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Speaker 1: American Scott Phone back on seven hundred WLW. With all

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Speaker 1: the news and big news we've had in headlines recently,

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Speaker 1: there's other things that are kind of important. One of

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Speaker 1: those is I don't know if you saw this, but

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Speaker 1: the auditor of state State of Ohio reported at least

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Speaker 1: twenty three cyber attacks against government offices in the past

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Speaker 1: twelve months. It's here in Ohio, including seven hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars in theft in Licking County. We've seen this in

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Speaker 1: Dayton and in Cincinnati and across the area. And as

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Speaker 1: a result, lawmakers are working on cybersecurity legislations coming together

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Speaker 1: that would acquire municipalities to develop their own policies in

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Speaker 1: response to those cyber attacks and local governments. Chris Nihis

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Speaker 1: is here. He's the CEO of Cincinnati based Vigilant cyber

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Speaker 1: Security and Joints to show to discuss Chris.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Thanks Scott, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Before we get to that where we this

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Speaker 1: relatively new news here of this supply chain breach, and

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Speaker 1: that's frightening because when it comes to user participation in

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Speaker 1: the supply chain, and that is ordering stuff on Amazon

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Speaker 1: or anywhere else, we have a compromise at that level.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What do we need to know?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: So what's crazy about this? So MPMs are packets of

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Speaker 3: data it's or it's it's software, and what developers will

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Speaker 2: They'll pull it put it into.

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Speaker 3: Their software that they write so that they don't have

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Speaker 3: to write those modules again. So what basically happened here

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Speaker 3: access to these modules. Attack went in modified them to

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Speaker 3: when they were updated, like when people update their software,

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Speaker 3: and these are definitely the cyber attack went into all

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Speaker 3: problem with this is is that developers don't always necessarily

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Speaker 3: know what packages they put into these applications. Companies don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't know if they take a piece of software

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Speaker 3: this case, it's affecting a lot of crypto wallets that

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Speaker 3: this supply chain attack of basically a supply chain of

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Speaker 3: it can affect the applications you use every day. And

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Speaker 3: in a lot of case, what they're seeing where a

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Speaker 3: lot of these applications were affected. We're crypto wallets, So

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Speaker 3: if you're transferring crypto, one of the things that's happening

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Speaker 3: transfer crypto, the software actually swaps out the setting address

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Speaker 3: crypto from people trying to make legitimate transactions by just

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Speaker 3: changing that out.

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Speaker 1: Wow, got it. So now every time you click buy

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Speaker 1: or you add a card right now, now you've got

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Speaker 1: to think about that, right.

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Speaker 4: No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: As we talk with HB ninety six, it's even these

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Speaker 3: things can be related, right because you know, when when

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Speaker 3: necessarily know those things are happening. So like within PM,

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Speaker 3: it's invisible to everybody out there, you know, but it's everywhere, right,

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Speaker 3: it's the software library system that developers use to build

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Speaker 3: It's like the plumbing behind all of your favorite apps,

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Speaker 1: Right right right, We don't think about it until now

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Speaker 1: we can breach that as well. And this gets back

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Speaker 1: to the discussion about HB ninety six. Here cybersecurity legislature

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Speaker 1: across the state. The state says, well, if you're in

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Speaker 1: to review your do a systems review, identify risks and

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Speaker 1: But you know, we have a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 3: Well, see, here's the thing about it is, and you

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Speaker 3: Here is that the commodity technology that's out there in

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Speaker 3: Well sometimes you know, with with the attack against Dropbox,

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Speaker 3: And when it is effective tech it does take teams

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Speaker 3: where is you know, someone bring up a purchase for

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Speaker 3: cybersecurity and it gets trumps because of sidewalks fixes, right,

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Speaker 3: and which are both important, but but they just don't

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Speaker 3: to your point, yes, it's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You know what happens though in these organizations is they

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Speaker 3: buy commodity software that is more automatic, and that's that's

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Speaker 3: part of the issue, is that the automatic approach to

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Speaker 3: cyberturity doesn't work, and so these school districts are going

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Speaker 3: to have to spend a lot more money. Local governments

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Speaker 1: Right right, Well, that's the thing is finding the proper vendor.

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Speaker 1: But it's up to the municipality though to figure out,

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, it doesn't And That's really the thing with

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Speaker 3: the you know, the organizations that have quoe unquote more

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Speaker 3: the data. And in this case, you know there there's

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Speaker 3: can't ransomware, which I think is a good thing in

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Speaker 3: most cases because it will it will slow down the

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Speaker 3: approval to pay ransomware now, which is really good. But

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Speaker 3: the other thing that I I'll say, I do really

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Speaker 3: they have to report everything they do literally public record.

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Speaker 3: And so why that's important is when you're when you're

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Speaker 3: if you have a document that you literally just put

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Speaker 3: your records, then they know exactly how to attack you.

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Speaker 3: So I think Ohio did a really good thing. You

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. Here's California, Silicon Valley, Apple, all these big

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Speaker 1: and they screw it up. Here's Ohio. We get it right.

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Speaker 2: Good for right, we get it right.

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Speaker 1: The reason I live at Ohio now California. Chris and I.

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Speaker 1: Heis CEO of vigil and Cybersecurity in Cincinnati, Ohio, and

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Speaker 1: the State Aunor's office and now legislation proposed coming together

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Speaker 1: to require musavels to developed cybersecurity policies, which is important.

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Speaker 1: Sounds boring, but important, but I mean just think about it.

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Speaker 1: Just to what this month we had the City of Middletown,

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Speaker 1: for example, right there, they had an attack disrupted city services,

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Speaker 1: a major one. I think it breached like five hundred

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Speaker 1: Still have no idea who did it, where the information is.

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Speaker 1: It's just out there in the ether, and there's no

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Speaker 1: catching these people, as we've talked about before, Chris, But

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Speaker 1: those are two of many. I think the problem for

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Speaker 1: Kettering Health Alliance had a ransomware malware attack shut everything down,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what the outcome was, but you know,

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Speaker 1: their pr people kind of played it close to the vest, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: everything's fine, we got it under control. We're working on

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Speaker 1: the problem and there's no disclosure. Now, if you're that's

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Speaker 1: one thing in your company, but if it's your health records,

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Speaker 1: if it's your social if it's your address, I need

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Speaker 1: to know that that information has been compromised and it's transparency,

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Speaker 1: so you look at it go. You know, I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to be held accountable. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get voted out if I'm a Middletown City council person,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the mayor of Columbus, or I'm the CEO

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that staying on my record. So we'll downplay.

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Speaker 1: That's not good for the people who have been victimized.

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Speaker 3: Though it's not you know, you know, we we have

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Speaker 3: to be better. You know, organizations have to be better

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Speaker 3: You know, that's where a lot of these classacks are

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Speaker 3: lasting against these organizations are starting to come around. The

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Speaker 3: it comes to these records, you know, when you when

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Speaker 3: you want, you know, our records, yours of mine already stolen.

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Speaker 3: You know, the majority of the population over eighteen already stolen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been so many breaches one after the.

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Speaker 3: Other that data is out there, especially as social numbers

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Speaker 1: So cybersecurity legislation coming together at the Ohio level that

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Speaker 1: That's on you. I don't know. It seems a sense

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Speaker 1: of propriety. It's like, if you have a job and

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Speaker 1: you don't shot for your job and you don't have

436
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Speaker 1: sick days, or you're out of sick days, you're out

437
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Speaker 1: of vacation days, you're not gonna get paid. Okay, that's

438
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Speaker 1: just how it works in the real world. Now, if

439
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Speaker 1: in this case the politicians shut everything down to score

440
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Speaker 1: some points with voters or their constituents, which is all

441
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Speaker 1: this is, then that's not on you. You showed up

442
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Speaker 1: ready to work and the deal is in the past. Well,

443
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Speaker 1: if you shut down and we may not get it

444
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Speaker 1: this week, but at some point I'll be made whole.

445
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Speaker 1: That seems reasonable, you go, well, Sloan, that just adds

446
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Speaker 1: to the national the federal deaf. That's I mean literally, Now,

447
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Speaker 1: I think people argue that are pursing in the sense

448
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Speaker 1: that it's what the federal plays make. What the four

449
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand, it's such such an insignificant number. I mean,

450
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Speaker 1: it's significant, but it's not. It's the other stuff that

451
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Speaker 1: we continue to do that bankrupt the country. This is

452
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Speaker 1: literally pennies, but you're not worried about the dollars. That

453
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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. And not only that, this

454
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Speaker 1: is actual, real, live human beings, you know. Okay, they

455
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Speaker 1: took a well that's what you get working for the

456
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Speaker 1: federal government. You shouldn't work for the federal goal. Well,

457
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Speaker 1: you know, that's not what they told people when they

458
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Speaker 1: offered the job. It's not like people came to them

459
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Speaker 1: and demanded them to create a position for them. Someone

460
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Speaker 1: at some point said, hey, there's federal jobs available. Here's

461
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Speaker 1: a federal job. And some of these people may have

462
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Speaker 1: been hired under the previous Trump administration or maybe even

463
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Speaker 1: during the Bush administration, who knows. Nonetheless, the deal was, hey,

464
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Speaker 1: you show up, you get paid, here's the job. Hey

465
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Speaker 1: we have a job opening. Okay, grant, I'm gonna go

466
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Speaker 1: into the federal government. And certainly the benefits are really

467
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Speaker 1: damn good. You get every of their day off on

468
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Speaker 1: a holiday. But we know them as the rules. And

469
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Speaker 1: when you have a mortgage to pay, when you have

470
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Speaker 1: a family to take care of, I feel for you

471
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Speaker 1: if you're furloughed in the sense that, okay, after Friday,

472
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Speaker 1: I don't have any money coming, and that's a problem.

473
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Speaker 1: But at some point in two weeks a week, whenever

474
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Speaker 1: this thing's settled, maybe been up to what the longest

475
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Speaker 1: one we had with thirty five days, and at some point,

476
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Speaker 1: all right, we'll get you your money. But you know,

477
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Speaker 1: just to simply say, hey, you're not working, you're not

478
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Speaker 1: getting paid, you know, just another one of those unforced

479
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Speaker 1: errors that the Trump administration continues to commit. It doesn't

480
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Speaker 1: really help. I mean, I can't imagine people that are

481
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Speaker 1: routing who the hell's rooting for someone not to get

482
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Speaker 1: a paycheck, going hey, yeah, this is awesome. The pennies

483
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Speaker 1: that we're saving, literally with all the with the thirty

484
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Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars plus in debt we are, this is

485
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Speaker 1: going to save literally fractions of cents. Yay, good, let's

486
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Speaker 1: punish these What do they do wrong? You know, simply

487
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Speaker 1: we're hired for a job, could have been a year ago,

488
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Speaker 1: could have been ten, twenty thirty years ago. Who the

489
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Speaker 1: hell knows, and now they're not getting paid, so I'm

490
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Speaker 1: not quite sure a vendors for that matter. It just

491
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Speaker 1: seems kind of pad once again, one of those petty

492
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Speaker 1: things that we continue to do. So you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're cheering for someone not to get paid, I think

494
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Speaker 1: that reflects upon you more than anything. And all in all,

495
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Speaker 1: it's the notion that somehow we distrusted government this country

496
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Speaker 1: for so long. That has been a cornerstone of America

497
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Speaker 1: really since our foundation. I mean, we broke away because

498
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Speaker 1: we hated government. We trust it, and now all of

499
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Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, yay, whether if I'm on team Writer,

500
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Speaker 1: team Blue, no matter what they do is one hundred

501
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Speaker 1: percent right. And I'll point that out to again. If

502
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Speaker 1: you just get government the hell out of the way

503
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Speaker 1: and a lot of us make money and live our lives,

504
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Speaker 1: it seems to work much better.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Another area that would be letting parents parent. Would you

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Speaker 1: agree that we may not be perfect when it comes

508
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Speaker 1: to parenting, may not be the best parents or in

509
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Speaker 1: retrospect of God, I don't know a parent unless they're

510
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Speaker 1: not completely honest themselves. That later in life, as they

511
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Speaker 1: age get older and their kids grow up, you go,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's some things that would done differently. I

513
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Speaker 1: think you're open and honest with yourself and your kids.

514
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Speaker 1: You go, yeah, there's some things I did or I

515
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Speaker 1: thought was right at the time that turns out in

516
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Speaker 1: retrospect was the wrong thing. And sometimes you luck into

517
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Speaker 1: things they're good as well. I think that's true. But

518
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Speaker 1: they say, you know, there's no handbook, that there's no instruction, man,

519
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Speaker 1: and when it comes to having a child. Plus you're

520
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Speaker 1: also fairly young too, and you have a lot to

521
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Speaker 1: learn in life. I think that's why grandparents are so

522
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Speaker 1: good is because we've been through it. We've seen cycles,

523
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Speaker 1: we've seen history, we've lived it. The stuff we thought

524
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Speaker 1: was important, we realize it's not that important. I think

525
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Speaker 1: grandparents are much better parents than actual parents. And that's

526
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Speaker 1: not a slight towards parents. It's just like, you know more,

527
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Speaker 1: that's the allegedly the wisdom that comes along and maybe

528
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Speaker 1: I do things a little bit different. And that's why, yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: I've got to Gramma and Grandpa's like, you know, we

530
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Speaker 1: don't have all the strict roles and the nonsense that

531
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Speaker 1: goes with this, and that's the balance of life and

532
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Speaker 1: that's true for every generation. And I bring this up

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Speaker 1: kind of playing off of what we just talked about,

534
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Speaker 1: but also the fact that Supreme Court are arguments yesterday

535
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Speaker 1: and whether this is Colorado, Colorado has a ban as

536
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Speaker 1: I think twenty states do in America. I'm conversion therapy.

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Speaker 1: That that the argument is interesting argument. So it's a

538
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Speaker 1: Christian therapist and she is challenging the law that prohibits

539
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Speaker 1: licensed mental health therapists and providers from attempting to change

540
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Speaker 1: a minor sexual orientation or gender identity, called conversion therapy.

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Speaker 1: We've heard about this for years and a lot of

542
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Speaker 1: religious groups are behind it because it's biblical to believe

543
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Speaker 1: that it's a moral to be gay or lesbian or transgender,

544
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Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And it's been opposed by medical

545
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Speaker 1: organizations because they say, now this is actually more harmful

546
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Speaker 1: to force them into conversion therapy rather than go along

547
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Speaker 1: with it. And you know, we've debated this when it

548
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Speaker 1: comes to transgender issues and the like in the Buckeye

549
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Speaker 1: State as well as Kentucky and Indiana for that matter.

550
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Speaker 1: And so this lady is the k has the case.

551
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Speaker 1: Kaylee Choles is her name, and she's going after the

552
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Speaker 1: rule of the law that prohibits therapists like yourself from

553
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Speaker 1: attempting to change a miner's sex orientation or gender identity.

554
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Speaker 1: She said, it's because it infringes on her ability to

555
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Speaker 1: counsel miners within a faith based context. It's a First

556
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Speaker 1: Amendment argument, It's what. It's a really interesting argument, thinking, well, wow,

557
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Speaker 1: if you believe, because of biblical teachings that you can

558
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Speaker 1: convert someone to become straight when they're gay, then that

559
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Speaker 1: should be allowed. Now would you draw the line the

560
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Speaker 1: abuse and neglect and punishment and you're locking a kid

561
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Speaker 1: in a box and some of these horror stories you

562
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Speaker 1: hear about, I don't know for some of these re

563
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Speaker 1: education camps they call it. Yeah, but if you're to

564
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Speaker 1: counsel them, I think that in a clinical setting, I

565
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Speaker 1: think that's an entirely different thing. Do I agree with it?

566
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because much like the other side of

567
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Speaker 1: this argument would be what's happened in Ohio when it

568
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Speaker 1: came to preventing transgender kids from accessing puberty blockers and

569
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Speaker 1: hormone therapist therapy interest in general. And you can say, well,

570
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Speaker 1: that's different. This is this is someone talking, This is

571
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Speaker 1: not a chemical you're injecting. It doesn't matter. The fact

572
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Speaker 1: of the matter is that there is a parent and

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Speaker 1: there's also a medical community to think that this is

574
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Speaker 1: a reasonable and quite honestly not not debilitating process to

575
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Speaker 1: in this case try and change someone's gender. Like I

576
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: don't get all of it myself, but it seems to

577
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Speaker 1: me that if you're arguing and going, hey, listen, we

578
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: should be fighting for Kaylee Childs in her First Amendment rights,

579
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Speaker 1: in the First Amendment rights of other Christians to counsel

580
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Speaker 1: a young person a minor into becoming straight when they're gay.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, actually I don't believe

582
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Speaker 1: you can do that, but it doesn't mean you can't try.

583
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Speaker 1: And also either and when you look at what's going

584
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Speaker 1: on with with we talked about the transgender thing, is

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Speaker 1: that their parents have fully believe that, Yeah, you know what,

586
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Speaker 1: I've kind of known that my son was maybe it

587
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Speaker 1: was a girl, maybe you know, genetically speaking, certainly when

588
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: it comes to the body parts and the biology that

589
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Speaker 1: they are born a man and they're a man or

590
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Speaker 1: a boy in this case, and you know, they may

591
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Speaker 1: have proclivities to or just being a woman and more

592
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: womanly things. But again, I think that's up to the

593
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Speaker 1: parent to make that tough decision or to try and

594
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Speaker 1: do what's best at what they think at that moment

595
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Speaker 1: based on the permission to have to simply parent. Doesn't

596
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Speaker 1: mean it's right. Could be wrong. But I could say

597
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: the same thing about what's happening with this case in Colorado.

598
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Could be wrong, maybe right. Parenting is the toughest job

599
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Speaker 1: in the world, and I know this. We're not good

600
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: at it, none of us are. Because look at the

601
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: state of the world. Most of the problems and crimes

602
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: and everything else we have is why. It's because we

603
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: suck as parents. We've always sucked as parents. They can

604
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Speaker 1: talk about the old days out you know, the good

605
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Speaker 1: old day when the good old days parents could parent

606
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Speaker 1: and parents. Yeah, we weren't good parents back then. Either

607
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: you just do the best you can. Hell wasn't that

608
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Speaker 1: long ago. Or we just had kids because we needed

609
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: cheap labor, we needed free labor. Why do you have

610
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Speaker 1: eleven kids all I've got to run the farm? Well,

611
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Speaker 1: you know what, eleven kids because anything about birth control

612
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: or it's against their religions. So we got all these kids,

613
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Speaker 1: and you know somebody's got to I don't know, somebody's

614
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: got to knit those sweaters. Somebody's gotta make those shoes

615
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: in the sweats out. And then the kids were doing

616
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: somebody's got to sit there and break up blumps of coals.

617
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: That comes out of the mind, Well, well let kids

618
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Speaker 1: do that, so it kids is cheap labor. I wouldn't

619
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Speaker 1: say that that's exactly nominously the greatest generation ever of parents,

620
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Speaker 1: More like the greatest generation ever of people who produced

621
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Speaker 1: free labor. Cheap labor. But that's what we knew at

622
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Speaker 1: the time. They did the best they could do with

623
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Speaker 1: what we knew at the time, and you really can't

624
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Speaker 1: fault people for that same thing.

625
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Speaker 4: Here.

626
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Speaker 1: It just strikes me is whether it's the people that

627
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Speaker 1: are going to be fighting for the Supreme Court to

628
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: overturn this band on free speech when it comes to Christians,

629
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Speaker 1: or in the fact, when it comes to parents who

630
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: believe it's in their kids' best interests, their family's best interests,

631
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Speaker 1: to allow a kid to go through conversion therapy. Sexual

632
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Speaker 1: conversion therapy, it's really not any of my business or yours,

633
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: and it certainly isn't the business of the government now

634
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll get all blown up and say, well,

635
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Speaker 1: you said it's different. You're putting these poisonous chemicals and

636
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Speaker 1: these things, and you're allowing them to inject their kid

637
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Speaker 1: with I don't know. We alter kids' bodies all the time,

638
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: first and foremost. I mean, then if that's the case,

639
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: then we don't want to alter what God did to you.

640
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Speaker 1: Then why are we circumcising boys still? There's no reason

641
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Speaker 1: for that. There's no reason for young babies to have

642
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: ear piercings and stuff. I mean, how far do you

643
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Speaker 1: want to go with government outlawing stuff that you think

644
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Speaker 1: is okay. As a parent, you may cringe at it

645
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Speaker 1: and go, yeah, I wouldn't do that to my kid.

646
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Speaker 1: But again, that's the whole point of this thing. It's

647
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Speaker 1: your child now. Is it neglect? Is it abuse? And

648
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Speaker 1: I love how they try and make this the issue

649
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Speaker 1: of neglect or abuse either way, that you're abusing this

650
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Speaker 1: kid because you're talking about them about Christianity and whether

651
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Speaker 1: it's a good idea and why you shouldn't be gay.

652
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Speaker 1: At the same time, you can apply the same thing

653
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Speaker 1: to what we're talking about when it comes to transgender kids,

654
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Speaker 1: and each side is going to dig their heels and

655
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Speaker 1: scream about why the other side's wrong. But again, it's

656
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: that divisiveness if that's at that one side, and this

657
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: that I'm right and you're always wrong attitude that gets

658
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: us to the cringy, if not dangerous nature of life

659
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Speaker 1: in America today, where we have political violence and everything else.

660
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: You know, again, the problem is government. So you just

661
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: get the hell out of the way. Let us parent now,

662
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: you and neglect abuse, You don't feed your kid. How

663
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Speaker 1: We had a horrific story the other day, and I

664
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Speaker 1: forgot where, but locally where you had these poor babies,

665
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Speaker 1: three of them that were emaciated. Right, The eight year

666
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: old weighed like thirty pounds, the six year old weigh

667
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Speaker 1: like ten pounds. Horrible story. And every time I see

668
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Speaker 1: one of those stories, I look at us. There's always

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Speaker 1: at least one, if not both, of the parents that

670
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Speaker 1: are fat bastards. Did you ever notice that when it

671
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Speaker 1: comes to the people who starve these poor babies and

672
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Speaker 1: deliberately treat them, I don't know, worse than a pet

673
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. You know, one of them, they're always obese.

674
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: It's like, are you eating all their food? I don't

675
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Speaker 1: understand how you can allow this as a human being

676
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Speaker 1: to happen. But people like that, to me are sub

677
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Speaker 1: Now that's an issue we have all. Okay, that's neglect

678
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: and abuse. What we're talking about here is people just

679
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Speaker 1: trying to get by and do the right thing, and

680
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: you know we're criminalizing on either side. The sillinessess of

681
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Speaker 1: it is there's so many people willing to go along

682
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Speaker 1: with it because there's an hour a D next to

683
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Speaker 1: their name and that's all that matters to them. We

684
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Speaker 1: should not be listening to those folks. Quick time out.

685
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Speaker 1: We've got news on the way and just minute, Sloaney

686
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Speaker 1: continues after seven hundred WW do you want to be

687
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Speaker 1: an American? Slowly back on seven hundred WLW. The biggest

688
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Speaker 1: news of the well of the week the shock Cincinnati's

689
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Speaker 1: sending a twenty twenty six fifth round pick to Cleveland

690
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Speaker 1: in exchange for a six round selection and forty year

691
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: old Joe Flacco to SOS save our season, mainly because

692
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: he was available and seemingly he is the only backup

693
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: not tied up in a progressive insurance ad. We couldn't

694
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Speaker 1: get the Veto or Bridgewater. We got Flaco. James rapine

695
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Speaker 1: this year from Sports Illicitris bendelstock dot Com, Lockdo on

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Speaker 1: Bendel's podcast, James, welcome.

697
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Speaker 4: How are you? We're doing great? Are you?

698
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Speaker 1: I'm doing fine? Does this mean that the club is

699
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Speaker 1: confident that that Joe Burrow is going to return in December?

700
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Speaker 1: And I mean that because yeah, normally you look at this,

701
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Speaker 1: it go this, Okay, are we going to win any

702
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: more games? Are we going to make some deals, get

703
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, or just right the season off, because let's

704
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: face it, it's not just the quarterback and going down

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: as a problem. There's a host of other problems as well,

706
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Speaker 1: and we have to systematically rebuild and do everything differently

707
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Speaker 1: and get ready for twenty twenty six. This feels to

708
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Speaker 1: me like, hey, you know what, maybe he's coming back

709
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Speaker 1: in the summer.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And I tried to be indirect with people

711
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Speaker 4: as possible, because you're right, I think a lot of

712
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Speaker 4: people have shut the door on Joe Burrow returning this season,

713
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: and internally that is the expectation. Joe takes snatch to

714
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Speaker 4: him this year. He set that standard splash expectation. You

715
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: put that on himself before he had surgery, before he

716
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: had surgery. He was like, all right, I'm going to

717
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Speaker 4: be back this year, and so yeah, I think so.

718
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Speaker 4: But like you've seen, the Bengals haven't held up their

719
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Speaker 4: end of the bargain Marlin three without Joe, they've been

720
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Speaker 4: out toward one thirteen to what was it, thirteen to

721
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Speaker 4: thirty seven. I had to count all the garbage time

722
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Speaker 4: points right in my head with three games with Jake Browning,

723
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Speaker 4: and so yeah, I think that that is a huge

724
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Speaker 4: indicator of their plans. They expect Jobert to be back

725
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Speaker 4: this year, but they have to be relevant enough for

726
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Speaker 4: him to come back.

727
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Speaker 1: And you know, when this news broke, I was like, wow,

728
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: the Bengals did a deal and they did a deal

729
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Speaker 1: with the division rival, and I was like, yeah, wow,

730
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Speaker 1: it just blew me away. And then I started thinking about, Okay,

731
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Speaker 1: it's Joe Flacco and I you know, from the limited

732
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Speaker 1: Browns games I've watched or saw him play. I went

733
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Speaker 1: back and looked at and it just you know, you're

734
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Speaker 1: looking at the other options. Okay, who else is available

735
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Speaker 1: out there? And we've run the list down. We run

736
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Speaker 1: the list down on our Monday segment of quarterbacks available

737
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Speaker 1: to take over for Jake Browning and this one now

738
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Speaker 1: in retrospect, it just it just felt like my gut

739
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: reaction was, this is like the best chance of all

740
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: the worst options available right for all intents and purposes.

741
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Speaker 1: It's like a closing time look up. You know, you're

742
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: not the best pick of dudes. She seems like a

743
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: really nice person. She might be an axe murderer. I

744
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a temporary arrangement.

745
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. The temporary

746
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: arrangement is the best way to describe it, because you

747
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: bring Joe in here to right the ship and to

748
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Speaker 4: keep the ship at a spot where the other Joe

749
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 4: can come back. And man, I wish he would have

750
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Speaker 4: started with a two and zero start that Jake Browning

751
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Speaker 4: had because it feels much different three weeks later and

752
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: so and will it be enough, I'm not sure, but

753
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: that's very much what it is. Is, Hey, we need

754
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Speaker 4: a guy who can get the ball to our weapons

755
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: and throw the ball to the right spot right, And

756
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: they believe Joe Blacker can do that clearly, Yeah.

757
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Speaker 1: And get up to speed quickly being in the league

758
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Speaker 1: as long as hea spent I mean he can still

759
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned the biggest thing with Browning is, you know,

760
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Speaker 1: he wasn't sure he's throwing the balls. It's not as

761
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Speaker 1: much physical with with Jake Browning as it is mental, right,

762
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Speaker 1: And and now he's just throwing the ball all over

763
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Speaker 1: the place. Uh, he's a scared dog. And I think also,

764
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Speaker 1: and maybe this is a second thing, is the fact

765
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Speaker 1: that Joe Flacco, this will be the second time in

766
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Speaker 1: four weeks he's played Green Bay. It's like it's almost

767
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Speaker 1: like he's in the NFC North, he's playing for Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right. I think that that is

769
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: a factor though, that the up to up to speed

770
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Speaker 4: part of it, and then the leadership part of it.

771
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Speaker 4: Later today when we hear from Zach Taylor, I know

772
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Speaker 4: they evaluated all these quarterback options and none of us

773
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Speaker 4: really highlighted Flacco too much because of the division part

774
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Speaker 4: of it. And that's what's really surprising. The Bengals trading

775
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Speaker 4: with the Browns. That's never happened. So they made history yesterday,

776
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Speaker 4: and so why and the why is, well, you have

777
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Speaker 4: the arm talent, but it's also the leadership in his football. IQ.

778
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Speaker 4: He's seen everything in the league because he's been in

779
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Speaker 4: the league since I was in high school. Yep, you know.

780
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Speaker 4: And so when you can do that, you have experience.

781
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Speaker 4: He's like a year and a half younger than Zach Taylor,

782
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Speaker 4: and so that's a big difference from twenty eight year

783
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Speaker 4: old Joe Burrow or Jake Browning as well as twenty nine.

784
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think a bunch of factors. But his

785
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Speaker 4: football IQ and leadership are two big reasons why they

786
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Speaker 4: wanted him.

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Speaker 1: All right, But Flaco got bench for a reason. I mean,

788
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Speaker 1: it's not like he was keeping the seat room for

789
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. Like you know, Cleveland fans, Browns fans, and

790
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: the dog pound it bones through it to those eight

791
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: hundred pound men and women weren't screaming for Dylan Gabriel.

792
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: This isn't Drake May, right, it's not Russell Wilson turning

793
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: it over to Drake May. This is Dylan Gabriel. And

794
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: we'll get to why. I think this is probably a

795
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: pretty good thing for Cleveland. But flack wan four starts

796
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Speaker 1: the seasons one in three completion rate is fifty eight percent,

797
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: two TV six interceptions his last full season in twenty seventeen.

798
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Speaker 1: Since twenty seventeen, which is why seven eight years he's

799
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Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty six. Well, okay, you look at that

800
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Speaker 1: and you go, wow, he's our guy. Why all right?

801
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Speaker 4: A couple of things. One, some of those interceptions this

802
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: year are not because I went back and watched, because

803
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: if you look at the numbers, you're right, You're like,

804
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: come on, he's been Jake Browning for the Browns. And

805
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: just think back to Week one. Didn't it feel like

806
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: the Browns let the Bengals off the hook because it

807
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: drops that led to interception? Yep, there really wasn't you know,

808
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy can cash or Harold Fannings can catch that.

809
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: They were probably having a different conversation when it comes

810
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: to that game. And so I think that his weapon

811
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: let him down at times this year. Last year with Indy, yeah,

812
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: the record was a little lost two and four, but

813
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: he completed nearly sixty five percent of his passes, was

814
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: able to operate that offense. And then the year prior,

815
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Speaker 4: he led the Browns to the playoffs and ap Comeback

816
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: Player of the Year and four and one as a

817
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: starter in the regular season and was a key piece

818
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Speaker 4: and a big reason why they were able to rally

819
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Speaker 4: with Deshaun Watson out. So I think that's what you

820
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 4: look at is all right, Well, he's been in these

821
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: weird situations, back against the wall situations. This year was

822
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: weird and awkward and clunky from the get go, and

823
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: his weapons put him down. But it is valid. I mean,

824
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people thought Joe Blacker was

825
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: done years and years ago in twenty nineteen when he

826
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Speaker 4: joined the Denver Broncos. What's twenty twenty five? You know,

827
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Speaker 4: how much does he have? How much can he give?

828
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Speaker 4: Clearly he still wants to play, and in that when

829
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Speaker 4: he sounds Cleveland in the offseason and that's a weird

830
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: situation with two rookie quarterbacks. Fine, well, now you get

831
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Speaker 4: a chance to play here and play for the playoffs.

832
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's one thing Cleveland doesn't have a shortage

833
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: of his quarterbacks. He is James Rapine from bengalstock dot Com, Lockdown,

834
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Speaker 1: Begels and breaking Down. Of course, the news that the starter,

835
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Speaker 1: presumably on Sunday, is going to be Joe Flacco. Yes,

836
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Speaker 1: that Joe Flacco gotten from the Browns for a six

837
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Speaker 1: round pick. He comes over to take over for a

838
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Speaker 1: dismal Jake Browning, although I'm looking at Flaco's numbers, we're

839
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Speaker 1: talking about that not really all that much better, arguably

840
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: worse in some cases. But I look at this and go, okay,

841
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: so what's the difference between offensive lines? It's not, isn't

842
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Speaker 1: The problem here in Cincinnati is we've often talked about

843
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: not just you know, Joe Burrow covers up a lot

844
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Speaker 1: of mistakes. When there's no Joe Burrow, I don't know

845
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Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks can come in and gloss that over

846
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Speaker 1: as he has now for a number of seasons. You've

847
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Speaker 1: got a bad offensive line, You've got questions of defense,

848
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: play calling. There's a lot of issues that's wrong with

849
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Speaker 1: this team, or at least questionable with this team as

850
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Speaker 1: far as Joe Flacco coming in and getting time to

851
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Speaker 1: do what he does, and that's through the deep ball.

852
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: How to the Browns line offensive line compared to the

853
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Speaker 1: Bengals offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I think the Bengals offensive line is certainly worse at

855
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Speaker 4: run blocking because the Bengals have really struggled in that area.

856
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: And that's what I think is going to be interesting,

857
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: is just Joe Flaco does his arm and his arm

858
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: strength open up the deep ball, which will then in turn,

859
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: give the Bengals a chance to run the ball a

860
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: bit more effectively, because they certainly haven't been able to

861
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: do that at any point this year. But I do

862
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: think that the Bengals, from my pass blocking standpoint, might.

863
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: Have the better offensive line.

864
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 4: Now, can you go the Joe Burrow route and drop

865
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco back fifty times a game?

866
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: Like?

867
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: I don't think that's realistic, right, But in a true

868
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: pass blocking situation, can they hold up? I do think so.

869
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: Offensive line is a huge shot in the town Scott

870
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 4: and rightfully so. And they had their failures the other day,

871
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: and they have had their issues throughout the year, but

872
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: I think the past two games they did enough to

873
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: give this Bengals offense a chance and Jake Brownings simply

874
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: did not make the play. Is that we're there, and

875
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: that that's the difference. J is gonna get hit, you

876
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: know everyone's he's gonna get hit. But if he makes

877
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 4: the plays that are there, I do think that this

878
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: offense will be better, will be more explosive. But yeah,

879
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 4: that the offensive line is a huge factor here moving forward.

880
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at it and go, well, the other

881
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: factor that we had mentioned, James is the fact he's

882
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: forty years old. I mean, you pocket passer, he can't

883
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: move out of the pocket. We saw Joe be able

884
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: to do that. There's another quarterbacks can do that. He

885
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: is just gonna he's going to be stationary and throw

886
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: the ball. He's not gonna be able to run. So

887
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: I look at that and go, wow, it's not going

888
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: to take much. Then if he's locked in the pocket

889
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: and can't even roll out and extend the play, these

890
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: guys are going to tee off on them. And I

891
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's impossible that we have a

892
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: sample size a decent one now and how this offensive

893
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: line is blocked, and it's certainly there are plays where

894
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: he's going to have a little bit more time than others,

895
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: and maybe not as being gun shy and broken as

896
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: Jake Browning. But that that concerns me is the fact that,

897
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: all right, well, you the run game is pretty much

898
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: non existent with Chase brown We're a run game in

899
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. We don't have to worry about the run

900
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: with this team. And now we're gonna now we're going

901
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: to target the quarterback and try and take away everything downfield.

902
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: From that seems like a fairly easy task base what

903
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I've seen for the first number of games with this team.

904
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you turn the ball

905
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: over to the defense and say what you will about

906
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know, kind of mid defense. Brown's had

907
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the National Football League.

908
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: So they're going to get the ball back to the quarterback,

909
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: their quarterback more than the Bengals are doing. What am

910
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: I missing here?

911
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: I totally agree there. You're not missing anything when it

912
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: comes to that, and I think it's twofold one. The

913
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: Bengals they're set up to win games because of their weapons,

914
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: and so they felt like obviously Jake wasn't getting in

915
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: outside of their weapon to have a chance. So there's

916
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: one two. You're right, their defense is not going to

917
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 4: win them games. It's not for that there. That wasn't

918
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: the expectation coming into the year. Remember how many how

919
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: many times did you hear a Hawks the defense is

920
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: just average, right? I mean that was such a thought.

921
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: And then Joe Burrogh goes down the offense stinct and

922
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: everything feels differently, So, uh, look, this offense is going

923
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 4: to have to score points. I also think when you

924
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: talk about the time to throw. This is where Zach

925
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: Taylor comes in. Pressures on Zach now because they went

926
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: and they got a quarterback in mid year. And I

927
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: get it. He's not the he's not the Jill everybody wants,

928
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: but he's still capable. And so now, can can he

929
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: give Joe Flacco enough answers offensively, quick game offensively to

930
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: set up the play action stuff and the deep pats

931
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: in the explosive offense and he do what we've seen

932
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 4: from some of these other offensive line as head coaches

933
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 4: for their backup quarterbacks. That's that's what I look at,

934
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 4: and that's where I say, all right, well, let's see

935
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: what Dak can do with a guy that that clearly

936
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: still has a live enough arm to get the ball

937
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: to their weapons. So I think that there's some some

938
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: pressure on Zach Taylor here as well, following this move

939
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: in this trade for Joe.

940
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: Blackouh forwards Micah Parsons, Rashan Gary go.

941
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and a Marius Menz Orlando Brown Jr.

942
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: You know it's uh oh boy.

943
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: Right, And and Joe Blacker had to see this first

944
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: time a few weeks ago, and it was tough on

945
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 4: the I mean they should have lost that game, and

946
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: the Browns bought tooth and nail and found a way

947
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: to win. And Joe Flaco made a few nice throws

948
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: in that game, twenty one thirty six passes, about forty

949
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: two had an interception, no touchdowns. But yeah, it's it's

950
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: a tough ask. There's a tough ask to say, Hey, Joe,

951
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: we we traded for you, and five days later, we

952
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: want you to go up against Micah Parsons on the

953
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: road at Lambo.

954
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: And boy, here's the here's the thing, right, because you're

955
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of comparisons in the broadcast, and

956
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dan and Lapple do the same thing. It's like, hey,

957
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland goes to greenit beats him, and it

958
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: was Joe Flacco orchestra and this whole thing. And if

959
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: they come out and look as bad or as close

960
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: to as bad as they did against the Lions and

961
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: in previous games, it's going to turn towards Zach Titter

962
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, is it not?

963
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: It certainly could now Really one clarification that game was

964
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, it was not at Lambla.

965
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, your.

966
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: Point's still the same, though you need to have a

967
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: good showing. You've been outscored one thirteen to thirty seven

968
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: over the past three games if you take out garbage

969
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: time touchdowns one thirteen to nine when the game was

970
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: on the line, essentially, So it's, uh, it's it's just

971
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: really tough.

972
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Plus you're gonna play with a very small playbook too.

973
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not like they're going to come in and you know,

974
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: they got to blow everything up and go with a

975
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: real fairly basic playbook, I guess for Joe Flacco, right,

976
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: or maybe more than more so than a rookie quarterback.

977
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's there's only so much you

978
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: can learn in what two days, three days?

979
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: There is there is. But what I would say, sometimes

980
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 4: simple is what makes sense. Brown. Well, I just watched

981
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: Jake Brown and throw the ball and miss Chinsley when

982
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: he had a wide oven Jamar Chase run across his

983
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: face against the Broncos with the games still hanging in

984
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: the balance, and like those those easy plays, like if

985
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: Joe Flacker can make those easy leads and those easy plays,

986
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 4: well that should lead to points on offense, we'll lead

987
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: to wins. I don't know, but there were a lot

988
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: of simple and basic plays that Jake brown just was

989
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 4: not seeing and left on the field.

990
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and not to say, you know, all negative

991
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: is that he's going to die. And and there's a

992
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: good chance we may see Jake Browning again. James correct,

993
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: there's a good chance.

994
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you cannot lose lose Jake Browning. You got

995
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: to keep him, to keep him, You've got to keep

996
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: him dialed in, you got to keep him.

997
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: I agree with imagine we lose our second Joe to

998
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: turf toe? Could you imagine that's two Joe's two toes?

999
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Be unbelievable, the most Bengel thing of all time. But

1000
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, and and to not say it's the glass

1001
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: is completely empty at this point that the Bendal said

1002
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: to do is that the AFC North is a team

1003
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: of I mean, you can get there. At this point,

1004
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: it feels like it's only gonna be eight nine wins.

1005
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Look at the parody, especially AFC right now, it's anyone's

1006
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: anyone's title to grab.

1007
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1008
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 4: I think that's the other element here is we've seen

1009
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: how quickly it can change for the Ravens, for the Bengals.

1010
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: What if it changes for the Steelers. They have a

1011
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: forty one year old quarterback to get mood that doesn't

1012
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 4: get hit. Yep, you know, And so it can change

1013
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: in a hurry. You have the Steelers on the schedule

1014
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 4: coming to town next week, and so yeah, you're in

1015
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: the second place right now in the North, as weird

1016
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: as it sounds. So let's see if you can piece

1017
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: together a couple of wins here and hang around and

1018
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: see where you're at it in a few weeks.

1019
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Hey, at least they're doing something. I mean, it may

1020
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: not be that good, the best, as I said, it's

1021
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: the best option, the best chance of all the worst

1022
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: options available. It's closing time, and you got to go

1023
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: with somebody. It's Joe Flacco. We'll go to Joe too.

1024
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1025
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: And now he's played for every team in the division

1026
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: except for Pittsburgh possibly, who knows what stranger things may happen. Anyway,

1027
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: he's James Rapine of this odd But at the end

1028
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: of the day, it's like, why the Bengals did something

1029
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: is to show you just what our expectation levels. It

1030
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, they went and got a name, you

1031
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: know what, All right, good for them?

1032
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I hope he's hope he's fun to watch,

1033
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, a couple of weeks ago when I

1034
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 4: mentioned quarterback, I kind of got laughed at the fact

1035
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: that we're here now. It says a lot about Jake Browning,

1036
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: says a lot about where the Bengals feel they are right.

1037
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: And and not knowing Jake Browning was going to be

1038
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: that bad. I think that is also, you know, again,

1039
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: part of the narrative when you look at Zach because

1040
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: if this thing goes south on Sunday, then it's like, okay, well,

1041
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: and then you got a quarterback that's won a Super

1042
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Bowl and you still can't do anything. And now that

1043
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: that square gets the circle, it's tighter and tighter around

1044
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: around Zack Town and the coaching staff.

1045
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: All right.

1046
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: He's James for Peen, a busy man over at Sports

1047
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: Illustrated Bengals Talk dot com lockdow on Bengals jumps on

1048
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: our show every Monday morning, Uh to chop up the

1049
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: game and uh, of course when quarterbacks break in, he

1050
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: breaks out, James, Thanks, appreciate it. Thanks, I appreciate you

1051
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: all the best, and we'll get to a news update here. Uh,

1052
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: it does make you want to watch and go Okay,

1053
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: I'll want to watch that. Hell yeah, gonna I'm gonna

1054
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: see that. You'd watch Jake Browning or listen to Jake

1055
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: brown and go, Okay, well I got other stuff did

1056
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut the grass. I'm gonna go h yeah, Okay,

1057
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'll get some yardwork done now because

1058
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: this game's over and it's like, you know, midway through

1059
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: the first quarter now with Joe Flacco, bad different story,

1060
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: they did something. It's something Sloaney seven hundred ww helping

1061
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: you put the big P in profession. Here's our career,

1062
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Sir Julie Balki.

1063
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1064
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Speaker 1: Every Wednesday morning, Julie jumps in with current advice and

1065
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: news and what's happen in the headlines and what may

1066
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: be happening to you behind the scenes and the like,

1067
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: and she joins the show again on this beautiful Wednesday morning.

1068
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Did discuss Julie, We've on the past talked about, hey,

1069
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: being prepared and laying make sure your networked and getting

1070
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn and what to do and have your resume

1071
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: ready and where to go and all those things and

1072
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: getting ready for the event you decide you've had enough

1073
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: and it's like you want to pivot and do something else,

1074
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: or go somewhere else and take your talents elsewhere across

1075
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: the street, or start your own thing. We talk about

1076
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: that fairly regularly. Very rarely we talk about losing your

1077
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: employment and being completely blindsided by because that does happen.

1078
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: It just happened. We see companies, large, medium and small

1079
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, things are going great, I'm doing

1080
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: everything I can, I'm doing the best I can, and

1081
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's like, hey, you know what,

1082
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: It's just a line on a piece of paper and

1083
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: it's about keeping the light. Time just happened to my

1084
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: sister in law, as a matter of fact, working in

1085
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: the food service sector. She was a regional running a

1086
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: number of I don't want to say the company, but

1087
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 1: they involved desserts and cookie fashion and everything was great

1088
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: until they said, hey, listen, you know what, we're upside

1089
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: down on the numbers. You got to go and did

1090
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: not see this coming out. All happens all the time,

1091
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: yet we don't talk about it all that much, and

1092
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: so in hindsight's always twenty twenty, and once it happens

1093
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: to you, it feels like it's too late to do anything.

1094
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: About that situation. You can improve it for the future,

1095
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: but what about right now?

1096
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've talked, like you said, we've talked

1097
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 6: about this often, and you've heard me say often be

1098
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 6: ready to say, be ready to go, And I think

1099
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 6: it's again, it's just it's me pleading with people to

1100
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 6: think that way. But we know that most of us don't,

1101
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 6: especially if we know we're performing well, if our results

1102
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: are good, if we know that we are respected, it's

1103
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 6: very easy to fall into the it's not going to

1104
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 6: happen to me, and it doesn't.

1105
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: And it used to be back in the.

1106
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 6: Nineties and all these big layoffs started happening, it was

1107
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 6: really just people who were underperforming. But we've seen the

1108
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 6: last fifteen twenty years, especially in two thousand and eight,

1109
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 6: people who are performing, who have great stories, great stats,

1110
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 6: are indeed impacted. And it's become so common that even

1111
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 6: the process of reference checking is less because it used

1112
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 6: to be if you got let go, you weren't doing

1113
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 6: a good job, your companies want to check up on you.

1114
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: But now it's so many.

1115
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 6: Really good people have been let go. And here is

1116
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 6: when I look at the danger zone, when it comes

1117
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 6: to how you might screw up your job search right

1118
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 6: away at the beginning. It's right now, because if you've

1119
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 6: been told let's say yesterday or last week, don't come

1120
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 6: back tomorrow, and it is truly a shock to your system.

1121
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 6: The first thing we want to do as humans is

1122
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 6: feel better about ourselves.

1123
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 5: Is to believe that we were.

1124
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: Not doing anything wrong.

1125
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 6: So what do we do.

1126
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: We pick up the phone, we start calling people.

1127
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: Can you believe it?

1128
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 6: And it ain't probably pretty the conversation. And so what

1129
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 6: we're doing is we're trying to make ourselves feel better.

1130
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 6: And so the what I tell people is if you've

1131
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 6: can dealt this blow, the most best thing you can

1132
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 6: do is take a step back, take a breath, process

1133
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: through your emotions with family or extremely close friends. You

1134
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 6: don't need and do not get out there and blast

1135
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 6: your organization in any way, shape or form. I see

1136
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 6: that happen on social media, and I cringe because I

1137
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 6: think all you're doing is showing how you handle adversity.

1138
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: And so when it's so, the best thing to do

1139
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 6: when you are blindsided is acknowledge I did not see

1140
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 6: this coming. I need to process this. I need to

1141
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 6: take a breath, I need to pull the covers over

1142
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 6: my head. You don't have to do this for a

1143
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 6: very long time, but you do have to at least

1144
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 6: do it, I would say, for a few days to

1145
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 6: get to to really catch your breath and start thinking about, Okay,

1146
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 6: how can I turn this this these lemons and lemonade.

1147
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that after three days of you know,

1148
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 6: binge watching stupid TV, you're you're over it and you're

1149
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 6: ready to move on.

1150
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 5: It is a process.

1151
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 6: Losing your job is one of the top three life

1152
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 6: stressors that we have, right up there with divorce.

1153
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 4: And loss of a spouse.

1154
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 6: And so I think, you know, it's easy to well,

1155
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 6: it's just work, It's just a job. Why am I

1156
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: self said it's just a job. No, For many of us,

1157
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 6: it's our identity, even if we hated it, even if

1158
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 6: we were miserable. Having somebody else make that decision for

1159
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: us feels really, really bad. And so you've got to

1160
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 6: acknowledge that and allow yourself time to process it before

1161
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 6: you put your head up and start thinking.

1162
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 5: About what's next.

1163
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: And ad is some sage advice there, because normally you

1164
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: want to snap me a call all your co workers

1165
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: can can you believe and engage in gossip and have

1166
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: the pity party for you because it's all about you

1167
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: and that's so enticing, but that goes against better judgment.

1168
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: Of course should win in this case, and that is, hey,

1169
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: listen nothing, I'll talk to you at some point, but

1170
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: I need a couple of days. I need some time

1171
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: just to process this. And then, you know, put your

1172
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: phone on no notifications and silent, don't answer the phone,

1173
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: and just let it go to voicemail, and just kind

1174
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: of process stuff for a couple of days. That's some

1175
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: really really good advice because it's just easy to go

1176
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: and you know, and then you'll be empowered with all

1177
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: the people saying you got screwed, and then feel and

1178
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: go do something stupid.

1179
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 6: Exactly exactly, and you will just know this job locks

1180
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 6: is a huge emotional rollercoaster, so you will I know

1181
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 6: people who have felt the first emotion I felt was relief. Yeah,

1182
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 6: I'm unhappy with that anyway, that after several days or

1183
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 6: a week or two, they were angry. Yeah, and then

1184
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 6: wait a minute, why am I angry?

1185
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 7: I didn't like that job?

1186
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 6: And then maybe you go into sadness and then release again.

1187
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 6: And so it really is the stage of the grief,

1188
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 6: experiencing it sometimes all in a day or two. And

1189
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 6: what I also see a lot of times is with

1190
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 6: your partner, your spouse, the people who are closer to you,

1191
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: they're angrier than you are because they can't do anything

1192
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: about it. They're upset that this was done to their

1193
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 6: loved ones. And so make sure that you are communicating

1194
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 6: openly with the people around you and saying, you know what, yes,

1195
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 6: this was not this is not my choice. There's a

1196
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 6: lot of budgetary things going on, or we've been acquired

1197
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 6: by another company or whatever it is, and so it's

1198
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 6: gonna it's going to happen to someone, and it happened

1199
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 6: to me. I'll be okay and I will be ready

1200
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 6: to accept help soon.

1201
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: But for now, you know, I just need events.

1202
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I need to process.

1203
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 6: And you might vent with someone else, or you might

1204
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 6: vent with the covers pulled over your heads.

1205
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: And it's different for everyone, is which And I've been

1206
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: through it before, not and for a long time, but

1207
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: I've been through it, and it is it's like a

1208
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: it's like stages of grief really. I mean, it's the

1209
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: shock initially and then it's like, well, this is stupid.

1210
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: They'll call me back because they can't live without me,

1211
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: and then you realize, wow, they can. Then you can

1212
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: angry about the situation, and then you become well, maybe

1213
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: it's me and I'm useless and I have no one

1214
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: nothing to offer anyone else, and you go throw these

1215
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: different stages, and then complacency after a couple of weeks,

1216
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: and the people at work stop calling you because while

1217
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: they're going on with their lives, their work lives.

1218
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 7: Uh.

1219
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: And you're not part of the daily gossip chain anymore.

1220
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: And you may have a friend or two still that

1221
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: contacts you, but that'll become few and far between, and

1222
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: and that's what life looks like. And eventually you feel

1223
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: like you're in a desert island and you're kind of like, uh,

1224
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Hanks and castaway and you're laying on

1225
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: a shore waiting for the for the seagulls to peck

1226
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: your eyeballs out. And then things turn around, and often,

1227
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: as I found out, things turn out for the better.

1228
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: That there's opportunities out there you don't foresee, and those

1229
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: doors open when another closes. It's so true. But the

1230
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: immediacy of the shock and the horror of it all,

1231
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm not even including things like healthcare and money, right.

1232
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look at these furloughed federal workers that tomorrow's

1233
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: their last check. And then there's stories coming out of

1234
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: the White House that we may not pay you even

1235
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: when you come back and you still have a job.

1236
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: So these are uncertain times. I just yesterday at eleven

1237
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: thirty five. Every Tuesday, I have our buddy Andy Schaffer

1238
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: on from all Worth Financial. I mentioned the fact that

1239
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Fifth Third is acquired co America Bank out of Dallas

1240
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: for eleventy billion dollars, and I said, okay, they said

1241
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: everyone's job is safe right now. How soon before people

1242
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: get started to get thrown out the window? And that's

1243
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: going to happen because you know, hey, will you do

1244
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: the same job as this person in Dallas, or the

1245
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: person in Dallas does the same job as a person

1246
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati's overlap. People are gonna lose their jobs eventually.

1247
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: That always happens. They tell you it's not going to

1248
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: and you go, no, no, no, no, we need you,

1249
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: We need you to keep things going until we don't

1250
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: need you anymore, and that will happen at some point.

1251
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, in the minute, let's say, let's say in this situation.

1252
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: Would I tell every single Co America employee is be

1253
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 6: ready to say you're ready to go? Yes, you want

1254
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 6: to see is there a place for me? It's justif

1255
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 6: third that might feel really good and might really use

1256
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 6: my skills. But if not, or I find that it's

1257
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 6: not a culture fit or whatever it is, whatever they

1258
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: want me to do, I don't want to do. You

1259
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 6: have to be ready to.

1260
00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 5: Begin a job search.

1261
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 6: And so that blind loyalty of the company is looking

1262
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 6: out for me is not only not a thing, but

1263
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 6: it's never been a thing. As much as we want

1264
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 6: to tell ourselves that it exists, it doesn't. It is

1265
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 6: in the company's interest to have you believe that they.

1266
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Are being loyal to you, and they want to play

1267
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: up the whole Hey, we're your family and your work

1268
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: family and everything else. And then I don't know, but

1269
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I sometimes disagree. Fortunately for us, I've

1270
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: got a really good relationship with everyone in my family.

1271
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, we may have disagreements or a little thing,

1272
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: and flare ups happen from time to time, but the

1273
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: end of the day, we love it. You don't have

1274
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: that your business. It's a business relationship. But conflating that

1275
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: with family.

1276
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 8: I've got a real family, yes, exactly, exactly, And it

1277
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 8: can feel when even if it's a privately held business

1278
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 8: and there are family members in the company, if you

1279
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 8: don't have that last.

1280
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 6: Name or honor in that family treat bingo, you aren't

1281
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 6: want to be treated as such. I don't care if

1282
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Speaker 6: you baby, that's the founder's kids, it's you know, it's

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Speaker 6: just it's just, you know, I beat my head against

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Speaker 6: the wall on this because it's just people who want

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Speaker 6: to believe that they're that they're safe, that they're going

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Speaker 6: to be fine, and it's I guess that's a real

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Speaker 6: human nature, but we.

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Speaker 1: Have evidence it's not that way anymore.

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Speaker 5: To the contrary, you're not that subtle.

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Speaker 1: The only organization I can think that still operates that

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Speaker 1: would be our football team, Julie, where there's family and

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Speaker 1: there's loyalty and it's a family business. Once you're in,

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Speaker 1: you're never going to get fired. She's Julie Balki our

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01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: career shirt, but she pops on every Wednesday. Today we're

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Speaker 1: talking about unexpected job loss. We often talk about getting

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Speaker 1: ready and getting prepared and you know, making sure everything's

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Speaker 1: up to date. In your networking group, and what's the

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Speaker 1: next step, and can your side hustle turned into a

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Speaker 1: full time job. And that's a great dream for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but in reality, sometimes you know what,

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: you wind up loosening your job in these times for

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: no reason whatsoever. And I think that's the thing. We

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Speaker 1: tip so much of our self worth, Julie, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of this is mental. We should talk to the

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Speaker 1: other Jewelie about the Julie hattersh your mental health. Mondays

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01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: about this and that we tie a lot our self

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: worth up in what we do for a living, and

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: when that goes away, we're thrown in a turmoil. If

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01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: you identify for what your your value and your worth

1310
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: and how much you make and who you what you

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Speaker 1: do to make that money, I think you're setting yourself

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Speaker 1: up for problems because at some point, unless you own

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01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: the company, the chances are, at some point they're going

1314
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: to go yesterday, we couldn't live without you. Today, we're

1315
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: going to start trying. When that happens, you're in for

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01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: a while. The literally, the earth, the seas, and the

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: sky have just swallowed you up.

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Speaker 6: So are we saying that Joe Blackhoe should not look

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Speaker 6: into change.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, you know, he's forty years old, he's

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Speaker 1: made a great career in the second half of his career,

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Speaker 1: ought to be in a backup quarterback. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: got a super Bowl ring, he achieved the ultimate dream,

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Speaker 1: he's got a got a Lombardi Trophy with the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: And you know, since I think in the past what

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Speaker 1: seven or eight years, it hasn't been so good for

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. But he's still making NFL money, he's still

1328
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: getting signed, so good for him. Maybe it's good for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he keeps landing on his feet.

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Speaker 1: So for Joe Flacco's case, like I thought, I've played

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01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: myself out of a job and then all of a

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: sudden the Bengals come knocking. So there's some inspiration there.

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Speaker 6: Well, we think about really in major league sports, you

1334
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 6: can be on the mound one day and at the

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Speaker 6: end of it and pulled off the mound and be

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Speaker 6: on a bus or a plane to another team that night.

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Speaker 6: So they understand. They understood that it's not personal because

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Speaker 6: that's how their profession operates. It doesn't mean that trans

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 6: isn't hard, because it is always hard because you build relationships.

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Speaker 6: But we can take a page out of that playbook.

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Speaker 6: You will be around until it is no longer useful

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Speaker 6: for us to have you around.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, that is such a great comparative,

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: Julie Buck. This is why you're awesome about what you do.

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Speaker 3: That is so true.

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Speaker 1: Mean of all the occupations, you know, being a professional athlete,

1347
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: they know, hey, listen, if someone better comes along, someone younger,

1348
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: that that flash is better than I do. My job's over.

1349
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I got to be sharp every time I get out

1350
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: there and perform, perform, perform, And when it happens, almost always,

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Speaker 1: there's no animosity. It's like, okay, what do I need

1352
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: to know? Okay, well, here's your ticket. You're gonna go.

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01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: We treated it to Cincinnati from Cleveland. Okay, Hey, good

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: luck to see you later. Thanks, Joe, take care, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you great. And there's no crying and calling

1356
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 1: your friends and crying and complaining and you know, throwing.

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: It's like they just go and they do the next thing. Now,

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01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: same thing when someone gets released, you know, at crany camp,

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, I thought I made the team,

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: or like yeah, I made the team every year and

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Speaker 1: now I don't make the team, and now I'm out

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Speaker 1: of a job and I'm looking at it. But that's

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Speaker 1: the we accept. Why do we accept that in in

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Speaker 1: regular business and regular work because it's been that way

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Speaker 1: for a long time. It's nothing new. It's been going

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Speaker 1: on the same way for a long time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: professional athletes are coddled, they're treated special people. And we

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Speaker 1: see this, you know, we see how they're treated much

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Speaker 1: different than the rest of us. Why do we have

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Speaker 1: in work? Why do we have the sense that they

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Speaker 1: can't live without it and like the world's over. When

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Speaker 1: I when I realized my positions, when I when they

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Speaker 1: found someone better, they go, hey, listen, we're making cuts.

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Speaker 1: It's the way it is. It's not you, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's a line. It's a line at them thing. Why

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Speaker 1: do we have such a hard time with it?

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Speaker 6: That's a great point, you know, when when most professional athletes,

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Speaker 6: we don't. We don't generally you'll see when someone gets cut,

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Speaker 6: when you see the social media chatter, Oh they'll be fine,

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 6: you know they're when a see same with the CEO,

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Speaker 6: it loses their jobs, right. Oh, there was a big

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Speaker 6: what kind of big buyout to see it they'll be fine.

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Speaker 6: But those of us who don't generally have those kind

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Speaker 6: of safety nets, it is a it is a.

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Speaker 4: Harder blow touch.

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Speaker 6: And we also, especially older generations were very rate and

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Speaker 6: I see Gen X and Boomers were raised in a

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Speaker 6: time where there was some level of expectation that you know,

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Speaker 6: see I was.

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Speaker 4: I think eighteen if you think about right, so I.

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Speaker 6: Was probably in my but thirty or so when third too,

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Speaker 6: when bigger layoups start happening. But up until that point,

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Speaker 6: it never occurred to me really that I'd be let

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Speaker 6: go unless I did something really bad. And so in

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Speaker 6: a lot of it was it was what's inside of us,

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Speaker 6: what we saw our parents go through, and we believe

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Speaker 6: that if we're doing a decent job, that were good

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 6: and if we aren't, if we and i'll tell you

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Speaker 6: what being in HR there's this thing about human denial.

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Speaker 6: So I remember having to let people go where they

1401
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 6: have been warned and told a thousand times you need

1402
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 6: to stop doing A and start doing B. And they

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 6: kept doing it, kept doing A, kept doing A, and

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Speaker 6: then it was time to let them go. They were shocked,

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Speaker 6: they tell you, shocked. I think there's just this this

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01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 6: thing that we have that we believe.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be okay.

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Speaker 6: There's some level of delusion there too, but I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's an interesting it's interesting different.

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Speaker 1: Maybe because like in a professional sports atmosphere, you know

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: your job's on the line. You got to be you

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: can't be a dream you gotta be a realist. I

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: believe in yourself. At the same time as like coach

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Speaker 1: is telling you, it's like you've seen it happen other players,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, for a professional athlete, you know,

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01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: unlike you're working stuff like us. It's a different story

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Speaker 1: because they've got a cushion, right, they're making a lot

1418
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: of money and hopefully they've got some set aside for

1419
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: that because they're making a lot more bank you know,

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Speaker 1: when you start talking about furloughed workers for the government,

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Speaker 1: that's a different story trying to make a paycheck and

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Speaker 1: meet end to end. So she is Julie Boukai, our career,

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Speaker 1: shirp of this morning. Uh, and always good stuff is

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01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: always always timely stuff. And if you're looking and maybe

1425
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: the light went off over your head, going you know what,

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Speaker 1: She's right, I'm assuming I'll have this job forever or

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: they love me right, Well, what happens? How do I pivot's?

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Speaker 1: What's good? She's the one to talk to. She and

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Speaker 1: her team ready to go for you. It's the Balki Group,

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Speaker 1: b a uk E, the Balki Group, dot Com, premier

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Speaker 1: career coach, consultant, et cetera. Here instance that Julie will

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Speaker 1: talk next Wednesday. Have a great day. Good heavy back

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: here you will be will let's do a quick time out.

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: We'll get news in the picture and then we'll chat

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Speaker 1: with the chair that I said, the chairperson for the

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Speaker 1: Committee for Infrastructure the City Cincinnati. It's Climate Environment infratructure.

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Speaker 1: She is councilmember Mika Owens. We'll be in to talk

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: about owed out the Brent Spence Bridge. It's rolling as

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they're doing site work as we

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01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: speak for the Brench Spence Bridge corridor and only by

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01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: the way, they got about sixty percent of the bridge

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Speaker 1: complete as far as the design goes, Well, what's going

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01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: to go to the other forty percent, what to expect

1444
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: once they start digging, and what that looks like for

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: traffic and congestion on the city streets, which only what

1446
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: now almost a year ago, we had the big mac

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Speaker 1: Bridge closure which led to traffic gridlock. Are we expecting

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Speaker 1: more of the same downtown?

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Speaker 2: What to make of it?

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Speaker 1: Mika's next on The Scott's Loan Show seven hundred WWD Cincinnati.

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 5: You don't want to be an American Scott's.

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: Loan Back at the Big One seven hundred WLW. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: O doocs sitting down in front of Cincinnati City Council

1454
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: getting grilled on the three point only six billion I

1455
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Speaker 1: said billion of the beat Brent Spence Bridge and Brent

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Speaker 1: Spence Bridge Quarter project. We're going to kick this thing

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Speaker 1: off early next year. That kind of adjusted the timeline somewhat.

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Speaker 1: Mika Owens is here, Council member Mika Owens who sits

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Speaker 1: on the Climate, Environment and Infrastructure Committee, answering all the

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Speaker 1: tough questions. Mika, welcome back. How's life? How are you?

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Speaker 7: Life is great? Thank you Bat for having me. And

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Speaker 7: it's always exciting to talk about big infrastructure projects that

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Speaker 7: are going to improve our region and so odak coming

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Speaker 7: to by the way, I chair the Climate, Environment and

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Speaker 7: Infrastructure Committee, but it was great to have them yesterday,

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Speaker 7: and I think it was a good conversation. Yes, we

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Speaker 7: did ask some good questions, and so I think people

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Speaker 7: will be proud, you know, a decade from now when

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Speaker 7: we look at this marvel of a bridge.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell, it's a long time coming. I mean when

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Speaker 1: we started complaining about I think how bad the Brent

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Speaker 1: Spence Bridge was before you were born, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's been go going on for

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Speaker 1: a long long time and it's a line overdue. So

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Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the design is complete. So what's

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Speaker 1: up in the air about that other forty percent?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So the process in which they are using to

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Speaker 7: design this bridge is called a design built process, and

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 7: so it allows for iteration along the way. It's really

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Speaker 7: a very thoughtful and methodical way of getting to the

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 7: best products. And so you know, we'll continue to get

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Speaker 7: to the one hundred percent soon, but this fall we're

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Speaker 7: planning to have sixty percent of it complete. I will

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Speaker 7: also say that, yes, thank you to you know, the

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Speaker 7: Biden administration, this current administration with making sure that we

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Speaker 7: are continuing to move this project forward. I mean, this

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Speaker 7: is truly an example of what collaboration amongst government looks like.

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Speaker 7: No matter what the party affiliation is, this certainly couldn't

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Speaker 7: happen without the federal government, both administrations, the current and

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 7: the previous, the state government and so Governor the Wine

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 7: has been a thoughtful partner in this and of course

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 7: as a local decision maker and with ODACS.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to bring you up to speed on this

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: as you listen with the Burnt Spence Bridge project, is

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01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: we mentioned the three point six billion dollar total cost,

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: which includes substantial money from the city to count Eyone

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: else's we're gonna get a companion bridge that's west of

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: the existing Brunt Spence Bridge. So let's take the bridge now,

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: the Brunt Spence Bridge that we know and hate, and

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: they will take that from four lanes down to three,

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: so you'll actually have emergency lane and break down lane

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: because we've seen some while people die as a result

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: of not having that. In this whole project's going to

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: stretch about eight miles from the Western Hills Viaduct to

1506
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: Dixie Highway in northern Kentucky and take a tremendous amount

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: of work to get done. It's gonna take years and

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01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: years and years. And that is the bird's eye view

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: of this project here and reshaping what that quarter looks

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: like from seventy five down the western hills, so through

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: the viaduct, and of course a viaduct is seeing a

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: redo as well too. It's interesting I heard some of

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: the conversation yesterday Mika about how they're going to try

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: to limit the impact on drivers and engage barges and

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: bringing material in, which is a great idea.

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 7: Certainly, certainly, you know, I think the thoughtfulness around are

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 7: not only the design, but also the supply in which

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 7: we will have. You know, this where the still comes from.

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01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 7: So these are all going to be good, good questions

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 7: that will have answers to I think in the beginning

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty six, if not very late in this year,

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 7: but certainly thinking about you know, traffic flow and impact

1523
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 7: to drivers. You know, we're hearing the concerns around environmental

1524
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 7: impact and certainly, you know, if can you be thoughtful

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 7: about those things. But at the end of the day,

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 7: moving people is better than being idle, and certainly, as

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01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 7: this bridge continues to get built and expanded lanes on

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 7: the huge bridge, you know it'll help people loose quicker,

1529
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 7: and it'll also be very thoughtful about how people make

1530
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 7: decisions from the bridge to get to downtown or to

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01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 7: get to seventy one, and so I think it's going

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 7: to be a real feat of engineering for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're going to see a lot of cranes

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01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: along the riverfront, that's for sure. And to get this

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: thing as quickly as possible. It could be cranes and

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: barges all over the place, but getting the barges and

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good idea. I wonder what that does

1539
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: with surface transportation on the Ohio River. But it's not

1540
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: the first project someone's done of this scale. I guess

1541
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: in other areas of the country they know how to

1542
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: do this and navigate this. She's Mika Owen's council member,

1543
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: chair of Climate, Environment and Infrastructure, and yesterday met with

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: ODT regarding the Brent Spence Bridge projects, which is set

1545
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: to kick off early next year. So in the cold

1546
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: winter months they'll get busy. Getting busy one of the

1547
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: things one of the things we heard too, Mika. And

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: because also this is an addition to infrastructure, it's also

1549
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: climate environment. You heard from people who showed up community

1550
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: input that we're concerned about I don't know, opposition from

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: from an environmental groups and transit advocate. They worry about

1552
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: you increased traffic and air pollution, and this is going

1553
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: to disproportionately affect black and brown residents in the West

1554
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: End in Queens Gaden. We can't do this. To me,

1555
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: that's not really a reason to stop the project. It

1556
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: seems to me, if you're stuck on the Brent spinch Bridge,

1557
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: as people often are in the morning and afternoon commute

1558
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: several days a week, if not every day during the week,

1559
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: don't we have a hell of a lot of pollution

1560
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: from the cars and trucks that are sitting there idly.

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 7: That is true, and so which is why moving people

1562
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 7: significantly faster and more efficiently it's going to be so important.

1563
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 7: But you know, we don't want to, you know, just

1564
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 7: throw away the concerns of people who know the climate

1565
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 7: work that we're doing in Cincinnati. And so I think

1566
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, this has been a

1567
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 7: thoughtful partnership between the federal government, state and here we

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 7: are in Cincinnati, and if there were any major concerns

1569
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 7: about environment polution, I believe and thee would, if they

1570
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 7: believe an environmental impact statement was necessary, would definitely be

1571
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 7: working on that. So we'll continue to have thoughtful conversations

1572
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 7: but I do want to talk about the job impact

1573
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:15,919
Speaker 7: of this process.

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01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Please do, because I think that is that was gonna dovetail.

1575
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, is okay, we're concerned about

1576
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: black and brown populations and air pollution which we have.

1577
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: If you're sitting on the bridge now and not doing

1578
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: anything makes it worse, not better. This is at least

1579
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: the pollution during construction will be temporary for a long

1580
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: term fix. But one of the concerns. And as the

1581
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: economy gets worse and worse, and money becomes scarcer and scarcer,

1582
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: and inflation goes up, and you know, jobs are strong.

1583
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: It's not good right now. It's not awful, but it's

1584
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: not good and it's not trending in the right direction

1585
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: when it comes to employment. And like the fact, the

1586
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: matter is, people need jobs. And I've been a long

1587
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: time advocate for the construction community. We have jobs out

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: there that will change your life, will change the trajectory

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: of your family. It addresses generational poverty. And all you

1590
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: have to do is show up. They'll pay for you

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: to learn, they'll say for your tools. They'll get you there,

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01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: they'll get you home. You can make a great life

1593
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: by working in the construction trades, and there's countless jobs

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: available on this particular bridge in your backyard. I don't

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: feel like enough is said about workforce development here.

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 7: I know, I know, this is what This is the

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 7: most exciting aspect of this project. First of all, we

1598
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 7: have to recognize that almost a billion dollars worth of

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 7: freight comes across the Bridgetent Bridge every single day from

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01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 7: Miami to the Canadian border. We also have to recognize

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01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 7: CBG is one of the largest cargo airports in North America.

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 7: It's the seventh largest, and it's the twentieth largest in

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 7: the world. And that connectivity just based on the moving

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 7: of goods is so critical.

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 5: So this bridge, this.

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 7: Project is going to require six million work hours, seven

1607
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 7: hundred of folks that will need to be the boots

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 7: on the ground using their hands to construct this bridge,

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 7: sixty more than sixty sub contractor packages. And so yes,

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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 7: the workforce development implication is so real. And so the

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01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 7: investments that we made are are local labor unions with

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 7: the urban leagues creating that building our futures program, helping

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01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 7: people move into apprenticeship and really get great jobs after

1614
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 7: graduating from that. We're talking about living wage jobs, you know,

1615
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 7: Soviet six dollars an hour, and so there has to

1616
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,440
Speaker 7: be a great movement of migrating people into this workforce infrastructure.

1617
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 7: Because when we also think about and you made great

1618
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 7: points around you know, economics and people earning money and

1619
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 7: having money in their pocket to pay for the food

1620
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 7: on the people and a roof over their heads. You know,

1621
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 7: moving young people in these forces of professions is going

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 7: to be so key for not only Cincinnati but this region.

1623
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 7: And when we think about the jobs of the future,

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01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 7: some of which might might be more technology driven. When

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 7: we think about AI, it's working with your hands that

1626
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 7: will always be valuable. And so I'm really excited about

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 7: the opportunities that we can create for people and young

1628
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 7: people with justice projects alone.

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01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: And there are countless jobs available. That's part of the problem.

1630
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: It's not like it's going away and demand. Everyone talks

1631
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: about there's no good jobs and why do we have crime? Well,

1632
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: I can't when I'm going to work in fast food

1633
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: and not make any money and I can go on

1634
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: the street and hustle, and I know it's not good,

1635
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: but it's something we have. These we need to push

1636
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: more people into these things. And it's got to be.

1637
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: We got to be more vocal about demanding that Hey, listen,

1638
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: we've got a job. We've got a career for over here.

1639
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: It's hard work. It's not like it was, you know,

1640
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: one hundred years ago, where you're sitting on top of

1641
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: a I don't know, a beam that's being swung by

1642
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: a crane, eating your lunch like they did during the depression.

1643
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: It's much safer now we have, right, we have oceans. Yeah,

1644
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: you're talking making like forty bucks an hour. I mean

1645
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: you're going to be making six figures easy with overtime.

1646
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: That's life changing.

1647
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 4: That that.

1648
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about generation poverty all the time,

1649
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: meek in Cincinnati, in the community, in black and brown community.

1650
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: This addresses that.

1651
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 7: This certainly does. And I will think that, you know,

1652
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 7: this is one of the things I get most excited

1653
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 7: about what you think about. Excuse me being back into

1654
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 7: city Hall and so developing those pipelines and working with

1655
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 7: partners like cps, like nonprofit philanthropy, our business community, and

1656
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 7: so many others to make sure our young people have

1657
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 7: you know, really opportunity and hope. At the end of

1658
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 7: the day, I will tell you this too. You know,

1659
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 7: green jobs are also a part of that which the

1660
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 7: Chamber of Commerce along with the City of Cincinnati commissioned

1661
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 7: a green workforce analysis, and in that analysis, there's the

1662
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: opportunity to create up to forty four thousand jobs, many

1663
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 7: of which are union jobs. When we think about electricians

1664
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 7: and you know, solling eighth tracks and solar panels and

1665
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 7: all of those pieces, but that hasn't a potential of

1666
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 7: an eleven billion dollar economic impact to the region. So

1667
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 7: you think about that coupled with the jobs at this infrastructure,

1668
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 7: this generational infrastructure project's going to bring. Workforce has to

1669
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 7: be at the top of the list for all of

1670
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 7: us over the next really five ten years.

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: She's Mika Owens and she is a chair as a

1672
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: city council person of the committee that's heading up infrastructure

1673
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Met with O Dot yesterday and what's happening

1674
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: is we're moving forward in the Brent Spence Bridge set

1675
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 1: to begin construction early part of next year. Although I

1676
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: will say probably a lot of these site works being

1677
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: done right.

1678
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 7: Now, correct, Yeah, that's correct, So all of the small

1679
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 7: pieces that have to significant, but the pipes running the ground,

1680
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 7: all of those pieces that have to be set right

1681
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 7: now in order to actually get to the building of

1682
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 7: what we all know as a bridge. So the work

1683
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 7: is happening. We're really grateful that after decades of trying

1684
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 7: to get this first accomplished, that we're at this moment

1685
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 7: and it took a lot of works from a lot

1686
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 7: of people. Are of there's this community again government, and

1687
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 7: we're just happy that on both sides of the river,

1688
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 7: you know, people working cooarly to ensure that this is

1689
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 7: a really great project. And I also want to recognize that,

1690
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 7: you know, there are some future implications in terms of

1691
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 7: greater connectivity back to the West End, back to what

1692
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 7: we've known as Queenstate, but originally the West End when

1693
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 7: we think about the Fifth Street expansion and so those

1694
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 7: are things that are being built out right now and

1695
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 7: being a part of the design and conversation right now,

1696
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 7: so that when we get to a moment of being

1697
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 7: able to extend, you know, those things can happen. So

1698
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 7: we're thinking about the future even right now.

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: Is this a deal where it sounds like most people

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: go while you just canned it over to Oda. Oda

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01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: takes care all the stuff work with Kentucky Transportation Cabinet.

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01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: But Oda's going to how much oversight does the City

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Where's the accountability I guess, and how close

1704
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: tabs Nika Owens do you keep on what the project

1705
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: is overall from the Cincinnati perspective.

1706
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, obviously this is uh, this is right at

1707
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 7: our heart of our city, and so certainly we want

1708
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 7: to make sure that we are continuing to be accountable

1709
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 7: results here. Our Department of Transportation Engineering has been uh

1710
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 7: with you know, working with ODAC every step of the way,

1711
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 7: and certainly this is not the first time that you know,

1712
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,480
Speaker 7: the city and state come together to work on projects,

1713
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 7: and so those relationships are there. I also want to

1714
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 7: recognize you know, Doublin or the line, you know, being

1715
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 7: a very a great partner, recognizing that at the local

1716
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 7: level there are some decisions that impact us directly, and

1717
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 7: so being right at the table to make sure that

1718
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 7: we are again getting all of the great benefits that

1719
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 7: this bridge will will bring to our city. So for example,

1720
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 7: you know, we've got to into their district that's coming online,

1721
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 7: and so when people get off and accit and go

1722
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 7: through a downtown Cincinnati, I mean, it is truly going

1723
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 7: to be a spectacle. And so that's what we want

1724
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 7: we want people to be able to not just go

1725
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 7: over the overpass for those that are maybe carrying of

1726
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 7: course certainly, but we want folks to be able to

1727
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 7: stop downtown enjoy, We want folks to be able to

1728
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 7: get to seventy one, want folks to be able to

1729
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 7: get to the West End.

1730
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: That is a huge.

1731
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 7: Opportunity in terms of what we might reimagine together there.

1732
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 7: So ultimately, yes, we want to be at the table

1733
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 7: and we want to make the decisions necessary and we're

1734
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 7: possible to make sure one this bridge is completed in

1735
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 7: a timely manner and then also you know, making sure

1736
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 7: that we're meeting the budget of this as well go

1737
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 7: out of our control.

1738
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll be good partners, Mika.

1739
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: But one of the other things the fact that year ago,

1740
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: almost a year ago, we had the bridge fire, the

1741
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Big Mac Bridge, remember, a head shut down for a

1742
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: period of time because of the fire underneath it. And

1743
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: the end result is it was on going to mitigated

1744
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: traffic disaster on the street surface streets of Cincinnati because

1745
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: there's no preparation for something like that, but there was

1746
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: no reaction, There was no emergency plan in place to

1747
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: deal with something with one of the major bridges is

1748
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: shut down, and traffic in some areas went from a

1749
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minute commute to over two hours. Tempers

1750
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: were flying. Fortunately, no bad things really really happen other

1751
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: than traffic delays. But I look at that and go, Okay, well,

1752
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: what's the plan now for surface streets being overwhelmed with

1753
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: traffic for the multi year build, for the decade long

1754
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 1: build that's the brent S Benz Bridge.

1755
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a great question, and certainly that'll be

1756
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 7: something that we can continue to follow up on. I

1757
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 7: do know that there are you know, professional engineers who

1758
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 7: this is not the first time building a bridge and

1759
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 7: assessing traffic and you know, traffic patterns and analyzing those things,

1760
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 7: and so that's also a part of what's going into

1761
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 7: the design process. So by the end of this year,

1762
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 7: beginning of next year, we'll have more ODAT, will have

1763
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 7: more information around these kind of traffic patterns and the

1764
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 7: way that the Playweight Belly Bailey Bridge might be impacted.

1765
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 7: But ultimately, at the end of the day, you know,

1766
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 7: this is about moving people very smoothly, not idle, not

1767
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 7: idling sitting on sitting on a Bridge waiting to go

1768
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 7: places they certainly we want to make sure we're moving

1769
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 7: people at the end of the day, and so yeah,

1770
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 7: I look forward to the updates that we'll continue to

1771
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 7: have with Odot in my committee.

1772
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate. I got to get going. She

1773
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: is Mika Owens, joining the show this morning. Council member

1774
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Owens chairs the Climate, Environment and Infrastructure Committee and the

1775
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Brent Spence Bridge Quarter project as a go. They're doing

1776
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of sight work right now, but the

1777
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: big stuff you'll notice will start happening early part QQ

1778
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: Q one, early Q one, like January February of next year. Mik,

1779
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: all the best, thanks for coming on the show. Appreciate you.

1780
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 7: Thanks Scott, appreciate it. Take care.

1781
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. I've got to get a news

1782
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: update in because we've got some pressing developing issues going

1783
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: on right now. We'll find out the very latest there.

1784
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: And of course one of the big developing issues we

1785
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: didn't foresee coming was the fact that we go from

1786
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: Joe A to Joe B, from Joe Burrow to Joe

1787
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: Flacco with a guy named Jake Browning Sandwich somewhere in between.

1788
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: If you're any good we still be talking about him. Nonetheless,

1789
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: what can we expect this weekend with the Green Bay

1790
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: Packers and Joe Flacco getting I guess he's in town.

1791
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna start practicing today today being Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

1792
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Say you don't have many times to practice, Sarah, at

1793
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: least a snort report next seven hundred way George is

1794
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: there because the pig is playing. The people demand the

1795
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: snort report on seven hundred W W share at least

1796
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: from two seven e D in the morning show. Of course,

1797
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 1: in in arena talent, and of course there's no bigger

1798
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: sports fan in Cincinnati than once Sarah Elease and it's snorts.

1799
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 5: Of all sorts of sh yeah, you know, it's it's

1800
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 5: a little challenging right now. I was at the Bengals

1801
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 5: Lions game with my dad over the weekend when I'm

1802
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 5: surrounded by blue and I'm like, you know what all

1803
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 5: you can do from this point is this kind of

1804
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 5: laugh to keep from crying. And of course the Bengals say,

1805
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 5: hold my beer because we are calling the Browns for help.

1806
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: That's unreal. A franchise that has destroyed quarterbacks since the

1807
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, we go to them for our next quarterback

1808
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: in forty year old Joe Flacco. She is such a

1809
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: devoted Bengals fan that Nottle does she drink in the

1810
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: kool aid? Sarah Elise has a day off today because

1811
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: she's going to cook sporting goods to get a Joe

1812
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Flacco Bengals jersey to be the one in person in

1813
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: the stadium one to Joe Flacco Bengals jersey.

1814
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 5: That's right morning. The Bengals had tweeted out hot off

1815
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 5: the press and they were announcing that Joe Flacco will

1816
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 5: wear number sixteen, sixteen, your Cincinnati Bengals sixteen. Yeah, and

1817
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 5: as someone who's close to forty. Look, I'm not forty yet,

1818
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 5: but I just know that when you are twenty eight,

1819
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 5: you know, like one Joe Burrow versus almost forty, Well,

1820
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 5: you know, Joe being actually forty. You got to be

1821
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 5: careful with this guy, Like the old line has come

1822
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 5: to be on high alert. Now. You can't let this

1823
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 5: forty year old man bounce around the field like that.

1824
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 5: I mean, that's elder abuse, loony.

1825
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: That could be a lawsuit pending. Do you think that

1826
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the offensive line stair is going

1827
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: to go Okay, you know what, Now we're inspired to

1828
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: protect the forty year old statue that is Joe Flacco.

1829
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: I love that it and go. The worst run game

1830
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: in the National Football League belong to the Bengals. I

1831
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: can't open holes for Chase Brown can't get more than

1832
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: inches when you need yards. And now you're tasking with

1833
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: not only creating a run game that's been not existed,

1834
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: but now creating, uh, creating run holes for the run game,

1835
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: but also protecting the leakage that's con prevent Joe Flacco

1836
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: but from becoming Joe Burrow. My fear is this fort

1837
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: of your Flacco gets in there and against By the way,

1838
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know you about this, but the pass rush

1839
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers with Micah Parsons is pretty

1840
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: damn good, best in the NFL. If they do, if

1841
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: he does what he's done in the past, I'm wondering

1842
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: how soon we're going to see Jake Browning return.

1843
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 5: Oh, let's not. We're not going to go back us

1844
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 5: like that.

1845
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I feel like possibility it.

1846
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 5: Has it has to get only better from here. Unfortunately,

1847
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 5: Jake just couldn't get it done. And again you de

1848
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 5: for time. Turning to the Browns for a situation like this.

1849
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 5: So I don't know what we're going to see this weekend,

1850
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 5: but it does give me hope that the last time

1851
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 5: that Joe Flacco played the Packers was actually not that

1852
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 5: long ago, back on September twenty first with the ran

1853
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 5: he won and he managed to squeeze out a win

1854
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,560
Speaker 5: thirteen to ten. So are they still fourteen and a

1855
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 5: half point favorites this weekend? That being the Packers?

1856
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: Yes with Joe, how are we looking?

1857
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?

1858
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: What does Vegas say? Vegas says Bengals lose. That's what

1859
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: Vegas says.

1860
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 2: You know what.

1861
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 5: I saw this stat the other day. Not to fast

1862
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 5: forward too much because I know we're just focused on

1863
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 5: one game at a time, but it said when the

1864
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 5: Bengals host the Steelers next week, the combined QB age

1865
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 5: is going to be eighty one years old. Of course,

1866
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,520
Speaker 5: because they've got Aaron Rodgers. Just the battle of the elderly.

1867
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 5: I mean, what a time to be a fan team. Wow,

1868
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 5: what a roller coaster. But this is where you really

1869
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 5: have to capitalize in the AFC. I mean, the Ravens

1870
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 5: aren't getting it done, the brown stuck as always, and

1871
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 5: really the Steelers aren't impressive, so it's like, all right,

1872
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco to the rescue.

1873
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Eight or Nina Funny. Nine wins may get it done, Sarah.

1874
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 5: Which is wild to say because this used to be

1875
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 5: the division to look out for and now we're just

1876
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 5: we're looking on at this division like, oh, I'm kind

1877
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 5: of concerned here.

1878
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: The concern, though, is you still need a six or

1879
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: seven wins at this point to get to where you

1880
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 1: need to be. If that's the case, I can do that.

1881
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see. I'll give I'll give the

1882
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: team credit, give the franchise credit. They went out and

1883
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: they did something right. They went out and got something,

1884
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: and I felt.

1885
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 5: Like such the Bengals mentality though, the Bengals mentality, it's like,

1886
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 5: well they did is this the right something?

1887
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 7: Well?

1888
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: What other options do you have? I mean, you can stay,

1889
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: you know what, Jake Brown and Canning you know clearly

1890
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: there's pressure on Zach Taylor. Of course, there's no pressure

1891
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: on Duke Tobin or or the or the family. No

1892
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: pressure there. Everything's fine, no, not ever. But to me,

1893
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: it's like I when when this broke yesterday afternoon, and

1894
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: it's how blow up on my phone. It struck me

1895
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 1: as Joe fla forty I know it is forty year

1896
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: old Joe Flacco, who, by the way, in Cleveland and

1897
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: four starts as one and three with the fifth eight

1898
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,759
Speaker 1: percent completion rate, two touchdowns and six interceptions. On paper,

1899
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem much different than Jake Browning. And this

1900
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: to me felt like this is the best chance of

1901
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 1: all the worst options available for what it is. It's

1902
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: It's like, Sarah, this is like a closing time hookup,

1903
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. You're a dude. You're not the

1904
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: best pick of the litter. You know, you have questionable hygiene.

1905
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: You're not a very good person. She seems I don't know.

1906
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Her friend says she's got a great personnel, she's a

1907
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 1: nice person. I don't. I don't know. We're both desperate.

1908
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Let's just hook up. That's what this is. It's a

1909
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:35,839
Speaker 1: it's a it's a closing time hookup.

1910
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 5: If this makes you feel better, Joe Flacco is the

1911
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 5: only Super Bowl winning QB that the Bengals have ever had.

1912
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Did we and when you phrase it that way, did

1913
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 1: we swipe?

1914
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Laughter?

1915
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: Swipe? What?

1916
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1917
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: On quarterback Tinder?

1918
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, because I've never been on Tinder to

1919
01:32:58,479 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 5: know which one.

1920
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: You know which one it is? Either that, I don't

1921
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: know if it's a last swipe right, swipe up down.

1922
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on here.

1923
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 5: I have no idea old for this, just like Jill FLACKO,

1924
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 5: this is the time of the elderly. But of course, yeah,

1925
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 5: he got it done with the Ravens not even ten

1926
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 5: years ago. But can you do it with the Bengals.

1927
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: We'll see, But no way, let me interrupt. I saw

1928
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: this this morning. Okay, do you know since his last

1929
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: full season in twenty seventeen what his record is?

1930
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm curious.

1931
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead, fourteen and twenty six.

1932
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 5: Welcome to the Bengals.

1933
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: You'll fit right in, Sit right in, You'll fit right in.

1934
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 5: You're doing great. But yeah, Zach Taylor had released a

1935
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 5: statement yesterday, very long, so i'll just sort of spark

1936
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 5: noted here he goes, Yeah, joll Flackow has the history

1937
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 5: of winning. He is a leader, a gifted pastor, and

1938
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: we're excited to have him on the team.

1939
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 1: Very well, I want him to say what is he

1940
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: supposed to say?

1941
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 5: He fear every time I read exact quote, I'm like

1942
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 5: I could have probably said this in my head and

1943
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 5: told you that this is what Doc Taylor said. It's

1944
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 5: very predictable at this And if Zach Taylor solve the job,

1945
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 5: if they can't beat now, if they can't, okay, say

1946
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 5: for example, they go on and they beat the Packers

1947
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 5: this weekend, and okay, and then and then they go

1948
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 5: ahead and they beat the Steelers. Does that mean that

1949
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, back Taylor's job should be safe

1950
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 5: and we're back on teams. Dak Taylor again to me,

1951
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 5: I don't just spit out my coffee.

1952
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, let's hear the winning. Winning solves a lot of problems.

1953
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: You know when Zach took them to the Super Bowl?

1954
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 5: Really good?

1955
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1956
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in

1957
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: my lifetime, with all they hate and negativity towards this

1958
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: team for what they have not done and what they

1959
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: continue to not do. Mike Brown himself was celebrated in

1960
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Washington Park by cheering crowds when they returned from losing

1961
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

1962
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 5: Use I was there, and it was a very bitter

1963
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 5: sweet celebration, like this is very Cincinnati of us. What

1964
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 5: are we doing?

1965
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Like we thought we turned the corners like, Okay, they

1966
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: woke up. You know, the Blackburn girls are involved and

1967
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: things are changing. We've got to ring up, honor. We

1968
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl and now all of a sudden,

1969
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: it's it's gone completely back to where it was before,

1970
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: which makes you think with Parody and the NFL, maybe

1971
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl year they just got lucky, Like we

1972
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: were bad enough that we got one of the best

1973
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. I mean generational talent and Joe Burrow.

1974
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: You got Jamar Chase t Higgins was great, but you

1975
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: did that because you sucked for so long. You got

1976
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 1: to pick of the letter that does those things. We

1977
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't invest in an offensive line. I mean the defense

1978
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: right now is mid. So I look at this this

1979
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: whole package. You go, well, Cleveland at least has a

1980
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: really really good defense that's going to turn the ball

1981
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: back over to Joe Flacco or in this case, Dyllan

1982
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Gabriel more often than the Bengals will. That's also a concern.

1983
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 5: Better are they on the Bengals, which is really wild

1984
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 5: to stay. I mean, I haven't seen really anything good

1985
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 5: happening with this team in the past few weeks. It's

1986
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,839
Speaker 5: really sad, and again when I was there on Sunday

1987
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 5: out numbered by Lions Sance, I saw a lot of

1988
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 5: people wearing those paper bags over their heads, a lot

1989
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 5: of fire Dak Taylor signs. But like you said, if

1990
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 5: they start winning and turning things around, it's really amazing

1991
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 5: what happens and how quick the fans were. You get

1992
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 5: a couple of losses and the paper bags come out.

1993
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 5: I think it's going to look like late November.

1994
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect Sunday. I really

1995
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have not but I'll watch,

1996
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: I'll listen right.

1997
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so sad for this. I'm even more excited

1998
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 5: than ever. I'm like Jake Browning, but Joe Flacco, I mean,

1999
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 5: this is someone that this is someone that that you

2000
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 5: want to root for.

2001
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: You always liked you. You always prefer the older men.

2002
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, Joe, Okay, this is someone.

2003
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: What's his fit?

2004
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 7: Like?

2005
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: He's a zaddie.

2006
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 5: I'm duned in well, speaking of I wonder what he

2007
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 5: wore last night and stuff rubies. Yeah, I have an

2008
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 5: inside store. That's a boy. He got into Cincinnati last

2009
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 5: night and his first stop was, of course, at Jeff

2010
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 5: Ruby's for dinner. I don't know who we went out

2011
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 5: to dinner with, if it were for Steak Browning or

2012
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 5: Jamar Stacey Higgins, whoever, But I just know that that's

2013
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 5: where she was at last night. That's the way to

2014
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 5: get welcomed into the city.

2015
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Right, I would think, like, Okay, I'm gonna get in

2016
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: and on the way, somebody's picking me up and they've

2017
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: got an iPad, and I'm gonna study the entire time

2018
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: to like get to Cincinnati. And then I got to

2019
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 1: get in and have team meetings and I got I'm

2020
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: gonna know, I'm gonna get in. I'm gonna you know

2021
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: what I need. I need a baked potato. I need

2022
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: a ribbi and some lobster mac is what I need

2023
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: before anything happened.

2024
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 5: Get the playbook. Yeah, I don't need to.

2025
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to, Like nothing against Ruby's good. Could

2026
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: you just like I don't know, maybe get a sandwich

2027
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: and like have it? Kay, you know, have some food

2028
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: at the training because you're gonna have to study, like

2029
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: starting like cramming for a finals. What this is like, Like, Yeah,

2030
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and have a bottle. I have a

2031
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: bottle of wine and some sushi.

2032
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 5: There's no way that he was doing any sort of

2033
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 5: work last night Ruby's other than working on a damn

2034
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 5: But that's where the priorities are right now. And I'm

2035
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 5: also wondering, like, how did he get to Cincinnati. Do

2036
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 5: you think that they just sent a car for him?

2037
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 5: Did he get some sort of like private plane situation?

2038
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 5: This is a pretty quick drive. Did they send an

2039
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 5: uber for him?

2040
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 4: No?

2041
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: I guess probably Like what is that the Mega bus

2042
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: or the Baron's Billions, the Baron's bus or whatever it

2043
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: is from Cleveland taking that down sitting in the back. Hey,

2044
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: they got free Wi Fi.

2045
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't have to pay for this guy.

2046
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, send the private jet. We we sent u we

2047
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: got Greyhound?

2048
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: All right?

2049
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 5: So does give me faith that that Joe Burrow, remember

2050
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 5: that guy? That gives me faith that he will be back,

2051
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 5: maybe sooner than expected.

2052
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: I think the club is confident that Joe will be

2053
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 1: back in December because of the indication of what they

2054
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: did here, that they made a move, going, hey, if

2055
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 1: we can maybe get a couple of wins out of

2056
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: this guy who knows what happens, If it can be

2057
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: early December as opposed to late December, then you probably

2058
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 1: don't have a chance, but Sarah Lisa is here.

2059
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe Joe Flacca will hit for the cycle and

2060
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 5: sign with the Steelers.

2061
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: He's played for every team in the division except for

2062
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers. And maybe Aaron Rodgers goes down, we get

2063
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: to Burrow back and then at December we see Flacco

2064
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: start for the Steelers. What about that?

2065
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I mean, the possibilities are endless that

2066
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 5: nothing surprises me anymore. Ever, Like when I saw that

2067
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 5: news about Joe Flacca, I laughed and I was like,

2068
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm not even surprised like this, of

2069
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 5: course what happened? Pot off the press. Go check out

2070
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 5: the Bengals Twitter. They've got all the latest with all

2071
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 5: your Joe Flacco ish that you could. But you can

2072
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 5: imagine it's all there on the hilarious it is.

2073
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 1: But you know what, I think you got to watch.

2074
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: You go like, okay, I got to see what happens here.

2075
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I will be sat.

2076
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 7: Got it.

2077
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 5: I'll w haw's it because the Reds are no longer playing.

2078
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 5: Don't even get me started.

2079
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: On is there any other sports? This is the only

2080
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: sports news we have. Sports Lady, I.

2081
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 5: Guess, go Dodgers. If you're going to lose to the Dodgers,

2082
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 5: just go Dodgers all the way. And then FD Cincinnati,

2083
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 5: they're back for their final regular season match. That's going

2084
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 5: down next Saturday, fan Appreciation Night. And then our Cincinnati

2085
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 5: Cyclones are back the exact same night and they've got

2086
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 5: a big fan appreciation you know, first base Off special

2087
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 5: thing going on, so discounted food and beverages and free calendars,

2088
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 5: all kind of. Saturday is where it's got to get

2089
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 5: your hockey and your soccer fixed, because, as you know,

2090
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 5: baseball is done in our city.

2091
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: We're about done with baseball and the puck drop in

2092
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: the NHL. Last night, I was watching a little puk,

2093
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: was watching the Penguins and Rangers for a little bit

2094
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: going on there. It's good to see hockey back fall

2095
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: this year. And I can't wait for Sunday afternoon for

2096
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: twenty five to see what happens with the Bengals and

2097
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: the Packers, namely Micah Parsons. And right now, talk about

2098
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: somebody who's having a stake. He's sitting there rubbing his hands,

2099
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: going all right, let's get so, let's get some let's

2100
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: get something done.

2101
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 4: Here.

2102
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Uh, Sarah le surprises me back Monday morning and the

2103
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Kid Chris show that's shows her off the phone. Now,

2104
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: even on vacation, she has to do the snort report.

2105
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: I love that.

2106
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

2107
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 5: Sitting here my Bengals pajamas in case anyone wanted to know.

2108
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,879
Speaker 1: And no matter what, she's the paper bag waiting this afternoon,

2109
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 1: she'll be down to cook sporting goods to get the

2110
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco what number sixteen?

2111
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 5: Number sixteen babies.

2112
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is what you're saying is Joe

2113
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: Flacco is a touchdown better than number nine.

2114
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 5: Yes, if you're looking at just the numbers, then yes.

2115
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: He's a touchdown better than Burrow. Oh my gosh, talk

2116
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: to you next week. Thanks again, have a good one,

2117
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: Good luck all right? Who try to get dressed today?

2118
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: For crying out loud? Would you put some clothes on?

2119
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,839
Speaker 1: Be productive for crying out loud? To act like you care? Anyway,

2120
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: News on the way just a couple of minutes, and

2121
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 1: then Willie takes over at twelve oh six. Here, I'm

2122
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: the home of the best Bengals coverage, I mean, the

2123
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,919
Speaker 1: best Spangles coverage. Savanader WWT Cincinnati