaker 8: but they are high processed for a reason. We do

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Speaker 8: crave them because they have just the right amount of

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Speaker 8: sugar and salt. So food manufacturers too, they're not dumb.

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Speaker 8: They really know how to hit our sweet spot. And

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Speaker 8: they really, they really are addicting.

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Speaker 5: And that's the honest truth. So that's another reason you don't.

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Speaker 8: Want to have that stuff in your house, because you

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Speaker 8: know the power are against you for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 3: You know, another thing that happens, and you brought up

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Speaker 3: about dehydration. Oftentimes you may not be hungry, you may

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Speaker 3: actually be thirsty. So I read an article I don't

489
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Speaker 3: know a few months ago, and it talked about how

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Speaker 3: warm beverages are really good to knock down your hunger.

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Speaker 3: And so for some people, maybe that's tea, maybe that's coffee.

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Speaker 3: I have found myself a couple of times a day

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Speaker 3: it will be a big glass of water, but it'll

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Speaker 3: be a hot glass of water, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: after I have that sort of that that hunger is

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Speaker 3: knocked down. And I have found that to actually be

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Speaker 3: something that studies show that's true, but in real practice,

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Speaker 3: I have found that that's actually a very good option.

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Speaker 8: You know something, Now you're talking about what to do instead,

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Speaker 8: which is brilliant. So it's not like you have to

501
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Speaker 8: fight the food craving or fight there to runch the refrigerator.

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Speaker 8: It's taking that time and going, wait a minute, what

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Speaker 8: can I do instead? So you're finding all your personal secrets.

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Speaker 8: And for me, it's like something more. I'm like hot

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Speaker 8: tea and all of a sudden, I'm so involved in

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Speaker 8: drinking that I forgot I was hungry. It's that pause

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Speaker 8: or all of a sudden you're bored. You're like, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go get a snack, and you go, you know what,

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Speaker 8: I forgot to call my mom. I want to check

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Speaker 8: in with her, And all of a sudden you're an

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Speaker 8: engaged conversation and you and you're like, oh, there's no hunger,

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Speaker 8: and you realize you weren't hungry.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, are you bored?

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Speaker 8: Well call someone if you're freezing, you know, put on

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Speaker 8: an extra coat, go out and shovel, you know, do

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Speaker 8: something active to warm up from the inside out.

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Speaker 5: Go to a class or read a book. You know,

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Speaker 5: read a book, do the laundry.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, try to replace it with something, even if it's

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Speaker 8: for ten minutes, you know, ten minutes. Say wait a

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Speaker 8: minute before I want to eat something, I'm going to

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Speaker 8: wait ten minutes.

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Speaker 5: And during that ten.

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Speaker 8: Minutes, I'm going to do blaw and sort of get

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Speaker 8: into like these five things you do before you decide

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Speaker 8: to eat, because sometimes you are hungry, and in all fairness,

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Speaker 8: that's fair. But I think that also the point of

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Speaker 8: today's conversation was really to let people know it's perfectly

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Speaker 8: normal this time of year to be hungry. It's to

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Speaker 8: be hungry, you know, to feel always hungry, and to

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Speaker 8: know this is this type of time of year is

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Speaker 8: the hardest time to lose weight.

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Speaker 5: So and sometimes when you know that and you know

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Speaker 5: that we're.

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Speaker 8: All in the same boat today, it feels better and

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Speaker 8: you're like, you know what, I could make a few

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Speaker 8: small changes and I don't feel like I'm the only

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Speaker 8: one that's going through all this stress or this boredom

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Speaker 8: or isolation, or my day's messed up again, or what

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Speaker 8: am I going to do with my children? And how

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Speaker 8: can I replace this need for food with something else

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Speaker 8: that's really important?

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Speaker 5: To me and really matters to me.

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Speaker 1: This too shall pass.

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Speaker 3: Julie, thank you so much as always for your time

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